I´m so sad that even you fell for this G. First of all, they were not Turkish citizens, they were Dutch citizens. They were born here, their children are born here, all their families live here, they speak Dutch, they work here, they play soccer here, they pay taxes here, they will prb die here and once or maybe twice a year they visit the old country because the sun is so nice.
Second, when this handful of hooligans was gathered, the riot police was ordered to come. Then they kept calm until the riot police were gone, and then they attacked the remaining police. They were throwing bricks and stones taken out of the street, and kicking policemen when they were down on the ground. Those images you don´t get to see in Turkey but we do. And this one man is so lucky and should be thanking god on his knees that he was only bit in his ass by a dog, instead of being shot, which would have been totally justified if policeofficers had to defend themselves. I totally agree with you things should have been handled without force, but tell that to the people who started it. And I won´t even say anything about what would have happened if this kind of hooligan riot had started on Taksim. Also I totally agree this is a win for both extreme sides. Sadly. I´m just happy extreme right didn´t win the elections in my country because of this.
As for the ´deporting by force´ of the Turkish minster, see above and this is what I heard from the mayor: while police were being attacked, the ministers and her security agents refused to come out of the car. Dutch police were totally unaware who else was inside the car, if they were armed, what their plans were, and how they would come out of the car. They are obligated to secure the situation, so they had to take into account the possibilty that there were weapons in the car, that people would come out of that car with their guns pulled, reading to shoot or even shooting. The minister herself was never treated ´brutally´ as you call it. Had they just come out of the car, nothing would have been the matter, although indeed as she was a foreign government in the house of another government without permission, she would have been escorted out nevertheless.
Please don´t believe anything you read in the papers. Even I don´t do that.
Also, this word ´insulting´ doesn´t mean very much in Holland. Police do what they have to do and they have a right to do it. Turkish parliament just abolished ministerial immunity didn´t they? Well, welcome to abiding the law young lady!
I meant Turkish citizens of Holland. And I think maybe some of them are both citizens of Holland and Turkey. I didnt know the both sides of the story. I didnt know about holigans attacking police when they were outnumbered. All I saw that a police dog biting a Turkish protestor and police preventing others to help him. That really made me angry. Because he is a human being and he deserves to be treated so. I still think it is inhuman using dogs against protestors. There must be other methods to handle them. You say that police could shoot him. That is unaccaptable too. Is it that easy to kill a person?
I think Holland has valid arguements too. And I think it was wrong going uninvited but I still believe that to get the votes of extremists Holland goverment used unneccessary force. And that made me see that democracy is just a fancy word even in Europe. I witnessed that same things happening here every day can happen in Holland too. It was a big disappointment for me. I hate populism and vote hunting more than anything.
