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1.       Abla
3647 posts
 01 Jan 2012 Sun 11:54 pm

I always knew there is something wrong with gerekmek.

This is the way I learned it, modified by an infinitive, in which the possessive suffix represents the subject:

Ne yapmam gerekir?

Java teknolojisi nedir ve neden kullanmam gerekir?

If the subject is a noun, it’s going to take the genitive suffix because the inlayed clause acts as a noun in the main clause. Clear:

Türkiye´nin AB´ye üyeliğinin Kıbrıs´a bağlanmaması gerekir.

If there is a passive infinitive gerekmek works the same way except that the object is risen to the position of the subject:

Her eve girildiğinde selam verilmesi gerekir.

Bunun beyan edilmesi gerekir.

In subjectless clauses the infinitive may be with the possessive suffix or without:

Bazen de susmak gerekir duymak için.

Bilgisayar alırken nelere dikkat etmesi gerekir?

In all the above sentences I understand the subject is the –mek/-me infinitive or the structure including –mek/-me infinitive. If this was the whole story I would say gerekmek is used as a monopersonal verb. Unfortunately its easy to find many occurances of all six persons. I picked them from here and there: are they all correct use of gerekmek?

Türkiye´de çalışmak için ne gerekiyorum?

Bugün bir şey yapmadım gerekiyorum.

Yılda bir kere sağlık kontrolundan geçirmek gerekiyorum.

Facebook’un size gönderdiği e-mail e cevap vermeniz gerekiyoruz.

2.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 02 Jan 2012 Mon 08:30 am

 

Quoting Abla

 

Türkiye´de çalışmam için ne gerekiyor  um?

Bugün bir şey yapmadım gerekiyorum.  ?

Yılda bir kere sağlık kontrolundan geçmem gerekiyor um.

Facebook’un size gönderdiği e-mail e cevap vermeniz gerekiyor uz.

 

You shouldn´t conjugate "gerek" abla. It must be always "third person" 

3.       Abla
3647 posts
 02 Jan 2012 Mon 08:32 am

I didn´t conjugate it. I found the sentences.

4.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 02 Jan 2012 Mon 08:34 am

 

Quoting Abla

I didn´t conjugate it. I found the sentences.

 

Where did you find them?

5.       Abla
3647 posts
 02 Jan 2012 Mon 08:36 am

I googled some verb forms. There are hundreds of hits for *gerekiyorum.

6.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 02 Jan 2012 Mon 08:40 am

 

Quoting Abla

I googled some verb forms. There are hundreds of hits for *gerekiyorum.

 

Don´t trust google always.

7.       Abla
3647 posts
 02 Jan 2012 Mon 08:44 am

I don´t. That´s why I am asking. I use it a lot but I always suspect. But you know, gokuyum, this is excellent news. So, gerekmek should only be used in sg 3rd, isn´t it?

8.       gokuyum
5050 posts
 02 Jan 2012 Mon 08:51 am

 

Quoting Abla

I don´t. That´s why I am asking. I use it a lot but I always suspect. But you know, gokuyum, this is excellent news. So, gerekmek should only be used in sg 3rd, isn´t it?

Yes.

 

9.       Abla
3647 posts
 02 Jan 2012 Mon 08:53 am

Thanks, gokuyum. There is one worry less.

10.       acute
202 posts
 02 Jan 2012 Mon 08:57 am

does this help at all i found a file

n this example we used gerekmek in (i)yor-present tense. gerekmek always is put into the 3rd person singular, as it refers to the “doing” itself, not to the person who acts. You can combine also in the other so far known tenses.

Examples:
PAST: Dün akşam eve gitmem gerekti. = Yesterday evening I had to go home..

FUTURE: Yarın havalimanına gitmem gerekecek. = Tomorrow I’m going to have to go to the airport..

İR-PRESENT: Her gün okula gitmem gerek. = Everyday I have to go to school.

Maybe you ask now “where is the ir-suffix?". It’s not necessary as in this present tense the verb stem of gerekmek is sufficient to express the need.

Actually you could also blank out the other tense suffixes as the words dün and yarın already indicate when the actions take place.

10.1.6 Negation of "gerekmek"

For negating gerekmek you need the additional suffix -m(e), in infinitive form: gerekmemek.

Examples:
Gitmesi gerekmiyor. = He/she/it hasn’t to go.
Dün eve gitmem gerekmedi. = Yesterday I hadn’t to go home.
Yarın havalimanına gitmen gerekmeyecek. = Tomorrow you’re not going to have to go to the airport.

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