A polite man should ask from time to time how you are doing.. and if you are in a bad mood and say "I better go" he should try to make you stay with him, because by saying 'i better go', you actually want to get the following answer 'oh no darling, please stay and tell me what's on your mind'
A polite man tehrefore must learn inverse-psychology

He should also hold the door for you, offer to hold the bags while shopping, offering to pay the bill..

It's not about DOING those, it's not about the fact he holds your heavy shoppingbags or pays a high bill when goin gout. It's about the fact he thínks of it to offer you, and as a polite woman you will sometimes happily take the offer, sometimes turn it down and do it yourself.

I don't think there exists a polite man without a polite woman in a happy relationship. So i think the only necessary for getting a polite man is being a polite woman yourself

"Wie goed doet, goed ontmoet"
(The one who does well, will meet well)

I think in this discussion two extremes stand against eachother: the western girl with (too) free morals, a free will, a free mind, not obeying, independent and the obeying, conservative Turkish girl.

But.. aren't those slutty western girls not actually exceptions of western culture? Among my friends there are no really easy girls. Yeah we like to go out and dance and yeah we wear mini-skirts. But no, we don't sleep with everybody we meet, we don't even kiss with everybody we meet and we make sure that our clothing hides the parts of the body that are only for us (and our true lovers).
And aren't those conservative, obeying Turkish girls the ones who live in the villages and not really in the big city? Isn't Turkish big city-life becoming more European than we are in Europe, without the nasty 'too free moral'- aspect?

I don't know if these are right, it's just my humble opinion. But i think that in this sort of discussion tehre is always too much fuzz about the slutty european girl (who is an exception on the rule and not representative for all of Europe) and the conservative obeying turkish girl (who is not representative for all of Türkiye either).

And about Sophie and the natural beauty.. i think we all adore what we don't have
I have blonde hair, blue eyes and pretty fair skin, would love to have dark waving hair and tanned skin. But look at the amount of Turkish girls wearing blue contacts, colouring their hair blonde.
I think Kadir's tanned look, dark hair and colour-changing eyes (either from hazel to green to dark brown), are extremely attractive. I like the fact he is strong and that i'm tiny. It are characteristics and looks i cannot find in Holland. Ofcourse everybody will try to find love closer to home But i do believe that it's always the other side we tend to adore more, than the own thigns we have.

iyi geceler!

Missy Elliot - Pass that Dutch

(does anyone know this colloquial expression? I don't know what it means )

I agree with Mery.

But neither do I have kids

In French 'Salut' also means hello, or hi


Welcome to the site

Or, as we say in my native language:

Welkom

Thanks

Or would you suggest something else/better?

Can somebody check this one sentence for me please?

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