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Using the verb \"istemek\" as conjunction
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1.       tunci
7149 posts
 05 Dec 2011 Mon 09:06 pm

 

The stem of the verb "İstemek" can work as conjunction when ;

1. we take it´s stem "iste" and

2. add the aorist tense suffix " r " in the end [3.singular person]

3.  repeat it twice

a. It can conjuct actions ;

ister.......... ister  -----> whether ............or

[benimle] ister gel ister gelme , oraya gideceğim.

[whether you come with me or not , I will [still] go there ]

 

ister gitsin ister gitmesin , umurumda bile değil.

whether he/she goes [leaves] or not , I dont even care.

 

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b. It can conjunct subjects

 İster sen git, ister ben. ---> whether you go or me.

 İster o gitsin , ister ben, bir şey farketmez --> whether he goes or me, it doesnt matter.

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c. It can conjunct  the objects  ;

  İster evi, ister arabayı alalım ---> whether we buy the house or the car.

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d. It can conjunct the locative words ;

  İster sinemaya ister tiyatroya gidelim.--->Whether we go to the cinema or the theather.

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e. It can conjunct the adverbial clauses ;

   İster ağlayarak ister gülerek gel. ---> Whether come[ by] crying or [by] smiling.

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2.       tunci
7149 posts
 05 Dec 2011 Mon 09:43 pm

 

Using the verb " gel [gel+gel+elim]" as conjunction.

 

1. Take the stem of the verb "gel"

2. Repeat it twice "gelgel"

3. Add "elim" [command-request]

---------- gelgelelim----------------> its like "however", "but".

 

Bu şehrin çok eski tarihi binaları ve anıtları var. Gelgelelim sokakları çok kirli.

[ This city has very old,historic buildings and statues However [but] it´s streets are very dirty.]

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Baklava çok lezzetli bir tatlıdır. Gelgelelim yapması zordur.

[ Baklava is a very delicious desert. However [but] to make it is difficult. [its difficult to make it] ]

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3.       tunci
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 05 Dec 2011 Mon 10:00 pm

 

Using the word " Ne var " as conjunction by adding the "ki" conjunction.

1. Ne = what

2. Ne var = what´s the matter, what ?

3. Ne var ki = But , However

As you see the transformation as we add words and suffix.

Ne var ki = But, However.

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İki saattir onlara bunu anlatmaya çalıştım. Ne var ki hiçbiri beni dinlemedi. 

I tried to explain them this for 2 hours but [however] none of them listened to me.

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1 yıldır Türkçe öğreniyorum. Ne var ki cümle kurmakta hala zorlanıyorum.

I have been learning Turkish for a year now. But [however] I have still having difficulty in making sentence]

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4.       tunci
7149 posts
 06 Dec 2011 Tue 03:31 pm

 

Repetitions in Adverbs

/+Dan ... +A/ FORM

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First part of adverb takes ablative -dan,den

Second part of adverb takes dative -e,a

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a. the ones with organ names ;

Ağız à mouth ----à Ağız + dan Ağız + a

Ağızdan ağıza -à from mouth to mouth

Ağızdan ağıza dolaşan bir haber var bu sıralar.

Nowadays there is a news that travels from mouth -to- mouth. [by rumor]

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Kulak à Ear ----à Kulak + dan [ “d” changes into “t” ] kulak + a

Kulaktan kulağa - from ear to ear

Kulaktan kulağa yayılan bu dedikodu sonunda bize ulaştı.

This gossip that spread from ear to ear finally reached us.

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b. the ones with time words ;

Yıl à year ---à Yıl + dan yıl + a

Yıldan yıla --à Year after year, Year by year.

Yıldan yıla yaşlanıyoruz.

We are getting old year by year. [each passing year]

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Gün à Day ----à Gün + den gün + e

Günden güne --à Day by day

Günden güne zayıflıyorlar.

Day by day they are losing weight.

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c. the ones with various words ;

İç à inside ---à

iç + den [“d” changes into “t”] iç + e

İçten içe ---à sneakingly, inwardly, secretly

Onu içtene kıskanıyordu.

She was feeling jealousy of her/him sneakingly.[inwardly,secretly]

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ık à Open ---àık + dan [“d” changes into “t”] açık

[ “k” changes into “

ğ” ] + a

 

ıktan açığa -à Openly, publicly

We can give the same example ;

Onu açıktanığa kıskanıyordu.

She was feeling jealousy of her/him openly.

 



Edited (12/6/2011) by tunci

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5.       tunci
7149 posts
 09 Dec 2011 Fri 02:35 pm

 

REPEATING THE VERB

As you do it; As keep doing it

Verb stem + e[a]+ Repeating the Stem + e[a]

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Gitmek = to go

Git [stem] + e + git[ repeating] + e

Gide gide [ “t” changes into “d”]

Gide gide kursa alışacaksın.

[you will get used to it [course] as

you go [as you keep attending to it ]

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Tekrar et -à to repeat

Tekrar et + e + et + e[“t” changes into “d”]

[Verb stem] + e + et[repeating auxiliary]+ e

Tekrar ede ede ögreneceksin

[you will learn as you repeat]

[as you keep repeating,you will

eventually learn]

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İçmek - to drink

İç + e + iç + e

Su içe e karnım şişti.

[ As I kept drunk water, my belly bloated]

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Negative Form ;

We just add “me,ma” to the stem.

Verb stem +ma[me][y] e [a]+ Repeating Stem +

ma [me]+ [y] e [a]

İç + me + y + e + iç + me +y+e

Su içmeye içmeye ağzım kurudu.

As I didn’t drink water[for awhile], my mouth got dry.

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Konuşmak - to talk, to speak

Konuş + ma + y + a + konuş + ma

Konuşmaya konuşmaya Türkçeyi unuttum.

[I forgot Turkish as I didn’t speak it.]

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Edited (12/9/2011) by tunci
Edited (12/9/2011) by tunci [typing error]
Edited (12/9/2011) by tunci

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6.       tunci
7149 posts
 09 Dec 2011 Fri 03:47 pm

 

                                      "- Ip Dur" Construction

 Verb Stem + ip,ıp,up,üp + dur + tense + person -----------> to keep on doing ...

In past tense;

 iç + ip + dur + du + lar ---> They kept [on] drinking

içip durdular  ---> They kept on drinking.

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In present progressive tense;

Gül = to smile 

Gül + üp + dur + uyor ---> She/He keeps laughing.

Gülüp duruyor.

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In future tense ;

Rahatsız et = to disturb

Rahatsız et + ip + dur + acak

Biliyorum. Orada beni rahatsız edip duracak.

I know that He/She will keep disturbing me there.

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Negative  form;

We just add "ma" onto the "dur"

Konuş = to talk

Konuşup durma ---> Dont keep on talking.

Bana şaka yapıp durma ---> Dont keep kidding me.

 

 

 

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7.       tunci
7149 posts
 09 Dec 2011 Fri 08:18 pm

 

 The suffix "[y] DI" sometimes used with present and future question forms to give more politeness.

 

By adding "[y]dı" into the question suffix [mI] , we make the statement more polite

 

-------------------mı,mi,mu,mü  + y + dı,di,du,dü + person

Ateşiniz var mı ? ---> Do you have a fire [lighter] ?

Ateşiniz var mıydı ? ---> Do you have a fire [lighter] please ?

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Çay içer misiniz ? ---> Would you drink tea ?

Çay içer miydiniz ? --> Would you drink tea ? [more polite]

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Postane nerede ? ---> Where is the post office.

Postane neredeydi ? ---> Where is the post office [politer way ]

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Nereye gideceksiniz ? ---> Where are you going to go ?

Nereye gidecektiniz ? ----> Where are you going to go ?[ more polite way]

          gidecek + di + niz

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8.       tunci
7149 posts
 09 Dec 2011 Fri 09:23 pm

 

Past tense "mIş" sometimes is used to express the result of actions that we notice later on.

uyumak = to sleep

Çok uyudum = I slept alot.

Çok uyumuşum = I must have slept alot as I have now noticed it. [ For example in the case of when i got up , I looked at clock and I noticed that I have been sleeping for 10 hours]

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Çok yedim ---> I ate alot.

Çok yemişim ---> I have noticed that I ate alot. [ I must have eaten alot as I feel uncomfortable.]

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Yoruldum ---> I got tired.

Yorulmuşum ---> I now noticed that I got tired  [since I feel weak,exhausted ]

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Köyden uzaklaşmışız --> We must have gone away from the village [without noticing] [as we cant recognize around ]

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9.       tunci
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 09 Dec 2011 Fri 10:09 pm

 

In some other contexts the "mIş " has another function that is "Surprise !"

Aaa Zeynep gelmiş !  ---> Ah look Zeyneb is here too ! . [ Look ! Zeyneb also came ! ]

Aaa kim gelmiş ! -->  Hey who is here !

Aaa bak , baklava da varmış ! --> Ah look we have baklava ! [ Look ! there is baklava !]

Aman Allahım ne kadar güzelmiş ! --> O my God how beautiful it is !

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10.       insallah
1277 posts
 09 Dec 2011 Fri 10:14 pm

hmmm it didnt post first time

 

I said. ... I have only just seen these posts. Thanks they are very useful. Many new points for me



Edited (12/9/2011) by insallah

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