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1.       kashf-ul-eman
180 posts
 13 Jun 2013 Thu 06:07 pm

You are tall. --> Sen uzunsun.

My question is that why we used sun instead of sin, as as this is not i -type suffix to.

reason for this??

Thanks in anitcipation!

2.       Kelowna
375 posts
 13 Jun 2013 Thu 07:52 pm

because of vowel harmony you can read about it with a search on tc

http://www.turkishclass.com/turkish_lesson_59

3.       kashf-ul-eman
180 posts
 13 Jun 2013 Thu 08:12 pm

 

Quoting Kelowna

because of vowel harmony you can read about it with a search on tc

http://www.turkishclass.com/turkish_lesson_59

 

but as this is a hard word there might be "ı" instead of u. what you say??

4.       necla
22 posts
 13 Jun 2013 Thu 08:30 pm

5.       Kelowna
375 posts
 13 Jun 2013 Thu 08:33 pm

If the first syllable of the word has a flat vowel (a,e,ı,i), other vowels of the word should be flat vowels too.

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6.       kashf-ul-eman
180 posts
 13 Jun 2013 Thu 08:33 pm

 

Quoting necla

 

empty???? necla!!!{#emotions_dlg.think}

7.       tunci
7149 posts
 13 Jun 2013 Thu 08:40 pm

 

Quoting kashf-ul-eman

You are tall. --> Sen uzunsun.

My question is that why we used sun instead of sin, as as this is not i -type suffix to.

reason for this??

Thanks in anitcipation!

 

When you check your vowel harmony,  always focus on the very last vowel of  the word. 

 

Here our word is "uzun" , what is the last vowel of it ?  it is "u". So take "u" 

 

The suffix you want to add is second singular person [you] , so  , we have 4 option to choose for, 

 

sın

 

sin

 

sun

 

sün

 

 

and  which one would be harmonic with "u"  ? , Yes,  with given four options , it is "sun".

 

u ----> u  

 

   so,  you can attach it onto the word now.

 

   Uzun +   sun  ===>  Uzunsun  [ You are tall]

 

 

===================================

 

Another example ;

 

We want to say   " You are  Kashf-ul  mean  " 

 

what is the last vowel  in  Kashf -ul   eman      ?  

 

     it is  "a"

 

     going back to our options ;  sın

                                                 sin 

                                                 sun

                                                 sün

 

a ---->  i     NO

 

a ---> ı        YES

 

a  ---> u      NO

 

a -----> ü     NO 

 

Kashf -ul   eman  + sın   ----->  Kashf-ul   emansın.   ---->  You are  Kashf-ul  eman.

 

 

 

 

 

If  the last vowel of the word  is   or  ı    ---->    sın         [ Oradasın,  [Sarısın ] 

 

                                                     or  i   ---->    sin           [ Öğretmensin ,  [ İşçisin  ]

 

                                                     u   or  o   ---->  sun       [ Uzunsun] ,  [ Japonsun ]

 

                                                     ü  or   ö  ---->   sün        [ Gürcüsün ], [ Dansözsün ]    

 

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8.       Kelowna
375 posts
 13 Jun 2013 Thu 08:43 pm

  • a or ı may be followed by a or ı
  • o or u may be followed by u or a
  • e or i may be followed by e or i
  • ö or ü may be followed by ü or e

 

here are three rules of vowel harmony:

  1. Back vowels are followed by back vowels, front vowels are followed by front vowels. Do not cross the back/front boundary.
  2. Unrounded vowels are followed by unrounded vowels.
  3. A rounded vowel may be followed by a mix of rounded closed and unrounded open vowels.


Edited (6/13/2013) by Kelowna

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9.       gokuyum
5049 posts
 13 Jun 2013 Thu 08:44 pm

Look kash-ul-eman. Dont try to learn every principle about Turkish grammar. Even I dont remember the minor vowel harmony principles now. But I still talk properly. Read a lot and you will learn to use which form of suffix without knowing the minor vowel harmony principles.

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10.       Kelowna
375 posts
 13 Jun 2013 Thu 08:45 pm

 

Quoting gokuyum

Look kash-ul-eman. Dont try to learn every principle about Turkish grammar. Even I dont remember the minor vowel harmony principles now. But I still talk properly. Read a lot and you will learn to use which form of suffix without knowing the minor vowel harmony principles.

 

  • a or ı may be followed by a or ı
  • o or u may be followed by u or a
  • e or i may be followed by e or i
  • ö or ü may be followed by ü or e

 

here are three rules of vowel harmony:

  1. Back vowels are followed by back vowels, front vowels are followed by front vowels. Do not cross the back/front boundary.
  2. Unrounded vowels are followed by unrounded vowels.
  3. A rounded vowel may be followed by a mix of rounded closed and unrounded open vowels.

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