It is still an unmannered custom

And better delete the one who said that from your contact-list too..

Those people are usually uneducated and very unmannered to talk in such a way. If the commented was directly meant for you, that person really doesnt care a .... about you.

I think AlphaF deliberately understood me wrong. And it is a misconception to think that Holland is a good place to curse Turkey. If you hear Wilders speak on foreign affairs, please dont think you know us all. Holland has a big integration-problem and there are some people who have a strange way of dealing with it. But Dutch government or society does not encourage to curse or discriminate against Turks. And yes, I felt offended by this just a tiny bit


In Turkey the line between insult and criticism is too small, not only in some peoples head.

I dont think I ever purposedly insulted someone, but to me there is not only an important difference between insult-criticism, but also a difference in how people receive so called 'insults'. What is an insult to one, can be criticism to another.

Just as an example (no misunderstandings please, I have no opinion whatsoever on this, just to draw an example)

"Atatürk was an idiot because he didnt mention Kurdistan like he did in a former treaty."


Insult or criticism? Whats it for you? And whats it for the one you say it to?

I couldnt be bothered to put someone in jail for it or give a money ceza. Actually I see no harm in this at all. But Im pretty sure that many Turks will jump up and say you are offending Turkishness.

Sounds like bad experience

Yes. If you cant use the correct characters, change them into the normal ones. Its clearer than the question marks.


ş - s
ğ - g
ı - i
ç - c

I think the idea is not to say something bad about Turkey.

Someone else check my translation pleaaasee