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Turkey in EU
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14 Dec 2006 Thu 02:10 am |
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Quoting Joey: Quoting catwoman: looks like this soccer player (technic???) has a very limited vocabulary, but he sure believes in higher powers  .
very well said Maral. |
Probably Fenerbahçe technical director  |
heeheeheeheehee... 
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14 Dec 2006 Thu 02:20 am |
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Im really agree with lapin.Turkey is european country...and Turkish ppl are modern,I hope they will join EU soon...
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14 Dec 2006 Thu 04:56 am |
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Rolling eyes first !
But fair enough admin.
Quoting irishanna: Im really agree with lapin.Turkey is european country..QUOTE]
İ agree with Lapin totally.
And no Türkiye not just European country,its Asian country too,and that what is giving her its beauty,and should be accepted as she is.
She shouldn't be paying for who she is ! |
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14 Dec 2006 Thu 06:43 am |
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Quoting irishanna: Im really agree with lapin.Turkey is european country...and Turkish ppl are modern,I hope they will join EU soon... |
That is why i say Turkey has an identity Crisis... are they European or Asia? They came from all the way deep in Asia to Anatolia, and tried to come into Europe... how are they European? it's the worst of things. an identity crisis...
Turkey is neither Euro nor Asian. it's middle eastern, in it's unique region of the world, the heart and soul of the universe!!!!!! and dare a person disagree?
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14 Dec 2006 Thu 06:58 am |
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"heart and soul of the universe"???? and how did you get there?  You must have a big imagination.
Turkey doesn't have any identity crisis, but it has a dilemma whether to stop lying, admit to their mistakes, let people be free in thinking (which would also imply criticizing the society and government, and we don't want that to happen), give rights to historically disadvantaged women and Kurds, etc.
Europe is just making it easier for Turkey to play the poor victim because of their own stupid games and lies.
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14 Dec 2006 Thu 07:12 am |
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Quoting catwoman: "heart and soul of the universe"???? and how did you get there? You must have a big imagination. |
YES YOU WOULDNT BE THIS FAR IN LIFE IF IT WASNT FOR THE MIDDLE EAST... EVERYTHING ORIGINATED THERE....
Quoting catwoman:
Turkey doesn't have any identity crisis, but it has a dilemma whether to stop lying, admit to their mistakes, let people be free in thinking (which would also imply criticizing the society and government, and we don't want that to happen), give rights to historically disadvantaged women and Kurds, etc.
Europe is just making it easier for Turkey to play the poor victim because of their own stupid games and lies. |
Turkey has an identity crisis! Yes "AM I EUROPEAN OR WHAT? WHAT AM I? WHERE AM I? WHO WANTS ME? WHAT DO I WANT?"- they are depraiving themselves their own rights- from the veil to the kurds... and begging to be in the EU... that's a loss of dignity... and how could the cradle of civilization be one day a nation of confusion...
Pity the nation that is full of beliefs and empty of religion.
Pity the nation that wears a cloth it does not weave, eats a bread it does not harvest, and drinks a wine that flows not from its own wine-press.
Pity the nation that acclaims the bull as hero, and that deems the glittering conqueror bountiful.
Pity the nation whose statesman is a fox, whose philosopher is a juggler, and whose art is the art of patching and mimicking.
Pity the nation whose sages are dumb with years and whose strong men are yet in the cradle.
Khalil Gibran
The garden of the Prophet (1934)
and may peace and bounty be upon all of us!
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14 Dec 2006 Thu 07:14 am |
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From what I understood, you are trying to say is that YOU have identity crisis...  . Anyways, the rest of what you said has no real content to discuss, those are just your emotions, can't argue with that.
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14 Dec 2006 Thu 07:20 am |
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Quoting arabianofelix: That is why i say Turkey has an identity Crisis... are they European or Asia? They came from all the way deep in Asia to Anatolia, and tried to come into Europe... how are they European? it's the worst of things. an identity crisis...
Turkey is neither Euro nor Asian. it's middle eastern, in it's unique region of the world, the heart and soul of the universe!!!!!! and dare a person disagree? |
i'm not taking any sides...
...but you said turkey is neither asian or european...then why is it trying to get into the european union then??
and if it is middle eastern...then once again, why is it trying to get into the european union???
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14 Dec 2006 Thu 07:24 am |
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Quoting femme_fatal: lapinkulta
i didnt understand ur post (mainly due to ur english).
u love such texts, dont u? texts full of emotions.
if a person not from turkey takes serious this sort of opinions of such turks, he/she may think that turkey is a victim of all the nations in this world. eu humiliates turkey, greece is an enemy, armenians are evil, all the central asian countries (so falsely called cousins) do not support turkey (so they automatically become traitors), russia is a monster, usa not helpful enough. these are words i hear everytime i talk a turk. i am tired of conspiracy theories.
a turk is too much proud to join eu, even though he/she is keen on being in eu. this type of thinking is very typical to the eastern mentality: i am a proud turk, proud azer, proud kazak, etc!
i wonder if people are aware of that pride brings u nowhere. it is not a positive value that could help u build a strong society. pride = emptiness! |
I totally disagree with this meaningless wording...
THE MOST UNIQUE THING ABOUT TURKS ARE THEIR PRIDE... WHO ELSE IN THE WORLD HAS SUCH PRIDE? DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT PRIDE MEANS? ANY country would envy the Turks of such a charicteristic... IT'S HONOR and DIGNITY... it seems these days no one knows the meaning of these three words...and this is the 3rd time i mention the word dignity...
If we want a free and peaceful world, if we want to make the deserts bloom and man grow to greater dignity as a human being-we can do it.
--- Eleanor Roosevelt
Our dignity is not in what we do, but what we understand.
--- George Santayana
Human rights rest on human dignity. The dignity of man is an ideal worth fighting for and worth dying for.
--- Robert Maynard
Dignity consists not in possessing honors, but in the consciousness that we deserve them.
--- Aristotle
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14 Dec 2006 Thu 07:25 am |
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Quoting gezbelle:
i'm not taking any sides...
...but you said turkey is neither asian or european...then why is it trying to get into the european union then??
and if it is middle eastern...then once again, why is it trying to get into the european union??? |
seems ur way behind...
guess that's for u to find out on ur own...
it's like saying... "why do we have a UN?"
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14 Dec 2006 Thu 07:27 am |
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Quoting catwoman: I think what you really mean is that YOU have identity crisis... . Anyways, the rest of what you said has no real content to discuss, those are just your emotions, can't argue with that. |
think whatever is easy for u to comprehend, i don't want u to work hard on this... no nobel peace prize is on the line...there are more important things in ur life i bet... and mine's too...
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