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Thread: new year

951.       alameda
3499 posts
 31 Dec 2009 Thu 09:03 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

Could this be the oldest "New Year" wishes post on this site?

 

Well, you should know...{#emotions_dlg.rolleyes}

I wonder what happened to her?  She has not posted in a long time.

 

Yes,

 

Happy New Year to all....



Thread: turkish ottoman language

952.       alameda
3499 posts
 31 Dec 2009 Thu 08:42 pm

 

Quoting ikicihan

şark: doğu: east

garp: batı: west

şimal: kuzey: north

cenub: güney: south

 

ottoman vocabulary is heavly influenced by persian and arabic.

if you know persian, arabic and modern turkish, you dont need to study ottoman turkish so much.

 

True....but today´s Arabic might not work that well.  Osmanli is classical Arabic.  I wonder if the pronounciation of Osmanli Arabic words is similar to today´s pronounciation. (and just what of today´s Arabic pronounciation would be the best?)....there are a lot of letters in Arabic  and Turkish that don´t exist in each language.....It´s always amused me to hear Arabs saying basha instead of pasha....and Turkish speakers making z out of the th letters.  Like leziz instead of ledhidh=delicious

 

Then there are a lot of words that are very similar in Turkish, Persian and it´s related languages....like canim.....azizzim....Because of Islam being the prodominant religion in all these countries, there are many Arabic words in all of them.  It would be nice to be able to read Osmanli, wouldn´t it?



Thread: Human Trafficking

953.       alameda
3499 posts
 30 Dec 2009 Wed 10:49 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

 

 

Actually reporting it, is an action in my eyes. Sitting at home, telling your aunty that the place had bad food, is complaining. Nothing will change, unless your aunt has the power to close restaurants You have to do something, like report it to officials to change something.

 

What I mean was, is that you have to do the things that will actually make a difference, instead of talking about the situation in a way that will not actually change anything about the situation. I think we are on the same page actually

 

 

Actually just discussing a situation does help and adds energy to the issue.  Sometimes it helps to figure out just what is going on, and finding who/where to do the reporting.  We have all had that expereince.  You know the,  "did that really happen?" feeling?    Vineyards mentioned.....there is also the issue of corruption.  I have been through that many times reporting problems to the "authorities" who really just used it as fodder to get more bribes....A judge who was involved with a case I was working on was brought up on bribe charges....so it does happen. 

 

One single complaint disconnected rarely brings about change.  It is the cumulative effect of a group of united complaints that bring about change..........Then again, sometimes talking with your friends is the best type of reporting to do.   In reality....it is the peasants with their pitchforks and torches demanding change that brings it about.  Even just the threat or perceived threat of a bunch of protesters is often enough. The people do have the power, but the people are also subject to corruption as well.  After all, nobody likes to be uncomfortable...........which is our weakness...and cohesion is always a problem.  It´s easy to be distracted, particularly when working with a group of humans, all with different self interests.

 

A lawyer I was working with once told me...."remember, the squeaky wheel gets oiled"...........

 

In issues like this....human trafficking....we need to think of weeds....it spreads it´s seeds.  Pretty soon your yard is full of weeds that choke out your plants.  In cases like human trafficking, what is to prevent you or your loved ones from becoming a victim? Some well educated people have been trapped.....if we let it go....it will spread.  Which is to say we need to question talk about it and raise consciousness about the issue.

 

Stop Forced Child Labour

 

The US Department of State estimates that more than 109,000 children in Cote d’Ivoire’s cocoa industry work under “the worst forms of child labor,” and that some 10,000 are victims of human trafficking or enslavement.



Edited (12/30/2009) by alameda [add]



Thread: Istanbul 2010

954.       alameda
3499 posts
 30 Dec 2009 Wed 06:25 am

 

Quoting barba_mama

 

 

 Euro-asian centric...right It´s so eurocentric to forget that Istanbul is mostly Asian

I can not say Istanbul is the greatest city in the world... I haven´t been everywhere. But I have to say culture wise, it´s on top of my visited-cities list. On other aspects it doesn´t always score so good, like being groped in the tram-wise.

 

You can get groped anyplace...all you need is a crowded space.....hmmmm maybe they don´t grope in Holland?  I hate any crowded space for exactly that reason, but having grown up in a groping latitude, I´ve evolved a strategy to deal with it.  NYC must be grope capital of the world.

 

 



Edited (12/30/2009) by alameda [why not....?]



Thread: Human Trafficking

955.       alameda
3499 posts
 30 Dec 2009 Wed 04:23 am

 

Quoting barba_mama

 

 

I´m not saying questioning the status quo is bad. But people need to realize the actual power they can have if they speak up, and motivate others to do the same. I truly believe that a better world starts at yourself. So, not sit back and complain, about companies or governments, but actually do something about it. Protest, change your own behaviour, stuff like that.

 

 

Actually.....the whole thing begins with the questioning.....no questions....where are the answers?  Speaking without facts is not very effective.....but of course....it all starts at home.  You can call it a complaint...or you can call it reporting. If I ate in a place that gave me food poisoning and I report it, is it a complaint or am I doing a public service by letting others know?



Edited (12/30/2009) by alameda [duplicate words.....]



Thread: Turkish agenda

956.       alameda
3499 posts
 29 Dec 2009 Tue 08:09 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

I don´t know if it should be posted here, or in the travel threads, but oh well...

I was wondering if there are any interesting dates in the coming month (January, perhaps beginning of February) in Turkey. Festivals, holidays, just great fun stuff... I´m feeling the itch again and I don´t know how long I can control myself, I think I´ll have to go to Turkey soon! But I want to plan a trip around some special event or special day.

Anything will do. For example, the other day there was a camel wrestling festival in Kusadasi. Would have loved to experience that for once.

 

Hmmm.....maybe this will give you some ideas...?

 

Istanbul 2010 European Capital of Culture program

 

Be patient, it is a pdf file and takes a while to download....there are 93 pages, so you should find something interesting to do and see.



Thread: Istanbul 2010

957.       alameda
3499 posts
 29 Dec 2009 Tue 07:50 pm


 

Quoting alameda

Ummm....you are very right in that beauty is a subjective phenomenon...however for me Istanbul is the most amazing currently still alive city in the world. I think it has something to do with all the layers of civilization and cross cultural integration.

 

Istanbul undeniably has its own character and charm, but I wouldn´t say that it´s the most amazing city in the world, I find that to be a pretty strange thing to say anyway, kind of "eurocentric". I agree that Istanbul has some phenomenal landmarks and history, but as a city you can really only visit and tiny fraction of it, because the rest is just slums, with streets so tiny you can only park on them.

 

...again as I said, it is subjective......so to me it is the most amazing currently still alive city in the world......to you it is not............we both have our own subjective opinions....I really don´t see what is Eurocentric about it.....after all it is partly in Europe and partly in Asia.............and if you really think about it...the definition of Europe seems to be pretty subjective and fluid as well.  As for those narrow streets....If one can park on them....you can walk on them. I take no joy in a city drive....particularly if that drive is in Istanbul. Cars are a big problem there.

 

I just think for me, Istanbul is the most amazing city in the world....as for any European thing.....I have no opinion about that....but it does look like an interesting program....hmmm it should be shown to the Turkish Agenda thread...

 

Program    it takes time to download....there are 93 pages, but if you want ideas of what to do, there are a lot of things listed in the program



Edited (12/29/2009) by alameda [add]



Thread: Turkish agenda

958.       alameda
3499 posts
 29 Dec 2009 Tue 05:23 am

Maybe this will help?

 

In April there is a fabulous tulip festival in Istanbul,tulip festival that would be nice to see.

 

DateEnglish NameLocal NameRemarks
January 1 New Year´s Day Yılbaşı First day of the new year
April 23 National Sovereignty and Children´s Day Ulusal Egemenlik ve Çocuk Bayramı Commemoration of the first opening of the Grand National Assembly of Turkey at Ankara in 1920. Dedicated to the children.
May 1 Labour and Solidarity Day Emek ve Dayanışma Günü
May 19 Commemoration of Atatürk Youth and Sports Day Atatürk´ü Anma Gençlik ve Spor Bayramı Commemoration of the beginning of national liberation movement initiated in 1919 by Atatürk´s landing in Samsun. Dedicated to the youth.
August 30 Victory Day Zafer Bayramı Commemoration of the victory at the final battle in Dumlupınar ending the Turkish Independence War in 1922. Dedicated to the armed forces.
October 29 Republic Day Cumhuriyet Bayramı Commemoration of the proclamation of the republic in 1923. Also the halfday in the afternoon of previous day.
After the end of Islamic month Ramadan Ramadan Feast Ramazan Bayramı or Şeker Bayramı Religious holiday for 3 days. Also the halfday in the afternoon of previous day.
70 days after the end of Islamic month Ramadan Sacrifice Feast Kurban Bayramı Religio


Edited (12/29/2009) by alameda [edit photo]



Thread: What is your mood today?

959.       alameda
3499 posts
 28 Dec 2009 Mon 09:15 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

 

 

And I can´t spy on Elisabeth

 

I´m happy the spy function is gone....



Thread: Istanbul 2010

960.       alameda
3499 posts
 28 Dec 2009 Mon 09:13 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Anyway... have you ever been to anywhere in Istanbul outside of the touristic places? I think not

Ummm....you are very right in that beauty is a subjective phenomenon...however for me Istanbul is the most amazing currently still alive city in the world. I think it has something to do with all the layers of civilization and cross cultural integration.



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