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Thread: Some things to like about Sarah Palin

1081.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 11 Sep 2008 Thu 10:44 pm

I would like to hear a reaction upon some of the reasons for an abortion that have been mentioned from the pro-lifers. The girl who has given birth to her fathers child, over and over again. The crack hooker. The couple who would love to raise a child, but who know that the mother will die giving birth. 

 

I understand reasons to be against abortion.

 

I am also wondering, the decision to be pro-life, has it got any religious grounds too?

 

And as a last, which just came to my mind: what is your idea on euthanasy? (I´m sorry, I don´t exactly know if that is the english word. I mean when a terminal ill patient decides he/she wants to die).

 

(and just for the record: I´m genuinely interested )



Thread: Please verify my interpretation of cooking instruction

1082.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 11 Sep 2008 Thu 04:55 am

 

Quoting mutlu101.

 Instructions in Turkish are:

1) 3.5 su bardagi suyu bir bir tencereye koyup uzerine poseti basaltin.

2) Orta ateste surekli karishirarak pisirin.  Kaynamaya baslayinca acagi kisin ve tencere kapagini kapatmadan 20 dakika daha kaynamaya birakin.  Daha sonra ocaktan alip arada karistirarak 5 dakika sogutun.

3) 5 dakika kadar beklettikten sonra ustunu susleyip ilik olarak hemen veya busdalabinda soguttuktan sonra servis yaprin.

 

 

 1) Put 3.5 waterglasses of water into a pan and empty the package above it

 2) Cook on middle fire while stirring al the time. When it starts to boil, lower the fire and leave to cook for 20 more minutes without closing the lid. Afterwards, take it from the stove, and let it wait for 5 minutes while stirring now and then.

 3) after letting it wait for 5 minutes, decorate it (probably with some tomato-butter-sauce or with red pepper or anything) and serve immediately while lukewarm, or after letting it cool down in the refridgerator.

 



Thread: Some things to like about Sarah Palin

1083.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 11 Sep 2008 Thu 04:50 am

 

Quoting alameda

 

 Let´s extrapolate that a bit more....If a zygote is a baby, I wonder at what point will there be check-points to see if a fertilized egg is in a female of possible child bearing age?

 At what point will women be jailed to "make sure" the right decisions are being made? 

 

At what point will there be murder trials for women who miscarried? When will child abuse charges be made against women who don´t "eat right" or have the "right life style"

 

And, yes where are the programs to take care of the humans? Love the life that has no voice, no thoughts....and no possibility to challenge you....forget about them once they are here.

 

 

 +10000 !



Thread: Turks dislike Obama´s selection of Joe Biden as running mate

1084.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 11 Sep 2008 Thu 04:21 am

 

Quoting doudi94

I really dont get whats the big fuss whith the whole armenian thing! Fine , what if a genocide really happened hundreds of years a go? Fine. Why bring it all up again, cause a group of turks did this, does that man that the turks of today still wanna do the same thing?Why bring up a hundred yar old case? Theyre living side by side ,

 

 Sure. But what about the houses, the properties, the belongings, the savings, the agricultural sites that those Armenian people had to leave behind because they were sent to Syria? If historians will conclude mutually one day that there has been a genocide, the grandchildren, members of that family, have right to get paid for the financial loss in the family. And there are files of Ottoman Empire with this type of information (which piece of land with which kind of farming belonged to whom for instance).  Acceptance by Turkey means a big financial debt to be fullfilled.

 

There are people speculating that Armenia only opened this subject again after Turkey´s economy started to be a rising star.. but I wouldnt know about that.

 

And apart from that, ´why bring up a hundred year old case´. I´m not comparing the Armenian issue with the Hitler holocaust concretely, just a general compensation: there are still some people in Germany who say that the holocaust never happened. How must that feel for people whose parents were murdered brutally by that system? Recognition for the pain a family has been through, is an important part of accepting a loss. Let´s say there was such a thing as Armenian genocide: not only did the Ottoman Empire take their money and their lives, they also deny they did this.

 

No, bringing up genocide or any kind of war, does not mean you think that the people of nowadays would do the same. My grandfather fought at the Normandy front in the second world war. I have absolutely nothing against Germans, and when I think about Germans, Id sooner think of beer and bratwurst than of gasshowers. But when I see nazi´s in documentaries say there was no such thing as holocaust, it makes me angry. Because my grandfather risked his life to put an end to that. Denial of a painful historical fact, can be painful for the people of that country.

Im not saying anything about the ´so called´ genocide itself. I´m just explaining why it is normal for people to still talk about it, especially when it is unsolved and totally denied by one side.



Thread: Some things to like about Sarah Palin

1085.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 11 Sep 2008 Thu 02:04 am

 

Quoting peacetrain

 

I understood what you were trying to say, I was supporting it.

 

 Yes I know I was just happy that you formulated a sentence I could not find



Thread: Some things to like about Sarah Palin

1086.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 11 Sep 2008 Thu 01:57 am

 

Quoting peacetrain

 This is what happens in State schools, in England and Wales between the ages of 5 and 16 although 50% of the teaching is about Christianity.  It is taught as "This is what ´x´ believes. This is a festival celebrated by ´y´.  This is how ´z´ worships."  It is educatin rather than instruction.

 

 Yes. I based my idea on the education I have received in the first 3 years of highschool in the Netherlands. The lesson is not called ´religion´ or anything. It is called something that can be translated as ´View on life´. The latter 3 years of that education consisted of some more philosophical point of view, with introduction of persons as Freud, reading the little prince, and thinking about things as abortion and euthansia.

 

An education instead of instruction, that is what I tried to say!!



Thread: Some things to like about Sarah Palin

1087.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 11 Sep 2008 Thu 01:54 am

 

Quoting TrainStation

I completely agree with you on this. But following now you, we also shouldn´t prohibit drugs and alcohol since it would drive them unerground.

 

 Well, in my country we don´t prohibit soft drugs, and as far as I´m aware, the illegal drug scene is not that big as it used to be and therefore less hard to track down.

But, the US is probably too big to keep it in control the way we do. This was more just a side note.

 

I agree that prohibitin abortion will lead to scenes we have often seen at the news: special ships in ´secret´ harbours that provide dangerous abortions for women. Then we will loose ´two´ lives, if we consider that cell a life.



Thread: Some things to like about Sarah Palin

1088.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 11 Sep 2008 Thu 01:52 am

 

Quoting TrainStation

I was answering to alameda.

And I am not superficial at all. I take it serious. I thought a LOT on this subject. I often changed my mind: many times towards pro-abortion.

 

 You obviously take it serious. But also so far the only reason you gave that women might have, has been weight issues. That does make you sound very superficial, at least when it comes to your opinion on women.

 

I thought about this subject a lot too. If I were to get pregnant from the one I love any time before we planned, I would nto have an abortion. I think that with a little bit of effort, I could work to finish my education (and save my own life), and make money to provide the life of the child to be born. But this is my own personal opinion, which I have considered, and made a decision upon. I wish for every woman to have that choice, and to it be the way she sees fit.

 

So what is your opinion on the morning after pill then?



Thread: Little english to turkish help

1089.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 11 Sep 2008 Thu 01:46 am

 

Quoting lady in red

Well I´m confused now {#lang_emotions_unsure} because both in my Turkish learning book and in the course I had last winter we were told that istemek always took the infinitive .  And in post 14 of this thread:

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_1729_2  cyrano makes the point that this is ´better´.  But since you are studying Turkish DK I can hardly disagree with you!  Why is learning Turkish SO confusing???

 

 It can be better or preferable, but grammatically using accusative is not wrong. And saying that ´istemek always takes infinitive´ is a wrong statement. Let´s make it aorist past time:

 

Ben polis olmayı çok isterdim

- I wanted to become a cop so much (I would have liked, but I didnt become). Using the infinitive here is wrong.

 

I think it is only with the şimdiki zamanı that you can use both, though I think infinitive would be preferable.  But in past time, you cannot use infinitive.



Thread: Some things to like about Sarah Palin

1090.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 11 Sep 2008 Thu 01:41 am

I also agree with thehandsom when it comes to religious education. Although I think that a multiple-religious education wouldnt be a bad idea either. Each teenager could be taught the basic beliefs of the worlds major faiths, the basic religious practices and the backgrounds behind these etc.



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