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26 Nov 2008 Wed 08:23 pm |
What would ´we´ do without Wiki?
Personal question Tamikidakika: Did you ever read (a part of) the Bible?
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26 Nov 2008 Wed 08:23 pm |
What would ´we´ do without Wiki?
Personal question Tamikidakika: Did you ever read (a part of) the Bible?
no, have you read kuran?
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26 Nov 2008 Wed 08:24 pm |
oh tami tami i know all these 
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26 Nov 2008 Wed 08:26 pm |
oh tami tami i know all these 
so what`s your point?
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26 Nov 2008 Wed 08:28 pm |
Parts yes. I must admit I quitted because I don´t find it nice to read. Not solely because of the content (though many times I was shocked) but because (to me) it is just one big list of do´s and don´ts, not a ´story´ (which the Bible is). BTW I am not religious.
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26 Nov 2008 Wed 08:30 pm |
Parts yes. I must admit I quitted because I don´t find it nice to read. Not solely because of the content (though many times I was shocked) but because (to me) it is just one big list of do´s and don´ts, not a ´story´ (which the Bible is). BTW I am not religious.
see I don`t read any religios text for the same reason. it`s a waste of time, and I don`t think one must read them to get their essence. besides, google and wikipedia are pretty good.
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26 Nov 2008 Wed 08:31 pm |
my point is that i know all that stuff. i dont have any other point.
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26 Nov 2008 Wed 08:32 pm |
see I don`t read any religios text for the same reason. it`s a waste of time, and I don`t think one must read them to get their essence. besides, google and wikipedia are pretty good.
then why do you quote the verses out of those books you dont read and dont know? 
how come you quote about things you dont care? or you suddenly care when theres a debate? 
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26 Nov 2008 Wed 08:38 pm |
then why do you quote the verses out of those books you dont read and dont know? 
how come you quote about things you dont care? or you suddenly care when theres a debate? 
all these books are online, you don`t need to read the whole book to understand that it says "kill the girl if she is not virgin". reading them from the beginning to the end is as meaningless as reading encyclopedia unless you believe in them.
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26 Nov 2008 Wed 08:47 pm |
al nisa: 4:34
Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted, Great.
good, I would like to stop with the word "scourge", this word means using a scourge to torture someone, it means also punishing someone physically so hard.
But did the verse really said this word, no no no, the word is "beat them" and this beating isn´t the hard one, it musn´t be done by a scourge or any other tool that can hurt, also this beating must not let traces, so this beating is just to warn and not to torture the woman.
And as you see clearly is the reason of beating is not just a too salty food or not bearing male children .......
Another word to say, the man whom can show his physical power against a creature less powerful, if this creature is a woman, a child or even an animal is just a deficiency in his personality and even his manhood (woman isn´t innocent if she could beat a child also "same principle = powerful one showing hard muscles to weak one).
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26 Nov 2008 Wed 08:56 pm |
good, I would like to stop with the word "scourge", this word means using a scourge to torture someone, it means also punishing someone physically so hard.
But did the verse really said this word, no no no, the word is "beat them" and this beating isn´t the hard one, it musn´t be done by a scourge or any other tool that can hurt, also this beating must not let traces, so this beating is just to warn and not to torture the woman.
And as you see clearly is the reason of beating is not just a too salty food or not bearing male children .......
Another word to say, the man whom can show his physical power against a creature less powerful, if this creature is a woman, a child or even an animal is just a deficiency in his personality and even his manhood (woman isn´t innocent if she could beat a child also "same principle = ppwerful one showing hard muscles to weak one).
It´s not important what explanation you give or what you think of words that are used. Fact is: it IS in the Koran, which you denied previously.
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