General/Off-topic |
|
|
|
|
|
Please explane why????
|
| 70. |
19 Oct 2007 Fri 02:36 am |
|
Quoting AEnigma III: Sadly, legalised abortion doesn't increase the number of abortions. Stories of backstreet abortionists in countries where it is not legal are horrific.
What I REALLY object to is multiple abortions. There is really NO EXCUSE for it. We have wonderful contraception methods and surely the trauma of one abortion would mean you would ensure you were protected in the future.
|
damn right!even if sexual revolution of 60's brought this problem and demand for daily light it is still against the nature in my opinion>Trauma of abortion is terrible,if not right now after it ,it will occur later>Just a thought after talking to some women during psychotherapy who underwent it!The feeling of hopelesness,failure,lack of support from men's side and this tremendous feeling of guilt...may even lead to not enjoying sex any more!!!Gosh..we live in 21st century with all contraception benefits of it,if men think about their comfort..we THE WOMEN should think twice!!!!for men too!!!
|
|
| 71. |
19 Oct 2007 Fri 02:49 am |
|
Quoting kafesteki kus: damn right!even if sexual revolution of 60's brought this problem and demand for daily light it is still against the nature in my opinion>Trauma of abortion is terrible,if not right now after it ,it will occur later>Just a thought after talking to some women during psychotherapy who underwent it!The feeling of hopelesness,failure,lack of support from men's side and this tremendous feeling of guilt...may even lead to not enjoying sex any more!!!Gosh..we live in 21st century with all contraception benefits of it,if men think about their comfort..we THE WOMEN should think twice!!!!for men too!!! |
I think this is grossly exaggerated. You apparently haven't talked to a varied group of women who had an abortion. The popularized notion that women are so traumatized by abortion is a myth (most of the time it's her religious family and society that traumatizes the woman). If you think of what we have in the 21st century, you could say that all of that is against nature! Freedom requires responsibility, that's for sure, but abortion is really about the woman's right to not have the baby and that's perfectly reasonable. Of course I think that the woman should respect her body enough to not have unprotected sex if she doesn't want to have a baby, but if something bad and unexpected happens to her, she doesn't have to have her life ruined or struggle with something she's not ready for.
|
|
| 72. |
19 Oct 2007 Fri 02:57 am |
|
Quoting catwoman: Quoting kafesteki kus: damn right!even if sexual revolution of 60's brought this problem and demand for daily light it is still against the nature in my opinion>Trauma of abortion is terrible,if not right now after it ,it will occur later>Just a thought after talking to some women during psychotherapy who underwent it!The feeling of hopelesness,failure,lack of support from men's side and this tremendous feeling of guilt...may even lead to not enjoying sex any more!!!Gosh..we live in 21st century with all contraception benefits of it,if men think about their comfort..we THE WOMEN should think twice!!!!for men too!!! |
I think this is grossly exaggerated. You apparently haven't talked to a varied group of women who had an abortion. The popularized notion that women are so traumatized by abortion is a myth (most of the time it's her religious family and society that traumatizes the woman). If you think of what we have in the 21st century, you could say that all of that is against nature! Freedom requires responsibility, that's for sure, but abortion is really about the woman's right to not have the baby and that's perfectly reasonable. Of course I think that the woman should respect her body enough to not have unprotected sex if she doesn't want to have a baby, but if something bad and unexpected happens to her, she doesn't have to have her life ruined or struggle with something she's not ready for. |
Catwoman)))with all respect!!!I did!and what I learnt bcs of it is that in many cases the society ..family..etc..made the woman take her decision!even if she did not think about it for years one day it was brought up again in case of for example her daughter deciding to abort or not or not being able to have kids with suitable one!i do not condemn women who did that as you said they do not have to struggle with sth she is not ready for..but i totally agree that a woman is responsible for safe sex!no contraception no sex..it should be..but how many are naive in the name of so called love????Look at the amount of posts!i love you so ..let it be...perhaps we will be lucky))))
|
|
| 73. |
19 Oct 2007 Fri 06:22 pm |
|
Quoting kafesteki kus: if men think about their comfort..we THE WOMEN should think twice!!!!for men too!!! |
unfortunately its true.
men have their pleasure of sex and usually walk away leaving women to all the problems: want sex? YES! bear the consequences of sex? NO!
|
|
| 74. |
19 Oct 2007 Fri 06:31 pm |
|
Quoting catwoman: The popularized notion that women are so traumatized by abortion is a myth (most of the time it's her religious family and society that traumatizes the woman). |
i do agree that some religious pro-life orgs dramatise the cases of after-abortion trauma insisting that every woman goes through such trauma. however, there are women who suffer after such dramatic decisions.
|
|
| 75. |
19 Oct 2007 Fri 06:57 pm |
|
Quoting femme_fatal: i do agree that some religious pro-life orgs dramatise the cases of after-abortion trauma insisting that every woman goes through such trauma. however, there are women who suffer after such dramatic decisions. |
Yes, there are the ones who suffer, but this is more complex then some people like to see it. Often, women who decide to have abortion have been raped, have become pregnant by a boyfriend who walks away from it or who DEMANDS that she has an abortion, or who are condemned by the family or society for having an abortion. These factors play a much bigger role in the woman's psychological trauma then the abortion itself.
|
|
| 76. |
19 Oct 2007 Fri 10:06 pm |
|
I should imagine its a mixture of the two.
|
|
| 77. |
19 Oct 2007 Fri 10:46 pm |
|
Aenigma,
I posted my story for a ppl to tell me what they think. I can understand that you must think i am so evil and that i have no respect for life. Let me tell you something as easy as it is for you to say that why did it happen twice and i shoulc think of birthcontrol. Well no one has actuall asked me if i have used any, so why just asume that i have not used any or how could that have happend twice. If i had the answers to that i would not even be in this position. I am not asking for ppl to except what i have done, but you know what i have to live with it for the rest of my life no one els and that is all my doing. You should maybe think before you judge a person, we all do stupid things in life some not so bad and other we carry around with us the rest of our lifes. All i can say to you is that when you have rown my boat then you can come and judge. I was asking for advice not judgement!!!
|
|
| 78. |
19 Oct 2007 Fri 10:59 pm |
|
Quoting Bathory: I was asking for advice not judgement!!! |
an advice often goes along with a judgement
there was a mistake, and was another, but you seem didnt learn anything. instead of dunmping the bastard that told you abort your unborn children you still running after him.
to my personal opinion, you definetely deserve a judgement if not from aenigma then from me.
what did you expect a gentle stroke on your head and "oh dear, you are a poor thing, we wish he loved you, and two abortions are nothing in comparison to that lovely man"?
disgusting! 
|
|
| 79. |
19 Oct 2007 Fri 11:04 pm |
|
Quoting Bathory: Aenigma,
I posted my story for a ppl to tell me what they think. I can understand that you must think i am so evil and that i have no respect for life. Let me tell you something as easy as it is for you to say that why did it happen twice and i shoulc think of birthcontrol. Well no one has actuall asked me if i have used any, so why just asume that i have not used any or how could that have happend twice. If i had the answers to that i would not even be in this position. I am not asking for ppl to except what i have done, but you know what i have to live with it for the rest of my life no one els and that is all my doing. You should maybe think before you judge a person, we all do stupid things in life some not so bad and other we carry around with us the rest of our lifes. All i can say to you is that when you have rown my boat then you can come and judge. I was asking for advice not judgement!!! |
Sorry Bathory, you are right when you say 'we all do something wrong in our lives' but two (!!) abortions I cannot call 'something'. It's much more than that.
|
|
| 80. |
19 Oct 2007 Fri 11:16 pm |
|
Quoting Bathory:
I posted my story for a ppl to tell me what they think. I can understand that you must think i am so evil and that i have no respect for life. Let me tell you something as easy as it is for you to say that why did it happen twice and i shoulc think of birthcontrol. Well no one has actuall asked me if i have used any, so why just asume that i have not used any or how could that have happend twice. If i had the answers to that i would not even be in this position. I am not asking for ppl to except what i have done, but you know what i have to live with it for the rest of my life no one els and that is all my doing. You should maybe think before you judge a person, we all do stupid things in life some not so bad and other we carry around with us the rest of our lifes. All i can say to you is that when you have rown my boat then you can come and judge. I was asking for advice not judgement!!! |
I totally agree,this is what i have been saying all along and i want you to know not everyone here judges you for what happened. Some people want to be supportive and others are just not helpful at all!
|
|
|
