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Thread: Norway: island shooting death toll rises to 84

411.       alameda
3499 posts
 06 Aug 2011 Sat 10:39 am

You, of course realize, what you are doing is repeating hateful Islamaphobe talking points. However saying it does not make it so. Do you think pounding out the same tired talking points over and over again will cause it to be?

I admit, it is possible some ignorant people do "in the name of XXX" as they do for other causes, and have done so with or wthout religion. Depravity knows no color lines or borders, it infects all societies. We could go on and on trading what XXX does and what ZZZ does...it does get tedious.  

Quoting Daydreamer

Let me think...yeap, still those who mutilate girls, sentence people to death because they converted, pour acid over the face of unveiled women and marry nine-year-olds all in the name of law .......................................................................................................

...............................................

You don´t strike me as a person likely to speak in favour of the above so obviously my comment was not aimed at you

Nor do any of the others here.........

 

 



Edited (8/6/2011) by alameda



Thread: Norway: island shooting death toll rises to 84

412.       alameda
3499 posts
 05 Aug 2011 Fri 02:03 am

I didn´t read it either. I don´t want that garbage in my mind. Howevever, there is such a thing as good taste, self censorship, rather than external censorship. We (the human race) could use with a bit more self censorship & introspection as to what our values are.

There is much that is censored and there is no complaint about it. Think about it seriously, do you really thing absolutly no censorship is a good idea? 

Quoting Elisabeth

I have not read this guys manefesto or done any extensive research on him so I don´t know to what extent he played these games and we will never know whether or not they truely influenced him with regards to his attack.  I am just curious, if the guy was obsessed with the movie Bambi, would we be pulling that off the shelves of stores too? 

 

Perhaps I am being a little hard headed about this but once a government goes down the road to censorship there is little that can be done to go back. 

 

 



Thread: Norway: island shooting death toll rises to 84

413.       alameda
3499 posts
 04 Aug 2011 Thu 09:36 pm

It´s not about prohibition of the games and violent videos. It´s rather about the social acceptability of them. It´s about the fact that they have not only become socialy acceptable, but are actually preferred to other types of entertainments. What person prefers to see hideous violence that dehumanized the practicioners, what does it say about a society? 

You show your absolute contempt here, and during Ramadan too. You really don´t get it do you? I wonder just who is the barbarian here?

Quoting Daydreamer

Maybe, after all, I will live to see a major cultural shift in the Middle East and abolition of the barbaric Islamic tradition.

 

 

 



Thread: What are you listening now?

414.       alameda
3499 posts
 02 Aug 2011 Tue 11:19 pm

Thank you tomac

I think you would like Moondog´s music

Quoting tomac

 

 

Thanks, I like it too. That´s quite impressive how many sounds can be made using frame drum.

 

Brian Eno - Music for Airports 1/1 (ambient)

Pulser - Sunseeker (trance)

Brian Eno - An Ending (Ascent) (ambient)

 

And fragment of Fatih Akın´s "Crossing the bridge - Sound of Istanbul" movie, with Siya Siyabend (not sure, but from what I´ve found, the name of the song is Çatı )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcM3WWEXsE0

 

 

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Thread: To all TC members \"Hayırlı Ramazanlar\"

415.       alameda
3499 posts
 01 Aug 2011 Mon 12:24 am

& you too Tunci

Quoting tunci

 

Hayırlı Ramazanlar Herkese !

I wish everyone have a nice Ramadan !

 

 

 

 

 

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Thread: To all TC members \"Hayırlı Ramazanlar\"

416.       alameda
3499 posts
 01 Aug 2011 Mon 12:23 am

and you too, and everyone who celebrates Ramadan....

Quoting Aida krishan

Ramazan ayi oyle bir aydir ki;

Basi Rahmet, Ortasi Magfiret,

Sonu Cehannem’den Azaddir.

Oruc; Sadece ac kalmak degil,

Allah’in; Rahmet,Bereket,

Magfiretine Kavusmaktir.

Oruc; Mu’minin nuru,

Allah’a yaklasmanin anahtaridir.

Yuce Allah Tum Ummed-I Muhammed’e

Ramazan ayi’nin butun faziletlerinden

Faydalanmayi,

Gunahlarimizin affedildigi bir ay olmasini

Nasip etsin

RAMAZAN AYINI MUBAREK OLSUN

{#emotions_dlg.pray} {#emotions_dlg.pray} {#emotions_dlg.pray}

 

 

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Thread: e TO T very important please

417.       alameda
3499 posts
 30 Jul 2011 Sat 04:40 am

Actually, she is right. Of course if you put Norwiegan Terrorist in Google, you are bound to get results with terrorist in the header.

However if you look at the headlines you will see it´s called the shooter, the bomber....not terrorist. They are called hate groups...not terrorists. 

Quoting Daydreamer

What a lot of bollix lol He´s been called terrorist in all Polish press releases and the main news channel spent a few days dealing with just this case. If you actually bothered a bit, instead of spreadfing nonsense, a quick googling might make you think twice

Let me Google that for you

 

 



Thread: Norway: island shooting death toll rises to 84

418.       alameda
3499 posts
 30 Jul 2011 Sat 04:02 am

Elisabeth, if it were so easy to know evil. All of us have evil in us, some more, some less. I think it develops one way or another during our lives. We choose with our tiny "free will" which way to go, and in doing so, we lend strength to different parts of our selves. 

In thinking of things as pure evil, we miss the insidious nature of evil. There are, of course, psychopathic personalities, which in most opinions are pretty evil, certainly, they are not compassionate people. It´s all about themselves and what they desire. 

Hitler was a very sick man, He was reputed to have syphllis, parkinsons, aspergers, schitzophrenia, amphetime addict and a whole litany of health and personality problems, but I don´t think he was actually a psychopath. He is not responsible for all that is attributed to him, rather it was a collective of social & economic issues that were the cause of all those horrors. It never is just one person or cause, it´s always like several streams running into a river and the matter of opportunity. 

I think all the hideous games of murder and mayhem that are taken so lightly pattern our minds to be more accepting of things. In a personality that is more susceptible, (like they encourage and promote them to do awful things. They feel they have some acceptance, they are doing what others would have liked to do.

When and if something is seen as so unacceptable as to be unthinkable, if they are considered "uncool" and they would be totally socially ostracized, there is less chance they will act on the impulses. 

Quoting Elisabeth

I understand your point alameda, but I can not agree.  The individuals who committed these crimes where by in large mentally ill.  As far as nobody being pure evil, I strongly disagree.  Hitler was responsible for millions of deaths (including the deaths of the German soldiers he sacrificed for his own ambitions).  Any kindness he showed was to further the facade and to mask his desire for ultimate power.  He was a sociopath...not capable of REAL genuine kindness unless it suited his purpose.  He did not play video games either.  In fact, most of the most prolific and horrifying people in history did not.  I am not advocating violent games but I think they are a much smaller factor in these cases than is made out.  

 

 



Thread: About Armenian Issue

419.       alameda
3499 posts
 29 Jul 2011 Fri 09:45 pm

Good Lord, what a nerve!!! I don´t know what the word is for such a thing. It sure is provocative incitement, and certainly an apology is in order. I´m surprised other world leaders have not commented, IMHO they should. 

Quoting si++

Turkish PM seeks Armenian apology after Israel

PM Erdoğan seeks an apology from Armenian President Sarkisian for his remarks on potentially reclaiming ‘Western Armenia’ from Turkey
The statements of the Armenian president are not an expression or an approach that suits a president. Equipping the next generations with hatred and enmity does not suit statesmanship,” Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said while visiting Azerbaijan.

 

Source: here

 

 



Thread: About Armenian Issue

420.       alameda
3499 posts
 27 Jul 2011 Wed 09:43 pm

Well how about.....

California legislators aid recovery of Armenian assets  for a start?

Quoting barba_mama

Really...multi-billion? You seem to get more and more off-track with this issue. How is claiming there was a genocide giving the Armenians income?

 

 

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