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Turkey cannot turn its back on democracy
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02 May 2007 Wed 09:53 am |
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that is not what i say catwoman,that is what i live!
And there is much difference between what said and what been lived,exactly same as what KeithL said about this topic too !
Same as i read they beat veiled women in Turkiye and drag them into jail for nothing except they wear scarf Hijab!
Some Turkish friends here in TC told me that is not true, so what do i believe then ?!
As i said Knowledge are there for those who seek it ,and facts are here for those who live or will live it!
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02 May 2007 Wed 09:56 am |
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Quoting KeithL: . is what the people wanted, . |
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That is the point KeithL ,that is what im talking about.
Islamic law or not was not the issue,we just been off the Topic.
And that is THE TOPIC what people want,and that i accept and its very much ok with me.
Let people choose without having any swards on their necks !
And by that i rest my case 
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02 May 2007 Wed 10:06 am |
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Another question: I read earlier that the Supreme Court said the last vote was invalid because there were only 361 instead of 367 members of Parliament when voting. But now I read that the AK party wants a new round of votes, starting tomorrow. With Gül still as their candidate. Anyone who can explain?
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02 May 2007 Wed 10:34 am |
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Quoting CANLI: Quoting KeithL: . is what the people wanted, . |
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That is the point KeithL ,that is what im talking about.
Islamic law or not was not the issue,we just been off the Topic.
And that is THE TOPIC what people want,and that i accept and its very much ok with me.
Let people choose without having any swards on their necks !
And by that i rest my case |
But, if the military had not threatened Erdogan, there would be no early elections. This was a confrontation between Erdogan and Buyukanit. The people have chosen Buyukanit. Clearly.
Again, I realize that this balance of power between government and military only works correctly in Turkey, but this system does work...
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02 May 2007 Wed 10:35 am |
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Quoting Trudy: Another question: I read earlier that the Supreme Court said the last vote was invalid because there were only 361 instead of 367 members of Parliament when voting. But now I read that the AK party wants a new round of votes, starting tomorrow. With Gül still as their candidate. Anyone who can explain? |
AK party did want the voting to continue. But constitutional court has thrown out first round of votes.
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02 May 2007 Wed 10:47 am |
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Quoting KeithL: AK party did want the voting to continue. But constitutional court has thrown out first round of votes. |
I know, but in Dutch news they said the AK-party wants to start all over again, not continuing (because the court said no). They say it was announced by several Turkish tv stations. The new dates are: May 3rd and if needed also May 7th, 11th and 15th. Is that possible?
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02 May 2007 Wed 11:00 am |
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Erdogan may ask for a new vote in parliment, but it will be impossible to get 2/3 vote needed.
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02 May 2007 Wed 11:12 am |
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Well then there's no problem is there? If people change their minds and don't like their government then they will just have to elect another one next time. It's clearly not healthy for the army to meddle, and if you think it is then YOU join them in overthrowing the government YOU go get yourself killed for absolutely silly reasons.
I'm sorry but I think you guys are paranoid. Turkey's been secular for ages now hows that goign to change? and like caliptrix said look at what the government has accomplished since they came to power, instead of looking at their personal beliefs. It's thanks to them bridges are slowly being built towards joining the EU at some point. Surely taking a more religious course would be a huge contradiction and ruin all of that.
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02 May 2007 Wed 11:21 am |
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Quoting KeithL:
But, if the military had not threatened Erdogan, there would be no early elections. This was a confrontation between Erdogan and Buyukanit. The people have chosen Buyukanit. Clearly.
Again, I realize that this balance of power between government and military only works correctly in Turkey, but this system does work... |
Then they should have waited till the election time comes and not interfear .
Ohh, i dont know really what we argue about, not just you KeithL but all of you.
You are drawing democracy the way you want because it suite you this way in that stiuation !
And there is no such thing saying that works only for Turkiye.
So every country in the whole world can say same,starting from Taliban in afganistan,till Sadam in Iraq,then they were not wrong and their systems suit them too!
Every country can plan her own democracy and no one can object about it !
That is not logic !
And if army march in catwoman everytime they dont like a government ,it would be a millitary system.and turn into jungle!
I dont accept what Bush doing ,but of course i wont accept if the army march in too.
And no need to argue more in what is obvious !
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02 May 2007 Wed 11:45 am |
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The most ironic thing of all Canli is that your country, Egypt, has no democracy at all. Your presidential elections have had only one candidate since the early 80's. And Mubarik is grooming his son to become the next king....I mean president.
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02 May 2007 Wed 11:53 am |
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Quoting erdinc:
Look at this picture. You will see mens desk and womens desk. This is Istanbul and they are paying their water bills to councils pay desk.
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I can't believe that! This is not possible?!
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