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Report reveals horrors of violence against Turkish women
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70.       christine
443 posts
 26 Nov 2008 Wed 07:11 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 

I do not understand women who stay in this environment. I know the excuses they give, but to me…they are just as bad as the excuses the men give! ESPECIALLY when there are children involved!! They SEE what is happening and that forms the way they view their future relationships.  {#lang_emotions_noway}

 

 I use to work with a woman who was in an abusive marrage for many years and she said that he always threatened that is she ever left he would kill her and their son. Within the marrage he had always carring out any threats he made, so she was so scared and also got so down trodden that all her  confidence had gone. Then after a very violent beating because his tea was cold and the reason his tea was cold was he had stayed in the pub instead of going home at the appointed time. She deceided that if she stopped she was going to be killed anyway, so finally left. And of course because of the coward he was. he never came looking for her. She is now in a very happy marrage. 

71.       Queent
183 posts
 26 Nov 2008 Wed 07:13 pm

 

Quoting vineyards

Did you look anywhere to start with?

 

one of the holy books you mentionned is Quran, I never saw a verse in it asking to abuse women.

but I saw verses which order to be merciful with them, "the best of you are for their wives"

72.       femmeous
2642 posts
 26 Nov 2008 Wed 07:19 pm

 

Quoting vineyards

Femmeous seriously, should we collect money among members to spend on your psychological treatment? It would be nice if you realized this point yourself and start seeing a shrink for the treatment of your various complexes. Don´t take my word for it. Arrange the first visit, and ask the psychiatrist himself. You may thank me in the end.

 

i love this post

any cash is welcome

 

73.       femmeous
2642 posts
 26 Nov 2008 Wed 07:20 pm

 

Quoting vineyards

Muslims, Jews, Kurds and Turks have it. It is written in their holy books. It only applies to those who belive in these belief systems. People accept these rules since childhood. Kurds are a more self-centered people isolated from the effects of Europanization. It has nothing to do with races. It is mostly a cultural problem claiming many lives every year.

 

 jews?   i dont think so. i havent heard any story of an honor killing done among jews.

 

74.       femmeous
2642 posts
 26 Nov 2008 Wed 07:21 pm

 

Quoting Queent

one of the holy books you mentionned is Quran, I never saw a verse in it asking to abuse women.

but I saw verses which order to be merciful with them, "the best of you are for their wives"

 

 dont be so sure, i can come with those verses

75.       christine
443 posts
 26 Nov 2008 Wed 07:22 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 i dont think it happens to polish families (at least not many), its mainly ukranian and russian tradition. its them who make such statistics.

 

 It happens in any nationality.

76.       Trudy
7887 posts
 26 Nov 2008 Wed 07:23 pm

 

Quoting Queent

one of the holy books you mentionned is Quran, I never saw a verse in it asking to abuse women.

but I saw verses which order to be merciful with them, "the best of you are for their wives"

 

 Sura 4, verse 34(38) - the verse might differ from translation.

77.       alameda
3499 posts
 26 Nov 2008 Wed 07:33 pm

Domestic abuse is an international problem.

 

Why does it happen? Men beat women because they can. It´s really that simple.

 

Until it is considered dishonerable, it will go on.

 

In the meantime, here´s a place to find help.

 

International Directory of Domestic Violence Agencies

 


78.       femmeous
2642 posts
 26 Nov 2008 Wed 07:38 pm

 

Quoting alameda

 

 

Why does it happen? Men beat women because they can. It´s really that simple.

 


 

 absolutely true. but in many many countries not things are not just done, but actually wife beating is even supported. if you dont beat your wife you are not man enough.

79.       azade
1606 posts
 26 Nov 2008 Wed 07:39 pm

Sura An-Nisa is often misunderstood. If anyone has to turn to a book to find an excuse to beat their wife they are probably going to hell anyway Although I think a man with violent tendencies is going to beat his wife (or others) regardless.

There should definitely be more severe punishments for domestic violence. Usually they don´t get any jail time whatsoever.

80.       teaschip
3870 posts
 26 Nov 2008 Wed 07:41 pm

Domestic abuse is an international problem, however honour killings aren´t.  Do your remmber the Bobbitt story..maybe if more woman were like Lorena these men would think twice.  I also think some men tend to follow in what they see and learn..what I mean is maybe their father was abusive to their mother..

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Lorena_Bobbitt

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