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A “proto-Eurasiatic” language?
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1.       trip
297 posts
 08 May 2013 Wed 10:22 am

Merhaba! Here is a very interesting article from the Washington Post about scientists believing they have found a "proto-Eurasiatic" language that links Altaic, Indo-European and other major language groups. This is based on a set of two dozen "ultraconserved words" that they believe have survived 150 centuries across these groups. I knew Turkish seemed somehow familiar!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/linguists-identify-15000-year-old-ultraconserved-words/2013/05/06/a02e3a14-b427-11e2-9a98-4be1688d7d84_story.html

2.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 08 May 2013 Wed 11:06 am

 

Quoting trip

Merhaba! Here is a very interesting article from the Washington Post about scientists believing they have found a "proto-Eurasiatic" language that links Altaic, Indo-European and other major language groups. This is based on a set of two dozen "ultraconserved words" that they believe have survived 150 centuries across these groups. I knew Turkish seemed somehow familiar!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/linguists-identify-15000-year-old-ultraconserved-words/2013/05/06/a02e3a14-b427-11e2-9a98-4be1688d7d84_story.html

Beware !

The article ties this "proto-Eurasiatic" language to the kernels of the so called Indo-European people.

A tie of this nature can do wonders towards proving the existence of this so called Indo-Europeans, hence demonstrate that the beginning of civilization belongs to European ancestors. This is almost the ultimate dream for many Western scientists.

The trouble in proving that such an antique race actually existed is that the supporting  scientists have so far failed to find land of origin for them; a land where they originated from and spread their civilisation; İndia did not work, Iran did not work, Caucassia did not work. Seems to me they have their eyes on Eurassia now.

Guess who currently inhabits Eurassia !

 

 

3.       si++
3785 posts
 08 May 2013 Wed 12:24 pm

Anatolian hypothesis proposes that the dispersal of Proto-Indo-Europeans originated in Neolithic Anatolia. The hypothesis suggests that the speakers of the Proto-Indo-European language (PIE) lived in Anatolia during the Neolithic era, and associates the distribution of historical Indo-European languages with the expansion during the Neolithic revolution during the seventh and sixth millennia BC. The alternative and more academically favored view is the Kurgan hypothesis.



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4.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 08 May 2013 Wed 02:26 pm

 

Quoting si++

Anatolian hypothesis proposes that the dispersal of Proto-Indo-Europeans originated in Neolithic Anatolia. The hypothesis suggests that the speakers of the Proto-Indo-European language (PIE) lived in Anatolia during the Neolithic era, and associates the distribution of historical Indo-European languages with the expansion during the Neolithic revolution during the seventh and sixth millennia BC. The alternative and more academically favored view is the Kurgan hypothesis.

 

The most important point in your map is that "Turks" are shown out of Anatolia...

That is what the whole fight is about....

Our friends, Germans, lead the opposition.

 

Bu konuda bilgili olduğun için belki zaten biliyorsundur. Bizim tarafın sessiz savaşçılarından biri İBRAHİM OKUR. "Kültür Savaşında İleri Savunma Hattı" diye yeni sayılacak bir kitabı var bu konuda. Hem internette hem piyasada bulunabilir.

 

5.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 08 May 2013 Wed 03:22 pm

When discussing the politics, many groups come out and saying that ´they are the victim of state persecution, victim of assimilation by the state ´ etc..  Kurds/ alevis/christians etc. I think the biggest group of victims yet to come out : During the state building process - early years of the republic-, many things were said such as sun language theory* or the source for the civilisation was Turks or Turks are orginated from a sunken continent called MU etc. These theories did not have any scientific backings and become a great example about even the heros can not change the sciense. But some really believed in these type of things (or lies) wholeheartedly. They are the biggest victims..

 

*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Language_Theory

6.       tunci
7149 posts
 08 May 2013 Wed 04:43 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

When discussing the politics, many groups come out and saying that ´they are the victim of state persecution, victim of assimilation by the state ´ etc..  Kurds/ alevis/christians etc. I think the biggest group of victims yet to come out : During the state building process - early years of the republic-, many things were said such as sun language theory* or the source for the civilisation was Turks or Turks are orginated from a sunken continent called MU etc. These theories did not have any scientific backings and become a great example about even the heros can not change the sciense. But some really believed in these type of things (or lies) wholeheartedly. They are the biggest victims..

 

*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Language_Theory

 

You will probably like this book then {#emotions_dlg.super_cool}

 

 

During my speaking engagement In Saltillo, Coahuila, Mexico about the Hindu-Turkic origin of the ancient Mexicans during April 25, 26, 27, 28, in 2007, the Hindus present expressed their extreme displeasure that most nations in the world refuse to recognize the truth that the ancient Hindus and Turks are the parents of this world. Nearly every person reading this article has a Turkic or Hindu last name. Yet, most humans on earth will swear that they’re anything but.Right now, the Mexicans and Hindus are collectively accepting the truth of their millenniums-old kinship, both genetically and culturally. I discovered this fact on my own, more than three decades ago. I hope that through my articles, books and other writings, our Hindu and Turkic parents will get the recognition and respect they so well deserve.

 Hopefully, the truth that we are all blood brothers may inspire us to stop killing one another.

–Gene Matlock

 

 

Note : You might think he is  crazy..but at least there is someone believes  in it .




Edited (5/8/2013) by tunci

7.       Kelowna
375 posts
 08 May 2013 Wed 06:09 pm

I always thought Turkey was  Europe´s " Mexico "

Mexico resorts have waiters who act the same {#emotions_dlg.satisfied_nod}

8.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 08 May 2013 Wed 06:11 pm

Sweeds, Their Nordic God Odin.....and Turks

 

http://www.dunya48.com/cumhuriyet-ve-bugun/on-turkler/1870-prof-sven-lagerbring-isvecliler-turk-kokenlidir-tanrimiz-odin-de-turktur.html

 

Those who can not read Turkish can look up Prof Sven Lagerbring in google and see where he thinks the Nordic God ODIN comes from.



Edited (5/8/2013) by AlphaF

9.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 08 May 2013 Wed 06:54 pm

 

Quoting tunci

 

 

You will probably like this book then {#emotions_dlg.super_cool}

 

 

During my speaking engagement In Saltillo, Coahuila, Mexico about the Hindu-Turkic origin of the ancient Mexicans during April 25, 26, 27, 28, in 2007, the Hindus present expressed their extreme displeasure that most nations in the world refuse to recognize the truth that the ancient Hindus and Turks are the parents of this world. Nearly every person reading this article has a Turkic or Hindu last name. Yet, most humans on earth will swear that they’re anything but.Right now, the Mexicans and Hindus are collectively accepting the truth of their millenniums-old kinship, both genetically and culturally. I discovered this fact on my own, more than three decades ago. I hope that through my articles, books and other writings, our Hindu and Turkic parents will get the recognition and respect they so well deserve.

 Hopefully, the truth that we are all blood brothers may inspire us to stop killing one another.

–Gene Matlock

 

 

Note : You might think he is  crazy..but at least there is someone believes  in it .


 

We discusssed about this  guy in the past. He is not crazy but I think he is making a living out of it. Possibly he is a charlatan  

10.       tunci
7149 posts
 08 May 2013 Wed 07:33 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

We discusssed about this  guy in the past. He is not crazy but I think he is making a living out of it. Possibly he is a charlatan  

 

I don´t know if he is charlatan or not. At the end of the day we all coming from the same parents "Adam and Eve" [according to my belief]. And I am PROUD of being a TURK. Just like Germans proud of being German.. French proud of being French..etc..

 

We all know Turks has long and great history with its language. Turks have influenced many nations and their languages and we were influenced by them. Therefore , we don´t know the all truths yet. Sun Language Theory will stay theory until it is proven. 

 

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