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Thread: ANDIMIZ! (Student Vow)

1981.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 02 Apr 2008 Wed 12:12 am

Quoting KeithL:

So, to my point. The free spirits in America that want to ban Christmas Trees, Nativity scenes and yes....the Pledge of Allegiance, I hear them, but I don't respect them.



I just wonder how you get these together? I dont know the Pledge of Allegiance, but let's say Andımız, Christmas Tree and Nativity. I'm not a Christian, but I would want for the Christmas tree and the Nativity to stay, but Im not a supporter of the Ant.

Or is this a specific three-combination of a certain group in the States?



Thread: ANDIMIZ! (Student Vow)

1982.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 02 Apr 2008 Wed 12:08 am

I just want to add one thing: French nationalism isnt really comparable to the nationalism you find in other West-European countries.. You are right, they are strong nationalistic and dont easily accept other people. Actually, I have been there on holidays many many times, and even if they spoke English, they just refuse to speak anything but French with me lol


And when Atatürk said 'Ne mutlu Türküm diyene', I am sure he meant nationality the way you try to describe: peaceful, with space for all ethnicities united in one Turkey. But it is put a little out of context by many ülkücü Im afraid


As a last: I respect your traditions, but that doesn't mean I agree with them And if you want a country to improve, you have to question your own traditions: what is good about them and what needs change? How can we improve our country, without loosing touch with our inheritage? But I dont think that is disrespectful. I think that is what Atatürk wanted: a people that grows to the future and moves along with the time.



Thread: Aysun Kayacı comments are very thought provoking...

1983.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 11:57 pm

I never liked her anyway. Doesn't she play in Doktorlar too? She has such a plasticsurgery face, and mrX, her blonde is fake

I know these are offtopic-thoughts, but anyway



Thread: Aysun Kayacı comments are very thought provoking...

1984.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 11:56 pm

Quoting catwoman:

I like this response:



"Let's pray for them so that they can regain their mental health"



Thread: Happy Birthday Lapinkulta:)))

1985.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 11:54 pm

Quoting janissary:

drop "çok" doğum günün kutlu olsun is enough for this sentence.




Oh really? Then I have sent a wrong sms to Rüya as well today



Thread: Aysun Kayacı comments are very thought provoking...

1986.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 11:53 pm

Quoting MrX67:

God Bless all blondies



Oh I feel blessed now



Thread: Happy Birthday Lapinkulta:)))

1987.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 11:49 pm

Doğum günün kutlu olsun

Your bday is the same with one of my close Turkish friends And this is not joke either



Thread: ANDIMIZ! (Student Vow)

1988.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 11:47 pm

Quoting Lapinkulta:

coz of u Many Turks are against EU.



Onlar kemalist değiller o zaman.. Because joining EU would be a crown to all that Atatürk has fought for: westernization!



Thread: ANDIMIZ! (Student Vow)

1989.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 11:31 pm

Quoting Lapinkulta:

we turks dont care about u



İşte o bir yalan If you really didnt care, then you wouldnt bother to reply at all And please speak for yourself, not all Turks think that way.



Thread: Turkey orders trial of ruling party

1990.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 10:08 pm

Quoting KeithL:

Well, being loyal to Ataturk means being a Kemalist, doesn't it?

Deli, read the preamble and the first four articles of the constitution and maybe you will see why some (including me) see this so clearly.



Ok I will have a look at it, thanks for the tip

Yes you are probably right.. I have lots of respect for Atatürk, but after having watched some documentaries on Turkish politics, according to those documentaries the Kemalists arent trying to move foreward. They live in a praise of the past, whereas AKP did do things to move forwards. MHP is not an option at all, so if the AKP closes, I hope a strong party emerges that combines the 'good actions' and 'force' of AKP, with the secularism of CHP.

But these are just based upon some western documentaries so I dont know how much they are trustworthy. With the experience I have so far, I have concluded they are right.



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