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Thread: E-T: It´s one of the things on my bucket list

1.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Apr 2020 Tue 05:14 pm   Quoting Leo S     I know this is not an exact translatiion of my original query but regardless does this variation make sense? listesimim yapmak istediğim bir şey   No. It doesnt make sense. You can say "listemdeki yapmak istediğim bir şey" -si is possesive suffix for third person. -(i)m is possesive sufix for first person. You cant use them both. Edited (4/21/2020) by gokuyum

Thread: To have your

2.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Nov 2019 Tue 04:51 pm     Edited (12/27/2019) by gokuyum Edited (12/27/2019) by gokuyum

Thread: T-E: rahmet vs minnetle anyioruz

3.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Nov 2019 Tue 04:48 pm   Quoting Leo S rahmet vs minnetle anyıoruz   Maybe it can be translated as "We remember him with mercy and gratitude."

Thread: To have your

4.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Nov 2019 Tue 04:46 pm   Quoting denizli Simple sentence: I have a car. Bir arabam var. So I thought:  I have your car. Ben arabanam var. (which I know is wrong)   I found on-line: I have your car. Araban bende.   Can I use var here? i.e. when using to have your... You can say "Bende araban var." But it is not very meaningful. "Araban bende." is much better.

Thread: Göre explained

5.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jun 2019 Sat 08:44 pm -e/a göre So answer is dative (e/a)

Thread: Rahatsız

6.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jun 2019 Tue 11:58 am   Quoting denizli   Bizde ablama gidiyoruz oğlu biraz rahatsız o bu (onu?) sormaya. We are going to visit our big sister. Her son is a little unwell. We will ask about him (his situation) Yok o değil ablam ın oğlu rahatsız onu sormaya gidecez dedim. No, not him. I said " My big sister´s son is unwell. We will ask about him".       Edited (6/18/2019) by gokuyum

Thread: Bilen?

7.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Jun 2019 Wed 09:36 am   Quoting Milena215 What is mean? Bilen (bilmek).   Bilen means "the one who knows"

Thread: E-T: I´m after a month by month non-contractual rental agreement.

8.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Nov 2018 Mon 01:03 pm   Quoting Leo S I´m after a month by month non-contractual rental agreement. I´m after a one year lease but I won´t be paying you upfront for the whole year but rather month by month. Is there a bond for the property? If so, how much? I was after a quiet neighborhood, with no pollution, low-crime area.   Şimdiden teşekkür ederim     Ben bir yıl için aylık ödemeli ve sözleşmesiz anlaşma yapmak istiyorum.  Tüm yıl için peşin ödemek yerine ay ay kira ödemek istiyorum. Depozito ödemem gerekiyor mu? Gerekiyorsa, ne kadar? Sessiz, çevre kirliliğinin olmadığı, suç oranı düşük, güvenli bir mahallede oturmak istiyorum.   Leo S liked this message

Thread: ne demek?

9.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Nov 2018 Mon 12:48 pm " Edited (11/5/2018) by gokuyum

Thread: ne demek?

10.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Nov 2018 Mon 12:48 pm   Quoting rlydick So you would say to a person like this   Me : Zahmet olmazsa su getirebeilir misin bana?   Them : Olur   Me : Tsklr su gibi aziz olsun!     I think only old people use that expression. It sounds out-dated. Just say thanks. Edited (11/5/2018) by gokuyum

Thread: TUR-ENG PLEASE...THANK U

11.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Jul 2018 Thu 09:33 am   Quoting Poeta Nefis ile savaşmaktır "Aşk". Yârin eline el sürmek için can atarken Ellerini birbirine kenetleyip - “Ar” etmektir ; Aşk .   Love is to fight against ego. It is to clamp your hands and be ashamed when you are so eager to touch the beloved´s hand.

Thread: Can someone translate this into English?

12.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Feb 2018 Mon 10:45 pm   Quoting aruwin Sevda dedikleri meret, hep can acıtmaz mı? Bir ananın mesela. Evlat sevdası değil midir en büyük yarası? Ya da sevilmediğin halde... istenmediğin halde, vazgeçememek acıtmaz mı?   The thing called love, doesnt it always hurt ? For example isn´t a mother´s love for her child her biggest wound? Or although you are not loved and not wanted, doesnt "not being able to give up" hurt?   aruwin liked this message

Thread: E to T: Turkish can be quite a charming language once you...

13.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jun 2017 Thu 04:26 pm   Quoting Leo S Translate: 1. Turkish can be quite a charming language once you manage to get a grip on it. 2. Turkish can be quite a charming language once you manage to get a grip on it´s subtle nuances 3. Turkish is a captivating language.   Sağol Bir kere kavrayınca Türkçe çok çekici bir dil olabiliyor. Türkçenin ince nüanslarını bir kere kavrayınca Türkçe çok çekici bir dil olabiliyor. Türkçe büyüleyici bir dil.     Leo S liked this message

Thread: How can I improve my Turkish essay writing skills?

14.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jun 2017 Thu 04:20 pm   Quoting Cypher Hello, Friends!   I was trying to write an essay about something, but I couldn´t construct a well developed and meaning full article. Is there any tip, or some common Turkish words, phrases or sentences to tackle my problem? or a website I can learn and practice?   Lot of Thanks.   Try to write something and post it here for corrections.

Thread: Urgently need an accurate translation from English to Turkish for a short phrase, thank you!

15.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jun 2017 Thu 04:13 pm   Quoting bennyblanco Hi guys, Urgently need an accurate translation from English to Turkish, it´s just one sentence long and is a wish for the coming holiday I will write in a card. Would really appreciate your support, need it for this weekend. Thank you in advance and here is the sentence I want to be translated accurately to Turkish:   "I´ll be your secret angel today as I want to wish you all of the best for Eid. Please accept my humble gift for the holiday and start this week with something sweet from me."   Sana bayram için en iyi dileklerimi sunmak istiyorum ve bugün senin gizli meleğin olacağım. Tatil için mütevazi hediyemi lütfen kabul et ve haftaya benden gelen tatlı bir şeyle başla.   Edited (6/22/2017) by gokuyum Edited (6/22/2017) by gokuyum

Thread: Ankaraya donuyorsun?

16.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Apr 2017 Tue 04:11 pm You can easily use some tenses instead of other tenses in Turkish. This is called "zaman kayması/anlam kayması (time slip/meaning slip)". So with present continous tense you can mean future. There are other possibilities too: Present continous means future: Yarın geliyorum. Present simple tense means past: Maça gidelim derler ve giderler. Present simple means future: Yarın gider. Present continous means simple present: Her hafta sonu sinemaya gidiyor.   http://dilbilgisi.gen.tr/fiillerde-anlam-kaymasi/             Edited (4/18/2017) by gokuyum Edited (4/18/2017) by gokuyum Edited (4/18/2017) by gokuyum Siavash2015 liked this message

Thread: gidilir

17.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Apr 2017 Tue 12:18 am   Quoting Siavash2015 Hello everyone. Would you please help me with this? İzmire hangi yoldan gidilir? Why does the verb "gidilir"  has been used? Why is it third person singular?   Much obliged beforehand   It is passive. There is no way to translate it literally. But even it would be nonsense in English I will try. From which way it is gone to Izmir? Edited (4/18/2017) by gokuyum

Thread: Çünkü işte öyle...

18.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Apr 2017 Sat 11:41 am   Quoting JNQ "Women´s thoughts don´t change", what kind of medieval thing is that to say? Any mind can be changed if there are valid arguments. Also I don´t understand why Turkish people (yes-voters) are so willing to part from their own rights? How is it that they are willingly giving up and giving away their own rights? Even if the current president is a good president, who comes after him? And what will he do with those rights? It puzzels me... Fiskje88 I applaud you for your courage. Some day people will know and appreciate real peace and acceptance because of people like you. He wrote the woman´s thoughts will not change. It is not so easy for all parents to accept such a thing. But in Holland things can be easier than in Turkey because of cultural atmosphere.

Thread: E to T my attempt!

19.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Apr 2017 Wed 06:29 pm Kimse senin için Türkiye´den paket göndermedi. Kimse means nobody but because verb is already negative I guess it should be understood as anybody here. I dont know if it makes sense in English. Anybody didnt send a package for you from Turkey. It really sounds weird. How about translating it with double negative? Nobody didnt send a package for you from Turkey.   denizli liked this message

Thread: E to T

20.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Apr 2017 Sat 11:32 am   Quoting denizli İs this OK?    Because I remember that you thought she really isn´t good.    Çünkü   gerçekten iyi olmadığını düşünmeni  hazırladım     Çünkü onun gerçekten iyi olmadığını düşündüğünü hatırladım.

Thread: E to T

21.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Apr 2017 Sat 11:32 am   Quoting denizli İs this OK?    Because I remember that you thought she really isn´t good.    Çünkü   gerçekten iyi olmadığını düşünmeni  hazırladım     Çünkü onun gerçekten iyi olmadığını düşündüğünü hatırladım.

Thread: Taksim lokantasında/Taksim lokantada?

22.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Apr 2017 Sat 11:30 am   Quoting Siavash2015 Dear all, I´m a beginner and I have a question. What´s the difference between Taksim lokantasında/Taksim lokantada?   It must be Taksim Lokantası.

Thread: directions translation please

23.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Mar 2017 Sun 11:54 am   Quoting john250 Turkce nasil denir?... Can you come tomorrow? Take the road opposite sam´s place Sam´in yerinin karşısındaki yoldan git.

Thread: e to t pls urgent!!

24.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Mar 2017 Sat 12:28 pm   Quoting nessah hrtyhrtyhrtyrty   It means " I am noisy"

Thread: Fix the site

25.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Mar 2017 Sat 09:36 am I cant upload any photo to my profile page. Am I the only person who has this problem?

Thread: e to t pls urgent!!

26.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Mar 2017 Fri 11:40 pm   Quoting nessah hrtyhrtyhrtyrty   It means " I am noisy"

Thread: Birthday wish...

27.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Mar 2017 Fri 11:34 pm   Quoting soul2soul No one helped, unkind S.   You need to learn being patient. Some people even wait for an answer for a few days. You havent even waited for a few hours.

Thread: wish (verb)

28.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Mar 2017 Thu 06:29 pm   Quoting JNQ Thanks. Could have known that.. :/   But you didnt

Thread: wish (verb)

29.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Mar 2017 Thu 02:00 pm   Quoting JNQ Thanks. Could have known that.. :/   But you didnt

Thread: wish (verb)

30.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Mar 2017 Thu 01:45 pm   Quoting JNQ Thanks. Could have known that.. :/   But you didnt

Thread: wish (verb)

31.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Mar 2017 Thu 01:09 pm   Quoting JNQ How about ´I wish I COULD go skiing´?   Keşke kayağa gidebilsem. JNQ liked this message

Thread: Turkey May Hit Netherlands With Sanctions As Row Escalates

32.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Mar 2017 Wed 06:01 pm   Quoting denizli     I don´t think either Government planned it as a game. How can you plan hooliganism. These things just escalate. No different than at a Footbal Stadium. The hooligans do this, then the Police do that, then the hooligans respond, then the police respond... If the hooligans don´t stop, eventually someone gets hurt. I wasn´t there but it didn´t seem like a peaceful protest. Anyways it doesn´t make sense for the Dutch Government to plan something like this. It was the PVV party, the anti-immigrant party who looked like they benifitted, and they are not the Government. As after the clash, Geert Wilders stated on live television, according to him: the Turkish immigrants showed thier true colors that day, that they support Turkey over the Netherlands. And then the PVV party ended up doing well in the election, finishing in 2nd place and with more seats than in the 2012 election.   You can plan everything. I believe Holland goverment thought that giving a brutal response to Turkish protestors, diplomats and Turkish minister would help them have the sympathy of some voters. They knew Wilders was increasing his votes with his speeches against Turkey and Muslims and they decided to act violently to compete against him. That is what I think. I dont want to argue about this anymore. I explained myself very clearly. Maybe I am wrong. And maybe Holland goverment is full of angels (although they acted violently). Maybe I am paranoid or a conspiracy teorist. Maybe l am trolling you (someone wrote to me that) because I criticise the unnecessary use of force. But it is my nature not to trust politicians. What can I do? I cant change myself after so many years   Edited (3/22/2017) by gokuyum Edited (3/22/2017) by gokuyum Edited (3/22/2017) by gokuyum Edited (3/22/2017) by gokuyum denizli liked this message

Thread: Turkey May Hit Netherlands With Sanctions As Row Escalates

33.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Mar 2017 Wed 11:21 am   Quoting JNQ     There was no brutal action. They were being attacked by hooligans. No guns were used. It wasn´t calculated by the Dutch government, is was calculated by the Turkish government.  It was calculated by both sides. It was a political game. It makes me suprised to see you fanatically defend your goverment.   Edited (3/22/2017) by gokuyum

Thread: wish (verb)

34.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Mar 2017 Wed 01:16 am   Quoting denizli But, I wish I went, is past tense.  I wish I went, I wish I had gone, are often interchangeable I think it depends on the context: I wish I went skiing today - gitsem I wish I went skiing last winter - gitseydim       In English I guess you wish in the past tense even if you want it to happen now. But in Turkish it is not so. The wish mode -se/sa doesnt have time or a tense in Turkish. It is timeless. But you can use past tense after it and that way you can express the time. You cant use other tenses after or before it.

Thread: Turkey May Hit Netherlands With Sanctions As Row Escalates

35.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Mar 2017 Wed 01:06 am   Quoting og2009 maybe this is a political game...politics means "giving image for communities" according to the political sciences...    That is exactly what I wanted to tell.

Thread: Turkey May Hit Netherlands With Sanctions As Row Escalates

36.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Mar 2017 Wed 12:23 am   Quoting JNQ There was no unnecessary force used. Police are armed. Turkish police is armed too. If they have to use their weapons, they will occasionally hurt or kill people. It has happened. In all countries. Police have the right to do so in certain circumstances. And dogs are used on the police force everywhere. Turkish media made you believe by framing that it´s such an unusual thing to use dogs but it isn´t. They are on the airport, on investigantions, on football matches. Turkish police uses dogs too, don´t think they don´t. You can rest assured that with 50 cameras standing there it was necessary and they had a right to use them too. It´s really silly to think using weapons is better than using dogs.  And they didn´t prevent the others from helping, they prevented the others from getting bitten by the dog.       I cant approve unnecessary use of police force. It doesnt matter where it happens. No police must shoot someone unless he is attacked by a lethal weapon. Would you want polices to be like American police who can shoot people without a solid reason?   Edited (3/22/2017) by gokuyum Edited (3/22/2017) by gokuyum

Thread: Turkey May Hit Netherlands With Sanctions As Row Escalates

37.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Mar 2017 Wed 12:23 am   . Edited (3/22/2017) by gokuyum

Thread: Turkey May Hit Netherlands With Sanctions As Row Escalates

38.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Mar 2017 Wed 12:21 am   Quoting denizli     I don´t think that´s correct. The Dutch extremists is not the government. The Dutch extremist (Geert Wilders/PVV Paty) was/is an opposition party. They are in the parliament in Holland, but not in the Government.   I know who he is. Maybe it was wrong to use extremist term. What I meant is there  are nationalists and patriots who vote for these parties. Other than them all people more or less have patriotic feelings.A brutal action against Turkey could change the way of some votes and I guess it did. This must have been calculated by Holland goverment. All I criticise is violence, populism and vote hunting.  Edited (3/22/2017) by gokuyum

Thread: Turkey May Hit Netherlands With Sanctions As Row Escalates

39.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Mar 2017 Tue 06:45 pm   Quoting JNQ     I´m so sad that even you fell for this G. First of all, they were not Turkish citizens, they were Dutch citizens. They were born here, their children are born here, all their families live here, they speak Dutch, they work here, they play soccer here, they pay taxes here, they will prb die here and once or maybe twice a year they visit the old country because the sun is so nice.  Second, when this handful of hooligans was gathered, the riot police was ordered to come. Then they kept calm until the riot police were gone, and then they attacked the remaining police. They were throwing bricks and stones taken out of the street, and kicking policemen when they were down on the ground. Those images you don´t get to see in Turkey but we do. And this one man is so lucky and should be thanking god on his knees that he was only bit in his ass by a dog, instead of being shot, which would have been totally justified if policeofficers had to defend themselves. I totally agree with you things should have been handled without force, but tell that to the people who started it. And I won´t even say anything about what would have happened if this kind of hooligan riot had started on Taksim. Also I totally agree this is a win for both extreme sides. Sadly. I´m just happy extreme right didn´t win the elections in my country because of this.  As for the ´deporting by force´ of the Turkish minster, see above and this is what I heard from the mayor: while police were being attacked, the ministers and her security agents refused to come out of the car. Dutch police were totally unaware who else was inside the car, if they were armed, what their plans were, and how they would come out of the car. They are obligated to secure the situation, so they had to take into account the possibilty that there were weapons in the car, that people would come out of that car with their guns pulled, reading to shoot or even shooting. The minister herself was never treated ´brutally´ as you call it. Had they just come out of the car, nothing would have been the matter, although indeed as she was a foreign government in the house of another government without permission, she would have been escorted out nevertheless.  Please don´t believe anything you read in the papers. Even I don´t do that. Also, this word ´insulting´ doesn´t mean very much in Holland. Police do what they have to do and they have a right to do it. Turkish parliament just abolished ministerial immunity didn´t they? Well, welcome to abiding the law young lady!    I meant Turkish citizens of Holland. And I think maybe some of them are both citizens of Holland and Turkey. I didnt know the both sides of the story. I didnt know about holigans attacking police when they were outnumbered. All I saw that a police dog biting a Turkish protestor and police preventing others to help him. That really made me angry. Because he is a human being and he deserves to be treated so. I still think it is inhuman using dogs against protestors. There must be other methods to handle them. You say that police could shoot him. That is unaccaptable too. Is it that easy to kill a person? I think Holland has valid arguements too. And I think it was wrong going uninvited but I still believe that to get the votes of extremists Holland goverment used unneccessary force. And that made me see that democracy is just a fancy word even in Europe. I witnessed that same things happening here every day can happen in Holland too. It was a big disappointment for me. I hate populism and vote hunting more than anything.   Edited (3/21/2017) by gokuyum Edited (3/21/2017) by gokuyum Edited (3/21/2017) by gokuyum Edited (3/21/2017) by gokuyum

Thread: taxi translation

40.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Mar 2017 Sat 05:55 pm   Quoting john250 Turkce nasil denir...can you stop at a shop please?   Bir dükkanda durur musunuz?

Thread: Oda hizmetçisi

41.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Mar 2017 Fri 01:11 pm   Quoting Kasimpasa Merhaba, Off to Turkey again in September and would like to know the name of our room cleaner from day one. They provide brilliant service and knowing someone´s name is very helpful. I think Room Cleaner or Chambermaid is translated as Oda hizmetçisi Usually if using the pronoun ´Our´ that would then become Oda hizmetçisimiz but just after some clarification. So to ask the name of our cleaner would that be Oda hizmetçisimiz, Onun adı ne ? Yardımlarınız için teşekkürler. Oda hizmetçimizin adı ne?

Thread: E to T my attempt!

42.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Mar 2017 Fri 01:10 pm   Quoting Polyglot Teheccud namazi için kalkmaya umuyorum. I hope to wake up for teheccud namaz. Thank you Teheccüd namazı için kalmayı umuyorum. or Teheccüd namazına kalkmayı umuyorum.

Thread: Turkey May Hit Netherlands With Sanctions As Row Escalates

43.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Mar 2017 Wed 04:00 pm   Quoting denizli   http://www.oann.com/turkey-promises-harsh-retaliation-after-netherlands-bars-ministers/   Wondering what people think. 2 questions: 1. Is this legitimate in the first place? i.e. for Politicians to go to another country, uninvited, to conduct some kind of public Political assembly in another country for the purposes of some Political purpose related to your own country. 2. What if this happened in Turkey, would Turkey even allow this? For example if a Dutch dimplomat visited Istanbul, without permission for some kind of Political Assembly in Taksim Square, to address all the Dutch people in Istanbul, for something in Holland that the President of Turkey doesn´t agree with in the first place. Or since there are very few Dutch people in Istanbul, what if this was a Syrian diplomat wanting to gather and address all the Syrians in Istanbul. I think it is wrong going uninvited. But the brutal behavior of Dutch polices towards Turkish citizens  and deporting of a Turkish minister by force is very insulting. Things must have been handled without force. But because of the elections in Holland, populist politicians chose to act this way. Actually it is a win-win situation now both for the extremists in Turkey and Holland. Democrats lost again.   Edited (3/15/2017) by gokuyum Edited (3/15/2017) by gokuyum denizli liked this message

Thread: E to T **I need help fast**

44.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Mar 2017 Sat 01:01 am   Quoting miamiheatftw I am trying to tell a restaurant owner that I am bringing a girl as my date to his restaurant. How do I say:   1. This is ____. (Her name) 2. This is our first date together, so I brought her here. 3. Keep it a secret.    1. Bu ____________ 2. İlk kez çıkıyoruz. Onu buraya getirdim. 3. Aramızda sır kalsın. miamiheatftw liked this message

Thread: dentist

45.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Mar 2017 Tue 01:36 pm   Quoting john250 Turkce´de nasil denir... I need/would like a check up please. I do not have any problems with my teeth Check up yaptırmak istiyorum. Dişlerimle ilgili bir problemim yok.

Thread: ayinda

46.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Mar 2017 Tue 10:04 am   Quoting john250  you both for your corrections which i understand.   Gokuyum...what does ayinin mean in your sentence? The sentence can be translated to English literally like this: I will go to Turkey in march month´s 21.  Mart ayı is march month in Turkish unlike month march in English.

Thread: ayinda

47.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Mar 2017 Tue 12:23 am   Quoting john250 Can someone explain the meaning of this word? I wrote to a friend  21 martda turkiye´de gidecegim my sentence was corrected to 21 martda ayinda ihave not used this word before   Your sentence must be like this : 21 Mart´ta Türkiye´ye gideceğim. Altrnatives: Martın 21´inde Türkiye´ye gideceğim. Mart ayının 21´inde Türkiye´ye gideceğim.   denizli liked this message

Thread: Turkish Sentence

48.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Mar 2017 Wed 09:09 am   Quoting Mehmet Iskandar Is it possible to create a sentence like this : "The place that i want to visit is X" ? İf so, how?   Ziyaret etmek istediğim yer X

Thread: Bir -i (Indefinite accusative problem with verbs)

49.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Feb 2017 Mon 06:48 pm   Quoting denizli gokuyum congratulations on reaching 5,000 Turkish Class Points! Çok güzel! This is a feat very few in the world have accomplished! Very impressive. Speech!... Speech!... Speech!...    Thank you

Thread: E to T my attempt!

50.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Feb 2017 Mon 02:21 pm .           Edited (2/27/2017) by gokuyum

Thread: E to T my attempt!

51.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Feb 2017 Mon 02:18 pm gönderecekleri temsilci:"The representative who they will send" - "gönder-ecek-leri"  this is an adjective verb. An adjective verb can have possesive suffix "ex: -leri" in Turkish because it can function as a noun like all adjectives. "-ecek" here is not only a tense it is also adjective verb suffix. konuşabileceği birisi : "Someone who he can talk to" "konuş-abil-ecek-i" this is an adjective verb too. -ecek has the same function here too. The adjective verb has a possesive suffix -i here . If you want detailed information, you must study "fiilimsiler". http://www.turkdilbilgisi.com/fiilimsiler/fiilimsiler.html   So in the sentences above there are possesive suffixes not the definitive (?) suffixes.   (?) I dont know how to call them in English       Edited (2/27/2017) by gokuyum Edited (2/27/2017) by gokuyum Edited (2/27/2017) by gokuyum

Thread: Bir -i (Indefinite accusative problem with verbs)

52.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Feb 2017 Mon 02:03 pm   Quoting JNQ     .. Apart from this being a very odd sentence (who goes around kissing indefinite children in the street??) .. what do both sentences respectively mean? Especially the first one? If it´s not indefinite?   Object in the first sentence is grammatically definite because "bir çocuğu" has the -u suffix but I think it is a mistake to make it definite because "bir" already makes it indefinite.  It must be "Sokakta bir çocuk öptüm." If we want to make it definite we must remove "bir" and add -u suffix after "çocuk":" Sokakta çocuğu öptüm." Sometimes we do this kind of mistakes in Turkish.   Edited (2/27/2017) by gokuyum JNQ and denizli liked this message

Thread: E to T my attempt!

53.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Feb 2017 Fri 12:51 pm   Quoting denizli     It is? I´m confused or with: olacağı ?   "kaptan olacak birini" is an adjective phrase. So it is correct. It means "someone who is going to be a captain"

Thread: sezen aksu Bir acı kahvenin

54.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Feb 2017 Fri 12:45 am   Quoting leilaaa Iyi aksamlar herkese , Is it possible to translate this song   Gün olur da bir dost ararsan eğer  Açıktır kapım sana çekinmeden gel  Sözlerimde inan ne sitem  Ne de kırgınlık bulamazsın  Bir gün yolun düşerse eğer  Beni bıraktığın gün gibi  Yine dost bulacaksın.   One day if you search for a friend My door is open for you, come in without hesitation. Believe me, you can find neither reproach Nor offense in my words. One day if you happen to pass, You will find me as a friend, Like the day you left me.   Here is a start.   Edited (2/24/2017) by gokuyum

Thread: Bir -i (Indefinite accusative problem with verbs)

55.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Feb 2017 Fri 12:19 am   Quoting aurum Hello. I am wondering if anyone could explain to me why some verbs require indefinite nouns to take the accusative case. I also wonder if there is a list of verbs like that. Let me give you an example: "Sokakta bir çocuğu öptüm." VS. "Sokakta bir çocuk gördüm." Obviously, "child" in both sentences is indefinite. If it were definite, it would take the accusative case in both cases, as follows: "Sokakta çocuğu öptüm." AND "Sokakta çocuğu gördüm." Both verbs "öpmek" and "görmek" use the accusative case when it comes to definite nouns. As far as I know, the majority of verbs do not use the accusative case when it comes to indefinite nouns. But there are still plenty of them that DO break the rules, as the case is with "öpmek".   I hope my question is clear enough. What are some other verbs that work like the verb "öpmek". Most importantly, WHY does it work that way? Thank you! "Sokakta bir çocuğu öptüm" here object(bir çocuğu) is definite not indefinite. When you use accusative case (-ı,-i,-u,-ü ) you make that object definite. So function of accusative case in Turkish is to make objects definite. I guess we have a different understanding of accusative case in Turkish.I guess in English grammar if a word is a direct object of a verb it is accusative no matter it is definite or indefinite but in Turkish translations I see that the term "accusative case" is only used for definite direct object. So this creates confusion for me.  So I will try to explain things without using "accusative" term. Some verbs want its objects to be definite(ends with -ı,-i,-u,-ü ), some don´t. Maybe there is such a list. I am sure some Turkish dictionaries can be useful too.   Edited (2/24/2017) by gokuyum Edited (2/24/2017) by gokuyum Edited (2/24/2017) by gokuyum Edited (2/24/2017) by gokuyum Frankosevreze liked this message

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56.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Feb 2017 Thu 11:54 pm   Quoting denizli     I think it´s: Kaptan olmak için birini seçin.   But hopefully someone can check... Kaptan olması için birini seçin.  Ol-ma-sı. You need possesive sufix -sı.

Thread: Turkish to English translation 9

57.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Feb 2017 Tue 10:10 pm   Quoting aruwin Hi! Can someone help translate this? It´s a really short one.    45:36 - 45:59   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBiABFgQ8e8 I really appreciate your enthuaism about trying to understand every episode of this tv series bit by bit with the translations. I guess no force can break a woman´s will if she is really determined to watch her favourite tv show As a man I would already give up if I was in the same situation.   Edited (2/21/2017) by gokuyum Edited (2/21/2017) by gokuyum

Thread: translating these sentences

58.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Feb 2017 Tue 09:59 pm   Quoting tarkim Does anyone can translate what does it means? kinkasana ulan?? its I am not jealous??   As translated above : Be jealous of me, dude. Ulan is a slang way of adressing someone and it is not kind. I prefered to translate it as dude but dude doesnt seem offensive but ulan can be very offensive. I use it sometimes when I address a very close friend if we are making jokes to annoy each other or when we talk slang.

Thread: Extremely confused!!

59.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Feb 2017 Tue 09:45 pm My advice to learners is: Don´t focus on grammar, focus on understanding. If you do so you will learn most of the grammar automatically in the process.

Thread: Extremely confused!!

60.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Feb 2017 Tue 09:39 pm   Quoting Tazx1   TO ´gokuyum´:  You have sent me a ´Treasure trove´ ... please also accept my profound thanks.  It will take me some time to explore it properly [in order to do it justice] ... I will let you know how I get along.     I am happy that I was able to help you. As you can see in the book, Turkish grammar is so vast and difficult. I dont think anyone can learn Turkish from a grammar book. It would be very difficult. I recommend reading parallel texts. Instead of trying to learn grammar rules, try to learn the expressions. Most of the Turkish people speak Turkish without knowing anything about grammar. They just know when to use which expression without knowing the structure of them. So I think you should do the same. You will be more familliar with the grammar in time.

Thread: Extremely confused!!

61.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Feb 2017 Tue 12:19 pm https://izabelaszmit.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/turkish-grammar.pdf How about this book? Look at page 139.  13. Chapter : The Verb Phrase.   Edited (2/21/2017) by gokuyum

Thread: Extremely confused!!

62.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Feb 2017 Mon 01:11 am   Quoting Tazx1 I am [an old person] a native speaker of English ... with very LITTLE knowledge of grammar.  In trying to cope with a foreign language [like Turkish] ... I am very confused when it comes to dealing with ´Passive´,´Reflexive´ and ´Causative´ suffixes coming together in one word ... i.e. in simultaneous agglutination.  Unfortunately this is the best way I can explain and hope those who are well versed in ´Grammar´ are able to understand my problem.   To quote, compound suffixes like ´-leştirmek´, ´-lendirmek´ etc., are difficult to handle.  For example a word like :-                                   > GERÇEK-LEŞ-TİR-İL-MİŞ <   .... goes right over my head.  Can someone kindly direct me to a source where I can begin to learn and comprehend such constructions.  Thanks.   http://www.turkishlanguage.co.uk/   You can learn a lot about Turkish grammer on this site. I agree with you that Turkish grammar is difficult and confusing and if I were a foreigner I would never try to learn Turkish It is always easier to learn a language from the language family which your native language is a member. Of course there are some exceptions too. For example I think learning Farsi is easier for a Turk because of some common vocabulary and easy grammar. That is why it is enjoying to learn Farsi for me but when I try to learn Russian I suffer a lot.   denizli liked this message

Thread: E2T please.

63.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Feb 2017 Mon 01:12 pm   Quoting am_1010 How do you translate this to Turkish please?:   "I wish it didn´t have to be this way." Is it: "Keşke bu şekilde olması gerekmezdi." ?   Keşke böyle olmasaydı.

Thread: The use of -(s)i?

64.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Feb 2017 Sat 09:16 pm   Quoting JNQ Hangisi means ´which of them´, ´whichever´. http://tureng.com/en/turkish-english/hangisi   The -(s)i is in this case a possesive adjective and means ´his´ or ´its´. http://www.turkishlanguage.co.uk/possadj.htm   Hangisi means which of them as JNQ wrote, -si is the equivelant of "of" in Turkish.

Thread: The use of -(s)i?

65.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Feb 2017 Sat 09:14 pm   Quoting Milena215 I saw Birincisi and doğrusu. Why we add -(si)?   We add -si because we need these words to have possessive suffix. Biricisi actually means first of them, doğrusu means truth of them. Edited (2/11/2017) by gokuyum

Thread: Buffer letter Y?

66.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Feb 2017 Sat 09:08 pm   Quoting Milena215 What heppend with (possessive) pronouns? Benim/Ben, how to say It was mine/me? It was mine: Benimdi.

Thread: Buffer letter Y?

67.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Feb 2017 Sat 09:07 pm   Quoting Milena215 Why we don´t add to anladım? Because anla isn´t suffixed or?   Anla is a verb. If it was a noun you must add the buffer letter. anlasaydı(if he had understood)now I added a buffer letter because there are two moods(first one -sa, second one -dı) and -sa ends with "a". Edited (2/12/2017) by gokuyum

Thread: İstanbul - Ziya Osman Saba (One stanza)

68.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Feb 2017 Thu 12:36 am   Quoting indus1590 Can someone help me translate this stanza?   Göğünde tanıdım ayın ondördünü. Kırlarında bilirim baharı, Herşey içimde, herşey, İstanbul yadigarı.     Thank you! I knew the fourteenth day of the moon in its sky I know the spring in its wilderness Evertything inside me, everything is Reminder of İstanbul

Thread: Words order in a sentence

69.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Feb 2017 Mon 01:05 pm   Quoting Milena215 Wich is words order in a: 1. simple and 2. complex sentence?  Thanks.   Turkish sentence structure is flexible. You can change the positions of all words if you want. But generally subject is the first word and verb is the last. It is same in a complex sentence too. In a complex sentence there are gerunds (filimsi) and they cant be formed with tenses. So it is easy to determine which verb to put to the end. The verb which has a tense and a personal suffix comes in the end. And the verb which doesnt have a tense and personal suffix doesnt.   Ex: Bana her gün okula gittiğini söyledi. He told me that he goes to school every day.   Edited (2/6/2017) by gokuyum Milena215 liked this message

Thread: E to T my attempt!

70.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2017 Wed 02:17 pm   Quoting Inscrutable Işe yürüken zikir yaparım. I do zikir whike walking to work. Thank You Correct. But you mistyped yürürken.

Thread: Technical Notice - LAST ATTEMPT

71.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2017 Wed 04:26 am   Quoting Tazx1 Yes that much I understand ... but how am I EXACTLY suppose to do this ... PLEASE I NEED TRANSLATION OF THE BLOCK OF TEXT !!! They have specified various ways ... my difficulty is that I do not follow because of Turkish ... PLESAE CAN SOME ONE DO THE BLOCK TRANSLATION ... THANKS     It says you need to go to the office mentioned above.   Tazx1 liked this message

Thread: Technical Notice - LAST ATTEMPT

72.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2017 Wed 02:46 am   Quoting Tazx1 Having failed to ´cut & paste´ the required text, I am now trying to type it in manually.  Please forgive the inconvenience.  I request a native speaker to translate the Turkish to English and oblige [Plz expect some transcription error(s)]: - >>.... bu nedenle, nezdinizdeki belgeler ve geçerli bir kimlik belgesi ile birlikte 15 Haziran 2017 tarihinden önce yukarıda belirtilen şubemize veya şubelerimizden birine şahsen başvurarak yada bu konuda bir talimat mektubu göndererek hesabınızla ilgili işlem yapılmasını sağlamanız geremekte olup aksi halde mevzuat uyarınca işlem yapılacağından bu tarihten sonra yapılacak başvurularda söz konusu hesap ile ilgili olarak tarafınıza herhangi bir ödemer yapılamacağına ve heasdp üzerinde herhangi bir hak iddia edilemeyceğine bilgi edinmenizi rica eder, essenlikler dileriz.<< Thank you in anticipation [plz forgive spelling errors]     Tazx1   They want you to apply about your account untill 15 June 2017 with the necessary documents and an identification card. After the date you will lose your rights on the account.   Shortly that is what it says.   Edited (2/1/2017) by gokuyum

Thread: traditional turkish saying. 2 lines help pls

73.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2017 Wed 01:23 am   Quoting Karnov Diyelim ki affettim. Hakkımı da helal ettim. Allah seni affedecek mi sanıyorsun.     Suppose I forgave and I gave my blessing, do you think God will forgive you? Edited (2/1/2017) by gokuyum Edited (2/1/2017) by gokuyum

Thread: traditional turkish saying. 2 lines help pls

74.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2017 Wed 01:21 am   Quoting Karnov I agree. They are very fat haha thank you very much for that.   How about this one?: Gülüşünü seversin Sesini seversin Sohbetini seversin sevmek için illa yüzünü görmek şart değil Yüreğinde duruşunu seversin. You love her smile, her voice, her chatting. It is not absolutely necessary to see her face. You love her being in your heart.

Thread: Buffer letter Y?

75.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jan 2017 Tue 10:05 pm   Quoting Milena215 Yes!    You know how to spoil me Edited (1/31/2017) by gokuyum

Thread: gayrimenkul kimliği

76.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jan 2017 Tue 09:45 pm   Quoting Leo S What´s the difference between gayrimenkul and emlak?   Here is my guess: Menkul´s root is nkl in Arabic and "nakil etmek" (nakletmek) means to transport in Turkish. So I think "menkul" must mean something transportable and gayri means "except" or "non" in Turkish. So here it must mean non and gayrimenkul must mean "non transportable". Emlak comes from Arabic root mlk. We have mülk in Turkish. It means possession. Emlak must be plural of it. So it means possessions. But in Turkish we use emlak for buildings, houses, places. So they are non transportable too. That is why I think two words have similar meanings. Edited (1/31/2017) by gokuyum

Thread: Buffer letter Y?

77.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jan 2017 Tue 09:37 pm   Quoting Milena215 Yes, I understood, thank you so much!    Maybe that is because I am a great teacher Milena215 liked this message

Thread: Buffer letter Y?

78.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jan 2017 Tue 08:58 pm If -di,-miş,-tir,-se suffixes are used after a noun or as a second tense they are called suffix verbs (ek fiil).And you use y buffer letter if it is necessary.  hasta is a noun. It ends with a vowel so you need to put y if you want to say hastaydı or hastaymış or hastaysa because here -dı, -mış, -sa are suffix verbs (because they come after a noun) but anla is a verb so you dont need to put y when you want to say anladım, anlamış, anlasa(because here -dı, -mış, -sa comes after a verb as the first tense) and when you use two tenses such as "gitmişti" miş is first tense, ti(-di) is second tense so -ti is a suffix verb but here it doesnt need any buffer letter because it doesnt come after a vowel. but when you look at this example "gelseydi", we still see y because -se is first tense and -di is second tense. So -di is a suffix verb and it needs a buffer letter because first tense -se ends with "e" vowel. Result: If a suffix verb comes after a noun which ends with a vowel you need buffer letter, if a suffix verb comes after first tense and if that tense´s suffix end with a vowel you also need a buffer letter.   I hope you understand me   Edited (1/31/2017) by gokuyum denizli and Milena215 liked this message

Thread: A succesful language teaching software

79.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jan 2017 Sun 04:10 pm Memrise. I highly recommend it. I study Russian and Farsi. You can study Turkish.I think it is very effective. But you need to pay to go on. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.memrise.android.memrisecompanion&hl=tr Edited (1/29/2017) by gokuyum Edited (1/29/2017) by gokuyum Milena215 liked this message

Thread: Sis

80.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jan 2017 Sun 03:41 pm   Quoting indus1590 How would you translate this?     Sarmış ufuklarını senin gene inatçı bir duman, öyle beyaz bir karanlık ki, git gide artan     Let me try: Again a stubborn fog covers your horizons, it is such an increasing white darkness.

Thread: traditional turkish saying. 2 lines help pls

81.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jan 2017 Thu 03:41 pm   Quoting Karnov Wow, that was quite dramatic. Thank you for the translation. How about this one, what does it say?   "Küçükken bir yatağa sığan kardeşler şimdi kavgalılar Dünyaya sığmıyorlar." The syblings who fit into a bed when they were children, now dont fit into world.   Karnov liked this message

Thread: T-E

82.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jan 2017 Thu 03:37 pm   Quoting JNQ       It seems I was careless. Dont think my grammer sucks

Thread: traditional turkish saying. 2 lines help pls

83.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jan 2017 Wed 08:39 pm   Quoting Karnov Küs değilsındir ama eskisi kadar da yakın değilsindir ya işte o durum çok kötü.   and..   Seviyorum dersin ya kısmetin olur ya imtihanin.   You still talk but you are not as close as before. That situation is worse. You say you love and she turns into kismet or trial.   Edited (1/25/2017) by gokuyum Edited (1/26/2017) by gokuyum Karnov liked this message

Thread: Translate from Karadeniz Turkish dialect to English

84.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jan 2017 Wed 08:33 pm   Quoting Mehmet Iskandar     Harika! Karadeniz lehçesini konuşabilir misiniz?  I live in Karadeniz region. There are different accents in the region. All of them are understandable for a Turk. My accent is not very different then İstanbul accent or at least I think so But there are a few differences too.

Thread: T-E

85.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jan 2017 Wed 08:29 pm   Quoting og2009 "Bir toplumda en büyük güç, birlik ve beraberliktir.Birlik ve beraberlik, karşılıklı saygı, sevgi ve güven ile sağlanır." The biggest power in a society is unity and togetherness. Unity and togetherness is achieved by mutual respect, love and trust.   Inscrutable and og2009 liked this message

Thread: Quote from Neset Ertas - gönül kimi severse aşk onda güzeldir

86.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jan 2017 Wed 08:26 pm   Quoting indus1590 How would you translate these into English?   gönül kimi severse aşk onda güzeldir Whoever the heart loves, love is good with her gönül kimi severse dünya güzeli odur Whoever the heart loves, she is the most beautiful in the world. Thanks!      Edited (1/25/2017) by gokuyum

Thread: E2T Please

87.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jan 2017 Sun 01:58 am   Quoting zeytinne Thank you!   Geçmiş olsun. Polyglot and denizli liked this message

Thread: E to T my attempt!

88.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jan 2017 Mon 05:18 pm   Quoting Polyglot Benim için senin hiç vaktın yok. You never have time for me. Thank you   Benim için hiçbir zaman vaktin olmuyor

Thread: Difference?

89.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jan 2017 Tue 10:31 pm Bende means "on me",ben de means "me too". First -de is a sufix which shows location, second one is conjuction. So it is written seperately. Edited (1/10/2017) by gokuyum Milena215 liked this message

Thread: english translation please!!!

90.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Jan 2017 Thu 07:08 pm   Quoting claudiucage Bir gun soz verdigim gibi hayatimda en fazla sevdigim kisiye geri donecam. Hatalarin bedeli odedik den sonra tekrar sana sarilip seni sevecam. Sabir...ozledim One day as I promised, I will go back to the person who I have loved most in my life. After I pay the price of mistakes, I will hug and love you again. Patience. I miss.   claudiucage liked this message

Thread: translate help tu - en

91.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Jan 2017 Wed 03:07 pm To eat something also means to like something a lot in Turkish. It sounds very cannibalistic

Thread: Translation

92.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Jan 2017 Wed 03:05 pm It sounds weird. Maybe it is " Kusura bakmayınız"?

Thread: Do Turkish men marry foreign women?

93.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Jan 2017 Wed 03:03 pm   Quoting Hanaxx     Ok I´m not trying to be rude or ´racist´ and sorry if I come across like that but what do you lot mean by foreigners? Because every single time I see questions and forums like this people say British American and religion in case you haven´t realised there are people such as me who live in Britain but are Musli m so how do we have different religion to you? British and American aren´t religions they´re cultures. Yes some people are racist but the same can be said for any race it isn´t just British and Americans. Honestly I just don´t get your definition of foreigner.   Foreigner is someone who is not Turkish. Your religion doesnt matter. And being a foreigner isnt a bad thing. Turks are really interested in meeting and talking with foreigners. That is why we have this forum, right?   Elisabeth, KarleenMc and bydand liked this message

Thread: can someone please translate this poem of mine into turkish

94.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Nov 2016 Mon 06:26 pm   Quoting mariya mihr you,with breathtaking eyes sen, nefes kesen gözlerinle eyes with lashes that pierce and then withdraw like a bloodstained sword O gözler ki kirpikleri kana bulanmış bir kılıç gibi deler ve çıkar. this mankind is mistaken,when you smile-it is heaven İnsanlık yanılıyor, güldüğün zaman cennet olur to be happy with eyes full of tears is my job since my heart has gone mad in love. gözyaşlarıyla dolu gözlerimle mutlu olmak benim işim çünkü kalbim aşkınla delirdi. my beloved, wait not for the day when we will take our place in the buriall ground sevgilim, ölüp gömüleceğimiz günü bekleme join me now, in this intoxication. bana şimdi katıl, bu sarhoşluk anında -mariya munir Nice poem.

Thread: Translate from Karadeniz Turkish dialect to English

95.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Nov 2016 Sun 05:09 am   Quoting Mehmet Iskandar Merhaba herkese   So i found a good Karadeniz song, i would like to know the meaning, but i don´t know the Karadeniz dialect. And here is the song :    Hani Sevduğum Hani (Selçuk Balcı) :   Bu dağlara gelmamun, ben onun canani İki sebebi vardur, hani sevduğum hani (2) Of me coming to these mountions, I am his beloved There are two reasons, where is my beloved, where? Birisi karli dağlar, ben onun canani Biri da nazli yardur, hani sevduğum hani (2) One is the snowy mountains, I am his beloved Other is the coy beloved, where is my beloved, where? Yaylanun çimenleri, ben onun canani Kurumadi mi kardan, hani sevduğum hani (2) The grasses of the highland, I am his beloved Havent the snow dried them, where is my beloved, where? Ne haber var sevduğum, ben onun canani     Verane yaylalardan, hani sevduğum hani (2)  What news are there, I am his beloved From the ruined highlands, where is my beloved, where? Geydum çaruklarumi, ben onun canani Gel bağla bağlarini, hani sevduğum hani (2) I wore my shoes, I am his beloved Come and tie the shoelaces, where is my beloved, where? Beraktum gidiyorum, ben onun canani Git o yaylalarini, hani sevduğum hani (4)  I have left and I am going, I am his beloved Go to your highlands, where is my beloved, where? and here ´s the link if you want to listen : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rffgBmptYs0 Teşekkür ederim     Edited (11/20/2016) by gokuyum Mehmet Iskandar and scalpel - - liked this message

Thread: English to Turkish Please (Yazar çok mu zor yazmış bana mı öyle geliyor)

96.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Nov 2016 Sun 04:47 am   Quoting Hallederiz If the law of distribution of mistakes is random (but is known), optimum on efficiency (at big n) estimations among all unbiased can be found on a methodMP. These estimations (A FORMULA) will not be linear on Y, despite of linearity(3). If to be limited by a class of linear estimations A FORMULA, irrespective on the law of distribution of mistakes of an estimation with optimum properties turns out at the set kind of a matrix.   Let´s search for such estimation X of a vector of parameters that at its substitution in (3) sum of squares of deviation experimental Y from predictable Y=X.O was minimal. Thus we assume that: ... My try: Hataların dağılımı kanunu rastgele ise (ama biliniyorsa), optimum etkinlikte (büyük n´de), tüm tarafsız tahminler metod MP´de bulunabilir. Bu tahminler (A formülü ) doğrusallığa rağmen( 3 ) Y´ de doğrusal olmayacaktır. Eğer A formülü bir sınıf doğrusal tahminlerle sınırlandırılacaksa hataların dağılımı kanunundan bağımsız olarak optimum özellikleri olan bir tahmin bir matrixin set türünde ortaya çıkabilir. I am not a mathematician so I am not sure if my translation makes sense. If it does I can translate the rest.      Edited (11/20/2016) by gokuyum Edited (11/20/2016) by gokuyum

Thread: T2E

97.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Nov 2016 Thu 12:13 pm   Quoting louay     Some people are loved so much so; Even if they were far away, they you give life, and soul as well. (i.e. they make you feel alive)       Hallederiz liked this message

Thread: Translation Help

98.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Nov 2016 Thu 12:11 pm   Quoting BP_3 Hello,   I think that I posted this question in the wrong forum so I´m reposting it here. There´s a dialogue and I can´t understand the third line of it. Could someone help me translate the final phrase?   -Vallahi erken bitiyor ama çıkışta çok özel bir randevum var. -Çok özel! -Ya özelin çoğu azı mı olur Sevinççiğim? There is not much or less of private matters dear Sevinç   Thank you!

Thread: Some Translation Questions

99.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Nov 2016 Thu 12:03 pm   Quoting BP_3 Hello,   I have a few questions I would appreciate if you could help me out with:   First, I wanted to ask if "bazılarını alabilir miyim" is correct for "can I get some of them?"   Correct.   Second, there is a few phrases I would like to know how to say in Turkish: -- While you do that, I´m going to get some laundry detergent. Sen onu yaparken, ben biraz çamaşır deterjanı alacağım. --It looks like we just ran out. Öyle gözüküyor ki az önce bitmiş. --Are you open? (As in an aisle at a grocery store) Açık mısınız? Teşekkür ederim!     denizli liked this message

Thread: Another mysterious note in ´phonetic´ Turkish

100.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Sep 2016 Wed 03:47 am   Quoting RD525 Thank you so much to the people  who helped to translate the note I was given by a homeless woman in Edinburgh - I have now been given another by her, and wonder if you could help me once again. Although she is a Turkish speaker it seems she canot write Turkish so the notes are written phonetically. The first was also poorly written so dificult to decipher (the best version of the original and the approximate translation that some helpful people came up with, in red below). This one is a bit easier to read, and is more or less as follows (where one word ends and next begins sometimes hard to work out): Sana cioc ial variorum  al bana bir telefon mobil conasaim ciojuclarinda evde var telefon bende ioc eni ujus telefon al bana tesechiur ederim baba ioc. Baba sensin any help much appreciated Robin    Ben bilmiyorum İngilizce o kadar. Çok fakirim. Çocuklarım herşeyim onlar benim için. Benim evim(?) yok İstanbulda. Burada verdiler bir apartman. Oturuyorum çocuklarım ve annem. Kızım o benim için her şey ve iki erkek çocuğum var. Babam öldü 12 sene evvel. Çok hastayım. 3 ameliyat var benim ve bunun için ben anlatamıyorum. Kızım ameliyat oldu ve ben onun için yaşıyorum. Seni çok sevdim tıpkı bebek/baba. Sana çok teşekkürler. Seni çok sevdim.    I do not know much English . Very poor. My kids, they are everything for me . My partner gave much to me  . .  in Istanbul. They gave an apartment here . I´m with my children and my mother. My daughter and two boys everything for me? ...... my father died. Married for 12 years . I am so sick . I have had 3 lots of surgery . . . it was sever  . . . for the liver. I do not drink it . I live for her. ............ Thank you very much I loved you like .    Sana cok yalvarıyorum, al bana bir mobil telefon konuşayım. Çocuklarında evde var telefon, bende yok. En Ucuz telefon al bana. Teşekkür ederim. Baba yok. Baba sensin. I beg you a lot, buy me a mobile phone so I can talk. Your (?) kids have phones at home, I dont have one. Buy me the cheapest phone. Thank you. I have no father. You are the father.

Thread: Evlenmene Bak

101.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Sep 2016 Tue 04:58 pm "Evlenmene bak" has a meaning like dont mind anything else, focus on your wedding, go on getting married or try to find an oppurtunity to get married. Edited (9/6/2016) by gokuyum mira 25 and ogrenci3000 liked this message

Thread: Trnaslation of note from homeless (?) woman in Edinburgh

102.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Sep 2016 Thu 08:30 am   Quoting gokuyum     Ben bilmiyorum İngilizce o kadar. Çok fakirim. Çocuklarım herşeyim onlar benim için. Benim evim(?) yok İstanbulda. Burada verdiler bir apartman. Oturuyorum çocuklarım ve annem. Kızım o benim için her şey ve iki erkek çocuğum var. Babam öldü 12 sene evvel. Çok hastayım. 3 ameliyat var benim ve bunun için ben anlatamıyorum. Kızım ameliyat oldu ve ben onun için yaşıyorum. Seni çok sevdim tıpkı bebek/baba. Sana çok teşekkürler. Seni çok sevdim.   I hope I can decipher other parts too I am not very certain about some parts but here is my translation:   I dont know so much English. I am very poor. My children are everything for me. I dont have a house/husband in İstanbul. They gave me an apartment here. I live with my mother and children. My daughter is everything for me and I have two sons. My father died 12 years ago. I am very sick. I had 3 operations and because of that I cant tell. My daughter had an operation and I live for her. I love you a lot like a baby/ your father(?) Thank you very much. I love you a lot.

Thread: Trnaslation of note from homeless (?) woman in Edinburgh

103.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Sep 2016 Thu 08:03 am   Quoting RD525 Gokuyum/ Henry Thanks so much for working that out - when I put your version into google translate (not being a Turkish speaker myself) it at least begins to make a degree of sense.   I know Google translate can produce some surpriging results but what emerges is: I do not know much English . Very poor. Let My kids, they are everything for me . My wife (?) Not in Istanbul. They gave an apartment here . I´m sitting my children and my mother. My daughter and two boys everything for me? ...... my father died. Married for 12 years . I am so sick . There are 3 surgery in me and I can not tell it. Severe / the surgery was raw . I do not drink it . I live for her. ............ Thank you very much I loved you like . I loved you a lot   Robin

Thread: Trnaslation of note from homeless (?) woman in Edinburgh

104.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Aug 2016 Wed 10:12 am   Quoting RD525 I was given a handwritten note by a woman I see every day begging on an Edinburgh Street - I know her main language is Turkish and believe the note is in turkish - but possibly phonetically spelled. Can anyone hazard a translation?? To add an additional complication, the writing was hard to decipher in places Many thanks  ben bilmiorum engleza ocadar cioc fachirim ciojuclarim erseim onar benimicin benim e?im ioc (?) is tanbulba burda verdilear birapartament oturim ciojullarm (?) veanem  cizim obem miciineresei ve ichi erchieberi ianeciju  arm babam eldu 12 sene evelibenda cioc hastaim 3 ameleat var benim vebun ict (?) chimbe anatamiorum chitim ameleat oldu beano iciimasiorum  seni cioc sevdim tipchibabaghe sana cioc tesechirluear servi cioc sevdim   Ben bilmiyorum İngilizce o kadar. Çok fakirim. Çocuklarım herşeyim onlar benim için. Benim evim(?) yok İstanbulda. Burada verdiler bir apartman. Oturuyorum çocuklarım ve annem. Kızım o benim için her şey ve iki erkek çocuğum var. Babam öldü 12 sene evvel. Çok hastayım. 3 ameliyat var benim ve bunun için ben anlatamıyorum. Kızım ameliyat oldu ve ben onun için yaşıyorum. Seni çok sevdim tıpkı bebek/baba. Sana çok teşekkürler. Seni çok sevdim.   I hope I can decipher other parts too Edited (8/31/2016) by gokuyum Edited (8/31/2016) by gokuyum Edited (9/1/2016) by gokuyum Edited (9/1/2016) by gokuyum

Thread: T-E

105.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Aug 2016 Sat 12:30 am   Quoting og2009 1- Hakimiyet, kayıtsız şartsız milletindir. 2- Hayatta en hakiki mürşit ilimdir.   2- The truest teacher in life is science.   og2009 liked this message

Thread: The Translation Lounge

106.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Aug 2016 Tue 08:48 pm   Quoting Napóleon Hi all, I was trying to translate this sentence but I could not. can someone help?     Amerikalıların ülkelerini 20 milyon dolara satın almasından hoşlanmayan Filipinlilerle savaşırken bile daha çok adam kaybedildi. More people died when Philippinos -who didnt like that Americans bought their country for 20 million dollars - fought against America.

Thread: Teachers in Turkey

107.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jul 2016 Tue 08:16 pm   Quoting scalpel - - Still in one piece ☺   Surviving too trip, slavica, Henry and JNQ liked this message

Thread: MUŞ GİBİ

108.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2016 Sun 09:08 am   Quoting aurum Merhaba! Hello friends. I have a question about -muş gibi types of sentences. I see this structure a lot but I am not sure how exactly I would translate it or use it. Have a look at an example: ´Biraz zaman kazansın diye düşünüyormuş gibi yaptım.´ Any info is welcome. I hope I can get a detailed explanation though. Thank you! I acted as if I was thinking to let him gain some time.   Edited (7/24/2016) by gokuyum

Thread: MUŞ GİBİ

109.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2016 Sun 09:06 am   Quoting aurum Merhaba! Hello friends. I have a question about -muş gibi types of sentences. I see this structure a lot but I am not sure how exactly I would translate it or use it. Have a look at an example: ´Biraz zaman kazansın diye düşünüyormuş gibi yaptım.´ Any info is welcome. I hope I can get a detailed explanation though. Thank you!   You should translate it as "as if"  harp00n liked this message

Thread: olması and olmasın

110.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2016 Sun 08:51 am   Quoting boldbni Quoting gokuyum   There is "olması" in Turkish. Literally it means "his/her/its being" ex: Notlarının kötü olması senin suçun. Literal translation: Your grades´ being bad is your fault. Normal translation: It is your fault that your grades are bad.   ol - ma - sı -ma suffix doesnt make verb negative here because this -ma is another suffix which makes verbs function like a noun. That way an action can be owned in Turkish with the help of other suffixes. -ma suffix doesnt make verb negative here because this -ma is another suffix which makes verbs function like a noun. so you need to deduce from the context if it needs to be functioning like a noun right?  olmasin = negative, olmamiz = positive again.. How can we find out the difference easily?   and what would be the negative form of olması? olmaması ?     Correct. Ol - ma - ma -sı  ol-  is verb root first  -ma makes the verb founction like a noun second - ma makes it negative - sı is possessive suffix

Thread: olması and olmasın

111.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2016 Sun 08:47 am   Quoting boldbni Thanks for your answers. But with ol-ma-sin, sin is the ´you´ suffix ol-ma-si, si = third person.. but why is ma negative at the ´you´ suffix and not with the third person suffix   -sın is not ´ you ´ suffix here, actually it is third person singular "he/she/it" suffix. Why? Because you dont use any suffix for "you" when you give a command to ´you´ like in English. You only use verb root to give a command to ´you´  come/ gel, go/git. But when you give a command to a third person you use -sın suffix or its variants: Gelsin means "let him/her/it come" Olsun means "let him/her/it be"   You use -sın suffix for ´you´ in tenses except simple past tense and you dont use any suffix for he/she/it in tenses.   Gelirsin : you come.                     Gelir: he comes geliyorsun: you are coming.          Geliyor: he is coming geleceksin: you will come.             Gelecek: he will come geldin: you came.                         Geldi: he came gelmişsin:you had come.               Gelmiş: he had come. Edited (7/24/2016) by gokuyum Edited (7/24/2016) by gokuyum Edited (7/24/2016) by gokuyum

Thread: olması and olmasın

112.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Jul 2016 Thu 03:09 am   Quoting Juafin     I never heard "olması". There isn´t in Turkish. It is like this; Ol-mak = To be = Verb / Fiil  Olsun = Positive and means "He/She/It be!" It´s a Imperatives. Think like; "Be doctor!"="Doktor ol!" I said you this. Bu How will say it to he/she/it. like this "Be doctor!"="Doktor olsun!" I said to him/her/it. I can´t speak English very well sorry. :/ But negative; Ol-masın = "Don´t be!" for He She It   Do you understand me There is "olması" in Turkish. Literally it means "his/her/its being" ex: Notlarının kötü olması senin suçun. Literal translation: Your grades´ being bad is your fault. Normal translation: It is your fault that your grades are bad.   ol - ma - sı -ma suffix doesnt make verb negative here because this -ma is another suffix which makes verbs function like a noun. That way an action can be owned in Turkish with the help of other suffixes. Edited (7/21/2016) by gokuyum Edited (7/21/2016) by gokuyum Leo S and boldbni liked this message

Thread: Turkish to English

113.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Jul 2016 Wed 10:11 pm   Quoting Leo S ´Sende papaz büyüsü var´   You have priest curse or you are cursed by a priest. It is some kind of a strong curse which is believed done by a priest.    Edited (7/20/2016) by gokuyum Edited (7/20/2016) by gokuyum

Thread: Quick help please

114.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Jul 2016 Thu 11:04 pm   Quoting PeterE What does this mean, is it Turkish:   "Yeni sayfa hem be tertemiz"   /Peter   A so clean new page

Thread: How to improve turkish pre/intermediate level turkish ??

115.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Jul 2016 Wed 02:23 pm   Quoting Ralph_sweden Hello All  //  Mehaba hepiniz   I newly found this web page and find it useful, I have been studuing turkish by myself soon 2 years, but feel that I need to get some advice from Forum readers.   Any useful ideas how to improve my pre/intermediate turkish language skills to be more fluent? It would be even great to have some contact person of native speaking turkish person to be able to talk / practise prononciation or get mistakes corrected online. If anyone interested to keep in touch and even get for instance swedish or finnish language in exchange for turkish can find my similar nick on Skype.   Anyhow I am looking forward to get other ideas how to improve turkish language skills which are mostly built up by - vocabulary reading, listening audio books, watching turkish online web news, grammatics for instance, I have originally turkish roots which is an advantage but wish to be able to talk or communicate with turkish native persons when visiting Turkey.   Many thanks // Kolay gelsin If I were you, I would check the site and posts throughly. There are so many information and links that can help you.

Thread: I need to translate these verbally. Many thanks

116.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Jul 2016 Wed 02:19 pm   Quoting GozenYonel This plan has been put together for Alan to help him progress towards the thing that are important to him   How I communicate and make decisions (and how to support me) Nasıl iletişim kuruyorum ve kararlar alıyorum ( ve kendimi destekliyorum)   Like and dislikes Sevdiklerim ve sevmediklerim   What people like and admire about me  (my strenths) İnsanlar benim nelerimi seviyor ve hayranlık duyuyor ( güçlü yönlerim ) How best to support me Kendimi en iyi nasıl desteklerim?     Special Educational Needs Özel eğitim ihtiyaçlarım.             Edited (7/13/2016) by gokuyum

Thread: Güldalım Kızım

117.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Jul 2016 Tue 11:06 pm   Quoting amila_b Serin sessiz esen şimal rüzgarı Ne o bugün yoksa esmiyor musun Gözümün nuru canımsın benim Büyüdün de şimdi gidiyor musun What´s that? Wont you blow today o north wind - who always blows cool and quietly -. You are the light of my eye, my soul. So you have grown and now you are going? Mutluluğa doğru uç güzel kızım Dallarıma defne ol güzel kızım Allaha emanet git güle güle Güldalıma kon da gül güzel kızım Fly to happiness my beautiful girl. Be a daphne on my branches. May God be your guardian and good bye. Settle on my rose branch and laugh my beautiful girl. Ne çabuk büyüdün seneler geçti Daha doya doya koklamadım ki Gideceksin diye kalbim kahretti Büyüdün de şimdi gidiyor musun How quickly you have grown. Years passed. I havent yet smelled (you) as much as I want. My heart has suffered so much because you will go. So you have grown and now you are going?       Edited (7/5/2016) by gokuyum Edited (7/5/2016) by gokuyum

Thread: dert cekmeye gidiyorum

118.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Jul 2016 Tue 10:32 pm   Quoting beyazsehirli Thank you   That "daha" in "daha bu genc" confused me. I didn´t know "daha" is used in this way. "Daha bu genç yaşımızda" literally can be translated like this: still in this young age of ours.   Edited (7/5/2016) by gokuyum

Thread: T -> E: kendi varolmaları gereken?

119.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Jul 2016 Tue 10:30 pm   Quoting beyazsehirli What does "kendi varolmaları gereken" mean?   something requiring its own existence? Yes. But to be certain, write the full sentence.   Edited (7/5/2016) by gokuyum

Thread: dert cekmeye gidiyorum

120.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Jul 2016 Mon 07:04 pm   Quoting beyazsehirli I got the lyrics on the net. I hope they are correct Bu çileler neden bize Hakkımız yok mu sevmeye  Benzetildik bir deliye Daha bu genç yaşımızda Why are those troubles? Dont we have a right to love? We are likened to a crazy person when we are still so young.   Sormayın bana hey dostlar Ben nereye gidiyorum Felek süründürdü beni Dert çekmeye gidiyorum Dont ask me o friends where I go. Fate made me miserable, I go to suffer. Çeşme gibi gözyaşımız Dertler krallık tacımız Böyle ağardı saçımız Daha bu genç yaşımızda Our tears are like a fountain. Troubles are our crown. Our hair whitened when we are still so young. ABugüne kadar gülmeyen Mutluluk nedir bilmeyen Tanrıdan ölüm dileyen Olduk bu genç yaşımızda We became a person who havent laughed, who dont know what happiness is, who wish death from God when we are still so young. Kim yarattı beni böyle Kimse bilmez dertlerimi Köle yaptı kader beni Dert çekmeye gidiyorum Who created me this way? Nobody knows my troubles. Fate made me a slave. I go to suffer.       Edited (7/4/2016) by gokuyum Edited (7/4/2016) by gokuyum

Thread: Turkish to english please!! :*

121.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Jul 2016 Mon 06:49 pm   Quoting Lolso Yazdiklari dogrumu?     Babam lütfen üstüne gitme. Tek istediği sözünün dinlenmesi ve kendisine saygı duyulması    Thank youuu!   Dont put presure on my father. He only wants his words to be listened to and to be respected.

Thread: Turkish to english 1 sentence!

122.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Jul 2016 Mon 06:45 pm   Quoting Lolso Sagol yavrum. Bana inan. Sozunu tutacagim ve de seni mahcup etmeyecegim.   Thank you!!      Thank you dear. Believe me I will keep my promise and I wont disappoint you.

Thread: diye

123.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jun 2016 Mon 10:12 am   Quoting Laszorya Hi guys,   I´m learning Turkish and would really appreciate some help with the word "diye". I think I understand it when it is used in most contexts but I have encountered a use recently which has really thrown me.   Bayan rahatsız olmasın diye boş koltuğa oturmayan adam.  The man who doesnt sit in empty seat not to make the woman uncomfortable. Can anyone explain what function the word diye is serving here?   Thank-you in advance.     Edited (6/27/2016) by gokuyum

Thread: Turkish to english 1 sentence!

124.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jun 2016 Sat 10:07 pm   Quoting denizli     Good point, it is plural. But that is not correct English Grammer (I don´t know why???) You could say: ...tell these things... I hate English grammar and I am not happy with Turkish grammar too

Thread: T-E, ONLY 2 sentences!

125.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jun 2016 Sat 09:52 pm   Quoting Calikusu Hello friends,   Please help me with this urgent translation... For a business form, I have two sentences to be translated but in a formal way; 1. İş bu sözleşme karşılıklı onaylandığı takdirde ancak ........ tarafından feshedilebilir. This contract can only be cancelled by.......... when it is approved by the both sides. 2. Ödeme şekli ürün tesliminde peşin veya 90 günlük çek için geçerli fiyattır.  The payment (price) is valid for cash on delivery or for the check valid 90 days.   Thank you in advance!

Thread: Turkish to english plzz :)

126.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jun 2016 Sat 09:42 pm   Quoting Lolso Some sentences I need translated , thanks     Istersen yapma ucumuz beraber yapari Dont do it if you dont want. We can do it three of us together.   Daha bizde dus alacagiz We will get a shower too    Biz bugün ki program seninle olmak (?) Incomplete sentence.   Ya hem içtik hem gözüme sabun kaçırdım We drank and I got soap bubble in my eyes.    Yalnız onları bir almaya gelir misin Would you come to take them?

Thread: Turkish to english 1 sentence!

127.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jun 2016 Sat 09:33 pm   Quoting denizli You can also tell this these to your girl friend.

Thread: Turkish to english 1 sentence!

128.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jun 2016 Sat 09:33 pm   Quoting denizli You can also tell this these to your girl friend.     Dana Tarkan liked this message

Thread: e to t my attempt!!

129.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jun 2016 Sat 09:31 pm   Quoting Polyglot Maalesef Ben ilgi yok. Unfortunately I´m not interested. Thank you Maalesef ilgilenmiyorum.   Edited (6/27/2016) by gokuyum denizli liked this message

Thread: Turkish text book

130.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Mar 2016 Wed 04:48 pm Here is a Turkish text book for second graders in Turkey. It can be very helpful for you to learn Turkish. There are simple texts in it and second half of the book is a study book with questions. Also you can find other Turkish textbooks too if you explore the site. http://www.eba.gov.tr/ekitapdetay/2878           MoustacheFan, Kelebek84, Kelebek84, Henry, harp00n and denizli liked this message

Thread: Please translate from Turkish into English

131.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Feb 2016 Mon 03:07 am   Quoting aruwin Can someone translate this poem please?   Gözlerimi nasıl bir sihir etti felek? Göz yaşlarımı kan eğledi. Ağlayışımı arttırdı felek. Aslanlar bile kahrımın pençesinde titrer iken,  beni bir gözlere ahuya aciz kıldı felek.    What kind of a sorcery did fate to me? It turned my tears into blood. It increased my crying. When even lions were trembling in the claw of my rage, fate made me powerless against an gazelle eyed (woman) Edited (2/8/2016) by gokuyum Edited (2/8/2016) by gokuyum aruwin liked this message

Thread: Is this coloquialism?

132.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Feb 2016 Mon 02:39 am "yapamadığını düşünen" means "(a person/thing) which/who thinks that he/she/it cannot do (something)."   How can a thing think?  Edited (2/8/2016) by gokuyum

Thread: T2E, just one sentence

133.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Nov 2015 Thu 06:47 pm   Quoting aruwin Hello, can someone please translate this into English? Hünkarım, Rodos çok büyük bir ada çok da iyi muhafaza edilen bir ada. Denizde donanmamız elbet güçlü olacak ama savaşı bize lahamcılar ve hendekçiler kazandırır. Kalenin etrafı derin hendeklerle çevrili.   My Lord, Rodos is a very big island and it is well-guarded. Of course our navy must be strong but the diggers will make us win the war. The castle is surrounded by ditches. aruwin liked this message

Thread: e- t, please

134.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Nov 2015 Thu 06:41 pm Bunun tümü ne kadar sürecek? Leylak111 and harp00n liked this message

Thread: Veliaht sancağından alınmasından sonra...

135.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Sep 2015 Tue 02:48 am   Quoting sufler Could you guys help me on this one?   "Başka bir görüşe göre de Mahidevran Sultan´un Şehzade Mustafa´nın Veliaht sancağından alınmasından sonra Şehzade Mehmed´in Veliaht sancağına atanmasını kaldıramamış ve Barbaros Hayrettin Paşa´ya haber vererek genç şehzadenin haremine güzel ama hastalıklı bir cariye sokmasını emretmiştir."   According to one more theory... and the last part is about stinging someone with a knife, right? But I can´t actually find the subject in this sentence     According to another view, Mahidevran Sultan couldnt accept the appointment of Prince Mehmed to the state of the heir after the removal of Prince Mustafa and she wanted Barbaros Hayrettin Pasha to place a beautiful but diseased female slave to the harem of the prince.

Thread: Difference between Kötü and kötüdur?

136.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Sep 2015 Tue 02:18 am   Quoting EmineNur I can be wrong but for me it´s : O kötü = He is nasty O kötüdür = He "must" be nasty Yunus evde = Yunus is at home Yunus evdedir = Yunus "must" be at home But wait, because I´m not a native speacker This is - dir suffix. And it can take many forms like dır/dir/dur/dür/tir/tır/tur/tür   It has the function of am/is/are in Turkish. But we dont always use it. "O güzel" and "O güzeldir" means the same thing. We also use this suffix to express a guess. Then "O güzleldir" gains a new meaning. It is "I guess she is beautiful" So you can ask me how you will understand if it is a guess or not. You can understand it reading the whole dialogue or easy way is because we dont use it like am/is/are most of the time, there is a big chance of it being a guess.   Edited (9/22/2015) by gokuyum Moha-ios and Dana Tarkan liked this message

Thread: T2E please (+my try)

137.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Sep 2015 Mon 01:17 am Wow nice fight Jen is only my friend by the way

Thread: Translate Turkish Conversation

138.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Sep 2015 Mon 01:07 am   Quoting krouk Thanks for the replies!   Also, to my knowledge, AMK is a common slang in Turkish.   Does it mean like "F*ck you" or it means "I want to F*ck you? (sorry for the F word...) Or is the meaning entirely different?   Also I am wondering what "Yooogghhh" means... (probably a slang?)   Thanks!   AMK means fuck it.

Thread: T2E please

139.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Sep 2015 Mon 01:04 am   Quoting JNQ İstihdam sorunu olduğu kadar nitelikli mezun sorunu da vardır. Aslında bütün sorunların temeli eğitim politikamızdır. Okumasak da olur yani.   There is employment problem as much as qualified graduate problem. Actually the source of all problems is our education policy. So it is okay not to study at all.

Thread: help translate turkish to english please :)

140.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Sep 2015 Mon 12:31 am   Quoting ial72 Allah birdir Peygamber hak  Rabbül alemindir mutlak  Senlik benlik nedir bırak  Söyleyim geldi sırası Allah is one, prophet is right Lord of the universes is absolute. What is ego? Leave it aside. Let me tell, it is the time. Kürt´ü Türk´ü ne Çerkez´i  Hep Adem´in oğlu kızı  Beraberce şehit gazi  Yanlış var mı ve neresi Kurd, Turk, Caucassian They are all the sons and daughters of Adam. Alltogether they are martyrs and woundeds Is there a mistake, where? Kur´an´a bak İncil´e bak  Dört kitabın dördü de hak  Hakir görüp ırk ayırmak  Hakikatte yüz karası Look at Quran and look at Gospel All the four books are right. To belittle and to be racist Really is a shame Bin bir ismin birinden tut  Senlik benlik nedir sil at  Tuttuğun yola doğru git  Yoldan çıkıp olma asi Hold on to one of the thousand and one names (of Allah) What is ego? Erase it. Go straight on the way you go Dont leave the road and be a rebel Yezit nedir, ne kızılbaş  Değil miyiz hep bir kardaş  Bizi yakar bizim ataş  Söndürmektir tek çaresi Who is Yezid and who is Kızılbaş? Arent we all brothers? Our fire burns us Only solution is to extinguish it. Kimi ne çeker dilinden  Hem belinden hem elinden  Hayır ve şer emelinden  Hakikat bunun burası Some suffers because of his tongue Also because of his waist and his hands Because of his good and bad deeds This is truth. Şu alemi yaratan bir  O´dur külli şeye kadir  Alevi sünnilik nedir  Menfaattir varvarası Creator of this universe is one He is powerful enough to do anything What is Alevism and what is Sunnism? The result of all is profits Cümle canlı hep topraktan  Var olmuştur emir hak´tan  Rahmet dile sen Allah´tan  Tükenmez rahmet deryası All living beings are made of dirt It is the command of Allah Ask mercy from Allah The sea of mercy is never exhausted. Veysel sapma sağa sola  Sen Allah´tan birlik dile  İkilikten gelir bela  Dava insanlık davası... Veysel dont turn to right or left Wish union from God Trouble comes from duality The struggle is the struggle of humanity.     Edited (9/21/2015) by gokuyum Edited (9/21/2015) by gokuyum Edited (9/21/2015) by gokuyum ial72 liked this message

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141.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Sep 2015 Fri 09:19 pm   Quoting JNQ     Maybe ´surrender your weapons´ or ´put down your weapons´. Never surrender

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142.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Sep 2015 Wed 09:18 pm You can click my links

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143.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Aug 2015 Fri 02:42 pm   Quoting JNQ Obviously to Ginger it does... Dear Ginger, if there are a 100 ways to slaughter an animal, then there are a 100 ways animals are slaughtered in Turkey. Also fortunately (at least for me) there is bacon and booze everywhere. It´s a free country.     I dont think bacons are made of pigs here   harp00n and JNQ liked this message

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144.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Aug 2015 Fri 02:41 pm   Quoting Gingerganj Hello I was wondering if all food in Turkey is 100% halal?  Do they slaughter the animals islamically? Do they recite besmele (bismillah) before slaughter? Also, do they hand-slaughter or machine-slaughter the chickens?  I would appreciate any help...  Thanks    I dont know if everyone slaughter the animals Islamically but you can be sure that you can not easily find any product including pig meat or fat.  MehmetK liked this message

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145.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Aug 2015 Sun 12:38 pm   Quoting raptorn33 Someone? Lütfen     Hi! Could someone please help me translate this?         - Iyi o zaman konuşalım sonrasında ama size yapışmış gibi - Kız sinir olacak - Kiz daha yeni giriyor - Peki o zaman işiniz bitince - Bi yaz sen bana -Ne durumdasin - Sacımı kurutuyorum Okay then. Lets talk after it. But it seems he/she/it is sticked to you. The giirl will be annoyed The girl is coming in just now. Okay then. After you finish. Write to me. How are you doing? I am drying my hair. Thank you!

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146.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Aug 2015 Sun 12:32 pm   Quoting Ash123 Vaktiyle ne için dua etdiysem ben onunla hep imtihan edildim...   I have always been tested with what I prayed for

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147.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jul 2015 Thu 10:28 pm   Quoting elenagabriela Evet aynen öyle   Good I appreciate your culture

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148.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jul 2015 Thu 08:05 pm   Quoting peyote Sigara içer misiniz? do you smoke? Hayır, teşekkür ederim, içmiyorum No thank you , I do not smoke Why do you use içmek  which can be used for drinking ,eating etc  instead of using the negative of sigara or why not answer.... I do not take also if I translate the question do you smoke  using içer it would be defined as do you comprise cigarette  which means something different altogether.     to drink: iç(mek) to comprise (içer)mek aorist tense of iç(mek): içer aorist tense of içer(mek): içerir   So there is no possibility of a confusion between them.   If  someone offer you a cigarette, you can say "kullanmıyorum" It means "I dont use". If you are not a smoker you can answer that way. Edited (7/30/2015) by gokuyum Edited (7/30/2015) by gokuyum

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149.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jul 2015 Thu 08:00 pm   Quoting elenagabriela     hahhaha we have smth like that   You say "My ass froze" too? elenagabriela liked this message

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150.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jul 2015 Thu 03:06 pm   Quoting jilee911 I feel so dumb. I still don´t quite get it   Instead of trying to understand grammar, I would start to read simple Turkish texts and try to understand them. I dont really think focusing on learning grammar can help you to learn the language a lot. For example I dont know how to conjugate a verb in Farsi or I dont even know the difference between past and present tense but when I read a simple Farsi text, I can still guess what some sentences mean. I am sure in time my grammar knowledge will increase too. Yep this is my manifesto for the learners. Do as I say Edited (7/30/2015) by gokuyum Edited (7/30/2015) by gokuyum elenagabriela and JNQ liked this message

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151.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jul 2015 Thu 02:56 pm   Quoting harp00n     As soon as possible    I dont like that word then I like taking my time Edited (7/30/2015) by gokuyum

Thread: Turkish Learners of English: Vocabulary Translations

152.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jul 2015 Thu 12:37 am   Quoting bschanding I appreciate your taking the time to offer your thoughts. My suspicion was that the students lacked a variety of words that might also be used in place of situation. So I´ll now look at each of these examples in my essays and see whether other word choices might be more appropriate. Another word I found students using a lot was point. I think in most cases the students are referring to an idea presented (as in "one point to support an argument"), so perhaps in English there isn´t really another word to use. Would you agree? What word would you use in Turkish for point in a phrase like "this is a good point"? The last one is the word subject. I think words like topic, area, and maybe issue and matter would be good synonyms for subject, so maybe the students use subject because they´ve learned it well and the others they are less confident about. Is the word subject an "easier" word for Turkish learners of English? Are point and subject the same in Turkish?   I think the cause of the problem is that English is a richer language than modern Turkish. After the purification attempt of old Turkish we discarded a lot of Farsi and Arabic words from our language and we couldnt fill their gap properly. So we use some words in a wider context in Turkish.   Point means "nokta" The name of a punctuation mark (.) If I say "bu önemli bir nokta" It means "it is an important point". In this context "point" means another thing. I would say "husus". "Bu önemli bir husus". But husus is an Arabic word. And I am not sure if youngers know this word anymore.   Konu and nokta dont look similar to me but maybe someone can use one for other   This point is very important. This subject is very important.         Edited (7/30/2015) by gokuyum Edited (7/30/2015) by gokuyum denizli liked this message

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153.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jul 2015 Wed 11:54 pm   Quoting bschanding Thanks. So then dava or olgu might be considered somewhat less formal, or not suitable for an academic text?   No I dont think so. Actually I would use them. Using  "situation" (durum) in a wider context makes me think the lack of vocabulary.   When you say "in this case", it has a similar meaning for me with "in this situation" (bu durumda).  But if you use "case" as a term of law, then instead of "durum" I would use "dava." (bu dava)   Olgu means "fact". Maybe it is possible to say "this situation" instead of  "this fact" Event means "olay". It can be said "this situation" instead of "this event" Edited (7/29/2015) by gokuyum Edited (7/30/2015) by gokuyum

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154.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jul 2015 Wed 11:28 pm   Quoting bschanding Hello, I´m currently studying the writing of students from Turkey who are learning English. I hoped a Turkish speaker could help me with a few questions about some particular words my students used in English. I wanted to know mainly if there is a reason these words are so frequent (for example, maybe because they use these words a lot in Turkish). Here is one of these words: * situation: I looked this up and it looks as if "durum" is the main translation for "situation". Would a Turkish speaker use "situation" also for words like "dava" and "olay", or would they likely choose a something else? In short, why would this be a preferable choice over words like "event", "context", "case", etc.? Students especially used it in the phrase "this situation".             Yep it is very possible. I think using "bu durum" or "bu durumda" is popular in academical texts here. It seems "durum" has a wider meaning in Turkish.    Edited (7/29/2015) by gokuyum

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155.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jul 2015 Wed 11:15 pm What does ASAP mean?

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156.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jul 2015 Wed 11:15 pm What does ASAP mean?

Thread: can someone please translate this into Turkish - tessekuler

157.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jul 2015 Wed 07:29 pm   Quoting JNQ   No, they invented wine for this.     Why do you think so?

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158.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jul 2015 Wed 04:32 pm   Quoting peyote the joke is.... if you drink raki ( which is predominately only a drink that turkish people drink ) it will turn your behaviour into the preconceived macho narcissistic qualities of a turkish man   You talk about me?

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159.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jul 2015 Wed 04:27 pm   Quoting raydin Soo for example could i use it like this?    Vurdulu kırdılı oyunlar    Yes you can. Here is the explanation and the source: http://www.turkishlanguage.co.uk/suffix.htm   Turkish Containing Condition Suffix: -li -lı -lü -lu originating from, furnished with, place of, This suffix gives the sense of belonging to something or somewhere. It is used with place names especially to say where one is from. The -li suffix is not separated from a Proper Noun by an apostrophe as other suffixes generally are "Londra´lı" would be incorrect Londralı is correct.  Londralı [Londra-lı] a Londoner Londralılar [Londra-lı-lar] Londoners İstanbullu [İstanbul-lu] an Istanbuli İstanbullular [İstanbul-lu-lar] Istanbulis İngiltereliyim [İngiltere-li-yim] I am from England Bolulu [Bolu-lu] a person from Bolu Çinli [Çin-li] a Chinese Man (Chinaman) This suffix also gives the sense of belonging to something or somewhere, it is widely used with place names especially to say where one is from: İngiltereliyim. I am from England. Mançesterliyim. I come from Manchester. Nerelisiniz? Where (exactly) are you from?   karışık mixed kaşarlı [kaşar-lı] containing hard cheese sucuklu [sucuk-lu] containing Turkish type sausage salamlı [salam-lı] containing salami sosisli [sosis-li] containing sausage Due to vowel harmony -li has three of its four forms   The meaning of furnished with is used to make attributive adjectives tuz salt giving tuzlu salty is a prime example. Should you use sugar in your tea then you might ask for şekerli çay which can mean sweet tea, sugared tea, sugary tea, according to context. sabır patience sabırlı patient kuvvet strength kuvvetli strong yaprak leaf yapraklı leafy çimen lawn çimenli having a lawn yaş age yaşlı old renk colour renkli coloured ses noise sesli noisy yatak bed yataklı furnished with a bed tuz salt tuzlu salty Mehmet sabırlı bir adamdır. Mehmet is a patient man. Ali kuvvetli bir genç. Ali is a strong youth. Bir yapraklı ağaç. A leafy tree. Çimenli bir ev. It is a house with a lawn. Yaşlı bir at. It is an old horse. İçkili bir lokantaya gittik. We went to an alcohol serving bistro. Note: içkili furnished with alcoholic drinks [ie: Alcoholic drinks are served] Plural nouns are formed by adding the -ler/-lar plural suffix to an adjective: sabırlılar the patient ones kuvvetliler the strong ones yaşlılar the aged Edited (7/29/2015) by gokuyum peyote and raydin liked this message

Thread: please check my turkish.

160.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jul 2015 Wed 04:23 pm   Quoting GozenYonel Bu aktivitelere katılmak isterseniz veya tercumesi icin yardim isterseniz, Gozgul hanımı saat  10.00 - 5.30 da  Çarşamba veya Cuma gunleri ............. numaradan araya bilirsiniz   Can someone please check my turkish Many thanks araya bilirsiniz  You cant write it seperate. It must be "arayabilirsiniz".   Other than that I see no problem.   GozenYonel liked this message

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161.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jul 2015 Wed 04:19 pm They invented coma long time ago for this problem   Shoreditch Support Group Health, Wellbeing, Care and Supportive Housing  harp00n liked this message

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162.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jul 2015 Tue 10:19 pm   Quoting peyote     a joke can be a parody or perception of someones actions or regarding a situation. do not take seriously it does not pertain to everyone it is only a joke Jokes always have some truth in them When Turks are drunk, it is known that they can be agressive but the problem is the generalization

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163.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jul 2015 Tue 10:12 pm   Quoting anakehribar     Oh my God, this is so untrue haha!!!   Yeah that is why it is sarcasm

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164.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jul 2015 Tue 08:39 pm   Quoting peyote     it is based on psychological cultures of turkish men. Very illuminating   anakehribar liked this message

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165.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jul 2015 Tue 08:25 pm Here is the link of Big Turkish Slang Dictionary (pdf file) https://www.google.com.tr/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCsQFjACahUKEwiI1_T4qv7GAhWG83IKHadmCMc&url=http%3A%2F%2Fm.friendfeed-media.com%2F88329c3e4d25f7dd75ea9c6c945f7fc5d89ccd3d&ei=0bm3VciqH4bnywOnzaG4DA&usg=AFQjCNHK7TqKlC5T2sS4CzxGosjBVh7WnA&sig2=PlC7bDUtXReWXN-tJ3q_WQ

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166.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jul 2015 Tue 08:23 pm   Quoting kdim Hi everybody, I need a little help from someone who speaks native Turkish.  I´m looking for words/expressions/sayings/proverbs   which are related to ice, cold, freeze, coolnees, freshness etc.  Preferably funny ones or cool ones that young people would use, even slang words etc.  If you can think of anything like that please share, I will appreciate it very much!  Thanks!   I know one: götü donmak (slang) Here is a link to search in proverbs and idioms. I searched soğuk for you. http://tdk.gov.tr/index.php?option=com_atasozleri&view=atasozleri&kategoriget=atalst&kelimeget=so%C4%9Fuk&hngget=tam Edited (7/28/2015) by gokuyum elenagabriela liked this message

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167.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jul 2015 Tue 06:32 pm https://itunes.apple.com/tr/album/deli-yurek-ii-turkuler-dizi/id908341828 alameda liked this message

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168.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jul 2015 Tue 05:55 pm How can someone fart a sentence? I dont know maybe someone can

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169.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jul 2015 Mon 08:00 pm   Quoting Filious Yaz geldi!  Gel ve etkinliğimizde bize katıl!  Your translation is correct but it have has little mistakes.   We all have little mistakes The disadvantages of being human   GozenYonel liked this message

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170.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jul 2015 Mon 07:56 pm   Quoting harp00n     Yazdığınız cümleye bakacak olursak, imla kuralları hakkındaki bilginiz; dehşet verici...   İmlacı geldi.... İmlalarım  vaaarr

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171.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jul 2015 Mon 07:52 pm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgKJ2mcIQSo   Yusuf; u kaybettim Kenan ilinde   I lost Yusuf in the land of Canaan Yusuf bulunur, Kenan bulunmaz  Yusuf is found but Canaan isn´t   Bu aklı fikr ile Leyla bulunmaz  With this reasoning Leila isnt found   Bu ne yaredir ki çare bulunmaz  Such a wound is this! A remedy isnt found. Aşkın pazarında canlar satılır  Souls are sold in the bazaar of love Satarım canımı alan bulunmaz  I sell my soul, but a buyer isn´t found. Yunus öldüdeyu selan verirler  They perform salah because Yunus has died. Ölen beden imiş, aşıklar ölmez  The dead is the body, lovers don´t die. alameda, mira 25 and JNQ liked this message

Thread: Difference between birkaç and birtakım

172.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Jul 2015 Mon 02:15 pm   Quoting matdamon Hi everyone,   I have the feeling birkaç and birtakım mean the same thing : several, a couple of...   The only difference seems to lie in their use :    birkaç + singular birtakım + plural   Am I right or is there another difference between the two ?   birkaç means a few birtakım means some, some kind of matdamon liked this message

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173.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Jul 2015 Mon 02:12 pm   Quoting matdamon Herkese merhaba,   Şu cümlede "İşi gücü, yiyecek aşırmak..." işi gücü  ne demek ? Sözlüğe baktım ama hiçbir anlamlı şey bulmadım.   Teşekkürler    İşi gücü can be translated as "all he does" All he does is stealing food. A more literal translation would be like this: All his job is to steal food. matdamon liked this message

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174.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jul 2015 Sun 04:59 am   Quoting pekka Hello, in this sentence "beslenmenin sağlıklı bir hayatın önemli bir şartı olması". I don´t understant the "beslenmenin" and "olması" can someone explain it    thanks   Nutrition´s being an improtant condition of a healthy life is a fact. I completed the sentence with "is a fact" This is how we form the same sentence below in English: It is a fact that nutrition is an important condition of a healthy life.   pekka liked this message

Thread: I´m about to visit Turkey and looking for advices :)

175.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Jul 2015 Fri 11:54 am   Quoting JNQ     I corrected it. Happy now?   Yeah, I am

Thread: I´m about to visit Turkey and looking for advices :)

176.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Jul 2015 Fri 01:58 am   Quoting JNQ Turkey is an extremely dangerous country. It´s full of deceivingly innocent looking bakeries and pastanesis that try to lure you in with overwhelming smells of honey sirup and fresh baked bread that´s softer than anywhere in France, after which you will feel helplessly overcome by the need to eat kadayıf, baklava, pide and God (sorry, Allah) knows what foods from heaven all week that you might as well smear on your thighs directly. You are in complete danger to return home plus 10 pounds, plus 5 shades healthy tan and blushes, not to mention the danger of getting your heart stolen by a handsome Ottoman or any of the hundreds of people trying to make life good for you in Turkey. You dont need to speak any Turkish for that. I mean, I´ve been there five times, take it from me. Go anywhere else in the world. Turkey is a dangerous place.  Who are these handsome Ottomans? I have never seen them

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177.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2015 Thu 09:27 am   Quoting pekka Merhaba arkadaşlar, in this sentence "yayınlanmaya başlayan Acun Medya tarafından yapılan yetenek yarışması." acun medya is placed between başlayan and yapılan and I am confused of this situation and the meaning of the sentence can someone explain it? thanks   "yayınlanmaya başlayan" (yetenek yarışması )                 and "Acun medya tarafından yapılan" (yetenek yarışması )   The underlined words form an adjective verb group.  Purple words are verbs that qualify "yetenek yarışması". Here is a simple explanation to show you how they are adjective verbs :   Which talent compitition? The one that started to be broadcated Which talent compitition? The one that is produced by Acun media.     Edited (7/16/2015) by gokuyum Edited (7/16/2015) by gokuyum Edited (7/16/2015) by gokuyum pekka liked this message

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178.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2015 Thu 09:16 am   Quoting Aylin... What does it means when a boyfriend writes "Aman sabahlar Olmasın Together" is it good or bad     It means to stay awake all night and not to want it to be morning. That is what I understand. pekka and Aylin... liked this message

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179.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jul 2015 Thu 10:20 pm   Quoting og2009 ZAMAN KAÇAĞI Time Fugitive   Yorgun bir günün ardından akşam olmuş gün batarken neler düşünürsün After a tiring day when it is evening and while sun is setting what do you think? Vakit erken rüzgar gülümsüyor mahalle kahvesine uğruyorsun limonata içiyorsun Time is early, wind is smiling, you are going to the cafe in the neighborhood and you are drinking lemonade. Yabancı değilsin iskambil kağıtlarına birinci cigarası yakıyorsun You are not foreign to playing cards, and you are ligting a Birinci cigarette. Okuldan kaçıyorsun You are running away from school. Kahvede çay içiyorsun dışarda yağmur yağıyor bir hüzün gelip konuyor masana You are drinking tea in the cafe and it is raining outside and a sadness is settling on your table. Bir yüzünü açıyorsun diğer yüzün soruyor  unutulmuş insanlar nerede You are opening one of your faces and other is asking where are all those forgotten people? Kimbilir hangi şehirlerde geziniyorsun hangi gökyüzünü kokluyorsun öpüyorsun Who knows in which cities you are wandering around and which sky are you smelling? Uzak yıldızları denizleri düşünüyorsun bir gemi oluyorsun binip açılıyorsun You are thinking about far away stars and you are becoming a ship and you are getting on and sailing Bir sevgi sözcüğü bir şarkı oluyorsun bu akşam vakti  yalnızlık  kokan hanımelilerine You are becoming a word of affection, a song this evening to the honeysuckles that smell loneliness Evde çay mı  haber mi  verandadan kokusu dağılan  eski saatler mi Is it tea, news or old watches whose smell is coming from veranda in the house? Sokaklarında yürüyen yemenili kızları görüyorsun ellerinde su testileri You are seeing girls with yemeni carrying water jugs in your streets. Bir sofra kuruyorlar mahalleli için mavili kırmızılı morlu düşlerden They are preparing a dinner table made of red and purple dreams for the neighbors. İçinden  hiç yazılmamış aşk şiirleri geçiyor türküler öyküler romanlar I am thinking about love poems, songs, stories, novels that have never been written. Hiç böylesi yazılmamıştır hiç böylesi görülmemiştir yüreğin çarpıyor Such a one has never been written, has never been seen. Your heart beats. Kahvede olmuşsun sokakta olmuşsun evde olmuşsun gözlerinde hep gurbet There is always homesickness in your eyes,  in street, at home, doesnt matter. Senin için bu dünya yaşamı bir gurbettir sonsuza akan garip bir zamandır For you life is a foreign place, a strange time that flows into eternity. Duyguların seni terkediyor zaman seni terkediyor bırakıp kaçıyor başka sevgilere Karlı dağa bakıyorsun kerpiç duvarlardaki saksı çiçekleri arasından kopuk kopuk Gözlerinde kahverengi bir gözyaşı yüreğinde kımıldayan bir sızı anlaşılmayan Oysa şimdi içilecek bir akşam çayı var konuşulacak öyküler var Komşuların anlatacağı  öyküler var Bir demet gül var uzak yaşamlardan kalma Solgun bir gülün üzerine yazılmış öyküler var Geceyi bırakıyorsun anılar denizinde yapayalnız Toprağı sürüyorsun mutluluk tohumları ekiyorsun yeni umutları biçiyorsun Vadide geçmiş yıllardan kalma yorgun bir üzüm bağında asma yapraklarının gölgesinde filiz veriyorsun Konaklanacak bir liman arıyorsun sevgi sözcüğünü düşünüyorsun anneni özlüyorsun Gözlerin yollarda kalıyor gözlerin beşinci  mevsimde kır çiçekleri gibi çırpınıyor Kentin unutulmuş günlerinden çıkıp gelen o yeşil gözlerin neler anlatıyor Evrenin öte yakasındaki  bir kentin sarmaşıklı penceresinden bakan Beyaz kurdeleli bir kıza neler anlatıyor o yeşil hüzünlü gözlerin Neler Geçmiş günlerden bir akşam vakti Spil yamaçlarındaki mavi pançurlu bir evden böyle uzakta ve tek O anlatıyor Islak gözlerinle Sen dinliyorsun (Ö.G.-1988)       Edited (7/9/2015) by gokuyum Edited (7/9/2015) by gokuyum Edited (7/9/2015) by gokuyum Edited (7/9/2015) by gokuyum Edited (7/9/2015) by gokuyum og2009 liked this message

Thread: Bugün Bayram -- Barış Manço

180.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Jul 2015 Sat 05:56 am   Quoting trip Merhabalar! I have always loved the tinkly lead-in of "Bugün Bayram," which I think I first heard while watching "Adam Olacak Çocuk." I came across the full song recently and tried to translate the lyrics. Judging by the melody, I thought it would be a cheerful song, but the lyrics seem to be about missing a mother who is in heaven. Am I misunderstanding? Can you explain the song to me? Is there a specific holiday when deceased mothers are remembered? ... Her zamanki gibi çok teşekkür ederim. İşte çevirim: Sen gittin gideli -- You are gone. Since you´ve been gone, (gittin gideli is an expression. Dont sepearate it) İçimde öyle bir sızı var ki -- Inside me there is such an ache that  Yalnız sen anlarsın -- You alone understand. Sen şimdi uzakta -- Now you are far away. Cennette meleklerle -- In heaven with the angels. Bizi düşler ağlarsın -- You imagine us and weep. Bugün bayram -- Today is a holiday. Erken kalkın çocuklar -- Get up early, children. Giyelim en güzel giysileri -- Let´s put on the nicest clothes. Elimizde taze kır çiçekleri -- In our hands, fresh wildflowers. Üzmeyelim bugün annemizi -- Let´s not upset our mother today. Sen yaz geceleri -- You, are in summer nights. Yıldızlar içinden ara sıra -- You blink your eyes at us Bize göz kırparsın -- Now and then from among the stars. Sen soğuk günlerde -- On cold days, you are the warmest memory Kalbimi ısıtan en sıcak anımsın -- That warms my heart. Bugün bayram -- Today is a holiday. Erken kalkın çocuklar -- Get up early, children. Giyelim en güzel giysileri -- Let´s put on the nicest clothes. Elimizde taze kır çiçekleri -- In our hands, fresh wildflowers. Üzmeyelim bugün annemizi -- Let´s not upset our mother today. Bugün bayram -- Today is a holiday. Çabuk olun çocuklar -- Be quick, children. Annemiz bugün bizi bekler -- Our mother waits for us today. Bayramlarda hüzünlenir melekler -- On holidays, the angels become sad. Gönül alır bu güzel çiçekler -- The heart receives these beautiful flowers. These beautiful flowers please heart(s) ( gönül almak means  On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmSwWQQe54Y On İzlesene: http://www.izlesene.com/video/herkese-iyi-bayramlar-baris-manco-bugun-bayram/7024788     trip liked this message

Thread: Could someone please look over my translation from English to Turkish please?

181.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Jul 2015 Wed 03:49 am   Quoting JNQ Honey, if 82 is your birth year, you ARE the younger generation hahaha   No, younger generation is 18-29

Thread: English -> Turkish

182.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Jul 2015 Wed 03:47 am   Quoting gülfidan Hi Alma of course "Selam! Biz, ilk buluşmamızı bekleyemeyiz. Umuyoruz ki çok sayıda kabak çekirdeği getirirsin. Hoşçakal! "   Instead of using "bekleyemeyiz" here I would use "sabırsızlanıyoruz".  "İlk buluşmamız için sabırsızlanıyoruz."  But I am not the expert

Thread: T2E lutfen

183.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Jul 2015 Wed 03:36 am I hate facebook aphorisms and facebook philosophers too Henry liked this message

Thread: Demirtaş´tan saz sürprizi, ne düşünüyorsun?

184.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 May 2015 Fri 07:35 pm Şu karşı yaylada göç katar katar In that upland they imigrate convoy by convoy Bir yiğidin derdi serinde tüter The trouble of a man smoke on his head. Bu ayrılık bana ölümden beter This seperation is worse for me than death Geçti dost kervanı eyleme beni eyleme beni The caravan of friends has passed away, dont delay me, dont delay me Bu ayrılık bana ölümden beter This seperation is worse for me than death Geçti dost kervanı eyleme beni eyleme beni The caravan of friends has passed away, dont delay me, dont delay me     Şu benim sevdiğim başta oturur The one I love sits down in front Bu güzelin derdi beni bitirir The trouble of that beautiful finishes me Bu ayrılık bize zulüm getirir This seperation will bring cruelty to us Geçti dost kervanı eyleme beni eyleme beni The caravan of friends has passed away, dont delay me, dont delay me Bu ayrılık bize zulüm getirir This seperation will bring cruelty to us Geçti dost kervanı eyleme beni eyleme beni  The caravan of friends has passed away, dont delay me, dont delay me   Pir Sultan Abdalım dağlar aşarım I am Pir Sultan Abdal, I pass over mountains Aşarımda dost diye nere düşerim I pass over but where I go for a friend? Çok ekmeğin yedim helalaşalım I ate lots of bread of you, give your blessings Geçti dost kervanı eyleme beni eyleme beni  The caravan of friends has passed away, dont delay me, dont delay me Çok ekmeğin yedim helalaşalım I ate lots of bread of you, give your blessings Geçti dost kervanı eyleme beni eyleme beni The caravan of friends has passed away, dont delay me, dont delay me Edited (5/29/2015) by gokuyum MehmetK, tunci and JNQ liked this message

Thread: T2E: don´t do it because ...

185.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Apr 2015 Tue 07:43 pm   Quoting beyazsehirli There are 2 sentences which are similar but mean quite different things in English.   1) "Don´t do it, because he says so." This means: "Don´t do it! He says so!"     but there is also: 2) "Don´t do it because he says so." This really means: "Don´t do it just because he orders you to do it."/"Don´t do it even though he says so". It can also mean "Don´t do because he says so, but for some other reason. Do it because you want to ...."   How to translate the second sentence into Turkish? O öyle diyor diye yapma.

Thread: E to T + attempt

186.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Feb 2015 Fri 10:01 pm   Quoting JNQ Did you get the Visa yet? I would say ´Zaten vizen var mı?´  And maybe "Belki ona kızgın olacak." without the "o".     Nope   JNQ liked this message

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187.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Feb 2015 Fri 10:01 pm   Quoting denizli Are these OK?   1. Did you get the Visa yet? Henüz Vizen var mı? Hala vizayı almadın mı?   2. Maybe he will get angry at him. O belki ona kızgın olacak. Belki ona kızar.   3. It was so cold that the schools had to close. O kadar soğuktu ki okullar kapanmalıydı. O kadar soğuktu ki okullar kapanmak zorunda kaldı.     nessah and denizli liked this message

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188.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Feb 2015 Fri 10:26 pm   Quoting JNQ     You can say günde, haftada, yılda, baharda but not yazda? And if you check back, you will see that I did say yazın. You should pay more attention. =))     Lol. Yeah you wrote yazın but you also wrote bu. If you read my post carefully you will see that only bu yaz is acceptable, at least for me. But as a friend I can ignore your mistake if you want

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189.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Feb 2015 Fri 08:48 pm   Quoting JNQ Why not bu yazda?   We never say "yazda". We say "bu yaz" or "yazın". You should study more :=D Edited (2/13/2015) by gokuyum JNQ and denizli liked this message

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190.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Feb 2015 Fri 07:14 pm   Quoting JNQ     You are so harsch. The best is ofcourse the best players, it´s obvious from the context. Why is iyisi not right?   Yep I am harsh. Be aware!   Here is my translation:   Jay Triano bu yaz Pan Amerikan Oyunları kortunda ülkenin en iyisini bekliyor. denizli liked this message

Thread: E to T + Attempt

191.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Feb 2015 Fri 05:35 pm You are all wrong What do you means by "to have the best". You mean "to have the best opponent"? denizli liked this message

Thread: More Fikret Kızılok -- Haberin Var Mi?

192.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Feb 2015 Thu 05:35 pm   Quoting trip Merhabalar! I know you are probably tired of Fikret Kızılok by now, but I can´t help myself. So, here is another of his songs: "Haberin Var Mı?" There are two versions of this song. One has words that were perhaps written by Fikret. The other has words by the poet Ahmed Arif (yes, I have discovered another of Turkey´s famous poets!) and carries the alternate title "Kör Pencere." This version ends with a very swinging 1970s instrumental that seems to be called "Ay Battı." I´ve tried to translate both sets of lyrics. Please correct my mistakes. Unfortunately, the only recording I can find of both versions together is on YouTube. But I will also include a link for an Izlesene video for "Haberin Var Mı" alone.  Both versions together: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zE0Au8GHTY "Haberin Var Mı?": http://www.izlesene.com/video/fikret-kizilok-haberin-var-mi-1974/896431   Haberin Var Mı? -- Do You Have News? Haberin var mı? -- Do you have news? Terk etmedi sevdan beni -- Your passion has not left me. Aç kaldım, susuz kaldım gecelerce -- Night after night, I have remained hungry, I have remained thirsty.  Geceler geceler -- For nights and nights. Yastığımda, düşümde, içimdesin -- On my pillow, in my dreams, you are within me. Bir hain bıçak gibi kalbimdesin -- Like a treacherous knife, you are in my heart. Dermanı yoktur bilirim -- It has no cure, I know. Tütünsüz, uykusuz kaldım -- I have remained without tobacco, without sleep. Terk etmedi sevdan beni -- Your passion has not left me. Aç kaldım, susuz kaldım gecelerce -- Night after night, I have remained hungry, I have remained thirsty. Geceler geceler -- For nights and nights. Yastığımda, düşümde, içimdesin -- On my pillow, in my dreams, you are within me. Bir hain bıçak gibi kalbimdesin -- Like a treacherous knife, you are in my heart. Dermanı yoktur bilirim -- It has no cure, I know. ------------------------ Kör Pencere -- Blind Window Ay Battı -- The Moon Has Set Haberin var mı? -- Do you have news? Taş duvar, demir kapı, kör pencere, -- Stone wall, iron door, blind window. Yastığım, ranzam, zincirim, -- My pillow, my bunk, my chains. Uğruna ölümlere gidip geldiğim --Zulamdaki mahzun resim. --. The sad photo which is in my hiding place, which I have almost died many times for its sake Görüşmecim yeşil soğan göndermiş -- My visitor seems to have sent green onions. Karanfil kokuyor cigaram -- My cigarette smells of cloves. Dağlarına bahar gelmiş memleketimin ... -- To the mountains of my country, spring apparently has come.     trip liked this message

Thread: Yumma Gözün Kör Gibi -- Fikret Kızılok

193.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Feb 2015 Fri 04:28 am   Quoting trip Merhabalar! I am back with another Fikret Kızılok song, but I´m pretty sure I´m in way over my head this time. I suspect this song is filled with idioms, because just when I think I´ve found the definitive meaning for a phrase, I look in the dictionary and find another possibility. You´re going to have to help me here! The Veysel mentioned in this song is the famous poet and minstrel Aşık Veysel Şatıroğlu, I think. Am I right? I know that Fikret got to know Veysel not too many years before the latter died in 1973. From what I have read, Veysel inspired Fikret to leave behind experimental, electronic sounds and go down a more traditional path. This song seems to say that Veysel understood that life is about joy (although I think many of his songs were rather sad, weren´t they?). Veysel´s last name means "son of good spirits," or something of the kind, doesn´t it? And then there is the title of the song: "Don´t Shut Your Eyes as If Your Blind." (Is that right?) It´s interesting that Veysel was in fact blind for most of his life. Işte çevirim: It is not easy to translate. It is not always understandable who is doing what.   Yumma Gözün Kör Gibi -- Don´t Shut Your Eyes as If You´re Blind Kimine at vermiş eştirir gezer -- To some people, he gave a horse. He makes it trot and he wanders Kimine aşk vermiş coşturur gezer   -- To some people, he gave love. He stirs excitement, he wanders Kimine mal vermez koşturur gezer   -- To some, he doesnt give riches. He makes him struggle, he wanders koşturur gezer   -- He makes him struggle koşturur gezer   -- He makes him struggle Sanki bunu zengin etmek zor gibi   -- As if it is difficult To enrich this one Sanki bunu zengin etmek zor gibi   -- As if it is difficult To enrich this one zooooooooor gibi   -- As if it is difficult Bir kısmına yayla vermiş köy vermiş   -- For one portion( to some people), he gave a mountain pasture, a village Bir kısmına büyük büyük pay vermiş   -- For one portion, he gave a huge share Sevdiğine güzellikle boy vermiş   -- For the one who he loves, he gave height and beauty boy vermiş   -- he gave height boy vermiş  -- he gave height Al yanaklar şule verir nur gibi  -- Ruddy cheeks yield a flame, wonderously radiant. Al yanaklar şule verir nur gibi  -- Ruddy cheeks yield a flame, wonderously radiant. nuuuuuuuuur gibi  -- Wonderously radiant. Kimine saz vermiş çalar eğlenir  -- To some people, he gave saz. They play and enjoy themselves. Kimi zevk içinde güler eğlenir  -- Some people laugh in pleasure and enjoy themselves. Veysel gözyaşları siler eğlenir  -- Veysel wipes away the tears and enjoys himself. siler eğlenir  -- He wipes away the tears. siler eğlenir  -- He wipes away the tears. Yeter gayrı yumma gözün kör gibi  -- That´s enough! Don´t shut your eyes as if you´re blind. Yeter gayrı yumma gözün kör gibi  -- That´s enough! Don´t shut your eyes as if you´re blind. köööööööööör gibi  -- As if you´re blind. http://www.izlesene.com/video/fikret-kizilok-yumma-gozun-kor-gibi/5777609     denizli liked this message

Thread: Yumma Gözün Kör Gibi -- Fikret Kızılok

194.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Feb 2015 Fri 04:28 am   Quoting trip Merhabalar! I am back with another Fikret Kızılok song, but I´m pretty sure I´m in way over my head this time. I suspect this song is filled with idioms, because just when I think I´ve found the definitive meaning for a phrase, I look in the dictionary and find another possibility. You´re going to have to help me here! The Veysel mentioned in this song is the famous poet and minstrel Aşık Veysel Şatıroğlu, I think. Am I right? I know that Fikret got to know Veysel not too many years before the latter died in 1973. From what I have read, Veysel inspired Fikret to leave behind experimental, electronic sounds and go down a more traditional path. This song seems to say that Veysel understood that life is about joy (although I think many of his songs were rather sad, weren´t they?). Veysel´s last name means "son of good spirits," or something of the kind, doesn´t it? And then there is the title of the song: "Don´t Shut Your Eyes as If Your Blind." (Is that right?) It´s interesting that Veysel was in fact blind for most of his life. Işte çevirim: It is not easy to translate. It is not always understandable who is doing what.   Yumma Gözün Kör Gibi -- Don´t Shut Your Eyes as If You´re Blind Kimine at vermiş eştirir gezer -- To some people, he gave a horse. He makes it trot and he wanders Kimine aşk vermiş coşturur gezer   -- To some people, he gave love. He stirs excitement, he wanders Kimine mal vermez koşturur gezer   -- To some, he doesnt give riches. He makes him struggle, he wanders koşturur gezer   -- He makes him struggle koşturur gezer   -- He makes him struggle Sanki bunu zengin etmek zor gibi   -- As if it is difficult To enrich this one Sanki bunu zengin etmek zor gibi   -- As if it is difficult To enrich this one zooooooooor gibi   -- As if it is difficult Bir kısmına yayla vermiş köy vermiş   -- For one portion( to some people), he gave a mountain pasture, a village Bir kısmına büyük büyük pay vermiş   -- For one portion, he gave a huge share Sevdiğine güzellikle boy vermiş   -- For the one who he loves, he gave height and beauty boy vermiş   -- he gave height boy vermiş  -- he gave height Al yanaklar şule verir nur gibi  -- Ruddy cheeks yield a flame, wonderously radiant. Al yanaklar şule verir nur gibi  -- Ruddy cheeks yield a flame, wonderously radiant. nuuuuuuuuur gibi  -- Wonderously radiant. Kimine saz vermiş çalar eğlenir  -- To some people, he gave saz. They play and enjoy themselves. Kimi zevk içinde güler eğlenir  -- Some people laugh in pleasure and enjoy themselves. Veysel gözyaşları siler eğlenir  -- Veysel wipes away the tears and enjoys himself. siler eğlenir  -- He wipes away the tears. siler eğlenir  -- He wipes away the tears. Yeter gayrı yumma gözün kör gibi  -- That´s enough! Don´t shut your eyes as if you´re blind. Yeter gayrı yumma gözün kör gibi  -- That´s enough! Don´t shut your eyes as if you´re blind. köööööööööör gibi  -- As if you´re blind. http://www.izlesene.com/video/fikret-kizilok-yumma-gozun-kor-gibi/5777609     trip liked this message

Thread: t2,e

195.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Feb 2015 Fri 03:59 am   Quoting nessah Ben artık hiç gitmeyecek birini istiyorum. Her şeyimi anlatacağım,her şeyini bileceğim birini. Asla hayatım ve kendim ile ilgili yalan söylemeyeceğim birini. Birbirimize yalan söylemeyeceğimiz birini. Hayır illa yanımda olsun demiyorum,telefonda da ağlayabilirim onun yanında. Bu şekilde de yanında olabilirim. Ama yeter ki biri girsin artık hayatıma ve hiç çıkmasın.    I want a person who will never go away, who I can share everything with, who I know everything about, who I will never tell a lie about my life and myself, who will never lie. I dont say that he must be always beside me. I can cry on phone too. I can be beside him that way. No matter who, let one enter into my life and let him never leave. nessah liked this message

Thread: T to E please

196.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Feb 2015 Fri 03:50 am   Quoting stayorgo72 olmazsa hafta başı gelicem   if not, I will come at the beginning of the week.

Thread: T to E please

197.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Feb 2015 Fri 03:48 am   Quoting stayorgo72 üzgünüm bukadar aramama yanit alsaydim yapmazdim   I am sorry. I wouldnt have done it if I would have got any answer to my many calls.

Thread: Question about tenses in turkish

198.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jan 2015 Thu 12:58 am   Quoting Đullie Thanks so much! So there´s not different present tenses in turkish? What you often do and what you are doing at the moment is the same?   There are tenses. But sometimes there is not a very strict seperation between them as in English. Đullie and denizli liked this message

Thread: T to E please

199.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jan 2015 Thu 12:51 am   Quoting stayorgo72 annem bir kaç kez aramaya çalışmış olmayınca bana söyledi. pazar günü herzamanki gibi mantı. yapacak da keşke yavuz da olsa diye hayıflanıyor işlerin çok yoğun değilse ve gelebilirsen çok mutlu olacak My mother tried to call a few times. But after she hadnt succeded she told me. She will cook mantı on monday as usual and she says she wishes Yavuz to be here. If you are not busy and if you can come she will be very happy.   Edited (1/29/2015) by gokuyum Jansay liked this message

Thread: saçımı süpürge ettim

200.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jan 2015 Thu 12:46 am   Quoting Michail Thanks a lot, the mystery just gets bigger... It actually comes from my textbooks and the full sentence reads...   Senin için saçımı süpürge ettim I even used my hair like a broom for you. This is a saying and like metioned above it means "I showed an extraordinary effort to please you".   Jansay liked this message

Thread: T to E

201.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jan 2015 Tue 09:24 pm   Quoting MarioninTurkey     You exist, let him just know that. To learn the truth may shatter his dreams, what is the point of killing the sweet bearded person of his dreams and losing his love?   Varsın doesnt mean "you exist" here. It means "let it/him/her."  Sometimes also it adds the meaning "I dont care" to the sentence.   Varsın gitsin. Let him/her go. (I dont care)   raydin liked this message

Thread: t2e pls

202.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jan 2015 Mon 09:14 pm   Quoting nessah Bir kadının içindeki masum meleği erkek keşfeder ama o meleğin tüm masumluğunu da yok edecek olan yine erkektir   A man discovers the innocent angel inside the woman but he is also the one who will destroy that all innocence. Jansay, ahmet_a1b2 and nessah liked this message

Thread: Someone to translate pls?

203.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jan 2015 Sat 05:36 pm   Quoting * Lamda* Kelimeler her şeyi anlatır.. Ama her şeyi yaşatmaz. Bazen ben bile yabancı olurken kendime sana nasıl anlatırım ki beni! Neşeliyim diyeceğim, belki suratsızlığıma denk geleceksin! Espiriliyim diyeceğim, belki ağlamalarıma denk düşeceksin! Özgürüm diyeceğim, belki tutsaklıklarımda yakalayacaksın beni! Kendimi anlatıpta bir kalıba sığdırmak istemem düşüncelerimdeki beni.. Hani yaşamadan bilemeyeceğin şeyler vardır ya, onlardan biriyim belki.. Bazıları için herhangi biri, Bazılar için vazgeçilmez biri! Düşlediğim kadar insanım, İnsan olduğum kadar hatalı! İşte ben buyum, ben İnsanım!!   Words tell everything but they dont make you live everything. How can I tell myself to you even sometimes I become a stranger to myself. If I say I am cheerful, maybe you will see me when I am angry-looking. If I say I like making jokes, maybe you will catch me when I am crying. If I say I am free, maybe you will find me in my captivities. I dont want to squeeze my thoughts into a certain form by telling myself to you. You know there are somethings that you can never know without living. Maybe I am one of them. An ordinary person for some people and a very important person for others. I am as much human as I imagine and I am as much faulty as I am human. That is me. I am a human. Jansay liked this message

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204.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Jan 2015 Thu 11:38 pm Yeni yıla uyuyarak girenlere benden selamlar. Yalnız değilsiniz KediNero, elenagabriela and harp00n liked this message

Thread: A puzzling sentence

205.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Dec 2014 Thu 11:00 pm Bilinmez is aorist passive. Magid, trip and denizli liked this message

Thread: Gurbet Ne yana düşer, Usta?

206.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Oct 2014 Sat 11:35 pm   Quoting Wilou Hey,   Can anyone translate this? "Gurbet Ne yana düşer, Usta?" and "Göç kararını aldığında, sıkıştırmıştı çırağını, bir an önce çakması için taşları yerlerine."   Thank you in advance   Gurbet is the place which is away from homeland. The place where you are a stranger. He asks where it is. When he decided to emigrate, he hurried his apprentice to put stones immediately where they belong. Edited (10/25/2014) by gokuyum

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207.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Oct 2014 Tue 12:07 pm   Quoting Henry     Gokuyum öğretmensin, tebrikler! Hangi şehir çalışıyorsun?     I work in Çorum. tunci and Henry liked this message

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208.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Oct 2014 Mon 10:53 pm   Quoting nessah Kendine bak kendine.. Özüne ..Sözüne.. Benliğine..İlgilenme kimseyle.. Kim ne yemiş, ne giymişBundan sanane.. Sen kendini besle.. Bilgiyle.. Sevgiyle.. Merhametle.. Ancak o zaman ulaşırsın İnsan olmanın erdemine..   You look at yourself. Look at your inner self, words and ego. Dont be interested in anybody. What is it to you who eats or wears what? Feed yourself with knowledge, love, mercy. Then you can reach to the virtue of being a human.   note: I started to work as a teacher in another city and my pc is broken again. That is why I am not active on the forum for a while. This is my anouncement to the forum members tunci, raydin, Henry and denizli liked this message

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209.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Oct 2014 Sat 01:41 am   Quoting nessah İnsanın hayatındaki tek kişi doldurabilir bütün boşlukları ya da en azından doldurmaya çalışır. Bu da yeter. İnsanın hayatındaki tek kişi kapatabilir bütün yaraları ya da kanadıkça sarar sevgisiyle. Bu da yeter. “Fakat o da olmayınca?” Sadece bir kişi yoksa, ne yapar insan? İhtiyaç duyduğu sadece oysa, ne yapar bir başına bu dünyada yapayalnız?   Only one person in our life can fill all the gapes or at least try and this is enough. Only one person in our life can close our wounds or bandage them with his love when they bleed and this is enough. But what if we dont have him. What if that person doesnt exist, what would we do? What if he is the only one we need? What would we do all alone? nessah liked this message

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210.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Sep 2014 Tue 07:20 pm   Quoting nessah Bir kadın seni seviyorsa sana aittir. Mutlaka bir fotoğrafın vardır bir yerinde odasının onu kaldırtma! Bir kadın seni seviyorsa uyumadan önce dua ediyordur senin adınla başlayan dualar ve biten senin adınla onu susturma! Bir kadın seni se...viyorsa sana zarar veremez yalnız genç adam kadınlar vazgeçtikleri adamlara da acımayı beceremez bu da kalsın aklında.. Bir kadın seni seviyorsa koklayarak öper seni, Seni seven bir kadın sevdiği kadar sarılabilirse kemiklerin kırılır. Ve bir kadın seni seviyorsa sen ne kadar güçlüysen o kadar güçlü hisseder kendini onu yanıltma. İlk darbede yere çakılma oğlum, İlk imtihanda sınıfta kalma! Ve asla, Ama asla! Araya umutsuzluğu sokma. Orasıdır kadının şah damarı, umudu.. Kesildiği an, vazgeçer kadın. Sevmekten, Beklemekten, Özlemekten, Hatta dua etmekten… Can havliyle, kaçar. Yakalayamazsın. Artık o kadını üstüne alınamazsın. Sahip çıkamadığın kadına hesapta soramazsın. Kadınları bomba gibi düşün genç adam yanlış kabloyu kesersen onunla birlikte sende patlarsın. Bak oğlum! Bu hayatta her şeyi alırsın yalnız seni seven kadının yoktur fiyatı. Seni her şeye rağmen sevebilen kadını satın alamazsın, Cüzdanın kilo kaybettikçe, sevgileri eksilen sevgililerin olur en fazla.. Falan filan sonra, Bilirsin ya.. Sen sen ol o kadını satma! Bir kadın seni seviyorsa kavga eder. Hem birazdan boğazına yapışacak sanırsın, hem görürsün gözlerindeki korkuyu. Kadınlar susmaz genç adam, susmuş kadın gitmiş kadındır. Susmuş bir kadın için bitmiş bir adamsındır. Bu kadınların değişmez ve değiştirilmesi teklif bile edinilemez olan maddelerinden biridir. Kadın olmanın kuralıdır.. Bir şey daha vardır ki, Kuştur kadın, Ve bir gökyüzü vardır her kadının. Öyle bir havan olmalı ki adamım, Senden göçmediği için, onu dondurmamalısın. Bunu bir zamanlar seni gökyüzü ilan etmiş kadının, başka bir gökyüzünde kahkaha atışını duyunca anlarsın…”   I guess you lost your mind

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211.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Sep 2014 Sat 02:02 am   Quoting nessah yok öyle: umutlari yitirip, karanliklara savrulmak. unutma: ayni gökyuzu altinda bir direnistir yasamak   No to losing all hopes and to be driven away into darknesses. Dont forget : living is a resistance under the same sky.

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212.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Sep 2014 Fri 11:44 pm   Quoting nessah Bazen o adama öyle alışmış bulursun ki kendini ; O yokken hiçbir zaman tam olamamaktan korkarsın, sendeki eksik parçanın, o olmasından.   Sometimes you find yourself so used to being with that man, when he is absent, you are afraid of not being complete ever and afraid of he is the missing piece in you. Edited (9/5/2014) by gokuyum nessah liked this message

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213.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Sep 2014 Fri 11:41 pm   Quoting nessah Seni hatırlatacak her şeyden uzaklaştım.. Ama kendinden kaçamıyor ki insan.   I got away from everything that will remind you. But a human cant run away from himself. nessah liked this message

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214.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Sep 2014 Fri 11:39 pm   Quoting denizli     Is this double-negative wrong? If so why?   It is not wrong untill I say it is wrong  Actually it is very correct. Çok doğru. Edited (9/5/2014) by gokuyum KediNero and denizli liked this message

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215.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Sep 2014 Fri 09:30 pm   Quoting bachibachi hello, can anyone help me? Toplantıya sekreterimle katıldım-the sentence like this, i don´t understand what does this suffix means?-toplantıy-a why a? a is e-state suffix, i think there we need i-state suffix, am i right? please help me, thank´s   It means : I attended the meeting with my secretary.   But In Turkish we say "I attended to the meeting with my secretary."   So we use dative state suffix (e/a) doudi94 and bachibachi liked this message

Thread: T-E 2 sentences please...

216.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Sep 2014 Fri 04:31 pm   Quoting Lololooo "Canlarından can kopmuş" ? "karanlık yollara sarpıp kirlenmeyi göze alacak mıdır" I do not get the sarpıp in there? Thank you.   Canlarından can kopmuş means a part of their souls broke off. That means they lived a very upssetting event and it hurted them a lot.   It is not sarpıp, it is sapıp. The verb is sapmak. Lololooo liked this message

Thread: E to T please

217.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Sep 2014 Thu 09:06 pm   Quoting kiz_kiz You mean to me exactly what I mean to you.   Thanks!   Ben sana ne ifade ediyorsam, sen de bana onu ifade ediyorsun.

Thread: Easy books to read in Turkish (on a kindle)

218.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Sep 2014 Tue 01:31 pm Here are short stories and fairy tales:   http://www.cocukpinari.com/index.php/component/option,com_alphacontent/section,12/Itemid,99999999/   http://www.dersimiz.com/masal/   If you want to buy children books, here you can buy e-books. Of course first you have to create an account:   http://www.idefix.com/ekitap/cocuk-kitaplari/kategori_urun.asp?tree=01005 Edited (9/2/2014) by gokuyum Edited (9/2/2014) by gokuyum mavisborbon4 and alsalamoalaykom liked this message

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219.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Aug 2014 Sun 03:51 am   Quoting nessah Gözlerin ufkumda bir nur inan ki En umutsuz karanlık gecelerde Seninle kördüğüm gibiyim sanki Çözülmek bilmeyen bilmecelerde Believe that your eyes are a light at my horizon In the most hopeless dark nights I am like a gordion knot with you In the puzzles that are not possible to solve   Seni sevip de unutmak mümkün mü? Kalbime vurulan mühür gibisin Ben deli divane hayat küskünü Sen daha taptaze ömür gibisin   Is it possible to forget you after I loved you? You are like a seal set to my heart I am a crazy person who is upset with life You are like a very fresh life. Bir sana yangınım bir sana vurgunum Sensiz yaşayamam anlıyor musun Hava gibi su gibi sana mecburum I only burn for you, I am addicted to you I cant live without you, do you understand? I am desperately in need of you like air and water Sensin içli sevdam nazlı çiçeğim Benim tatlı hülyam haklı gerçeğim Bu can bu bedende var oldukça Seni ölümüm gibi bekleyeceğim   You are my emotional love, delicate flower My sweet dream and rightful truth As long as this soul stays in this body I will wait you like my death   I am going to throw up.   Edited (8/31/2014) by gokuyum Edited (8/31/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: Translation help please

220.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Aug 2014 Thu 11:39 am   Quoting Roja     Thank you, but what is "when" in the turkish sentence? I thought Araladın mı= did you open it a bit, but is has another meaning here? According to how you use it, mı/mi can mean when.   tunci liked this message

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221.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Aug 2014 Tue 10:14 am   Quoting MarioninTurkey   There is nobody in the neighbourhood who died and you didn´t make helva for their wake. or You made helva for every wake for deaths in the neighbourhood.       What does wake mean here? Can you explain please?

Thread: T-E 2 sentences please?

222.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Aug 2014 Sun 01:41 pm   Quoting MarioninTurkey Relieved that göküyüm didn´t understand it either!!!   I wondered whether it meant "they can describe me any way they like", "they can call me what they like" .... as in as long as I have you I don´t care what anyone else thinks. But that was just a guess     Why do you think my nickname is göküyüm? It is gokuyum But if you want you can call me Yusuf MarioninTurkey liked this message

Thread: Tanju Okan - İçkim sigaram

223.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Aug 2014 Sat 10:26 pm   Quoting foka    Thanks Guru     I am too old to be a Guru. Ah but all the Gurus are old, right? Edited (8/23/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: T-E 2 sentences please?

224.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Aug 2014 Fri 11:28 am   Quoting Lololooo "O kadar nikahımıza alıyoruz, daha ne yapalım güzelim?" I marry with you, what can I do more, beauty? & "Ben seninle her türlü sıfata varım be güzel kadın" This sentence is not understandable for me. I am up to every adjective with you, beautiful woman.   Thank you.     Lololooo and MarioninTurkey liked this message

Thread: Tanju Okan - İçkim sigaram

225.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Aug 2014 Thu 11:04 am   Quoting foka My best friends are my drink and my cigarette Dudaklarım kurudu aşk ateşiyle Bir damla su verecek o pınar nerde Gözlerim bir noktada dalgın soruyor Yıllardır dost bildiğim sevgilim nerde   My lips dried with the fire of love Where is that spring that will give me a drop of water? My eyes are asking preoccupied at one point Where is my sweatheart that I have regarded as a friend for many years?   Nerde bana sevgiyle uzanan eller Nerde bana söylenen o tatlı sözler Büsbütün inançlarım yıkıldı bir bir Bomboş kaldı dostluğa uzanan eller   Where are the hands headed towards me with love? Where are those sweet words that were told to me? Entirely my beliefs have gone to pieces one by one Remained empty, the hands that had headed towards friendship   Benim en iyi dostum içkim sigaram Onlarda terk ederdi olmasa param Canım kadar yakınım el oldu şimdi Dünyada dost denilen kelime yalan   My best friends are my drink and my cigarette They would leave me behind unless I had money My beloved close to me like my life has become a stranger now In the world, the word called friendship is a lie   Her akşam efkar basar garip gönlümü İçerken kadehleri kırasım gelir Suskun dudaklarımda sessiz bir şarkı Ah ettikçe içimden bir alev gelir     Every night, my poor heart has got the blues While drinking, I happen to break the goblets A silent song on my quiet lips As I sigh, a flame comes from inside   Benim en iyi dostum içkim sigaram Onlarda terk ederdi olmasa param Canım kadar yakınım el oldu şimdi Dünyada dost denilen kelime yalan My best friends are my drink and my cigarette They would leave me behind unless I had money My beloved close to me like my life has become a stranger now In the world, the word called friendship is a lie was easy, enjoy   btw nice song, same as Daroi Moreno - Her aksam vodka, raki ve sarap I cıuldnt find any mistakes. If you translated it, you did a great job   Edited (8/21/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: Tanju Okan - İçkim sigaram

226.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Aug 2014 Thu 03:07 am   Quoting foka My best friends are my drink and my cigarette My lips dried with the fire of love Where is that spring that will give me a drop of water? My eyes are asking preoccupied at one point Where is my sweatheart that I have regarded as a friend for many years? Where are the hands headed towards me with love? Where are those sweet words that were told to me? Entirely my beliefs have gone to pieces one by one Remained empty, the hands that had headed towards friendship My best friends are my drink and my cigarette They would leave me behind unless I had money My beloved close to me like my life has become a stranger now In the world, the word called friendship is a lie Every night, my poor heart has got the blues While drinking, I happen to break the goblets A silent song on my quiet lips As I sigh, a flame comes from inside My best friends are my drink and my cigarette They would leave me behind unless I had money My beloved close to me like my life has become a stranger now In the world, the word called friendship is a lie was easy, enjoy   btw nice song, same as Daroi Moreno - Her aksam vodka, raki ve sarap   You translated this or found a translation? If you did it, I will check your mistakes. If not, I dont care Edited (8/21/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: PLEASE HELP :(((((

227.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Aug 2014 Thu 03:04 am I started to feel like a love guru I guess Turkish class made me one after so many translations Edited (8/21/2014) by gokuyum foka liked this message

Thread: PLEASE HELP :(((((

228.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Aug 2014 Thu 02:59 am   Quoting lucybevan1988 Could someone help me say    Baran I want to feel support love and respect from a man .. if a girl sends me bad messages I want my boyfriend to support me and tell me how much I mean to him... Not add other girls and like photos - do you think that´s appropriate when we argue ? Baran ben sevdiğim adamdan destek, sevgi ve saygı bekliyorum. Eğer bir kız bana kötü mesajlar gönderirse ben erkek arkadaşımın beni desteklemesini ve bana onun için ne kadar önemli olduğumu söylemesini istiyorum. Başka kızların fotoraflarını ekleyip onları beğenmesini değil.   You ask why I don´t want to marry you- I won´t marry anyone until I feel loved. Niçin seninle evlenmek istemediğimi soruyorsun. Sevildiğimi hissedene kadar evlenmeyeceğim.   i want a man to treat me like a princess appreciate me, appreciate what I am leaving for you .. And when I´m sad to cheer me up but you´ve done the opposite ... Ben bana bir prenses gibi davranacak, beni takdir edecek, üzüldüğümde beni neşelendirecek bir erkek istiyorum. Ama sen tersini yapıyorsun.   so when I feel loved I´ll marry but not until then  Sevildiğimi hissedene kadar evlenmeyeceğim.

Thread: Can you help me understand the parts of this word.

229.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Aug 2014 Wed 05:12 pm   Quoting heatherlp64 Hi, in my grammar book it is explaining ´verbless´ sentences eg I am a teacher, you are a student etc.  Everything makes sense apart from ´arkadaşlarımız öğrenci´, translated as ´our friends are students´.  So, the ´lar´ is the plural, yes,  ´ımız´ is the ´our´.  But I´d have expected öğrenciler.  Is this another case where you´ve already said there´s more than one by using ´lar´ and therefore don´t show the plural of ´students´?   "Arkadaşlarımız öğrenciler" is correct. But it is not neccessary to use "ler" after öğrenci because we understand that they are more than one person when we read arkadaşlarımız. So sometimes we dont make the other word plural.

Thread: PLEASE HELP :(((((

230.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Aug 2014 Wed 03:54 pm   Quoting lucybevan1988 How could you ever shout and get crazy at me, i had to close my facebook over the abusive messages i received from people i don’t know. I cried myself to sleep last night- had so many horrible things running through my mind. I didn’t deserve any of this if it’s true. Nasıl bana bağırıp kızabilirsin? Tanımadığım insanlardan aldığım rahatsız edici mesajlardan dolayı facebookumu kapattım. Geçen gece ağlayarak uyudum. Aklımdan çok korkunç şeyler geçti. Eğer doğruysa bunların hiçbirini haketmedim. She is a nasty crazy girl, i do not deserve this Baran, i am coming in 8 days now and i open facebook to read these messages my heart dropped i cant even explain the feeling i felt when someone told me the love of my life was kissing a girl on a bench outside the cafe? Can you imagine how i must feel....if this is all lies they are EVIL and cruel. O huysuz deli bir kız. Bunu haketmiyorum Baran. 8 gün içinde geliyorum ve facebooku açtığımda okuduğum mesajlar dolayısıyla çok kötü oldum. Sana birisinin hayatının aşkının kafenin dışarısında bir bankta bir kızı öptüğünü söylemesinin hissettirdiği duyguyu tarif bile edemem. Nasıl hissettiğimi hayal edebiliyor musun? Eğer bunlar yalansa bunu söyleyenler gerçekten çok zalim ve yalancı olmalılar. To not message or even put up a fight to try and convince me or support me, instead you have just gone crazy and upset me more.... : ( Kavga çıkarmadan beni ikna etmeye çalışmak ve beni desteklemek yerine, çıldırıp beni daha çok üzdün.   I come in 9 days and i have no idea what to do now.... i am not even excited about coming anymore so thank you Baran and Elena for ruining this for me. 9 gün içinde geliyorum ve şimdi ne yapmam gerektiği hakkında hiçbir fikrim yok. Artık gelmek konusunda bile hevesli değilim. Bunu mahvettiğiniz için teşekkürler Baran ve Elena. I am telling you something now Baran words cant explain how hurt i am about receiving these messages.  Aldığım bu mesajlar dolayısıyla ne kadar üzüldüğümü kelimeler anlatamaz Baran.

Thread: Translation Turkish to English, please

231.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Aug 2014 Wed 03:40 pm   Quoting MarioninTurkey Göküyüm -- is this song/poem just an imaginary event, or does it relate to something that actually happened? If so, what? who?     I really dont know.

Thread: Translation Turkish to English, please

232.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Aug 2014 Mon 10:08 am   Quoting Elias Can anyone help me with an understanding of these lines? Anything at all, please, full translation, part translation, background information, anything, please: Bir ormanda tutup onu Bağladılar ağaca Yumdu sanki uyur gibi Gözlerini usulca One day in a forest they caught him. And they tied him to a tree. He closed his eyes slowly like he is sleeping. Bir soğuk yel eser Üşür ölüm bile Anlatır akan kanı Beyaz sesiyle A cold wind blows. Even death chills. It tells the shed blood with its white voice. Diz çöktüler karşısına Sonra ateş ettiler Parçalanan yüreğine Yuva kurdu mermiler They kneeled across him. Then they shot. The bullets made a home in his torned heart. Bir soğuk yel eser Üşür ölüm bile Anlatır akan kanı Beyaz sesiyle A cold wind blows. Even death chills. It tells the shed blood with its white voice. Gelip kondu bir güvercin Ellerine o gece Kırmızı bir çelenk oldu Bileğinde kelepçe A dove came and settled on his hands that night. His handcuffs turned into a red wreath. Bir soğuk yel eser Üşür ölüm bile Anlatır akan kanı Beyaz sesiyle A cold wind blows. Even death chills. It tells the shed blood with its white voice.     Edited (8/18/2014) by gokuyum foka and MarioninTurkey liked this message

Thread: how do i say this in turkish pls

233.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Aug 2014 Mon 09:56 am   Quoting nessah "Always help someone. You might be the only one who does."     İnsanlara herzaman yardım et. Belki de tek yardım eden sensindir. Daisy01, nessah and MarioninTurkey liked this message

Thread: Pegaito/Yaz Geliyor Heyoo

234.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Aug 2014 Sun 08:15 pm   Quoting trip Thank you, all! And thank you especially to gokuyum for correcting the Turkish lyrics themselves. As usual, I have questions: 1) icmişim vs. icimişim -- Which is the correct rendering? When I first worked on the song, I read the word as "icmişim" and I was on the right track in thinking the line meant "it seems I drank so much." But then I saw that extra "i" and I was completely confused. Is it just a typo? ... And what is "o gazla"? içmişim is correct. Other is typo. "O gazla" is slang. Gaz means accelerator, gas. So here o gazla means "with that thought that makes you accelerate or makes you very enthuiastic about something" 2) Gokuyum, can you explain "bir parmak balçalar"? I know it is an expression, but what is "balça"? "Honeyish"? "Like honey?" I couldn´t find anything like this in my dictionaries, even the excellent online one you directed me to. İt is "bal çalar". It is mistyped. Çalmak has a lot of meanings and here it means "to put" I guess. To put honey to your mouth. And one last comment: I hate to say it, but I think the Colombian singer outshines Sıla in this one. She is very good, and they are singing in his genre, but he is so expressive. And it´s very nice the way he uses his voice to imitate the brass when he sings "tiempo" and "cuerpo." I wonder why Sıla didn´t choose to sing in a style more similar to his. Tekrar teşekkürler!     trip liked this message

Thread: Pegaito/Yaz Geliyor Heyoo

235.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Aug 2014 Sat 10:01 pm   Quoting trip Merhabalar! I usually don´t ask you to translate something for me, but I am having a lot of trouble with these lyrics from a song by Sıla and the Colombian group Ciclo. The song alternates between Turkish and Spanish, and these are the Turkish lyrics. I have made some attempts here, but I can tell I am nowhere close on some of the lines. And I simply don´t understand "içimişim." You will have to help me! vurdum kendimi gece sokaklara -- At night, I headed for the streets alone. anladım ki duramayacağım evde -- I knew I couldn´t stay at home. kalabalık bir parmak balçalar -- The crowd gives you a little taste of honey. biraz doyarım hiç değilse -- I will be satisfied a little, at least. öyle çok içimişim ki o gazla -- I drank so much with that tought uyandığımda o baş ağrısıyla -- When I woke, it was with a headache. Kendimi senden az sevmenin -- Loving myself less than you, bittim ben utandıyıyla -- I am done with his being ashamed. canı pazarda mı buldum yapma -- Is the market whereI I found my life? Dont do. dedim kendime üstüne basma -- I said myself, don´t descend on it yaz geliyor heyoo -- Summer is coming. hadi içelim heyoo -- Come on, let´s drink. Uyandır kalbini -- Awaken your heart. Sabah oluyor heyoo -- Morning is breaking. P.S. -- The video for this song is very nice. She and the Colombian singer text back and forth. I was very happy to be able to understand the texts!   http://www.izlesene.com/video/sila-feat-ciclon-pegaito-yaz-geliyor-heyoo/7439187       trip liked this message

Thread: Turkish to English please

236.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Aug 2014 Fri 08:04 pm   Quoting ccrook Thank you very much   You are welcome. That sentence is written with a broken Turkish. I can rewrite it correctly if you want.

Thread: Turkish to English please

237.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Aug 2014 Fri 07:55 pm   Quoting ccrook Sevdiklerin uzulmesindiye iciniz kan aglarken bile rebels sum edecek kadar guclu olur seven insan   thanks   A lover is powerful enough to smile not to upset who he loves when his soul sheds bloody tears. Edited (8/15/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: Help regarding move

238.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Aug 2014 Fri 07:51 pm   Quoting denizli Why not. Life in England must be boring, for some.   Life in Turkey can be boring too. If you are alone like me

Thread: ...lik boyunca?

239.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Aug 2014 Fri 07:50 pm   Quoting GulBahar Herkese teşekkürler.  Then we can use boyunca with the verb if we add süre Ike you said.  "gittiğim süre boyunca"?   Then is there any difference between the suffix -iken and boyunca?   As you see -ken comes after verbs and it means when. But boyunca is a particle and it comes after a noun. Boyunca means during, along. Edited (8/15/2014) by gokuyum GulBahar liked this message

Thread: ellerimle

240.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Aug 2014 Fri 01:30 am   Quoting jac83ques Can I say in Turkish :   Çamaşır makinesi yokken, ellerimle çamaşır yıkıyorum.   It´s correct or not. I see no problem with this sentence at least grammaticaly.   Edited (8/15/2014) by gokuyum Edited (8/15/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: ...lik boyunca?

241.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Aug 2014 Thu 09:34 am   Quoting GulBahar I´ve noticed that when using boyunca a noun comes before like in Öğrenciliğim boyunca  hamelelik boyunca   Is it possible to use a verb like  Gittiğim boyunca or is there sth else or may be I´m missing something.    Teşekkürler.    "gittiğim süre boyunca" GulBahar liked this message

Thread: Beklenen vs özlenen

242.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Aug 2014 Thu 09:32 am   Quoting MarioninTurkey     Translation by Foka is great.   The -en or -an ending on a verb means "the person who is doing the action" so beklenen = the one who waits özlenen = the one who is longing for/yearning for     You mean bekleyen and özleyen.   bekleyen = the one who waits beklenen = the one who is waited (for) özleyen = the one who misses özlenen = the one who is missed Moha-ios and Phideli liked this message

Thread: T2E

243.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Aug 2014 Tue 07:14 pm There are no ifs in those sentences Marion. Look at carefully. MarioninTurkey liked this message

Thread: Adem Oğlu Kızgın Fırın Havva Kızı Mercimek

244.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Aug 2014 Sun 04:22 pm   Quoting trip Teşekkür ederim, gokuyum. Bazı sorular sana sorabilir miyim? 1) Mercimek fırın yan yana fazla söze ne gerek -- The lentil and the oven side by side is what faith needs most. My first question is sort of an elementary one, but I have long been confused about "fazla." In the dictionary, it is defined as "too much, too many." But I have also been taught that "daha fazla" means "much more." But then there is also "daha çok." Is there a difference between them? ... And then in this line from the song, "fazla" seems to mean "most." But why would you not say "en fazla" or "en çok." ... What I really need is a good lesson on all of this. If there is one here, please point me to it. First of all translation is not correct. I didnt notice it. The translation must be like this: "The lentil and oven is side by side. There is no need for more words." I will search for a lesson for fazla. 2) Deli gönül sevdi mi istemez yorgan döşek -- When the crazy heart love, it doesn´t needblanket and bed. Can you explain where you get "when" in this line? Is "mi" not a question particle here? I am confused. Mi is a question particle but here it has "when" meaning. 3) Kızdır nazdır bin altın azdır -- She is a girl, she is delicate. A thousand gold coins is little. Oğlan oktur her evde yoktur -- The youth is an arrow. There isn´t one in every house. Yep Okay, I have given these lines another try. Thank you for correcting the lines of Turkish themselves. It is very difficult sometimes to find accurate versions of lyrics on the Web. And my ear is not good enough yet to always hear exactly what Barış is singing. ... I guess Barış is saying that you shouldn´t take your mate for granted? Each one is precious and hard to come by? Tekrar teşekkürler!     Edited (8/10/2014) by gokuyum Edited (8/10/2014) by gokuyum trip liked this message

Thread: Adem Oğlu Kızgın Fırın Havva Kızı Mercimek

245.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Aug 2014 Sat 05:21 pm   Quoting trip Merhabalar! I have tried to translate another Barış Manço song: "Adem Oğlu Kızgın Fırın Havva Kızı Mercimek." I have marked with red the places where I´m not sure what is going on. I´m sure you will find others. This is another song where I´m sure there are cultural aspects I don´t fully appreciate. For instance, I know of Ferhat and Şirin (or Hüsrev and Şirin) from reading "My Name Is Red," in which Orhan Pamuk parallels their story with that of Shekure and Black (Şekure ve Kara). But I´m sure you could tell me more.  Here is the song. ... Çok teşekkürler! Adem Oğlu Kızgın Fırın Havva Kızı Mercimek -- Son of Adam Is the Hot Oven and Daughter of Eve Is the Lentil Adem babayla Havva anadan bu yana -- Since Adam the father and Eve the mother, Çok şeyler söylendi sevda üzerine -- Many things have been said about passionate love. Sayısız türküler yapıldı Leyla ile Mecnun Ferhat ile Şirin -- Countless Turkish folk songs have been done: Leyla and Mecnun, Ferhat and Şirin. Türlü masallar yazıldı Kerem ile Asli Yusuf ile Züleyha gibi -- Various folk tales have been written, like Kerem and Asil, Yusuf and Züleyha  Hepside dertli ayrılıklarla biten ızdırap gözyaşı dolu -- All of them are full of tearful suffering that ends with a woeful parting. Hani karabasan gibi insanın dünyasını karartan sıkıntılı şeylerdi -- To tell the truth, they were troubling things that darkened man´s world like a nightmare. Bugün Barış kardeşiniz sizlere yeni bir türkü söyleyecek -- Today Barış your brother will sing a new folk song for you, Çünkü Barış gördü ki yeryüzünde en büyük gerçek -- Because Barış saw the greatest truth on the face of the earth. Adem oğlu kızgın fırın Havva kızı mercimek -- Son of Adam is the hot oven and daughter of Eve is the lentil. Kız dediğin nazlı olur erkek ise mangal yürek -- The one you call a girl should be delicate, you say. As for the man, he is burning courage. Er kişinin yanında hatun gerek -- A brave man needs a woman by his side.  Kız dediğin nazlı olur erkek ise mangal yürek -- The one you call girl should be delicate. As for the man, he is burning courage. Er kişinin yanında hatun gerek -- A brave man needs a woman by his side.  Adem oğlu kızgın fırın Havva kızı mercimek -- Son Adam is the hot oven and daughter Eve is the lentil. Kız olmazsa er kişi kolsuz kanatsız demek -- If there is no woman, it means a man has no arms, no wings. Davulu dengi dengine vurmak gerek -- It is necessary for each to strike the drum with his equal. (It is necessary for each to be matched with his equal?) Yep Kız olmazsa er kişi kolsuz kanatsız demek -- If there is no woman, it means a man has no arms, no wings. Davulu dengi dengine vurmak gerek -- It is necessary for each to strike the drum with his equal.  Adem oğlu kızgın fırın Havva kızı mercimek -- Son Adam is the hot oven and daughter Eve is the lentil. Adem oğlu kızgın fırın Havva kızı mercimek -- Son Adam is the hot oven and daughter Eve is the lentil. Mercimek fırın yan yana fazla söze ne gerek -- The lentil and the oven side by side is what faith needs most. Deli gönül sevdi mi istemez yorgan döşek -- When the crazy heart love, it doesn´t need blanket and bed. Adem oğlu kızgın fırın Havva kızı mercimek -- Son Adam is the hot oven and daughter Eve is the lentil. Kimi zeytin peynir yer kimi baklava börek -- Some eat olives and cheese, some eat baklava and börek. Kimine saray dar gelir kimine bir oda gerek -- For some a palace becomes narrow, for some only one room is necessary.  İki göz bir kulübe yeter Havva kızına -- Two eyes and a hut are enough for Daughter of Eve. Adem oğlu kalender yiyeceği bir lokma ekmek -- Son of Adam is easygoing. His food is a bite of bread.  Adem oğlu kızgın fırın Havva kızı mercimek -- Son of Adam is the hot oven and daughter of Eve is the lentil. Tanrı böyle buyurmuş dünya böyle kurulmuş -- God ordered it this way. The world was established this way. Her Adem oğluna bir Havva nasip olmuş -- To every Son of Adam, a Daughter of Eve is granted. Tanrı böyle buyurmuş dünya böyle kurulmuş -- God ordered it this way. The world was established this way. Her Adem oğluna bir Havva nasip olmuş -- To every Son of Adam, a Daughter of Eve is granted. Yedi iklim dört kuşak inanmazsan git de bak -- The seven climes and the four zones, if you don´t believe, go and look!     Nuh´un gemisinde bile fırın mercimek dolmuş -- Even Noah´s ship was full of ovens and lentils. Adem oğlu kızgın fırın Havva kızı mercimek -- Son of Adam is the hot oven and daughter of Eve is the lentil. Kızdır nazdır bin altın azdır -- ???  Oğlan oktur her evde yoktur -- There is no youth in every home. There is a saying in Turkish: Mercimeği fırına vermek. I guess this saying inspired Barış and he wrote this song. This saying means "the two lovers secretly devoloped their love".   Edited (8/9/2014) by gokuyum Edited (8/9/2014) by gokuyum Edited (8/9/2014) by gokuyum Edited (8/9/2014) by gokuyum trip liked this message

Thread: translation

246.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Aug 2014 Sat 01:29 am   Quoting tunci     Olsa  da yesek ---> I wish there was something so we [I] would eat [that]   Note :By this statement someone is craving for the particular  food and wishing for it [to eat].     Yep but maybe he mans something specified. Than the translation must be like that "I wish there was that so we would eat it.

Thread: Ziynet Sali - Rüya (Dream)

247.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Aug 2014 Sat 01:26 am   Quoting denizli I was listening to this too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhVxTUOqwq4 And Beş Çayi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxMS71hOo9U These songs have a latin sound in my opinion. I think Bossa Nova. Could that be or is this a Greek or Turkish rhythm? Also couldn´t Beş Çayi translate to "the 5 teas"? Here is part of it: Bir kahveye uğra derim Ya da beş çayına I saw on another site this translated as "5 o´clock tea" and another one "5 sips of tea". I didn´t understand.   Beş çayı is the tea you drink at 5 o´ clock (pm).   denizli liked this message

Thread: O da beni severdi de, işi çıktı galiba

248.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Aug 2014 Thu 11:49 pm   Quoting opq009     Is işi çıkmak an expression? yes.  What tense is severdi? it is "geniş zamanın hikayesi" Why is there two times de/da? First de means "too" second de means "but"

Thread: O da beni severdi de, işi çıktı galiba

249.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Aug 2014 Thu 10:37 pm   Quoting deli just learnt somethıng new thanks gokuyum işi cıktı somethıng came up   and I wanted to put would or used to love but I hesıtated   always my problem   Yep. I hesitated too. Sentence is not clear. Edited (8/7/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: Help please :(((

250.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Aug 2014 Thu 10:30 pm   Quoting lucybevan1988 Could someone help me say this in Turkish ...   in my eyes from England I see you giving out name contact details to girls on holiday ... This is not nice ... How would you feel if I have my name out to men in turkey when I move ??? That´s how I feel now ..   you did not even like my status about moving to turkey with you but you like all her photos and comment ? I feel worthless hurt and broken I can´t talk I´m tooo upset think how I feel seeing all this from England (   Look dear. Be patient and find someone decent and loyal in England. Meanwhile work hard for a good career. Dont destroy your future running after a man who you cant even communicate with. Edited (8/7/2014) by gokuyum Edited (8/7/2014) by gokuyum elenagabriela, tunci and harp00n liked this message

Thread: O da beni severdi de, işi çıktı galiba

251.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Aug 2014 Thu 10:24 pm   Quoting opq009 Hi,   Could one please translate to English: "O da beni severdi de, işi çıktı galiba"   Çok teşekkür ederim.   He/she would love me too but I guess he/she is busy with something. deli liked this message

Thread: Translation Attempts

252.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Aug 2014 Mon 06:11 pm   Quoting mariam02 Hello I want to translate this message. It´s my first attempt. can anyone help me to tell me if this is correct?  Denizli gençleri tiki kız gibi dikkat çekmek için her boku yapıyor ;kendi bağırıyor,kıyafeti bağırıyor bu da yetmiyor arabayı bağırttırıyor.   Denizli girls as young tigers are doing all that shit to take care of its own, yelling, yelling outfit and cars that´s not enough. I translated it in your other post.

Thread: translation t to e please

253.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Aug 2014 Mon 06:06 pm   Quoting mariam02 Hello I want to translate this message. It´s my first attempt. can anyone help me to tell me if this is correct?  Denizli gençleri tiki kız gibi dikkat çekmek için her boku yapıyor ;kendi bağırıyor,kıyafeti bağırıyor bu da yetmiyor arabayı bağırttırıyor.   Denizli girls as young tigers are doing all that shit to take care of its own, yelling, yelling outfit and cars that´s not enough. Yougsters of Denizli do every shit to take attention like rich arrogant girls. They scream for attention, their clothes scream and as if it is not enough they make their cars scream   Esra98 liked this message

Thread: One child has been killed in Gaza every hour

254.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Aug 2014 Sun 01:54 pm Bin kere mazlum olsan da bir kere zalim olma.     Even you have been oppressed 1000 times, dont be an oppressor even for once.     Free Palastine   Edited (8/3/2014) by gokuyum Elisabeth and tunci liked this message

Thread: Gaza/Gazze

255.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Aug 2014 Sun 01:09 pm   Quoting trip Merhabalar! I have been trying to read articles in Hürriyet, and most of them are still difficult for me. But then I turned to the coverage of the events in Gaza, and because I already know much of the news, they were a bit easier for me. However, I have what is probably a stupid question for you. I had assumed that the word Gaza was related to the "gaza" that refers to "a military campaign on behalf of Islam." But I see the word in Turkish for the Gaza Strip is actually Gazze. Can someone please explain. Is there any relationship between the words? Teşekkür ederim!   Yeah "gaza" means İslamic millitary campaign. There are many "gazaname"s written in the times of Ottoman Empire telling about the conquers of foreign lands. I looked at google to find what Gaza means and I found this detailed explanation: http://www.abarim-publications.com/Meaning/Gaza.html#.U94IjWOr82A Note: I think Arabs pronounce it Gazze and Israelis pronunce it Gaza. I am not sure. Edited (8/3/2014) by gokuyum trip liked this message

Thread: Artık - Var ya

256.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jul 2014 Thu 09:10 pm   Quoting Moamen Merhaba,   Sometimes turkish drives me to the conclusion that it is only meant for turks, I´ve struggling with understaning ARTIK and Varya and I´d REALLY appreciate it if somebody explained those words to me with LOTS of examples     Thanks in advance ! I guess you can keep going on learning Turkish now after these answers and you can prove to world that Turkish is not a language only for Turks   Esra98, tunci and Moamen liked this message

Thread: Artık - Var ya

257.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jul 2014 Thu 08:41 pm   Quoting Moamen Merhaba,   Sometimes turkish drives me to the conclusion that it is only meant for turks, I´ve struggling with understaning ARTIK and Varya and I´d REALLY appreciate it if somebody explained those words to me with LOTS of examples     Thanks in advance !   Artık means "from now on" Seninle artık konuşmayacağım. I will not talk to you from now on.     Edited (7/31/2014) by gokuyum Edited (7/31/2014) by gokuyum Edited (7/31/2014) by gokuyum Moamen, Esra98 and tunci liked this message

Thread: my translation English to Turkish, thanks

258.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jul 2014 Tue 06:46 pm   Quoting denizli How would the meaning change with this: Özür dilerim ama mesaj gönderemiyorum And why is message singular, because it could be one?   If it was gönderemiyorum, it would be because of a problem. Think "mesaj göndermek" as one verb.  When you say "mesaj gönderemiyorum", you say that you are not able to do this action. So it doesnt matter that you want to send one or more messages. Because it will not change the meaning. But if the sentence was like that: I cant send the messages. Than translation would be like this: Mesajları gönderemiyorum. Because we have a definite object now.   Edited (7/29/2014) by gokuyum Edited (7/29/2014) by gokuyum Edited (7/29/2014) by gokuyum Edited (7/29/2014) by gokuyum denizli liked this message

Thread: my translation English to Turkish, thanks

259.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jul 2014 Tue 06:28 pm   Quoting halturklondon Özür dilerim ama mesajları gönderemem I´m sorry but I can´t send messages     Özür dilerim ama mesaj gönderemem. I think that you dont want to send messages to him right? If so, my translation is correct.   denizli liked this message

Thread: Benden Öte Benden Ziyade

260.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jul 2014 Mon 12:30 pm   Quoting trip Merhabalar! Gokuyum suggested that I try to translate "Benden Öte Benden Ziyade." My attempt is below. But first, a couple of questions. First, I have never seen apostrophes used this way before: "O´nu düşün o´na sığın." Could this be because the "O" is referring to Allah? In English, we would capitalize pronouns when they refer to God. "Let Him be praised." Could this be something similar? And then perhaps "it" should really be "He" in some spots? Yeah normally you cant write "he" that way. And you cant use apostrophes. But as you mention "He" adresses to Allah and writing it "he" would be disrespect. Second, this line has me puzzled: "Orda öyle bir isim var ki." If I translate it literally, it doesn´t seem to make much sense. But then I found this in the dictionary:  You should translate it literally. Because he says "there is such a name written in four books and he is beyond and greater than us". Four books are Torah, Psalter, Bible, Quran. You can see the name of God in them.     Edited (7/28/2014) by gokuyum Edited (7/28/2014) by gokuyum trip liked this message

Thread: Benden Öte Benden Ziyade

261.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jul 2014 Mon 12:23 pm   Quoting trip Merhabalar! Gokuyum suggested that I try to translate "Benden Öte Benden Ziyade." My attempt is below. But first, a couple of questions. First, I have never seen apostrophes used this way before: "O´nu düşün o´na sığın." Could this be because the "O" is referring to Allah? In English, we would capitalize pronouns when they refer to God. "Let Him be praised." Could this be something similar? And then perhaps "it" should really be "He" in some spots? Second, this line has me puzzled: "Orda öyle bir isim var ki." If I translate it literally, it doesn´t seem to make much sense. But then I found this in the dictionary:  isimi var, cismi yok. colloq.  1. He/She/It is much talked of but never seen.  2. It´s something imaginary.  The construction is not quite the same, because "isim" doesn´t have a final "i" on it here, but I still tried to use it.  And what does the song mean? Gokuyum said it is about "love, life, death, god, religion and mysticism." My knowledge of Islam is very basic, but here are my thoughts: A man is locked away from his beloved, perhaps literally, perhaps figuratively. He is suffering. But he tells himself, and his beloved, to turn to the four books. Bu Kuran, değil mi? Here he finds solace in something greater than himself. Meditation gives him patience, gives him strength. It allows him to see his life as part of a greater whole. Part of Allah. And in this oneness, perhaps he is also with his beloved. ... Perhaps this is a Sufi-inspired song? The short, repetitive lines at the end make me think of the rotations of a dervish. Teşekkürler! Benden Ote Benden Ziyade -- Beyond Me, Greater Than Me Bu akşam yine garip bir hüzün çöktü üstüme -- Again this evening a strange sadness has settled over me. Hücrem soğuk bir tek sen varsın düşlerimde -- My cell is cold. Only you are in my dreams. Demir kapı yine kapandı ağır ağır üzerime -- Again the iron door has been closed slowly over me. Kelepçeler yine vuruldu kilit kilit yüreğime -- Again the handcuffs have been closed fast around my heart. Derin derin soluyorum seni gecelerce -- Night after night, I inhale you deeply.  Duvarlara kazıdım ismini her köşeye -- I scraped your name onto the walls, in every corner. Dudakların şeker gibiydi -- Your lips were like candy, Baldan öte baldan ziyade -- Beyond honey, greater than honey. Pembe pembe yanakların -- Your cheeks so pink, Gülden öte gülden ziyade -- Beyond a rose, greater than a rose. Sabret gönül sabret -- Be patient, heart, be patient. Sakın isyan etme -- Beware, don´t revolt. Bir gün elbet bitecek bu çile -- Someday surely this suffering will end. İsyan etme -- Do not revolt. Dört kitaptan başlayalım istersen gel söze -- Let us start with the four books(Torah, Psalter, Bible, Quran). If you wish, come to the word. Orda öyle bir isim var ki -- There is such a name written there (God) Kuldan öte kuldan ziyade -- Beyond a man, more than a man. O´nu düşün o´na sığın -- Meditate on Him, take refuge behind Him O senden öte benden ziyade -- He is beyond you, greater than me. Bir sabah elbet güneş de doğacak penceremde -- One morning surely the sun will also rise in my window. Ama bil ki ateşin hala yanacak yüreğimde -- But know that your fire still will burn in my heart. Gözyaşlarım akıp gidecek -- My tears will pour out and go. Selden öte selden ziyade -- Beyond a torrent, greater than a torrent. Bir canım var vereceğim -- I have one life. I will give it. Baldan öte baldan ziyade -- Beyond honey, greater than honey. Sabret gönül sabret -- Be patient, heart, be patient. Sakın isyan etme -- Beware, don´t revolt. Bir gün elbet bitecek bu çile -- Someday surely this suffering will end. İsyan etme -- Do not revolt. Dört kitaptan başlayalım istersen gel söze -- Let us start with the four books. If you wish, come to the word. Orda öyle bir isim var ki -- There is such a name written there..  Kuldan öte kuldan ziyade -- Beyond a man, greater than a man. O´nu düşün o´na sığın -- Meditate on Him, take refuge behind Him. O senden öte benden ziyade -- He is beyond you, greater than me. Bir ben var ki benim içimde -- Inside me, there is another me. Benden öte benden ziyade -- Beyond me, greater than me. Bir sen var ki senin içinde -- Inside you, there is another you. Senden öte senden ziyade -- Beyond you, greater than you. Bir ben var ki benim içimde -- Inside me, there is another me.  Benden öte benden ziyade -- Beyond me, greater than me. Bir sen var ki senin içinde -- Inside you, there is another you.  Senden öte senden ziyade -- Beyond you, greater than you.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UEMP6Irs7A     Edited (7/28/2014) by gokuyum trip liked this message

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262.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jul 2014 Mon 12:07 pm   Quoting lucybevan1988 Could someone help me say this : )   Why would you hurt me ? what do you mean? That’s not a nice thing to say to your girlfriend who is miles away? Niçin beni incitesin? Ne demek isitiyorsun? Senden bu kadar uzakta olan kız arkadaşına söylenecek şey mi bu?   So I have to wait 4 weeks not knowing what your doing or where you are? That is not nice of you. Yani nerede olduğunu ve ne yaptığını bilmeden 4 hafta beklemem mi gerek? Bu hiç de hoş değil.   The owner of the apartment needs an answer today, Shall i say yes? We will rent? From the 30th August? Are you ok to collect me from the airport and move straight in with me? or do i have to travel weekends to Kemer to see you? Apartmanın sahibi bu gün bir cevap bekliyor. Evet diyeyim mi? 30 Ağustos´tan itibaren? Beni havaalanından alacak ve benimle taşınacak mısın? Yoksa hafta sonları Kemer´de ziyaret etmem mi gerekecek? (IS THIS ANY SHORTER )     Yep it is shorter. I hope others will help you too. You cant find me everytime here lucybevan1988 liked this message

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263.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jul 2014 Sun 12:18 pm   Quoting trip "Sarıkız minik buzağıyı sütten kesti mi -- Has the blond girl(name of the cow) weined little heifer?" I should have realized this couldn´t be "has been weaned" just by looking at the verb. Aaaargh! But I was too focused on "sarıkız." It never occurred to me that it was a subject on its own. This shows my dependence on the dictionary, where I found nothing like "sarıkız." Well, I have learned for next time. "-eli means since." This was also puzzling. I couldn´t find it in any suffix dictionary, and I was having no luck trying to break it down on my own. Again I have learned. "Kuzularla oğlaklar sevişiyor mu -- Do the lambs and the goats love each other?" "Oğlak" means young goat, doesn´t it? In English, we would call a young goat a "kid." It is an old word. In English these days "kid," of course, means, first and foremost, young human. Youngsters, teens, kids. Çok teşekkür ederim, gokuyum.  You can learn many things from us. That is why this site is very useful. Instead of demanding a translation, you translate and want us to control it. That is one of the best ways to learn a language. I recommend this to others too   Edited (7/27/2014) by gokuyum trip liked this message

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264.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jul 2014 Sun 12:11 pm   Quoting denizli Are these OK?   1. There were a lot of mountains. Bir çok dağlar vardı.   2. No one liked my Spanish. Hiç kimse İspanyolcamı beğenmedi.   3. Did you speak with Erol? Sen Erol´la konuştun mu?   4. I heard you got in trouble again from mom for listening to Turkish music. Türk müziği dinlediğini için tekrar anneden başına bela gelmişsin. I guess her mother doesnt approve her to listen to Turkish music, right? If so, translation must be like this: Türk müziği dinlediğin için annenle başının tekrar derde girdiğini duydum.

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265.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jul 2014 Sat 08:46 pm I hope this doesnt cause a family tragedy. That is why I didnt translate it. elenagabriela liked this message

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266.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jul 2014 Sat 12:00 am   Quoting lucybevan1988 Ok could you help me translate this. I HAVE BOOKED MY FLIGHT !!! one way!!! so scared –  are you ok to collect me from the airport? Baran i am moving to turkey to live with you, Do you really have to ask me question like this? Does this not show how much i love and adore you? Uçuş biletimi ayırttım !!! Tek yön!!! Çok korkuyorum. Beni havaalanından alman sorun olur mu?Baran seninle yaşamak için Türkiye´ye taşınıyorum. Bana böyle bir soru sormak zorunda mısın? Bu benim seni ne kadar sevdiğimi göstermiyor mu? Its 5 weeks time this will go so fast and we will be together, after my friend losing her boyfriend it makes me realise life is so short and cruel and to appreciate the people who love you. i never want to argue and i want to be excited for our future together.It is heartbreaking seeing my friend lose someone she loves and i can never imagine losing you my love..... we need to appreciate and respect eachother and live each day as if its our last this means no lying to eachother. i want to say i am soooo sorry for how bad i have treated you in the past i want to start again and show you how much i love you and always willl.... 5 haftalık zaman. Çok çabuk geçecek ve birlikte olacağız. Arkadaşımın erkek arkadaşını yitirmesi benim hayatın ne kadar kısa ve acımasız olduğunu ve seni seven insanları takdir etmek gerektiğini fark etmemi sağladı. Hiçbir zaman kavga etmek istemiyorum ve geleceğimiz için heyecen duymak istiyorum. Arkadaşımın sevdiği birini kaybetmesi gerçektende iç burkucuydu ve seni kaybetmeyi hayal bile etmek istemiyorum aşkım... Birbirimizi takdir etmeli, birbirimize saygı göstermeli ve her günü son günümüzmüş gibi yaşamalıyız Bu ayrıca birbirimize hiç yalan söylememeliyiz anlamına da geliyor. Sana gçmişte kötü davrandığım için çok üzgün olduğumu söylemek istiyorum. Herşeye yeniden başlamak ve sana seni ne kadar sevdiğimi ve her zaman seni seveceğimi göstermek istiyorum. I am very confused of your location, one day Izmir then Manavagat now Kemer- if you decide to lie to me this is your choice. Where are you going to be working until i come? If you do not want to live in Lara with me and want to stay where you are now its your choice i will never make you do something? We can meet weekends when i have time off work i can travel to kemer to see you. the decision is yours Baran...But please never say i am slowly forgetting us. I am moving to Lara for you, at the moment you are not showing me love and excitement its sad to see our relationship like this. I am more worried as its been 2 times you have blocked me off facebook since start of our relationship say you do this again before i move say you find another girl or get bored of me? what do you want me to do? I am confused here? Senin bulunduğun yer hakkında kafam çok karışık. Bir gün İzmir sonra Manavgat şimdi de Kemer. Eğer bana yalan söylemeye karar verdiysen bu senin tercihin. Ben gelene kadar nerede çalışmayı planlıyorsun? Eğer Lara´da benimle yaşamak istemiyorsan ve şimdi yaşadığın yerde kalmayı istiyorsan bu senin tercihin. Seni zorlayamam. İşten zamanım kaldığı zaman hafta sonları Kemer´e seni ziyarete gelirim. Karar senin Baran. Ama lütfen asla yavaş yavaş bizi unuttuğumu söyleme. Lara´ya senin için taşınıyorum ama şu an bana sevecenlik göstermiyor heyecan duymuyorsun. İlişkimizi bu durmda görmek üzücü. Ben daha çok endişeliyim çünkü ilişkimizin başlangıcından beri beni iki kez facebookta blokladın. Bunu bir daha yaparsan başka bir kız bulduğunu ya da benden sıkıldığını düşüneceğim. Ne yapmamı istiyorsun? Aklım karışık durumda.     Edited (7/26/2014) by gokuyum Edited (7/26/2014) by gokuyum lucybevan1988 liked this message

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267.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jul 2014 Fri 11:40 pm   Quoting lucybevan1988 Any help will be appreciated   Okay I will translate. But from now on I will not translate if you write more than one pragraph lucybevan1988 liked this message

Thread: Arkadaşım Eşek

268.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jul 2014 Fri 06:07 pm   Quoting trip Here is my try at translating "Arkadaşım Eşek." I am completely guessing on the first two lines of the song, because I don´t understand "göçeli" and "görüşmeyeli." What is this "-eli" ending? Someone told me this is past tense of some sort, but I can´t see how to connect it with the rest of the sentence. That´s where my guessing came in. Another question: In the song, Barış is not using the usual stresses in "arkadaşım," is he? I guess this is because of the cadence of the song, but does that bother native Turkish speakers, or do you just go with it? Teşekkürler!   Arkadaşım Eşek -- My Friend the Donkey Kaç yıl oldu saymadım köyden göçeli -- Many years have passed -- I have not counted -- since I left the village. Mevsimler geldi geçti görüşmeyeli -- Seasons have come and gone since we talked. Hiç haber göndermedin o günden beri -- You have not sent any news since that day. Yoksa bana küstün mü unuttun mu beni -- Were you angry with me, or else you forgot me? Dün yine seni andım gözlerim doldu -- Yesterday again I thought of you and my eyes filled. O tatlı günlerimiz bir anı oldu -- Those sweet days of ours have become a memory. Ayrılık geldi başa katlanmak gerek -- Separation came and it was necessary to endure it to the end. Seni çok çok özledim arkadaşım eşek -- I miss you very, very much, my friend the donkey. Arkadaşım eş arkadaşım şek arkadaşım eşek -- My friend -- eş -- my friend -- şek -- my friend the donkey. Yaban tayları çayırda tepişiyor mu -- Do the wild colts kick at each other in the meadow? Çilli horoz kedilerle dövüşüyor mu -- Does the speckled rooster fight with the cats?  Sarıkız minik buzağıyı sütten kesti mi -- Has the blond girl(name of the cow) weined little heifer? Kuzularla oğlaklar sevişiyor mu -- Do the lambs and the goats love each other?  Uzun kulaklarını son bir kez salla -- Wave your long ears a final time. Tüm eski dostlarımdan bir haber yolla -- Send news from all my old friends. Ayrılık geldi başa katlanmak gerek -- Separation came and it was necessary to endure it to the end. Seni çok çok özledim arkadaşım eşek -- I miss you very, very much, my friend the donkey. Arkadaşım eş arkadaşım şek arkadaşım eşek -- My friend -- eş -- my friend -- şek -- my friend the donkey.    -eli means since. trip liked this message

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269.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jul 2014 Fri 05:57 pm   Quoting lucybevan1988 Thank you so much for your help its much appreciated - i will be renting with 1 other person and my boyfriend- my plan is to rent off this person until we find a place together? will this change translation?   No it doesnt. You can send it. lucybevan1988 liked this message

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270.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jul 2014 Fri 04:28 pm   Quoting Adambawlak Thanks a lot for your reply , but actually i just want to know regarding about turkish law is it possible to make this marrige legal , between muslim and buddhist or they will not accept it , because i heard that turkish can not issue this marrige if it can not be done in our main country , and in my country his marrige it can not be done . please if any one can clear this info for me i would be very greatful .   thanks a lot for your help always    Turkey is a secular country. It doesnt matter if you marry with a budhist. Legal marriages are not religious marriages. If you want a religious marrying you go to a imam after you legally married and ask him to do a religious marriage.

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271.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jul 2014 Fri 04:20 pm   Quoting trip Quote: Gokuyum First of all let me explain what "Halil İbrahim sofrası" means. İbrahim is the another version of the name Abraham. And as everybody know Abraham is a prophet both mentioned in Torah and Quran. He has another name in Quran and it is Halil. Halil means loyal friend in Arabic.  Allah gave this name to him because He accepted him as his friend. Halil İbrahim sofrası means "The dinner table of Abraham" Prophet ABraham was famous with his generousity and he was accepting everybody in need to his dinner table and was giving people plenty of food. And that is why now Halil İbrahim sofrası is a symbole of generousity.   Çok teşekkür ederim, gokuyum! This was just the kind of explanation I was looking for. I know, of course, that the three faiths share Abraham as a prophet, but I wasn´t sure what "Halil" meant. I could never find anything that explained it, so thank you very much. Now some questions: Bazen durur bakarım bu ibret tablosuna -- Sometimes I stop and look at this instructive tableau. My first instinct was to say "I stop and look," but isn´t "durur" the third person singular of the aorist. Is this some kind of construction like -ip?   1)Sometimes we dont use same personal suffix twice in a sentence. We use it with the last verb (bakarım) and we skip the first verb (durur). Kimi tatlı peşinde kimininse tuzu yok -- Some search for something sweet and some have no salt. I guess the "se" on "kimininse" is not an "if" construction. I thought perhaps it was something like "whoever." But my understanding of the conditional is not very strong yet. 2)Yes it is not if. If you put -se after a noun it means "as for". As for some, they dont have salt. Halat gibi bileğiyle yayla gibi yüreğiyle -- With his wrist like a thick rope, with his heart like a high plateau Obviously, this line is poetry, but do these images have any special meaning or resonance in Turkish? If your heart is like a high plateau, does that mean you are distant? You are pure? 3)This is the first time I have heard "yayla yürekli" It gave me a feeling that it is about bravery.   "I like this song of Barış Manço a lot. It is about love, life, death, god, religion and mystism. You should try to translate it too." Yes, "Benden Öte Benden Ziyade" is very beautiful. I like it, too. I will try to translate it this weekend. In the meantime, I will post my translation of "Arkadaşım Eşek." I am having trouble with the first two lines. Perhaps you can help me!  4) Of course. Tekrar teşekkürler!     Edited (7/25/2014) by gokuyum trip liked this message

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272.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2014 Thu 02:16 pm I like this song of Barış Manço a lot. It is about love, life, death, god, religion and mystism. You should try to translate it too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHbAZ94kP-o   trip liked this message

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273.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2014 Thu 01:23 pm First of all let me explain what "Halil İbrahim sofrası" means. İbrahim is the another version of the name Abraham. And as everybody know Abraham is a prophet both mentioned in Torah and Quran. He has another name in Quran and it is Halil. Halil means loyal friend in Arabic.  Allah gave this name to him because He accepted him as his friend. Halil İbrahim sofrası means "The dinner table of Abraham" Prophet ABraham was famous with his generousity and he was accepting everybody in need to his dinner table and was giving people plenty of food. And that is why now Halil İbrahim sofrası is a symbole of generousity. Quoting trip Merhaba! After listening to Mabel Matiz, Teoman, Sıla and others, I have circled around again to my all-time favorite Turkish singer: Barış Manço! Now that I know a little more Turkish, I am trying again to translate some of his lyrics. I´ve made an attempt here to translate "Halil İbrahim Sofrası." As always, your corrections are much appreciated. And I would be interested in any religious or cultural insights you could offer. Teşekkürler! Halil İbrahim Sofrası -- Abraham´s Table İnsanoğlu haddin bilir kem söz söylemez iken -- While mankind was knowing his limits and while not saying evil words, Elalemin namusuna yan gözle bakmaz iken -- While not looking askance at anyone´s honor, Bir sofra kurulmuş ki Halil İbrahim adına -- A dinner table was set in the name of Abraham. Ortada bir tencere boş mu dolu mu bilen yok -- In the middle, an empty saucepan or a full one? There is no one knowing. Bir sofra kurulmuş ki Halil İbrahim adına -- A dinner table was set in the name of Abraham. Ortada bir tencere boş mu dolu mu bilen yok -- In the middle, an empty saucepan or a full one? There is no one knowing. Buyurun dostlar buyurun Halil İbrahim sofrasına -- Help yourselves, friends, help yourselves to Abraham´s table. Buyurun dostlar buyurun Halil İbrahim sofrasına -- Help yourselves, friends, help yourselves to Abraham´s table. Buyurun dostlar buyurun Halil İbrahim sofrasına -- Help yourselves, friends, help yourselves to Abraham´s table. Daha çatal bıçak kaşık icat edilmemişken -- While forks, knives and spoons had not yet been created,  İsmail´e inen koç kurban edilmemişken -- While a ram that came down to Ishmael had not yet been sacrificed, Bir kavga başlamış ki nasip kısmet uğruna -- A quarrel began over one´s share, over destiny. Kapağı ver kulbu al kurbanı ne hiç soran yok -- Give the lid, take the handle. No one asks about the sacrifice. Bir kavga başlamış ki nasip kısmet uğruna -- A quarrel began over one´s share, over destiny. Kapağı ver kulbu al kurbanı ne hiç soran yok -- Give the lid, take the handle. No one asks about the sacrifice. Yıllardır sürüp giden bir pay alma çabası -- A struggle for a share that lasted for years, Topu topu bir dilim kuru ekmek kavgası -- All in all, a quarrel over a slice of dry bread.  Bazen durur bakarım bu ibret tablosuna -- Sometimes I stop and look at this instructive tableau. Kimi tatlı peşinde kimininse tuzu yok -- Some search for something sweet and some have no salt. Bazen durur bakarım bu ibret tablosuna -- Sometimes I stop and look at this instructive tableau. Kimi tatlı peşinde kimininse tuzu yok --  Some search for something sweet and some have no salt.   Ağzı açık gözü toklar buyursunlar baş köşeye -- Let the ones with an open mouth and satisfied eyes  come to the seat of honor. Kula kulluk edenlerse ömür boyu taş döşeye -- May the ones who are slaves to others, spread stones a lifetime Nefsine hakim olursan kurulursun tahtına -- If you control fleshly appetites, you will sit comfortably on your throne. Çalakaşık saldırırsan ne çıkarsa bahtına -- If you charge in eating as fast as you can, you will eat whatever comes in front of you by luck. Halat gibi bileğiyle yayla gibi yüreğiyle -- With his wrist like a thick rope, with his heart like a high plateau, Çoluk çocuk geçindirip haram nedir bilmeyenler -- The ones who look after their family and never does something forbidden. Buyurun sizde buyurun -- Help yourselves, you also, help yourselves. Buyurun dostlar buyurun -- Help yourselves, friends, help yourselves. Barış der her bir yanın altın gümüş taş olsa -- Barış says even if every single side of you is gold, silver and gems, Dalkavuklar etrafında el pençe divan dursa -- Even If you are sorrounded by sycophants with hands folded, Sapa kulba kapağa itibar etme dostum -- Do not show consideration for the handles and the lid, my friend. İçi boş tencerenin bu sofrada yeri yok -- The saucepan that is empty has no place on this table. Sapa kulba kapağa itibar etme dostum -- Do not show consideration for the handles and the lid, my friend. İçi boş tencerenin bu sofrada yeri yok -- The saucepan that is empty has no place on this table. Para pula ihtişama aldanıp kanma dostum -- Don´t be deceived and taken in by wealth and splendor, my friend. İçi boş insanların bu dünyada yeri yok -- People who are empty don´t have a place in this world. Para pula ihtişama aldanıp kanma dostum -- Don´t be deceived and taken in by wealth and splendor, my friend. İçi boş insanların bu dünyada yeri yok -- People who are empty don´t have a place in this world. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZWHbfr9iBs     Edited (7/24/2014) by gokuyum Edited (7/24/2014) by gokuyum Edited (7/24/2014) by gokuyum Edited (7/24/2014) by gokuyum trip liked this message

Thread: Please could someone help me translate something :))))) thank you xxx

274.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Jul 2014 Wed 08:37 am If you write shorter texts you can increase your chance of getting them translated. I believe you can express yourself good enough with a shorter text too if you give some thought to it. I will translate it because it is about your future. I cant ignore this. But keep them short Quoting lucybevan1988 I am so excited to live with you, to share a home with you, to wake up to you everymorning and kiss you goodnight every night, its my dream. Seninle yaşayacak, bir evi paylaşacak , seni her sabah uyandıracak ve her akşam sana iyi geceler öpücüğü verecek olmaktan çok heyecanlıyım. Bu benim hayalim.   I know it is not ideally sharing rent with someone else but it is a good way for me to get to know Lara and for us to search together for our perfect home.... Our future xxx Kirayı bir başkasıyla paylaşmanın ideal olmadığını biliyorum ama bu Lara´yı tanımak ve bizim yaşayacağımız harika evi birlikte araştırıp bulmak için iyi bir yol...Bizim geleceğimizi xxx   It is only 400turkish lira a month this includes all bills WIFI water everything so 200tl each this way we will both be saving lots for our future. we only have to stay there 1 or 2 months until we are ready to move into our own home. it will still be private and i will still be with you so i am sooo happy. Ayda sadece 400 lira ve tüm faturalarla, WIFI, su ve herşeyi kapsıyor. Kişi başına sadece 200 lira. Böylece geleceğimiz için bolca para biriktirebiliriz. Orada yeni evimize taşınana kadar sadece 1 ya da 2 ay kalırız. Seninle böylece birlikte olabileceğim. Çok mutluyum.   It will also save you the stress of finding us a home and saving money for a deposit as we will not need a deposit to stay here.Are you ok to start by renting this place with me? it is only until we are settled and i do not want you stressed.   Bu seni ayrıca bizim için ev bulma ve depozit için para biriktirme stresinden kurtaracak, çünkü orada kalmak için depozit ödememiz gerekmeyecek. Burayı benimle kiralamak hakkında ne düşünüyorsun? Bu senin için uygun mu? Sadece iyice yerleşene kadar böyle yaparız. Senin strese girmeni istemiyorum.   Also we only have small rent we will have more money to go nice places, i will not work weekends and we can explore turkey together at weekends, you can take me to Kemer i can meet all your friends and we can sleep there all weekends i am so excited Az kira ödeyeceğimiz için güzel yerlere gitmek için paramız olacak. Hafta sonları çalışmayacağım birlikte Türkiye´yi keşfedebiliriz. Beni Kemer´e götürürsün ve böylece arkadaşlarınla tanışırım ve haftasonları orada uyuruz Çok heyecanlıyım.   PLEASE do not be sad, we have a great future ahead of us. We now have a cheap room to rent and i have my dream job all we need to do is find you a job when your ready I love you soooo much never forget that ...... i will be your family soon and i will support you all i can.... i love you ... Lütfen üzülme önümüzde harika bir gelecek var. Şimdi kiralıyabileceğimiz bir odamız var ve hayalini kurduğum bir işe sahibim. Tek gerekli olan şey hazır olduğunda sana bir iş bulmak. Seni çoook seviyorum. Bunu sakın unutma. Yakında seninle bir aile olacağız. Seni elimden geldiğince destekleyeceğim. Seni seviyorum.   Let me know your ideas on this apartment for 400tl and i can confirm we will have it until we find somewhere... the other person will stay in there room so we will never see them...... xxxx Bu 400 liralık daire hakkında fikrini bana bildir. Böylece ben de onu kiralama konusunda onay vereyim. Öbür kişi başka odada kalacak ve biz onu hiç görmeyeceğiz...xxx       I translated it but I dont understand that will you rent there with your boyfriend or with someone else? Because in your text you mention another person. If you give me information. I can translate it better. lucybevan1988 liked this message

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275.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jul 2014 Tue 06:28 pm   Quoting denizli 2 questions later came to my mind.   1. If the ´i´ is also used to specify that something is definite, how do we do this with ´ye´? Is it by using ´bir´ (bir is ´a´ and no bir is ´the´? Mağazaya Gittim. Could be I went to ´a store´ or ´the store´?   2. Bengü´ye ne anlattın makes sense rather than Bengü´yü ne anlattın. But I got it from here http://www.turkishdictionary.net/?word=anlatmak it says: /ı/ to relate, tell.   They are indirect objects. You can use "o" to specify them. O mağazaya gittim. I went to that store. denizli liked this message

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276.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Jul 2014 Mon 02:58 am   Quoting nessah         Erkek olsaydım, sevdiğim kadın dolabı her açtığında ´sen her halinle güzelsin´ yazısıyla karşılaşırdı. If I was a man, my beloved would always see the note "You are beautiful in every way" every time she opened the wardrobe. Evdeyim diye yalan söyleyip 10 dakika sonra aşağıda seni bekliyorum diye mesaj atardım. Ağlatmazdım. ağlıyorsa tutup göğsüme basardım. I would lie to her saying that I was at home and 10 minutes later I would send her a message saying that I am waiting you downstairs. I would never make her cry and if she was crying I would hold her in my arms. On...u sevdiğimi sürekli söyler, hatırlatırdım. I would always say that I love her and I would make her remember that. Sorunlarımız olduğunda kestirip atmak yerine geçecek hepsi derdim. When we had problems instead of not minding them, I would say all of these will pass. Kalbini paramparça edeceğimi bilsem de, onu kandırmak yerine her şeyin gerçeğini delikanlı gibi söylerdim. Even it would break her heart into pieces, instead of deceiving her, I would always tell the truth like a man. Bi sebepten erkek olamadım. böyle bir erkek olsaydım eğer, beni tanıyan kadın benden sonra kimseyle mutlu olmazdı. I couldnt be a man, if I were, the woman who knew me would never be happy with another man after me. Belki de bu sebepten böyle bir erkek hiç yaratılmadı... And maybe because of this, a man like this has never been created.     Edited (7/21/2014) by gokuyum nessah liked this message

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277.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Jul 2014 Mon 02:38 am   Quoting trip Merhaba! I just found the most beautiful song! It is "Pişman Olduğun Zaman," and this version is sung by Mabel Matiz. But I also see that it has been sung by Sezen Aksu. Can someone tell me who originated the song? Does it really belong to Sezen Aksu? I have tried to translate the lyrics. I have done some guessing, so please correct me. And below is a link to Mabel Matiz´s version of the song. So sad, so beautiful! Pişman Olduğun Zaman -- When You Regret yolun zorunu yürümüştüm ben tanıştığımız zaman -- I had walked a road of difficulties when we met. sen dalgalanmaktaydın elvan elvan -- You were waving  changing colors o yüzden tam olarak hissedemedin sen içimi -- For that reason you could not sense as fully my inner self.  hala kulağımda çınlıyor alaycı kahkahan -- Your derisive loud laugh still rings  in my ears. haberin yoktu henüz cilvesinden aşkın -- You had no knowledge yet of love´s vagaries. sarsılmıyordun hiç ay tutulmasından -- You were not being shaken by any lunar eclipse. o kadar taşkın, o kadar açtın ki; -- You were so hungry, so wild that düşmen kaçınılmazdı arzın ortasından... -- Your falling was inevitable, from the middle of the earth ...   pişman olduğun zaman, -- When you regret,  zevke doyduğun zaman, -- When you are fed up with pleasure, huzur bulduğun zaman, -- When you find peace, dönebilirsin -- You can return. ben yine burada olacağım, -- I will still be here, yaralarını saracağım, -- I will bandage your wounds, seni anlayacağım... -- I will understand you ... http://www.izlesene.com/liste/pisman-oldugun-zaman   Here is the Sezen Aksu version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHrxj4kNMrg trip liked this message

Thread: please from e-t

278.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Jul 2014 Mon 02:27 am   Quoting elena1987 Please tell  uncle i send my love and i miss him. Tell aunt Semra  and  Fatma my children and I send lots love and  we miss them so much. Thank you all for your love and kindness, i always remeber your kindness and love  in my heart..Allah bless you and all your family..   Thank you so much translator, i really appreciate so much   Lütfen amcaya ona sevgilerimi gönderdiğimi ve onu özlediğimi söyle. Semra teyzeye/halaya ve Fatma´ya ben ve çocuklarımın ona çok çok sevgiler gönderdiğimizi ve onları çok özlediğimizi söyle. Sevgin ve kibarlığın için çok teşekkürler. Her zaman sevgini ve kibarlığını hatırlayacağım. Allah seni ve aileni mübarek kılsın. KediNero liked this message

Thread: T to E

279.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Jul 2014 Mon 02:21 am This is a very broken Turkish. I guess the sentence is "Türkiye´ye geldiğinde görüşelim" Lets meet when you come to Turkey. dagda liked this message

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280.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jul 2014 Sat 12:51 am   Quoting nessah     Çok şey vardı anlatılacak, o yüzden sustum. Birini söylesem diğeri yarım kalacaktı sen duydun mu sustuklarımı?   There were many think to tell because of that I was quiet. If I said one of them, the other would be incomplete. Did you hear what I was quiet about?

Thread: what do you advice me? ?

281.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jul 2014 Fri 08:56 am   Quoting Miss.Rahaf Can i be relied in English in Turkey in all areas ?!     I dont think so.

Thread: I need you to help me in correcting me with my grammar.

282.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Jul 2014 Thu 02:54 am   Quoting leepabi I am going to translate my online store into Turkish and I really need your help to correct me. My online store is just very small.     1.) English:        An online store you can trust with because we are using Paypal as our payment method and we are selling cute, affordable and quailty.      Turkish: please correct      Bir online mağaza bizim ödeme yöntemi olarak Paypal kullanarak ve biz, sevimli, uygun fiyatlı ve nitelikleri satıyoruz çünkü güvenebilirsiniz.   Güvenebileceğiniz online bir mağaza çünkü biz ödeme yöntemi olarak Paypal kullanıyoruz ve sevimli, uygun fiyatlı ve kaliteli ürünler satıyoruz.

Thread: Could anyone translate this for me, please?

283.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2014 Wed 05:00 am   Quoting Timsi iki yüzlü insan pazar tezgahı gibidir öne iyilerini koyar arkası hep çürüktür   A two-faced man is like a bazaar bench. He puts the good ones in front but others behind are all rotten.

Thread: Help to Solve these Questions

284.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2014 Wed 04:53 am   Quoting GulBahar Selamlar... Can any one please help me to solve these queestions.   Thanks in advance.   Here are the choices   These are my answers: 2. aylardır 3. girdiğimden beri 4. görmeyeli 5.almayalı 6.günlerdir 7.zamandır 8.taşındığımdan beri 9. sınavdan beri 10. 10´dan beri 11. seyrettim seyredeli 12. evlendiğimizden beri 13. kazandığından beri 14. tanıyalı 15. 2002´den beri 16. aydan beri 17. başladım başlayalı 18. buluşmamızdan beri 19. bitireli 20. kalktığımdan beri 21. gelmeliyi 22. tanıyalı 23. iki gecedir 24. verdim vereli 25. günlerdir   Thanks in advance     GulBahar liked this message

Thread: T to E plus attempt

285.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2014 Tue 06:39 pm   Quoting KediNero Gokuyum, i only said what i think. i am not native speaker, but i always try to give answer when people ask.   But i think it sound very weird to say çaldığım için bana teşekkür etti. it´s sound better without bana, cause we already said çaldığım için.   I am not judging you. I am just telling there is no mistake.   KediNero liked this message

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286.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2014 Tue 06:32 pm   Quoting denizli Are these OK?   1. What did you tell Bengu! Ne Bengü´yü anlattın! Bengü´ye ne anlattın?   2. Somehow she found out I was listening to Sila. Bir şekilde, Sila´yı dinledim öğrendi. Bir şekilde Sıla´yı dinlediğimi öğrenmiş.   3. Bengu said I can´t act as if nothing happened. Hiçbir şey olmamış gibi hareket edemiyorum, Bengü dedi. Bengü, hiçbir şey olmamış gibi davranamam dedi.   4. She thanked me for playing her music in Colombia. Onun müziğini Kolombiya´da çaldığım için bana teşekkür etti.

Thread: T to E plus attempt

287.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2014 Tue 06:28 pm   Quoting KediNero   of course you won´t say müziğini çaldığım için bana teşekkür etti. it sound ridicoulus. Müziğini çaldığım için teşekkür etti is correct.   some links: http://www.turkishclass.com/turkish_lesson_299 http://www.turkishclass.com/turkish_lesson_297 http://www.turkishclass.com/turkish_lesson_300 http://www.turkishclass.com/turkish_lesson_302 http://www.turkishclass.com/turkish_lesson_305 http://www.turkishclass.com/turkish_lesson_311 http://www.turkishclass.com/turkish_lesson_327 http://www.turkishclass.com/turkish_lesson_328 http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_58342 http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_58343 http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_58935 http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_58974     Why do you think it is ridicoulus kedinero? It is correct.   Edited (7/15/2014) by gokuyum denizli liked this message

Thread: Can someone please translate this for me?

288.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2014 Tue 05:31 am I am taking your pass Tunci Quoting 1634society Seninle tanistigim gunden beri umrumda olmadigin tek bi gun bile olmadi benim icin, hayatimdaki yerin hicbi zaman baskasiyla esit  olmadi. Benim hakkimda ne dusundugunu bilmiyorum, ama ben sana nasil hissettigimi soyluyorum. Biz birbirimizi cok uzun zaman cok uzduk didim. I said that we had upsetted each other for a long time. Bitek sen yaptin da demedim ben hic bi zaman, benim de ne kadar hatali oldugumu ve seni uzdugumu biliyorum. I have never said it was only your fault. I know that I had many mistakes and I know how much I upsetted you. Ve ben seninle 4 yilimi gecirdim, sen senden cok sey ogrendim diyosun ama ben de senden cok sey ogrendim, ve hic tatmadigim bi mutlulugu yasadim. I spent 4 years with you. You say that you have learnt a lot of things from me but I also have learnt a lot of things from you. And I exprienced a happiness that I had never exprienced before. Ama ayni zamanda son zamanlarda hissettigim kadar da degersiz hissettirilmemistim hic bi zaman. But meanwhile I have never been felt this much worthless recently. Ben bunun intikamini almiyorum, sana her zaman soyluyorum, benim aklimda seninle ilgili tek bi kotu bi dusunce bile olmadi olmaz da, cunku sen benim icin cok degerlisin ve ben sadece senin mutlu olmani isterim. I am not taking revenge. I always say you that I have never had any bad thought in my mind about you and I will not have. Because you are very valuable for me and I only want you to be happy. Bugun tartismasaydik sana hediyelerinin beni ne kadar mutlu ettigini soyliycektim, butun herseyi bu kadar dusunerek yapisini hic hak etmedigimi soyliycektim. If we hadnt argued today, I was going to say how much your presents had made me happy and that I was not worthy of your thoughtfulness. Ama biz her gunu yine birbirimize laf ederek gecirdik idilcim, biz hic boyle olmamistik. But we spent every day with arguing my dear İdil, we have never been like this. Ben hayatimin sensiz daha guzel olduguna karar falan vermedim, hic bi zaman da oyle olmadi. Benimle hep nefrettigin biseymis konusuyosun, umarim bu gunun birinde degisir. Iyi geceler tatli ruyalar. I didnt decide that my life is more beautiful without you. And it never was. You always talk to me like I am something that you hate. I hope this will change one day. Good nights, good dreams.     Edited (7/15/2014) by gokuyum tunci liked this message

Thread: E to T + Attempt

289.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2014 Tue 04:54 am   Quoting denizli Thankyou, I better remember this next time. But then something I´m unsure about. Since ´i´ is used to denote the object, could there not be some ambiguity, when we are dealing with 2 indefinite things. Since Turkish has a flexible ordering of words. In my example, it is clear the cactus is the object since it could not be the one who saw us. But in this example: Bir Amerikalı bir Türk gördü. How do we know if the Turk saw the American or the American saw the Turk?   Turkish is flexible but your example doesnt give any space to flexibility. Every Turk will think that "bir Amerikalı" is subject and "bir Türk" is object. Because you cant put an indefinite object before a subject in a sentence. denizli liked this message

Thread: this is wonderful ....

290.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2014 Tue 12:47 am Meh   Edited (7/15/2014) by gokuyum Edited (7/15/2014) by gokuyum Kotb liked this message

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291.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2014 Tue 12:46 am Sevgilim, Gerçek şu, benim değilsin Söz bitmiş, gözlerin terk-i diyarında Sen aşktın, sığındığım sakin limandın Bu gemi çok su aldı, batsın   Darling The truth is you are not mine. Words are finished, your eyes are looking far away You were the love, you were the calm harbor I took refugee in This ship has taken a lot of water, let it sink. Edited (7/15/2014) by gokuyum Edited (7/15/2014) by gokuyum Kotb liked this message

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292.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2014 Tue 12:45 am Sevgilim, Seninle benden bıktım Sıfırdan başlamak hazin tekrar Ne yarsın, ne dostsun, ne arkadaşsın Beni kendinden çıkarmışsın   Darling I am bored of you and me It is sad to start again You are not a lover, not a friend, not a fellow It seems you took me out from you Edited (7/15/2014) by gokuyum Kotb liked this message

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293.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2014 Tue 12:39 am Yalanı dolanıyla Zararı ziyanıyla Kapandı aşk, bir sayfa daha (Kapandı bir sayfa aşk daha) Severek unuturum Yeniden aşık olurum Severim Ama güvenemem ki   With all the lies With all the harms Love was closed, another page too (Another page of love was closed) I forget by loving I can fall in love again I can love But I cant trust. Kotb liked this message

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294.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2014 Tue 12:34 am Geçmişe ait hiçbir şey konuşma İnsanım, hata ederim, yanılırım Ben artık senin hiçbir şeyin değilim Seninle aşk gözümde kalsın   Dont talk about anything belonging to past I am a human, I make mistakes, I am mistaken From now on I am nothing to you Let the love with you stay in my eyes. Kotb liked this message

Thread: this is wonderful ....

295.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Jul 2014 Mon 05:57 pm   Quoting denizli     I gave the first section a try:   My darling, You have lost me from now on I ripped your love from my heart  For whoever you want, open a place in your heart Let happiness stay in your shadow.       Kotb and denizli liked this message

Thread: E to T + Attempt

296.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Jul 2014 Sun 11:59 pm   Quoting denizli If someone gets the chance, hope to hear if these are OK?   1. We are not going to Bogota this time. Bu sefer Bogota´ya gitmeyeceğiz.   2. We saw cactus on the way to Pasto.  Pasto´ya giderken kaktüsü gördük. (Kaktüs is not a definite object in this sentence. If it was definite, your sentence would be correct. "The" would make it definite. But there is no "the" in your sentence.You should study definite and indefinite objects. http://www.turkishlanguage.co.uk/defarts.htm If you want to make kaktüs plural instead of adding ler/lar, use birçok. Pasto yolunda birçok kaktüs gördük.   3. Did you hear the girl singing in the street last night? Dün gece  sokakta şarkı söyleyen kızı duydunuz mi?   4. I am staying here for one more week. Burada bir hafta daha kaliyorum.     Edited (7/14/2014) by gokuyum Edited (7/14/2014) by gokuyum Edited (7/14/2014) by gokuyum denizli liked this message

Thread: Grammatical puzzle -- for me at least :)

297.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Jul 2014 Sun 04:45 pm   Quoting trip   This is all very confusing to me, because I think I really know this construction only in the form of "-eyim" and "-elim." Or "let me" and "let us." If I´m understanding you correctly, this is what my old Turkish grammar book calls the "present optative-subjective verb form." I have to admit I didn´t pay close attention to this lesson because it said that the first person singular and first person plural (which I already knew from a Turkish Class lesson on the imperative) were used, but that other forms were not so much. (For instance, in third person, "anlasın" -- or the third person imperative -- would be used more, yes?) So, I was very familiar with "-eyim" and "-elim," but I didn´t worry about "-esin." But that´s where that extra "a" and the buffer y come from, yes? This was what I was not recognizing. So the construction is "anlaya-" (which is the gerundive, not the verb root) plus "-sın." And this "present optative-subjective verb form" expresses "may" or "might." So my puzzling sentence becomes something like "Who understood it that you might (or should) understand it?" In a more literal form, I mean. Your translations make much more sense, gokuyum. Türkçe çok zor! See how hard I have to think about all this! And I still may be confused. Yardımın için teşekkür ederim.    As you say we dont use this subjunction mood a lot but there are some expressions like this one where we use it. anla-y-ayım anla-y-asın anla-y-a anla-y-alım anla-y-asınız anla-y-alar Edited (7/13/2014) by gokuyum Edited (7/13/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: Grammatical puzzle -- for me at least :)

298.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Jul 2014 Fri 01:58 pm   Quoting trip "Kim anlamış ki sen anlayasın böyle?" Merhaba! I found this line in a song, and from context, I think it means something like: "Who thought that your understanding would be like this?" But please correct me, and please explain what is going on here grammatically.  Is "anlamış" the indefinite past? And what is "anlayasın"? I cannot figure out this ending. It´s not a possessive, is it? I see "sen" but not "senin." I´m stuck. İmdat! Çok teşekkür ederim!  That sentence means "Nobody has understood it, how can you understand it?" Another translation would be like this: "Who has ever understood it, yet you think you understand it?"   anlayasın is the second person of the subjunctive mood  (istek kipi) http://www.turkishlanguage.co.uk/submood.htm   Edited (7/11/2014) by gokuyum trip liked this message

Thread: her ne kadar

299.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jul 2014 Thu 02:23 am Here is my theory: When her and ne comes together "her" starts to act differently. It functions like "ever" in the "what ever"   Her ne yaparsan yap, beni durduramazsın. What ever you do, you cant stop me.   It continues to function in the same way in "her ne kadar" unlike English.. A literal translation would be like this: "how much ever". But such an expression unfortunately doesnt exist in English   Edited (7/10/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: Tavuk şiş

300.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jul 2014 Thu 02:10 am   Quoting ikicihan şiş kebap. et or tavuk, doesnt matter, both delicious.   I advice Adana kebap. Eating chicken create digestion problems in my stomach. I digest it after drinking one litre cola.

Thread: how to speak the tailing ´r´ ?

301.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jul 2014 Thu 02:06 am   Quoting yuwen Merhaba!   I´m quite confused about the sound of "r" when it´s the last letter in a word.  For example,  bir,  from video, it sounds like "beesh" for me.  How to speak the tailing "r´?   Thanks. It is an urban myth. Just a sound illusion

Thread: Kabir / mezar...

302.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jul 2014 Wed 11:53 pm I think there is no difference. But it is better to ask deads if there is any Edited (7/9/2014) by gokuyum Edited (7/10/2014) by gokuyum elenagabriela and tunci liked this message

Thread: yerleştirelim!

303.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jul 2014 Tue 02:03 pm   Quoting Drbiljana çarpmak / hasar / ifade almak / karşı taraf / kaskolu poliçe / rapor tutmak / şerit / şikayetçi olmak / tamir ettirmek / yola çıkmak   TRAFİK KAZASI Gün iyi başladı. Saat 7de uyandım. Ellimi, yüzümü yıkadıktan sonra biraz gazeteşere baktım. Kahvaltı yaptım ve evden çıktım. İşe gitmek için arabama bindim. Garajın önünde bir kamyon vardı. Sahibini aradım ama yoktu. Bir süre bekledim. On dakika sonra geldi. Benden bir özür bille dilmeden gitti. Ben de işyerime doğru yola çıktım. Çok hızlı gitmiyordum. Birden önüme yaşlı bir adam çıktı. Adama çarpmamak için frene bastım ve o anda arabama arkadan başka bir araba çarptı. Arabadan indim. arkadaki arabanın sahibi yanıma geldi ve bana "Siz suçlusunuz hanımefendi çünkü aniden durdunuz" dedi. Ben de ona "Hayır, siz suclusunuz çünkü bana arkadan çarptınız" dedim. O sırada trafik polis geldi. İfade aldı. Olay yerini inceledi ve bir rapor tuttu. Bu kazada kesinlikle karşı taraf hatalıydı. Yine de ben ondan şikayetçi oldum. Arabada da önemli bir şerit yoktu. Ayrıca arabam hasar. Kaza yerinde iki saatim geçti. Saat 10,30´da iş yerime gittim. Akşam işten çıktıktan sonra tamircide arabamı tamir ettirdim. Ama fatura konusunda başka bir sürpriz beniğ bekliyordu. Çünkü kaskolu poliçe süresi dolmuştu. Tamircinin parasını kendim ödedim.   P.S. This is a little different. İs this way ok or not ?   Nope. There are mistakes.

Thread: yerleştirelim!

304.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jul 2014 Tue 12:57 pm   Quoting Drbiljana çarpmak / hasar / ifade almak / karşı taraf / kaskolu/ poliçe / rapor tutmak / şerit / şikayetçi olmak / tamir ettirmek / yola çıkmak   TRAFİK KAZASI Gün iyi başladı. Saat 7de uyandım. Ellimi, yüzümü yıkadıktan sonra biraz gazeteşere baktım. Kahvaltı yaptım ve evden çıktım. İşe gitmek için arabama bindim. Garajın önünde bir kamyon vardı. Sahibini aradım ama yoktu. Bir süre bekledim. OOn dakika sonra geldi. Benden bir özür bille dilmeden gitti. Ben de işyerime doğru yola çıktım.. Çok hızlı gitmiyordum. Birden önüme yaşlı bir adam çıktı. Adama çarpmamak için frene bastım ve o anda arabama arkadan başka bir araba çarptı. Arabadan indim. arkadaki arabanın sahibi yanıma geldi ve bana "Siz suçlusunuz hanımefendi çünkü aniden durdunuz" dedi. Ben de ona "Hayır, siz suçlusunuz çünkü bana arkadan çarptınız" dedim. O sırada trafik polis geldi. İfade aldı.. Olay yerini inceledi ve bir rapor tuttu.. Bu kazada kesinlikle  karşı taraf hatalıydı. Yine de ben ondan şikayetçi olmadım. Arabada da önemli bir hasar yoktu. Ayrıca arabam kaskoluydu. Kaza yerinde iki saatim geçti. Saat 10,30´da iş yerime gittim. Akşam işten çıktıktan sonra tamircide arabamı tamir ettirdim. Ama fatura konusunda başka bir sürpriz beniğ bekliyordu. Çünkü kasko poliçesinin süresi dolmuştu. Tamircinin parasını kendim ödedim.   P.S. At first it seems like a very simple task, but İ couldn´t fill all the blanks     Edited (7/8/2014) by gokuyum Drbiljana liked this message

Thread: Öteki -- Mabel Matiz

305.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jul 2014 Tue 12:45 pm   Quoting trip Merhaba! I have tried to translate a Mabel Matiz song. Parts of it seemed very difficult to me, so I´m sure I have some things wrong here. Yardımınız için teşekkür ederim.  Öteki -- The Other Parlak salonlarınızdan -- Your bright living rooms Kirli mutfaklarınızdan -- Your dirty kitchens Binbir çıkmaza çıkan daracık koridorlarınızdan -- Your narrow corridors leading to a thousand and one dead ends Hele döl tutmayan zihni kaygan yatak odalarınızdan -- Especially your slippery minded(?) bedrooms that don´t hold offspring Çok sıkıldım çok sıkıldım -- I´m so bored with them, so bored. Şekerlerinizden -- Your sweets Uçan balonlarınızdan -- Your flying balloons Kuru sıkı patlak korkak yaman silahlarınızdan -- Your blank-shot, burst-open, cowardly, terrible weapons  Dinmek bilmeyen keyfî karın ağrılarınızdan -- Your arbitrary stomachaches that don´t know how to cease Çok sıkıldım çok sıkıldım -- I´m so bored with them, so bored Hangi kan affeder bayım -- Sir, which blood pardons Kalbinizdeki kini -- the rancor that is in your heart? Hangi gök temize çeker -- Which sky makes a clean copy Ellerinizdeki kiri -- of the dirt on your hands? Bir tutam ya da birkaç tomar -- A small handful or several piles? Ah yalan bu, ne fark eder -- Ah this is lie, what difference does it make? Kahrınızın küllediği şer -- The evil which your opression covers with ashes. Hangimizi yakar -- Which of us does it burn? Hangimiz öteki -- Which of us  is the other?   First of all some sentences dont make a lot of sense to me but I guess this is his style. And secondly in Turkish sıkılmak wants its object to be in ablative form (-den,-dan). But we cant translate it that way to English. We cant say "I am bored from" in English I guess. So I think that is why you omitted all those -den/-dan suffixes in the song.     Edited (7/8/2014) by gokuyum Edited (7/8/2014) by gokuyum trip liked this message

Thread: t2e

306.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Jul 2014 Mon 01:41 am   Quoting nessah bazı şeyleri geçer sanıyoruz, içimizde büyütüyoruz sonra içimizi öldürüyor o şeyler. bizi günden güne öldürüyor. en kötüsü, kimse fark etmiyor. ağlıyorsun, içine atıyorsun her şeyi bir gün dayanamayıp ölüyorsun. ama içindekiler bırakmıyor seni onlarda seninle geliyor. yaşamaya başlayayım diyorsun, iyileşeyim diyorsun ama o içindeki yaralar iyileşmiyor, onları kimse sarmıyor. onlar hep acıyor,onlar hep kanıyor. onlardan kimsenin haberi yok,ölüyorsun kendi kendine iyileşiyorsun. ve bu hep devam ediyor. We think some things will pass easily, then we make them grow inside us, then those things kill our soul. They kill us day by day. The worst thing is nobody notices that. You cry, you endure in silence, but one day you cant stand anymore and you die. But the things inside you dont let you go, they come with you too. You think I should start to live, I should get better but those wounds inside you dont heal, nobody attends to them, they always give you pain and they always bleed. Nobody knows this, you die and then you heal by yourself and this always goes on.   Edited (7/7/2014) by gokuyum Edited (7/7/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: T2E

307.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Jul 2014 Mon 01:34 am   Quoting nessah Ve sevgilim, sana gelince: Eğer bir gün uğrarsan sol göğsümün altındaki kente, hüzünlü bir sesle: ”Buralar bir zamanlar hep benimdi” diyeceksin kendine….   And my love, as for you If one day you come to visit the city under the left side of my chest, you will say to yourself with a sad voice: "These places were all mine once" Edited (7/7/2014) by gokuyum raydin liked this message

Thread: T2E

308.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Jul 2014 Mon 01:30 am   Quoting nessah Dünyadaki bütün insanlardan sadece bir tanesi seni tamamlar. Geriye kalanlar kendini yalnız hissetmemen için varlar…   In the whole world only one person completes you. The others only exist for you not to feel lonely. nessah liked this message

Thread: please translate

309.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Jul 2014 Sun 10:13 pm Bir Kürt adamla sounds weird. Just say : Bir Kürtle... denizli liked this message

Thread: What does olduğunu mean?

310.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Jul 2014 Sun 10:06 pm A simple example:   Deli olduğunu biliyorum. I know that you are crazy.   deli : crazy ol(mak): to be duk: adjective verb -un : possesive -u: accusative   Literally it means "I know your being crazy" Edited (7/6/2014) by gokuyum Edited (7/7/2014) by gokuyum sweetalmond liked this message

Thread: T2E

311.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Jul 2014 Sun 09:57 pm   Quoting nessah sevgilim? soru işareti, çünkü orada mısın bilmiyorum. orada mısın? kiminlesin, üşüyor musun merak ediyorum. bu havalar üşütüyor. merak ediyorsan eğer bende üşüyorum. ama havalardan değil. yokluğundan. My love? Question mark because I dont know if you are there. Are you there? I wonder who you are with and if you are cold. This weather makes you cold. If you wonder too I am cold too but not because of the weather, because of your absence. edebiyat d...eğil bu. ciddiyim. yokluğun üşütüyor beni. hayatımda hiç kalmadığım kadar çaresiz bırakıyor bu sensizlik beni. This is not fancy talking. I am serious. Your absence makes me feel cold. Being without you makes me desperate than ever. gariptir ki, sensizlikte bile seninleyim ben. seninle uyuyorum yine, sana sarılıyorum gün içinde. seni düşünmek bile tam şurada göğüs kafesimde canlandırıyor birkaç ölüme yüz tutmuş kelebeği. It is weird that in your absence I am still with you. I am still sleeping with you, I am still hugging you. Even thinking about you revives a few almost dead butterflies in my chest.   yine merak ediyorsan eğer, yanımda, ellerimde kimse yok. çünkü biliyorum ki senin yarattığın o -muhteşem- boşluğu başka bir insan dolduramayacak. o yüzden ki, ben hala bilmediğim kokuna sarılıp arşınlıyorum sensiz bu sokakları. And if you wonder too, there is noone with me, noone is holding my hands. Because I know that noone will be able to fill the great emptiness you created. Because of that I am walking around these streets without you embracing the smell of you wich I still dont know. akşam oldu sevgilim. günün en gereksiz kısmı bitti. ne yazık ki ben seni en çok geceleri hatırlıyor, geceleri özlüyor ve en çok geceleri seviyorum. hala seninleyim, biliyorsun. It is evening now my love. The most unneccessary part of the day is now ended. Unfortunately I remember you, miss you and love you mostly in the evenings. I am still with you, you know that. seni çok özlüyorum. I miss you a lot.   o muhteşem gülüşünün tam ortasından öpüyorum I am kissing the middle of your magnicifient smile (?) 1/10   Edited (7/6/2014) by gokuyum Edited (7/6/2014) by gokuyum nessah liked this message

Thread: Puzzling line

312.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Jul 2014 Sun 09:21 pm   Quoting tunci     You got it almost right if there was not important spelling error in the critical point [ seperating conjunction -de [da] ]  Because , it is attached to the word it confused you. It looked like a case ending [locative], but in fact it is a conjunction and functions as something like " as long as ". So, lets seperate that "de " by not touching your initial translation. "Kalbin kırılmasın da üzerinde kir pasak olsun." "As long as your heart is not broken, let there be dirt and filth on it " In other words, the poet says, its better having  dirt and filt on your heart than having it broken. I think he doesnt mean the heart dear tunci. He says as long as your heart is not broken let thre be dirt and filth on you. That is my interpretation.   Edited (7/6/2014) by gokuyum trip and tunci liked this message

Thread: T2E

313.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Jul 2014 Tue 09:29 pm   Quoting tomac In the last sentence, could "çocuk" here mean not only literally "child" but also "young man" / "guy" ? Can "çocuk" be used in this meaning in Turkish?   Yeah you are right. Also maybe writer calls him a child because of his childish behaviors. I dont know. I dont want to use my brain for that tomac liked this message

Thread: Please help

314.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Jul 2014 Tue 07:03 pm   Quoting Eagle3 what is diferrent between these two sentences  iki yataklı oda istiyorum  iki kişilik oda istiyorum    and how can I say to a taxi ( could you take me to nearest hotel ) ? in turkish  I want a room with two beds I want a room for two people   Beni en yakın otele götürür müsünüz? Edited (7/1/2014) by gokuyum Edited (7/1/2014) by gokuyum Eagle3 liked this message

Thread: T2E

315.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Jul 2014 Tue 06:58 pm   Quoting nessah Bir insan, sabah kalkar kalkmaz tuvalete gitmeye üşendiği halde, telefonu yatağın kenarında arayıp sana "günaydın" yazıyorsa, ve senden cevap gelmeyince; işi vardır herhalde diye düşünüp bir daha mesaj atıyorsa.. Parası olmadığı halde; yanına gelmek için sağdan soldan borç para isteyip, yanına geliyorsa.. Seni her defasında sevdiğini söyleyip, bunu da her zaman tekrarlıyorsa.. Sevmeyip de ne yapacaksın bu çocuğu diye sormazlar mı sana? If a person who is even lazy to go to touilet as soon as he wakes up, sends you a good morning message on phone and when an answer doesnt come from you, if he sends another message thinking you are busy and when he doesnt have money, if he borrows money and come to you and if he says that he loves you and repeat it always...Wouldnt people ask you what you can do with this child other than loving him? tomac liked this message

Thread: E + T my attempt

316.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jun 2014 Mon 07:03 pm   Quoting denizli     I like the double-muş unutmuşmuşsun [unutmuş-muşsun] - you had forgotten (apparently)   Is this uncommon for people to talk like that? i.e. would that be a bit complex and not used in conversation too often?   We use double muş rarely. It is used to complain about something or to express your disaproval and also to make fun of something. ex: Ödevini yapmayı unutmuşmuş. (You are disaproving it )   tunci and denizli liked this message

Thread: E + T my attempt

317.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jun 2014 Mon 09:10 am   Quoting halturklondon     thank you very much for your reply. Can I ask what this miş suffix is please? and is where anywhere where I can learn it?   thanks very much miş is a past tense suffix. We use this past tense when we talk about an action that happened in the past but we didnt witness it. We heart or read about it but we didnt see it. Ex: İstanbula gitmiş. She went to İstanbul. (We heard this from someone else) But when miş and ti comes together(mişti) it becomes a new tense (past perfect tense) and miş loses its function. You can learn about it here: http://www.turkishlanguage.co.uk/pasttense.htm   Edited (6/30/2014) by gokuyum Edited (6/30/2014) by gokuyum denizli liked this message

Thread: E2T

318.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jun 2014 Sun 12:46 pm   Quoting am_1010 How do you say in Turkish: "And so, it begins!"     Teşekkür ederim. İyi günler ve Ramazan Mübarek arkadaşlarım! Ve işte başlıyor.

Thread: E to T + attempt

319.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jun 2014 Sun 07:25 am   Quoting denizli I don´t really understand 3) and 4). Any links to explain would be appreciated. I suspect 4) has something to do with plural. In English we can´t say ´I bought tire´. But we can say ´I bought tires´. Is this only for certain verbs?   3. Turkish ice cream is the best. Türk dondurması en iyisi. a)Türk dondurması is an undefined noun clause. That means the second word has to have a suffix. Here are other examples: kapı kolu, çöp kutusu, tren istasyonu, otobüs durağı. b) It is "en iyisi" because "en iyisi" is a part of a noun clause too. "Tüm dondurmaların en iyisi" You see? But we omitted "tüm dondurmaların" because it is understood without saying it.   4. I bought new tires. Yeni lastikler aldım.   It is not about being plural or not. If you say "lastikleri" you make "lastikler" defined. It is the same thing with saying "the tires" in English. It would be correct if the sentence was: I bought the new tires. But there is no "the" in your sentence so there is no need to make "lastikler" defined. The singular of your sentence would be like this: "Yeni lastik aldım." denizli and tomac liked this message

Thread: Is my English to Turkish correct please

320.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jun 2014 Sat 12:33 pm   Quoting halturklondon I´m not sure if I will get a message back but I´m wanting to send a brief message to a Turkish girl asking if they are basically ´seeing´ my boyfriend. I am 95% sure that they are but I want it confirmed. As I´ve said I´m not sure if I will get a reply but I´m wanting to at least try. What I want to say is:   ´are you in a relationship with Teyfik?´ Now I have translated this in to Turkish as: ´Teyfik ile bir ilişkide misiniz?´   Thanks every much in advance

Thread: translation needed !! please

321.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jun 2014 Sat 07:36 am   Quoting Drbiljana   ADAYLARIN İZLEYECEĞİ YOL The Way Which Candidates Will Follow  ÖSYM kayıtlarında geçerli bir fotoğrafınız(1) var mı? Do you have a valid photo in OSYM records?  Evet Yes Başvuru, bireysel olarak İnternet üzerinden yapılabilir. You can apply indevidually on internet. 1): Geçerli Fotoğraf: Son 30 ay içerisinde ÖSYM tarafından yapılan bir sınava bir başvuru merkezi aracılığıyla başvuru yapmış ve başvuru aşamasında fotoğrafı başvuru merkezi görevlisi tarafından çekilerek Merkezimiz kayıtlarına alınmış adaylar ile son 30 ay içerisinde herhangi bir nedenle bir başvuru merkezinden fotoğraf güncellemesi gerçekleştirmiş adayların Merkezimiz kayıtlarındaki fotoğrafı geçerli fotoğraftır. 1. Valid Photo: It is the photo that was taken in last 30 months in one of our application centers by an official during the application process or the photo which was updated in the last 30 months in an application center with any reason. (2) Sınav Başvurma süresi içerisinde kılavuzda belirtilen bankalardan(2) birine, ya da www.osym.gov.tr internet adresinde bulunan "ÖDEMELER" başlığı alanından kredi kartı/banka kartı ile sınav ücretini yatırınız. 2. During the application process, pay into one of the banks that was stated in documents or you can make an online payment using a credit card in the Payments section in www.osym.gov.tr Ücretinin Yatırılabileceği Bankalar: T.C. Ziraat Bankası, T. Halk Bankası, Akbank, Denizbank, Kuveyt Türk Katılım Bankası, TEB, Tüm PTT Şubeleri The banks which you can pay into:  T.C. Ziraat Bankası, T. Halk Bankası, Akbank, Denizbank, Kuveyt Türk Katılım Bankası, TEB, Tüm PTT Şubeleri 25 Diş Hekimliği Alanında Yurtdışı Yükseköğretim Diploma Denkliği İçin Seviye Tespit Sınavı (Sonbahar Dönemi) 2014-STS DİŞ HEKİMLİĞİ Sonbahar Dönemi 14.09.2014 15.07.2014 25.07.2014 ÖSYM Sınav Koordinatörlükleri, www.osym.gov.tr   Application dates seem between 15.07.2014 and 25.07.2014. Exam date is 14.09.2014       You need to have an account on OSYM site. I dont know how you get it. Possibly they create it in an application center. So go ask for it. If you dont have a valid photo on your account, take an appointment during the application period  and go to one of the application centers of OSYM and make your application there. They will also take your photo. But before you go there make your payment and fill the form. For example this is the form for the spring exam. I couldnt find the form for fall exam. That means it is still early. http://dokuman.osym.gov.tr/pdfdokuman/2014/STSDiS/STSDISABF1422014.pdf   Here is the application centers: http://www.osym.gov.tr/dosya/1-63490/h/als-basvuru-merkezleri.pdf Edited (6/28/2014) by gokuyum Edited (6/28/2014) by gokuyum Edited (6/28/2014) by gokuyum Drbiljana liked this message

Thread: Object participle, -ma, -me, -diği, -dıgı difference

322.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jun 2014 Sat 07:12 am   Quoting mindola Hi, I write an exmaple. Please explain the difference, why, which is correct what they mean.   1.) Teyzemin kardeşimin odasında uyumasi istemiyorum. 2.) Teyzemin kardeşimin odasında uyuduğunu istemiyorum.   [I don´t want my aunt to sleep in my friend´s room] Different verbs want different suffixes. Ex: Arabayı çalıştırmanı istiyorum. I want you to start the car. Arabayı çalıştırdığını biliyorum. I know that you started the car.     tomac and KediNero liked this message

Thread: Object participle, -ma, -me, -diği, -dıgı difference

323.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jun 2014 Sat 07:08 am   Quoting KediNero   Your sentences are not correct.   You can say: Teyzem arkadaşımın odasında uyusun istemiyorum. Teyzemin arkadaşımın odasında uyumasını istemiyorum.   it´s not possible to translate them literaly, but that´s how it works in Turkish   Your Turkish is impressive kedinero.   KediNero liked this message

Thread: E to T + attempt

324.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jun 2014 Sat 07:06 am   Quoting denizli Are these OK?   1. They went to Phoenix last weekend. Geçen hafta sonu Phoenix´e gittiler.   2. They will return next Tuesday. Sonraki salı dönecekler.   3. Turkish ice cream is the best. Türk dondurması en iyisi. 4. I bought new tires. Yeni lastikleri aldım. There is no "the" in the sentence then "lastikler" is not defined. It should be translated as: "Yeni lastikler aldım."     denizli liked this message

Thread: T to E - Sila lyrics

325.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jun 2014 Sat 07:01 am   Quoting denizli Hope this translation is OK? Sila - Zor Sevdiğimden ... İyi günde buradasın, dar günde yoksun neden?  Güler ömür, ağlar ömür  Farkında olmayız geçer ömür.  ...   You are here in a good day, but why are you absent in a bad day? Life laughs, life cries. We do not realize that life passes.

Thread: T2E

326.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jun 2014 Fri 11:19 am   Quoting nessah thanks sweety     Always nessah liked this message

Thread: pls translate \"duam belli duyan belli\" in english

327.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jun 2014 Fri 09:47 am   Quoting abhishek     My prayer is known, "the one who hears it" is known. Edited (6/27/2014) by gokuyum

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328.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jun 2014 Fri 09:30 am   Quoting nessah         Sevgili olmayalım biz. Lets not be lovers. Tüm gün konuşalım, hep birbirimizi özleyelim ama sevgili olmayalım. Lets talk all day, lets always miss eachother but lets not be lovers. Balık tutalım sonra tuttuğumuz balıkları geri dökelim denize. Lets catch fish but then lets put them back into the sea. Birbirimize karışalım, kıskanalım, kavga edelim, küselim, barışalım ama sevgili olmay...alım ne olur. Lets interfere each other, lets be jealous, lets fight, lets not talk, lets make peace but lets not be lovers please. Beraber gelecekle ilgili hayaller kuralım, saatlerce telefonda konuşalım, sinemaya gidelim, sahilde el ele dolaşalım ama sevgili olmayalım biz. Lets dream about future, lets talk on phone for hours, lets go to the cinema, lets walk on the beach holding hands but lets not be lovers. Sen başka kızlarla, ben başka erkeklerle konuşmayalım. Don´t talk with other girls and I wont talk with other men. Tek biz olalım ama sevgili olmayalım. Lets be only us but lets not  be lovers. Bak sevgililer hemen ayrılıyor, aşklar hemen bitiyor. Look lovers get seperated quickly, loves end quickly. Sen hemen bitme, hemen gitme. Don´t end quickly, dont go quickly - Benim ol ama sevgilim olma ... Be mine but dont be my lover.   nessah and harp00n liked this message

Thread: turkish to english pls :)

329.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jun 2014 Tue 10:03 pm   Quoting denizli     After seeing all this on this board, I thought this was normal in Turkey?   I dont know. Maybe I like to be direct

Thread: turkish to english pls :)

330.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jun 2014 Tue 05:40 am   Quoting * Lamda* bu arada,ben senin başına kötü birşey gelmesini hiç istemem.Senin başına gelecek kötü şeyler bana gelsin,sana değil..bana uzaksın ama ben seni hep merak ediyorum,ister istemez endişeleniyorum.Bazı geceler giriyorsun rüyalarıma,aniden uyanıyorum ve aklıma sen geliyorsun.Yanlış anlama,çünkü başına birşey gelmesinden korkuyorum.Bilmiyorum nedenini.Ne kadar uzak olursak olalım,ben sana çok yakın hissediyorum...Seninmasum gülüşün Dünya´yı ısıtıyor.Bunun farkında mısın?? Meanwhile I really dont want anything bad happen to you. May they happen to me instead of you. You are away from me but I am always curious about you and I worry for you. Some nights you come to my dreams and suddenly I wake up and remember you. Dont misunderstand me because I am really afraid of something bad happens to you. I dont know the reason. No matter how far we are to each other, I feel very close to you. Your innocent smile warms the world. Do you know that?   gülüşün hiç bitmesin,çünkü insanlık senin gülüşüne muhtaç...Daha fazla uzatıp başını ağrıtmak istemiyorum.Çünkü seni anlatmaya hiçbir kelime yetmiyor...Dünya´da ki tüm dillerin kelimelerini toplasam,onlar bile yetersiz kalıyor işte...Geçtiğin yollar,sokaklar sana hayran kalıyor.Adeta bir şenlik havası yaratıyorsun gittiğin yerlerde.Herkes sana imrenerek bakıyor.Tabiat ana bile sana imrenerek bakıyor...Herşey senin yaratılışını kıskanıyor adeta...Diyorum ya,hiçbirşey seni anlatmaya yetmiyor işte.... May your smile never end because humanity is in need of your smile. I dont want to talk much and bore you. Because words are not enough to describe you. Even if I could gather all the words of the all languages, they would not be enough. The roads and streets you pass admire you. You create an atmosphere of a festival. Everbybody look at you by admiring. Even the nature does so. It is as if everything is jealous of your existence. As I say, nothing is enough to describe you.   .....Τhank you   Love letter? It is too romantic for my taste. I would just write I love you and do you love me? Edited (6/24/2014) by gokuyum Edited (6/24/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: translation please

331.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Jun 2014 Mon 06:33 am I found a poem of same poet that was written after the death of Rustem Pasha. It is very interesting. I will translate the third part of the poem:   Al-i Osmanı kıran itdi ol imanı yaman That infidel destroyed the family of Ottoman Biri birisine girdi nitekim ab-ı revan One fought against other like a river. Ehl-i imandan akan kan ile toldı Karaman Karaman was filled with the blood of the faithful people. Bir dem içinde dem-i ademe gark oldı cihan In a moment world sank into human blood. Rüşvet altununı cem itmek idi işi heman His job was always to gather bribe money. Derdmend eyler idi encüm-i nahs ile kıran   Kanı ol mala tapan mezheb-i Karuna uyan Where is now that worshipper of fortune and follower of Korah? Enbiya sevmedügini seven aşub-ı zaman Where is now that instigator who likes what prohophets dont like? Haber-i mevti melul itdi beni hayli zaman The news of his death made me sad for a long while Korkar idüm bu şadi haberi ola yalan Because I was afraid of that this happy news was a lie. Yıkılup gitdi ol evkaf-ı selatini yıkan The  one who demolished the foundations of sultans got demolished. Mal-ı eytamı alup mescidi meyhane yapan The one who used to take the possessions of orphans and turn mescids into taverns. Her denlü yaramazlık var ise anda idi He had all the bad manners that exists. İki ayağı çukurda bir eli kanda idi His two feet were in a pit and one of his hand was in blood. Edited (6/23/2014) by gokuyum Edited (6/23/2014) by gokuyum Edited (6/23/2014) by gokuyum Edited (6/23/2014) by gokuyum tunci liked this message

Thread: E to T + attempt

332.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jun 2014 Sun 07:21 pm "Hollnda´nın gollerini beğendim" sounds better. mehmet108 liked this message

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333.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jun 2014 Sun 05:21 pm Were you not the one who said to me love demands effort? denizli liked this message

Thread: University in Turkey

334.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jun 2014 Sun 01:08 pm   Quoting harp00n What about 19 Mayıs ?   I love my university

Thread: T to E + Attempt

335.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jun 2014 Sun 02:53 am   Quoting denizli Thank you, hopefully that is pointing me in the right direction: ... Sen değil miydin bana aşk emek ister diyen Ben değil miydim sana kalbiyle suçsuz gelen Şimdi vazgeçtin yani bunu mu söylüyorsun Sen de çok sevdin biliyorsun ...   My attempt:   Were you not the one who said loving me was painful Was I not the one who came to you with an innocent heart Now you have given up, is that what you are saying You know that you also loved Yes way better now. "Emek istemek" means "to demand effort". Were you not the one who said love demands effort?   denizli liked this message

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336.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Jun 2014 Sat 08:00 pm   Quoting denizli Elveda lyrics/Bengü ... Sen değil miydin bana aşk emek ister diyen Ben değil miydim sana kalbiyle suçsuz gelen Şimdi vazgeçtin yani bunu mu söylüyorsun Sen de çok sevdin biliyorsun ...   Did you not say wether loving me was painful Did I not come to you with an innocent heart Now you have given up, is that what you are saying You know that you also loved     What tense is gelen and diyen?   gelen and diyen are adjective verbs.   1) If they come before a noun they describre the noun.   Eve gelen çocuk  The child who comes to home Dur diyen adam  The man who says stop   2) If they dont describe a noun in a sentence then they function as a noun.   Gelene merhaba de. Say hello to the one who comes Diyene bak. Look at the one who says (that)   3) They dont have tenses. Only when we translate them to English, we choose a tense for them according to what sentence means.   Dün gelenler kimlerdi? Who were those who came yesterday? Buraya çok gelen oluyor. A lot of people come here.           Edited (6/21/2014) by gokuyum Edited (6/21/2014) by gokuyum Esra98 liked this message

Thread: What´s the difference between these sentences ?

337.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Jun 2014 Sat 07:38 pm   Quoting GulBahar     Oh my Godness! Really! I´ve always thought that verbs with -me suffix are considered nouns... As there translation is ´my going´ which is a noun.  Please correct me if I´m mistaken.    I didnt understand your question. Can you be more specific?

Thread: University in Turkey

338.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Jun 2014 Sat 03:01 am   Quoting Kgreen Hi, I´m an American girl, but I´m currently dating a Turkish guy. I´m seriously considering going over there for university, and I would live with him while doing it, but I really don´t know anything about the education system.  My concerns: Comparable quality to the education in the U.S. Cost of university Variety of available degrees Type of visa required College life...?   I certainly hadn´t considered going to university in Turkey before I met my boyfriend, but I´m quite an adventurous person and I think the experience of being with him and experiencing the culture in such a way would be very unique. Any comments appreciated! Thanks! Most of the universities in Turkey are goverment owned and they are free. Also there are other universities you pay for. The best univerties in Turkey are in Ankara, İstanbul and İzmir. In some of these universities education language is English like Boğaziçi university and METU. These are the best universities and they are goverment owned. Here are the link of universities: http://www.allaboutturkey.com/university.htm

Thread: E to T please

339.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Jun 2014 Fri 06:23 pm   Quoting Polyglot kedinero can please explain why its görüşmuştum, and not just görüştum? Thank you so muchh   Both of them are correct. It is a matter of choice. Polyglot liked this message

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340.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Jun 2014 Fri 06:16 pm It is similar to past perfect tense in English.   Onu gördüm means I saw her. Onu görmüştüm means I had seen her Polyglot liked this message

Thread: TR - to -EN

341.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jun 2014 Thu 04:24 pm   Quoting Drbiljana Can someone please break down this sentence for me :   Örneğin geçen gün torunuma otuz yıl öncesinin ütülerini anlattım.     Örnek + in ( genitive ) > For example geçen > last gün > day torun + um (poss 1.sing) + a ( dative case ) > to my nephew otuz > thirty yıl > years öncesi + n +in >  ????? look below ütüler + i (poss 3.sing)  + n + i (acc. case ) > ????? yes accusative anlat + tım ( geçmiş zaman 1. sing ) > İ explained   I will answer your questtion with examples. "Arabanın kapısı" is a defined noun clause. In a defined noun clause both words have suffixes. -(n)ın suffix is modifier, and -sı suffix is modified. Now look at this example: Arabanın kapısının kolu   I added another word to the noun clause. To do that I put a modifier suffix after -sı and of course I put the modified suffix (-u) after the third word "kol" I can add another noun doing the same thing.   Ex: Arabanın kapısının kolunun rengi   Note: There are other types of noun clauses too. You can read about them here: http://www.turkishclass.com/turkish_lesson_68

Thread: E to T + attempt

342.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jun 2014 Thu 04:38 am   Quoting denizli Here are a few safe ones. Are these OK?   1. Why don´t you go to Seferihisar? Niçin Seferihisar´a gitmiyorsun/gitmiyorsunuz?   2. This will help me. Bu bana yardım edecek.   3. Colombia is bigger than Turkey. Kolombiya Türkiye´den daha büyük.     denizli and KediNero liked this message

Thread: What´s the difference between these sentences ?

343.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jun 2014 Wed 10:18 pm   Quoting Moamen Oh and aboit that last sentence of mine, i apologize for my negligence I was meaning to say  Sinemaya gitmemi istiyor. I believe i saw this on a web site. Iyi gunlar !   He/she wants me to go to cinema. Literally it means "He/she wants my going to cinema". "My going" can be used here. This i suffix makes the object accusative. The verb istemek wants object to be accusative here. Now you can ask why we cant say "Sinemaya gitmemi istiyorum". My answer is I dont know. That is not the way we say it in Turkish. We say "Sinemaya gitmek istiyorum".   Edited (6/18/2014) by gokuyum Moamen liked this message

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344.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jun 2014 Wed 10:13 pm   Quoting Moamen That was very informative, it has changed my understanding of the DIK suffix which obvously was incomplete. I was way off target. So from what I´ve understood,  Both the DIK suffixed and the main verbs have objects.  In the sentence above, "beni sevdiğini" is the object of "biliyorum" just like in english. Yes it is object of the biliyorum. And "beni" is the object of "sevmek".   So basing on my current understanding, to say :   Beni gördüğün yeri bilyorum.   Would be the Türkçe for:   I know the place where you saw me Hopefully i got it right this time   Yes correct. Once again, thank you for your thorogh answer.     Moamen liked this message

Thread: correct?

345.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jun 2014 Wed 09:35 pm   Quoting KediNero Gokuyum, doesnt it mean me and my beautiful friends?   güzel arkadaşlarım ile ben=me and my beautiful friends çok sevdiğim arkadaşlarımla beraberim sound more better i think   Thats my try   Btw you already asked same question 4 times Yeah you are right. I focused on only a part of sentence. I didnt see "I am with". I do this very often. I am getting old     Edited (6/18/2014) by gokuyum Edited (6/18/2014) by gokuyum Edited (6/18/2014) by gokuyum KediNero liked this message

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346.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jun 2014 Wed 09:31 pm   Quoting Moamen Thank you for your reply Gokuyum. But i don´t understand.  I mean, i have read that the noun that is deacribed by the DIK suffix should go after it, for example Oturduğum ev budur NOT Ev Oturduğum budur Also Ta ki doğduğnuz yere dönünce kadar NOT yere doğduğunuz So why in the above sentences these rules don´t apply?   And how about these  Söylediği sözleri beğeniyorum Could it be put this way? Sözleri söylediğini beğeniyorum   Thanks again.  I understand what you mean. I will explain you shortly why it doesnt apply to your sentences.   1. "Ben aradigim neyi aslinda bilmiyorum"   Using "ne" is not correct here. Instead of it you should use "şey". Ben aradığım şeyi aslında biliyorum. Şey means thing. The problem with your sentence is you are trying to use "ne" as a noun in this sentence but you cant use it that way.     2-    "Sevdigin beni bilmiyorum"   This is not correct because you cant use sevdiğin here as an adjactive. Why? Because ben must be the object of sevmek here. I dont know that you love me. You see me is object. Your sentence in English would sound like this "I dont know me who you love". It is meaningless in English too.   3-   "gitmem istiyorum"  I said no difference before but now I notice that you wrote "gitmem". This is wrong. You are using a possesive suffix here. Gitmem literally means "my going". Your sentence means "I want my going". But you cant say this in Turkish. There are two verbs in this sentence "to go" and "to want". So one of them must be infinitive like in English. I want to go. Gitmek istiyorum.But in Turkish we say "my going is necessary(gitmem gerek)" or "my going is important (gitmem önemli)" In English instead of saying "my going is necessary", they say " It is important that I go" This is a difference between English and Turkish.   Edited (6/18/2014) by gokuyum GulBahar and Moamen liked this message

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347.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jun 2014 Wed 08:58 pm   Quoting am_1010 English: I am with my lovely friends.   Turkish: Benim güzel arkadaşlarım ile ben.   Güzel arkadaşlarım ile birlikteyim.                                                                                             Edited (6/18/2014) by gokuyum Edited (6/18/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: What´s the difference between these sentences ?

348.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jun 2014 Wed 07:59 pm   Quoting Moamen Hi, I have recently finished going thru a Turkish grammar teaching website, however, when I reading a story, I came across a couple of confusing patterns, at least for me.    Could you please tell me what´s the difference between these sentences ?   1-  "Ben neyi aradigimi aslinda bilmiyorum" VS "Ben aradigim neyi aslinda bilmiyorum"    these too, First one is gramatically correct other one is not. Also it is not understandable.   2-    "Beni sevdigini biliyorum" VS "Sevdigin beni bilmiyorum"   First one is gramatically correct other one is not.   and finally, these   3- "Beni gitmek istiyorum" VS "gitmem istiyorum"  First one is correct second one is not.     Also, what does this two words sentence mean   "dedigi gibi" as he/she said or as he/she says   Thank you for you help !     Edited (6/18/2014) by gokuyum Moamen liked this message

Thread: E to T my attempt!

349.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Jun 2014 Tue 11:28 pm   Quoting tomac I agree - I just wanted to point out a rather small mistake which I think you made in "You could also apologize in Turkish.". Every native speaker and advanced learner here helps us, learners, when pointing our (sometimes hopeless) mistakes, so I thought it may be useful if I point mistake to someone who already helped me. Birbirimize yardım edelim! No only we Turks can point out others´ mistakes

Thread: Turkish movie/TV series with Turkish subtitle

350.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Jun 2014 Tue 11:23 pm   Quoting ikicihan similarly i used to watch english movies with english subs. here is my method. i find good movies with english subtitle available. in this case you should find turkish movies with turkish subtitle available. check: http://divxplanet.com/altyazi/ then after finding subtitle i find the movie in divx format and download it. visit torrent sharing sites and install utorrent program in order to download. http://thepiratebay.se/ in the end i put the movie and subtitle side by side and watch it in the target subtitle. it might be any language whatever you want to read and hear. attention: fps (frame per second) should be same with movie and subtitle. prefer single part movies, i mean one movie and one subtitle containing the whole movie.   I do the same thing. That is why I didnt forget my English after graduating from high school. By the way my English was the best in my class but it is avarage in this site Edited (6/17/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: Oynamaca

351.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Jun 2014 Tue 11:19 pm   Quoting tomac Hi all   Recently, I came across word "oynamaca", in context of playing with children. I suppose that as "bulmaca" means "crossword puzzle" and "bilmece" means "word puzzle" then perhaps "oynamaca" simply means playing with someone or in some game? Is this correct? Also, when looking for translation of this word, I found explanation that "-ca, -ce" suffix appended to verbal nouns (bulma, gelme like in bulması, gelmem) is used to create kind of diminutive form of noun which can be used to speak to children. Is this true as well? Oynamaca sounds like a made up word.  But  this -ce,-ca suffix has the function you mentioned above. For example you can hear a teacher saying the children who are playing in the garden: "Koşmaca yok".   tomac and tunci liked this message

Thread: Turkish to english, lütfen.

352.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Jun 2014 Tue 01:47 pm   Quoting KediNero   Quoting Gulumyavrum Günaydin,   what exactly does "canimin ta(m?) icisin" means?   Thanks for helping.   -G     I dont know how to translate it. Literally it means "You are the exact inside of my soul". It means you are the dearest for me. Gulumyavrum, tomac, tunci and KediNero liked this message

Thread: Asking a stranger for help

353.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Jun 2014 Tue 01:44 pm   Quoting KediNero   affedersiniz is correct, you can´t use pardon and özür dilerim in such situation.     Why not? I use all of them tomac and KediNero liked this message

Thread: Billboard

354.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jun 2014 Mon 10:05 pm Spammers?

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355.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Jun 2014 Sat 08:04 pm   Quoting daid can anyone translate this ? thanks  ölüm ardıma düşüp de yorulma var git ölüm bir zaman da gene gel akıbet alırsın komazsın beni var git ölüm bir zaman da yine gel O death! Dont make yourself tired coming after me Go o death and come again another time In the end you will take me and will not let me go Go o death and come again another time çıkıp boz kurtlayın ulaşamadım (not bozkurt it is bozkırlar) yalan dünya sana çıkışamadım eşimle dostumla buluşamadım var git ölüm bir zaman da yine gel   I couldnt reach to steppes going out I couldnt scold you o liar world. I couldnt meet with my family and friends Go o death and come again another time   karac´oğlan der ki konup göçerken ecel şerbetini tas tas içerken yine buldum beni senden kaçarken var git ölüm bir zaman da yine gel Karacaoğlan says while I was settling and migrating While I was drinking the drink of death with cups You have found me again while I was escaping from you Go o death and come again another time. That is a very nice folk song. I first heared it in Magnificent Century and liked it a lot. Here is the link of the song: Death of Prince Beyazid   Edited (6/14/2014) by gokuyum Edited (6/14/2014) by gokuyum Edited (6/14/2014) by gokuyum Edited (6/14/2014) by gokuyum daid liked this message

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356.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Jun 2014 Sat 08:00 pm   Quoting denizli Is this OK? Do you know Sibel Can´s song "Galata"?   Sibel Can´ın şarkısı "Galata"yı biliyor musun?     denizli liked this message

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357.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Jun 2014 Fri 11:58 pm   Quoting KediNero   bazı insanlar çok akıllıdır=some people are very smart Arkadaşlarımdan bazıları çok akıllı=some of my friends are very smart   why did i said akıllıdır in first and akıllı in second sentence? Because it´s the fact that some people are very smart and you can´t change it, in second sentence i only said that my friends are very smart, i am not 100% sure about that.   you won´t say az paralarım var, az param var is correct. Çok az param var is also correct. Çok param yok=az param var   But not sure if az can be used always. az arkadaşım var (Does it sound correct)  i think it would be more correct to say birçok arkadaşım yok.     Bence öyledir, ama doğruyu söylememiş olabilirim.     Az arkadaşım var is correct. Instead of "birçok" use "çok". Çok arkadaşım yok.     KediNero liked this message

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358.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Jun 2014 Fri 06:45 pm   Quoting KediNero Yes i think çok albümleri var is also wrong, i did not pay attention on that. You already said çok so it´s wrong to use it in plural. You won´t say beş kardeşlerim var, it´s wrong. You would say beş kardeşim var   Çok albümleri var and beş kardeşleri var is correct if it is third person plural.   Ex: Onların çok paraları var. (they) Onun çok parası var. (he)

Thread: pls translate

359.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Jun 2014 Wed 07:10 pm Maybe someone can translate them. But there is nothing important. We call it geyik muhabbeti. That means empty talk. http://tureng.com/search/geyik%20muhabbeti

Thread: Gokuyum´s Test 2

360.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Jun 2014 Wed 11:08 am "Rüzgar tersine döndü" means "Wind started to blow in opposite direction" That means everything started to change to opposite. Edited (6/11/2014) by gokuyum Tehlikeli22 liked this message

Thread: Gokuyum´s Test 2

361.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Jun 2014 Wed 10:59 am   Quoting KediNero   Quoting gokuyum Wrong answers again please. Natives please dont interfere.   1)Her maçın başka bir ______vardır. a)romanı b)hikayesi c)atmosferi d)tadı e)zevki   2)Saç renginle çok_______ kendini beğenmişsin demektir. a)oynuyorsan b)ilgiliysen c)barışıksan d)mutluysan e)duyarlıysan   3)Yorgunluğunuzun________ bunlar olabilir. a)nedenleri b)hedefleri c)sebebleri d)amililleri e)etkenleri   4)Limonatanın hiç bilmediğiniz________ şunlardır. a)yararları b)zararları c)ayarları d)faydaları e)çeşitleri   5)_________ rüzgar tersine döndü. a)seride b)çeyrek finalde c)dolabta d)evde e)iş yerinde     1a 2e 3b 4c 5c   Edited (6/11/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: Gokuyum´s Test 2

362.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Jun 2014 Wed 12:07 am   Quoting tomac My try - although I admit that most of them are guesses:   1)Her maçın başka bir ______vardır. a)romanı << this one b)hikayesi c)atmosferi d)tadı e)zevki   2)Saç renginle çok_______ kendini beğenmişsin demektir. a)oynuyorsan b)ilgiliysen c)barışıksan << this one d)mutluysan e)duyarlıysan << and this one   3)Yorgunluğunuzun________ bunlar olabilir. a)nedenleri b)hedefleri << this one c)sebebleri d)amililleri << this one e)etkenleri << and this one   4)Limonatanın hiç bilmediğiniz________ şunlardır. a)yararları b)zararları  c)ayarları << this one d)faydaları e)çeşitleri   5)_________ rüzgar tersine döndü. a)seride b)çeyrek finalde c)dolabta << this one d)evde << this one e)iş yerinde << and this one   Only one wrong answer for each question tomac

Thread: Gokuyum´s Test 2

363.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jun 2014 Tue 10:30 pm Wrong answers again please. Natives please dont interfere.   1)Her maçın başka bir ______vardır. a)romanı b)hikayesi c)atmosferi d)tadı e)zevki   2)Saç renginle çok_______ kendini beğenmişsin demektir. a)oynuyorsan b)ilgiliysen c)barışıksan d)mutluysan e)duyarlıysan   3)Yorgunluğunuzun________ bunlar olabilir. a)nedenleri b)hedefleri c)sebebleri d)amililleri e)etkenleri   4)Limonatanın hiç bilmediğiniz________ şunlardır. a)yararları b)zararları c)ayarları d)faydaları e)çeşitleri   5)_________ rüzgar tersine döndü. a)seride b)çeyrek finalde c)dolabta d)evde e)iş yerinde   Edited (6/10/2014) by gokuyum GulBahar liked this message

Thread: Translation T to E

364.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jun 2014 Tue 10:09 pm   Quoting tomac According to http://www.turkishdictionary.net/?word=bunca this means "for such a long time".   My try as learner would be: Why didn´t you tell us for such a long time, and brought so much trouble on us? A small contribution from me   Tehlikeli22, tomac and raydin liked this message

Thread: Gokuyum´s Test 1 :)

365.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jun 2014 Mon 11:16 pm Find the wrong answers   1. Araba ______  gidiyorum a) -ya b) ile c)-da d)-sız e) -m   2. Sen beni __________üzüyorsun a) çok b) hep c) hiç d) neden e) niye   3. Ben______ Ankaraya giderim ________ İstanbula giderim. a. ne - ne b. ya - ya c. pazartesi - cumartesi d. hep - hiç e.yazın - kışın   4. Sen ___________ gideceksin a. çok b. neyle c. kimle d. ne zamanla e. ne amaçla   5. Seni ______ çok üzücü a. görememek b. duyamamak c. öpememek d. gelememek e. dövememek KediNero, tunci and GulBahar liked this message

Thread: My English to Turkish

366.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jun 2014 Mon 11:00 pm   Quoting halturklondon Thank you both of you. Can I just ask that although mine was obviously wrong, was it understandable?    thanks once again Dont rush and be patient. It is a hard job to form a sentence in Turkish for a beginner. Too many suffixes to put   raydin liked this message

Thread: Please help :)

367.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jun 2014 Mon 10:57 pm   Quoting Tash9104 Thank you all for your help... My friend gave me this translation... Eger bir erkege anlayabilecegi bir dilde konusursan aklina,onun kendi dilinde konusursan kalbine girersin Both are very different... Could someone let me know what my the translation my friend gave me actually says? Your friend´s translation is very good. It says "if you speak to a man in a language he can understand you will enter his mind, if you speak to him in his own language you will enter his heart."

Thread: My English to Turkish

368.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jun 2014 Mon 08:51 pm   Quoting KediNero   Bir gün ben böyle olacağım.     Yep. But literally: Bir gün bu ben olacağım. KediNero and halturklondon liked this message

Thread: İs this correct please - Turkish to English

369.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jun 2014 Mon 11:44 am   Quoting halturklondon Fidan´s wedding - Fidan´ın düğünü  or Fidan´ın düğün   many thanks   It is Fidan´ın düğünü If there is a suffix after first word (Fidan´ın), the second (düğünü) always has a suffix too. Edited (6/9/2014) by gokuyum Tehlikeli22 and halturklondon liked this message

Thread: yalnızlarım / yalnızım ?

370.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Jun 2014 Thu 09:11 pm   Quoting KediNero   yalnızım=(i am alone/i am lonely) yalnızız=(we are alone/we are lonely) yalnızlar (they are alone/they are lonely)   yalnızlarım, i guess it mean something like ah yalnız arkadaşlarım benim=yalnızlarım benim (my lonely friends or my lonelies).   Yep.

Thread: help me please

371.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Jun 2014 Wed 04:46 pm   Quoting Kotb can you please translate this for me !!!   Bir insanı seveceksen onda bulduğun "sen" için seveceksin çünkü ondaki "sen" başka  hiç kimsede olamaz. Ezbere sevmeyeceksin, neden sevdiğinin bir yanıtı olacak sende.    If you are going to love a person, you will love her because of the "you" which you will find in her. Because that  "you" in her cant be found in anybody. You will not love blindly, you will have the answer of why you love her. Güzeldi, sevdim diyerek geçiştirmeyeceksin. Güzel olan neydi, onu sorgulayacaksın  çünkü güzeli sevmek kolay, zor olan içine sen karıştığında güzelleşeni bulmak.  You will not just say I love her because she is beautiful. You will question what is beautiful. Because it is easy to love the beautiful, what is difficult is to find the one who gets beautiful when you are mixed within her. Çok fazla insanı sevebilir, hayatına katabilirsin. Onların hiçbirinin içinde bir "sen"  olmayabilir. Senin işin bir sen daha bulmak. Şimdi sevmek için birini bul ve güzel  diyerek sevme onu. İçinde sen olan biri olsun. Seni onda bulmanın tadını çıkar. İşte o  sevgiye doyum olmaz. You can love many people and include them into your life. But there may not be a "you" in none of them. Your job is to find another you. Now find someone to love but dont love her just because she is beautiful. Let her be someone who has you in her. Have the pleasure of finding yourself in her. That love is priceless.   I hated this text Edited (6/4/2014) by gokuyum Edited (6/4/2014) by gokuyum Tehlikeli22, tomac and Kotb liked this message

Thread: short translation from turkish to english...

372.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Jun 2014 Wed 04:36 pm   Quoting svetlana83 Merhaba...   Can somoene help me to understand this sentence please ? Yes I can but will I? "sensizlık beni kor yaptı, sensiz bir hayat düşünemezken sen her konuşmada beni sensiz biraktin. Yarım kaldım yarım… Yarım" Being without you has made me a coal. When I couldnt think a life without you, you left me alone in every speech. I remained half (without you). çok teşekkür ederim,     svetlana83 liked this message

Thread: \"-a/-e\" or \"-ıp/-ip\"

373.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Jun 2014 Wed 02:08 pm   Quoting hanja Hi, I have an exercise to fill the gaps with "-a/-e" or "-ıp/-ip". For example: Ahmet gel... git... sorular soruyor. Geçen yılki soğuklarda düş... kalk... işyerine kadar gittim.   Can someone expain this to me?  Thanks! Gelip gidip, düşe kalka I am sure other members who are more intererested in Turkish grammar will give you a long explanation. Here is my explanation : These are adverbs. They are telling us how the action happens.  When you ask the verb how, the answer will be these adverbs. ex: soruyor means "he/she is asking". Lets ask how is he/she asking? Answer: gelip gidip. That means "by coming and going" . It means he/ she comes and then goes often to ask the question.   düşe kalka means "by falling down and standing up". This means "with a lot of difficulty" in Turkish.    If you want to be able to put the correct suffixes you should learn how to use these adverbs by reading about them.   Edited (6/4/2014) by gokuyum Tehlikeli22, tunci and elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: 3 sentences from turkish --> english

374.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Jun 2014 Wed 11:23 am   Quoting Roja Hello, I would be very thankfull if somebody could help me translate the following sentences: "Daha ağaçlardan, sudan küpelerden, çıtırtılardan bildiriler kapacağı yaştaydı." She was at the age of catching edicts from trees, water-made earrings and splutters. Note : I really dont understand this sentence ... "Camda, renklerini rüzgara yayarak sallanan, şıngırdayan, kulaktan geçme küpeler." The earrings which are lurching by spreading their colors to the wind, which are clinking and passing through ears. ... "Satıcı, kızdan yayılan meraklı bakışı dondurdu yüzünde." Seller freezed the curious look which is spreading from the girl on his/her face. //GREETINGS   These senteneces dont make a lot of sense to me. They look like meaningless, wanna be poetic sentences. Although I hate them, I tried to translate them.   Tehlikeli22 liked this message

Thread: Gokuyum´s Favorite Folk Songs ;)

375.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jun 2014 Tue 07:21 pm   Quoting denizli     But isn´t the main instrument on Saki the Bağlama? Not that every North American Pop song using an acoustic guitar makes the song a true Folk song, but we often relate these. Sila sounds too good to be a popular pop singer by North American standards. I´m noticing this, many of the most popular Turkish Pop singers are quite good. Not that none of the pop singers in North America are good. But usually you´ll find the good singers are less popular. Of course this partly may be my own personal opinions. Yeah American pop music really hit the bottom. But with it Turkish pop music too. There are only a few good musicians now.   Edited (6/3/2014) by gokuyum Edited (6/3/2014) by gokuyum Edited (6/3/2014) by gokuyum Edited (6/3/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: Gokuyum´s Favorite Folk Songs ;)

376.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jun 2014 Tue 06:27 pm   Quoting alameda Yes, I do´t like the tablets. I use a laptop/notebook and am good with the touchpad. It is looking like smart phones and tablets will be the death of the written language.  Good luck getting your PC repaired. I think in Turkey you have sme excellent PC repair people. I had one that I was told the CD Rom and DVD drive was dead, and the keys kept ketting stuck. They wanted big bucks just to diagnose it....long story...even though I had a warranty on it, they found a way to not honor it. Now in Turkey is is working very well.       Everythin is cheap here including human life

Thread: Nazlı Ay -- Mabel Matiz

377.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jun 2014 Tue 06:15 pm   Quoting trip Thank you, gokuyum. Translating songs is full of trouble for me. So, I have questions for you:   "Git ona söyle -- Go, tell him/her" How do you know that it is "her" and not "him"? I am guessing -- obviously -- but this song sounds like a jilted lover telling the girl to go her way, to go to the man she has chosen over the singer.  But you forget that I put this /  So I wanted to say it can be both   "Ah gücüme gidiyor yalnızlığım böyle -- Ah, in this way, my loneliness offends me ( look at gücüne gitmek)" I cannot find this phrase in my dictionaries. But I do find "gücendirmek" and "gücenme." İmdat!   Here is my favourite online dictionary http://www.sozluk.net/index.php?word=G%C3%BCc%C3%BCne+gitmek   "Ah bu inadından az mı ağladım ben -- Ah, have I cried a little because of your obstinancy? ( this sentence means I have cried a lot )" I do not understand this. "Az" means "little," yes? And "mı" is the question particle, yes? So, is this a colloquialism that means the opposite of what it looks like? "I cried not a little because of your obstinancy." Anlat, lütfen. Here with this question the person wants to tell that he/she cried a lot. But I guess you should be a native to understand this kind of usage. So dont worry and let it go   And one last question: Is Turkish as filled with ambiguities for Turkish speakers as it is for English speakers? Of course, poetry nearly always has ambiguities -- it is supposed to make you think. But this question of "ay" seems very open-ended. For instance, does "moon bride" have a special meaning in Turkish? Yes there are many ambiguties and word plays. It is one of the characteristics of classic eastern literature. It is sometimes like solving a puzzle.  Moon bride doesnt make sense in Turkish too But in our poetry moon can symbolise the face of the beloved. For example ay yüzlüm ( my moon faced ) is an expression that you can see   Thank you for putting up with all my questions.     trip liked this message

Thread: Gokuyum´s Favorite Folk Songs ;)

378.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jun 2014 Tue 05:59 pm   Quoting denizli Hello Gokuyum. How about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1GYQBsFOqA This wouldn´t be an actual Turkish folk song but that style at least? Is the singer considered good in Turkey or more of a Pop singer who adds Turkish elements as an after-thought? I was stuck on a few things in the Lyrics, what is Saki? what is "Ah be"? Sıla is a popular pop singer. Sorry but I dont hear any folk elments in the song. Saki means cup bearer.

Thread: Gokuyum´s Favorite Folk Songs ;)

379.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Jun 2014 Mon 10:35 pm   Quoting alameda When you make a new link an choose the target,  you please pick "open link in new window" ? That way we won´t be taken away fromm the page with your translation. It´s annoying when you click on a link and the page you were looking at goes away.  I love your translations, but hate looking the page when clicking on the link It is very generous of you to lenduyour time to translate these songs for us. Thank you Gokuyum.       Yeah I know. You told me that before But unfortunately my pc is broken now and I am using my tablet pc for a while. And it is a torture for me using this site with the tablet pc. I am so fond of using the mouse instead of my fingers. Without the mouse, everything is a challange for me now

Thread: my try - english to turkish

380.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Jun 2014 Mon 01:50 am   Quoting halturklondon Thanks for your reply. So both sentences can be used and people would understand that I am saying, ´does this suit me?´ thanks very much for your time, much appreciated   Yes. Of course if you pronounce them correctly

Thread: Türk filmi

381.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Jun 2014 Mon 01:47 am You are welcome.

Thread: Nazlı Ay -- Mabel Matiz

382.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Jun 2014 Sun 12:48 am   Quoting trip Merhaba! I imagine I have nothing correct in this song, but I´ve made a try anyway. I see in the dictionary that "nazlı" can be "one who feigns reluctance." That would seem to work here, but I don´t know how to express that in one word in English. I also know that "ay" can mean "moon," and I have seen translations on the web that use "moon," but that doesn´t seem quite right to me. ... But I´m sure you will tell me. ... Teşekkürler.      Nazlı Ay -- Oh, Coquette Ay nazlı ay -- Oh, coquette, oh gelin ay -- Oh, bride Git ona söyle -- Go, tell him/her Ah gücüme gidiyor yalnızlığım böyle -- Ah, in this way, my loneliness offends me ( look at gücüne gitmek) Ah bu inadından az mı ağladım ben -- Ah, have I cried a little because of your obstinancy? ( this sentence means I have cried a lot ) Ay ay nazlı ay -- Oh, oh, coquette, oh Git onun ülkesine -- Go to his country Git onun beldesine -- Go to his city Ay ay git söyle -- Oh, oh, go, tell him   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlxTQVTHeuI     Ay can mean oh and moon as you wrote. Maybe he uses both meanings in the song. I am not sure about that. trip liked this message

Thread: Türk filmi

383.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Jun 2014 Sun 12:19 am You can watch some series with subtitles here. This site is for the disabled people and there are subtitles. http://engelsiz.kanald.com.tr/ Leah90, tunci and Unasas liked this message

Thread: my try - english to turkish

384.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Jun 2014 Sun 12:08 am   Quoting halturklondon I´ve been working through Turkish and learnt the basics but now I´m teaching myself about ´shopping´ and you know when you´re clothes shopping with a friend and you ask them, does this suit me? well what is that in Turkish please? I have tried my best to translate from english to turkish and would be grateful if someone would be able to help me.   Does this suit me? bu bana uygun mu?   Şimdiden teşekkürler Uymak means to fit. yakışmak is the verb you are asking about. ex: bu elbiese bana yakıştı mı?  Or  bu elbise bana yakışıyor mu?     Edited (6/1/2014) by gokuyum halturklondon liked this message

Thread: Gokuyum´s Favorite Folk Songs ;)

385.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 May 2014 Sat 05:25 am I discovered this singer and this folk song just now. I wanted to share it. It is so nice.  http://youtu.be/AnFBeVJA4QE   Çeke Çeke Ben Bu Dertten Ölürüm  Seversen Ali´yi Değme Yarama  Ali´nin Yoluna Serim Veririm  Seversen Ali´yi Değme Yareme  Suffering from this sorrow I am going to die If you love Ali dont touch my wound I am willing to give my head for the cause of Ali If you love Ali dont touch my wound Ali´nin Yaresi Yar Yaresidir  Buna Merhem Olmaz Dil Yarasıdır  Ali´yi Sevmeyen Hakk´ın Nesidir  Seversen Ali´yi Değme Yareme The wound of Ali is the wound of beloved There is no medicine for it because it is a wound of heart The one who doesnt love Ali, who he is to God? If you love Ali dont touch my wound. Bu Yurt Senin Değil Konar Göçersin  Ali´nin Dolusun Bir Gün İçersin  Körpe Kuzulardan Nasıl Geçersin  Seversen Ali´yi Değme Yareme  This land is not yours you are just a passenger One day hopefully you will drink the drink of Ali How can you turn away from these young lambs? If you love Ali dont touch my wound. Ilgıt Ilgıt Oldu Akıyor Kanım  Pir Yoluna Kurban Verilir Serim  Benim Derdim Bana Yeter Efendim  Seversen Ali´yi Değme Yareme  I am bleeding slowly My head is given on the road of pir My troubles are enough sir If you love Ali dont touch my wound Pir Sultan Abdal´ım Deftere Yazar  Hilebaz Yarinle Olur Mu Pazar  Pir Melhem Çalmazsa Yaralar Azar  seversen Ali´yi Değme Yareme My Pir Sultan writes on a notebook Is it possible to negotiate with a trickster? If pir doesnt put ointment, my wounds are going to get worse If you love Ali dont touch my wound. Edited (5/31/2014) by gokuyum Edited (5/31/2014) by gokuyum Edited (5/31/2014) by gokuyum Edited (7/26/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: hi

386.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 May 2014 Thu 08:15 pm I translated it as a wish. But it is a will. So I edited it. We only use the istek kipi(will mood) with the first person (ben) in Turkish now to fill the absence of the imperative mood for first person (ben). Ex: Let me go  is translated as gideyim. (İstek kipi) let him go is translated as gitsin (imperative mood) go is translated as git (imperative mood)     Edited (5/29/2014) by gokuyum Edited (5/29/2014) by gokuyum Edited (5/29/2014) by gokuyum Edited (5/29/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: hi

387.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 May 2014 Thu 08:07 pm   Quoting Silvis Can u give me example We call it istek kipi. It is different than imperative mood.  Here is a link: http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_9484

Thread: hi

388.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 May 2014 Thu 07:58 pm   Quoting Silvis kalkasın    is this imperative mood ???? It is a will. I want you to stand up.   Edited (5/29/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: T-E please?

389.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 May 2014 Thu 07:57 pm   Quoting Lololooo başım gözüm üstüne. I do not understand this at all. It was in the following sentence... "Senden gelen dert de derman da başım gözüm üstüne"  It is normal that you dont understand it because it is an idiom. It means I accept them with pleasure. Sentence means: I accept every trouble and cure coming from you with pleasure. and this too please... "Kıvrılıp yatayım ayacıklarının dibine." Let me snuggle beside your feet. Can anyone help? Thank you.       Lololooo liked this message

Thread: T2E

390.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 May 2014 Thu 12:25 am   Quoting nessah Bir kadın gitmeyi koymuşsa kafasına, buna engel olamazsın.. Sevse de, gider.. Aklı sende olsa da gider, gönlü sende kalsa da gider.. Kaybetmek istemediğin bir kadını, asla incitme! Çünkü; bunu telafi edemezsin.. Çünkü; kadın vazgeçtiği kalbe yabancılaşır.. Bir kadın karşısında; - Sıradan bir erkek, beyninde bitmiş bir erkekten daha şanslıdır.   If a woman is determined to go, you cant prevent that. She will go although she loves you. she will go even she thinks about you and even her heart is with you. Never hurt a woman you dont want to lose. You cant make it up. Because woman becomes estranged from a heart that she gave up. In the presence of a woman An ordinary guy is luckier than a given up person. nessah liked this message

Thread: T2E

391.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 May 2014 Thu 12:17 am   Quoting nessah Bir kadının eğer sol göğsünün altında darbe yaptıysanız, o kadının yaşayacağı devrimlerin tek sorumlusu sizsiniz demektir. Ve unutmayın; darbe esnasında ilk olarak iktidar değişir     If you made an impact under the left bossom of a woman then you will be responible of the revolutions that that woman will exprience. And dont forget during a coup always goverments change first. nessah liked this message

Thread: T2E

392.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 May 2014 Thu 12:13 am   Quoting nessah Kadın sizi parçalara ayırmak istiyorsa, bırakın yapsın, sizi tekrar bir araya getirebilir. Ama onun kendisini parçalamasına izin vermeyin... Dağılırsınız.   If a woman wants to tear you into pieces let her do that. She can piece you together again. But dont let her tear herself into pieces. You will be scattered. Edited (5/29/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: how do i say this in turkish

393.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 May 2014 Tue 04:22 pm bayılmak is already an exaggerated expression. So using çok with it sounds strange. You should discard it.

Thread: Turkish to English please

394.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 May 2014 Tue 06:02 am   Quoting SweetKisses Just wondering if any of you would be kind enough to translate the following. Kardeş sevgisi sevgilerin en sadesi ve en içtenidir..Allah hayırlısıyla gidip gelmeni nasip eylesin KARDEŞİM. AND... onu tanıdım ve dedim: bu adamdan,baba olur, öyle ki ölsen gitsen, senin yerine anne de olur!   Many thanks!   The affection between syblings is the purest and most sincere of all affections. May Allah grant you good going and coming back my sybling. ( my translation seems so weird but it is not always easy to translate an expression to another ) I got acquainted with him and said This man can be a father Even if you die and go away He can even be a mother in absence of you.   Edited (5/27/2014) by gokuyum Edited (5/27/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: Translations please?

395.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 May 2014 Tue 05:47 am   Quoting raydin "It could have been worse, but good thing it wasn´t." Daha kötü olabilirdi ama olmaması güzel bir şey. "I could tell that he was thinking he knew me, but then we found out we never met before he just thought my face looked familiar" Beni tanıdığını düşündüğünü söyleyebilirdim ama sonra daha önce hiç tanışmadığımızı anladık. Sadece yüzümün tanıdık olduğunu düşünmüştü. "she knew that I was right but she wants to only believe that I am wrong and she is right"  Haklı olduğumu biliyordu ama haksız olduğuma inanmak istiyordu ve haklı da. "it´s important to stay positive no matter what" Her ne olursa olsun pozitif kalmak önemli. "everyone talks to me in broken turkish because I´m a foreigner" ---> which is really true haha Herkes benimle bozuk bir Türkçeyle konuşuyor çünkü ben bir yabncıyım. also how to say...   "as I was reading" "as I was walking" do you use erak/arak suffix or ken suffix for those? No. erek/ arak comes after verbs and give the meaning of "by" in English. ex: Koşarak gidiyordum. I was going by running. As I was running is a different expression I guess.       Edited (5/27/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: Sıla - Yoruldum (I´m Tired)

396.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 May 2014 Tue 05:34 am Kişi başına means " for each"  Literally it means "to the head of one person" It is like a head count Dostlar başına means "to the head of friends" It is a wish. It means "May it come to their heads too." It is wishing the same thing for them.   denizli liked this message

Thread: Sıla - Yoruldum (I´m Tired)

397.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 May 2014 Tue 05:34 am ,   Edited (5/27/2014) by gokuyum Edited (5/27/2014) by gokuyum Edited (5/27/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: Test-160

398.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 May 2014 Fri 06:30 pm   Quoting tunci   Complete the missing parts in the sentences below.   Bu kış geçen kışa daha soğuk. Annem pazardan turşuya biber aldı. Otelden iki kişicik yer ayırttıım. Bir şirkette danışman danışman çalışıyorum.     My try tunci liked this message

Thread: Help to translate to Turkish from English please :)

399.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 May 2014 Tue 11:14 pm   Quoting MethvenMinx Can some kind person translate this to Turkish please? Thanks "I am good and pretty happy. I have been very busy with several fundraising events for work but things will get easier soon, I hope. I have been spending time with friends and family, and life is going pretty well. I hope you are well too. Are you still driving or have you become a singer in a bar?!! I’d come back to Turkey to see that!! (I haven’t learned Turkish – a kind person online has translated for me!)"   İyiyim ve oldukça mutluyum. Birçok kaynak yaratma etkinliğiyle meşguldüm ama işler yakında kolaylaşacak. Ailemle ve arkadaşlarımla zamanımı geçiriyorum ve hayat oldukça iyi gidiyor. Umarım sen de iyisindir. Hala sürüyor musun yoksa bir barda şarkıcı mı oldun? Sırf bunu görmek için Türkiyeye gelirdim. (Daha Türkçe öğrenmedim online kibar bir insan benim için yazdıklarımı çevirdi) MethvenMinx liked this message

Thread: trk to eng pls

400.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 May 2014 Tue 11:08 pm   Quoting nazarnazar   ben herşeyin farkındayım senin hayatındaki yeriminde senin için ne kadar önemsiz olduğumunda farkındayım ama sen hala benim için önemlisin, herneyse senin canını sıktığımı hissettim ne zaman istersen sana yardımcı olabilirim yanlız ben hissettim arkamdan bana alaycı bir şekilde gülüşünü.   I am aware of everything. I know my place in your life and I know how unimportant I am for you but you are still important for me. Anyways I felt that I bored you. Whenever you want I can help you. But I felt your moking smile when I turned my back.

Thread: Help please

401.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 May 2014 Tue 11:03 pm   Quoting lucybevan1988 Could someone please help me say    I have been thinking all afternoon if I leave my job here in the uk you need to try hard to. I need to relay on you - you can´t be late for things and waste money on partying - if we rent together are you sure you have the money ? I´m applying for all the schools do you know of any ? I also need to relay on you finding a place for us to rent ? Are you sure your ready for all this and to start a family in June as I could fall pregnant fast or may take time you need to be sure ? You also need to start a Turkish course. I have decided I will not got out partying any more and just save for turkey ... Bütün öğlen burada İngilteredeki işimi bıraksam senin de çok çaba göstermen gerekeceğini düşündüm. Ben sana dayanmak zorunda olacağım. Sen de artık bazı şeyler için gecikemeyecek ve partilerle paranı israf edemeyeceksin. Eğer beraber bir ev kiralarsak, yeterli paran olacağına emin misin? Ben tüm okullara başvuruyorum. Senin bildiğin bir tane var mı? Ayrıca bizim kiralayacağımız evi bulmak da sana düşecek. Bütün bunlar ve haziranda bir aile başlatmak için hazır mısın? Çok çabuk hamile kalabilirim ya da emin olmaya ihtiyacın varsa ağırdan alabilirim. Sen de bir Türkçe ( you mean English I guess) kursuna başlamalısın. Bundan sonra partilere gitmemeye ve Türkiye için para biriktirmeye karar verdim.   lucybevan1988 liked this message

Thread: SMALL TRANSLATION

402.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 May 2014 Tue 10:53 pm   Quoting tomac My try as learner.   Whatever I say will make no difference. Ne söylesem fark etmez.   So I will save myself from more humiliation. Bu yüzden, kendimi daha utandırmadan kurtarırım. Ne söylesem fark etmeyecek. Bu yüzden kendimi daha fazla aşağılatmayacağım.   tomac liked this message

Thread: muş

403.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 May 2014 Mon 10:00 pm Because he heard or learnt it from someone else. So that is why he used "muş" even after "present continous tense". For example your friend wonders if the bus goes to city center. But you dont know. You ask me if the bus goes to city center and I say "yes, it goes". Then you can say your friend: Evet gidiyormuş.   Edited (5/19/2014) by gokuyum tomac and Lina88 liked this message

Thread: E2T

404.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 May 2014 Mon 09:51 pm You can emphasize any word putting question word after it in Turkish. So you can ask that question in many ways? Bu mektubu sen mi yazdın? Sen bu mektubu mu yazdın?   This one is interesting because in Turkish the word before verb is emphasised but this question word emphasise the verb too coming after it. So two things are emphasised Sen bu mektubu yazdın mı? Edited (5/19/2014) by gokuyum Gulumyavrum and tomac liked this message

Thread: to english plz

405.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 May 2014 Mon 09:39 pm   Quoting tomac I see it now - that makes sense to me! But let´s wait for help from other forum members.   Second or third person is possible but they will still adress the same person. They will say to you coward, weak..... or They will say she is coward, she is weak .... Edited (5/19/2014) by gokuyum tomac liked this message

Thread: E2T

406.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 May 2014 Sun 07:19 pm Nessah´s translation is correct. I am shedding tears of joy now

Thread: Translation needed if possible. Thank you

407.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 May 2014 Sat 11:44 am Because I guess I am a romantic person Phideli and denizli liked this message

Thread: Translation needed if possible. Thank you

408.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 May 2014 Fri 07:56 pm As a caution I want people to wait at least ten minutes to post my translation because I edit my translations a lot

Thread: Translation needed if possible. Thank you

409.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 May 2014 Fri 07:54 pm   Quoting lauraacorah Every time I get close to you. You push me away. It hurts. I don´t know how to behave around you . I can´t be myself around you anymore because I feel you are always looking for an argument. What exactly is that you expect from me? I would prefer you to be clear.   Sana ne zaman yakınlaşmaya çalışsam beni uzaklaştırıyorsun. Bu canımı yakıyor. Senin etrafında nasıl davranmam gerektiğini bilmiyorum.Senin yanında kendim gibi olamıyorum çünkü her zaman bir tartışma için fırsat aradığını görüyorum. Benden tam olarak beklediğin nedir? Açık olmanı istiyorum.   Edited (5/16/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: E2T pls

410.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 May 2014 Fri 04:22 pm   Quoting nessah Sometimes you have to forget what you feel and remember what you deserve   Bazen ne hissettiğini unutmalı ve neyi hak ettiğini hatırlamalısın.   Come to me with short sentences like this baby nessah liked this message

Thread: Help please

411.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 May 2014 Fri 04:18 pm   Quoting lucybevan1988 Please can someone help me say    I have been driving around today with zeynep I took the boys to school wow Turkish children are crazy they are sooooo naughty but funny ! I think I will take job we look at apartments to rent I think I find 1 I like .. Bugün Zeyneple arabayla geziniyorduk. Oğlanları okula götürdüm. Türk çocukları çılgın ve çok yaramazlar ama çok da komikler. İşi alacağım. Kiralamak için dairelere bakıyoruz. Sanırım seveceğim bir tane bulacağım.   i spoke ike to zeynep about you and our relationship she thought you looked nice she said I will learn Turkish so fast here the cleaner and house keeper can teach me every day and she will send me to school I will learn so fast I need to learn for myself not just the relationship as to live a normal life in turkey I need to learn but it´s to have the confidence ... Sen ve bizim ilişkimiz hakkında Zeyneple konuştum. Senin yakışıklı biri olduğunu düşünüyor. Burada çok hızlı Türkçe öğreneceğimi söylüyor. Kapıcı ve temizlikçi her gün bana Türkçe öğretebilirmiş ve o beni okula gönderecekmiş. Türkiyede normal bir hayat sürmek için yalnızca ilişkimiz için değil kendim için de Türkçe öğrenmeliyim. Kendime güven kazanmak için.   i want to spend all my time with you I can´t wait until side and to huge you all night and be in my own home and no work - you still want to come correct ? Tüm vaktimi seninle geçirmek istiyorum. Seni bütün gece kucaklamak ve hiçbir iş olmadan evimde oturmak için sabırsızlanıyorum. Hala gelmek istiyorsun değil mi?   i will text you when to come tonight don´t worry my friends talk both languages they can help but really I want to learn Turkish sooo badly ;( I am worried you can find better girl than me   Ne zaman geleceğin hakkında sana bu akşam mesaj atacağım. Merak etme arkadaşlarım her iki dili de konuşuyorlar. Yardımcı olabilirler ama gerçekten Türkçe öğrenmeyi çok istiyorum. Benden daha iyi bir kız bulursun diye endişeleniyorum.

Thread: Translation?

412.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 May 2014 Fri 04:06 pm   Quoting elenagabriela mesela...   "Toprak ağası mıydım? Çifttim çubuğum mu vardı? Yoksa hacı, hoca, tarikat mensubu eşim dostum yakınım mı vardı?"   Ayşe Kulin - Gece sesleri   sağol   Oh you came with a difficult one These are ironic questions. They mean the opposite of what they ask. Was I a landowner? Did I have  pairs of animals and  hooks? Or did I have any relative or friend who was a hadji, hodja or a member of a religious order? Edited (5/16/2014) by gokuyum elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: Help for translation turkish to english please

413.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 May 2014 Fri 03:48 pm   Quoting svetlana83 Hello,   Could you please translate this for me ?   Çok tesekkür edrim…   1) Unutmak ne kadar zorsa, unutulmak da bi o kadar acidir. (I understand : To forget is so difficult, but to be forgotten aches even worse. Doğru mu ?)     2) Hayatta en zor olonini biraktin bana sensizligi. Oysa ben seninle hala bir hayat dusunuyorum. Ya hayatim olacaksin yada hayattaki sonum. I dont know how to translate the first sentence. I will try. I hope it will make sense 1) How difficult to forget and how painful to be forgetten are same. Lol. It sounds really weird in English   2) You have left the most difficult one to me: to be without you. But I still think about a life with you. You will be either my life or the end in my life.   Edited (5/16/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: yapmaktan, okumaktan, etc.

414.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 May 2014 Fri 03:35 pm   Quoting nova13 Oh, I see! Thank you very much.   I made some editing and added extra information to my post.

Thread: yapmaktan, okumaktan, etc.

415.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 May 2014 Fri 03:22 pm   Quoting nova13 Merhaba. In one of the homeworks I found this sentence: "Haftasonlari kıtap okumaktan, müzik dinlemekten, gezmekten ve yemek yapmaktan hoşlanıyorum." I imagine this means "During weekends, I like reading a book, listening to music and going for a walk.", but I don´t understand what tense the verbs like yapmaktan or okumaktan are in. What is the (mak)tan/(mek)ten in the end? - I´m not even sure which one is the suffix!   They dont have tenses. They are in their infinitive forms like "to do", "to go", "to see". But sometimes you prefer to make them gerunds adding ing suffix to them when you use them as objects or subjects in English. Ex: going, walking, seeing. Adding mek/mak suffix to verb is one of the ways to make a verb object or subject in Turkish. But that is not enough. Verbs also want objects to be direct or indirect. So you should add other suffixes too.  Hoşlanmak always wants objects to be in ablative form. That means it wants them to be indirect. So we should add this -den/dan suffix. The equivelant of this suffix is "from." in English. 1)"Yürümekten hoşlanıyorum" can be translated as "I like walking". 2) But it can be translated like this too "I take pleasure from walking". So Turkish sentence is similar with the second example.   Edited (5/16/2014) by gokuyum Edited (5/16/2014) by gokuyum Edited (5/16/2014) by gokuyum nova13 liked this message

Thread: Arabic to English please

416.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 May 2014 Fri 03:14 pm   Quoting harp00n Badi, neden uğraştırıyorsun bizi ? Sen biliyorsun cevabı.   No I dont know. I know Ottoman not Arabic

Thread: Arabic to English please

417.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 May 2014 Fri 03:14 pm   Quoting harp00n Badi, neden uğraştırıyorsun bizi ? Sen biliyorsun cevabı.   No I dont know. I know Ottoman not Arabic

Thread: Arabic to English please

418.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 May 2014 Fri 09:44 am I want this letter to be translated to English. It is believed that it was written to jinns by our prophet and it protects people from the harms of jinns.Some Islamic scholars dont accept this letter belongs to our prophet. But it would be interesting to learn what is written. Edited (5/16/2014) by gokuyum Edited (5/16/2014) by gokuyum elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: Translation?

419.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 May 2014 Fri 09:36 am When I feel bored and come here to translate something, I cant find anything to translate. So sad Istanbuladdict liked this message

Thread: Object Marker

420.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 May 2014 Fri 03:14 am   Quoting denizli I am still a little stuck on when to use the object marker. With Sevmek, when do we use it, always? I know we should say seni seviyorum rather than sen seviyorum. But what if we like a place or a food or music? Is it this correct? Müziği seviyorum. I would prefer saying "Müzik dinlemeyi seviyorum". Sevmek always wants you to use this -i suffix with the object.I use object as a grammar term here. A person can be the object too. And  "listenning to music" is the object in my sentence. An object can consist of more than one words too. So we put this -i after "müzik dinleme". But two vowels can not come together in Turkish so we put a y between them. müzik dinleme-y-i   Edited (5/9/2014) by gokuyum Edited (5/9/2014) by gokuyum Edited (5/9/2014) by gokuyum tunci liked this message

Thread: Is this sentence correct?

421.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 May 2014 Fri 03:05 am   Quoting kosara Hi guys! So, I´m trying to write a short essay for my Turkish class, but I have a few problems. Since my teachers are Turkish and we have sadece Türkçe rule, it´s sometimes difficult to fully understand some grammar, e.g. -ki and -DAki. I wrote: Teyzemin kocasının Saraybosna´dan yakın dağdaki köyde küçük bir evi var. Is this sentence correct? As I understand, noun+(da)ki gives an adjective, so I´m not sure whether I should use it here. Would mountain village be dağ köyü? Should I put dağ köyünde instead of dağdaki köyde? Teyzemin kocasının Saraybosna´ya yakın dağdaki köyde küçük bir evi var. You made the mistake somewhere else This "ki" connects two words dağ and köy with the help of suffix "-da". Dağdaki köy means "The village on the mountain" "Arabadaki adam" means "The man in the car". If you say dont use ki and just say "Dağda köye gitti" It sounds weird because you are using two different words without any connection and it confuses us. You should connect them with ki.     Edited (5/9/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: E to T

422.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 May 2014 Fri 02:46 am   Quoting denizli daha - that is intersting - i see that it can translate to "only"   To translate it as "only" is correct there but it is weird for me to think it that way because  "only" expresses "fewness" in English but "daha" expresses "muchness" in Turkish. I think you (plural) use "only" in that sentence to express that so little time has passed since the action took place. So you emphasise the fewness of time but on the contorary we use "daha" in the Turkish version of that sentence to express that it is so new. The thing we want to emphasise is the muchness of the action´s being new  It is like saying it has happened very new Edited (5/9/2014) by gokuyum Edited (5/9/2014) by gokuyum Edited (5/9/2014) by gokuyum Edited (5/9/2014) by gokuyum denizli and olphon liked this message

Thread: \"ile\" and verb agreement

423.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 May 2014 Wed 12:54 pm   Quoting trip Merhaba! I think I am confused about something, and I hope you can help me. In the past, I have written a sentence like "I went on vacation with my family," and I have used a singular verb to go with "I." But then I was corrected and told that I should use a plural verb. So which is correct?: "Ben ailemle tatil yaptım" or "Ben ailemle tatil yaptık."  In a book, I see: "Ahmet´le Mehmet geldiler." Would you ever say?: "Ahmet´le Mehmet geldi." I know that "ile" can be read as "and," rather than "with." Is that part of what is going on here? Sorry if this is a dumb question. Teşekkürler! "-le" is the suffix form of "ile". They do the same things. Simply "ile" means "and" and "with". When you use it as a conjuction (as "and") there are two subjects, but if you use it as a particle (as "with") then there is only one subject.   Examples: 1. Ailemle tatile gittik. Here "ile" is a conjuction and there are two subjects. One is "ailem" other is "ben(hidden)" But because of this hidden "ben", also an ambiguity appears. It is better to say like this: Ailem ile ben tatile gittik. 2. Ailemle tatile gittim. Here "ile" is a particle. And there is only one subject in the sentence. And it is "ben(hidden)" Ailem is not a subject here.       Edited (5/7/2014) by gokuyum Edited (5/7/2014) by gokuyum Edited (5/7/2014) by gokuyum Edited (5/7/2014) by gokuyum Edited (5/7/2014) by gokuyum Edited (5/7/2014) by gokuyum trip liked this message

Thread: translate please.. letter of Bayezid and Sultan Suleyman

424.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 May 2014 Tue 08:07 pm Tutalım iki elim baştan başa kanda ola, Lets say my both hands are in blood Bu meseldir, söylenir kim "kul günah itse n´ola" This is a parable “It is not important if a slave sinned” Bayezîd´in suçunu bağışla, kıyma bu kula, Forgive the guilt of Beyazid, dont kill this slave. Bigünahım, Hak bilür, devletlü sultanım baba. I am innocent, Allah knows, my prosperous sultan, my father.

Thread: translate please.. letter of Bayezid and Sultan Suleyman

425.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 May 2014 Tue 08:02 pm Hak Taâlâ, kim cihanın şahı etmiştir seni Allah made you the Shah of the world Öldürüp ben kulunu, güldürme şahım düşmeni By killing this slave of yours, dont make the enemy laugh Gözlerim nuru oğullarımdan ayırma beni Dont seperate me from my sons who are the light of my eyes Bigünahım, Hak bilür devletlü sultanım baba I am innocent, Allah knows, my prosperous sultan, my father.

Thread: translate please.. letter of Bayezid and Sultan Suleyman

426.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 May 2014 Tue 07:59 pm   Bir nice ma´sumum olduğun şeha bilmez misin? O Shah, dont you know what a poor innocent person I am?  Anların kanına girmekten hazer kılmaz mısın, Wouldnt you refrain spilling blood of innocents? Yoksa ben kulunla Hak dergahına varmaz mısın, Wouldnt you go to the lodge of Allah with this slave of yours? Bigünahım, Hak bilür, devletlü sultanım baba. I am innocent, Allah knows, my prosperous sultan, my father.   Edited (5/6/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: translate please.. letter of Bayezid and Sultan Suleyman

427.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 May 2014 Tue 07:52 pm Kim sana arzeyleye hâlim, Who can tell you my situation? Eya şah-ı kerim, Anadan, kardeşlerimden ayrılıp kaldım yetim, O gracious Shah, I have become an orphan getting seperated from my mother and syblings. Yok benim bir zerre isyanım sana, I dont have a slightest amount of rebellion against you Hak´tır alîm, Bigünahım, Hak bilür, devletlü sultanım baba. Allah is the wisest, I am innocent, Allah knows, my prosperous sultan, my father.

Thread: translate please.. letter of Bayezid and Sultan Suleyman

428.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 May 2014 Tue 07:45 pm  Sanki Mecnun´um, bana dağlar başı oldu durak, I am like Mecnun, mountain tops have become my resting places.  Ayrılıp bilcümle mal ü mülkten düştüm ırak, I got seperated from all my possessions and properties and remained far away. Dökerim göz yaşını vâhasretâ, dâd-el-firak, I shed tears. Woes. Save me from seperation. Bigünahım, Hak bilür, devletlü sultanım baba. I am innocent, Allah knows, my prosperous sultan, my father.   Edited (5/6/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: translate please.. letter of Bayezid and Sultan Suleyman

429.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 May 2014 Tue 07:38 pm  Enbiya ser-defteri yani ki Âdem hakkıçün, For the love of Adam who is the beginning of the book of prophets    Hem dahi Musî ile îsî-i Meryem hakkıçün, And even for the love of Moses and Jesus of Mary Kainatın server-i ol Ruh-i âzam hakkıçün, For the love of Greatest Spirit who is the commander of the universe Bigünahım, Hak bilür, devletlü sultanım baba. I am innocent, Allah knows, my prosperous sultan, my father.   Edited (5/6/2014) by gokuyum Edited (5/6/2014) by gokuyum Edited (5/6/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: translate please.. letter of Bayezid and Sultan Suleyman

430.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 May 2014 Tue 07:29 pm Ey seraser âleme Sultan Süleyman´ım baba, O my father, Sultan Süleyman of the whole universe Tende Canım, Canımın içinde cananım baba, O father who is my soul in my body and my beloved in my soul Bayezîd´ine kıyar mısın benim canım baba Would you intend to kill your Beyazid my dear father? Bigünahım, Hak bilür, devletlü sultanım baba. I am innocent, Allah knows, my prosperous sultan, my father.

Thread: translate please.. letter of Bayezid and Sultan Suleyman

431.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 May 2014 Tue 07:29 pm I am bored. I will translate the other letter

Thread: E to T + opinion

432.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 May 2014 Tue 07:05 pm   Quoting ikicihan my guess, north-west (Thrace) is in europe, south-east is in middle east, and the rest is in asia. geographically!   but if we make a mental classification! thrace, west anatolia and south anatolia is in europe, east anatolia is in middle east, and north anatolia and center anatolia is in asia! As a north Anatolian I liked to think I was European in the past. But now I am not sure. I am realising that I have strong ties with middle east too. I am really in between. And this causes an identity crisis for me.   ikicihan and denizli liked this message

Thread: T2E plz

433.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 May 2014 Sat 03:51 pm   Quoting nessah are u sure it says men in the last sentence? cuz this is not something that someone wrote to me.     Herif means man dear. Where do you find these fancy writings? Edited (5/3/2014) by gokuyum elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: T2E plz

434.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 May 2014 Sat 12:18 pm   Quoting nessah Yaptığın onca şeyden sonra, gel diyecek karakterim yok artık sana. Benim için bittin. Son umutla müdahale edilen bir hasta gibi. Umudumu kestim. Kulaklarımda, ölümün sessizliği. Bu aşkı kurtarmaya, kalbimin bile gücü yetmedi. Canım bile acımıyor artık, hissizleştim. Seninle geçirdiğimiz günleri tek tek hafızamdan sildirdim. Bilirsin, filmlerde olduğu gibi. Sigara ve alkol hariç her şeyi kestim. Bu...na, hayalimdeki sen de dahilsin. Paramparça artık beynimin içinde o küçücük bedenin. İnanır mısın, o küçücük bedenle yaptığın bunca şeyi bir türlü anlamayı beceremedim. Kendime yediremedim, içime sindiremedim. Belki bulursun bunları kabullenecek kadar geniş birini. Ama ben seni hala sevecek kadar midesiz değilim. Dönemezsin artık bana, ölüler dirilemez anlasana. Şimdi istersen git ol o önüme koyduğun heriflerden biriyle. Ya da hepsiyle. Artık tarzın hangisiyse… After so many things you have done, I dont have the character to say you "come" anymore. You are finished for me. Like a patient who was tried to be saved with a last hope. I gave up hope.There is the silence of death in my ears. Even the power of my heart was not enough to save this love. I dont feel any pain now, I am numb. I deleted the days when we were together from my memory. You know like in the movies. I cut everything except cigarette and alcohol. Including you in my dreams. Your small body in my brain is in pieces. I wasnt able to understand so many things that you have done with that small body anyhow. I couldnt accept them. Maybe you can find someone who will accept them. But I am not that low to love you anymore. You cant come back to me, understand that dead people cant revive. Now if you want, go and be with one of those men you told me. Or with all of them. With the ones who suit your style.   Edited (5/3/2014) by gokuyum Edited (5/3/2014) by gokuyum nessah liked this message

Thread: Grammatical errors in my text?

435.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 May 2014 Thu 10:00 pm Instead of deleting it. You should have written "up" and let it be seen on the home page again.

Thread: Armenians/Policy change?

436.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Apr 2014 Sat 10:20 pm If some people think accepting so called genocide will solve problems, they are wrong. It will be the beginning of new big problems. Armenians will want compensation and lands. This will fire the hatred between nations again. Why didnt Armenians accept Erdogan´s condolonces? Without giving lands and compensation no condolences and even no apologises will be accepted. And I have a few questions if someone knows the answers please inform me: Did Armenians apologise for their crimes against Turks and Azeris? Didnt they kill thousands of Turks during World War 1. Didnt they massacre Azeris? Didnt they invade Karabag? Do they say they are sorry? Do they accept their crimes? Why do they burn Turks and Azeri flags if they just want peace? Edited (4/26/2014) by gokuyum Edited (4/26/2014) by gokuyum Edited (4/26/2014) by gokuyum Edited (4/26/2014) by gokuyum Edited (4/26/2014) by gokuyum harp00n liked this message

Thread: Translation help needed!

437.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Apr 2014 Thu 10:07 am   Quoting Hürrem_Tine Merhaba arkadaşlar! What does this sentence mean in english: Dört başın alır asil dokun It is from the song "Yetmez" by Atiye.     Maybe it means something in English but not in Turkish

Thread: translate please.. letter of Bayezid and Sultan Suleyman

438.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Apr 2014 Mon 02:25 pm   Quoting daid not only son, but grandsons too.. i have read that he had forgiven bayezit but bayezit´s enemies interrupted and the order of forgiveness couldnt reach persia and bayezit with his sons were executed    Being a simple man is always better than being an emperor. I dont blame Kanuni. He was an emperor and he did the the things he tought it was right to do. I think his life was a big tragedy. May Allah forgive his sins.

Thread: translate please.. letter of Bayezid and Sultan Suleyman

439.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Apr 2014 Mon 02:11 pm After giving this many guarantees what happened and he killed his son I really dont know. It must be really difficult to be an emperor. Edited (4/21/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: Magnificent Century Soundtrack Album

440.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Apr 2014 Sun 05:21 am   Quoting Saifmalik92 english translation plz! zahit bizi tan eyleme hak ismin okur dilimiz, sakın efsane söyleme hazrete varır yolumuz.   Fundamentalist, dont curse us Our tongues read the name Hakk Don tell us fairy tales Our road goes to his excellency.   sayılmayız parmak ile, tükenmeyiz kırmak ile. taşramızdan sormak ile, kimse bilmez ahvalimiz.   We are not counted by finger We are not destroyed by getting killed By asking  to foreign people Nobody learns our situation.   erenlerin çoktur yolu, cümlesine dedik beli. gören bizi sanır deli, usludan yeğdir delimiz.   Dervishes have many roads We said yes to all of them. Everyone who sees us thinks we are crazy Our crazy ones are better than wise ones.     muhy-i sana ola himmet, aşık ise cana minnet. cümle alemlere rahmet, saçar şu yoksul elimiz.   May Allah help you Muhyi If you are in love be thankful. Our poor hand scatter mercy Onto all universes.     sayılmayız parmak ile hay hay tükenmeyiz kırma ile hey canım tükenmeyiz kırma ile eyvallah hey dost   We are not counted by finger hay hay We are not destroyed by getting killed hey my dear We are not destroyed by getting killed eyvallah hey friend.     Edited (4/20/2014) by gokuyum Edited (4/20/2014) by gokuyum Edited (4/20/2014) by gokuyum Saifmalik92 liked this message

Thread: E2T

441.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Apr 2014 Tue 06:47 am What is wrong with option 1? It seems right too

Thread: Neden/Niye

442.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Apr 2014 Sun 08:40 am   Quoting si++     I have a feeling that this sense of humour sounds familiar to me. Are you an old member with a new nickname? I thought he was "handsome". But I guess he is not He impressed me with his explanations about Turkish grammar and he hasnt written anything yet about Armenian genocide   elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: translate please.. letter of Bayezid and Sultan Suleyman

443.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Apr 2014 Sun 08:07 am I started translating one by one. I can translate other ones too if people encourage me with their likes I am very very busy. Edited (4/13/2014) by gokuyum tunci, Gulumyavrum and daid liked this message

Thread: translate please.. letter of Bayezid and Sultan Suleyman

444.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Apr 2014 Sun 08:06 am Tutalum iki elüm başdan başa kanda ola Çünki istiğfâr idersün biz de afv itsek nola Bâyezidüm suçını bağışlaram gelsen yola Bî-günâham dime bâri tevbe kıl cânum oğul   Lets say your both hands are in blood If you repent, we will still forgive you My dear Beyazıd I will forgive your crime if you come to the right path At least dont say you are innocent and repent my dear son.   Edited (4/21/2014) by gokuyum tunci and daid liked this message

Thread: translate please.. letter of Bayezid and Sultan Suleyman

445.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Apr 2014 Sun 08:05 am Hak reâyâ-yı muti’e râi itmişdür beni İsterem mağlûb idem agnama zib-i düşmeni Hâşâlillah öldürürsem bî-güneh nâgâh seni Bî-günâham dime bâri tevbe kıl cânum oğul   God appointed me a shepard over people to make them obey I want to defeat the wolf-like enemy for sheeps May God prevent me from killing you if you are innocent At least dont say you are innocent and repent my dear son. Edited (4/21/2014) by gokuyum tunci liked this message

Thread: translate please.. letter of Bayezid and Sultan Suleyman

446.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Apr 2014 Sun 08:05 am Rahm u şefkat zîb-i îmân olduğın bilmez misün Yâ dem-i masûmı dökmekden hazer kılmaz mısun Abdi âzâd ile Hak dergâhına varmaz mısun Bî-günâham dime bâri tevbe kıl cânum oğul   Dont you know mercy and kindness are decorations of faith? Wouldnt you stay away from spilling blood of innocents? Wouldnt you go to the lodge of God by freeing  slaves? At least dont say you are innocent and repent my dear son. Edited (4/21/2014) by gokuyum daid liked this message

Thread: translate please.. letter of Bayezid and Sultan Suleyman

447.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Apr 2014 Sun 08:04 am Neş’et-i Hakdur nübüvvet râm olan olur kerîm “Lâtekul üf” kavlini inkâr iden kalur yetîm Tâata isyâna alîmdür Hudâvend-i Kerîm Bî-günâham dime bâri tevbe kıl cânım oğul Prophethood comes from Allah, one who obeys will be gracious The one who refuses  "Dont say (even) uff (to your parents)" will become orphan Gracious Allah is aware of rebellion against obeying At least dont say you are innocent and repent my dear son   Edited (4/21/2014) by gokuyum Edited (4/21/2014) by gokuyum Edited (4/21/2014) by gokuyum Edited (4/21/2014) by gokuyum daid liked this message

Thread: translate please.. letter of Bayezid and Sultan Suleyman

448.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Apr 2014 Sun 08:03 am Adem adın itmeyen Mecnûna sahralar durak Kurb-ı tâatdan kaçanlar dâima düşer ırak Tan degüldür dir isen vâ hasretâ dâd el-firak Bî-günâham dime bâri tevbe kıl cânum oğul   Only the deserts are resting places for Mecnun (legendary crazy lover) who never wants to mention and hear a person´s name. The ones who escape from the closeness of obeying, remain always far away It is not a shame if you say "Woes to me, save me from seperation" At least dont say you are innocent and repent my dear son.       Edited (4/13/2014) by gokuyum daid liked this message

Thread: translate please.. letter of Bayezid and Sultan Suleyman

449.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Apr 2014 Sun 07:28 am Enbiyâ vü evliyâ ervâh-ı a’zam hakkıçün Nûh ü İbrahim ü Mûsi İbn-i Meryem hakkıçün Hatm-ı âsâr-ı nübüvvet Fahr-ı Âlem hakkıçün Bî-günâham dime bâri tevbe kıl cânum oğul     For the love of all prophets, saints and souls of great men For the love of Noah, Abraham, Moses and son of Mary For the love of the pride of universe [Mohammed (s.a.v) ] who is the seal of the prophethood that lasted centuries. At least dont say you are innocent and repent my dear son. Edited (4/13/2014) by gokuyum Edited (4/13/2014) by gokuyum Edited (4/13/2014) by gokuyum daid liked this message

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450.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Apr 2014 Sun 07:27 am I hated this black background. So lets open a white page   Ey dem-a-dem mazhar-ı tugyân u isyânum oğul Takmayan boynına hergiz tavk-ı fermânum oğul Ben kıyar mıydum sana ey Bâyezid hânum oğul Bî-günâham dime bâri tevbe kıl cânum oğul O my son who is always disobedient and rebellious O my son who never wears my command on his neck Would I intend to kill you my son Beyazıd Khan? At least dont say you are innocent and repent my dear son.   Edited (4/13/2014) by gokuyum Edited (4/13/2014) by gokuyum Edited (4/13/2014) by gokuyum daid liked this message

Thread: translate please.. letter of Bayezid and Sultan Suleyman

451.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Apr 2014 Sun 07:20 am     Edited (4/13/2014) by gokuyum MoustacheFan liked this message

Thread: Please T-EN

452.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Apr 2014 Sun 07:04 am A simple answer would be like this : They have the same difference between while and when. Silvis and MoustacheFan liked this message

Thread: Selfie in Turkish

453.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2014 Tue 10:47 pm   Quoting ikicihan selfie´nin türkçesi selfi olsun. tdk böyle birşeyi kabul etmeyeceği için onlara tavsiye etmiyorum.   Selfienin Türkçesi Selvi olsun

Thread: Yok yok

454.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Apr 2014 Sun 06:13 pm Yok yok simply means "There is everything".   Lillita liked this message

Thread: mi/midir

455.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Apr 2014 Sat 04:35 pm   Quoting Beautiful Life As I see, you´re native speaker, aren´t you? So why don´t you use midir, Abla? Is that because mi can be used instead of midir in all cases? For example: Bu kalem mi? istead of Bu kalem midir?   Abla is not a native speaker. But I am. Using midir, you can ask your question in a formal way. But most of the time we dont prefer using -dir suffix. Becuase using it everywhere sounds so unnatural. You should know when or where to use it.  Beautiful Life liked this message

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456.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Apr 2014 Sat 04:26 pm   Quoting stumpy merci   Yep but dont say "merci beaucoup". Because we only know "merci" and beacoup sounds like shit (bok) in Turkish am_1010 and stumpy liked this message

Thread: E to T my attempt!

457.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Apr 2014 Sat 12:11 am   Quoting Polyglot Molamde Ikindi namazı kılacağım. I will pray Ikindi namaz on my break. Thank you   Molada ikindi namazını kılacağım. Polyglot liked this message

Thread: Weird song lyrics

458.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Apr 2014 Fri 11:50 pm Waiting for the contributions   1)Pazara kadar değil mezara kadar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41Qr3AmmJ-Y Until tomb not until sunday. This means (I will love you) untill I die not for a week.   2) Beni benden alırsan seni sana bırakmam. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKAt8o8Kg6E If you take me from me, I will not leave you to you   3)Hey Corc versene borç olmaz Maykıl bende de yok http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W2DFH22m94 Hey George give me money. No, Micheal I dont have too.   4) Dam üstünde un eler, tombul tombul memeler https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25c9RROdybI She sifts flour on roof top, (she has) fat fat boobs   5)Hey hey hey taksi bütün işlerim gitti aksi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNlQylgp9L4 Hoy hoy hoy taxi, everything went wrong.     Edited (4/5/2014) by gokuyum Edited (4/5/2014) by gokuyum Edited (4/5/2014) by gokuyum Abla liked this message

Thread: Ne güne duruyor

459.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Apr 2014 Fri 11:24 pm Also you can say it about a person who doesnt do his job or duty to express your frustration. Lillita liked this message

Thread: Ne güne duruyor

460.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Apr 2014 Fri 11:14 pm   Quoting Lillita Can someone please tell me what the expression "ne güne duruyor" means? Thank you very much in advance!   It means you can benefit form it anytime you want. Same thing can be said for a person too. You can use his/her help anytime you want. Ex 1: Bizim araba ne güne duruyor? Ex 2: Ahmet ne güne duruyor? Edited (4/4/2014) by gokuyum Edited (4/4/2014) by gokuyum Lillita liked this message

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461.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Apr 2014 Tue 09:47 pm life is not easy but it should make u a stronger person right?. now u can never tell me again that i dont know anything about ur life. i think its so sweet that u were a sheppard. i wish i was ur friend when we were children. our lives are so different. i had a really nice childhood. i cant complain at anything. but i dont understand how u can say that im selfish and only thinking about myself. i have never been a person like that and i never will be. people here loves me so much becuz im a really warm person i care about everyone with all of my heart. i never take anything for granted.   I have vertigo. Today really sucks for me. But here is one more translation attempt:   Hayat kolay değil ama bu insanı güçlü kılıyor değil mi? Artık bana senin hayatın hakkında hiçbir şey bilmediğimi asla söyleyemezsin. Bence çoban olmuş olman çok sevimli bir şey. Keşke çocukken senin arkadaşın olsaydım. Hayatlarımız çok farklı. Ben gerçekten çok hoş bir çocukluk yaşadım. Hiçbir şey hakkında şikayet edemem. Ama bana nasıl bencil olduğumu ve sadece kendimi düşündüğümü söyleyebilirsin anlamıyorum. Ben hiçbir zaman öyle bir insan olmadım ve olmayacağım. Buradaki insanlar beni sıcakkanlı olduğum ve insanları tüm kalbimle önemsediğim için çok seviyor. Ben hiçbir şeyi basite almam. nessah liked this message

Thread: translation pls

462.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Apr 2014 Tue 08:32 pm A few days ago I had some really upsetting news. Birkaç gün önce çok kötü haberler aldım. It has made me think a lot. Bu haberler beni çok düşündürdü. You never know what is going to happen in life. Hayatta neler olacağını hiç bilemezsiniz. We all need to cherish the important things and thank God for each day he gives us. Hayatımızdaki önemli insanları sevmeliyiz ve tanrımıza bizi yarattığı için şükretmeliyiz. People sometimes can take things for granted. insanlar bazen sahip oldukları şeylerin kıymetini bilmiyorlar. It is really important to enjoy life because we never know when it will all end. Hayattan zevk almalıyız çünkü hayatımızın ne zaman biteceğini hiç birimiz bilmiyoruz. From now on I am going to say " i love you" a little bit more to the people I love. Bundan sonra sevdiğim insanlara daha sık ´´seni seviyorum´´ diyeceğim. , to hug my grandparents a little bit longer before I leave. To help anybody as much as I can and i am going to cherish every moment i have. rest in peace..... i will never forget you. Gitmeden önce büyükannemlere daha sık sarılmaya çalışacağım.  yapabildiğim kadar herkese yardım etmeye çalışacağım. Her dakikamı sevmekle geçirmeye çalışacağım. Huzur içinde yat....seni asla unutmayacağım.   Only one grammar mistake. There is no need to use same possesive suffix twice. KediNero liked this message

Thread: yaparken / yapıyorken

463.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Apr 2014 Tue 08:24 pm   Quoting KediNero what is difference between yaparken and yapıyorken?   more examples:   giderken vs gidiyorken severken vs seviyorken ağlarken vs ağlıyorken     No real difference. Tenses are flexible in Turkish. You can use one for another but of course not always Edited (4/1/2014) by gokuyum KediNero and tunci liked this message

Thread: Login problem

464.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Mar 2014 Mon 10:15 pm It seems you solved the login problem at last. I know people who were not able to login almost one week. I couldnt log in for a few days too. elenagabriela and KediNero liked this message

Thread: Can anyone tell me about this?

465.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Mar 2014 Sat 02:34 am Okay here is what wikipedia says and you can go to the links in notes section for more information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6%C3%A7ek

Thread: Can anyone tell me about this?

466.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Mar 2014 Fri 09:24 pm  I remembered I cant stand watching men dancing wearing a skirt. I guess I will not change my dns Edited (3/28/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: Can anyone tell me about this?

467.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Mar 2014 Fri 09:21 pm   Quoting alameda who is Ramazan Çelik? I was under the impression this type of dancing, the men wearing skirts is called zenne dancing. Zenne beint one who immitates females. Is this the proper or correct name? Someone told me it´s called koçek dance, however I was under the impression koçek dance was done by young boys in the Ottoman times, and as there is no longer a Ottoman Empire there are no more koçek dancers, or if they are, they are very underground what comtemporary standards and all. Is the derivation of the word koçek is related to çocuk? what is this called in Turkey today? Wait for me to change my dns

Thread: ... kadar ...

468.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Mar 2014 Wed 06:44 am   Quoting ancheko Merhaba. I was wondering, what is this construction with "kadar" in the middle of a sentence, for instance: Sevdiği kadar sevilmez insan; or Gerçek olamayacak kadar güzeldi; or Seninle başa çıkabilecek kadar kendimdeyim. Could someone explain it, please? Thanks   kadar {ADV} as, as much as, as far as, so {CONJ} as much as, up to, until, till, inasmuch as, so long as {PREP} until, till, pending   "Kadar" has many meanings.    Lets translate your sentences:   Sevdiği kadar sevilmez insan A person isnt loved as much as he/she loves.   Gerçek olamayacak kadar güzeldi; It was too beautiful to be true.  Seninle başa çıkabilecek kadar kendimdeyim I am conscious enough to deal with you.   ancheko liked this message

Thread: A great religious song

469.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Mar 2014 Mon 10:36 pm   Quoting trip Evet, bu şarkı çok güzel! It is the song of a dervish, yes? The turning. The wish to be absorbed and become one with Allah.  I love the pronunciation of "Allah Allah." I think it is one of the nicest-sounding phrases in Turkish. Beautiful song! Thank you for sharing.     You are absolutely right dear. It is called waḥdat al-wujūd in Arabic. It means "unity of existence"

Thread: yapılmış vs yapıldı...

470.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Mar 2014 Mon 10:01 pm   Quoting KediNero   Can you also give me few example with patlanmış and hazırlamış just to see difference?             Making "patlamak" passive doesnt make sense. Because it has to be always active. But after you make it causitive with adding-t suffix then you can make it passive.   patla -t -mak means "to make (something) pop" patlatılmış means "something has been made pop"   Ex: Arabanın lastikleri patlatılmış. The wheels of car has been blew out ( by someone)   Note: patlamak have many meanings. Edited (3/24/2014) by gokuyum Edited (3/24/2014) by gokuyum Edited (3/24/2014) by gokuyum KediNero liked this message

Thread: yapılmış vs yapıldı...

471.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Mar 2014 Mon 05:28 am   Quoting KediNero   Hazırlanmış bir yere gidiyor gibisin. You look like you got prepared and going to somewhere.   How would you translate this sentence above?   Also i saw word patlamış mısır (popcorn). What does it mean patlamış? Why it is not patlanmış like it is hazırlanmış and not hazırlamış? We use it that way. Not every verb has to be passive. Patlamış means "popped" here.                   KediNero liked this message

Thread: yapılmış vs yapıldı...

472.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Mar 2014 Mon 03:25 am   Quoting KediNero What is difference between yapılmış and yapıldı?   more examples:   bulunmuş vs bulundu kırılmış vs kırıldı  söylenmiş vs söylendi alınmış vs alındı       Both of them are past. Both of them are passive. The differences are:   When the verb ends with -mış it means you have heard it but you havent witnessed it. When the verb ends with -dı it means you have witnessed it.   The other difference is you can use a verb ends with -mış as an adjective but you cant use a verb ends with -dı as an adjactive.   Ex: Kırılmış bardak  broken glass   KediNero liked this message

Thread: T2E

473.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Mar 2014 Mon 03:19 am   Quoting tomac My try as learner:   "Bitti" diyorsun, "Bitti lan bitti unuttum." diyorsun. Sonra radyoda bir şarkı, durakta bir siluet, tetikte bir anı ve solunda bir sızıyla irkiliyorsun.  "It´s finished", you say. "It´s finished, mate, I forgot about it". Then, you are startled by a song in the radio, a silhouette on the stop, a memory while being on guard (not sure about "being on guard" here) and ache in your left (not sure about this part too - maybe it means "ache in your heart" ?)   "Tetikte bir anı" can be translated like this: A memory always ready to appear in your mind in any moment. Ache in heart is correct. Daha bitmemiş, anlıyorsun.. It didn´t finish, you know. Bunu okuyan kişi; Seni tanımıyorum. Şuan kimle, nerde, ne yapıyorsun bilmiyorum. Ama tek bildiğim; bu dünyada yaşayan diğer herkes gibi canını sıkan bazı şeyler olduğu..  To one reading this. I don´t know you. I don´t know what, where and with whom you are doing now. But I know one thing - I know that there are a few things which bother you, just like everyone else in this world. Birincisi; yaşadığın her neyse, o şeyin geçeceğini unutma.  First; whatever you went through, remember that it will pass. İkincisi de; her zaman değerli olduğunu bil.  Second; always know that you are valuable (person). Son olarak, şunu da unutma; sen neleri atlatmadın ki?.. Finally, don´t forget this either: (really not sure about this part -> ) is there anything that you haven´t overcome yet? (I don´t know how to translate this well, but I think the meaning is: you have overcome many things so far, why shouldn´t you overcome this one?) Yes.         tomac liked this message

Thread: what does this means

474.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Mar 2014 Mon 03:10 am I have a different version too. But I will keep it to myself elenagabriela and nessah liked this message

Thread: Kedi olalı bir fare yakalamış / tutmuş

475.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Mar 2014 Sun 10:53 am   Quoting Lillita Herkese merhaba!    I would need help with the translation of the following expression: kedi olalı bir fare yakalamış / tutmuş. I can´t really provide a good context, it came up in a conversation that was about people who usually don´t do anything productive, except for a few scarce exceptions.    Yardımınız için şimdiden çok teşekkür ederim!! İyi günler!    He caught his first mouse since he had been a cat.    This is a saying. It means "He achieved something important or good at last". Lillita liked this message

Thread: Ömür dediğim

476.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Mar 2014 Sat 11:22 pm   Quoting Abla I like the TRT Haber dokument Omür dediğim very much. Old people tell about their lives, with no hurry, with their own voice. Laugh and cry.   The document is actually a cultural journey. In our countries old people are often seen as a burden, an item of expenditure. No one has the time to listen to their fascinating life stories and things they have learned from hardships.   Ömür dediğim also always has some beautiful music in it. The lyrics of folk songs get a deeper meaning when reflected against these old people´s slow flow of life.   I watched one episode tonight.    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRVVIr03D44

Thread: T2E pls

477.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Mar 2014 Fri 10:08 pm   Quoting nessah thanks gokuyum       You are welcome dear.

Thread: T2E

478.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Mar 2014 Fri 10:07 pm   Quoting nessah Herkes, insanlığın genel iyilik halini artırmak için küçük de olsa hatta küçücük de olsa çaba sarfetmelidir. Sakın ahlak kurallarını çiğnemeyin çünkü öcünü çabuk alır. Menfaat karşılığı yapılan iyilik, iyilik değildir. İyilik, sebep ve netice zincirinin dışındadır. Eğer bir keder, hiddet, öfke hissedersen bil ki ya sevmemen gereken birşeyi seviyorsun ya da aksine sevmen gerken birşeyi sevmiyorsun. Kimse kimseyi küçümseyecek kadar büyük değildir bilmelisin. Küçümsediğin her şey için gün gelir, önemsediğin bir bedel ödersin. Eğer iyiliğin bir nedeni varsa, artık o iyilik değildir; eğer sonuçları yani ödülü varsa, yine iyilik değil demektir. Bundan ötürü iyilik, sebep ve sonuç zincirinin dışındadır. Sana karşı suçluyum! Ya seni daha çok sevmeliydim; ya da sana, beni sevme iznini vermemeliydim. Gerek yokken yanındalar, ihtiyacın olduğunda uzakta. Unutma ki, Kimi hayatına girdiğinde hayatını aydınlatır, kimisi çıktığında. Herkes insanlığın kötüye gittiğini kabul eder de; kimse kendisinin kötüye gittiğini kabul etmez. Bir kadının kaderi; sevdiği adamın ihanetiyle, sevmediği adamın sadakatı arasında çizilir.   Too many big words, too little meaning. It is a waste of time

Thread: T2E pls

479.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Mar 2014 Fri 09:26 am   Quoting nessah İyi kadınlar kolay kolay gitmez… Good women dont go easily. Zoru görünce terk etmez hemen öyle.. They dont leave quickly when they face with a hardship. Ama eğer gitmeyi kafasına koymuşsa; Gider eninde sonunda…! But if they are determined on going, they go no matter what. Yine de gitmeden önce etrafına bir bakınır, Gidişine üzülecek,gücenecek var mı diye.. But still they look around them to see if there is someone who will be upset or offended by their departure before they go. Ağlaya ağlaya da olsa,onuru için gider… They go for their honour eventhough they cry. Ama asla sakat bırakmaz giderken.. But they never leave you handicapped when they are going. Gidiyorsa eğer,varlığının değerini görmediği içindir… If they are going that is because they dont think their existance is appreciated.  Orada var olmanın bir şeye değmediğini anladığı içindir…! That is because they understand that being there isnt worth anything.       nessah liked this message

Thread: Dardanelles Naval Victory

480.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Mar 2014 Thu 01:52 am http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_52857 Elisabeth and tunci liked this message

Thread: Chess and a very sensitive historical issue between Turks and Armenians

481.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Mar 2014 Thu 01:33 am   Quoting denizli Why does Turkey claim this was not genocide? Do most Turkish people claim this was not genocide?   I am just tying to understand, I have limited knowledge on the subject.   Because we believe we didnt do a programmed ethnic cleansing like Nazis. We sent Armenians to exile. And a lot of people died on the roads because of illness and poor conditions. Armenians say this was a genocide. We say it was an neccessary exile. Because they betrayed us and became allies with our enemies. Of course they dont accept this. It is now impossible to come to an agreement about events. Both sides think they are right. So I leave the judgement to the God. I dont accuse all Armenians and I believe that many innocent Armenians died too like many innocent Turks. If handsome truely believes Armenians will not want land, all I can say is this would be a very optimistic approach. Edited (3/20/2014) by gokuyum Edited (3/20/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: i need help

482.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Mar 2014 Sun 03:00 am   Quoting tararojer you can access youtube video with proxy website like http://proxymonster.us copy and paste your youtube url in text field and click surf. you can also unblock all restricted website in turkey.    That was a very quick response

Thread: Books

483.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Mar 2014 Sun 02:54 am I think you should read Sait Faik Abasıyanık.

Thread: 50 signs you´ve been in Turkey too long

484.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Mar 2014 Sun 02:48 am Most important sign is that you were born 30 years ago in Turkey and have never been abroad Edited (3/16/2014) by gokuyum Leo S, evchron, denizli and elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: Help

485.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Mar 2014 Sun 02:42 am   Quoting KediNero There is almost two years since i became to learn turkish language.   Would it be correct to say Türk dilini neredeyse iki yıldır öğreniyor olalı?       Türk dilini öğrenmeye başlayalı neredeyse iki yıl olacak. KediNero liked this message

Thread: E to T a few more

486.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Mar 2014 Sat 07:09 pm   Quoting denizli long winter -uzun kış or is kış uzun better? Adjactives always come before nouns in Turkish. So "uzun kış" is correct. If you say "kış uzun" it means "winter is long". lots of snow today - bugün çok kar var correct It has been a long winter - ? Uzun bir kıştı. I understood snow storm is kar fırtınası. But any idea when I use possessive in these cases? I just wouldn´t have thought that the snow is owned by the storm. Well instead of thinking it as a possesive suffix, think it as a clause suffix. Kar fırtınası is a noun clause. Read about noun clauses in Turkish.   http://www.turkishclass.com/turkish_lesson_68 http://www.turkishlanguage.co.uk/suffix.htm     Edited (3/15/2014) by gokuyum denizli liked this message

Thread: Keep the change?

487.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Mar 2014 Sat 06:55 pm You can ask "Para üstünü alabilir miyim?" If they give it without making a fuss than it is okay. But if they dont, then dont go there anymore. And it is always best to give the exact price so always have change on you. There are greedy and generous people everywhere. I dont go to the places of greedy people. Edited (3/15/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: I found this on a postcard...

488.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Mar 2014 Thu 09:07 pm   Quoting tomac So does it mean something like: You are my not-to-be-given-up-on ? Like: You are something that I won´t ever give up on?   I wonder how does this word "feel/look like" for Turkish native speaker? Is it something completely natural, or something more like wordplay? Or maybe both? Or none?   It doesnt sound natural. It sounds fancy and poetic.

Thread: I found this on a postcard...

489.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Mar 2014 Thu 12:43 am   Quoting Abla Vazgeçilmezimsin.   It is understandable but is it well-formed?   Yes it is.   vaz geç-il-mez-im-sin

Thread: kaybetmek,sabretmek,hissetmek,dans etmek...meaning of etmek

490.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Mar 2014 Mon 07:48 pm etmek is an auxillary verb. When you use it with borrowed foreign nouns, it turns them into verbs. Instead of taking verbs from another language, we take nouns and turn them into verbs which are compitable with Turkish grammar. Edited (3/10/2014) by gokuyum Edited (3/10/2014) by gokuyum KediNero liked this message

Thread: bir siz, bir ben

491.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Mar 2014 Sun 11:39 pm one you one me

Thread: Magnificent Century Soundtrack Album

492.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Mar 2014 Thu 09:40 pm   Quoting daid does anyone have the translation for Haticenin Nenni  _ Nenni Desem Uyorm´ola    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz6oir0mm40       Nenni dersem uyur mu ola  If I say nenni, will he sleep? Üstüne güller gelir mu ola  Will roses fall on him? Benim yavrum büyür mu ola Will my baby grow up? Uyu desem uyur mu ola If I say sleep, will he sleep? Benim yavrum büyür mü ola Will my baby grow up? Nenni nenni e kuzum nenni Nenni nenni o my lamb nenni Ormanlardan geçemedim I couldnt pass through forests Ben yavrumu seçemedim I couldnt see my baby. Her derdine yetemedim I couldnt deal with all his troubles   Nenni nenni e kuzum nenni Nenni nenni o my lamb nenni Her derdine yetemedim I couldnt deal with all his troubles   Nenni nenni e kuzum nenni. Nenni neni o my lamb nenni Edited (3/6/2014) by gokuyum daid liked this message

Thread: Magnificent Century Soundtrack Album

493.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Mar 2014 Thu 09:30 pm   Quoting giz i like them too but i like this song most.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRuSOTKb5a4   Zahid Bizi Tan Eyleme  Hak İsmin Okur Dilimiz  Sakın Efsane Söyleme  Hazrete Varır Yolumuz    Fundamentalist, dont curse us Our tongues read the name Hakk Don tell us fairy tales Our road goes to his excellency. Edited (3/6/2014) by gokuyum daid liked this message

Thread: Hakkında

494.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Mar 2014 Thu 06:09 pm Hakk has 12 meanings in Ottoman dictionary: http://www.osmanlicaturkce.com/?k=hakk&t=%40   I guess here the second meaning suits: 2. Dava ve iddia. cause and claim.   What do you think about his cause or claim? I guess this sentence turned into this one: What do you think about him?   But this is my theory     Edited (3/6/2014) by gokuyum Edited (3/6/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: A great religious song

495.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Mar 2014 Thu 05:31 pm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKT8wM_a6MU   Ya Rabbi aşkın ver bana efendim Ya Rabbi aşkın ver bana efendim Hu diyeyim Allah Allah döne döne Aşık olayım ben sana efendim Aşık olayım ben sana efendim Hu diyeyim Allah Allah döne döne O Lord give me your love O Lord give me your love Let me say Hu whirling Allah Allah Let me fall in love with you my Lord Let me fall in love with you my Lord. Let me say Hu whirling Allah Allah Koma hiç benliğim bende efendim Koma hiç benliğim bende efendim Varlığım yok Allah Allah eyle sende Seni görüp her mekanda efendim Seni görüp her mekanda efendim Hu diyeyim Allah Allah döne döne Dont let my  indivituality reamin in me Dont let my  indivituality reamin in me Destroy my existence in you Allah Allah Seeing you in every place my Lord Seeing you in every place my Lord Let me say Hu whirling Allah Allah Mevlam koma beni bana efendim Mevlam koma beni bana efendim Al gönlümü Allah Allah senden yana Müştakın olu ben sana efendim Müştakın olu ben sana efendim Hu diyeyim Allah Allah döne döne O Lord dont let me be alone  with myself O Lord dont let me be alone with myself Take my heart to your side Allah Allah Let me be your adorer Let me be your adorer Let me say Hu whirling Allah Allah. Seyyit Nizamoğlu kuldur efendim Seyyit Nizamoğlu kuldur efendim Gerek dirilt Allah Allah gerek öldür Aşkınla gönlümü doldur efendim Aşkınla gönlümü doldur efendim Hu diyeyim Allah Allah döne döne Seyyid Nizamoğlu is your slave my Lord Seyyid Nizamoğlu is your slave my Lord Whether revive or kill him Fill my heart with your love my Lord Fill my heart with your love my Lord Let me Say Hu whirling Allah Allah. Edited (3/6/2014) by gokuyum Edited (3/6/2014) by gokuyum Edited (3/6/2014) by gokuyum Edited (3/6/2014) by gokuyum Edited (3/6/2014) by gokuyum Edited (3/6/2014) by gokuyum Edited (3/6/2014) by gokuyum Edited (3/6/2014) by gokuyum Edited (3/24/2014) by gokuyum alameda and trip liked this message

Thread: t2e pls

496.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Mar 2014 Wed 09:12 pm   Quoting nessah İyi bir kadın bir erkeği etkiler zeki bir kadın onda ilgi uyandırır güzel bir kadın büyüler anlayışlı bir kadın ise ona sahip olur.   A good woman impresses a man. A smart woman arouses his interest. A beautiful woman charms him An understanding woman has him.       Özleminin Yandığı Gecelerde Sana Aşık Daldım Uykulara.. Bir Tek Seni Sevdim Hayatımda Bu Kadar.. Ömürlük Sevdim.. Öyle Her Bahar Aşık Olmam Ben.. Başımda Kavak Yellerinin Estiği Zamanlar Çoktan Geçti.. Geçti de Seni Bana Getirmedi Zaman   I dived into dreams in love with you at the nights when longing burnt I have only loved you this much in my life I have loved you for a whole life I dont fall in love in every spring like the others Because the times of wool gathering have already passed for me But time hasnt brought you to me.         Edited (3/5/2014) by gokuyum Gulumyavrum and nessah liked this message

Thread: T2E

497.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Mar 2014 Wed 08:58 pm   Quoting nessah Doğru Eş...Uzun zaman flört ettiğin kişi değildir. Zor zamanların da hep yanında olacağını bildiğin, Dertlerini, sevinçlerini paylaşabileceği n, Olaylara bakış açısına güvendiğin, Senin fikirlerine saygı duyan, konuşmaktan sıkılmayacağın, hayata küstüğün zaman seni kabuğundan çıkarabilen Gözlerine baktığında ne söylemek istediğini anlayan kişidir.   A good partner (husband or wife) is not the one you have flirted for a long time.He/she is the person who you know he/she will be always with you in the difficult times, who you can share your troubles and joys, who you trust in his/her perspective about events, who respects your ideas, who you will not get bored of his/her talk, who  can unshell you when you feel powerless to go on living, who can understand what you want to say when he/she looks at your eyes.   I hated this translation with so many whos   Edited (3/5/2014) by gokuyum nessah and elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: T2e

498.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Mar 2014 Wed 08:48 pm   Quoting nessah Beni kınama, cunku kınadıgını yasamadan ölmezsin derler. Ve lütfen, cok ugrasma cunku sadece yasadıkların kadar bilebilirsin beni. gerisi sadece sandıkların.     Dont condemn me because it is said that you dont die before you live what you condemned. ANd please dont struggle a lot because you can only know me as much as what you have lived (with me). Others are only your assumptions. Edited (3/5/2014) by gokuyum nessah liked this message

Thread: Hakkında

499.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Mar 2014 Wed 08:40 pm   Quoting tunci   Hakkında with pronouns Pronoun + possessive suffix  +  hak+ k + personal marking + da[de] *Note that, the middle consonant "k" doubles when it takes vowel.    Ben      + im         +   hakkımda  Literally---->  In about of me ---> About me    Sen    +  in          + hakkında ----> About you    O  + n +  un         + hakkında ----> About him/her  * Note that buffer "n" comes before possesive suffix.   Bizim  hakkımızda ---> About us Sizin  hakkınızda  ---> About you [plural] Onların  hakkında ---> About them *Note that  with 3th plural person we don´t normally put "lar".   Hakkında with person names Person name +  hakkında Atatürk hakkında ---> About Atatürk Sezin  hakkında  ---> About Sezin Kenan hakkında ---> About Kenan   Hakkında with place/ things Name of place/ thing  +  hakkında Amerika  hakkında  ---> About America İstanbul  hakkında  ---> About Istanbul İstanbul hakkında bir kitap yazdı. ---> He/She  wrote a book about Istanbul. Bu durum  hakkında ---> About this situation   Yeah k is doubled there but I think it is because it is pronounced with double k in Arabic.. We dont write the word with double k when it is alone in Turkish but when we add a suffix after it we pronounce the second k. I guess there are some other examples too. This is an interesting gramatical event. It doesnt happen with every k. Edited (3/5/2014) by gokuyum Edited (3/5/2014) by gokuyum trip liked this message

Thread: Suffixes

500.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Mar 2014 Wed 08:18 pm   Quoting am_1010 Merhaba. Nasılsın herkese?  Can anyone translate this list of suffixes to their Turkish suffixes? Suffixes that make nouns: 1. -ance, -ence (like appearance, difference) 2. -ee (like employee) 3. -er, -or (like teacher, creator) 4. -ion, -tion (like attraction) 5. -ity (like clarity) 6. -ment (like enjoyment) 7. -ness (like blindness, sadness, happiness) 8. -ure (like pleasure)   Suffixes that make verbs: 1. -ate (like compensate) 2. -ify (like amplify, simplify) 3. -ize (like criticize, realize)   Suffixes that make adjectives: 1. -able, -ible (like adorable, loveable, capable) 2. -al, -ial (like nocturnal)  3. -en (like wooden) 4. -ese (like vietnamese) 5. -ian (like Jordanian, Syrian) 6. -ful (like wonderful) 7. -ic (like academic) 8. -ish (like reddish) 9. -ive (like replusive) 10. -less (like worthless, useless) 11. -ous, -ious (like prestigious) 12. -y (like thrifty)   That´s all.  Teşekkürler! İyi günler, iyi akşamlar ve iyi geceler You cant translate suffixes. You cant find exact equivalents of them. So I will just give you some links:   Suffixes that make nouns from verbs http://www.edebiyatsayfasi.com/isimden-fiil-yapan-ekler/   Suffixes that makes nouns from nouns: http://www.edebiyatsayfasi.com/isimden-isim-yapan-ekler/   Suffixes that make verbs from nouns: http://www.edebiyatsayfasi.com/fiilden-isim-yapan-ekler/   Suffixes that make verbs from verbs: http://www.yenimakale.com/fiilden-fiil-yapan-ekler.html   Suffixes that make adjactives from nouns: http://www.netfikir.net/2010/09/isimden-sifat-yapan-ekler-addan-sifat.html   Suffixes that make adjactives from verbs: http://www.diledebiyat.net/kelime-bilgisi/kelime-turleri/fiilimsiler/sifat-fiiller         Edited (3/5/2014) by gokuyum Edited (3/5/2014) by gokuyum Edited (3/5/2014) by gokuyum am_1010, tunci, elenagabriela and tomac liked this message

Thread: Hakkında

501.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Mar 2014 Wed 11:50 am Here is a short explanation:   hakk-ın-da       -ın is possesive(2. and 3. person) suffix hakk-ım-da       -ım is possesive (1. person) suffix   hakkında can be translated as "about him/her/it" or "about you" hakkımda can be translated as "about me" Edited (3/5/2014) by gokuyum trip, * Lamda* and tunci liked this message

Thread: T to E please

502.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Feb 2014 Fri 06:42 pm I think this person sees charlatanry as a some kind of mental exercise. Edited (2/28/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: T to E please

503.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Feb 2014 Fri 06:37 pm   Quoting am_1010 Biraz şarlatanlık , iyi kullanılırsa , zekaya da yarar ... A little charlatanry is useful for the intelligence too if it is used good.

Thread: selam use

504.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Feb 2014 Fri 06:32 pm I havent heard it used in daily speech that way. But we say "selametle". Ex: Selametle git. Go within peace.   Or you can just say selametle without saying git.   Edited (2/28/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/28/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/28/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/28/2014) by gokuyum elenagabriela and tunci liked this message

Thread: Present Continuous (-ing)

505.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Feb 2014 Fri 06:27 pm Geniş zaman = aorist tense Şimdiki zaman = present continous tense

Thread: translate please.

506.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Feb 2014 Fri 06:23 pm   Quoting ayosh "temenni boyutunda bir sarki." thank you   This doesnt make any sense to me. But I will translate. A song in the size of a wish.  or A song in the dimension of a wish. Edited (2/28/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: T to E - turkish childhood song

507.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Feb 2014 Fri 06:16 pm I only know this children song including numbers and it is very innocent Mini mini birler Çalışkan ikiler Tembel üçler Dayak yiyen dörtler Misafirdir beşler Altılar altınımı çaldılar Yediler yemeğimi yediler Sekizler seksek olup gittiler Dokuzlar doktor olup çıktılar Onlar kırmızı donlar   foka and tunci liked this message

Thread: T to E - turkish childhood song

508.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Feb 2014 Fri 03:54 pm   Quoting iodine bir ,iki ,üçler yaşasın türkler dört, beş, altı polonya battı yedi, sekiz, dokuz ruslar domuz on ,on bir ,on iki amerika tilki on üç ,on dört ,on beş araplar kalleş on altı ,on yedi ,on sekiz hapı yuttu porteekizzz...   This is very racist. I have never heard such a children song. Where did you find this? Edited (2/28/2014) by gokuyum tunci liked this message

Thread: E to T

509.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Feb 2014 Fri 11:33 am   Quoting denizli So I went to the Döner today. I said to them "Sandhills´de çocuklarınız çalışıyorlar mı?"   They said çalismak was not appropriate in this case since I was referring to Children attending the school. Is it appropriate to say "nerede çalişiyor musun?"? for school? only for University?   Yeah they are right. I only checked your sentences gramatically and told you they were right. But  I have noticed now that semantically they are wrong. "To study" means "okumak" in those sentences.   Let me give you examples:   Do your children study in this school? Çocuklarınız bu okulda mı okuyorlar?   Do you study at university? Üniversitede mi okuyorsun?   Actually okumak means "to read" but we use it in the meaning of "to study" too.   If you want to ask someone if he is studying in the sense of doing his homeworks or reading a textbook then you should ask like this:   Do you study? Ders mi çalışıyosun?   Note: I put these mi´s(question words) not at the end of the sentences but after what I want to emphasize.  Let me give you an example:   For example: Do they study in Sandhill ? Sandhill´de mi okuyorlar?   I want to learn if they study in Sandhill. So I emphasize Sandhill putting the question word after it. If I put it after the verb, then I would be emphasizing the verb.       Edited (2/28/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/28/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/28/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/28/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/28/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/28/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/28/2014) by gokuyum denizli liked this message

Thread: Please help! Turkish to English

510.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Feb 2014 Thu 11:18 am   Quoting jade_jade Lütfen siz de onun yolundan ilerleyin ve bunu herkese tanıtın. Onun yaptığını yapıp tüm ülkeye sözlerinizi anlatın. Bizler, sizin hep takipçileriniz olacağız   Please you too walk on his road and introduce this to everybody. Doing what he did, tell your words to whole country. We will always be your followers. jade_jade liked this message

Thread: t-e please!

511.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Feb 2014 Thu 11:10 am   Quoting Lololooo Hi everyone I would like to have this poem translated if possible thank you in advance   Yine Sana Dair   Again concerning you Sende, ben, kutba giden bir geminin sergüzeştini,   I love the journey of a ship going to north pole in you. sende, ben, kumarbaz macerasını keşiflerin,   I love the risky adventures of discoveries in you sende uzaklığı,   I love the distance in you sende, ben, imkansızlığı seviyorum.  I love the impossibility in you. Güneşli bir ormana dalar gibi dalmak gözlerine  ve kan ter içinde, aç ve öfkeli,  ve bir avcı istihasıyla etini dişlemek senin.  To enter your eyes like entering a forest suddenly and to bite your flesh with the appetite of a hunter when I am very sweaty, hungry and angry. Sende, ben, imkansızlığı seviyorum,  I love the impossibility in you  fakat asla ümitsizliği değil... But never the hopelessness.     Lololooo liked this message

Thread: T to E please!!

512.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Feb 2014 Thu 10:46 am   Quoting am_1010 What does this mean:  Mor çatıyı inşaat firması sanan kadınlarımız da var simdi ...   and what can you say in reply?    Now there are women who think Mor Çatı(purple roof) is a construction firm.   Mor Çatı is a foundation that gives refuge to women who were mistreated by their husbands.

Thread: turkish to english please!

513.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Feb 2014 Tue 01:47 pm   Quoting christina kas yarim elden gidiyo mavilim mavilim kalk gidelim feneri yak gidelim mavilim bizimle gelen olmaz  sılayı terkedelim mavilim   I am losing my beloved, my blue eyed My blue-eyed, lets go Light the candle and lets go my blue-eyed Nobody will come with us Lets leave our land my blue-eyed.

Thread: what does this means

514.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Feb 2014 Tue 01:05 pm   Quoting nessah seni kaybetmek korkusu beni biraz agresiflestirdi bu sana cok baglandigimdan kaynaklaniyor. The fear of losing you have made me a little agressive. That is because I am very devoted to you.   seni bile bile kaybedemem ne olur yapma böyle bisey bitirmeyelim bu aski I cant lose you intentionaly(knowingly). Please dont do such a thing. Lets not finish this love.     Edited (2/26/2014) by gokuyum nessah and tomac liked this message

Thread: Zor Değil -- Mabel Matiz

515.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Feb 2014 Tue 12:58 pm   Quoting trip Selam! I am back with another song. This time I have discovered Mabel Matiz. I love his song "Zor Değil," and I have tried to translate the lyrics, but as usual I need your help. For instance, I know that "köşeyi dönmek" means more than just "to turn the corner." It means to make good, to attain what you are seeking, yes? But I feel like the literal meaning works better here. What do you think? And in the first line of the song, I know from the dictionary that "bol keseden atmak" means "to make extravagant promises, to scatter promises around." Is he using "sallamak" here just to change things up, or is something else going on? As always, I appreciate your help. Teşekkürler! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sXRQttLj-s Zor Değil Sallıyorum bol keseden -- I am waving promises around.  Sağa sola, zor değil -- To the right, to the left. It´s not difficult. Atıyorum, tutuyorum -- I´m throwing, I´m holding. Kâh tutamıyorum, zor değil -- Sometimes I can´t hold. It´s not difficult. Dönüyorum köşeleri -- I am turning the corners. Dört köşeli, zor değil -- With four corners, it´s not difficult. Vuruyorum dizlerime -- I am knocking my knees. Ah pata-küte zor değil -- Ah biff bam. It´s not difficult. Katıyorum tozu dumana da -- And I add dust to the haze. Toz değil, toz değil -- Not dust, not dust. Biliyorum hepsi havagazı -- I know all of the empty talk. Söz değil, ah söz değil -- Not words, ah not words. Deniyordum seni -- I was testing you, Sen seversin bunu -- You love this. Sevmediysen peki -- If you didn´t love me, well, Sen tamamla sonu -- You fill in the end. Halk ararsan çık saraydan -- If you long for people, come out of the palace. Ağlıyorsan dön yolundan -- If you weep, turn from the road.  Aşka dair konuşursan -- If you speak about love ...  Gerisini sen tamamla -- You finish the rest.       1) sallamak, atıp tutmak have similar meanings. They mean exaggerating things or telling lies. 2) köşeyi dönmek means to become rich but in an easy and corrupt way. 3)tozu dumana katmak means to raise a ruckus. Now you can try translating this poem again. Edited (2/25/2014) by gokuyum tomac liked this message

Thread: i need help with something pls!! not translation

516.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Feb 2014 Tue 07:43 am   Quoting nessah thanks ur an angel.     Yep I guess I am

Thread: turkish to english please!!!! mavilim maviselim,please translate!!

517.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Feb 2014 Tue 07:18 am   Quoting christina kas Mavilim mavişelim Tenhada buluşalım mavilim Kurban olduğum allah Tez gönder kavuşalım mavilim Mavilim her gidiyor Hergini terk ediyor mavilim Hergin başını yesin Mavilim mavişelim Tenhada buluşalım mavilim Feneri yak gidelim mavilim.Q   My blue eyed lets get blue Lets meet in somewhere desolate. O the God for who I sacrafice myself  Please send her quick, lets come together my blue eyed. My blue eyed plows the field. She leaves her field. May your field cause you trouble.   My blue eyed, lets get blue Lets meet in somewhere desolete Light the candle, lets go, my blue eyed.

Thread: i need help with something pls!! not translation

518.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Feb 2014 Tue 06:55 am http://www.herseyhediye.com/Kisiye-Ozel-Gumus-Takilar,LA_303-2.html#labels=303-2 I found this one. They put names on jeweleries. nessah liked this message

Thread: translatıon Turkish to englissh

519.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Feb 2014 Sun 12:29 pm   Quoting harp00n Badim görmedim. Sorry   Estağfirullah efendim. Ne demek

Thread: translatıon Turkish to englissh

520.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Feb 2014 Sun 12:19 pm There is a saying in Turkish: Blind wanted one eye, God gave him two eyes. Now you have two translations

Thread: translatıon Turkish to englissh

521.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Feb 2014 Sun 12:14 pm   Quoting darinka Lütfen  bu ayetleri ingilizce tercüme etmek  için  yardım edebilir misiniz  ?  teşekkür  ederim  Sızlanma kalbin her yara aldığında  Don´t whine every time your heart gets wounded Karamsarlığı eşiğine bile uğratma  Dont even let pessimism come close to you Ve kimsenin gölgesine sığınma.  And dont take refuge in anyone´s shadow. Tırnaklarınla kanatırcasına   With your nails, almost making them bleed Sımsıkı sarıl umuduna  Embrace your hope tightly. Ve diklen zemheri ayaza. And stand against the freezing cold.   These are not ayets darinka. We only call Quranic verses ayets.   Edited (2/23/2014) by gokuyum darinka liked this message

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522.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Feb 2014 Sat 09:43 pm   Quoting dilliduduk     Here is a modernized version, in case it helps you improve your translation   http://www.nkfu.com/sehzade-mustafa-mersiyesi-gunumuz-turkcesi-taslicali-yahya/ Thank you for this. It helped me understand some lines. But there are some big differences between two poems. I wonder why is that?

Thread: Magnificent Century Soundtrack Album

523.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Feb 2014 Sat 10:43 am   Quoting AzerbayCan61 Iam Shiite Azerbaijani,all of these songs belong to the Alevis.   You are right. But that doesnt mean Sunnis dont like these songs.  Despite Ottoman family was Sunni, Janissaries were Bektashis. That explains the Alevi background of the songs.   Here is some information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bektashi_Order   Edited (2/22/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: Magnificent Century Soundtrack Album

524.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Feb 2014 Sat 08:35 am http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_vmV7Z7oz0   Bismişah   Bismişah Allah Allah Allah With the name of Shah. Allah, Allah, Allah.     Edited (2/22/2014) by gokuyum alameda and daid liked this message

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525.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Feb 2014 Sat 08:23 am http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNbP6-RDg7I   Jannisary Song 2   kalplerimiz mesrûr, sırlarımız mestûr,zahirimiz mâmûr, bâtınımız pür nûr ola May our hearts be joyful, may our secrets be hidden, may our bodies be strong, may our souls be full of divine light Edited (2/22/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/22/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/22/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/22/2014) by gokuyum daid liked this message

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526.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Feb 2014 Sat 08:18 am http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPqJ9oHx0_s   Janissary Song 1 - Mohac   Baş üryan, sine püryan, kılıç al kan eyvallah hü Kahrımız kılıcımız, düşmana ziyan eyvallah hü.   Head is naked, chest is burnt, sword is with blood, eyvallah hu. Our wrath is our swords, death to enemy, eyvallah hu.       Edited (2/22/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/22/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/22/2014) by gokuyum daid liked this message

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527.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Feb 2014 Sat 07:37 am http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Glh9-lQ9gYU   Kalender Shah´s Song   Pirlere Niyaz Ederiz  We Plead To Pirs(Spiritual Guides)   Allah bir Muhammed Ali  Allah is one. Muhammed, Ali. nazar eyle bari bana  At least look at me. izz-ü celalin aşkına   For the love of your excellence and glory çektirme şol zarı bana   Please dont make me cry. pirlere niyaz ederiz  We plead to pirs. yalan dünya nideriz  World is a lie. What to do? ölürüz hasret gideriz  We die and go in longing göster şol didarı bana  Show me that face. kalender ağlar yerinir Kalender cries and feels sad. aşk hayaliyle sürünür He crawls with the imagination of love. cenneti ridvan görünür It looks like heaven şol güzelin haddi bana The height of that beautiful. pirlere niyaz ederiz We plead to pirs. yalan dünya nideriz  This world is a lie. What to do? ölürüz hasret gideriz We die and go in longing göster şol didarı bana Show me that face. Edited (2/22/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/22/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/22/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/22/2014) by gokuyum alameda, KediNero and thehandsom liked this message

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528.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Feb 2014 Sat 07:37 am There are many great songs in this album. I recommend you to buy it. https://itunes.apple.com/tr/album/muhtesem-yuzy-vol.1-orijinal/id646983262 I will translate some songs I like a lot here in this topic.     Edited (2/22/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/22/2014) by gokuyum alameda, daid, Nadya. and giz liked this message

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529.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Feb 2014 Sat 07:07 am   Quoting am_1010 someone please translate this song for me tesekkurler   Ah Sen Bilmedin  Ah You Didnt kNow ansızın bir sabah öyle çekipte gitti  All of a sudden one morning he walked off umutları darmadağın edipte gitti  He walked off cluttering every hope. yüreğimi kederlere salıpta gitti  He walked off putting my heart in troubles. yandı gönül yandı böyle ah sen bilmedin   My heart burnt, it burnt but you didnt know. çektiğim derdi cefayı sen görmedin  You didnt see the troubles and cruelties I suffered. hasretin yağmura döndü ah silmedin  Your longing had turned into a rain, you didnt wipe it. zamansız gülüşler büyür şimdi kentimde   Untimely laughs grow now in my city. yalnız hatıralar kaldı ellerimde  Only memories have reamined in my hands. bulutlar yağmura döndü gözlerimde The clouds have turned into rain on my eyes. beni uzaklaştırmaya çalışırken  When you are trying to cast me out aklından geçenleri seviyorum I like the things you have in your mind. bizden büyük tanrısı yok yalnızlığın Loneliness dont have a bigger god other than us getirdiğin hevesi ***ürdüğün imkanı seviyorum.. I love the enthuiasm you have brought and the opportunnity you have spat.     Edited (2/22/2014) by gokuyum

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530.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Feb 2014 Thu 09:24 am   Quoting nessah i will tell u a secret that i never told anyone. when i was 16 or something like that, i used to go to a cafe here with my friends, we went there every week. and a man who worked there, i fell in love with him so much, first time i saw him, and i could see the way he was looking at me that he liked me too. i can still remember his face and his smile like it was yesterday. anyway, then i found out that he was married. so i left and i never went back to the cafe again. after some months or a year, i dont remember, i was going to a shop near the cafe, and i saw that he and his family didnt worked in the cafe anymore, they had sold it to someone else. i felt a little sad, but it was good it happend. i respected his wife. today i have no feelings left for him. and i hope he is happy with his family forever. im happy that i didnt tried anything with him. this is how good girls act, this is the kind of girl u can always trust. !!   (ok now everyone knows) This is very innocent. I dont consider it a secret. So dont worry I have a toothache. I cant think now. I will translate it later. Edited (2/20/2014) by gokuyum Khaur and nessah liked this message

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531.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Feb 2014 Thu 12:39 am This is a very difficult poem to translate. This poem is written in Otoman language. There are many old words and some very weird expressions dont make sense in English an even in Turkish. There are ambiguities in some sentences. So I made some guesses. I hope my translation makes sense.       Meded meded bu cihanın yıkıldı bir yanı     Help, help one side of this world has been demolished.       Ecel celâlîleri aldı Mustafa Hânı,     Celalis of death took Khan Mustafa.       Tolundu mihr-i cemâli bozuldu divânı     The sun of his beauty set, his council dissolved.       Vebâle koydular âl ile Âl-i Osmânı     With deceit they made the family of Ottoman carry this horrible consequence       Geçerler idi geçende ol merd-i meydânı      They were backbiting him when that bravest man was mentioned.       Felek o canibe döndürdü şah-ı devrânı     Fate turned the Shah of the world to their side.       Yalancının kuru bühtânı buğz-i pinhânı     The slander of the liar and his hidden grudge       Akıtdı yaşımızı yakdı nâr-ı hicrânı     Made us shed tears and it lighted the fire of seperation.       Cinayet etmedi cani gibi anın cânı     He didnt murder anyone like a blood-thirsty man        Boğuldu seyl-i belaya tağıldı erkânı     He got drowned in the flood of calamity, his men disbanded.       N’olaydı görmeye idi bu macerâyı gözüm     I wish my eyes had not seen this event.       Yazıklar ana revâ görmedi bu râyı gözüm     Woes. This judgement was not fit for him.       Tonandı ağlar ile nurdan menâra dönüp    He got decorated with whites like a minaret made of light.       Küşâde-hatırr idi şevk ile nehâra dönüp     He was open-hearted like the morning.       Göründü halka dıraht-ı şukufezâra dönüp     He appeared to the people like a tree in a flower garden.         Yürüdü kulları ardınca lalezâra dönüp     He walked among his people like a tulip garden.       Tururdu hiddet ile şah-ı cihan nâra dönüp     Shah of the world was standing with anger like fire       Otağı haymelei karlı kühsâra dönüp     His tents were like snowy mountain tops.       Müzeyyen idi bedenlerle Akhisâr’a dönüp     They were decorated with bodies like Akhisar       El öpmeye yürüdü mihr-i bi-karâra dönüp     He walked towards the unstable sun to kiss his hands.       Tutuldu gelmedi çünkim o mâh-pâre dönüp      He didnt come back because he turned into an eclipsed moon       Görenler ağladılar ebr-i nevbahâra dönüp     People who had seen this cried like spring clouds.       Bir ejderha-yı dü-serdir bu hayme-i dünyâ     This tent of world is like a two headed dragon.       Dehânına düşen olur hemişe nâ-peydâ     One who falls into its mouth disappears.       Getirdi arkasını yine Zâl-i devr-i zamân     That dragon beated the Zal of the time  again.        Vücûduna sitem-i Rüstem ile erdi ziyân     The harm came to his body from the cruelty of Rüstem.       Döküldü gözyaşı yıldızları çoğaldı figân     The stars of tears were shed, lamentations increased.       Dem-i memâtı kıyamet gününde oldu nişân     The moment of his death has become a sign in the judgement day.       Giriv ü nâle vü zâr ile toldu kevn ü mekân     Everywhere has been filled with cries, sighs and tears       Akarsu gibi müdâm ağlamakta pir ü cüvân     Old and young everyone cries without stopping       Vücûd iline akın saldı akdı eşk-i revân     The tears flooded and flew to the land of body       Eyâ serir-i saadette padişah-i cihân     I wonder if the padishah of the world is on the bed of happiness.       O cân-ı âdemiyân oldu hâk ile yeksân     He, the soul of men became earth       Diri kala ne revâdır fesâd eden şeytân     Is it fair that the evil doer Satan is alive?       Nesim-i subh gibi yerde koma âhımızı     Dont put our sighs on the ground like the morning wind       Hakaret eylediler nesl-i padişâhımızı     They insulted the line of our padishah.     …     Taşıcalı Yahya Bey     Edited (2/20/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/20/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/20/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/20/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/20/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/21/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/21/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/21/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/21/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/21/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/22/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/22/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/22/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/22/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/22/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/22/2014) by gokuyum Edited (6/23/2014) by gokuyum tunci and nessah liked this message

Thread: Newbie needing translation urgently!

532.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Feb 2014 Wed 08:09 pm   Quoting elenagabriela     artık en yakın dostumuz sensin....   I am here to make life easy for you

Thread: Newbie needing translation urgently!

533.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Feb 2014 Wed 08:09 pm   Quoting Geradeti12   Sorry, just logged on again! I did copy this and forgot to respond. Why is life so busy lol.   Many thanks for the translation, it was perfect for her.   You are welcome.

Thread: doğa dostu kesim

534.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Feb 2014 Wed 08:05 pm   Quoting sufler Ok, I got it. Thank you both. gokuyum, if I were to translate the phrase according to the meaning you suggested, how would it be? A group of nature-friendly people? Yeah it would be something like that.Or you could just say "nature friendly people".   Edited (2/19/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: doğa dostu kesim

535.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Feb 2014 Wed 05:11 pm   Quoting dilliduduk   It means something like "Nature-friendly (tree) cutting" here, as that tree had to be removed due to the road but they didn´t really cut it completely, but only partially.   I didnt look at the photo. This translation is the correct one. But at least learners learnt the other meaning of kesim

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536.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Feb 2014 Wed 01:56 am   Quoting britturk Hi Ozzy please here is some information regarding the Surinder singh route.   Selam Ozzy. İşte Surinder Singh Route hakkında bazı bilgiler....

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537.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Feb 2014 Wed 01:54 am   Quoting insallah     Google Surinder singh route   Ah it is absolutely different than what I thought. I thought she was talking about a road or place

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538.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Feb 2014 Tue 11:50 pm   Quoting britturk Hi Ozzy please here is some information regarding the Surinder singh route.   What does singh mean?

Thread: doğa dostu kesim

539.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Feb 2014 Tue 10:06 pm   Quoting sufler Merhaba. Can anyone give me an idea why the caption to THIS PICTURE, says "Doğa dostu kesim"? I can´t see any sense in this statement... "A friend of nature cut"? The word "kesim" seems to be not connected in any way to the preceding words... why not "kes(i)mi"? Kesim here means a group of people. It can be big or small. If I say "Büyük bir kesim sizi destekliyor." it means "You have the support of a big group of people."

Thread: E to T

540.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Feb 2014 Mon 07:35 pm Ben işe arabayla gidiyorum. I go to work by car. Ben bisikletle geldim. I came by bicycle. Bu otomobil elektrikle çalışıyor. This car works with electricity. Yaşlı bir adam genç bir kadınla evlendi. An old man married with a young woman. Partiye kot pantalonla gelmeyin. Takım elbiseyle gelin. Dont come to part with jeans. Come with a suit. Ayran youğurtla yapılır. Ayran is made of yogurt. am_1010 liked this message

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541.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Feb 2014 Mon 06:34 pm   Quoting nessah Bir insana "neden değiştin?" demeyeceksin! Döneceksin kendine "ben ne ... Döneceksin kendine "ben ne yaptım da böyle değişti?" Sorusunu soracaksın.   You should not ask a person why he has changed. You should ask yourself what you did to make him change this way.   Edited (2/17/2014) by gokuyum nessah liked this message

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542.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Feb 2014 Mon 06:29 pm   Quoting Narin989 Does anyone understand what does this mean? Thanks ! Nereden baksan bir on bir, on iki saat uçacaksın. Konarsın... konmazsın. Takdir-i ilahi.. Hep yanımıza çağırdınız. Bu masaya oturttunuz..   You will fly approximately 11-12 hours. You will land or you wont. It depends on the will of Allah. You have always summoned us near you., You have always made us sit at this table.

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543.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Feb 2014 Mon 06:18 pm   Quoting Minaa Dert tasa bırakmaz tüy gibi hafiflersin. Zeynep pabucu yarım çık dışarıya oynayalım.. Yüzümüz gülerken, içimiz kan ağlamasa keşke. İçimiz dışımız bir olsa Ama olmuyor işte.   It will make you get rid of all your worries. You will feel light like a feather. Zeynep come outside and lets play (this is a tongue twister) I wish our soul didnt bleed when we were smiling. I wish we could not hide our thoughts. But it doesnt happen.

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544.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Feb 2014 Mon 06:08 pm   Quoting am_1010 Can someone translate this to T please:   "Your words in my head... knives in my heart... I´m only human."    Teşekkür ederim.   Kelimelerin kafamda .... bıçaklar kalbimde.... Ben sadece insanım.

Thread: bir küçük eylül meselesi

545.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Feb 2014 Sun 09:48 pm It is a very new movie. You cant find it yet. Edited (2/16/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/16/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: a poem from nazim hikmet pls!!

546.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Feb 2014 Sun 09:21 pm   Quoting nessah thanks i knew i would love it.     It is a nice poem. I like it too nessah liked this message

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547.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Feb 2014 Sun 09:18 pm   Quoting elenagabriela sen mi yazdın...güzelmiş... Lol no. I didnt write it. Someone wrote it for prince Mustafa and prince Cihangir. I dont know the writer. I just answered a translation request.   elenagabriela liked this message

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548.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Feb 2014 Sun 09:16 pm Küsmek doesnt have an exact equivalent in dictionary. It says to be offended but it is more than that in Turkish. This poem tells what it means. It is a childish thing in Turkish. Children gets offended and they dont talk to each other for a while. But actually they wait the other one to come and say he is sorry. They still want to to be friends and play together. Quoting nessah Küsmek nedir bilir misin?.. Do you know what is to be offended? Küsmek dürüstlüktür. To be offended is honesty. Çocukçadır ve ondan dolayı saftır.. It is childish and because of that it is pure. Yalansız’ dır. It is without lie. Küsmek; seni seviyorum’ dur… To be offended is "I love you" Vazgeçememektir. It is not to give up. Beni anlatır küsmek. To be offended tells me. Kızdım ama hala buradayımdır, gitmiyorumdur, gidemiyorumdur. It is "I am angry, but I am still here". It is "I dont go, I cant go". Küsmek; nazlanmaktır, yakın bulmaktır, benim için değerlisindir. To be offended is "to coquet, to feel close. It is "You are valuable for me." Küsmek, sevdiğini söyle demektir… To be offended means "Say you love me" Hadi anla demektir… It means "Understand me" Küsmek; umuttur, acabaları bitirmektir, emin olmaktır… To be offended is hope, to end suspicions, to be sure. Yani, diyeceğim o ki: What I want to say is Ben sana küstüm !.. I am offended by you.       Edited (2/16/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/16/2014) by gokuyum elenagabriela, foka and nessah liked this message

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549.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Feb 2014 Sun 09:03 pm İki büyük suçumuz var  We have two big crimes Seninle benim Cihangir  You and I,  Cihangir Biri sevmek biri sevilmek  One is to love, other is to be loved Bunca büyük suçlarla padişah olunmaz It is not possible to be a king with these so big crimes. Biz insanız Cihangir We are humans Cihangir. Bizden tahtlara han olmaz We cant be kings for the thrones. Sıcağına bak yüreğimizin Look at the warmth of our hearts. Aktıkça gözlerden gözlere As long as they flow from eyes to eyes Nasıl eritir birbirini Look how they melt eachother Tahtların karlı doruğunda On the snowy tops of the thrones.   Edited (2/16/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/16/2014) by gokuyum daid and elenagabriela liked this message

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550.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Feb 2014 Sun 01:58 pm   Quoting nessah Sevgi bir çiçekse, saygı onu koruyan saksıdır. Çiçek solmaya başlamışsa dikkat edin saksı mutlaka çatlamıştır   If love was a flower, respect would be the flowerpot that protects it.If the flover has started to wilt, be careful, the flowerpot has absolutely cracked.

Thread: Parka/parkta

551.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Feb 2014 Sat 05:06 am   Quoting Treize From Beginner class 1, section 3, homework 4.   Why is the correct answer ´parkta´ and not ´parka´?   He wants to do to the park, why add ´t´?      Correct answer is parka. Maybe you saw it wrong. 3. Ali park... gidiyor. A. parkta B. parktan C. parke D. parka (Correct) Edited (2/15/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: Gülay - Sari Gelin

552.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Feb 2014 Fri 06:44 pm   Quoting denizli (sorry this website doesn´t work that well)   Which album of Gülay´s is Sari Gelin from? Is it her song or a traditional song? Here is the album. It is a folk song.   2000-Gülay - Damlalar Gülay - Askaros Deresi Gülay - Asker Yolu Beklerim Gülay - Babuba Gülay - Daha Senden Gayrı Gülay - Ellerini Çekip Benden Gülay - Everek Dağı Gülay - Göç Gülay - Mendilimin Yeşili Gülay - Romen Kızı Gülay - Sarı Gelin Gülay - Sen Gelmez Oldun Gülay - Sunayıda Deli Gönül Gülay - Sürüler İçinde Gülay - Zalım Poyraz

Thread: Linking object with the infinitive

553.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Feb 2014 Fri 06:38 pm   Quoting sufler Merhaba. While reading an article on wikipedia about Turkish type of a kettle, I found a headline saying "Çayın hazırlanması". I know it means "Preparing of tea" but literally "Tea´s being-prepared activity". But what is the difference if I put "çay" as the direct object of the infinitive "hazırlamak", like çay ( or çayı ) hazırlama - "preparing a (the) tea".   Does it make a big semantic difference? çayın hazırlanması is passive. çayı hazırlama is active. I dont think there is a big semantic difference.   sufler liked this message

Thread: Can´t stop listening: Ağladıkça

554.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Feb 2014 Fri 04:25 am This one is not the famous song of Ahmet Kaya. This is another song sang by Cem Adrian and Murat Yılmazyıldırım. And it is simply perfect. Wonderful lyrics. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9Jh9FsVCm8     AĞLADIKÇA As Long As You Cry    Sessizsin yağmur gibi  You are silent like rain. Üşüyorsun bir dağ gibi  You are chilling like a mountain Korkuyorsun kırılmaktan  You are afraid of getting broken Rüzgardan yaprak gibi  By wind like a leaf. Düşüyorsun, düşüyorsun  You are falling, you are falling Kuşatılmış şehir gibi  Like a besieged city. Susuyorsun, Susuyorsun  You are quiet, you are quiet İçinden,  Inside you Bir çocuk ağladıkça As long as a child cries  Taşar nehirler, ağladıkça  Rivers overflow, as long as he cries Yarılır gökyüzü, ağladıkça  Sky is split in two, as long as he cries Dirilir topraktan aşk  Love revives from earth Sesin büyür deler geçer yırtar geceyi  Your voice gets louder, it pierces and tears the night Kalbim çarpar kırar döker camdan geceyi  My heart beats and it breaks the glass-made night Göz yaşların düşer akıtır siyah geceyi  Your tears fall and they drain the black night Sen ağladıkça, ben ağladıkça  As long as you cry, as long as I cry Evler tutuşur, alev alev yakar geceyi Houses catch fire, they burn the night furiously.  Eller açılır, dua dua böler geceyi  The hands get open, they split the night with prayers. Yağmur, yağmur yıkar geceyi  Rain, rain destroys the night Sen ağladıkça, ben ağladıkça  As long as you cry, as long as I cry. Yüzün cennete döner sen ağladıkça  Your face turns into heaven, as long as you cry Yeşerir topraklar gösterir ellerini sana aşk, aşk. Earth gets green, love, love shows its hands to you.  Sessizsin, yağmur gibi  You are silent like rain Korkuyorsun kırılmaktan You are afraid of getting broken  Düşüyorsun, düşüyorsun  You are falling, you are falling İçinden,  Inside you Bir çocuk ağladıkça As long as a child cries  Taşar nehirler, ağladıkça  Rivers overflow, as long as he cries Yarılır gökyüzü, ağladıkça  Sky is split in two, as long as he cries Dirilir topraktan aşk  Love revives from earth Sesin büyür deler geçer yırtar geceyi  Your voice gets louder, it pierces and tears the night Kalbim çarpar kırar döker camdan geceyi  My heart beats and it breaks the glass-made night Göz yaşların düşer akıtır siyah geceyi  Your tears fall and they drain the black night Sen ağladıkça, ben ağladıkça  As long as you cry, as long as I cry Evler tutuşur, alev alev yakar geceyi Houses catch fire, they burn the night furiously.  Eller açılır, dua dua böler geceyi  The hands get open, they split the night with prayers. Yağmur, yağmur yıkar geceyi  Rain, rain destroys the night Sen ağladıkça, ben ağladıkça    As long as you cry, as long as I cry. Edited (2/14/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/14/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/14/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/14/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/14/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/14/2014) by gokuyum slavica, foka and elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: please please please help eng to turk :(

555.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Feb 2014 Fri 03:41 am   Quoting lauraacorah Dear ......., Sevgili......,  I want you to know that I care for you deeply. You became  very important to me. Seni çok önemsediğimi bilmeni isterim. Benim için çok önemli oldun. I can say you have found a place in my heart. The argument we had has really upset me. I wish it never happened. I have tried so hard to resolve it but it seems you dont want us to talk. You are very depressed at the moment and its hard to see you like that. Kalbimde bir yerin olduğunu söyleyebilirim. Yaşadığımız tartışma beni gerçekten üzdü. Keşke hiç yaşanmasaydı. Onu bir çözüme kavuşturmak için çok uğraştım ama konuşmamızı istemiyor görünüyorsun. Şu an çok depresifsin ve seni böyle görmek gerçekten çok zor. Bulent I only want to help you. Please consider the jobs I have found for you. You could earn good money and perhaps you would be much happier.Please do not give up on yourself. I really dont want you to be angry with me, I cant change what happened. I was upset please understand that people dont act rationally when they are upset. Bülent ben sadece sana yardım etmek istiyorum. Senin için bulduğum işleri lütfen göz önüne al. Çok para kazanabilir ve belki daha mutlu olabilirsin. Lütfen kendini bırakma. Bana kzıgın olmanı gerçekten hiç istemiyorum. Geçmişi değiştiremem. Üzgündüm. Lütfen anla. İnsanlar üzgünken mantıklı davranmazlar. I will not contact you again because I feel like you dont want me to, but please know that you are in my mind and I am thinking of you. If you need me you know I will be there for you. I really wish things were different. It was lovely knowing you, take care of yourself and just remember your mum is waiting to see you, so take one of those jobs and earn the money so that you can go back home and make your mum happy. Dont do it for yourself do it for her. Seninle tekrar iletişime geçmeyeceğim çünki bunu istemediğini hissediyorum ama aklımda olduğunu ve seni düşündüğümü bilmeni istiyorum. Eğer bana ihtiyacın olursa yanında olacağımı biliyorsun. Keşke herşey farklı olsaydı. Seni tanımak çok hoştu. Kendine iyi bak ve annenin seni görmek için beklediğini hatırla. Bir iş seç, para kazan böylece eve dönebilir ve anneni mutlu edebilirsin. Kendin için değil onun için yap. I will go now tears are filling my eyes, because I dont want to say goodbye to you but I know if I continue to contact you , you will hate me for it. I´m praying for you. Take care of yourself lan. Şimdi gidiyorum. Gözlerim yaşlarla doluyor çünkü sana elveda demek istemiyorum. Ama seninle iletişimde olmaya devam edersem benden nefret edeceğini biliyorum. Senin için dua ediyorum.Kendine iyi bak lan.

Thread: sorry/excuse me-ways of saying these

556.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Feb 2014 Thu 08:14 pm özür dilerim simply means I apologize. Edited (2/13/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: sorry/excuse me-ways of saying these

557.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Feb 2014 Wed 11:09 pm   Quoting Johnk so uzgunum is i am sad and not i am sorry?? oh dear..so when i have said i am sorry , turkish people think i am sad!!!   Yeah it means both of that. If you say it to someone you have offended it means you are apologizing. Edited (2/12/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: ...yazılı çalımlı bir yazıyla.

558.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Feb 2014 Wed 03:30 pm Okay I will rearrange the sentence to ease your suffering   <<Bindiğimiz otobüsün adı Belediye. Üstünde de "Belediye" yazılı çalımlı bir yazıyla.    Bindiğimiz otobüsün adı Belediye. Üstünde de çalımlı bir yazıyla "Belediye" yazılı. The name of the bus we got on is Belediye. And on it, it is written "Belediye" with a fancy writing. elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: ...yazılı çalımlı bir yazıyla.

559.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Feb 2014 Wed 03:29 am   Quoting sufler Merhaba. In a set of ebooks with Turkish learning materials I found this short story I dediced to translate, and actually I´m struggling with almost every sentence of the first paragraph already. But I hope with your help I´ll get through it So, the first part is like: <<Bindiğimiz otobüsün adı Belediye. Üstünde de "Belediye" yazılı çalımlı bir yazıyla. Millet, "Belediye´ye bindik. Belediye´den indik." diye konuşuyor. Biz de Belediye´ye bindik diyelim en iyisi. (...)>>   So if I were to translate it, the first sentence is clear: "The name of the bus we got on was Belediye". But further it gets tougher.. "With a çalımlı? writing on it that said Belediye?".. Why does the sentence end with "with"? What the "with" refers to? And what is "çalımlı"? 1)The busses were called "belediye(municipality)" because they belonged to municipilaties. At least until recently. Now I guess transportation firms have them. They transport people in cities. We used to shortly call them belediye instead of belediye otobüsü. 2) çalımlı means fancy. 3) Writer is using an artistic style in his text. He changes the normal order of the words. That way he is creating a literary text.   And moving forward: Folks (nation) were talking like "We got on Belediye. We got off Belediye". Let´s also say "we got on Belediye".. the best? Why is there "(its) the best" phrase at end? The best of what do they mean? 4)Best is at the end because of the reason I explained in the third item. 5)Then it is best to say that we get on belediye. Thanks in advance!       Edited (2/12/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/12/2014) by gokuyum sufler liked this message

Thread: Turkish School Books...

560.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Feb 2014 Wed 03:15 am I think these books can be really useful for learners. elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: izlemek, seyretmek, görmek, bakmak?

561.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Feb 2014 Tue 07:52 pm   Quoting nobap Hello! What are the differences, if any, between these verbs: izlemek,seyretmek, görmek, bakmak? İzlemek and seyretmek mean to watch. İzlemek is a Turkish verb, seyretmek is a combination of Arabic(seyr) and Turkish(etmek) words. Görmek means to see, bakmak means to look at.   Are any of them interchangeable? Thank you.     tomac and tunci liked this message

Thread: t2 e

562.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Feb 2014 Tue 07:44 pm   Quoting nessah Belki bir gün, ne bileyim işte herhangi bir sokakta. Belki de sen de beni ararsın, belki de geceleri yatağından kalkarsın benim için; aklına gelmişimdir falan. Olur ya işte bir sigara yakarsın geceye ve bana doğru. Belki bir gün rastlaşırız herhangi bir yerde. Göz göze geliriz sokak ortasında, kalabalığın içinde. Kalabalıklar dağılır o an, o an her şey kaybolur benim gözümde. Belki bir gün kim bilir. Sen de seversin beni..     Maybe one day, I dont know, in any street. Maybe you will look for me too, maybe you will get up from bed for me, maybe I will come to your mind. Maybe you will light a cigarette towards night and me. Maybe one day we will come across in somewhere. Our eyes will meet in the middle of a sreet, in the crowd.The crrowd will disband in that moment, in that moment everything will disappear in my eyes. Maybe one day, who knows? You will love me too.   This is how it should end::   Maybe one day, when I am looking for you, in a street, a flowerpot will fall onto my head and maybe one day world will get rid of me Edited (2/11/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: Ah Nijad! - Recaizade Mahmud Ekrem

563.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Feb 2014 Mon 03:05 am   Quoting Sapphirine Bu ne demek söyleyebilir ? Ben türkçe öğreniyorum. Perşembe bir sınıv var. Ama burada ne demek söyleyebilir bilmiyorum. Çok teşekkür ederim . Hasret beni cayır cayır yakarken Bedenimde buzdan bir el yürüyor. Hayaline çılgın çılgın bakarken Kapanası gözümü kan bürüyor. When longing burns me furiously A hand made of ice walks on my body When I crazily look at your imagination Blood  covers up my wished to be closed eyes. [hope makes sense ] Dağda kırda rasgetirsem bir dere Gözyaşlarım akıtarak çağlarım. Yollardaki ufak ufak izlere Senin sanıp bakar bakar ağlarım. On mountains and fields when I come across with a stream I gurgle sheding my tears I cry  looking  repeatedly  and thinking That the small traces on the roads belongs to you Güneş güler, kuşlar uçar havada, Uyanırlar nazlı nazlı çiçekler.. Yalnız mısın o karanlık yuvada? Yok mu seni bir kayırır, bir bekler? Sun laughs and birds fly on the air Flowers wake up coyly Are you alone in that dark nest? Isnt there anybody who looks after and watch you? Can isterken hasret odiyle yansın, Varlık beni alil alil sürüyor. Bu kaygıya yürek nasıl dayansın? Bedenciğin topraklarda çürüyor! Let the soul burn with the fire of longing Existence drags me sickly How should a heart bear this worry? Your precious body rots underground. Bu ayrılık bana yaman geldi pek, Ruhum hasta, kırık kolum kanadım. Ya gel bana, ya oraya beni çek, Gözüm nuru oğulcuğum, Nijad´ım! This seperation is so difficult for me. My soul is sick, my wings are broken Eighter you come here or drag me there O my Nijad, my son, my light of eyes.   Recaizade Mahmud Ekrem This poem is way advanced for a learner. It must be difficult to understand and translate it for a foreigner. I would not ask about this poem in the exam if I was your teacher I like the poem. It is sad and touching.   Edited (2/10/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: Kota getirilmek

564.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Feb 2014 Sun 09:04 pm   Quoting sufler Merhaba. As the topic says -  "Kota getirilmek" or "kota getirmek";   is there such a phrase in Turkish at all? What does it mean?   Kota means quota or limit. "Kota getirmek" means "to set a quota"

Thread: English to Turkish, please

565.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Feb 2014 Sun 08:59 pm   Quoting ben.onur1 How to translete:   ´Who visited you 2 days ago?´ it will be: ´seni kim 2 gün önce ziyaret etti?´ I´m learning Turkish few months, but it´s difficult language   Thank you for help!   You can translate this sentence differently according to which word you want to emphasize. I am assuming you are emphasizing "kim". So I will put it near the verb. Verb is ziyaret etmek(to visit):   Seni iki gün önce kim ziyaret etti?   If you want to emphasize "iki gün önce" then you should  put it near verb:   Kim seni iki gün önce ziyaret etti?   Here is the third scenario. If you want to emphasize "seni" then put it near verb:   Kim iki gün önce seni ziyaret etti?   Edited (2/9/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/9/2014) by gokuyum Khaur liked this message

Thread: Newbie needing translation urgently!

566.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Feb 2014 Sun 08:49 pm   Quoting sam mohammad       Thank you. I am trying to be useful Edited (2/9/2014) by gokuyum elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: Aşk bir istirap ve eziyet

567.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Feb 2014 Sat 08:06 pm   Quoting kashf-ul-eman ş Yağmuru sevdiğini söylüyorsun Ama yağmur yağınca şemsiyeni açıyorsun. Güneşi sevdiğini söylüyorsun Ama güneş parlayınca gölge bir yer buluyorsun. Rüzgarı sevdiğini söylüyorsun Ama rüzgar esince pencerelerini kapatıyorsun. Bu yüzden beni sevdiğini söylemenden korkuyorum. Sen ne biçim insansın? [I wrote this line. It is complete now ] Sen şöyler sen yağmur sevirsin , Ama sen aç senin şemsiyenin o yuzden bu yağmur yagıyor. Sen şöyler sen sevirsin güneşi,o yuzden Ama sen bulur bir gölge, o yuzden güneş parlar. Sen şöyler sen sevirsin havayı, Ama sen kapttır senin pencerelerin o yuzden hava hamler. Bu için ben korkum, sen şöyler sen benide seviyorsun....   a little dedication .. regards kashf-ul-eman When doesnt mean "o yüzden". O yüzden means "because of that"   Edited (2/8/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/8/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: t-e

568.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Feb 2014 Sat 08:00 pm   Quoting idontknow12 youre great, thank you gokuyum!!! I have something else, gelip gecer. does this mean it comes and goes? Yes. It means everything passes away. So there is no need to be hopeless. and ecel, does this mean death? Ecel means end of life. We can translate it as death.     idontknow12 liked this message

Thread: What does this mean? Please

569.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Feb 2014 Sat 07:55 pm   Quoting Minaa Ben okula ugrarim.   I will visit the school.

Thread: t-e

570.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Feb 2014 Sat 07:53 pm   Quoting idontknow12 halllooo can anone help with this please?? Babalıktan söz ediyorsun ama kızının gözünde ki sevdanın gerçekliğini görmeyecek kadar körsün.  You are talking about fathersip but you are blind to see the reality of your daugher´s love in her eyes. oh oh and this too pleaaase! Biz seninle gönül nikahı kıydık.Toprağın altına bile girsem seninim, sende benim. Ecel bile ayıramaz bizi.  We are married in our hearts. I would be yours even if I was burried and you would be mine. Even death cant seperate us.     Edited (2/8/2014) by gokuyum idontknow12 liked this message

Thread: mutlaka gelmek

571.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Feb 2014 Fri 11:58 pm   Quoting elenagabriela if you like/ love Türkiye so much undoubtedly you have to come...   or absolutely elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: Short essay

572.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Feb 2014 Fri 11:54 pm   Quoting elenagabriela kurtuldun yani.. tekrar geçmiş olsun   Teşekkür ederim elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: Short essay

573.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Feb 2014 Fri 11:47 pm Here is the second part of my essay.   İnternetten bir hafta sonraya yani bugüne randevu aldım. Bir hafta boyunca antibiyotikleri kullandığım için dişimdeki iltihap kurudu ve dişimin ağrısı geçti. Artık dişimi çektirebilecektim. Saat 11´de randevum vardı. Tam vaktinde doktor beni içeri aldı. Ben dişimi çekmesini beklerken o beni başka bir doktora sevk etti. O diş çekmiyormuş. O uzman doktor olduğu için kanal tedavisi gibi daha zor işlerle ilgileniyormuş. Bunu bilseydim bir hafta beklemez, üç-dört gün önce başka bir doktordan kendim randevu alabilirdim. Ama o bir hafta sonra beni görmeye gel demişti ve tek yaptığı beni başka bir doktora sevk etmek oldu. Diğer doktorun beni çağırması için sıramı bekliyordum. Ama doktor odasından çıktı ve saat 1´e kadar dönmedi. Tam 2 saat bekledim. Daha sonra geri geldi ve hastaları çağırmaya başladı. Duvardaki monitörde hastaların isimleri görünüyordu ama benim ismim yoktu. Çok şaşırdım. Sabırsızlıkla doktorun odasına girdim ve beni ona sevk ettiklerini, iki saattir beklediğimi ama adımın görünmediğini söyledim. O da bir problem olabileceğini, beni sevk eden doktorla tekrar görüşmemi söyledi. Beni sevk eden doktorun yanına gittim. Beni görünce dişini çektirdin mi diye sordu. Ben de sevk işleminde bir sorun olduğunu monitörde ismimin görünmediğini söyledim. Yardımcısına durumu sordu. Yardımcısı beni tekrar sevk edeceğini söyedi. Bu duruma çok sinirlendim ama birşey demedim. Yardımcısı beni tekrar sevk etti. Yukarı kata çıktım. Monitördeki isimler arasında hala ismim yoktu. Acaba yine mi bir sorun vardı? Ama bu mümkün olamazdı. Ben de beklemeye başladım. 30 dakika geçmişti ve ismim hala görünmüyordu. Hastaneyi her an terkedebilirdim. İyice sinirlenmiştim. İnsanlar neden işlerini doğru düzgün yapmıyorlar diye düşünürken ismim ekranda belirdi. Önümde beş kişi vardı. Yine de sevindim. Yarım saat daha bekledikten sonra sıra bana geldi. Doktor dişimi bir dakika içinde çekti. Ama ben bu bir dakika için tam 3 saat beklemiştim. Yine de dişimi çektirdiğim için mutluydum. Edited (2/7/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/8/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/8/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: Turkish to English please

574.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Feb 2014 Fri 11:24 pm Biz onu şerbetler içeriz Actually I dont know how this sentence can be translated in English literally. "I guess we will make it sherbet and drink it " is the closest.

Thread: E - T PLEASE !!!

575.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Feb 2014 Fri 11:19 pm   Quoting Minaa Thank you so much You and Ahmet helped me so much !!!! Thank you   You are welcome.

Thread: Turkish to English please

576.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Feb 2014 Fri 11:09 pm   Quoting ClaudiaA Thank You so much !!!!! Can You please help me with this too?  Ne derdini bilen var, ne soran var.  Anlayamazlar seni.  Anlamayacaklar da. C: Çıkarım. D: Bıraksaydım. C: Vallahi ben çıkarım. Thank You once again !!   Neighter there is someone who knows your trouble nor there is someone who asks about it. They cant understand you. And they will not understand.   C: I will leave D: I could give you a lift C: No, no need I will leave myself. Edited (2/7/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: E - T PLEASE !!!

577.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Feb 2014 Fri 11:02 pm   Quoting Minaa Senin hayatında konuşan çok da dinleyen yok. Zeynep´in kardeşin olduğunu öğrenmişsin, yapabileceğini yapmışsın, gitmişsin, söylemişsin. senden korkan senin gibi olsun   In your life there are a lot of people who talk but there is noone who listens. You have learnt that Zeynep is your sister, you did what you could do, you went and told it. Let the one who is afraid of you become like you. ( This is a Turkish saying) ahmet_a1b2 liked this message

Thread: "Turnalar" -- Yavuz Bingöl

578.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Feb 2014 Fri 10:57 pm   Quoting trip Well, after looking at your translation, I can see that I got things wrong, but I didn´t do as badly as I had feared. You can see by my translation of "aman" that I am a prisoner of my dictionary. And explain this to me: Last night I looked at "yavrusun" and thought it meant "your young one," but after I posted, I got to thinking that "sun" wouldn´t be a possessive. That maybe it meant "you are a young one." But I see you translated it as "she lost her baby." What is "yavrusun"? I am confused. Back to "aman." Here is what the Turkish Class dictionary says: aman 1. Oof!/God!/Lord!/Lord help us! (indicating disgust or anger).  2. Please!/For goodness sake!  3. My! (indicating great approbation).  4. mercy.  You can see that I was somewhat at sea deciding what to use. So, the way you use it is perhaps (1) or (2)? Or even a little different. And now for "boşver": boşver never mind, take it easy, don`t worry about it, that`s ok Is this what you mean when you use it? And all this brings me back to music. Do you know the Sıla song "Boşver"? I think she means "take it easy" in her song. It does make a very good reggae song, maaan. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25P0qRshEBo   Actually it is "yavrusunu". But this folk song is written (actually it is sang. I think they were not writing, they were just singing them) with syllable meter like all the other folk songs. Each line has 13 syllabels in this song. If the singer of the song sang it saying "yavrusunu" that line would be 14 syllables. That is why he shortened the word. It is a very common thing to see this kind of shortenings in folk songs because of the syllable meter. Aman is the expression of sadness in this song. But in my sentence it is expression of a frustration or boredom. It is a vocal expression taking different meanings according to how you use it. But you can use it as a word too.   Bana hiç aman vermedi. He showed me no mercy. Edited (2/7/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/8/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/8/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/8/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: Newbie needing translation urgently!

579.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Feb 2014 Fri 10:42 pm Okay here is the translation from the soft-hearted love doctor of the forum I wish you best: Quoting Geradeti12 Hello, I´ve browsed the forums for a while and gained some useful stuff but now I´m in need of help urgently! This is a pretty personal matter so I hope it´s ok on the forum!   To give the backstory, Me and my OH had an argument and split a few months ago, we love each other dearly so got back together less than two weeks later but because of the nature of the split we kept it on the quiet for a few months to ensure it was what we wanted. Now, I´m due to go back over his house tonight and I would love to have a letter to write to his mother but my turkish is terrible! I´ve been trying to figure out the sentences but it´s not working. If anyone could help I would be thankful for eternity, also anyone who has any experience of the Turkish culture, is this the done thing? Would you write a letter to your OH´s Mother to apologise?   This is what I want to say:   Hello,   I hope you don´t mind me writing you this letter. It´s been a while since we spoke and things did not end well. I appreciate any negative feelings you may have towards me so I wanted to try and write a letter of apology to you for your forgiveness.  Umarım bu mektubu yazdığım için beni hoş görürsünüz. Sizinle uzun zamandır konuşamadık ve işler pek de iyi gitmedi. Bana karşı olumsuz hislerinizi anlıyorum. Bu yüzden sizden af dilemek için bu mektubu yazmak istedim.   I love your son dearly and always have, no matter the argument, we always manage to stick together and although times have been hard sometimes I always smile when his name flashes up on my phone or he turns up at my door. No matter what has happened between us I know that I will look after him and cherish him forever, he is a great person and gives me lots of love and laughter everyday Oğlunuzu çok seviyorum ve her zaman da sevdim. Ne konuda tartışırsak tartışalım, her zaman birbirimize tutunmayı başardık. Her ne kadar bazen çok sıkıntılı zamanlar yaşadıysak da onun adı telefonumda belirdiğinde ya da o, kapımı çaldığında hep sevinçle gülümsedim. Aramızda geçmişte her ne yaşındıysa da biliyorum ki her zaman onu gözeteceğim ve ona değer vereceğim. O harika bir insan ve bana her gün pek çok sevgi ve gülücük veriyor.   As for me and you, you always have been like a second mother to me and I have missed having that relationship with you so I hope that we can work together again and hopefully one day you can teach me some of your brilliant cooking skills! Siz benim içn her zaman ikinci bir anne oldunuz ve aramızdaki bu ilişkiyi çok özledim. Umarım tekrar birlikte çalışabiliriz ve siz de bana harika aşçılık yeteneklerinizi öğretebilirsiniz.   I do apologise for everything that has happened but as I have said, ______ means so much to me and I hope we can find forgiveness. Olan herşey için özür diliyorum ve dediğm gibi _______ benim için çok şey ifade ediyor ve umarım beni affedersiniz.   Love to you all, Hepinize sevgiler         Edited (2/7/2014) by gokuyum elenagabriela and ben.onur1 liked this message

Thread: Turkish to English please

580.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Feb 2014 Thu 11:51 pm   Quoting ClaudiaA Can someone translate this to English, please? Thanks in advance ! Sanki sen çok istiyordun...sanki en çok hayalini kurduğun şeydi Ela´dan ayrı kalmak. And this:  Ölüm gelecekse, senden gelsin be güzelim. Biz onu şerbetler içeriz   1) As if you had wanted a lot. As if getting seperated from Ela had been the thing you had dreamed most. (It means you didnt want any of them)   2) If death will come, let it come from you my beautiful. We will sugar coat it and drink it. Edited (2/7/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/7/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: translation please

581.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Feb 2014 Thu 11:46 pm   Quoting britturk You boys are both handsome just like your uncle Bulent   Siz iki delikanlı da aynı amcanız/dayınız Bülent gibi yakışıklısınız.

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582.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Feb 2014 Thu 01:53 pm There is always a solution

Thread: "Turnalar" -- Yavuz Bingöl

583.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Feb 2014 Thu 01:09 pm Here is my translation: http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_54890_3 And here is my explanation about what aman means. It is a quote from one of my previous posts: http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_58437 As you write "aman" means mercy. But most of the time we dont use it like a word but we use it as a vocal expression like the other vocal expressions such as ah, oh, woe. And it means many things according to where you use it. I think aman aman is an expression of sadness or desperation there. Maybe saying mercy mercy is the way of it. I am not very sure about it. I use it in another way in my life:   Ex: Amaaaan. Boşver. Here I dont know how to translate it. But it is an expression of frustration or boredom. It is not something about mercy. Edited (2/6/2014) by gokuyum trip liked this message

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584.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Feb 2014 Thu 02:36 am   Quoting denizli I hope these are OK?   Do your children study here? Burada çocuklarınız çalışıyorlar mı? Do your children study at Sandhills? Sandhills´de çocuklarınız çalışıyorlar mı?   They are okay. But I want to point out a comon mistake. lar/ler is the personal suffix in "çalışıyorlar" and it means "they". In Turkish all personal suffixes are put at the end of the question word. But when it comes to this ler/lar suffix, I dont know why but people generally put it before the question word.And it is wrong. Let me give you an example.   Çalışıyor musun? Are you working? As you can see personal suffix "-sun" comes after question word "mu"? It would be so weird to say "Çalışırsın mı?" Çalışıyor muyum? Am I working? Here personal suffix "-um" is put after the question word "mu" too. ANd it is also weird to say "çalışıyorum mu?"   So instead of saying "çalışıyorlar mı?" , we should prefer saying "çalışıyor mular?" Edited (2/6/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/6/2014) by gokuyum denizli and elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: Why did şehir become city in Turkish?

585.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Feb 2014 Thu 02:20 am   Quoting sufler     Oh yeah, that´s exactly what I thought. That´s why I was surprised these two meanings were listed in Turkish etymological dictionary if they are not used in Turkish. 1) I havent seen şehir used in the meaning of famous. But maybe it was used in Ottoman language.That is why it is in the dictionary. 2)You can still witness the use of "şehir" in the meaning of "month". It is very rare. Only example I know is this: In Ramadans you can see a sentence on the top of mosques saying "Hoşgeldin Ya Şehr-i Ramazan(Welcome o month of Ramadan)".    Edited (2/6/2014) by gokuyum sufler and Henry liked this message

Thread: HELP please !

586.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Feb 2014 Thu 02:10 am   Quoting Henry     My attempt as a learner, with a breakdown to help you Ben = I gönül = heart (spiritual, emotional rather than physical) gönül + üm = gönlüm = my heart gönlüme = to my heart söz geçirmek = to make (someone) do what one says. söz geçirememek = to not be able to make (someone) do what one says. gönlüme söz geçirememek = to not be able to make my heart do what one says. ´ten sonra = after Ben gönlüme söz geçiremedikten sonra After I wasn´t able to make my heart do what one says ....... This seems to me like only half a sentence Wait for a native speaker to confirm or correct   That one is you in this sentence. So translation must be like this: After I wasnt able to make my heart do what I say... And I am almost sure that the sentence  continues with "what is the use of" Edited (2/6/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/6/2014) by gokuyum Henry liked this message

Thread: Turkish to English, please. I would be very grateful :)

587.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Feb 2014 Wed 10:06 pm   Quoting Marina90 Thank You so much !!! Fits the context perfectly !   Okay. No problem then

Thread: Turkish to English, please. I would be very grateful :)

588.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Feb 2014 Wed 09:49 pm   Quoting Marina90 Can someone please translate this to English ? Milonga´ya gidenlerden Thank you so much !!!! Best regards, Marina    It would be better if you gave the whole sentence. Here is the tranlation: From the ones who went to Milonga......

Thread: Why did şehir become city in Turkish?

589.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Feb 2014 Wed 08:41 pm   Quoting sufler Well, I didn´t know that! And is the word in the other meanings (2. and 3. in the link you gave) also used in Turkish? Most of Turkish-English dictionaries give only city-related translations. 1. Şehir means city in Turkish. It doesnt mean country or state any more. 2. We dont use şehir this way. We say meşhur. They have the same root. 3. Şehir means appearing, appearing of the new moon in Arabic. I guess that is why month means şehir in Arabic. We dont use Arabic word "şehir". We have a Turkish word for that as you know. It is "ay". It is the Turkish word for moon and month. Edited (2/5/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/5/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/5/2014) by gokuyum sufler liked this message

Thread: Why did şehir become city in Turkish?

590.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Feb 2014 Wed 08:34 pm   Quoting cemmerven Probably it´s historical reasons, dated back to Ottoman era, where even the turks didn´t speak turkish. Influenced heavily with other neighbouring regions tongues probably "şehir" is the only wide-known and available word for it.     Turks always spoke Turkish cemmervan. Maybe some elite minority was talking Ottoman language, Farsi or Arabic among themselves. But in daily life they were speaking Turkish too.

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591.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Feb 2014 Tue 11:38 pm I am sure they will. They always answered me.And dont forget the time difference.

Thread: Why did şehir become city in Turkish?

592.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Feb 2014 Tue 11:27 pm   Quoting sufler Merhaba. I´ve been thinking on it for a long time. Perhaps someone knows an etymological explanation for this. Why the word "şehir" was adapted into Turkish as "a city" considering it probably comes from Arabic شهر [shahr] which means "a month" (as far as I know Arabic)?   Because it is a Farsi word. Şahr means city or land in Farsi language. Arabic one is a different word. http://www.nisanyansozluk.com/?k=%C5%9Fehir&x=-1220&y=-238 Edited (2/4/2014) by gokuyum sufler liked this message

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593.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Feb 2014 Tue 02:59 pm   Quoting Test1111 i think the reason why i can´t login is because i am not using password with english letters and this site accept only english cause everything worked untill i changed password.But unfortunately the only way to change password is to be logged in so it´s impossible to me.Maybe if admins send me an email with new password?   Send elisabeth or catwoman a pm about your problem. They are moderators. They can help you.   http://www.turkishclass.com/user_catwoman http://www.turkishclass.com/user_Elisabeth elenagabriela and ahmet_a1b2 liked this message

Thread: "Turnalar" -- Yavuz Bingöl

594.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Feb 2014 Tue 01:02 pm   Quoting trip Çok teşekkür ederim, gokuyum! Here is the song that made me start listening to Yavuz Bingöl. I think you know this song. "Urfa Türküsü" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU8DvYbQXjs   Yeah it is one of my favourite folk songs. I guess I translated this song in the past. I am happy that you love it.   trip liked this message

Thread: "Turnalar" -- Yavuz Bingöl

595.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Feb 2014 Tue 12:51 pm This translation looks perfect. Congratulations.This is a nice song but some sentences sounds so weird to my ears. Not your sentences I mean the original ones.

Thread: Bergen/Arabesque

596.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Feb 2014 Tue 01:26 am   Quoting denizli A traditional song, I wondered but didn´t know, thanks. For the counting, I meant the rhythm rather than the sylables. I think it is in 5´s which would be very unusual in modern music.   Any idea by Traditional how old this would be? Or how does one find out if a song is traditional? For a Turk it is very easy to recognise a folk song. They are always written with syllabic meter. They are purer and simpler than arabesue music. Most of the time they are played with saz.

Thread: uzaklara kurban

597.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Feb 2014 Tue 01:08 am It is not very meaningful. There is a reference to sacrafice eid. Tourism increases in this eid. People go to other cities for a holiday. Kurban olmak means something different in this sentence:.    kurban olayım! colloq.  She´s/It´s so wonderful I feel like dying for her/it.    So toursim is fond of distances Edited (2/4/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/4/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/4/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/4/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/4/2014) by gokuyum sufler liked this message

Thread: english to turkish big ask

598.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Feb 2014 Mon 09:45 pm Looking at men´s phones can be dangerous. If I were you I wouldnt make it a big deal. Edited (2/3/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: emergency!

599.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Feb 2014 Mon 03:16 pm   Quoting saragolub Kesinlesince bana soyle yazin tatile falan gidicezya ona gore ayarliyim tamam mi ?  Can someone translate?   When it becomes certain, tell me. You know we will go to holiday in summer. I will make the adjustments according to it. Okay? Edited (2/3/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: a turkish poem to english pls

600.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Feb 2014 Mon 02:05 am I want 1 million euro for this translation. I guess it caused a tumor appear on my brain. elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: a turkish poem to english pls

601.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Feb 2014 Mon 01:56 am The end. Dünyadaki en güzel şey seni tanımak Dünyadaki en mutlu şey seninle olmak The most beautiful thing in the world is to know you, the happiest thing in the world is to be with you.

Thread: a turkish poem to english pls

602.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Feb 2014 Mon 01:52 am sen bir kuş cıvıltısısın Sen bir keman sesisin Su gibi duru ve serin Kar gibi temiz ve narinsin You are chirping of a bird, voice of a violin, you are clear like water, cool and fragile like snow Edited (2/3/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: a turkish poem to english pls

603.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Feb 2014 Mon 01:45 am A deep breath... Ya da henüz anne karnında yumulmuş bir bebeğin Duyduğu bir melodiyi göz kapaklarıyla mırıldanması gibi Or like a baby´s (who is bent double in her mother´s belly) muttering a melody (by his eyelids) which he has heard Edited (2/3/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: a turkish poem to english pls

604.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Feb 2014 Mon 01:23 am Where was my gun? Su içmek isteyen bir kuğunun boynunu geriye doğru kıvırırken Tüylerinde dalgalanan ışığın gökkuşağı oluşturması gibi Like a light´s forming a rainbow by waving on the feathers of a swan (which wants to drink water) when it twists its neck back Edited (2/3/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/3/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: a turkish poem to english pls

605.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Feb 2014 Mon 01:11 am Seni hiç duyulmamış bir deyimle tasvir etmek isterdim I would like to describe you with a never heard expression. Edited (2/3/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: Can someone translate pls? :)

606.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Feb 2014 Mon 01:08 am   Quoting * Lamda*     Sağol dostum Always

Thread: a turkish poem to english pls

607.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Feb 2014 Mon 01:06 am Here comes another... Ya da ay ışığı göz bebeğinde billurlaşıp yansıdığında Bir kelebeğin ona konmaya çalışması gibi Or like a butterfly´s try to settle on moon shine when it crystallizes and is reflected in eye pupils. Edited (2/3/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/3/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: Can someone translate pls? :)

608.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Feb 2014 Mon 01:00 am Here is a translation: http://lyricstranslate.com/en/Anlasana-Anlasana.html * Lamda* liked this message

Thread: a turkish poem to english pls

609.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Feb 2014 Mon 12:57 am If I dont commit suicide after translating this one I will continue... Mesela ıhlamur ağacının yaprağından süzülen yağmur damlasına sinen kokuyu Bir uğur böceğinin içine çekmesi gibi   For example like a ladybug´s inhaling the smell that pervades a rain drop which flows from a leaf of a linden tree. Edited (2/3/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/3/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/3/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/3/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/3/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: a turkish poem to english pls

610.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Feb 2014 Mon 12:51 am BENDEKİ SEN Seni hiç bilinmeyen bir sözcükle anlatmak isterdim The You In Me: I would like to describe you with a never known word. Edited (2/3/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: a turkish poem to english pls

611.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Feb 2014 Mon 12:49 am Lets translate it slowly slowly then

Thread: translate please.

612.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Feb 2014 Mon 12:46 am   Quoting ayosh Kadınlar, erkeğin zeki, çevik ve ahlaksızını sever. Ahlaklı olacağım diye uğraşma, gecenin sonunda hesabı öder gidersin. Ben zaten düzgün adamdım ama bir süredir artık daha da düzgün olmaya karar verdim. Ama şimdi yemin ediyorum yalnızlıktan geberiyorum ya! thank you Women like smart, athletic and immoral men. Dont sweat for being moral, you will only go (home) after paying the bill at the end of the night. I was already a decent man but I have decided to be more decent. But I swear it I am dying from loneliness now.

Thread: Bergen/Arabesque

613.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Feb 2014 Mon 12:34 am   Quoting denizli She looks quite different in that video (from the more recent videos). Does Cesaretin Var mı Aşka mean Do you have the courage for love? Yes, it exactly means that I listened to the other song, I think I need to listen to it again. I hope you like it     Here is one from Gülay that sounds complicated to me. I try to count to it (i.e. 1-2-3-4 or 1-2-3) but I can´t figure it out: Bahçada Yeşil Çınar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccPnp4sLL4I    This is a folk song. It is written with syllabic meter. Each line has 7 syllables. There are also stops (/). Let me show you: bah-ça-da / ye-şil çı-nar = 3 +4 = 7 bo-yu bo/-yu-ma u-yar = 3+4 = 7 ben se-ni/ giz-li sev-dim = 3+4 = 7   bil-me-dim / a-lem du-yar = 3+4 = 7             Edited (2/3/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/3/2014) by gokuyum elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: my try

614.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Feb 2014 Mon 12:18 am Bu benim şarkının sözlerini çevirme denemem. Quoting sufler Merhaba. Often when you post a piece of translated text in a language forum, it is given a caption "my try" or "my humble try". What is the most natural way to express this statement in Turkish? For example how would you say "This is my try to translate the song´s lyrics

Thread: En büyük suçlar (...) fazla olanı elde etmek için işlenir

615.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2014 Sat 04:33 pm   Quoting sufler Merhaba. Please tell me whether or not my understanding of this quote is correct:     "The biggest crimes are committed in order to obtain the one which is too much (?) not the one which is necessary".   I would discard "too". Other than that your translation looks handsome sufler liked this message

Thread: Gülay - Sari Gelin

616.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2014 Sat 03:12 pm   Quoting Henry Thanks for explaining  Neyse, senin sayende yeni bir tabir öğrendim. (Thanks to you I have learned a new expression.) Amaaaaan boşver    Hahaha. Bende tabir çok

Thread: Gülay - Sari Gelin

617.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2014 Sat 01:23 pm   Quoting Henry Hi Gokuyum, I thought uzun also means long (as well as tall), So the translation could be Bu derenin uzunu The length of this brook. (The distance of this brook) Saçın uzun örmezler Your hair is long, they don´t plait it. Does aman aman mean have mercy?  Or does repeating it just emphasise mercy?     1) As you write, uzun is tall or long. It is an adjective. When you say "bu derenin uzunu" you use it as a noun. That is why it doesnt make sense in this sentence. But that doesnt mean it never makes sense as a noun.    Ex: Uzunları geldi. Their tall ones came.   Here it makes sense. Uzun doesnt mean length. There is an another word for it. It is "uzunluk".   "Bu derenin uzunu" means something like "the long/tall one of this brook". It doesnt make sense here. But in another sentence it can make sense.   Ex: Bu elbisenin uzununu istiyorum. I want the long(er) one of this cloth.    But when we look at "bu derenin uzunu" and "çoban gaytar guzunu" we cant see a grammatical or logical connection between them. There is only a rhyme.    2) Yeah long hair makes more sense. Thank you for the correction.   3) As you write "aman" means mercy. But most of the time we dont use it like a word but we use it as a vocal expression like the other vocal expressions such as ah, oh, woe. And it means many things according to where you use it. I think aman aman is an expression of sadness or desperation there. Maybe saying mercy mercy is the way of it. I am not very sure about it. I use it in another way in my life:   Ex: Amaaaan. Boşver. Here I dont know how to translate it. But it is an expression of frustration or boredom. It is not something about mercy.   Edited (2/1/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/1/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/1/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/1/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/1/2014) by gokuyum Henry liked this message

Thread: Gülay - Sari Gelin

618.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2014 Sat 11:32 am , Edited (2/1/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/1/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/1/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: Gülay - Sari Gelin

619.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2014 Sat 11:11 am It is a nice song by the way. I like it   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r53cs_thakU nessah liked this message

Thread: Gülay - Sari Gelin

620.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2014 Sat 10:13 am I will try but it will not be a literal translation. Because it wouldnt make sense. Some words and even some sentences are there only for ryhme. They dont make any sense. Quoting nessah Bu dağlar bizim dağlar çeşmeli sulu dağlar Burda bir garip yatar Burda bir garip yatar Gör ki işte,ulu dağlar… Burda bir garip yatar Gör ki işte,ulu dağlar… These mountains are our mountains. They have fountains and water. A stranger is burried here. A stranger is burried here. Here see, the great mountains A stranger is burried here. Here see, the great mountains   Saçın uzun örmezler gülü uzun dermezler Sarı gelin… Saçın uzun örmezler gülü uzun dermezler Sarı gelin… Your hair is long, they dont plait it They dont pick up a tall rose Blonde bride... Your hair is long, they dont plait it They dont pick up a tall rose Blonde bride...   Bu sevda,ne sevdadır? Seni bana vermezler leylim aman aman Leylim aman aman sarı gelin… What a love is this? They dont give you to me. My beloved aman aman My beloved aman aman blonde bride Bu sevda,ne sevdadır? Seni bene vermezler leylim aman aman Leylim aman aman sarı gelin… What a love is this? They dont give you to me. My beloved aman aman My beloved aman aman blonde bride   Bu Derenin Uzunu  Çoban Gaytar Guzunu Guzunu Bu Derenin Uzunu Çoban Gaytar Guzunu Guzunu The tall of this brook Shepherd! Herd your lambs, lambs The tall of this brook Shepherd! Herd your lambs, lambs Look below for explanation.     Getmelere deye gel oy nenen versin kizini leylim aman aman Leylim aman aman sarı gelin… Getmelere deye gel oy nenen versin kizini leylim aman aman Leylim aman aman sarı gelin…   Come saying I am going out with friends Oh let your grandmother give her granddaughter. My beloved aman aman My beloved aman aman blonde bride Come saying I am going out with friends Oh let your grandmother give her granddaughter. My beloved aman aman Oh let your grandmother give her granddaughter. My beloved aman aman blonde bride     Bu Derenin Uzunu  Çoban Gaytar Guzunu Guzunu Bu Derenin Uzunu  Çoban Gaytar Guzunu Guzunu   This verse is very problematic to translate. I am not sure what some words mean and I suspect they are there only for rhyme not to mean anything. Lets analyse the verse starting with first line.   First Line: Uzun means "tall" Bu derenin uzunu means "the tall of this brook". That doesnt make sense. I also learnt that "uzun" means "snake" in some dialects. Then "bu derenin uzunu" means "the snake of this brook" It doesnt make sense too. So "bu derenin uzunu" doesnt mean anything. It is there to be in rhyme with the second line   Second line:   I think  "gaytarmak" is "kaytarmak" and guzu is "kuzu". Çoban is shepard. This "kaytarmak" must be about something a shepard do to his animals. But I couldnt find such a meaning in dictionary. So I will make a guess. I think "kaytarmak" and "gütmek" has similar meanings here. Gütmek means "to herd" in English.So we can translate this line like this: Shephard! Herd your lambs, lambs.   Edited (2/1/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/1/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/1/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/1/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/1/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/1/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/1/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/1/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/1/2014) by gokuyum nessah and Henry liked this message

Thread: Help!

621.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2014 Sat 09:47 am By the way in Turkish you can entrust someone with another person.I dont know if it is possible in English. That is why I wrote "what/who". I am not completely sure but it is a big possibility that Nilay is the person who Mahir is entrusted with. Edited (2/1/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/1/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: Help!

622.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2014 Sat 09:39 am I think no translation program can take place of a human Thank you for the edit henry. I will put the edited version into my post. Edited (2/1/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/1/2014) by gokuyum Henry liked this message

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623.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2014 Sat 02:49 am   Quoting Henry   That would be a very safe bet Gokuyum  Nilay´ın kaçırıldığı öğrenen Mahir, kardeşinin emanetiyle, Feride´ye verdiği söz arasında sıkışıp kalırken, karakoldan gelen kötü haberle sarsılır.   I won so easily again

Thread: Help!

624.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2014 Sat 02:07 am This is from an announcement of a new episode of TV series, right? I can bet my head on it Lololooo and Henry liked this message

Thread: Help!

625.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jan 2014 Fri 11:55 pm   Quoting Lololooo "W’ın kaçırıldığı öğrenen X, kardeşinin emanetiyle, Y’ye verdiği söz arasında sıkışıp kalırken, karakoldan gelen kötü haberle sarsılır." As a learner, I am having a hard time breaking down this sentence as it is very long and complex... Could anyone help with this?  My try. I hope it makes sense Mahir, who learnt Nilay had been kidnapped, was shaken with the bad news which had come from the police station, when he was caught between what/who his brother/sister had entrusted him with, and his promise to Feride.   Edited (2/1/2014) by gokuyum [thanks henry for the corrections] Edited (2/1/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: Bergen/Arabesque

626.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jan 2014 Fri 11:38 pm   Quoting denizli How about Gülay? http://www.gulaysezer.com/diskografi.html Is she arabesque? Is she popular. Some of her rhythms are very complicated, I can´t even count to them. Is that from Traditional Turkish music or Arab music or something?   I know only onse song of Gülay and it is one of my all time favorities. It is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8sILUsdA0E   One of the other my all time favorites is Yusuf Taşkın´s Ağla Sevdam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc2k-XGqr18

Thread: Heeeelp

627.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jan 2014 Fri 11:48 am "Sözüm olsun" means "it is my word." Lololooo liked this message

Thread: Heeeelp

628.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jan 2014 Fri 11:43 am   Quoting Lololooo Thaaaank you, you are great as always! I really appreciate it.      You are welcome.

Thread: help

629.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jan 2014 Fri 11:37 am   Quoting Turkish2412 i found such sentence in internet: Bir daha o kadının yanına gidersen geri döndüğünde aileni bulamazsın.   i understood everything except last word. So why it´s not bulamayacaksın instead of bulamazsın in that case? Bulamazsın ( you can´t find ) Bulamayacaksın ( you won´t be able to find )   Because tenses are very flexible in Turkish. For example sometimes you can use aorist tense to talk about future and even about past. In that sentence using aorist tense he/she talks about future.   Here is an example.    1)If you are talking about a past event this sentence can be translated like this:   Onu gördükten sonra yanına gider ve selam der. After he had seen her, he went near her and said hi.   2)If you are talking about a future event this sentence can be translated like this:   Onu gördükten sonra yanına gider ve selam der. After he sees her, he will go near her and will say hi. Edited (1/31/2014) by gokuyum Edited (1/31/2014) by gokuyum Edited (1/31/2014) by gokuyum Turkish2412 and mehmet111 liked this message

Thread: Heeeelp

630.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jan 2014 Fri 11:29 am   Quoting Lololooo Hello again! "Ben olmasam da kılına zarar gelmez. Bir dediğin iki edilmez." Even if I am not with you, you will not be hurt. Everything you say will be done immediately. I need help with this. Does "kılına zarar gelmez" mean "Would not harm a hair on somebody´s head"? And I suppose that "Bir dediğin iki edilmez" is an idiom... But what the heck does it mean? To pamper? I am confused.  "Madem boynunu büktüm, ailenden ayrı düşürdüm seni" Since I have made you lower your head and have seperated you from your family. Where does the seni come from? I understand the first part, but the seni in the second part threw me off... ayrı düşürdüm is to think differently right? So, I have thought differently than your family... then the seni? Or maybe I am totally off... Thank you for the one that will take his/her time to help!      Lololooo liked this message

Thread: Short essay

631.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jan 2014 Thu 09:43 pm I am waiting for the turkish essays everybody. Try your luck Edited (1/30/2014) by gokuyum Edited (1/30/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: Short essay

632.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jan 2014 Thu 09:41 pm   Quoting * Lamda*   Quoting gokuyum Write a short essay about tooth ache in English. I will correct you and give you a score. Here is my essay   Günlerdir dişim çok ağrıyordu. Dişçiye gitmeyi hiç sevmesem de gitmeye karar verdim.  İnternetten bugüne randevu aldım. Hastaneye gittim. Sıramı beklemeye başladım. Sıram geldiğinde doktor beni içeri aldı. Dişime baktı. Bu dişi kurtarabilir misin dedim. Film çektirmelisin ondan sonra karar vereceğim dedi. Film çektirdim. Tekrar doktorun beni çağırmasını bekledim. Beni tekrar içeri aldı. Filme baktı. Bu dişi kurtarmak imkansız, en iyisi çekelim dedi. Ben de tamam öyleyse çekin dedim. Şimdi olmaz dedi. Dişin iltahap yapmış, bir süre antibiyotik kullanmalısın dedi. Ben hayal kırıklığına uğradım. Bu dişi şimdi çekip beni acı çekmekten kurtaramaz mısın dedim. Olmaz dedi.Ben de ilaçları kullanıp bir hafta sonra tekrar gelmeye razı oldum. For days my tooth was ia a great pain. Even though I don´t like going to the dentist,I decided to go. I got (took) an appointment  from the internet today. I went to the hospital. I waited for my turn. When my turn came the doctor took me inside. Ηe/she looked(examined) my tooth. Can you save this teeth, i said. You have to take a film(you mean an X-ray??) of your tooth and then I will decide,he/she said. I took the film(I guess). I waited for the doctor to call at me again. He/she took me inside again. He/she looked(examined) the film(x-rays??). It isn´t possible to save this tooth,the best thing is to extract it,he/she said. In that case i  agree to extract it, I said to him/her. It isn´t possible now he/she said. Your tooth is iflammated, you have to take antibiotics for a while,he/she said. I was disappointed. Can you extract this tooth now to save me from suffering, I said. It isn´t possible, he/she said. So, I accepted to  take the medicine and after a  will  go again(to the doctor).   ......offff get well soon   ....Ι hope I got the meaning of the story  since either my turkish neither my english is good enough   That was a great try. Now write an essay in Turkish * Lamda* liked this message

Thread: Short essay

633.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jan 2014 Thu 06:47 pm Write a short essay about tooth ache in Turkish. I will correct you and give you a score. Here is my essay   Günlerdir dişim çok ağrıyordu. Dişçiye gitmeyi hiç sevmesem de gitmeye karar verdim.  İnternetten bugüne randevu aldım. Hastaneye gittim. Sıramı beklemeye başladım. Sıram geldiğinde doktor beni içeri aldı. Dişime baktı. Bu dişi kurtarabilir misin dedim. Film çektirmelisin ondan sonra karar vereceğim dedi. Film çektirdim. Tekrar doktorun beni çağırmasını bekledim. Beni tekrar içeri aldı. Filme baktı. Bu dişi kurtarmak imkansız, en iyisi çekelim dedi. Ben de tamam öyleyse çekin dedim. Şimdi olmaz dedi. Dişin iltahap yapmış, bir süre antibiyotik kullanmalısın dedi. Ben hayal kırıklığına uğradım. Bu dişi şimdi çekip beni acı çekmekten kurtaramaz mısın dedim. Olmaz dedi.Ben de ilaçları kullanıp bir hafta sonra tekrar gelmeye razı oldum. Edited (1/30/2014) by gokuyum Lololooo, Jarmi, tunci, * Lamda*, elenagabriela and Turkish2412 liked this message

Thread: E to T

634.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jan 2014 Thu 06:33 pm   Quoting denizli Thanks. Makes sense but I can ask this with ´var´?   kedim var - I have a cat, I have got a cat Can I say Talilin güzel var mıydı?   We dont use var in that way.  There is no such thing like having a good holiday.

Thread: please someone translate these lyrics for me!!

635.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jan 2014 Thu 08:39 am   Quoting amila_b Bazen acı dinmez, bazen de yağmur Sometimes pain doesnt cease, sometimes rain Sevgilim gülümse, her şey unutulur Smile my love, everything will be forgotten. Suskunuz bu akşam üstü We are quiet this evening Hasrete yanmışız, neylersin .. We are burnt with longing, what to do? can someone translate it?

Thread: T -> E (1935)

636.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jan 2014 Thu 08:34 am   Quoting weezle But is Hamidiye suyu disliked or something? It continues:    Türkiye´de kitap kadar hakarete uğrayan hiç bir mal yoktur. Hamidiye suyu değil ,izmarit,kirli paçavra,eski kundura,boş şişe,hatta molozların içinden kırık tahta veya demir parçaları bile, sırasına göre,ham maddesinin tartısından fazla fiyat ve alıcı bulurlar; yalnız kitap,kör olası kitap adı batası kitaptır ki,yerlerde köpek tersiyle bir hizada ,altına bir bez parçası bile yayılmadan pazara çıkarılıyor Is he listing Hamidiye water as something disliked, or am I not understanding this grammar? And thank you very much—that was an excellent translation.   There is nothing insulted as much as books in Turkey. Not only Hamidiye water, even cigarette butts, dirty rags, old shoes, empty bottles, broken woods left in rubbles or iron pieces are sold more expensive than the weight of their raw material and they find buyers in the right time. Only books, only those damn books are put on the ground in line with dog shits and are put on sale even without a linen under them. Edited (1/30/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: T -> E (1935)

637.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jan 2014 Thu 07:57 am   Quoting weezle Hey guys, this one´s really confusing me, as I lack the cultural context. Was Hamidiye suyu expensive in 1935? Cheap? Common? Rare? A luxury? A political faux pas? It´s just the bold part that´s confusing me: Dün Salahaddin Güngör, ´´Kitap Morgu´´ adlı yazısında, ´´hemen her köşebaşında beliren´´ kitap sergilerinden bahsederken, buralarda ´´öyle değerli, öyle aranmakla bulunmaz kitaplar var ki, diyordu, insan bunların bir bardak Hamidiye suyu pahasına nasıl olup da satıldığına şaşar.´´   Yesterday Selahaddin Güngör wrote this in his article "Book Morgue" when he was talking about book displays which appear almost in every corner: "There are so many valuable and rare books in those displays, it makes you astonished to learn how they are sold at the expense of a one glass of Hamidiye water"   So writer wants to say they sell those books very cheap. Edited (1/30/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: t to e!

638.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jan 2014 Wed 09:00 am   Quoting Lololooo Başka bir şey var... yardım edebilir misin? "Sen benden gidersen bir şey diyemem. Sana ah etmem." ah etmek ne demek? I get it as to sigh, but it does not quite sound right in the context... Could it be, I will not blame you? Ne bilim... I am just guessing now lol.     ah etmek is like cursing someone. If you sigh so sincerely because of a cruelty, it is believed that God will hear your sigh and punish the responsible. Lololooo liked this message

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639.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jan 2014 Wed 08:27 am   Quoting Lololooo "sen böyle hıçkırdıkça benim içim yıkılıyor" Now, the "benim içim yıkılıyor" part is bothering me. Yıkılmak is to be demolished, be wrecked; to be pulled down; to be destroyed; to be ruined or to collapse... but içim?? I have tried to see other verbs that are paired with içim, and it seems to me that it may mean my heart, my insides? I do not get this part... and I do not want to be guessing :S And in this context,  hıçkırmak means to sob or to hiccup? The person was crying, but I looked it up and it shows as hiccup the first meaning, and then sob... But I guess it means to sobbing in regards to the context.  Thank you  As long as you sob like this, my inside is demolished. Here inside means his/her heart or soul.   Edited (1/29/2014) by gokuyum Edited (1/29/2014) by gokuyum [I decided to use "as long as" instead of "when"] Lololooo liked this message

Thread: What is this of kind of statement?

640.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jan 2014 Mon 05:14 pm Facebook philosophy? FGCarrizo and elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: What is this of kind of statement?

641.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jan 2014 Mon 05:12 pm   Quoting Tulip " Bana göre insanlar amelleri ile yargılanacaklardır, isimleri ile değil. Hatta inançları ile değil. Yalnızca amelleriyle. Çünkü o inançların zaten o amelleri size yaptırması gerekiyordur. Yani Allah size senin adın neydi, hangi partiye oy verdin, hangi ideolojiye sahiptin, sana ne diyorlardı sağcı mı, solcu mu, Müslüman mı, Yahudi mi, Hristiyan mı diye sormucak? Bunlar insanların birbirine dünyada taktığı isimlerdir. Allah bu isimlere bakmayacak. Onlar bizim birbirimize taktığımız dünyevi isimler, sıfatlar"   In my opinion people will be judged according to their deeds not according to their names and even not according to their believes. Only according to their deeds. Because those beliefs are supposed to make you do those deeds. God will not ask you what your name was, for which party you voted, which ideology you had, how people were describing you, rightist or leftist, Muslim, Jew or Christian. These are the names people put to eachother in this world. God will not consider these names. They are the worldly names and adjectives we use for each other. Edited (1/27/2014) by gokuyum Edited (1/27/2014) by gokuyum FGCarrizo liked this message

Thread: please someone translate these lyrics for me!!

642.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jan 2014 Mon 11:14 am   Quoting nessah hasret çöktü yine efkar dağlıyor Longing settled in (my soul), melancholly burns (me) again hüzünler sarmış dört yanımı sorrows sorrounded four sides of me kaç geceyi sabaha yarın ettim how many nights I waited till next day? yarim gene sormaz bu halımı My beloved doesnt still ask about my situation. yare gidem desem hayın bu yollar Let me go to beloved, let me say these roads are treacherous.   yitirmiş kalmışım soyha aklımı I lost my damn mind çiğer parem yanmış gönül derdime My lung burnt with the trouble of my heart. lokman neylesin What can Lokman do for me?  (Note: Lokman is a legendary doctor) ahle gülüm yaman deli bu sevda Oh my rose this love is terrible and crazy dağlar gibi duman duman yine başım My head is covered with fogs like mountains again.   inceden bir türkü tutturmuşum I am singing a türkü gözlerimin her damla her yaşına For every drop, every tears of my eyes    ahle yarim durmaz kanar şu kalbim Oh my beloved  my heart bleeds without stopping. viraneler gibi hazan (hazin?) bu gönlüm My heart is sorrowful like ruins. yıllarımı aldı hasret rüzgarı The wind of longing took my years. kapılır giderim bomboş umuda I am carried away with an empty hope. şu yaban diyarda yeller essin Let winds blow in this wild land.   yalnızım ben böyle bir başıma I am lonely like this, alone.   günler akıp gider ahuzarla Days are passing with sighing and crying.   gücümde yetmiyor geçen zamana I dont have strength to stop the time   yoruldum yorgunum tükendim artık I am tired and exhausted now.   kar boranlar yağmış yollarıma It snowed on my roads   çiğer parem yanmış gönül derdime lokman neylesin ahle gülüm yağma deli bu sevde dağlar gibi duman duman yere başım inceden bir türkü tutturmuşum gözlerimin her damla her yaşına ahle yarim durmaz kanar şu kalbim viraneler gibi hazan yine gönlüm yıllarımı aldı hasret rüzgarı kapılır giderim bomboş umuda ahle gülüm yağma deli bu sevde dağlar gibi duman duman yere başım inceden bir türkü tutturmuşum gözlerimin her damla her yaşına         Edited (1/27/2014) by gokuyum Edited (1/27/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: Canın olayım to english pls

643.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jan 2014 Mon 10:31 am   Quoting nessah Kader vurdu şu canıma Fate striked my heart Ciğerim yandı My liver burnt Gidişinle güneş söndü Sun died with your departure Günüm karardı My day darkened. Doyamadan çekip gittin You had walked off before I got enough of you ... Hatıran kaldı Your memories are left. Sen gidince yer gök deniz When you went, earth, sky, sea Dağlar ağladı Mountains cried. Anam ağladı gülüm bacım ağladı My mother cried my rose, my sister cried Hasretin çekilmiyor dön Your longing is unbearable, come back Yürek dağladı It burnt my heart Sensiz geçen şu ömrümü With this life passing without you Söyle neyleyim Tell me what should I do? Ölümden ağır bu derdi This trouble heavier than death Kime söyleyim Who should I tell? Uzaktanda olsa bır tek Even if you are far away, for once Sesin duyayım Let me hear your voice Olan oldu geçen gıtti What happened remained in the past Gelde sorayım Come let me ask Canın olayım Let me be your soul Gülüm kahrın alayım Let me take your sorrow Seni son kez görem Let me see you one last time Sonra yalan olayım Then let me disappear.       Edited (1/27/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/1/2014) by gokuyum nessah liked this message

Thread: deyi kılığı

644.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jan 2014 Mon 05:09 am taylam and deyi kılığı    For God´s sake isnt there an end to this interest of creating meaningless and artificial words?! Edited (1/27/2014) by gokuyum sufler liked this message

Thread: yardim eder misiniz lutfen?

645.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jan 2014 Sun 09:21 pm   Quoting elenagabriela     Melek gibisin lan   Thank you dear

Thread: t2e please

646.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jan 2014 Sun 02:49 pm   Quoting Henry     Ben de !!!  Gokuyum, düzeltmelerin için teşekkürler I (have) made more edits / I´ve done more editing We use made (to make) with nouns and adverbs.   eg We made a decision to leave, I made an effort, It was made quickly.     Thnak you a lot for the information henry Henry liked this message

Thread: I will have free time

647.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jan 2014 Sun 02:13 pm Maybe he means "final" with the last exam. I have 3 finals left. 3 finalim kaldı. Edited (1/26/2014) by gokuyum mehmet111 liked this message

Thread: t2e please

648.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jan 2014 Sun 01:56 pm I made more editing. Sometimes I edit more than 5 times Edited (1/26/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: t2e please

649.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jan 2014 Sun 01:47 pm Henry more corrections are coming. I hope I am not offending you. You can correct my English in return Quoting Henry My attempt as a learner, but their are a few idioms that I´m not sure about. [x]’yi asla cevap veremeyeceği bir soruyla baş başa bırakır. He leaves x face to face with a question that he(x) can never answer. He/she will never give X an answer, face to face he/she will leave him/her with a question. [x] ya babasının dediğini yapacaktır ya da ömür boyu verdiği kararın yükünü taşıyacaktır. Either X will do what his/her father said, or for all his/her life he/she will bear the burden of his/her decision. (or he/she will have to live with their choice) [x] bu seçimi yapamaz ama [y] geri adım atmayınca [x]’ye ayrılmaktan başka yol kalmaz. X wont be hasnt been able to make this choice, but when Y stands stood his/her ground (stands firm), other than to leave, there wont be was any no other choice for X . Wait for a Turk to check and correct my attempt. Obviously the context can change the meanings, but hopefully it helps you a bit.    Sometimes even using aorist tense we talk about past in Turkish. Edited (1/26/2014) by gokuyum Henry liked this message

Thread: what caught my eye today

650.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jan 2014 Sun 01:39 pm My beard growed again foka and kazpol liked this message

Thread: Could any one translate this for me ...Please

651.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jan 2014 Sun 01:14 pm   Quoting Kotb     i want only one more try  and i want to know if it can be send to a friend or not ?   No more tries for you If you are a girl you can send it to another girl friend. Because girls like romantic nonsenses. If you send it to a friend from opposite sex, it is like a love decleration   Edited (1/26/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: yardim eder misiniz lutfen?

652.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jan 2014 Sun 01:06 pm   Quoting Henry     You know you are also a major contributor, translator, corrector and teacher Gokuyum. Süpersin !!!!!    Thank you henry. I really like being spoiled

Thread: Could any one translate this for me ...Please

653.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jan 2014 Sun 12:50 pm   Quoting Kotb Is there any other tries?? I also wanted to know ... is it suitable to send this to a friend that you miss? Or it only can be for your boy or girlfriend?     Thanks for all your tries How many more tries do you want? Some people cant get even one     Edited (1/26/2014) by gokuyum TheNemanja liked this message

Thread: yardim eder misiniz lutfen?

654.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jan 2014 Sun 12:48 pm   Quoting elenagabriela I dont say that; both Tunci and Mehmet111 do a great and hard job here and I thank you both of you; but their contribution are different; it is great for all of us to have such teachers   What about my contribution?   Henry liked this message

Thread: yardim eder misiniz lutfen?

655.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jan 2014 Sun 05:01 am   Quoting Henry Mehmet, emeğin için çok teşekkürler.    A new tunci is coming?

Thread: ödevim için alt yazı...

656.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jan 2014 Sun 04:59 am   Quoting sufler Merhaba. On a website I found such a statement: "Ödevim için alt yazı hazırlarken bir kelimenin İngilizcesinde değil ama Türkçesinde ikilemde kaldım."   I have two questions in reference to this sentence. 1.) What could it mean "ödev için alt yazı hazırlamak"? I know the word alt yazı only as "subtitles", mainly in movies. But how can one prepare subtitles for their homework? 2.) What is the functions of the possessive suffixes -(s)i after English and Turkish? It´s like "I´m in doubts in a words´s Turkish one, not English one".. That sounds a bit weird.. My guess- are the forms with possessive suffix abbreviations for "..İngilizce ikileminde değil ama Türkçe ikileminde kaldım." Are my assumptions correct?   Thanks in advance. 1) Nice question. Maybe he studies cinema in university 2) You can interprete them such this: English or Turkish meaning of a word 3) Your assumptions are wrong.But I think use of ikilem is not correct in the sentence too.I would say: Ödevim için alt yazı hazırlarken bir kelimenin İngilizcesi hakkında değil ama Türkçesi hakkında ikilemde kaldım.   Edited (1/26/2014) by gokuyum Edited (1/26/2014) by gokuyum Edited (1/26/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: Sihirli Fasulye

657.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jan 2014 Sun 04:46 am I guess you are confused about çıkarmış..Maybe you think -ar is the present tense here but it is not. -ar is a derivational affix here. And it produces new verbs from verbs.  So çıkarmak is a different verb.   Sonra cebinden beş fasulye tanesi çıkarmış. Then he took 5 bean pieces out of his pocket. Edited (1/26/2014) by gokuyum Edited (1/26/2014) by gokuyum Edited (1/26/2014) by gokuyum Edited (1/26/2014) by gokuyum Edited (1/26/2014) by gokuyum Edited (1/26/2014) by gokuyum Edited (1/26/2014) by gokuyum Henry liked this message

Thread: Sihirli Fasulye

658.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jan 2014 Sun 04:31 am   Quoting Henry         Henry you cant use ler as personal suffix for things or animals. It is not gramatically correct. In the sentence you translated, not things but people(they) are in a difficult situation.   Edited (1/26/2014) by gokuyum Edited (1/26/2014) by gokuyum Edited (1/26/2014) by gokuyum Edited (1/26/2014) by gokuyum Edited (1/26/2014) by gokuyum Edited (1/26/2014) by gokuyum Henry liked this message

Thread: how to translate...?

659.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jan 2014 Sat 01:00 pm   Quoting A_Huli How can I translate: ´When did you lose your honour´ ? Ne zaman onurunu yitirdin? TheNemanja and A_Huli liked this message

Thread: p t from t to e

660.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jan 2014 Fri 05:58 pm Beyaz Bir Gemidir Ölüm Death is a white ship sen bu şiiri okurken ben belki başka bir şehirde olurum when you read this poem maybe I will be in another city. kötü geçen bir güzü ve umutsuz bir aşkı anlatan rüzgarla savrulan kağıt parçalarına yazılmış dağıtılmamış bildiriler gibi uzun bir yolculuğa hazırlanan yalnız bir yolculuğa. like announcements which are getting ready for a long and lonely journey.They were written on papers flying away with wind and they were not delivered to people. They tell about an autumn which passed bad and about a love which is desperate   çünkü beyaz bir gemidir ölüm because death is a white ship siyah denizlerin hep çağırdığı batık bir gemi a sunken ship which black seas always call. sönmüş yıldızlar gibidir it is like dead stars yitik adreslere benzer ölüm death is like lost adresses yanık otlar gibi like burnt grasses sen bu şiiri okurken ben belki başka bir şehirde ölürüm when you read this poem maybe I will be dying in another city. Edited (1/24/2014) by gokuyum Edited (1/24/2014) by gokuyum Edited (1/24/2014) by gokuyum Edited (1/24/2014) by gokuyum Edited (1/24/2014) by gokuyum noha naim liked this message

Thread: p t from t to e

661.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jan 2014 Fri 05:42 pm   Quoting noha naim gokuyum  thank you so much   Why do you thank me? I didnt even help you. I guess I will help you to deserve those thanks. Look at the next post Edited (1/24/2014) by gokuyum Edited (1/24/2014) by gokuyum noha naim liked this message

Thread: doğrusunu

662.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jan 2014 Fri 01:03 am   Quoting sufler Ok. Thanks So in this sentence "bir türlü" is a adjective describing nominalized "doğrusu"? Or it works independently as "somehow"? Can I say simply: "Bunu bir türlü doğru çeviremedim" to mean the same thing?   No "bir türlü" is not adjective. It is zarf (adverb). Because it describes the verb. Yeah it is the same thing. And it is more correct. Edited (1/24/2014) by gokuyum Edited (1/24/2014) by gokuyum sufler liked this message

Thread: translation from Ottoman Turkish?

663.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jan 2014 Fri 12:59 am   Quoting dbs21 Hi guys! I don´t know if you can help me, but I´m trying to find somebody who knows Ottoman Turkish. I want to translate a single page Thanx     I can try.

Thread: Class Meeting =)

664.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jan 2014 Wed 10:31 pm   Quoting elenagabriela ah....anladım....üzgünüm..neyse kendine iyi bak ...   Why dont you meet and send me meeting photos?

Thread: p t from t to e

665.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jan 2014 Wed 10:29 pm   Quoting noha naim    ok....thanks anyway   Too much love causes stomach problems I hope someone can translate your text for you.  noha naim and elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: A nice thought!! Please translate :))

666.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jan 2014 Wed 10:16 pm   Quoting dilliduduk But this is clearly google translate, obvious from  "It´sa" ...and you can confirm it yourself... I don´t get why people do that.     Yeah it is. I even added the link to my post now. And now I am the bad because I protested this.

Thread: A nice thought!! Please translate :))

667.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jan 2014 Wed 10:09 pm   Quoting latute You must be more polite towards people who are trying their best. Instead of insulting, tell the correct b.k herif      Trying best? This is not even his attempt. This is a google translation. At least he could write this. He simply tricked the other member.Here is it in the google translation: http://translate.google.com.tr/#en/tr/%22Marriage%20is%20a%20thousand%20little%20things.%0AIt%C2%B4s%20giving%20up%20your%20right%20to%20be%20right%20in%20the%20heat%20of%20an%20argument.%20It%C2%B4s%20forgiving%20another%20when%20they%20let%20you%20down.%0AIt%C2%B4s%20loving%20someone%20enough%20to%20step%20down%20so%20they%20can%20shine.%0AIt%C2%B4s%20friendship.%20It%C2%B4s%20being%20a%20cheerleader%20and%20trusted%20confidant.%20It%C2%B4s%20a%20place%20of%20forgiveness%20that%20welcomes%20one%20home%2C%20and%20arms%20they%20can%20run%20to%2C%20in%20the%20midst%20of%20a%20storm.%20It%C2%B4s%20grace%22   In your last sentence you tell me stop insulting but you are the one insulting me saying bok kafa (shit head). Great logic. Edited (1/22/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: A nice thought!! Please translate :))

668.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jan 2014 Wed 01:44 pm   Quoting lzd "Evlilik bin küçük şeyler olduğunu. Bu bir argüman sıcağında doğru olması için hakkınızı vazgeçiyor. Seni üzdüm zaman başka bağışlayıcı oluyor. Onlar parlaklık böylece istifa için yeterli birini sevmek oluyor. Bu dostluk. Bu bir amigo ve güvenilir bir sırdaş davranıyor. Bir fırtınanın ortasında bir ev, ve onlar çalıştırabilirsiniz silah, memnuniyetle af It´sa yer. Bu "lütuf bulunuyor   Dont paste here stupid google translations and trick people. This  translation is total nonsense.    Edited (1/22/2014) by gokuyum elenagabriela, Henry, dilliduduk and Turkish2412 liked this message

Thread: p t from t to e

669.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jan 2014 Wed 01:23 pm I am done with translating love poems and texts  Edited (1/22/2014) by gokuyum elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: dogrudan (sic) yana

670.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jan 2014 Wed 01:31 am   Quoting sufler Hmm.. and why don´t you say Bu millet her daim doğrunun yanında? Is it correct too? Or only the original form is correct?   Yeah it is correct. But we also have "yana olmak". http://tureng.com/search/yana%20olmak

Thread: Cant see who is logged in.

671.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jan 2014 Wed 12:58 am I guess there is a problem with the site. I cant see who is logged in. I feel  like a bat Please someone fix it.

Thread: dogrudan (sic) yana

672.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jan 2014 Wed 12:55 am   Quoting sufler Merhaba. On a website I´ve seen pictures of a group of Turkish people doing a kind of demonstration. They held a banner with the following statement: "Bu millet her daim dogrudan yana!".   Can you help me translate this? I can figure out only "This nation is always from the truth to the side"? But it doesn´t make much sense to me =(   It means this nation is always on the side of truth.  sufler liked this message

Thread: how do you say in turkish?

673.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jan 2014 Wed 12:53 am   Quoting Johnk normally i say turkce´de nasil soyleyebilirsin? Today i have seen another way...turkce´de nasil denir? Is this also correct?   Yes it is correct. It is a passive sentence and means "How is it said in Turkish?"

Thread: Again T-E Please, very appreciated in advance!

674.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Jan 2014 Mon 03:08 am   Quoting Lololooo I have another thing that puzzles me a lot.. Onu kan akıtacak kadar değil uğruna ölecek kadar seviyorum. kan akıtmak is to shed blood? would that mean to injure himself/sacrifice himself??  thank you !! I love her enough to kill myself for her not only enough to shed blood.

Thread: Stressing the words??

675.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Jan 2014 Mon 12:38 am Abla you are a linguist maybe this article can attract you   http://www.linguistics.uni-wuerzburg.de/fileadmin/04110230/user_upload/Kabak_CV/THE_PHONOLOGICAL_WORD_AND_STRESS_ASSIGNMENT_IN_TURKISH_KABAK_CV.pdf

Thread: Bergen/Arabesque

676.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Jan 2014 Mon 12:31 am   Quoting denizli That makes sense. I understand Arabesque music is moody or on the sad side. This station sounds a bit like that. Could Bengü´s yaralı be considered Arabesque?   Bengü is a pop singer as far as I know. I dont know if the song can be called arabesque because it is sad. There must be other criteria. But I dont know much about music. So I hope you can find someone who can answer you. Edited (1/20/2014) by gokuyum denizli liked this message

Thread: Stressing the words??

677.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jan 2014 Sun 11:54 pm   Quoting saragolub So there aren´t any rules or something? :/   There are some rules. You can find some if you google "kelime vurgsu" or "sözcük vurgusu".But my advice to you is dont bother with that. Edited (1/19/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: Bergen/Arabesque

678.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jan 2014 Sun 11:45 pm   Quoting denizli Another question related. I noticed on the JoyTurk Website they have a radio station "Efkar". http://karnaval.com/stations.php#/station.php?station_id=13 What is the significance of Efkar when related to Music, is it a genre in Turkish music?   Efkar is the plural of fikir in Arabic. Fikir means idea, thought. In Turkish we say fikirler (plural) instead of efkar. Efkar has another meaning in Turkish. It means melancholy. I dont know why it means that. Maybe because melancholic people get lost in their thoughts Efkar is not a music genre. Maybe because the main character of Turkish music is melancholy, so no need to make it a music genre     Edited (1/19/2014) by gokuyum ikicihan and denizli liked this message

Thread: Stressing the words??

679.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jan 2014 Sun 11:35 pm You cant speak a language always thinking about where to put the stress on words. Dont try to be perfect. Just speak it. In time you will learn how to pronounce them correctly. mehmet111, elenagabriela and Turkish2412 liked this message

Thread: Translation check

680.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Jan 2014 Fri 09:57 pm   Quoting livingalive Merhaba arkadaşlar   I´m kind of insecure about my Turkish so I just thought I´d check my translation here first. If I want to say: "I think I´ll be in Adana then, but I´m not sure. Do you know? I can ask Yağmur." (name changed because I´m slightly paranoid) it would be "Bence Sanırım Adana´da olacağım o zaman, ama emin değilim (is the comma in this sentence correct?). Siz biliyor musunuz? Yağmur´a sorabilirim (present continuous tense is correct?). Right?   Çok teşekkür ederim No need to be paranoid. You think people will track you because you wrote a name?     Edited (1/17/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: Spelling Questions

681.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Jan 2014 Fri 09:52 pm   Quoting tunci     The plural marking added onto proper nouns and added suffixes onto plural marking can not be seperated by an apostrophe. So, in both case, we don´t use an apostrophe.   Ablamlara Fatmalara   Note --->   That particular rule about using apostrophe is mentioned in TDK website as below :   UYARI: Özel adlara getirilen yapım ekleri, çokluk eki ve bunlardan sonra gelen diğer ekler kesmeyle ayrılmaz: Türklük, Türkleşmek, Türkçü, Türkçülük, Türkçe, Müslümanlık, Hristiyanlık, Avrupalı, Avrupalılaşmak, Aydınlı, Konyalı, Bursalı, Ahmetler, Mehmetler, Yakup Kadriler, Türklerin, Türklüğün, Türkleşmekte, Türkçenin, Müslümanlıkta, Hollandalıdan, Hristiyanlıktan, Atatürkçülüğün vb. I hate these rules. There are a lot of them.    tunci liked this message

Thread: No Comment

682.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Jan 2014 Fri 09:50 pm   Quoting tunci      Yorumsuz.     Very creative tunci liked this message

Thread: T-E May anyone help with this? Thank you.

683.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jan 2014 Wed 06:44 am   Quoting Lololooo Thank you a lot gokuyum. I have another question. Does "Zoru sevmek güzeldir" mean tough love is beautiful? Or to love by force is beautiful?  & this: "Sen olup başkasından olmayan, işte benim için bu."   It means: It is beautiful to love the tough.   I dont understand the second sentence. It doesnt make sense. So I cant translate it. Lololooo liked this message

Thread: T-E May anyone help with this? Thank you.

684.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jan 2014 Wed 03:50 am   Quoting Lololooo "Bu vakte kadar kendimle ettiğim savaşları bir ben bilirim" Thanks in advance to whoever helps me with this.     Only I know the fights I have fought against myself untill now. Lololooo liked this message

Thread: KARADAYI - sorry if questions have previously been opened about this

685.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Jan 2014 Mon 06:20 am I really hate this kind of romantic tv series but I will help you In this site you can watch Karadayı with english subtitles: http://www.viki.com/tv/10051c-karadayi-season-1

Thread: t2e

686.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Jan 2014 Mon 06:13 am   Quoting nessah Senin aşkın gönlümü perişan etti Your love made my heart miserable Senin aşkın gönlümü yaraladı Your love wounded my heart Sen beni öldürdün keder ve dertlerin ile You killed me with your sorrows and troubles Gönlümü çaresizleştirdin You made my heart desperate Gel nazlıcanım, sen derman et yaralarımı Come my dear, heal my wounds Aşkından yersiz oldum, niyedir ki yaşamam I have no place to go because of your love, why do I even live? Sen delirttin beni, gönlüm perişan ve dert yükledin bana You made me crazy, my heart is miserable, you loaded trouble on me İçime ateş düşürdün, beni garip gönül eyledin You threw a fire into me, you made me a broken hearted person Sen gülme ve ağlamayı karıştırdın You mixed laughing with crying Aşkın beni kaybettirdi Your love made me lose Kah bana ağladın, kah güldün bana ey nazlıcanım Sometimes you cried for me, sometimes you laughed at me my dear Yeter beni öldürdüğün, yeter beni yaktığın aşkım Enough that you kill me, enough that you burn me my love Dertlerim ve yaralarım, ağrılarım ve feryatlarım My troubles and wounds, my pains and my cries Yaşlandırdı, nede erken gitti yaşamım!............ They made me old, how quickly my life passed away.       nessah and FahimaE liked this message

Thread: turkish to english pls

687.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Jan 2014 Mon 06:02 am   Quoting lalegül Can someone please translate this for me ... "cocuk gibi küserim bazen, darılır, çatarım kaşlarımı...Düğüm düğüm olur başım olmumsuzluklar arasında...Çözülmezler ve imkansızlar içinde boğulsamda...Kadere inat susarım, istesemde istemesemde....Her insanın, her istediği olmadığı bu yaşam tarzında...Yaşarım ben, seni görsemde görmesemde...Bütün aşkların battığı denizlerde, yelken açsam da...Ölüme inat, ömre inat...yaşarım, hissetsemde....hissetmesemde...Koskoca hayat, bir bedene mi muhtaç sanarsın... Asla mola vermeyen bu zaman sularında...Sadece senin mi açtıktır yolun, Bilebilirmisin...Bilirmisin yanlızık ertesi inşa edilen yolları...Her İnsanın Yüreğinde idam ettiği biri olsada...Ölü bedenine şahit olmadan, görmeden, inanırmısın...Zannedermisin, Sende ölenin, onda yaşayacağını...Sende yok olan ondada varmıdır bilirmisin....Sana göre yürek acısı sonsuzmudur, Sonu Yokmudur...Nasıl yavaş yavaş oluştuysa içindeki sevgiler, emekler...Alışır elbet zamanla,Tükenir var olan sevdalar...Uzaklaşır senden, farkına varmadan acıyan yaralar....Ah Kalbim, sen ne dersin bilmem, çekilirmi bu yürek acısı..Beklermisin sonsuza dek, sana ait olmayan kara sevdanı...Açılırmısın denizlere, ararmısın umut dolu zamanları...Çok zor bir acıdır, zaman ile ayrılık anları...Sonu olmayan bir yolculuğa dayandı bu gönlüm...Aynı bıçağın kemiğe dayandığı an misali...Çıt desen kırılacak sanki bu sevda dalları...O dala mı tutunmak istersin, yoksa, umutlarına mı...Ufuklara bakarak geçirdiğin zamanmıdır yaşamak...Yada Arasından süzülerek gelmesini istediğin bir anmıdır...Bir yolmu gözlemek isterdin bitmesini istemediğin...Yoksa takvimlerdeki yılları sayar, bir off mu çekerdin...Hayat ne kadar kısa, yazık etmeye değermi...İnsan, bile bile, bir ömrü kendine zehredermi...Kanatsız bir sevdaya bir bedel biçebilirmi...Yada, bedelini öder, bu sevdadan vazgeçermi...Bir ayrılık sonrası, ölüm ertesi yanlızlığı yaşamaktansa...Umut dolu yıllara koşmak ister bu yürek...Bir ömre bedel acı çekmektense...Çekip gitmek ister, bu yürek...Umudun ve gerçek sevdaların yaşandığı diyarlara...Göç etmek ister bu gönlüm...Sevilmek ister, senin olmadığın bir şehirde...Seni hatırlamadan, görmeden, duymadan..."   Meh tunci liked this message

Thread: Thoroughly confused: T->E

688.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Jan 2014 Sun 03:32 am   Quoting weezle     Wait... is this "ise" somewhat different than "-sE" "ise"? I was expecting this somehow introduced a strange conditional, but... gah. I´m guessing "ise" just serves to add some emphasis here and doesn´t really translate well in this case. Please let me know if this works or if I´m missing some subtlety: "According to the investigation reports, Aslan, the general manager of Halkbank, issued a warning to Sarraf: "Does Dubai even produce wheat?"   ise and se have same functions. If they come after a verb they give a condition meaning (if) If they come after a noun they mean "as for".

Thread: lyrics t2e pls

689.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Jan 2014 Mon 02:16 am   Quoting stumpy thanks gokuyum, that is what I though but some how it was not making sense to me   Yeah it doesnt make a lot of sense to me too. But you know sometimes melody and music can be more meaningful than the words. Edited (1/6/2014) by gokuyum Edited (1/6/2014) by gokuyum nessah liked this message

Thread: lyrics t2e pls

690.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Jan 2014 Mon 12:56 am   Quoting nessah Sevgilimin yükü gözyaşları, Hastalık ve acı. Sevgilimin yüreği uyumaz Hep sabırsızdır.   The burden of my darling is tears, illness and pain. My darling´s heart never sleeps, it is always eager.   Eyvahlar olsun bana Ateşe verin bedenimi Seni sevmiş bu kalbim Bağlamış gözlerimi   Woe to me. Give my body to fire. My heart that loved you blindfolded me   Niye hiç uzaklara bakmıyorsun Sevgilim sorma, Ben hayır dedim, sen evet dedin Kimseye kulak asmadın Why dont you look at somewhere far away? Dont ask my darling. I said no, you said yes. You didnt listen to anyone.   Eyvahlar olsun bana Yakın bedenimi Seni sevmiş bu kalbim Bağlamış gözlerimi   Woe to me. Give my body to fire. My heart that loved you blindfolded me     nessah and stumpy liked this message

Thread: Birkaç ay sonra...

691.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Jan 2014 Sun 10:47 pm   Quoting Fiskje88 Merhaba arkadaşlar,   en son yazımı birkaç ay önce yazdım. Şimdi, Türkçem daha iyiymiş. Bense emin değilim ise. Onun için pratik yapıp duruyorum.   Son günlerde daha sık Türk yemekleri pişiriyorum. Noel boyunca yaprak sarması, sigara böreği ve zeytinyağlı taze fasulye yaptım, mesela. Onlar için pişirmek istedim, çünkü ailem hêle hêle (?) Hollanda lı yemekleri yer. ne yazık ki! Bence patatesli sebze leziz değil. Başka yemeklerden daha hoşlanıyorum. Ayrıca pirinci tercih ederim. Onun için yaprak sarması iyi bir seçimdi.   Son günlerde de arkadaşımın ailesiyle buluşmak istiyorum, çünkü onları tanımıyorum. Birkaç kez onlarla hemen hemen neredeyse buluşmuştum. Aslında, arkadaşımın erkek kardeşini tanırım çünkü bazen bizi ziyaret etti, ama önce arkadaşıma telefon etmemişti. Kardeşi, onun ağabeyinin arkadaşı olduğumu bilmiyor. Bu normal, Türk kültürü "bizi" bilmiyor. Çok insan için aşkımız zor bir konu. Benden dolayı arkadaşım annesiyle daha konuşmuyor. Annesi onu kabul etmez. Arkadaşım için zor olduğunu görebiliyorum. Ama hiç bir şey söyleyemiyorum. Her zaman "bu benim sorunum"der söyler. Bu zor duruma rağmen ailesiyle buluşmak istiyorum, çünkü onlara arkadaşımın harika bir insan olduğunu göstereceğim. Sadece, annesi bunu şimdi görmüyor. Onun oğlunun (?) başka bir kişi olmasını ister, ama mümkün değil. Arkadaşım işte öyle. Sonunda annesi onu anlayacak.   Evet. Bir şey yazmak istedim. Ya şimdi... I hope everything will end good for you. In Islam, it is not allowed muslim girls to marry with a man from another religion. I guess this causes problem. I dont think the problem is about your character. Your Turkish is getting better. Continue writing.

Thread: 70 inden sonra azmış in English?

692.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Dec 2013 Wed 12:14 pm   Quoting Abla A daring guess:   It seems that (s)he got wild after the age of 70.   We say it if an old man is interested a lot in women sexually. Edited (12/25/2013) by gokuyum Edited (12/25/2013) by gokuyum Edited (12/25/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: T to E again please

693.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Dec 2013 Sun 06:19 pm   Quoting Lololooo This one is really giving me a headache... How would you translate this? Başta dünya başıma yıkılsada akabinde gördüğüm. Thank you!    This doesnt make sense. The sentence seems incomplete. dilliduduk liked this message

Thread: T to E!

694.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Dec 2013 Sun 06:08 pm   Quoting Lololooo Thank you Abla, you are wonderful. I also have this: Az mangal yürekliyizdir...Kanımızın rotası belli değildir lakin nankörde değiliz. O kadarda hakkımızı yemeyin. How would you translate this?    "Mangal yürekli" means brave hearted. Here he uses "az" (little) to be modest. He means that they are brave hearted.   Abla liked this message

Thread: please translation to english

695.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Dec 2013 Sat 04:50 pm   Quoting Henry     My try at explaining. Could is used when something is still possible (but not definite), because it might still be done now or in the future. I could come to your party if I start to feel better. If you let me know when you plan to visit Samsun, I could show you around. (possible but less definite) If you let me know when you plan to visit Samsun, I can show you around. (possible and more definite) I could become a teacher, if I study hard. Could have (could´ve) is used for something in the past that was possible, but didn´t happen. I could have come to your party, but I didn´t go because I had a cold. If I´d (I had) known you were visiting Samsun, I could´ve shown you around. I could have been a teacher, but I never studied enough and dropped out. Often people write could of in place of could´ve, but this is wrong, even though the sound is the same. Sana yardım edebilirim (I can help you) Sana yardım edebilirdim (I could have helped you) It was possible, but it didn´t happen   Thank you very much Henry for your explanation. Henry liked this message

Thread: please translation to english

696.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Dec 2013 Sat 06:43 am Can someone explain me when we use "could have" and when we use "could"? Thank you.

Thread: please translation to english

697.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Dec 2013 Sat 06:41 am   Quoting noonna please translation to english  thank u in advance   ben cok ıs var burada sen benı tlf aryablırdın ben sana donebılırdım   I want to correct the original sentence too: Benim burada çok işim var. Sen beni telefonla arayabilirdin. Ben sana dönebilirdim.   Henry liked this message

Thread: please translation to english

698.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Dec 2013 Sat 06:33 am   Quoting Whiteout   I have too much (work) to do here, can you please call me and I (can) return your call. I have too much to do here,so please call me when you get a chance and I call you back later.Either one is right,but not a scanner copy translation     Whiteout why dont you quote posts like everyone does? Or at least leave a space between your answer and the quote.   Your taranslation has some mistakes.You must use could instead of can. Edited (12/21/2013) by gokuyum Edited (12/21/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Expressing -after-

699.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Dec 2013 Sat 06:28 am -meden önce (before) -dikten sonra (after)   These are the correct usages.

Thread: çünkü / için / bunun için / onun için / bu sebeple

700.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Dec 2013 Wed 04:30 am   Quoting lana-   1 Başım çok ağrıyor onun için eve gidip dinleneceğim 2 Sizinle sinemaya gelmeyeceğim çünkü o filmi seyrettim 3 Hava çok soğuk onun için kalın giyin 4 Çok para kazanmak istiyorum bu sebeple çok çalışıyorum 5 Ben hemen çıkıyorum bunun için çünki sinemaya yetişeceğim 6 Sana yardım edemem çünkü ders çalışacağım 7 Biraz kilo vermek istiyorum onun için rejim yapıyorum 8 Yemek yapmak senin için kolay olabilir ama benim için çok zor 9 Çok çalıştım çok yorgunum bu sebeple tatile çıkacağım 10 Bugün gazete okumadım onun için dunyada neler olmuş bilmiyorum     I hope that someone can check this sentences also i dont understand very clear the difference btw onun icin / bunun icin and correct use of bu sebeple şimdiden teşekkür ederim     Onun için means because of that, bunun için means because of this. It is up to you to choose which one to use. mehmet111 liked this message

Thread: harikasız

701.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Dec 2013 Wed 04:19 am   Quoting sufler Merhaba. What does it mean: harikasız ? I see this word quite often in colloquial texts on different websites. harika is wonderful, awesome; I know it... But -siz generally indicates that the feature is missing, so logically it should be like "wonderless" But I saw this word used positive contexts rather than negative... Perhaps it is a short for harikasınız?   It doesnt mean anything. It must be harikasınız. But Harika can be the name of a person. Than Harikasız means without Harika. Edited (12/18/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: arıduru

702.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Dec 2013 Sun 02:20 pm   Quoting sufler Merhaba. What is the meaning of arıduru in the sentence below? "Hanif kelimesi tertemiz, arıduru, pak anlamlarına gelmektedir."   I can´t find it in any dictionary, so I think it must be a root with a set of suffixes which I don´t know...   They are written seperately as abla wrote. Arı and duru. sufler liked this message

Thread: -yor + olabilir

703.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Dec 2013 Fri 12:54 am   Quoting sufler Merhaba. Quite often over the internet I come across sentence structures where a verb with -yor- suffix is directly followed by the Aorist form olabilir?   For example: *Akupunktur plasebo etkisi yapıyor olabilir *Yunanistan´da dev doğalgaz rezervi bulunuyor olabilir´   But -yor- forms can never make for a particle or noun, can they? So how is it possible that the Aorist form follows them like they were nouns? Shouldn´t it be for example Yunanistan´da dev doğalgaz rezervinin bulunması olabilir? Then we got a noun, so everything´s all right. Yunanistan´da dev doğalgaz rezervi bulunabilir.   I think instead of saying bulunabilir, people say bulunuyor olabilir. I dont think it is a correct usage. But I am not sure yet.   tunci liked this message

Thread: yapasım

704.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Dec 2013 Fri 12:44 am   Quoting sufler Hello. A few times I have seen verb forms like yapasım or unutasım in use. Could anyone explain their meaning and grammatical origin, I mean - what kind of suffixes they consist of?   Is that yap + as (if such a suffix exists at all) + possessive -ım Or perhaps yap + a (like in the participle güle güle) + s(a) (reduced conditional  It is ası/esi suffix.  This suffix makes adjectives from verbs.You can use these adjectives as nouns too. This suffix also gives the verb a wish or recommendation meaning. Ex: Görülesi yer. A place to see (you wish to see it or you recommend it to someone else)      Geberesi adam A man you wish him to die.

Thread: Can someone please help :)

705.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Dec 2013 Thu 05:17 am   Quoting annie23100 Hi, can someone please help me in translating this    Hello, I called your school today regarding the teaching job position, my name is Annie. I would like to apply for the English teacher job position in the school. I speak excellent English and French and a little Turkish. I have five years experience in teaching and I am able to teach all classes and levels. I am able to live on the Asian side and have no problem with that. I am very hardworking and serious at my job and have no problem working under pressure. I would be very happy if you could give me this job opportunity.    Thank you very much.  Merhaba bugün öğretmenlik pozisyonu için okulunuzu aradım. Adım Annie. Okulunuzdaki İngilizce öğretmenliği işi için başvurmak istiyorum. Harika İngilizce ve Fransızca konuşuyorum ve biraz Türkçe biliyorum. Öğretmenlikte beş yıl deneyimim var ve her sınıf ve düzeyde öğretebilirim. Asya tarafında yaşayabilirim, bu konuda sıkıntı olmaz. Çok çalışkanım ve işim konusunda ciddiyim. Baskı altında çalışmak konusunda sorunum yok. Bana bu iş fırsatını sunarsanız çok mutlu olurum.

Thread: could you translate please??

706.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Dec 2013 Thu 05:08 am   Quoting ayosh Hakem hayli nazik bir arkadaş çıktı, bu kadar abartılacak bir durum yoktu sanki ! ayrıca son model stadyumun 5 dakikalık karda cortlaması. thank you   The refree has turned out to be an over sensitive person.I guess there was nothing to exaggerate that much. But it is still something that a brand new stadium failed in 5 minutes of snow.

Thread: yardim eder misiniz lutfen?

707.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Dec 2013 Thu 04:48 am   Quoting Whiteout Thank youI didn´t get a chance to read your entire last post, however after reading the first paragraph I started going crazy lol. I am sorry I have a mind that works like a scanner in many languages to find written errors.Unless Turk Dil Kurumu screwed up one of the best created languages in Indu European languages family since the time I studied Turkish, there are way too many errors even in the first paragraph.On the other hand, you are right about not not seperating some of the nouns with an aphostrophy.Just it is naturally coming to me while I am typing or reading, I don´t even remember the rules unless I see the mistake or mistakes. Sounds strange I knowGood luck,but there are too many to fix.Rose   I dont agree with some explanations of TDK too. I think that a suffix coming after a proper noun must be seperated including Türkçe I dont understand why we seperate suffixes after some proper nouns and why we dont after others. But when we write an article, it is expected from us to obey the rules that TDK set. So I have no other option than obeying them Edited (12/12/2013) by gokuyum Edited (12/12/2013) by gokuyum Abla liked this message

Thread: Can anyone identify this music?

708.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Dec 2013 Tue 05:57 am   Quoting Kelowna     I agree to disagree............ the back ground music notes are to different in this.   Meh

Thread: yardim eder misiniz lutfen?

709.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Dec 2013 Tue 05:50 am   Quoting Whiteout No I insist,Turkce, Turkcede, Turkceden, Turkceye,Turkcenin shouldn´t be ever written seperately.It is called "ismin bes hali" and usually you learn in 2nd grade that you never seperate them.However in correct Academic Turkish you don´t use Turkcede nasil dersin anyway. You should say Turkce nasil dersin,grammatically Turkce nasil dersin is correct way to ask. Please refer to Wikipedia to see how it should written "Turkcede."Take care.   Yeah I guess you are right about Türkçe. Thank you for insisting  TDK says you cant seperate a suffix coming after a derivational afffix. ANd it is -çe in Türkçe.  But I dont agree with you about not seperating these case suffixes always. Read the first item.   Kesme İşareti ( ’ ) 1. Özel adlara getirilen iyelik, durum ve bildirme ekleri kesme işaretiyle ayrılır: Kurtuluş Savaşı’nı, Atatürk’üm, Türkiye’mizin, Fatih Sultan Mehmet’e, Muhibbi’nin, Gül Baba’ya, Sultan Ana’nın, Mehmet Emin Yurdakul’dan, Kâzım Karabekir’i, Yunus Emre’yi, Ziya Gökalp’tan, Refik Halit Karay’mış, Ahmet Cevat Emre’dir, Namık Kemal’se, Şinasi’yle, Alman’sınız, Kırgız’ım, Karakeçili’nin, Osmanlı Devleti’ndeki, Cebrail’den, Çanakkale Boğazı’nın, Samanyolu’nda, Sait Halim Paşa Yalısı’ndan, Resmî Gazete’de, Millî Eğitim Temel Kanunu’na, Telif Hakkı Yayın ve Satış Yönetmeliği’ni, Eski Çağ’ın, Yükselme Dönemi’nin, Cumhuriyet Dönemi Türk Edebiyatı’navb.  “Onun için Batı’da bunlara birer fonksiyon buluyorlar.” (Burhan Felek)        1919 senesi Mayıs’ının 19’uncu günü Samsun’a çıktım. (Atatürk)        Yer bildiren özel isimlerde kısaltmalı söyleyiş söz konusu olduğu zaman ekten önce kesme işareti kullanılır: Hisar’dan, Boğaz’dan vb.        Belli bir kanun, tüzük, yönetmelik kastedildiğinde büyük harfle yazılan kanun, tüzük, yönetmelik sözlerinin ek alması durumunda kesme işareti kullanılır: Bu Kanun’un 17. maddesinin c bendi... Yukarıda adı geçen Yönetmelik’in 2’nci maddesine göre... vb.       Özel adlar için yay ayraç içinde bir açıklama yapıldığında kesme işareti yay ayraçtan önce kullanılır: Yunus Emre’nin (1240?-132, Yakup Kadri’nin (Karaosmanoğlu) vb.       Ek getirildiğinde Avrupa Birliği kesme işareti ile kullanılır: Avrupa Birliği’ne üye ülkeler...       UYARI: Sonunda 3. teklik kişi iyelik eki olan özel ada, bu ek dışında başka bir iyelik eki getirildiğinde kesme işareti konmaz: Boğaz Köprümüzün güzelliği, Amik Ovamızın bitki örtüsü, Kuşadamızdaki liman vb. UYARI: Kurum, kuruluş, kurul, birleşim, oturum ve iş yeri adlarına gelen ekler kesmeyle ayrılmaz: Türkiye Büyük Millet Meclisine, Türk Dil Kurumundan, Türkiye Petrolleri Anonim Ortaklığına, Türk Dili ve Edebiyatı Bölümü Başkanlığının; Bakanlar Kurulunun, Danışma Kurulundan, Yürütme Kuruluna; Türkiye Büyük Millet Meclisinin 112’nci Birleşiminin 2’nci Oturumunda; Mavi Köşe Bakkaliyesinden vb.  UYARI: Başbakanlık, Rektörlük vb. sözler ünlüyle başlayan bir ek geldiğinde Başbakanlığa, Rektörlüğe vb. biçimlerde yazılır.  UYARI: Özel adlara getirilen yapım ekleri, çokluk eki ve bunlardan sonra gelen diğer ekler kesmeyle ayrılmaz: Türklük, Türkleşmek, Türkçü, Türkçülük, Türkçe, Müslümanlık, Hristiyanlık, Avrupalı, Avrupalılaşmak, Aydınlı, Konyalı, Bursalı, Ahmetler, Mehmetler, Yakup Kadriler, Türklerin, Türklüğün, Türkleşmekte, Türkçenin, Müslümanlıkta, Hollandalıdan, Hristiyanlıktan, Atatürkçülüğün vb. UYARI: Sonunda p, ç, t, k ünsüzlerinden biri bulunan Ahmet, Çelik, Halit, Şahap; Bosna-Hersek; Kerkük, Sinop, Tokat, Zonguldak gibi özel adlara ünlüyle başlayan ek getirildiğinde kesme işaretine rağmen Ahmedi, Halidi, Şahabı; Bosna-Herseği; Kerküğü, Sinobu, Tokadı, Zonguldağıbiçiminde son ses yumuşatılarak söylenir. UYARI: Özel adlar yerine kullanılan “o” zamiri cümle içinde büyük harfle yazılmaz ve kendisinden sonra gelen ekler kesme işaretiyle ayrıl­maz. 2. Kişi adlarından sonra gelen saygı ve unvan sözlerine getirilen ekleri ayırmak için konur: Nihat Bey’e, Ayşe Hanım’dan, Mahmut Efendi’ye, Enver Paşa’ya; Türk Dil Kurumu Başkanı’na vb. 3. Kısaltmalara getirilen ekleri ayırmak için konur: TBMM’nin, TDK’nin, BM’de, ABD’de, TV’ye vb. 4. Sayılara getirilen ekleri ayırmak için konur: 1985’te, 8’inci madde, 2’nci kat; 7,65’lik, 9,65’lik, 657’yle vb. 5. Belirli bir tarih bildiren ay ve gün adlarına gelen ekleri ayırmak için konur: Başvurular 17 Aralık’a kadar sürecektir. Yabancı Sözlere Karşılıklar Kılavuzu’nun veri tabanının Genel Ağ’da hizmete sunulduğu gün olan 12 Temmuz 2010 Pazartesi’nin TDK için önemi büyüktür. 6. Seslerin ölçü ve söyleyiş gereği düştüğünü göstermek için kullanılır:       Bir ok attım karlı dağın ardına Düştü m’ola sevdiğimin yurduna İl yanmazken ben yanarım derdine Engel aramızı açtı n’eyleyim (Karacaoğlan) Şems’in gözlerine bir şüphe çöreklendi: “Dostum ne’n var? Her şey yolunda mı?” (Elif Şafak) Güzelliğin on par’etmez Bu bendeki aşk olmasa (Âşık Veysel) 7. Bir ek veya harften sonra gelen ekleri ayırmak için konur: a’dan z’ye kadar, Türkçede -lık’la yapılmış sözler. cosmopolite liked this message

Thread: Can anyone identify this music?

710.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Dec 2013 Mon 06:56 pm   Quoting ahmet_a1b2 Sounds like this http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XJp0ENiGV7k   I agree.Here is an enstrumental version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8NMBkS9PNU Edited (12/9/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Test-123

711.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Dec 2013 Mon 04:06 pm   Quoting tunci     May be those texts were something like this ?    Hikmet´in dört yaşındaki oğlu çok güzel konuşuyor.  Subject                                Hikmet´s 4 year old son is speaking very well. Hikmet´s son who is 4 year old is speaking very well.   whereas ; Hikmet´in dört yaşında [bir] oğlu var.  Subject                    Object  Hikmet has 4 year old son.   Dear tunci I think subject here is : Hikmet´in dört yaşında oğlu. We cant seperate it. I am thinking about why sometimes we use -ki and why sometimes we dont use it. When I have an answer I will post it   Edited (12/9/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: T to E please help

712.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Dec 2013 Mon 03:51 am   Quoting Jackson23 hasret, yanlızlığı çoğaltan deniz  ayrılık acıyla süzülür kandan  nefesin fermandır Topkapı Sarayı´nda  dönüşünü bekliyor rıhtımda şehzadeler  öylesine yorgun, mahzun ve candan    Longing is a sea that increases loneliness Seperation is filtered with pain from blood. Your breath is an edict in Topkapı Palace. Princes wait your return in the dock So tired, sad and sincere.   Edited (12/9/2013) by gokuyum Sonia1981 and Alizeh liked this message

Thread: small e. text to t. please

713.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Dec 2013 Mon 03:27 am   Quoting ValeriYa The elder I am, the better I understand how practical is old turkish tradition of omitting birthday celebrations for audults. How important the day was for me in univercity time and how irritating it is now, 15 years later! I do not belive the words I hear and I do not like unnecessary presents I get. Every year I wish to turn my birthday to a regular day. Usually I close my phone and travelling somewhere far, but mails find me even on other part of the Globe. Yaşlandıkça Türklerin yetişkinlerin doğum günlerini kutlamama geleneğinin ne kadar pratik olduğunu daha iyi anlıyorum. Üniversitedeyken doğum günü benim için ne kadar önemliydi ama 15 yıl sonra şimdi ne kadar da rahatsız edici! Duyduğum sözlere inanmıyorum ve aldığım gereksiz hediyeleri beğenmiyorum. Her yıl doğum günümü sıradan bir güne döndürmeyi diliyorum. Genellikle telefonumu kapatıyorum ve uzak bir yere gidiyorum. Ama mailler dünyanın en uzak yerinde olsam bile beni buluyor.   Edited (12/9/2013) by gokuyum Edited (12/9/2013) by gokuyum Sonia1981 and ValeriYa liked this message

Thread: yardim eder misiniz lutfen?

714.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Dec 2013 Mon 03:20 am   Quoting Whiteout Hi First of all you didn´t have to seperate "de" in Turkce´de, you simply type Turkcede.Second, your question is little complicated as they don´t use "are you remembering" in Turkish,however if you are seeking a mode a mode translation for a legal intend or so, "do you remember" translates to "hatirlar misin?" not to "hatirliyor musun?".For every day translation yes you may say "hatirliyor musun" for" do you remember" but certainly not the correct translation.Take care   No you have to seperate de with an apostrophe. Because Türkçe is a proper noun. So Türkçe´de is correct. Edited (12/9/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Merhaba Almanyadan :))))

715.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Dec 2013 Fri 08:03 pm   Quoting Abla Memnun oldum. Sınıfımıza hoşgeldiniz.   Bana gelince finliyim. Üç yıldır Türkçe öğreniyorum.   There is a saying in Turkish abla "to write the book of something" It means you know everything about that thing.    I guess after three years now you can write the book of Turkish language elenagabriela, TheNemanja and tunci liked this message

Thread: durumu çaktı

716.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Dec 2013 Sun 11:29 pm   Quoting sufler Merhaba. Please help me figure out how to translate "durumu çaktı" in this sentence: Evinde öldürülen kadının, sokakta vurularak hayatını kaybeden doktora cep telefonundan, "Kocam durumu çaktı, haberin olsun. Dikkatli ol" diye SMS attığı belirlendi.   "It was stated that the woman who was killed at her home, had sent a SMS from her cellphone saying "my husband, he/she nailed the situation (?), be informed. Watch out!" to the doctor who passed away by being shot on the street."   It is a slang expression. It means: He has realized the situation. He has realized what is happening. Edited (12/1/2013) by gokuyum mehmet111 liked this message

Thread: idrarlı

717.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Dec 2013 Sun 10:35 pm   Quoting sufler Merhaba. This is a newspaper sentence: "Avrupa Birliği´nden ayrılmak isteyen Ukrayna Devlet Başkanı´na idrarlı protesto!" what does the word idrarlı mean? Does it have something to do with urine (idrar)? How can it be an "urine protest"?   A protest with urine. They peed on his photos sufler liked this message

Thread: When is İ pronounced like E?

718.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Dec 2013 Sun 01:30 am   Quoting sufler But this is not the first time I hear such pronunciation. Listen also to the piece of the video that eblove asks to help them with in this thread: http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_58106 In the first line they transcribed it correctly as "dedi", but I also can hear the girl saying "dede" as well... Actually eblove´s post made me start thinking about it     I guess soemtimes we pronounce it like e. I think it is because short "i" has a similar sound with e. sufler liked this message

Thread: pls help E-T

719.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Dec 2013 Sun 01:23 am   Quoting lalegül   I know it´s a bit personal and a bit long but I need some help to get it translated... please help me... "Please, lets talk about this. I know we are both miserable without each other.. I’m not saying lets be together again. I’m asking you to just talk with me. You can ask me anything you want and I will answer you honestly. And whenever you tell me you don’t wanna talk again I will respect it. We just need to talk. We can’t end it like this.   What are you gonna lose by talking to me one last time? Please at least just think about it. I can´t handle this situation on my own. I´m dying inside." Lütfen bu konu hakkında konuşalım. Birbirimiz olmadan ikimiz de acınacak durumdayız. Tekrar birlikte olalım demiyorum. Sadece benimle tekrar konuşmaya başlamanı istiyorum. Bana istediğin herşeyi sorabilirsin, ben de seni dürüstçe yanatlayacağım. Bana ne zaman artık konuşmak istemediğini söylersen, buna saygı duyacağım. Sadece konuşmaya ihtiyacımız var. Bu şekilde bitiremeyiz.   Son bir defa benimle konuşsan ne kaybedersin? Lütfen en azından bunu bir düşün. Bu durumu kendi başıma halledemiyorum. İçten içe ölüyorum.

Thread: When is İ pronounced like E?

720.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Dec 2013 Sun 01:07 am   Quoting sufler Hmm.. maybe. But for example, listen to this guy pronouncing yedi: http://www.forvo.com/word/yedi/#tr I can clearly hear he says "di" at the end. Contrary to this woman pronouncing dedi - http://www.forvo.com/word/dedi/#tr It´s like a completely different sound! Sounds totally like "dede" to me. (or even dedı !)   Yeah. I agree about woman´s pronounciation. It is weird. sufler liked this message

Thread: When is İ pronounced like E?

721.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Dec 2013 Sun 12:08 am Wovels are short in Turkish. Maybe that is why you hear them that way. Or maybe because of your native language, you have a different concept about wovels. Edited (12/1/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Definite But Partial Object?

722.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Dec 2013 Sun 12:02 am   Quoting Abla O kitabı okudum.   Did I necessarily finish the book?   Yeah it gives such a meaning.

Thread: Press article: Açıklama Adana´da...

723.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Nov 2013 Sat 01:47 pm   Quoting sufler Merhaba. I need help translating this sentence from a press article: "Açıklama Adana’da, 10 dakika arayla gerçekleştirilen çifte cinayette ilginç ayrıntılar ortaya çıkmaya başladı. "   What is the word "açıklama" doing at the very beginning of the sentence?? The rest is quite clear to me: "Interesting details in (the case of) a murder of a couple, which was committed with a 10-minute interval in Adana, have begun to come out." Is there a place for "açıklama" (=statement, explanation) in this translation?   Yeah it looks weird that way. But if you put " : " this sign, it makes sense. Açıklama: Adana´da.......

Thread: Sevdiğim/Seveyim

724.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Nov 2013 Sat 01:40 pm   Quoting denizli Thanks. Makes sense with beloved since in the rest of the sentence there was a verb so I was confuses why there would be 2 verbs, so now your explanation, it is changed from a verb.   Can I say "Bu pisirdik tavuk" for this is cooked chicken?   I googled Personal Participle, some sites insisted it was "dik" but then again I could not find this term in English grammar. Doesn´t matter, I just wanted to understand the meaning. You cant use dik with pişirmek. There are other suffixes like -dik which make verbs adjectives. You should use the proper suffix for that verb.   Here are the suffixes: -an, -ası, -mez, -ar, -dik, -ecek, -miş   We use suffix miş with pişmek or pişirmek.   "Pişmiş tavuk" means cooked chicken.

Thread: Benim ailem - Writing practice

725.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Nov 2013 Sat 02:07 am I see now you didnt obey wovel harmony when you use -da suffix.   Annem da is wrong annem de is correct.

Thread: presumably incorrect sentence

726.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Nov 2013 Sat 01:54 am   Quoting sufler Merhaba. Is it just my impression or there is something missing in this sentence?? "Kökten dinci şiddetin kendilerini endişelendirdiğine vurgu yapan Papa, İslam’ın gerçek müminlerinin nefret dolu genellemelere mahkûm edilemeyeceğini dile getirdi."   Shouldn´t there be a possessive suffix after şiddet? Like kökten dinci şiddetinin? Because it makes tamlama with kökten dinci, doesn´t it?   Nope. "Kökten dinci" functions as an adjective here not as a noun.So using possesive suffix is wrong. "Kökten dinci şiddet" means "fundementalist violance". Edited (11/30/2013) by gokuyum sufler liked this message

Thread: Sancaklar Mosque

727.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Nov 2013 Fri 07:55 pm It doesnt look like mosque. I am not against modern approach but that doesnt mean this approach should ignore even some most basic characteristics.

Thread: a 30% chance

728.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Nov 2013 Thu 10:24 pm   Quoting sufler Well, thank you! But I´m still curious.. I´ve found many similar sentence examples in google and in most of them they use the expression "ihtimalle" like Abla suggested...   Is that really incorrect to say: Makinaların 2000 yılında yüzde otuz ihtimalle ortalama bir insan önünde insan zekasını beş dakika boyunca başarılı bir şekilde taklit edeceği ni duyuruldu. ??   It is correct. sufler liked this message

Thread: Sevdiğim/Seveyim

729.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Nov 2013 Wed 11:18 pm   Quoting denizli I was trying to understand these: Sevdiğim - (-dik) Personal Participle Seveyim - Subjunctive Mood   Are these common tenses in Turkish? What do they mean? -dik is not a personal participle. It makes verbs adjectives. And that  "im" is possesive suffix there. Ex: Okuduğum kitap: The book I read.  You can use it as a noun too. Ex: Sevdiğim geldi. My beloved came.   Seveyim means let me love.  sev-e-y-im  "im" is personal participle here. Here is some information about subjunctive mood: http://www.turkishlanguage.co.uk/submood.htm       Edited (11/27/2013) by gokuyum Edited (11/27/2013) by gokuyum denizli liked this message

Thread: Benim ailem - Writing practice

730.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Nov 2013 Wed 11:00 pm   Quoting gvado Hi all! I felt like practising my writing and thought you might like to get to know something more about my family. I´m looking forward to your comments! I hope you can help me to improve my language and eliminate some errors... Thanks in advance! Bugün size ailemi tanıştırmak istiyorum. Ailem çok büyük değil. Benim iki tane kardeşim var ama şimdi herkesin bir eşi var, ve annem ve babamın iki torunu var. Bu eşim. Adı M., 31 yaşında. 3 yıldan beri Belçika’da oturuyor, ama 5 yıl önce birbirimizle tanıştık buluştuk. Çocuğumuz yok. O Suriyeli. C&A’da çalışıyor, ama gelecek(next) geçen yıl öğretmenlik eğitimine başlamak istiyor. Haftada 4 kere Hollandaca öğreniyor. Botlardan, limandan ve denizden çok hoşlanıyor. Gitar çalmayı sever ve müzik dinlenmekten ve film izlemekten zevk alır. Güneşli ve sıcak havayı beğenir. Bunun için kışın ev kuşu (evcimen kimse) oluyor. Bunlar annem ve babam. Annemin adı M., o 58 yaşında. Babamın adı E., o 59 yaşında. Annem önceleri hemşireydi, ama şimdi ev hanımı. O da gönüllü iş yapıyor. Uyuşturucu bağımlılarına ve alkoliklere yardım ediyor. Babam mühendis. Çok becerikli ve hep alet ler tamir ediyor bütün aile bireyleri için. O yemek ler pişirmeyi sever. O çok lezzetli yemekler yapar. Bu kız kardeşim, adı L. O 26 yaşında. Bu eşi mi , o eniştem. Adı H. 28 yaşında. İkisi nden de sanatçılar. L. tiyatro eğitimi aldı yaptı, ama şimdi sanat akademisine gidiyor. L. kültür merkezinde ‘Bozar’ ve lokantada çalışıyor ve aynı zamanda ders çalışıyor. O bitkilerden hoşlanıyor ve balkonunda sebze ve bitkiler yetiştiriyor. Eniştem yönetmen, ama az para filmden az para kazanıyor. Bunun için da başka bir iş yapıyor. Bir dükkanda çalışıyor. Elbise yi satıyor. O da pişirmekten hoşlanıyor ve onun yemekleri lezzetli. Bu ağabeyim. Adı H. ve 31 yaşında. Bu hanımı. O yengem. Adı T. O da 31 yaşında, yani onlar kadar büyük. Ağabeyim da mühendis ve el işleri yapmaktan etmekten zevk alıyor. O da çok yemek pişirir. O bisiklete binmekten hoşlanıyor. Yengem da mühendislik öğrendi, ama şimdi Leuven’de üniversitede çalışıyor. O profesör ve biyomekanik dersi veriyor. O gitar ve ut çalar r ve yüzmekten zevk alır. H. ve T.’nin iki tane çocuğu var S. ve M. S. erkek yeğenim. O 5 yaşında. O çok konuşur ve hep beni güldürür. O korsanlar, Superman ve Spiderman’dan çok hoşlanıyor. O arabalardan, botlardan ve uçaklardan hoşlanıyor. Ve her zaman Lego ile oynar. En sevdiği renk mavi. Onun kız kardeşi M. O 2 yaşında. O çok aktif. Büyük bisikletlerden hoşlanıyor, ama henüz biraz kısa. Oyuncak bebekleri çok sever.  Onun en sevdiği renk pembe.   Ailem çok önemli benim için, çünkü hep her zaman aileme güvenebilirim saymak edebilirim (I can always count on them). Onlar benim hep yardım sever ve hep teselli eder.  Onlar bana yardım etmeyi sever ve beni hep teselli eder.   This is a good try. Keep posting your texts. dambasalma and tunci liked this message

Thread: kib derler ve giderler translation?

731.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Nov 2013 Wed 10:48 pm   Quoting lalegül I didn´t ask for your opinion - I asked for your help? If you don´t want to then don´t comment please.    Okay then. Good luck with the translation.

Thread: Why do Turks always fight each other?

732.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Nov 2013 Wed 07:55 pm I want to fight with others when I stop fighting with myself. But it seems I have no luck loosha liked this message

Thread: a 30% chance

733.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Nov 2013 Wed 07:53 pm   Quoting sufler Merhaba. I need to translate this piece of text, sort of technical: "He announced that by the year 2000, the machine will have a 30% chance for successful imitating human intelligence for 5 minutes in front of an average person."   My try: "2000 yılına kadar, makinenin ortalama bir kişiye karşı beş dakikadır insan istihbaratını başarılı taklit etmesi için %30 şans olduğunu belirtti."   I´m not sure about expressing the ...% chance in Turkish, so all corrections will be dearly welcome Makinaların 2000 yılında ortalama bir insan önünde insan zekasını beş dakika boyunca başarılı bir şekilde taklit etme olasılığının yüzde otuz olacağı duyuruldu.   sufler liked this message

Thread: E - T please......

734.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Nov 2013 Wed 07:49 pm Parmaklarımı senin için çaprazlıyorum jolanaze and Sir_Robalot liked this message

Thread: kib derler ve giderler translation?

735.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Nov 2013 Wed 07:45 pm This text is too long and too useless.

Thread: english to turkish pls

736.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Nov 2013 Wed 07:43 pm   Quoting nazarnazar People laugh because I am different, I laugh because they are all the same.   İnsanlar farklı olduğum için gülüyor, ben de onlar hep aynı oldukları için gülüyorum. Sir_Robalot liked this message

Thread: A comment translation

737.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Nov 2013 Sat 08:14 pm " gerçekten de güldürmüyor bende polonyalılar hitlerin elinde katledildiğinde ağlamamaıştım zaten geçmişini unutmamışsın güzel fakat o karikatüre ettiğin milletleri kimlerin o hale getirdiğini de bizahmet çiziver o zaman nobel edebiyat ödülü bile alırsın"   I dont fully understand what she tries to say but here is my translation:   It really doesnt make you laugh. I didnt cry too when Polonians were slaughtered in the hands of Hitler. It is good that you havent forgotten your past. But please draw who put the nations you caricatured in that situation then you can even get a nobel literature award. Edited (11/23/2013) by gokuyum Edited (11/23/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: T to E PLEASEEE

738.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Nov 2013 Sat 07:52 pm "laftan anlamak" is not about obeying an order. It can be translated as "to listen to reason" as tomac said. I translated it "girl didnt want to listen to him" thinking that girl behaving irrational.

Thread: Hello! T to E please :-) !

739.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Nov 2013 Sat 07:46 pm   Quoting tomac I think that the last sentence:   Uzaktan bakarsın eserine   May also mean: You will look from distance on his/her work.   I agree. tomac liked this message

Thread: Telling the difference: passive vs reflexive

740.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Nov 2013 Sat 07:41 pm   Quoting sufler Merhaba. It is a well-known fact that in Turkish many of the reflexive verbs are created the same way as thew passive voice (by adding -il- or -n-) suffix. So, then.. how can you tell the difference if a verb in a sentence is meant to be reflexive or passive? Of course there are some obvious cases, like kitap yazıldı - certainly the book didn´t write itself, so it was written. BUT for example: çocuk yıkanıyor - how can you know if the child is washing themselves (having a bath) or perhaps a parent is washing them? You should make a guess

Thread: big ask but need to cheer someone up any help appreciated ;)

741.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Nov 2013 Thu 04:48 pm   Quoting lana-   Bence sen hoş, terbiyeli ve şefkatli birisin. Geçmiş ilişkilerinden dolayı üzgün olduğunu biliyorum. İnsan incindiğinde tekrar aynı şekilde hissetmesi zordur. İnsanlara güvenmekte zorlandığını biliyorum ve sebebini tamamen anlıyorum.  Seninle tanıştığım için mutluyum. Benzer şeyleri yaşadık.  Kendini çoğu kez küçümsüyorsun, lütfen böyle yapma. Kendine daha çok değer vermelisin. Yakışıklısın ve güzel bir karaktere sahipsin. Gerçekten hoşuma gidiyorsun.  Aslını sorarsan daha önce senin kadar iyi bir insanla tanışmadım. Aynı zamanda geçmişimden dolayı bir ilişkiye başlamamın  zor olduğunun tamamıiyle  farkındayım. Lütfen ilgilendiğim tek şeyin bu olduğunu düşünme. Gerçekten senden hoşlanıyorum ve aramızda bir şey olmazsa bile seninle arkadaş kalmayı umuyorum. Senin için biraz üzülüyorum. Birisini sevdiğin için çok şeyler kaybettin. Ve şimdi tüm ailenden uzaklardasın ve görüyorum ki pek mutlu değilsin. Gerçekten senin mutlu olmanı istiyorum. Herhangi bir şeye ihtiyacın olduğunda sana yardım etmeye hazır olduğumu  bilmeni istiyorum. Bu arada geçmiş olsun çünkü o gün pek iyi gözükmüyordun.   Did you translate this or a Turk? This is a really excellent translation. elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: Adding Endings to Foreign Words

742.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Nov 2013 Tue 06:36 pm I guess you should put the proper suffix acording to how you pronounce it. burakk liked this message

Thread: T to E PLEASEEE

743.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Nov 2013 Tue 01:04 pm   Quoting foka my try but wait for experts     Kız laftan anlamak istemiyordu.  We can translate it like this:  The girl didnt want to listen to what I said.   Edited (11/19/2013) by gokuyum aline12 liked this message

Thread: Practising as a doctor in Turkey

744.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Nov 2013 Sun 03:45 pm   Quoting ayseta Hey, I was just wondering how easy it is to practice as a doctor in Turkey these days? I´m a medical student in the UK and trying to learn Turkish at the moment so i have considered it. My father is Turkish so I´m not a complete foreigner... I´m asking based on the assumption that I am a fluent speaker, just having not qualified in Turkey.    I´ve read recently that there is a doctor shortage in Turkey and that they are recruiting doctors from Greece... but with the language barrier I don´t know whether these doctors are being given language training, or must speak Turkish already.    I have read that public hospitals are completely off-limits to foreign doctors but private hospitals aren´t. Yet Turkish people I know tell me that doctors are always in-demand in Turkey. So many conflicting views  http://www.medimagazin.com.tr/ana-sayfa/guncel/tr-yabanci-doktorlara-turkce-esnekligi-1-11-52527.html   According to what I read here you should get a document from YOK that shows your diploma is recognised and you should know Turkish to apply for a job. In one year time after you start working you must pass Turkish language exam with B degree. In the past they wanted B level Turkish immediately to apply for the job but now they give you one year time for it.   Here is told what to do to get a recognition for your diploma. But it is in Turkish and I cant find an English translation and some links dont work. You should apply using diploma recognation system but it says it is not working now because of a maintenance.   http://www.yok.gov.tr/web/guest/icerik/-/journal_content/56_INSTANCE_rEHF8BIsfYRx/10279/30208   Here is another page if you want to apply using manual application form : http://www.yok.gov.tr/web/guest/denklik-basvuru-sistemi   Edited (11/17/2013) by gokuyum Edited (11/17/2013) by gokuyum Edited (11/17/2013) by gokuyum Edited (11/17/2013) by gokuyum Edited (11/17/2013) by gokuyum Edited (11/17/2013) by gokuyum Edited (11/17/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: not easy to understand

745.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Nov 2013 Sun 03:35 pm B is my best answer

Thread: Time Reference of DIK

746.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Nov 2013 Fri 01:49 pm , Edited (11/15/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Time Reference of DIK

747.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Nov 2013 Fri 01:49 pm   Quoting Abla I have learned DIK is not too sensitive about the time it refers to. Anything but future goes.   What about a sentence like                    My son will have to set off on the journey right after he comes from school    ?   Somehow it hurts my ear to say okuldan geldikten sonra here because it is in the future.   Yeah it is in the future and you should still use -dik.

Thread: Kendisi vs. o

748.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Nov 2013 Fri 12:46 pm   Quoting Abla Kendisi iyi bir yüzücüdür, ayrıca güzel de tenis oynar.   In the above sentence kendisi is used almost like the personal pronoun o. I don´t know the context, though. What kind of a situation could motivate this choice? Is the speaker comparing this person to others, connecting the sentence to what has been said before or just stressing the third person actor here?   It sounds more polite to my ears. I cant think about any other reason now. ikicihan and tunci liked this message

Thread: Why do Turks Like Pakistan

749.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Nov 2013 Mon 10:10 am   Quoting hazzel Günaydın kashf-ul-eman. Isn´t this true, that the Türks will like anyone who will server to them? When swimming in shark waters, it´s best to leave or get eaten. My question to you is why are you swimming if your country´s leg is cut and the Türks smell blood? Are you high hazzel?     Edited (11/11/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Why do Turks Like Pakistan

750.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Nov 2013 Mon 01:27 am It is so nice to read this Kashf. Unfortunately like button doesnt appear under your post. And one another reason to love Pakistan for me is your great poet Muhammed İqbal. Some call him the second Rumi. I read his works and liked a lot. I liked them so much, I wanted to share them with people. SO I gave them to university library. I guess it is time to buy them again from a bookshop Edited (11/11/2013) by gokuyum kashf-ul-eman liked this message

Thread: Nasreddin pronunciation

751.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Nov 2013 Tue 02:11 am Nasreddin is also a Arabic noun clause. Nasr´ed-din. nasr means "help" in Arabic din means "religion"   Literally it means help of religion. But when I look for a translation I only found this one: helper of the religion. So instead of nasr it must be nasir. Nasir means helper in Arabic.       Edited (11/5/2013) by gokuyum Edited (11/5/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Bir gün öğretmenin hayatında...

752.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Nov 2013 Tue 01:43 am   Quoting Fiskje88 Bugün arkadaşımla Türkçe konuştum. Kolaydı, onu anladım! İşimden sonra ona telefon ettim, çünkü yemek yemek istedim. "Süpermarkete gitmek istiyor musun?" dedim. Maalesef, istemedi. "Dışarıya gitmem gerekmiyor," dedi. "Çorba ve ekmek var." Ama, bence sağlığımız için sebze lâzım. Çorbada az sebze var, yani başka bir şey yemek istedim. Bunu ona söyledim ve ondan sonra telefonumu kapattım. Evine geldiğimde, onu süpermarkete gitmek için ikna ettim. Orada sebze aldık, soğan ve havuç gibi. Sonunda "nasi" pişirdik. Çok lezizdi. Şimdi çok mutluyuz! Very good. What is this nasi? Some kind of meal?

Thread: nice to hear that

753.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Nov 2013 Tue 01:29 am   Quoting sufler Merhaba. If someone says a nice thing to me, I want to reply "nice to hear that"- I can only think of: Bunu duyduğumdan memnun oldum. But it´s so inconvenient and quite long- the person is indicated as much as two times:  Bunu duyduğumdan memnun oldum. - I am glad that I have heard that...   Is that possible to use a more general phrase, like: bunu duymak çok güzel or bunu duymaya sevindim, possibly bunu duymadan memnun oldum?   Bunu duyduğuma memnun oldum. (use dative) Here is my recomendation: "Bunu duymak güzel."

Thread: T-E please

754.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Nov 2013 Tue 01:26 am   Quoting Henry   my attempt Hayır çok az = No, very little ben inşaatta calışıyorum = I´m working in/on a construction My guess is that these are two separate sentences. Yeah I think so too.

Thread: So, well- at the beginning of a sentence

755.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Nov 2013 Sun 10:48 pm   Quoting sufler So şey is the only possibility in this example? ^ And how about this "so" I´ve just used unintentionally? Here also şey would make it?   We can translate so as "öyleyse".

Thread: So, well- at the beginning of a sentence

756.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Nov 2013 Sun 09:43 pm   Quoting sufler Merhaba. Which Turkish word can be applied in such situation: I just saw you wrote your friend a comment saying that you will do it together soon... So/well, when you are doing it together soon I want to go too   Şimdi bir arkadaşına yorumda bunu yakında birlikte yapacağız diye yazdığını okudum... Ya(?) yakında bunu birlikte yapacaksanız ben de gitmek istiyorum   Is that correct?   You can say "şey". Şey, ben de gelmek istiyorum. Well I want to come too sufler liked this message

Thread: Enumeration

757.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Nov 2013 Sat 07:44 pm En temelleri lise, teknik lise,....... Edited (11/2/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Osmanlı, Osman names origin

758.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Oct 2013 Wed 12:38 am   Quoting sufler So, finally the name Osman came from the third caliph name- Uthman?   Yep. But it is not a name of a tribe.

Thread: to sit down

759.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Oct 2013 Tue 08:13 pm   Quoting sufler So then, how do you say that?   You say it same way. "Oturmak" can express a state or an action sufler liked this message

Thread: Telling my hometown: -li vs -den

760.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Oct 2013 Tue 07:29 pm   Quoting Abla     LI does not take the apostrophe does it? Or is it different with foreign place names?   No apostrophe ever.

Thread: to sit down

761.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Oct 2013 Tue 07:28 pm   Quoting sufler Merhaba, The dictionary I looked in defines "to sit down" as "oturmak", but this one means just "to sit" as well. So if I say "oturuyorum" that would mean I´m just sitting in place and not moving. So, is it possible to say "I´m sitting down" to emphasize that I´m moving down to my seat at the moment of speaking, but I´m not sitting yet?   Yep.

Thread: Osmanlı, Osman names origin

762.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Oct 2013 Tue 06:41 pm   Quoting sufler Merhaba. I have always been convinced that the word osmanlı and Ottoman sultans names starting with Osman have the same origin and that is from Arabic language and from the Muslim cultural field in general. I don´t know any Arabic word which sounds like this, but perhaps my idea came from the fact that the third of the Rashidun caliphs, Prophet´s companion- Uthman is also sometimes referred to as "Osman" when his name is oficially written in Arabic alphabet as عثمان - so is the name of the first sultan of the Ottoman Empire - Osman I (Gazi). Surprisingly, today in a university class of Turkish early history I was told that the "Osmanlı İmparatorluğı" was named after one of the Turkish tribes originating from the Seljuq Turks. So finally, what is the connection between the word "Osman(lı )" in Turkish history and the caliph Osman who didn´t have much to do with Turks after all? Did one of them take the name after another or is it just a conincidence?   There is no such a tribe whose name is Osman or Osmanlı. Ottoman Empire was named after the founder and the first sultan Osman as you say. It is known that Ottoman family is a member of "Karakeçeli" branch of "Kayı" tribe.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kay%C4%B1_tribe Edited (10/29/2013) by gokuyum Edited (10/29/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: ama at the end of a sentence

763.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Oct 2013 Tue 12:00 am   Quoting sufler Merhaba, how do you translate such a short phrase: nasıl olmuş ama.? Does it make sense at all? With "ama" at the end? Or is it just an incomplete expression? "ama" has a different function here.It is "exclamation" when it is end of the sentence.

Thread: Kurds and hate crimes (and others like Armenians, Sirbians, Greeks etc)

764.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Oct 2013 Mon 06:17 pm   Quoting Kelowna     I guess you will be part of that group also   You shouldn´t fight fire with fire, you should use water to fight fire. First you can´t fight racism by screaming racism. People who are constantly screaming the racism card for every issue thinking they are some sort of righteous  intellectual, might want to rethink their actions. Sometimes "racism " isn´t the right word to describe a persons behaviour. When you scream racism , first and foremost you put your opponent on the defensive. Secondly if you continue to use for every rant it gets a little boring and redundant. You are basically trying to sterotype everyones behaviour under one word and that is incorrect. What is basically happening here is you are over using the word constantly to the point that  the word has lost its currency when you scream it and just becomes an annoyance showing you are overreacting in these situations and can not actually bring any value to the table. I don´t understand how someone can post so many tacky sexual inuendos ( which they think are seemingly harmless and funny in the off topic colums and at the same time scream racism on all other issues. ) I think he shows his own form of racism against females in the off topic colums and when I read them I scream you racist pig you show you are a woman demoralizing hating freak! You need to rethink how you think! If someone took the time to look at all your posts, they would understand that your  thoughts and ideas are miscontrued.  The End     K.O. Great answer. Edited (10/28/2013) by gokuyum Edited (10/28/2013) by gokuyum Edited (10/28/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: birde

765.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Oct 2013 Mon 05:17 pm   Quoting elenagabriela how can I translate "birde" from sentence   Birde martıların kanatlarından seyretmek İstanbulu   şimdiden teşekkürler   bir de must be written seperately.

Thread: Emergency! translate!

766.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Oct 2013 Mon 05:16 pm I hope one day inshallah will forget Turkish Edited (10/28/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: -de bulunmak meaning ´to use/to say´?

767.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Oct 2013 Sun 03:38 am   Quoting sufler Merhaba, I found such a sentence in an online newspaper: ...saldırganların küfür ve ırkçı hakaretlerde bulunarak “Kebabistan” adlı restorana saldırdığı belirtildi.  literally I should translate the part marked in red saying that "the attackers were found in racist invectives", but I suppose the real sense is that they "used racist invectives" or "said racist invectives". So, my question is - can the construction ´-de bulunmak´ be used with other nouns in the meaning of "use/say" or is it only connected with "hakaretler" as a fixed phrase?    Can I say for example: övgülerde bulundu as "he said compliments"/"he praised"?   #edit perhaps "to express" is a better translation?   You can use it with other nouns and your example is correct.

Thread: Misunderstanding which concerns the Sunnah

768.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Oct 2013 Sat 10:15 pm I hope you understand now. Edited (10/26/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Misunderstanding which concerns the Sunnah

769.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Oct 2013 Sat 10:10 pm   Quoting sufler Oh, I see my mistake. I referred to Sunnah as book, because I realize it must have been written somehow, but that´s true.. probably the storage of Sunnah consist of more than one book   So, my friend´s question: "sünnet ne demek?" should not be translated as "what is sünnet?because I don´t know" BUT more like "what do you mean by sünnet?" is that right?   So, now as for translation of my friend´s last message: "sünnet ayrıca bi durum için kullanılır o durumda Hz Muhammed in yaptığı bir şeydir ama ondan belki biraz korkabilir insanlar"   Now, after you cleared out my mind I understand it as: "Sünnet is also used for a situation(?) In this case it is something that Great Muhammad did but it is a thing that some people are afraid of." Is that correct?   That situation is circumcision. He tries to say circumcision is sunnah too. But some people are afraid of it.   Edited (10/26/2013) by gokuyum Edited (10/26/2013) by gokuyum Edited (10/26/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Misunderstanding which concerns the Sunnah

770.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Oct 2013 Sat 09:44 pm Sünnet(sunnah) has two meanings in Turkish   1.Sunnah is the way of life prescribed as normative for Muslims on the basis of the teachings and practices of Islamic prophet Muhammad and interpretations of the Quran (from Wikipedia) 2.circumcision   It is not a book as you see. It is a term. I guess he/she thought that you were talking about circumcision. Edited (10/26/2013) by gokuyum Edited (10/26/2013) by gokuyum Edited (10/26/2013) by gokuyum Edited (10/26/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Class Meeting =)

771.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Oct 2013 Sat 07:19 pm   Quoting scalpel - -     Bana uyar.. davetliysem tabii   Take your invitation then: Abla liked this message

Thread: It depends...

772.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Oct 2013 Thu 11:41 am   Quoting kvirzi I was told I could simply use değişir, so I have been using that and everyone seems to understand.   "Duruma göre değişir" means it depends on the situation. When you use only "değişir" people understand what you mean. tomac liked this message

Thread: One sentence from T to E pls :-)

773.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Oct 2013 Thu 10:30 am   Quoting SweetyKiz What does following sentence mean ?   "Söyle olacagina varsin"   Say it and let it come to an end.

Thread: Please translate to Turkish if possible :)))

774.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Oct 2013 Mon 09:06 pm   Quoting nazarnazar Could anyone possibly translate this please ?       Does anyone have the number of Edip Uzun?I want to use his taxi service. I have a flight to Adana and would like Edip Amca to collect me from the airport. If anyone has his number please send it to my inbox. Thanks It was almost impossible to translate this text because it was so complicated but with great efforts I managed to translate it   Edip Uzun´un telefon numarası olan var mı? Onun taksi servisini kullanmak istiyorum. Adana´ya uçuşum var ve Edip Amca´nın beni havalimanından almasını istiyorum. Onun numarası olan varsa lütfen mail göndersin. Teşekkürler.   Alizeh liked this message

Thread: Class Meeting =)

775.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Oct 2013 Mon 08:58 pm We can meet in Amisos cafe in Samsun

Thread: KARAGÖZ HACİVAT

776.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Oct 2013 Mon 05:14 am How about Karagöz and Hacivat opera play?

Thread: how do i say this in turkish pls?

777.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Oct 2013 Tue 12:59 am   Quoting nessah Winter is the time for comfort, for good food and warmth, for the touch of a friendly hand and for a talk beside the fire     Kış komforun, iyi yemek ve sıcaklığın, dost bir elin dokunuşunun, ateşin yanında bir sohbetin zamanıdır.

Thread: Reform package/more freedom but not enough

778.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Oct 2013 Tue 12:53 am Not enough but yes Old habits die hard

Thread: Tuncel Kurtiz dies at 77

779.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Sep 2013 Sun 12:28 am He had a great voice.

Thread: Degradation in meaning

780.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Sep 2013 Sun 12:24 am Welcome my two eyes Now explain what this means to foreigners tunci liked this message

Thread: Turkish poem translation help

781.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Sep 2013 Wed 05:09 pm   Quoting Abla     My Try:   The age of is thirty five! That makes halfway. We are in the middle of our lives like Dante. The ability we had in our youth -  it is useless to beg or plead now  - goes away regardless of tears. Is it snow that has dropped on my temples, what is going on?

Thread: please can help from english to turkish thanks

782.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Sep 2013 Tue 12:26 am   Quoting sammy2013 My life is real painful,feels  like i have no more faith in my heart and life. My parents are so angry with me,for letting someone convince me to have another baby with him. Life is sad because how my parents feel and how i made them sad and disapointed them as their daughter,making them belive a religious marriage in islam is okay and having children.Pray for me please so that my family and I will be okay  again and they be able to take care of me and my children.   Hayatım gerçekten çok acı verici. Artık kalbimde ve hayatımda hiç inanç kalmadı. Ailem bana birisinin beni ikna edip ondan bir tane daha bebek sahibi olduğum için çok kızgın. Kızları olarak aileme hissettirdiklerim, onları üzüp hayal kırıklığına uğrattığım, İslami bir dini nikahın ve çocuk sahibi olmanın doğru olduğuna onları inandırdığım için için hayat çok acıklı. Benim için dua edin. İnşallah ailemle aram düzelir ve onlar bana ve çocuklarıma bakarlar.     thank you  translator.Hope someone can help with this mail..be greatfull. greetings I want to warn foreigners. İslamic marriage is not recognised by laws in Turkey. We do it after the legal marriage. So dont let anyone deceive you.    Edited (9/24/2013) by gokuyum Edited (9/24/2013) by gokuyum sammy2013 and Elisabeth liked this message

Thread: Eng --> Turkish Please

783.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Sep 2013 Tue 12:17 am   Quoting Cehe The man who means the world to me.   Benim için dünyalar ifade eden adam. (We like exaggrating more than you)

Thread: Is there anything you wish from me?

784.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Sep 2013 Tue 12:13 am   Quoting Abla It is a sort of good bye:                              Var mı bir isteğin?   And I guess the standard answer is                              Canının sağlığı.   But is it the only alternative? Can you answer it in other, more creative ways?   Yep you can say "Kurabiye istiyorum"

Thread: You have a murderer in your tribe!

785.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Sep 2013 Tue 12:12 am Are you all still in the same circle? Edited (9/24/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Needing help with corrections from english to turkish

786.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Sep 2013 Tue 12:11 am   Quoting honeycheerios Now I am starting to miss you. Where are you? - Artık seni özlemeye başladim. Neredesin?   I do not know very much turkish so I have only made a beginners attepmt!   Good attempt.

Thread: E to T - Past Possessive

787.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Sep 2013 Thu 02:59 pm   Quoting denizli I was wondering how to do past possessive?   Please help with these:   How was your trip? This was my house. Sam was your friend.   There is no such thing as past possesive. There is possesive and past tense. Aisha_Bilqis liked this message

Thread: Istanbul in motion

788.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Sep 2013 Sun 09:03 pm My brain resembles İstanbul a lot. Too many historical places and too much traffic Edited (9/15/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: what does this means pls?

789.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Sep 2013 Sun 08:59 pm   Quoting elenagabriela     years later you will wake up one night; you will remember me, there will be another one sleeping near you; you will wake up, smoke a ciggarette, you will think and cry; after that, as nothing else was happened you will return to your bed, and you will sleep with tears, embracing him like mine....(as you used to embrace me..) At least Romanians score in Turkish grammar unlike national matches   etena, TheNemanja and elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: Posts not showing

790.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Sep 2013 Sun 08:54 pm   Quoting Aisha_Bilqis   Hello,   I am not sure what is happening but I´ve been encountering problems for two days now. When I post something I can´t see it back, which led me to post several times the same post because I presumed that they got "cleared" somehow and one somebody´s posts appear in "news in the forum" and I try to open the correspondent thread, that person´s posts either won´t show.   Is someone else having this problem? And what might be causing it?   Thanks       Change the internet browser you use. I use google chrome and I havent encountered such a problem yet.

Thread: "olmak" as a Copula?

791.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Sep 2013 Sun 08:52 pm   Quoting Abla Do you mean Her zaman çok iyiydin does not have the meaning ´you are still good´? I have understood (I)DI attached to nominals never denotes perfective action (i.e. action finished and done with).   If you want to ask ´how was your mother last time you met her´ what would be the most adequate translation? He wants to say it can give present perfect tense meaning. Action is still going on.   Translation: Annenle son görüştüğünde nasıldı?

Thread: Sever vs. Seviyor

792.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Sep 2013 Fri 04:39 pm   Quoting Brandon74 I aplogize if this has been asked before.  I searched the website, but didn´t find the answer.  What is the difference between sever and seviyor? For example, are both correct?  Do they mean the same thing? Müzik sever misiniz? Müzik seviyor misiniz   seviyor musunuz? (study wovel harmony)     They are same. Edited (9/15/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: PRIVATE MESSAGES NOT PRIVATE

793.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Sep 2013 Mon 09:50 pm   Quoting Efi70     Υοu know that you are one of the few people I talk with in here....ofcourse I like you too Thnak you dear. You color my life

Thread: PRIVATE MESSAGES NOT PRIVATE

794.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Sep 2013 Mon 09:40 pm   Quoting Efi70     Μaybe I have,maybe not. But that doesn´t mean Iam ignorant...everything and everyone is under control not only here but everywhere....I have nothing to hide,so I don´t care That is the spirit. That is why I like you

Thread: e-t pease

795.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Sep 2013 Mon 09:39 pm   Quoting elena1987  little baby Akcay´s heart beat in vedeo   Vidyoda küçük bebek Akçay´ın kalbi atıyor.

Thread: PRIVATE MESSAGES NOT PRIVATE

796.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Sep 2013 Mon 09:32 pm   Quoting Efi70 Ιf you really believe that all the pm´s are secret, then you live in another planet   You are so cool with it. Dont you have some colorful pms?

Thread: PRIVATE MESSAGES NOT PRIVATE

797.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Sep 2013 Mon 09:31 pm   Quoting Gölge     They are visible for admins (and their buddies of course) even after deletion.   Then I guess they will enjoy a lot Efi70 liked this message

Thread: new group for happy endings with turkish men :)

798.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Sep 2013 Mon 09:25 pm   Quoting elenagabriela I think that is not about turkish men..it can be for every man/ woman around the world..love is first of all physical atraction more of emotional or communication skills....there are, still, an animal inside of human beings...   There is one animal driven man here. Hunt him Edited (9/9/2013) by gokuyum elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: PRIVATE MESSAGES NOT PRIVATE

799.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Sep 2013 Mon 09:23 pm   Quoting Kelowna     now for sure they will read them  hahaha   I deleted them all but I guess the new ones will still continue to be colorful

Thread: e-t pease

800.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Sep 2013 Mon 09:16 pm   Quoting elena1987  little baby Akcay´s heart beat in vedeo   What is vedeo? If it is video I still dont understand the sentence. Can you explain? Edited (9/9/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: PRIVATE MESSAGES NOT PRIVATE

801.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Sep 2013 Mon 09:06 pm   Quoting Kelowna     my concern is not about whether they are boring but the fact that I don´t recall it being disclosed at any time that administration could read your pm´s . also what about private chat´s in the chat room are they also monitored? I dont want to believe my colorful pms are read by admin   hummayun ali liked this message

Thread: What is the best turkish names ?

802.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Sep 2013 Fri 08:10 pm Yusuf

Thread: Love letter translation

803.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Sep 2013 Thu 04:56 am   Quoting luke.duffman     Seni Seviyorum, Hayatim. Rüyalarımın kadınısın and my dreams have come true (ve rüyalarım gerçeğe döndü.   Benimle evlenir misin?   This part is enough for your purpose. No need to wait for a full translation. Dont lose time and go for it. Life is too short. Henry, TheNemanja, JulianaJuliana and elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: english to turkish

804.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Sep 2013 Thu 04:54 am   Quoting tomac My attempt as learner:   I want to tell you my life  Sana hayatımı anlatmak   and listen to your all stories ve bütün hikâyelerini dinlemek istiyorum.   Possible answer: I dont want to listen or tell anything. elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: Syria´s darkest day?chemical weapons?

805.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Sep 2013 Thu 04:52 am I piss further than all of you.

Thread: E2T pls

806.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Sep 2013 Thu 04:50 am Dont force yourself a lot Gölge. Take a rest. You started to lose your mind

Thread: tr-eng

807.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Sep 2013 Thu 04:49 am   Quoting ulak Aşk kişinin sevdiğinde yok olmasıdır.   thank you . Love is tthe disappearing of one in his/her beloved.

Thread: Translation of Turkish songs into English

808.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Aug 2013 Sat 10:37 pm   Quoting kreona Merhaba! I´ve started to listen to Turkish songs and like to sing them understanding the lyrics. Also enjoy translating them into English and my native Ukrainian. Now I need help with some phrases from the song "Tamiri Mümkün Kalbinin" by Mor ve Ötesi, namely: "Kırılmışız bir yerde tamiri mümkün kalbinin Fark etmeden isteyince gerçekleşir hayallerin" AND "Vazgeçtim hediyenden, bir mum yansın biz bilelim"   I would appreciate your help very much, çok teşekkürler!   PS I have already got a version for the first two rows from FLoverman and it seems very good: "we were broken somewhere in your heart which can be repaired, dreams come true when you demand to not notice." Others? I listened to song now. Here is my translation:   "Kırılmışız bir yerde tamiri mümkün kalbinin We are broken somewhere, it is possible to repair your heart Fark etmeden isteyince gerçekleşir hayallerin" Your dreams come true if you want without noticing   "Vazgeçtim hediyenden, bir mum yansın biz bilelim" Aside your gift, at least let a candle light let us know.   Edited (8/31/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: t-e

809.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Aug 2013 Fri 11:20 pm   Quoting strix55 Beni bi yerden çıkartmak zorunda değilsin.faceden sürekli eklemezsen,kafanda böyle sorularla boğuşmazsın.   You dont have to remove/delete me always. If you dont add (me) always on facebook, you will not deal with this kind of problems. nessah liked this message

Thread: Can Yucel - Gitmek - Help please

810.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Aug 2013 Fri 11:11 pm   Quoting Abla My Try:     Bu günlerde herkes gitmek istiyor Küçük bir sahil kasabasına Bir başka ülkeye, dağlara, uzaklara...     Everyone wants to go these days  - to a small coastal town, to another country, to the mountains, far away. *************   Hayatından memnun olan yok. Kiminle konuşsam ayni şey... Herşeyi, herkesi bırakıp gitme isteği.   There is no one who is happy with his life. No matter who I talk to it is the same… what I always find is the wish to leave everything and everyone and go.   ***************   Öyle "yanına almak istediği üç şey" falan yok. Bir kendisi Bu yeter zaten. Herşeyi, herkesi götürdün demektir.. Keske kendini bırakıp gidebilse insan. Ama olmuyor.   There is no such thing as ”the three things one wants to take along”. You only wants to take yourself, that is enough. It means you have left behind taken everything and everyone. If only a human being could go and leave himself behind but it is impossible.     **************** Hani kendimizden razıyız diyelim, öteki de olmuyor. Yani herşeyi yüzüstü bırakmak göze alınmıyor.   Well let’s say we comply with ourselves, there is no other choice, that is to say we do not take the risk of abandoning everything.     *****************   Böyle gidiyoruz işte. Bir yanımız "kalk gidelim", öbür yanimiz "otur" diyor. "Otur" diyen kazaniyor. O yan kalabalık zira... iş, Güç, sorumluluk, çoluk çocuk, aile, Güvende olma duygusu... En kötüsü alışkanlık Alışkanlığın verdiği rahatlık, Monotonluğun doğurduğu bıkkınlığı yeniyor. Kalıyoruz... Kuş olup uçmak isterken, ağaç olup kök salıyoruz.   That is how we are going: one part of us says “go for it and leave” while the other part says “stay”. The one that says “stay” wins. That is because that side is crowded busy… work, power, responsibility, wife and kids, family, the feeling of being safe. The worst thing is routine, the ease that routine gives, it surmounts the boredom of the squirrel cage.(?) It beats the boredom which monotony gave birth. We stay. While hoping to fly like a bird we root in the ground like a tree.   ************** Evlenmeler... Bir çocuk daha doğurmalar... Borçlara girmeler... işi büyütmeler... Bir köpek bile bizi uçmaktan alıkoyabiliyor.   Marriages, another child being born, debts, growing businesses, even a dog can withhold us from flying.   ***************   Misal ben... Me for instance…   *****************       Kapıdaki Rex´i bırakıp gidemiyorum. Değil bu_şehirden gitmek, iki sokak öteye taşınamıyorum. Alıp götürsem gelmez ki... Bütün sokağım köpeğim olduğunun farkında Herkes onu o herkesi seviyor. Hangi birimizle gitsin?     I cannot go and leave Rex at the door.   Let alone going away from this town  -   I cannot even move two blocks away.   If I took him away he would not come.   The whole street has noticed I have a dog,   everyone loves him, he loves everyone.   Which one of us should he go with?         ***************** "Sirtinda yumurta küfesi olmak" diye bir deyim vardir; Evet, sirtimizda yumurta küfesi var hepimizin Kendi imalatimiz küfeler.     There is a saying that one has a basket of eggs on his back.   Yes, we all have a basket of eggs on our backs  -   a basket we have made for ourselves.   *******************   Ama eğreti de yaşanmaz ki bu dünyada. Ölüm var zira. Ölüme inat tutunmak lazim.   But one cannot live for the time being either   because death exists.   One must hold on just to stand against death.     **************   Barik ufak kaçışlar yapabilsek. Var tabi yapanlar, ama az Sadece kaymak tabakası Hepimiz kaçabilsek... Bütçe, zaman, keyif... Denk olsa. Gün içinde mesela... Küçücük gitmeler yapabilsek.     I wish we could make tiny getaways.   Some people do of course, but they are few,   only a few privileged people.   I wish we could all escape.   Budget, time, pleasure…if only there was a balance.   If we only could make small passages   within a day for instance.     ******************   Ne mümkün Sabah 9, aksam 18 Sonra baska mecburiyetler Sıkışıp kaldık. Sırf yeme, içme, barınmanın bedeli Bu kadar ağır olmamali.     What can we do: It is not possible   from 9 o’clock in the morning till 6 o’clock in the evening.   After that other duties.   We are jammed.   It just cannot be this expensive   to eat, to drink and to take a shelter.     ***************** Hayatta kalabilmek için bir ömür veriyoruz. Bir ömür karşılığı, bir ömür yani. Ne saçma... Bahar midir bizi bu hale getiren? Galiba.     We spend a lifetime trying to stay alive,   that means paying a lifetime for a lifetime.   What a load of rubbish!   Is it spring that makes us this way?   Maybe so.     **************   Ben her bahar aşık olmam ama Her bahar gitmek isterim. Gittigim olmadi hiç. Ama olsun... istemek de güzel.     I don’t fall in love every spring   but every spring I want to go.   That never happened   but never mind…it is nice to want it also.   Very good translation. I made a few corrections. And it is good that you translated it under the original text.   Edited (8/30/2013) by gokuyum judi96 liked this message

Thread: E-T please

811.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Aug 2013 Fri 10:56 pm   Quoting hummayun ali     hehe there must be a typing mistake ...   i need to ask you a question ,, as she is reading me book it wud b o benim kitabimi okuyor and i am reading her book wud be ben onun kitabini okuyorum right ... how to make it a question is she reading me book ,, o kitabimi okuyor mu? ,, or are you reading me book? sen kitabimi okuyorsun mu? or okuyor musun?? plz correct it kindly Do you mean "to read me book" or to "to read my book"? Because there is a difference: Do you read me book? Bana kitap okuyor musun? Do you read my book? Benim kitabımı okuyor musun?   hummayun ali liked this message

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812.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Aug 2013 Fri 08:27 pm Goykum? Who is he? hummayun ali liked this message

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813.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Aug 2013 Fri 08:25 pm   Quoting nessah     but what do u mean by "come to this site"?   He he he. Sorry. You caught me again. It is "this side"   Edited (8/30/2013) by gokuyum hummayun ali liked this message

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814.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Aug 2013 Fri 08:23 pm   Quoting nessah Tatile gidersin git kafani dinleyin bir iki haftA    "gidersin" here second person singular (sen) is adressed "git" here second person singular (sen) is adressed too "kafanı" here second person singular(senin) is adressed dinleyin here second person plural (siz) is adressed.   And I ask why? This is an incoherence. When I saw this sentence I decided not to translate it and the other sentences. I didnt want to spend time trying to understand what he meant. I am not an oracle.     Edited (8/30/2013) by gokuyum Edited (8/30/2013) by gokuyum

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815.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Aug 2013 Fri 08:16 pm   Quoting nessah   thanks sweety     You are welcome. Did you like it?   nessah liked this message

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816.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Aug 2013 Fri 08:14 pm   Quoting Kelowna     goku you are slowing down I am an old man   hummayun ali and TheNemanja liked this message

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817.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Aug 2013 Fri 08:12 pm   Quoting nessah " Orada erkekler var, sen bu tarafa geç " diyen erkek, sen benim canımsın. Alır kaçarım seni.   The man who says "There are men over there, come to this side". You are my dear. I will take you and run away. Edited (8/30/2013) by gokuyum nessah liked this message

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818.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Aug 2013 Fri 01:47 pm This doesnt make a lot of sense without the rest of the text.

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819.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Aug 2013 Thu 02:39 pm I hate months. I still dont know half of them tomac liked this message

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820.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Aug 2013 Thu 02:38 pm   Quoting jolanaze Could anyone help me please to translate this:I would like to come in October. Is it convenient to you?Many thanks (I do not know this polite way....).   Ekim´de gelmek istiyorum. Senin için uygun mu? Çok teşekkürler. jolanaze liked this message

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821.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Aug 2013 Wed 10:48 pm   Quoting nessah       Deli bir sevdadayım yanıyorum  I am a crazy love I am burning. Gururum yerlerde ağlıyorum My pride is hurt I am crying Yangınım sönmedi fırtınam dinmedi My fire hasnt died down, my storm hasnt ceased Ağlamak hasreti dindirmedi Crying hasnt eased the longing Yangınım sönmedi fırtınam dinmedi.My fire hasnt died down, my storm hasnt ceased.. Aglamak seni getirmedi Crying hasnt brought you İtiraf ediyorum seni senden istiyorum I confess I want you from you Alev alev duman duman icin icin yanıyorum With flames with smoke I am burning Çaresizim zaman zaman gözlerini arıyorum I am desperate I look for your eyes time to time Biten bir aşk icin böyle acı çekilmez For an ended love it cant be suffered like this. Giden sevgiliden artık vefa beklenmez It cant be expected loyalty after a gone beloved Bir gün gücüm biter de isyan edersem One day if I lose my power and I rebel Beni o isyankar sevdalara gömün Bury me into those rebelious loves.

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822.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Aug 2013 Wed 10:39 pm   Quoting nessah Bizim hayatımız da hep üç şeyimiz olmuştur Biri acılarımız ki canı yanan her canlının sızısıdır Biri gözyaşlarımız ki bin yıllardır yanağımızda yol almıştır Diğeri de umutlarımız her sabah güneşle yüreğimizi yıkayan...   We always have three things in our lives. One is our pains Which are the aches of every living creature. One is our tears which have taken a long way on our cheeks for thousands years. Other is our hopes which wash our hearts with sun every morning.

Thread: recommended turkish films

823.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Aug 2013 Tue 09:56 pm Here lots of Turkish movies with English subtitles: http://www.altyazidunyasi.com/   Please feel free to thank me

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824.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Aug 2013 Mon 12:51 am   Quoting PastaYedi Hello  I´m working on some linguistic research on turkish sentence structure. I need your help... (since I´m not a native speaker of Turkish...) If some of you who are native turkish speakers can answer my questions, I would be super thankful... My question is: Can you say - Para Ali çok buldu (arkadaş değil) (Indended meaning: Ali found coins/money a lot (not friends).) or Ödev Ali çok bitirdi (çamaşır değil) (Indended meaning: Ali finished homework/papers a lot (not laundry).)   Can you say sentences like that? Sounds fine or bad?  and words in boldface should be articulated more strongly than other words, so that those words should be a topic of the sentence.   Forgive my horrible Turkish!  but I would really appreciate if some of you could kindly help me with this! Thank uuuu!!!         No you cant say eighter of them. They are both wrong. Edited (8/26/2013) by gokuyum

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825.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Aug 2013 Sun 08:23 pm   Quoting nessah     thanks.       always dear

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826.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Aug 2013 Sun 08:18 pm   Quoting nessah saolasin vanessa sen nasilsin kurban iyisin insallah sagligin iyidir umarim keyfin nasil vanessa sen cok iyisin seni görmek arzumdur ömer ile görüsüyorsun umarim saglikli kalasin ona göre we selam insaallah bir gün sizin oraya gelip senin misafirirn olurum ok bella Omer bir hafta 10 gune cikiyor konusuyorsun onlan insallah       Than you vanessa. How are you. I hope you are fine. and you are healthy. How is your mood? Vanessa you are very good. I want to see you. I hope you talk to Ömer. Be healty and greetings. I hope one day I will come there and be your guest. Ok bella. Ömer is going out in a week or in 10 dayshope you talk to him.

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827.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Aug 2013 Sun 10:43 am   Quoting trip Merhaba! I am back with a dumb question, so please bear with me. As I understand consonant harmony, if a word ends in a hard consonant and you add "-de" or "-den" (or one of their variants), they become "-te" or "-ten." In a writing execise, I said: "Bazen yoğurtta meyve koyarım." I realize this sentence probably has other problems, but I was told that I should have said "yoğurda." I admit that "yoğurtta" looked funny to me, but can someone explain why the "t" changes to a "d," please? I obviously have misunderstood a lesson somewhere along the way. ... Teşekkür ederim!     You should know these: 1. If a word ends with f, s, t, k, ç, ş, h, p has a suffix starts with c, d, g these c, d, g harden and become ç, t, k.  2. If a word ends with p, ç, t, k has a suffix starts with a vowel these p, ç, t, k soften and become b, c, d, ğ.

Thread: ler + di

828.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Aug 2013 Sun 12:17 am   Quoting Gölge Well my professor is seen as a big genius, so you can always contact him on youtube and let him know he is wrong I am not saying it. There is a saying in Turkish " who knows a lot is also mistaken a lot"

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829.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Aug 2013 Sun 12:12 am   Quoting Gölge Well I am doing it his way on my exam   I would certainly fail you

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830.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Aug 2013 Sat 11:43 pm   Quoting Gölge Ohhhh Allaha şükkür, my faith in my professor is restored! Thaaank you   Come on it is still a mistake

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831.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Aug 2013 Sat 11:18 pm   Quoting burakk     actually both works   Past Progressive, narrative ben   geliyordum sen   geliyordun o     geliyordu biz   geliyorduk siz   geliyordunuz onlar geliyordular; geliyorlardı     Örnek: Bir güzelin hayranı i-di-m>hayranıydım, hayranı idik>hayranıydık Zeki idi>zekiydi Ali imiş>Ali’ymiş, Hasta ise>hastaysa, Nöbetçi iken>nöbetçiyken, Merhametli imişler>merhametliymişler Merhametliler imiş>merhametlilermiş   Yeah it looks like both of them work but why only for third person plural? Only a misuse of suffix can explain it. This misuse became common in time I guess. Edited (8/24/2013) by gokuyum

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832.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Aug 2013 Sat 11:01 pm   Quoting Gölge Oh I guess my professor is wrong because I have in my notes right in front of me ´geliyorlardı´. That ler/lar exceptionally comes before ´dı´ here because it´s an imek-form, a ´help-tense´ :-/   But thank you!! Yes it is past of i-mek form. But there is no such a rule ler must come before it. At least I havent heart such a rule. Also you can look at the link I gave you for verb conjugations. It is like I said there too.

Thread: when to use -den beri ve -dir?

833.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Aug 2013 Sat 10:50 pm   Quoting GulBahar Honestly I wanted to do so, but I don´t know whow I forgot Anyway thank you...Still my question is that in some cases we can use both -dir and -den beri, can´t we?   Think "dir" as "for" and "den beri" as "since". Most of the time you can use "den beri" instead of "dir" Edited (8/24/2013) by gokuyum Aisha_Bilqis liked this message

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834.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Aug 2013 Sat 10:46 pm ler/lar is a personal ending here (for third person plural) So it must be always at the end.  geliyordular Also look at here: http://www.verbix.com/webverbix/go.php?D1=31&T1=gelmek hummayun ali liked this message

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835.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Aug 2013 Sat 10:18 pm   Quoting Inscrutable Moladan bir dakika geç geldim. I was 1 minute late from my break ( a reference to a work break) Thank you Moladan bir dakika sonra geldim.   Inscrutable liked this message

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836.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Aug 2013 Sat 10:17 pm   Quoting Inscrutable Yemeğe havasında değilim. I´m not in the mood to eat. Thank you   Yemek yemek havasında değilim.

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837.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Aug 2013 Sat 10:10 pm Has any foreigners heard the word "dırdır". I always remember this word when I read something about -dır suffix Edited (9/15/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Getting out of Izmir

838.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Aug 2013 Sat 09:58 pm   Quoting Henry Some suggestions of places to visit for a day or two (that I have enjoyed with my wife)  .... for historical tourist destinations, Bergama (North) for the ruins of Pergamum Bodrum (South) for the castle of St Peter Denizli (East) for the ruins of Heiropolis (and also Pamukkale) Selçuk (South) for the ruins of Ephesus If you like picturesque coastal towns Ayvalık (North) Çeşme and Alaçati (West) Samsun(North) for Gokuyum Now it is better.   emjay and Henry liked this message

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839.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Aug 2013 Sat 09:54 pm One woman against whole forum. Pretty interesting. So you can guess whose side I am on

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840.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Aug 2013 Fri 08:57 pm Great nemanja. You are not only a student now, you are also a teacher Alizeh and TheNemanja liked this message

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841.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Aug 2013 Fri 08:55 pm Who needs old members when I am still here

Thread: Patatesli Yumusacik Recipe - need help to finish it

842.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Aug 2013 Fri 08:50 pm My high blood sugar prevents me eating pastaries. It sucks.

Thread: V.I

843.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Aug 2013 Fri 09:35 am ."Sans donanimli olanin yanindadir" Luck is with someone equipped. Edited (8/23/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: SENDING MAIL TO TURKEY

844.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Aug 2013 Wed 11:44 am   Quoting emjay     Hello guys before that, how should I write these to my friend?  5) I am going to send a mail to you in Turkey Sana Türkiye´ye bir posta gönderiyorum. 6) Let me know when you have received it Alınca bana haber ver.   Teşekkür ederim!!

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845.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Aug 2013 Wed 03:01 am I guess you want to open a new page

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846.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Aug 2013 Wed 02:58 am An empty memory? TheNemanja liked this message

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847.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Aug 2013 Tue 08:47 pm   Quoting HaNNo     TC is boring without you...   Nice to hear that

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848.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Aug 2013 Tue 08:28 pm   Quoting HaNNo     you are always here   I can go if you want

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849.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Aug 2013 Tue 07:44 pm I am still here stumpy liked this message

Thread: turkish - english

850.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Aug 2013 Tue 12:39 am   Quoting Kelowna     thank you and now is it still it or he/she   It depends on context. But I think it is it. Translation is sometimes like solving a puzzle.  Kelowna liked this message

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851.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Aug 2013 Tue 12:35 am   Quoting Kelowna     no because cikti means appear yok nerden cikti simdi o no  where now she/he appeared where did you get the word from     Nere-den den is from.   Kelowna and TheNemanja liked this message

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852.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Aug 2013 Tue 12:31 am   Quoting Kelowna     exactly and where did you get the word come from it seems to be missing too çıkmak here means somethin like that. Maybe I should have translated it like this From where it popped out now? Does this make more sense?

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853.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Aug 2013 Tue 12:27 am   Quoting Kelowna where did you get  it from   I got he/she O mean he/she/it in Turkish

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854.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Aug 2013 Tue 12:22 am   Quoting deli_kiz30 hi please can someone help me with this turkish translation please?   yok nerden cikti simdi o   thanks No. From where did it come up now ?

Thread: A Turkish Movie Lost

855.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Aug 2013 Mon 11:35 pm   Quoting Kelowna     I don´t know if I should agree but when I watched  Baska Dilde Ask I longed for a boyfriend like this. I thought he was not only cute but perfect because I did not have to listen to his opinion or his whinning. He looked good too   Whining? A man never whines

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856.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Aug 2013 Mon 11:00 pm   Quoting elenagabriela why we use to say I am too old for  something and never I am too young for this...     I am too young to die.

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857.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Aug 2013 Mon 10:59 pm deaf and mute. who would like to listen to a woman? TheNemanja liked this message

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858.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Aug 2013 Mon 10:50 pm   Quoting Kelowna     never saw that one I really  like Başka Dilde Aşk it was about a mute/deaf turkish boy and a normal hearing girl - it was perfect she never had to listen to his crap full version on utube http://youtu.be/Vtwu54buabs   I prefer a deaf woman

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859.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Aug 2013 Mon 10:26 pm   Quoting Kelowna     Uhmm I don´t know who shit in your corn flakes this morning but I don´t care what you think or what you think about me . The posts were not posted for you in mind. Hmmm actually you were never in mind old man go back to the oldie posts and reminist That was harsh

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860.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Aug 2013 Mon 09:48 pm   Quoting Kelowna     and yet you like turkish star wars.....   Yes becuase it is a milestone in Turkish sci-fi genre We showed world how to make a decent sci-fi movie with it

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861.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Aug 2013 Mon 09:43 pm Recep İvedik is so absurd

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862.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Aug 2013 Mon 09:32 pm   Quoting Kelowna     this is for you gok because you contributed http://youtu.be/B_LOUDjh0qA   Youtube doesnt allow me to watch this video in my country. So funny

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863.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Aug 2013 Mon 09:06 pm   Quoting Kelowna     what is the philosophy - steal what you can not make yourself  No the philosopy is make it better than the original. You see it is way better than the original Star Wars series

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864.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Aug 2013 Mon 07:08 pm   Quoting Kelowna   Turkish Star Wars is an iconic movie . Even in North America it is watched and enjoyed by a groups of  people who love it as a stolen script so badly done. I bought a copy of this off ebay and we have a bad movie fest every year and it gets played.     It is not bad. It is a very good action movie. And even it has a philosophy

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865.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Aug 2013 Mon 06:21 pm   Quoting duskahvesi actually i am not interested in taking to take ur apprecitiation.. i just want to wind old members.. i know what i have posted or not.. and this not the place where u can humiliaite.. we dont need your some advices.. we all know we are.. may ube u dont and what not interested in me.. so talk to urself and dont try to give me some lessons... when u r coming, i was on back way       This is a war declaration Kelowna liked this message

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866.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Aug 2013 Mon 06:16 pm   Quoting Kelowna   more like to lazy and I did not offer cookies or cake to motivate you   Can I still have them?

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867.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Aug 2013 Mon 06:13 pm   Quoting Kelowna Thank you both foka and elenagabriela for correct my mistakes   I wanted to correct but it was too late

Thread: Bakar mısın

868.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Aug 2013 Mon 07:47 am bakar mısın? would you look at (me) ? bak-ar  mı-sın ? verb - present simple tense question  personal ending Edited (8/19/2013) by gokuyum Aisha_Bilqis liked this message

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869.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Aug 2013 Mon 07:41 am   Quoting si++     They only say so. I have provided some analysis above. If you point out anything wrong with it maybe we can further talk about it. I am too old for such an argument. I can only copy and paste   Edited (8/19/2013) by gokuyum

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870.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Aug 2013 Mon 12:28 am   Quoting kah.linares Hey how are you? I just wanted to thank you both for the wedding invitation, I genuinely wanted to come unfortunately I won´t be able to for a bunch of reasons. Either way, I´m leaving on a long flight today and wanted to wish you both a wonderful time. I hope your life together will be fullfilled with joy, happiness, blessings and lots of love. May the love you express for each other today, always be the first thoughts during any hard time in the future.  Wishes of healthy family and generations of beautiful turkish children. ^^ God bless you both !!  Lots of love ,  Karina ps: remember the groom´s golden rule " happy wife , happy life " lol . Couldn´t leave without that one . xxx   İkinize de evlilik davetiniz için teşekkür etmek istedim. Gerçekten çok gelmek isterdim ama bazı sebeplerden ötürü gelemeyeceğim. Bugün uzun bir uçuş için ayrılıyorum ve ikinize de harika bir zaman diliyorum. Umarım hayatınız birlikte neşe, mutluluk, uğur ve bolca aşkla dolu olur. Umarım hergün birbirinize ifade ettiğiniz aşkınız ileride zor zamanlarınızda aklınıza gelen ilk düşünce olur. Mutlu bir aile ve güzel Türk çocukları dilekleriyle. Tanrı ikinizi de kutsasın. Çok sevgilerle  Karina Lütfen damatın altın kuralını hatırlayın: "Mutlu eş, mutlu hayat" lol. Bunu demeden ayrılamadım.   HaNNo liked this message

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871.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Aug 2013 Sun 11:50 pm   Quoting Kelowna Yol (1982) - IMDb www.imdb.com/title/tt0084934/‎ http://youtu.be/JUKmTedqjoo  full version with english subs You are a real intellectual dear

Thread: t-e

872.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Aug 2013 Sun 11:49 pm   Quoting strix55 Kim özge?   Wow. I cant believe. This is the translation request I have always waited. Only two words.     Who is Özge? Özge kim? jolanaze, TheNemanja, beautifullies28 and insallah liked this message

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873.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Aug 2013 Sun 11:17 pm So you think this is convincing? Be more creative

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874.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Aug 2013 Sun 11:00 pm Years dont change you

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875.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Aug 2013 Sun 10:19 pm   Quoting HaNNo     come on lazy... i want to know the corrections too   You should convince me first HaNNo liked this message

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876.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Aug 2013 Sun 09:17 pm http://www.hemeningilizce.com/ingilizce-ders/zaman-baglaclari-2 They say it is a conjunction.

Thread: spouse invitation letter

877.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Aug 2013 Sun 08:57 pm https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-A9HVNb_Qjg Your husband should watch this. Edited (8/18/2013) by gokuyum imee liked this message

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878.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Aug 2013 Sun 12:01 pm   Quoting srhat     I and V is correct as you say. Because they are both adjectives. As you can see they describe a noun comes after them. II is adverb becuse it describes the verb (dinlemek) not a noun. III is part of a adverbal phrase. IV is a noun.     srhat liked this message

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879.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Aug 2013 Sun 06:33 am My try: Kelimeler konuşamadığı zaman sessizlik konuşur   Foka is your Turkish that much good or did you get help?

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880.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Aug 2013 Sun 06:30 am Native speaker is tired ikicihan and TheNemanja liked this message

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881.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Aug 2013 Sat 04:22 pm Wof.

Thread: E to T please

882.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Aug 2013 Sat 04:20 pm   Quoting denizli Please help: Here I come saint goku I know you like me but do you love me? Benden hoşlandığını biliyorum ama beni seviyor musun?   You want to leave but do you need to leave? Ayrılmak istiyorsun ama ayrılman lazım mı?   Do you sit where you live? Yaşadığın yerde oturuyor musun?

Thread: E 2 T...Corrections please

883.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Aug 2013 Sat 06:44 am   Quoting Scott88     Well...you´re right, but for metaphorical purpose I have to keep the harmoney...Distance in between two things is mesurable quantity so love has to be the same in this regard (it surely implies longing).   I think it implies lust Kelowna liked this message

Thread: Turk´s opinion about pets inside

884.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Aug 2013 Fri 07:19 pm   Quoting Kelowna     I guess if it is dead you do not need to feed. sanirim  ölü eğer Eğer besleme yok Sanırım ölüyse beslemene gerek olmaz.   Edited (8/16/2013) by gokuyum Edited (8/19/2013) by gokuyum Kelowna liked this message

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885.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Aug 2013 Fri 07:19 pm   Quoting Kelowna     correct what I wrote if I write in turkish , I want it to be correct so I can learn better.   Okay dear let me see.

Thread: Turk´s opinion about pets inside

886.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Aug 2013 Fri 06:48 pm   Quoting Kelowna     I guess if it is dead you do not need to feed. sanirim  ölü eğer Eğer besleme yok I like them alive

Thread: Turk´s opinion about pets inside

887.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Aug 2013 Fri 06:44 pm All parakeets my mother feeded died in a short period of time. I was a child and I almost get traumatised when I saw one of them hanging upside down like a bat. It was dead We dont feed parakeets anymore. Edited (8/16/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Patatesli Yumusacik Recipe - need help to finish it

888.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Aug 2013 Fri 06:19 pm   Quoting Kelowna can anyone help with this part Sogumus olan haslanmis patatesleri rendeleyin. Butun hamur malzemelerini derin bir                the  scald        potatoes    grated (grate them)  .     All      dough ingredients     deep  a kaptakaristirin.Kulak memesi yumusakliginda esnek ve yumusak bir hamur yogurun. bowl in to mix(mix them). Daha sonra, cevizden biraz daha irice hamur parcalari alin ve elinizle acarak ortasina arzu later,          (then) walnut?      slightly  largish flour pieces    take        and (with your hand)le ettiginiz ic malzemeden 1 tatli kasigi koyun. Hamurun kenarlarindan ortaya dogru toplayin ve torba agzi gibi sikica kapatip yapistirarak yuvarlak pogacalar yapin. Ters cevirip duzgun taraflari uste gelecek sekilde yaglanmis firin tepsisine aralikli olarak dizin. Cirpilmis yumurta sarisini firca ile butun pogacalarin uzerine surun. Son olarak, susam ya da corek otu serpin. Onceden isitilmis 200C (400F) firinda yaklasik 20-25 dakika veya uzerleri kizarana dek pisirin. Sicak servis yapin. I added my corrections.   Kelowna liked this message

Thread: Patatesli Yumusacik Recipe - need help to finish it

889.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Aug 2013 Fri 06:10 pm   Quoting Kelowna 2 orta boy patates, haslanmis ve soyulmus 2 medium potatoes, boiled and peeled 2 yumurta 2 eggs 150 gram tereyag, oda sicakliginda 150g butter , in the room heat ( room temperature ) 2 ½ su bardagi un 2 1/2 cups flour 1 tatli kasigi kabartma tozu 1 sugarspoon baking powder 1 tatli kasigi tuz 1 sugar spoon salt Uzeri icin bir yumurta sarisi egg yellow for on top Uzeri icin susam ya da corek otu sesane seeds fir  on top    Ic malzeme: 1 su bardagi lor peynir 1 cup ???? cheese YA DA or 1 su bardagi beyaz peynir, ufalanmis 1 cup white cheese ????? YA DA or 1 su bardagi siyah zeytin, ince dilimlenmis 1 cup black olives ?????    Sogumus olan haslanmis patatesleri rendeleyin. Butun hamur malzemelerini derin bir kapta karistirin. Kulak memesi yumusakliginda esnek ve yumusak bir hamur yogurun. Daha sonra, cevizden biraz daha irice hamur parcalari alin ve elinizle acarak ortasina arzu ettiginiz ic malzemeden 1 tatli kasigi koyun. Hamurun kenarlarindan ortaya dogru toplayin ve torba agzi gibi sikica kapatip yapistirarak yuvarlak pogacalar yapin. Ters cevirip duzgun taraflari uste gelecek sekilde yaglanmis firin tepsisine aralikli olarak dizin. Cirpilmis yumurta sarisini firca ile butun pogacalarin uzerine surun. Son olarak, susam ya da corek otu serpin. Onceden isitilmis 200C (400F) firinda yaklasik 20-25 dakika veya uzerleri kizarana dek pisirin. Sicak servis yapin. AFIYET OLSUN   I hope my translation makes sense. I hate translating recipes. They are difficult for me to translate.   Grate the boiled potatoes which are cooled down. Mix all the dough ingredients in a deep pot. Knead a dough which is soft and flexible as an earlobe (hahaha) Then take dough pieces which are bigger than walnut, then open them by your hand and put in them 1 sugar spoon of inner ingredient which you desire. Then put them together from sides to center and make round pastaries closing them like a sack mouth. Then put them upside down flat parts of them looking up in an oiled oven tray in rows with spaces. Put whipped yellow part of the eggs onto pastaries by a brush. Then scatter sesame or çörek otu (?). Cook them in an owen which is already heated 200C for 20-25 minutes until tops of them turn red. Serve them hot.  TheNemanja and Kelowna liked this message

Thread: advanced grammar question

890.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Aug 2013 Fri 10:18 am I looked for a translation for "zarf tümleci" but I couldnt find a one. So I translated it that way. I hate grammar terms HaNNo liked this message

Thread: what is your favorite actor and actress?

891.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Aug 2013 Fri 10:14 am Erdal Beşikçioğlu

Thread: Good Tv Shows to reccommend??

892.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Aug 2013 Fri 10:12 am   Quoting TurkishSoapFan     wow i´m pleased to hear that! that makes me even more excited to watch it. As long as it still contains the Turkish drama touch to it, i don´t mind them making adaptions I dont understand what is so special about Turkish dramas. What is the difference? When I was a teenager there were Brazillian dramas on Turkish tv channels and people were watching them.And all of a sudden a drama craziness started in Turkey. I think the start of this craziness was Asmalı Konak.

Thread: Army ousts Egypt´s President Morsi

893.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Aug 2013 Fri 10:07 am You Egyptians really speak English very good like a native English speaker. Maybe I am too suspicious HaNNo liked this message

Thread: E to T. for fun

894.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Aug 2013 Fri 03:32 am   Quoting Leafsome     Why thank you impulse!! Maybe one day I can use these on someone. You rock!   Dont use them a lot. You can scare him emjay and beautifullies28 liked this message

Thread: advanced grammar question

895.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Aug 2013 Fri 03:27 am   Quoting srhat My actual question is: what is the lexical category of the underlined word in the third sentence (sürece)? Adverb or sth else?     Daha önceki çalışmaları incelemedikleri sürece is adverb complement. You cant seperate them. Edited (8/16/2013) by gokuyum caliptrix liked this message

Thread: EZEL

896.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Aug 2013 Fri 03:17 am   Quoting Kelowna     I thought you had retired          or was that entirely just tired....   I am not retired yet dear.I am still trying to make a career finishing my doctorate succesfully. emjay liked this message

Thread: E to T. for fun

897.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Aug 2013 Thu 04:23 pm Here is what I read about love in a novel I have just finished. I dont know if it is right or wrong. But it sounds logical:    Aşk şehvetin estetik seklidir. Love is the aesthetic form of lust.   Aşkın şehvetle aynı şey olduğunun kesin bir delili de vuslattan sonra ikisinin de sönmesidir. The certain proof of being lust and love the same thing is after union they both die down. Edited (8/15/2013) by gokuyum Edited (8/15/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: SENDING MAIL TO TURKEY

898.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Aug 2013 Thu 04:15 pm   Quoting hestia86 When we were in Turkey, we sent postcards from Göreme to Estonia and Finland. We were long home begore the cards came: a bit damaged but still got here, one of them in more than 2  and the other more than 3 weeks later. According to the stamps it had taken a week for it even to start moving from Göreme Now i sent a small package to Göreme. It reached Istanbul in 9 days and hasn´t moved since... maybe it can be a Christmas present instead of birthday present What did you send to Göreme? Pudding?   emjay liked this message

Thread: E to T please my attempt

899.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Aug 2013 Thu 01:47 pm You forget me You know how much I like to add new thanks to my "thank you" collection Inscrutable liked this message

Thread: Good Tv Shows to reccommend??

900.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Aug 2013 Thu 01:42 pm   Quoting si++     The scriptwriters are very talented.   Maybe they are. But they cant always write good scripts every week for a 90 minute tv series for a 40 episode season. This is completely madness. I hope one day they will shoot a 30 minute tv series in Turkey. I want to be hopeful. Edited (8/15/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: EZEL

901.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Aug 2013 Thu 07:09 am   Quoting TurkishSoapFan where can i find it with english subtitles?? I´ve looked everywhere   I am planning to translate it when I retire. Just wait 35 years. TheNemanja and HaNNo liked this message

Thread: corrections needed E 2 T

902.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Aug 2013 Thu 07:07 am   Quoting Scott88 Hi everyone,  I´m tryin to translate this into Turkish. "When I miss you, I don´t have to go far. I just have to look inside my heart because that´s where I´ll find you."  "Seni ozledigim zaman, Uzağa gitmek zorunda değilim. Sadece kalbimin içine bakmam gerekiyor  Bu yerde Orası seni bulacagim yer cunku." I used extremely basic grammers and vocabularies, so any corrections or elaborations to make the quote grammatically sound would be appreciated. Thanks!      Scott88 liked this message

Thread: EZEL

903.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Aug 2013 Wed 11:26 pm   Quoting elenagabriela nice advice I appreciate   Great. At least when you appreciate me you give cakes some others even dont give a simple thank you

Thread: E to T please my attempt

904.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Aug 2013 Wed 11:23 pm   Quoting elenagabriela evinin dışındayim     my try   It is grammatically correct. But we say "evinin önündeyim" (I am in front of your house).

Thread: EZEL

905.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Aug 2013 Wed 11:20 pm   Quoting elenagabriela you have watch Al Yazmalım series,  where the character of Barış Falay (Kerpeten Ali - Ezel series) is so different here (Cemşit Ateş; the production company - Ay Yapım - is the same as for Ezel personaly I appreciate very much Barış Falay (I saw him too in Aliye series) - I have read he played in Hamlet too - I wish to see his performance.. I dont know there is an english subtitle version of Al Yazmalım series (I am watching in turkish), but is a good way for practicing your turkish another series I watched and where the actors are speaking very clear is Iffet Only decent Turkish Tv series I have watched was Behzat Ç. I was able to watch more than 70 episodes. That was a record for me. I am so used to watch American Tv series which are 45 minutes and have 13 episodes in a season, I cant bear to watch Turkish tv series which are  90 minutes and have more than 30 episodes in a season. Now I watch Dexter and True Blood. I watched all 8 seasons of Dexter and all 6 seasons of True Blood. If you want to make you a favor please watch Behzat Ç. http://www.startv.com.tr/dizi/behzatc/bolumler/sayfa/9   Edited (8/14/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: E to T Funny sayings

906.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Aug 2013 Wed 11:03 pm   Quoting Kelowna    Terazi – 22 Eylül – 22 Ekim – despot, bazen enerjik bazen tembel, sempatik, tartışmacı, spor ve hayvanlar ile ilgili. it seems to fit me somedays Yep

Thread: can you translate to english Lütfen:-)

907.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Aug 2013 Wed 10:19 am   Quoting Abla No big deal. Probably the requester had no idea what it means. Besides, these are very frequent expressions in language, it is good to know them, not necessarily to use but to recognize.   But look at her/his nick.

Thread: E to T Funny sayings

908.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Aug 2013 Wed 10:17 am Yengeç – 23 Haziran – 22 Temmuz – komik(funny), tedbirli(cautious), endişeli(anxious), utangaç(shy), tarih ile ilgili(interested in history), genelde mutlu(generally happy).   I am a typical cancer.

Thread: T 2 E

909.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Aug 2013 Wed 07:19 am   Quoting Scott88 Could anyone translate this saying by Ozdemir Asaf for me: "Sus be yüreğim Ben de biliyorum özlediğimi; Sus da bilmesin özlendiğini." Thanks!    O my heart be quiet. I know you miss him/her. Be quiet so dont let her know that he/she is missed. etena and Scott88 liked this message

Thread: T - E please

910.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Aug 2013 Tue 11:26 pm   Quoting jolanaze Would you be so kind as to tell me if I understand this correctly?Seni he an gelecek gibi bekliyorum - I am waiting for you every next momentAnd please can  you tell me what exactly means UZULME?many thanks. I am waiting you as if you will come any moment.   jolanaze liked this message

Thread: can you translate to english Lütfen:-)

911.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Aug 2013 Tue 02:50 pm   Quoting beatazielinska Bu kadar Türkçe fazla değilim değil mi? Yeter herhalde sana ama güzel çok çabuk öğreniyorsun This much Turkish is a lot, right? I think it is enough for you but you learn Turkish very fast.       There is a typo I guess. After my coreection it makes sense. I think he means you have studied Turkish a lot for a day. Edited (8/13/2013) by gokuyum Aisha_Bilqis liked this message

Thread: Father wants to move to Turkey but he cant speak the language.

912.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Aug 2013 Tue 12:52 am   Quoting rlydick Well my father has an idea of Turkey in his head that its such a great place...I mean its nice but he has only been here two times and each time was for a 2 week visit. So he has no idea what its like to really LIVE and try to survive here. I also think hes setting himself up to be dissapointed. He has no idea about visas and work permit over here. And i dont think he would have any interest in being a foreign language teacher of English but that would really be the only way he could earn money if he came here without knowing how to speak the language. My mom on the other hand has no clue as to what its like living here either she has an idea in her head of Turkey thats unrealistic...shes been here only 1 time and it was for 2 weeks as well. I just feel their gonna set themselves up to be highly dissapointed and I feel they will struggle a lot and it would be a burden on me and my husband. Maybe your father needs to be disappointed. Let him do whatever he wants but be sure he doesnt sell his house in America.

Thread: Turkish to Russian

913.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Aug 2013 Mon 11:25 pm   Quoting Alizeh     Do you really???     Nope. But I would like to learn it. Alizeh liked this message

Thread: Invisible ´Classes´

914.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Aug 2013 Mon 01:49 am   Quoting Mandala thanks Admin - is working now ))   i had the problem too..((   You should thank me too. I motivated the admin with my words or you would be waiting forever caliptrix liked this message

Thread: Good Tv Shows to reccommend??

915.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Aug 2013 Mon 01:47 am   Quoting TurkishSoapFan Just to update, I decided to watch Adini Feriha Koydum and I absolutely loved everything except the ending!! once again very sad ending anyone recommend a show that actually has a good ending? There´s no point in watching if the story finishes in a sad way. So frustrated hahah Dont worry after lovers die they always meet in heaven. This is our good ending understanding   TurkishSoapFan liked this message

Thread: Turkish to Russian

916.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Aug 2013 Mon 01:43 am   Quoting Abla English is the official language of this website. After all, that is our common language. But feel free to speak Turkish in the chat room.   I prefer speaking Urdu in the chatroom. I recommend you the same. caliptrix liked this message

Thread: Help with letter translation

917.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Aug 2013 Mon 01:31 am Yep. Turkish hospitality

Thread: Help with letter translation

918.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Aug 2013 Sun 08:39 pm This year the international team will start in Antakya on Saturday 28th September and will carry the flaming torch towards Kapadokya where it will finish on Friday 4th October. On [DATE] around [TIME] the team will reach [PLACE]. We will be very happy if you can welcome the team to your town! Bu yıl uluslarası takım Antalya´da 28 Eylül´de başlayacak ve meşaleyi 4 Ekim Cuma günü bitiş yeri olan Kapadokya´ya doğru taşıyacak.Eğer takımı şehrinizde karşılarsanız çok mutlu oluruz. Date tarihinde Time sularında takımımız Place´e/a/ye/ya varacak. We invite you to take part in the World Harmony Run by: Dünya Ahengi koşusuna sizi de şu şekilde katılmaya davet ediyoruz:   receiving the torch by the town representatives, kent temsilcilerinin meşaleyi alması contacting local school(s) to get children involved, çocukların da dahil olması için yerel okullarla temasa geçme contacting local athletic, runner or sports club to join us, bize katılmaları için yerel atletizm, koşu veya spor klüpleriyle temasa geçme contacting local TV, radio and newspapers, yerel televizyon kanalları, radyo kanalları ve gazetelerle temasa geçme providing small police escort if local sportsmen are involved, eğer yerel sporcular dahil olacaksa küçük bir polis eskortu sağlama providing light refreshments.           hafif yiyecek ve içecekler temin etme (you mean something light to eat and drink, right?)   Please contact me soon by e-mail or telephone to discuss details. English is prefered but I can read and write basic Turkish. Lütfen benimle mail veya telefonla temasa geçin. İngilizce tercih edilir ama temel düzeyde Türkçe okuyup yazabilirim. Edited (8/11/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: E to T please my attempt

919.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Aug 2013 Sun 01:03 am   Quoting Inscrutable O Kur´ân-ı Kerim´i oğrenmek istiyor, ona ögreteblir misin lütfen? He wants to learn the Kuran´Kareem, can you teach him please? Thank you   Kur´ân-ı Kerim is written in form of a Farsi adjective clause. Edited (8/11/2013) by gokuyum Edited (8/11/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: E to T please my attempt

920.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Aug 2013 Sun 12:54 am   Quoting Inscrutable Hocaya benden selam söyle. Please say salam to Hoca from me. Thank you   Yep.

Thread: T2E plz

921.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Aug 2013 Sun 12:45 am   Quoting nessah Üzülme ve kızma hiç kimseye yaptiklarindan dolayı.. Dont get upset and dont be angry at people because of what they did.   Aksine Teşekkür et ihanet edenlere; Sadakati Ōğrettikleri için,   On the contrary thank the betrayers because they have taught you loyalty.   Minnet duy Yalancılara ; Doğrunun Farkina varmani Sağladiklari icin, Be grateful to liars because they have made you notice the truth. Mutsuz edenlere Dua et ; Mutluluğu Daha derin Hissettirdikleri için, Pray for who upset you because they have made you feel the happiness deeper. Herkesi Sev ; Yaşamina iyi Kötü anlam Kattıklari için , Love everybody becuse they have been adding some meaning to your life either good or bad. Hayat bu Yüzden daha Gūzel ; Siyahla Beyazı Fark Ettirdiği için Life is more beautiful because it makes you notice black and white....       Edited (8/11/2013) by gokuyum Edited (8/11/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Invisible ´Classes´

922.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Aug 2013 Sat 08:11 pm   Quoting Elisabeth admin fixed the classes sometime last night or this morning!  Thank you!! Hallelujah!

Thread: İyi Bayramlar!

923.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Aug 2013 Sat 05:34 am It is early morning here. I am in the village and there is nothing to eat in the fridge. Now I am eating candies and chocolates that my mother hided from me Edited (8/10/2013) by gokuyum catwoman liked this message

Thread: Turkish to English

924.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Aug 2013 Sat 03:10 am   Quoting Kelowna      who stoled(took) the cookies from the cookie jar   Kurabiyeleri kurabiye kavanozundan kim çaldı? Ben çaldım. Pişman değilim Kelowna liked this message

Thread: Turkish to English

925.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Aug 2013 Sat 03:06 am   Quoting Kelowna     tmm   salak   kim cerez suse cerz calmak (?) lutfen duzeltin   I dont understand.

Thread: Turkish to English

926.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Aug 2013 Sat 03:03 am   Quoting Kelowna     neden bazi insanlar bu kadar aptal mi?   cok cok aptal     Hayır aptal değiller. Onlar çok akıllı.

Thread: Turkish to English

927.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Aug 2013 Sat 02:58 am   Quoting Kelowna Gokuyum´a bazi sorular sorabilir miyim?   Sorabilirsin

Thread: Turkish to English

928.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Aug 2013 Sat 02:57 am   Quoting Kelowna Ben çok açım Bana yiyecek vermek or bana yemek vermek which one?   Bana yiyecek ver. Give me food. Bana yemek var. Give me meal

Thread: Turkish to English

929.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Aug 2013 Sat 01:43 am I believe in translation no matter what. Sometimes I get so bored and look for a text to translate here but I cant find. So send your translations. Dont be shy Edited (8/10/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Turkish to English

930.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Aug 2013 Sat 01:34 am I didnt mean harm. Beautifullies is a good friend of mine.

Thread: Turkish to English

931.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Aug 2013 Sat 01:24 am Hey you two stop fighting. I cant sleep here

Thread: Tamamdır - Burcu GÜNEŞ

932.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Aug 2013 Fri 07:28 pm   Quoting behzadi_elham It´s Okay    Bir tanem her daim hayatında kalma sözü versem  My darling, if I promise to stay forever in your life    Tutabilir miyim, tutabilir miyim?  Can I keep this promise, can I keep this promise?    Seninle her durumda var olmayı istesem  If I want to be with you in any situation   Sona giden yollarda olabilir miyim, olabilir miyim? Can I stay in be on the roads that go to the end, can I be make it?   Her durumda sınanmaya hazırım ben In any situation, I´m ready to be put to a test   Gücümü önce Tanrıdan First of all I took my strength from God   Sonra gözlerinden aldım ben Then from your eyes   Bu yüzden mutluyum That´s why I´m happy   Hayata minnettarım ben sana I owe you my life  I am grateful to life   Yanıltmaz umarım kalbimi seneler I hope that won´t mislead my heart for years I hope years wont mislead my heart   Tamamdır That´s okay   İnanıyorum ben aşkıma I trust my lover   Üzmez o beni sarar beyaz beyaz pamuklara He won´t make me sad, will wrap me in the snow white cottons   Devamdır It continues   Ölene kadar senin bu kalp Till the death, this heart belongs to you   Güveniyorum sana hadi al al ona iyi bak I trust you, come on, take it, take it, take a good care of it   Translated by: Elham BEHZADI     Edited (8/9/2013) by gokuyum HaNNo liked this message

Thread: inside, outside...

933.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Aug 2013 Fri 07:12 pm   Quoting HaNNo I have a problem with in, on, inside, outside... lesson in livemocha.com   what is the difference between: 1. dışında(outside of something), dışarda (outside: I am outside) 2. içinde(inside of something), içerde(inside : He is inside), içeride (same with içerde) 3. üzerinde (on top of something), üstünde (on top of something)   Thanks   HaNNo liked this message

Thread: Benim Birinci Öyküm!

934.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Aug 2013 Fri 01:37 am   Quoting Fiskje88 gokuyum´a göre pratik yapmak için bu "forum" iyi bir yer. Onun için gelecek öyküyü yazdım.   ***   Benim adım Marco. Hollandalıyım, yani Hollanda´da küçük bir köyde Hollanda´da oturuyorum. Onun Adı Tolkamer ve büyük bir ırmağın kenarında duruyor. Köy, Hollanda´nın doğusunda köy. Orada, evim var. Benim için büyük bir ev çünkü çok oda var. Alt katta oturma odası ve mutfak var. Mutfağı çok severim, çünkü yemek pişirmek hoşuma gidiyor. Birinci katta üç tane yatak odası var. Onların iki tanesi boş. Bir yıl önce taşındım ama odaları daha döşemedim. Ayrıca banyo var ama onu da döşemedim: mesela duşun perdesi yok, mesela. Aslında tavan arasım aram var. Orada, aletler çamaşır makinası gibi aletler var.   Ben yirmi dört yaşındayım. Bu Türkiye´de yirmi beş yaşında mı, acaba? (What do you mean here?) Ertesi ay doğum günüm var: on dört eylülde. Doetinchem´de okulda İngilizce öğretmeniyim okulda Doetinchem´de. Bu küçük bir şehir. Orada, aşağı yukarı 50,000 kişi yaşıyor. İşimi çok severim, çünkü memnuniyetle çocuklarla çalışırım. Okulum güzel, çok rahat bir ortam var.   Türkçe öğreniyorum çünkü arkadaşım "Türk". Hollanda´da doğdu ama anne ve babası otuz yıl önce Türkiye´den geldiler. Burada iş vardı. Ondan sonra, burada kaldılar. Arkadaşımın ailesini tanımıyorum. Ben ise benim arkadaşım ailelerimizi ayrı tutarız.(What do you mean here?) Bizim için böylece böylesi daha kolay. Bazen benim arkadaşım ailesinin yemeklerini getirir. Arkadaşımın annesinin yaprak sarmasıı çok leziz!   Küçük bir öykü yazdım. Bu benim seviyemin seviyeme iyi bir örnek. Umarım, biraz iyiydi! It is good. You have some problems with word order. Other than that sometimes you make mistakes with punctuations. Dont use come before or after ve, ama, çünkü, etc....   Edited (8/9/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: The -lik [4x] suffix

935.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Aug 2013 Fri 01:05 am http://www.turkishlanguage.co.uk/nouns.htm Formation of nouns from adjectives - the suffix -lik This suffix is vowel harmonized forms are -lik -lık -luk -lük. The suffix -lik is very heavily used in Turkish. It has four main uses in Turkish as follows; 1. Formation of Abstract and Collective Nouns The main use of the suffix -lik is to form Abstract Nouns from Adjectives. güzel - beautiful - becomes - güzellik - beauty mutlu - happy - becomes - mutluluk - happiness iyi - good - becomes - iyilik - goodness çocuk - child - becomes - çocukluk - childhood zor - difficult becomes zorluk - difficulty, complication It should be noted that the English Abstract nouns end in -ness, -tion, -ity, etc (generally) Of course these abstract nouns can be further suffixed in Turkish according to their function in meaning: mutluluğum - [mutluluğ-um] - my happiness Hepimiz, çocukluğumuzu mutluluk içinde geçirdik. O zamanlarda mutluluğum sonsuzdu. - All of us passed our childhood in happiness. At that time my happiness was endless - [Hep-imiz, çocuk-luğ-umuz-u mut-lu-luk iç-i-nde geç-ir-dik. O zaman-lar-da mutlu-luğ-um son-suz-du.] Thanks to Murat Açık for corrections to the sections above and below - JG, December 2012 Formation of Collective Nouns genç - young becomes gençlik - youth yaşlı - old becomes yaşlılık - age insan - person/human becomes insanlık - human-kind kişi - person/individual becomes kişilik - personality/identity Bakan - Minister becomes Bakanlık - Ministry balık - fish becomes balıkçı - fisherman becomes Balıkçılık - Fishing Club, Group, Association This last example shows that noun suffixes can be chained to produce further extended meanings. Thanks to Kadir Demirel for suggestions in this section - JG - Nov. 2006 2. Forming nouns of Usage When adding -lik to concrete nouns or verb stems it forms nouns and adjectives meaning - suitable for.. intended for... place of...  tuz - salt - becomes - tuzluk - salt cellar biber - pepper - becomes - biberlik - pepper shaker göz - eye - becomes - gözlük - spectacles kira - hire - becomes - kiralık - for hire yağmur - raın - becomes - yağmurluk - raincoat, mackintosh, oilskin 3. Forming Nouns of Location Bakan - Minister - becomes - Bakanlık - Ministry çamaşır - linen, laundry items - becomes - çamaşırlık - a laundry orman - forest - becomes - ormanlık - forest place In this example of - forest - we can see that Turkish uses -lik to make a Substantive Noun of Location, as in the following example: O tepenin arkasında büyük bir ormanlık bulunur - There is a large forest (to be found) behind that hill. Here the word - ormanlık - is used as a general Substantive Noun of Location. We may go on to talk about this particular - orman - itself: O ormanda çok yabani hayvan varmış. - It seems there are many wild animals in that forest. Many place names - (have a look at a Turkish map) - often end in the suffix -lik. One that springs to mind is Ayvalık - Place of the Quince - [ayva], there is also a place near Çeşme called Değirmenlik - Place of the Mill - [değirmen] It is difficult to translate this suffix directly into English, we can only say - "Quince" or "Quinceville" and "Milltown" or "Millhill" or whatever. Arising from the above we can also form nouns of "Place of" as follows elmalık - apple orchard - from - elma - apple sebzelik - vegetable garden, stall - from - sebze - vegetable çiçeklik - flower garden, stall - from - çiçek - flower kitaplık - book case - from - kitap - book 4. The Suffix -lik with Numbers: A number is normally used as an adjective thus the number 10 (as an adjective) - on yumurta - ten eggs. Turkish changes numbers and numeric expressions into nouns by the addition of the -lik suffix thus the number 10 - on - becomes - onluk - the amount of ten. This is like saying Lend me a "tenner" in English, where the number 10 has become a noun of the amount ten. The suffix -lik is often added to counted nouns to produce a complex counted noun. Let us take our example of on yumurta -ten eggs. If we say I want a ten egg box. in English we understand that our requirement is "A box that will contain the amount of ten eggs." Let us look at some possibilities in Turkish: on yumurta bir kutu - ten eggs one box - this example has no meaning in Turkish - it is just two items - "ten eggs" and "one box". Turkish will use a counted noun - on yumurtalık - ten eggs-amount - thus - I want a ten egg box - becomes: On yumurtalık bir kutu istiyorum - [Lit: I want a ten egg-amount box.] If we want to say - I want a box of ten eggs - the Turkish uses the -li - furnished with, containing - suffix: On yumurtalı bir kutu istiyorum - I want a box containing ten eggs. İki kişilik çadır var mı? - [Lit: Is there a tent of two person-amount?] - in English - Is there a double tent? Evet var. Kaç günlük ? - [Lit: Yes, there is. How many day-amount?] - in English - Yes there is. For how many days? An "eggy" question Here is an "eggy" question from one of our Turkish friends, showing the diference in Turkish logic: Shouldn´t that be? - "I want a ten egged box" - Cafer Bey by Email My answer: To your suggestion: "I want a ten egged box". I´m sorry I can not agree, I feel it should be "I want a ten egg box", as I have written. If we say it your way, it makes the box itself "modified" as in "I want a black coloured box" or "I want a silk lined box". But a "ten egg box" describes a box that can contain up to "ten eggs" ; that is how it is understood. Let us not forget that supermarkets in England sell their eggs in "egg boxes" not in "egged boxes" To understand the difference "I want a three key box" - a box to put three keys into, and "I want a three keyed box" - a box which need three keys to open it.

Thread: E to T please my attempt

936.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Aug 2013 Thu 11:21 pm You can say this too: Seni onunla tanıştıracağım.

Thread: Where to write?

937.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Aug 2013 Thu 11:15 pm   Quoting Abla write something in the notebook write data to a text file   In Turkish, DAT or LOC?   deftere yaz kitaba yaz kağıda yaz aklına yaz

Thread: E to T please my attempt

938.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Aug 2013 Thu 10:13 pm   Quoting Inscrutable Inşallah sana onunla onu tanıtacağım.   Inşallah I will introduce you him Thank you

Thread: Invisible ´Classes´

939.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Aug 2013 Thu 09:37 pm   Quoting Kelowna     when you see dancing cookies.............. right   Maybe

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940.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Aug 2013 Thu 09:29 pm   Quoting Kelowna can you move that fast?   Only in special situations.

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941.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Aug 2013 Thu 09:26 pm   Quoting Kelowna     he might   Is this him? His ass looks like mine.

Thread: Five Short Sentences For Turkish Learnes to Translate.

942.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Aug 2013 Thu 09:21 pm   Quoting Kelowna e to t dead kitty is a perfect pet, won´t eat your food, make a mess or shed any hair on your black clothes. Will not wake you up to go outside. http://youtu.be/Te4wx4jtiEA     Ölü bir kedi harika bir evcil hayvandır. Yiyeceğinizi yemez, etrafı mahvetmez, siyah elbiselerinize tüylerini dökmez. Sizi dışarı çıkmak için uyandırmaz.

Thread: Five Short Sentences For Turkish Learnes to Translate.

943.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Aug 2013 Thu 09:19 pm   Quoting Henry   The cat was run over by a car. Read more here And now I have some translation questions, and hope to learn  But why is it dead? Ama neden öldü? [Kedi neden öldü?] A car ran over the cat. Bir araba kediyi çiğnedi. The cat was run over by a car. Kedi arabayla çiğnendi. (passive) Bunlar doğru mu?   Yes.

Thread: Invisible ´Classes´

944.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Aug 2013 Thu 09:17 pm I dont think admin would move his ass for this

Thread: Five Short Sentences For Turkish Learnes to Translate.

945.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Aug 2013 Thu 09:09 pm   Quoting Kelowna kedi´un bir kalp hastal1g1 var.  kitty has a heart condition kedi aklında cok hicbir sey degili var kitty has alot of nothing on his mind kedi az konusan degil meow bir Kediciğin kalp rahatsızlığı var. Kedinin aklı birçok hiçbirşeyle dolu.       elenagabriela and Kelowna liked this message

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946.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Aug 2013 Thu 07:05 am   Quoting catwoman     That sounds strange, is this good? Journalists who helped organize anti government protests sentenced for 16 years in prison?  life + 16 year sentence

Thread: Five Short Sentences For Turkish Learnes to Translate.

947.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Aug 2013 Thu 03:25 am   Quoting Henry   This reminded me of a Dutch man who used his dead cat to make an unusual quad-copter. Pervaneli bir kedi   Wow it really flies. But why is it dead? Edited (8/8/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Translation of an English song to Turkish

948.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Aug 2013 Wed 02:11 am   Quoting Kelowna     cookies for everyone...................   No just for me I dont like sharing my cookies. beautifullies28 liked this message

Thread: *Song Lyrics* E to T

949.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Aug 2013 Wed 02:10 am   Quoting Kelowna     thank you  I guess maybe if you listen to song it would help Okay I translated them too with the help of dictionary.

Thread: Translation of an English song to Turkish

950.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Aug 2013 Wed 02:01 am   Quoting Kelowna     I will start but someone else has to finish and correct   I translated it. Look at the fourth post. Kelowna liked this message

Thread: *Song Lyrics* E to T

951.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Aug 2013 Wed 01:58 am You should explain them to me.

Thread: Translation of an English song to Turkish

952.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Aug 2013 Wed 01:55 am   Quoting beautifullies28 HEY THANKS. And no, I wanted it translated for my own needs. I can´t make cookies. I can buy you a bunch though. My mother never taught me how to cook, she always had someone cook for her and I grew up with the same. I don´t eat anyway. And you will find someone Gokuyum...I´m pretty sure of it. Well I think. I am a tad afraid of you. Hahaha   Hahaha. Why are you afraid of me? I am pretty harmless

Thread: *Song Lyrics* E to T

953.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Aug 2013 Wed 01:52 am   Quoting Kelowna It´s the last goodbye I swear I can´t rely on a dime a day love that don´t go anywhere I learn to cry for someone else I can´t get by on an odds and ends love that don´t ever match up I heard all you said and I took it to heart   Bu son elveda yemin ederim Hiçbir yere varmayacak on kuruşluk aşka güvenemem Başkası için ağlamayı öğrendim. Uyumsuz ıvır zıvır bir aşkla idare edemem Dediğin her şeyi duydum ve kalbime koydum I won´t forget I swear I have no regrets for the past is behind me Tomorrow reminds me just where   Unutmayacağım yemin ederim Arkamda kalmış geçmişe dair hiçbir pişmanlığım yok Yarın bana sadece nere olduğunu anımsatıyor   Can´t quite see the end How can I rely on my heart if I break it with my own two hands? I heard all you said and I love you to death I heard all you said don´t say anything Sonu çok iyi göremiyorum Kalbime nasıl dayanabilirim onu iki elimle kırarsam? Dediğin herşeyi duydum ve seni ölümüne seviyorum Dediğin herşeyi duydum, başka bir şey söyleme. It´s the last goodbye I swear I can´t survive on a half-hearted love that will never be whole Bu son elveda yemin ederim Asla tam olamayacak yarım bir aşkla yaşayamam.   thank you in advance... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7LPZ8I2-bI&feature=share&list=FL1kimMa6Ns5QW-DA00O1i8Q   I dont understand some sentences? Are some punctuations absent? Edited (8/7/2013) by gokuyum Edited (8/7/2013) by gokuyum Edited (8/7/2013) by gokuyum Edited (8/7/2013) by gokuyum Kelowna liked this message

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954.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Aug 2013 Wed 01:30 am I will translate it my friend.

Thread: Merhaba!

955.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Aug 2013 Tue 08:19 pm Simply: 1. If an object is direct object of an transitive verb it is accusative. (With or without accusative suffix) 2. Some nouns dont be direct objects of some verbs without accusative suffixes (-ı,-i,-u,-ü ). 3. If a noun has an accusative suffix it becomes a definite direct object.  Edited (8/6/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Merhaba!

956.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Aug 2013 Tue 08:11 pm Being definite or not if a noun is a direct object it is accusative. But some verbs want nouns to be definite with taking an accusative suffix. For example "öğrenmek" always wants its object to be definite. But "istemek" sometimes wants it to be definite and sometimes not. Edited (8/6/2013) by gokuyum Edited (8/6/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Merhaba!

957.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Aug 2013 Tue 08:02 pm   Quoting Fiskje88     Önce, herkeşe çok teşekkür ederim. Memnuniyetle iyi Türkçe konuşmak istiyorum. Çok şükür bana yardım edeceksiniz. Ben de size yardım edeceğim, belki.   Ama, sorum var. And I´ll switch to English since the initial question was also put in English...   Why doesn´t "istemek" want the 4th case? I mean, you always want SOMETHING, right, so shouldn´t this something be in the 4th case / accusative case?   Teşekkürler! Yes actually you are right. If it is direct object of a transitive verb it is accusative. But there are accusative suffixes in Turkish which make a noun direct object of a transitive verb. They are -ı, -i, -u, -ü. Some nouns doesnt become direct objects of some verbs without using them. That is why I said verb wants object to be accusative. I guess I should have said verb wants noun to have accusative suffix to become a direct object. I will not do this mistake again.    Edited (8/6/2013) by gokuyum Edited (8/6/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Merhaba!

958.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Aug 2013 Tue 07:16 pm   Quoting elenagabriela I have a question please, gokuyum   why is konuşmayı istiyorum instead of konuşmak istiyorum  (is it linked to Türkçe..?) it is a difference, I know but...sometimes is a big trouble for me şimdiden çok mersi...   Dear elena, I didnt notice it because I was focused on the other mistake in "konuşmamı" "konuşmak istiyorum "is correct. because verb "istemek" doesnt want object to be accusative. but if the verb was "öğrenmek" it would want the object "konuşmak" to be accusative. "konuşmayı öğrenmek istiyorum".   Edited (8/6/2013) by gokuyum elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: Merhaba!

959.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Aug 2013 Tue 07:09 pm   Quoting Umut_Umut     Sen niye ingilizce yazdın ki şimdi   Bilmem. Alışkanlık?

Thread: Merhaba!

960.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Aug 2013 Tue 07:04 pm   Quoting Fiskje88 Merhaba arkadaşlar,   Ben Hollandalıyım ve Türkçe öğreniyorum. Burada yeniyim. Benim Türk arkadaşım var, bu yüzden az Türkçe biliyorum. Hollandaca bir kitaptan öğreniyorum, yani galiba başka şeyleri tanırım.   Hollanda´da Türk televizyonu var: Eurostar. Bazen bunu onu izlerim, ama zor. Benim için yazmak ve okumak daha kolay... Türkçe konuşmak istiyorum, ama arkadaşım benimle birlikte hiç bir zaman (tamam, arada sırada...) Türkçe konuşmuyor. Ama şimdi bu "forumu" buldum!   Umarım, sık sık buraya geleceğim!   Welcome Fiskje. You already speak good Turkish. I made a few corrections. I recommend you to write Turkish texts once a while and post them to forum for correction. Have a nice day. Edited (8/6/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: E > T

961.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Aug 2013 Tue 06:56 pm   Quoting nessah     ?     There are many blonde girls other than you

Thread: turkish to english

962.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Aug 2013 Tue 06:54 pm   Quoting sana_go Can anybody help me? ´Offf hiç halim yok canım sıkılıyor´   I am not in mood. I am so bored. sana_go liked this message

Thread: E to T please my attempt

963.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Aug 2013 Tue 01:36 am   Quoting Inscrutable Bayramında Bayramda Emrah yalnız olacak. (Eşi hastanede olacak) Emrah will be alone on Eid . (His wife will be hospital). Thank you

Thread: If you are pregnant you better stay inside ***news article ***

964.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Aug 2013 Mon 10:47 pm   Quoting Elisabeth         Lol.

Thread: A meaningful German cartoon :)

965.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Aug 2013 Mon 09:47 pm The tail of lion in bandage is so funny.

Thread: A meaningful German cartoon :)

966.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Aug 2013 Mon 09:46 pm

Thread: video watching the streets of Turkey

967.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Aug 2013 Mon 09:09 pm   Quoting Kelowna     you should watch his day 2 to day 5 videos not only great shots of Turkey in his travel but also yummy food.   I did dear. Then I regretted it. I was so hungry.

Thread: If you are pregnant you better stay inside ***news article ***

968.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Aug 2013 Mon 08:22 pm   Quoting Elisabeth It´s so irritating that women have made so many strides toward equality in so many parts of the world...yet there are still men/people who think like this!!    Pregnant women block the way

Thread: Good Tv Shows to reccommend??

969.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Aug 2013 Mon 05:11 am Here is more episodes of Karadayı with English subtitles: http://www.viki.com/tv/10051c-karadayi-season-1 TurkishSoapFan, TheNemanja, madtingx and alameda liked this message

Thread: Good Tv Shows to reccommend??

970.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Aug 2013 Mon 04:55 am   Quoting TurkishSoapFan Thank you! That was so quick         Yep start watching it immediately I will make quiz about it after you watched TurkishSoapFan and TheNemanja liked this message

Thread: Brothels allowed 5000 use daily, Hookers can walk the street but not pregnant woman

971.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Aug 2013 Mon 04:53 am Not my cup of tea.

Thread: Good Tv Shows to reccommend??

972.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Aug 2013 Mon 04:32 am You can watch Kenan´s new Tv series Karadayı.Here is the first episode with English subtitle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KonwRSbJqM TurkishSoapFan liked this message

Thread: video watching the streets of Turkey

973.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Aug 2013 Mon 04:31 am I heard a desperate sound coming from my stomach after I had watched the second video.

Thread: EZEL

974.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Aug 2013 Mon 04:28 am Even uncle Ramiz was confused because Can and Ezel met again in a parallel universe. Edited (8/5/2013) by gokuyum caliptrix, TurkishSoapFan and TheNemanja liked this message

Thread: If you are pregnant you better stay inside ***news article ***

975.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Aug 2013 Mon 01:27 am   Quoting gokuyum So lets keep all women at the home   Always one step forward Edited (8/5/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: If you are pregnant you better stay inside ***news article ***

976.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Aug 2013 Mon 01:26 am So lets keep all women at the home

Thread: If you are pregnant you better stay inside ***news article ***

977.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Aug 2013 Mon 01:22 am   Quoting Kelowna     lol if you saw a women in the dark you would shit yourself too  That is true. Can you imagine my fear when she is pregnant?

Thread: If you are pregnant you better stay inside ***news article ***

978.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Aug 2013 Mon 01:12 am If I saw a pregnant women in the dark, I would shit myself

Thread: If you are pregnant you better stay inside ***news article ***

979.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Aug 2013 Mon 01:09 am   Quoting Kelowna Presence of pregnant women in public is ‘disgraceful,’ says Turkish lawyer ISTANBUL   Ömer Tuğrul İnançer said pregnant women should not wander on the streets. REUTERS Photo Turkish lawyer and Sufi thinker Ömer Tuğrul İnançer has sparked a public outcry after telling state television station TRT 1 that it was immoral for pregnant women with huge bellies to reveal themselves in public.   another part of statement: İnançer also said companies gave maternity leave not so that women could “wander” the streets, but to stay in their homes. http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/presence-of-pregnant-women-in-public-is-disgraceful-says-turkish-lawyer-.aspx?PageID=238&NID=51380&NewsCatID=341   Seems that it is very hard to live in Turkey I see also Taksim was attacked again by police soon you will be able to sell come see a police riot as a tour package ....... He says pregnant women scare other girls and they dont want to be pregnant like them.   madtingx liked this message

Thread: Translation of an English song to Turkish

980.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Aug 2013 Sun 11:32 pm   Quoting Kelowna     we could send you to Mersin or Sanliurfa or city/village of your choice No demand no supply

Thread: Translation of an English song to Turkish

981.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Aug 2013 Sun 11:25 pm   Quoting Kelowna     we could start a charity fund for a bus trip to bodrum for you or one of the other hot spots in Turkiye   Everyone here on TC who thinks Gokuyum deserves  a chance to search for his own little" I don´t speak Turkish but can text in english  summer romance girlfriend " send money to him by paypal for his bus ticket............ Hehehe. I dont think there is need for me in Bodrum

Thread: Translation of an English song to Turkish

982.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Aug 2013 Sun 11:19 pm   Quoting Kelowna   but typical turkish male has mommy till he finds a wife just go into kitchen and start to try she will rescue you...........     Mommy doesnt have enough energy

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983.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Aug 2013 Sun 11:18 pm   Quoting harp00n     Im sure you will find her soon, buddy   Thank you buddy Kelowna liked this message

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984.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Aug 2013 Sun 11:15 pm   Quoting Kelowna gokuyum you are hilarious and for that I found you potato cookies instructions for making can be found here: http://tsukurikata.blogspot.ca/2010/08/potato-medallions.html Hmm looks nice. But I dont have a woman to do it   ikicihan liked this message

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985.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Aug 2013 Sun 09:55 pm   Quoting beautifullies28 I have been listening to songs and this song comes to mind with my situations along with a lot of other posts I read. Also goes along with the big ol´ JEALOUSY word!! If someone could translate it for me, that would be super! Thanks a bunch.   We´re caught in a trap I can´t walk out Because I love you too much baby Bir tuzağa düştük Çıkamıyorum çünkü Seni çok seviyorum bebeğim. Why can´t you see What you´re doing to me   When you don´t believe a word I say? Neden bana ne yaptığını göremiyorsun? Ne zaman sözüme inanacaksın? We can´t go on together   With suspicious minds   And we can´t build our dreams On suspicious minds Bu şüpheli zihinlerimizle birlikte devam edemeyiz Ve şüpheli zihinlere rüyalarımızı inşa edemeyiz. So, if an old friend I know   Drops by to say hello   Would I still see suspicion in your eyes? Eğer tanıdığım eski bir arkadaş Merhaba demek için uğrarsa Gözlerinde hala şüphe mi göreceğim? Here we go again   Asking where I´ve been   You can´t see these tears are real I´m crying   Oh let our love survive Or dry the tears from your eyes Let´s don´t let a good thing die  İşte yine başladık. Nerede olduğumu soruyorsun Bu yaşların sahi olduğunu göremiyorsun Ağlıyorum Bırak ta aşkımız yaşasın Ya da gözyaşlarımı kurut Böyle iyi bir şeyin yok olmasına izin vermeyelim. When honey, you know   I´ve never lied to you Don´t you know I´m caught in a trap Ne zaman tatlım? Sana hiç yalan söylemediğimi biliyorsun. Bilmiyor musun tuzağa düştüm teşekkür ederim!   I want a cookie for my translation By the way I conjugated the verbs I hope this will not be a problem for him Edited (8/4/2013) by gokuyum beautifullies28 liked this message

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986.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Aug 2013 Sun 09:46 pm   Quoting Kelowna hopefully someone can help you with that Elvis song but I found a song most of the Turkish Guys could learn.....   The best things in life are free but you can give them to the birds and bees. I want money THAT´S WHAT I WANT that´s what I want THAT´S WHAT I WANT Your lovin´ give me a thrill but your lovin´ don´t pay my bill. Now gimme money THAT´S WHAT I WANT that´s what I want THAT´S WHAT I WANT (Instrumental) Money don´t get everything it´s true. What it don´t get I can´t use. I want money THAT´S WHAT I WANT   http://youtu.be/W25_jgiY51I   watch out when Goku learns to sing They taught me that song when I was born. But in time I forgot it. After all I am a love man. But I am becoming more pragmatist every day

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987.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Aug 2013 Sun 12:40 pm   Quoting Inscrutable Bir Türk ile tanıştım Rugbyde. A met a Turk in Rugby. Thank you     Rugby´de bir Türk ile tanıştım. Inscrutable liked this message

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988.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Aug 2013 Sat 02:59 am   Quoting Abla The months at the hospital did little to arrest the disease.   (Can aylar be the grammatical subject here?)   Of course it is subject.

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989.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Aug 2013 Fri 05:19 pm   Quoting Inscrutable Allah´ın rızasını için sadece ( Is this sentence formation correct?) Only for the pleasure of Allah. Thank you   Sadece Allah rızası için.

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990.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Aug 2013 Fri 01:54 am I feel alone here. Where is everybody?

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991.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Aug 2013 Fri 01:46 am   Quoting Abla   Thank you, gokuyum.   A single constituent is negated with değil even in this type of sentences so I see. Has -DI been dropped here or is değil indeclinable in this function?                        Orada yalnızca biz ?değil/değiliz öğretmenimiz de var.   Use değil without conjugating it.   Sen yalnızca bize değil onlara da söz verdin. Edited (8/2/2013) by gokuyum

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992.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Aug 2013 Fri 12:02 am Servis yapmak için kim hazır? Inscrutable liked this message

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993.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Aug 2013 Fri 12:02 am   Quoting Inscrutable Hizmet yapmak için kim hazır mı? Who is ready to do the service (serve others)? Thank you   Now my friend kim is the question here. Dont use mı. Inscrutable liked this message

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994.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Aug 2013 Thu 10:30 pm   Quoting Abla "This man is a genius." (in a reference letter)     Bu adam bir dahidir.

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995.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Aug 2013 Thu 10:29 pm   Quoting Abla "There was not only Albert Einstein there but also..."   I want to see if there is değildi or yoktu there.   There was not only Albert Einstein there but also there was Oppenheimer. Orada yalnızca Einstein değil Oppenheimer da vardı.

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996.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Aug 2013 Thu 07:26 pm   Quoting 16lynnepps Live like today is your last day so live the fullest.... CAn someone translate that for me?   Bugün hayatının son günüymüş gibi dolu dolu yaşa.

Thread: How can I finally start speaking turkish?

997.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Aug 2013 Thu 07:25 pm   Quoting rlydick well the problem Im having is I think its because I keep directly translating all the time from English to Turkish. Also when my friends here want to talk to me, they all speak to me in English. Ive gotta get them to stop or Ill never learn. My husband and everyone tries to speak to me in English. I hear turkish all the time 24/7. My understanding of it is getting better and better. However I need to know a way to learn thats quick and fast for me. I have a friend here who learned turkish and was speaking within 6 months. Thats just CRAZY to me. However Ive been here for 9 months and I still cant speak.   My husbands cousin told me the best way to learn a new language is by memorizing sentences. He did that to learn english, and it worked for him. Should I start just by doing that? Or should I start by learning vocabulary?  Try to always speak Turkish with the people around you. That is the best way.

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998.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Aug 2013 Thu 12:10 am   Quoting nessah     u are offline there and online here sometimes too   Okay no problem then.

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999.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Aug 2013 Thu 12:09 am   Quoting nessah     haha why do u think that     You are offline on skype and online here

Thread: Utansin - Help Please

1000.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Aug 2013 Thu 12:08 am   Quoting nessah     hahaha     Why do you laugh at me? Edited (8/1/2013) by gokuyum

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1001.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Aug 2013 Thu 12:07 am   Quoting nessah terk edilen birisine "hayat nasil gidiyor"? diye sorulmaz. cunku zaten tek sorun hayatin devam ediyor olmasidir.     You cant ask someone who is left (by his/her lover) how life is going on. Because the only problem (for him/her) is that life is going on.   Note: So stupid By the way I guess you deleted me Edited (8/1/2013) by gokuyum

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1002.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jul 2013 Wed 11:53 pm I have never heard about Muezza. Thank you for the story.

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1003.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jul 2013 Wed 11:51 pm 1) Yirmili yaşlarının başında 2) Ergenlik yıllarında or ergenlik çağında Edited (7/31/2013) by gokuyum Edited (8/1/2013) by gokuyum tomac liked this message

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1004.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jul 2013 Wed 11:42 pm   Quoting Abla     Could it be   Ey binbir tanede solmayan tek renk; Oh the only color that does not fade among a thousand and one colors     ?   tane is a pronoun here and its correlate is renk. But the correlate is to the right of it which makes it look strange.   I may be wrong of course.   Yes you make a lot of sense I will change it now. I admire your intelligence.

Thread: Utansin - Help Please

1005.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jul 2013 Wed 11:29 pm   Quoting brave5213 I really need the translation of this famous poem, if someone can help, it would be great   Utansın / Necip Fazıl Kısakürek Tohum saç, bitmezse toprak utansın!  Hedefe varmayan mızrak utansın!  Scatter seeds, if they dont grow, let the soil be ashamed Let the spear which doesnt reach to its target be ashamed. Hey gidi küheylan, koşmana bak sen!  Çatlarsan, doğuran kısrak utansın!  O Arabian horse, you just concentrate on your running If you exhaust, let the mare gave you birth be ashamed. Eski çınar şimdi noel ağacı;  Dallarda iğreti yaprak utansın!  Old plane tree is now a noel tree Let the leafs which already dont look good on the branches be ashamed Ustada kalırsa bu öksüz yapı,  Onu sürdürmeyen çırak utansın!  If this unfinished structure stops where the master left it Let the apprentice who doesnt go on be ashamed Ölümden ilerde varış dediğin,  Geride ne varsa bırak utansın!  What you called arrival is ahead of death Let what remains back be ashamed Ey binbir tanede solmayan tek renk;  Bayraklaşamıyorsan bayrak utansın! O the only color that doesnt fade among a thousand and one colors If you cant be a flag, let the flag be ashamed     Edited (7/31/2013) by gokuyum Edited (7/31/2013) by gokuyum Edited (7/31/2013) by gokuyum Edited (7/31/2013) by gokuyum Edited (7/31/2013) by gokuyum Edited (7/31/2013) by gokuyum Edited (7/31/2013) by gokuyum Abla liked this message

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1006.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jul 2013 Wed 11:15 pm   Quoting brave5213 I really need the translation of this famous poem, if someone can help, it would be great   Utansın / Necip Fazıl Kısakürek Tohum saç, bitmezse toprak utansın!  Hedefe varmayan mızrak utansın!  Hey gidi küheylan, koşmana bak sen!  Çatlarsan, doğuran kısrak utansın!  Eski çınar şimdi noel ağacı;  Dallarda iğreti yaprak utansın!  Ustada kalırsa bu öksüz yapı,  Onu sürdürmeyen çırak utansın!  Ölümden ilerde varış dediğin,  Geride ne varsa bırak utansın!  Ey binbir tanede solmayan tek renk;  Bayraklaşamıyorsan bayrak utansın!   Okay now I will try to translate it.

Thread: Turk´s opinion about pets inside

1007.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jul 2013 Wed 07:02 pm As you said Islam considers dog as a filthy animal and I should mention Islam really gives big importance to hygiene.   If you dont pay attention to hygiene you will be even punished for it:   He should be careful to remove all impurity after answering the call of nature, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) warned against being careless in cleaning oneself after urinating: “Most of the punishment of the grave will be because of urine.” (Reported by Ibn Maajah, 342; see also Saheeh al-Jaami’, 1202). Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with them both) reported that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) passed by two graves, and said: “They are being punished, but they are not being punished for any major sin. One of them used not to protect himself (i.e. keep himself clean from) his urine, and the other used to walk about spreading malicious gossip.” (Reported by al-Bukhaari, 5592). raabya malik liked this message

Thread: Can ´diye´ Modify a Noun...

1008.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jul 2013 Wed 06:57 pm   Quoting Abla ...and any noun?                       ?yarın gelebilirim diye bir telefon çağrısı                     ?seni seviyorum diye bir mektup                     ?neden bunları yaşamalıyım diye bir düşünce                     ?bunu satın al diye bir reklam Yep

Thread: A Turkish husband

1009.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jul 2013 Wed 12:41 am   Quoting Kelowna     but do you have money for icecream No need for it. I am the most delicious ice cream

Thread: What´s your favorite town / city in Turkey ?

1010.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jul 2013 Wed 12:15 am   Quoting harp00n     Hani bana ?  Sana Allah versin dermişim

Thread: What´s your favorite town / city in Turkey ?

1011.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jul 2013 Wed 12:15 am   Quoting foka     im not eating cookies ...but thanks   I can give you carrot foka liked this message

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1012.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jul 2013 Wed 12:03 am   Quoting foka     Not enough important reason to visit then     I can bake you some cookies if you come to visit me

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1013.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jul 2013 Tue 11:52 pm   Quoting foka     Wasn`t there yet so dont know how is Samsun   All you need to know about Samsun is I live there

Thread: Send me something to correct or translate

1014.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jul 2013 Tue 11:48 pm   Quoting harp00n     Ama hala "tık" yok sende badi, ne zaman çevireceksin ?   Hehehe. Valla şimşek gibiyim ben. Birkaç mesaj önceye git, çevirdiğimi göreceksin

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1015.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jul 2013 Tue 11:46 pm   Quoting Nadya.      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmberF4l1nU   Hmm. I wonder if I behave like him too. I hope not Nadya. liked this message

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1016.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jul 2013 Tue 11:43 pm   Quoting harp00n     Yok badi, seni görevlendirmiş necla, ne diyeyim ben ?   Evet beni bu göreve kararname ile atadı

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1017.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jul 2013 Tue 11:41 pm   Quoting foka after Istanbul...IZMIR   What about Samsun? Braidylach liked this message

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1018.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jul 2013 Tue 11:40 pm I can hold myself three days. I am shy beautifullies28 liked this message

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1019.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jul 2013 Tue 10:43 pm   Quoting harp00n     Badim, hadi çevir   Öyle dedin ki harpoon sanki 900 lü hatları çevir der gibi Edited (7/30/2013) by gokuyum

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1020.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jul 2013 Tue 10:42 pm   Quoting necla ´´Sınıfa girin ve yerinize oturun. Beni dikkatli dinleyin.´´   Çok kolay, ama anlamadım.   Teşekkürler Gokuyum   Enter the class and sit down to your place. Listen to me carefully.   What didnt you understand necla?

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1021.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jul 2013 Tue 10:39 pm Find a man from your country if you dont want to take a risk. Kelowna liked this message

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1022.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jul 2013 Tue 08:45 pm   Quoting Kelowna   Dear Gokuyum why do you make these posts about you and feel the need to refute them with your own personal examples. There is more than one Turk on this website or are you using many names ...........????   You know I like the attention.Actually the reason is that I am just bored. I want to fight for you for fun

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1023.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jul 2013 Tue 06:46 pm Modest means modest They are still modest even if they are smart.

Thread: some notes about - ip

1024.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jul 2013 Tue 06:41 pm   Quoting Kelowna Banyo yapacağım ve saçlarımı yıkayacağım. You can just say: Banyo yapıp ve saçlarımı yıkayacağım.   Dont use "ve" after -ip suffix. Kelowna liked this message

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1025.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jul 2013 Tue 05:43 pm I want a village girl to marry. I cant deal with city girls. Many of them are so stupid but they dont even know it. At least village girls are modest

Thread: E to T Funny sayings

1026.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jul 2013 Tue 05:41 pm Hurricanes create so much noise and lightning. That is why you cant find peace in them

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1027.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jul 2013 Tue 12:57 pm   Quoting milva thank you very much! I have one more question; does this "iyiki varsın" always mean present tense(now)? how could I say this in past tense? somehow "vardın" doesn´t sound good in my ears   It is an idiom. Dont change it.

Thread: Send me something to correct or translate

1028.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jul 2013 Tue 12:55 pm   Quoting Cagdas Ok so here is a sentence that is waiting for correcting : ´Burada yapılacak çok şey ler var´

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

1029.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jul 2013 Tue 03:46 am   Quoting TheNemanja Inspector:Mr Russell was blackmailing you,wasn’t he,Miss Twian.What was your little secret? Ursula:I... I... Inspector:You spent some time in prison,didn’t you? For robbery,wasn’t it,Miss Twain? Ursula:Yes,all right. I killed him. Fiona was right. He was a monster,I’m glad he’s dead. Inspector:Ursula Twain,I’m arresting you for the murder of John Russell.Take here away,Constable.Take her away,Constable.And only her fingerprints were found on the gun. Later Constable:But how did you know that it wasn’t Miss May? It looked so clear...She had a motive.She threatened to kill him. And only her fingerprints were found on the gun. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Müffetiş: Russell bey size şantaj yapıyordu,değil mi,Twain hanım? Sizin küçük sırınız neydi? Ursula:Ben... ben... Müffetiş:Siz biraz zaman hapiste biraz zaman harcadınız,değil mi? Soygun için,değil mi,Twain hanım? Ursula:Evet,tamam,ben öldürdüm.Fiona haklıymış.Canavardı,onun öldüğüne çok sevindim. Müffetiş:Ursula Twain,sizi ,John Russell´i öldürdüğünüz için, tututkluyorum.Götürün onu,polis memuru. Sonra Polis memuru: Ama May hanımın suçu olmadığını nereden biliyordunuz? O kadar açık görünüyordu ki...Güdüsüydü. Bir nedeni vardı. Onu öldürmekle tehdit etti.Ve tabancada ki sadece onun parmak izini bulundu. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I´m sorry if it was too bad,my apology,but it was the hottest day in this year,and it´s 1:51 and it´s 33C. =)   Very good. TheNemanja liked this message

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1030.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jul 2013 Tue 02:47 am I like disgusting relationships. So much fun

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1031.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jul 2013 Tue 02:39 am I am bored. But keep it short

Thread: Turkish to English

1032.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jul 2013 Mon 09:11 pm   Quoting Kelowna     keep it up dear  was a great start   Dont be so picky It was a typo. Edited (7/29/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: The Most Beautiful Turkish Word

1033.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jul 2013 Mon 08:12 pm   Quoting kashf-ul-eman     My favourite word is " Gurusuruz " & evet also  i like to use them again again.. i wish  i can    You mean görüşürüz?

Thread: Turkish to English

1034.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jul 2013 Mon 08:11 pm   Quoting Kelowna     goku goku now I know why you are having trouble finding your trophy girlfriend you need to practise not being able to communicate better than they can in english. my suggestions are for you to practise so they can feel they are making a difference in your life. first lesson: start your messages like this and you will be so happy very soon halo butiful do you have cam so we can be togetter I am alredy missing you halo my butiful you are bery portant to me I think you every time I wake I get lonely when we are not togetter you are angel  god make me believe now  in angels and you are my angel I want to give you my life and everything I have. halo butiful today I think you and I think how wood our children look and what names we give them hallo today I get sad cuz you did not come fast to me and I sit here all day waiting for you   you will have her eating your words soon enough Goku   good luck Thank you for shwoing me what I am doing wrong dear. I appreciate it

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1035.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jul 2013 Mon 06:43 pm çiş

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1036.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jul 2013 Mon 06:23 pm   Quoting beautifullies28 Hahaha. It´s like the everyday American slang talk, everything is out of proper sentence order. I didn´t finish primary school. I think I speak very well. I think. You speak good. The problems is his Turkish sucks. I think he speaks like this on purpose. I think he think you can understand the sentences better if he doesnt conjugate the verbs.

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1037.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jul 2013 Mon 05:57 pm It is like speaking English like this:   To want to go to cinema. To want to come with me? To be fun. Come on, to go. To not to love me? Then why not to come to cinema?  Not to make me upset. Not to break my heart. To disappoint me you.     elenagabriela liked this message

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1038.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jul 2013 Mon 05:50 pm   Quoting beautifullies28 Sen hayatımın. en önemli varlığısın fakat her geçen gün umutlar azalıyor   Ama senin için herşey. Çok güzel herşey yolunda biz çok mutlu sen böyle düşüyorsun Biz kavga nedeni budur Biraz reel olmak gerekli   ilk önce ağustos Sonra eylül sonra ekim sonra kasım Şimdi de yeni bir işe sen başladın Bu durumda güzel olan ne Bu yüzden susmak ve beklemek benim için en hayırlısı olmak   I will commit suicide. There is no Turkish like this. He should learn Turkish before English. hestia86 and elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: Funny Turkish Sayings

1039.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jul 2013 Mon 02:06 am Bahtsız bedeviyi çölde kutup ayısı öper. Even a polar bear kisses an unfortunate Bedouin (nomadic Arab) in the desert.

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1040.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jul 2013 Mon 02:00 am Kargaya bokun ilaç demişler gitmiş denizin ortasına sıçmış. They said a crow that its shit is a medicine, it went and shitted in the middle of the sea.   Edited (7/29/2013) by gokuyum

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1041.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jul 2013 Mon 01:45 am Kedi götünü görmüş bu yara beni öldürür demiş. A cat saw its ass and said this wound was gonna kill me.   Edited (7/29/2013) by gokuyum Edited (7/29/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Turk´s opinion about pets inside

1042.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jul 2013 Mon 12:29 am   Quoting kine So what is the general opinion about pets like dogs and cats inside houses in Turkey? I heard Turks find it disgusting and will only keep dogs outside.    My mother doesnt let me have cat at home. I will run away and live on the streets with them.

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1043.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jul 2013 Sun 10:37 pm Emptyness = boşluk rumeysa liked this message

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1044.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jul 2013 Sun 09:06 pm Actually most of the time when we are confused we just say "aklım karıştı"

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1045.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jul 2013 Sun 05:14 pm   Quoting beautifullies28     Which part??  Bold part

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1046.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jul 2013 Sun 05:13 pm   Quoting Inscrutable Zihini karışdım- I was confused - Zihnim karıştı (You can think this as present perfect tense too. Action started in the past and still going on) Zihini bulandım - I was confused - Zihnim bulandı (You can think this as present perfect tense too. Action started in the past and still going on) Zihini karışrım I´m confused - Zihnim karışık Zihini bulanrım I´m confused.- Zihnim bulanık Thank you     Inscrutable and TheNemanja liked this message

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1047.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jul 2013 Sun 05:09 pm   Quoting Inscrutable How can you say " Keep in touch" Thank you   Temasta kal.

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1048.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jul 2013 Sun 05:09 pm   Quoting Inscrutable How do say "until" such we arwe staying here "until" tomorrow.   Thank you     We are staying here until tomorrow. Yarına kadar burada kalıyoruz.   TheNemanja liked this message

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1049.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jul 2013 Sun 09:29 am   Quoting beautifullies28 This is the thing I´ve lived by. "We all wear masks. It Up to us to see not be blinded by the mask but see the real person behind it" Needless to say. Someone can be sweet and then the mask comes off and not so much. It someone can be mean and mask comes off and they´re really sweet.  I´ve noticed a lot of similarities lately with Turkish men and American men., yet also English men. I think men are men, some just have higher values and morals in life than others. I´ve met some really awesome people from Turkey, or well, I have talked to some really awesome guys from Turkey and I have talked to some really pig-headed jerks. I have talked to some really nice women and some really rude women. It´s not just men. My boyfriend seems to have this belief that all women just want money and materials. And he is Turkish and lives in Turkey so I am guessing he has been with some not so nice women. Which means women can be just as awful as men. Not me of course, I´m pretty awesome!!   We all wear them, some wear natural masks some wear fake masks. IIt´s all a matter of how stupid we ar3 not to see the truth then again people can really wear them well. Shame on them.  This reply was pointless now that I think about it. But since I wrote all this out...... Is it me?

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1050.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jul 2013 Sun 12:56 am   Quoting Kelowna     Really......why do so many try to hook up with foreign girls and try to leave the country. I have never wanted such a thing in my life.

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1051.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jul 2013 Sun 12:07 am Turkey is a heaven.

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1052.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jul 2013 Sat 11:20 pm Your explanation was completely wrong. So I thought you were a learner.

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1053.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jul 2013 Sat 10:28 pm   Quoting TheNemanja     10000000000000000000000000000000$   So much money. That is why you defend that witch TheNemanja liked this message

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1054.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jul 2013 Sat 10:08 pm Why do you always defend Nessah Nemanja? How much money did she give to you?

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1055.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jul 2013 Sat 10:03 pm   Quoting nessah crazy people are fun at least     I am a proud crazy person

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1056.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jul 2013 Sat 10:02 pm   Quoting TheNemanja     In a good way   Nessah is crazy both in a good and bad way

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1057.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jul 2013 Sat 09:56 pm   Quoting TheNemanja   thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you -For your collection.   Ah happy to hear it. I thought you lost your mind  By the way I have a great symphaty for crazy people. For example Nessah   Edited (7/27/2013) by gokuyum

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1058.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jul 2013 Sat 09:36 pm It doesnt mean that I am not hapy: Bu mutlu değilim demek değil. TheNemanja liked this message

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1059.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jul 2013 Sat 07:37 pm To be, or not to be: that is the question: Whether ´tis nobler in the mind to suffer The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, Or to take arms against a sea of troubles, And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep; No more; and by a sleep to say we end .... Shakespeare Inscrutable liked this message

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1060.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jul 2013 Sat 07:01 pm 8 to go. I am a post machine.

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1061.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jul 2013 Sat 01:38 pm   Quoting gamzicc if you ask yes -no  question, you should use mi structure before the verb   It is always a yes-no question when you use mi. So there is no need to use it before the verb unless you want to emphasize something. Edited (7/27/2013) by gokuyum

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1062.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jul 2013 Sat 12:15 pm   Quoting gamzicc     you should be patient for big thanks at last you got what you want for your collection   I want more. I will wait for your contribution to my collection

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1063.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jul 2013 Sat 12:22 am   Quoting Kelowna     hmmm this is not going to work.......... for a few reasons, you can communicate, you are not a scum bucket, and your are way to nice maybe we should try to get a few dudu´s on here to give you tips on how to be a jerk I am an angel   beautifullies28 liked this message

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1064.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jul 2013 Sat 12:20 am Çok şey öğrendim geçen üç yıl boyunca Balkona yorgun çamaşırlar asmayı Ki uçlarından çile damlardı. Güneşte nane kurutmayı Ben acılarımın başını evcimen telaşlarla okşadım bayım. Bir pardösüm bile oldu içinde kaybolduğum. İnsan kaybolmayı ister mi?  Ben işte istedim bayım. Uzaklara gittim Uzaklar sana gelmez, sen uzaklara gidersin Uzaklar seni ister, bak uzaklar da aşktan anlar bayım   I have learnt a lot of things in these three years To hang tired laundries on the balcony Suffering would drip from their tips To dry mint under the sun I caressed my pains´ heads with domestic hastinesses I even had a topcoat which I got lost in it Would anyone want to get lost? But I wanted my sir I went to distant places Distant places dont come to you, you go to them. Distant places want you and look even they understand love my sir. Edited (7/27/2013) by gokuyum noha naim liked this message

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1065.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jul 2013 Sat 12:04 am   Quoting Kelowna   ok ladies here is the guy to take your chances with. He gets extra points for speaking and reading english. Send him a pm and introduce yourself.   Also I write romantic English poems

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1066.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jul 2013 Fri 11:57 pm   Quoting Kelowna   not all bad relationships involve turkish men but lets just use them for this example Ladies what is in your head when you decide to fall in love and get married to some foreign guy who barely can speak your language. Many here on TC are from meeting some  guy on holidays. You don´t really get to know them properly. Internet/long distance after your holiday can actually cheat you out of a real relationship. The time spent is always staged it is not occuring in real life. You don´t see how the person interacts with friends, family, public situations. Did they work before you decided to marry them. Did they let you know their true friends and family. Were there huge cultural differences in lifestyle. Even 2 people living in the same country with same culture have difficulties keeping a marriage healthy. So to blame Turks  for failure really isn´t necessary. Blame yourself for allowing yourself to not see all the red flags as to why the relationship won´t work in the first place. you wouldn´t make kitchen curtains out of a pair old smelly old socks, so why make a husband out of someone who´s family doesn´t understand you , may or may not be able to communicate with you in language you are familar with and who´s culture style of living is so different it is like stepping onto a different planet. Lets add the difficulty if they are not educated enough to get a job in the country you decide to live with including yourself.  If you want to be a door mat for all their problems go ahead, but don´t complain about it. Not all Turkish guys are bad but marriage itself will bring out the worse in most people because everyday life is not a holiday. If you want to marry a Turk go live in Turkey for a  year first on your own, than marry one same as if you want to marry a Turk in your country make them live there for a few year on their own first  to get settled, find a job, and stop blamining you for all their bad times in your country.     I would be a great Turkish husband. And I come with 1 year guarantee and %20 discount. Dont miss this special offer. Hurry up. Call 1999888654. In three days I will be at your door. Edited (7/26/2013) by gokuyum Kelowna liked this message

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1067.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jul 2013 Fri 11:51 pm I leave you with your questions

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1068.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jul 2013 Fri 11:37 pm   Quoting elenagabriela why..   You will not have to deal with me

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1069.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jul 2013 Fri 11:34 pm   Quoting elenagabriela     olsun   I guess that is good news for you

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1070.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jul 2013 Fri 11:25 pm   Quoting lida83     second one , but ´´ Coğununa Tayyıp adını  koyuldu ´´ Adı vermek = adı koymak ( it´s even better)   Lida I dont want to be rude but you dont have enough knowledge to talk about Turkish grammar. Dont confuse learners. At least mention that you are a learner too.   Çocuğuna Tayyip adını koyuldu.  This sentence is wrong.   If you want it to be a passive sentence: It is "Çocuğa Tayyip adı kondu" If you want it to be an active sentence: It is " Çocuğuna Tayyip adını koydu"

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1071.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jul 2013 Fri 08:36 pm   Quoting elenagabriela maalesef ben iyi aşçi değilim..   Then you lost your chance

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1072.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jul 2013 Fri 08:35 pm   Quoting Abla If you want to get the proper names right K´s and B´s and Z´s are not enough because in Turkish the endings will be attached to them according to some phonetical rules which you might not know (or maybe you do?). And what is the use of being so cautious anyway, they are just given names and names of places, the real identities of people should be safe anyway...just wondering.   It is not the first time I pay attention to this code language in translation requests.   Anyway, with the help of our translators I am sure you will get it done.   I really dont understand people. Why is all this secracy? You dont save the world.

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1073.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jul 2013 Fri 07:37 pm   Quoting elenagabriela They look good. Do you know how to make them?

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1074.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jul 2013 Fri 03:15 pm   Quoting noha naim even all my friends thank you for your consern    I will translate a few parts of it later for your good words. But now I feel so sleepy. noha naim liked this message

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1075.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jul 2013 Fri 03:06 pm   Quoting noha naim hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.......... i did not see it until today........now i thanke you 10000000000000000000000000 time ....hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh   Good girl noha naim liked this message

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1076.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jul 2013 Fri 02:11 pm I will send a representitve. rumeysa liked this message

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1077.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jul 2013 Fri 11:41 am   Quoting elenagabriela       Yeah a good piece to add to the collection Thank you dear.

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1078.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jul 2013 Fri 11:39 am   Quoting Umut_Umut     How can i explain?   You can compare its taste with a desert better known. I can get an idea that way

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1079.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jul 2013 Fri 11:37 am   Quoting Elisabeth   You are truly evil!     Am I? I dont know.

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1080.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jul 2013 Fri 11:35 am   Quoting gamzicc     hahaha lol  ... maybe its time to retire   Hey you have just come and already want me to retire. Women are so cruel I love to be thanked. I want to have a big "thank you" collection. And all the missing "thank you" s make me angry Edited (7/26/2013) by gokuyum

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1081.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jul 2013 Fri 02:18 am   Quoting beautifullies28 That´s the first time I have heard this. (People tend to laugh at me and not with me.) Hey there is a first time for everything!   Yeah I hope so

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1082.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jul 2013 Fri 12:19 am   Quoting beautifullies28     Thats a good way to sugar coat it.   Never. Your speed is realy good. beautifullies28 liked this message

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1083.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jul 2013 Thu 11:55 pm   Quoting beautifullies28     Oh, no doubt about that. That´s okay, sarcasm is fun, specially when the person is a little "slow," like me for example. You are not slow I am too fast

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1084.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jul 2013 Thu 11:53 pm When I translated something I expect a thank you. Maybe I am too egoist. May God forgive me But  I think that some people consider us as their servants who have to translate whatever they send. So they dont condescend to say even a simple thank you. I note those people. Beware of my rage. Edited (7/25/2013) by gokuyum Edited (7/26/2013) by gokuyum Edited (7/26/2013) by gokuyum

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1085.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jul 2013 Thu 11:44 pm   Quoting noha naim thank you very much   When I dont translate you thank me when I translate you dont even care. It is so weird noha naim, elenagabriela and TheNemanja liked this message

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1086.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jul 2013 Thu 11:38 pm   Quoting beautifullies28 I believe that!     P.S. No sarcasm intended. But you know there is always a sarcasm in my words

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1087.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jul 2013 Thu 10:45 pm   Quoting beautifullies28 Oh my goodness. I should get out my kleenex....im not sure if ill be crying or  laughing!!! ..   I am a good teacher. You will not regret

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1088.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jul 2013 Thu 10:12 pm   Quoting beautifullies28 Wait...Axe. oh, oops I meant flowers. There is no Axe!! I miss spoke.    Ah that is better. Open the door I am coming then.

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1089.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jul 2013 Thu 09:29 pm   Quoting beautifullies28 Too risky??! I know I´m scary but that axe behind my back is harmless. I swear.    Axe? For what?

Thread: Ramadan Foods and Drinks

1090.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jul 2013 Thu 07:07 pm   Quoting Kelowna     I guess you should go into your kitchen and start taking out the ingredients I listed and make lots of noise and mess, your mother will run in and save the kitchen by making the desert for you    That is an idea

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1091.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jul 2013 Thu 06:53 pm   Quoting Kelowna     don´t you have a mother?   My mother is so bored of me. I dont think she would do a desert for me

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1092.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jul 2013 Thu 06:44 pm Would you do it for me? I am hopeless. gamzicc liked this message

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1093.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jul 2013 Thu 06:34 pm   Quoting beautifullies28 Looking to get these quotes translated.....   "The minute I heard my first love story, I started looking for you, not knowing how blind that was. Lovers don´t finally meet somewhere. They´re in each other all along.” İlk aşk hikayemi duyduğum zaman seni bu yaptığımın ne kadar körce olduğunu bilmeden aramaya başladım. Aşıklar sonunda bir yerlerde buluşmazlar. Onlar herzaman birbirlerinin içindedir.   “When I am with you, we stay up all night. When you´re not here, I can´t go to sleep. Praise God for those two insomnias! And the difference between them." Seninle birlikteyken tüm gece ayaktayız. Sen yokken uyuyamıyorum. Bu iki uykusuzluk için de Allah´a şükürler olsun. Ve onların arasındaki fark için de.   “silence is the language of god, all else is poor translation.” Sessizlik Allah´ın  dilidir. Gerei kalan herşey sadece kötü bir çeviridir.   “Words are a pretext. It is the inner bond that draws one person to another, not words.” Sözcükler sadece bahanedir. Bir insanı diğerine çeken sözcükler değil aralarındaki içsel bağdır. “If you are irritated by every rub, how will your mirror be polished?” Eğer her sürtünmeden iğreniyorsan, aynanı nasıl parlatacaksın? I liked this one     Also (no translation needed for this next sentence. ) if anyone has time I am having trouble keeping focus on my own, someone to teach me Turkish more one on one would be super awesome. One on one is too risky That and I am a little ashamed of previous posts of mine that I had forgotten about and would prefer to know this stuff myself. teşekkür ederim         Edited (7/25/2013) by gokuyum

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1094.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jul 2013 Thu 06:25 pm   Quoting Umut_Umut In Mersin Kerebiç is very famous in Ramazan.          How does it taste?

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1095.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jul 2013 Thu 02:42 pm I hate how some people charge extra money for everything from tourists. They take advantage of tourists absent knowledge about prices in Turrkey. They charge them 2 times to 10 times higher prices than the normal price. These kind of pepople have no shame. You cant deal with them with sweet words I dont say that hotel is the same. But mentioning legal sanctions can make them take you serious.

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1096.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jul 2013 Thu 02:31 pm   Quoting Abla Sorry to interfere but as a former communication teacher I always recommend positive approach. Simply because it gives better results. Even if the issue is annoying. Even if you think the receiver has done the mistake in purpose I would give the impression that it must have been a regrettable lapse and that I am sure they would be most willing to correct it as soon as possible because from what you have seen they always work in a very responsible way and blaablaaabblaaa...   They know you are not going to just forget it. They know there will be consequences. You don´t have to tell them that. If there is no result then you can start giving due dates and threatening with legal actions.   And of course it is up to you. Just my thoughts. You could deal with me that way. Because I have shame. But some people doesnt even have a piece of it. It is best to be formal and strict.   Edited (7/25/2013) by gokuyum Abla liked this message

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1097.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jul 2013 Thu 11:25 am   Quoting Scott88 What are the Turkish TV channels that broadcast in English? Thx!    I dont think we have one. Scott88 liked this message

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1098.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jul 2013 Thu 11:24 am   Quoting impulse         But maybe it is not a good but a cat or a dog? So you can use "ona iyi bakacağını biliyorum" etc...  It is not limited to one kind of translation from my point of view       That makes sense if it is not an object.

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1099.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jul 2013 Thu 11:20 am   Quoting ikicihan why dont you try the nearest dam, sweet water and might be cleaner than the beaches and pools. in my city many people go to dams to swim. but be careful, dangerous! Use a long tie tied to your waist so that in an emergency your friends pull you out of the water! They cant act like safeguards cus they may drown too.   Dam is far away and it is dangerous. I dont want to swim with chains. They already chain me every day and I am sick of it

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1100.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jul 2013 Thu 11:17 am   Quoting elenagabriela     I didnt know you love me that much   elenagabriela liked this message

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1101.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jul 2013 Thu 11:06 am   Quoting tomkubus Merhaba, i have one problem with hotel in Izmir, i stayed one night, but my credit card was charged twice, can someone please help to translate me this short mail into turkish? Thank you so much!   "I stayed in your hotel for 1 night on 21st of July together with my family - 4 people in 2 rooms - reservation number 780118714. After I checked my bank account, I found out that the payment was deducted 2 times - first time 11th of July - 51,42 EUR and second time on 22nd of July - 50,69 EUR. As you can see in the attachment this payment was deducted for the second time without any reason and therefore I would like to ask you to return my 50 EUR back to my account as soon as possible, otherwise I will take further actions." 21 Temmuz´da ailemle birlikte otelinizde 1 gece kaldım - 4 kişi 2 odada - rezervasyon numarası 780118714 Banka hesabımı kontrol ederken, 2 kez ödeme alındığını gördüm - İlki 11 Temmuzda - 51,43 Euro ve ikincisi 22 Temmuzda -50,69 Euro. Ekte göreceğiniz gibi hiçbir sebep olmadan bu ödeme ikinci kez alınmış. Bu yüzden en yakın zamanda 50 Euromu banka hesabıma iade etmenizi istiyorum. Aksi halde hukuki yaptırımlara başvuracağım.   Note. I interpreted "further actions" as "legal sanctions" and translated it that way.     Edited (7/25/2013) by gokuyum

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1102.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jul 2013 Thu 10:55 am   Quoting nasaust Well excuse my rudeness and thank you for your drink offer. I would really like anything you are offering especially since I am at work and a nice alcoholic drink makes the day go quicker! Sorry to question the translator but are you sure this is correct?   I know you will look after it. >> Ona sahip çıkacağını biliyorum.   Nasreen   Sorry I dont use alcohol. I think this is my only good habit But I can offer you other drinks. Now I dont know why he translated it like that. I dont see a problem with harpoon´s translation.

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1103.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jul 2013 Thu 12:44 am Here comes another part. Allah’la samimi oldum geçen üç yıl boyunca Havı dökülmüş yerlerine yüzümün Büyük bir aşk yamadım Hayır Yüzüme nur inmedi, yüzüm nura indi bayım Gözyaşlarım bitse tesbih tanelerim vardı Tesbih tanelerim bitse göz yaşlarım... Saydım, insanın doksan dokuz tane yalnızlığı vardı. Aşk diyorsunuz ya Ben istemenin allahını bilirim bayım   I have been very close with Allah in these three years I patched a big love To the parts of my face whose piles had been fallen No No divine light came down to my face, my face came down to divine light I had beads if I wouldnt have no more tears I had tears if I wouldnt have no more beads I had counted there were 99 loneliness of human You say love I know the most extreme way of wanting it my sir.   Edited (7/25/2013) by gokuyum noha naim liked this message

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1104.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jul 2013 Thu 12:30 am I will translate the first part of it for sport. I am full of energy tonight   Siz Aşktan N´anlarsınız Bayım What would you understand from love my sir? (Answer is nothing)   Çok şey öğrendim geçen üç yıl boyunca Alt katında uyumayı bir ranzanın Üst katında çocukluğum... Kağıttan gemiler yaptım kalbimden Ki hiçbiri karşıya ulaşmazdı. Aşk diyorsunuz,  limanı olanın aşkı olmaz ki bayım! I have learned a lot of things in these three years To sleep on the first floor of a bunk bed On top floor my childhood I made paper ships from my heart Which none of them would reach to the shore You say love One who has a port cant have love my sir. noha naim liked this message

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1105.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 11:55 pm   Quoting Kelowna     first time in a tub right.............   It was a great exprience

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1106.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 11:49 pm   Quoting Kelowna http://youtu.be/7jMkDInWl6I   . That is me

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1107.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 11:40 pm samsun the city of me Edited (7/24/2013) by gokuyum

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1108.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 10:50 pm 8 August is the first day of Ramadan eid. canimarab liked this message

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1109.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 10:45 pm   Quoting Abla Gelsene.   If you cook traditional Finnish meals for me why not?

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1110.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 10:43 pm   Quoting Abla To put it in short: I think people should be free to move across borders just like capital and goods move. It is an important political goal. The pressure is growing. European populations are aging fast and have high aged dependency ratios. Turkey as a young nation has what Europe needs. I think free movement will be reality but not in the near future, the counter arguments are still strong.   I find it embarassing that Europe closes its borders from the rest of the world.   Would you like me to be in your country?

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1111.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 10:34 pm   Quoting Abla I think dates  -  hurma  -  is the only Prophetic Ramadan food tradition. It is sunnah to cut your fast with dates. If dates are not available water is recommended. I hope everyone tasted hurma here

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1112.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 10:29 pm Su (water): You should taste it gamzicc liked this message

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1113.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 10:25 pm Hurma: I like hurma a lot.

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1114.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 10:23 pm Ramazan Pidesi: I like it with eggs in it.

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1115.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 10:21 pm Atom: It is too sweet for my taste.       Edited (7/24/2013) by gokuyum

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1116.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 09:41 pm   Quoting Kelowna kuvette pisi   I am a big pisi.

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1117.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 09:33 pm   Quoting Kelowna     do you want a going away party like gokoyum wants ?   Bring some cookies. beautifullies28 liked this message

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1118.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 09:27 pm   Quoting Kelowna hemen hemen ayni   Pisi beats puss. Turkish power

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1119.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 09:21 pm Click here:   TheNemanja and Abla liked this message

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1120.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 08:56 pm   Quoting Elisabeth      You must be the "spoiled child" of the bunch then!   We are all spoiled children. Ah damn we intellectuals! Edited (7/24/2013) by gokuyum elenagabriela liked this message

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1121.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 08:51 pm   Quoting Kelowna     sour milk for the sour puss  I am not a puss. I am a pisi.

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1122.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 08:40 pm   Quoting Elisabeth There is plenty of room for all of our Turkish intellectuals in Turkish Language Class. There is no need to fight for a place in our hearts...we love you all.    I want to be loved more.

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1123.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 08:35 pm   Quoting Milah Would be very grateful if someone could translate the follow:   Merhaba sizi de rahatsız ediyorum ya senin yanına gelmek istiyorum hem babalık hem annelik hem abilik et bana senin yanına da yaşamak istiyorum bu türkiye de kurtulmak istiyorum ne olur lütfen beni kurtar bu hayattan !!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Thanks in advance, Milah   Hi. Sorry I am disturbing you. I want to come to you. I want you to be my father, my mother, my brother. I want to live with you. I want to get rid of Turkey. Please save me from this life.   Note: Here you go! Good luck.

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1124.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 08:30 pm   Quoting gokuyum I live in Samsun. And we have Black Sea here. But it is so polluted it is forbidden to swim in the sea. But despite the ban some people swim in it and they mutate. I dont want to mutate because I am too pretty for it so I dont swim in the sea. I dont like going to pools. Because I know people pee in it when they swim and I dont want to swallow their urine. All these years I couldnt learn how to swim because of these problems. I dont know how I can learn swimming? Maybe someone can teach me how to swim in her bathtub. Thank you. Nessah thinks I really mean what I say here. If you think so, dont worry I already know it is not possible to swim in a bathtub. Please feel safe in your bathtubs.

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1125.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 08:27 pm   Quoting Abla You are slowly but surely climbing up the all time active users´ list, gokuyum. The first real challenge for your is going to be AlphaF. I don´t think he will give up without a fight.   Alpha F is a very important Turkish intellectual like handsome. I adore him. I will make a break when I get close to him. I cant pass him. That would be disrespectful.

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1126.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 06:54 pm I want a big good bye party.

Thread: I want to learn swimming

1127.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 06:48 pm   Quoting TheNemanja     Do you have any pool? PS: Do people really mutate ?  I dont even have a bathtub only shower. Yes they mutate and they hunt us at nights and eat us alive.   Edited (7/24/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: toğa çorbesi

1128.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 06:43 pm   Quoting elenagabriela     yok be...değilsin   Are you bad?

Thread: I want to learn swimming

1129.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 06:41 pm I live in Samsun. And we have Black Sea here. But it is so polluted it is forbidden to swim in the sea. But despite the ban some people swim in it and they mutate. I dont want to mutate because I am too pretty for it so I dont swim in the sea. I dont like going to pools. Because I know people pee in it when they swim and I dont want to swallow their urine. All these years I couldnt learn how to swim because of these problems. I dont know how I can learn swimming? Maybe someone can teach me how to swim in her bathtub. Thank you.

Thread: toğa çorbesi

1130.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 06:35 pm   Quoting elenagabriela     şımarıksın sen, lan   I am simply bad

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1131.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 06:33 pm I want tanga soup

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1132.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 06:28 pm   Quoting noha naim hi everyone  ramazan kareem ................i hope someone can translat this for me too much important .......thanks   Siz Aşktan N´anlarsınız Bayım   Çok şey öğrendim geçen üç yıl boyunca Alt katında uyumayı bir ranzanın Üst katında çocukluğum... Kağıttan gemiler yaptım kalbimden Ki hiçbiri karşıya ulaşmazdı. Aşk diyorsunuz,  limanı olanın aşkı olmaz ki bayım! Allah’la samimi oldum geçen üç yıl boyunca Havı dökülmüş yerlerine yüzümün Büyük bir aşk yamadım Hayır Yüzüme nur inmedi, yüzüm nura indi bayım Gözyaşlarım bitse tesbih tanelerim vardı Tesbih tanelerim bitse göz yaşlarım... Saydım, insanın doksan dokuz tane yalnızlığı vardı. Aşk diyorsunuz ya Ben istemenin allahını bilirim bayım Çok şey öğrendim geçen üç yıl boyunca Balkona yorgun çamaşırlar asmayı Ki uçlarından çile damlardı. Güneşte nane kurutmayı Ben acılarımın başını evcimen telaşlarla okşadım bayım. Bir pardösüm bile oldu içinde kaybolduğum. İnsan kaybolmayı ister mi?  Ben işte istedim bayım. Uzaklara gittim Uzaklar sana gelmez, sen uzaklara gidersin Uzaklar seni ister, bak uzaklar da aşktan anlar bayım Süt içtim acım hafiflesin diye Çikolata yedim bir köşeye çekilip Zehrimi alsın diye Sizin hiç bilmediğiniz, bilmeyeceğiniz İlahiler öğrendim. Siz zehir nedir bilmezsiniz Zehir aşkı bilir oysa bayım! Ben işte miraç gecelerinde Bir peygamberin kanatlarında teselli aradım,  Birlikte yere inebileceğim bir dost aradım,  Uyuyan ve acılı yüzünde kardeşimin Bir şiir aradım. Geçen üç yıl boyunca Yüzü dövmeli kadınların yüzünde yüzümü aradım. Ülkem olmayan ülkemi Kayboluşumu aradım. Bulmak o kadar kolay olmasa gerek diye düşünmüştüm. Bir ters bir yüz kazaklar ördüm Haroşa bir hayat bırakmak için. Bırakmak o kadar kolay olmasa gerek diye düşünmüştüm. Kimi gün öylesine yalnızdım Derdimi annemin fotoğrafına anlattım. Annem Ki beyaz bir kadındır Ölüsünü şiirle yıkadım. Bir gölgeyi sevmek ne demektir bilmezsiniz siz bayım Öldüğü gece terliklerindeki izleri okşadım. Çok şey öğrendim geçen üç yıl boyunca Acının ortasında acısız olmayı,  Kalbim ucu kararmış bir tahta kaşık gibiydi bayım. Kendimin ucunu kenar mahallelere taşıdım. Aşk diyorsunuz ya,  İşte orda durun bayım Islak unutulmuş bir taş bezi gibi kalakaldım Kendimin ucunda Öyle ıslak,  Öyle kötü kokan,  Yırtık ve perişan. Siz aşkı ne bilirsiniz bayım Aşkı aşk bilir yalnız!   Didem Madak   We have limited patience in Ramadan. Send us short poems to translate. TheNemanja, noha naim and elenagabriela liked this message

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1133.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 06:26 pm This is the first time I hear it. I hope kelowna can cook for me.

Thread: help

1134.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 06:24 pm   Quoting Kelowna     coming home tomorrow  ?   Not when you are at home Edited (7/24/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: English to Turkish please

1135.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 06:22 pm   Quoting Kelowna     sen ayran iciyor, umarim   I prefer milk.

Thread: t2e

1136.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 01:48 pm   Quoting nessah     i know u will, i trust u thanks     Why do you trust everybody and not me? Am I the big bad wolf?   nessah liked this message

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1137.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 01:47 pm   Quoting harp00n     No, you cant....   You should let me go harpoon beautifullies28 liked this message

Thread: how do i say this in turkish

1138.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 12:52 pm   Quoting nessah "You don´t understand and I can´t explain"     Anlamıyorsun, ben de açıklayamam. nessah liked this message

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1139.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 12:23 pm Time flies away so quickly. I am now very close to my 4000. post And I know I occupy the whole forum Should I retire?

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1140.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 12:09 pm   Quoting TheNemanja I have to ask this... What is difference between future with future with -ecek  and future(present) with -ir? Is future with present(ir) like in English: going to? Thank´s in advance  Yarın eve gelir. There is a guess here. It is not as certain as "gelecek".   elenagabriela and TheNemanja liked this message

Thread: English to Turkish please

1141.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 12:01 pm   Quoting nasaust Hi all - new to the forum and I would love it if you can help me with a simple translation. You are new and first thing you want is a translation. Lets meet first, drink something, have a welcoming party then we can translate your texts.

Thread: Come on (haydi)

1142.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 11:55 am   Quoting gamzicc the number of Turkish loanwords is significiant in Balkan languages .I think haydi ,hayde or ayde is one of these loanwords from Turkish.We also use bre,be with haydi and ayde. etc; ayde bre = ooh come on I am not sure "haydi" is a Turkish word. It is a very common word. Look even there is a "Heidi" in Swiss literature   Note: By the way I found an article about origin of haydi. http://www.turkiyat.selcuk.edu.tr/pdfdergi/s30/2.pdf Edited (7/24/2013) by gokuyum gamzicc liked this message

Thread: ahmet selcuk ilkan Please English..!

1143.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 12:28 am   Quoting TheNemanja 4 months... how did you even find it?   I am a nostalgic person and this poem deserves a translation Edited (7/24/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: ahmet selcuk ilkan Please English..!

1144.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 12:25 am   Quoting Poeta   VAR MISIN? Are You In?   Bütün beyazlarım kirli Bütün yeşillerim uzak Bütün mavilerim kırık My all whites are dirty My all greens are far My all blues are broken   Avuçlarımda siyahlar Sırtımda günahlarla geldim sana Açar mısın kapını Blacks in my palm Sins on my back, I have come to you Would you open the door?   Mazinin beşiğinden kalma bu çocuk gözler Bir de titreyen sesim Yalnızım yaralıyım eksiğim asiyim Ve tarih kadar eskiyim Yeniler misin? These childish eyes have remained from the cradle of past And my shaking voice too I am alone, I am wounded, I am lacking, I am rebellious And I am as old as history Would you renew me?   Aynı şiirlerde buluşsak artık seninle Aynı şarkılarda Hatta aynı kadehlerden içsek yarınları Ve atsak hayatımızdan ne varsa bizi sıkan Eski gömlekleri ayakkabıları Giydiğimiz o boğazlı kazakları Ve yürüdüğümüz O dar çıkmaz sokakları May we come together in the same poems from now on In the same songs And even may we drink the tomorrows from the same cups And may we throw everything that bore us: Old shirts and shooes Turtleneck sweaters that we wear And those narrow dead-end streets That we walk   Ertelenmiş günleri yaşasak el ele Bir zeytin dalı uzatsak hayata Yeniden çiçekler eksek bahçelere Menekşeler büyütsek Ve beraber büyüsek Kaldığımız yerden El atsak el değmemiş gecelere Ve el ele koşsak yepyeni şiirlere Var mısın? May we live the delayed days hand to hand May we offer an olive branch to the life May we sow flowers in gardens again May we nourish violets And may we nourish them together Where we left May we grab at untouched nights And may we run to the new poems hand to hand Are you in?       Edited (7/24/2013) by gokuyum Edited (2/10/2014) by gokuyum Nadya. and TheNemanja liked this message

Thread: Demet Akalın - Affedersin plz translate Turkish to English

1145.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2013 Wed 12:02 am This song is too elite for me.

Thread: The RSH (RŞ) sound

1146.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Jul 2013 Tue 11:28 pm   Quoting cim If you don´t think some pronounce sh on r at the end, try listening to Gökhan Tepe and his video "Vur" on youtube.com at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4vO6dHax4w   All I hear is meaningless words.

Thread: 1st person possessive and to be is the same

1147.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Jul 2013 Tue 11:08 pm   Quoting si++     Stress is dfferent. That way you can differentiate it.   For example (with stressed syllable in red): Çocuğum = I am a kid Çocuğum = My kid   And even, Çocuğum = hey kid This is way stressful for me.

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1148.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Jul 2013 Tue 11:07 pm Hangman´s Curse

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1149.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Jul 2013 Tue 08:45 pm   Quoting nessah     im just an emotional person with a big heart   But you have showed me only a small piece of it

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1150.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Jul 2013 Tue 11:19 am   Quoting stumpy stop making the girls cry gokuyum and don´t play innocent, you probably pulled her ponytail   but yes it is a nice quote   Come on my "Woman is cross of man" is better than this quote By the way I didnt do anything to her she just loves crying a lot.

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1151.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Jul 2013 Tue 11:14 am The posts I like reading a lot are translation attempts of learners. If they are good, I really envy them and be happy. Abla liked this message

Thread: Turkish to English

1152.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Jul 2013 Tue 11:09 am   Quoting TheNemanja   I couldn´t say you for two day ´I love you´ I kept(stopped) myself No matter how am I mad at you You are the most magnificent women who has entered into my life even if I leave you it will be like this you will always be inaccessible for me,you´ll be at the top,you will be on the summit. my try but i´m not so sure.........      Great Nemanja. TheNemanja liked this message

Thread: turkish english translation needed thanks

1153.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jul 2013 Mon 11:50 pm   Quoting Turkish2412   here is my try:   i said to Mehmet,how are you he said,i am not good because of emine i made a life mistake I made the mistake of my life. İ am working and tolerating it because of childs.         Turkish2412 liked this message

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1154.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jul 2013 Mon 11:15 pm   Quoting nessah   i think i know where       Dont go that much far away beautifullies28, TheNemanja and nessah liked this message

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1155.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jul 2013 Mon 11:14 pm I do the opposite. When I pronounce the ş at the end of the word r comes out of my mouth after it

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1156.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jul 2013 Mon 11:11 pm   Quoting britturk tatto yapmıs sol elıne   He/she tattooed his/her left hand.   I would prefer a different place

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1157.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jul 2013 Mon 11:04 pm   Quoting nessah   thanks, a nice quote. the tears are coming nowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww dammittttt     What! Why?

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1158.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jul 2013 Mon 11:03 pm   Quoting nessah Sabır, durumu kabullenmek değil, aktif mücadele şartları oluşuncaya kadar pasif mücadeledir... Patience is not to accept the situation but it is a passive struggle untill the conditions of active struggle emerge.   Sen de özler misin hasret çeker misin yar deyip sevdiğini söyler misin ? Do you miss too? Do you long too? Do say that you love saying oh my beloved?       nessah liked this message

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1159.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jul 2013 Mon 10:59 pm   Quoting nessah Aslında insanı en çok acıtan şeyi hayal kırıkları değil yaşanması mümkünken yaşayamadığı mutluluklar   Actually the things which hurt you most are not the disappointments but the happinesses which were possible to be lived but you couldnt live them. madtingx and nessah liked this message

Thread: Turkish Airlines - Bu Gurur Turkiyenin ??? [Question]

1160.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jul 2013 Mon 10:55 pm   Quoting Kuveytli Merhaba,    In the Turkish Airlines commercial, it said "Bu Gurur Turkiyenin" which means: This is the pride of Turkey   Shouldn´t it be "Bu Turkiyenin Gururu"?    Are both correct?    Then what about "End of the World" in Turkish?   Dunyanin Sonu  or Son Dunyanin or both correct?   Teşekkurler Look at the positions of commas:   Bu gurur, Türkiye´nin  "This honor belongs to Turkey" Bu, Türkiye´nin gururu "This is Turkey´s honor."   Dünyanın sonu "The end of the world" Sonu dünyanın Word order is wrong. This can be only poetic. Not acceptable in written and daily speech.   Kuveytli liked this message

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

1161.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jul 2013 Mon 08:33 pm   Quoting TheNemanja Sağol,gokuyum!  I probably became boring with this translations... Özür dilerim. I didn´t want to post twice,so I´m saying thank you now.  The inspector is talking to the people at the theatre again. Inspector:Now,Miss Twain. What were you and Mr Russell talking about this afternoon? Ursula:He asked me to marry him. Fiona knew that he loved me.That´s why she was jealous. Fiona:No. It´s not true. He loved me,not her! Inspector: You´re lying ,Miss Twain. You see,while you were talking to Mr Russell,the stage manager was testing the sound equipment. Listen to this. The stage manager switches on a tape. John: A thousand pounds by tomorrow,Ursula,or else... Ursula:But I haven´t got it. Please,John. John:Well,you´d better find it. You don´t want everybody to know your little secret,do you? The manager switches off the tape. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Müffetiş yine tiyatrodaki insanlara konuşuyor. Müffetiş:Yani,LŞimdi, Twain hanım. Siz bu öğleden sonra Russel beyle ne konuşuyordunuz? Ursula: Bana evlenme teklif etti. Fiona onun beni sevdiğini biliyordu. O yüzden o kıskandı. Fiona:Hayır. Bu doğru değil. Beni seviyordu,onu değil! Müffetiş:Yalan söylüyorsunuz,Twain hanım.Gördüğünüz gibi,siz Russel beyle konuşurken,rejisör ses donanımını deniyordu.Dinleyin bunu. Rejisör kasette bir şey değiştirir. John:Yarına kadar bana bin pound veririsin,yoksa... Ursula:Ama,ben bulamadım.yok John,lütfen. John:Yani,Öyleyse onu bulsan iyi edersin daha iyi olur.Herkesin senin küçük sırını bilmesini istemiyorsun,değil mi? Rejisör kaseti kapatır   Now my friend here is a warning for you. Dont use pronouns if not necessary.   TheNemanja liked this message

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

1162.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jul 2013 Mon 11:38 am Here is an interesting information. "Ne diye" means "why"   Ne diye gitti? Why did he go?   But there is a some kind of disaproval in this question. Edited (7/22/2013) by gokuyum TheNemanja liked this message

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

1163.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jul 2013 Mon 11:22 am   Quoting TheNemanja     Thank you very much, gokuyum.   I just don´t get this: Onda istediğim birşey olabilir diye düşünüyorum. Why is diye even here? Is that some replacement for /olduğunu<---(I´m not sure for name of this thing )/ ?  I think "diye" functions here like "that". I think that..... What about this: Onda istediğim birşey olabildiğini düşünüyorum? "Onda istediğim birşey olabileceğini düşünüyorum."       Edited (7/22/2013) by gokuyum TheNemanja liked this message

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

1164.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jul 2013 Mon 12:03 am   Quoting TheNemanja     thank you so much. Inspector:So somebody changed the bullets. Now,Miss May,you were going out with Mr Russell,weren´t you?But you had an angry argument this afternoon,didn´t you?Everybody heard it. What was it about? Fiona:I saw him talking to Ursula Twain. I asked him what it was about,but he didn´t tell me anything. I´ve seen them talking like that before. Inspector:So you were jealous. Did you say: ´´You´re monster,I´ll kill you!´ ? Fiona:Well,I... Yes,I did,but I didn´t mean it.I was angry. I didn´t kill John. I was in love with him. Inspector:But only your fingerprints were on the gun,Miss May! The inspector and the constable Constable:So,are you going to arrest her? It all seems very clear. Inspector:No,Fiona May didn´t do it. Constable:But,how do you know? Inspector:You´ll see. Now I need to talk to the stage manager. I think he might have something that I want. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Müffetiş:Yani,biri kurşunları değiştrimiş.May Hanım,siz Russel beyle çıkıyordunuz,değil mi?Ama,bugün öğleden sonra,kızgın hararetli bir tartışmada bulunmuşsunuz.varmış,değil mi? Herkes duymuş.Ne oldu? Fiona:Onu Ursula Twain´le konuşurken gördüm.Ne olduğunu sordum,ama o birşey söylemedi.Onları daha önce de böyle konuşurken zaten gördüm. Müffetiş:Bu yüzden kıskandınız kıskançtınız. Siz: ´´Sen canavarsın,seni öldüreceğim!´´ dediniz mi? Fiona:Ya,ben... Evet,dedim,ama öyle düşünmedim. Kızgındım. John´u öldürmedim. Ona aşıktım oldum. Müffetiş:Ama,May Hanım, tabancadaki sadece sizin parmak izinizdi! Müffetiş ve polis memuru Polis memuru:Yani,onu tutuklayacak mısınz? Herşey açık görünüyor. Müffetiş:Hayır,Fiona hanım onu yampadı. Polis memuru:Ama,nereden biliyorsunuz? Müffetiş:Göreceksiniz.Şimdi benim rejisörle konuşmam lazım.Onda ne istediğim birşey şeyi olduğunu olabilir diye düşünüyorum.       TheNemanja liked this message

Thread: how do i say this in turkish

1165.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Jul 2013 Sun 09:38 am   Quoting nessah     yes So cute.   nessah and TheNemanja liked this message

Thread: one word t-e

1166.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Jul 2013 Sun 09:37 am   Quoting harp00n Yardırmşsın badi   Yardıranların çok olsun harp00n liked this message

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

1167.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Jul 2013 Sun 09:32 am   Quoting TheNemanja A detective inspector and a police constable are talking to the people at the theatre. Inspector: So,Miss May,you shot John Russell. Did you know that there were real bullets in the gun? Fiona: Of course not,Inspector. We always use blank bullets. Inspector:Who normally puts the bullets in the gun? Stage manager:I do. Inspector:Can you show me how you do it? Stage manager:Yes,of course.Like this. Inspector:Thank you. And did you put blank bullets in the gun this evening? Stage manager:Yes,I did.The director saw me. Didn´t you? Director:Yes ,that´s right,Inspector. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dedektif müfettiş ve polis memuru tiyatrodaki insanlarla konuşuyorlar. Müffetiş:Yani,May hanım,John Russell´ı vuran sizsiniz.Tabancada gerçek kurşunlar olduğunu biliyor muydunuz? Fiona:Bilmiyordum,tabii ki. Biz her zaman boş kurşunları kullanıyoruz. Müffetiş:Normalde kim kurşunları tabancaya koyar? Rejisör:Ben.  Müffetiş:Bunu nasıl yaptığınızı bana gösterebilir misiniz?  Rejisör:Evet,tabii.Böyle. Müffetiş:Teşekkür ederim.Ya bu gece boş kurşunları koydunuz mu? Rejisör:Evet,koydum.Yönetmen de beni görmüş. Değil mi? Yönetmen:Evet,müffetiş,bu doğru. ---------- Lütfen. I haven´t studied,but let´s see ... That is a brilliant translation nemanja.   TheNemanja liked this message

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1168.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Jul 2013 Sun 09:29 am http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_55850

Thread: Turkish to English

1169.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Jul 2013 Sat 05:03 pm   Quoting beautifullies28 Yani bu hafta sonu görüsmek yok So we will not talk this weekend Bu hafta sonu biz az görüsecek We will talk a little this weekend     Please remind him to conjuagate the verbs. When he doesnt conjugate them, it doesnt make him more understandable for you. Edited (7/20/2013) by gokuyum elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

1170.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Jul 2013 Sat 05:00 pm   Quoting Abla   I believe you but I wish I could understand...   Let´s say                                top çocuğa verildi   ok?   Then, is it both                                çocuğa verilen top                              AND top verilen çocuk    ? the ball which was given to the boy the boy which was given ball

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

1171.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Jul 2013 Sat 11:19 am   Quoting Abla Translation practice, could someone please take a look?   A rare two-faced kitten has been born in Oregon. The animal which has two faces and one body is known as a Janus. Its owner Durkee says she did a double take when she discovered the newborn. Nadiren rastlanan iki yüzlü bir kedi Oregon’da doğdu. İki yüzü ve bir bedeni olan hayvanlar Janus adıyla tanınıyor. Kedinin sahibi Durkee yenidoğanı yavruyu farkedince ona bir daha baktığını söylüyor.   "This morning the kids actually found them and came in and said, ´Mom there´s a kitty with two heads´, and I said ´I think you guys are just tired, you´re crazy, that doesn´t happen.´"  “Bu sabah çocuklar gerçekten onları bulmuş ve yanıma girip gelip ‘İki yüzlü bir kedi var’ dedi. Ben ‘Yorgunsunuz galiba, kafayı yediniz yemiş olsanız gerek, böyle şeyler olmaz’ diye cevap verdim.”   The kitten which has been named Duecy has been examined by a vet and everything seems to be in good working order. Although after being rejected by her mother, it´s down to the owner to feed the kitten with a syringe and keep her warm with a heating pad. Veteriner Duecy adı verildiği verilen kediyi muayene etti ve her şey çalışır yolunda gibi görünüyor. Her neyse annesi küçük kediyi terkettiği için sahibi onu şırıngayla besleyip besliyor ve ısıtma yastığı kullanarak sıcak tutmak zorunda kalıyor.

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1172.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Jul 2013 Sat 10:04 am   Quoting Abla                       Anne çocuğuna Tayyip adını verdi.   If we passivize it should it be                         Çocuk Tayyip adını verildi                        OR Çocuğa Tayyip adı verildi     ?  Second one.

Thread: how do i say this in turkish

1173.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jul 2013 Fri 11:53 pm   Quoting nessah jhtyjurt   Is this Swedish? rumeysa liked this message

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1174.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jul 2013 Fri 11:00 pm   Quoting cim Does it invoke the name of Allah. If a Christian (or other) says this, would it be sacrilegious? Is the same true for using Allahaısmarladık?   Muslims dont think Christians worship to another God. We accept that Jesus was prophet of Allah. So there is no problem with you saying it. rumeysa, Alizeh and aloui hajer liked this message

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1175.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jul 2013 Fri 07:28 pm   Quoting TheNemanja     It´s good that you exist,my angel. I´m very happy to be with you. It´s so sad to live without you,but there is hope.One day I´ll meet you and then I will be really happy. There is no patience without you. my try ~     Good try nemanja. TheNemanja liked this message

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1176.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jul 2013 Fri 06:04 pm   Quoting deli we know no boundaries  when planning     my try Yeah that is the irony.

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1177.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jul 2013 Fri 06:02 pm   Quoting Kelowna     yaaaaaaay I am still young I can wait.....  bekliyorum I appreciate your patience my friend. Even Buda wouldnt wait.   Efi70 liked this message

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1178.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jul 2013 Fri 05:54 pm   Quoting Kelowna     huh? are you going to translate this alpha or keep me guessing   Alpha waits the text to translate itself. Dont worry it wont take more than 1 billion years. Efi70 liked this message

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1179.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jul 2013 Fri 05:48 pm Dr. Who? beautifullies28 and harp00n liked this message

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1180.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jul 2013 Fri 09:34 am   Quoting cim Is it polite for a gayrimüslim to say estağfurullah?   Why not? Alizeh liked this message

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1181.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jul 2013 Fri 02:30 am   Quoting beautifullies28     I second this. Where do I sign up?   Zeus´s ass xxxnavymanxxx liked this message

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1182.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jul 2013 Fri 02:07 am Can I change my zodiac sign? Where should I apply to? Zodiac office? Edited (7/19/2013) by gokuyum xxxnavymanxxx and beautifullies28 liked this message

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1183.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jul 2013 Fri 01:12 am   Quoting Johnk herkes, yardimin icin tesekkur ederim   Herkese yardımları için teşekkür ederim.

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1184.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jul 2013 Thu 06:39 pm   Quoting Kelowna     we say cocking the gun which means to prepare the gun for firing  and I guess  rooster and cock are the same meaning in animal life  and i missed the suffix and y buffer now it make sense thank you   You are welcome.

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1185.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jul 2013 Thu 06:29 pm   Quoting Kelowna thank you can you explain the iyla ? next time I will do some word search i thought horo was a turkey bird and it did not make sense   Actually it is not ıyla. Let me explain to you: merhamet-in maraz-ı-y-la -in is genetive suffix -ı is possesive suffix -y is buffer letter -la is vasıta (I dont know the proper translation) suffix. It means "with".   We call the hammer of trigger "rooster" Edited (7/18/2013) by gokuyum Kelowna liked this message

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1186.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jul 2013 Thu 05:24 pm Ezan Çiçekleri Ezan (call to prayer)  Flowers Karartırsan günümüzü  If you blacken our day black          day Yanar ateşböcekleri       Firebugs flame flaming fire bugs ( flaming fireflies ) Unutursan dünümüzü    If you forget our yesterday you forget Açar Ezan Çiçekleri              Ezan flowers bloom open  call to pray flowers Merhametin marazıyla     By the illness of mercy compassion evil spirit Tetiğin horozuyla,    By the hammer of the trigger trigger rooster Sıktığın biber gazıyla  By the pepper gas you spray             pepper gas Solmaz hazan çiçekleri  Autum flowers don´t wilt. fadelessly  autum flowers Edited (7/18/2013) by gokuyum Kelowna liked this message

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1187.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jul 2013 Thu 04:49 pm   Quoting nessah   thanks       Only thanks?

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1188.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jul 2013 Thu 04:44 pm   Quoting nessah   dont worry im noit gonna waste my time on that, i just wonder why she never have anything good to say? miserable person     Oh God! I am running away.

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1189.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jul 2013 Thu 04:42 pm   Quoting nessah   thanks and its not from a boy its a girl. why do u assume its a boy? can u tell me how i say this in turkish "im very pleased to meet u too. i was guessing that u are sibling with gufran becuz u look alot like each other"     Because she said that you were sweet. No girl would say you were sweet Ben de seninle tanıştığıma çok memnun oldum. Gufran´la çok benzerliğinden dolayı onun kardeşi olduğunu tahmin ediyordum.

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1190.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jul 2013 Thu 04:35 pm   Quoting nessah   why do u care so much?       Here begins a cat fight

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1191.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jul 2013 Thu 04:34 pm   Quoting nessah Tanisamadik biz hic senle cok istedim ama bugun nasip oldu. Ben gufranin ikiziyim kardesiz yani seni de hep ondan remziyeden falan duydum. Cok tatlisin. Tanistigima cok memnun oldum     We couldnt meet. I always wanted that. At last today we have met. I am the twin of Gufran so I am his sybling Note: Thank you for the information, we could never guess it I have alwas heard about you from him and Remziye. You are so sweet Note: This boy is fast . I am so pleased to meet you. xxxnavymanxxx liked this message

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1192.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jul 2013 Thu 04:16 pm   Quoting thehandsom     These type of news is for dummies. Not for Tao!!!   Why dont you two marry? You would be a great couple

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1193.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jul 2013 Thu 04:12 pm   Quoting Kelowna     are you and canimarab same person because you both post same type of stuff always?   Is that a fact Mrs Holmes?   Efi70 liked this message

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1194.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jul 2013 Thu 02:47 pm   Quoting elenagabriela     I dont know I should nearly can come....       This verb geleyazabilmezem is not correct. But it means something like that: I can not be able to nearly come. Edited (7/18/2013) by gokuyum

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1195.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jul 2013 Thu 01:16 pm gelebileyazabilmezem. Who can translate this?

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1196.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Jul 2013 Wed 04:45 pm   Quoting Turkish2412   merhaba yardımın ve beni eve götürdüğün için teşekkür ederim.çok minnettarım.Sen çok iyi bir adamsın bu yüzden bir gün birisini bulacaksın ve onunla daha iyi bir hayat yaşayacağını umarım.Seni rahatsız etmediğimi üzmediğimi umuyorum ama ben sadece bir adamı istiyorum,muratı ve biliyorum o beni istemiyor ama ben onu çok seviyorum,yine de teşekkürler.     my try      Now my friend remember my warning when you write like this. This kind of word order is understandable in Turkish but it is not gramatically accaptable. Because verb always has to be at the end. This sounds like English: I know that ....  But that is wrong. Sometimes even I do this kind of mistakes. But it is still wrong. Edited (7/17/2013) by gokuyum Elisabeth and Turkish2412 liked this message

Thread: English to turkish please

1197.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Jul 2013 Wed 04:33 pm   Quoting Turkish2412     Bu fotoğrafı gönderdin için çok teşekkür ediyorum.Aslında şu anda ağlıyorum.Onun babası gibi güzeldir.     my try but i hope somebody can show me mistakes   Don´t use this suffix. I know they teach you to use it. But I dont understand why they still do it.. We dont use this suffix in this way anymore. We use it for different purposes like: 1. When we define something: Araba benzinle çalışan bir aygıttır. A car is a vehicle that works with gas. 2. When we talk about a scientific fact: Suyun kaynama derecesi 100 C ´ tır. The boiling degree of water is 100 C. 3. When we guess something: Herhalde eve gitmiştir. I guess she went to home. TheNemanja liked this message

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1198.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Jul 2013 Wed 04:22 pm   Quoting deli     I dont believe erdem whatever he says ,he came to me whilst in antalya he spoke ill of yilmaz he said bad things, I never believed erdems words   egehan and nil are all well ? I see them everyday ,they are living a very distressing life , they are missing dad it upsets me so much when seeing them like this     my try: Great translation deli.   Edited (7/17/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: English to Turkish Please

1199.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Jul 2013 Wed 04:20 pm What does rumeysa mean? I have never heard such a name.

Thread: SUPPORT FOR SHARIAH

1200.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Jul 2013 Wed 04:19 pm   Quoting thehandsom     He he I am not worried about my posts the least bit..       Maybe you think too highly about yourself. I am sure you would be blocked too

Thread: Burçlarla İlgili :) ENG pls

1201.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Jul 2013 Wed 04:11 pm   Quoting Efi70     I hope you don´t cry out of tune    I am too lazy to cry.

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1202.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Jul 2013 Wed 12:23 pm   Quoting Efi70   I don´t      I am going to cry

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1203.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Jul 2013 Wed 12:05 pm   Quoting Efi70     Iam not sure,difficult to find better than Greeks  Here I stand

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1204.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Jul 2013 Wed 11:58 am   Quoting Efi70   Hehe another one common thing turkish men have with the greek men    But you know we are better than Greek men

Thread: english to turkish please

1205.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Jul 2013 Wed 11:50 am   Quoting britturk I would like to send some clothes for the Efe and Nur. Is there adress :   Efe ve Nur için elbise göndermek istiyorum. Adres var mı?   Note: There is no address. They live on streets

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1206.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Jul 2013 Wed 11:47 am   Quoting Efi70   Really?? What a surprise!!     Yes still mama´s boy

Thread: tURKISH TO eNGLISH pLEASE

1207.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Jul 2013 Wed 11:45 am Isnt there any escape from women in the other world too? Who needs them when you have beautiful angel wives when you are in heaven?

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1208.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Jul 2013 Wed 11:38 am   Quoting Efi70     Hmm I can think of some people having different point of view from you Don´t comment about my cooking,Iam an excellent cooker,by the way  I hope so. I am so picky. I only like my mother´s meals

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1209.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Jul 2013 Wed 11:35 am If only there was something I could do for you I would do it straight awayyou too are are very good person very warm sincereness, I am very happy to meet you, I wanted very much to see you when you came here?and the things that you wanted I would have helped you , hopefully what you want will become reality you will be in the other world with yilmaz   Wow such a sincere and lovely wish! Other world? What is wrong with this one?

Thread: Burçlarla İlgili :) ENG pls

1210.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Jul 2013 Wed 11:28 am   Quoting Efi70   Υeahh,tell me about it!!    What is the use of such a woman? I hope at least you know how to cook

Thread: Burçlarla İlgili :) ENG pls

1211.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Jul 2013 Wed 11:22 am   Quoting Efi70     Well, Iam not....you should live with this I guess  That is not good news

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1212.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Jul 2013 Wed 03:45 am   Quoting Efi70 Iam Virgo,but Iam not fastidious   A woman should be festidious

Thread: SUPPORT FOR SHARIAH

1213.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2013 Tue 05:10 pm   Quoting Kelowna     Too much lightning. My battery is already full. Dont send anymore

Thread: SUPPORT FOR SHARIAH

1214.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2013 Tue 05:04 pm   Quoting Kelowna     save yourself no need to be so egotistical that you think you can save someone   I did my best to save your soul and you dont even thank me for my effort

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1215.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2013 Tue 05:00 pm   Quoting Kelowna google for it online sat test   https://www.google.ca/search?q=online+sat+test&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&gws_rd=cr Brilliant idea

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1216.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2013 Tue 04:57 pm   Quoting Kelowna     I am happy with my own choices in life, be happy with yours where the f#*k is that block button when you need it   I thought you were against block button. Anyways at least I tried to save you

Thread: SUPPORT FOR SHARIAH

1217.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2013 Tue 04:35 pm   Quoting Kelowna      perhaps I will die a happy atheist   I could convice you to become a Muslim again if you let me I am a very convincing person you know that

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1218.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2013 Tue 04:06 pm   Quoting Kelowna Religious law of any kind is a direct threat to liberty and to justice. Religion is a belief, nothing more. Once you have a group of "believers" driving the law, it is game over for anything else. History teaches us that religious rule of law usually ends up with someone being repressed. Namely anyone the faith decides is not ok. That is bad news for most of us. Especially woman and children. Sharia has a long track record of harsh bloody rule over people. How any rational person could want to live under it is shocking. But religion does indeed blind us to common sense that would otherwise give us better judgement against making laws that are dangerous even to the believers. Articles like this about poll results are only meaningful unless the actual question asked to the respondents is given, verbatim. Instead of reporting that XX% of Muslims in (country) are in favor of XXX, it should be related by saying "XX% of Muslims responded ´yes´ to the question (for example), ´Are you in favor of amputating limbs as punishment for convicted thieves?´" And so on. You are an infidel. Be ready to die By the way I dont agree with some of your comments. But I am always against violance.

Thread: english to turkish please

1219.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2013 Tue 03:50 pm   Quoting gokuyum     Cookie Monster was my idol when I was a child   We call him "Kurabiye Canavarı"

Thread: english to turkish please

1220.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2013 Tue 03:49 pm   Quoting Kelowna     this must be your song http://youtu.be/m3KhWUQxZWg   Cookie Monster was my idol when I was a child

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1221.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2013 Tue 03:37 pm etena liked this message

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1222.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2013 Tue 03:34 pm By the way please dont fall in love with a man/woman you cant communicate. We dont have enough translators here to deal with your communication problems. Edited (7/16/2013) by gokuyum elenagabriela liked this message

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1223.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2013 Tue 03:31 pm   Quoting Kelowna     Lets just move on to QUESTION 16 Who stoled the cookie from the cookie jar? would be easier to figure out than the people here on TC slinging their personal shit kim tatle biskuvi kavanoz çerez çalmak bu Alpha oldu?       I stole the cookie aNd I will not give it back

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1224.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2013 Tue 03:27 pm For whom do you write these posts? For handsome? Edited (7/16/2013) by gokuyum

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1225.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2013 Tue 03:14 pm   Quoting Abla     I hate arrogance and even dislike pride.   Zodiac signs cant be wrong. You dont know yourself

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1226.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2013 Tue 02:09 pm   Quoting tunci   A poem [Requiem]  for Ataturk written by Aşık Veysel   Atatürk´e Ağıt  [ Requiem for Atatürk ] Ağlayalım Atatürk´e Bütün dünya kan ağladı Başbuğ olmuştu mülke Geldi ecel can ağladı Lets cry for Atatürk Whole world cried blood He was the leader of the land Death came, soul cried. Şüphesiz bu dünya fani Tanrı´nın aslanı hani İnsi cinsi cem´i mahluk Hepsi birden ağladı Without doubt this world is mortal Where is the lion of God? Humans, djinns, every creature They all cried. Doğu batı cenup şimal Aman tanrım bu nasıl hal Atatürk´e erdi zeval Amir memur altın kürsü Yas çekip mebsan* ağladı East, west, south, north Oh my God? What kind of situation is this? Death reached to Atatürk Chief, employee, the golden chair Deputies cried in mourning İskender-i Zülkarneyin Çalışmadı bunca leğin Her millet Atatürk deyin Cemiyet-i akvam ağladı Alexander with two horns Didnt work this much. Every nation saying Atatürk United nations cried. Atatürk´ün eserleri Söylenecek bundan geri Bütün dünyanın her yeri Ah çekti vatan ağladı Fabrikalar icat etti Atalığın ispat etti Varlığın Türk´e terk etti Döndü çark devran ağladı Bu ne kuvvet bu ne kudret Vardı bunda bir hikmet Bütün Türkler İnönü İsmet Gözlerinden kan ağladı Tren hattı tayyareler Türkler giydi hep karalar Semerkand´ı Buhara´lar İşitti her yan ağladı Siz sağ olun Türk gençleri Çalışanlar kalmaz geri Mareşal Fevzi´nin askerleri Ordular teğmen ağladı Zannetme ağlayan gülmez Aslan yatağı boş kalmaz Yalınız gidenler gelmez Felek-el mevt´in elinden Her gelen insan ağladı Uzatma Veysel bu sözü Dayanmaz herkesin özü Koruyalım yurdumuzu Dost değil düşman ağladı   Aşık Veysel ŞATIROĞLU You can listen this great poem from his original voice on here ; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYjgtVD8mK0       Edited (7/16/2013) by gokuyum

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1227.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2013 Tue 01:34 pm   Quoting Poeta     Koç, en bencil, en egoist  Aries is the most selfish, most egoist Boğa, ta doğuştan realist  Taurus is realist since the birth. İkizler, çözülmez bir bilmece Gemini is an insolvable puzzle. Yengeç, doktor ister her gece  Cancer wants doctor every night Aslan, en önde en kibirli Leo is in the very front, most arrogant Başak, titizlikte bir deli Virgo is crazy festidious Terazi, ölçüp biçmeye aç Libra is hungry to measure Akrep, en ateşli en kıskanç Scorpio is the fieriest, the most jealous Yay, her şeyi gören bilen Sagittarius sees and knows everything Oğlak, insanı sinir eden Capricorn is the one who annoys you Kova, en dahi en inatçı Aquarius is genius and the most stubborn Balık, ya âşık ya sanatçı" Pisces is eighter a lover or an artist.   I dont agree. Sometimes I want other things   Edited (7/16/2013) by gokuyum Edited (7/16/2013) by gokuyum Edited (7/16/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: english to turkish please

1228.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2013 Tue 12:42 pm   Quoting canimarab I know him well too. Believe me that child is his. He changed a lot when he went to Africa, he keeps quiet. There are many things you do not know. I am just concerned about him.   Onu ben de iyi tanıyorum. İnan bana, çocuk onun. Afrika´ya gittiğinden beri çok değişti. Hep sessiz kalıyor. Bilmediğin çok şey var. ben sadece onun için endişeliyim.   Note: I think there will be no end to this conversation. This is not the proper platform for this. You should talk to him directly. You can demand a DNA test to prove the child is his.

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1229.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2013 Tue 11:23 am   Quoting Scott88 By " misfortune" you mean that those ppl haven´t met each other and that is why it´s a misfortune, or just because they don´t know about each other?   Oh my God. You have made this a big deal. Who cares why?

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1230.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2013 Tue 10:59 am   Quoting Scott88 Last thing, is the fact of not knowing each other implied a positive meaning or just an expression of how rare such a sitiation is?   I think the implied thing here is that it is such a misfortune those people dont know each other. Scott88 and Abla liked this message

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1231.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2013 Tue 10:52 am   Quoting Abla     know of is an idiom: ´to be aware of the existance of someone or something´. Here:                           http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/know+of   I think "its Turkish" is exactly ´-den haberi olmak´ while know is ´tanımak, bilmek´.   Hmm.

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1232.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2013 Tue 10:49 am   Quoting Abla   My Try:   There are people who would get along so well if they met. But they do not know of each other.   (I think what confused you is tanışsalar. SA is attached straight to the verb stem which means this action is not real but only envisaged.)   I dont see a problem with the tense.

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1233.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2013 Tue 10:46 am   Quoting Scott88 after giving another thought, I believe the overall meaning of the phrase would be like: there´re ppl who would get along nicely (would suit each other perfecty) if they met, but their future situation (news of each other) wouldn´t be. True?    They dont know each other. Scott88 liked this message

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1234.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2013 Tue 10:43 am Know or know of? Which one is correct?

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1235.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2013 Tue 10:41 am Who do you expect to answer these questions? I hope not me

Thread: Is it correct? T 2 E

1236.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2013 Tue 10:39 am   Quoting Scott88 Good Morning! I think my following try is extremely poor. Could you make the necessary correction for me. T: Tanışsalar çok iyi anlaşacak insanlar var. Ama birbirlerinden haberleri yok. E:  There are people who will get along nicely if they meet each other, but their news isn´t that good.they dont know eachother. [lit: They dont have news about eachother] Many thanks!       Scott88 liked this message

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1237.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2013 Tue 08:42 am   Quoting beautifullies28 That is funny. Sometimes I laugh because I think sometimes people imagine I say things. I have no idea what I am "serious" about........the fact I repeatedly keep saying no? (Not actually asking a question) Imaginations you men have just crack me up.    Oh come on. I am sure you love him too

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1238.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2013 Tue 04:38 am   Quoting farah25 Merhaba     Ağlama yağmur gözlüm ------ don´t cry my rainy eye Uyu melek yüzlüm -------- sleep my angel face  I´ve read these sentences and I was wondering what is the ´L´ exactly  for in the two words ´göz´ and ´yüz´ ? Can anybody help me in this?    It is not "l" it is "lü". It is a suffix.   Here is an explanation from http://www.turkishlanguage.co.uk/suffix.htm   The Containing Condition "-li -lı -lü -lu" The Suffix -li -lı -lü -lu - originating from, furnished with, place of, This suffix gives the sense of belonging to something or somewhere. It is used with place names - especially to say where one is from. The -li suffix is not separated from a Proper Noun by an apostrophe as other suffixes generally are - "Londra´lı" would be incorrect - Londralı is correct. Londralı - [Londra-lı] - a Londoner Londralılar - [Londra-lı-lar] - Londoners İstanbullu - [İstanbul-lu] - an Istanbuli İstanbullular - [İstanbul-lu-lar] - Istanbulis İngiltereliyim - [İngiltere-li-yim] - I am from England Bolulu - [Bolu-lu] - a person from Bolu Çinli - [Çin-li] - a Chinese Man (Chinaman) This suffix also gives the sense of belonging to something or somewhere, it is widely used with place names - especially to say where one is from: İngiltereliyim - I am from England, Mançesterliyim - I come from Manchester, Nerelisiniz? - Where (exactly) are you from? An Actual Example of the "containing" suffix. Here is a picture of a sandwich bar´s billboard showing the type of sandwiches available : karışık - mixed kaşarlı [kaşar-lı] - containing hard cheese sucuklu [sucuk-lu] - containing Turkish type sausage salamlı [salam-lı] - containing salami sosisli [sosis-li] - containing sausage Here vowel harmony is operating on the suffix -li as it has three of it four forms in this picture. The meaning of - "furnished with" - is used to make attributive adjectives - tuz - salt - giving - tuzlu - salty - is a prime example. Should you use sugar in your tea then you might ask for - şekerli çay - which can mean sweet tea, sugared tea, sugary tea, - according to context. sabır - patience - sabırlı - patient kuvvet - strength - kuvvetli - strong yaprak - leaf - yapraklı - leafy çimen - lawn - çimenli - having a lawn yaş - age - yaşlı - old renk - colour - renkli - coloured ses - noise - sesli - noisy yatak - bed - yataklı - furnished with a bed tuz - salt - tuzlu - salty Examples Mehmet sabırlı bir adamdır. - Mehmet is a patient man. Ali kuvvetli bir genç. - Ali is a strong youth. Bir yapraklı ağaç. - A leafy tree. Çimenli bir ev. - It is a house with a lawn. Yaşlı bir at. - It is an old horse. İçkili bir lokantaya gittik. - We went to an alcohol serving bistro. Note: içkili - furnished with alcoholic drinks - [ie: Alcoholic drinks are served] We can form plural nouns by adding the -ler or -lar plural suffix to an adjective: sabırlılar - the patient ones kuvvetliler - the strong ones yaşlılar - the aged Edited (7/16/2013) by gokuyum farah25 liked this message

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1239.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2013 Tue 04:33 am   Quoting beautifullies28 Hahaha. Maybe he meant district, or just is a moron. Hahaha. That is pretty funny. Thanks for the translations!! I wish you good time together

Thread: Manga - Cevapsız Sorular

1240.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2013 Tue 04:10 am   Quoting alameda I´m so happy to have been able to help. Thank you for all your wonderful contributions here.      Thank you my friend.   alameda liked this message

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1241.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2013 Tue 04:09 am   Quoting beautifullies28 Istanbulda hangi eyalete geliceksin   To which state will you come  in İstanbul?  Note: What state for God´s sake? Istanbul is a city and there is no state in it.     Ben gerçekten tanışmak istiyorum   I really want to meet you.     Bende simdi ciddi olduğunu anladim,  Seni seviyorum   Now I have realised you are serious too. I love you.

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1242.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2013 Tue 04:04 am   Quoting beautifullies28 I have no clue. Thate why I have trouble a lot. Seems to just write words.           People are strange

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1243.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2013 Tue 03:52 am   Quoting alameda Nice, but when you make a link, why don´t you configure it to open in a new page? That way we don´t loose you here. I just did it to your link in this message. See how you like it.  Quoting gokuyum http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTgEuHBS3K4       Thank you for the suggestion. I didnt even know it was possible. I edited my link. alameda liked this message

Thread: turkish to english

1244.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2013 Tue 03:42 am Generally women´s music tastes suck big time

Thread: english to turkish please

1245.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2013 Tue 03:38 am   Quoting canimarab   You obviously know what happened  between me and Yilmaz. My only question is Why did everybody have an opinion on our relationship yet allow him to have have a relationship with another woman? Benimle Yılmaz arasında neler yaşandığını biliyordun. Benim sorum şu: Herkes bizim ilişkimiz hakkında bir fikre sahipken neden onun başka bir kadınla ilişki yaşamasına izin verdiler?

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1246.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2013 Tue 03:34 am   Quoting beautifullies28 Lütfen ve teşekkür ederim!!!! Senin hayatında ben olsamda olmasamda sen her zaman mutlu olmayı hak etmek Senin hayatında ben olmak yada olmamamak sen her zaman mutluluğu hak etmek Sen çok iyi insan güzel ve temiz bir kalp var sende İşte ben bu yüzden üzgün senin gibi bir sevgilim var ama sean benden uzaktasın meleğim   What kind of Turkish is this? Why doesnt he conjugate verbs?

Thread: English To turkish Please

1247.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2013 Tue 03:31 am   Quoting lauraacorah I know Evren talked with you about me, but to be honest you must not believe what he says. H e loves to boost his ego but the truth is nothing happened between us.   Evren´in seninle benim hakkımda konuştuğunu biliyorum. Ama dürüst olmak gerekirse onun söylediklerine inanmamalısın. Evren egosunu şişirmeyi seviyor ama gerçekte aramızda hiçbir şey olmadı.

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1248.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2013 Mon 05:57 pm   Quoting Efi70     Offff I can´t believe you!!!!! You were talking about my music taste without have listened the song ?    Yes. I really dont trust your music taste

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1249.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2013 Mon 05:51 pm   Quoting Efi70   Υοu are so good with me today Where is the trap?    Trap? What trap?

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1250.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2013 Mon 05:46 pm Ah this is an İlhan İrem song. I recognised it now. It is one of my favourite songs. Efi70 liked this message

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1251.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2013 Mon 05:40 pm   Quoting Efi70     It is the ´´dear´´ day today  Abla   Every beautiful woman is dear for me. Others are my sisters

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1252.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2013 Mon 05:29 pm   Quoting Abla What is this dear thing today?   I started it first then it became viral

Thread: Manga - Cevapsız Sorular

1253.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2013 Mon 04:44 pm Woman is cross of man. What a nice aphorism. I made it up beautifullies28 liked this message

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1254.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2013 Mon 04:30 pm   Quoting Efi70      Don´t worry dear I don´t believe in curses.   I believe in curses. But relax I was not serious. I would never curse you dear. But immediately you should change your music taste

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1255.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2013 Mon 04:17 pm Meh

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1256.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2013 Mon 04:15 pm   Quoting Efi70     Ι love stupid pop turkish songs  Now you can curse me even  more   Noooo! What about my hopes?

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1257.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2013 Mon 04:13 pm An Arabic song from famous rock singer Haluk Levent for Phlistine. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcKRzEWVxjE

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1258.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2013 Mon 04:05 pm If it is a stupid pop song I curse you beautifullies28 liked this message

Thread: Manga - Cevapsız Sorular

1259.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2013 Mon 02:30 pm   Quoting Efi70     What a convinient excuse!!    That is the best I have

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1260.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2013 Mon 02:25 pm   Quoting Nadya.  I supposed to be the one, but men always follow their desires no matter what !         Men have a weak will. Dont blame us. We are captive of our urges   Edited (7/15/2013) by gokuyum

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1261.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2013 Mon 02:13 pm   Quoting Abla I was wondering how to translate düşünmüyor değilim. Maybe ´I am not saying that I don´t think´. Of course in the end it is affirmative but it also has a very sophisticated connotation I think.   I am not I am not thinking    Lol. It doesnt sound so sophisticated in English

Thread: First Posts

1262.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2013 Mon 02:00 pm   Quoting Abla     It seems that I was complaining because no one had evaluated my homework. That problem was not solved until I began to evaluate them myself.   Hehe. Kurda neden ensen kalın diye sormuşlar. Kendi işimi kendim yaparım da ondan demiş They asked the wolf why your neck is thick. He said because I do my own job.   Abla liked this message

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1263.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2013 Mon 01:49 pm I didnt even say hello, right to the translation I am more social now

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1264.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2013 Mon 01:40 pm   Quoting deli ha ha havent improved much then 5802.       deli  5823 posts  Quote --- Modify  12 Oct 2005 Wed 03:28 pm merhaba adim deli gerceckten adim jill nasilsiinz herkes .beni ingilterede yaziyorum, sadece ogreniyorum bastim kitapden belki icin 6 ay , turcem iyi degil hala ama iyilesecek biraz sonra . i am new to this site but i am finding ilginciyor ozur delirim turkcem but practise makes perfect     You have come a long way deli. I am proud of you.

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1265.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2013 Mon 01:03 pm   Quoting Efi70 Thanks gokuyum   You are welcome dear

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1266.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2013 Mon 12:57 pm   Quoting Efi70 Can someone translate this sentence please? Thank you in advance.   ´´Aşk bazen anlaşılmaz ki kalbi olmayan zaten bilemez..´´   Sometimes love cant be understood. Besides one who doesnt have an heart cant know.

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1267.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2013 Mon 12:55 pm Lets share our first post here on the forum. My first post was a translation. Date was 25 March 2010.   Quoting Sekerleme =) I need it today please   Just translate this please:   It is about that I was thinking whole the night.. Believe me I didn´t do it, and you know me well, why should I do it for you.. I just thought that you were very curious and at the same time nice when we were talking in the first time.  I know I am too late, but my thoughts about that never let me sleep, because you are a very important friend to me.      Çünkü bütün gece düşünüyordum. İnan bana onu ben yapmadım ve sen de beni iyi biliyorsun(tanıyorsun), niçin onu senin için yapmalıyım? İlk kez konuşurken senin çok meraklı(or "tuhaf") ve aynı zamanda hoş olduğunu düşündüm. Biliyorum çok geciktim ama o konudaki düşüncelerim beni uyutmadı, çünkü sen benim için çok önemli bir arkadaşsın.

Thread: Is it correct?

1268.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2013 Mon 12:25 pm Yes, it is. Scott88 liked this message

Thread: Manga - Cevapsız Sorular

1269.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2013 Mon 12:25 pm   Quoting Nadya.   Quoting gokuyum QUESTION WITH NO ANSWERS Birden Ay ışığını kesti Bir de Sen çok değiştin Yaşananlar hiç yaşanmamış gibi Söylenenler hiç söylenmemiş gibi Birde Sen karşıma geçtin Başka biri var, biri var dedin İnanamadım gittiğine,inanamadım gittiğine.. Sudenly moon  stopped giving light And you  changed a lot Like everything had never been lived Like everything had never been said And you had stood in front of me And said there was another one, another one...   There is always another one ! Its the truth and we have to believe...   It is not good that there is another one when you are supposed to be the one Edited (7/15/2013) by gokuyum rumeysa and Nadya. liked this message

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1270.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2013 Mon 11:36 am   Quoting canimarab This is your cousin. Yilmaz´s daughter she was born in April 2012 in Uganda.   Bu senin kuzenin. Yılmaz´ın kızı Uganda´da Nisan 2012´de doğdu. canimarab liked this message

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1271.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2013 Mon 11:35 am   Quoting canimarab I am the person who loved him more than anything but me and him were forced apart by your uncles. Look at what happened, is life became even more complicated.   Onu herşeyden çok seven bendim. Ama amcaların bizi ayrılmaya zorladı. Bak şimdi ne oldu? Hayat daha da karmaşıklaştı.

Thread: Manga - Cevapsız Sorular

1272.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2013 Mon 11:27 am http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTgEuHBS3K4   CEVAPSIZ SORULAR QUESTIONS WITH NO ANSWERS Birden Ay ışığını kesti Bir de Sen çok değiştin Yaşananlar hiç yaşanmamış gibi Söylenenler hiç söylenmemiş gibi Birde Sen karşıma geçtin Başka biri var, biri var dedin İnanamadım gittiğine,inanamadım gittiğine.. Sudenly moon  stopped giving light And you  changed a lot Like everything had never been lived Like everything had never been said And you had stood in front of me And said there was another one, another one... I couldnt believe that you had gone, that you had gone...   Ne sen baktın ardına ne ben Hep ayrı yollarda yürüdük Neither you looked back nor I We have always walked in different paths.   Sustu bu gece, karardı yine ay Kaldı geriye cevapsız sorular Uyandığında onu ilk kim görecek Bıraktığım düşü kim büyütecek? Today moon stopped speaking, it got dark Questions with no answers have remained back Who will first see her/him when he/she wakes up Who will raise my dream that I left?   Her sabah kaybolup giden Bir rüya gibi oldun artık gecelerimi bekleyen; Gündüzlerimi zehir eden.. You have become like a dream that waits my nights and disappear every morning poisoning them   Ne sen baktın ardına ne ben Hep ayrı yollarda yürüdük Neither you looked back nor I We have always walked in different paths. Sustu bu gece, karardı yine ay Kaldı geriye cevapsız sorular Uyandığında onu ilk kim görecek Bıraktığım düşü kim büyütecek? Today moon stopped speaking, it got dark Questions with no answers have remained back Who will first see her/him when he/she wakes up Who will raise my dream that I left?   Edited (7/15/2013) by gokuyum Edited (7/15/2013) by gokuyum Edited (7/16/2013) by gokuyum Edited (7/16/2013) by gokuyum

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1273.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2013 Mon 10:42 am   Quoting Abla Sometimes two minuses make one plus. How does it actually work?   "Blaablaablaaablaaa" diye düşünmüyor değilim                                   düşünmeyecek değilim                                   düşünmemiş değilim                                   düşünmez değilim                                   düşünmüyor değildim                                   BUT düşünmedim değil  (both correct)   is it?   More examples are welcomed.                              All these have positive meanings because double negative is positive. You can make them negative if you make the verbs positive. Because one positive and one negative is negative.   Ex: Düşünmüyor değilim = Düşünüyorum (Positive) Düşünüyor değilim = Düşünmüyorum (Negative)   Edited (7/15/2013) by gokuyum Edited (7/15/2013) by gokuyum Edited (7/15/2013) by gokuyum Edited (7/15/2013) by gokuyum Edited (7/15/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Mistakes please

1274.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2013 Mon 10:30 am   Quoting Turkish2412 Hello   I am practicing turkish every day alot and now i wanna see my progress.Please just tell me the mistakes i did from turkish text so i can learn it better. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------   Merhaba sevgili kardeş   öncelikle sana teşekkür etmek istiyorum herşey için. (word order is wrong) Öncelikle sana herşey için teşekkür etmek istiyorum. Benim ve annemiz in için herşeyi yaptın bu yüzden çok mutluyuz. Hayatımızı değiştirdin,biliyorum babamıza kızgınsın ve seni anlıyorum. (word order could be better) Hayatımızı değiştirdin, babamıza kızgın olduğunu biliyorum ve seni anlıyorum. Ben de ona kızgınım ama senin (kaçtığın) gibi kaçmadım. Amerika´ya gittin zaman gittiğinden beri herkes çok üzgün dür,n´olur ne olur eve gel ve sana söz veriyorum herşey iyi olacak. (word order could be better) herşeyin iyi olacağına sana söz veriyorum. Babamıza herşeyi açıklayacağım ve o anlayacak.   -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------   Hello dear brother/sister   Firstly i wanna thank you for everything. You did everything for our mother and for me and we are very happy because of it. You changed our life,i know you are mad on our father and i understand you I am also mad on him but i didn´t runned away like you. From time you went to america everyone is sad,please come home and i promise you that everything will be fine. I will everything explain to our father and he will understand.         If you have questions about my corrections, please ask. No question, no explanation Edited (7/15/2013) by gokuyum Edited (7/15/2013) by gokuyum Edited (7/15/2013) by gokuyum Turkish2412 liked this message

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1275.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2013 Mon 04:32 am Welcome back. Long time, no see nessah liked this message

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1276.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2013 Mon 04:32 am   Quoting nessah hasretinden pırangalar eskittim yüreğine kan gülleri dökeyim     I wore out shackles because of my longing to you, let me spill blood roses on your heart. nessah liked this message

Thread: Ignoring users

1277.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Jul 2013 Sun 02:30 pm Here is a block button for you handsome. When you want to block someone come here and imagine that you are blocking him. I am sure this will give you some satistification and some peace of mind

Thread: T 2 E please

1278.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Jul 2013 Sun 04:06 am   Quoting Kelowna explain the corrections for both abla and myself please   Abla´s translation is very good. Yours is also good but you did some mistakes. Edited (7/14/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: T 2 E please

1279.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Jul 2013 Sat 11:04 pm   Quoting Kelowna belki sadece birlikte olma sansimin olmadigi kisilere asik oluyorumdur. I thought - I am in love with someone only with no chance to be with. like a long distant relationship maybe.......   There is always a chance to be with the other in a long distant relationship unless you use distance as an excuse when things get serious elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: E to T please my attempt

1280.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Jul 2013 Sat 12:26 am   Quoting Inscrutable Ben planlayım ve Allah planlayı, ama Allah´nın planlayır her zaman tamamlandı. I plan and Allah plans, however Allah plans are always completed.   Thank you Ben de planlıyorum Allah da planlıyor. Ama Allah´ın planları her zaman tamamlanır.   Inscrutable liked this message

Thread: Srebrenitsa - Haluk Levent

1281.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Jul 2013 Sat 12:08 am   Quoting TheNemanja I´m ashamed that I´m Serb because because of that...   You are not responsible for that because you are a Serb. Everyone is responsible only for their own actions. kosara, slavica, Turkish2412, Alizeh, MilosBL990 and 3 others liked this message

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1282.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Jul 2013 Fri 10:39 pm   Quoting elenagabriela   gel, benimle iç, Yabancı gel, pişmanlık şarabını iç alma beni, hala, Yabancı  lanetlenmemi unutmak istemiyorum buraya niye gelmiştin, Yabancı cennetten o kadar uzak düşürsün, niye acı çekmek istediğimi görmüyör müsün, Yabancı veren canını yakmasından her şeyini al       hatalarım varsa çok özür dilerim.....       Nice try. I will correct your mistakes later. Maybe others would like to translate it too. hazzel liked this message

Thread: The RSH (RŞ) sound

1283.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Jul 2013 Fri 02:20 pm   Quoting denizli Can you hear ıt ın others? Here ıs an excellent lınk on the topıc: http://merhabaforums.com/turkish-language-f29/pronouncing-final-t11431.html            . In thıs lınk a begınner ınsısts they are hearıng ıt and the Turkısh speaker ınsısts they do not use ıt. It ıs a faınt or soft ş. So I may not be accurate to ın descrıbıng ıt as ´rş´. But somethıng ıs there, somethıng ıs after the ´r´. Because some speakers do thıs and some speakers just don´t add anythıng after the ´r´. Maybe r has a different sound concept in your language. It is possible.

Thread: All TIME ACTIVE USERS

1284.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Jul 2013 Fri 11:54 am   Quoting elenagabriela you are in our hearts..... Thank you. You are so kind

Thread: Help needed for Translation to Turkish

1285.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Jul 2013 Fri 11:52 am I guess I have an explanation:   onların ev-i : their home   This -i is possesive suffix for third person singular (o). But as you can see we can use it for third person plural (onlar) too   So I think maybe we should think that -lar is plural suffix and -ı is possive suffix (for third person singular) when we use "ları" for more than one possession. That way maybe we can explain why we dont say "larlari".   Note: I am not sure Edited (7/12/2013) by gokuyum Edited (7/12/2013) by gokuyum

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1286.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Jul 2013 Fri 09:52 am

Thread: Nihility

1287.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Jul 2013 Fri 09:28 am A nice verse from Necip Fazıl Kısakürek about nihility from his poem Çile. I like it a lot. Ateşten zehrini tattım bu okun, Bir anda kül etti can elmasımı. Sanki burnum, değdi burnuna "yok"un, Kustum öz ağzımdan kafatasımı. I tasted fiery poison of this arrow In a blink it turned my jewel of heart into ash. As if my nose had touched the nose of nihility I threw up my skull from my own mouth. Edited (7/12/2013) by gokuyum Edited (7/12/2013) by gokuyum Edited (2/10/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: Help needed for Translation to Turkish

1288.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Jul 2013 Fri 09:08 am   Quoting denizli I read about a 4th possıbılıty:ev-(ler)-leri-nde - in their housesBecause you can´t write lerleri. Is this true?   Yes you cant write "lerleri"

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

1289.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Jul 2013 Fri 08:53 am   Quoting TheNemanja       I know,but there is again new and new and new and new mistakes,than when I learn from them,I again start learn something new,than I forget what I have learnt..ohhhhhhh i´ll die before I learn Turkish.... I recommend you yoga    Edited (7/12/2013) by gokuyum TheNemanja liked this message

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1290.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Jul 2013 Fri 08:50 am   Quoting AlphaF     Fair enough; ask to be an exception. You can remain in her heart for ever.   Her?

Thread: POLİS MÜDAHALESİ

1291.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Jul 2013 Fri 08:48 am   Quoting AlphaF The subject here are the RULES we take from "foreigners", but fail to follow. No need to preach them their own stuff. We obviously need some education ourselves. I dont say teach them their rules just translate the text. Maybe foreigners will be more interested than Turks.   elenagabriela liked this message

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1292.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Jul 2013 Fri 08:46 am   Quoting AlphaF     Why dont you ignore us all ?   I dont want to be ignored by handsome. He is a very important person for me. MoustacheFan liked this message

Thread: The RSH (RŞ) sound

1293.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Jul 2013 Fri 08:45 am   Quoting denizli I just fınd thıs very ınterestıng.If you lısten closely, can you notıce thıs? Many Turkısh speakers wıll add a ´sh´ or ´ş´ sound when the words end ın ´r´. Maybe on the TV you can see thıs.   I am Turkish and I dont pronounce "ş" after "r". Maybe you hear that way denizli liked this message

Thread: POLİS MÜDAHALESİ

1294.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Jul 2013 Fri 12:49 am   Quoting AlphaF HUKUK AÇISINDAN POLİSİN HALKA MÜDAHALESİ “Avrupa İnsan Hakları Mahkemesi uygulamasında polisin bir gösteriyi güç kullanarak dağıtabilmesi için ön şart o gösterinin barışçıl olmamasıdır. Bizde çok yanlış anlaşılan husus şu. Polis ‘dağılın’ uyarısı yaptıktan sonra göstericiler dağılmazsa, güç kullanmasının meşru olduğu sanılıyor. Oysa barışçıl gösteriye ‘dağılın’ uyarısı yapmak hukuka aykırı olduğu için bu uyarıya uymayana kullanılan güç hangi oranda olursa olsun orantısızdır. Yani barışçıl göstericinin ister kolundan tutsun, ister gaz sıksın orantısız güçtür. Bir başka ayrıntı toplantı ve gösteri hakkının içine toplantı gösterinin yapılacağı yeri belirleme hakkı da giriyor. Yani barışçıl gösteri yapmak kaydıyla kişiler uygun gördükleri yerde toplantı ve gösteri düzenleyebilirler. Barışçıl davranmak kaydıyla. ‘Yer gösterdik, o yerde yapmadıkları için bu gösteriyi dağıttık’ denilemez. Bu da uygulamada sıklıkla karşılaşılan bir hukuksuzluk. Hata şurada. AİHS ve AİHM’i, hiçbir şekilde anlamadan genelge yayımlanıyor. Kanunları da AİHM ve AİHS’e uygun okumamız gerekiyor.” Metin Feyzioğlu - Türkiye Barolar Birliği Başkan Why dont you translate these texts to English alpha? Yours is not different than a propaganda that Turks make to Turks. But we already know what happens. The people dont know are foreigners.

Thread: The RSH (RŞ) sound

1295.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Jul 2013 Fri 12:45 am   Quoting denizli Been vısıtıng here for my fırst tıme, great experıence. Learned about the ´r´ prounouncıatıon at the end of the words as ´rsh´. For example ´onlarsh´ or ´onlarş´ for ´onlar´. I asked several Turkısh people here about it and they don´t seem to know what I am talkıng about. I am ın the Izmır area, most people here but not all seem to use ıt. I am so curıous so any ınformatıon about thıs, please let me know. Thanks!   - How dıd thıs start? - Is thıs related to a modern prounancıatıon? I was watchıng a movıe maybe 70´s and they dıd not use the ´rsh´ - Why aren´t Turkısh speakers aware they are usıng ıt? - Is thıs a regıonal accent?   Denis Hosdil I dont understand what you mean.

Thread: Ignoring users

1296.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Jul 2013 Fri 12:42 am I agree. Sometimes I behave like a troll but sometimes I share useful information If someone blocked me, it would be bad for him/her in the end. I wouldn´t want anybody to be in that position   (Especially you Kelowna) Edited (7/12/2013) by gokuyum Edited (7/12/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

1297.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Jul 2013 Thu 05:39 pm   Quoting TheNemanja       I know,but there is again new and new and new and new mistakes,than when I learn from them,I again start learn something new,than I forget what I have learnt..ohhhhhhh i´ll die before I learn Turkish.... After more than ten years I still make mistakes when I write in English. There is no end to learning.   elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: Dog Commands

1298.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Jul 2013 Thu 05:26 pm   Quoting Kelowna     why don´t you get on a bus and see what is in your own neighborhood before commenting We only have dog meals.

Thread: Dog Commands

1299.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Jul 2013 Thu 05:11 pm I am sure we can find good cat meals in some restaurants in Canada too

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

1300.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Jul 2013 Thu 04:35 am   Quoting TheNemanja thank you... i give up.   Instead of giving up, learn from your mistakes and study more. Not everything is easy in this life. elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

1301.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Jul 2013 Thu 01:09 am   Quoting TheNemanja Scrooge korkmuştu. ´´Ruh. Bak bana! Bu akşam çok şeyler i gördüm,dersimi öğrendim.Geleceğimi zamanımı değiştirebileleceğimi söyle,lütfen. Lütfen. ´´Ruh cevap vermedi. Aniden,Scrooge onun eski yatağına geri döndü yine. Sabahtı. Scrooge atlayıp pencereye koştu. ´´Ne Bugün hangi gün?´´,diye sokaktaki olan bir adama erkeğe diye sordu. ´´Bugün mü?´´,erkek adam büyük bir surpriz olarak şaşkınlıkla cevap verdi. ´´Neden ki,bügün Yılbaşı günüdür.´´ ´´Onu kaçırmadım demek..´´, diye Scrooge düşündü. ´´Allah seni korusun,Jacob Marley.´´ O andan itibaren o farklı bir adam oldu. Önce o erkeği adamı büyük bir hindi yi alıp (?) Cratchits´e onu vermek için gönderdi. Sonra da dışarı çıktı,sokağa. ´´Mutlu Noeller´´ Scrooge her gördügü kişiye "Mutlu Noeller" dedi. Can you check it? I was too lazy to write this text in English too,if you´re not sure for something ask me if it´s bad i won´t bother you any more.       TheNemanja liked this message

Thread: Translate pls t to e

1302.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jul 2013 Wed 06:45 pm , Edited (7/11/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Allah

1303.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jul 2013 Wed 06:40 pm   Quoting gokuyum Lâ havle ve lâ kuvvete illâ billâhil aliyyil azîm     By the way let me explain why I wrote this. When someone tests our patience, we say lâ havle. That is the beginning of this prayer. If you say this prayer Allah will give you power and patience.

Thread: Allah

1304.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jul 2013 Wed 06:31 pm Lâ havle ve lâ kuvvete illâ billâhil aliyyil azîm

Thread: Allah

1305.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jul 2013 Wed 06:19 pm   Quoting kashf-ul-eman     you can´t understand !!   I think you got your answer. Every language has different grammar. This is not about disrespecting Allah. Arabic language doesn´t even have capital letters. Do you think Arabs disrespect Allah too? ahmet_a1b2, elenagabriela and TheNemanja liked this message

Thread: Allah

1306.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jul 2013 Wed 06:09 pm   Quoting ikicihan In punctuation point of view it may or may not be disrespectful. In religious point of view it is not disrespectful because no capital letter thing is exist either in arabic or in islam.     Yeah there are no capital letters in Arabic. They just write some letters differently in the beginning, in the middle and in the end of the word. But that doesn´t mean there are capital letters. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090508142322AAx9bpV

Thread: Allah

1307.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jul 2013 Wed 05:57 pm   Quoting kashf-ul-eman     I don´t agree with this. in all the languages ALLAH is to be written as in capital form. i am not talking about only arabic aspects but for all the languages. it should be in capital form this is most respect full. If you think that way I respect you. But dont blame people of being disrespectful to Allah. Because they don´t.   elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: Allah

1308.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jul 2013 Wed 05:49 pm   Quoting kashf-ul-eman     it Should be in capital letters by all means. you are not writing the name of any ordinary person . This is the name of ALLAH Almighty who is the master of every thing İnşallah is one word in Turkish. Turkish is different than Arabic. It is not disrespectful. If it was, Turkish Muslim scholars would object it.   elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: Allah

1309.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jul 2013 Wed 05:39 pm   Quoting kashf-ul-eman     oh it means just because of grammer u will direspect the name ALLAH. strange !!   No it is not disrespectful when the way of writing is like that. Do you think all Turkish Muslims write it that way to disrespect Allah? Edited (7/10/2013) by gokuyum elenagabriela and TheNemanja liked this message

Thread: Allah

1310.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jul 2013 Wed 05:27 pm In Turkish I have never seen inşAllah or maşAllah. The grammar of the language doesn´t allow it. elenagabriela and Efi70 liked this message

Thread: Allah

1311.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jul 2013 Wed 05:13 pm   Quoting Abla Allah is a proper name. But in Turkish it also has so many uses in conversational phrases and sayings (allah allah, allahtan, allahın aşkına, inşallah, maşallah, allaha emanet ol). What is the correct spelling of these phrases? Should we use the capital letter and the apostrophe in writing?   Allah Allah Allah´tan Allah aşkına inşallah maşallah Allah´a emanet ol.   Writing "Allah" without capital letter is disrespectful. But you can write "inşallah" and "maşallah" without capital letter if the sentence doesn´t start with them. Edited (7/10/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: All TIME ACTIVE USERS

1312.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jul 2013 Wed 05:09 pm   Quoting alameda ...........so now what?      I dont know. Is there any other list to be on top?

Thread: Help required!!

1313.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jul 2013 Wed 05:03 pm   Quoting Abla   NERE- ´which place´                  + -DE ´in/on/at which place´(locative)                + -DEN ´from which place´                + -YE ´to which place´         Efi70, ikicihan and TheNemanja liked this message

Thread: All TIME ACTIVE USERS

1314.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jul 2013 Tue 10:44 pm   Quoting Abla You are there, gokuyum, isn´t it exciting! It was so easy All you need is a good polemic

Thread: Translate pls t to e

1315.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jul 2013 Tue 10:11 pm I would like to translate it but it is too long for me. But I will tell you what it is about. It seems you offended him and he curses you. Edited (7/9/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Translate pls t to e

1316.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jul 2013 Tue 10:03 pm Tunci is very good at translating +18 texts

Thread: Translate pls t to e

1317.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jul 2013 Tue 10:02 pm   Quoting ngn97141 Please can someone translate this for me. Its urgent... yazdıkların simdi geldi sende vijdan varmı lan bu kadar tribe girdin hangi yüzle yazıyosun bana bunları? hicmi gurur yok lan sende amk kaşarı taksiciyle sattın beni hala başın belada mı diye soruyosun merak etme senin gibi birisi için başım belaya girmez alışığım ben karakollara bana yapabileceğin en büyük yardımda hayatımdan siktirip gitmen olur. buralarda clup clup istanbul bodrum antalya eğlenip sikişeceğine siktir git 6 tane cocuğuna sahip cık sen 28 yaşına gelmişin hala kime güvenip kime güvenmeyeceğini bilmiyosun. yanındaki nasıl tanıttı beni sana bilmiyorum belkide seninde suçun yoktur. bana o şekilde davranan ilk kızsın işin açıkçası rezil ettin beni sokaklarda haa şunuda söyliyim yaptğm ettiğim hicbiseyden pisman degilim senin gibi 50 tane kaşarla geziyorum ben her hafta sonu sadece taksinin önüne atlayanını beni durduk yere karakola şikayet edenini ilk defa gördüm o biraz tuhafıma gitti o nasıl atlayışlar öyle matrix gibisin amk ikimizde rezil olduk ama sana onun anlamını ingilizce tercüme etsede bilmezsin senin lugatında yok o kelime yanindaki kaşarlada senin yolun açık olsun.. bu mübarek aydada daha fazla günaha sokmayın beni yeterince girdim zaten. senle aynı boku yiyen beni sana sapık tanıtan tercüman arkadaşına söyle tercüme etsin  Jasmine may be translate. haaydii eyw ikinizide öptümm +18

Thread: All TIME ACTIVE USERS

1318.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jul 2013 Tue 10:00 pm   Quoting thehandsom     would you care to give any names?   Dont worry handsome. I am sure your name is not on the list

Thread: E to T PLS

1319.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jul 2013 Tue 05:11 pm   Quoting Icmelergal Thank you once again xxxx   Is one of these "x"s for me?

Thread: Compound Game

1320.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jul 2013 Tue 04:28 pm   Quoting Abla   -ASI marks an ancient future tense which is only used in curses nowadays. boyu devrilesi ´I wish he would fall down dead´. I thought about it for many days (and I didn´t solve it on my own I must admit).                               devrilme çubuğu  -  ha! (onun) boyu devrilesi  If this is not a compund, what is this? I really dont know.

Thread: E - T

1321.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jul 2013 Tue 04:19 pm   Quoting jo8a How would you say ´I´m not made of money´ is a jokey way? Thanks for your help   You can say "I am not a money tree". Para ağacı değilim.

Thread: TOP 100 Turkish Poems

1322.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jul 2013 Tue 04:16 pm   Quoting Abla I mean I have got used to seeing the free verse only. No iambic pentameters, dactylic hexameters, trochees etc.   I dont like free ones as much as rhytmic ones. There is always a rhytm in my poems

Thread: Compound Game

1323.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jul 2013 Tue 04:11 pm   Quoting Abla   Very funny. This is not a compound at all.                                ...devrilme çubuğu   Why not?

Thread: E to T please

1324.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jul 2013 Tue 03:55 pm   Quoting Scott88 Hi! In the context of asking for marriage according to the Turkish culture norms. What would the accurate translation for a man surprising his girl: "When can I meet your father?" I´d so much appreciate your replies. Thx! Babanla ne zaman tanışabilirim?   Scott88 liked this message

Thread: All TIME ACTIVE USERS

1325.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jul 2013 Tue 03:41 pm   Quoting Elisabeth   One person´s silly nonsense is another´s relief from dreadful seriousness.     I am the antidote of mltm

Thread: TOP 100 Turkish Poems

1326.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jul 2013 Tue 03:36 pm   Quoting Abla   This is probably the only Turkish poem with rhymes and rhythm that I know. And I wonder why is that.   What do you mean abla?

Thread: All TIME ACTIVE USERS

1327.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jul 2013 Tue 03:33 pm   Quoting si++     Congratulations... Isn´t it enough for you to be listed there?   What´s the big deal being in top-20? It shows/reflects how much time you spent here.   You know what? A couple of months ago, I noticed that I would be listed there as well if I continue with my current pace then. That reminded me how much time I am spending (killing actually) here. That was then I slowed down and visited here less frequently afterwards.     I always want to be on top in whatever I do I know I spend a lot of time here but it is not always a waste of time. I improve my English doing translations and I give thought to Turkish grammar more because I want to answer people´s questions.

Thread: Ben - Barış Akarsu

1328.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jul 2013 Tue 04:34 am http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-Hl7yyo54w I think this is the best song of him. Here is my translation:   Ben Me Hep bir şeyler içimde Kayboldu sessizce Tükendi umutlar Yaşanmadan gizlice Always something inside me Has disappeared quietly Hopes have exhausted Without being lived, secretly. Bir zehir sardı bedeni Öldürmeyen süründüren Razıyım artık yeter Ne olur kurtar beni A poison has surrounded the body One that doesnt kill but makes you suffer. I consent, it is enough Please save me. Kayboldum tenimden Ne gelirki elimden Fırlattım tüm yalanları Çırılçıplak kaldım birden. I have disappeared from my skin What can I do? I threw all lies I found myself naked all of a sudden. Edited (7/9/2013) by gokuyum Edited (7/9/2013) by gokuyum Edited (7/9/2013) by gokuyum ng_hg_anh and etena liked this message

Thread: t to e

1329.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jul 2013 Tue 04:07 am   Quoting kah.linares Senden yana olanın da, Sana karşı olanın da bir değeri yok; Seni anlamadıkça.   There is no worth of one who is on your side and one who is against you untill they understand you.

Thread: What Love Has Done To Me? (Hymn)

1330.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jul 2013 Tue 03:29 am A great hymn of Yunus Emre http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8elt90a1GUg Here is the rock version from Barış Akarsu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGONNloE1ng   Ben yürürem yane yane Aşk boyadı beni kane Ne akilem ne divane Gel gör beni aşk neyledi I walk burning Love dyed me with blood I am neighter wise nor mad Come, see what love has done to me Gel gör beni beni aşk neyledi Derde giriftar eyledi Gel gör beni beni aşk neyledi Gel gör beni aşk neyledi Come, see what love has done to me. It made me addicted to grief Come, see what love has done to me Come see what love has done to me Gâh eserim yeller gibi Gâh tozarım yollar gibi Gâh coşarım seller gibi Gel gör beni aşk neyledi Sometimes I blow like winds Sometimes I raise a dust like roads Sometimes I overflow like floods Come, see what love has done to me. Gel gör beni beni aşk neyledi Derde giriftar eyledi Gel gör beni beni aşk neyledi Gel gör beni aşk neyledi Come, see what love has done to me. It made me addicted to grief Come, see what love has done to me Come see what love has done to me Ben yunusu bi´çareyim Dost elinden avareyim Baştan ayağa yareyim Gel gör beni aşk neyledi I am Yunus, I am desperate I am away from friends´ lands From head to foot I have wounds Come, see what love has done to me Gel gör beni beni aşk neyledi Derde giriftar eyledi Gel gör beni beni aşk neyledi Gel gör beni aşk neyledi Come, see what love has done to me. It made me addicted to grief Come, see what love has done to me Come see what love has done to me   Yunus Emre Edited (7/9/2013) by gokuyum Edited (7/9/2013) by gokuyum Edited (7/9/2013) by gokuyum Edited (7/9/2013) by gokuyum Edited (7/9/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: TOP 100 Turkish Poems

1331.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jul 2013 Tue 03:12 am Here is the number one: Beklenen The Waited Ne hasta bekler sabahı, Ne taze ölüyü mezar. Ne de şeytan, bir günahı, Seni beklediğim kadar. Neither a patient waits the morning Nor a grave waits the fresh dead And nor Satan waits a sin As long as I have waited you Geçti istemem gelmeni, Yokluğunda buldum seni; Bırak vehmimde gölgeni Gelme, artık neye yarar? It is too late now. I dont want you to come. I have found you in your absence Leave your shadow in my imagination Don´t come, what is the use of it now?   This is a great poem from Necip Fazıl Kısakürek.   Edited (7/9/2013) by gokuyum Edited (7/9/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: TOP 100 Turkish Poems

1332.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jul 2013 Tue 03:04 am Here is a list by users´ votes: http://www.antoloji.com/siir/top100/

Thread: Pleaseee check my translation

1333.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jul 2013 Tue 02:56 am   Quoting nifrtity O kişi That Person Sevme tamam mı Don´t love, okay? Beni sevme Don´t love me Beklenecekten fazla bekledin sevme You have waited more than enough, dont love. Ben gördüğünden, duyduğundan Bildiğinden ibaretim önce Firstly I consist of what you see, what you hear, what you know Sen hiç doğdun mu küllerinden Have you ever been born from your ashes? Yanmamışa göre konu biraz ince This is a complicated matter for someone who has never burnt Bundan böyle herkes tam ederi kadar From now on everybody is equal to their exact worth. Niye alemin tek üzüleni benim Why am I the only upset person of the universe? O telefonun durup durup çalmıyorsa If your phone doesnt ring time to time İşte seni aramayan o kişi benim See I am the one who doesnt call you Bundan böyle herkes tam ederi kadar Niye alemin tek üzüleni benim O telefonun durup durup çalmıyorsa İşte seni aramayan o kişi benim   This person Don´t love it is okay? Don´t love me Don´t love you are wait more than what is being expected I am from what you seen and what you hear That is before your born from ashes isn´t it my word from the knows according the few subtle of burining issue from this ,that is how much price for all people Why all the world up set from me If that telefon not work suddenly as you see this person who are calling you is me       Edited (7/9/2013) by gokuyum Edited (7/9/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Islak Islak - English Translation

1334.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jul 2013 Tue 02:39 am   Quoting alameda RIP Bariş. Where is the translation?       When you listen to the song they appear in boxes. Turn on annotations. Edited (7/9/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: All TIME ACTIVE USERS

1335.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jul 2013 Tue 02:37 am   Quoting alameda mltm´s post are pretty good, many on that list have gotten there by silly nonsencical posts.        Yeah I guess half of mines are silly too. But life is not fair

Thread: Fortunately - Unfortunately Game

1336.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jul 2013 Tue 01:23 am   Quoting Abla Allahtan kocamın gardırobundaki yüksek kopuklu ayakkabılarını henüz görmediler.   Ne yazık ki bu gerçeği uzun süre saklayamaz.

Thread: All TIME ACTIVE USERS

1337.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jul 2013 Tue 01:14 am   Quoting Abla   Maybe tonight.   Yeah I feel fit

Thread: All TIME ACTIVE USERS

1338.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jul 2013 Tue 01:09 am Will you give me a plaquette when I become one or some kind of a prize? If mltm will not decide to post something again, I will be one soon

Thread: Let´s teach Turkish to the people around us !

1339.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jul 2013 Tue 01:01 am   Quoting AlphaF     100 year into the new republic, some of our young citizens still request a translator in legal courts.   Sometimes I request a translator to understand women TheNemanja liked this message

Thread: Ottoman Poetry

1340.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jul 2013 Tue 12:46 am   Quoting Abla You have made some people sign death sentences with one hand and write sentimental poems with the other.   You have made some men conquer endless lands and fall on their knees in front of one lady.   There is goodness in everybody.

Thread: Let´s teach Turkish to the people around us !

1341.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jul 2013 Tue 12:37 am Our language is regular but we are not TheNemanja and Efi70 liked this message

Thread: Test-94

1342.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jul 2013 Tue 12:35 am I am looking for a lost suffix. Have anyone seen it? It is three letters and one of them is a vowel

Thread: E to T PLS

1343.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jul 2013 Tue 12:32 am Sometimes I ask: "Havent you died yet?" Daha ölmedin mi? TheNemanja liked this message

Thread: TEKNİK ÖĞRETMENLER

1344.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jul 2013 Tue 12:29 am I know Katana technic

Thread: Please translate this sentence

1345.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jul 2013 Tue 12:25 am   Quoting ahmet_a1b2     PS: Öyle cümleye böyle tercüme   Kel başa şimşir tarak

Thread: Please translate this sentence

1346.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jul 2013 Tue 12:16 am   Quoting Zulu Could anyone please translate this sentence I received from a friend through email. Thank you in advance     "Dua okul iyi ve ne kadar sana ben seni bana dua o odur Her sonra ne yapıyorsun her zaman geliyorlar umut bizi kurtaracak umut olan bozmaya yapmaya çalışın"   This looks like a google translation and it doesnt make sense.

Thread: Best Soundtracks

1347.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jul 2013 Mon 10:23 pm   Quoting gokuyum Clint Mansell - Death is the Road to Awe.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihF_aXi-Huk I am in Nirvana.

Thread: Best Soundtracks

1348.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jul 2013 Mon 10:20 pm Clint Mansell - Death is the Road to Awe.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihF_aXi-Huk

Thread: Dog Commands

1349.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jul 2013 Mon 10:13 pm Why do you eat poor frogs? It is not different than eating a cat. Gross.

Thread: Depression Poems :)

1350.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jul 2013 Mon 10:08 pm Come drink with me stranger Come drink the wine of regret Do not take me yet stranger I dont want to be cursed to forget Why did you come here stranger? Why are you so far from heaven? Don’t you see I want to suffer stranger? Except the pain take everything given                                               Gokuyum hazzel liked this message

Thread: Islak Islak - English Translation

1351.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jul 2013 Mon 08:52 pm This song is one of my favorites. It is a Cem Karaca cover. Barış Akarsu (1979-2007) sings it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekbLrIj3bHk ng_hg_anh liked this message

Thread: Dog Commands

1352.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jul 2013 Mon 08:39 pm   Quoting Kelowna what happens to the frog that lies   Frogs never lie

Thread: Dog Commands

1353.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jul 2013 Mon 07:34 pm   Quoting Kelowna     that was not a girl he kissed it was more like a horse   I am sure you kissed horses too

Thread: Dog Commands

1354.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jul 2013 Mon 07:30 pm   Quoting vona     you mean prince charles?    He is a handsome fellow.

Thread: Dog Commands

1355.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jul 2013 Mon 06:53 pm   Quoting Kelowna     maybe you should get a dog, she won´t discriminate and you could rent her out for extra income     Who would pay 1 dollar to kiss a dog? I dont know if we have enough pervert here. But if I was in Canada, I am sure I would earn a lot of money

Thread: Dog Commands

1356.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jul 2013 Mon 06:36 pm   Quoting AlphaF     Many girls kiss hundreds of frogs, hoping that one may turn into a prince... What if a girl kiss a prince and he turns into a frog?

Thread: Dog Commands

1357.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jul 2013 Mon 05:55 pm   Quoting Kelowna looks like these guys are guarding the kitchen ewwwwwwwwwwwwww         Some people even kiss their dogs from their lips. But they think some men are so ugly to kiss

Thread: TEKNİK ÖĞRETMENLER

1358.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jul 2013 Mon 05:44 pm   Quoting Kelowna those who can´t do teach   What are they?

Thread: Let´s teach Turkish to the people around us !

1359.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jul 2013 Mon 02:01 pm Lets first start with teaching Turkish to Turks. Even some intellectuals dont know how to write a proper sentence. Edited (7/8/2013) by gokuyum tunci liked this message

Thread: TEKNİK ÖĞRETMENLER

1360.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jul 2013 Mon 01:57 pm Which technic?

Thread: Ottoman Poetry

1361.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Jul 2013 Sun 03:03 am Dest-i kudretle yoğ iken âlemi var eyledün Kimisini Müslim kılıp kimini küffâr eyledün When the universe didn´t exist, you created it with the hand of might You have made some people muslim, some people infidels Hardan güller bitürdün nahlden hurma-yı ter İbret içün kullarına hikmet izhâr eyledün You have made roses grow from thorns, fresh dates from date palms You have showed your wisdom to believers for them to take lessons.   Kimine virdün bihişt ü hil´at ü tâc ü kemer Kiminün yerin cehennem menzilin nâr eyledün You have given some people heaven, rob of honor, crown and belt You have made some people´s place hell, their inn fire.   Kiminin kaddini kıldın serv ü ar´ardan yüce Gözleri yaşın kiminin  cû-yı enhâr eyledin You have made some people taller than cypress and juniper You have made some people´s tears like the rivers   Rûzu rûşen eyledin emrinle gün etdi tulû´ Geceyi encümler  ile zeyn edip târ eyledin You have made day bright, by your order sun has risen You have decorated night with stars and made it dark   Güller ile gül-şen içre hârı kıldın hem-nişîn Geceler tâ subha dek bülbülleri zâr eyledin You have made roses and thorns sit together in rose-garden You have made nighingales cry from night to morning.   Zâhide erzâni kıldın Kevser ü hûr u behişt Bu Muhibbi bendeni müştâk-ı dîdâr eyledin You have made Kevser, houris and heaven worthy for conservatives You have made your servant Muhibbi desirous of your face.                                                   Muhibbi (Magnificent Suleiman) Edited (7/7/2013) by gokuyum Edited (7/7/2013) by gokuyum Edited (7/7/2013) by gokuyum tunci liked this message

Thread: Test-93

1362.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Jul 2013 Sun 01:42 am Fill the gap:   Eden _________ eder. tunci and caliptrix liked this message

Thread: thinking ahead to ramadan

1363.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Jul 2013 Sun 01:37 am Don´t forget Ramadan is also month of abundance. caliptrix liked this message

Thread: Who Can Translate This Turkish Riddle?

1364.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Jul 2013 Sun 01:34 am   Quoting impulse Another one (I hope you do not search for these on google )   Uzaktan baktım hiç yok yakından baktım pek çok   Translations and answer   Pire?

Thread: Such Beautiful Lyrics in Ahmet Kaya Song

1365.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Jul 2013 Sun 01:29 am   Quoting Abla Kum gibi   Martılar ağlardı çöplüklerde  - biz seninle gülüşürdük. Şehirlere bombalar yağardı her gece   - biz durmadan sevişirdik.   Seagulls used to cry in the dumps  - we laughed with each other. It used to rain bombs every night  - we made love continuously.   ****************   Acımasız olma şimdi bu kadar. Dün gibi dün gibi çekip gitme. Bırak da sarılayım ayaklarına. Kum gibi kum gibi ezip geçme.   Don’t be so merciless now. Don’t walk away like yesterday. Come on let me hug your feet. Don’t sweep away like sand.   **************** Acımasız olma şimdi bu kadar. Dün gibi dün gibi çekip gitme. Bırak da dolanayım ayaklarına. Kum gibi kum gibi ezip geçme.   Don’t be so merciless now. Don’t walk away like yesterday. Come on let me wrap around your feet. Do not sweep away like sand.   ****************** Sonbahar damlardı damlarımıza  - biz seninle sararırdık. Aydınlansın diye şu kirli yüzler  - biz durmadan şavaşırdık.   Autumn added raindrops to our tears  - Autumn used to drip on our roofs we turned pale. In order to prevent those dirty faces from being lightened In order to make these dirty faces enlighted we used to fight continuously.     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k18qloSRtgA

Thread: E 2 T ~just help

1366.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Jul 2013 Thu 02:35 pm   Quoting TheNemanja The man who didn´t know what to do. Ne yaptığını bil  e  meyen bir adam.     Edited (7/4/2013) by gokuyum TheNemanja liked this message

Thread: Army ousts Egypt´s President Morsi

1367.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Jul 2013 Thu 01:09 am Coup is not a solution. It looks like it but it is not. It only creates victims.

Thread: i have most of them, what about you? :)

1368.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Jul 2013 Thu 12:42 am I have them too. Is it normal or should I go to see a pshycolog? Are you available?

Thread: Five Short Sentences For Turkish Learnes to Translate.

1369.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Jul 2013 Thu 12:36 am   Quoting TheNemanja     Well it´s not hard,just the problem for me is my terrible English. It´s always barrier for me in learning Turkish.  I could translate this sentences into my language. ~    Good try nemanja but the translation of fifth sentence is problematic. I dont know how to translate it literally too. My try: I am enough handsome to make an orangutan jealous.   TheNemanja liked this message

Thread: Special message - e to t pls!

1370.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jul 2013 Wed 11:40 pm   Quoting elenagabriela it is very hard to be woman, believe me   It looks easy. But I wouldnt try TheNemanja liked this message

Thread: Special message - e to t pls!

1371.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jul 2013 Wed 11:36 pm Yes and no are more than enough elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: Turkish

1372.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jul 2013 Wed 11:34 pm Okay bring me lemonade too

Thread: Special message - e to t pls!

1373.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jul 2013 Wed 11:33 pm   Quoting elenagabriela because you men dont listen us...   Maybe that is because you dont tell us what we want to hear

Thread: Turkish

1374.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jul 2013 Wed 11:32 pm   Quoting elenagabriela     ağlama artık..       Is it free?

Thread: Five Short Sentences For Turkish Learnes to Translate.

1375.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jul 2013 Wed 11:31 pm   Quoting Kelowna give us more easy sentences please   Here are five sentences from me. I hope they are not too hard.   1. Ben uçan bir kediyim ama kanatlarım yok. 2. Bir maymundan tek farkım muz sevmemem. 3. Üçe kadar saymayı öğrenmek üç yılımı aldı. 4. Fındık kırmak için taş yerine kafamı kullanırım. 5. Bir orangutanı kıskandıracak kadar yakışıklıyım. MarioninTurkey, caliptrix and impulse liked this message

Thread: Turkish

1376.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jul 2013 Wed 11:24 pm   Quoting Kelowna I played the game questions and got them all right however at the end they want your email address and money   Why do they want money for everything? I dont want money for my translations and even for my brilliant jokes jolanaze liked this message

Thread: tr to eng

1377.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jul 2013 Wed 11:20 pm   Quoting necla Ok, so is there some mistake? Or not?    No mistake.

Thread: Şafak Pavey

1378.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jul 2013 Wed 10:16 pm Alpha´nın gözünün çapağıyız

Thread: tr to eng

1379.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jul 2013 Wed 10:14 pm   Quoting necla Teşekküler Abla! İyi geceler   Dont thank her before I check her translations

Thread: Turkish

1380.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jul 2013 Wed 09:58 pm   Quoting AlphaF Some of you may already be familiar with "LEARN TURKISH WITH BABBEL" You can still have fun with the exercises they offer...good luck !   http://lp.babbel.com/d/ENG_index.html?l1=ENG&l2=TUR&ch=SEM   I have a better method. "Learn Turkish With Me" :It is free for beautiful women jolanaze and caliptrix liked this message

Thread: Special message - e to t pls!

1381.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jul 2013 Wed 09:55 pm This is a very long text. Why do you women always have to write long?

Thread: Turkish man wears helmet-like head cage to quit smoking

1382.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jul 2013 Wed 12:26 am   Quoting tunci         What is the use of it whenever you want you can take it off? You cant pretend like it is locked. Maybe he is so high and he wants to prevent his head fly away Edited (7/3/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: E - T

1383.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jul 2013 Wed 12:22 am   Quoting ahmet_a1b2 Tam da sana en çok ihtiyacım olduğu anda, neredesin? neredesin?       ahmet_a1b2 liked this message

Thread: ÖRNEK BİR AKİL ADAM

1384.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jul 2013 Wed 12:15 am Ben de bizim köyün akiliyim

Thread: Compound Game

1385.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jul 2013 Wed 12:14 am   Quoting Abla etek boyu   boyu devrilesi

Thread: Compound Game

1386.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jun 2013 Sun 10:58 pm   Quoting tunci     ekmeğin  eksiksizliği   eksiksiz eksiklik

Thread: Compound Game

1387.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jun 2013 Sun 10:53 pm   Quoting tunci     sucuk  ekmek ekmek ekmeği

Thread: Compound Game

1388.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jun 2013 Sun 10:51 pm   Quoting tunci     adamın sucuksuz  hayatı   hayat sucuğu

Thread: Compound Game

1389.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jun 2013 Sun 10:46 pm   Quoting tunci     yumurtalı  sucuk    sucuksuz adam

Thread: Compound Game

1390.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jun 2013 Sun 10:42 pm   Quoting tunci     yumurta  tüketimi  [ Serbest cümle olsaydı "yumurta kapıya dayandı " diyecektim ]     tüketimci yumurta

Thread: Test-90

1391.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jun 2013 Sun 10:28 pm   Quoting tunci     Fevkalade !!!    0  out of  100  !!  Well done    Başarısızlığının devamını dilerim Gok !    Well at least others will not make the same mistakes I made tunci liked this message

Thread: Compound Game

1392.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jun 2013 Sun 10:25 pm   Quoting thehandsom     Yumurtali ekmek   ekmeksiz yumurta

Thread: Test-90

1393.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jun 2013 Sun 10:23 pm   Quoting tunci     Complete the missing parts ;     1.  Kim   ben i____     gelmek   istiyor ?      2.   İşe   her  gün  metro yu____     gidiyorum.     3.   Kim den____     görüşmek  istiyorsunuz ?     4.    Ankaraya____    İstanbul  arası   arabadan____     üç   buçuk  saat.     5.     Lütfen  burada   yüksek   sessiz____      konuşmayın.     6.     Ayşe,  ailesine____     oturuyor.     7.      Onu______     nerede   tanıştın ?     8.       Kahvaltıda   yumurtadan____    peynir   yedim.         my try elenagabriela, lana-, Abla and tunci liked this message

Thread: Turkish Art Music

1394.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jun 2013 Sun 12:18 am http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rynAaevb_zU Zeki Müren -Ağla Gitar Çal Gitar   Ağla Gitar Çal Gitar Şarkı Sözü Cry Guitar, Play Guitar   İçimde nice uzun yılların özlemi var Bu gece efkarlıyım Ağla gitar... Çal, çal, çal gitar Bu gece efkarlıyım Ağla gitar... Çal, çal, çal gitar There is the longing of so many long years in me I feel down tonight Cry guitar... Play, play, play guitar I feel down tonight Cry guitar... Play, play, play guitar Bitmesin bu sarhoşluk Sürsün sabaha kadar Bu gece efkarlıyım Ağla gitar... Çal, çal, çal gitar Bu gece efkarlıyım Ağla gitar... Çal, çal, çal gitar Don´t let this drunkness end Let it last untill morning I feel down tonight Cry guitar... Play, play, play guitar I feel down tonight Cry guitar... Play, play, play guitar

Thread: Compound Game

1395.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jun 2013 Sat 11:33 pm   Quoting Abla taş merdiven   merdiven aralığında aşk

Thread: Acem Pilavi

1396.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jun 2013 Sat 10:54 pm There is a saying in Turkish: Papaz her gün pilav yemez. Priests dont eat rice every day.   That means you cant make a person do something over and over again. Abla liked this message

Thread: My try - English to Turkish

1397.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jun 2013 Sat 10:41 pm   Quoting deli_degilim Hi, can someone please tell me if I have this sentence correct please   gerçek aşk istiyorum   şimdiden teşekkürler What is wrong with the fake one? Some people even can´t find it

Thread: Ki

1398.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jun 2013 Sat 10:34 pm ki is not always seperate. There is a conjunction ki and suffix ki. You write conjunction ki seperate but suffix ki together.   Evdeki resim: Here ki makes adjective. The picture which is at home. Seninki gelmedi. Here ki makes an possesive pronoun. Yours haven´t come.

Thread: e2t very short

1399.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jun 2013 Fri 12:00 pm You come too late. I sleep early

Thread: Help needed for Translation to Turkish

1400.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jun 2013 Thu 08:37 pm   Quoting denizli I will be travelling to Izmir soon. I need some Turkish help.   Are these correct?   Who is right? Kim doğru? Is Turkey safe now? Şimdi Türkiye güvenli?   Actually we don´t say "Kim doğru?" We say "Kim haklı?" or "Kim doğru söylüyor?"

Thread: E2T lütfen!

1401.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jun 2013 Thu 08:31 pm   Quoting beautifullies28 A friend asked me to help her translate and I obviously do not know much to even try.  If you could help me help her that´d be great!!   Lütfen ve teşekkür ederim.       "I have wondered why we fight so much. Why we question everything, and, I have come to realize it is because we love each other too much. We think it is too good to be true. We need to just believe and enjoy this. You love me, I know this. And I love you, I want you to believe this,  and trust that everything will be alright"   Neden bu kadar çok kavga ediyoruz merak ediyorum?. Neden her şeyi sorguluyoruz?. Bunun nedeninin birbirimizi çok sevmemiz olduğunu farkettim. Bunun gerçek olmak için fazla iyi olduğunu düşünüyoruz. Artık buna inanmalı ve bundan keyif almalıyız. Beni sevdiğini biliyorum ve ben de seni seviyorum. Buna inanmanı istiyorum ve her şeyin yolunda gideceğine güvenmeni de. farah25 and beautifullies28 liked this message

Thread: TRANSLATION REQUEST ON ART LITERATURE AND PHILISOPH

1402.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jun 2013 Thu 07:47 pm This is not a translation request, this is a harakiri challenge Edited (6/27/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: e2t very short

1403.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jun 2013 Thu 07:42 pm I have already forgotten you Edited (6/27/2013) by gokuyum nessah liked this message

Thread: Gokuyum´s Favorite Folk Songs ;)

1404.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Jun 2013 Sun 06:56 pm Mamoş Ballad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUeY2KIU4ik Pencereden bir taş geldi Ben sandımki mamoş geldi Uyan mamoş mamoş uyan Başımıza ne iş geldi A stone came through window I thought Mamoş came. Wake up Mamoş, wake up What happened to us?   Mamoş palton tutayım mı ? Hayrına satayım mı ? Di gah mamoş mamoş di gah Başımıza yığıldı halk Mamoş should I keep your coat? Or should I sell it for the good of someone? Get up Mamoş, Mamoş get up Folk gathered around us   Eyvah mamoş mamoş eyvah Tabib çağır yarama bak Mamoş ninni mamoş ninni Bilimez kim kime kinlii Oh my God Mamoş, Mamoş oh my God Call a doctor, look at my wound Mamoş hush, hush Mamoş It is not known who has a grudge   Edited (6/23/2013) by gokuyum rumeysa liked this message

Thread: E2T plz

1405.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Jun 2013 Sun 10:27 am   Quoting nessah   most girls in my country would not care what their parents tell them about their boyfriends, but i do. if i want to live in a dream world, i would stay with ömer. but at some point in your life u have to face the reality. if my parents would say to me, "yes lets go and meet ömer and talk with him." and they would like him. then i swear to god i would never ever in my life leave him.   Ülkemdeki çoğu kız ailelerinin erkek arkadaşları hakkında ne dediklerine pek önem vermiyor ama ben veriyorum. Eğer bir hayal dünyasında yaşamak isteseydim, Ömer´le kalırdım. Ama hayatının bir noktasında gerçekle yüzleşmen gerekiyor. Eğer ailem bana evet git Ömer´le buluşup konuş deseler ve onu sevselerdi Allah´a yemin ederim ki hayatım boyunca ondan hiç ayrılmazdım.

Thread: t2e please

1406.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Jun 2013 Sun 12:10 am   Quoting nessah Evlilikte eşinizi mum gibi eritip istediğiniz şekle sokmayı düşünürseniz baştan kaybedersiniz. Eşiniz eritilip şekilden şekile sokulan değil, evlilik yolunun karanlığını aydınlatan bir mum olmalıdır. If you think about melting your partner like a candle and form him/her the way you want in marriage, it is a lost cause since the beginning. Your partner must be a candle enlightens the darkness of marriage´s way not a candle which is given shape being melted.   Edited (6/23/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: t2e please

1407.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jun 2013 Sat 11:13 pm Meh

Thread: Gokuyum´s Favorite Folk Songs ;)

1408.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jun 2013 Sat 11:00 pm Halil İbrahim Balad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GH09qhRMfb4   Dağda gızıl ot biter, içinde keklik öter Eşkiyadan da beter, uslan be halil ibrahim Kıvırcık saçlarına, kar düşmüş uçlarına Dağın yamaçlarına yaslan be halil ibrahim Red grass grows on the mountain, in it partridge sings He is worse than a bandit, settle down o Halil İbrahim. Snow felt on tips of your curly hair Lean against montain sides o Halil İbrahim. Derede su durulur, daldan köprü kurulur El yerine vurulur, aslan be halil ibrahim Kıvırcık saçlarına, kar düşmüş uçlarına Dağın yamaçlarına, yaslan be halil ibrahim  Water settles down in the brook, a bridge is built of branch He is shot instead of others, Halil İbrahim is a lion. Snow felt on tips of your curly hair Lean against montain sides o Halil İbrahim. Müfreze dağı sarar dağda kaçaklar arar Geçit vermez kayalar, hızlan be halil ibrahim Kıvırcık saçlarına, kar düşmüş uçlarına Dağın yamaçlarına yaslan be halil ibrahim   Batallion surrounded the mountain, they search for runaways Rocks dont give passage, hurry o Halil İbrahim Snow felt on tips of your curly hair Lean against montain sides o Halil İbrahim.   LonsingerAmber liked this message

Thread: Great Poem From Mehmet Akif Ersoy

1409.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jun 2013 Wed 11:58 am This poem was written for Ottoman emperor II. Abdülhamit by Mehmet Akif Ersoy.    .....................................................  Bir şahsa esîr olmayı bir koskoca millet,  Mekrinle mi yâ Rab sanıyor kendine devlet? Dünyâyı yakıp yıkmaya bir seyf-i teaddî,  Emrinle mi yâ Rab ediyor böyle tesaddî? Zâlimlere kahrın o kadar verdi ki meydân: “Yok âdil-i mutlak!” diyecek ye’s ile vicdân! Yerden çıkıyor göklere bin âh-ı şererbâr, Gökler ediyor sâde çıkan nâleyi tekrâr! Bir yanda yanar lânesi bin hâne-harâbın, Bir yanda söner lem’ası milyonla şebâbın. Kalmış eli böğründe felâketzede mâder; Evlâdını gömmüş kara topraklara, inler. Ağlar beriden bir sürü âvâre-i tâli’, Nanpâre için eyleyerek ırzını zâyi’, Bükmüş oradan boynunu binlerce yetîmân, Me’vâ arıyor âileler lâne-perîşân! Mazlûm şikâyette, nedâmette sitemkâr; Hûnâbe-i maktûle garîk olmada hunhâr! Bîmârı, felâketliyi, üryânı, sefîli, Meflûcu, amel-mândeyi, miskîni, zelîli, Gaddârı, cefâ-dîdeyi, mahkûmu, esîri, Heyhât, şu pâyansız olan cemm-i gafîri Teşhîr ile şöhret kazanan sahne-i dünyâ Gelmez mi İlâhî sana bir kanlı temâşâ?                                                                          Mehmet Akif Ersoy/Safahat Does a great nation think it is a blessing To be captive of a person by your order o God? Does a sword of opression to burn and destroy the world Attack like this by your command o God? Your fury let opressors do what they want Even conscience  will say with despair there is no divine justice. Thousands of sparkling sighs raise to heavens Heavens only repeat the raising sighs On one side houses of thousands of poors are burning On the other side the light of millions of youngsters is faded A stricken mother whose hand is on her chest Moans because she burried his son into black soil. Many unfortunate people cry losing their honor In order to eat a handful of bread. Thousands of orphans bowed their heads down Families who lost their homes look for a shelter. Opressed people complains, oppressors are in regret Bloody murderer is drowned in the blood of his victims. Don´t you think the world scene famous with showing ---Sick, stricken, naked, miserable, paralysed, incapable Poor, unworthy, cruel, troubled, captived people, Unfortunately all this endless crowd--- Presents a bloody watch o God?         Edited (6/19/2013) by gokuyum Edited (6/19/2013) by gokuyum Edited (6/19/2013) by gokuyum Edited (6/19/2013) by gokuyum Edited (6/19/2013) by gokuyum Edited (6/19/2013) by gokuyum Edited (6/19/2013) by gokuyum Edited (6/19/2013) by gokuyum Edited (6/19/2013) by gokuyum Edited (6/19/2013) by gokuyum Edited (6/19/2013) by gokuyum Edited (7/12/2013) by gokuyum elenagabriela, tunci, harp00n and Alizeh liked this message

Thread: Gezi Songs

1410.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jun 2013 Wed 11:25 am   Quoting thehandsom http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpvUSjaSeLg Duman - Eyvallah biberine gazına, jopuna sopasına tekmelerin hasına, eyvallah eyvallah saldır bana utanmadan, sıkılmadan gözlerim yanar ama ezilmedim, azalmadım özgürüm dedim hala haklıyım dedim hala sana, sanaa insanız dedik hala vazgeçer miyim söyle bana   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IALDK63fhkw Here is the song with english subtitles. This song is cry of my soul. foka liked this message

Thread: Kutadgu Bilig

1411.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jun 2013 Sun 11:04 am Kim erdem ile elini uzatırsa yüce dağlar bile başlarını eğer (sy. 107) For whom gives his hand with virtue, even great mountains bow their heads.   Ülkeler kılıçla alınır, kalemle elde tutulur. (sy. 109) Lands are taken by sword, but they are held by pencil.   İnsan iyiliğe karşı on iyilik yapar. (sy. 119) People do ten favors in return of a one favor.   Yasa su, zulüm ise ateş gibidir. (sy. 123) The law is like water, opression is like fire.   Bey kapısı huzur kapısıdır. Huzur kapısında haksızlık olmaz. (sy 119) The door of a ruler is the door of peace. No injustice should be in front of it.   Bilgisiz kimse ibadetten bir sevap kazanamaz. (sy 129) An ignorant person can´t gain any reward from God with his worshipping. Yalnız ibadetine güvenen insan henüz Allah´ı memnun edecek yolu bulamamış demektir. Sen Allah´ın senden razı olmasını diliyorsan Müslümanların senden memnun olmasını sağlamalısın. (sy 130 ) * A person who only trusts in his worshipping hasn´t yet found the way to please Allah. If you want to please Allah, you should first please Muslims. İbadet ve taatte bulundum diye gururlanma. İbadete devam et, Allah´a ibadet eden insan azizdir. Namaz kıl, Allah´a kulluğun budur. Fakat ibadet ettim diye idrakini kaybetme. (sy 130 ) *   Dont feel proud becaue you worshipped. Keep on worshipping, a person who worships Allah is blessed. Perform the namaz, it is your duty to Allah. But dont lose your reason because you worshipped.   * Yusuf Has Hacip, Kutadgu Bilig (Haz. Yaşar Çağbayır), Türkiye Diyanet Vakfı Yayınları, Ankara 2012 Edited (6/16/2013) by gokuyum Edited (6/16/2013) by gokuyum Edited (6/16/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: New generation of Turks/ Taksim Park

1412.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jun 2013 Sun 04:12 am   Quoting Kelowna hopefully there is a bullet with his name on it in the very near future.   What does this mean Kelowna? Even if he is a troll, nobody deserves violance.

Thread: Some Verses and Hadits For Understanding People

1413.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jun 2013 Sat 02:28 pm   Quoting Alizeh JAZAKALLAH gokuyum! Thanx for sharing, all these Hadith and verses teach us to stay away from arrogance and jealousy because these two were the first sins ever comitted and they turned azazeel into iblees....   Yes. Thank you for reminding me the fall of Satan too. He was the most righteous among angels but his arrogance and hubris became his doom. There is a big lesson to take here. Alizeh liked this message

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1414.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jun 2013 Sat 02:25 pm   Quoting kashf-ul-eman     at one time you will follow the rules too. your interset will be boost up day by day. inshAllah   Amin.

Thread: Some Verses and Hadits For Understanding People

1415.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jun 2013 Sat 02:21 pm   Quoting kashf-ul-eman     hmmmm its good you are following Hadits, but it will be too good if you follow the rules too.   I agree.  I am like a man who knows the theory but doesnt practise it. I have a weak will and I am lazy that is why I cant follow some rules.

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1416.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jun 2013 Sat 02:09 pm   Quoting kashf-ul-eman     but at this plateform you must have to share complete refrence to avoid ambiguity. Maybe but I guess I proved that I am trustable

Thread: Some Verses and Hadits For Understanding People

1417.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jun 2013 Sat 02:04 pm   Quoting kashf-ul-eman     gokuyum i will just say no scholar ,no book , and no knowledge of the world is more than Bukhari shareef and Quran _e_Majeed.These are above all from rest of others. we should trust in these with fully devotion. You misunderstand me. If a good scholar says I quoted this from Buhari or Quran, I trust him even if he doesnt give the complete reference. That is what I am trying to tell.   Edited (6/15/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Some Verses and Hadits For Understanding People

1418.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jun 2013 Sat 01:55 pm   Quoting kashf-ul-eman     most of the people dont know the right Hadits for this purpose you have to tell them copmletely. you will find this thing in coming Hadits when you will study, that what i m telling you!   Yeah you are right. But still I dont fully agree with you about always giving complete references. I read many books written by respectable scholars. And even they dont always give complete references when they quote a hadith. But instead of suspecting them, I prefer to trust them. Because they have a good name and they are really trustable.

Thread: e2t pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

1419.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jun 2013 Sat 01:50 pm Thank you Faruk. You released me from a big burden

Thread: Some Verses and Hadits For Understanding People

1420.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jun 2013 Sat 01:44 pm   Quoting kashf-ul-eman   Bukhar shareef complete name of this book is "SAHI BUKHARI " is most trustable book of Hadits among all.I have the complete volume of Bukhari shareef. it comprises of 8 volumes or books.     It is good. Then you can find the hadiths I quoted there.

Thread: Some Verses and Hadits For Understanding People

1421.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jun 2013 Sat 01:43 pm Allah´a ve son güne iman eden her kişi, hayır söylesin yahut sussun.  Hadith/Buhari Someone who believes in Allah and the judgement day should always say good things or be quiet. Fasil : KİTÂBÜ`L-EDEB Konu : Boşboğazlılık etmemek;Komşu hakkı;Misâfir ağırlamak Ravi : Ebû Hüreyre Baslik : KOMŞUSU ZULMÜNDEN, ŞERRİNDEN EMÎN OLMIYAN KİŞİ HAKÎKATEN ÎMÂN ETMİŞ OLMAZ, HADÎSİ Hadis : Rivâyete göre, Nebî Salla`llahu aleyhi ve sellem şöyle buyurmuştur: Allah`a ve âhiret gününe îmân edip inanan kişi, komşusuna ezâ etmesin ve Allah`a, ahîret gününe îmâneden her kişi misâfirlerine ikram etsin ve Allah`a, âhiret gününe îmân eden her kişi hayırsöylesin, yâhut sussun (boşboğazlık etmesin). HadisNo : 1981

Thread: Some Verses and Hadits For Understanding People

1422.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jun 2013 Sat 01:41 pm Münafığın alameti üçtür: Söz söylediği zaman yalan söyler, kendisine bir şey emniyet edildiği zaman hıyanet eder, vaat ettiği zaman sözünde durmaz. Hadith/Buhari There are three omens for a mischief-maker. When he says something, he lies; when someone trust him with something he betrays; when he promises something, he doesn´t keep his promise.   Here comes the other one   Fasil : KİTÂBÜ`L-ÎMÂN Konu : Ahdi bozmak (ahde vefâsızlık);Emânete hıyânet;Münâfığın alâmetleri;Verdiği sözü tutmamak;Yalancılar Ravi : Ebû Hüreyre Baslik : MÜNÂFIK`IN ALÂMETLERİNE DÂİR EBÛ HÜREYRE VE ABDULLÂH İBN-İ AMR HADÎSLERİ Hadis : Şöyle demiştir: Nebiyy-i Muhterem salla`llâhu aleyhi ve sellem buyurdu ki: Münâfık`ın alâmetleri üçtür. Söz söylerken yalan söyler. Va`d ettiği vakit sözünde durmaz. Kendisine bir şey emniyet edildiği zaman hıyânet eder. HadisNo : 31

Thread: Some Verses and Hadits For Understanding People

1423.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jun 2013 Sat 01:37 pm Merhamet etmeyene merhamet olunmaz Hadith/Buhari Someone who doesnt show mercy will not be shown mercy   I made a search for this hadith and I found the information below. I am sure I can find the complete references for the other hadiths. Because the book I read the hadiths is very trusted.  Fasil : KİTÂBÜ`L-EDEB Konu : Merhametsize merhamet olunmaz Ravi : Cerîr b. Abdullâh el-Becelî Baslik : CERÎR İBN-İ ABDULLÂH`IN RİVÂYET ETTİĞİ: MERHAMET ETMİYEN KİMSEYE MERHAMET OLUNMAZ, HADÎSİ Hadis : Nebî Salla`llahu aleyhi ve sellem`in: "merhamet etmeyen kimseye merhamet olunmaz" buyurduğu rivâyet olunmuştur. HadisNo : 1978 Edited (6/15/2013) by gokuyum Alizeh and kashf-ul-eman liked this message

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1424.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jun 2013 Sat 01:32 pm   Quoting kashf-ul-eman     then you cant quote them without complete refrence. in islam this is strickly prohibbited.   Who says this? These hadiths are real. I read them in a very trusted book.

Thread: Some Verses and Hadits For Understanding People

1425.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jun 2013 Sat 01:25 pm You can find them if you want. I dont have the complete references for hadits.. Edited (6/15/2013) by gokuyum

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1426.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jun 2013 Sat 12:41 pm Her şeyde yavaş haraket etmek hayırlıdır, ahiret ameli müstesna.  Hadith/Ebu Davut Except the deeds done for afterlife, it is the best always to act slowly in whatever you do. Merhamet etmeyene merhamet olunmaz Hadith/Buhari Someone who doesnt show mercy will not be shown mercy   Allah´a ve son güne iman eden her kişi, hayır söylesin yahut sussun.  Hadith/Buhari Someone who believes in Allah and the judgement day should always say good things or be quiet. Münafığın alameti üçtür: Söz söylediği zaman yalan söyler, kendisine bir şey emniyet edildiği zaman hıyanet eder, vaat ettiği zaman sözünde durmaz. Hadith/Buhari There are three omens of a mischief-maker. When he says something, he lies; when someone trust him with something he betrays; when he promises something, he doesn´t keep his promise.   Ey inananlar, Allah´tan korkun ve doğru söyleyin.  Ahzab: 70 O believers, be afraid of God and always say the truth.   İnsanları küçümseyip yüz çevirme, yeryüzünde böbürlenerek yürüme, Allah, kendisini beğenip övünen hiç kimseyi şüphesiz ki sevmez. Lokman: 18 Don´t turn your face away from people underestimating them, don´t walk on earth bragging. Without doubt Allah love noone who loves and praise himself.   Her kim kibirlenirse, Allah onu alçaltır; alçak gönüllüyü ise yükseltir. Hadith Whoever is arragont, Allah lowers him, and whoever is modest Allah raises him.   Edited (6/15/2013) by gokuyum Edited (6/15/2013) by gokuyum Edited (6/15/2013) by gokuyum Edited (6/15/2013) by gokuyum Edited (6/15/2013) by gokuyum TheNemanja and Alizeh liked this message

Thread: Turkish flag

1427.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jun 2013 Sat 04:39 am Red symbolises blood. Because if you dont shed your blood as a nation fighting for a land you cant call it your country. Crescent and star symbolises İslam as Kelowna said. Edited (6/15/2013) by gokuyum Edited (6/15/2013) by gokuyum Edited (6/15/2013) by gokuyum kashf-ul-eman and elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: I am a walnut tree

1428.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jun 2013 Sat 04:27 am http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07v_jNr2OVY Cem Karaca - Ben Bir Ceviz Ağacıyım Gülhane Parkında   Ben Bir Ceviz Ağacıyım Gülhane Parkında I Am A Walnut Tree in Gülhane Park   Başım köpük köpük bulut İçim dışım deniz Ben bir ceviz ağacıyım gülhane parkı´nda Budak budak, serham serham İhtiyar bir ceviz Ne sen bunun farkındasın, ne polis farkında Ben bir ceviz ağacıyım gülhane parkında Ne sen bunun farkındasın ne de polis farkında  My head is a foamy cloud I am full of sea I am a walnut tree in Gülhane park Full of branches, full of splits An old walnut tree Neighter you nor police is aware of this I am a walnut tree in Gülhane park Neighter you nor police is aware of this Ben bir ceviz ağacıyım gülhane parkında Yapraklarım suda balık gibi kıvıl kıvıl Yapraklarım ipek mendil gibi tiril tiril Kopar ver, gözlerimin gülüm yaşını sil Ben bir ceviz ağacıyım gülhane parkında Ne sen bunun farkındasın ne de polis farkında I am a walnut tree in Gülhane park My leaves are constantly moving like a fish in the sea My leaves are spotlessly clean like a silk handkerchief Pick it and give, wipe the tears of my eyes my rose I am a walnut tree in Gülhane park Neighter you nor police is aware of this Yapraklarım ellerimdir tam yüzbin elim var Yüzbin elle sarılırım sana, istanbul´a Yapraklarım gözlerimdir şaşarak bakarım Yüzbin gözle seyrederim seni istanbul Yüzbin yürek gibi çarpar, çarpar yapraklarım Ben bir ceviz ağacıyım gülhane parkında Ne sen bunun farkındasın ne de polis farkında My leaves are my hands, I have exactly a hundred thousand hands I hug you İstanbul with a hundred thousand hands My leaves are my eyes, I look at suprised I watch you İstanbul with a hundred thousand eyes My leaves beat like a hundred thousand hearts I am a walnut tree in Gülhane park Neighter you nor police is aware of this                                                             Nazım Hikmet Edited (6/15/2013) by gokuyum Edited (6/15/2013) by gokuyum Edited (6/15/2013) by gokuyum Edited (6/15/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: e to t

1429.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Jun 2013 Fri 06:45 am   Quoting Inscrutable Bir butun tavuk yedin mi? You eat a whole chicken? Thank you   This question is also an expression of suprise. So you should emphasize tavuk with the question word:   Bir bütün tavuk mu yedin? Inscrutable liked this message

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1430.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Jun 2013 Fri 02:04 am http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYO3c6qv1M0 Quoting nessah Bir Mendil Aldım Dereden Yolum Geçmez Yar Buradan Bin Bir Derdim Var Yaradan I took a hankerchief from brook My way doesnt pass through here I have a thousand trouble my Lord. Güzel Seni Çok Özledim Üç Ay Oldu Yol Gözlerim Hakikattir Bu Sözlerim Beautiful I have missed you a lot For three months I have been waiting you These words of me are the truth   Bahar Çiçek Açar Dalda Ömür Geçer Hep Bu Yolda Benim Gönlüm Değil Malda In Spring flowers bloon on branches My life passes always like this My heart doesnt wish richness Güzel Seni Çok Özledim Üç Ay Oldu Yol Gözlerim Hakikattir Bu Sözlerim Beautiful I have missed you a lot For three months I have been waiting you These words of me are the truth Selam Gelir Mektub İle Mektup Değil Bu Bir Sille Sever İsen Beni Dinle Greeting comes by letter This is not a letter but a slap If you love me, listen to me. Güzel Seni Çok Özledim Üç Ay Oldu Yol Gözlerim Hakikattir Bu Sözlerim Beautiful I have missed you a lot For three months I have been waiting you These words of me are the truth       Edited (6/14/2013) by gokuyum Edited (6/14/2013) by gokuyum ikibir and nessah liked this message

Thread: 2 Canadian reporters arrested in Istanbul

1431.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Jun 2013 Thu 09:36 pm   Quoting stumpy     The only user here on TC who would think that remarks about Quebecs would get a rise out of me was acute, aka peramedic and I forget what other nicks she had. I´m too tired for these games, night folks!   Will you make peace with each other this time or keep fighting you weird Canadians?

Thread: A little query

1432.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Jun 2013 Thu 09:26 pm   Quoting TheNemanja     I haven´t learned that rule ever, it´s just very logical to me,when I see E it´s just logical that suffix must be with İ. Like it´s in my blood. I don´t know how,i´s just like it this.   You were a Turk in your previous life Nemanja that is why. And I was an alien, that is why I behave so weird. elenagabriela, Alizeh, TheNemanja and tunci liked this message

Thread: 2 Canadian reporters arrested in Istanbul

1433.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Jun 2013 Thu 09:04 pm Nightmare of administration, I salute you dear acute.

Thread: A little query

1434.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Jun 2013 Thu 08:44 pm Look kash-ul-eman. Dont try to learn every principle about Turkish grammar. Even I dont remember the minor vowel harmony principles now. But I still talk properly. Read a lot and you will learn to use which form of suffix without knowing the minor vowel harmony principles. Leylak111, Efi70, kashf-ul-eman and Alizeh liked this message

Thread: Kutadgu Bilig

1435.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Jun 2013 Wed 02:00 am Ey kutluluk bulan kişi! Kutluluğun devamlı olmasını dilersen, sürekli iyilik et! Sana, devlet yöneticiliği gibi ulu bir adam olmak nasip olduğunda , bu kutluluğun hayatın boyunca devamını dilersen büyüklenme, kendini küçük say, mütevazi ol." (3) (3) Yusuf Has Hacip, Kutadgu Bilig (Haz. Yaşar Çağbayır), Türkiye Diyanet Vakfı Yayınları, Ankara 2012, sy 19   O who found blessedness! If you want it to be continious, always do good deeds! When you are blessed with being a great man becoming a ruler, if you wish this blessedness continue during your life; never become arrogant, consider yourself small and be modest. Edited (6/12/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Kutadgu Bilig

1436.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Jun 2013 Wed 01:53 am "Beyler kızdıkları zaman ateş ve zehir gibidirler. Eğer bir bey öfkeli ve hiddetli ise ey ağırbaşlı, sakin kişi onlara yakın durma. Onlardan uzak dur. Yoksa zararı dokunur."(2) (2) Yusuf Has Hacip, Kutadgu Bilig (Haz. Yaşar Çağbayır), Türkiye Diyanet Vakfı Yayınları, Ankara 2012, sy 32   When rulers are angry, they are like fire and poison. If a ruler is angry and furious, o mild tempered and calm person, dont get close to them. Get away from them. Otherwise you will get hurt. Edited (6/12/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Kutadgu Bilig

1437.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Jun 2013 Wed 01:17 am Wisdom from 943 years ago.

Thread: translation - protest opinion - T--E

1438.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Jun 2013 Wed 01:13 am , Edited (6/12/2013) by gokuyum [anyways everybody has his own opinion.] elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: Kutadgu Bilig

1439.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Jun 2013 Wed 12:46 am Kutadgu Bilig is the first known written Turkish work after Turks accepted Islam. It was written by Yusuf Has Hacip in 1069. It was presented to Tabgaç Buğra Kara Khan. Kutadgu Bilig means "Knowledge of Being Blessed". The themes in the book are religion, philosophy, education, family, ethics, law, goverment, policy, army, sport, literature, mathematics, astronomy, health.... It is an allegorical work. There are four main characters. Küntogdı is ruler. He respresents true law. Aytoldı is visier. He represents happiness. Ögdülmiş is visier´s son. He represents reason. Ogdurmış is a religious man. He represents destiny. Kutdagu Bilig was written in mesnevi form. It is 6645 couplets. Now I read its translation in prose form prepared by Yaşar Çağbayır. It is published by Turkish Religious Affairs Foundation Publishing. I want to share some quotes from the book:   "Bilgili bey, öfkeyi kendinden uzak tut. Hiddetlenme de kendine iyi ad kazanmaya bak. Öfke ile yapılan işten her zaman pişmanlık doğar. Hiddetlenen insan işinde yanılır. Öfke ve gazap insana zarar verir, beden acı çeker. Öfke insanın aklını baştan alır. Hiddet bilgisini yitirir. Kişiye sükunet gerek, yumuşaklık gerek. Yöneticilere de parlak bir gelecek için sabır, yumuşak huy, nezaket, akıl ve bilgi gerekir."(1) (1) Yusuf Has Hacip, Kutadgu Bilig (Haz. Yaşar Çağbayır), Türkiye Diyanet Vakfı Yayınları, Ankara 2012, sy 9   O wise ruler, keep anger away from yourself. Don´t get angry and try to earn a good name. The result of a deed done with anger is always regret. An angry man fails in what he does. Anger and rage harm people, body suffers. Anger takes your reason away. Furry makes you lose your wisdom. A person needs serenity and gentleness. Rulers need patience, mild temper, politeness, reason and wisdom for a bright future.   Edited (6/12/2013) by gokuyum Edited (6/12/2013) by gokuyum lana- and alameda liked this message

Thread: Offensive Topics?

1440.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jun 2013 Mon 01:40 am   Quoting Efi70     I do   Then get ready to be bitten.

Thread: please translate to turkish

1441.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jun 2013 Sun 09:15 pm   Quoting Elisabeth Many of the posts in this forum topic have been deleted.  If you would like to personally insult one another, please do so through PMs or other internet means.  It´s fine to disagree and argue but please, lets not curse at eachother (name calling, ect...).   Thank you so much for your cooperation which you will all undoubtedly give! Elisabeth  Why did you delete my post too? It was about love

Thread: Help needed for Translation to Turkish

1442.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jun 2013 Sun 06:28 pm   Quoting denizli Thanks I was wonder about subjects. Is this OK: "I understand him" "Onu anlıyorum"   Yes. denizli liked this message

Thread: Dünyada en tatlı şey >> ENG

1443.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jun 2013 Sun 05:07 pm   Quoting nessah     i dont like water melon     But I do

Thread: Offensive Topics?

1444.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jun 2013 Sun 05:05 pm Nobody can question me. I will bite Alizeh liked this message

Thread: yeah!!!

1445.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jun 2013 Sun 05:04 pm I am going to Mars  to visit some of my relatives this weekend. insallah, elenagabriela, Efi70 and caliptrix liked this message

Thread: please translate to turkish

1446.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jun 2013 Sat 12:51 am   Quoting nessah     im naturally blonde but unfortunetly im not a police, hopefully in the next life, and i hope i will arrest u for something. it would be a big pleasure   You cant arrest me. You are too slow.

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1447.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jun 2013 Sat 12:49 am   Quoting nessah   but the policemen are soooooooooooooo handsome oohhoooo     Turkish men are best Everybody knows it   elenagabriela liked this message

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1448.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jun 2013 Sat 12:48 am   Quoting nessah   many! and im jealous of them     Yeah I know you are not a police and you are not naturally blonde. It sucks big time

Thread: please translate to turkish

1449.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jun 2013 Sat 12:41 am   Quoting nessah   Do you have beautiful blonde police women? Edited (6/8/2013) by gokuyum Edited (6/8/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: please translate to turkish

1450.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Jun 2013 Fri 09:45 pm You can beat me if you want

Thread: please translate to turkish

1451.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Jun 2013 Fri 09:34 pm Beating people is a way of showing affection here mdoni and Efi70 liked this message

Thread: E to T please my attempt

1452.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Jun 2013 Fri 01:27 am   Quoting Inscrutable Yatsı namazı saat on bire yirmi on kala var. Yatsı namaz is at 10.50.   Thank you     Edited (6/7/2013) by gokuyum Inscrutable liked this message

Thread: e2t

1453.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Jun 2013 Fri 12:25 am   Quoting Kelowna     http://youtu.be/3orT2B8uHQU I like that quote from  The Vow movie we should do a list of movie quotes and have them translated into turkish.   "Why are you trying so hard to fit in when you were born to stand out?" from movie < What a girl wants > Uyumsuz olmak için doğmuşken niçin uyum sağlamaya çalışıyorsun? These words were written for me " Oh yes, the past can hurt. But you can either run from it , or learn from it " from movie < The Lion King > Ah evet, geçmiş acıtabilir. Ya ondan kaçarsın ya da ders alırsın. " It takes a great deal of bravery to stand up to your enemies, but a great deal more to stand up to your friends. " Düşmanlarına karşı durmak büyük cesaret gerektirir ama arkadaşlarına karşı durmak daha fazlasını. from movie < Harry Potter>     Kelowna liked this message

Thread: Ablative and Dative Case

1454.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Jun 2013 Thu 11:23 pm ablative case always make me remember abla Efi70 and Faruk liked this message

Thread: New generation of Turks/ Taksim Park

1455.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Jun 2013 Thu 10:46 pm I would like to see Gezipark before they destroy it. Any lady to come with me for a romantic picnic?

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

1456.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Jun 2013 Thu 10:33 pm   Quoting TheNemanja   ~ Well I´m giving up. I can´t learn it,it´s so different than our languages.   There is a saying in Turkish "%90 of manhood is to run away". You are becoming a man. I am proud of you HaNNo, Abla and TheNemanja liked this message

Thread: E2T

1457.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Jun 2013 Thu 10:31 pm   Quoting nessah     no its good u need to practise ur english anyway   My english gets worse because of translating love letters.Also I feel like a love guru. That is not good for my mental health.   mdoni, elenagabriela, beautifullies28 and harp00n liked this message

Thread: E2T

1458.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Jun 2013 Thu 10:14 pm   Quoting nessah well i dont mean it to sound like he is lying, anyway maybe its better not to send it then     so you say I translated your stupid message in vain? Grrrr.

Thread: E2T

1459.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Jun 2013 Thu 09:50 pm   Quoting nessah I dont believe that ömer told u that he thinks that i dont love him anymore just becuz i dont send him anymore letters, i know that he would never say something like this. i think ömer has lost his hope on me completly, i also dont have any hope anymore. everything is destroyed please dont tell me things like that anymore just becuz u still think there is hope. it only makes me sad if u do that     Ömerin sana, ona mektup göndermediğim için benim onu artık sevmediğimi düşündüğünü söylediğine inanmıyorum. Onun öyle birşeyi asla söylemeyeceğini biliyorum. bence Ömer bana olan umudunu tamamen kaybetti. Benim de hiç umudum yok. Herşey mahvoldu. Lütfen bana artık öyle şeyler söyleme çünkü sen hala bir umut olduğunu düşünüyorsun. Öyle yapman beni sadece üzüyor.   Note: Why do you blame poor guy of saying a lie? Are you crazy?   Edited (6/6/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: e2t

1460.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Jun 2013 Thu 09:43 pm   Quoting nessah how do you look at someone you love and tell yourself it´s time to walk away?     Sevdiğin birine bakıp artık onu terketmen gerektiğni kendine nasıl dersin?

Thread: Gezi Parkı

1461.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Jun 2013 Wed 11:00 pm I dont fast but I love Ramadans a lot. elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: e2t plzzz

1462.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Jun 2013 Wed 09:42 pm   Quoting rumeysa yes i know, ömer, you, ahmet and gufran told me many times not to add his friends. =Evet biliyorum Ömer, sen, Ahmet ve Gufran bana çoğu kez onun arkadaşlarını eklemememi söylediniz   It is you(plural) because you wrote "sen" with other people.   rumeysa liked this message

Thread: T2E

1463.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Jun 2013 Wed 09:37 pm   Quoting nessah     AT me, not TO me     Turkish is more logical than English   elenagabriela and caliptrix liked this message

Thread: Gezi Parkı

1464.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Jun 2013 Wed 06:22 pm   Quoting Kelowna nothing like a reason for a barbecue I am hungry maybe I can protest and someone will cook for me   Protest yourself and I will cook for you

Thread: T2E

1465.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Jun 2013 Wed 06:21 pm   Quoting nessah dont make it sound like ur forced, u know that u love talking to me, its the reason u wake up every morning     Of course by the way please stop pointing that gun at me Edited (6/5/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: T2E

1466.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Jun 2013 Wed 05:23 pm   Quoting nessah you too but lets talk anywayyyyyyyyyyyyy lütfennnnnnnnnnnnnnnn     Okay

Thread: T2E

1467.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Jun 2013 Wed 05:20 pm   Quoting nessah its not love letter its to my friend. are u coming to skype tonight? im going to the gym soon     You are boring nessah liked this message

Thread: T2E

1468.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Jun 2013 Wed 05:17 pm I just came from university. Translating love letters help me to rest my mind elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: T2E

1469.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Jun 2013 Wed 05:12 pm   Quoting nessah sevgili kardeşim seni düşünmeyeni sen neden düşünüyorsun ki, ben sana bunu daha öncede söylemiştim, ömerin danıdığı insanları fazla ekleme, çünki hepsi iyi olmayabilir, seni üzecek sözler kullana bilirler, ama sen çok haklısın bu konuda sadece ömere güven, çünki ömer iyi biri olmasaydı mert olmasaydı, onu bende sevmezdim ,inan bana bu dünyada herkesin çok değer verdiği birileri vardır, benim için ömer onların başında yer alıyor, ve ömere mektup yolama çünki ömeri başka bir şehire göndediler,beni telefonla aradı seni sordu o iyi dedim, sanırım vanessa beni sevmiyor artık çünkü artık bana mektup yolamıyor dedi ^_^ ve çıkacağı zamanı sana söylemememi istedi   sana sürpriz olacakmış...sana bir şey sorabilirmiyim kardeş sofia nasıl iyimi   Dear sister. Why do you care someone who doesnt care you? I told you not to add every person who Ömer knows. Because they can´t be all good. They can say things which can upset you. But you are absolutely right on this matter. Just trust Ömer. If Ömer was not a good and trustworthy person, I wouldnt love him. Believe me in this world there are people who others esteem a lot. For me Ömer is in the front row of of them. And dont send letter to Ömer because they sent him to another city. He called me and asked you and I answered "she is okay" He said that "I guess Vanessa doesnt love me anymore, she doesnt send letters anymore" He didnt want me to say you when he will get out of prison. It will be a suprise for you. Can I ask you something sister* How is Sofia? Is she fine?   Edited (6/5/2013) by gokuyum nessah liked this message

Thread: Turkish Yes!

1470.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Jun 2013 Wed 04:14 am Why did Mikex close the site? I was just getting used to be a moderator emjay liked this message

Thread: Help needed for Translation to Turkish

1471.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Jun 2013 Wed 02:27 am   Quoting tomac As a learner...   Who is right? Kim doğru? <- looks fine to me Is Turkey safe now? Şimdi Türkiye güvenli? <- Do you mean "Is it safe now in Turkey?" ? In this case, I would try with something like: "Şimdi Türkiye´de güvenli mi", though not sure if "tehlikesiz" or some other work wouldn´t be better here...   Just my try, but I think it will be better to wait for Turkish native speaker or someone more advanced in Turkish.   We dont say "It is safe in Turkey" tomac. We say "Turkey is safe." So when it is a question, it is like this. "Türkiye güvenli mi?" caliptrix and tomac liked this message

Thread: yardım istiyorum

1472.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Jun 2013 Wed 01:39 am   Quoting tomac My try as learner. I´ve put "hiçbir şey" between "konusunda" and "yapmak" - not sure if this is correct here ("konusunda yapmak" is written together in the task):   İnsanlar, oluşan felaketleri bilmelerine rağmen, çevre sorunları konusunda hiçbir şey yapmıyorlar. People don´t do anything in regard to environmental problems, in spite of knowing about emerging catastrophes.     tomac liked this message

Thread: Kargalar Gülüyor

1473.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Jun 2013 Wed 01:17 am   Quoting aed ulan alpha denilen serefsiz soysuz provakator seni sen gotunu yırtsanda size basbakanı yedirmeyecegiz sizi o sandıga yine gomecez seni vatan haini seni   Lütfen üslubunu düzelt.

Thread: .

1474.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Jun 2013 Tue 12:07 am   Quoting TheNemanja İsterim yazayım Is this correct,and if it is,in which part of Turkey can we hear that.   You cant hear this anywhere except poems. caliptrix and Faruk liked this message

Thread: RESİMLERLE ÇAPULCULAR

1475.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Jun 2013 Tue 12:05 am Please moderators open a course for alpha and teach him how to use this forum

Thread: Pls help me translate this message

1476.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jun 2013 Mon 09:28 pm   Quoting bewrasit My friend has received a Turkish message from an unknown person. She needs the native speaker to translate it into English.  I am just a Turkish beginner, so I cannot help her with this. Here are the message.o seni kırabilir ama sen onu asla kırmayacaksın...o sana kızabilir ama sen ona asla kızmayacaksın...o sana kıyabilir ama sen ona asla kıymayacaksın...o sana hesap sorabilir ama sen ona asla sormayacaksın...onun müsait olduğu her zaman müsait olmak zorundasın...o ne diyorsa onu yapacak dediklerinin dışına asla çıkmayacaksın...o seni kıskanacak ve sen etrafındaki herkesten uzaklaşacaksın...ama sen onun çevresindeki insanları asla kıskanmayacaksın...onun sana ihtiyacı olduğu her an onun yanında olacaksın...o çok soru sorabilir hepsini tek tek cevaplayacaksın...ama sen ona soru sorupta saçmalamayacaksın...onun canını böyle saçmalıklarla sıkmayacaksın...yaşamaktan bıkacaksın ama onu yaşatacaksın...o üzülmesin diye her şeyi içine atacaksın...her şeyin farkında olmana rağmen salağı oynayacaksın...gitmeyeceksin o sana ne yaparsa yapsın...ne yaşatırsa yaşatsın üç maymunu oynayacaksın...diğer maymun gibi gözünü açmayacaksın...hala salakça oda beni seviyor diye kendini kandıraca   I think there is an irony in this text. Otherwise this is pure bullshit. nessah liked this message

Thread: New generation of Turks/ Taksim Park

1477.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jun 2013 Mon 08:36 pm I am so sad for him. Another citizen with his car killed him. That is the result of hatred some people feeds. We should stop blaming each other and stop this violence. Yunus Emre, Rumi, Hacı Bayram Veli and many great Muslims didn´t blame anyone and they loved everybody as a brother or sister. We should act like them. As Yunus Emre said, we should say " Yaratılanı severim yaratadan ötürü". We can translate it like this "I love all creatures because God created them" Edited (6/3/2013) by gokuyum Edited (6/3/2013) by gokuyum Edited (6/3/2013) by gokuyum mdoni, elenagabriela, alameda, foka and trip liked this message

Thread: Practice work of Possessive Pronoun by Kashf-ul-eman :)

1478.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jun 2013 Mon 12:19 am Nöbetçi çevirmen burada harp00n liked this message

Thread: Use of ler and lar

1479.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Jun 2013 Sun 10:13 pm Conditions? You put the suffix after a word to make it plural.That simple TheNemanja liked this message

Thread: New generation of Turks/ Taksim Park

1480.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Jun 2013 Sun 06:07 pm This is for you handsome. You are no different than Dr. Frankenstein in my eyes                 Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley A young Swiss student discovers the secret of animating lifeless matter and, by assembling body parts, creates a monster who vows revenge on his creator after being rejected from society. Edited (6/2/2013) by gokuyum Edited (6/2/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: New generation of Turks/ Taksim Park

1481.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Jun 2013 Sun 06:00 pm   Quoting thehandsom     I dont think you have an answer up there.. Not worth for answering I am afraid. As I said, this is not a popularity contest. You should not force yourself to say something when you dont have an opinion.  However, Burakk and Faruk deserve answers as they both elaborated clearly what they thought about these events. Infact, they both are representing the sides of Turkey´s ideological fault line. I will try to express my opinion about their posts when I have time.  It seems you want to personalise things with me. I guess it hurted you so much I criticised you liberals But I only told the truth and everybody knows it.    Edited (6/2/2013) by gokuyum harp00n liked this message

Thread: New generation of Turks/ Taksim Park

1482.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Jun 2013 Sun 01:37 pm   Quoting thehandsom     Instead of spending time with sharpening your teeth, I would recommend you to concantrate on improving your near zero sense of humor..   Lets not personalise this topic. What is your opinion about Faruk´s post and my answer? I would like to know. Edited (6/2/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: New generation of Turks/ Taksim Park

1483.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Jun 2013 Sun 01:29 pm   Quoting thehandsom     That is the reason I am "so" scared Amber!!! You should be. I have sharp teeth

Thread: Süper Lig: Choosing a team?

1484.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Jun 2013 Sun 01:26 pm   Quoting ahmet_a1b2 If so you have to be still child gokuyum, because Fenerbahçe is still more popular and successful than Galatasaray  Cups dont say so   TheNemanja liked this message

Thread: Just a quick one. my try: English to Turkish please

1485.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Jun 2013 Sun 01:23 pm   Quoting deli_degilim can I write, ´I´m sorry to bother you´ as    özür dilerim için sizi rahatsız?   and if I say, ´tamam özür dilerim için sizi rahatsız´ does that mean, ´Ok I´m sorry to bother you´   şimdiden teşekkürler   Sizi rahatsız ettiğim için özür dilerim. deli_degilim liked this message

Thread: New generation of Turks/ Taksim Park

1486.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Jun 2013 Sun 01:14 pm   Quoting Faruk   You see things from your side faruk. But there is always another side. I cant describe the stress and unhappiness I exprience for years. Goverment does really some good joobs. They direct economy good, they improve health system and they loan a good amount of money to students. I appreciate all of them. But they really lack emphaty. They should be more tolarable to people who have different ideas. They dont want any opposition. Their response to any kind of opposition (even so small) is really harsh. You can´t act this much harsh against opposition in our modern age. I hope you can understand my feelings and my concerns.   Edited (6/2/2013) by gokuyum Edited (6/2/2013) by gokuyum Edited (6/2/2013) by gokuyum Edited (6/2/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: New generation of Turks/ Taksim Park

1487.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Jun 2013 Sun 01:04 pm   Quoting LonsingerAmber    100 kitaplar per year, that´s twenty-five every three months, or 2/3 books a  week!  thehandsome is dancing with a kitap delisi .... Yeah and you see the proof in the link

Thread: Süper Lig: Choosing a team?

1488.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Jun 2013 Sun 01:02 pm   Quoting LonsingerAmber   You are a poet, no? The Quran always said that the poets and also Sufis  at that time would ´follow the bandwagon´.   http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bandwagon     Is this what you´re doing? You only like Galatasaray out of popularity? You gave me that impression when you mentioned ´no other team has this many cups´. Son, the number of cups mean nothing.       Dont worry I am suppoting Galatasaray since my childhood. When I was a child Fenerbahçe was a way more popular and succesful club than Galatasaray. Edited (6/2/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: T2E plz

1489.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Jun 2013 Sun 05:28 am   Quoting Alizeh Can someone please explain ´öyle, böyle and söyle´? I just cant get them them....   We dont get them too Alizeh liked this message

Thread: Süper Lig: Choosing a team?

1490.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Jun 2013 Sat 11:56 pm Of course Galatasaray.  1 UEFA CUP 1 SUPER CUP 14 TURKISH CUPS 19 LEAGUE CUPS   No other team has this many cups. Edited (6/2/2013) by gokuyum LonsingerAmber liked this message

Thread: New generation of Turks/ Taksim Park

1491.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Jun 2013 Sat 05:31 pm   Quoting thehandsom     OMG.. I am so scared now.. Shivering, trembling with fear..Brrrrr.. Look.. This is not a beauty or a popularity contest here. If you have nothing to say, just dont force yourself that you have to say something.. Simple as that.   Then don´t act so wise and don´t blame people of being ignorant. We don´t live in Europe like you. Thanks to you freedom of speech died here.

Thread: New generation of Turks/ Taksim Park

1492.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Jun 2013 Sat 05:11 pm Handsome you think you are so wise and you think we havent even opened a book in our lives. You think we are ignorant. But let me tell you this. I read more than one hundred books in a year. I just dont read them I also recommend the ones I like in twitter. Look at the link below. These are the books I finished and recommended. It is more then 400 in 2,5 years. There are also other books I read but didnt recommend. You dont know with who you are dancing:   https://twitter.com/kitaponerileri           Edited (6/1/2013) by gokuyum Edited (6/1/2013) by gokuyum LonsingerAmber and harp00n liked this message

Thread: New generation of Turks/ Taksim Park

1493.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Jun 2013 Sat 08:48 am Valla çok şey var. Açtırma kutuyu söyletme kötüyü. Özellikle de şu liberal kesime büyük tepkim var.  Edited (6/1/2013) by gokuyum Edited (6/1/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: New generation of Turks/ Taksim Park

1494.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Jun 2013 Sat 04:31 am   Quoting thehandsom     Look..  You still dont know what you are talking about.. This is not about you missing the calls and thinking that you had a democracy and AKP got the election and stole it from you!! What you had was a "faschism". what kinds it was? It was a patrisyen faschism in which thousand of people got killed on the side of the roads with bullets in their heads or died in tortures..(BUt people TOLD you that it was a democracy and you sheepishly believed it) Now we have pleb faschism.. OK? Do you know what it is? Do you know how the democracy comes into a country?  Have you ever thought of these things? have you ever read about these things? Do you know that those constitution you are trying to protect is a faschist constitution of all constitutions ?     I am against all kinds of fascism. I dont prefer one to other. Now look at my situation. I am even afraid to speak my mind openly. You had a role in this. I am angry at you.

Thread: New generation of Turks/ Taksim Park

1495.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Jun 2013 Sat 04:09 am   Quoting thehandsom     I told you you dont.. Look.. you never ever understood what the liberalizm is.. You never ever understood what the left is.. You never ever understood what the faschism and racism are.. And you still dont get it and you think those people who are protesting will ever sport your old racist, authoritarian, archaic fascist  regime? . You still dont understand!!! same as the folk song you never ever understood what they are all about!! You get soft where people sing those songs with thight fists!!      These are all empty words. I would like to talk more openly but I dont feel safe anymore in this country. All I will say is history will judge you Turkish liberals.

Thread: New generation of Turks/ Taksim Park

1496.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Jun 2013 Sat 03:56 am Yetmez ama evet

Thread: New generation of Turks/ Taksim Park

1497.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Jun 2013 Sat 03:54 am   Quoting thehandsom     I dont think you get it.. I have serious doubts that you will ever get it..     I understand it very good handsome. I hope you will understand one day too.  Edited (6/1/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: New generation of Turks/ Taksim Park

1498.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Jun 2013 Sat 03:06 am   Quoting thehandsom     Beg your pardon?   You know what I mean. You liberals have responsibiliy in this situation too.

Thread: New generation of Turks/ Taksim Park

1499.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Jun 2013 Sat 02:38 am   Quoting thehandsom     1-I think they are quite serious.. They are serious because they look like people who did not protest these things before. They are not political people..Seems like arab spring Turkey never had. 2-It is slightly different.. Turkey had a long history of authoritarian states and governments. This   government was elected with the promise of change and they did some change. But they have been in the power for so long and they started to use the same authoritarian behaviour towards people.. Taksim park is one of them. They wont consult people..They think they can do anything because they have 50% of the vote.  But people have changed.. They know that they have right to protest and they are protesting for a right cause.. They want something from the state and the state is much more concerned about the money they can get from a mall in the middle of Istanbul. The government is making a huge mistake.. Good morning handsome. It took some time you to open your eyes.   Edited (6/1/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Polite English For Turks

1500.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Jun 2013 Sat 02:25 am   Quoting stumpy hum! people seem to forget this is not Dear Abby nor a dating site also, first rule of the internet be carefull what you post.     You say this

Thread: New generation of Turks/ Taksim Park

1501.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Jun 2013 Sat 12:58 am   Quoting Faruk Because people are not democratic and do not respect other people.   I am democratic but I still dont respect others Edited (6/1/2013) by gokuyum survivor and harp00n liked this message

Thread: pls translate eng to turk

1502.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 May 2013 Fri 10:36 pm Yalan Rüzgarı britturk liked this message

Thread: Polite English For Turks

1503.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 May 2013 Fri 08:20 pm   Quoting elenagabriela     o bir kadının olduğunu kuşkum var..kusura bakmayın   Ahmet is not a woman name elena. He cant be a woman.

Thread: Polite English For Turks

1504.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 May 2013 Fri 02:45 pm   Quoting ahmet_a1b2 Bu kadınlardan gerçekten korkulur, ne yapacakları belli olmuyor. Asla bir kadını kızdırma ! Doom of men = women

Thread: Where are the seven hills of Istanbul?

1505.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 May 2013 Fri 02:29 pm Bu değirmenin suyu nereden geliyor harpoon açıkla caliptrix liked this message

Thread: Compound Game

1506.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 May 2013 Fri 02:24 pm edilgen fiil

Thread: Compound Game

1507.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 May 2013 Fri 02:23 pm   Quoting elenagabriela yemine ihanet etmesi yemine ihanet edilmesi

Thread: Where are the seven hills of Istanbul?

1508.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 May 2013 Fri 02:21 pm Plow ne yav? Sözlükte saban yazıyor

Thread: Short one

1509.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 May 2013 Fri 01:37 pm Unutmam.

Thread: E2T

1510.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 May 2013 Fri 01:36 pm   Quoting nessah thnx     You are always a part of violance dear

Thread: Polite English For Turks

1511.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 May 2013 Fri 01:35 pm Amber you shouldnt have posted pms sent to you here. A reliable person would never do such a thing.    If my pms were posted here, this thread would turn into playboy magazine

Thread: Polite English For Turks

1512.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 May 2013 Fri 01:52 am   Quoting caliptrix I thought this would be a forum for Turkish learners, not for English learner Turks   Why not? Also we learn how to be polite. We will serve you better harp00n liked this message

Thread: e2t pls

1513.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 May 2013 Fri 01:47 am Baklava was for me. I will eat all of it

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1514.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 May 2013 Fri 01:46 am Okay then. Dont get angry at me

Thread: e2t pls

1515.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 May 2013 Fri 01:43 am   Quoting nessah i think i speak sweet enough. gokuyum knows my way of speaking is not meant in a rude way,     It is a Turkish saying dear. Lets eat sweet and lets talk sweet.   You have a sweet tongue dear   Edited (5/31/2013) by gokuyum Edited (5/31/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: ????

1516.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2013 Thu 11:28 pm Durun siz kardeşsiniz. Stop you are syblings.   The very tragic moment of some old Turkish movies. Someone appears and shouts this at two lovers who are about to marry.   That is also the moment I shit myself laughing. Efi70 and caliptrix liked this message

Thread: Gokuyum´s Favorite Folk Songs ;)

1517.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2013 Thu 09:46 pm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtQNhVy1zEw Var Git Turnam - Sezen Aksu   Dağlar dağlar dumanlı dağlar Yücelerinde erimez karlar Evimden ocağımdan oldum aman Bana kurtlar kuşlar ağlar Yerimden yurdumdan oldum aman Bahtım kareler bağlar   Mountains, mountains, o foggy mountains.! On their tops snow don´t melt I lost my house, my family Even wolves and birds cry for me I lost my house, my family My fortune wears mourning   Gün geçmez yüzbin yıl olur Bu ayrılık kanun mudur Evimden ocağımdan oldum aman Kanlı göz yaşım çağlar Yerimden yurdumdan oldum aman Har ciğerimi dağlar   Days dont pass, it becomes  one thousand years Is this seperation a law? I lost my house, my family oof My bloody tears splash I lost my house, my family oof Fire burns my liver.   Var git turnam tez haberimi uçur Dedim dağ kavuşmaz insan kavuşur   Go quickly my crane, carry away my news I said even mountains reunite, but humans don´t.   Zemheriden ötesi bahar aylar Kuzu meler yoncalanır yaylalar Zemheriden ötesi bahar aylar Kuzu meler yoncalanır yaylalar   After winter, months of spring come Lambs bleat, pleteaus gets full with clovers After winter, months of spring come Lambs bleat, pleteaus gets full with clovers Benim derdimle yedi cihan dolar Dedim hakka ulaşır bütün yollar   Seven sides of world get full with my sorrow I said all roads go to God.   Zemheriden ötesi bahar aylar Kuzu meler yoncalanır yaylalar Zemheriden ötesi bahar aylar Kuzu meler yoncalanır yaylalar After winter, months of spring come Lambs bleat, pleteaus gets full with clovers After winter, months of spring come Lambs bleat, pleteaus gets full with clovers Edited (5/30/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: e2t pls

1518.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2013 Thu 09:21 pm   Quoting elenagabriela   Looks tasty. What else?

Thread: short sentence

1519.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2013 Thu 09:13 pm Best friend of human   Edited (5/30/2013) by gokuyum Edited (5/30/2013) by gokuyum Edited (5/30/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: e2t pls

1520.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2013 Thu 08:16 pm   Quoting nessah off. i was watching a music video. and the lyrics came on the screen of the video at the same time. so did u translated it right?     I did. I am waiting for my reward

Thread: e2t pls

1521.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2013 Thu 08:13 pm   Quoting nessah i love this song. i dont understand anything what he sings. but it doesnt matter. i watched the lyrics and tried to sing along       Bu şarkıyı seviyorum. Ne söylediğini anlamıyorum ama farketmez. Şarkının sözlerini izledim (?) ve söylemeye çalıştım.   Note: Why did you say that you watched the lyrics? You mean you read them?

Thread: e2t pls

1522.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2013 Thu 08:06 pm There is nothing dear.

Thread: e2t pls

1523.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2013 Thu 08:01 pm It is an empty song like your pms

Thread: short sentence

1524.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2013 Thu 07:36 pm   Quoting nessah   that proves how much u hate me       I dont.

Thread: short sentence

1525.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2013 Thu 07:28 pm   Quoting nessah     no im extremly happy     Why? I feel depressed when you are happy?

Thread: Polite English For Turks

1526.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2013 Thu 06:44 pm   Not polite. He should have written "I want you to go and make love with yourself mister." Edited (5/30/2013) by gokuyum ikicihan liked this message

Thread: short sentence

1527.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2013 Thu 06:37 pm   Quoting nessah i guess u were making fun of me     angry bird basima liked this message

Thread: Bulmaca :)

1528.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2013 Thu 03:51 pm   Quoting thehandsom My guess is : KARABURUN. But I will wait for the experts     Karaburun?  Edited (5/30/2013) by gokuyum Edited (5/30/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: I want to learn turkish peotry

1529.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2013 Thu 02:10 pm   Quoting nifrtity Merhaba, I want to learn the rules of turkish poetry can anyone recommend to me a site of this or books thanks in advance   http://jacketmagazine.com/34/eda-essays.shtml tunci and nifrtity liked this message

Thread: TurkishYes

1530.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2013 Thu 02:44 am They paid me a lot. Now I live in a very expensive villa near Bosphorus and I have a Ferrari in front of my door. They also pay me 10.000 Euro for  each post I posted. But you know I still dont think they appreciate me enough.Soon I will want a raise. Edited (5/30/2013) by gokuyum Edited (5/30/2013) by gokuyum Efi70, emjay, lana- and tunci liked this message

Thread: TurkishYes

1531.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2013 Thu 02:32 am   Quoting thehandsom     Typical!! Is it not? years ago a Turk opened a grocer round the corner. Has been a good business.. In a few years time, another very similar shop opened by another Turk. Now both of them are  out of business... That is a very Turkish way. Just typical : Dont force your imagination and "do exactly the same thing" !! Carbon copy! Sorry but no respect from me..   Yeah even me and tunci there are clones of us. They are really bad copies

Thread: TurkishYes

1532.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2013 Thu 02:26 am I guess this topic will go on forever.

Thread: TurkishYes

1533.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2013 Thu 02:24 am   Quoting thehandsom     Well.. You dont!!   Because I am not a symbol like you. Efi70 liked this message

Thread: TurkishYes

1534.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2013 Thu 02:21 am You talk like you are symbol of honesty Efi70 liked this message

Thread: Protest music after the Coup (12 September 1980) -I

1535.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2013 Thu 02:19 am   Quoting thehandsom     With the song otme bulbul? YES.    What is wrong with it? It is a very emotional song.

Thread: TurkishYes

1536.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2013 Thu 02:15 am Tunci´s existance makes that site very valuable for me. Who cares how the site is coded. I like this site a lot too. I wait for a moderation offer too Lol.

Thread: TurkishYes

1537.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2013 Thu 02:10 am   Quoting thehandsom     If you call this adverstisement, come any time   You call it that

Thread: TurkishYes

1538.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2013 Thu 02:07 am And thank you for your contribution to our advertisement

Thread: TurkishYes

1539.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2013 Thu 02:04 am   Quoting thehandsom That is a cheap  website..And the way the fishing is done, it is perfidious!!!   I dont know what is cheap about it. Tunci is very important for this site and he is there and building the site. I also consider myself important for this site (I am so modest). And I am there too. That should be enough What do you want more?  insallah liked this message

Thread: Protest music after the Coup (12 September 1980) -I

1540.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2013 Thu 01:55 am I hope I am the only one who gets soft easily

Thread: Please Can you help?

1541.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2013 Thu 01:54 am I carry my bad karma like a tattoo on me

Thread: Protest music after the Coup (12 September 1980) -I

1542.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2013 Thu 01:47 am   Quoting thehandsom     Song of "Ince giyerim ince pembe yakisir" insinuates that it protest the coup..   Lol. Is this it?

Thread: Compound Game

1543.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2013 Thu 01:41 am   Quoting thehandsom Klinik vaka   vaka-yı klinik

Thread: Dünyada en tatlı şey >> ENG

1544.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2013 Thu 01:40 am   Quoting nessah     haha why     Because you are a watermelon

Thread: Please Can you help?

1545.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2013 Thu 01:39 am   Quoting insallah It´s a good job Faruk can be trusted You could have ended up with anything written on you.    Like mine

Thread: TurkishYes

1546.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2013 Thu 12:06 am   Quoting tunci     What would they teach on that website Gok ? Since, that doesn´t sound a Turkish teaching website with its  "ohh yea.."  , it sounds rather Turkish forgetting and something else that i can´t pronounce here  No, it is only the more enthuistic form of yes. We are a very energic site   tunci liked this message

Thread: TurkishYes

1547.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2013 Thu 12:01 am   Quoting tunci     Hemide global moderatorsun !    Şöhret basamaklarını teker teker değil zıplayarak çıkmak denir buna.... !   Lool. I am getting really global like my belly   tunci liked this message

Thread: Dünyada en tatlı şey >> ENG

1548.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2013 Thu 12:00 am I dedicate this poem to nessah

Thread: Dünyada en tatlı şey >> ENG

1549.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 May 2013 Wed 11:59 pm   Quoting Poeta Dünyada en tatlı şey The sweetest thing in the world Kadın bir, meyva iki One is woman, other is fruit İkisi birbirine Öylesine benzer ki. . They are so similar. Kadın var, can eriği, There is woman like plum Kah tatlı, kah buruk. Sometimes sweet, sometimes sour Kadın var, üzüm gibi, There is woman like grape Yenir olsa da koruk! You eat it even if it is unripe Kadın var, vişne gibi, There is woman like cherry Reçel yap tabak tabak. Make many plates of mermelade Kadın var, karpuz gibi, There is woman like watermelon Yandın çıkarsa kabak You are in trouble if it is unripe Kadın var, kestanedir There is woman like chestnut Kış mevsimine sakla, Spare it for winter Kadın var, kavun gibi, There is woman like melon Aman alırken kokla! Smell before you buy it Kadın var, incir gibi, There is woman like fig Kuru yenir, yaş yenir. You can eat it dry or wet Kadın var, muz gibi, There is woman like banana Soya soya yenilir. Eat peeling it Kısaca her kadının Benzeri bir mevyadır. In short all women resemble a fruit. Ama nikah masasında But at the time of marriage Evet! diyen erkeğin Yediği hep ayvadır... It is the quince what man says yes eats.   Note: to eat quince means that you are in a big trouble     Edited (5/30/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: TurkishYes

1550.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 May 2013 Wed 11:47 pm By the way I am a moderator in Turkishyes site. I cant believe it too

Thread: TurkishYes

1551.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 May 2013 Wed 11:42 pm   Quoting mikex Our young site is more powerful now!.. Please visit us www.TurkishYes.com   What about  www. Turkishooyeaahh.com ? Nope, I think it is a little bit extreme. Edited (5/29/2013) by gokuyum Edited (5/30/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Protest music after the Coup (12 September 1980) -I

1552.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 May 2013 Wed 11:40 pm Is there any song says I protest the coup?

Thread: Chain Story

1553.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 May 2013 Wed 11:35 pm , Edited (5/29/2013) by gokuyum [My concious didnt let me to trollize this topic :)] lana- liked this message

Thread: turkish2e

1554.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 May 2013 Wed 11:33 pm Of course that is what dead people always say : Know the value of life

Thread: what does this means

1555.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 May 2013 Wed 11:30 pm Could you also ask someone what is the definetion of happiness? Edited (5/29/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: what does this means

1556.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 May 2013 Wed 11:28 pm Don´t write before thinking through Do what I say, don´t do what I do    Note:  Edited (5/29/2013) by gokuyum Faruk liked this message

Thread: working permit urgent pls

1557.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 May 2013 Wed 03:43 pm   Quoting lana-     this news almost killed me gok   I am so sorry for you dear lana- liked this message

Thread: working permit urgent pls

1558.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 May 2013 Wed 12:52 pm   Quoting gokuyum Get marry with a Turk. It is the easiest way   Bad news is I am not available

Thread: working permit urgent pls

1559.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 May 2013 Wed 12:47 pm Get marry with a Turk. It is the easiest way

Thread: 3000

1560.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 May 2013 Wed 12:40 pm   Quoting AlphaF     Arife, miskinlik yorgunluktan evladır.   Arife tarif gerekmez

Thread: small translation

1561.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 May 2013 Wed 02:04 am   Quoting Turkish2412 I see you became a father   Görüyorum ki baba olmuşsun. Turkish2412 liked this message

Thread: what does this means,,

1562.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 May 2013 Wed 01:58 am   Quoting nessah yes i know that very well ööö     You should try cam too

Thread: T2E

1563.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 May 2013 Wed 01:16 am   Quoting nessah no its not u little liar     yav doesnt really mean anything. We say it for the sake of saying

Thread: what does this means,,

1564.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 May 2013 Wed 01:12 am   Quoting nessah i like writing more     I like cam

Thread: T2E

1565.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 May 2013 Wed 01:10 am   Quoting nessah thanks lana and faruk can someone tell just how i say this in turkish: "im very sorry about your brother, i hope he is happy now and that u will see him someday again, do u speak with him on the phone sometimes or internet? life is very unfair. i understand u very well"   also i want to know what does "yaw" means and when to use it?       yaw is the short of miyaw

Thread: what does this means,,

1566.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 May 2013 Wed 01:05 am I dont block you. I am offline now. Wait a minute.

Thread: what does this means,,

1567.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 May 2013 Wed 01:04 am I dont want to live in a time where there is no internet. I am serious

Thread: what does this means,,

1568.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 May 2013 Wed 12:59 am Pollyanna syndrome Edited (5/29/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: what does this means,,

1569.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 May 2013 Wed 12:59 am   Quoting nessah çok eski zamanda yaşamak isterdim sevgiler dolu menfahat hiç yok nerde nerede öğle sevgiler     I would like to live in very old times. Times full of loves, no profits. Where are such loves?

Thread: My new favorite song

1570.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 May 2013 Wed 12:27 am We have very different music tastes harpoon. I could only listen to this song if I wanted to torture myself.

Thread: Please help me translate this elegantly :-P

1571.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 May 2013 Wed 12:23 am Where is my lightsaber? harp00n liked this message

Thread: TurkishYes

1572.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 May 2013 Wed 12:13 am   Quoting harp00n     Bir-iki gündür çalışmıyor.   Tamirci çağırdın mı?

Thread: difficult language

1573.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 May 2013 Wed 12:04 am   Quoting uzma 321 so muchf difficult turkish is need some help    Try chinese. It is way easier. elenagabriela and Efi70 liked this message

Thread: 3000

1574.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 May 2013 Tue 11:49 pm   Quoting harp00n     Nerdee ? Sana yetişmek mümkün mü hocam ? Teşekkür ederim.    Hocam yakında beni yakalarsın. Üzerimde acayip bir miskinlik var

Thread: MYTH BUSTER - Science Speaks

1575.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 May 2013 Mon 10:16 pm   Quoting ikicihan functionality is more important than the size.   There are many Chineses hidden among us

Thread: Can someone check my work, please?

1576.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 May 2013 Mon 10:15 pm   Quoting pwalton I have written a short piece about my favourite hobby. Could someone check it and tell me if I have made any mistakes etc:   Eskiden, gençken, Yeni Zelanda’da otururdum. Babam mühendisti ve şurada orada çalışıyordu. ülkeyi severdim. Bir çocuk olmak için harika bir yerdi oldu. Hava çok güzeldi, plajlar çok büyüktü, deniz masmaviydi. Bu nedenle üç yaşındayken, yüzmeyi için őgrendim. Balık gibiydim Bazen bir yüzme havuzunda, bazen denizde ama her gün, yüzmeye gittim. Çok iyi bir yüzücü olmak için, Gençler Olympiyat Yüzme Takımına seçildim. Bir altin medalya  sı kazanmak için istedim. Maalesef, uçüncü yil  i Yeni Zelanda’da yaşarken, babam işini kaybetti ve ailemle Ingiltere’ye dőndük. Ingiltere’de, her zaman yağmur yağiyordu, hava soğuktu, bu yüzden yüzmeye gitmek istemedim. Gidiş durdum.  Gitmeyi bıraktım.   Şimdi yillar sonra, bir olimpik yüzücü olmayı hayal etmiyorum. Ama her gün, yüzmeye gidiyorum. Kışın, bir yüzme havuzuna gidiyorum. Yazın, çok kalabalık değilse,   Hampstead havuzlarını ziyaret ediyorum.  Benim için sağlıklı olmak çok őnemli bu nedenle hala suyu seviyorum!   Thank you P

Thread: t2e

1577.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 May 2013 Mon 10:04 pm   Quoting Faruk     Neither I´d sell someone out for greed, nor I´d do flattery to anyone. Even if there´s a risk, I´d stand behind the truth, and stand against the wrong.   Robocop

Thread: how do i say this in turkish pls

1578.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 May 2013 Sun 09:03 pm   Quoting nessah kjfhgdauhgku       This is the Turkish translation:   vndujryfgrişgholhyyj nessah liked this message

Thread: Can someone tell me about some more awesome turkish music?

1579.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 May 2013 Sun 07:15 pm Atilla Taş - Yam Yam Style   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7lawy2nFik

Thread: T > E

1580.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 May 2013 Sun 07:08 pm   Quoting Faruk     "Hop de bakayım."     No, it doesn´t. It´s a slang way to say "stop right there!" or "hold it!"   "Say hop"

Thread: Compound Game

1581.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 May 2013 Sun 06:54 pm   Quoting thehandsom oyun havası   hava oyunu

Thread: Şam Tatlısı

1582.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 May 2013 Sat 11:27 pm   Quoting lana-     And yes I would like to know how Arabs call this     helvatu´ş-Sham? Edited (5/25/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: eng to turk ols

1583.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 May 2013 Sat 11:25 pm Harpoon sana ayın forum elemanı ödülü verilmesini teklif ediyorum.

Thread: Compound Game

1584.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 May 2013 Sat 11:23 pm   Quoting lana-     Yağ yakıcı   yakıcı bakış

Thread: Possessive suffix question

1585.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 May 2013 Sat 04:06 pm A short explanation: "şarkı sözü"   şarkı sözü : undefined noun phrase şarkının sözü: defined noun pharase onun şarkısının sözü: chained noun phrase senin şarkı sözün: chained noun phrase   blue: modifier red: modified   You don´t use two possesives because there is always one modifier and one modified.   Edited (5/25/2013) by gokuyum trip liked this message

Thread: Possessive suffix question

1586.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 May 2013 Fri 11:47 pm   Quoting trip I think I have found my explanation, in Lewis Thomas´s "Elementary Turkish": "In the case of a noun whose absolute form ends in a vowel, note the ´disappearance´ of the third person possessive suffix when its possessive form becomes a member of a possessive complex." "onun yatak odası"  --  "his bedroom" so onun beysbol sopası  --  his baseball bat   Is this what is happening?     There is no problem with onun. But what happens if you use senin?

Thread: trk to english pls

1587.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 May 2013 Fri 09:44 pm tuvalet var....

Thread: CANNONIZATION BY HUNDREDS

1588.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 May 2013 Fri 07:40 pm   Quoting AlphaF     Here is your medicine...   http://www.blackdoginstitute.org.au/docs/CBT_JillianBall.pdf Read it.....you will either heal yourself or fly totally off your rocker.....  Good luck !   Thank you alpha. You are so thoughtful

Thread: CANNONIZATION BY HUNDREDS

1589.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 May 2013 Fri 05:54 pm   Quoting Abla I don´t think discussing religion is stupid. I think everything is stupid. Oh my God I am in depression again.   tunci liked this message

Thread: CANNONIZATION BY HUNDREDS

1590.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 May 2013 Fri 09:58 am There must be a difference between a saint and a martyr. As far as I know a saint performs some kind of a miracle like stigmata. If you think it is a miracle standing against Ottomans, then I have no objection

Thread: CANNONIZATION BY HUNDREDS

1591.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 May 2013 Thu 10:33 pm You have too many saints. You declare everyone fought against Muslims and died saints. There is no end to it.

Thread: E 2 T

1592.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 May 2013 Thu 10:26 pm   Quoting harp00n     Why don´t they tell the truth instead of meaningless games ?    Because they are girls harp00n liked this message

Thread: turk to english will be a challange

1593.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 May 2013 Wed 01:08 pm   Quoting thehandsom     This is my bit:     bazen insanlar çok cabuk kiziyor ama 5 yillik iliskiler çok derindir bunu sende biliyorsun,bana kizdigin için 1 ayda internet ortaminda tanistigin 1 kisiyle iliski kurman çok kötü amanda ve bu kisiyi hiç tanimiyorsun.   Sometimes people get mad very quickly but relations that went on 5 years are very deep, you know this too. Getting into a relationship with a person you met on the net 1 month ago, because you were angry with me, is very bad and you dont know that person at all.   ilerde göreceksin hiç mutlu olmayacaksin bunu biliyorum amanda,bana kizdigin için kendine zarar veriyosun.   You will see in future, you won’t be happy at all, I know this Amanda. You are causing damage to yourself because you are angry with me.   bunu yapma insanlar her zaman hata yapar,hiç tanimadigin 1 insan ve istanbullu kendine çok dikkat et bir kadin pazarlamaci insanlarin kullandigi 1 cocuk olmasin sakin?    Don’t do this. People always make mistakes. He is a person you dont know and he is from Istanbul, be very careful. is he a person, women trafficing people use?   bunlari sen bilemezsin tabi benim yüzümden böyle bir sey olmasi beni çok rahatsiz ediyor.neyse kendine iyi bak. You would not know these of course. It is bothering me that all these happened because of me. Anyway, take care of yourself.   HERKESE GÜVENME ÖZELLIKLEDE INTERNET ORTAMINDA BUNU SEN BENDEN DAHA IYI BILDIGINI SANIYORUM. ILERIDE KENDINI GÜLÜNECEK DURUMLARA SOKMA .   Don’t trust everyone especially on the internet. I think you  you know this better than me. Dont be in a situation that you could be a laughing stock in the future.     ISTER BU SÖYLEDIKLERIMI DINLE ISTER DINLEME AMA 5 YIL BERABER OLDUK SENINLE SANA BIRSEY OLMASINI ISTEMEM. it does not matter if you listen to what I say but we were together for 5 years, I would not want anything happen to you.     SENINLE ILK BERABER OLDUGUMUZ GÜNÜ HATIRLIYORMUSUN? Do you remember first day we were together?  NASILDA HERSEY ÇOK GÜZELDI DEMI? How everything was very beautiful, wasn’t it? * Credit/and thanks, still goes to Lana           Wow handsome. This is the first time I see you translate something elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: could someone pls translate this pic to turkish :))

1594.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 May 2013 Tue 09:46 pm   Quoting nessah     Kızımla çıkmanın kuralları:   1. Çıkamazsınız. nessah and Turkish2412 liked this message

Thread: > T

1595.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 May 2013 Mon 08:05 pm   Quoting harp00n Thank you for your magic touch, buddy   Lol.

Thread: > T

1596.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 May 2013 Mon 07:38 pm   Quoting harp00n     Hoşgeldiniz ! Derneğimizin pikniği; 04 Haziran 2013  Salı günü  saat 17:00´da, Turku´nun "Sampplinna" Parkında yapılacaktır. Parka gitmek üzere "Luostarinvouri " Okulunun park yerinden  saat .... ´de hareket edilecektir. Piknik için getirilecek yiyecekler katılımcılar tarafından sağlanacaktır. Hava şartlarının uygun olmaması durumunda, yeni tarih derneğimizce duyurulacaktır.   A little salt for the meal

Thread: SECRETS OF A “CHRISTIAN” STATE

1597.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 May 2013 Mon 04:03 pm   Quoting AlphaF     "Yeşil Bektaşi Üzümü" dondurması bulabilirmisin ?   Olmaz mı? Ticaretini yapıyorum

Thread: O benim can dostum

1598.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 May 2013 Mon 04:02 pm   Quoting harp00n     According to "tureng" bosom friend. According to me "buddy" or "gokuyum"    Thank you harpooncan

Thread: Yaz dostum!

1599.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 May 2013 Mon 01:33 pm   Quoting trip Here is a question about this song: When I read the scene in "İnce Memed" where Abdi Ağa goes to the letter writer to send his complaints and warnings to the government, it made me think of this song. Is that what this song is about -- someone telling a scribe what to put down on paper for him?  Also, I like that Barış becomes a character in the song. The bard enters his own story and leaves his signature, yes? I´ve been told this also happens in Turkish poetry. And then Orhan Pamuk follows the pattern when he becomes a character at the end of "My Name Is Red" or "Snow" and tells how the story ends. I like these patterns. I dont know to whom Barış says "write, my friend" but  it is not Sarı Çizmeli Mehmet Ağa. Maybe he is writing to Sarı Çizmeli Mehmet Ağa. It makes sense because Sarı Çizmeli Mehmet Ağa is an expression you use when you talk about unnknown person maybe even someone who doesnt exist. There is a story of this expression I will give you the link but I dont have time to translate it: http://www.ozmena.net/genel-sohbet/sari-cizmeli-mehmet-aga-nin-hikayesi-39991.html Also it seems this Mehmed Ağa was a real person and Barış found his tomb and make it repaired . Here is the news: http://www.sabah.com.tr/kultur_sanat/muzik/2012/04/25/efsane-burada-yatiyor   Edited (5/20/2013) by gokuyum Edited (5/20/2013) by gokuyum trip liked this message

Thread: SECRETS OF A “CHRISTIAN” STATE

1600.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 May 2013 Mon 01:24 pm If you make peace one another, I will buy you icecream

Thread: SECRETS OF A “CHRISTIAN” STATE

1601.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 May 2013 Mon 11:02 am   Quoting thehandsom     Have you been living in a La La land for all those years, not in Turkey?        I want to live there.   * Lamda* liked this message

Thread: Yaz dostum!

1602.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 May 2013 Mon 07:42 am   Quoting trip Selam! I am being brave here and trying to translate another song. I know this is not perfect, because I am guessing sometimes along the way. Also, I do not recognize all the constructions, such as "görsen" or "koysan." And you can see I am completely lost in this line: "boşa koysan dolmaz dolusu alır mı." Still, it is one of my favorite songs. (There is a link at the bottom.) ... Teşekkürler! Yaz dostum güzel sevmeyene adam denir mi Write, my friend. Can someone be called a man if he has not loved a beauty.) Yaz dostum selam almayana yiğit denir mi Write, my friend. Can someone be called a young brave man who has not received a greeting? Yaz dostum altı üstü beş metrelik bez için Write, my friend. For merely five or six meters of linen. Yaz dostum boşa geçmiş ömre yaşam denir mi Write, my friend. Can it be called life, if it passed in vain? Yaz tahtaya bir daha tut defteri kitabı Write on the board again. Hold the notebook, the book.   Sarı çizmeli Mehmet ağa bir gün öder hesabı Lord Mehmet with the yellow high-topped boots someday will pay the account. Yaz dostum yoksul görsen besle kaymak bal ile Write, my friend. See that you nourish the poor with cream and honey. Yaz dostum garipleri giydir ipek şal ile Write, my friend. Clothe strangers with a silk shawl. Yaz dostum öksüz görsen sar kanadın kolunu Write, my friend. If you see an orphan, take him under your wing. Yaz dostum kimse göçmez bu dünyadan mal ile Write, my friend. One does not pass from this world with possessions. Yaz tahtaya bir daha tut defteri kitabı Write on the board again. Hold the notebook, the book. Sarı çizmeli Mehmet ağa bir gün öder hesabı Lord Mehmet with the yellow high-topped boots someday will pay the account. Yaz dostum Barış söyler kendi bir ders alır mı Write, my friend. Does Barış himself take the lesson he gives? Yaz dostum su üstüne yazı yazsan kalır mı Write, my friend. Does what is written stay on top of the water? Yaz dostum bir dünya ki haklı haksız karışmış Write, my friend. A world in which the just and unjust are mixed.  Yaz dostum boşa koysan dolmaz dolusu alır mı Write, my friend. If you pour it on the empty, it doesnt get filled. Can the fllled be poured on? Yaz tahtaya bir daha tut defteri kitabı Write on the board again. Hold the notebook, the book. Sarı çizmeli Mehmet ağa bir gün öder hesabı Lord Mehmet with the yellow high-topped boots someday will pay the account. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG7bM91Q7HE       Edited (5/20/2013) by gokuyum trip liked this message

Thread: One sentence for a special someone....

1603.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 May 2013 Mon 07:19 am   Quoting TimmyDX So there is this song i really like and there is one line which i particulary like, and i want to put it on a card for a person that means alot to me. But since i just started learning Turkish there is no way i can translate this yet. So i wanted to ask if one of you guys can do it for me. It would really mean alot to me. The line is:   Felt like a prisoner ´til I looked in your eyes, and saw a million wide open doors.   So if there is anyone that can help i would really appreciate it. And dont forget it has to be put on a card so it should really sound a bit elegant     Gözlrine bakana kadar bir mahum gibi hissettim. Onlarda milyon tane ardına kadar açık kapı gördüm. Edited (5/20/2013) by gokuyum Edited (5/20/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Mailing a letter!!! Help please!!

1604.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 May 2013 Sun 11:35 pm   Quoting Siennasmommy26 I´m about to mail my letter now, thank you again for all of your help!! If anyone knows ways to become fluent in the turkish language please let me know   If you live in Turkey ten years. I believe you will be fluent in Turkish language. Siennasmommy26 and Henry liked this message

Thread: The Translation Lounge

1605.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 May 2013 Sun 10:51 pm   Quoting tunci     If you ask Gokuyum I am sure he will do it  for  you.      Hehe. I dont respect privacy tunci

Thread: Mailing a letter!!! Help please!!

1606.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 May 2013 Sun 10:49 pm   Quoting harp00n     Badi, biraz tembellik mi başladı yoksa sende ? Sen varken bize gerek var mı ?     Sendeki azim kimsede yok dostum. Ben keyif ehli bir adamım

Thread: Mailing a letter!!! Help please!!

1607.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 May 2013 Sun 10:24 pm   Quoting harp00n You are welcome, i hurried up, i hope i had no mistake.   Helal olsun badim. Bir dahakine senin ismini vereceğim

Thread: Mailing a letter!!! Help please!!

1608.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 May 2013 Sun 08:34 pm   Quoting Siennasmommy26 Merhaba! I am sending my boyfriend a letter and he is turkish. I can speak most of the basic turkish language but I don´t understand everything. It would really mean a lot if I could write this letter in turkish. If I post if here could anyone help me translate it?! Please!!!! I´m new to this website as well it seems really fun 😁 responses?   Post the letter. I am sure someone(tunci) will help you Siennasmommy26 liked this message

Thread: Turkish level test

1609.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 May 2013 Sun 10:30 am It recommended me B1 too. I think it is the highest score. If you want to see my answers here they are:   1b 2e 3a 4a 5d 6b 7c 8a 9c 10c 11e 12a 13a 14d 15d 16a 17d 18a 19e 20d 21b 22a 23d 24d 25b 26a 27d 28b 29e 30c 31c 32e 33b 34b 35d 36a 37c 38b 39c 40d 41b 42d 43a 44a  45c 46c 47e 48a 49a 50a   Edited (5/19/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: şu Ahmet ne baba adam

1610.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 May 2013 Sun 10:09 am   Quoting favora şu ahmet ne baba adam   That Ahmet is such a fatherly man.

Thread: Erdoğan´s visit to U.S.

1611.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 May 2013 Sat 10:40 pm An umbrella shakes mighty USA. It is so funny. trip liked this message

Thread: Gokuyum´s Favorite Folk Songs ;)

1612.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 May 2013 Sat 09:17 pm Resimlerini profiline ne zaman ekledin. Ben şimdi gördüm valla. Hoş bir süpriz oldu

Thread: TurkishYes

1613.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 May 2013 Sat 09:16 pm   Quoting tunci     I don´t know about a troll but  he definetely needs you    Hocam why don´t you join the website , he needs supports of  people like you..       I am so lazy tunci and I am really busy. I will look at the site in summer holiday. Edited (5/18/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: TurkishYes

1614.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 May 2013 Sat 08:57 pm Do you need a troll? mikex and tunci liked this message

Thread: çıtır kızlar

1615.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 May 2013 Sat 05:10 pm   Quoting harp00n Ben "chicks" derdim.   You are a womanizer harpoon ikicihan liked this message

Thread: T2E PLZ

1616.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 May 2013 Sat 05:06 pm Nessah these are deep issues. Are you getting old?

Thread: Gokuyum´s Favorite Folk Songs ;)

1617.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 May 2013 Sat 05:04 pm   Quoting harp00n Badi, 2 gündür PM yolluyorum ama bir sorun var sanırım, gelmediler.   Evet pm gelmedi. Ama pozitif enerjini hissettim

Thread: T2E PLZ

1618.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 May 2013 Sat 04:58 pm   Quoting lana-       It is not up to us to choose where we will born or to choose the identity we will born in but to be “Human” is up to us   What if we chose it and now we dont remember? I hope I didnt make a big mistake

Thread: Gokuyum´s Favorite Folk Songs ;)

1619.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 May 2013 Sat 09:47 am   Quoting trip Çok güzel, gokuyum. Another song to add to my list of favorites. Some questions: 1) Gel barisalim baban kiysin nikahi Of course, I don´t really know what I am looking at, but in the above line, why do you not translate the "gel"? Would it not be "Come, let us reconcile." That is such a nice line. 2) Kerpic kerpic ustune kurdum binayi When I try to translate Turkish lyrics, it often seems to me that the usual word order shifts. Isn´t that true in the above line?: The verb comes before the object here -- kurdum binayı. Is this happening simply for poetic effect? Or do these lyrics come from a time when the word order might have been different? For instance, Shakespeare might not say things in the same order we do today in English. (I hope my questions aren´t stupid.) Tekrar teşekkür ederim. 1. Yeah I guess I forgot to translate it 2. Word order is not strict in Turkish. But most of the time we put verb at the end. I think as you say for poetic effect poet put it before object.   trip liked this message

Thread: e2t

1620.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 May 2013 Fri 08:58 pm Is he Superman?

Thread: Gokuyum´s Favorite Folk Songs ;)

1621.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 May 2013 Fri 08:16 pm Gökhan Kırdar - Kerpiç Kerpiç Üstüne Kurdum Binayı http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDW9vGRCXn8   Kerpic kerpic ustune kurdum binayi I built the buildung brick on brick Binayi kurar iken gordum leylayi When I was building it, I saw Leila Leyla basima acti turlu belayi Leyla caused many troubles to me. Ah leyla leyla leyla etme bu nazi Ah Leila Liela dont act coy to me. Gel barisalim baban kiysin nikahi Lets reconcile, let your father marry us Kerpic kerpic ustune duzdum bir sira I aligned a row brick on brick Leyladan haber aldim gitmis misir´a I heard that Leila had gone to Egypt. Kuzu olup melesem arkasi sira May I become a sheep and bleat after her Ah leyla leyla leyla etme bu nazi Ah Leila Liela dont act coy to me. Gel barisalim baban kiysin nikahi Lets reconcile, let your father marry us Edited (5/17/2013) by gokuyum Edited (5/17/2013) by gokuyum Edited (5/17/2013) by gokuyum Edited (5/17/2013) by gokuyum trip liked this message

Thread: Same- sex -marriages

1622.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 May 2013 Thu 06:56 pm Şimdi sevgili alpha resmin linkini girdiğin ekranda görüntü oranını ayarlaman için iki kutucuk var. şöyle bir 500 e 500 yaparsan kutucukları o görüntü de ekrana sığar.

Thread: E2T

1623.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 May 2013 Thu 01:33 pm   Quoting nessah   THANKS SWETY       You are welcome dear.

Thread: E2T

1624.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 May 2013 Thu 01:29 pm   Quoting nessah "If someone waits for you, It doesn´t mean that they have nothing else to do. It just mean that nothing else is more important than you"     Eğer birisi seni bekliyorsa, bu başka yapacak işi olmadığı anlamına gelmez. Bu sadece senden daha önemli hiçbir şey olmadığı anlamına gelir.

Thread: şart kipi

1625.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 May 2013 Thu 04:56 am   Quoting lana-   like in this sentence  2 Yarın işten sonra yorgun olmazsam sinemaya gidelim   ty very much ^_^ I really had difficulties with this  Yes lana. This is another example. Tenses are a little bit tricky in Turkish

Thread: Sen bir tanesin

1626.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 May 2013 Thu 04:45 am   Quoting favora "Sen bir tanesin" İngilizce nasıl derim   You are the only example of your species

Thread: iş konuşmaya gelince tık yok

1627.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 May 2013 Thu 04:39 am Dünya klasiği olmasa bile çok klasik bir eylemle ilgili cümleler ihtiva ediyor harp00n and tunci liked this message

Thread: t2e pls :))))9

1628.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 May 2013 Wed 02:35 pm   Quoting AlphaF     Bu şiiirin Türkesinde kullanılan "kavuşma" kelimesi, insanın Haydarpaşa garında karşıladığı askerlik arkadaşına kavuşması anlamında değil. Sevgili ile tensel bir birleşmeden bahsediyor şair. "Tercümede "rejoin" bu anlama karşılık olmamış. Belki bir daha denemek istersin...   Hocam sen niye denemiyorsun?

Thread: t2e pls :))))9

1629.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 May 2013 Wed 07:08 am   Quoting nessah Seni özlemenin Ne demek olduğunu sor bana, Yetmiş iki dilde anlatabilirim Kitabını yazabilirim sayfalarca. Yalnızlığın rezilliğini Kokuşmuşluğunu Ve çıplaklığını da. Ama hiç kimse Kavuşmanın güzelliğini Sormasın bana / anlatamam. Ben sana hiç kavuşmadım ki! Ask me what it is to miss you I can tell it in 72 languages. I can write its book consisting of many pages And also disgrace, rotenness and nakedness of loneliness But let nobody ask me about the beauty of rejoining I cant tell. Because I have never rejoined you     Edited (5/15/2013) by gokuyum Edited (5/15/2013) by gokuyum Edited (5/15/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: t2e

1630.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 May 2013 Tue 01:12 pm   Quoting nessah Bilirsin gönül derin,küser yarasına yara açana kadar... Seni içimde yaşatmak için neleri,öldürdüm bir bilsen... There are some word plays. "yara" means "wound" . But if you think like this: yar-a (dative) then it means "to the beloved"   You know heart is deep. It is offended by its wound until it shows(or mention) the wound to the beloved. If only you would know what I had killed in order to make you live inside me.

Thread: Yalnızlık -- Gülben Ergen

1631.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 May 2013 Tue 01:02 pm   Quoting trip Merhaba! I usually don´t do very well with song lyrics, but have I come close here? ... This is such a lovely song.     If you want to hear, I have put a link at the end. Yalnızlık -- Loneliness Çok kırgınım bütün dostlarıma I am very upset with all my friends Sevgilim seni düşman ettiler bana My darling, they made you an enemy to me Bir hataydı beni seçmedin inandın onlara It was a mistake. You didn´t choose me. You believed them.  Sihirli sözlere aldandın büyü yaptılar sana You were taken in by magical words. They cast a spell on you. Yalnızlık alır götürür vay beni yazık bana Loneliness takes, takes away. Woe is me. Pity me. Eller böyledir hep ayırır karışıp sevdalara Others always interfere and separate passionate loves this way. Others are like this. They always separate (people) interfering loves. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9I1rsNLq7vc     Well done trip nifrtity liked this message

Thread: T to E

1632.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 May 2013 Mon 04:08 pm I am a romantic man I guess. Better than a robot

Thread: T to E

1633.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 May 2013 Mon 06:03 am   Quoting Njordin Hello, could anyone translate the following for me ?   "Romantik erkek mi? Aman kalsin! Hic cekilmiyolar gercekten!"   Thanks !   Romantic man? I dont want. They are really not bearable.

Thread: english buddy to learn turkish??

1634.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 May 2013 Sun 12:51 pm   Quoting Laura20 Hi, I´m new to this site and really want to learn turkish but finding it difficult. If anyone english and a beginner at turkish would like to be some kind of ´buddy´ to help eachother learn turkish, please message me!x   I wonder how two Englishmen who dont know Turkish will help eachother? Edited (5/12/2013) by gokuyum Edited (5/12/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Happy Mother´s day !

1635.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 May 2013 Sun 11:42 am Happy mother´s day tunci ahmet_a1b2 and elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: A “proto-Eurasiatic” language?

1636.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 May 2013 Sun 11:41 am I am Mexican

Thread: şart kipi

1637.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 May 2013 Sat 02:47 am   Quoting lana-   would you give an example gokuyum?      Okula gitmezsem, babam kızar. If I dont go to school, my father will get angry.   There is sometimes a really thin line between tenses. Present tense can express a future event. "Okula gitmezsem(if I dont go to school)" maybe he is talking about tomorrow. He can still use present tense even if he is talking about it. Edited (5/16/2013) by gokuyum lana- liked this message

Thread: şart kipi

1638.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 May 2013 Sat 02:15 am   Quoting juji Teşekkür ederim Faruk. Açıkçası ben de böyle düşünüyordum ama üniversitede hoca bize doğru olan ´ Hava bu kadar soğuk olmazsa bu kadar öksürmezdim´ diye söyledi, ben de tam olarak anlamadım neden. Ben Macaristanda türkoloji okuyorum bu arada ve bu cümleyi macarcadan türkçeye cevirmem lazımdı ama macarca cümlede şimdiki yada geniş zaman olarak yazıyordu. Bu yüzden kafam karıştı  Olmazsa gives sentence a future tense meaning. So your teacher is completely wrong. But dont say this to him if he is a prick   Edited (5/11/2013) by gokuyum Edited (5/11/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Ruslar birinciliği kaptırmadı! Antalya´ya 4 bin 576 yabancı gelin

1639.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 May 2013 Sat 02:09 am   Quoting ikicihan Ruslar birinciliği kaptırmadı! Antalya´ya 4 bin 576 yabancı gelin     It is normal. Slav girls are really beautiful.

Thread: E 2 T

1640.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 May 2013 Sat 02:06 am There is always a reason. Maybe you cant confess it to yourself, nessah Edited (5/11/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: A “proto-Eurasiatic” language?

1641.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 May 2013 Sat 01:51 am   Quoting trip If the Turks are the source of civilization, that would be all right with me.   Welcome to our family, trip Edited (5/11/2013) by gokuyum trip liked this message

Thread: English-Turkish

1642.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 May 2013 Sat 01:50 am   Quoting ikibir Gokuyum are u sure u live like a monk???   I didnt count internet  Surely I am more than a monk on internet. ikibir liked this message

Thread: Group demands ´male brothel´ in Turkey

1643.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 May 2013 Fri 05:05 am   Quoting Kelowna     I would not consider this a profession but more of a necessitiy for some woman to survive and feed themselves. Old rivals met again. I am neutral this time   Edited (5/10/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: English-Turkish

1644.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 May 2013 Fri 05:00 am   Quoting Kelowna Errr don´t mean to be rude but he is a waiter most likely with the lowest level of education possible he is probaly  busy with a new adventure - just trying to gain what he can - language / gifts/visa call it a holiday fling - smile - and get on with life What is the use of high education if you live like a monk like me?   Edited (5/10/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: A “proto-Eurasiatic” language?

1645.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 May 2013 Fri 04:57 am   Quoting Kelowna I always thought Turkey was  Europe´s " Mexico " Mexico resorts have waiters who act the same   We are proud Mexicans

Thread: CHAMPION GALATASARAY !!!

1646.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 May 2013 Tue 07:31 pm   Quoting harp00n     Haklısın badi, yine de şampiyon olmak güzel.      Valla bıktım artık

Thread: yardim eder misiniz lutfen?

1647.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 May 2013 Tue 07:26 pm   Quoting Johnk thanks for your reply. I am a little confused about "donmeyi" as opposed to the verb donmek. Can you please explain how donmeyi is made up? if you say i want to return then it would be ben donmek istiyorum...or would it be donmeyi?   dön-me-y-i   dön(mek) : root of the verb (to turn, to come back) dönme: name of the action (noun) (turning, coming back) dönme-y-i : y is buffer letter. Two vowels(e-y-i) cant come together in Turkish. We put a buffer letter(y) between them dönmeyi: accusative form of the noun. Edited (5/7/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: CHAMPION GALATASARAY !!!

1648.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 May 2013 Tue 02:52 am Şampiyon olmaktan gına geldi yav

Thread: Gokuyum´s Favorite Folk Songs ;)

1649.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 May 2013 Sun 07:52 pm Acem Kızı http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D92ZknbCUwc       Çırpınıp da Şanova´ya çıkınca  Eğlen şanova´da kal acem kızı Uğrun uğrun kaş altından bakınca  Can telef ediyor gül acem kızı    When you get to the Şanova after struggling Rest on Şanova stay there Persian girl When she secretly looks at under her eyebrows Rose-like Persian girl wastes lives    Seni seven oğlan neylesin malı  Yumdukça gözünden döker mercanı  Burnu fındık ağzı kahve fincanı  Şeker mi şerbet mi bal acem kızı   What is the use of possession for the boy who loves you? He cries corals when he shuts his eyes Her nose is a hazelnut, her mouth is a coffee cup Is honey-like Persian girl a sweet or sherbet?   This is a song of a love strory. (Of course it ended badly)    Edited (5/5/2013) by gokuyum Edited (5/5/2013) by gokuyum Edited (5/17/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: T2E

1650.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 May 2013 Fri 11:14 pm   Quoting nessah Thanks     Always dear nessah liked this message

Thread: E2T

1651.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 May 2013 Fri 11:13 pm   Quoting nessah is baacak right=?     Nope. You caught me again. "bakacak" is correct nessah liked this message

Thread: T2E

1652.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 May 2013 Fri 11:10 pm   Quoting nessah     insanlar degisir, anilar asla   People change but memories never (change)   basima and nessah liked this message

Thread: E2T

1653.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 May 2013 Fri 11:09 pm   Quoting nessah "Enjoy the little things in life, for one day you will look back and realize they were big things"     Hayattaki küçük şeylerden zevk almasını bil. Çünkü bir gün geriye bakacak ve onların büyük şeyler olduğunu anlayacaksın.   Edited (5/3/2013) by gokuyum basima liked this message

Thread: Three Steps, All Typical to Turkish

1654.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 May 2013 Fri 10:20 pm   Quoting tunci   I think the way this thread heading  is something like  ;   Çıkmaz sokağın  çıkmaz  apartmanından  çıkagelen  çocuk  çantasından çakmağını çıkarmaya çalışırken  çıldırdı.    who will translate this ?    Not me

Thread: Three Steps, All Typical to Turkish

1655.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 May 2013 Fri 09:52 pm   Quoting tunci     You  can  not   teach  an old dog  a new trick.   Yes but how would you translate it literally?

Thread: Haydi Fenerbahce !!!

1656.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 May 2013 Fri 09:36 pm I hope you didnt lose a lot of money

Thread: Three Steps, All Typical to Turkish

1657.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 May 2013 Fri 09:34 pm Can çıkar huy çıkmaz. How can we translate this?

Thread: DİLAN ALP

1658.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 May 2013 Fri 09:31 pm Life is sacred. But you know alpha some in this forum believes translation is sacred too Edited (5/3/2013) by gokuyum Edited (5/3/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: THE VERSACE HAREM

1659.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 May 2013 Fri 09:28 pm Alpha needs more space. Add an alpha button to the forum so when alpha clicks it, he can have it. Edited (5/4/2013) by gokuyum basima liked this message

Thread: Mr OBAMA.....Beware of RTE

1660.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 May 2013 Fri 09:20 pm   Quoting AlphaF OBAMA WARNED BY HUFFINGTON POST   http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stanley-weiss/mr-president-please-dont_b_3202062.html   I read this article and it is not objective. The purpose of his Turkey criticism is to support Israel policy. I dont say all his opinions are wrong about Turkey but still he uses them for a wrong purpose.   Edited (5/3/2013) by gokuyum alameda liked this message

Thread: Gokuyum´s Favorite Folk Songs ;)

1661.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 May 2013 Fri 09:15 pm I think an endless discussion is about to begin. I hope I am wrong. But if someone wants to discuss this issue please let him do it in another topic. Because I want this topic to be about only folk music. Edited (5/3/2013) by gokuyum Edited (5/3/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Gokuyum´s Favorite Folk Songs ;)

1662.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 May 2013 Thu 08:40 pm   Quoting trip Another interesting thing about this song: Harput is today´s Elazığ, if I am understanding what I read on the Internet. So, some men came from relatively nearby. And then there is Yemen, meaning others came from across the empire to fight. It is a reminder of just how far the Ottoman Empire stretched, even in its final days. Amazing. I dont really know if anyone came from Yemen. But you know when a Muslim country fights against an enemy from another religion, it is a jihad. And always some muslims from other countries  wants to join that war. They think it is a sacred war. You know many muslim people from other countries fought against Serbia with Bosnia because of that. So it is possible maybe some volunteers came from Yemen.   Edited (5/2/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Gokuyum´s Favorite Folk Songs ;)

1663.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 May 2013 Thu 11:46 am   Quoting trip Another very sad song, gokuyum. You have sent me to Wikipedia again, this time to learn about Sarıkamış. This is the battle in 1914-15 between the Ottomans and the Russians, yes? I see Turkish losses of 60,000 to 80,000 men out of a force of 90,000. These numbers are unbelievable but I´m afraid very real. And many of these deaths are thought to have been caused by the freezing conditions, yes? Thus, this song. ... Thank you for another lesson in Turkish music and Turkish history. ... Teşekkür ederim. P.S. -- Please explain "yar." What does it mean here? I see it means "precipice" or "cliff," but I have a feeling it also means "love" (this feeling comes from the translation of a Barış Manço song, I think).  Most of them froze to death even without shooting a single bullet. Enver Pasha´s wrong war strategy caused this.

Thread: Ever heard of Mübariz İbrahimov Azerbaijan national hero?

1664.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 May 2013 Wed 11:03 pm I read the story of him in an Azerbaijan site this week. It was the first time I have heard his name. The news was about his story being told in a Turkish Tv series. He was a really brave young man. Some says he is modern day´s Kürşat. http://www.1news.com.tr/azerbaycan/kulturyasham/20130328113355121.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mubariz_Ibrahimov   Note. If you want to know who Kürşat(chinese called him Ashina Jiesheshuai) is, here is a link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashina_Jiesheshuai Edited (5/1/2013) by gokuyum Edited (5/1/2013) by gokuyum Edited (5/1/2013) by gokuyum Edited (5/1/2013) by gokuyum Edited (5/2/2013) by gokuyum ahmet_a1b2 liked this message

Thread: HAPPY MAY DAY !

1665.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 May 2013 Wed 10:09 pm What is this 1 May ?   Edited (5/1/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Gokuyum´s Favorite Folk Songs ;)

1666.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 May 2013 Wed 07:09 pm Sarıkamış Türküsü (Özhan Eren) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WOBR_o1jCs   Sarıkamış üstünde kar  Kar altında Mehmedim yatar  Gülüm donmuş kara dönmüş  Gören sanmış yarini sarar  There is snow on Sarıkamış My Mehmed lies under snow. My rose has frozen, turned into snow Like he has hugged his beloved Oy gülüm yar vay canım yar  Kar altında Mehmedim yatar  O my rose, o my soul Under snow my Mehmed lies Kimi Yemen kimi Harput  Üzerinde ince bir çaput  Avut yiğit gönlünü avut  Yar sarmazsa Mevla´m sarar  Some from Harput, some from Yemen Only thin rags on them  Console your brave heart, console If beloved cant hug you, God will. Oy gülüm yar vay canım yar  Kar altında Mehmedim yatar    O my rose, o my soul Under snow my Mehmed lies     Note: Sarıkamış disaster is one of the biggest disasters in the Turkish history.   Edited (5/1/2013) by gokuyum Edited (5/1/2013) by gokuyum Edited (5/1/2013) by gokuyum Edited (5/2/2013) by gokuyum trip liked this message

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1667.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 May 2013 Wed 05:49 pm If a woman farts, only nearest person hears, if a man farts whole street hears. Edited (5/1/2013) by gokuyum Edited (5/1/2013) by gokuyum Edited (5/1/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: T - E

1668.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Apr 2013 Sun 01:38 am Turkish2412 liked this message

Thread: tr to en - A Turkish Chain Letter

1669.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Apr 2013 Sun 01:21 am Patricia teyze?

Thread: Correct it

1670.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Apr 2013 Sun 01:18 am   Quoting Turkish2412 Senin hiçbirşeyine   Anyone can explain those 2 changes? senin hiçbirşeyine to nothing of you     Turkish2412 liked this message

Thread: Why do Turks Like Pakistan

1671.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Apr 2013 Sun 01:13 am They still teach us how Pakistan helped us during Independance war. I guess this kind of things are never forgetten easily. kashf-ul-eman and Alizeh liked this message

Thread: what does this means

1672.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Apr 2013 Sat 01:06 am yasak meyve - forbidden fruit

Thread: İSTANBULUN RUMLARI

1673.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Apr 2013 Thu 02:15 pm   Quoting Efi70 LOOOL    Women always win at the end ahmet_a1b2 liked this message

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1674.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Apr 2013 Thu 02:10 pm   Quoting Efi70 Αt that era the great majority of Asia Minor was a greek providence...you can check it too  don´t get mixed up with nowdays borders. Ι have nothing else to add to this issue I agree with everything efi says even I dont have any idea about the issue

Thread: İSTANBULUN RUMLARI

1675.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Apr 2013 Thu 02:07 pm Alpha I always thought you as a young man. It seems you are way older than me

Thread: Ettirgen Eylem ?

1676.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Apr 2013 Wed 08:50 pm   Quoting Abla The headline is ettirgen, gokuyum.   Sorry, Wilou, I cannot remember this rule.   Yeah I saw it and sent a message with a link which can be useful.

Thread: Ettirgen Eylem ?

1677.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Apr 2013 Wed 08:48 pm You want to learn causative voice I guess. Look at the examples in the link http://www.turkishlanguage.co.uk/causative.htm   Edited (4/24/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Is there a logical explanation?

1678.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Apr 2013 Wed 08:43 pm   Quoting sakine Seni bilirim = I know you Seni biliyorum = I am knowing you   What is the difference? I know the last one means that I am currently knowing, but what is the semantic difference? There is none. We prefer using present continous tense most of the time.

Thread: Ettirgen Eylem ?

1679.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Apr 2013 Wed 08:41 pm ,   Edited (4/24/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: T2E

1680.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Apr 2013 Wed 08:39 pm   Quoting nessah Bir kız için ilk olmanın kıymetini bilmemek, geri dönüşü olmayan, en büyük aptallıktır.   Pure wisdom

Thread: My try - English to Turkish

1681.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Apr 2013 Wed 08:37 pm Tarkan has a song about it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IAD38nuxP0

Thread: E to T please my attempt

1682.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Apr 2013 Sun 05:56 pm   Quoting tunci     Bal  alabilir  misin ?   "balı" is also possible if it is definite   tunci liked this message

Thread: A poem for Ataturk written by Asik Veysel

1683.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Apr 2013 Wed 10:34 pm Provide us a translation tunci. How do you expect foreigners to understand this beatiful poem?

Thread: need fast turkish to english!!

1684.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Apr 2013 Wed 10:31 pm   Quoting harp00n     Al benden de o kadar....   Tercümanı eve de alsınlar bari. Daha fazlasını söylemeyeyim şimdi

Thread: Kuru fasulye

1685.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Apr 2013 Wed 10:30 pm   Quoting catwoman   Quoting thehandsom Strese karşı kuru fasulye! Bacaklarınıza, ayağınıza, ellerinize sık sık kramp mı giriyor ya da sürekli gerginlik mi hissediyorsunuz? Stres seviyeniz yüksek mi? Kendinizi hep yorgun mu hissediyorsunuz? Tüm bu şikâyetlerinizin sebebi magnezyum eksikliği olabilir.     Please provide translation/explanation what this is about. Thanks.   He says dried beans make gas. ahmet_a1b2 and elenagabriela liked this message

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1686.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Apr 2013 Wed 10:19 pm   Quoting Abla   Yes it is the apodosis of an unreal condition. This makes sense now. I saw it translated wrong at another website but I was not sure until now. Sağ ol.   I hope my translation is correct. Lets ask authorities Edited (4/17/2013) by gokuyum harp00n liked this message

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1687.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Apr 2013 Wed 10:13 pm   Quoting harp00n     Easy wish, come to Istanbul   Çörek de isterim ama

Thread: need fast turkish to english!!

1688.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Apr 2013 Wed 10:12 pm Tercümanın dahil olduğu aşk mı olur Allah aşkına? Ben de buna bir türlü akıl erdiremedim. impulse liked this message

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1689.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Apr 2013 Wed 10:08 pm   Quoting harp00n Badim, söyle ne yapayım ?   Orta şekerli kahve

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1690.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Apr 2013 Wed 10:06 pm   Quoting Abla Thanks, gokuyum. Isn´t it tricky?   The direct speech question should be something like                                Onu benim için yapacak mıydı?   But I couldn´t go any further. I changed my translation abla. I think "would have" expresses a past unreal condition. So I corrected it as "yapar mıydı"

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1691.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Apr 2013 Wed 10:02 pm Benim için yapar mıydı bilmiyorum.

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1692.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Apr 2013 Wed 09:55 pm   Quoting Abla   Edited (4/17/2013) by gokuyum Edited (4/17/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: E 2 T plz....

1693.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Apr 2013 Wed 02:23 pm   Quoting nessah haha thanks. 3 translations to choose from, which one is best ?     Mine but it is not written etena and harp00n liked this message

Thread: People of Turkish descent integrated in Europe

1694.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Apr 2013 Mon 08:42 am   Quoting AlphaF     You probably prefer dog fights ! Naturally !   I prefer love fights

Thread: Gokuyum´s Favorite Folk Songs ;)

1695.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Apr 2013 Sun 09:05 am   Quoting trip   I am sort of ashamed to say I learned about Hekimoğlu from Wikipedia. Your translation of the lyrics made me curious, so I went searching. I have read "İnce Memed" and liked it very much. In English criticisms, Memed is compared to Robin Hood. So, I was interested to find a real person, Hekimoğlu, who sounded like he could be a model for Memed. Is the story of Hekimoğlu an isolated one? Or were there other brigands like him in real life? Is he considered a Turkish hero? I saw a mention of the Laz people. And he was fighting Georgian lords, yes? This history is all new to me. The photo below is on the Wikipedia page for the Laz people. These men certainly look like they could be fighting alongside İnce Memed!       There are many laz people live in Black Sea region of Turkey. They speak Turkish. They are considered Turkish. There are also Georgions in the region. So Hekimoğlu is also a Turkish hero.   Edited (4/14/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: how do i say this in turkish

1696.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Apr 2013 Sun 08:27 am   Quoting nessah "i just want to say to u that even though im very far away from u, in another country, life feels very empty and boring without u. i just want u to come home!! and to see you free and happy forever. its all that i wish. i think about this every day. im sorry about everything. i feel like i have a big rock (stone) in my heart."   Senden çok uzakta ve başka bir ülkede olsam dahi hayatın sensiz çok boş ve sıkıcı olduğunu söylemek istiyorum. Evine dönemeni, seni sonsuza kadar özgür ve mutlu görmeyi istiyorum. Tüm dileğim bu. Bunu hergün düşünüyorum. Herşey için çok üzgünüm. Sanki kalbimde büyük bir taş varmış gibi hissediyorum.   ahmet_a1b2 liked this message

Thread: Gokuyum´s Favorite Folk Songs ;)

1697.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Apr 2013 Sun 08:08 am   Quoting trip Hekimoğlu Türküsü I like this one very much, too, gokuyum. And I always learn something from your posts.  Baş edemedim: I couldn´t handle. Baş edememek: Not to be able to cope. In reading a little about Hekimoğlu, I am struck at how much he sounds like Memed in "İnce Memed." Hekimoğlu was on the Black Sea, yes? And Memed´s story takes place in Çukurova. But the story sounds very similar. Do you think Yaşar Kemal was thinking of Hekimoğlu when he created Memed? Or maybe there were many such brigands who fought for the people and not just themselves. ... As Kemal says: Turkey´s brigands and bards -- a ripe combination for storytelling! Yine şarkılar için teşekkürler! It seems you know the story of Hekimoğlu. How did you learn it? There are many similarities between the stories of Hekimoğlu and İnce Memed. It is possible that Hekimoğlu´s story influenced Yaşar Kemal. You know Yaşar Kemal was really interested in folklore. And he has even a book where he collected some folk tales that he listened from villagers of his homeland.    trip liked this message

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1698.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Apr 2013 Sat 10:33 pm   Quoting Faruk     The one who waits, "One day, he gives up on everything as much as the one who leaves doesn´t" Ah this is a better translation.

Thread: t2e

1699.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Apr 2013 Sat 10:25 pm I didnt notice bekleyen. So I will change my translation now. Lets see if it makes sense now Edited (4/13/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: t2e

1700.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Apr 2013 Sat 10:16 pm   Quoting nessah well i found it on facebook and i saw over thousand people liked it, so i got curious. i guess they understood what it meant     Then they are smarter than me nessah liked this message

Thread: Love Vs Dignity

1701.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Apr 2013 Sat 10:15 pm   Quoting Tiara Will you give in your dignity over the love that you ever want in you life ?   I dont even have enough dignity to give emjay and insallah liked this message

Thread: t2e

1702.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Apr 2013 Sat 10:10 pm   Quoting nessah i dont understand it but forget it, doesnt matter. thnx for trying anyway.     Dont be upset dear. It is not understandable in Turkish too nessah liked this message

Thread: \"FOR\"

1703.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Apr 2013 Sat 10:09 pm   Quoting primaryovertone Thanks this helped a lot.   Yarasın

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1704.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Apr 2013 Sat 10:07 pm   Quoting gokuyum   He says one day  he is going to give up everything as much as a leaving person dont give up. I dont know if my translation makes sense     Another pearl elenagabriela liked this message

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1705.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Apr 2013 Sat 10:06 pm   Quoting nessah Bekleyen, "Gidenin vazgecmedigi kadar vazgecermis, bir gün herseyden"     A person who waits is going to give up everything one day as much as a leaving person doesnt give up. I dont know if my translation makes sense   Edited (4/13/2013) by gokuyum [It still doesnt make sense.after correction :)] Edited (4/13/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Gokuyum´s Favorite Folk Songs ;)

1706.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Apr 2013 Sat 09:05 pm Hekimoğlu Türküsü http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg-noinflrQ     Hekimoğlu derler benim aslıma Aynalı martin yaptırdım da narinim kendi nefsime   My origin is known as Hekimoğlu I had a martin rifle with a mirror made for myself my delicate.   Konaklar yaptırdım mermer direkli Hekimoğlu dediğinde narinim aslan yürekli   I had residences with marble pillars built Hekimoğlu is lion-hearted my delicate.   Konaklar yaptırdım döşetemedim Ünye Fatsa bir oldu da narinim baş edemedim   I had residences built but couldnt decorate them Fatsa and Ünye came together I couldnt handle them my delicate.   Ünye Fatsa arası ordu da kuruldu Hekimoğlu dediğin de narinim o da vuruldu.   Army took position between Ünye and Fatsa Hekimoğlu was shot my delicate.   Edited (4/13/2013) by gokuyum Edited (4/13/2013) by gokuyum Edited (4/13/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: english to turkish.

1707.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Apr 2013 Fri 04:52 pm   Quoting beautifullies28 ah, "delete!"   teşekkür ederim We use wipe for another action

Thread: english to turkish.

1708.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Apr 2013 Fri 04:36 pm   Quoting beautifullies28 nefret mi ? sana .. SEN NEDEN BENİ SİLİYORSUN !!! hatred? towards you... Why do you delete me?    MADEM SİLDİN NEDEN HALA KONUŞMAK İSTİYORSUN ! Since you deleted me why do you still want to talk?    BEN NEFRET ETSEYDİM BEN SİLERDİM YADA SENİNLE ŞUAN KONUŞMAZDIM..! If I hated you, I would delete you or I wouldnt talk to you.     um.......?? i get what they say but specifically i am not. i am getting wiped? is that was that says?

Thread: english to turkish.

1709.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Apr 2013 Fri 04:12 pm   Quoting beautifullies28 i need help with two words BİLMİYOSUN You dont know SİNİRLENDİRİYOSUN BENİ You make me angry   i can not figure those words out. help!

Thread: football:)

1710.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Apr 2013 Fri 04:10 pm   Quoting Maya84     Your team will gonna play with Benefica, i think you are very happy I hope they will be the champions. Good luck. Takımın Benfica´yla oynayacak. Sanırım çok mutlusundur. Umarım şampiyon olurlar. Bol şans.   How to wirte: your favorite team in turkish? senin favori takım or senin favori takimın? correct  or.....?    thanks         Maya84 liked this message

Thread: T.C before your name on the network: why?

1711.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Apr 2013 Fri 03:49 pm   Quoting catwoman     What kind of complaints/problems would you like to report? Nobody follows all the forum posts so that everyone´s questions can be answered. If you have a problem, you must email all the administrators. In regards to moderation, if you know a little bit about the history of this site and the issues we had in the past with forum moderation, you would know that it´s not easy to "moderate the right amount" and it´s always better to delete less then more.  What is wrong with being modereted? Please someone moderate me. I am an incorrigable masochist   Edited (4/12/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Fenerbahce in Semi Final !

1712.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Apr 2013 Fri 03:35 pm I have complicated emotions. As a Turk I am proud of Fenerbahçe but I still want Galatasaray to be the only Uefa cup winner. I am ashamed of myself. I am too egoist Edited (4/12/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: People of Turkish descent integrated in Europe

1713.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Apr 2013 Fri 03:30 pm Instead of dog fight now thanks to you we do mouth fight Efi70 liked this message

Thread: Gokuyum´s Favorite Folk Songs ;)

1714.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Apr 2013 Fri 03:11 pm   Quoting trip Çanakkale Türküsü. So sad. So moving. ... Thank you, gokuyum.   I am pleased that you like it trip. You have a good music taste. trip liked this message

Thread: Gokuyum´s Favorite Folk Songs ;)

1715.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Apr 2013 Thu 11:52 pm Çanakkale Türküsü http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOZK0cgit8c   Çanakkale içinde vurdular beni Ölmeden mezara koydular beni Of gençliğim eyvah  They shot me in Dardanelles They put me into grave before dying. Pity my youth pity. Çanakkale köprüsü dardır geçilmez Al kan olmuş suları bir tas içilmez Of gençliğim eyvah Dardanelles bridge is narrow, it can´t be passed Its water has turned to blood, even a bowl of it cant be drunk. Pity my youth pity. Çanakkale içinde aynalı çarşı Anne ben gidiyorum düşmana karşı Of gençliğim eyvah There is a mirrored bazar in Dardanelles Mother I go against enemy. Pity my youth pity. Çanakkale içinde bir dolu testi Anneler babalar ümidi kesti Of gençliğim eyvah There are lots of jugs in Dardanelles Parents gave up hope. Pity my youth pity. Çanakkale´den çıktım yan basa basa Ciğerlerim çürüdü kan kusa kusa Of gençliğim eyvah I got out of Dardanelles walking sideways My lungs have rotted throwing up blood. Pity my youth pity. Çanakkale içinde sıra söğütler Altında yatıyor aslan yiğitler Of gençliğim eyvah There are row upon row of willows in Dardanelles Many brave young men lie under them. Pity my youth pity. Çanakkale´den çıktım başım selamet Anafarta´ya varmadan koptu kıyamet Of gençliğim eyvah I got out of Dardanelles safely But without reaching Anafarta, hell broke loose Pity my youth pity. Edited (4/12/2013) by gokuyum Edited (5/17/2013) by gokuyum rumeysa liked this message

Thread: Is it right please - my own ´tried´ translation

1716.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Apr 2013 Thu 04:24 pm   Quoting xxsexy_smithyxx (-ın suffix may change to in, -un, -ün, -nın, -nin, -nun, -nün depending on *****)     Why is it sometimes you put the ´n´ before the rest of the suffix? It functions as a buffer letter. Two vowels cant come together in Turkish. You cant say "arabaın" you must put n between vowels: arabanın     Edited (4/11/2013) by gokuyum elenagabriela and tunci liked this message

Thread: Is it right please - my own ´tried´ translation

1717.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Apr 2013 Thu 05:38 am   Quoting Faruk     I thought when you poked me a few times you knew who I was? Beni birkaç kez dürttüğünde benim kim olduğumu bildiğini zannettim.   You keep coming into my friends recommendations everytime I look for new friends so       I figured facebook was trying to tell me something Arkadaş önerileri arasında sürekli çıkıyordun. Ben yeni arkadaşlar ararım. Bu yüzden Facebook´un bana bir şey söylemek istediğini düşündüm.   Where in ***** are you from? From what district? *****´ın neresindensin? Hangi ilçesinden? (-ın suffix may change to in, -un, -ün, -nın, -nin, -nun, -nün depending on *****) Actually facebook was trying to say please leave me alone.   Edited (4/11/2013) by gokuyum sanja87 and elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: T.C before your name on the network: why?

1718.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Apr 2013 Thu 05:36 am   Quoting nessah   elizabeth can i ask u why does alpha get so many chances in this website when he insults so many people all the time? i dont know how many times ive seen it.     Because alpha is elisabeth´s cousin   Edited (4/11/2013) by gokuyum vona liked this message

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1719.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Apr 2013 Thu 05:34 am   Quoting beautifullies28 Need to say this to someone. Pretty much going to be the last thing ever said so want to get it right. A tad personal.   If you wish to not speak to me anymore, then say so. I am not a child, i am a human and i have feelings. These mind games are rediculous and the words you said to me were lies. You asked me to trust you and i did, just to be fooled. Be an adult and be honest. Eğer benimle artık konuşmak istemiyorsan lütfen söyle. Ben çocuk değilim. Bir insanım ve duygularım var. Bu akıl oyunları akılalmaz ve bana söylediğin sözler hep yalan. Bana sana güvenmemi söyledin ve ben de güvendim.Ama aptal yerine kondum. Bir yetişkin gibi davran ve dürüst ol.

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1720.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Apr 2013 Thu 05:26 am   Quoting Abla   How can you get this meaning from these words, gokuyum? Could it be bugünkü aklım?   Why not? İkicihan´s translation is more literal. I dont think there is a big difference in meaning.

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1721.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Apr 2013 Wed 06:34 pm   Quoting elenagabriela sen kız değilsin...anlayamazsın    Empati kurabilirim elenagabriela liked this message

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1722.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Apr 2013 Wed 06:29 pm   Quoting xxsexy_smithyxx I trust that god will show me the way   ben güven Allah bana yol göstereceğim   thanks   Allah´ın bana doğru yolu göstereceğine inanıyorum. xxsexy_smithyxx liked this message

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1723.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Apr 2013 Wed 06:27 pm   Quoting nessah bana dün lazimdi, bugün ki aklim       I wish I had been wiser yesterday as much as today. nessah liked this message

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1724.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Apr 2013 Wed 05:40 pm   Quoting vona Papatya falı: verecek vermeyecek, verecek vermeyecek... And so on... Hocam burada vermekle ne kastediyorsun? Açıklayabilir misin?   vona liked this message

Thread: Just some simple sentences if someone could help me and then I can learn them, thanks

1725.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Apr 2013 Wed 05:27 pm Smithy you say you live in İstanbul but you still dont know how to ask a person his age in Turkish? This is so disappointing Edited (4/10/2013) by gokuyum

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1726.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Apr 2013 Wed 01:29 am   Quoting nessah Sakın unutma sevgili; harcanmış bir yürekle hala kovulduğun kapının önünde bekliyorsan gerçekten sevmişsindir. Meh.

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1727.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Apr 2013 Wed 01:28 am   Quoting nessah     thanks tunci i was hoping that u would help me with this cuz i like your explanations   Don´t you like mines too?   nessah liked this message

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1728.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Apr 2013 Wed 01:26 am "Adam saçlı değil" sounds really weird. I havent heard this in my life. We say "Adamın saçı yok" And there is a diference in Turkish between hair (on head) and hair (on body). First one is saç and second one is kıl.   Adam kıllı değil. The man is not hairy. This makes sense.  elenagabriela and nessah liked this message

Thread: Ottoman Compounds

1729.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2013 Mon 05:46 am By the way u and ü means "ve(and)" in Ottoman Turkish.    Examples:   say u gayret şan u şöhret ilm ü marifet Edited (4/8/2013) by gokuyum

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1730.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2013 Mon 05:36 am   Quoting vona     No example with yi but still okay As I said earlier, I am not an expert on such stuff but it so seems to me that it either should be i with hypen or yi without hypen. For example: ulemâ-i islamiye or ulemâyi islamiye I think y in the middle is this buffer letter and should be used after removing the hypen. And I think ı and yı forms of the affix are from the vowel harmony.   In my book (Hayati Develioğlu - Osmanlı Türkçesi Kılavuzu 1) it says if a word ends with â or û you put -yı,-yi. And there is still a hypen. And about -yi there is no example in the book. So I think maybe sometimes it can be used instead of -yı.

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1731.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 08:38 pm   Quoting vona     Probably.. but -i followed vowel harmony later.. did not it? Huh..?  The forum´s official expert on the Ottoman Turkish is gokuyum and we have to wait him come and help us zülf-ü yar => zülfüyar  seyr-ü sefer => seyrüsefer (traffic) hasb-ı hâl => hasbıhal (private and friendly chat)  farz-ı muhal => farzımuhal ( supposing the impossible)   Actually using "u,ü,yu,yü" instead of "ı,i,yı,yi" is not a correct grammatical usage.   By the way let me give you a few example with "yı,yi":   ulemâ-yı İslamiye:  şuarâ-yı Osmaniyye ma´na-yı şiir asâ-yı Musa terazû-yı adelet

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1732.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 02:18 am   Quoting nemanjasrb     Sagol,that´s only gives me some mood to start learning... Only a woman can really motivate a man to learn a new language I guess   nemanjasrb liked this message

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1733.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 02:11 am   Quoting nemanjasrb Spanish(I´m going to Spain this year in summer)..   I hope you can find a nice girl there nemanja nemanjasrb liked this message

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1734.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 02:08 am   Quoting Abla Would someone bother to explain how the Ottoman type compounds like divan-ı hümayun are built. They are often used for historical and stylistic reasons and it would be useful to know how to open this structure. There are three types of compunds in Ottoman language: Turkish, Arabic, Farsi. "divan-ı hümayun" is a farsi compound. Here is a link: http://www.webcanavari.net/diger-diller/farsca-tamlamalar-t192338.0.html

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1735.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 02:01 am   Quoting nessah     Yes I think I know what we would be seeing then..............................................................................................       You have to pay for it

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1736.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 02:00 am Greek (private reasons)

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1737.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 01:56 am   Quoting nessah     if u learn swedish i will give u a big kiss,,,,,,,on the cheek   This is a great motivation. But only for the beginning level

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1738.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 01:52 am   Quoting Efi70     Hmmm where is the Greek hocam?      Greek is in our hearts Efi70 and tunci liked this message

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1739.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 01:48 am   Quoting tunci   If I was a non-Turk, and want to learn a language . My list would be as follows ;   1. Chinese  2. Turkish  3. Arabic     I study Arabic ten minutes a month. I hope to learn it in 50 years time. Maybe I am too optimist Edited (4/7/2013) by gokuyum

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1740.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 01:46 am   Quoting vona     Please, keep trying it. We are here for learners. Well, I promised myself not to write about grammar anymore, but maybe someone can make me change my mind!   Aha you have a crush I guess

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1741.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 01:41 am   Quoting nessah   I meant that english is of course easier to learn if u hear and see it everywhere. If Turkish movies,series,news were shown on my TV every day all of my life and turkish music playing on the radio then of course it would be 100 times easier to learn it. I was understanding and talking very good english before I even started learning it in school because I watched a lot of american programs on tv and the music and so on...     I will start to broadcast a Turkish show on internet. Its name will be "Gokuyum´s world" and I will use my room as a studio and my world   Edited (4/7/2013) by gokuyum

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1742.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 01:38 am   Quoting tunci     Insallah one day many parts of the world will know Turkish.  Turkish a language of future , friends. I always say this and we will all see this happening .  So, you are not wasting time here, in fact you are investing something useful for your future. Knowing Turkish is a privilage.    Future is ours

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1743.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 01:36 am   Quoting Efi70 It is true that turkish language - at least for those who comes from my country- it is difficult to be taught. Especially the syntax and the grammary rules are completely different. But i find turkish language interesting and worths the try.   Yeah you should try it

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1744.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 01:34 am   Quoting nessah   ur joking right? english is everywhere, u learn it in school, english is all over internet, in music, movies, its the world language. turkish? we dont have turkish anywhere here.       Go to Turkish restaurants or Turkish fast food shops. You can find plenty of Turkish It doesnt mean because English is everywhere, every Turk speaks it. Actually only a little minority speaks it properly.

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1745.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 01:30 am Sashk is a great student. I dont want her to give up. I wish I could help you sahk. nemanjasrb liked this message

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1746.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 01:29 am   Quoting vona     Also extraordinary ones do not care much about grammar    Am I extraordinary?

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1747.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 01:26 am   Quoting nessah     yes exactly thats what i mean. so u cant blame her for giving up after 4 years even though i dont support giving up but sometimes u just get tired of never fully understand it   Why didnt I give up learning English? English grammar structure was so foreign for me. And it is not easy for a Turk to learn English.

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1748.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 01:21 am   Quoting nessah     isnt abla finnish? ive heard that turkish isnt that extremly difficult to learn if u know finnish language, but if u speak swedish/english like us then its a lot different and more difficult   I guess Turkish is always difficult to learn. But Finnish and Turkish languages have similar grammar structures. So maybe it can be a little easier for a Finnish to understand the Turkish grammar structure.

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1749.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 01:16 am   Quoting vona     I think you are not supposed to be lokumi.. What about being red bitter pepper?    Pepper to enemies, lokum to friends

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1750.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 01:15 am Abla is a great example of success. I think instead of giving up, you should take her as an example. elenagabriela, Efi70 and ahmet_a1b2 liked this message

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1751.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 01:10 am   Quoting vona     My vote, as well, goes to him Sexiest man

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1752.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 01:09 am I want to save you all. But is it possible?

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1753.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 01:06 am   Quoting sashk OK, I give up. I have been learning Turkish for quite some time and it has been full of big struggles and small victories. I haven´t posted much, but I´ve visited this site almost everyday since I registered about 4 years ago. I struggled with making sense of grammar, then things eventually made sense. However, I feel like total and absolute failure when constantly confronted by things like "hyperonyme NP´s". I admit defeat. The simple becomes impossible. Perhaps I should spend my time attending a course in linguistics before I bother continuing with Turkish again. Could admin please remove me from this site, thank you. Oh please sahk dont give up. After all studying you came a long way. I wish I could help you more. But the time difference and my studies hinder me. I think you should go on.

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1754.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 12:58 am   Quoting nessah why dont ya´ll talk in private or in somewhere else and give some respects to Lady_A? my god....   Meh. We dont even talk about her.

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1755.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 12:55 am   Quoting tunci   I am off  this thread, good nite friends !    Good night tunci.

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1756.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 12:54 am   Quoting Efi70   Hmmmm don´t take it for granted    Turkish delights are best

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1757.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 12:51 am   Quoting tunci   Now, this discussion is about to giving birth to another discussion --->  Turkish Men  versus Greek Men.. Please represent Turkey tunci You are  a good example. I vote for you.

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1758.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 12:47 am   Quoting Efi70 For some moments i thought i was in a greek site    You cant find men like us in greek sites

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1759.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 12:46 am   Quoting vona     Do not we really?    Of course we dont

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1760.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 12:45 am   Quoting vona     Hocam, do not let him kiss you! Are you jealous?

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1761.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 12:45 am   Quoting nessah ok thnx.     Only thanks?

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1762.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 12:42 am   Quoting nessah İnsan neler öğreniyor yaşarken. Mesela, aşk acısı kalpte oluşuyor ama asıl yarayı ruh alıyor. Yani, sonunda her şarkı bitiyor ama hiçbir şarkı ölmüyor.   People learn a lot of things while living. Forexample heartache appears in heart but the soul takes the biggest wound. At the end every song ends but no song dies.   For God´s sake what he tries to say? Please someone explain me. Everybody is philosopher now. Abla liked this message

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1763.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 12:39 am   Quoting tunci     To be honest, I have involved in many stupid arguments in the past too. And I realized that this type of arguments are just satisfying our egos but on the other hand it is being such a bad example for learners and it puts them off .  there is never a winner .. lets go back to our main goal "teaching Turkish" [helping Turkish learners] I agree withh Gokuyum, We should not involve our mothers in this. cos it is unacceptable and will cause a big fight.           Tunci, let me kiss you dear

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1764.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 12:29 am   Quoting nessah   i havent been a member here for that long and every week i see fights like this here, its so silly and stupid. sometimes i just shake my head and thinking is this really a site for LEARNING and HELPING people with turkish language??, cuz it sure doesnt look like it most of the time.       There are many egoist people in this forum including me. So it is normal that we fight a lot. But I never include others´ mothers and sisters into my fights. This is really pitiful. Edited (4/7/2013) by gokuyum Efi70 and nemanjasrb liked this message

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1765.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 12:24 am   Quoting tunci     its not that..it just this type of stupid arguments has been recorded many many times on tc, and never helped to learners , on the contarary its just given only one message that is   turks likes to arguing on  stupid things.      I am not representitive of Turks. It is a big responsibility to carry for me

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1766.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 12:21 am   Quoting nessah   burak stop it, thats very rude and childish thing to say     Nessah do you see who you support?

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1767.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 12:18 am   Quoting burakk     yeah i agree. your mother loved that a lot   Why do you include my mother to discussion? It shows how a person you are.    vona, tunci and Efi70 liked this message

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1768.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 12:15 am   Quoting vona     You deserve it!    E tu Brutus?

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1769.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 12:12 am   Quoting tunci   Let´s stop this this never ending discussion as poor LadyA is already upset by what she learnt in her translation.. to respect her feelings lets stop this stupid discussion.   I did. But some people really like oral masturbation

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1770.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 12:07 am I am really tired. I dont want to argue anymore. What I will say last is "ten uyumu" is "sexual chemistry" tunci liked this message

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1771.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2013 Sun 12:01 am   Quoting burakk     you cant make things unreal by just saying so. thats called personal assurence, mostly happens after a great shock of failure. im sorry i caused such an effect on you by simply pasting you several sources about it But your source says the same thing what I say. Sex is not only a physical phenemenon. If you desire someone it is a sexual thing. And ten uyumu is about sex. What do you think it is about for God´s sake? It is about friendship?

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1772.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Apr 2013 Sat 11:56 pm   Quoting burakk     the fact that they are virtual means that they are biased on personal emotions and are subjective, which is fallacy. unless you take pleasure from defending things that you think are wrong The thing is I defend what I think is real which is real and you defend what you think is real which is not

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1773.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Apr 2013 Sat 11:49 pm   Quoting burakk     glad that we agree on the fact that you objections are virtual   It doesnt mean it is wrong because I think it is real. Most of the time what I think real is real. And it is not different now

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1774.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Apr 2013 Sat 11:47 pm   Quoting burakk     so you are doing ego trips about something that you dont think is real?   I guess so.

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1775.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Apr 2013 Sat 11:44 pm   Quoting burakk     you wouldnt get angry over my correction if you thought that taking me serious was a mistake. correct that Yes if yours was a real correction.

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1776.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Apr 2013 Sat 11:42 pm Nessah you support the enemy? Traitor  nemanjasrb liked this message

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1777.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Apr 2013 Sat 11:37 pm   Quoting burakk also i dont understand why you guys cant handle the fact that i correct your mistakes   My biggest mistake was to take you serious. Please correct it too. Edited (4/6/2013) by gokuyum

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1778.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Apr 2013 Sat 09:39 pm   Quoting tunci     It is not obviously wrong, actually  it is not wrong at all.  Forget everything and get on the street and ask 10 people on the street if what comes to their mind when they hear "ten uyumu" , 9 out of 10 will automatically say it is  "sexual harmony". Thats what that means in people´s mind.  Yeah because ten(skin) obviously implies sex. It doesnt imply character or soul.

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1779.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Apr 2013 Sat 09:37 pm Aşk zorluktur ahmet_a1b2 liked this message

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1780.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Apr 2013 Sat 09:34 pm   Quoting burakk there is no point in trying to defend something thats obviously wrong. dont be ashamed we all do mistakes We have different opinions. There is no need to argue more.   tunci liked this message

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1781.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Apr 2013 Sat 09:15 pm   Quoting burakk     really? when was the last time you had social sex? or psychological?   Sex is a social and pshycological phenemonon too. Read Freud and you will see the importance of sex in human pshycology.

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1782.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Apr 2013 Sat 08:28 pm   Quoting burakk     if you dont know about something please dont bother attempting to correct it.   "Ten uyumu, dokunmayı karşı koyulamaz hale getiren, feromonlar gibi hormonal, bilinçaltı süreçler gibi psikolojik ve tarafların birbirlerinin cinsel anlayışına hitap eden öğelere sahip olması durumu gibi, sosyal çerçevelerde iki kişi arasında meydana gelen olumlu ve çekici etkileşimlere verilen isimdir." http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_uyumu       It is still sexual chemistry

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1783.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Apr 2013 Sat 10:35 am "ten uyumu" doesnt mean only chemistry, it means "sexual chemistry". It literally means "skin harmony". Edited (4/6/2013) by gokuyum ikibir and vona liked this message

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1784.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Apr 2013 Sat 10:22 am   Quoting tunci     Confucius says: [Konfüçyüs  der ki :]     I say Confucius that: Facebook is in, you are out.

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1785.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Apr 2013 Sat 10:17 am   Quoting nessah how can "onun evi" mean "His house" and at the same time mean "The house of that" ?   "o" is both pronoun and adjective in Turkish. But in English you can´t use he/she/it as an adjactive. You can´t say "he car". You must say "that car" But in Turkish there is no such difference. Edited (4/6/2013) by gokuyum Edited (4/6/2013) by gokuyum

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1786.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Apr 2013 Sat 10:03 am Fenerbahçe´nin Avrupa fobisi umarım nüksetmez de turu geçerler

Thread: english to turkish and so on....

1787.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Apr 2013 Sat 10:02 am How different? I dont see a big difference. If he could speak proper English I am sure he would understand you. You should tell him to go to an English course. There are many courses in Turkey. He can learn some English in a year and he can communicate without help.    Quoting beautifullies28   ive explained to him i do not speak proper english and american language is different.

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1788.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Apr 2013 Tue 05:41 pm Do they need an imam for the mosque? I could be a great imam

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1789.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Apr 2013 Tue 05:37 pm Front page is full of my song translations. Lets see if we can find a place for you too

Thread: Timur Selçuk - İspanyol Meyhanesi

1790.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Apr 2013 Mon 06:16 pm   Timur Selçuk – İspanyol Meyhanesi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaUvXFWzTm0   Kararmış, tahta masamızda bir şişe şarap Gecelerden bir gece, bezginiz Üstelik, adamakıllı sarhoşuz, ellerin ellerimde… İspanyol meyhanesinde bir kadın, çığlık çığlığa şarkı söylüyor Belli yıkılmış bir kadın, hayli çirkin, hayli geçkin, ağlamaklı A bottle of wine on our darkened, wooden table. It is a night of nights, we are weary of life. Furthermore we are very drunk, your hands are on my hands. In Spanish tavern a woman sings a song screaming. Apparently she is a broken woman, very ugly, very old, weepy.   Zayıf, incecik elli, incecik elli, kalın dudaklı Sesi bir tokat gibi patlıyor kulaklarımızda Yüzümüz al al oluyor, içimiz hüzün dolu, kahır dolu, Gözlerimiz kanlı She is thin, she has thin hands, she has thick lips. Her voice bursts in our ears like a slap. Our faces become red, we are full of sorrow and sadness. Our eyes are bloody. Yeter, yeter… Öleceksek ölelim Haydi vur kendini şaraba, kedere ve aşka vur Daha içelim hey… Daha içelim hey hey… Enough, enough... Lets die, if we have to. Come on, lose yourself in wine, throw yourself into grief and love. Lets drink more hey... Lets drink more hey hey... İspanyol meyhanesinde bir gece Seninle, seninle başbaşayız Üstelik, sarhoşuz adamakıllı, daha içelim, daha içelim… İspanyol meyhanesinde öldüğümüzü kimse bilmesin Hey garson, bütün hesaplar benden bu gece, sen de iç, sen de iç Kapat kapıları, kapat, kapat, yabancı girmesin İspanyol meyhanesinde öldüğümüzü kimse bilmesin Ölelim, ölelim artık, bitsin bu delicesine koşu, bitsin bu koşu In  Spanish tavern, at a night we are together. Furthermore we are very drunk, lets drink more, drink more. Let nobody know that we died in  Spanish tavern. Hey waiter, I will pay for everyone, come, you drink too, you drink too. Close the doors, close, close, let no stranger come in. Let nobody know that we died in Spanish tavern. Lets die, lets die now, let this crazy run end, let it end. Yeter, yeter… Öleceksek ölelim Haydi vur kendini şaraba, kedere ve aşka vur Daha içelim hey… Daha içelim hey hey… Enough, enough. Lets die if we have to. Come on, lose yourself in wine, throw yourself into grief and love. Lets drink more hey. Lets drink more hey hey.   Edited (4/1/2013) by gokuyum Edited (4/2/2013) by gokuyum ahmet_a1b2, ikibir and giz liked this message

Thread: Timur Selçuk - Karantinalı Despina

1791.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Apr 2013 Mon 05:13 pm It seems there are many Timur Selçuk fans here ikibir and nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: eng-turk please. thank you

1792.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Apr 2013 Mon 05:13 pm   Quoting maryilyons Thank you in advance for the translation. Much appreciated.   Well, well, well, it seems you have become quite the lawyer. Actually, I have to thank you for bringing this to my attention. I have rewritten my blog entries, which I believe will make them even more effective at getting my message across to tourists. I hope you will go back and read them again. And I was very happy to remove your photos from those entries. I hope you like my changes and thanks again for the inspiration to make my writing even better.     Vay, vay, vay. Öyle gözüküyor ki çok iyi bir hukuçu olmuşsun. Aslında bu konuyu dikkatime sunduğun için sana teşekkür etmeliyim. Blog girdilerimi tekrar yazdım. İnanıyorum ki böylece turistlerin verdiğim mesajları almalarında daha etkili olacaklar. Umarım onlara tekrar göz atar ve okursun. Senin fotoğraflarını da girdilerden kaldırdığım için çok mutluyum. Umarım yaptığım değişiklikleri seversin ve bana daha iyi yazmak konusunda verdiğin ilham için teşekkür ederim.

Thread: Timur Selçuk - Karantinalı Despina

1793.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Apr 2013 Mon 04:54 pm   Quoting vona Thank you for sharing it with us.. da niye zırhlı´ya armored ship falan demedin?     nota bene Senden daha çok Timur Selçuk bekliyoruz!   Valla haklısın. Hemen değiştirelim.

Thread: Timur Selçuk - Karantinalı Despina

1794.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Apr 2013 Mon 03:02 am Timur Selçuk - Karantinalı Despina http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfvg6J9SCpY   Karantinalı Despina Despina of Karantina   bir gül takıp da sevdalı her gece saçlarına  çıktı mı deprem sanırdın ´ kara kız ´ kantosuna  titreşir kadehler camlar kırılır alkışlardan  muammer bey´in gözdesi karantina´lı despina  You would think it was an earthquake when she comes to stage for "black girl" canto putting a lovely rose on her hair. Goblets tremble, glasses are broken because of applause. The favorite of Mr. Muammer, Despina of Karantina. çapkın gülüşü şöyle faytona binişi kordelia´dan  ne kadar başkaydı her kadından her bakımdan  sınırsız bir mutlulukta uyuturdu muammer bey´i  ustalıkla damıttığı o tantanalı aşklarından  Her vagabond smile, her getting on phaeton from Cordellia was so different than every women in every aspect. She used to make Mr. Muammer sleep with an endless happines which she had distelled from her pompous loves with great skill. işgal altüst etti nasıl da izmir´de her şeyi  öğrendi kullanmasını despina bu yanlış geceyi  körfez´de parıldayan yunan zırhlılarına karşı  miralay zafiru´yla ispilandit palas´ta sevişmeyi   Invasion turned everything upside down in İzmir. Despina learned how to use this wrong night. She made love with colonel Zafiru in Ispilandit Palace facing the Greek armored ships shining in gulf. gemi sinyallerinin gece bahçelere yansıması  havuzda samanyolunun hisarbuselik şarkısı  demlendikçe yalnızlığı aydınlanıyor muammer bey  olmayacak şey bir insanın bir insanı anlaması   The reflection of ship signals on gardens at nights, the hisarbuse song of samanyolu in pool. As loneliness of Mr. Muammer is steeped, he gets enlightened. It is an impossible thing for a human to understand other. Atilla İlhan   Edited (4/1/2013) by gokuyum Edited (4/1/2013) by gokuyum Edited (4/1/2013) by gokuyum Edited (4/1/2013) by gokuyum Edited (4/1/2013) by gokuyum Edited (4/1/2013) by gokuyum Edited (4/1/2013) by gokuyum ikibir, nemanjasrb and elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: Turkish Art Music

1795.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Apr 2013 Mon 02:27 am Fatih Kısaparmak - Haydi Abbas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfBpQ2xRZHE     Haydi Abbas Come on Abbas Haydi Abbas, vakit tamam; Come on Abbas, it is the time. Akşam diyordun işte oldu akşam. You were saying “wait untill the evening” It is now.. Kur bakalım çilingir soframizı; Set our rakı table Dinsin artık bu kalp ağrısı. And let this heartache cease now. Şu ağacın gölgesinde olsun; Set it under the shadow of this tree. Tam kenarında havuzun. Exactly beside the pool. Aya haber sal çıksın bu gece; Send a message to the moon, let it appear tonight. Görünsün şöyle gönlümce. Let it appear as I wish Bas kırbacı sihirli seccadeye, Whip the flying carpet Göster hükmettiğini mesafeye Show how you rule the distance Ve zamana.And time Katıp tozu dumana, Raising a cloud of dust Var git, Go Böyle ferman etti Cahit, Thus commanded Cahit Al getir ilk sevgiliyi Beşiktaş´tan; Take and bring first beloved from Beşiktaş Yaşamak istiyorum gençliğimi baştan. I want to live my youth since the beginning.   Edited (4/1/2013) by gokuyum ikibir liked this message

Thread: need help!!

1796.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Mar 2013 Sun 06:03 pm   Quoting nessah but I still want the original translation....hope someone can find it ..   me?

Thread: tr to en

1797.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Mar 2013 Sun 01:55 am Benim durumum da tam öyle şu an

Thread: HOŞ GİDİŞLER OLA !

1798.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Mar 2013 Sun 01:24 am http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHGVz5iEY_Q   Hahaha

Thread: T 2 E PLS

1799.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Mar 2013 Sat 12:12 am   Quoting nessah Biri şu Aşk´ın gece tarifesini kapatsın. Geceleri daha fazla can yakıyor..   Please someone close the night charge of love. It hurts more at night. nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: asking questions in turkish?

1800.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Mar 2013 Fri 05:25 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb I dont understand now, why it´s nereDE gidiyorsun and not nereYE. I thought in Turkish it must be like that,which is unlike in my and English language.   "nerede gidiyorsun" and "nereye gidiyorsun" don´t have same meaning. "nereye gidiyorsun" means "where do you go?"     For "nerede" lets imagine a dialogue like this:  A: Üniversiteye gidiyorum.  B: Nerede gidiyorsun? A: Ankara´da.   In this dialogue "nerede" has a meaning like "in which city" Edited (3/29/2013) by gokuyum lana-, nemanjasrb and tunci liked this message

Thread: Gokuyum´s Favorite Folk Songs ;)

1801.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Mar 2013 Fri 03:07 pm Always

Thread: HOŞ GİDİŞLER OLA !

1802.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Mar 2013 Fri 03:02 pm   Quoting AlphaF     Funny, no one else seems to ask this question; not even gokuyum ! Why even not me? I hope they will never come back. I want peace.   Edited (3/29/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Gokuyum´s Favorite Folk Songs ;)

1803.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Mar 2013 Fri 02:49 pm Senden bana yar olmaz  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jQZnTCMG8I   Senden bana yar olmaz Olsa vefâkar olmaz  You cant be my lover Even you could, you wouldnt be loyal Kışa çevirme yazımı Çalıp dinletme sazımı Küstürüp sen al nazımı Yaralıyam yaralı  Dont turn my summer into winter Dont make me play and listen to my saz You offended me, appease me I am wounded, wounded. Her ağaçta bar olmaz Seven bahtiyar olmaz  There is no fruit on every tree. A lover cant be happy. Kışa çevirme yazımı Çalıp dinletme sazımı Küstürüp sen al nazımı Yaralıyam yaralı   Dont turn my summer into winter Dont make me play and listen to my saz You offended me, appease me I am wounded, wounded.   Yar ki yardan ayrılsın Ağlamaktır neşesi For a lover who is seperated from his beloved Only joy is to cry. Kışa çevirme yazımı Çalıp dinletme sazımı Küstürüp sen al nazımı Yaralıyam yaralı   Dont turn my summer into winter Dont make me play and listen to my saz You offended me, appease me I am wounded, wounded. Yöre: Artvin Kaynak kişi: Hasan Çıtak Derleyen ve notaya alan: Muzaffer Sarısözen   Edited (3/29/2013) by gokuyum Edited (3/29/2013) by gokuyum Edited (5/17/2013) by gokuyum trip, elenagabriela and ikibir liked this message

Thread: Turkish Art Music

1804.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Mar 2013 Fri 02:32 pm   Quoting ikicihan     dini musikiye eyvallah, ilahiye mevlide eyvallah, klasik muzige eyvallah. ama çalgıyla kuran okumaya cevaz verecek hocanın alnını karışlarım! bu biraz modern zamanlarin işi ve araya bilerek veya bilmeyerek sokuşturulmuş. ecdad böyle hinlik yapacak kadar cehl içre değildü.   Hocam valla müzik seni Allah´a ulaştırıyorsa ayetin müziğe dahil edilmesinde bir sakınca yoktur diye düşünüyorum. Tabi fetva makamı değilim Oradaki yabancılar bu müzikten çok etkilenmiş görünüyorlardı. Belki bu müzik sayesinde kalbi İslam´a ısınanlar bile olmuştur. Demek istediğim hüküm vermekte acele etmemek lazım.

Thread: Turkish Art Music

1805.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Mar 2013 Fri 02:07 am   Quoting ikicihan     ortalarda kur´andan bazı ayetler okunuyor. bu esnada müzik çalmaya devam ediyor. çok sakıncalı. o kısım çıkarılmalı, müziğe diyecek bir şeyim yok ama çalgıyla kur´an okumak olmamış. kaş yapayım derken göz çıkarmak gibi birşey olmuş. Bu konuda tartışma çıkmış zaten. Ama dini musiki diye bir şey olduğuna göre demek ki ecdadımız bu durumu sakıncalı bulmamış   Edited (3/29/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Turkish Art Music

1806.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Mar 2013 Thu 11:17 pm Ömer Faruk Tekbilek - Yunus http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVJmH3pBzog   So great. I am in Nirvana now.

Thread: Please Translation English ..

1807.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Mar 2013 Thu 10:47 pm   Quoting deli NOPE not even any thanks for the attempts I made on the others.     Likes and thanks are the two biggest motivations for me.

Thread: asking questions in turkish?

1808.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Mar 2013 Thu 01:26 am   Quoting tunci     Yes, yorgun is tired.   But "yorulmak" is to get tired .      Yoruldum be usta   tunci liked this message

Thread: Turkish Art Music

1809.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Mar 2013 Wed 11:57 pm   Quoting ikibir All places are dark my beautiful angel Only in your tomb you have light my inncent flower   I wear your blond hair as a white stem Open your arms let me come near you   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exDcNeaavfQ  A very interesting musical interaction. Thank you ikibir for sharing this song.   Edited (3/27/2013) by gokuyum ikibir liked this message

Thread: Turkish Art Music

1810.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Mar 2013 Wed 11:47 pm   Quoting AlphaF I also have an objection to the term "TURKISH ART MUSIC". Though the Turkish translation (Türk San´at Müziği) of the term is widely used even on the Turkish State Radio, it does not sound right to me even in Turkish. The type of Turkish music sampled in this thread is better called TURKISH CLASSICAL MUSIC.   You have objection to everything Alpha

Thread: Turkish Art Music

1811.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Mar 2013 Wed 02:13 pm   Quoting vona     Zor bir soru.  her yer karanlık pür nur o mevki  mağrip mi yoksa makber mi ya rab Ben bu dizelerden şunu anlıyorum: "Her yer" gibi, o anda, "karanlık" olması gereken "makber"in akşamın batan güneşini (mağrip) yansıtan saf bir aydınlık (pür nur) içinde olması gibi aykırı/şaşılası/doğa üstü bir durumu tasvir ediyor şair.. sanki, "makber" değil de "mağrip" tesbitini yapıyor..   Tabii, şimdi, tut bunu ingilizceye çevir dersen bu durum benim üç kuruşluk ingilizcemi fena halde aşar (everywhere is dark except for the place where is fully bright / as if it is not grave but sunset) .. "Fully bright" ile "sunset" pek uymadı ama benden bu kadar.. Tek başınasın yani  Heheh. Yardımın için sağol

Thread: Google Words

1812.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Mar 2013 Tue 11:31 pm   Quoting Abla The Swedish language Institute, Språkrådet, published a list of new Swedish words last year. One of these newcomer words was the adjective o|google|bar, lit. something like un|google|able. It was explained as something that cannot be found using the usual web search tools. Google objected this definition and put pressure on the Institute to change the definition into something that cannot be found by using the Google tool.   Språkrådet deleted ogooglebar from the new words list.   Have words including "google" entered Turkish vocabulary yet? Yes. gugıllamak   trip liked this message

Thread: Fenerbahce in quarterfinals !

1813.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Mar 2013 Tue 11:29 pm   Quoting tunci     Fenerbahce sevgisi ele verdi onu...Ama iyi oldu.. Sahsen tekrar burada onu görmek memnuniyet verici.    Yav ben onu kız bile zannettim.

Thread: Fenerbahce in quarterfinals !

1814.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Mar 2013 Tue 11:24 pm   Quoting tunci     Hoş geldin Scalpel !!!  Si++  ile sohbetinizi bölmeyeyim ben siz devam edin.   Anaaa. Vona scalpel çıktı   tunci liked this message

Thread: Turkish Art Music

1815.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Mar 2013 Tue 11:22 pm   Quoting vona magrip (garp; gurup): direction in which the sun sets => evening  ---> old    İngilizceye mağrip kelimesini bu şiir bağlamında nasıl çevirmek lazım? Mağrip kelimesiyle güneşin battığı anın kastedildiğini ben de biliyorum ama nasıl bir sözcük kullanmak lazım gelir onu çözemedim. Edited (3/26/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Turkish Art Music

1816.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Mar 2013 Tue 11:19 pm   Quoting tunci     Thanks alot Ustad ! Zahmet oldu.  Can I have another request ?  Şaka şaka.   Efendim ne demek Böyle güzel bir şarkıysa iste. En geç yarına çeviririm.

Thread: Turkish Art Music

1817.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Mar 2013 Tue 11:10 pm Dede Efendi - Ey Buti Nev Eda http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj65ohO9DL0   ey büti nev eda olmuşum müptela aşıkım ben sana iltifat et bana   O new mannered idol I am addicted to you I am in love with you Be nice to me. gördüğümden beri olmuşum serseri bendenem ey peri iltifat et bana   Since I have seen you I have become an outcast I am your servant o fairy Be nice to me hasılı bunca dem ben senin bendenem gel gel ey gonca fem iltifat et bana   In short all this time I have been your servant Come come o bud-like mouth Be nice to me Edited (3/26/2013) by gokuyum ikibir and tunci liked this message

Thread: Turkish Art Music

1818.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Mar 2013 Tue 10:57 pm   Quoting tunci   Can I make a request ?  Hammamîzâde İsmail Dede Efendi - Ey Bûti Nev Eda   ?       Let me find it and try to translate it

Thread: Turkish Art Music

1819.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Mar 2013 Tue 10:52 pm Selma Hünel - Bir İhtimal Daha Var http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiTATNFfk40   Bir ihtimal daha var  O da ölmek mi dersin  Söyle canım ne dersin  Vuslatın başka alem  Sen bir ömre bedelsin   There is another possibility Do you think that it is to die? Say dear what do you think? To reunion with you is a different pleasure You are worth a life   Sükut etme nazlı yar  Beni mecnun edersin  Vuslatın başka alem  Sen bir ömre bedelsin   Don´t be quiet o coy beloved You make me crazy To reunion with you is a different pleasure You are worth a life. catwoman, ikibir and tunci liked this message

Thread: Turkish Art Music

1820.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Mar 2013 Tue 10:38 pm   Quoting vona     This is not to criticise your work but to point out a thing that maybe a few might find it interesting/usefull.  Nur is reflected light. For example moonlight is nur (but not ziya) as it is reflection of sunlight. In islamic terminology nur is the reflection of divine goodness. For example it may reflect on a person´s face: nur yüzlü (nur faced)    "Divine light" olarak düzelttim.

Thread: Turkish Art Music

1821.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Mar 2013 Tue 10:37 pm   Quoting AlphaF     "mağrip mi yoksa makber mi ya rab"   Şairin sorusu "burası batı mı, yoksa bir mezar mı? diye tercüme edilince işin bütün şiirselliği kayboluyor. Üzerinde biraz daha düşünürsen, belki şairin şiirselliğini yakalayabilirsin.   Önerilere açığım.

Thread: Turkish Art Music

1822.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Mar 2013 Mon 09:18 pm Burhan Çaçan - Makber http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SUsVRaLgk0   her yer karanlık pür nur o mevki  mağrip mi yoksa makber mi ya rab ya habgah-ı dilber mi ya rab rüya değil bu, ayniyle vaki    Everywhere is dark but that place is full of divine light Is it west or grave o Lord? Or is it the sleeping place of beloved o Lord? This is not a dream, it is real. kabri çiçekten bir türbe olmuş dönmüş o türbe bir haclegahe  bir haclegahe dönmüşse türben aç koynunu aç maşukanım ben"    Her grave has become a shrine made of flowers That shrine has become a bride room If your shrine has become a bride room Open your arms, I am your lover. Edited (3/25/2013) by gokuyum Edited (3/26/2013) by gokuyum ikibir, basima and nifrtity liked this message

Thread: E to T please my attempt

1823.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Mar 2013 Mon 09:31 am   Quoting Inscrutable Ben aç değilim, dün geceden hala beri tokem. I´m not hungry I´m still full from last night. Thank you     basima liked this message

Thread: t ,2 e pls

1824.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Mar 2013 Sun 01:43 am   Quoting nessah Seni o kadar çok özledim ki özlemek kelimesi hafif kalır, şu an tek istediğim sana sımsıkı sarılmak.   Uyurken izlemek istediğin birini istesen de unutamazsın. I missed you so much. To describe it even the verb "to miss" is not enough. All I want now is to hug you tight.   You cant forget someone who you want to watch when she sleeps even you want to forget.   Edited (3/24/2013) by gokuyum HaNNo and nessah liked this message

Thread: -tadır suffix after verbs

1825.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Mar 2013 Sun 01:07 am   Quoting PwnerKebab Hi I was wondering if anyone can help me understand the use of the -tadır suffix after some verbs. eg) Ayasofya Türkiye´nin İstanbul ilinde yer almaktadır. I think this is a very formal suffix beause I only see it in articles and news sites, but I dont really understand the grammar behind it. If anyone can provide more examples that would be really helpfull too.   Thanks       Yes it is a very formal usage. And I think it is not a gramatically correct usage. Instead of it using present continous tense would be better.   Analysis: git-mek-te-dir git - root of the verb gitmek - to go or going gitmekte - on going gitmektedir - he/she/it is on going   İnstead of saying gitmektedir (he is on going), it is better to say gidiyor (he is going)

Thread: Turkish Art Music

1826.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Mar 2013 Sun 12:53 am Bülent Ersoy - Burası Agora Meyhanesi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3IxF4BTUXY Burası Agora meyhanesi Burda yaşar aşkların En divânesi en şahânesi Here is Agora tavern Here lives the craziest and greatest love of all. Bu gece benim gecem Bu gece benim gecem Cama vuran her damlada Seni hatırlıyorum Ve sana susuzluğumu Tonight is my night Tonight is my night With the every drop hits the window I remember you and my thirst for you Bu aksam ümitlerimi Meze yapıp içiyorum İçiyor içiyorum Tonight I drink making my hopes appetizers I drink, I drink. Bu gece benim gecem Bu gece benim gecem Cama vuran her damlada Seni hatırlıyorum Ve sana susuzluğumu Tonight is my night Tonight is my night With the every drop hits the window I remember you and my thirst for you Edited (3/24/2013) by gokuyum Edited (3/24/2013) by gokuyum basima, nifrtity and ikibir liked this message

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

1827.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Mar 2013 Sun 12:34 am   Quoting tunci     Yes, it doesn´t make much sense but it is colloquial usage that quite few people use that way. Yes, it is.

Thread: Turkish Art Music

1828.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Mar 2013 Sun 12:32 am Zeki Müren - Gökyüzünde Yalnız Gezen Yıldızlar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpG2uC3F7MU   Gökyüzünde yalnız gezen yıldızlar,  Yeryüzünde sizin kadar yalnızım,  Bir haykırsam belki duyulur sesim,  Ben yalnızım, ben yalnızım, yalnızım.    O stars wandering lonely in sky I am as lonely as you on earth If I shout maybe my voice can be heard I am alone, I am alone, alone Kaderim bu böyle yazılmış yazım,  Hiçkimsenin aşkında yoktur gözüm,  Bir yalnızlık şarkısı çalar sazım,  Ben yalnızım, ben yalnızım, yalnızım.   It is my destiny, my fate is written like that I dont have an eye on anybody´s love My saz plays a song of loneliness I am alone, I am alone, alone   Tatmadığım zevk kalmadı dünyada,  Hangi kalbe girdimse kaldı izim,  Taşa geçer kendime geçmez sözüm,  Ben yalnızım, ben yalnızım, yalnızım.    There is no pleasure left I havent tasted on world I left my mark in every heart I was in My word even has influence on stone but not on myself I am alone, I am alone, alone Kaderim bu böyle yazılmış yazım,  Hiçkimsenin aşkında yoktur gözüm,  Bir yalnızlık şarkısı çalar sazım,  Ben yalnızım, ben yalnızım, yalnızım   It is my destiny, my fate is written like that I dont have an eye on anybody´s love My saz plays a song of loneliness I am alone, I am alone, alone catwoman, nifrtity and ikibir liked this message

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

1829.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Mar 2013 Sun 12:13 am   Quoting tunci     Rica ederim Abla. Yes, "fin" is noun and other two are adjectives. Mesela  ; Fin yemeği ---> Finnish food [meal]  ---> noun phrase Finli  atlet  ---> Finnish athlete  ---> adjective phrase Finlandiyalı şair --->  Finnish  poet. Fince  =  Finnish Language Finlandiyalılık   ----> Finnishness [ I dont know if there is a word like this ] Finlandiyalılaştıramadıklarımızdan mısınız ?  --> this is may be the longest word in turkish related to finland. ==============================================   Türk ---> [person]  Turk Türkçe  ---> Turkish language Türklük  ---> Turkishness Türk çayı  ---> Turkish tea Türkiyeli  --> A person who is from Turkey Türkçülük ---> Turkishism Türkiye´nin ırmakları  ---> The rivers of Turkey Türk milleti  ---> Turkish nation             I think Finli is not a correct word. It is same with saying Türklü. It doesnt make sense. Fin or Finlandiyalı is correct.

Thread: Turkish Art Music

1830.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Mar 2013 Sat 11:44 pm Lets share Turkish art music here:   Zeki Müren - Gözlerin Doğuyor Gecelerime http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_VrTh2Q4Dc   ne mektup geliyor ne haber senden  söyle de bileyim bıktın mı benden  her akşam güneşin battığı yerden  gözlerin doğuyor gecelerime    Neither a letter nor a news comes from you Tell me, so let me know, are you bored of me? Every night from where sun sets Your eyes rise in my nights.  çileli doğmuşum zaten ezelden  hasrete alıştım ne gelir elden  yaşlı gözlerime baktığın yerden  gözlerin doğuyor gecelerime    I was already born troubled since the beginning I am used to longing, what can I do? From where you look at my teary eyes Your eyes rise in my nights.   geçilmez gurbetin sokaklarından  içilmez suları pınarlarından  öptüğüm o ıslak dudaklarından  sözlerin doğuyor gecelerime    It is not possible to pass through the streets of foreign lands Their water can´t be drunk from their fountains From those wet lips I kissed Your words rise in my nights. çileli doğmuşum zaten ezelden  hasrete alıştım ne gelir elden  yaşlı gözlerime baktığın yerden  gözlerin doğuyor gecelerime     I was already born troubled since the beginning I am used to longing, what can I do? From where you look at my teary eyes Your eyes rise in my nights.   Note: Such a nice song.  Edited (3/23/2013) by gokuyum Edited (3/23/2013) by gokuyum Edited (3/23/2013) by gokuyum catwoman, basima, nifrtity, ikibir and tunci liked this message

Thread: T 2 E PLS

1831.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Mar 2013 Sat 09:14 pm   Quoting nessah ben onu demeye çalışmıyorum, sen ömerden ayrılabilirisin ama senin bizde yerin çok farklı özelsin anladın mı     I dont try to say that. You can leave Ömer but you have a different place in our hearts, you are special. Okay? nessah, basima and tunci liked this message

Thread: What is the best way to learn Turkish for a serious learner?

1832.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Mar 2013 Thu 10:54 pm   Quoting mom4maddi   easier said than done ....     Cant you give it a try?

Thread: Çanakkale Şehitlerine - Mehmet Akif Ersoy

1833.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Mar 2013 Thu 08:33 pm   Quoting Henry some of my thoughts on your excellent translation Şu Boğaz harbi nedir? Var mı ki dünyâda eşi?  What is that Bosphorus war? Is there an equivalent to it in the world? I have seen some versions of this poem with boğaz written without a capital letter. The war was fought around the Çanakkale Boğazı, so maybe şu boğaz in the poem could be thought of as that ´strait´ What is the war of that strait? and just a few small corrections made in red below Ne hayâsızca tehaşşüd ki ufuklar kapalı!  What a dishonourable gathering, because of it the horizons are overcast. Nerde-gösterdiği vahşetle ´bu: bir Avrupalı´  Where is “This is a European.” with the violence he shows? [normally in English, we use ´an´ when the following noun starts with a vowel, but with words starting with ´u´ or ´eu´, if they are pronounced like ´yu´, as in university, European, then we use ´a´]         1) Şu boğaz harbi :   şu is modifier boğaz harbi is modified   2) boğaz harbi boğaz is modifier harbi is modified

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1834.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Mar 2013 Thu 08:21 pm   Quoting MarioninTurkey      Everyone -- look again at #1. You need to put an ending on benze   r would solve the problem. Edited (3/21/2013) by gokuyum basima and tunci liked this message

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1835.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Mar 2013 Thu 08:19 pm Hanımağa

Thread: What is the best way to learn Turkish for a serious learner?

1836.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Mar 2013 Thu 08:18 pm Best way to learn Turkish is to be born as a Turk Edited (3/21/2013) by gokuyum irenee, slovenka007, HaNNo and harp00n liked this message

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1837.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Mar 2013 Tue 09:09 pm   Quoting ahmet_a1b2 My try: Our friend Sonia isnt as loyal as you. She demoralized both me and herself and vanished. I am so offended to her Who is Sonia? I guess you play too much Mortal Kombat   Edited (3/19/2013) by gokuyum

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1838.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Mar 2013 Tue 09:00 pm   Quoting Poeta     İÇİMDEKİ SEN You İnside Me   Bir yüreksin ki! Sevgi yolunu aydınlatan You are a heart which enlightens the road of love. Bir yüreksin ki! Dipsiz kuyu sarnıçlarında aşkı yaşatan You are a heart which makes love live in the cisterns of endless wells. Bir yüreksin ki! Sınırsız sevgi deryasına yelken açan You are a heart which sails in the endless sea of love. Bir yüreksin ki! Sabahlara kadar tiryakisi olunan You are a heart which makes addictive untill the dawn. Bir yüreksin ki! Dünyamda mevsimsiz çiçekleri açtıran You are a heart which makes flowers bloom in my world. Bir yüreksin ki! Yıldızları dans ettiren You are a heart which makes stars dance.   Bir yüreksin ki! Hasret denizlerinde boğulduğum You are a heart in whose seas of longing I am drowned Bir yüreksin ki! Dokunmaya bile kıyamadığım You are a heart which I dont even touch not to hurt Bir yüreksin ki! Yanımdayken özlediğim You are a heart which I miss even near me. Bir yüreksin ki! İçimde hiç batmayan güneşim You are a heart which is a sun never sets inside me. Bir yüreksin ki! Mutluluğun gizi You are a heart which is the secret of happiness Bir yüreksin ki! Dürüstlük timsali You are a heart which is an example of honesty   Bir yüreksin … Bana en büyük ARMAĞANsın… You are a heart. You are the biggest gift for me. İçimdeki sensin…sen…  It is you inside me...you...         Edited (3/19/2013) by gokuyum tunci and mikex liked this message

Thread: Please Translation Poem English ..

1839.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Mar 2013 Tue 07:41 am Good joke tunci and elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: Can someone tell me about some more awesome turkish music?

1840.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Mar 2013 Mon 09:01 am   Quoting tunci     A nice folk song called "Ballad of  Selonica "  It is known as  one of Atatürk´s favourite song.     Bir fırtına tuttu bizi deryaya saldı o bizim kavuşmalarımız a yarim mahşere kaldı mahpushanede yata yata yanlarım çürüdü pencereden baka baka a yarim ela gözler süzüldü yeni cezve yeni cezve kaynar kaynamaz oldu o benim nazlı yarimin dilleri söyler söylemez oldu   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ_y2XtzdWI     I love this song a lot.

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1841.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Mar 2013 Mon 09:00 am   Quoting tunci     zoruma gidiyor yani  ----> you know, it does hurt [me].   melih´i deniz yıldızı sayesinde görüp tanımışlar --->  They saw and got to know Merih through [because of ] Deniz Yıldızı.      Azer Bülbül´ün "Zoruna mı gitti kardaş" şarkısını bu arkadaşa hediye ediyorum. nifrtity liked this message

Thread: Çanakkale Şehitlerine - Mehmet Akif Ersoy

1842.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Mar 2013 Mon 08:55 am   Quoting hasanrize There is a little mistake "Bedr´in arslanları ancak, bu kadar şanlı idi.  The lions of Bedir were barely this much glorious." this is mistake. "Bedr´in arslanları ancak, bu kadar şanlı idi." and "Bedr´in arslanları, ancak bu kadar şanlı idi." are like similar but very different. I think true translate is,  Only The Lions of Bedir were as this much glorious.     I agree I edited it. And I edited one more mistake. It is a really difficult poem to translate. I tried my best. And thank you for reading it carefully and noticing my mistake.

Thread: the meaning please tur - english

1843.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Mar 2013 Mon 08:45 am   Quoting xxsexy_smithyxx   Benim gulu$um yasadigim tum acilara kapak olsun... I´ve tried google translater and maybe I should lay off that because I dunno like it didn´t really make any sense :/ Is the sentence to do with love or loving someone? maybe a new love? thanks   This is slang. So we cant translate this sentence literaly. Let me try: Let my smile mock all the sufferings I have exprienced.

Thread: Fenerbahce in quarterfinals !

1844.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Mar 2013 Sat 08:27 pm Galatasaray Real´e yenilirse Fenerbahçe de yenilmiş sayılsa ve beraber elensek olmaz mı? Fener´i yalnız bırakmaya gönlüm el vermiyor Edited (3/16/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Group demands ´male brothel´ in Turkey

1845.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Mar 2013 Sat 08:22 pm   Quoting thehandsom     You have to be  careful about the "honour killing". I am sure you can imagine the situation like ´ one of the clients falls for you and she happens to be a  quite posessive woman and she tells you to stop and you can NOT because you need money and the woman goes " you are either mine or you are dead" and  shoots you and then shouts back "I cleared my honur" as she walks away between two policemen!!´ That would be such a tragic end for me An opera about it would be nice.   Edited (3/16/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Group demands ´male brothel´ in Turkey

1846.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Mar 2013 Sat 05:26 pm   Quoting thehandsom http://www.radikal.com.tr/Radikal.aspx?aType=RadikalDetayV3&ArticleID=1125403&CategoryID=77       I could be one I guess. Then I would wait a woman to save me from that life lana- liked this message

Thread: Some abbreviations in Turkish

1847.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Mar 2013 Sat 05:22 pm gkym : gökuyum basima and tunci liked this message

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1848.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Mar 2013 Sat 05:21 pm I like unity my dear teacher Tunci. My motto is unite non-stop basima and tunci liked this message

Thread: Temel Joke

1849.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Mar 2013 Sat 05:18 pm   Quoting tunci     Ne diyeydim gokuyum     Hocam halifeyede müslim pope diyebiliriz o zaman   tunci liked this message

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1850.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Mar 2013 Sat 04:47 pm Hocam muslim priest ne ola? Allah iyiliğini versin senin   Edited (3/16/2013) by gokuyum tunci liked this message

Thread: [a] egelmek

1851.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Mar 2013 Sat 07:37 am kök ikiden bu yana devam eden irasyonel sayılar tunci liked this message

Thread: Tam üstüne basmak

1852.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Mar 2013 Sat 07:33 am boka basmak (slang) to step on shit Meaning: to get into a mess     basima, mikex, elenagabriela and Henry liked this message

Thread: SECRET LIFE OF SPIDERMAN

1853.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Mar 2013 Sat 07:28 am   Quoting thehandsom     Not every Turk suffers from inferior complex.. There are many of us out there living like any body in the world without feeling either superior or inferior to anybody. Many of us out there who dont think Turkish teams success is a reason to feel  superior..   I have always felt like an übermensch

Thread: Fenerbahce in quarterfinals !

1854.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Mar 2013 Sat 05:01 am Real Galatasaray´ın üstünden tır gibi geçer Sinan Abi  Not. Böyle diyeyim de belki turu geçeriz Edited (3/16/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: SECRET LIFE OF SPIDERMAN

1855.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Mar 2013 Fri 10:14 am Oh I am exposed

Thread: Correction T 2 E

1856.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Mar 2013 Fri 10:12 am   Quoting Scott88 Hi! Could you please check whether my translation is accurate or not? T: "Dua et bana yakın degilsin yoksa sana bu lafları yediriridim" E: "Pray to God that if you aren´t close to me, otherwise I would feed those words to you too." The context: X sent Y a hateful words, and the sentence in question is Y´s response. Thanks in advance, ~Scott  No "if". Here "close" means "near"   Edited (3/15/2013) by gokuyum Edited (3/15/2013) by gokuyum tunci and Scott88 liked this message

Thread: T to E one sentence please .

1857.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Mar 2013 Fri 07:14 am   Quoting nifrtity     Tanrıdanda izni alınmış bir aşktı bendeki   It was a permission taken love I have from God.   Note: I hope my translation is not weird as much as this sentence Edited (3/15/2013) by gokuyum nifrtity and basima liked this message

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1858.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Mar 2013 Thu 05:22 am   Quoting nifrtity     bırakmak degil mesele Leaving is not the issue.   nifrtity liked this message

Thread: English to Turkish - Short

1859.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Mar 2013 Thu 05:20 am   Quoting irishrose Hello,   Seeking Turkish translations for several phrases please, At home in the world (what I´m trying to say is, "I´m at home in whatever part of the world I´m living in at the moment") Cultural Exchange 101 Cross-cultural musings   Thank you!       You can say: Ben her yerde evimdeyim. I am at home in everywhere       Edited (3/14/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Quarter Finals

1860.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Mar 2013 Thu 05:16 am   Quoting caliptrix Kuralar ne zaman çekiliyor?   kura çekmek   Çeyrekten sonrasını görebilecek mi Allah´ım bu gözler? O God will these eyes be able to see next after quarter final?

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1861.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Mar 2013 Wed 01:33 pm   Quoting archinia Allah´ım, Kimseyi sevdiği ile imtihan etme... şimdi orda olmak vardı Oh God, dont test anyone with who he loves. It would be nice to be there Note: God can test your faith with someone you love. To pass the test even something costs you your beloved, you should be loyal to God.   Edited (3/13/2013) by gokuyum Edited (3/13/2013) by gokuyum Edited (3/14/2013) by gokuyum Edited (3/14/2013) by gokuyum basima, nemanjasrb, archinia, tunci and mikex liked this message

Thread: The oldest airlines of the world !

1862.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Mar 2013 Wed 01:50 am   Quoting nevbahar ben de gidiyorum.. beni özleyin anacım..   Gitmeden önce bir gül yüzünü göreydik

Thread: The oldest airlines of the world !

1863.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Mar 2013 Wed 01:20 am Ben gidip gidip geri geliyorum

Thread: Galatasaray´a başarılar bu gece !

1864.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Mar 2013 Wed 12:37 am   Quoting tunci   Perşembe gecesi de Fenerbahçe´den aynı başarıyı bekliyoruz. ! Benim bir beklentim yok

Thread: The words you have learned today.

1865.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Mar 2013 Tue 07:42 am Çok yaşa : Live long Sen de gör: Witness it you too   This is so cute nevbahar liked this message

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1866.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Mar 2013 Tue 07:25 am   Quoting Scott88 Hi, Firstly, thanks for all who helped me undewrstand some informal Turkish sentences. Could you please translate these short sentences for, I didn´t grasp the meaning even that the words are simple (It is from a folk story):  "Cogunun anlamadigini anladigin icin bana hava yapma". Dont show off becuse you understand what most dont understand "gozumun onunde yine sildiririm her seyi. I can make you clean everything again in front of my eyes. Yaparim bilirsin." You know I can. Thanks in advance, ~Scott         Scott88 liked this message

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1867.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Mar 2013 Tue 07:20 am   Quoting nifrtity     görücü usulu evlilik bu kadar olur evet evlenip ayrılmam sende ne gibi düşünce yarattı   görücü usulü evlilik means  a marriage arranged between two strangers by someone.   An arranged marriage was meant to fail. What do you think about my getting married and getting divorced?   nifrtity liked this message

Thread: Turkish to English Please

1868.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Mar 2013 Tue 07:12 am   Quoting ümitli Please translate this song (Gidersen, by Cüneyt Tek). It would be much appreciated!   Gidersen bu gun bu evden Bu can bu hayat düşer gözümden Ben sana deli divane aşığım   If you leave this house today This soul, this life will fall out of favor I love you crazy   Canıma yapışmışken bu deli hasretin Ben sensiz sevgisiz söyle yar nasıl edeyim   When your crazy longing adheres to my soul Tell me how shall I do without you beloved.   Üzersem birgün kıyarsam Verdiğim sözden cayarsam Alsın bu canı Allahım razıyım.   If I upset you, if I harm you If I dont keep my promise May God take my soul, I consent.   Aşkım sensiz yaşayamam taşıyamam bu canı Son darbe tek kurşunla bitiririm acımı   My love I can´t live without you, I cant carry this soul By last blow, by one bullet I will end my suffering.     basima liked this message

Thread: A poem written for Cemal Sureyya by Ulku Tamer

1869.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Mar 2013 Mon 08:14 am I dont even want to think about how were the women v.1.0.

Thread: Organ mafia - Myth or true?

1870.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Mar 2013 Mon 08:08 am I want to sell my brain. It only makes me unhappy ümitli liked this message

Thread: Some Medical Terms in Turkish

1871.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Mar 2013 Mon 08:05 am   Quoting mom4maddi  one day i will be good at Turkish i hope and i pray     Pray for that for some Turks too please.

Thread: Complex Sentence Structure - Need Help

1872.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Mar 2013 Mon 08:03 am   Quoting ümitli   I´ll get there eventually. The repetition does help. I have learned that way from his mother since she doesn´t speak English. I remember very well what "Gelinim! Türkçe öğren! Türkiye´ye gel!" means as it´s been repeated again and again to me. Charades is useful too.   Be hopeful   ümitli liked this message

Thread: Some idiomatic phrases

1873.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Mar 2013 Mon 07:55 am   Quoting ikicihan     i think there is a logical connection in this expression. pamuk eller means hands as soft as cotton. people who dont have too much money tend to work on hard works and their hands are not soft enough compared to people who have more money. so you request money from cotton handed people! i see an ironic joke here.   That is a very logical explanation. Thanks.

Thread: Translation lutfen :)

1874.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Mar 2013 Sun 11:26 pm Don´t trust mines  ikicihan liked this message

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1875.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Mar 2013 Sun 09:44 am   Quoting Scott88 Thank you so much. I got the idea behind using "ise".  excellent explanation by the way     The idea behind it is to confuse foreigners. harp00n liked this message

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1876.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Mar 2013 Sun 09:42 am   Quoting nemanjasrb Be yourself.   I wonder if anyone has ever said this to a serial killer Edited (3/10/2013) by gokuyum nemanjasrb liked this message

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1877.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Mar 2013 Sun 09:40 am Bugün başına öyle bir top gelsin ki gol olsun. Facebook´a yakışır   Edited (3/10/2013) by gokuyum nevbahar and ahmet_a1b2 liked this message

Thread: Complex Sentence Structure - Need Help

1878.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Mar 2013 Sun 09:38 am Even babies learn Turkish. What is the big deal?  nemanjasrb and caliptrix liked this message

Thread: Some idiomatic phrases

1879.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Mar 2013 Sun 09:34 am Pamuk eller cebe  literaly means "cotton hands to the pocket".   Someone can say this to you when you have to give money for something.   Note1: I dont know why we say cotton hands. Maybe there is a connection between having soft hands and being stingy .  Note2: By the way my hands are really soft but I am not stingy. Or am I?    Edited (3/10/2013) by gokuyum mom4maddi and tunci liked this message

Thread: Organ mafia - Myth or true?

1880.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Mar 2013 Sun 09:20 am Not a good way to lose weight. emjay and yeovil50 liked this message

Thread: Translation lutfen :)

1881.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Mar 2013 Sat 01:35 am   Quoting Faruk     Translators are on a very long holiday You never know when they´re back   Here´s the translation:   1. ...... Özgür dünyanın ruhları ve bedenleri prangalı canlarımızı, bir kuru ekmek karşılığı gönüllü nöbetçilerimizi beslemek için Keçiören Bağlum Bağlar hayvan besleme etkinliğindeydik bu pazar.   1. Last Sunday we were at Keçiören Bağlum Bağlar animal feeding event to feed our friends of this free world whose souls and bodies are shackled, our volunteer guards in exchange of a dry bread.   .....Şırıngalarıyla, zehirli etleriyle ölüm kusan, yaşam haklarının sadece kendilerine verildiğini sananlara karşı canlarını kurtarabilenlerdi onlar...   They were the survivors against those who spit death with their syringes and poisoned meats, who think that only they are given the right to live.   .....Bir ıslıkla bir bir dağlardan, bayırlardan etrafımıza toplanan, gözlerinizin içine bakan canlar bugün besleneceklerdi..Ya yarın?Büyük bir telaş vardı hepsinde. Sabırsızlıkla bakıyordu hepsi gözlerinize.Kuru ekmekleri kapışan, ciğerli makarnaları çabucak tüketen, kemikleri havada kapan, kuru mamalara saldıran sevimli can dostlarıydı köpeklerimiz...   Those friends would be feeded today, who gather around us with one whistle one by one from hills and slopes, and look into our eyes. What about tomorrow? They all had rush. They were looking into our eyes impatiently. They were our dear friendly dogs who snatch dry breads, who eat pastas with liver fastly, who catch bones on air, who attack dog food.   ....Yer yer manzara korkunçtu. Kimileri haftalarca parçalanmış bedenlerinin kaldırılmasını bekliyordu.Etrafında açlıktan ölü bedenleri yiyen mini mini yavrular...Belki de anneleriydi o, kim bilir..Kimileri çalı altına gizlediği yeni doğan yavrularını, yağabilecek yağmurdan,esen kuru dağ rüzgarından nasıl koruyacağını bilmeden, kayıtsızca bakıyordu gözlerinize...   In some places, the scene was terrible. Some were waiting their broken bodies to be removed. There were small puppies around eating dead bodies because of starvation. Maybe it was their mother, who knows? Some were looking at our eyes absently in bushes, without knowing how to protect their new-born puppies from rain, and dry mountain wind.   ....Okuduklarımdan, dinlediklerimden daha etkileyiciydi bu yaşadıklarım.Çok şey öğrendim bugün.Yıllarca dövüştürülmüş, yaşlanınca atılmış saldırır diye korktuğumuz pitbull yumuşaklığını öğrendim.Her gün facebook sayfalarında sevimli resimlerini paylaştığımız ´Seviyoruz.´ demenin yetersizliğini ve anlamsızlığını öğrendim.Evlerinde süs köpeklerinin kan sayımına kadar yaptıran; fakat dışarıdakilere duyarsız kalan kesimin varlığını öğrendim.Ve barınaklar dururken petshoplardan hayvan satın almanın hayvanseverlik olmadığını fark ettim...   These experiences were more effective than what I read and heard. I learned so many things today. I learned softness of pitbull that we´re afraid if they attack, who were caused to fiht, then left when become old. I learned that it wasn´t enough and was meningless to share cute pictures on facebook by saying "We love" everyday. I learned that there are people who do even blood count of their house dogs but who are insensible to street dogs. And I realized that buying animals from petshops is not being animal lover when there are shelters already.   ....Sevginin emek olduğunu ....Sevginin eylem olduğunu ....Ve onlar için büyük emek veren sevgili hayvan dostları Oktay Talu ve Murat Demir ve yüreği büyük genç dostum Burak´ın varlığını öğrendim.Ve onlara destek verilmesi gerektiğini öğrendim.Bu gönüllü hayvan dostlarına emekleri için çok teşekkür ediyorum..   I learned that love is effort, I learned that love is action, And I learned the existance of dear animal lovers Oktay Tulu and Murat Demir who are doing great efforts, and my big-hearted young friend Burak. And I learned that it´s needed to support them. I thank them very much to those volunteer animal lovers for their efforts.   2. .........Güldallı basmalar gibi renk renk, kır çiçekleri kadar çeşit çeşit öykülerimiz...Yer yer bir mücevher titizliğiyle koruyup yer yer derinlere iteleyip günışığından sakınıp gecenin koynunda beslenen öykülerimiz...Her birinin kahramanıyız bir parça...Okuduğumuz romanlarda izlediğimiz oyunlarda biz varız..İrkiliriz ancak gözümüzden bir damla yaş tenimize değdiğinde..Yoruluruz ancak küçük dünyamızı seyre daldığımızda...Ve kar taneleri birbirine benzemez .Ve kar taneleri yağmakla tükenmez...........   2. Our stories are colourful like rose branched garments, and wild flowers. Our stories that sometimes are saved meticulously like jewelry, sometimes are pushed deep to prevent from sunlight and fed in the middle of night. We are partly heroes of each of them. We are there, in our novels that we read, in plays that we watch. We startle but only when a tear from our eye touch our body... We get tired but only when we dream our little world... And snow flakes are not look alike. And snow flakes do not run out by snowing.   3. .....Dünyaya gelen her canlının bir toz zerresi kadar dahi olsa bıraktığı izler vardır evrende...Mutlaka güzel bir özelliğin bir iz bırakır diğerinde.O iz, birinden diğerine koşar. Gizlenir ya da hiç umulmadık bir zamanda çıkar günışığına, yok olmaz...Düşünürsek eğer bir hiç olarak dünyaya gelen insanın çeperi etkilenmelerin bileşiminden oluşur ve bir birey olma yolculuğuna çıkar...Bir çaresizin elinden tuttuğumuzda ya da bir hayvanın başını okşadığımızda karşımızdakine verdiğimiz ileti onun birey olmasına zerre kadar da olsa bir katkıdır.Örnekler çoğaltılabilir.Kısaca senden çok şey kalır geriye...   3. Every born creature has traces in this universe even it´s the size of a piece of dust. A good quality of yours would certainly leave a trace on another. That trace runs from one to another. It hides or appears to sunlight at the least expected time, it doesn´t disappear. If we think, a boundry of a human who came to this world for nothing is formed from interactions and starts the journey of becoming a person. When we hold hands of a desperate or when we pet an animal´s head, the message we give to the one in front of us is a contribution, even it´s a little bit, for them to become a person. Examples could be more. In short, it leaves so much of you behind.     That makes you our new saint Faruk. Halelujaa! basima, elenagabriela, ikicihan, Tatjana MK and tunci liked this message

Thread: [a] egelmek

1882.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Mar 2013 Fri 09:09 pm   Quoting tunci     Tam bir KPSS sorusu hocam. Gerçekten şimdi merak ettim nasıl deniyor ingilizcede  bu şey, bilen varsa hayrına söylesin. Benim matematik sucks..      Benim de kpss sucks hocam

Thread: Translation lutfen :)

1883.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Mar 2013 Fri 07:24 pm   Quoting tunci     Clever Gökuyum !  Btw where is our translators ???  Are they all are on strike ?    They died of boredom elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: Some idiomatic phrases

1884.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Mar 2013 Fri 07:22 pm   Quoting AlphaF suyu  ısınmak ---> literally " boiling of one´s water" if used as an idiom, "the hot water" here refers to the water used to bathe a dead Moslem, in accordance Islamic burial rituals......hence implies that person´s death is close After I die, I am okay with cold water too.   elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: English to Turkish. Short!

1885.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Mar 2013 Fri 07:20 pm   Quoting honeycheerios I would appreciate if you did not show this message to anyone else but xnamex.   Bu mesajı xnamex´ten başka kimseye göstermezsen memnun olurum. nessah liked this message

Thread: human trafficing in Turkey and a video

1886.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Mar 2013 Fri 07:18 pm   Quoting alameda In this case it is very relevent, as had the killer not been a "fellow" Armenian it well could have spawned yet more ethnic tension....and been used as yet another "example" of mad murderous Turks going after innocent Armenians."      Alpha would never let such a thing happen.   thehandsom liked this message

Thread: [a] egelmek

1887.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Mar 2013 Fri 07:16 pm   Quoting tunci     Fractional adjectives [Kesir Sayı Sıfatları]   In Turkish , we call these type of adjectives as " fractional number adjectives" Fractional numbers are like 1/3, 4/6 , 3/9 ..etc   A written-out fractions are like  dörtte bir  [çeyrek] ---> a quarter [one fourth] and functions as adjectives when it modifies a noun ; Payımıza dörtte bir  ekmek düşüyor. ----> One quarter bread is for each. Burada yarım saattir  bekliyorum. ---> I have been waiting  here for half an hour. some others ;  iki   buçuk  ---> two and half  yüzde  bir   ---- > one in a hundred üçte  bir    ----  >  one  third etc…   Hocam kök ikide bir nasıl çevriliyor?

Thread: Translation lutfen :)

1888.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Mar 2013 Fri 07:12 pm   Quoting Tatjana MK Please someone to translate me this texts, or at least their meaning.   Thank you. 1. ...... Özgür dünyanın ruhları ve bedenleri prangalı canlarımızı, bir kuru ekmek karşılığı gönüllü nöbetçilerimizi beslemek için Keçiören Bağlum Bağlar hayvan besleme etkinliğindeydik bu pazar. We were in the  feeding animals activity of Keçiören Bağlum Bağlar this monday in order to feed our beloveds whose souls and bodies are chained in this free world; our voluntary guards in return of a dry bread. I am sure it is not too long now and tunci will translate the rest  Edited (3/8/2013) by gokuyum Edited (3/8/2013) by gokuyum sashk, elenagabriela and tunci liked this message

Thread: Happy women´s day..

1889.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Mar 2013 Fri 07:03 pm   Quoting alameda Ummm....AlphaF....those red lips are not real, they are red from lipstick. Kiss them and they will be on the kisser´s lips. check it out....by clicking here     I am sure Alpha wouldn´t complain about that

Thread: English - Turkish. Very important!!

1890.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Mar 2013 Thu 10:16 am   Quoting sashk     I think it´s more about the brilliant teachers Thanks. This made me remeber good old days. Never give up studying   basima and sashk liked this message

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1891.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Mar 2013 Thu 10:14 am   Quoting Milacik Hi guys, can someone help me with this:   Kadınlar muhteşem canlılar. Düşünün şimdi, o küçücük fırça ile ojeyi sürüyor ama sıçratmıyorlar. O saçlarla banyoda verdikleri mücadele en az 30 dakika. Hala nasıl yaptıklarını bilmiyorum fakat o incecik topuklularla kilometrelerce yürüyebiliyorlar. Babalarından para sızdırmaktaki başarılarına hala akıl erdiremedik ( Biz babalarımızın ceplerinden çalardık ). Biz erkekler yaptığında itici görünen bir çok davranış onlar yaptığında hoş görünüyor. Bütün bunların yanında bir de aşık olabiliyorlar, daha da şaşırtıcı olan.. Onlara deli gibi aşık adamları peşlerinde süründürüp kendilerinin burnunu boka sokan erkeklere köpek olabiliyorlar. Kadınlar demiştim, muhteşem canlılar. Erkekleri doğuruyorlar, adamları öldürüyorlar... Women are wonderful creatures. Think about this: they polish their nails with that small brush but they dont splash. Their struggle with their hairs last at least 30 minutes in bathroom. I still dont know how they do it but they walk kilometers by those thin heels. We still have no idea about how they so easily get money from their fathers. (We would steal it from our fathers´ pockets). The things that look bad when a man does look good when they do them. And besides all of these, the most suprising thing is they can fall in love. They make men who love them suffer but they behave like a a dog for men who make life miserable for them. I said that women were amazing creatures. They give birth to boys, they kill the men.   Thank u very much     Edited (3/7/2013) by gokuyum Milacik and tunci liked this message

Thread: English - Turkish. Very important!!

1892.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Mar 2013 Thu 09:56 am   Quoting sashk Herkes burada beni tanıyor bu yüzden burada konuşmamız mümkün değil. Eğer istersen telefon numarını bana verebilirsin. Böyle daha kolay. Eğer benimle konuşmak istemezsen dediğimi unut.       Wow that is a really brilliant translation. I am amazed sashk.

Thread: plz help me :(

1893.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Mar 2013 Thu 09:53 am   Quoting Henry   Why does your doctor want you to write about yourself in Turkish? I am curious    TSD? Turkish Speaking Disorder. It is so common nowadays   nevbahar, caliptrix, Henry and elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: turk 2 english please

1894.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Mar 2013 Wed 12:19 am   Quoting britturk   arakadas boylemi olur dusmusuz diyoruz tamam diyosun sabret wizen dolana kadar wizem bitti giris cikisa gittim sana ulasamiyorum ayip size wallahi acaba sen benim durumumda olsan ben sana ayni sekilde davranirmiyim ama bu hayati sewiyirum neden biliyonmu her gun yeni biseye sahid oluyorum bana yeni seyler ogretiyor dusenin dostu olmaz............ Must a friend be like this? I say I am desperate. You say "okay, be patient until your visa ends". My visa had ended and I went to the exit(?). But I still couldn´t contact with you. Shame on you. If you were in my shoes, would I behave like you? But I love this life. Do you know why? Everyday I witness a new thing and it teaches me new things. A person in need has no friend....     sakin dusme yanarsin.. Don´t ever be in need, you will only suffer. Bugün     yazacak cevabin yok degilmi? You don´t have any answer, right       basima, britturk and lana- liked this message

Thread: E to T please

1895.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Mar 2013 Wed 12:11 am   Quoting mom4maddi how do i say?....... i understand. i am honest and respectful, so i will do as you ask. if i were to ask this of you, i would wish the same respect. life, whatever comes it comes. still, i pray allah (for me god) gives you many blessings in life.   Anlıyorum. Ben dürüst ve saygılıyım. Bu yüzden istediğiniz gibi yapacağım. Eğer bunu sizden ben isteseydim, ben de aynı saygıyı beklerdim. Hayat bu, başa ne gelecekse geliyor. Ama hala Allah´a (bana göre tanrıya) size hayatta birçok lütuf vermesi için dua ediyorum. nessah liked this message

Thread: English to Turkish,very important

1896.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Mar 2013 Sun 04:27 am   Quoting nemanjasrb Ellerine sağlık Yusuf..  Çook sağol!  These are last 2 paragraphs,thank´s anyway. Paragraph VII Aqua Club Pool complex with water attractions for children and adults.Its area is 2500 m2 and it can accommodate more than 1.200 visitors.  It´s located in the immediate vicinity of the lake,promenade and catering object. Aqua Club Çocuklar ve yetişkinler için su atraksiyonlarına sahip havuz kompleksi. 2500 m2 alana sahiptir ve 1200 den fazla ziyaretçiyi alabilir. Hemen gölün, gezinti yerinin ve yiyecek ve içecek ikramlarının yapıldığı yerin civarındadır. Paragraph VIII Tennis Club To S.L.R. guests are available four tennis courts throughout the year. Courts are illuminated by reflectors.   Tenis Klübü   Yıl boyunca tenis kortları S.L.R misafirleri için açıktır. Kortlar reflektörlerle aydınlatılır. Follow us on: (facebook,twitter) ------------------------------ Bizi takip edin: (facebook, twitter) English corrections are welcome       nemanjasrb liked this message

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1897.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Mar 2013 Sun 01:20 am   Quoting nessah ahhh i wanted to translate that, it was too easy     You are always late nessah liked this message

Thread: English to Turkish,very important

1898.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Mar 2013 Sat 08:34 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb Thank you so much , Yusuf!! Paragraph IV: Restaurant S...... Located adjacent(directly??) to the coast of the xx Lake,  S.... Restaurant offers excellent cuisine.In the view from the terrace or in the warm atmosphere of the hall * with the fireplace you´re going to enjoy equal as in specialties of local cuisine. Restoran S... xx gölünün sahiline bitişik konuşlanmış, S.... Restoranı mükemmel bir mutfak sunuyor. Terasın harika manzarasında ya da şömineli salonun sıcak atmosferinde yerli mutfağın spesiyalitelerinin aynı oranda zevkini çıkaracaksınız. Paragraph V: S. S S.S. ship is intended for tourist visits along the Danube and in the environment of the S. Lake.Capacity of the ship is 300 people(open and closed part).   S:S S:S gemisi Danube boyunca seyahat eden ve S. Gölü etrafında bulunan turistler için amaçlandı. Geminin kapasitesi 300 kişidir( açık ve kapalı alan) Paragraph VI: S.Lake Modern mooring equipped to accept 32 vessels. S. Gölü 32 tekneyi kabul edecek şekilde donatılmış modern demir atma yeri.     Edited (3/2/2013) by gokuyum nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: what does this means

1899.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Mar 2013 Sat 08:18 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb     At least you can shout your name,what about those who can´t do that. My translation attempt. But it doesn´t make sense to me. Wait for native.      sanja87 liked this message

Thread: English to Turkish,very important

1900.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Mar 2013 Sat 01:39 am Hedonist can be translated as "zevk düşkünü" nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: English to Turkish,very important

1901.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Mar 2013 Sat 01:31 am   Quoting nemanjasrb Thank you so much Ahmet. Here is II paragraph: Conference rooms - For the business meeting,business presentations or promotions,available are modern conference rooms with the (most) modern equipment. Konferans odaları: İş görüşmeleri, iş sunumları ve promosyonları için en modern ekipmanlarla donatılmış modern konferans odaları vardır. III paragraph: Spa zone: - Offered in hotel is also: ´´Health zone(Zone of the heatlh) dr ....´´,modernly equipped fitness and wellness center. Spa alanı: Otelde ayrıca:  "Sağlık Alanı" , dr..... ,modern ekipmanlarla donatılmış fitness ve wellnes(?) merkezi sunulmuştur.     Edited (3/2/2013) by gokuyum nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: English to Turkish (A bit longer :P) really important :$

1902.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Mar 2013 Fri 04:05 am   Quoting nemanjasrb     so what did you got?   He got a red ribbon. nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: how do i say this in turkish

1903.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Mar 2013 Fri 04:04 am   Quoting nessah thanks syk..!!   What about me? nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: English - Turkish

1904.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Mar 2013 Fri 03:47 am   Quoting nemanjasrb     Okuduğunu kimseye söylemeyeceğine söz ver,ne de arkadaşlarına ne de burada diğer çalışan diğer garsonlara. Dürüst olmak gerekirse,ben gerçekten cesur bir insan değilim,ama ben artık buna dayanamıyorum, o yüzden bunu sana söylemem lazım. Sana bakıyorum ve bana baktığını görüyorum.Ne hissettiğimle çok zor savaşmaya çok çalıştım ama ben sana aşığım. MY TRY .. wait for corrections..     Edited (3/1/2013) by gokuyum basima and nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: e2t pls

1905.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Mar 2013 Fri 03:44 am   Quoting nessah happy birthday my dearest brother, may you live a long and happy life like you deserve. i wish i could give you many presents. take very good care of you.   Doğum günün kutlu olsun çok sevgili kardeşim. Hakettiğin gibi uzun ve mutlu bir hayat yaşayasın. Keşke sana birçok hediyeler verebilsem. Kendine çok iyi bak.   basima and nessah liked this message

Thread: how do i say this in turkish

1906.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Feb 2013 Thu 06:01 pm   Quoting SyK112     Gerçekten(cidden, sahi mi)? Tanıştığımıza memnun oldum(sevindim), sanki herkes Ömer´in akrabası(hısmı ) gibi duruyor. Ben hariç     SyK112 liked this message

Thread: turkish to english please

1907.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Feb 2013 Wed 01:18 am   Quoting elenagabriela I have one question from natives, please what can be beni tat something like try me   beni tat means "taste me". But I dont think he wants to expresses this. Something is missing in the message. Edited (2/27/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: English to Turkish (A bit longer :P) really important :$

1908.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Feb 2013 Wed 01:15 am   Quoting nemanjasrb Hi,my name is Ibrahim. I´m 17 years old and i am living in Zenica,Bosnia and Herzegovina.I am student,visiting the 2nd Gynmasium.This is the place where i learn Turkish. Usually,I stand up at 5 o´clock,so I can take a shower and eat,this takes about 1 hour. After that I dress up and get my Hair done.I leave my house at 6.40 so i can drink a coffee somewhere before school starts at 7.30. After school,at 12.40,i visit a Cafe with my Girlfriend or my Friends again,later i go to the GYM for some workout.I arrive at home at about 3 o´clock.I eat and than i just do things I want like.Watching TV,playing some Video Games or just lay in my bed and listen to some music.Sometimes i go out again at evenings,but i mostly stay at home.At the evenings I´m mostly on facebook while I do other things beside that,homework or studying for Turkish for example. I don´t have a fixed bedtime because I´m living on the 2nd floor all alone.I just go sleep whenever i like.Sometimes I don´t even sleep just because i can´t...At 5 o´clock,everything begins from the start...   Merhaba,benim adım İbrahim.On yedi yaşındayım ve Zenica´da(Bosna-Hersek´te) yaşıyorum. Öğrenciyim,ikinci lisede okuyorum.Bu Türkçe öğrendiğim yerdir. Genellikle saat beşte kalkarım,o yüzden duş alıp yiyebilirim. Bu bir saat sürer. Sonra giyinip süslenip saçımı hallederim.Saat yediye yirmi varken evden çıkarım,o yüzden okul başlamadan önce(saat yedi buçukken) bir yerde kahve içebiliyorum.Okuldan sonra,saat bire yirmi varken,kafeyi kız arkadaşımla veya arkadaşlarımla yine ziyaret ederim,sonra spor salonuna bir antreman için giderim.Evime saat üçte geri gelirim.Yemek yerim ve sevdiğim şeyleri yaparım. TV izlerim,bazı video oyunlarını oynarım veya sadece yatakta yatarım ve müzik dinlierim.Bazen akşamları yine çıkarım ama çoğunlukla evde kalırım.Çoğunlukla başka bir şeyleri yaparken (ev ödevini veya Türkçe öğrenmeyi) Facebook´ta olurum.Benim sabit yatma zamanım yok,çünkü ikinci katta yaşıyorum,yapayalnız.Uyumaya her ne zaman istediğim zaman giderim.Bazen bile uyumam bile,çünkü uyuyamam.Saat beşte herşey baştan başlıyor. MY TRY, I wanted to make it easier for native speaker. There is a lot of mistakes probably..   Great nemanja. nemanjasrb and elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: Two words please

1909.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Feb 2013 Mon 12:21 am iyi olursun: You will be fine.

Thread: E to T

1910.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Feb 2013 Fri 10:03 pm Nessah is the most beautiful and smartest girl in the world and she is my best friend.I am really happy to know her. nessah liked this message

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1911.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Feb 2013 Fri 09:42 pm   Quoting elenagabriela geçmiş olsun hocam   Thank you elena. elenagabriela liked this message

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1912.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Feb 2013 Fri 09:36 pm   Quoting nessah hahaha my turkish is getting better than your fluent turkish, how embarrassing     Don´t forget I am still sick and my brain still doesnt function properly

Thread: E to T

1913.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Feb 2013 Fri 09:34 pm   Quoting Bun4ld1m     Rica ederim, ne demek. O çok hızlı büyüyecek, umarım giysiler üzerine uyar. Amcan ikinizinde çok iyi olduğunuzu söyledi, bu güzel birşey. Uykusuz geceleriniz başlıyor, bol şans. This translation is correct.   basima liked this message

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1914.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Feb 2013 Fri 09:31 pm   Quoting nessah   this is wrong it means thank you for the baby gift LAB its not what u wanted to say right?       Nessah is right. İkicihan and I misinterpreted that sentence. basima liked this message

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1915.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Feb 2013 Fri 07:50 pm   Quoting LAB Thank you. Both translations look so different do they mean the same thing?  Turkish saying: Every man has his own way of eating yoghurt   mom4maddi and LAB liked this message

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1916.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Feb 2013 Fri 07:47 pm   Quoting LAB Please can someone help with this translation. I can understand most of it but im missing something. Hello how are you thank you very much for the baby´s gift .................. I kiss you take care    selam nasılsın? hediyelerin için çok ama çok teşekkür ederim çok beğendimm öpüyorum seni kendine iyi bak     I like them a lot   basima liked this message

Thread: eng to turk pls

1917.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Feb 2013 Fri 06:33 am   Quoting britturk I think it will be better for our relationship if we do not talk about money. para hakkında konuşmazsak sanırım ilişkimiz için daha iyi olur. You have made it clear that you will not introduce me to your parents until you are certain that we have a future. benimle bir gelecek kurmak konusunda emin olmadığın sürece beni ailenle tanıştırmayacağını açıkça belirtmiştin Therefore I think the same rule should apply regarding money. bence aynı kural para için de uygulanmalı. I did not want things to be this way I wanted us to be close and share everything. Unfortunately you did not allow this. işlerin böyle olmasını istemezdim. daha yakın olmak ve herşeyi paylaşmak isterdim. ama buna izin vermedin From now on we will be equals in this relationship.  bundan böyle bu ilişkide ikimiz eşit olacağız. I will only give as much as I receive and you should also do the same. ancak aldığım kadar vereceğim, sana da aynısını tavsiye ederim. Here is an artistic translation   Edited (2/22/2013) by gokuyum basima and elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: 3 children? Getting difficult to have

1918.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Feb 2013 Fri 06:13 am   Quoting AlphaF     Well, if he does not like it in France...He can always swim the channel accros   I am not a good swimmer but I can sink perfectly.

Thread: t-e lutfen

1919.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Feb 2013 Fri 06:11 am   Quoting mltm     You have made me miss you my dear, I miss your looks. Can I confess you that I am in love with you honey?   meh

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1920.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Feb 2013 Fri 06:06 am   Quoting mltm   insanlari sıcak ama...     Valla sen oraya gittikten sonra ılımışlar deniyor Edited (2/22/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: The Name of Istanbul

1921.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Feb 2013 Fri 06:04 am   Quoting ikicihan     it is said that when alexander the great captured afganistan area, this tradition passed from greeks/makedons (whoever the soldiers are) to that local area. origin is not much important but i am amazed when people comment like "muslims are like that..." etc over internet. Hadiths from Muhammad (pbuh) shows the islamic point of view. 1631. Ibn ´Abbas said, "The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, cursed effeminate men and masculine women." In one variant, "The Messenger of Allah cursed men who made themselves look like women and women who made themselves look like men." [al-Bukhari] 1632. Abu Hurayra said, "The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, cursed any man who wears women´s clothes and any woman who wears men´s clothes." [Abu Dawud] ... Source: Riyad as-Salihin by Imam Nawawi Here comes another discussion.

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1922.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Feb 2013 Fri 06:03 am , Edited (2/22/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: weather translation lutfen

1923.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Feb 2013 Thu 09:51 pm   Quoting Johnk When you are talking about temperatures how do you say minus, as in minus 2 degrees When you are talking about the weather in the past tense do you say" 20 derecedi or dereceydi" I have seen two different spellings of degrees and not sure which is right. -2 degrees: eksi iki derece   Right one is: dereceydi.   basima liked this message

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1924.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Feb 2013 Thu 09:49 pm   Quoting stumpy oh boy! no man wants to be a bear, well not a heterosexual one at least... a "bear" is a big hairy rugged gay man this might help explain the subculture: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_%28gay_culture%29     Lol. But they always eat the best pears Efi70 and ikicihan liked this message

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1925.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Feb 2013 Thu 09:26 pm   Quoting AlphaF   I want to be a bear now

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1926.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Feb 2013 Thu 09:22 pm   Quoting AlphaF     Sen Fransaya gitmiyormusun ?    Ne yapayım Fransa´nın soğuk havasında?  nemanjasrb liked this message

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1927.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Feb 2013 Thu 01:40 pm   Quoting AlphaF     Aramızda muhtemelen tarihçier de var, teologlar da...Her iki sınıfa da girmiyorsanız, konular da ağır geliyorsa, dışında kalabilirsiniz. Atatürk diktatör değildi. Anadoluya gectiğinde ilk işi bir millet meclisi toplamak üzere çalışmak olmuştur. Yaşamı boyunca, Başkumandanlık Meydan Muharebesi esnasında kısa bir dönem hariç, meclisi kısmen de olsa etkisiz ve yetkisiz kıldığı olmamıştır. Yobazlar ne derlerse desinler, Türk Kurtulus Savaşının gayet pragmatik Kurani temellere oturtulduğu da asla yadsınamaz. Bu konuda bilinen teologlardan Sn Yaşar Nuri Öztürk´ün bir kitabı var...henüz yasaklanmadıysa piyasada bulunabilir.     Yakında benim de konuyla ilgili bir kitabım çıkacak ladybakunin, elenagabriela, harp00n and nevbahar liked this message

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1928.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Feb 2013 Thu 12:09 pm I will carry it on my chest pocket. My heart is already broken.

Thread: this could affect my lovelife:) ... can you help translate

1929.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Feb 2013 Thu 12:00 pm   Quoting mltm   I am afraid that my advices can hurt you gokuyum...   Friends tell the bitter truth.

Thread: 3 children? Getting difficult to have

1930.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Feb 2013 Thu 11:59 am   Quoting mltm   you can keep it in your front gokuyum as you do not need to worry about your sperm counts as you already know that you will stay single all your life.  therefore, you are right, your priority should be the shape of your butt. (is not there a devil icon )     Thank you for the possitive attitude. I am sure you expect the same attitude from me too Edited (2/21/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: this could affect my lovelife:) ... can you help translate

1931.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Feb 2013 Thu 11:51 am   Quoting mltm How can you be sure that it has been posted for you if she posted it on a friend´s wall? don´t try to get clues over everything she posts, you can never be sure, on the contrary it can confuse you in a bad way. if you can meet her, try to see things first in her eyes, try to pass time with her and get close to her, and if you are brave enough, start talking about you like being around her etc. I have a really vivid imaginary love life too. What are your advices for me mltm?

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1932.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Feb 2013 Thu 11:47 am   Quoting ikicihan Cep telefonunu arka cepte taşıyın! Pantolonların ön cebinde taşınan telefonlar erkeklerin testislerine zarar veriyor! http://saglik.milliyet.com.tr/cep-telefonunu-arka-cepte-tasiyin-/erkeksagligi/haberdetay/29.04.2009/1088879/default.htm   shortly: Cell phones deform sperms, put it in your back pocket (or carry in a bag etc.)   What if it deforms my ass? ladybakunin liked this message

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1933.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Feb 2013 Thu 11:44 am   Quoting Indus2390 Osmanlı anıtları ile ilgilenen arkadaşlarıma   I want to say, "To/for my friends interested in Ottoman monuments"   Or Osmanlı kitbelerliyle ilgilenen arkadaşlarıma   Teşekkürler!   My opinion: Osmanlı abideleri ile ilgilenen arkadaşlarıma mltm liked this message

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1934.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Feb 2013 Thu 01:01 am Lets do a beauty contest on forum. Englishes versus Turks. May the most beautiful win  The prize will be a strawberry chewing gum.       Edited (2/21/2013) by gokuyum Edited (2/21/2013) by gokuyum Efi70, HaNNo and elenagabriela liked this message

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1935.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Feb 2013 Wed 09:16 pm   Quoting mltm What do you mean gokuyum? Do you mean that all fat, tanned, hairy men with a big moustache are bears??? This is judging a book by its cover.    I dont mean anything.

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1936.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Feb 2013 Wed 08:34 pm   Quoting elenagabriela love is like a match, you can won or you can be defeat (you can eat or you can be eaten literally here..) if you will remain toghether you will marry     my try berabere kalmak means "to tie with". Ex: Manchester United ties with Juventus. beraber kalmak means "to stay together".   basima and elenagabriela liked this message

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1937.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Feb 2013 Wed 08:29 pm   Quoting edraganov Thank you very much everyone!   Thank you mltm1 and mltm2 bod, ümitli, ikicihan, mltm, HaNNo and nemanjasrb liked this message

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1938.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Feb 2013 Wed 08:17 pm elenagabriela liked this message

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1939.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Feb 2013 Wed 04:11 am   Quoting Elisabeth  Just a reminder... 3. The official language of all forums is English with the following exceptions and details: 3.1. The language ´Teaching Turkish´ forum is Turkish only. 3.2. ´Language´ and ´Turkish Translation´ forums can have Turkish texts according the nature of these boards.       Elisabeth why dont you participate in making the new Turkish constitution?

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1940.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Feb 2013 Wed 04:09 am I dont like watching belly dancing men. Am I too old fashioned? elenagabriela and ikicihan liked this message

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1941.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Feb 2013 Wed 04:08 am   Quoting elenagabriela I think watching turkish movies even with subtitles is a bit hard; you have to listen the voices and at the same time to read and translate in your native...you need a very acute sense of hearing...I suggest you try to buy of borrow some turkish books - short stories, novels, magazines and read them...it is more easy and at the same time you can notice the phrase construction; after you have read 50-100 pages you can try to express your words in turkish..and of course, keep watching tv turkish series with your native subtitles and be very carefull at voices..the inflexion of voices, the stress..etc...and believe me..it works good luck Dont just watch them, feel them with your soul.   ShiraDest and elenagabriela liked this message

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1942.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Feb 2013 Wed 04:04 am   Quoting stumpy but is still seems that some men have to litterally be hit in the face with a cast iron frying pan to see the beauty of women    That would open the men´s third eye and close the two others stumpy liked this message

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1943.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Feb 2013 Wed 04:01 am   Quoting stumpy but compared to TC which is free and starting price at http://www.study-turkish.com/ is 350$   I could buy 75 books with that money elenagabriela liked this message

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1944.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Feb 2013 Tue 11:31 pm   Quoting thehandsom     Of course he was. I would not jump into the middle and scream about it but I would respect people who want to say that. Religion? of course it is a dogma too.  Same type of criticism is allowed for Mohammed/jesus/budha etc.  Actually the way you see the reactions from both groups to the criticism are showing the same sort of nature.    Halkı tarafından bu kadar sahiplenilmiş, halkı ile omuz birliği yaparak yurt topraklarını işgalcilerden kurtarmış, Türkiye´yi modernleştirme adına bu kadar çabalarda bulunmuş bir insan için şu an tamamen olumsuz bir anlama sahip olan diktatör kelimesinin kullanılmasını doğru bulmuyorum. Böyle bir kelimeyi Atatürk için kullanmak onu Hitler, Stalin, Mussoliniyle aynı kefeye koymaktır. Ama bu asla doğru değil. Kısaca ifade edeyim: yemezler    melissa_oz liked this message

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1945.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Feb 2013 Tue 10:48 pm Why are you all so romantic or am I too old ? Sandrina liked this message

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1946.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Feb 2013 Tue 10:45 pm   Quoting Sandrina when you find yourself cocooned in isolation and despair and cannot find your way out of  the darkness, remember that this is similar to the place where caterpillars go to grow their wings   Kendini yalnızlık ve umutsuzluk içinde kozalanmış bulduğunda ve karanlıktan dışarıya bir yol bulamadığında, hatırla ki orası tırtılların kanatlarının çıkması için gittiği yerin bir benzeridir. Sandrina liked this message

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1947.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Feb 2013 Tue 10:40 pm   Quoting alameda I have to agree with stumpy....Turkish ladies are among the most beautiful I´ve ever seen, and they are very diverse in their looks....but the one factor they have is beauty.        Ben güzeli nideyim, güzel benim olmadıkça.

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1948.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Feb 2013 Tue 10:39 pm   Quoting vona This reminds me a joke about two scientists who have to spend a night in a room in the house of a poor man. In the middle of the room there is a stove and under the stove are four big stones serving as four long legs that the stove is nearly one meter above the floor. The scientists begin to think to find out the reason of which should be for about the strange position of the stove. One says, " I think it is probably because of obtaining the most effective circulation of heated air", and the other says, "I think it is likely because of obtaining sustainable burning progress." As they disagree with each other they think the best is asking it to the poor man. The poor man says," it is simply because of lack of stovepipe."   Is there a joke about valves too? Or have I told it in the past?

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1949.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Feb 2013 Tue 10:30 pm   Quoting Orhan HOCA Our website is being updated day by day and presenting great variety of online Turkish Language learning materials. I hope and believe Turkish Language learners will make use of. Pls contact Orhan Hoca if you have further assistance or questions about Turkish Language Learning or our services and products.   Turkish Language Home : http://www.study-turkish.com       Good for you. We are still dealing with 2 years old problems here   Edited (2/19/2013) by gokuyum Edited (2/19/2013) by gokuyum nemanjasrb liked this message

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1950.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Feb 2013 Tue 10:26 pm I could write a great constitution if you allowed me Edited (2/19/2013) by gokuyum

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1951.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Feb 2013 Tue 10:24 pm Ignorance is bliss ladybakunin liked this message

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1952.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Feb 2013 Tue 10:23 pm   Quoting nifrtity   insan geride bıraktıklarını özler, sahip olduğundan sıkılır, ulaşamadığına tutulur.. Ve ulaşılmaz olan hep aşk olur!.     People miss what they leave behind. They get bored of what they have. They desire what they can´t reach. And this unreachable thing is always love. Edited (2/19/2013) by gokuyum ümitli, nifrtity and nemanjasrb liked this message

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1953.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Feb 2013 Tue 10:20 pm A long polemic without me at the end. Now I can die happily

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1954.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Feb 2013 Tue 05:42 pm   Quoting vona     I was there to perform a funeral prayer for a dead person who was the father of a friend of mine and I thought, instead of idling about in the mosque yard, it would be better to join the "cemaat" for the noon prayer and so did I In the mosque, behind the shia imam, I found myself a bit clumsy but it was okay   That means you are a man. How disappointing nevbahar liked this message

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1955.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Feb 2013 Tue 05:05 pm   Quoting vona     Praying in this mosque behind a shia imam was an interesting experiment     So you did it? What kind of a dilemma is this?

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1956.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Feb 2013 Mon 01:04 pm   Quoting elenagabriela Merhaba arkadaşlar I have a question about curent speaking - whe you use the verb ummak, which one is suitable: - to wish or - to hope for example, when you say umarım hep mutlu olursun you wish someone to be happy or you hope that someone will be happy teşekkürler   ummak - to hope dilemek - to wish elenagabriela liked this message

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1957.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Feb 2013 Sun 10:08 pm   Quoting odelvis i know the simple answer, it is just realy difficult to find beatiful turkish girl, 95 % ot them are ugly, i am male and i´ve been in turkey twice , 95 % of the girls are realy ugly. the goodlookin girls are usualy form england, russia, france or bulgaria. turkish boys are ugly as well, but the holiday girls have no choise - being with turkish guy or being alone, because there are not too many boys from another countries.   You even have statistics. İmpressing Edited (2/17/2013) by gokuyum ikicihan and ümitli liked this message

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1958.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Feb 2013 Sun 10:03 pm   Quoting melissa_oz   Müziği haram saymanın mantığı olamaz. Müzik ruhu besler, temel bir ihtiyactır. Tıpkı yeme, içme, üreme gibi  ruhumuz da müziğe ihtiyaç duyar. Temel ihtiyacları yasaklamak insan haklarına aykırıdır. Islam da insan haklarını maksimum korumuş bir din olduğundan müziğe de yasak koymamıştır.   There is no logic in bannig music. Music feeds the soul. Therefore, it is one of the essential need of humankind. Our soul need music just like we need eating,drinking and multiplying.  Banning essential needs breach the human rights. Since Islam is the religon that secured the Human Rights at maximum level, it never banned the music.      Melissa sen çok kesin konuşuyorsun. Müziği yasaklayan hadisler var, resimi ve şiiri yasaklayanlar olduğu gibi. Önemli olan bu hadislerin nasıl yorumlanması gerektiğidir. Bu yasakları o dönemin şartları mı gerektirmiştir, yoksa bunlar her zaman için geçerli yasaklar mıdır veyahut başka faktörler de göz önüne alınmalı mıdır gibi sorulara yanıt vermek gerekir.

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1959.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Feb 2013 Sun 09:46 pm   Quoting Laleler şapkadan maksat önde çıkıntı vermesidir, kep öne doğru takılırsa şapka olur demiştim. secdeyi engellediğinden kasten takılması küfür alameti sayılmıştır. zorla takılırsa askeriyede takılması gibi küfür olmaz. şapka takan yahudiye benzer. kişi benzediği kavimdendir. yahudilikte şapka dini bir kıyafettir. ağlama duvarında muhakkak şapka takarlar yoksa başlarını duvara vuracaklar dimi. ha derseniz ki diğer günahları işlemek neden kafir yapmıyor çünkü onlarda nefsani bir istek var, kişi nefsine yenilir günah işler ama kafir alametini eğer kalpte küfür varsa yapmak ister. mesela bir müslüman eğer haç takmak canım istiyor takayım diyorsa kalbinde küfür vardır hiristiyanlara benzemek istiyordur.bunun nefsani istekle bir alakası yok tamamen iman meselesi. aynı şekilde rukuyu engelleyen ve kafirlerin din adamlarının beline bağladıkları zünnar da küfür alameti sayılmıştır. kimse inanmak zorunda değil. Din sizin söylediğiniz kurallara uymaz sen dinin kurallarına uyarsın ya da uymazsın. dinin kuralı aslında böyle diyemezsin. kendini güya günahkar göstermemek için harama helal demekle günahtan kaçarken küfre düşersin. şapka takmak da günahtan öte küfürdür zaten. Kişi de sevdiği ile beraberdir diktatörünüzle yani beraber olursunuz ahirette. Ayıp.     Edited (2/17/2013) by gokuyum vona liked this message

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1960.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Feb 2013 Sun 09:44 pm   Quoting jennvehk Can someone please translate this to turkish:   I can´t stop smiling because of you. I think you all time You really make me so happy every day.   Tesekkuler Senin yüzünden gülümsemeden duramıyorum. Her zaman seni düşünüyorum. Beni her gün çok mutlu ediyorsun.   mltm and basima liked this message

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1961.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Feb 2013 Sun 09:42 pm Alimler de keyiflerine göre konuşmuyor. Onlar da Kur´an ve hadislere dayanarak fikir belirtiyorlar. Ama bu fikir belirtme işi yorumlamaya da dayalı olduğundan bazen birbirleriyle uyuşamıyorlar. Kimileri müziği toptan haram sayarken, Mevlana gibi ünlü din adamı ve mutasavvıflar ney ve diğer enstrümanlar eşliğinde ibadet dahi yapıyorlar. Müzikle uğraşmış birçok din adamı olduğunu da unutmayın. O yüzden kesin konuşmamakta fayda var.

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1962.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Feb 2013 Sun 09:34 pm   Quoting stumpy Not having money did not prevent my parents from loving me and my siblings less , we did not feel inferior because our clothes were not as pretty or as new as the other kids, we did not get less of an education.  We were not rich but we knew what the important things were and are.  This is something taht has stayed with me and taugh me what is important in life and this is what I am passing on. If your heart breaks and you feel bitter because you cannot get your children the latest trendy cloths and toys, then maybe your prioreties is not on the right things.  And if your children do not understand why you cannot get them those things then maybe it is time you explain to them the realety of life, you would be surprised how much they understand. I was not an understanding boy. I always wanted the fancy things that other kids had   mltm liked this message

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1963.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Feb 2013 Sat 08:26 pm   Quoting mltm hadi tukursene tukursene   Kaşınma

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1964.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Feb 2013 Sat 08:26 pm   Quoting mltm       Bence kasapta civciv satilmiyor gokuyum O piliçtir.   Niye olmasın yav? Bebek tavuk civciv değil mi? Belki kasap çocuklara civciv satıyordur?

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1965.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Feb 2013 Sat 08:24 pm   Quoting archinia bakmasana öle allam yareppim.... tükürürüm bak...   Dont look like that. Or I will spit

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1966.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Feb 2013 Sat 08:19 pm   Quoting Inscrutable Senin için kasaptan bir bebek tavuk aldım. I bought a baby chicken for you from the butcher´s. Thank you   Senin için kasaptan bir civciv aldım.   ikicihan and harp00n liked this message

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1967.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Feb 2013 Fri 11:00 pm   Quoting harp00n     Ne demek badi, lafı mı olur ?        Üstadım muzipliğin üstünde.

Thread: Turkish to English please..

1968.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Feb 2013 Fri 10:58 pm   Quoting nessah     gokuyum im coming to msn after about 2 hours i think , or are u gonna sleep ?     Another magazine news?  I can wait you if you insist

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1969.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Feb 2013 Fri 10:53 pm   Quoting Johnk duzeltmelerime yardim ettigin icin tesekkur ederim. Does this sentence mean thank you for my corrections.If so how is "ettigin" formed? For some reason I have not been able to use turkish keyboard here so I am aware some of letters are slightly incorrect   Thank you for helping with my corrections. basima liked this message

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1970.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Feb 2013 Fri 10:29 pm   Quoting _Sekiz_ Sanırım. But can someone translate it for me ? I´m not gonna send anymore texts,this is the only. This is a magazine news. Translating it is against my high principles   ladybakunin, _Sekiz_ and harp00n liked this message

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1971.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Feb 2013 Fri 10:22 pm   Quoting _Sekiz_ saygi duyun!mehmet esi onan ile ozel hayatlari bosanacaklari yonunde cikan haber tepkisini dile getirerek ozel hayatin magazine konu olmasindan,bazilarina saygi gosterin dedi ve ozel hayatin magazine konu olmasindan yakindi,bu ulkede magazin olmasi gereken seviyede kullanmaya ve bu hale getirmekte baska turlu cikarlar arayan zihniyet o kazanin icine herkesi atmaya cok merakli,canim yandi yeter yani niye,hatta iftiraya varan seyler de var,niye gurultu yaratiyorsun,o zaman benim de isim degil diye sinir tanimayalim,nasils reyting kavgasi icinde ala kavga ne ise oraya kosturup duralim,yapmiyorsam ne istiyorsunuz nedir derdiniz,bazilarina saygi duyun,durusunu sahiplenin,cok merakli olsam bu isleri yapar para kazanirim.. I was learning Turkish about 1 month,maybe 2. I tried to translated this text,but I couldn´t.. Is this really written by Turk,or I just can´t translate it? Thank´s in advance.. S.   1 month is not enough to translate this text. Try it after 1 year. Edited (2/15/2013) by gokuyum nessah liked this message

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1972.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Feb 2013 Fri 07:32 pm   Quoting sanja87 I can´t believe this! How could you do that to me? I didn´t expect that from you..I´ve trusted you.You are so selfish. I don´t wanna listen your lies anymore,so please don´t send message to me anymore. İnanamam! Bunu nasıl yapabildin bana? Bunu senden beklemedim.Sana güveniyordum.Çok bencilsin. Yalanların artık duymak istemiyorum,bana mesajlar artık gönderme,lütfen. Buna inanamıyorum. Bunu bana nasıl yapabildin? Bunu senden beklemezdim. Sana güvenmiştim. Sen çok bencilsin. Yalanlarını artık dinlemek istemiyorum, lütfen bana artık mesaj gönderme.   sanja87 liked this message

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1973.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Feb 2013 Fri 05:03 pm   Quoting Abla     My Try: Sevgilisi olanın olmayanın, olup da yok gibi olanın, yok da var gibi olanın, olmayıp da çok isteyenin, oluyor da ne oluyor diyenin, olduğu için çok mutlu olanın, olmadığı için çok mutlu olanın, onsuz olamayanın, onunla hiç olamayanın, her şeye rağmen yüreğinde her daim aşka yer olanın, Sevgililer günü kutlu olsun. Sevgi hep sizinle olsun, yüreğinizde aşka hep yer olsun. Yüzünüzden gülücükler, kalbinizden kelebekler eksik olmasın… I wish a happy Valentine’s day for those who have a sweetheart and those who don’t have, those who have but as if they don’t have, those who don’t have but as if they do have, those who don’t have but who want it so much, those who say what  happens if it happens(what is the use of it?), those who are so happy because they have, those who are so happy because they don’t have, those who cannot live without, those who cannot live with, those who in spite of everything always have a place for love in their hearts.May their valentine days be blessed. I wish you always have affection, a place for love in your hearts. I wish smiles will never be missing from your faces, butterflies from your hearts.     Great try. I couldnt even dare translating it. nemanjasrb, archinia and elenagabriela liked this message

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1974.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Feb 2013 Fri 04:57 pm   Quoting kiz_kiz deleted   I am curious now

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1975.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Feb 2013 Fri 04:55 pm   Quoting AlphaF 2224 tickets were sold for Titanic´s fatal voyage. 2223 ticket holders showed up. There was only one no-show. He was a Turk; Dr. Ömer Akalın. http://www.turknostalji.com/haber/titanik-faciasindan-kurtulan-turk-381.html   Was he your grandfather? You seem so proud

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1976.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Feb 2013 Fri 04:53 pm   Quoting stillealles On the site, what are the best/most useful lessons and who are the most helpful/best teachers.   Best teacher was tunci. But he retired. I am the craziest teacher by the way slovenka007, nifrtity, nemanjasrb and elenagabriela liked this message

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1977.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Feb 2013 Fri 01:49 am   Quoting Abla In the sentence   İyi ayakkabılarını giyin   is the speaker talking about the listener’s certain good pair of shoes which he has seen and whose existance he is sure about? Or is he speaking about good shoes in general, any good shoes that the listener might have in his possession, in which case the accusative marking is here because definiteness is the natural result of the possessive marking. In other words, what is the scope of POSS + ACC here,   İyi [ayakkabılar]ını  giyin OR [İyi ayakkabılar]ını giyin  ?   I was trying to translate this sentence into Finnish and I noticed the translation very much depends on which interpretation I choose for the Turkish sentence.     Both options are possible.

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1978.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Feb 2013 Fri 12:06 am   Quoting harp00n Bu arada, itiraf ediyorum; sitede sevgililer gününü kutlamak yerine (ki bu; seni seviyorum da olabilirdi) protesto etmek için bekleyen bir grup olduğunu göremediğim ve mesaj yolladığım için çok pişmanım. Gelecek yıl, yaşar ve burada olursam kutlamayacam   I protest this day because I dont have a girl friend. But when I have one I will celebrate it with all my enthusiaism.   Edited (2/15/2013) by gokuyum Efi70 and HaNNo liked this message

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1979.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Feb 2013 Thu 08:36 pm   Quoting mltm   You know, it is always better to receive the approvals for the good things you do while looking like you are underestimating yourself than to receive the sarcastic corrections of a mistake you made once while you were very sure of yourself... So, "my try" is my airbag even though I drive very well     Mltm I thought you were a confident woman Edited (2/14/2013) by gokuyum

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1980.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Feb 2013 Thu 08:07 pm   Quoting mltm     My try:   Don´t care if we do not have a house with two rooms, as long as your two eyes are on/with me.   You are not an amateur mltm. Don´t write "My try"  archinia and nessah liked this message

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1981.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Feb 2013 Thu 07:50 pm   Quoting harp00n     Buster olabilir mi badi ?   Ghost buster

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1982.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Feb 2013 Thu 07:21 pm   Quoting mltm     ama mesajın bütün hikmeti de o ulandaydı.   Damn diye çevrilebilir.

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1983.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Feb 2013 Thu 07:17 pm   Quoting mltm Bu arada "ulan" ı da çevirmemişsin, gözümden kaçmadı    Çok kibar ve fazıl bir insanım harp00n liked this message

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1984.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Feb 2013 Thu 07:16 pm   Quoting mltm     Aile kurmak herkesin hakkı ve amaçlarından da biri olmalı ama kısmet meselesi. uygun birini bulamadıktan sonra da beraber olmanın anlamı yok. hele sonunda bitecekse hiç başlamasın daha iyi. üstelik daha umudunu kesmek için yaşın da genç gokuyum.   Bugün kendimi sofu gibi hissediyorum     Beni teselli ettiğin için teşekkür ederim mltm. Bu arada kitâp konusunda yanılıyorsun

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1985.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Feb 2013 Thu 07:06 pm Bu gidişle bütün ömrüm şükretmekle geçecek

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1986.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Feb 2013 Thu 06:59 pm   Quoting nessah 14 Şubat nedir arkadaşım? Ulan 365 günün her gününü anasız babasız geçiren daha 18 yaşını doldurmamış çocuklar var bu ülke de.Hem çalışıp hem de okuyan çocukların nasıl yaşadıklarını biliyor musunuz? Evlerine geldiklerinde, kapıyı açan birinin olmaması, önüne sıcak çorbanın koyulmamasının ne demek olduğunuzu biliyor musunuz? Şükretmeniz gerekirken, saçma bir gün için üzülüyorsunuz pufluyorsunuz.Ama bir gün anlarsınız en iyi sevgilinin ´´Aile´´ olduğunu.. What is this 14 Feb. my friend? There are children younger than 18 who live 365 days of the year without a family in this country. Do you know how the children who works and study live? Do you know what it means for them that there is noone welcomes them when they come to their homes and nobody gives a soup to them? Instead of being grateful, you are worrying for a stupid day. But one day you will understand that the best beloved is family.   Edited (2/14/2013) by gokuyum Edited (2/14/2013) by gokuyum

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1987.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Feb 2013 Thu 06:11 pm   Quoting stumpy the bottomless chair is also part of the urban legend   Dont we all sit on a bottomless chair in this life?  Edited (2/14/2013) by gokuyum

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1988.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Feb 2013 Wed 11:20 pm   Quoting mltm     no, because then you have to prelong the "a". we don´t say "kitaaap". For "kitâbe" you are right but for "kitap´, that "a" is no more in usage.   Nice try. کتاب You see elif? That means you should pronounce it longer than other letters. If we dont pronounce it that way, it is our shame

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1989.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Feb 2013 Wed 08:28 pm   Quoting Inscrutable Sınıf dışarıda şimdi bir fare gördüm. I just saw a mouse outside the classroom. Thank you   Sınıfın dışarısında şimdi bir fare gördüm.

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1990.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Feb 2013 Wed 08:26 pm   Quoting mltm   Yanlış kitabı aldım.     kitâb   Today I wanted to correct you so much Edited (2/13/2013) by gokuyum

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1991.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Feb 2013 Wed 08:23 pm Yeni bir hakaret: Ayol demek sana çok yakışırdı

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1992.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Feb 2013 Wed 08:21 pm   Quoting stumpy Oh I must warn you, there is a test they make you pass before ascending to the Holy See... They make you sit bare bottum on a chair with a hole in the center of it, they then reach underneath to feel if there is anything hanging down and do a visual inspection, if there are, how do I say, family jewels hanging then you qualify to be Pope if there is nothing hanging down there then you are disqualified as it is forbidden for a woman to be Pope. Good luck   Do their lengths give you an advantage?

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1993.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Feb 2013 Wed 08:11 pm   Quoting ikicihan Dağ fare doğurdu. Dağ fare mi doğurdu?   Mountain gave birth to a mouse. Did mountain give birth to a mouse?

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1994.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Feb 2013 Wed 10:03 am   Quoting AlphaF     Nedir bu Yahudilerden çektiğimiz ! Sade şapka olsa; türbanı nereden aldık sanıyorsunuz ? Allahtan bizim İslam alimleri işin farkında değil. http://www.headcoverings-by-devorah.com/Headcoverings_Scarves.htm   They dont force us to take. Why do you blame them?

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1995.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Feb 2013 Wed 10:00 am Where is your photo?

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1996.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Feb 2013 Wed 01:03 am   Quoting stumpy Canada   There are strick regulation here on how the meat is raised and processed   You can never be sure what you eat here I guess I have eaten many kinds of animal so far

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1997.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Feb 2013 Tue 02:31 am I thank myself for my brilliant Turkish

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1998.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Feb 2013 Tue 01:48 am What is wrong with horse meat? Aren´t you used to eat it in Turkey everyday?

Thread: English -- Turkish. Longer text but the last one!

1999.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Feb 2013 Tue 01:42 am   Quoting vona     List me as another Turk who knows how to spell the word "grammar"  Isnt it grammer?

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2000.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Feb 2013 Tue 01:37 am   Quoting Abla   So what? You never ever write to me anyway.   But I write basima liked this message

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2001.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Feb 2013 Mon 10:26 am   Quoting elenagabriela     first of all thank you gokuyum and second...what is the clue..I mean, I have thought is about accusative form here but it seems is not   It is already acusative elena: kalemler-i   elenagabriela liked this message

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2002.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Feb 2013 Mon 10:12 am   Quoting elenagabriela Bana verdiğin kalemlerini kullanıyorum I am using the pencils you gave me   teşekkürler   kalemleri - no possession Edited (2/11/2013) by gokuyum elenagabriela liked this message

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2003.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Feb 2013 Sun 10:15 pm   Quoting Laleler aman siz de ha ben atıflı hocayı tanımam etmem hatta şapka ile ilgili kitap yazdığını da daha bugün öğrendim ya da eskide duymuşsam da unutmuşumdur. Mesela kimler öldürüldü diye sorulunca genelde öldürülenlerin inkilaplara karşı çıkanlar olduğunu özellikle de şapka kanununa karşı çıkanların şapka takmayanların idam edildiğini gördüm sadece bu değil zaten ben ortaokulda iken Mustafa Kemali anlatan bir kitap dağıtmışlardı tüm okula orada da vardı bu idamlar. İnkilaplara karşı çıkan hocaların idam edildiği. Ki bu devlet kitabı idi. Öyle ya da böyle neyse sonuçta insan beşer şaşar. Ben asla kimsenin kötü yaptığını hoş göremem babam da olsa. Atıf hoca değilse de başkaları inkilapları kabul etmedikleri için öldürülmüşler sonuçta. Kanıt?

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2004.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Feb 2013 Sun 08:28 pm   Quoting Laleler Şapka takmanın yahudilere benzemek olacağını söylerek kanuna karşı çıkan bazı islam alimleri idam edilmişti. İstiklâl Mahkemesi istatistiklerine göre, Şapka Kanunu’nun yürürlüğe sokulduğu 2,5 ay içinde tam 57 kişi idam edilmiş, yüzlerce kişi de çeşitli hapis cezalarına çarptırılmıştı. İskipli Atıf Hoca isim olarak vereyim. İdam edildi. Sebebi şapka takmayı red etmesi. Sorry Laleler. But it seems you are wrong. Watch this: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xd1h72_yskilipli-atyf-hoca-neden-idam-edil_shortfilms#.URfkf4OEySo   Note: Don´t forget that there is someone (me) here who checks all the claims against Atatürk. So come here with strong proofs.

Thread: Please, help needed! English -- Turkish

2005.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Feb 2013 Sun 07:00 am   Quoting harp00n Badi PM çalışmıyor.   Dur bir el atayım hocam

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2006.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Feb 2013 Sun 06:59 am   Quoting honeycheerios aile hayatı herşeyden önemli. işte bu yüzden hayatımda kız yok ve buna gerek duymadım. kimsenin kızında gözüm yok çünkü bacım var. zamanı geldiğinde olacak şeyler aşk sevgi. erken olduğu için sadece heves sayıyorum. sevgilisi olandan daha mutluyum ben. çünkü gelip geçici bir heves hrşey. bende heves etmem I´ve tried myself: family life is more important than anything. for this reason there is no girl in my life and this is neccesary(?). I do not have my eyes on anyones daugther because I have a sister. When time is right things will happen, love and affection. because it is early.......   Family life is more important than everything. Because of that I dont have a girlfriend and I have never needed it. I am not interested in others´ girlfriends because I have a sister. Affection and love are the things which will happen when the time comes. I consider them as  passing desires because it is early. I am happier than one who has a girlfriend. Because everything is a passing desire. And I dont have passing desires.   Note: I dont believe any word in this text. This is defence mechanism

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2007.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Feb 2013 Sun 06:49 am I have a great quote for this day. It is "Alone again"  nessah and nemanjasrb liked this message

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2008.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Feb 2013 Sun 06:46 am   Quoting Suzie281971 How do Turks say "be my valentine" or "will you be my valentine"?     Sevgilim olur musun?

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2009.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Feb 2013 Sun 06:45 am   Quoting nessah Dürüstlük denilen şey pahalı bir mülktür, ucuz insanlarda bulunmaz..     Honesty is an expensive posession, cheap people dont own it. nessah liked this message

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2010.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Feb 2013 Sat 10:30 pm   Quoting harp00n     Sende öylesin badi     Teşekkür ederim harpoonum koç yiğidüm

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2011.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Feb 2013 Sat 01:28 am   Quoting nemanjasrb   We all know it´s easy. I didn´t say it´s hard....   You are a man of big goals nemanja   harp00n liked this message

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2012.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Feb 2013 Sat 01:24 am   Quoting nemanjasrb     so?   so so

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2013.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Feb 2013 Sat 01:22 am   Quoting mltm   no, there was one last...     It doesnt matter answer would be the same

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2014.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Feb 2013 Sat 01:20 am   Quoting mltm     I lost as well all my messages, even those that I have not answered yet. and I forgot what was written, thus, I won´t be able to answer them anymore  Well at least you answered my messages before the accident

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2015.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Feb 2013 Sat 01:18 am   Quoting honeycheerios Thank you so much for your help!   Perhaps you could help me translate this too, I have changed the sentence somewhat. From what I have understood though, you are most loveable/wonderful. Anladığım kadarıyla çok sevimlisin/harikasın.

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2016.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Feb 2013 Sat 01:16 am   Quoting mltm     maybe that does not suck that much  I am sure you are even happy. But I am crying

Thread: The financing of terrorism and the Kurdish issue

2017.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Feb 2013 Sat 12:57 am   Quoting elifce     You don`t know me at all   But it seems you know everything about me. You judged me so quickly roxanatv liked this message

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2018.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Feb 2013 Sat 12:50 am   Quoting elifce     Great post! People here should be respectful of other ethnicities living in Turkey Being respectful and you? What kind of an equation is this?

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2019.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Feb 2013 Sat 12:40 am   Quoting Abla ...hadi be.   You are becoming one  of us Abla

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2020.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Feb 2013 Sat 12:39 am   Quoting nemanjasrb     Umarım iyisindir.   Come on nemenja. This was too easy

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2021.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Feb 2013 Sat 12:37 am   Quoting nessah its ok abla nevermind i dont need it anymore thanks sweety   Why don´t you adress me as sweety too?    ümitli, HaNNo, nessah and nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: OUR INTERNAL AFFAIRS

2022.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Feb 2013 Sat 12:36 am   Quoting AlphaF EXCERPT FROM A NEWSPAPER COLUMN   (by BEKİR COŞKUN)   Strateji ortakları ABD’nin büyükelçisi dahi dayanamadı, önceki gün medyayı çağırıp “Olanları anlayamıyoruz” dedi… Kim anlıyor ki?… “Türkiye’nin işlerine karışma” dediler adama… ABD’nin bir tek çişe gitmelerine karışmadığı bu ülkede… Utanmadan… ........................ The US Ambassador, representative of their strategical partner, invited the media  and declared "We cannot understand what is going on in this country...". "Keep out of this country´s internal affairs" was the reply given to the Ambassador. With no shame at all; in a country where the US Ambassador dictates everything. but the time they should go and pee.   Alpha herşeyi bu kadar takma. Keçiler sonra çiti aşar  Ben benimkileri zor zaptediyorum harp00n liked this message

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2023.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Feb 2013 Sat 12:33 am   Quoting jolanaze     Because I want you so much my love.   I want to translate a decent text so much my God HaNNo liked this message

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2024.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Feb 2013 Sat 12:30 am   Quoting ttown harpoon helped me! He´s the best!!   Harpoon. May God bless you insallah liked this message

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2025.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Feb 2013 Sat 12:29 am I cant even send pm. That sucks nemanjasrb liked this message

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2026.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Feb 2013 Fri 06:57 pm , Edited (2/8/2013) by gokuyum nessah liked this message

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2027.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Feb 2013 Thu 09:47 pm ,     Edited (2/7/2013) by gokuyum

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2028.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Feb 2013 Thu 09:40 pm   Quoting Abla       denizleri hep sevdim ben, suları hep sevdim; seni denizler, sular gibi sevdim; sular ne güzelse seni öyle sevdim (Erdal Öz)   My Try:   I always loved the seas, I always loved the water. I loved you the way I loved the seas and the water. As much as how beautiful the water is that is how I loved you.   Maybe? Nativesss where are you?

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2029.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Feb 2013 Thu 09:36 pm   Quoting sakine Babamın adı Mehmet. Why isn´t it "Babam adı Mehmet"? What does the -ın ending mean? Thank you   My father´s name is Mehmet Babamın adı Mehmet.   -ın is genetive. It connects "babam" and "ad". Edited (2/7/2013) by gokuyum

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2030.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Feb 2013 Tue 09:22 pm   Quoting Abla     denizleri hep sevdim ben, suları hep sevdim; seni denizler, sular gibi sevdim; sular ne güzelse seni öyle sevdim (Erdal Öz)   My Try:   I always loved seas, I always loved water. I loved you the way I loved the seas and the water. No matter how beautiful the water is that is how I loved you.   ne güzelse means ne kadar güzelse here abla.

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2031.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Feb 2013 Tue 12:30 pm   Quoting Lm18 What does the word ´yardiris´ mean?  The sentence was ´time is yardiris time´  Thanks Verb is yardırmak. It is slang. It can mean many things: One of its maeanings I know is to make someone laugh a lot .   Lm18 liked this message

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2032.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Feb 2013 Mon 08:10 pm Mltm I sentence you according to article 4.

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2033.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Feb 2013 Mon 08:05 pm   Quoting nessah when i see how difficult lives other people are living and how big problems they have, i realise that i have so much to be grateful and that im very lucky. i love my life, my family, friends and my country.       Diğer insanların ne kadar zor bir yaşam sürdürdüklerini ve ne kadar büyük problemleri olduğunu gördüğümde minnettar ve mutlu olmam gereken ne kadar çok şeye sahip olduğumu anlıyorum. Hayatımı, ailemi, arkadaşlarımı ve ülkemi seviyorum.   nessah liked this message

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2034.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Feb 2013 Mon 08:02 pm   Quoting nessah I wish I could give them alot of presents     Keşke onlara çok hediye verebilsem. Edited (2/4/2013) by gokuyum Edited (2/4/2013) by gokuyum nessah liked this message

Thread: Should Türkiye (Turkey) be ready to join European Union (EU) ?

2035.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Feb 2013 Mon 11:22 am   Quoting ikicihan Lets start a union and any european, middle eastern and north african counrtries may join it after passsing and depending some criteria! What about that? Russia, china, central and south asian countries may be partners, too!   We have already a union here. Jedis union. Everybody who meets our criteria can join us. Our only criteria is having a functional brain og2009 liked this message

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2036.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Feb 2013 Mon 10:59 am   Quoting Abla It is annoying that you cannot glance at someone´s profile any more without signing in.   "Due to privacy concerns" they say. I wonder what such privacy concerns are haha. It is because of me   nemanjasrb and nessah liked this message

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2037.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Feb 2013 Sat 02:42 am   Quoting Henry     Definitely not!!! So the count is now 3 who don´t want you to retire 1 maybe (mltm) 0 who definitely want you to go. A small statistical base, but I see this as the majority say stay. I guess I need a rest. Maybe not. I am not sure. I will give a decision soon. Thank you for your support. Come and join jedis too. May God bless madness

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2038.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2013 Fri 11:10 pm Ötme Bülbül http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCbzegRBmZ8 I get soft every day     Ötme Bülbül (Ne Ötersin)  Don´t sing nightingale (Why do you sing?) Ne ötersin dertli dertli Dayanamam zara bülbül Hem dertlisin hem firkatli Yakma beni nara bülbül Why do you sing with sorrow? I can´t bear seeing you crying  You are both troubled and alone Don´t burn me in fire nightingale. Ötme bülbül ötme bülbül Derdi derde katma bülbül Benim derdim bana yeter Bir dert de sen katma bülbül Don´t sing nightingale, don´t. Don´t add more to troubles. My troubles are enough already Don´t add one too nightingale. Bilirim aşıksın güle Gülün halından kim bile Bizim bahçedeki güle El atıp dolaşma bülbül I know you are in love with rose Who knows how fare the rose? Around the rose in our garden Don´t wander o nightingale. Ötme bülbül ötme bülbül Derdi derde katma bülbül Benim derdim bana yeter Bir dert de sen katma bülbül Don´t sing nightingale, don´t. Don´t add more to troubles. My troubles are enough already Don´t add one too nightingale. Bülbüllerin aslı mısın Kafeslerde besli misin Benim gibi yaslı mısın Niçin giydin kara bülbül Are you the chief of nightingales? Are you fed in a cage? Are you mournful for me? Why do you wear black nightingale? Ötme bülbül ötme bülbül Derdi derde katma bülbül Benim derdim bana yeter Bir dert de sen katma bülbül Don´t sing nightingale, don´t. Don´t add more to troubles. My troubles are enough already Don´t add one too nightingale. Bülbüllerden hurişansın Yardan bana bir nişansın Benim gibi perişansın Gel ah u zar etme bülbül You are the angel of nightingales You are a reminiscence from beloved You are miserable like me Don´t sigh and cry nightingale. Ötme bülbül ötme bülbül Derdi derde katma bülbül Benim derdim bana yeter Bir dert de sen katma bülbül Don´t sing nightingale, don´t. Don´t add more to troubles. My troubles are enough already Don´t add one too nightingale. Edited (2/1/2013) by gokuyum Edited (2/1/2013) by gokuyum Edited (5/1/2013) by gokuyum elenagabriela, ikibir, ümitli and trip liked this message

Thread: Ottoman Poetry

2039.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2013 Fri 10:48 pm 1.‘Âşık-ı zâruñ kimi mehcûr-ı bezm-i dil-rübâ     Kiminüñ bâr-ı gam-ı agyâr ile kaddi dü-tâ  Ağlayan aşıkların kimi gönül alan sevgilinin meclisinden men edilmiş Kiminin rakiplerinin verdiği gamın yükü ile boyu iki büklüm olmuş Some of the crying lovers are banned from the gathering of beloved Some of them are bent double because of the weight of the sorrows given by rivals 2.Kısmet olaldan cihâne mihnet ü derd ü belâ     Her kişi bir gamda herkes bir belâya mübtelâ  Cihana sıkıntı, dert ve bela kısmet olalı beri Her kişi bir gamda herkes bir belaya mübtela. Since hardship, trouble and calamity has appeared in world Everybody has been in a trouble and grief-stricken    3.Kande bir gam yârsız kalsa benümle yâr olur     Bir belâ kim sâhibin bulmaz baña gam-hâr olur Nerde bir gam yarsız kalsa benimle yar olur Bir bela ki sahibini bulmaz bana sıkıntı verir When a trouble can´t find a friend, it becomes my friend When a calamity can´t find its owner, it gives me trouble.                          Nevî´zâde Atâyî [ Dikkat! Gönderme var ] nevbahar liked this message

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2040.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2013 Fri 10:12 pm   Quoting mltm   i am too old to run after mysteries. so let it stay as a mystery      I agree. My mystery quota is full now

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2041.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2013 Fri 09:26 pm   Quoting mltm     so are you implying that we do not use rude words because we wear masks?   maybe, maybe not.  no comment

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2042.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2013 Fri 09:22 pm   Quoting mltm     why? what should I know about you? what do others know about you that I do not know? It is a mystery

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2043.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2013 Fri 09:13 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb     Ne demek şimdi bu?   mltm doesnt want me here nemanja

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2044.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2013 Fri 09:02 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb Is there any different between: 1)Nerede otuyor bilmiyorum.   2)Nerede oturduğunu bilmiyorum. 3)Nerede oturmuş olduğunu bilmiyorum? The first two is okay,but the problem is in the third one. That´s like I don´t know where he had lived? Biggest problem here is that I don´t know usage of this tense even in English.  Probably I was sleeping that day at school.   Don´t sleep, always keep your eyes open. That is what I have learnt so far in my life   nemanjasrb liked this message

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2045.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2013 Fri 08:59 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb     NO.   Farewell nemenja. Don´t forget me gamzicc liked this message

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2046.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2013 Fri 08:56 pm   Quoting mltm     "asshole" is a very bad word  Now, whatever you will say about yourself will be falsified because of this. I dont care. I cant wear masks.   nemanjasrb liked this message

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2047.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2013 Fri 08:53 pm   Quoting mltm     yep, maybe gokuyum.    People should retire one day when they ask this question to themselves.   mltm if you knew me you wouldn´t want me to retire

Thread: A Turkish University/ A Turkish Minister

2048.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2013 Fri 07:46 pm   Quoting AlphaF     The two expressions both indicate that boys and girls are together, with a small fine difference.   "kızlarla erkekler oturuyor"  may be used to describe girls and boys sharing the same auditorium, but possibly,  say with girls at front rows and boys in the back rows. "kızlı erkekli oturuyorlar" indicates mixed company in the auditorium, no segregation...   Alpha are you out of way because of this? Or are there other reasons?

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2049.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2013 Fri 07:43 pm   Quoting mltm     but i think it is just exceptional idiomatic common usage. because you always say: - Sana bir şey söylücem. (not "bir şeyi") - Bir şey yapmamız lazım.     But it deserves a more extensive research.   Exceptional or not they are accusative

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2050.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2013 Fri 07:06 pm   Quoting Yarvik364         Oh, and is it not "offensive" that you keep on repeating the word "perfect" while no one has ever claimed that everything MUST be "perfect"? Diagnosing someone with obsessiveness is also a little bit strange. Are you a psychiatrist? It may "offend" people to see someone in a wheelchair. What are you going to do? Smash the wheelchair into pieces?     Yarvik you are an asshole and this is not because you are autistic. You willingly misinterpret what I say. This is your character. I have no business with you anymore.   Edited (2/1/2013) by gokuyum

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2051.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2013 Fri 05:35 pm Should I retire? basima liked this message

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2052.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2013 Fri 05:33 pm   Quoting Yarvik364     Where did I write: I want to deliberately complain? I do not experience myself complaining. I never complain, actually. Sorry my bad

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2053.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2013 Fri 05:31 pm nemanjasrb liked this message

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2054.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2013 Fri 05:20 pm You don´t pay for it and you still complain. You can hire a teacher if you want. We don´t force you to come here. elenagabriela, Adam25, stumpy and Elisabeth liked this message

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2055.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2013 Fri 05:17 pm   Quoting Yarvik364     Deep sigh ... You don´t want to learn things in a precise way, that is what you made clear, didn´t you? What DO you want? Oh, we are not lynching him ...  Non-autistic people sometimes play unfair games because they demand emotional acknowledgment. I don´t want. But aren´t you the one who wants everything to be precise? Be precise then.   stumpy and nemanjasrb liked this message

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2056.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2013 Fri 05:12 pm   Quoting Yarvik364         That is what I tried to tell you when I first joined this forum: be open, as a child, without prejudice. In fact, most adults can easily master any language, but they are afraid of making mistakes or afraid of speaking in public. Children experiment. They make mistakes and then try something else if it doesn´t work. Change your learning strategy. If you think: I can not do it, you will never be able to progress in the first place! Why not create an English language class as well?     Why don´t you be modest and satisfy with what you get?    elenagabriela liked this message

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2057.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2013 Fri 05:06 pm   Quoting mltm     There is already a question mark. so, it is necessarily a question   Yeah but it is not a precise question.

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2058.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2013 Fri 04:58 pm   Quoting Yarvik364     Same story over here . So, is everything all right now? No hard feelings? To be more precise: Asperger´s Syndrome. That is not a vegetable .   Look my friend. Everything doesn´t need to be perfect. Asperger syndrome or Asperger´s Synodrome. Why do you want to correct everything? This is an obsessive behavor and this offend people. Let it go. Edited (2/1/2013) by gokuyum

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2059.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2013 Fri 04:52 pm   Quoting Yarvik364     Hi-hi ... Come and join us because we are so vulnerable and alone. We are so afraid and so sensitive and damaged.   Yarvik you can join jedis too.

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2060.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2013 Fri 04:50 pm   Quoting Yarvik364       Atatürk killed many knowledgeable scholars because they were considered terrorists in those days. He simply wanted to destroy the profound knowledge they possessed in order to suppress any opposition. Was he democratically elected? Long live freedom of speech. Who is the real "terrorist"?     Proof?

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2061.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2013 Fri 04:49 pm   Quoting Yarvik364           This is a place where people come to learn Turkish. Fine, no problem. But does that mean you do not need to pay much attention to English? How can one properly explain Turkish grammar without the ability to express oneself accurately in English? I do not think I am a "guru", I do not think that you are inferior, I do not think you deserve to be punished, etc., etc. But sometimes I really become tired of prejudiced and ignorant people. AGAIN: this doesn´t mean you´re all prejudiced. Explaining things is an endless ritual in my life because people simply chose to misinterpret almost anything I do or say. I work in aviation and I must be very precise, otherwise airplanes come falling from the sky. Having a keen eye for details is common in people with autism and for that particular reason they hired me.           What can we do? We know only this much English

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2062.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2013 Fri 04:47 pm   Quoting Yarvik364     Of course you lynch me, but I am used to being lynched. You should have seen the situation I was in at school )))) .... Primates want to expel genetically inferior members of the group. That is how God intended the world to be. It is natural, but cruel and uncivilized (or so we think nowadays). It is also cruel to kill animals for our pleasure. Same thing. You offended people yarvik. In the beginning we all helped you. I am against all kind of discrimination.

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2063.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2013 Fri 04:44 pm   Quoting Yarvik364     How many people with autism do you really know? What kind of information do they spread for the general public about autism in Turkey?   I had a really close friend with asperger syndrome.

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2064.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2013 Fri 02:06 pm   Quoting Yarvik364     So it is socially acceptable in Turkish culture to mock people with autism? What else do you do with those people in Turkey? Do you still lock them up or put them in gas chambers?    I dont mock you because you are authistic. I have no problem with authistic people.

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2065.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2013 Fri 02:03 pm   Quoting mltm I just HATE lynching.   Look meltem we dont lynch him.We helped him a lot.

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2066.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2013 Fri 02:01 pm   Quoting mltm and also you do not use accusative case for indefinite objects like "bir şey".   Bir şeyi de yap. Bir şeyi de bil.

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2067.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jan 2013 Thu 11:55 pm   Quoting insallah      Then you had better say  What is the name of this phenomenon ? for your ´question´   If you make such a point of correcting others ... Name of this phenomenon? Well said insa. Come and join jedis

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2068.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jan 2013 Thu 11:52 pm   Quoting xxsexy_smithyxx     Thankyou Gokuyum, you have been most kind. And with the nickname I wouldn´t know how to change it, if you can point me in the direction of how to change it then I will change it just for you   After all these compliments you don´t have to change it     If you really want to change it, contact with moderators.

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2069.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jan 2013 Thu 11:48 pm   Quoting Abla Do you often laugh at learners gokuyum?   I have noticed a special characteristic in Turks: innocent laugh. It confuses me because malicious pleasure is the only pleasure I know.   Sometimes I laugh at them. But I don´t mock them. But yarvik is an exception

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2070.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jan 2013 Thu 10:26 pm   Quoting Yarvik364 I saw the monkey in a zoo. Is this possible: Hayvanat bahçesindeki maymunuku gördüm?! Cheers, ___R___ I am still laughing at this. I am not innocent   nemanjasrb liked this message

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2071.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jan 2013 Thu 10:24 pm   Quoting sanja87     YOU are incredibly immature!!!! Didn´t your parents teach you to say: ´Thank you.´ ? When I was child,and when someone older gave me chocolate or some sweets,my parents were always saying:´Say ´Thank you´ to sir´. It´s really inappropriate not to say ´Thank you´,and it´s much more inappropriate to make sarcastic comments. I corrected you because I wanted to help. I am not like yarvik. Don´t misunderstand me   Elisabeth and nemanjasrb liked this message

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2072.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jan 2013 Thu 10:20 pm   Quoting nessah thanks arkadasim how kind of u !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Don´t thank me. You deserved it   nessah liked this message

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2073.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jan 2013 Thu 10:19 pm   Quoting MarioninTurkey You´re welcome. çok naziksiniz   Og is an Ottoman gentleman og2009 liked this message

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2074.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jan 2013 Thu 10:18 pm   Quoting nessah great, i was close at least       Yes. I will give you a gum as a reward

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2075.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jan 2013 Thu 10:17 pm   Quoting MarioninTurkey      HarpOOn: I understand you easily. So I hope you are using "old" to mean "been on the site a long time" rather than "geriatric and needing my pension soon"!!   I understand harpoon easily too. He is my buddy. Now we even communicate telepathicaly harp00n liked this message

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2076.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jan 2013 Thu 10:10 pm   Quoting nessah i think simdiden means from now on     "şimdiden itibaren" means "from now on". "şimdiden" literaly means "from now"  but we can translate it as "already" or "in advance". Edited (1/31/2013) by gokuyum nessah liked this message

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2077.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jan 2013 Thu 10:08 pm   Quoting nessah     oh come on we all know u like her nick   Why do you think so?

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2078.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jan 2013 Thu 10:05 pm   Quoting xxsexy_smithyxx     I´m sorry that you think that of me, I can´t change your mind any other way. I won´t bother you again but just want to say all the best to you in the future. I hope you have a long, happy life and a successful business Benim için öyle düşündüğün için üzgünüm. Fikrini değiştiremiyorum. Seni bir daha rahatsız etmeyeceğim. Sadece sana gelecekte en iyisini dilemek istedim. Umarım uzun ve mutlu bir hayatın ve başarılı bir kariyerin olur.     If you change your stupid nick, I promise I will help you more Edited (1/31/2013) by gokuyum Abla liked this message

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2079.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jan 2013 Thu 12:11 am   Quoting AlphaF EN İYİ AŞK İŞSİZKEN OLUR, YETER Kİ PARAN OLSUN !     İşsiz adam = ıssız adam

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2080.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jan 2013 Thu 12:09 am   Quoting AlphaF In RECEP İVEDİK´s (also harp00n´s) Türkish "uzayacaksın" means "you will go".   In my Turkish "uzayacaksın" means "kabak tadı verdi". HaNNo liked this message

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2081.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jan 2013 Wed 11:55 pm   Quoting tristerecuerdos Hello! Would someone please translate me this: baklava gibi mi. Id really appreciate it. Thank you!   Like baklava (a dessert)? Is it like baklava? nemanjasrb liked this message

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2082.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jan 2013 Wed 12:52 pm   Quoting Yarvik364               I started learning Turkish a month ago and can not yet explain grammar in Turkish. I would if I could. The fact that "thank you" doesn´t always appear doesn´t mean I´m not grateful. If you pay close attention, you will even notice a "wow", for example. People usually only see what they want to see and vice verse. Most so-called adults are not honest either. They are usually busy protecting their damaged ego. I don´t mind. I can accept all living beings. You obviously have a certain idea about me, but you are so mistaken. I didn´t realize you are so sensitive although I tried to explain that I am simply busy playing with language and oh, are there people behind all this? I sometimes forget about that. Sorry. I do have huge "balls", though . How come there is no one now who feels the need to tell you that you should read the forum rules?  Are we all treated equally? I think not, but that´s reality. We all know what they do with people who have autism in countries such as Romania ... I am a person with autism and that doesn´t mean I am antisocial, but I sometimes forget how sensitive neurotypical people can be. It must be complicated for you to experience so many shared emotions all the time. I am glad of not having to go through all that. My emotions are very short-lived as well: I can have a fight with someone and forget about it 5 minutes later in order for me to continue interacting with that very same person without a grudge.            You seem like an intelligent person. You should know this there is a way of doing everything. You can criticise our English. Maybe you do it because you want to help. But your style is wrong. You must be kind. Maybe you think there is no need for it. And maybe you think critcising a person´s English doesn´t mean criticising that person. Theorically  you are right. But don´t forget we are egoist creatures. When you criticise our English, we feel you criticise us too. Because of authism it seems you lack empathy and you don´t have strong emotions. But learning how to behave is not about emotions. You just have to use your brain.  If you don´t want to behave properly, noone will help you after a while.   ümitli, Sir_Robalot, nemanjasrb and elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: Are there any native Arabic speaking members who are willing to help us?

2083.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jan 2013 Tue 11:59 pm Not easy HaNNo, Aida krishan and nemanjasrb liked this message

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2084.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jan 2013 Tue 11:27 pm   Quoting mltm i started to learn arabic last month. i already know how to write and read. i will start the grammar but at least i am happy that i already know some vocabulary but i noticed that in arabic the pronounciation of these words that we use can be quite different. sometimes i say a word and my arabic friend say "what?!". I learn Arabic too. Do you know this site? It is the best. http://www.arabicpod.net/user/home   nemanjasrb liked this message

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2085.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jan 2013 Tue 11:17 pm   Quoting Abla       Could it alternatively be like this?   In order to show a special favour to your wife he let his mother make a delicious pie.   Or for the mother to eat  -  I don´t know.   No abla. It doesn´t make sense.

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2086.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jan 2013 Tue 09:13 pm   Quoting harp00n Badi, biraz abarttık sanırım   Hocam ne yaptın sen? Vur dedik öldürdün elenagabriela liked this message

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2087.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jan 2013 Tue 08:59 pm   Quoting harp00n I didnt promise and waiting....   Harpoonum koç yiğidüm zafer dağın ardında bizi bekliyor. İlerü!

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2088.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jan 2013 Tue 08:54 pm   Quoting harp00n Cukkkk !!!    Yeminimi bozdum uleeen. Savulun!  nemanjasrb liked this message

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2089.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jan 2013 Tue 08:29 pm Yarvik we correct your mistakes and explain in your language what you did wrong . But in return instead of thanking us you criticise our English. This is so cheap mate. Why don´t you correct our mistakes and explain in our language what we did wrong ? Try to do it in Turkish like we do in English if you have balls . I promise you I won´t criticise you. Edited (1/29/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/29/2013) by gokuyum elenagabriela, harp00n, deli and nemanjasrb liked this message

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2090.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jan 2013 Tue 07:22 pm   Quoting Yarvik364     You seem to have difficulties understanding that not everyone values the same priorities as you obviously do. Apart from that: boyum refers to a person while "it"can never ever refer to a person (unless in a pejorative sense). It doesn´t refer to a person as you said. It refers to the "height of the person". The problem here is without mentioning whose height it is, how will you know what the other person means. So using "boy" with a "possesive suffix" is necessary.

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2091.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jan 2013 Tue 05:48 pm   Quoting Yarvik364     "It" refers to a specific thing or animal in this case, so we both know what we´re talking about and "it" always refers to a person or an animal (although I disagree with the latter). You point at a plant, for example, and ask me: will it grower taller? Of course it will (hopefully).   If I point at something you are correct. But you can´t always speak a language pointing at things.

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2092.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jan 2013 Tue 05:40 pm   Quoting Yarvik364     Bulaşıkları bulaşık makinesine onlar koydular.   Now you emphasise they.

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2093.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jan 2013 Tue 05:36 pm   Quoting Yarvik364     No. It is obvious that "tall" refers to a person/object having a certain height in this context. What would be the answer to your question (what)? But it doesnt say if it is my height, your height or his height. The answer would be: boyum, boyun, boyu

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2094.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jan 2013 Tue 05:27 pm   Quoting Yarvik364 İlk önce tabağını masaya o koydu: first of all, he/she put a dish on the table.   Cheers, Robert If you put "o" near predicate, it means you are emphasising it. You emphasise "he/she"

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2095.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jan 2013 Tue 05:23 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb When I was in school,we were doing something in my native language,and I realized that I wouldn´t know to say it in Turkish: 1)Go where you want. -Nereye istersin git? 2)He appeared from where we haven´t expected him. Beklemediğmiz yerden çıktı. 3)You don´t need to go where you´re not invited. Davet edilmediğin yere gitmek zorunda değilsin. There are probably mistakes in my English,but it´s not necessary to correct it.       sanja87 and nemanjasrb liked this message

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2096.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jan 2013 Tue 05:21 pm   Quoting Yarvik364   Is it required to mention boyun in this sentence:   Bir gün boyun uzayacak.   The verb uzamak already conveys the meaning of growing taller (which obviously refers to a person´s height). Again this is one of many examples where one says the same thing twice.     In English if I said :It will grow taller. Wouldn´t you ask what?

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2097.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jan 2013 Tue 12:26 am   Quoting ulak It´s too good to be real. Gerçek olamaycak kadar iyi. This translation is too bad to have been done by him.(- hope is correct in english..) Bu çeviri onun tarafından yapılmış olamayacak kadar kötü. All they have in the house is old. All they had in the house is burnt now. Evin içindeki herşeyleri eski. Evin içindeki herşeyleri şimdi yanmış durumda. Is this correct or I heard wrong?    like in the movies= filmlerdeki gibi  correct                                               Bu çiçekleri kabul ettiğime pişman oldum. correct   teşekkür ederim you are welcome.       ulak liked this message

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2098.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jan 2013 Tue 12:21 am   Quoting ayse-eski There is no point in trying to hold on people onto you.  Whoever wants to stay in your life, will find a way, even if life itself insists on separating you two.   İnsanları kendine bağlamaya çalışmanın bir gereği yok. Hayatında kalmak isteyen, hayat ikinizi ayırmakta ısrar etse bile bir yolunu bulacaktır.

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2099.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jan 2013 Tue 12:16 am   Quoting nessah ?is there a problem?       No problem for me nessah. I accept you with all your mistakes

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2100.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jan 2013 Mon 09:52 pm   Quoting nessah ah ok i didnt thought of that, i knew where all the suffixes would be but i didnt thought of it that way, i thought it was something more to it, thnx ihgihihihih   Don´t let Yarvik see this    sashk, harp00n, cemsah, Abla and nemanjasrb liked this message

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2101.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jan 2013 Mon 09:46 pm   Quoting nickfransadrien Hi does anybody now about a typing tutor for the turkish f keyboard or a turkish dvorak layout. I want to learn turkish but it´s to much of a hurdle to put in the turkish characters by clicking and I´m not keen on learning the turkish qwerty either. Thanks.   http://www.delinetciler.net/forum/masaustu-programlari/51084-10-parmak-klavye-kullanmasini-ogreten-program-turkce.html

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2102.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jan 2013 Mon 09:41 pm   Quoting gokuyum   Quoting ayse-eski I wanted you to understand me 100% so I got it translated. You are very optimist.   Miracles still happen. Hallelujah!

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2103.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jan 2013 Mon 09:30 pm   Quoting Donkeyoaty (sorry accents don´t work) Please correct my attempt   .....Her renginden tattik. Hepsinin tadi baska guzeldi We tasted every colour. All the various tastes were good. All of them tasted good in their own way. Bizden baska insanlar da istedikleri dondurmalari alip yiyordu Other people too, were eating icecreams when they wanted them Hem de hic para odemeden Also without paying Dogrusu bu gezegeni cok sevdik We really liked this planet Keske Dunya´miz da boyle cicekli ve tatli olsaydi If only on our earth too we had such flowers and tastes. If only our world was flowery and tasty like that Bu guzelliklerin sirrini mutlaka ogrenmeliydim These wonderful ..... surely I must have learnt ??? I must certainly have learnt the secret of these beauties. Burada renki ve kazanlar dolusu dondurmalari Dunya cocuklarina , Here full bowls of coloured icecream to children of world anneme, babama tattirmaliydim. to (for ?) my mother, to my father I must have  tasted   I must have children of world, my mother and my father tasted  full bowls of coloured icecream here.     Edited (1/28/2013) by gokuyum

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2104.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jan 2013 Mon 09:16 pm When will you return to earth donkeyoaty?

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2105.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jan 2013 Mon 08:36 pm   Quoting nessah why am i not surprised. like i said before, i know what type u are. im a very very good judge of character dont ask me what type u are     Love or leave    elenagabriela liked this message

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2106.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jan 2013 Mon 08:21 pm   Quoting nessah in your dreams     you are always welcome

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2107.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jan 2013 Mon 08:20 pm   Quoting nessah how? u can be easily. feelings are inside not outside.       I am in love with myself

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2108.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jan 2013 Mon 07:52 pm   Quoting Abla     Ok, just don´t forget that without native Turks this site would be dead in two days. Lets kill natives and learn by ourselves. Their English makes me sick. Our Turkish is way better   nemanjasrb liked this message

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2109.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jan 2013 Mon 07:49 pm   Quoting nessah hi farah welcome, its me who suggested this site to u, from allthelyrics.com   I guess you suggested here because of me nessah   nemanjasrb liked this message

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2110.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jan 2013 Mon 07:46 pm   Quoting nessah     who knows     How can I be jealous of someone I have never seen? nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: how do you say this in turkish?

2111.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jan 2013 Mon 07:43 pm   Quoting harp00n     Bir halta yaramayan Istanbul Turkçesi bilenlerin halini görüyoruz burada...    Samsun Türkçesi en iyisi tunci liked this message

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2112.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jan 2013 Mon 11:37 am   Quoting nessah keske bende senin yaninda olabilseydim ve inan su an senin yaninda olmak icin herseyimi verirdim canimi bile...   Nessah where do you find these texts? Or are they written for you?   elenagabriela liked this message

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2113.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jan 2013 Mon 11:34 am   Quoting ayse-eski hasta oluyorummmmm göhsümde hışırtı başladııı ayacip ses çıkarıyorum   I am getting sick. I hear rustlings coming from my chest. Weird noises come from me. MilesTraveller liked this message

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2114.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jan 2013 Mon 10:54 am Ettirgenlik.

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2115.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jan 2013 Sun 11:33 am   Quoting DeniseLA There was no more, i was asking for "Denise" and the person in the phone(i dont know him) said "denise" iyour.. and i dont know turkish s i just say okey bye..   Denise, iyor is continous tense and it always comes after a verb. So only possible option is you couldn´t hear the verb. Edited (1/27/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/27/2013) by gokuyum

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2116.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jan 2013 Sun 11:32 am   Quoting Yarvik364     Aha. In: Okula gitmeyi istiyorum, gitmeyi is a definitive noun with the accusative suffix added. So you actually say: I want the act of going to school. "The act of going" is a noun in Turkish and because it is a direct object, it requires the accusative case alongside the transitive verb istemek. Correct? Okula gitmek istiyorum. (indefinite object) Okula gitmeyi istiyorum. (definite object)   You can say both sentences. But we often prefer saying first sentence.

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2117.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jan 2013 Sun 11:21 am   Quoting mltm     then you know ottoman turkish??     I study on it in university. But I still have a long way to go. mltm liked this message

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2118.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jan 2013 Sun 11:14 am   Quoting mltm     i did not know "iktifa etmek". though my turkish vocabulary is not that bad.. . it should be that much in use.   Its root is kafi. Or maybe not. But they have connection Edited (1/27/2013) by gokuyum

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2119.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jan 2013 Sun 11:10 am   Quoting harp00n     If the person who makes you upset always, that means you are not a person who s/he doesnt want to make happy. Give up !    Badim iki olumsuz cümleyi olumlu yapar. İlkiyle iktifa etmelisin (nev gibi söyledim)

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2120.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jan 2013 Sun 11:07 am   Quoting deli      There is someone that makes me cry ,that I love alot more than those who make me laugh my try   Great attempt.

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2121.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jan 2013 Sun 10:43 am   Quoting Yarvik364     Because there is no such structure in English local adverbial + -ki usually translates as a relative clause: ´The monkey which is in the zoo´.   Bana öyle geliyor ki birbirimizi anlıyoruz . Cheers, Robert   birbirimizi: eachother

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2122.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jan 2013 Sun 10:42 am   Quoting Yarvik364     What is: to start to school? You can start an engine, for example. Do you mean: he will start going to school next year? Yes. We say both of them: 1)Okula başlayacak. 2)Okula gitmeye başlayacak.

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2123.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jan 2013 Fri 08:48 pm   Quoting ikicihan we have pronunciation problems with some foreign words too. congratulations and acknowledgements are two of them.     Can´t see the picture. nemanjasrb liked this message

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2124.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jan 2013 Fri 08:42 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb     Yusuf Ali? or just Ali? Yusuf Ali like Mohammed Ali   elenagabriela and nemanjasrb liked this message

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2125.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jan 2013 Fri 08:39 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb And Yusuf sounds much better. If I ever change my name , it´s gonna be Yusuf or Ömer..   I would like to to add an Ali to my name nemanjasrb liked this message

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2126.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jan 2013 Fri 08:35 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb     You didn´t hurt me at all. Don´t be sorry. I know,I agree.   You can call me Yisif. I am in peace with myself nema

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2127.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jan 2013 Fri 08:31 pm   Quoting Donkeyoaty     Denizli (By the sea...although its not, so don´t know why it came to be called this.)     There is another theory: Its old name was "domuzlu". It means city has a lot of pigs. But domuz is not a favorite animal in İslam .So instead of calling city domuzlu, people decided to call it denizli. Because sea is a beautiful thing and it has some similar voices with domuz.   Edited (1/25/2013) by gokuyum Donkeyoaty and nemanjasrb liked this message

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2128.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jan 2013 Fri 08:08 pm Let me recommend you a book I read recently. Yavuz Köktaş - Hadis ve Yorum. It is really a good book. nemanjasrb liked this message

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2129.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jan 2013 Fri 08:01 pm   Quoting vona     Most probably you do not know what are you talking about. I know what I talk about. You are not an hadith expert nor a good muslim with a good knowledge of the religion and faith. Yes I am not a hadith expert. Should I be one to quote an hadith? You can´t decide if I am a good or bad muslim. Only Allah can decide this. I believe I have some knowledge. The only sunnah is the sunnah of Allah. Yes and prophet teaches us that. Here is the hadith that confirms it: "Do not write down anything of me except the Quran. Whoever writes other than that should delete it" (Sahih Muslim) Here is your answer:  http://www.hafizonline.com/makale_tr/hadis/hadislerin_yazilmasi.htm As for your hadith, I do not know if it is authentic or fabricated (it must be fabricated if it´s narrated by Abu Huraira) What are your proofs?, but let´s say it is authentic..    اذكروا  موتاكم   بخير  - (remember-your deads- with benevolence) = ölülerinizi hayırla yâd ediniz - talk good things of your deads     The part you translated as "your deceaseds" is "mevtakum" and indicates the dead people only you knew personally. I don´t think you are allowed to talk after a person because you don´t know him presonally. Talking after a person is not a good behavor. Not talking bad things of your deceased father, mother, aunt, uncle, et cetera, is understandable but why should we do the same with all the others? It is an ethical value. Why should I pretend to like them just because they are dead? If they did not want my respect in life, they aint gonna get it now. Hadith doesn´t say you should respect them. Should not we talk bad things also about those evil men like Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Stalin and many others just because they are dead?  I don´t think this hadith includes blasphemers(kafir).    How could you explain this "according to your universal islamic ethical values"? Easily     Wow vona you impressed me. At least your questions were decent. I answered your questions only for this time. Don´t ask me more about theological issues because I quoted a hadith. I will not answer these kind of questions.(I can but I won´t) As you say I am not an expert and I can make mistakes   Edited (1/25/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/25/2013) by gokuyum nemanjasrb liked this message

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2130.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jan 2013 Fri 03:04 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb     I have no idea. My friend sent me this on Facebook,and she told me to translate it for her... Neden?   Nemenja. There are incoherencies in text.

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2131.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jan 2013 Fri 02:52 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb bu evliligi samimiyetsizlik,saygisizlik,guven duygusunun yitirilmesi bitirir,ayriligimiz kolay olmaz gibi geliyor,ofkeleniyor iliski insanlarin gozune soktugumuzu dusununeler varsa eger bilsinler ki bu bizim cabamiz degil,ibrahim ayrildiginiz yolunda haber siz yarattigi ruh hali ne oldu,yeni bir seyin bir duygunun pesinden kosma arzusu gibi o ruh durumu siz de varmis gibi hissettim Please,this is for my friend.     Is this the original text? Or a translation attempt?

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2132.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jan 2013 Fri 11:13 am Actually there is no such a saying in Turkish: "Kalbime taş koyarım" I will put a stone in my heart. There is this saying:  "Bağrıma taş basarım" I will embrace a stone

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2133.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jan 2013 Fri 11:04 am   Quoting Abla Quote: nessah Bir kişinin gerçek karakterini, o kişinin asla bulunamayacağını bildiği bir durumda ne yaptığına bakarak öğrenebilirsiniz.     My Try Not Quite Sure:   You can learn a person´s true character when you look at what she does in a situation which she knows she was never supposed to end up in.   Edited (1/25/2013) by gokuyum nessah liked this message

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2134.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jan 2013 Fri 10:59 am   Quoting ayse-eski I wanted you to understand me 100% so I got it translated. You are very optimist. nemanjasrb and Etty liked this message

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2135.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jan 2013 Fri 10:57 am   Quoting AlphaF     Adamın devletin parasını çaldığı - en iyi ihtimalle çalınmasına göz yumduğu veya alet olduğu - mahkeme kararı ile  tesbit edilmiş. Ölünce " Allah rahmet eylesin" de ve sus,,,arkasından yalakalık etmeye, işin içine din, peygamber, hadis karıştırmaya gerek yok. Cahil yalakalığından vazgeç. Kendini gözünde büyütme. Benim anlayamayacağım bir şey söylemeye senin kapasiten yetmez. Ölmüş birisinin yaptığı iyilikleri anmak, kötülükleri anmamak genel bir prensip. Seremoniyle falan da ilgisi yok. Bu kimseyi günahlarından da arıtmaz. İnaçlı bir insan olarak onun şimdi zaten ilahi mahkemenin huzurunda olduğuna ve hesaba çekildiğine inanıyorum. Sen hesaba çekildiğine inanmıyorsan onu istediğin kadar suçla eline ne geçecek?  Ben kimseye yalakalık da etmiyorum. Sanki yalakalık edince elime birşey geçecek. Ayrıca bazı siyasi görüşlerine katılmadığımı da söyledim. Mütevazi olmak bir erdemdir. Sizin bu cahilane bilgiçliğiniz beni çileden çıkardığı için kibire kapılıyorum. Size insanca cevap veriyorum anlamıyorsunuz. Sıkıştı mı üslubu da aşağı çekiyorsunuz. Bunlar beni tahrik etmiş olabilir. Sen de pek mütevazi değisin. Son cümlen bunu gösteriyor. Çuvaldızı kendine iğneyi başkasına batır.     harp00n liked this message

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2136.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jan 2013 Fri 12:43 am   Quoting nessah thanks gokuyum, what does "put a stone in my heart" means?     It means to endure someone´s absence. nessah liked this message

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2137.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jan 2013 Thu 11:06 pm   Quoting nessah ne yapmami istiyorsan söyle onu yapayim benden rahatsizlik duyuyorsan bana cok acik söyleki beni rahatsiz etme ve eger sende mutlu olacaksan ben senin mutlulugun icin kendimi unutur seni hic bir zaman rahatsiz etmem ve eger ben senin mutlulugunun önünde bir engelsem kalbime tas koyar senin mutlu olman icin seni rahat birakirim. burdan senin icin yapabileceklerim bunlar ama disarda olsaydim senin icin daha guzel seyler yapabilirdim buna inan.   Tell me what you want me to do and I will do it. If I disturb you please say it clearly so don´t disturb me(?). And if it will make you happy, I will forget myself for the sake of your happiness and I will never disturb you. And if I am an obstacle in your way to happiness, I will put stone in my heart and I will let you go. These are what I can do here but if I was outside I would do more beautiful things for you. Believe this.   nessah liked this message

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2138.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jan 2013 Thu 10:54 pm   Quoting nessah i wasnt waiting for ur help this time gokuyum cuz i thought this text would be too much for u too long cuz u are tired of translations but....u do it anyway dont u..   It is on the edge Lets see what I can do.   nessah liked this message

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2139.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jan 2013 Thu 10:50 pm   Quoting deli oh that dosent sound good must be a gash translation then   Deli Nessah can´t do without my touch on the translation nessah liked this message

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2140.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jan 2013 Thu 10:47 pm 1)Eylen Yolcum: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urjsowI5R7A   Please someone kill me right this moment. It is so beatiful.   Eylen yolcum  Rest passenger Eylen yolcum eylen bir su vereyim,  Susuz çöller aşmadınmı yaralı,  Hüseyin cemali vardır yüzünde,   Beni mahrum etme dost ellerinden,şah yollarından    Rest passenger, rest. Let me give you some water. Didn´t you cross deserts wounded and thirsty? You have the beauty of Huseyin(1) on your face. Don´t deprive me of friend´s lands, the roads of Shah(2)   Bende ayrı düştüm sevdiklerimden, Ok yedim zamane yezitlerinden,  Dileğim var kerbelanın gülünden,  Beni mahrum etme dost ellerinden,şah ellerinden    I am seperated too from my friends I was hit by arrows of today´s Yezids(3) I have a wish from Kerbela´s rose(4) Don´t deprive me of friend´s lands, the roads of Shah(2)     Sensin Zeynel canım kabe dediği,  Sana gelen oklar sinemi deldi,  Bak bende susuzum o günden beri,  Beni mahrum etme dost ellerinden,şah yollarından.   You are Zeynel(5), who my heart calls Kaaba(6) The arrows hit you pierced my chest Look, I have been thirsty too since that day Don´t deprive me of friend´s lands, the roads of Shah(2)     1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hussein_ibn_Ali 2.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali 3.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yazid_I 4.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerbela#Battle_of_Karbala 5.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_ibn_al-Husayn_Zayn_al-%27Abidin 6.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ka%27ba Edited (1/24/2013) by gokuyum Edited (3/29/2013) by gokuyum Edited (3/29/2013) by gokuyum Edited (3/29/2013) by gokuyum Edited (3/29/2013) by gokuyum Edited (3/29/2013) by gokuyum Edited (4/1/2013) by gokuyum Edited (4/1/2013) by gokuyum kindah, Turkish Lady, Nidi , ikibir, trip and 3 others liked this message

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2141.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jan 2013 Thu 10:37 pm   Quoting nessah ne yapmami istiyorsan söyle onu yapayim benden rahatsizlik duyuyorsan bana cok acik söyleki beni rahatsiz etme ve eger sende mutlu olacaksan ben senin mutlulugun icin kendimi unutur seni hic bir zaman rahatsiz etmem ve eger ben senin mutlulugunun önünde bir engelsem kalbime tas koyar senin mutlu olman icin seni rahat birakirim. burdan senin icin yapabileceklerim bunlar ama disarda olsaydim senin icin daha guzel seyler yapabilirdim buna inan.   Nessah you wait for me? I am little dizy. I will look at it later.

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2142.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jan 2013 Thu 10:21 pm   Quoting deli I will apply for turkish citizenship   We need more crazies Please apply soon.

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2143.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jan 2013 Thu 07:52 pm   Quoting elenagabriela     but there is my own version...I dont know if is good or bad, I tried to translate from turkish into romanian, then put  again in english in my poetic version.. It is not an underline translation too. I am lazy If you edit it, I can make some corrections

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2144.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jan 2013 Thu 04:50 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb     Gerek yok. I put it because I saw that elenagabriela also put some song. It´s because of corrections.  The translation is OK,she send me in PM some link where I found it.I just copy/paste.    Okay then nema nemanjasrb liked this message

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2145.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jan 2013 Thu 04:46 pm (sorry accents don´t work) ... Bu sirada masmavi bir gezegenin icine girdik. meanwhie we entered a deep blue planet   Lya "Cocuklar," dedi, "Genc ve sicak gezegende bulunuyorsunuz. "look children" lya said " we are setting foot on? a young and hot and hot planet (you are now on a young and hot planet)   Yildizlarin mavi ve beyaz olani cok sicaktir. the stars that are blue and white are very hot   Portakal rengi ve kirmizi yildizlar cok soguktur. the orange and red stars are very cold   Az sonra mavi yildiza inecegiz. soon we will land on a blue star   Sicaktan korunmak icin su dugmegeye basin, icinden elbiseler cikacak." in order to be protected from the heat press that botton, suits will come out from inside   Cok heyecanlanmistik. Filmlerdeki uzay adamlarina benzeyecegimizi dusunuyordum. we had become very excited, I was thinking we would be similar to asrotuants from flims   Dugmeye bastik. Acik mavi elbiseler cikti. Hemen giyindik. Ince kumastan olusan  we pressed the button,light blue clothes appeared we got dressed right away,(these suits)  from the thin material bu elbiseler oldukca serinleticiydi. (these siuts) were somewhat cooling   Mavi yildizin nasil oldugunu merak ediyordum. I was curious how the blue star would be   Arkadaslarim da merak icindeydi. Ucan gemi sessizce inise gecti.  and this curiousity was also  in my friends. Flying ship started to land silently. Merdiven disariya uzandi . Evet, mavi yildiza inmistik.  the stairs extended to the outside, yes we had landed on a blue star basima liked this message

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2146.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jan 2013 Thu 04:30 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb Bizi tanıyan herkes bilir Senle ben eskiden beri Hiç derdimiz olmadan büyümüştük yanyana Hani çok sevdiğin o filmi gördükten sonra Kısacık kestirip saçlarını içtin ilk sigaranı Oh, Papatya Yüzümün haline bak Seninle kim kalacak Işıklar kapanınca Benden çok uzakta Oh, Papatya Son bir defa bana bak Seninle kim kalacak Işıklar kapanınca Buradan çok uzakta Zaman mı değişti yoksa ben mi Geride kaldı o günler Aklım belli karışmış Yüzümde gölgeler Senin için saklayıp, sana getirip Anlattığım her şey Artık çok boş geliyor Yalan tüm kelimeler   Şimdi o günlere dönüp Seni düşündüğüm anlarda Hala üstümde kokun Sesin kulaklarımda --------------------------------------------- Everyone that knows us knows You and me since of old We had grown up side by side free from care Remember, after seeing that movie you liked so much You got a really short hair cut and smoked your first cigarette Oh, daisy Take a look at the look on my face Who is going to stay with you When the lights go out So far away from me Oh, daisy Look at me for one last time Who is going to stay with you When the lights go out So far away from here Has the time changed or maybe I myself Those days remained in the past It´s obvious that my mind got confused Shadows on my face Everything that I saved for you, brought to you And told you about Seems very meaningless to me now All the words are nothing but lies Now, at those moments when I go back To those old days and think of you Your scent is still on me Your voice in my ears     Nema if you want my help, please write your translations under each line I am so lazy to look up and down again and again

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2147.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jan 2013 Thu 04:28 pm   Quoting vona     Nasıl (how) olduğum konusunda 1 doğru Nasıl birisi (what type of person)olduğum konusunda 2 doğru   Aren´t both of them possible vona if you look at the sentence?

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2148.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jan 2013 Thu 03:30 pm   Quoting AlphaF Only idiots need to read Hadith, to decide whether a few hundred people gathered in a funeral can absolve a man convicted of his misdeeds, by shouting "İyi bilirim", when imam asks "merhumu nasıl bilirdiniz ?" What has happened to rights of orphans about to be evaporated in that affair? WHAT DOES HADITH SAY ABOUT THAT ? Read the related court orders and sum up the money embezzled; amazing ! Islam is not what you are talking about. We have a communication problem my friend. You don´t understand what I say.

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2149.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jan 2013 Thu 03:02 pm   Quoting AlphaF     Calling deceased people to be "good" in funeral prayers is only a ritual and should be understood as such. Such ceremonies do not clean up legal court rulings or criminal records. You have no point to prove; using religious examples or not. Leave it at the ceremony that it is. Avoid misleading moslems with false statements. Ceremony? Lol. Read the hadith again.

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2150.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jan 2013 Thu 02:56 pm Yahu sizin dilinizden ne ölü ne diri kurtulabiliyor. Kendisini savunamayacak durumda olan bir kişinin arkasından konuşmak bana göre yakışık almaz. Size göre alıyorsa o sizin bileceğiniz iş. Bunu eleştirebilirim ama size zorla kendi fikrimi kabul ettiremem. Edited (1/24/2013) by gokuyum stumpy liked this message

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2151.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jan 2013 Thu 02:45 pm   Quoting AlphaF I dont mind keeping quiet about misdeeds of someone who is already passed away, until someone else tries to make me agree that he was one of god´s marvellous perfect creations, and gives me religious examples to prove his point. I just can not take bulshit !   http://sozcu.com.tr/mehmet-ali-birand-hirsiz-mi.html     Nobody tries to make you agree by force. You are free. I can give religious examples to prove my point. You can give your own examples.

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2152.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jan 2013 Thu 12:49 am   Quoting ikicihan no hurry, calm down, slow down, relax, let it flow...   Hyperactivity doesn´t let me

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2153.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jan 2013 Thu 12:43 am   Quoting ikicihan i think of 1001 messages for retirement but i couldnt decided yet. 1001 Nights tales? Involve in a discussion if you are in a rush

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2154.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jan 2013 Thu 12:40 am   Quoting Abla       My Bite:       You can bite but not chew It is so long. nemanjasrb liked this message

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2155.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jan 2013 Thu 12:39 am   Quoting ikicihan     Her fırsat kollanır ve bulununca îtinâ ile değerlendirilir! i couldnt make it in ingliş   Polemiksiz hedefe varılmaz

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2156.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jan 2013 Thu 12:05 am   Quoting nemanjasrb     Thank´s a lot gokuyum. Sorry because of my poor Turkish.   Don´t be sorry. You can only learn from your mistakes. Keep going. I will help you. Kapiş?   nemanjasrb liked this message

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2157.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jan 2013 Thu 12:03 am Wait 6666 I am coming soon

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2158.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Jan 2013 Wed 11:57 pm I am that teacher nifrtity and nemanjasrb liked this message

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2159.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Jan 2013 Wed 11:55 pm   Quoting elifce     I didn`t accuse you of "speaking without a basis". I just told you that your islamic ethical values can`t be universal if they don`t apply to everyone in this universe, which they don`t. But I think you don`t have enough capacity to understand that so there is no point in arguing with you. Bye.     If you didn´t accuse me of speaking without a basis please tell me what does this "according to you" mean in your sentence: According to you or is there a set of universal ethical laws that I don´t know of?   I don´t try to apply my Islamic universal ethics to everybody but if I accept them as divine I must accept them as universal too. So that is a matter of belief not science. If I don´t have enough capacity why I disgrace you again and again? You even run away because of this   Edited (1/23/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/24/2013) by gokuyum

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2160.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Jan 2013 Wed 11:49 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb A CHRISTMAS CAROL PART VI The last spirit was Ghost of Christmas Future.He showed Scrooge Christmas in the future-and it was a terrible future.Tiny Tim was dead,because his parrent couldn´t afford medicine for him.The Cratchits were heart-broken and Bob was crying.Someone else was dead too,but nobody cried for him.In fact,a lot of people were happy. ´Who was died?´,asked Scrooge. The spirit said nothing,but he took Scrooge to a cemetery. ´Why have you brought me here?´,he asked. Again,the spirit said nothing.He just pointed to the dead man´s grave. Son ruh Gelecek Noel´in hayaletiydi.O Scrooge´a gelecekteki Noeli gösterdi-ve gelecek korkunçtu.Tiny Tim ölmüştü çünkü onların ebeyvenleri  onun için ilaçları için güç yetirememiştiler.Chratchitler dertliydiler ve Bob ağlıyordu.Başkası da ölmüştü de,ama onun için kimse ağlamadı.Aslında,birçok insan mutluydu. ´Kim ölmüş?´,Scrooge diye sordu Scrooge.Ruh birşey söylemedi,ama Scrooge´u mezarlığa götürdü.  ´Neden beni buraya götürdün?´,Scrooge diye sordu Scrooge.Yine,Scrooge hayalet birşey söylemedi. Sadece ölen bir adamın mezarını işaret etti.Üzerinde bir isim oldu vardı: Ebenezer Scrooge.     nemanjasrb liked this message

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2161.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Jan 2013 Wed 11:37 pm I am so sick of simple minded Turkish orientalists.

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2162.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Jan 2013 Wed 11:33 pm   Quoting elifce     So if I`m not a muslim, it`s a problem? Then you will ask why they call you islamofascists. Lol. So you understood that from this sentence "If you don´t know or accept them, it is your problem." Should I explain everything word by word for you? This sentence means it doesn´t matter if you don´t know  Islamic ethical values or don´t accept them as universal ethical values. As long as I accept(like other muslims) them you can´t blame me speaking without a basis.    Kapiş?    Edited (1/23/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/23/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/23/2013) by gokuyum

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2163.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Jan 2013 Wed 09:11 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb     Teşekkür ederim,gokuyum,ellerine sağlık. It seems like I ate N in verb hoşlamak. Don´t eat too much N. Try some M. They are delicious   nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

2164.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Jan 2013 Wed 08:48 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb A CHRISTMAS CAROL V PART Gradually he lost all his friends. Belle married someone else,and Scrooge became a mean,lonely old man. Scrooge didn´t enjoy seeing all this. The second visitor was the Ghost of Christmas Present.He took Scrooge to see Bob Cratchit and his family.They were very poor,because Scrooge didn´t pay Bob very much.They only had a very small chicken for Christmas dinner,but they were laughing and smiling-even Tiny Tim,who was very sick and weak.Scrooge felt ashamed.The Cratchits were enjoying Christmas even thought they were poor.He had lots of money,but he was mean and unhappy. Yavaş yavaş tüm arkadaşlarını kaybetti.Belle başka biriyle evlendi ve Scrooge kötü,yalnız yaşlı bir adam oldu.Scrooge tüm bunları görmekten hoşlanmadı. İkinci ziyaretçi Şimdiki Noel´in hayaletiydi.Bob Cratchit´i ve onun ailesini görmesi için Scrooge´u aldı.Scrooge Bob´a çok pek ödemediğinden onlar çok yoksuldu[Onlar çok yoksuldu çünkü Scrooge Bob´a çok pek ödemediyordu.*] Onların Noel akşam yemeği için sadece küçük bir tavuğu vardı,ama gülüp gülümsüyorlardı-hasta ve zayıf olan Tiny Tim bile de.Scrooge utandı.Onların yoksul olmalarına rağmen Cratchitler Noelden keyif alıyorlardı.Parası Onun çok parası vardı ama kötüydü ve mutsuzdu. *I use the both,just for practicing . PS:Which of them you prefer to use?      nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: Mehmet Ali Birand

2165.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Jan 2013 Wed 08:02 pm   Quoting elifce     According to you or is there a set of universal ethical laws that I don´t know of?   There are some Islamic ethical values. In this hadith you can see one of them: ´´Ölülerinizin iyiliklerini anınız, kötülüklerini anmayınız." (Tirmizi) Mention good deeds of your deceaseds, do not mention their bad deeds. Muslims accept Islamic ethical values as universal. So according to Muslims there is a set of universal ethical laws. If you don´t know or accept them, it is your problem. I am expressing my thoughts according to this Islamic values not according to me.     Edited (1/23/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/23/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/23/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: nasıl olduğunu

2166.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Jan 2013 Wed 06:31 pm   Quoting elinet   Nasil Oldugunu konusunda hangisi dogru?   1- Bugun ben iyiyim, kendimi mutlu hissediyorum 2- Ben iyi bir insanim, icim guzel.     Both of them are possible. We can´t be sure. nifrtity, Donkeyoaty, basima and elinet liked this message

Thread: short eng to tur please - thank you

2167.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Jan 2013 Wed 06:28 pm   Quoting gokuyum     Bana iyi ve saygılı davrandığına inandığını ve incinmem ya da kızmam gereken birşey olmadığını düşündüğünü düşünmek beni korkutuyor. This translation is like a puzzle I hope he can understand

Thread: Mehmet Ali Birand

2168.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Jan 2013 Wed 06:26 pm   Quoting elifce     You think that it wasn´t needed and I think that it was needed. The difference is clear. Yes and the difference is also ethically big.

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

2169.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Jan 2013 Wed 06:23 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb     Thank´s for correcting me,vona.  I appreciate it. I thought it´s gonna be my best try in translating,but it was the worse. It was one step forward every time and now is 5 steps back.   I thought vona only wrote in Turkish language discussion threads. She suprised me nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: Once Upon a Time in Anatolia’ Nuri Bilge Ceylan’s masterpiece

2170.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Jan 2013 Wed 06:18 pm   Quoting Abla   That is often the problem with humanists. They have more compassion on the abuser than the victim.   Aren´t we all victims?

Thread: nasıl olduğunu

2171.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Jan 2013 Wed 06:17 pm   Quoting elinet Merhaba;   Bu cumle ne demek? Please Translate it to english.   Herkes senin nasıl göründüğünü bilir ama çok az insan nasıl olduğunu hisseder.   tesekkurler Everbody knows how you look like but a few people sense how you are.   nifrtity, basima and elinet liked this message

Thread: Mehmet Ali Birand

2172.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Jan 2013 Wed 06:15 pm   Quoting elifce     Anyone is free to say what they want to say as long as it doesn´t involve swearings. I didn´t say you were not free, I said it was not needed. I hope you understand the difference.

Thread: Mehmet Ali Birand

2173.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Jan 2013 Wed 05:17 pm   Quoting elifce Too bad that he is gone without being able to enjoy the fortune he has made thank to AKP.   That is harsh elifce. He is now in the presence of divine judgement. There is no need to say anything more.

Thread: T to e short

2174.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Jan 2013 Wed 01:23 am   Quoting insallah     He is trying to get to his goal of 6666 quicker Lol. You read my mind Also endless discussions (remember the one about puricification) help me to reach my goal   Edited (1/23/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/23/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Once Upon a Time in Anatolia’ Nuri Bilge Ceylan’s masterpiece

2175.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Jan 2013 Wed 01:17 am   Quoting Abla     I think a person capable of an execution like the one described in this movie cannot be anyone´s father ever.   You Turks have a great understanding for passion. I cannot say that I have. That is why the doctor´s decision challenged me and I thought there must have been something I hadn´t understood. Well making someone think adds to the merits of the movie.   Thank you for your help, gokuyum. I think doctor is a humanist. Murderer was really upset and he was really regretful.  So maybe this effected doctor´s decision.

Thread: Once Upon a Time in Anatolia’ Nuri Bilge Ceylan’s masterpiece

2176.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jan 2013 Tue 11:45 pm   Quoting Abla This is how modern crime stories are. The crime is not the issue itself but the background which enlightens some features in our societies.   What I liked about this movie was the ominous atmosphere. Maybe it comes from things that are not said loud, maybe from the endless steppe where every place looks the same. Children suffer from their fathers´ mistakes and every human being is adrift by his destiny just like an apple falls from the tree and rolls down the hill to the brook. Or an empty canister is thrown around by the stormy wind.   My favourite actor in this movie was Yılmaz Erdoğan as komiser Naci. His presence is so strong in every scene. At the place of the grave he turns out to be the most sensitive member of the team.   My kind of movie. But so difficult language. His sensitiveness is so typical.

Thread: Once Upon a Time in Anatolia’ Nuri Bilge Ceylan’s masterpiece

2177.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jan 2013 Tue 11:42 pm   Quoting Abla     After you do come back and tell me why you think the doctor did not want to write down the victim´s real cause of death to the report. I missed that part.   I always dream of friends who would read the things I read and watch the things I watch. They are very hard to find. Murderer buried the victim alive(I am not sure if he was aware). Victim died of suffocation. There was dirt in his lungs. But doctor didn´t want to write the cause of dead. Because he didn´t want murderer to get more punishment. As you know murderer killed the victim after an arguement which murderer had claimed victim´s son was his son. So maybe doctor didn´t want to seperate father and son more than enough.

Thread: short eng to tur please - thank you

2178.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jan 2013 Tue 06:30 pm   Quoting maryilyons It scares me to think that you believe you treated me well, that you treated me with respect and that you think I have nothing to be hurt or angry about.    Bana iyi ve saygılı davrandığına inandığını ve incinmem ya da kızmam gereken birşey olmadığını düşündüğünü düşünmek beni korkutuyor. miss007, nemanjasrb, basima and nessah liked this message

Thread: Once Upon a Time in Anatolia’ Nuri Bilge Ceylan’s masterpiece

2179.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jan 2013 Tue 05:41 pm   Quoting Abla This is how modern crime stories are. The crime is not the issue itself but the background which enlightens some features in our societies.   What I liked about this movie was the ominous atmosphere. Maybe it comes from things that are not said loud, maybe from the endless steppe where every place looks the same. Children suffer from their fathers´ mistakes and every human being is adrift by his destiny just like an apple falls from the tree and rolls down the hill to the brook. Or an empty canister thrown around by the stormy wind.   My favourite actor in this movie was Yılmaz Erdoğan as komiser Naci. His presence is so strong in every scene. At the place of the grave he turns out to be the most sensitive member of the team.   My kind of movie. But so difficult language. I want to watch it as soon as possible.

Thread: T to e short

2180.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jan 2013 Tue 04:04 pm   Quoting nessah   so what if he is a boy or girl? what has that to do with anything? :S     He deserves respect

Thread: T to e short

2181.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jan 2013 Tue 03:01 pm   Quoting nessah     but u should translate things that people already dont know, but she knew that sentence already...hhaha Well let me translate this then because you don´t know: O bir erkek. He is a boy.

Thread: T to e short

2182.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jan 2013 Tue 02:56 pm   Quoting nessah     and she also knew what it meant, so i really dont understand why u translated it? You blame me when I don´t translate and you still blame me when I translate.

Thread: TheGuardian - Turkey wages ´cultural war´

2183.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jan 2013 Tue 02:45 pm   Quoting Abla Murgan Salem al-Gohary, Egyptian jihadist, wants pyramids and sphinx destroyed.   http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/13/pyramids-sphinx-destruction-murgan-salem-al-gohary-egyptian-jihadist_n_2121446.html   Great work opportunities for the young generation. Takbir for every stone that falls. Maybe he considers them as idols people worship. That is really absurd.

Thread: T to e short

2184.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jan 2013 Tue 02:43 pm   Quoting nessah     even i could understand that sentence without have anyone translating it   But you are still happy that I translated it, right?

Thread: T to e short

2185.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jan 2013 Tue 02:29 pm   Quoting nessah   she already understood that part as u can see lol..   So you believe his word easily? I am sceptical

Thread: Finns and Hungarians...

2186.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jan 2013 Tue 02:23 pm   Quoting Abla We fought in the same side in the Great Northern War 1700-21 remember?   No I was too young

Thread: Ayvaz bu gelen bu gelen Vay bu gelen vay bu gelen

2187.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jan 2013 Tue 02:22 pm Haykirdi çikti meseden Haykirdi çikti meseden Gün tutuldu temasadan yar, yar, yar ey Hiç korkmaz beyden pasadan Hiç korkmaz beyden pasadan Ayvaz bu gelen bu gelen Vay bu gelen, vay bu gelen Hiç korkmaz beyden pasadan Ayvaz bu gelen bu gelen Vay bu gelen, vay bu gelen Arap atin üstündedir Arap atin üstündedir Ela gözler mestindedir yar, yar, yar ey Düsman canin kastindadir Düsman canin kastindadir Ayvaz bu gelen bu gelen Vay bu gelen, vay bu gelen Düsman canin kastindadir Ayvaz bu gelen bu gelen Vay bu gelen, vay bu gelen Han dönem akitma yasi Han dönem akitma yasi Yanar yüregimin basi yar, yar, yar ey Köroglu´nun kan kardasi Köroglu´nun kan kardasi Ayvaz bu gelen bu gelen Vay bu gelen, vay bu gelen Köroglu´nun kan kardasi Ayvaz bu gelen bu gelen Vay bu gelen, vay bu gelen Hiç korkmaz beyden pasadan Köroglu´nun kan kardasi Ayvaz bu gelen bu gelen Vay bu gelen, vay bu gelen

Thread: There is something wrong with the registration

2188.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jan 2013 Tue 02:19 pm   Quoting stumpy you need the decoder ring to read those mails   Come on they are not +18  Or are they?   Decoder only reminds me +18 movies nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: TheGuardian - Turkey wages ´cultural war´

2189.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jan 2013 Tue 02:15 pm I think we should have opened our arms and should have said please come and loot us more. That would be humanist.

Thread: Finns and Hungarians...

2190.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jan 2013 Tue 02:10 pm   Quoting Abla Efendim. A Finn here.    Last Finn standing in Turkish battlefield Edited (1/22/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: any corrections will be extremely appreciated:)

2191.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jan 2013 Tue 01:51 pm   Quoting deli bana düşen susmak ve bir daha ki gelisini beklemek silence that falls on me to wait for the arrival again "bana düşen" literally means "what falls to me" We can translate it as "what I should do" What I should do is to be quiet and to wait your coming.     hüzün çiçeği olsam da belli etmemek although I am a melancholy flower not to  show it gittin you left ev bomboş totally empty home home is totally empty oda sessiz silent room room is silent televizyon öksüz orphan television television is orphan bana düşen that engulfs me?  what I should do çamaşırlarını yıkayıp odanı temizleyip your clothes washed and your room cleaned is to wash your clothes, to clean your room yeniden gelene kadar until you come again dimdik beklemek to wait upright belki de annelik bu demek maybe this is what means motherhood biraz hüzün çokça özlem a little sadness missing greatly ve beklerken bile sevmek and to love even while waiting yanında iken bile özlemek missing even when with you gittin you left sitemim yok I dont blame   any corrections would be much appreciated thanks:     Edited (1/22/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: T to e short

2192.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jan 2013 Tue 01:41 pm   Quoting tristerecuerdos ne olursa olsun ben seni her zaman daha cok seviyorum. anlastikmi?"   No matter what I always love you more. Okay? Donkeyoaty liked this message

Thread: TheGuardian - Turkey wages ´cultural war´

2193.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jan 2013 Tue 12:33 pm   Quoting si++ From: here   Turkey has been accused of cultural chauvinism and attempting to blackmail some of the world´s most important museums in the wake of its demands for the return of thousands of archaeological treasures. According to cultural chiefs in Berlin, Paris and New York, Turkey has threatened to bar foreign archaeologists from excavation sites in the country by not renewing their digging permits if governments refuse to return artefacts that Ankara says were unlawfully removed from Turkish soil. It has also threatened to halt the lending of its treasures to foreign museums, they say.   Hermann Parzinger, president of the Prussian Cultural Heritage Foundation in Berlin, which among other collections oversees the city´s Pergamon Museum, has accused Turkey of "playing a nasty game of politics" and of "threatening the future" of scientific work and other collaborations. "The Turks are engaging in a rather aggressive style of politics," he said. "They are trying to blackmail us and others by pushing foreign archaeologists out. Their new tactic is to accuse us of not investing enough in the infrastructure of the digs."   Turkey is also in dispute with the Louvre in Paris, which has refused requests to return objects. Ankara retaliated two years ago with a ban on French archaeologists digging in Turkey. Turkish officials are also at loggerheads with the Norbert Schimmel collection at the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York over 18 objects they claim were illegally excavated, as well as with the British Museum in London over the Samsat Stele, a basalt slab from the 1st century BC. Ankara says it only wants back what rightfully belongs to Turkey. Ertugrul Gunay, culture and tourism minister, said 4,067 artefacts were returned from 2002 to 2012. He said Ankara´s demands coincided with a new-found pride in the country´s cultural heritage. "Our museum inventory is now on a par with that of European museums," he said recently. "The times when we simply exhibited artefacts in cupboards is over. We have caught up … what we have taken back is only a very small part of what we will take back." He added that over the past five years, Turkey had "spent more on history" than any other European country.   Why is it chauvinism to demand what they stole?

Thread: There is something wrong with the registration

2194.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Jan 2013 Mon 05:58 pm Some mails come empty to my mailbox.

Thread: What is your mood today?

2195.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Jan 2013 Mon 04:34 pm   Quoting nevbahar pardon?? tc kurallarını umursuyormuş gibi bir halim mi var... iyice netleştireyim bari.. hem de şu monster verblerden biriyle.. kurallarınızı reddddediyorum.. istediğiniz admini moderatörü admini çağırıp..  hakkımda istediğiniz işleme başlattırabilirsiniz.. çok da umrumdu.. pehhhhh     Nevbahar benim için kendini ateşe atma   Abla liked this message

Thread: Finns and Hungarians...

2196.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Jan 2013 Mon 11:19 am   Quoting mehmet111 Are there any Finnish or Hungarian who learn Turkish here? If there are, you can contact to me. I am learning Finnish and Hungarian, too. We may be beneficial to our each other.   There is one Finnish I know. But I am not sure if you can teach her Turkish nevbahar, nemanjasrb, Henry and Umut_Umut liked this message

Thread: Turkish is an economical language

2197.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Jan 2013 Mon 11:05 am I have started to learn English when I was 12. My English was so bad in the beginning. I even cried many times because of it. Language of education was English in my school. I even thought about leaving the school. But in one year time my English got so better. Only reason for that was I have never accepted defeat in my life. Yes I thought about it but never accepted at the end. I recommend you the same Edited (1/21/2013) by gokuyum trip liked this message

Thread: Aphorisms

2198.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Jan 2013 Sun 07:45 pm 7)From Kafka´s Aphorisms:   Kötü´nün ondan bir şeyler gizleyebileceğinize inanmanızı sağlamasına izin vermeyin.    Don´t let evil make you believe that you can hide something from it. Edited (1/20/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Aphorisms

2199.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Jan 2013 Sun 07:41 pm 6)From Kafka´s Aphorisms:     Kötü´nün elindeki en ayartıcı silah, savaşa çağrıdır. Kadınlarla yapılan savaşa benzer, ki sonu  yatakta biter.      The most tempting weapon in the hands of evil is calling to arms. This is similar to a fight with women, and it always ends in bed. Edited (1/20/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/20/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: 6666 My Retirement Day ;)

2200.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Jan 2013 Sun 07:23 pm I will retire after I send my 6666. post. But even after sending so many useless posts I see my score hasn´t even reached to 3000. I am really anxious of a leak in my post pool.   Note: It is highly possible apocalypse will happen just after my retirement. So be careful that day elenagabriela and nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: Turkish is an economical language

2201.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Jan 2013 Sun 07:15 pm So what is the speciality of Turkish except being it extremly difficult?

Thread: What is your mood today?

2202.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Jan 2013 Sun 07:11 pm   Quoting nevbahar fena..ahh be tunci   Nevbahar you stii have me And I believe tunci will come back. nevbahar and insallah liked this message

Thread: Is there any Turk who speaks Serbian?/Serb who speaks Turkish fluent.

2203.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Jan 2013 Sun 06:57 pm   Quoting elenagabriela     yes...it is very hard to learn turkish by english...as you I have started learn turkish by english and after turkish by turkish..it is a hard way, because most of time our natives dont resemble to english or turkish; but, as Abla says, dont give up..we have all the time...why not..our life is a continuous struggles, so..let`s turn that struggle to learning Turkish That is the spirit   elenagabriela and nemanjasrb liked this message

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2204.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Jan 2013 Sun 02:32 pm   Quoting Yarvik364 I´m using Rosetta Stone (no grammar explained) and they constantly use phrases such as: Lütfen mutfaktan sekiz tabak getirin. The accompanying pictures suggest that this is common language usage in Turkish (no royalty depicted here .   If this getirin adresses one person it is polite. But if it adresses more than one person it is normal. What makes it polite is lütfen.

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2205.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Jan 2013 Sun 02:29 pm   Quoting Yarvik364 Aha, I understand. Thank you. I also found something about the adjectival usage of -(y)AcAK in the Routledge Comprehensive Grammar. They talk about a "copular adjectival marker" . Yes.  Ex. yemek is a verb. If I add ecek sufix I make it an adjective. So it becomes an adjective verb. You can use an adjective verb as a noun too. Is it complicated?

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2206.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Jan 2013 Sun 12:21 pm Bir şey bilmiyorsun. You don´t know anything. (indefinite) Bir şeyi de bil. Know at least one thing. (definite)   I am not sure but   1)when we use "bir şey" as anything or something, we can´t use it with accusative. 2)when we think it as "a thing or one thing" we can use it with accusative.   I wonder what others think     Edited (1/20/2013) by gokuyum Abla and nemanjasrb liked this message

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2207.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Jan 2013 Sun 12:11 pm   Quoting Yarvik364   1. Bana yiyecek bir şey verebilir misin? 2. Bana yemeyi bir şeyi verebilir misin?     Sentence 2. is wrong, but why exactly?   Cheers, Robert   Because there is no connection between yemeyi and bir şey. And such a connection is not possible. But "yiyecek" functions as an adjactive when it is placed before "bir şey" and they have a connection because of this.

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2208.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Jan 2013 Sun 12:04 pm   Quoting Yarvik364 Hello there! Why must one say: Ona içecek bir şey veriyorum. Could one also say: Ona içecek bir şeyi veriyorum? Other example: Ben senin için her hangi bir şeyi yapmaya hazırım. Kind regards, Robert   Accusative makes the object definite. Sometimes we prefer using an indefinite object sometimes not( if verb allows us)

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2209.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Jan 2013 Sun 12:02 pm   Quoting Yarvik364 But would it sound ridiculous to say this to one´s own father, for example?   Cheers, Robert Yes. It would be except you were the son of a king   Edited (1/20/2013) by gokuyum elenagabriela and Yarvik364 liked this message

Thread: Turkish is an economical language

2210.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Jan 2013 Sun 12:01 pm   Quoting Henry     I only do English edits because I want to help    I am joking. I appriciate everybody´s help.

Thread: meye/maya and meyi/mayi

2211.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Jan 2013 Sun 11:59 am me+y+i = derivational suffix + buffer letter + accusative Ex: Ne olduğunu bilmeyi çok istiyorum.  bil - a verb root - to know bilme - a noun - the name of the action - knowing bilmeyi - the knowing (this doesnt make sense in English) Translation: I want to know what happened.   me+y+e = derivetional suffix + buffer letter + dative Ex: Ne olduğunu bilmeye ihtiyacım var Translation: I need to know what happened.   Edited (1/20/2013) by gokuyum nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: Turkish is an economical language

2212.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Jan 2013 Sun 11:49 am Why do everybody edit me?

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2213.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Jan 2013 Sun 11:47 am   Quoting Yarvik364       Lütfen is already "polite", so wouldn´t verin make the request excessively polite?        Yes. This is also very formal.

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2214.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Jan 2013 Sun 11:42 am   Quoting Yarvik364 Hello there! I am confused: içecek is a noun in this case, isn´t it? And so is bir şey. One would expect a verb somewhere.  Lütfen ona içmek bir şey verin?! Kind regards, Robert   İf you put word "içecek" before "bir şey". İçecek becomes an adjective. And there is a verb at the end of the sentence: ver-mek. elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: End of my career in forum :)

2215.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Jan 2013 Sun 06:55 am Don´t put yourself limits tunci. Brilliance doesn´t know limits. You are a good friend. I dont want to let you go. I am egoist at the end I don´t care what you think, I just know what I want. Turn back Edited (1/20/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/20/2013) by gokuyum Inscrutable , nifrtity, nemanjasrb, elenagabriela and sashk liked this message

Thread: T to E please^^

2216.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Jan 2013 Sun 06:49 am   Quoting Abla   Sometimes when I trust someone my old disappointments grab hold of my neck and whisper to my ear: "How quickly you forgot!"   Abla you have become a Turkish language monster. You scare me Edited (1/20/2013) by gokuyum archinia and nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: Turkish is an economical language

2217.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jan 2013 Sat 09:20 pm   Quoting trip Here is the perspective of an English speaker and a beginner in Turkish: I agree with Abla. In English we would not use all of these small words. Some would be implied. Not being able to make out the Turkish sentence on my own, I am sort of guessing here, but this is how I would edit Gokuyum´s sentence: Gokuyum´s: It is determined that the blue-clored object which was found on the table in the laboratory in which scientific researches are done and many scientists work, was put there by a member of an alien race which comes from an unknown planet. Mine: It has been determined that the blue object found on the table in the lab, where many scientists work and much research is done, was placed there by an alien from an unknown planet. And one more perspective: Turkish may use fewer words, but the strings of suffixes can be difficult for a beginner to sort. They sometimes look simply like a string of i´s and n´s that go on forever. They make my head spin! (But I am still working on developing a second brain.)     It is so easy why do your head spin?

Thread: Past Future Tense

2218.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jan 2013 Sat 08:45 pm   Quoting tunci     I like this word  "Hiççilik" [Nihilism] Hiççilik =  Nihilizm  =  Yokçuluk   *[I like just the word , not the doctrine itself]   Hiççi misin, yokçu mu yoksa yoğurtçu mu?   tunci liked this message

Thread: Açıklabilir mi someone plssss

2219.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jan 2013 Sat 08:39 pm   Quoting Nightingale Could Türkçe bilen one help me pls with understanding this text. By reading booklar türkçemi geliştirmeye çalışıyorum and şu anda ‘Dallar meyveye durdu’ okuyorum but here is a part that I pek iyi anlamadım.  Lol. Turkoenglish.

Thread: Translation Please :-)

2220.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jan 2013 Sat 08:35 pm   Quoting erdinc Now near you I feel like a bird my love.  What does this mean? I really don´t understand

Thread: Mehmet Ali Birand

2221.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jan 2013 Sat 08:19 pm   Quoting tunci     Remember his famous slips of tounge which always put a smile on our face.   Some of them were,   one day while presenting a news , he said ;    "madrid´in midyat ilçesinde bir süryani papaz..."   and another day , he said  " İsmail Komandaları´  instead of  " İsrail Komandoları "    another one was ; yayınımızda bugün "deniz zeki´yi" ağırlıyoruz.    There were so many of them. But his slips of tounge were always found sympathetic by people. Mekanı cennet olsun.     Bazı siyasi görüşlerine katılmasam da sevimli bir adamdı. Dil sürçmeleri gerçekten ona daha bir sempatiklik katıyordu. Ayrıca iyi bir Galatasaraylı´ydı. Böyle hayat dolu bir insanın birdenbire yitip gitmesi insanı gerçekten sarsıyor.   tunci liked this message

Thread: Past Future Tense

2222.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jan 2013 Sat 07:59 pm   Quoting Abla     Well it has some fifty negative meanings as an independent word, from none to never.   hiç can be used with positive predicates  -  in questions:                                   Hiç parasütle atladın mı?   I have thought of hiç as an emphasizing word which strongly gravitates to negative environments. So strongly that it hardly has any use in affirmative sentences. (The pronoun kimse also likes to go where the light is red.)   In the sentence above I think hiç is there to make the sentence more polite: it gives the listener a chance to answer no without losing his face. But this is just a guess and Turks know better.   Then let me improve my theory: It has a positive meaning when it is an adverb. Objections?

Thread: Mehmet Ali Birand

2223.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jan 2013 Sat 07:29 pm I have a DVD of his documentary of Galatasaray´s Unforgettable Matches. It is really great. I really appreciated his enthuism of doing so many documentaries about many different issues.

Thread: Turkish is an economical language

2224.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jan 2013 Sat 07:22 pm , Edited (1/19/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: what does this means pls?

2225.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jan 2013 Sat 03:02 pm   Quoting nessah     thanks gokuyum i knew that u would reply me first   Of course, I am a gentleman Edited (1/19/2013) by gokuyum HaNNo, basima and nessah liked this message

Thread: what does this means pls?

2226.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jan 2013 Sat 02:43 pm   Quoting nessah     Bir ömür boyu seninleyim desen de istemem artık. Çünkü sen rüzgarın çosturdugu bir toz bulutusun, bugün bana esersin ...yarın başka ellere.   AŞKIN İLK SOLUĞU MANTIĞIN SON SOLUĞUDUR     Even if you say "I will be always with you " I don´t want anymore. Because you are a cloud of dust which wind carries away, today you blow towards me, tomorrow towards others. First breath of love is the last breath of logic. basima and nessah liked this message

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2227.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jan 2013 Sat 01:30 pm   Quoting Henry     Unfortunately my ´English trained´ brain also has problems with double negation. I would never not do that = I would always do that    I have a theory. I think "hiç" is not negative. It is positive. And it means "ever" Because: 1)It doesn´t make the sentence negative alone. 2)And it doesn´t make sense when you use it with a positive predicate.   I wait for the objections basima liked this message

Thread: Mehmet Ali Birand

2228.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jan 2013 Sat 06:57 am Allah rahmet eylesin. basima and tunci liked this message

Thread: e to t please

2229.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jan 2013 Fri 08:31 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb       From my side - Benim tarafımdan          From our side - Bizim tarafımızdan From your side - Senin tarafından        From your side - Sizin tarafınızdan From his/her side -Onun tarafından     From their side -Onların tarafından Correct me. I did       nemanjasrb liked this message

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2230.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jan 2013 Fri 08:01 pm When I use if there is always a condition. But when this condition hasn´t happened,  an unreal situation occurs. But if someone thinks the condition has happened than a real situation occurs.    etseydi - unreal situation etdiyse - real situation Edited (1/18/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/18/2013) by gokuyum nemanjasrb liked this message

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2231.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jan 2013 Fri 07:50 pm , Edited (1/18/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/18/2013) by gokuyum nemanjasrb liked this message

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2232.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jan 2013 Fri 07:44 pm   Quoting gokuyum   I think in the first sentence we don´t talk about an unreal situation. First sentence means something like this: If you think I deserved let me pass (the exam)       If I use if in this sentence, don´t I talk about a possible situation? So it can be unreal. Confusing.

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2233.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jan 2013 Fri 07:37 pm   Quoting gokuyum Hak ettiysem beni geçir. Hak etseydim beni geçirirdin.   The position of se is different and meaning is also different. Any explanation why? I think in the first sentence we don´t talk about an unreal situation. First sentence means something like this: If you think I deserved let me pass (the exam)   In the second sentence we talk about an unreal situation. If I deserved, you would make me pass (the exam)       Edited (1/18/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/18/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/18/2013) by gokuyum nemanjasrb and elenagabriela liked this message

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2234.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jan 2013 Fri 07:31 pm Why can´t we say "Hak etseydim beni geçir"?

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2235.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jan 2013 Fri 07:29 pm Hak ettiysem beni geçir. Hak etseydim beni geçirirdin.   The position of se is different and meaning is also different. Any explanation why?

Thread: TENSES

2236.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jan 2013 Fri 07:26 pm   Quoting elenagabriela     something like that daha fazla ders çalışsaydım sinavı geçecektim if I had studied more I would passed the exam

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2237.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jan 2013 Fri 07:20 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb What about this one: Olacaktım? Past in the future? I cannot understand this.. ://   It is would. Read henry´s post. nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: CONDITIONAL FROM TEST 40

2238.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jan 2013 Fri 07:17 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb     Thank´s. I´m really happy because of that   Lol. It doesnt mean I am correct   nemanjasrb liked this message

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2239.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jan 2013 Fri 07:14 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb I didn´t know that also we could use mutlu olmayacaktım.. What is the difference between olmazdım and olmayacaktım? Or maybe there is no?     There is no difference for me. nemanjasrb liked this message

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2240.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jan 2013 Fri 07:05 pm   Quoting aleksej       Ok, thank you gokuyum. So, negation in the conditional tense "I would NOT be happy" is Mutlu olmayacaktım (Mutlu olmazdım) ?   Yes. aleksej liked this message

Thread: What does this mean please?

2241.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jan 2013 Fri 06:46 pm   Quoting kay05 (Please could someone translate? It´s from someone very dear to me, and I need to send him an SMS back, but I don´t know what this message means that he sent me. Many many thanks in advance): ASKINLA DOLUP TASAN BIR ("v") ´v´ KALBIM VAR. DiKKAT ET PATLAYABiLiR: 00:03 00:02 00:01 (((((BOOM))))) SENi SEVIYORUM gulum Meh

Thread: böyle vs. böylece

2242.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jan 2013 Fri 06:24 pm   Quoting AlphaF     Or crippled.......   generally makes you crazy

Thread: A crazy question ...

2243.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jan 2013 Fri 06:21 pm   Quoting trip Thank you for the article, Ikicihan. And thank you for the translation, Gokuyum. No wonder the Turks here are so good with English. They need only one brain for that!     That also explains why my head is so big elenagabriela liked this message

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2244.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jan 2013 Fri 05:36 pm   Quoting nessah     thats really nice to know. it prooves what kind of person u are. well im extremly ugly and stupid. so we will never get along. that´s it. Well you are honest. Don´t worry I will help you. I love honesty. You can ask me directly if you don´t understand something about Turkish. I like you   nessah liked this message

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2245.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jan 2013 Fri 05:30 pm   Quoting nessah     I can help you with english/swedish and i can help you practise your attitude   Everbody helps me with my English and I am not interested in learning Swedish. You can´t change my attitude. I am simply crazy If you are smart and beautiful, I can be more friendly. That is it elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: Quotation from E to T plz :))

2246.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jan 2013 Fri 05:24 pm   Quoting nessah     you are the lucky one     Why? I can help you with Turkish. What can you do for me?

Thread: Quotation from E to T plz :))

2247.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jan 2013 Fri 05:22 pm   Quoting nessah   why am i not surprised   Don´t be suprised just consider yourself lucky

Thread: Quotation from E to T plz :))

2248.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jan 2013 Fri 05:20 pm   Quoting nessah   i dont believe that u think i was a man but okey. best friends forever     I have a weakness for women elenagabriela liked this message

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2249.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jan 2013 Fri 05:17 pm   Quoting nessah i knew u wouldnt help me, u have hated me from the beginning   I thought you were a man but I see you are a woman. As a gentleman I don´t want to behave rude to a woman. So lets make peace

Thread: Quotation from E to T plz :))

2250.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jan 2013 Fri 05:09 pm   Quoting nessah i thought gokuyum was a girl. thanks!! i guess the text wasnt too long this time   Nessah I helped nemenja not you (at least not directly)   Edited (1/18/2013) by gokuyum basima liked this message

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2251.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jan 2013 Fri 05:03 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb   MY TRY: Onun hayatı bir karmaşa olduğunda kadına her adam ihtiyaçı var,çünkü satrançta gibi;kraliçe kralı korur. This is just try,I just wanna practise. This is NOT correct.   It is really a good attempt.   Her erkeğin hayatı karmaşaya döndüğünde bir kadına ihtiyacı vardır çünkü satrançta olduğu gibi kraliçe kralı korur.   basima, nemanjasrb and nessah liked this message

Thread: Turkish is an economical language

2252.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jan 2013 Fri 04:52 pm   Quoting si++     I would count the number of syllables instead of words. English, French etc. may make use of more separate words but usually they are short (monosyllable) words.   Ankara´ya gitmemeli idiniz: 12 syllables   You should not have gone to Ankara: 9 syllables Vous n´arisez pas du alle a Ankara: 10 syllables   Seni seviyorum: 6 I love you: 3 Je t´aime: 2   etc.   Bilimsel araştırmaların yapıldığı ve birçok bilim adamının çalıştığı labaratuarda bulunan masanın üstündeki mavi renkli objenin bilinmeyen bir gezegenden gelen uzaylı bir ırkın üyesi tarafından oraya konulduğu tespit edildi.   It is determined that the blue-clored object which was found on the table in the laboratory in which scientific researches are done and many scientists work, was put there by a member of an alien race which comes from an unknown planet.   My problem with English is when I want to translate a long Turkish sentence like this one in one English sentence I use so many "whichs" and "verbs"  so I easily lose my way.  It is same when I read a long English sentence like this. The question should be this "Which language is semanticaly economic?" Edited (1/18/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/18/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/18/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/18/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Turkish Folk Poetry

2253.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Jan 2013 Thu 06:19 pm ,   Edited (1/17/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Turkish Folk Poetry

2254.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Jan 2013 Thu 06:10 pm   Quoting elenagabriela sacrifice maybe...   It can be many things. Maybe it symbolises our ego. It is not easy to get rid of it elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: Turkish Folk Poetry

2255.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Jan 2013 Thu 06:01 pm   Quoting elenagabriela deep and misterious meanings....bence...   Exactly. Maybe the hardships of sufi way are told. Goose symbolises something.

Thread: Turkish Folk Poetry

2256.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Jan 2013 Thu 02:55 pm This poem is a şathiye. Şathiye is a kind of folk poem. They are funny and absurd but they also tell some secrets of sufism in a metaforical way.       Bir Kaz Aldım I Bought A Goose Bir kaz aldım ben karıdan  Boynu da uzun borudan  Kırk abdal kanın kurudan  Kırk gün oldu kaynadırım kaynamaz  I bought a goose from a woman Its neck is taller than pipe It dries 40 dervishes´ blood For 40 days I have boiled it, it hasn´t got boiled Sekizimiz odun çeker  Dokuzumuz ateş yakar  Kaz kaldırmış başın bakar  Kırk gün oldu kaynadırım kaynamaz  Eight of us carry wood Nine of us make a fire. Goose looks at us lifting up its head For 40 days I have boiled it, it hasn´t got boiled Kaza verdik birkaç akça  Eti kemiğinden pekçe  Ne kazan kaldı ne kepçe  Kırk gün oldu kaynadırım kaynamaz  We gave a few coins for goose Its flesh is more than its bones No caldron, no ladle has remained For 40 days I have boiled it, it hasn´t got boiled Kaz değilmiş be bu azmış  Kırk yıl kaf dağını gezmiş  Kanadın kuyruğun düzmüş  Kırk gün oldu kaynadırım kaynamaz  This is not a goose, it is crazy It wandered around Kaf mountain 40 years It prepared its wings and tail For 40 days I have boiled it, it hasn´t got boiled Kazı koyduk bir ocağa  Uçtu gitti bir bucağa  Bu ne haldir hacı aga  Kırk gün oldu kaynadırım kaynamaz  We put goose on a stove It flied away to another side What is this situation Hacı Aga? For 40 days I have boiled it, it hasn´t got boiled Kazımın kanadı selki  Dişii koyun emmiş tilki  Nuh Nebi´den kalmış belki  Kırk gün oldu kaynadırım kaynamaz  My goose´s wing is selki It is like a fox sucked an ewe Maybe it has remained since Noah For 40 days I have boiled it, it hasn´t got boiled Kazımın kanadı sarı  Kemiği etinden iri  Sağlık ile satma karı  Kırk gün oldu kaynadırım kaynamaz  My goose´s wing is yellow Its bone is bigger than its flesh O woman may you not sell again enjoying good health For 40 days I have boiled it, it hasn´t got boiled Kazımın kanadı ala  Var yürü git güle güle  Başımıza kalma bela  Kırk gün oldu kaynadırım kaynamaz  My goose´s wing is red Go away good bye Don´t be a trouble anymore For 40 days I have boiled it, it hasn´t got boiled Suyuna biz saldık bulgur  Bulgur Allah deyü kalgır  Be yarenler bu ne haldir  Kırk gün oldu kaynadırım kaynamaz  We put rice in its water Rice flied out saying Allah O dervishes! What kind of sitiuation is this? For 40 days I have boiled it, it hasn´t got boiled Kaygusuz Abdal n´idelim  Ahd ile vefa güdelim  Kaldırıp postu gidelim  Kırk gün oldu kaynadırım kaynamaz What shall we do Kaygusuz Abdal? Lets keep our promise Lets go taking the coat For 40 days I have boiled it, it hasn´t got boiled     Kaygusuz Abdal Edited (1/17/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/17/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/17/2013) by gokuyum elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: THE NEW TRANSLATION LOUNGE ( 2013-.....)

2257.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Jan 2013 Thu 02:28 pm   Quoting og2009 Öyle anlaşılıyor ki, bazı eski değerli arkadaşlar ayrılmış ya da uzaklaşmış, ve bu eski arkadaşların yerlerine yeni arkadaşlar gelmişler.   Hocam benim adı penbe yazar mısın? Bu aralar çok trend bilin mi?

Thread: A crazy question ...

2258.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Jan 2013 Thu 12:40 pm   Quoting deli ha ha I wss thinking on those same lines, but didnt want to seem rude   Of course it would be rude bacause you are a foreigner And don´t forget it is only a joke basima liked this message

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2259.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Jan 2013 Thu 12:29 pm   Quoting deli Mind blowing ya   We think a lot but do nothing basima liked this message

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2260.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Jan 2013 Thu 12:17 pm   Quoting ikicihan Türkçe anlamak ‘2’ beyin istiyor Understanding Turkish requires 2 brains. ODTÜ bünyesinde kurulan Beyin Dil Araştırmaları Laboratuvarı’nda, diller üzerine yapılan araştırmada, beynin Türkçe cümleleri anlamak için, 2 kez işlem yapması gerektiği ortaya çıkarıldı. In the lab of Brain Language Researches which is founded in METU it is found that brain has to do 2 processes in order to understand Turkish sentences. Doç. Dr. Gülay Ediboğlu-Cedden, Türkiye’de ilk kez sağlıklı bireyler üzerinde anadili araştırması yaptıklarını vurgulayarak, şunları anlattı: Associate Proffessor told these emphasizing that they had done a native language research on healty individuals for the first time:   “Türkçeyi anadili olarak konuşanlarda 400’üncü milisaniyede ve 600’üncü milisaniyede bir beyin yanıtı meydana geliyor. In the brains of people who speak Turkish as  native language, two responses occur in 400. milisecond and in 600. milisecond. İngilizce ve Almanca gibi dillerde düz cümlelerde sadece 400’üncü milisaniyede bir yanıt meydana geliyor. But for the languages like English and German only one response occurs in the 400. millisecond. Türkçe’de fiillerin cümlenin sonunda yer alması nedeniyle, cümlenin anlaşılması için kişi, cümleyi baştan sona kadar zihninde tutuyor ve fiilin okunmasıyla cümleyi zihninde tekrar oluşturuyor.” Because verbs are in the end of the sentences in Turkish, a person keeps the whole sentence from beginning to end in his memory and after he reads the verb, he forms the sentence again in his mind in order to understand it.   http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/gundem/19502631.asp   i hope someone will translate this     Edited (1/17/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/17/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/17/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/17/2013) by gokuyum tunci, basima, reemfinan and Umut_Umut liked this message

Thread: T to E please^^

2261.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jan 2013 Wed 05:15 am   Quoting Henry     What does estede mean? Is it spelt correctly? ise de? although id est? yani? It looks like a Spanish word   It is "etse de" It means "Although it makes/does"   DisiBayanAsk and basima liked this message

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2262.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jan 2013 Wed 04:40 am   Quoting archinia varligim bazilarini rahatsiz estede beni uzaktan izlemelerine bayiliyorum   Although my presence disturbs some people I love them watching me from away. Edited (1/16/2013) by gokuyum basima liked this message

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2263.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jan 2013 Wed 04:36 am   Quoting nemanjasrb I can´t imagine myself as a teacher. Kendimi bir hoca olarak hayal edemiyorum.      nemanjasrb and basima liked this message

Thread: i know that this is a long text but can someone pls translate it to turkish :)

2264.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jan 2013 Tue 02:22 pm   Quoting nessah i dont blame anyone im just surprised. i have checked alot of translations in this website before i became a member here, and i saw soo many long texts, like a whole book. and i was thinking wow nobody ever gonna translate his/her text. but then it Always was a translation to it. i dont think my text was that long. and personally i dont think that people who translate can complain that they are tired "but are just doing it anyway", who is forcing u? if i was really fed up with translations i would stop, becuz there are always other and new people who will join and translate, right? if u dont want to translate a "long" message, then fine, i wont say anything more about it, but u dont have to add a reply,that to me, was a little bit insulting. by the way i thanked you already. i think we should drop this now. dont u think? So you want me to give up translating? First minute first goal Who else wants I wonder?   nessah liked this message

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

2265.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jan 2013 Tue 02:05 pm   Quoting elenagabriela     I have just afraid at my first reading, when I saw yedi yıl, like all my teory was ruined; but take a look again I said....oh...that`s my way..   This is too much responsibility for me elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

2266.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jan 2013 Tue 02:03 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb   I understood almost everything,just 3 things not. 1)I can´t see for pencereden,where should I put ni ? I can´t see it well. 2)Dinlenemem- correct is Dinlenemiyorum.. What´s difference?  3)kapısına düm?     1)zincirleri + ni 2)Because it sounds better 3)kapısına dümdüz   I explained in a picture but it caused problems instead of helping     nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: i know that this is a long text but can someone pls translate it to turkish :)

2267.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jan 2013 Tue 01:59 pm   Quoting nessah Thanks alot abla!   Why don´t you thank me too? I am the one who translated the last pharagraph Look my friend we dont decide who will translate which texts. There is no department of labor. When I open the site all I see is another text to translate. When I see a long text I just skip it. I am sure most of the translators do it so. So I advice you to post shorter texts instead of blaming us.

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

2268.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jan 2013 Tue 01:34 pm   Yedi yıldır is correct. Edited (1/15/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/15/2013) by gokuyum elenagabriela and nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: i know that this is a long text but can someone pls translate it to turkish :)

2269.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jan 2013 Tue 01:14 pm   Quoting nessah and also if someone would ask me to translate a long text, from english to my language, i would LOVE to do it, but thats just me! Could you do it everyday or just ignore it after a while? Here in the forum we are sick of translating texts. But we still do. But now we have limits and a little patience.

Thread: CONDITIONAL FROM TEST 40

2270.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jan 2013 Tue 01:04 pm , Edited (1/15/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Inferential Past

2271.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jan 2013 Tue 01:01 pm   Quoting Abla According to the definition, -mIş means 1) past action and 2) hearsay.   In                       Altı milyon Mısırlı mezarlıklarda yaşıyormuş   what happened in the past, the action or the hearsay? Can you use -mIş to mark an ongoing action being based on a second-hand knowledge acquired in the past?   (The example is a newspaper headline.)   simply yes.

Thread: CONDITIONAL FROM TEST 40

2272.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jan 2013 Tue 12:58 pm   Quoting elenagabriela     so do you use in current speaking the ir/ır/ur/ür + di/dı/du/dü form...   why not?

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2273.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jan 2013 Tue 12:47 pm Look we sometimes use present tense instead of future tense. Here it is the same thing. Only difference is now there are combined tenses.

Thread: CONDITIONAL FROM TEST 40

2274.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jan 2013 Tue 12:45 pm   Quoting elenagabriela but what is the reason for use one or another     Just a minute I am calling tunci elenagabriela liked this message

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2275.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jan 2013 Tue 12:34 pm   Quoting archinia Thank you^^!   Only you understood me but wrong. Is this more poetic? basima, archinia and elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: E 2 T , just two sentences

2276.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jan 2013 Tue 12:29 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb You turn her against me. Onu bana karşı çeviriyorsun. New Year is welcomed on the squares throughout Serbia. Yeni yıl Sırbistan´ın her tarafında meydanlarda karşılandı.     basima and nemanjasrb liked this message

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2277.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jan 2013 Tue 12:17 pm She is Ahmed´s grandmother.  Edited (1/15/2013) by gokuyum basima, slovenka007 and nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: Turkish to english please

2278.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jan 2013 Tue 12:13 pm la la la ...la laa la laaaaaaaaa......la la la la basima and Umut_Umut liked this message

Thread: Are there any native Arabic speaking members who are willing to help us?

2279.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jan 2013 Tue 12:10 pm   Quoting Umut_Umut maybe a troll?   He is not a troll but he has obssessions. Maybe he has OCD like me

Thread: Ottoman Poetry

2280.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jan 2013 Tue 12:07 pm   Quoting DisiBayanAsk    Kendi kendine ettiğin âdem Bir yere gelse edemez âlem..    Ayé......Güzal... Ama iyi gelir zaman. Umut değil mi, Goku ?     Sigh....My Sultan Faruk...seviyorum ama... şok sinirli ve... if anyone leaves us in the dust Goku, we have Allah! At most!            It is really normal. You are crazy, he is not. DisiBayanAsk liked this message

Thread: CONDITIONAL FROM TEST 40

2281.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jan 2013 Tue 12:02 pm   Quoting aleksej       Hi… herkese merhaba! I saw Nemanja’s post and I want to say something. A few years ago when I came home from summer holiday, I wrote mail to my friend from Aydın: Keşke Kuşadası’na gelebilseydin, mutlu olurdum. In my native we can use „combination of two ways„ explained above „I wish/If only you could come to Kuşadası, I would be so happy“. Because od this I thought I was right, but now I see that I made a mistake. Nemanja, yanlış açıklama için özür dilerim. Therefore, the correct way is: Kuşadası´na gelebilseydin mutlu olacaktım ????? Mutlu olurdum is the same as mutlu olacaktım ????         You didn´t make a mistake. In Turkish usages of tenses are too complicated. Both of them are correct. Edited (1/15/2013) by gokuyum aleksej and nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: i know that this is a long text but can someone pls translate it to turkish :)

2282.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jan 2013 Tue 11:56 am   Quoting nessah     ive seen people here with 10 times longer text that got translated so i really dont get it. mine wasnt even half of their texts. but okey.   As I said befoere there are some saints in the forum.

Thread: Are there any native Arabic speaking members who are willing to help us?

2283.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jan 2013 Tue 06:18 am   Quoting Abla     One of the Jedis. thehandsom?   He is not a Jedi maybe a bounty hunter

Thread: i know that this is a long text but can someone pls translate it to turkish :)

2284.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jan 2013 Tue 06:11 am   Quoting nessah can u tell me what u mean by this? Oldu gözlerim doldu. It is a funny way of saying "not possible" but not offensive. Your text was so long. You should express yourself with shorter texts if you want them get translated.   Edited (1/15/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

2285.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Jan 2013 Mon 12:36 pm Not bad at all.  nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

2286.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Jan 2013 Mon 12:06 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb   I translated about half... But I don´t know how to translate sentences with olsa. O bülbül benim olsa- If that´s my nightingale???  İki kardeşim olsa= ?   I wish that nightingale was mine   nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: Are there any native Arabic speaking members who are willing to help us?

2287.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Jan 2013 Mon 10:28 am   Quoting ikicihan here:         It hurts my eyes now Umut_Umut liked this message

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

2288.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Jan 2013 Mon 10:27 am   Quoting nemanjasrb Anything for me to translate it? I can´t find anything ... If someone have something,let give me.. Ne olur,yardım edin bana.   I think I gonna forget Turkish.    Ooooo...! Ayşe hanımın keçileri Kişne kişne kişniyor Arpa saman yok Kilimcide çok Kilimci kilim dokur İçinde bülbül şakır O bülbül benim olsa İki kardeşim olsa Biri ay biri yıldız Biri oğlan biri kız Allı ballı kiraz Bana gel biraz Kiraz vakti geçti Eşim seni seçti Oyunun başı Şu çeşmeden su taşı Çeşmenin dibi delik Bana geldi ebelik Edited (1/14/2013) by gokuyum nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: Are there any native Arabic speaking members who are willing to help us?

2289.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Jan 2013 Mon 10:22 am Where was my microscope? Adam25 liked this message

Thread: i know that this is a long text but can someone pls translate it to turkish :)

2290.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Jan 2013 Mon 10:14 am   Quoting nessah     Can i keep you and never let you go.? Seni kendime saklasam ve gitmene izin vermesem olur mu? Can i hold your hand and hug you tight.? Elini tutup seni sıkıca kucaklayabilir miyim? Can i tell the world how lucky i am having you in my life.? Hayatımda olduğun için ne kadar şanslı olduğumu dünyaya haykırabilir miyim? or simply., Can you be mine for the rest of my life..? ya da daha basitçesi: Hayatımın kalanı boyunca benim olabilir misin? My limit is one paragraph There are some saints in forum whose limits are more than one. I hope one of them will see your post     Edited (1/14/2013) by gokuyum basima and nessah liked this message

Thread: i know that this is a long text but can someone pls translate it to turkish :)

2291.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Jan 2013 Mon 08:31 am Oldu gözlerim doldu. MilesTraveller, ikicihan and Umut_Umut liked this message

Thread: practice Turkish

2292.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Jan 2013 Sun 11:32 pm   Quoting gokuyum     Hocam Miles´ın bey olduğundan çok kuşkuluyum   Hocam Miles beymiş. Ben de bu aralar herkesi bayan zannediyorum   Umut_Umut and tunci liked this message

Thread: practice Turkish

2293.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Jan 2013 Sun 11:26 pm   Quoting tunci     Sorun değil Miles Bey. Karşılıklı yanlış anlaşılma olmuş.    Hocam Miles´ın bey olduğundan çok kuşkuluyum

Thread: practice Turkish

2294.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Jan 2013 Sun 11:18 pm   Quoting MilesTraveller tunci bey pardon!! ben yine yanlış okumuşum. Benim yüzümden mesela uzamış oldu. Özür dilerim.   Kuru kuru özür olmaz. Bir iskender kebap falan birşeyler ısmarlarsın artık HaNNo liked this message

Thread: love poem...hopefully

2295.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Jan 2013 Sun 11:16 pm   Quoting cassy gosh thanks very much... can i ask again if i get another? Cassie Lol

Thread: Does this mean.....

2296.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Jan 2013 Sun 11:10 pm   Quoting Lindaxxx Is this person trying to tell me where they are going, or are, is a beautiful place? Sen yanima geldiğinde seni güzel yerlere gezdirecegim sevgilim sen benim bitanemsin askim.   He calls her "my love", she calls him "this person". What kind of a relationship is this? basima, nemanjasrb, nessah, MilesTraveller and HaNNo liked this message

Thread: Turkish to English Please

2297.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Jan 2013 Sun 10:33 pm   Quoting insallah      Never   Gosh! You stubborn girl

Thread: Turkish to English Please

2298.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Jan 2013 Sun 10:18 pm   Quoting insallah         Sali gunu 15 Ocakta bilet var Sofyadan, gelebilirmisin o gun? £130. Haber ver bana alayim uyarsa sana. There is a ticket for Tuesday 15th Jan from Sofya, can you come that day ? it´s £130. Let me know and I shall buy it   tamam abla al sen gelcem ok sister you get it I will come   Erdi bana pasaport numaran, adresin, ve dogum tarihin lazim bilet icin. £130 a buldugum bilet gitmis simdi baska bakiyorum, biraz daha pahali digerleri, bulunca haber veririm sana. Erdi I need your passport number , your address , date of birth for the ticket. The ticket I found for £130 has gone, i´m now looking for others, they are a bit more expensive. when I find I will let you know     I ask again when will you forget Turkish? nifrtity liked this message

Thread: T 2 E

2299.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Jan 2013 Sun 10:07 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb Bende hayrimak istiyormusun? It doesn´t make any sense to me.. Hayrimak verb doesn´t even exist...    Yes it doesn´t make sense. Maybe he wants to say "Benden ayrılmak istiyor musun?" But I must say his Turkish is not acceptable. Edited (1/13/2013) by gokuyum nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: T 2 E

2300.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Jan 2013 Sun 09:29 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb Biraz degil bayaa biliyorsun. It´s not a little (bayaa ?) you know...o.O?    bayaa = baya = a lot Edited (1/13/2013) by gokuyum tunci liked this message

Thread: practice Turkish

2301.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Jan 2013 Sun 09:23 pm   Quoting elenagabriela yes, and my action too; I mean I have talked to a friend and all I wanted to say is that, like always, I will spend few days there... Am I wrong....   You should use present continous tense.   Son yıllarda her Şubat ayında Türkiye´ye gidiyorum. or Son yıllarda her Şubat ayında Türkiye´ye gitmeye alıştım.

Thread: practice Turkish

2302.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Jan 2013 Sun 08:53 pm   Quoting elenagabriela önce ben de aynen düşündüm, ama sonra, bir şey okudum, fikrimi değiştirdim   Son yıllarda yatırımları hızla artan alışveriş merkezlerine (AVM) 2013’te 27 tane daha eklenecek. Ekonomist dergisinin araştırmasına göre, 4 milyar dolarlık yatırımla bu yıl açılacak AVM’ler 35 bin kişiye istihdam yaratacak.   http://fotogaleri.hurriyet.com.tr/galeridetay.aspx?cid=64875&rid=2&p=1&hid=22352538   Here "son yıllarda"  points at the action continues too.

Thread: practice Turkish

2303.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Jan 2013 Sun 08:16 pm   Quoting elenagabriela Son yıllarda, Şubat ayında, okul tatili olunca, Istanbul`a gelirdim. In the last years I used to came to Istanbul in February, during the school holiday.   şimdiden teşekkürler In my opininon this "son yıllarda" points at that the action continues. So there is a incoherency in the sentence. I would prefer to use "geçen yıllarda"   mltm liked this message

Thread: ....the problem is that...

2304.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Jan 2013 Sat 03:09 am   Quoting nemanjasrb   I have no idea. I tried to do it again,but I couldnt. Oh noo. I want to do it

Thread: Tr to En

2305.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Jan 2013 Fri 10:04 pm   Quoting ikicihan İyilik yap, denize at, balık bilmezse, halik bilir. Do a good deed, throw it into the sea. If fish doesn´t know, God knows.       basima, MilesTraveller and Aida krishan liked this message

Thread: ....the problem is that...

2306.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Jan 2013 Fri 09:26 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb     Well I don´t think that we ever used 9000 words. :O Maybe 1000,I don´t know,I´m not right person for that. I see them in epic poem,most. I´ll find list of 9000 words,and I´ll post here which of them I use. No,you´re not too old. Don´t be silly.  I found these words. And nemenja can you tell me how do you quote two posts like you did in the previous post? I can quote only one post.     ORTAK KELİMELER - COMMON WORDS - ZAJEDNIČKE REČI   çarşaf = čaršaf yastık = jastuk yorgan = jorgan duş = tuš  orman = orman çizme = čizma cep = džep kazan = kazan tavan = tavan kayısı =  kajsija yoğurt = jogurt düğme =  dugme köfte =  ćufte şal = šal eşarp = ešarpa çoban = čoban yelek = jelek inat = inat yok = jok aman! = aman! canım = džanum düşman =  dušman büyük = bujuk merak = merak zor = zor hamam = amam kapı = kapija nar = nar haydi = hajde problem = problem taksi = taksi yeniçeri = janičar doktor = doktor zulüf = zuluf hiç = ič  börek = burek ortak = ortak fincan = fildžan ananas = ananas paket = paket reklam = reklama tamam = taman kutu = kutija sarma = sarma çorba = čorba kara = kara lale = lala burma = burma pencere = pendžer boya = boja kasap = kasapin çorap = čarape komşu = komšija patik = patike saat = sat kaşık = kašika parça = parče telefon = telefon plaj = plaža  bluz = bluza restoran = restoran para = pare sümbül = zumbul tulumba = tulumba baklava = baklava şeker = šećer lavabo = lavabo budala = budala çay = čaj sokak = sokak cezve = džezva  alet = alat zanaat = zanat kapak = kapak böbrek = bubreg sabun = sapun taze = taze lamba = lampa oda = odaja bayat = bajat maymun = majmun piliç = pilići kokoş = kokoška cümleten = džumle sandık = sanduk kral = kralj çeşme = česma merdiven = merdevine çekiç = čekić kaldırım = kaldrma bayrak = barjak kalay = kalaj çelik = čelik dut = dud badem = badem fitil = fitilj ayva = ajvar zeytin = zejtin mutluluk = muštuluk  pamuk = pamuk kraliçe = kraljica oluk = oluk avukat = advokat kaymak = kajmak pirinç = pirinač vitrin = vitrina pazar = pazar meze = meze bedava = badava pilav = pilav saksı = saksija burgu = burgija törpü = turpija makaz = makaze güveç = đuveč gevrek = đevrek musakka = musaka oklava = oklagija pide = pita ıspanak = spanać kule = kula gübre = đubre biber = biber  konak = konak karanfil = karanfil vişne = višnja nane = nana muşmula = mušmula turşu = turšija  sedef = sedef sirke = sirće pekmez = pekmez tepsi = tepsija salata = salata müşteri = mušterija  şifre = šifra paramparça = paramparčad kel = ćelav kör = ćorav kömür = ćumur şamar = šamar şoför = šofer fabrika = fabrika tabela = tabela     Edited (1/11/2013) by gokuyum nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: Ottoman Poetry

2307.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Jan 2013 Fri 03:18 pm   Quoting tunci   Gokuyum, senin thread görsel bir boyut da kazanmış oldu. Geçmiş olsun kardeşim.     Sorma hocam. Ne yapalım? Yeter ki sevenler kavuşsun ikicihan, nevbahar and tunci liked this message

Thread: Urgent please help

2308.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Jan 2013 Fri 12:21 pm   Quoting lynette My ex mother in law has just died, could someone please tell me the correct thing to say at this time  You can say "Başın sağolsun. Allah rahmet eylesin. Çok üzüldüm."   Umut_Umut liked this message

Thread: ....the problem is that...

2309.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Jan 2013 Fri 10:41 am   Quoting trip May I ask a question? I am not at all qualified to enter this discussion, but I have always wondered whether the change to the latin alphabet was partly meant to spread literacy in Turkey in the early 20th century. I have a book of pictures of Atatürk through his years as president, and there are several photographs of him talking to people in the provinces about their studies. In one, he even goes over a lesson with a young man. Arabic script was not as easy for everyone to understand, is that right? If widespread literacy was part of the plan, I think that is very admirable.   I have no objection to alphabet change. There are no vowels in Arabic alphabet. And it makes it difficult to learn and read. Latin alphabet is easier than Arabic one. But alphabet change and puricification of language are different things. Puricification is like changing all the Latin, French, German, Greek words in English with the new artificial English words. If this happened in English you wouldn´t understand Shakespeare. This happened in our language. And now we don´t understand and know our most important poets. Edited (1/11/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/11/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Test-40

2310.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Jan 2013 Fri 12:36 am   Quoting tunci     Fevkalade  , Abla !       I guess abla has a high IQ. I mean it. tunci liked this message

Thread: Ulemadan İslamda müzk hakkında seçme saçmalar

2311.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Jan 2013 Fri 12:24 am You could be a perfect admin handsome but in a parallel universe not in this one ladybakunin, thehandsom, insallah and Abla liked this message

Thread: Ulemadan İslamda müzk hakkında seçme saçmalar

2312.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jan 2013 Thu 11:48 pm   Quoting Abla       I disagree. And I must admit it is also sad and disappointing for me to read this. Many people come here, accept the rules and try to express themselves in a foreign language every day no matter how labored it might be from time to time.   When you belong to a small nation you can never expect people to come to you, you always have to go to them. Maybe it is better.   But by all means go ahead, don´t let me interrupt.   I don´t understand your point abla? What is your objection?

Thread: Aphorisms

2313.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jan 2013 Thu 11:18 pm Western philosophy. They exaggerated it too much Edited (1/10/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Aphorisms

2314.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jan 2013 Thu 11:16 pm   Quoting stumpy and possibly get bludgeoned to a pulp with a rolling pin or frying pan?    Lol.

Thread: Ulemadan İslamda müzk hakkında seçme saçmalar

2315.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jan 2013 Thu 11:15 pm   Quoting Elisabeth     I understand your point...however...I am not saying not to post in Turkish but to post a brief summary (not even a word for word translation) in English so that EVERYONE can participate...not just the few people who are truely bilingual.     We are lazy Elisabeth. Don´t force us. We spend all our energy with translation elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: Aphorisms

2316.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jan 2013 Thu 10:50 pm 5)From The Praise of Folly   Kadınların akılsız ve aptal yaratıklar olduğu doğrudur. Yine de eğlendirirler ve mutluluk verirler. Erkekler yaşamlarını kadınlarla paylaşsın. Kadınlar delilikleriyle onların sert mizaçlarını değiştirip yumuşatacaktır.   It is true that women are stupid creatures. But they entertain you and give you joy. Let men share their lives with women. Women will soften their firm characters with their madnesses.   I don´t agree with this. I shared it to annoy women Edited (1/10/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/10/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Aphorisms

2317.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jan 2013 Thu 10:38 pm 4) From The Praise of Folly   Elinizi vicdanınıza koyun. Hangi erkek, gerçek bir bilge gibi hareket edip ilk iş olarak evliliğin sakıncalarını önceden gözden geçirebilseydi, boynuna o yuların takılmasına izin verirdi?   Please be fair. Which man would let that halter be put on his neck if he behaved like a wise man and if he exemined the inconveniences of marriage?   Erasmus is our spokesman. Edited (1/10/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/10/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Aphorisms

2318.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jan 2013 Thu 10:32 pm 3) From The Praise of Folly İnsan ırkı, varlığını vücudunun tuhaf ve gülünç olan organlarına borçludur. Onların isimlerini bile yüzünüzde gülümseme eksik olmadan anamazsınız.   Humans owe their existance to their weird and funny organs. We can´t even mention their names without a smile on our face.   Note. Lol. This is really true.

Thread: ....the problem is that...

2319.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jan 2013 Thu 09:00 pm   Quoting ikicihan OKTAY SINANOĞLU Türkçe Giderse Türkiye Gider http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfpxHUQjCow This man have some good points...   I wonder how Turkish will go out of hand? All of a sudden will we start to speak English? Is this possible? Edited (1/10/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Ulemadan İslamda müzk hakkında seçme saçmalar

2320.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jan 2013 Thu 08:03 pm   Quoting vona     The rules are either for everybody to follow or for everybody to ignore. If you have rules you have to enforce them for everybody. Do not you? I wonder if some people have privileges others do not?      What if rules suck?

Thread: Ulemadan İslamda müzk hakkında seçme saçmalar

2321.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jan 2013 Thu 07:39 pm   . Ebû Ümâme’den nakledildiğine göre Rasûlullah şöyle buyurur “Allah, beni âlemlere rahmet olarak göndermiştir. Bana, çalgı aletlerini, mizmarları (kırma­mı ) , haçı ve câhiliye işlerini yok etmemi emretmiştir. Rabbim, izzeti üzerine şöyle yemin etmiştir: Herhangi bir kulum kasıtlı olarak bir yudum içki içmeye görsün, muhakkak onu kıyâmet günü af olunma­sı veya azab görmesi maksadıyla cehennemin kaynamış sularıyla sula­rım. Benden korkmaya görsün, muhakkak kıyâmet günü ona hayız kanından içiririm. Küçük bir çocuğa veya zayıf bir Müslümana su ver­memeye görsün, muhakkak kıyâmet günü af olunması veya azab gör­mesi maksadıyla onu cehennemin kaynamış sularıyla sularım.”[1]   I think we should discuss this hadith before criticising those academicians. [1]         Tayâlisî, I, 338; İbn Hanbel, V, 257, 268; Humeydî, Müsned, II, 205; Mec- me‘u’z-zevâid, V, 69.   Edited (1/10/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Ulemadan İslamda müzk hakkında seçme saçmalar

2322.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jan 2013 Thu 06:58 pm   Quoting nevbahar i want to write.. yuh.. below some posts.. is it allowed to use turkish exclamations??   I allow you nevbahar liked this message

Thread: ....the problem is that...

2323.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jan 2013 Thu 06:57 pm   Quoting AlphaF     Bu thread de benim kınadığım Osmanlı sairlerinin ahlakları veya hayat görüşleri değil, bunları ifade etmek içim kullanmayı seçtikleri dilin Türklüğe ve Türk diline etkisi. Bana kalırsa eserlerini Japonca yazsalar Türklüğe ve Türk dilinin gelişmesine faydaları aynı mertebede olurdu. Türkçe diye bir dertleri yoktu. Saraya yakın olmak, para kazanmak için o gerekiyordu; öyle de yaptılar. Sarayın da Türkçe diye bir dedi yoktu, Osmanlı sarayında iradeler Osmanlıca ifade edildiği halde, Karamanoğullarının sarayında resmi dll Türkçe idi. Otlukbeli Savaşını Karamanoğlu Mehmet Bey kazansa idi Türklerin tarihi bambaşka olabilirdi. Bu gün bizi Osmanlı şairlerinin öztürkçe yazanlardan daha kıymetli olduğuna inandırmaya çalışanların ise ya cahil ya da uyanık gericiler olduklarını düşünüyorum. Bugün güç´e yakın olmak ve ulufe toplamak için böyle gerekiyor; öyle de yapıyorlar.     The thing you don´t understand is a language can´t be pure. If I wanted I could find many foreign words in your posts. There is always an interaction between cultures. We were under the influence of Arabic and Farsi culture in past and now we are under the infleunce of American culture.    There were patrons of poets in every nation Alpha. How would they survive without a patron?

Thread: A Barış Manço question

2324.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jan 2013 Thu 06:46 pm   Quoting trip So, does this banning of songs mean that Manço was something of a rebel? At least in his earlier years? In his later years, from what I can tell, he became almost a father figure. I know he is much loved and remembered fondly in Turkey. But do people remember his whole history? (By the way, I like that he was on the cutting edge in the ´60s and ´70s. He was groovy, man!) I don´t think he was a rebel. Cem Karaca was but he wasn´t.

Thread: Ulemadan İslamda müzk hakkında seçme saçmalar

2325.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jan 2013 Thu 06:43 pm   Quoting Elisabeth These rules where created by the site owners.  I am only reminding you of the rules.  This site was designed with Turkish learners in mind and it is the reason for the sites very existance.  It is very difficult for learners to participate in forums that are all in Turkish.  When you post something that is complicated and all in Turkish you exclude a good number of members from a conversation.  Sorry if you feel insulted but it doesn´t change the fact that the rules where created to enhance communication between people not excude them.    Elisabeth you may be right but don´t forget our native language is Turkish and we express ourselves better in Turkish especially when we talk about deep issues. I know we look like a Turkish cult in forum. But this is not our mistake. We learned English to understand you and you should learn Turkish if you want to understand us. You can´t limit us with only endless love letter translations and Turkish grammar issues. I prefer using English as much as possible but it takes so long time for me to express myself in English. So sometimes I write in Turkish. Maybe you can open another section in forum. Only Turkish section and so we would come to an agreement.   mltm and harp00n liked this message

Thread: ....the problem is that...

2326.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jan 2013 Thu 05:44 am Vona aslında ben de yakın zamana kadar sizin gibi düşünüyordum. Osmanlı edebiyatının seçkin bir zümreye hitap eden, laf kalabalığı ile dolu, gerici bir edebiyat olduğunu düşünüyordum. Neden Osmanlı şairlerini anlayamıyorduk da Yunus Emreyi anlıyorduk? Çünkü Osmanlı şairleri özentiye kapılıp Türkçeyi katletmişlerdi. Bana böyle öğretilmişti. Ne zaman ki Türk-islam edebiyatı bölümünde doktora yapmaya ve divan edebiyatı şairlerini okuyup anlamaya başladım fikirlerim değişti. Bir kere Osmanlı şairleri inanılmaz derecede hümanisttiler. Zaten bu edebiyat tamamiyle sufi düşünceden beslenir. İkincisi şiirlerde en çok eleştirilen kişiler yobaz insanlardı. İslami hukukla yöntilen bir toplumdaki bu yobaz eleştirisi beni inanılmaz etkiledi. osmanlı şairleri şiirlerinde elinde kadeh, meyhanede sızan ya da bir güzelin peşinde koşan rint tipini her zaman softaya tercih ediyorlardı. Ayrıca her Osmanlı şiiri öyle anlaşılmayacak kadar zor değildi. Azcık bir çabayla şiirleri anlayabiliyordum. Evet gerçekten de çok ağır dille yazılmış eserler vardı ama bunlar öyle abartıldığı ölçüde yaygın değildiler. Ama malesef dilde sadeleştirme yüzünden bizim bu edebiyatla ve onu besleyen kültür ortamıyla ilişkimiz koptu. Sonra o divan edebiyatı şairlerinin eleştirip yerden yere vurduğu yobazlar çıkıp, bizim atalarımızın aynı kendileri gibi olduğunu, onların savundukları fikirleri savunduklarını söyleyip değişik bir Osmanlı portresi ortaya koydular. İnsanlar buna inandı. Şimdi de hala bu yanlış inanç pompolanıyor. Böylece toplum mühendisliği yapılıyor. Osmanlı şairlerinin gerici olduğuna inanmıyorum. Onlar bence bizden daha ilericiydiler ve sizin sandığınız gibi halktan kopuk da değildiler. Birçok divan şairi taşrada yetişmiş halk çocuklarıdır. İnsan ancak okuyup araştırdıkça önyargılarını kırıp gerçeklere ulaşabilir. Yoksa cehaletin karanlığında yalpalar durur. Edited (1/10/2013) by gokuyum

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2327.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jan 2013 Thu 05:16 am   Quoting vona     You know those who used the dark side were also known as dark jedi. Being jedi and using the light side of the Force are not the same thing always. Remember, Anakin Skywalker was a jedi and yet transformed into Darth Vader. But if you are like Obi-Wan Kenobi, it´s okay His anger transformed Anakin to Darth Vader. He couldn´t channel his anger as good as Obi-Wan. Obi-Wan was not a perfect Jedi when he was young. Remember he beat the Sith who had killed his master using his anger. And this means he used the dark side of the force to defeat a Sith. But he managed to control his anger in time and didn´t let it destroy himself like Anakin. I try to be like Obi-Wan. I try to control my anger as much as possible. But I am not perfect. I wish I was like Yoda     Edited (1/10/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/10/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: A Barış Manço question

2328.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jan 2013 Thu 03:12 am   Quoting trip Teşekkürler, Gokuyum! This is very interesting. Even the most innocuous songs seem to have been under scrutiny -- "Arkadaşım Eşek"! This came to be considered a children´s song, didn´t it? Yes. So, TRT would bar songs from TV and radio, but does that mean people could still buy the records in the store? Yes (At least I hope so) I have also wondered about Manço´s 1968 song "Susanna," which is clearly about free love. (It certainly fit the era in which it was written.) When he sang the song on TRT in the early ´80s, it had been revamped to "Şehrazat," with much more innocent-sounding lyrics (but still a hint of suggestion). Do you think he made the change because of TRT, or just because he was experimenting with his own song? (His view of life may have changed by then, too. I think he may have been a family man by that time.) I don´t have any idea.       Edited (1/10/2013) by gokuyum

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2329.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jan 2013 Wed 10:27 pm   Quoting vona     No, it is not different language but your lacking knowledge of how Ottoman Turkish written in Arabic Alphabet. Here are some examples from the poem above:  درددن is drddn and should be read as derdden. The biggest problem of Ottoman Turkish is that vowels are often omited and you have to guess the word from the consonants. رب  = rb is rab and بر  = br is bir. Why not rb is rib and br is bar?  دم = dm is dem. - dn in the end of the word  عشقدن  is the Turkish ablative suffix -dan. It would be -den according to vowel harmony in some another word but yet would be written -dn. Strange? Funny? Or what?  Not using vowels also caused a lot of common errors. One of them is cürüm in this saying: "ateş olsa cürmü kadar yer yakar." Cürüm should be cirim but because both word written in the same way (crm) people changed cirim (volume) to cürüm (crime) which makes the saying sound absurd but no one is aware of this absurdness.       Vona you have some knowledge. Come and join my side. Be a Jedi

Thread: A Barış Manço question

2330.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jan 2013 Wed 10:18 pm   Quoting trip Merhaba! Here is something I have long been curious about: If I understand correctly from my reading, the Turkish government was strict with artists in the 1960s and ´70s, censoring and even directing content. This makes me wonder about one of my favorite Barış Manço songs, "Lambaya Püf De." It seems quite suggestive, especially for its day. Was this not a problem as far as the government was concerned?  Here is a link, in case you do not know the song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=SpeNcnSknRo Here is the list of banned songs in past by TRT and its reasons: http://www.hafifmuzik.org/haber/trtden-yasakli-sarkilar-gecidi/   Banned songs of Barış Manço and its reasons:     Barış Manço Arkadaşım Eşşek: İnsanın arkadaşı eşek olamaz. (Manço’ya ‘Kuzu’ olarak değiştirmesi önerilmiş. My Friend Donkey:: A person can´t have a donkey friend. They suggested him to change donkey with lamb. Lambaya “Püf” De: Erotik bulunmuş. Say Puff to Lamp. It was considered erotic. Ölüm Allahın Emri: Girişte zurna kullanılmış. (Pop müzikte zurna kullanılamaz). Sözlerde karamsarlık var. Death Is The Command of God: Clarion was used in the beginning of song. It can´t be used in pop songs. And song has pesimist words. Bir Bahar Akşamı: Türk sanat müziğinin yozlaştırılmış bir örneği. Bir pop müzik şarkıcısı Türk sanat müziği okuyamaz. A Spring Evening: It is a degenerated example of Turkish Art Music. A pop singer can´t sing Turkish Art Music.   Note: I wish the reasons were jokes.        Edited (1/9/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/9/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/9/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/10/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/10/2013) by gokuyum basima liked this message

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2331.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jan 2013 Wed 08:15 pm   Quoting sana_go Playing others games   I challange you in any game

Thread: practicing Turkish

2332.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jan 2013 Wed 08:11 pm   Quoting Umut_Umut      Hi Milestraveler, Yes, it could be great if the ones who speak German would like to learn Turkish. I need to practise German too but... Deutsch ist wirklich schwer zu lernen aber einfach zu vergessen. Ich möchte nicht Deutsch lernen.  I know only this much   basima liked this message

Thread: Sun language Theory

2333.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jan 2013 Wed 07:59 pm   Quoting Abla Hmmm maybe they teach it in the folklore section.   That was harsh   Note. I love both of you. Please don´t fight

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2334.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jan 2013 Wed 07:54 pm   Quoting sana_go     You told, you would die of heart attack...   We have so many talents.. Lol. Like what?

Thread: turkish to english

2335.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jan 2013 Wed 07:48 pm   Quoting sana_go     Then she WON !!   No girl can beat me in field

Thread: burası - burada...?

2336.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jan 2013 Wed 07:39 pm   Quoting freedquaker     However, "burası" or "burayı" cannot be expressed directly with "here" in English; then "this place" has to be used.     Aren´t they same?

Thread: Sun language Theory

2337.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jan 2013 Wed 07:31 pm   Quoting Abla How come they never taught it in our universities?   It is your shame

Thread: turkish to english

2338.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jan 2013 Wed 07:29 pm   Quoting stumpy well I guess I´m disqualified... Assasins Creed, Mortal Combat, WarCraft and Dishonored but no PES Soccer   Not bad stumpy. Not bad at all Edited (1/9/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: turkish to english

2339.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jan 2013 Wed 07:29 pm   Quoting sana_go   What about when she likes playing on field??   It would be too much. I would die of heart attack

Thread: T to E plz

2340.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jan 2013 Wed 06:27 pm  1.Değişik manzaralarıyla, tabii güzellikleriyle, koruları ve yalılarıyla, çiçek bahçeleriyle, tatlı havasıyla Boğaziçi eşsizdir, denilebilir.   It can be said that Bosphorus is unique with its different views, natural beauties, groves, shores, flower gardens and nice weather. basima and lovelovevampire liked this message

Thread: Ulemadan İslamda müzk hakkında seçme saçmalar

2341.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jan 2013 Wed 06:11 pm   Quoting AlphaF Çok da üzülmeyin ! Görünüşe göre Askeri Marşlar serbest.....   İnsanların şehvet duygularını uyandırabilecek, onları ahlaksızlığa sürükleyebilecek müziklerin haram olduğuyla ilgili hadisleri okudum. Sanırım bu hadislere dayanarak o kişiler bir yorumda bulunuyor. Bu yorumlarını insanlara zorla dayatmadıkları sürece sorun yok. Herkes fikrini açıklamakta özgürdür. Şu anki müzik endüstrisinin hali de ortada. Özellikle Amerika´da sex ve cinsellik iması içermeyen şarkı ya da klip yok gibi birşey. Müzik inanılmaz derecede dejenere olmuş durumda. Ben de bu tür müzik ve kliplere karşıyım ama sansür çığırtkanlığı da yapmıyorum. Sadece dinlemiyorum. Edited (1/9/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/9/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/10/2013) by gokuyum MilesTraveller liked this message

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2342.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jan 2013 Wed 06:02 pm   Quoting Abla       There is one here, male, 19, high school student, 185/80. (Ask for a photo.)   Just come and take him. Him? We need "her".   Having a wife who can play a soccer game is our ultimate fantasy   sana_go liked this message

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2343.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jan 2013 Wed 05:58 pm   Quoting AlphaF     Those who consider themselves Turkish must be aware thatothers who ran a Empre in a made up language they called "Osmanlıca" never called themselves Turks. The name they chose to give to those other then their own kind, especially those with  Turkish ethnic origins, was "etrak-ı biidrak". If I am a proud Turkish citizen today, with a developing modern language and literature based on my own roots ...why should I try to keep connected to a culture that disowned me ? Unless Ottomans were right to call Turks "senseless". There are racists all the time. Why do this make whole Ottoman culture a racist one? What kind of a logic is this?   Edited (1/9/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: T 2 E

2344.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jan 2013 Tue 08:57 pm Is Turkish a hard language to learn?    This is better.

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2345.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jan 2013 Tue 08:52 pm tunci hocam şu topiğe bir el atsan harp00n liked this message

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2346.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jan 2013 Tue 08:52 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb   Hm,I think I understand it now more. But not tottaly... It´s like: Is it learning Turkish hard language?  ?       yes. basima liked this message

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2347.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jan 2013 Tue 08:48 pm Oh sorry it is not the middle way. It is my way again

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2348.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jan 2013 Tue 08:47 pm   Quoting tunci       Each language is unique in its own way. I too am against extreme purification that is performed by ideological thinking. Purifications are necessarry to a certain point. Extremism is wrong not only for purifications in language but for everything in life. We need to find the middle way.    I think the middle way is not to interfere. It is to let people speak how they want to speak.

Thread: böyle vs. böylece

2349.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jan 2013 Tue 08:43 pm Nietzsche baba tunci liked this message

Thread: Aphorisms

2350.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jan 2013 Tue 08:20 pm 2) From Emile, or On Education   Uygar insan kölelik içinde doğar, yaşar ve ölür. Civilised man is born, lives and dies in slavery.

Thread: turkish to english

2351.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jan 2013 Tue 08:17 pm   Quoting tunci     What a criteria !   Btw, never heard of that game...in old times I witnessed that some girls playing "langırt" [pinball], may be they would make good wifes too ! girls that playing soccer game..!     Lol. I will marry with the first girl who beats me in PES

Thread: T 2 E

2352.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jan 2013 Tue 08:05 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb     Thank you. I think that the one who sent me that message is Turk..Yes,I checked it,he lives in Istanbul.. But I don´t get it,why there is öğrenmesi ? Sırpça öğrenmek zor mudur? - Is that correct?    Let me tranlate it literaly: Turkish is a language whose learning is difficult. Öğrenmesi is "whose learning" in the sentence. basima and nemanjasrb liked this message

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2353.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jan 2013 Tue 07:53 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb Sırpça zor bir dilmi öğrenmesi? I understand every word,but I don´t see a point of this sentence? Is Serbian a difficult language his learning? But,my try would be: Is it hard to learn Serbian? Your translation is correct. But the Turkish sentence is not in the correct order. It should be like this: "Türkçe öğrenmesi zor bir dil mi?"   basima liked this message

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2354.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jan 2013 Tue 07:51 pm 1) From Emile, or On Education   Her şey, Yaratıcı’nın elinden çıktığında iyidir; insanoğlunun elinde bozulur. Everything is beautiful in the hands of Creator, it gets corrupted in the hands of human. jolanaze and tunci liked this message

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2355.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jan 2013 Tue 07:38 pm   Quoting tunci     Of course it is understandable. Because in that old English text, there is not non-English words. Are they ? If there is, may be one or two. Unlike Ottoman literature dominated by foreign origin words.There is no complicated half german - half french compound structures in their language as in Ottoman language had arabic and farsi compounds which would kill not only non-Turkish learners but also ordinary Turks to understand. Simple is that.  ============================================ When it comes to the richness, Turkish is as rich as English, if it wasn´t been ignored by our "elites".           E tu Brutus?   You(plural) want a perfect language. This is an ideology. And it will never happen. There is no such thing.  A perfect language can be only an artificial and anti-cultural language.

Thread: turkish to english

2356.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jan 2013 Tue 07:28 pm   Quoting Umut_Umut     A girl who plays PES (Pro Evolution Soccer -Playstation) is a must of every household.   Such a girl would be a perfect wife Umut_Umut and basima liked this message

Thread: the plurar of words

2357.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jan 2013 Tue 05:14 am   Quoting stumpy well one word that comes to mind is köy, the plural is köyler, isn´t the y a vowel and why isn´t it taken into consideration?  Is the letter y the red headed child of the alphabet?   y isn´t a vowel. It is a consonant. There are eight vowls in Turkish. They are: a,e,ı,i,o,ö,u,ü.

Thread: - BE

2358.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jan 2013 Tue 03:07 am I think this "be" is Farsi "ber". It means "on" So we say day on day instead of day by day   Edited (1/8/2013) by gokuyum Umut_Umut and tunci liked this message

Thread: I need a translation, pleases help!!

2359.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jan 2013 Tue 02:56 am   Quoting lululy can someone translate these sentences for me?? sevgilim elinden deldiyin kadariyla turceye calis elinden geldikce turkce konusmaya kayret et seni cok cok cok mucuk mucuk yaparim askim Thanks...   Is this a joke? He can´t speak Turkish but he wants her to do her best to speak Turkish. Worst Turkish ever. Ha kayret. Yoksa mucuk yaparım Edited (1/8/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/8/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/8/2013) by gokuyum harp00n, basima and HaNNo liked this message

Thread: 2 sentences please

2360.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jan 2013 Tue 02:54 am   Quoting lululy only 2 please: sen elinden kadariyla bana turkce yazmaya kayretet tamami. kalbimin bitanesi bana birseyler daha yaz bekliyorum. I´d appreciate if someone can help! thzzz   lol

Thread: Madness

2361.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jan 2013 Tue 02:18 am En kötü olan her zaman en geniş kitleye hitap eder.   The worst is always favored by the largest mass.   Note:   Motto of pop culture:   How much bad, that much good

Thread: Madness

2362.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jan 2013 Tue 02:13 am Yaşamaktan usanıp intihara sürüklenenler kimlerdir? Bilgelikle iç içe yaşayan insanlar değil midir?   Who are those commit suicide getting bored of living? Aren´t they those who live together with wisdom?

Thread: Madness

2363.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jan 2013 Tue 02:09 am From The Praise of Folly:   Madness says:   Herkes ama herkes benim dostluğumu kazanmaya ve sunduğum nimetlerden faydalanmaya can atıyor. Ancak yüzyıllardır biri bile çıkıp deliliği överek minnettarlığını ortaya koymuyor.   Everybody wants so eagerly to gain my friendship and benfit from my blessings. But nobody has showed their thankfulness by praising madness for centuries. DisiBayanAsk liked this message

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2364.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jan 2013 Tue 01:21 am Some authors who support puricification invent new Turkish words and uses them instead of using a common Arabic word and vice versa.  One of them is Tahsin Yücel. He is an author, linguist and translator. I read some of his translations and I really had difficulties with understanding them. Some Turkish words he used was so foreign for me. If he had used the common Arabic ones, his translations would be more understandable. You can say then don´t read his translations. But sometimes I can´t find any other translations of foreign books he translated. I remember I had big difficulties when trying to understand his translation of Camus´s The Myth of Sisyphus. I was really frustrated. After a while I saw an article of Ece temelkuran about this book and she was saying that she didn´t understand his Turkish. And I was happy that she tought the same thing with me. She also criticises the translators who uses Arabic words instead of common Turkish words. We don´t understand the translations of some important books because of translators´ ideologies and this really makes me angry. I am sick of their stupid ideologies, I just want to understand what I read.. Article: http://www.ecetemelkuran.com/kategori/blog/28247/sisifos-ve-bir-kisim-turkceciler... Edited (1/8/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/8/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/8/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/8/2013) by gokuyum Abla liked this message

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2365.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Jan 2013 Mon 05:36 pm Why don´t you want to see the relation between language and culture? Language is not a closed system which linguists examine and try to make it perfect. It sucks when it is perfect as a system.

Thread: Genitive relationship

2366.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Jan 2013 Sat 09:12 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb     Thank you.   I hope it helped. nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: Mona Rosa

2367.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Jan 2013 Sat 09:11 pm To my Mona Rosa:   your blue eyes  killed me twice  once in their presence  once in their absence  chained with madness  no more captive  no more helpless  i will lose my way  in your darkness  away from exit  away from entrance  Edited (1/5/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Mona Rosa

2368.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Jan 2013 Sat 08:41 pm Elektrik alamadım.I couldn´t take a liking to him. This is the tragedy of most briilliant men.  I will include myself in the future Brilliance, loneliness and madness are close friends     Note: This makes me remember Nietzsche and Lou Salome.     Edited (1/5/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/5/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Genitive relationship

2369.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Jan 2013 Sat 08:33 pm http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_55032 Look at my posts in the topic.

Thread: Help soup recipe

2370.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Jan 2013 Fri 09:06 pm   Quoting harp00n My favorite soup is "Mahluta". Perfect...   Never heard but looks good.

Thread: Help soup recipe

2371.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Jan 2013 Fri 08:31 pm   Quoting Abla         (Your green soup doesn´t need any comments.)   Appearance can decieve you

Thread: Help soup recipe

2372.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Jan 2013 Fri 06:51 pm I love pancar çorbası most.   basima liked this message

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2373.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Jan 2013 Fri 06:36 pm   Quoting Abla In Egypt they call them bird´s tongues.   They are disgusting.   Why? The soup is delicious.

Thread: Tr to En

2374.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Jan 2013 Fri 02:37 pm   Quoting AlphaF     I am a protestant...not obvious ?   I thought you were an atheist     We can´t ignore the fact that positivism had a big influence on the education policies of modern republic.   Edited (1/4/2013) by gokuyum Efi70 and jolanaze liked this message

Thread: Times Higher Education World University Rankings Top 400 2012-2013

2375.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jan 2013 Thu 10:13 pm A part of my university´s campus:   Edited (1/3/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Times Higher Education World University Rankings Top 400 2012-2013

2376.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jan 2013 Thu 06:01 pm And that makes me wonder from which university you graduated from and which department?   I graduated from Samsun 19 Mayıs University, Turkish teaching. Edited (1/3/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/3/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Times Higher Education World University Rankings Top 400 2012-2013

2377.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jan 2013 Thu 05:44 pm   Quoting harp00n   http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2012-13/world-ranking/range/001-200       Where is Samsun 19 Mayıs University in this list?

Thread: numbers

2378.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jan 2013 Thu 05:29 pm   Quoting Turkish2412 is there any difference for between on beş/onbeş   beşyuz/beş yuz etc...?   If you write them together they become irrational numbers. And you become irrational too because you wrote them this way

Thread: AMAZING FACULTY

2379.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jan 2013 Thu 05:21 pm   Quoting harp00n Etmemişlerdi en son baktığımda, yardım bâbında ben söyledim ama ingilizce erişim yok artık, kaldırdılar sanırım   University of 1000Lakes is better than University of Batman harp00n liked this message

Thread: turkish or arab?

2380.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jan 2013 Thu 05:05 pm   Quoting levil3160     [IMG]http://www.teenforumz.com/picture.php?albumid=1314&pictureid=6995[/IMG]   Look like a human, it is more than enough. nifrtity, stumpy and tunci liked this message

Thread: (My Video) Saying Seni Seviyorum Before The World Ends

2381.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jan 2013 Thu 03:40 pm   Quoting stumpy well it seems like TC has turned into meet single Muslims No, I want to meet single Christians.    sashk liked this message

Thread: -mek üzere ve -mek için

2382.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jan 2013 Thu 03:38 pm   Quoting AlphaF     For me, yes... Example,   Ankaraya gitmek için trene bindim. Ankaraya gitmek üzere trene bindim.   The difference in meaning of the two sentences above is, - The first sentence identifies your intention to go to Ankara as your immediate goali. You will get on the train-spend the travelling time- get of in Ankara. There are no intermediate goals in between. - The second one hints that your intention is to arrive at Ankara eventually, yet there may be several less important intermediate tasks you must attend to before you reach Ankara. There may be more than one stop-overs on the way and your trip may take considerably longer than the first case. Arguable.

Thread: T to E please^^

2383.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jan 2013 Thu 03:11 pm   Quoting archinia HAYATI TESBİH YAPMIŞIM SALLIYORMUŞUM.... ADINI DUYDUKÇA AĞLIYORMUŞUM... DELİ DİYORLARMIŞ BENİM HALİME.... GELMİŞİNE GEÇMİŞİNE SAYIYORMUŞUM....   They say I have made life a rosary and I shake it. They say I cry when I hear your name. They say I am crazy. They say I curse at her now and past. Edited (1/3/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: T to E please^^

2384.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jan 2013 Thu 03:05 pm   Quoting archinia I don´t get it... so there is no need to be translated?   Archinia  I  will translate it for you and you decide whether it is useless or not.

Thread: Uses of -ip

2385.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jan 2013 Thu 12:26 pm   Quoting cim   As I understand it, -ip is used as a an alternative to and with successive verbs having the same subject. But, can it also be used to with gerunds, and participles? as a verb: ... gelip ... giddim. as an noun or adjective:  ... gelip ... given … as a adjective:  ... gelip ... gidiğim. ..      Adjective:  Gelip gittiğim ev.  The house which I come and go to.                  Beni gelip soran adam nerede? Where is the man who came and asked about me.   Noun:        Sevip saydıklarım beni aramaz oldu. People I love and respect don´t call me anymore.                   Gelip gören kaçıyor.  People who come and see run away. Edited (1/3/2013) by gokuyum Lololooo, basima and nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: T to E please^^

2386.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jan 2013 Thu 12:18 pm   Quoting archinia HAYATI TESBİH YAPMIŞIM SALLIYORMUŞUM.... ADINI DUYDUKÇA AĞLIYORMUŞUM... DELİ DİYORLARMIŞ BENİM HALİME.... GELMİŞİNE GEÇMİŞİNE SAYIYORMUŞUM....   Another useless Facebook poem. harp00n liked this message

Thread: -mek üzere ve -mek için

2387.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Jan 2013 Wed 11:48 pm   Quoting tunci     This is my understanding, may be someone else can explain better.   Nobody could explain better.    nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: One word t to e

2388.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Jan 2013 Wed 11:43 pm   Quoting tristerecuerdos Hey, would someone tell me what "minno/minnos" exactly mean? My friends are always like "minnos musun" "minnos ya" an im not sure what it is, is it like "buddy" or something? Please expalin. Thank you!   Minnoş comes from mini. It means like "my little" It is a word of affection.

Thread: A Nice Folk Song - Merdo

2389.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Jan 2013 Wed 11:25 pm Merdo - Aşık Mahzuni Şerif  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6dU7NYupHY Such a great song.    Sana bir gün olsun gülmedi hayat Kaderi berbat merdo merdo Burası gurbet burası gurbet Life hasn´t smiled at you even for one day Your fate is awful Merdo Merdo?* Here is foreign land, here is foreign land Gelme demedim mi merdo Dönme demedim mi Vururlar seni merdo merdo Söylemedim mi? söylemedim mi? Haven´t I said "don´t come!" Merdo? Haven´t I said "don´t come back!"? "They will shoot you" Merdo Merdo Haven´t I said? Haven´t I said? Köprünün başında pusu kurarlar Seni ararlar merdo merdo İzin sorarlar seni kırarlar They will lie in ambush in the corner of the bridge They will look for you Merdo Merdo They will trail you, they will kill you. Gelme demedim mi merdo Dönme demedim mi Vururlar seni merdo merdo Söylemedim mi? söylemedim mi?   Haven´t I said "don´t come!" Merdo? Haven´t I said "don´t come back!"? "They will shoot you" Merdo Merdo Haven´t I said? Haven´t I said?   Mahsuni yanıyor derdo bitti baharı Bahar ayları merdo merdo Soldu dağları yeşil bağları  Mahsuni is burning in sorrows, his spring ended In spring months Merdo Merdo His mountains and green wineyards have wilted Gelme demedim mi merdo Dönme demedim mi Vururlar seni merdo merdo Söylemedim mi? söylemedim mi?   Haven´t I said "don´t come!" Merdo? Haven´t I said "don´t come back!"? "They will shoot you" Merdo Merdo Haven´t I said? Haven´t I said?   Note: I guess Merdo is a nickname. I haven´t heard such a name. "Mert" as a noun means "brave man". Merdo is a way of adressing to a brave man. This type of adressing (with "o" at the end) is especialy common in Eastern Turkey.   Edited (1/2/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/2/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/2/2013) by gokuyum Edited (1/2/2013) by gokuyum ikibir, Beriwan and nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: ....the problem is that...

2390.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Jan 2013 Wed 05:49 pm   Quoting Abla From a learner´s point of view, there are two types of Turkish speaking natives. Group one makes you visit your dictionaries all the time. When you are trying to undestand what group two is saying you seldom need a dictionary. Those people force you to think, to utilize and combine everything you have learned over and over. I have a slight feeling the border between these two groups follows the front lines of this language battle.   Group one or group two, finally smoke comes from your ears.   Just kidding. People speak in millions of ways and have millions of reasons to speak the way they speak. Which group am I in? Or am I alone again?

Thread: Answer this Question !

2391.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Jan 2013 Wed 12:57 am Turkish to Turkish would be good. We need it.

Thread: Another short one please?? Turkish English

2392.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Jan 2013 Wed 12:54 am   Quoting Jibalarter Karizma yi kim kaybetmis biz bulalim     Thamk u!   It means we/I don´t have charisma.

Thread: Another short one please?? Turkish English

2393.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Jan 2013 Wed 12:52 am   Quoting Burhancan Let´s find out someone who lost face.   OR   Let´s find out someone losing face. face?  karizma = charisma.

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

2394.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Dec 2012 Mon 08:26 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb A CHRISTMAS CAROL PART II  As Fred was leaving, two gentlemen came to the office. They were collecting money for the poor,but Scrooge said he didn´t believe in giving money to people who didn´t work-even at Christmas. When the time came to close the office,Scrooge spoke to this clerk. ´I suppose you want a day off tomorrow.´ ´If you don´t mind,sir.´ ´Well,I do mind.Why sould I pay you for a day´s work,when you don´t do anything.But I suppose you must have it. ´ With that,Scrooge went home to his cold,dark house.   Fred çıkarken,iki bey ofise geldiler. Onlar yoksullar için para topluyordular,ama Scrooge çalışmayana para vermeye inanmadığını söyledi-hatta Noelde bile. Ofisi kapatmak için zaman geldiğinde,Scrooge katibiyle konuştu. ´Bir izin günü gün izin istediğini zannediyorum.´ ´Eğer sakıncası yoksa´ ´Var.Birşey yapmadığın zaman neden sana ödemeliyim? Ama bu olmalıdır zannediyorum.´ Bununla,Scrooge eve gitti,soğuk,karanlık evine. PS:Happy New Year! <3 <3 <3 You don´t have to check this now,I´ll leave now,and I won´t come soon. And probably you also celebrate New Year.      Great attempt. nemanjasrb and ulak liked this message

Thread: T to E

2395.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Dec 2012 Mon 03:06 pm   Quoting impulse Have you everseen a Christian taking a ram to HIS/HER house on the Feast of the Sacrifice holiday?   This means if they don´t celebrate Sacrafice Festivel, why do we celebrate New Year? Henry liked this message

Thread: RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN SERBIA AND TURKEY;TURKS OPINION ABOUT SERBS

2396.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Dec 2012 Sun 10:46 pm Being a good person is the most important thing. I would always prefer a good Serbian to a bad Turk. nemanjasrb liked this message

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2397.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Dec 2012 Sun 02:20 pm   Quoting HaNNo   "Pazarcı Kemal elindeki oyun kağıtlarını masanın kirli mermerine atıp kalktı". Kemal the seller threw the game’s cards in his hand to the dirty marble of table and got up. Does my translation make any sense?   And what is the meaning of atlat in "Şu kız gelirse atlat gitsin"?   Yes it makes sense. atlatmak here means to put (someone) off, get rid of (someone).  HaNNo liked this message

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2398.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Dec 2012 Sat 11:13 pm , Edited (12/30/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: T to e short help please

2399.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Dec 2012 Sat 07:41 pm   Quoting tristerecuerdos Hey would someone kindly translate me this? I think i understand it but i´m not sure. What does "annemin telefonunda ne ariyo aq" mean? thanks if you took your time to help me! I appreciate it. aq is abbreviation of a swear word. There is no spoiler button so I will translate it openly. It means literally f..k your/her  p..s.y. But we can tranlate it as "what the f..k"   Now I don´t know the context so both translations below can be correct: 1)Why is it in my mother´s phone? 2)What does he/she search for in my mother´s phone?   But first one seems more possible.   Edited (12/29/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/29/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/29/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: I am look from turkey? :)

2400.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Dec 2012 Sat 07:27 pm   Quoting Elisabeth     I always tease my husband and say I can always tell a Turkish man from his shoes.  (To me, Turkish men always wear really nice shoes, even if they are only wearing jeans).  I would have to see your shoes, gokuyum to tell you if you look Turkish to me!   I wear simple sport shoes. Instead of paying for them I buy books. I like reading  a lot. So as you see I like reading and I don´t wear nice shoes. What is my chance to be a Turk?   Edited (12/29/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Short E to T Lutfen

2401.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Dec 2012 Sat 07:17 pm   Quoting ikicihan when i was learning english, perfect tense, past perfect tense, and past perfect continuous tense quite hard for me. after all my effort i learnt them but in united states past perfect tense is not used, perfect tense is rarely used. There is a saying in Turkish: "A bear roars on my ass" That is my relationship with English past tenses.   Edited (12/29/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/29/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: What happened to user statics?

2402.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Dec 2012 Sat 07:14 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb     That happened at the same time when my PM gone. I hope that someone can fix that.   You broke this site nemenja. This happened because of your PM. Now fix it

Thread: pleas correct

2403.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Dec 2012 Sat 07:12 pm 2012 only gave me more exams and more translations. 2012 please go and don´t come back. nifrtity liked this message

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2404.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Dec 2012 Sat 07:08 pm Ne facebookmuş bu arkadaş yav! Aileyi yıkacak.

Thread: What happened to user statics?

2405.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Dec 2012 Sat 07:07 pm I can´t see my and other´s stats. What happened to them? Where am I in the all time best scoring users? nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: ....the problem is that...

2406.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Dec 2012 Sat 10:49 am   Quoting vona       Tell your attorney he should not bother himself for answering me on behalf of you as I have already got the answer.     Lol. Don´t you see you behave like a prosecutor. She doesn´t have to answer your questions. You can´t force her.     The reason of puricification was always political. It was to build a new, modern Turkish identity. And to do that they wanted to change the language. This way they wanted to cut the people´s ties with Ottoman culture. They thought Ottoman language and culture were obscurant, degenerate and unnational. They started to take verb and word roots from old Turkish languages and create new words.  This way they thought they would have a national, pure Turkish language. But people couldn´t understand this new language. Because these old Turkish and artificial words were foreigner to them than Arabic and Farsi ones. Ataturk saw this situation. And he found a third way. He claimed all the languages had been originated from Turkish with his Sun-Language theory.. All the foreign words in our language were actually Turkish. This meant our language was pure and national from the beginning. So it was not a threat to new Turkish identity. But after Ataturk had died, people started to oppose his Sun-Language theory. It was not scientific. Accepting his theory wrong meant our language was not a national language again. So puricification started again.   http://w3.balikesir.edu.tr/~iacar/btt.htm Here is a quote:   Atatürk´ün dil politikası olarak tasfiyecilikten vazgeçildiğinin en sağlam belgesi, 24-31 Ağustos 1936  günlerinde toplanan  Üçüncü Dil Kurultayı’nın  son günü Kurum Genel Sekreteri İbrahim Necmi Dilmen tarafından Atatürk´ün de bulunduğu toplantıda okunan "Kurultay Raporu"dur.   Bu raporda şöyle denilmektedir:               “Güneş-Dil Teorisi, şimdiye kadar dilimize yabancı sanılan dillerdeki varlıkların Türk kaynağından geldiğini ispat etmekle amelî sahadaki dil çalışmalarımıza büyük bir genişlik ve kolaylık vermiştir. Halkın bildiği, manasını anladığı kelimelerin yabancı dilden geliyor sanılarak fedâ edilmesi zarureti bu teori ile ortadan kalkmış bulunuyor.”[21]   [21]  Üçüncü Dil Kurultayı, Tezler Zabıtları, İst. 1936,s.12.   Edited (12/29/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/29/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/29/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/29/2012) by gokuyum nevbahar liked this message

Thread: trk to eng pls

2407.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2012 Fri 11:55 pm   Quoting britturk Ben aileye katıldım sen aileden çıktın bunu unutma senin ayse disin da bu aile ile hic bir alakan olamaz niye eski kocanin akrabalari seni hala ilgilendiriyo onlarla iletisim halindesin bunu da anlamis degilim.bu bir.ikincisi benim Ayşeyle hiç bir sorunum yok olamadı olmayacakta her zaman bende gereken ilgiyi nezaketi ona gösterdim..hala gösterdiğimi de biliyorum..ama ayse değil sen biraz mesafeli dur artık.ve Ayşe´nin facebookunu bırak ayse kullansın sen degill.bu arada sen kimsinde bana seni bagisliyorum diyorsun komiksin sadece. Don´t forget that I joined the family and you are out of it. You don´t have any connection with this family except Ayşe. Why do you still care about your ex husband´s relatives? Why are you still in contact with them? I don´t understand this. I have no problems with Ayşe. I didn´t have and I will not have. I have always showed her the neccessary kindness and affection. You know I do. Not Ayşe but you should keep your distance. And don´t use Ayşe´s facebook, let her use it. And how do you dare to say that you excuse me. You are only comic.   Note: I will not translate anymore. Women´s fight never ends. I am an old man   hunchback, Adam25, tomac and nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: trk to eng pls

2408.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2012 Fri 11:42 pm   Quoting britturk Ben aileye katıldım sen aileden çıktın bunu unutma senin ayse disin da bu aile ile hic bir alakan olamaz niye eski kocanin akrabalari seni hala ilgilendiriyo onlarla iletisim halindesin bunu da anlamis degilim.bu bir.ikincisi benim Ayşeyle hiç bir sorunum yok olamadı olmayacakta her zaman bende gereken ilgiyi nezaketi ona gösterdim..hala gösterdiğimi de biliyorum..ama ayse değil sen biraz mesafeli dur artık.ve Ayşe´nin facebookunu bırak ayse kullansın sen degill.bu arada sen kimsinde bana seni bagisliyorum diyorsun komiksin sadece.   This seems like a beginning of a long fight. I hope it will not be as long as our language discussion. I call it Language Wars now.

Thread: ....the problem is that...

2409.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2012 Fri 11:33 pm If they accept my opinion I will let them go By the way do you see that I can´t get any proper answer to my posts. Any scientific proper answer with a proper source. Edited (12/28/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: ....the problem is that...

2410.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2012 Fri 11:21 pm   Quoting vona     Why don´t you answer my question? IS YOUR TURKISH MISERABLE?  It is not. But it would be way better. This is your answer. I wonder what you will ask now.   Edited (12/28/2012) by gokuyum Aida krishan liked this message

Thread: please help

2411.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2012 Fri 11:15 pm   Quoting britturk You seem to have mistaken my kindness for weakness so let me be clear. As you have no experience of parental responsibilities your views are redundant. As you are a recent addition to the "family" I excuse your ignorance of the fact that the adults within the family do not need your permission to communicate with me, as they are intelligent and articulate enough to have their own opinions. Both Milly and I under trying circumstances , always remained courteous despite your childlike jealousy. Please try and do the same. Please remember it is Milly who is the child and Milly comes first. Sen benim nezaketimi zayıflıkla karıştırıyorsun bu yüzden daha açık konuışacağım. Senin ebeveynlikle ilgili sorumluluklar hakkında hiç tecrüben olmadığı için fikirlerin geçersiz. Aileye yeni katıldığın için aile içindeki yetişkinlerin benimle iletişim kurmak için senin iznine gerek duymadıkları gerçeği hakkındaki cahilliğini bağışlıyorum. Çünkü onlar kendi fikirleri olacak kadar zeki ve anlayışlılar. Milly ve ben sıkıntılı durumlar içindeyiz. Her zaman senin çocukça kıskançlığını nazikçe karşıladık. Lütfen sen de aynısını dene ve yap. Lütfen çocuğun Milly olduğunu ve onun herşeyden önce geldiğini unutma.

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

2412.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2012 Fri 10:57 pm   Quoting gokuyum   Another example:   Ahmet asked me "What are you doing?" Ahmet bana "ne yapıyorsun" diye sordu. You see you report Ahmet´s question (What are you doing?). So you should use diye after the question.    If you don´t want to use diye you can translate it like this:   Ahmet bana ne yaptığımı sordu. Ahmed asked me what I am doing.   nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

2413.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2012 Fri 10:54 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb   I´m not sure that I understood this.   Another example:   Ahmet asked me "What are you doing?" Ahmet bana "ne yapıyorsun" diye sordu. You see you report Ahmet´s question (What are you doing?). So you should use diye after the question.    nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

2414.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2012 Fri 10:37 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb A Christmas Carol I PART It was Christmas Eve,and Ebenezer Scrooge was sitting in his cold,miserable office. In the next room,his clerk,Bob Cratchit,was working. Chratchit´s office didn´t have a fire,so it was even colder than his boss´s. ´Merry Christmas,Uncle!´ cried a happy voice. It was Schrooge´s nephew,Fred.  ´Bah,humburg´ said Scrooge. He was a mean,cold-hearted old man and he hated Christmas Day,but Scrooge didn´t think people should celebrate,so he refused.   Noel arifesiydi ve Ebenezer Scrooge onun soğuk,sefil bir ofisinde oturuyordu.Yan odada,onun katibi,Bob Cratchit,çalışıyordu. Chratchit´in ofisinin ısıtması yoktu,öyleyse bu yüzden onun patronunun ofisinden hatta daha soğuktu. ´Mutlu Noeller,amca! diye´mutlu bir sesle bağırdı.. O Schooge´un yeğeni,Freddi.  ´Bah,riyakarlık´dedi Scrooge dedi. O kötü,soğuk kalplı yaşlı bir adamdı ve o Noel gününden nefret ediyordu,ama inşanlar onu kutlamalılar diye düşünüyordu,bu yüzden o reddetti.   IF SOMEONE HAVE SOME TRANSLATE FOR ME,LET´S GIVE ME,PLEASE...   You should learn what is "diye" and how you should use it. If you report something you use "diye".    He shouted to Ahmet "Come here now" Ahmet´e "hemen buraya gel" diye bağırdı.   But you can´t use "diye " with "demek"   He said Ahmet "Come here now "   O Ahmet´e "hemen buraya" gel diye dedi.  That is wrong. Discard "diye".   Edited (12/28/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/28/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/28/2012) by gokuyum cemsah and nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: I am look from turkey? :)

2415.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2012 Fri 10:23 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb     If that it´s your picture,I have to tell you that I agree with the others.. You look like a British,maybe... I think I look like a Turk more than you..  Sorry,that´s my opinion..   Oh nooo! I guess my family adopted me If you look like a Turk more than me show me the proof   nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: I am look from turkey? :)

2416.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2012 Fri 07:51 pm Nobody said me "You look like a Turk" in my life. I want to hear it so much

Thread: I am look from turkey? :)

2417.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2012 Fri 07:50 pm   Quoting MilesTraveller I´m not quite sure what do you mean. I guess you want to know if you look like Turkish ? Then my answer would be: why not   Is it a new trend? MilesTraveller liked this message

Thread: English to Turkish please

2418.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2012 Fri 06:42 pm   Quoting Lady_A You are my wish for the New Year.   Thank you very much!   That is so easy. Meh

Thread: turkish and hebrew song:)

2419.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2012 Fri 06:33 pm   Quoting levil3160 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOG0EDGoFZw   There is no Turkish in it.

Thread: Short E to T Lutfen

2420.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2012 Fri 06:28 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb   Thank´s a lot Burhancan.  But I have to ask you this:  Isn´t Konuşamam-I can´t speak.  Or that´s just difference between PRESENT SIMPLE and PRESENT CONTINUOUS?   Look nemenja we often prefer using present continous tense instead of present simple tense. So we don´t translate English verb always with the same tense.         nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: Short E to T Lutfen

2421.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2012 Fri 06:20 pm   Quoting DeniseLA How do I write in Turkish   "Sorry       i       can not speak   turkish   but     i       miss           you    so   much!" Üzgünüm  ben  konuşamıyorum  Türkçe   ama   ben   özlüyorum    seni   çok  fazla     This is our new translation method Edited (12/28/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: ....the problem is that...

2422.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2012 Fri 06:11 pm Alpha bu konu seni aşar. Getirdiğiniz tüm iddialara cevap verdim. Hem de kaynaklarla. İş şimdi laf kalabalığı yapmaya döndü. Eğer benim cevaplarımı bilimsel bir şekilde çürütebiliyorsan çürüt. Ben Türk-İslam edebiyatı bilim dalında doktora yapıyorum,önyargılarla değil birşey bildiğim için konuşuyorum. Tartışmanın seviyesini iyice düşürdün. Bu seviye yukarı çıkmadıkça ben sana cevap vermem.

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2423.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2012 Fri 06:06 pm   Quoting AlphaF           Cahilin cahilliğini kanıtlamak kolaydır fakat ona itiraf ettirmek güçtür. Hz.Ali

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2424.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2012 Fri 03:56 pm   Quoting gokuyum     Please don´t turn this to a political discussion. It doesn´t mean who opposes the puricification opposes Ataturk´s all revolutions. Ataturk himself understood the puricification had gone out of control and he presented a new language theory. According to his Sun-Language theory, all the other languages were originated from Turkish. So all the words we borrowed from other languages were our words. There was no need to change them anymore. I know this theory isn´t scientific but at least it is way better than puricification. http://www.tbmm.gov.tr/tarihce/ataturk_konusma/01_11_1938.pdf This document shows how he speaks in the last year of his life.   I said the last word, go to your homes quietly

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2425.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2012 Fri 03:35 pm   Quoting AlphaF   Devrimler bir bütündür...şu devrim iyiydi, bu kötü oldu diye bir şey yok...Çalışmayan devrimlerin rayına oturması daha sonraki yıllara bırakılmış ve halka emanet edilmiş. Bunun kıymetinin ve sorumlulğunun farkında varacak aklınız yoksa bile, düşününce garip fikirlerinizi burada yayabilme özgürlürlüğünü o devrimlere borçlu olduğunuzu idrak edebilmeniz gerekir. Arabistanda, Arapça konuşabilenler fikirlerini - hele aykırı fikirlerini- açıklayabilir mi sanıyorsun ? NOT. Simdi muhtemelen uslubuma itiraz edeceksin. Ben bir devrimciyim, sizlerin sahte kibar uslubunuzle konuşamam.   Please don´t turn this to a political discussion. It doesn´t mean who opposes the puricification opposes Ataturk´s all revolutions. Ataturk himself understood the puricification had gone out of control and he presented a new language theory. According to his Sun-Language theory, all the other languages were originated from Turkish. So all the words we borrowed from other languages were our words. There was no need to change them anymore. I know this theory isn´t scientific but at least it is way better than puricification. http://www.tbmm.gov.tr/tarihce/ataturk_konusma/01_11_1938.pdf This document shows how he speaks in the last year of his life. Edited (12/28/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/28/2012) by gokuyum

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2426.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2012 Fri 01:10 pm         Dağlar İle Taşlar İle   Dağlar ile, taşlar ile çağırayım Mevlâm seni Seherlerde kuşlar ile çağırayım Mevlâm seni Sular dibinde mâhi ile, sahralarda ahû ile Aptal olup yahu ile, çağırayım Mevlâm seni Gök yüzünde İsa ile, Tur dağında Musa ile Elimdeki asâ ile, çağırayım Mevlâm seni Derdi öküş Eyyup ile, gözü yaşlı Yakup ile Ol Muhammed-i mahbub ile çağırayım Mevlâm seni Hamd ü şükrullah ile, vasf-ı Kulhüvallah ile Daima zikrullah ile, çağırayım Mevlâm seni Bilmişim dünya halini, terk ettim kıyl ü kalini Başı açık, ayak yalını, çağırayım Mevlâm seni Yunus okur diller ile, ol kumru bülbüller ile Hakkı seven kullar ile, çağırayım Mevlâm seni     Foreign words: Arabic: mevla(x8), seher,sahra, aptal, yahu,  asa, mahbub, hamd, şükrüllah, vasf-ı külhüvallah, zikrullah, hal, kıyl ü kal, bülbül, Hakk, kul, terk Farsi: mahi, ahu     If you accept Yunus´s Turkish was pure, what was your problem with Ottoman Turkish? Maybe we should simplify Yunus too. He would be more understandable? Edited (12/28/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/28/2012) by gokuyum

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2427.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2012 Fri 12:46 pm   Quoting AlphaF     This book is not an Arabic Language text book. It is designed to convey the approximate meaning of original Quran, in Turkish. There are Arabic Language text books to learn the language from. I would have thought you would know the difference.     I know it is not a textbook. But it can be still useful if you are not a beginner.

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2428.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2012 Fri 12:44 pm   Quoting Abla   Translate into your mother language.   Instead of crying for something that is gone why not work for a goal like this, a real cultural acchievement.   You might be just the right man for the job, gokuyum.       Don´t worry abla, we have their translations. And they suck. Edited (12/28/2012) by gokuyum

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2429.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2012 Fri 10:54 am You can find this kind of Qur´an translations. This can be useful to learn Arabic. http://www.kitaptakipcileri.com/Kuran-i-Kerim-ve-Satir-Arasi-Kelime-Meali-Bilgisayar-Hatli-Renkli-Diyanet-Muhurlu,PR-979.html Here is a page::    Edited (12/28/2012) by gokuyum Umut_Umut liked this message

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2430.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2012 Fri 10:49 am   Quoting Umut_Umut It is weird. Okay it doesn´t work properly  but it works.    Gökuyum thank you for that information. Could you please give us the  Turkish name of it?  And if you have a further information about that method, it would be appreciated.   Its Turkish name is "Satırarası" or "Satıraltı" Çeviri. Here is a link of a document for you.  http://www.belgeler.com/blg/1cl2/eski-anadolu-trkesiyle-yazilmi-satir-arasi-kur-an-tercmesi-gramer-metin-szlk-245b-320a-a-translation-of-qoran-which-were-written-in-the-period-of-old-anatolian-turkish Umut_Umut liked this message

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2431.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2012 Fri 09:32 am   Quoting AlphaF     Because making Fuzuli accessible to today is not their main concern.   Nobody can translate a poem perfectly. He can only try. And the translation of a poem will be always different than original. It will be only an interpretion of it by the translator. But the original poem will always be semantically richer than the translation. Look at my translations of Ottoman poetry and see how bad they are comparing to original ones. http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_53112

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2432.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2012 Fri 09:23 am   Quoting AlphaF   It is admirable if you can understand them, but not a must.  Shakespare wrote in English, for god´s sake. Can you say Fuzuli and Şeyh Galip wrote in Turkish ? İf you must identify yourself with someone from the past, why not take Yunus, Karacaoğlan...They wrote for you, in your own language (assuming Turkish is your native language), and what they wrote are not shallower in any comparison.       Yes, I can say Fuzuli and Şeyh Galip wrote in Turkish. Do you think Shakespeare wrote with pure English?  You can´t even understand Yunus Emre completely with this Turkish Here is a part of Yunus Emre´s Risaletü´n Nushiye. I can give you many examples like this from Yunus Emre.   Egerçi işlenür bühtân u gaybet   Ser-encâm oldılar bunlar melâmet   Ki gaybet cânıla kadîmi degül  Ki gaybet kandasa âdemi degül  Çü gaybet mertebesi küfre girür  Nasîbi neyise ol anı alur  Kimün kim agz’içinde gaybet ola  Sorusuz cümle yirde ol mât ola thehandsom liked this message

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2433.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Dec 2012 Thu 10:24 pm   Quoting ikicihan     I guessed something will go out of control! This is just beginning! We are discussing similar topics for about a human life. So your topic will never die and there may be a couple of hundred answers soon! "I will say the last word." This our motto and motivation   nemanjasrb liked this message

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2434.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Dec 2012 Thu 10:02 pm This is advanced:   Rakkâs-ı dest-efşân-ı cân müjde-i kudûm-i kâsıd-ı kerîmü’lmakâsıdların nezzâregiyân-ı gird-â-gird-i intizâra  iblâğ itdükde  her biri cüdâgâne cân-efşân-ı şâdmânî olup   Hoşâ ol nâme-i serbeste kim dildârdan geldi  Dahî açılmaduk bir goncadur gülzârdan geldi  diyerek zemzeme-endâz-ı nüh-perde-i seb’-tıbâk olmuşdur. Hakkâ  ki hâce-i bendergâh-ı şu’ûr ne zer-dûz-ı kâr-hâne-i belâgat olan  tab’-ı nâdire-kârları tarh itdügi perniyân-ı gül-bend-i cân-pesend  gibi bir mülemma’-ı nesîc-i berâ’at görmişdür ve ne nağme-i zîr- âheng-i nây-ı yerâ’aları gibi bir zemzeme-i sâmi’-firîb-i sâmi’anevâz işitmişdür.Sayrafî-i ‘ayârdân-ı insâf ol mevzû’-ı tabakçe-i  nükte-senci kılınan ferâyid-i ibârât-ı müste’ârâtı  keşîde-i sımt-ı  iz’ân ve vişâhu’s-sadr-i gâniye-i hacle-i cân itdükde andelîb-i hôş- nevâ-yı nâtıka terâne-perdâz-ı bezm-i tahsîn olup gül-bang-i senâ  ile tanîn-endâz-ı kubbe-i kâinât olmuşdur.Kâsıd-ı bî-ârâm tekâzâ- yı bî-hengâm itmegin bu makûle elfâz-ı rekîk-i nâ-der-berâber  irsâli ile iktifâ olundı

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2435.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Dec 2012 Thu 09:51 pm   If you understand these without dictionary, there is no problem. This is near to avarage.     1.  Dil-zinde-i feyz-i Şems-i Tebrîz    Ney-pâre-i hâme-i şeker-rîz 2.  Bu resme koyup beyân-ı aşkı Söyler bana dâstân-ı aşkı 3.  Kim vardı Arab´da bir kabîle    Mustecmi´-i haslet-i cemîle 4.  Ser-levha-i defter-i fütüvvet    Ser-hayl-i Arab Benî Mahabbet 5.  Amma ne kabîle kıble-i derd Bilcümle siyâh-baht u rû-zerd 6.  Giydikleri âftâb-ı temmûz İçtikleri şu-le-i cihân-sûz 7.  Vadîleri rîk ü şîşe-i gam    Kumlar sağışınca hüzn ü matem     121.  Vaktâ ki cenâb-ı Aşk bî-bâk Gam deştine düştü ârzû-nâk 122.  Ol tiyg ile Aşk-ı bark-cevlân Gam deştini etdi rîk-i meydân 123.  Her gûl-i bekâ ki çıktı râha Kıldı anı tu´ma tiyg-i âha 124.  Döndürdü zemîni âsmâna      Ejderleri reng-i kehkeşâna 125.  Etti ser-i dîvü gûlü sergi Verdi o sipâha nakd-i mergi     Edited (12/27/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/27/2012) by gokuyum

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2436.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Dec 2012 Thu 09:48 pm   Quoting vona     No educated person should need dictionary to understand this quatrain.  "vecd ile secde" is a saying and every good muslim know it. Actually every secde should be in vecd. Should not be? It is easy to assume that ceriha is now cerehat. By the way it is a made up word from Arabic cerh.  Mücerred (isolated) and its opposite is müşahhas (in PHI) (abstract x concrete) An entellectuel should know it eh? Is there any native here that do not know the meaning of na´aş and arş?  ... Just because half educated or ignorant people cannot fully understand the quatrain you blame the language reform.    There are three levels of Ottoman language used in literature. Simple, avarage and advanced. These are simple ones. I want people to understand at least avarage level.

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2437.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Dec 2012 Thu 09:40 pm   Quoting vona     Is this written in a completely different language?   Yâ Rab belâ-yı ‘aşk ile kıl âşinâ meni Bir dem belâ-yı ‘aşkdan etme cüdâ meni Az eyleme ‘inâyetüni ehl-i derdden Ya‘ni ki çoh belâlara kıl mübtelâ meni   The poem is from Fuzuli (1483 - 1556). Is there a word in the poem that you do not know the meaning? Do not we still use all these words: bela, aşk, aşina, dem, inayet, ehl, derd, müptela. Maybe only for cüda you would look at the dictionary.  Is there any Turkish member here that could say the poem is written in another language? So tell me what is the problem? @Gokuyum, you say you want to understand Fuzuli.. if you do not understand this poem (and his other poems with little bit help of dictionary), just go check your Turkish instead of blaming the others..    Don´t worry I understand it. And I appreciate its beauty. Understanding Fuzuli doesn´t mean understanding a few couplets of him. Fuzuli´s Turkish was plain and simple. Because of puricification you can´t understand all his works without using a dictionary. And Şeyh Galip was the sultan of whole Ottoman poetry. And its language was a little bit difficult. All I want is to understand them without using a dictionary. And I want people to see their beauty and how humanist they are. Ottoman Turkish was understandable we were the ones who made it unintelligible.   Edited (12/27/2012) by gokuyum

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2438.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Dec 2012 Thu 08:45 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb Thank´s Umut_Umut.  What do you wanted to say,gokuyum?   http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_55517 nemanjasrb liked this message

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2439.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Dec 2012 Thu 07:18 pm We are Jedis, you are Siths   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPPj6viIBmU Edited (12/27/2012) by gokuyum

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2440.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Dec 2012 Thu 07:17 pm Language Wars Episode 7 soon on TC nevbahar liked this message

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2441.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Dec 2012 Thu 06:06 pm The biggest orientalists are always Turks. There is a saying in Turkish: They hit a tree with an axe, tree said: Handle of it is made of me. Edited (12/27/2012) by gokuyum

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2442.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Dec 2012 Thu 05:54 pm   Quoting Abla I am sure I am not the only learner who is following this thread even though you Turks try your best to play us out of the field.   What is exactly wrong with modern Turkish? Doesn´t it serve well in every field of life from street talk, politics and marketing useless goods to literary art and science? Or do you need to change your speech into English for instance in certain situations or in order to express specified meanings? I never noticed. If you do you do it for other reasons, not because Turkish lacks things that other languages have.   You cannot actually have dictionaries of different languages compete with each other in thickness because the weight of vocabulary, grammar and non-linguistic information in a communication situation is different in every language. For instance, when an English speaker says I went a Russian speaker while making the same statement also speaks out whether he is male or female, if he ment starting that action or continuing it, whether his journey was one-way or he intended to come back, whether he went on foot or used a vehicle and so on. It doesn´t make English a poorer language, though.   We are coming to the very core of what is special about Turkish. Simplicity, transparency, even ambiguity, context boundedness. And on the other hand also richness in synonymes which dates back to Ottoman Turkish and which gives a chance not only to expanding vocabulary in number but also to expressing things more definately when needed. The power of Turkish, though, is in its grammar.   Yes but with it we can´t establish ties with our past. It should have been richer. If an English understand Shakespeare, I must understand Fuzuli and Şeyh Galip.

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2443.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Dec 2012 Thu 05:46 pm I will not argue in Turkish anymore. Because it is disrespectful to the foreigners. I explained my opinions both in English and Turkish. If someone wants to argue with me, I will argue with him/her in English. Edited (12/27/2012) by gokuyum

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2444.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Dec 2012 Thu 05:32 pm Ord. Prof.. Dr. Ali Fuad Başgil´in Türkçe Meselesi adlı kitabından alıntılar (yorumsuz):   Sene 1941. İstanbul Hukuk Fakültesi Dekânı’yım. Üniversite henüz vekâlete bağlıdır. Rektör rahmetli Cemil Bilsel, Maârif Vekili de Hasan Âli Yücel. İnönü devrinin Türkçe’mize insafsızca hücumları bütün şiddetiyle devâm etmektedir.     Ocak ayı başlarında Maârif Vekâletinden bir tâmîm: Fakültelerde ilim terimlerini öztürkçeleştirmek üzere birer komisyon kurulması ve çalışmaların hızlandırılması isteniyor. Rektör zaman zaman sordu. Çalışılıyor, dedim.     Mayıs içinde bir tâmîm daha: Fakültelerde öztürkçe komisyonlarının hazırladıkları ilim terimleri arasında koordinasyon yapmak üzere, Temmuz başından itibaren, tatil aylarında Rektörlükte bir koordinasyon heyeti toplanacağı, fakültelerin bu komisyona en az üç ve en çok altı üye ile katılacakları bildiriliyor, yâni iş ciddileşiyordu.   Sene 1944. Millet dili, bir zümre dili hâline gelmekte devam ediyor. Teşkilât kânûnundan sonra sıra ana kânûnların dilini kurmaya gelmiştir. Maârif Vekâletinde bir öztürkçe bürosu kurulmuş. Türkçemizi amansızca baltalamakta, mektep kitaplarının dilini değiştirmektedir. Üniversite fakültelerinde de benzerî bürolar aynı yolda. Hocaların üniversite hesâbına bastıracakları kitaplar evvelemirde bu bürolardan geçip dili burulduktan sonra bastırılacaktır. Sanki Türkiye’de yapılacak başka iş kalmamış gibi, başta Devlet Reisi olmak üzere, hükûmet bununla meşgul. Bu hâli gördükçe, memleketini seven her Türk aydını gibi, benim de içim eziliyor, ezâ duyuyordum.       Edited (12/27/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/27/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/27/2012) by gokuyum

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2445.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Dec 2012 Thu 05:18 pm   Quoting vona     Kimsenin Arapça ve Farsça kelimeleri kulağından tutup kullanım dışına attığı falan yok. Miadını dolduran kelimeler kendiliğinden elenip gidiyorlar. Bunu yapan bizzat halkın kendisi. Kimsenin kimseyi zorladığı yok. Mesela ister "netice" ister "sonuç" diyebilirsin. Hiç kimse seni ikisinden birini tercih ettiğin için kınamaz. Bak burada "yeğlediğin" kelimesini de kullanabilirdim ama aklıma ilk gelen tercih olduğu için tercih´i tercih ettim. Sonuçta (yani neticede) ilk aklına gelen kelimeyi kullanırsın. Çünkü o senin için daha kolaydır, daha kullanışlıdır. İşte halk tercihini eş anlamlı iki kelime arasından birisi için kullanmaya başladığında diğeri ölüme terkediliyor demektir. Gördüğün gibi Arapça, Farsça veya başka dillerden ödünç aldığımız kelimeleri kullanmaktan hiç kaçınmıyorum. Hatta bazen bir kavramın Arapçasını daha anlamlı bulduğum da oluyor. Mesela mümkün kelimesini seviyorum. Örneğin yerine mesela demeyi seviyorum. Menzil hâlâ erim´den daha fazla anlam içeriyor. (ihtiva ediyor da diyebilirdim) Bu ve bunun gibi şeyler.      Netice itibariyle geçmişimizden falan koptuğumuz yok. Bizim kadar geçmişiyle övünen başka millet mi var?  Ha,bir de şu; sanırım hiç bir dil tarihi boyunca Türkçe kadar saldırı ve işgal altında kalmamıştır. Bu nedenle onu İngiizceyle falan karşılaştırmak hiç de adil ve haklı bir yaklaşım değil. Elmalarla armutları karıştırıyor bazıları. Her dilin kendi serüveni vardır. Son söz, dilinin kimliği olmayanın kendi kimliği olur mu?  Sen o zaman dilde sadeleştirme diye sistemli bir olayın hiç olmadığını, bazı kurumların böyle birşeyi hiç teşvik etmediğini, dilde sadeleşmenin kendi kendine olduğunu söylüyorsun. Ama dilde sadeşemeyi savunan bazı yazarlar böyle bir sadeleştirmenin devlet eliyle yapıldığını ve bunun da oldukça yarar sağladığını söylüyorlar. Şimdi eğerki biri sana sürekli sadeleştirilmiş Türkçeyle yazılmış metinleri dayatsa, sen Arapça kelimeler kullandığında seni ümmetçilikle suçlasa, yabancı kitapları böyle bir çeviriyle Türkçe´ye çevirtse, Arapça ve Farsçasını dilden dışladığı için bir terime Türkçe´de karşılık bulamayınca İngilizce veya Fransızcasını dile soksa sen buna ne dersin?

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2446.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Dec 2012 Thu 03:43 pm Why were you born in America? Question of the day Yanii liked this message

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2447.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Dec 2012 Thu 03:32 pm   Quoting Abla Surprisingly it works to some extent, maybe because every syntactic function is marked in Turkish.   Where this method leaves you in trouble is when you try to translate indefinite compounds. It shows in the pre-/postposition structure on the first line of this text. Wasn´t it exactly compounds which was the most alien structure in old Turkish texts?   It doesn´t work properly with "for" , "with".

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2448.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Dec 2012 Thu 03:01 pm Now I will present you a different translation method. This method is called interlines translation method. It was used by Turkish translators to translate some Quranic verses 1000 years ago. This is word by word literal translation. I think it is really obvious why they gave up translating this way So I tried to translate a text with this method for a change. I hope it will be useful   He stopped opposite the child, and the two regarded each other. The dog O    durdu     karşısında   -    çocuk,   ve   -   ikisi      baktı    bir      diğeri.   -   köpek hesitated for a moment, but presently he made some little advances with his bocaladı   için bir     an        ama  birazdan   o   yaptı    bazı   küçük ilerlemeler ile   onun tail.     The child  put    out    his   hand and called him. In     an  apologetic  kuruğu.   -     çocuk çıkardı  dışarı  onun   elini   ve   çağırdı  onu. İçinde  bir    mahcup manner the dog    came  close. tarz        -     köpek   geldi    yakın

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2449.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Dec 2012 Thu 02:58 pm , Edited (12/27/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/27/2012) by gokuyum

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2450.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Dec 2012 Thu 02:37 pm Hocam başlıkta şu -du ekini soru eki gibi yazmışsın gözüme takılıp duruyor, Türkçe öğretmeni damarım kabarıyor, hırslanıyorum, ağlayasım, uluyasım geliyor. Lütfen onu düzeltir misin?

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2451.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Dec 2012 Thu 02:28 pm People let me remind you nobody reads long quotes. Please express your ideas shortly. Even one sentence can tell whole book. You can tell everything you want in a short paragraph. og2009 liked this message

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2452.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Dec 2012 Thu 02:24 pm   Quoting caliptrix   Şaka mı yaptın anlayamadım, kusura bakma     Gece uzun anlarsın

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2453.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Dec 2012 Thu 02:22 pm   Quoting gokuyum Alfabeyi değiştirmek bir dili yoksullaştırmaz ama sen dili sadeleştireceğim diye Osmanlıca ve Farsça kelimeleri atıp, yapma kelimleri ya da daha modernler diye Fransızca ve İngizce kelimeleri diline sokarsan tarihin ve kültürünle tüm ilşkin kopar ve kimliksiz kalırsın. Herkes sana başka bir kimlik biçmeye kalkar. Wow I talk so fancy   ikicihan liked this message

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2454.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Dec 2012 Thu 02:19 pm Alpha please learn how to paste a picture, I beg you. MilesTraveller liked this message

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2455.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Dec 2012 Thu 02:16 pm Alfabeyi değiştirmek bir dili yoksullaştırmaz ama sen dili sadeleştireceğim diye Osmanlıca ve Farsça kelimeleri atıp, yapma kelimleri ya da daha modernler diye Fransızca ve İngizce kelimeleri diline sokarsan tarihin ve kültürünle tüm ilşkin kopar ve kimliksiz kalırsın. Herkes sana başka bir kimlik biçmeye kalkar.

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2456.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Dec 2012 Thu 06:02 am   Quoting ümitli I´m wanting to travel to Turkey, and would like to know what opinions people might automatically have about me. Americans seem to have a bad reputation in other countries. An American, I can understand why this is, and worry about my country, but am thankful for it among the imperfections. Anyways, please tell me what Americans are known for (good and/or bad). I want to be prepared, and would like to be a good example for my country. Thank you for your answers! I guess we don´t hold women responsible of their countries´ policies. We just hate the men I am just joking. I think nothing bad will happen.   ümitli liked this message

Thread: Christmas in Turkey?

2457.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Dec 2012 Wed 05:43 pm   Quoting caliptrix     Very interesting. This is the first time I hear that 21 Dec is celebrated as "longest nigth" in Turkey. Is there a special Turkish name for this? En Uzun Gece Bayramı ?

Thread: Shadow of the Holy Book - Kutsal Kitabın Gölgesi - Pyhän kirjan varjo

2458.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Dec 2012 Wed 05:05 pm   Quoting Abla I always wonder the inner life of tyrants. A normal person gets embarassed when he or she is praised excessively but not these guys. They seriously think they deserve it and demand for more. People with personality disorders like narcissism are a burden to their environments and unfortunately sometimes  -  with the help of greedy opportunists  -  manage to make it to the top like Saparmurat Niyazov did.   Thanks for reminding us of Arto Halonen´s documentary film and the fate of one Turkic nation.   Wow. Money rules the world and human rights is just a fancy world. That is what I learnt from this documentary.

Thread: ....the problem is that...

2459.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Dec 2012 Wed 03:12 pm   Quoting si++     I blame it on the Ottomans.   For they adopted an alphabet not suitable for Turkish language, which barred literacy of Turkish people.   And for they imported Arabic and Persian words at the expense of Turkish ones to some unnecessary extends thereby creating an artificial language not to be understood by common people. An Empire´s language couldn´t be pure. Arabic and Farsi civilisations were way ahead of us. They influenced our language like English and French. We used Arabic alphabet because Arabic was the language of Islam civilisation. I don´t criticise alphabet change because even it couldn´t  cut our ties with our culture. But puricification destroyed our identity. And that identity was really humanist. But nobody knows it now and fanatics defend the opposite and decieve people.   Edited (12/26/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/26/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/26/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/26/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/26/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/26/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/27/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: George Eliot quote turkish translation needing a look over

2460.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Dec 2012 Wed 12:49 pm Ben herşeyin eleştirilip tartışılabileceğine inanıyorum. Bunu da saygısızlık kabul etmiyorum. Tabi eleştiri saygısız bir üslupla yapılmamışsa. Bazı eleştirileri hazmetmek insana gerçekten zor geliyor. Benim de tercümelerim eleştirildi, hatta İngilizce bilmediğim bile ima edildi. Yine de bu sitede ben en çok eleştiriler sayesinde birşeyler öğrendim. Burada kimsenin sizin eleştirinizi size saygısızlık etmek ya da sizi küçük düşürmek için yaptığını zannetmiyorum. Sizin de dediğiniz gibi geniş olmakta fayda var. harp00n and tunci liked this message

Thread: George Eliot quote turkish translation needing a look over

2461.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Dec 2012 Wed 11:42 am   Quoting turhan2007 Bu tartışma sabaha kadar sürer..Her zaman geniş düşünmek yeğdir..Anlam kayması denen şey  farklı bir şeydir.Burada ,anlam oturtması söz konusu olmuştur..Bu benim tercümemle gerçekleşmiştir..   Sizin tercümenizde dediğm gibi hiçbir sorun yok. Ama bu sizin tercümenizin de tek doğru tercüme olduğu anlamına gelmez. Herkes bir cümleyi ya da metni farklı bir şekilde algılayıp, farklı şekilde tercüme edebilir. Bu yüzden tercümelerde her zaman bir farklılık söz konusudur. Edited (12/26/2012) by gokuyum Umut_Umut and tunci liked this message

Thread: George Eliot quote turkish translation needing a look over

2462.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Dec 2012 Wed 11:36 am   Quoting turhan2007 Anlayamadığınız şey,anlatılmak istenenin ne olduğudur..Yazar,burada zamanın önemini vurgulaya çalışmış,siz de işin grameriyle uğraşıyorsunuz..Zamanın ,hedeflediğiniz bir şeyi yapma ya da olma durumunda, sizin insiyatifiniz ve gayretiniz gücünde, hedeflerinize ulaştırmada hiçbir zaman geç olmayacağını,yeter ki sizin gayretlerinizin olması gerektiğini anlatmaya çalışan bu ifadeyi anlamakta neden güçlük çekiyorsunuz???Anlamıyoru...Geniş bakın lütfen..Öyle ucuz bir şekilde anlam kayması var eleştirisini ona göre yapın.Ben de diyorum ki,siz okuduğunuzu anlama yeteneğine sahip değilsiniz.. Turhan bey siz de biraz ileri gidiyorsunuz. Miles  cümlenizi dilbilgisi yönünden eleştirdi. Ben de eleştirisinin doğru olmadığını ona izah ettim. Çevirinizin anlamıyla ilgili bir itirazı olduğunu sanmıyorum.   Edited (12/26/2012) by gokuyum Umut_Umut liked this message

Thread: George Eliot quote turkish translation needing a look over

2463.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Dec 2012 Wed 11:33 am   Quoting MilesTraveller   O zaman "olmak" tan sonra bir virgül koymak gerek sanirim. Diger türlü okuyunca bir tuhaf oluyor.     Olmaktan sonra virgül koyamazsın. Ama zamandan sonra koyabilirsin. Umut_Umut liked this message

Thread: George Eliot quote turkish translation needing a look over

2464.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Dec 2012 Wed 11:23 am   Quoting MilesTraveller Zaman olmak ya da yapmak istediğin şey için asla geç değildir..   Biraz anlam kaymasi var gibi. Sadece ilk kismi alip cülmenizi tamamlarsak : Zaman olmak icin asla gec degildir anlamca düsük bir cümle. Fakat "yapmak istedigin sey icin asla gec degildir." temiz bir cümle gibi geldi bana. Isin üstadlari daha iyi bilirler tabi. Miles, "olmak" bu cümlede "istediğin" sıfat-fiilinin nesnesi durumunda. "yapmak" da aynı durumda. Cümlenin ilk kısmını şöyle alman doğru olurdu: "Zaman olmak istediğin şey için asla geç değildir." O zaman cümlede bir problem olmadığını görürsün.   Edited (12/26/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: ....the problem is that...

2465.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Dec 2012 Wed 11:12 am   Quoting Abla     Too much to ask.   What a good standard language can do is to unite the nation, so that people from Diyarbakır and Istanbul understand the same TV show.     All I defend is our standart language could be richer and still understandable.

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

2466.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Dec 2012 Tue 11:30 pm   Quoting tunci       Very Good, Nemanja. And this is my translation attempt ;    Benimle buluştuğunda, O ben olmayacağım. anılar ve hatıraların kırıntıları olacak.. şimdi ise geriye kalan sadece boş bir sancı.. pişmanlığın boş sancısı.. ve şu an ne yapıyorsun ,umurumda değil.. zira geriye kalan , sonbahar yağmuru.. damla damla, yağmaya hazır.. bilmeni isterim, deli değilim seni düşündüğüm için damla damla, yeniden yağacak o uzun sonbahar yağmurları bir kez o günler ağardığında beni arama beni sorma , soğuk yürek bana soğuk bir yürek verdin ve kal olduğun yerde.         Tunci, do you know Serbian language?  nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: Merry Christmas

2467.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Dec 2012 Tue 10:13 pm   Quoting MilesTraveller Merry Christmas for those who celebrate it (:   If someone gives me sweets and chocolate, I can celebrate it nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: ....the problem is that...

2468.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Dec 2012 Tue 09:29 pm   Quoting vona     Do you ever happen to know what was the percentage of literacy before 1928? Only 9%. This means only 9% could buy and read a book. Do you think all this 9% was a bookworm? And what was the total number of printed books at that time?  Was there a "relationship with this literature" that "they" could cut?    Do you think all the relation must be written? Can´t they listen and memorize a poem? If there was no relation with Ottoman poetry because of literacy, what kind of a relation was there with folk poetry?   On the other hand we never cut our relationship with Köroğlu (16th c) , Karacaoğlan (17th c), Dadaloğlu (18th c), Pir Sultan Abdal (15th c) even if all they all lived in Ottoman era. Why? Maybe because they used a pure Turkish which is still understandable even in 21th c? So how could you make a connection between the purification of the language and rising religious fanatism?    Don´t you know why? Ottoman poetry would also be understandable like them if there was no puricification.  Look I guess you think folk poetry and Ottoman poetry had no interaction. And folk poetry was so pure. But that is wrong. Click these links and look at the folk poems t if you don´t believe me . And answer me how folk poets could write these poems if they didn´t understand Ottoman poetry? People understood Ottoman poetry, if they didn´t, there would be no interaction between Ottoman and folk poetry.  http://www.edebiyol.com/aruz_olculu_halk_siirleri.html http://www.turkceciler.com/aruzlu-nazim-bicimleri.html http://www.edebiyatogretmeni.org/halk-siirinde-aruz-olcusuyle-yazilan-nazim-sekilleri/     Edited (12/25/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: ....the problem is that...

2469.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Dec 2012 Tue 05:03 pm   Quoting Umut_Umut      Ordinary people never understand what they wrote.    Do you think ordinary people now fully understand modern Turkish literature? Do they fully understand Orhan Pamuk or Ece Ayhan? They don´t fully understand them. But I am sure they understand something. It was not different in Ottoman times too. People understood literature in different levels according to their knowledge. And don´t think all Ottoman literature was difficult to understand. With a little effort even now most of the people can understand most of it.   Edited (12/25/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: ....the problem is that...

2470.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Dec 2012 Tue 03:32 pm   Quoting vona   ikicihan, as I said earlier your point of view is political and not science based. Most probably you hate TDK because it´s founded by Atatürk. I understand you not liking Cumhuriyet and its education system but I don´t understsnd why you try to policitize a grammar discussion and over it hit the Cumhuriyet´s language reform instead of trying to help the learners to improve their knowledge.   Actually one of the reasons of this rising religious fanatism is the puricification of Turkish language. You think Ottoman literature was a fanatic religious literature. But it is wrong. It always talked about love, human and a merciful God. It always criticised fanatics. It was really humanist. By prucification of the language, they cut our relationship with this literature and also with this humanist approach. They did this because Ottoman language was hard to learn and  its literature was elitist, mystic and unrealist. But thinking they were doing the right thing, they let extreme religious ideas find a place and let the owners of them easily claim that those were the values of our forefathers. Now we are under the pressure of fanatism more than ever. Edited (12/25/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/25/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/25/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/25/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/25/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

2471.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Dec 2012 Tue 09:50 am   Quoting nemanjasrb    -Dün gece dairemin  kapısında kaldım.    -BU nasıl oldu? Anahtarlarını mı kaybettin mi?  -Hayır.Anahtarları dairemde unuttum[ayrıldım]. - O zaman nasıl girdin? -Pencereye tırmandım. -Sen ne? Eyvahlar olsun.Cesursun. -Teşekkür ederim. Aslında ne kadar iyi bir tırmanıcı olduğumu fark etmemişim. The others I´ll translate tomorrow,because I have to go now,tomorrow I have school. Can you check it?         nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: Most touching Turkish movies

2472.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Dec 2012 Mon 05:39 pm   Quoting Abla     If I cried it was just because I had something in my eye... It is because of cold climate

Thread: A Photo with no comments needed

2473.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Dec 2012 Mon 05:35 pm Indeed because we don´t see it Yanii, Aida krishan, tomac, MilesTraveller, Elisabeth and nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: ....the problem is that...

2474.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Dec 2012 Mon 05:31 pm   Quoting nevbahar enteresan hakikaten..türkçeninkine benzer hikayesi olan başka diller biliyor musunuz? özleştirmek adına reform üstüne reform yapan başka bir millet?gerçi o zamanlar maksat inkılap yapmaktı ya neyse..yurdum insanı atatürk vecizelerini sözlüksüz idrak edemez vaziyette..türkçenin bu acıklı haline hiç mi içiniz sızlamıyor ya? I completely agree with you nevbahar.

Thread: Need translation from english to turkish ! please help :(

2475.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Dec 2012 Sun 06:33 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb     14 You?   Really? So you are the living proof of that all teenagers don´t suck I am 29. But I feel 79. nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: Need translation from english to turkish ! please help :(

2476.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Dec 2012 Sun 06:15 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb     It´s forbidden to talk on native language,so I have to talk on English. I´m still going to Primary School,but we don´t have Turkish in High Schools neither. Only in Faculty. So I have to wait five years. But here I learned so much,never mind.   How old are you nemenja? nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: Need translation from english to turkish ! please help :(

2477.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Dec 2012 Sun 03:45 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb Dear Lejla   My name is Nora and i live in Mostar, that is a small city in Bosnia and Hercegovina . You live in Istanbul dont you ? What do you like to do in your free time and do you have a brother or sister ? I have two sisters they are called Sandra and Mia and in free time i like to draw and listen to music.What is the weather like there and how are you anyway.In Mostar the weather is really cold and i can not wait for summer to come, i do not like winter. See ya then in summer then i am going to visit you. I can not wait to meet you and i am so excited to see the beautiful beach in Istanbul. Bye for now  MY TRY:      Sevgili Lejla      Benim adım Nora ve ben Mostar´da yaşıyorum.O Bosna-Hersek´te küçük bir şehirdir. İstanbul´da yaşıyorsun,değil mi? Boş zamanında ne yapmayı seviyorsun? Erkek mi yoksa kız kardeşin mi var? Benim iki kiz kardeşim var. Onların adı Sandra ve Mia. Boş zamanımda resim yapmayı ve müzik dinlemeyi severim.Orada hava nasıl? Nasılsın? Mostar´da hava çok soğuk ve yazın gelmesini dört gözle bekliyorum,kışı sevmiyorum. Yazın görüşürüz,o zaman seni ziyaret edeceğim.Seni tanımak için sabırsızlanıyorum ve İstanbul´un plajlarıyı göreceğim için çok heyecanlıyım.    Şimdilik hoşça kal       nano_ish and nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

2478.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Dec 2012 Sun 03:36 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb Nemanja,try 5. 1.Your parents are going out. They want you to stay and look after your younger brother.But you´ve been invited to a party.You need a help,too. Talk to your parents.   Ebeveynlerin dışarı çıkıyorlar.Senin kalmanı ve kardeşine bakmanı istiyorlar.Ama sen bir partiye davet edildin.Yardıma da ihtiyacın var.Ebeveynlerin ile konuş. 2.You want to go out with a girl,but you don´t know what to say.Ask a friend to do it for you. Your friend doesn´t think it´s a good idea.   Bir kız ile dışarı çıkmak istiyorsun,ama ne diyeceğini bilmiyorsun.Senin için bunu yapmasını arkadaşından iste.Arkadaşın bunun iyi bir fikir olduğunu düşünmüyor.  3.Your friends are coming round to your house for the evening.Your younger brother wants to watch something on TV.Talk to him.   Arkadaşların akşam evine yuvarlak geliyorlar.Kardeşin birşey televizyonda birşey izlemek istiyor.Onunla konuş. 4.You want to go to the cinema with your friends. You haven´t got money. You didn´t help with the housework this week,so you didn´t get money.Talk to your parents.   Sinemaya arkadaşlarınla gitmek istiyorsun.Paran yok.Bu hafta ev işine yardım etmedin ve para almadın.Ebeveynlerin ile konuş. Great attempt.You have talent.   Edited (12/23/2012) by gokuyum tunci and nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: T to e please

2479.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Dec 2012 Sun 01:55 pm   Quoting MilesTraveller         I forgot ten MilesTraveller liked this message

Thread: t to e

2480.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Dec 2012 Sun 12:34 pm   Quoting Henry   my attempt If you search for someone virtuous like my mother, you will be a brave man like my father       basima and Henry liked this message

Thread: T to e please

2481.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Dec 2012 Sun 07:20 am   Quoting nifrtity her şey unutursun da bir seni unutanı unutmazsın You can forget everything except the one who has forgot you.   nifrtity and tunci liked this message

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2482.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Dec 2012 Sun 07:18 am   Quoting tunci       The first possible sentence is ; sigaraya aşk siirleri yazacam artık o haldeyim  I am in such a state that I may [even] write love poems for the cigarette      How about this one? He hasn´t smoked for a long time ad he misses cigarette so much so he can even write love poems for it. basima liked this message

Thread: ....the problem is that...

2483.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Dec 2012 Sat 07:21 pm   Quoting elenagabriela I am a bit confused.. why is not oynayamam Because it is still not a verbal noun. It is just a negative verb. You have to make it a negative verbal noun with -ma. We try to say "The problem is my not being able to play football" or, maybe, is about the noun - oynamama - but, in direct speaking, as native, how do you use it, I wonder...     Edited (12/22/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/22/2012) by gokuyum basima and nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: Who saved the world?

2484.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Dec 2012 Sat 03:42 pm http://www.bobiler.org/   ahmet_a1b2 and nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: ....the problem is that...

2485.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Dec 2012 Sat 03:28 pm   Quoting ikicihan     I don´t like the word "sorun", one of the made-up, strange, rootless words...   It has a root: sor-mak. What do you mean?

Thread: T to E

2486.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Dec 2012 Sat 06:32 am   Quoting Henry thanks for your corrections Gokuyum    You are welcome Henry. Henry liked this message

Thread: t to e

2487.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Dec 2012 Sat 06:28 am   Quoting ayse-eski her şey içine atarsın da, kendini atacak bir yer bulamazsın. ..   This sentence doesn´t make sense. But if we change atarsın to atacak it becomes meaningful. You can throw everything into yourself but you can´t find a place to throw yourself.   Note:"içine atmak" literally means "throw into" But it has a metaphorical meaning too. It is "to keep (a worry/problem) to oneself"  I translated it literally because there is a wordplay about "atmak":  "içine atmak" and "kendini atmak" Edited (12/22/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/22/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/22/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: T to E

2488.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Dec 2012 Sat 06:13 am   Quoting Henry   my attempt If you want to know a person, take care look at whether it he depends on Allah/God or people.

Thread: MAYA´S PREDICTION

2489.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Dec 2012 Fri 05:00 pm I still struggle with my exams.

Thread: reading

2490.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Dec 2012 Fri 04:59 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb In Present Continuous,for example: seviyor,biliyor,istiyor.. Is correct to not read R?   Not correct but understandable. nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: turkish -english please

2491.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Dec 2012 Fri 04:56 pm   Quoting MilesTraveller At the beginning there are some random stuff about Mayans. Some psychological stuff ..   I guess he has feelings for you. He says that he´s already been dead and to heaven earlier. There was everything one desires : wine, raki , all the beautiful girls but you weren´t there. So he came back to this hell ( I guess he means the world we´re living in now ) for you. Nevermind.

Thread: turkish -english please

2492.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Dec 2012 Fri 02:56 pm   Quoting keçi Hello Can anyone translate this please... I think it´s about the end of the world but I cannot understand the rest   Dunyanin sonu( Evet bu gun maya inanci ve takvimine Gore bir devir bu gece 12h30 da. Bitiyor yani insanlarin algilama bicimi ise dunyanin sonu(bu insanin nasil bir psikoloji´ye sahip oldugunu ve kendi ic dunyasindaki caresizligi Boyle bir olasilikla sonlandirmayi nasil istediginin net bir gostergesidir.Zaten yasadiklariyla kararlariyla her insan hayatinda kac son yasadiginin farkinda deyil.Dusunce ve mantik olarak elbette baslangic gibi bir´de son vardir.Maya´ya donecek olursak bu sivilasitionun varligindan baska astrologie ve matematikte cok ileri olduklarindan ve kayip olduklarindan baska ne bilim nede teknoloji hic bir bilgiye ulasmadi(varsayimlar haric)Ben sana hep anlatirdim (marduk)sende bana ton marduk harduk derdin)Ben Dun gece kiyamitten once gittim cennete zaten dunyanin sonu diye cehennemi kapatmislar cok guzeldi her sey var ne istersen raki Sarap butun guzel kizlar yani ne dilersen istersenhemen oluyor ama.Ama s´en yoktun Ben geri geldim tekrar bu cehenneme.... It is long and waste of time.   MilesTraveller liked this message

Thread: (My Video) Saying Seni Seviyorum Before The World Ends

2493.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Dec 2012 Fri 10:13 am   Quoting Abla This could be the first scene of a horror movie valla.   Lol.

Thread: (My Video) Saying Seni Seviyorum Before The World Ends

2494.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Dec 2012 Fri 10:09 am   Quoting Abla Spooky. Gives me shivers.   Video or apocalypse? Don´t worry abla nothing will happen.

Thread: Message from Turkish Girl

2495.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Dec 2012 Fri 10:02 am   Quoting pompermaier Hi there, I´d received an email from a turkish friend, and she started her message with this text: NASILSIN? UMARIM HERSEY YOLUNDADIR! TURKCENI GELISTIRDIGINE GORE BU YAZDIKLARIMI DA ANLIYORSUNDUR HERHALDE, DEGIL MI? What does it means? Could anybody help me? Thank´s a lot Leandro Pompermaier   It seems you haven´t improved your Turkish at all nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: One more sentence please E to T

2496.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Dec 2012 Fri 09:22 am   Quoting elenagabriela çok sağol çok kibarsın aslında 2 senedir kendim kendimi öğreniyorum..   Great. I congratulate you. elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: One more sentence please E to T

2497.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Dec 2012 Fri 09:18 am   Quoting elenagabriela teşekkür ederim ben daha önce sözlükta bakarken, sadece incinmek buldum o zaman tekrar sordum anladım şimdi tekrar teşekkür ederim ve hayırlı cumalar   Your Turkish is great. Do you go to a Turkish course?

Thread: (My Video) Saying Seni Seviyorum Before The World Ends

2498.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Dec 2012 Fri 04:59 am   Quoting stumpy already sitting in the bus waiting   Lol.

Thread: (My Video) Saying Seni Seviyorum Before The World Ends

2499.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Dec 2012 Fri 04:55 am   Quoting stumpy hum!  nope, you will have a few friends along with you for the ride   You mean yourself? Come and find me then

Thread: (My Video) Saying Seni Seviyorum Before The World Ends

2500.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Dec 2012 Fri 04:35 am Come on. Apocalypse is at the door. Instead of making a video I wrote many poems(they are in my profile) for who I love but she hasn´t come back to me. I guess I will go to hell alone Edited (12/21/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: One more sentence please E to T

2501.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Dec 2012 Fri 04:28 am   Quoting elenagabriela tamam anlıyorum but still I cant understand how incitmek was derivatised   inci-t-mek   So the root of the verb is incimek. We don´t use this root alone anymore. We use incinmek form of it.   http://www.sozce.com/nedir/168506-incimek

Thread: Please E to T please

2502.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Dec 2012 Thu 07:09 pm   Quoting MilesTraveller Darn ^^ I know. I wasn´t serious anyway. I like your nickname by the way!   Thanks.

Thread: One more sentence please E to T

2503.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Dec 2012 Thu 07:04 pm   Quoting gokuyum "-t, -it," yapım ekiyle türetilmiş sözcüklerde de genel­likle yumuşama olmaz. The nouns and verbs wihch were derived by "-t, -it" derivational affixes generally don´t soften. taşıt-a, kanıt-ı, anıt-ın, konut-u, karşıt-ı, yanıt-ı.. these are nouns. anlat-an, korkut-ucu, dedirt-en, okut-ur, taşıt-ır...these are verbs

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2504.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Dec 2012 Thu 03:57 pm   Quoting MilesTraveller Anlıyorum. Sana ne yazdı bilmiyorum, bilmek de istemıyorum çünkü çok üzülebilirim. Fakat beni en çok üzen şey senin ona inanmandı. Affederim ama asla unutmam.   ı or i? red or redder? By the way I didn´t say "My apple is redder" to express my translaion is better. On the contrary I wanted to mean that if I had said so I would have behaved like a seller who says "My apple is redder" Edited (12/20/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/20/2012) by gokuyum MilesTraveller liked this message

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2505.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Dec 2012 Thu 03:54 pm   Quoting MilesTraveller     Her yiğidin ayrı bir yoğurt yiyişi vardır . All of a sudden my apple got redder ^^   Agree. You even started to use red font

Thread: One more sentence please E to T

2506.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Dec 2012 Thu 03:51 pm "-t, -it," yapım ekiyle türetilmiş sözcüklerde de genel­likle yumuşama olmaz. The nouns and verbs wihch were derived by "-t, -it" derivational affixes generally don´t soften.

Thread: One more sentence please E to T

2507.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Dec 2012 Thu 01:23 pm   Quoting Milacik Only people I like and care about can hurt me...   Thank you   Sadece hoşlandığım ve önemsediğim insanlar beni incitebilir. elenagabriela liked this message

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2508.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Dec 2012 Thu 12:47 pm   Quoting Milacik Thank you guys. But which one is more appropriate??????    My apple is redder   Note. They are not very different. Milacik liked this message

Thread: Do Turks Like Their Own Language? turkish vs arabic,etc..

2509.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Dec 2012 Thu 12:45 pm   Quoting DisiBayanAsk       Thanks for the info goku goku-chan   Lol.

Thread: Do Turks Like Their Own Language? turkish vs arabic,etc..

2510.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Dec 2012 Thu 12:39 pm   Quoting DisiBayanAsk     Do Turks like their own language?         No, we like English better. DisiBayanAsk liked this message

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2511.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Dec 2012 Thu 12:22 pm   Quoting MilesTraveller Anlıyorum. Sana ne yazdı bilmiyorum, bilmek de istemıyorum çünkü çok üzülebilirim. Fakat beni en çok üzen şey senin ona inanmandı. Affederim ama asla unutmam.   Her yiğidin ayrı bir yoğurt yeyişi vardır MilesTraveller liked this message

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2512.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Dec 2012 Thu 12:15 pm   Quoting Milacik Please, can u help translate this:   I understand. I don´t know what he wrote to you and I don´t even want to know, because I would get to upset. But what hurted me the most was, that you think that was true... I do forgive, but never forget... Anladım. Sana ne yazdığını bilmiyorum, bimek de istemiyorum çünkü bu beni çok üzer. Ama beni en çok inciten şey senin onun doğru olduğuna inanmandı. Affederim ama asla unutmam. Thank you     Edited (12/20/2012) by gokuyum Milacik liked this message

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2513.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Dec 2012 Thu 12:11 pm   Quoting Abla 2 Slang   yakıyor/ateşli phat (pretty hot and tempting)   Just like -Iyor was creating a participle function. Could it be? You can´t use yakıyor as an adjective. For example "yakıyor elbise" is wrong. But "elbise yakıyor" is correct. As you see it is a verb.

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2514.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Dec 2012 Thu 04:31 am yakmak has a slang meaning too. It means to be fancy. Yakıyor means "it is fancy". DisiBayanAsk liked this message

Thread: honey , plz come back

2515.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Dec 2012 Thu 04:23 am   Quoting insallah I have just seen this first post was done in 2006. Think I will have a long time waiting for a reply.   Gok what led you to this post today Just nostalgia inshallah. Then I saw this pearl   DisiBayanAsk liked this message

Thread: What is the problem?

2516.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Dec 2012 Wed 04:02 pm   Quoting AlphaF     They should try eating their own bullets and bombard other countries with cheese packages. That will immensly help worl peace ! Lol. They sometimes do it for a change.   DisiBayanAsk liked this message

Thread: A poem written by Magnificent Suleiman to Hurrem Sultan

2517.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Dec 2012 Wed 03:59 pm   Celîs-i halvetim varım habîbim mâh-ı tâbânım  Enîsim mahremim varım güzeller şâhı sultânım My resident of solitude, my everything, my beloved, my shining moon My friend, my privacy, my everything, my shah of beautifuls, my sultan   Hayâtım hâsılım ömrüm şarâb-ı Kevser’im Adn’im  Bahârım behcetim rûzum, nigârım verd-i handânım My life, my existance, my lifetime, my wine of youngness, my heaven My spring, my joy, my day, my beloved, my laughing rose. Neşâtım işretim bezmim çerâğım neyyirim şem´im  Turunc ü nâr ü nârencim benim şem´-i şebistânım My delight, my wine, my tavern, my lamp, my light, my candle My orange and pomegranate and sour orange, my candle of night Nebâtım sükkerim gencim cihân içinde bî-rencim  Azîzim Yûsuf’um varım gönül Mısr’ındaki hânım My plant, my sugar, my treasure, my delicate in world My saint, my Joseph, my everything, my Khan of my heart´s Egypt. Stanbul’um Karaman’ım diyâr-ı milket-i Rûm’um  Bedahşân’ım ve Kıpçak’ım ve bağdâ’ım Horasân’ım My İstanbul, My Karaman, my land of Rum My Bedehşan, my Kıpchak, my Bagdad, my Horosan Saçı varım kaşı yâyım gözü pür-fitne bîmârım  Ölürsem boynuna kanım meded hey nâ-Müslümân’ım My long-haired, my bow like eyebrow, my eye full of discord, my patient My blood is on your hands if I die, mercy o my non-Muslim Kapında çünki meddâhım seni medh iderim dâim  Yürek pür-gam gözüm pür-nem Muhibb’îyem ve hoş hâlim I am a flatterer near your door, I always praise you Heart is full of sorrow, eye is full of tears, I am Muhibbi and I am happy.                                                                                                  Muhibbi(Magnificent Suleiman)   Muhibbi is the pen name of Magnificent Suleiman. It is believed that this poem was written for Hurrem Sultan by him. Such a great poem. I wanted to share it.   Edited (12/19/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/19/2012) by gokuyum alameda and DisiBayanAsk liked this message

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2518.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Dec 2012 Wed 03:03 pm   Quoting girleegirl     Yes, America has a huge appetite for guns but there is also a huge wave of support for a ban on assault weapons. And by the way....we also have a huge appetite for cheese!  I think eating so much cheese makes you angry   aprilgail, basima and Milacik liked this message

Thread: Please E to T please

2519.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Dec 2012 Wed 02:55 pm   Quoting Milacik Please can someone translate this:   There is so much I want to say, but I can´t find the right words... Söylemek istediğim çok şey var ama doğru kelimeleri bulamıyorum..... You said you care about me and you don´t want I get hurt.... Beni önemsediğini ve incinmemi istemediğini söyledin.... I would never do anything to put my life in danger, not because of me ( I´m already done, I wouldn´t be here anymore), but because I have my girls and they need me, I have to fight... Kendi hayatımı tehlikeye atacak hiçbir şey yapmam. Sadece kendim için değil, kızlarım olduğu ve onların bana ihtiyacı olduğu için de. Mücadele etmeliyim.... Why do you think I don´t want to have any connections with him? He is not part of my life anymore, all finished long time ago... Onunla hibir bağlantımın olmasını istemediğimi niçin düşünüyorsun? O artık hayatımın bir parçası değil, herşey uzun zaman önce bitti... Look, last year I was living in big house, I didn´t need to work, I had everything what I wanted, but I wasn´t happy. I gave up all this, just to find a peace.... Bak geçen yıl büyük bir evde yaşıyordum, çalışmaya ihtiyacım yoktu, istediğim herşeye sahiptim, sırf biraz huzur bulabilmek için tüm bunlardan vazgeçtim.... I don´t know if you still have my messages from two months ago, but if yes, read what I wrote to you at that time.... İki ay önceki mesajlarım duruyor mu bilmiyorum ama eğer duruyorlarsa o sıralar sana neler yazdığımı oku... You don´t need to worry about my ex, he can´t see what I write on FB, because he is in my blocked people list. Benim eski eşim hakkında endişelenmene gerek yok, facebookta ne yazdığımı göremez çünkü blok listemde. I think, I found friend in you. Friend, I can go to and have a laugh with, when I need a break from all this.... But maybe I was wrong!!! Sende bir arkadaş bulduğumu sandım. Tüm bunlardan sonra nefes almaya ihtiyaç duyduğumda gidebileceğim ve birlikte gülebileceğim bir arkadaş....Ama belki de yanıldım!!! I still want to be in contact with you, I don´t have nothing to hide. But now all depends only on you. It is your decision... Ama hala seninle temasta olmak istiyorum. Saklayacak hiçbir şeyim yok. Şimdi herşey sana kalmış durumda.Karar senin... I just want you are truthful to me.... Sadece bana dürüst olmanı istiyorum...   Thank you very much for your help!!!  You are welcome. I wish you happiness.     Edited (12/19/2012) by gokuyum Donkeyoaty, basima, nemanjasrb and Milacik liked this message

Thread: Ottoman Poetry

2520.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Dec 2012 Wed 08:17 am uyan ey gözlerim gafletten uyan uyan ey uykusu çok gozlerim uyan azrailin kastı canadır inan uyan ey gözlerim gafletten uyan uyan ey uykusu çok gozlerim uyan semavatın kapılarını açarlar alemlere rahmet suyu saçarlar seherde kalkana hulle biçerler uyan ey gözlerim gaflletten uyan uyan uykusu çok gözlerim uyan                                     Sultan III. Murad       Wake up my eyes, wake up from absentmindness Wake up o my sleepy eyes, wake up Azrael´s intention is to take life, believe me. Wake up my eyes, wake up from absentmindness Wake up o my sleepy eyes, wake up       They open the gates of heavens They spill the water of mercy to universe They tailor cloth of heaven for who wakes up in the morning Wake up my eyes, wake up from absentmindness Wake up o my sleepy eyes, wake up   This poem was written by Sultan III. Murad after he had missed the morning prayer. It was composed by Ali Ufku Bey.    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGyfAszzdbQ   Great, relaxing song.   Note. Unfortunately my eyes hasn´t still woken up       Edited (12/19/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/19/2012) by gokuyum Umut_Umut liked this message

Thread: Bir şey yok

2521.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Dec 2012 Wed 07:46 am Kirpiklerim döküldü bak balıklar yedi gözlerimi  Eksildim öylesine beni tamamlasana  Öyle bir bütün et ki bir daha bozulmayayım  Her şey var, bir şey yok diyorum anlasana...    Look my eyelashes fell out, fishes ate my eyes I have become less, complete me. Make me such a whole so I will not be ruined again I say there is everything but one thing is absent, please understand.   Good poem. Edited (12/19/2012) by gokuyum nemanjasrb liked this message

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2522.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Dec 2012 Wed 07:36 am   Quoting niobe What is the original contribution of Türkiye and Turkish Culture to the literature of the world?   My poems

Thread: anneciğim

2523.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Dec 2012 Wed 07:23 am Anneciğim  anneciğim seni ben  çiçeklerden yemişten  sarı saçlı bebekten  canımdan çok severim    Mommy, I love you more than flowers, fruits, more than blond-haired barbie, more than my life. gitme hep yanımda kal  beni kollarına al  pembe gülden daha al  yanağından öperim...   Don´t go please always stay with me, take me in your arms, I kiss your cheek which is redder than rose. Donkeyoaty liked this message

Thread: honey , plz come back

2524.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Dec 2012 Wed 07:11 am   Quoting yusuf i met her at this site , i love her so much , she left me...... just beause she said our cultre is deffrents plz tell her , i cant sleep my nights my tears is on my face i miss u plz i... come back plz honey if u read this forum just i want u feel how is sorrow in my heart i pig u come back to me.... plz my firnds she is member is this iste so pz ask her to come back to me .iam crying   Edited (12/19/2012) by gokuyum DisiBayanAsk liked this message

Thread: Most touching Turkish movies

2525.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Dec 2012 Tue 03:17 pm   Quoting Abla     (Yavuz Turgul 1996)   I liked the way tragic and humorous elements meet in this movie. A man from the mountains who has been in prison for 35 years comes to Istanbul for the first time in his life. He is both amazed and confused. There is a strange peace and silence around Eşkıya and Şener Şen´s face expresses so much without words.   The contrast between the old bandit and the gang of young backstreet houligans makes you think of the level on which we people meet each other.   Eşkıya grows from a victim into a mythical character who gives everyone what he deserves. Or maybe not. All the killing in the last scenes was not well reasoned in my opinion. Baran saves a young policeman´s life as a gesture of mercy but shoots a man who beats his wife with no pain of conscience. A less fantastic end would have been more to my taste.   Women are presented as patients in this story. But once they make an action of their own things take a new course always. They are like catalysts in a chemical reaction.   Great analysis abla. Note. Eşkiya is a cult movie now.

Thread: A LOOK AT CHINEESE LADIES

2526.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Dec 2012 Tue 08:28 am   Quoting AlphaF     http://www.youtube.com/embed/1vA4T1wfJLE?rel=0   Wow.

Thread: Extremely short Turkish English translation... Please help

2527.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Dec 2012 Tue 08:23 am   Quoting keçi Can anyone help ?   Ne kazandigini bilmiyorum   AMA....Umarim ve Dilerimki...Béni kayip. Ettigine..DEYMISTIR...   Thank you    I don´t know what he/she/you gained but I hope and wish it was worth losing me. Edited (12/18/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/19/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/19/2012) by gokuyum MilesTraveller liked this message

Thread: Turkish suffixes

2528.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Dec 2012 Tue 03:10 am   Quoting roxanatv Hi, I´d like to know if someone knows a good site where I can find all the turkish suffixes.. ? Thank you   There are thousands of Turkish suffixes if you include their variations. I am not sure you can find a site which has all of them. Henry liked this message

Thread: T-E please

2529.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Dec 2012 Tue 03:01 am   Quoting Abla What is difficult about it is putting it into English. I am 2 X yabancı.   Lol. Abla. You are right. You are 2 X yabancı when it comes to translate a Turkish text to English. We are only 1X yabancı. God help you

Thread: GÖKTÜRK - 2

2530.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Dec 2012 Mon 04:41 pm Lol. When will I be in space? Next millenium?

Thread: What is the problem?

2531.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Dec 2012 Mon 04:33 pm There is no problem. They just don´t like cheese By the way if you sell these weapons to everybody, you can´t prevent some pshycopaths killing innocent children.

Thread: GÖKTÜRK - 2

2532.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Dec 2012 Mon 04:10 pm   Quoting tunci     What about this way Gok ? We can send you space in Turkish way as in following ;            I can´t see it.

Thread: GÖKTÜRK - 2

2533.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Dec 2012 Mon 04:09 pm   Quoting Abla gokuyum the space-man.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-datSXjyHR8

Thread: GÖKTÜRK - 2

2534.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Dec 2012 Mon 04:08 pm   Quoting tunci     As you both have smilar names surely you will get a seat in there Gok. But do u want one way or return ?   One way. My green friends can bring me back.

Thread: GÖKTÜRK - 2

2535.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Dec 2012 Mon 04:05 pm   Quoting Umut_Umut     Unfortunately there is no seat it is just a satelite not a space craft I fancied it so different. You destroyed my dreams.

Thread: Bektashi Jokes

2536.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Dec 2012 Mon 04:01 pm   Quoting AlphaF Bektaşi Fıkrası   Adamın biri olmaz bir iş için dilekte bulunmuş ve demiş ki;  A person whished an almost impossible thing and promised "Yüce Allahım.Bu işim olursa Galata kulesine sırtımda eşek çıkartacağım.."  O mighty God! If you accept my wish, I will climb up to Galata tower with a donkey on my back. işi olmuş, adak sözünü yerine getirmek lazım.. Almış eşeği gelmiş Galata kulesine.. His wish was accepted. He must have kept his promise. So man took a donkey and came to the Galata tower. Bir eşeğe bakmış, bir kuleye, ama gözü yememiş.. But after looking at donkey and tower, he couldn´t dare. İlerde oturan Bektaşi babasının yanına varmış; He went near a  Bektashi father sitting a little further away. "Baba erenler bana bir akıl ver" demiş ve anlatmış olayı. He said "Give me an advice dervish" and told the subject. Bektaşi babası sormuş "İçki içer misin?".. adam "Haşa ömrümde ağzıma sürmedim".. Bektashi father asked "Do you drink alchole?" Man said "I have never drunk it." Baba gene sormuş "Tütün içer misin?".. adam "Haşa"..Kumar, Father asked "Do you smoke cigarette?" Man said: "Never"  Zamparalık,hovardalık "Haşa !.." Gambling, rascality, womanizing? "Never" Ona haşa, buna haşa.. "Never" to this, "never" to that Bektaşi babası "Anlaşıldı evlat " demiş.. Bektashi father said "It is understood my son". "Bak, hiç eşeği yorma, sen kendin çık yeter!.."   Look, don´t make donkey tired. You just climb alone.           Edited (12/17/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Muslim beliefs? Strong or not? foreign women? opinions.

2537.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Dec 2012 Mon 03:44 pm   Quoting AlphaF  It is not easy to have sex in Turkey.   Its a pity you dont listen to our Priminister. His advice is that you get married at once, if that is your problem. You can have three kids, a lot of financial misery, but sufficient sex.   no money = no marriage = no sex = no shame

Thread: GÖKTÜRK - 2

2538.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Dec 2012 Mon 03:40 pm   Quoting AlphaF Türkish made satelite (GÖKTÜRK-2) will be launched tomorrow.   Is there a seat for me?

Thread: Bektashi Jokes

2539.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Dec 2012 Mon 10:53 am Dilenci el açmış dileniyor, hem de dua ediyormuş. A beggar was begging and praying. Bektaşi on para vermiş, “Duanı istemem!” demiş… Bektashi gave 10 pennies and said: "I don´t want your prayer." Dilenci şaşırmış: “Niye duamı istemiyorsun?” Beggar was suprised: Why don´t you want my prayer? “Ulan senin duan beş para etseydi, kendini kurtarır, dilenmezdin!” If your prayer worthed a penny, you would save yourself, you wouldn´t beg.

Thread: Muslim beliefs? Strong or not? foreign women? opinions.

2540.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Dec 2012 Mon 05:20 am Stumpy is right. But there is another factor. It is not easy to have sex in Turkey. Because virginity is still taboo. Most of the woman don´t want to have sex before marriage. Because of this many horny young man tries to attract foreign women.

Thread: NAGEHAN ALCI

2541.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Dec 2012 Mon 05:13 am   Quoting ikicihan i don´t share links over internet if i am not sure about it. even if i am sure about something, then still i think if it is right to share the news... It may harm someone unknowingly. --- Ey iman edenler! Size bir fasık bir haber getirirse, bilmeyerek bir topluluğa zarar verip yaptığınıza pişman olmamak için o haberin doğruluğunu araştırın. Kur´ân-ı Kerim, Hucurât - 6   O you who have believed, if there comes to you a disobedient one with information, investigate, lest you harm a people out of ignorance and become, over what you have done, regretful. The Noble Qur´an, Surat Al-Ĥujurāt, 49:6   I agree. Lets wait and see.

Thread: NAGEHAN ALCI

2542.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Dec 2012 Mon 12:29 am ,   Edited (12/17/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: T2E please

2543.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Dec 2012 Sun 03:16 pm   Quoting kiz_kiz You´re such a kind soul and did not let me die of curiosity   Thank you, I try to make some sense of it.   Good luck

Thread: On Pronouns

2544.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Dec 2012 Sun 03:15 pm   Quoting Abla     That is what I suspected. So am I close if I translate   az ´too little/few, something lacking´ biraz ´not much but enough´ çok ´too much/many, more than enough´ birçok ´quite much/many but don´t get me wrong I am not complaining about the great number of the objects´ ? I agree.   kaç/birkaç of course occur in different discourses (question/declarative) but how much does is birkaç actually mean? Is biraz + singular referent, birkaç + plural referent a valid rule? No. After birkaç there must be a singular referent too. Ex: Birkaç kitap aldım

Thread: T2E please

2545.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Dec 2012 Sun 03:02 pm   Quoting kiz_kiz Sen benim yerimde olsaydın acaba bana bir hiçbir şans tanırmıydın keşke benim sevdiğim biride bana bu kadar bir fırsat verseydi.   thanks!   If you were in my shoes, would you give me a chance? I wish someone who I love would give me this many opurtunuties.   Note: I don´t understand these sentences. There are incohorencies in them. I hope you understand them. Edited (12/16/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/16/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: En2Tr please & thanks

2546.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Dec 2012 Sun 02:09 pm   Quoting kiz_kiz How ironic, you, the master of coldness complaining about me being cold! And you got some nerve to talk about love when you are unable to love me back! For your peace of mind, if I were in front of you I probably wouldn´t be able to resist you and be this cold   Soğukluk üstadının benim soğuk olmamdan yakınması ne kadar manidar. Beni sevemediğin halde aşk hakkında konuşacak cesaretin de var. Yine de rahatlaman için söylüyorum, senin karşında olsaydım sana direnemez ve bu kadar soğuk olmazdım.   You give up easily, eh? My translation credit for you is coming to an end today

Thread: Best Opening Sentences of Literature History

2547.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Dec 2012 Sun 01:53 pm   Maybe someone try to translate them   1. J.D. Salinger Çavdar Tarlasında Çocuklar "Anlatacaklarımı gerçekten dinleyecekseniz, herhalde önce nerede doğduğumu, rezil çocukluğumun nasıl geçtiğini, ben doğmadan önce annemle babamın nasıl tanıştıklarını, tüm o David Copperfield zırvalıklarını filan da bilmek istersiniz, ama ben pek anlatmak istemiyorum. Her şeyden önce, ben bu zımbırtılardan sıkılıyorum." 2. Leo Tolstoy Anna Karenina "Bütün mutlu aileler birbirine benzer, her mutsuz ailenin mutsuzluğu kendine göredir." All happy families look alike, unhappiness of all unhappy families are different. 3. Jane Austen Aşk ve Gurur "Parası pulu olan her bekar erkeğin kendine bir yaşam arkadaşı seçmesinin kaçınılmaz olduğu, herkesçe benimsenen bir gerçektir." "Dunyaca kabul edilmis bir gercektir, hali vakti yerinde olan her bekar erkegin mutlaka bir ese ihtiyaci vardir." (Hamdi Koç çevirisiyle) 4. Charles Dickens İki Şehrin Hikayesi "Akıl çağıydı, budalalık çağıydı da. İnanç çağıydı aynı zamanda inkar çağıydı da. Bir taraftan aydınlık bir taraftan karanlık mevsim yaşanıyordu. Umudun baharıydı, yeisin kışı. Her şeyimiz vardı ama hiç bir şeyimiz yoktu. Hepimiz doğruca cennete gidiyorduk ama hepimiz cehenneme de gidiyorduk." 5. Virginia Woolf Bayan Dalloway   6. Anne Tyler Back When We Were Grownups (Yetişkin Olduğumuz Zamanlar)   7. F.Scott-Fitzgerald Muhteşem Gatsby "Toy çağımda bir öğüt vermişti babam, hala küpedir kulağıma: "Ne zaman," demişti, "birini tenkide davranacak olsan, hatırdan çıkarma, herkes senin imkanlarında gelmemiştir dünyaya!"   8. Sylvia Plath Sırça Fanus "Garip, boğucu bir yazdı." It was a weird, chocking summer.   9. Herman Melville Beyaz Balina "Ishmael deyin bana. Birkaç yıl önce -kaç yıl önce olduğu önemli değil paramın azaldığı ya da hiç kalmadığı bir sırada-, karada da beni ayrıca bağlayan bir şey olmadığı için, bir engine açılayım, bu dünyanın denizlerini şöyle bir göreyim dedim. Ben böyleyimdir; böyle bulurum sıkıntıdan kurtulmanın, uyuşan kanıma hız vermenin yolunu."   10. Douglas Adams Otostopçunun Galaksi Rehberi "Galaksinin Batı Sarmal Kolu´nun bir ucunda, haritası bile çıkarılmamış ücra bir köşede, gözlerden uzak, küçük ve sarı bir güneş vardır. Bu güneşin yörüngesinde, kabaca yüz kırksekiz milyon kilometre uzağında, tamamıyla önemsiz ve mavi-yeşil renkli, küçük bir gezegen döner. Gezegenin maymun soyundan gelen canlıları öyle ilkeldir ki dijital kol saatinin hâlâ çok etkileyici bir buluş olduğunu düşünürler."     http://www.sabitfikir.com/haber/edebiyat-tarihinin-en-iyi-100-giris-cumlesi Edited (12/16/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/29/2012) by gokuyum ümitli liked this message

Thread: Tr2En please and thanks again

2548.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Dec 2012 Sun 01:41 pm   Quoting kiz_kiz Sorry for the lack of punctuation... Benden neden Bu kadar soğudun ben sevdiğim insana bir kere sarıla bilmek için neler vermezdim demek beni Sevmemişsin.   Why are you that much cold to me? I would give everything to be able to hug the person I love. It seems you have never loved me.

Thread: Ottoman Poetry

2549.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Dec 2012 Sun 01:36 pm Kıl san‘at-ı üstâdı tahayyürle temâşâ, Dem urma, eğer ârif isen çûn ü çirâdan.   Watch the art of Master with amazement Don´t ask why or how if you are wise.   İdrâk-i me‘âlî bu küçük akla gerekmez, Zîrâ bu terâzû o kadar sıkleti çekmez.   This small mind doesn´t need to understand it Because this scales can´t weigh that much weight.                                              Ziya Paşa   I love these couplets a lot. Edited (12/16/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/16/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/16/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: OLDUĞU or Kİ

2550.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Dec 2012 Sun 12:57 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb     Tekrar sağ olun... So,in last expamle,you use dative,as far as I know. I am sad that he goes/you go. I didn´t understand why dative,but neber mind. I´ll learn later,it´s not too important right now. One more time,thanks.. It is dative because verb wants it.   Gittiğini duydum. I heard that you went.   Now it is acusative. It is all about which case verb wants.   Edited (12/16/2012) by gokuyum HaNNo, lana- and nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: Ottoman Poetry

2551.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Dec 2012 Sun 12:40 pm Erbâb-ı kemâli çekemez nâkıs olanlar; Rencîde olur dîde-i huffâş ziyâdan.   İgnorants can´t endure wises Light hurts the eyes of bats.   Her âkile bir derd bu âlemde mukarrer, Râhat yaşamış var mı gürûh-ı ukalâdan!   There is always a trouble for the wise Has any wise person ever lived in comfort?                                          Ziya Paşa (1825-1888)

Thread: En2Tr please and thanks

2552.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Dec 2012 Sun 12:13 pm   Quoting kiz_kiz Well, it´s good to know these things now, though you never showed me any of them. But it doesn´t matter anymore. I don´t know how I would behave if we see each other again. Bana hiçbirini daha önce göstermemiş olsan da bu şeyleri bilmek hoş. Ama artık hiçbir önemi yok. Birbirimizi tekrar görünce nasıl davranırım bilmiyorum.

Thread: TEST HOW GOOD YOUR TURKISH IS

2553.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Dec 2012 Sun 12:08 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb 6/10    I guess "ben soğuğum" decieved most of you. It is a literal translation that doesn´t make sense in Turkish. nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: On Pronouns

2554.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Dec 2012 Sun 12:07 pm   Quoting Abla What is the difference between                              az and biraz                            çok and birçok                            kaç and birkaç                            şey and birşey? I don´t know. It is the same thing with little/a little, few/ a few.

Thread: OLDUĞU or Kİ

2555.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Dec 2012 Sun 12:00 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb 1)Sometimes,I´m not sure about that. Which would I use,olduğu,or ki? 2)And,I´m not tottaly sure that I understood olduğu .. Shall I use for: I heard what you said. - Söylediğini duydum??? If someone can,let give me more exapmles...  More examples is better...   1) Why do you hesitate? 2)Olduğu means that it/he/she is or that it/he/she was  (predicate´s tense is important) +Ex: Hasta olduğunu biliyorum.  I know that  he is sick. "biliyorum(predicate) is present"        Hasta olduğunu bilmiyordum.  I didn´t know that he was sick. "bilmiyordum(predicate) is past."   Söyle-dik-in-i that you say Söyle-dik-i-n-i that he says   They look same but they are different. So you should guess which one is meant according to context.   Gittiğine üzülüyorum. I am sad that he goes.                                I am sad that you go. Edited (12/16/2012) by gokuyum lana- and nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: En to Tr please

2556.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Dec 2012 Sat 03:29 pm   Quoting kiz_kiz I said I will not bother you anymore and I am keeping my word. I will not answer your last question because who I am with is none of your business. Or is it? I hope you are well and enjoy the winter in Uludag.   Thank you. Seni artık rahatsız etmeyeceğimi söyledim ve sözümü de tutuyorum. Son sorunu cevaplamayacağım çünkü kiminle birlikte olduğum seni ilgilendirmez. Yoksa ilgilendiriyor mu? Umarım iyisindir ve Uludağ´da kışın tadını çıkarıyorsundur.

Thread: t-e lutfen

2557.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Dec 2012 Sat 03:24 pm   Quoting 12skipafew   Sus git lan acinda geberecen baslarim parana da pulunada gonderme   Shut up and go. You will almost die of hunger. I don´t want your money. Don´t send it.

Thread: T 2 E just ONE WORD

2558.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Dec 2012 Sat 03:18 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb Thank you. And what about olmamız?   our being nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: T 2 E just ONE WORD

2559.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Dec 2012 Sat 03:07 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb almanız? your taking/ your buying   nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: English translation needed/ someone less

2560.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Dec 2012 Sat 03:06 pm   Quoting Suzie281971   I´m having a hard time translating this poem into English. Your attempt would be much appreciated.      Susadı tenim tenine. yavaş yavaş içmek istiyorum seni. My skin is thirsty for your skin. I want to drink you slowly. hasret kaldı gözlerim senin gözlerine My eyes miss your eyes. sana hasret bir yürek var çok uzaklar da. There is a heart longing for you far away. görmeyince seni hüzün kaplar yüreğimi When I don´t see you, a sadness fills my heart. sarılmak ister bu beden senin bedenine. This body wants to hug your body.         Suzie281971 and basima liked this message

Thread: Tr2En please

2561.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Dec 2012 Sat 02:32 pm   Quoting kiz_kiz I may miss anything, but not my periods   Which periods?

Thread: Question from a linguist.

2562.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Dec 2012 Sat 02:08 am   Quoting Abla Bence, Prof. Dr. Eyice is a proper noun and the main word of that phrase. Everything else is modifying it.   It is a special Turkish way of quoting, quite difficult for a learner to read.   Exactly. But we name the phrases according to modifier. adjective(s) + noun = adjective phrase noun(s) +genetive/Ø + noun= noun phrase adjective phrase(noun) +genetive/Ø + noun= noun phrase Edited (12/15/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: t-e short translation please

2563.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Dec 2012 Fri 10:59 pm   Quoting Abla     My Try:   If he takes/buys (it) I will be amazed. This translation has a positive meaning. But in Turkish sentence there is an irony. Se doesn´t expect him to buy it. And if he buys it, it will be a shock for her.   Edited (12/14/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Question from a linguist.

2564.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Dec 2012 Fri 10:54 pm   Quoting Abla You Turks are using quite long noun phrases in real life. The pink part is all one NP and I think this is a typical structure in newspaper articles:   Sultanahmet Camisi’nin arkasında ”Arasta” tabir edilen ve yangın geçirdiği için yıllarca kullanılmadıktan sonra restore edilen çarşının giriş çıkışlarındaki sebillerin içlerinin çinilerle kaplı olduğunu, ancak o çinilerin birileri tarafından kırılıp götürüldüğünü anlatan Prof. Dr. Eyice´nin üzüntüsü, şunları söyledi:...   This is an adjective phrase abla. But if you add a noun after Prof. Dr. Eyice and if you connect it with a genetive suffix. It becomes a noun phrase. Edited (12/14/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: a little article from Müşfik KENTER(in Turkish)

2565.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Dec 2012 Thu 12:16 am This text deserves a translation even after 7 years. Quoting SuiGeneris Hep bir yerlere, bir şeylere yetişme telaşındasınız değil mi? You are always in a hurry of getting to somewhere and something in time, right? Hiç vaktiniz yok, "Fast live", "Fast food", "Fast music", "Fast love"... You have no time. "Fast live", "Fast food", "Fast music", "Fast love" Dikte ettirilen "yükselen değerler", "in" ler, "out" lar... "Rising values" which are dictated to you, ins, outs Buna benzer bir odada, şanslıysanız gökyüzünü görebilen bir pencere ardında bitecek hepsi ... If you are lucky all of them will end in a room like this behind a window that sees sky. Dostluğu klavyelerinde, yaşamı monitörlerinde arayanlar, Size sesleniyorum! You who search friendship on keyboards, life in monitors, I address you. Hangi tuş daha etkilidir ki sıcacık bir gülüşten ya da hangi program verebilir bir ağaç gölgesinde uyumanın keyfini? Which key is more effective than a warm smile or which program can give you the pleasure of sleeping under the shadow of a tree? Copy-paste yapabilir misiniz dalgaların sahille buluşmasını?... Can you copy-paste the meeting of waves with shore. İçinizi ısıtan gün ışığını gönderebilir misiniz maille arkadaşlarınıza? Can you send the day light wich warms you to your friends by e-mail? Sevgiyi tuşlarla mı yazarsınız? Do you write love by keys? Öpüşmek için hangi tuşlara basmak gerekir?.... In order to kiss which keys should we push? Ya da Geri dönüşüm kutusunda saklanabilir mi kaybolan zaman? Can the lost time be kept in recycle bin? Doğayı bilgisayarlarına döşeyenler, neden görmezsiniz bahçedeki akasyanın tomurcuklandığını. You who lay down the nature in your computers, why don´t you see the budding of acacias in the garden? Ve ıslak toprak kokusu var mıdır dosyalarınız arasında ?... And do you have the smell of wet soil in your files? Koklamak, duymak, dokunmak, yok mu yaşam skalanızda?.. Don´t you have smelling, hearing, touching in your life scale? Bilgi toplumu oldunuz da, duygu toplumu olmanıza megabaytlarınız mı yetmiyor? You have become a data community so you don´t have enough megabytes to become an emotion community?     Edited (12/13/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/13/2012) by gokuyum jacob34 and og2009 liked this message

Thread: Let´s discuss \"Kara Kitap\"

2566.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Dec 2012 Wed 05:15 pm Seyh Galip´s Hüsn ü Aşk has a big influence on Kara Kitap. Reading it can help you to understand the novel better.    http://www.amazon.com/Beauty-Love-MLA-Texts-Translations/dp/0873529340/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1355325109&sr=8-15&keywords=galip trip liked this message

Thread: Should Türkiye (Turkey) be ready to join European Union (EU) ?

2567.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Dec 2012 Wed 01:10 am EU doesn´t deserve me for now

Thread: test

2568.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Dec 2012 Mon 06:24 pm Turkish2412 and nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: MAYA´S PREDICTION

2569.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Dec 2012 Mon 06:17 pm I don´t care that world ends. I just want to pass my exams Efi70, Lavinia8, nemanjasrb, stumpy and og2009 liked this message

Thread: UNDERSTANDING THE GAME

2570.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Dec 2012 Mon 06:15 pm   Quoting AlphaF http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/90-percent-of-indians-are-idiots-justice-markandey-katju-302998 We had one who understood the game.....We burned him.   We didn´t burn him. We tried but luckily failed. But others couldn´t escape

Thread: more poems needing translation

2571.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Dec 2012 Mon 06:09 pm   Quoting Henry     As usual poems can be interpreted many ways, and literal translations always sound clumsy, but anyway here´s my try A poem is prepared for you I hope you will enjoy (it) I want to say the things that pass from my heart (and) I want to reach out to your heart It is hard to be able to say I love to be able to give the ear the sounds that come from inside (you) to be able to endure (love) is the most important (thing) and (to keep) the promise  great translation Henry.   Edited (12/10/2012) by gokuyum Henry liked this message

Thread: A Challange

2572.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Dec 2012 Sun 08:25 pm   Quoting Abla     Yes  -  that way it is in line with the last sentence of the paragraph also. Another try:   In this paper the theses defended by the realistic trend   1) which introduced ideas in the context of the relationship between literature and reality,   2) which was established on the principle of echoism and emerged in the latter part of the 19th century in France and   3) which was representated by authors like Stendhal, Balzac and Zola,   will be criticized.     Well done.You completely understood what I meant.

Thread: A Challange

2573.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Dec 2012 Sun 07:40 pm   Quoting Abla Bu incelemede" edebiyat ile hakikat ilişkisi bağlamında tezler öne sürmüş olan ve yansıtmacılık kuramı üzerinde temellenip 19. yüzyılın ikinci yarısında Fransa’da ortaya çıkan, temsilciliğini Stendhal, Balzac, Zola gibi yazarların yaptığı gerçekçilik akımı"nın savunduğu tezler eleştirilecektir.   I saw this as the main clause.   And you are sure inceleme de is not incelemede?   How about this? -de must be together as you say. Edited (12/9/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: A Challange

2574.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Dec 2012 Sun 04:40 pm   Quoting Abla Noldu?   They were worng. I think the key to translate the sentence is to understand the relation between these all adjective verbs and the noun "gerçekçilik akımı" Edited (12/9/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: A Challange

2575.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Dec 2012 Sun 04:32 pm   Quoting Abla       ereştirilmek is a passive verb!   I deleted my tips

Thread: A Challange

2576.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Dec 2012 Sun 04:24 pm   Quoting Abla     My Try:   The relationship between literature and reality is a disputable issue. There are many literary theories which research this question. These theories bring about theses which differ a good deal from each other. One of the reasons for this is the fact that it has not been possible to reach a compromise on what literature and reality are. Different ideologies in different times have tried to give a substance to those concepts. These concepts do not have fixed gists which would be independent on historical conditions. We have not in any period of history been able to reach a possibly valid definition in which we could have said “this is what literature is or this is what reality is”. In this paper the theses which introduced ideas in the context of the relationship between literature and reality, which were established on the principle of echoism and emerged in the latter part of the 19th century in France and whose representation was defended by literary realism created by writers like Stendhal, Balzac and Zola, will be criticized. The aim is that the theses of this trend which saw the relationship between literature and reality as a subject-object relationship will be proved unsound by showing that this relationship is actually a dialogic relationship.   Great attempt abla. I give you 90. The blue fonted part is really difficult to translate. You made some mistakes there. .   Edited (12/9/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: A little bit of Turkey in the U.S.

2577.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Dec 2012 Sun 01:02 pm   Quoting trip Do you still not see the pictures, ikicihan? I can see them on the thread. They are pictures that I took, so they do not have a url. They are not on another web site. They are just jpgs of mine. ... Maybe this will not work after all. ... Sorry.   If they don´t have an url we can´t see them. You can upload them to flickr site and this way you can share them with us.  http://www.flickr.com/

Thread: Turkish Poetry needing translation

2578.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Dec 2012 Sun 06:28 am   Quoting deli      my try at one:   Great try. I have a question. Why did you translate "en güzel günler" as "most beautiful of days" En güzel günler(most beautiful days) and günlerin en güzeli(most beautiful of days) are different.

Thread: A Challange

2579.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Dec 2012 Sun 05:48 am   This is the first paragraph of my homework about the relation between literature and reality. I challenge you to translate it to Turkish. I will give each translation a score.   Edebiyat ile hakikat ilişkisi tartışmalı bir konudur. Bu konuyu irdeleyen birçok edebiyat kuramı vardır. Bu kuramlar birbirlerinden oldukça farklı tezler öne sürer. Bunun sebeplerinden biri ise edebiyatın ve hakikatın ne olduğu üzerinde kesin bir uzlaşmaya varılamamış olmasıdır. Bu kavramların farklı dönemlerde farklı ideolojilerce içi doldurulmaya çalışılmıştır. Bu kavramların değişmez ve tarih-üstü diyebileceğimiz bir özleri yoktur. Her tarihsel dönemde geçerli olabilecek edebiyat ya da hakikat şudur diyebileceğimiz bir tanıma ulaşabilmiş değiliz. Bu inceleme de edebiyat ile hakikat ilişkisi bağlamında tezler öne sürmüş olan ve yansıtmacılık kuramı üzerinde temellenip 19. yüzyılın ikinci yarısında Fransa’da ortaya çıkan, temsilciliğini Stendhal, Balzac, Zola gibi yazarların yaptığı gerçekçilik akımının savunduğu tezler eleştirilecektir. Edebiyat ve hakikat arasındaki ilişkiyi bir özne-nesne ilişkisi olarak gören bu akımın tezleri, bu ilişkinin diyalojik bir ilişki olduğu gösterilerek çürütülmeye çalışılacaktır.   Edited (12/9/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Things you hate (or don´t like) about Türks/Türkia

2580.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Dec 2012 Sun 05:31 am   Quoting si++ Be sincere and speak up.   Myself

Thread: recommended trusted dorms

2581.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Dec 2012 Sat 06:58 pm   Quoting ms.yousra lutfen bana yardim edin    (you plural) ms.yousra and basima liked this message

Thread: Would be great if it´s translated

2582.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Dec 2012 Sat 06:54 pm   Quoting Abla   Quote:     5-songuroğlu, İbrahim´in narasıyla düşüncelerinden sıyrıldı. 6-vaziyet parlak değildi.yirmi kişi ile kılıç tokuşturmak ölümü peşin kabullenmekten farksızdı. 7-işin bu yanını fazla umursamıyordu. Ölümle burun buruna yaşamaktan olacak, o duyguyu iyide iyiye benimsemişti. 8-Ama görevini yapmayacak, daha önceki elçilerin başına gelenleri öğrenemeyecekt.     Sunguroglu brought himself out of his thoughts when he heard Ibrahim’s shouting. The situation was not excellent. Clinking the sword with twenty people didn’t much differ from asking for your death. He wasn’t too concerned about this side of the job. Because of living always very close to death  -  he had thoroughly adapted that feeling. But he wasn´t going to be able to do his duty and acquaint ed himself to what had happened to earlier messengers.   (Lack of context really bothers me. I feel like some sentences are ambiguous but natives will solve them by their instinct I guess.)

Thread: Would be great if it´s translated

2583.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Dec 2012 Sat 06:47 pm   Quoting Abla 1-Sunguroğlu kara düşünce ortasında vuruşuyordu. 2-Durup dururken üzerlerine çullanmalarını iki türlü izah ediyordu. 3-Ya gerçekten casus sanmışlardı veya beylerinden aldıkları emri yerine getirmek istemişlerdi. 4-İhtimal, Yalova beyi diğer bütün elçileri bu yoldan yok ediyordu   My Try, don´t trust it but wait for corrections:   Sunguroglu was fighting in dark thoughts. He explained their unexpected swooping onto them in two ways. They had either really imagined them to be spies or wanted to carry out the order their beys had given to them. There was a possibility that the bey of Yalova was liquidating all other messengers this way.

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

2584.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Dec 2012 Sat 06:00 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb 1.After you do that,what are you going to do?   Bunu yaptıktan sonra,ne yapacaksın? 2.When he came,I was trying to do something bad.   O geldiğinde,kötü birşey yapmaya çalışıyordum. 3.Then,he heard his mother´s voice.    O zaman,onun annesinin sesini duydu. 4.If you look at a map of the world,you´ll see oceans and continets.    Dünya haritasına bakarsan,okyanuslar ve kıtalar göreceksin. 5.The person who did that cleaned the gun.   Bunu yapan kişi tabancayı temizledi. 6.Since his mother will die,he has to go home.   Onun annesi öleceğine göre,onun eve gitmesi lazım. 7.Sooner or later,the oil will start to run out,and we won´t have cheap oils any more.   Önce ya da sonra (er geç,petrol bitmeye baslayacak,ya ve bizim artık ucuz petrolumuz yok olmayacak. 8.I said that was terrible and that I would help her.   Bu korkunç dedim ve ona yardım edeceğimi söyledim. 9.If you were in a car and you saw thunder,what you going to do?   Arabadaysan ve şimşek görürsen,ne yaparsın?     Much better. Well done.   Edited (12/8/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/8/2012) by gokuyum nemanjasrb liked this message

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2585.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Dec 2012 Fri 10:57 pm   Quoting admin He doesn´t say that he doesn´t care about you, what he says is basically that he actually loes you but the relationship is going nowhere, you are far from each other and he is tired of this separation. You can interpret this in different ways and I think it is not me who should do the interpretation Always the same things. We haven´t gone one step further.   Edited (12/7/2012) by gokuyum Henry liked this message

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2586.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Dec 2012 Fri 10:48 pm Admin, what happened to your enthusiasm? Why don´t you translate texts anymore? Edited (12/7/2012) by gokuyum

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2587.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Dec 2012 Fri 10:32 pm Your translation sucks my friend. 7 years later I have decided to help you. I hope you are still alive and well   Beni benden alırsan seni sana bırakmam   If you take me from myself, I will not leave you to you Yanı başımda bile olsan bir adım bile atmam   Even if you were near me, I wouldn´t take a step Kalbimi kıymetimi sana olan sevgimi   My heart, my value, my love for you Bilmedin bileceğin yok   You haven´t known (them), it seems you won´t Yalancı dostlarından elalemin lafından    From the words of strangers and from your liar friends Geçmedin geçeceğin yok   You have never backed down, it seems you won´t Bu gönül az mı kahrını çekti   Did this heart suffer only a little? Bensiz aşkın neye yarar ki   Without me, what is the use of your love? Kaç kere kırdın, yerlere attın   Many times you broke (my heart), you threw it away Yaralı kalbim affeder mi?   Will my wounded heart forgive you? Sevgilim canım dedikçe   As much as I have said "my dear" Kendini gizler oldun  You have hided yourself peşinden sürüklendim ben  I trailed you çok mu değerli oldum  Did this make me valuable? Bir aşk var birde aşık  There is a love and a lover iç içe karma karışık  One inside the other, complicated seninle hiç ilgisi yok  It is not about you   Yalancı dostlarından elalemin lafından   From the words of strangers and from your liar friends Geçmedin geçeceğin yok  You have never backed down, it seems you won´t Bu gönül az mı kahrını çekti  Did this heart suffer only a little? Bensiz aşkın neye yarar ki  Without me, what is the use of your love? Kaç kere kırdın, yerlere attın  Many times you broke (my heart), you threw it away Yaralı kalbim affeder mi?  Will my wounded heart forgive you?   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSSBY4WsZp4   Edited (12/7/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/7/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/7/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Turkish to English

2588.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Dec 2012 Fri 09:34 pm Turkish grammar is so vast and there are so many suffixes. And they don´t always function same in different sentences. If I was a Turkish learner, I would give up easily and would run 1000 km away from Turkish. You are my heroes Edited (12/7/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Turkish to English

2589.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Dec 2012 Fri 09:16 pm   Quoting Henry   The cık/çik form of suffix is used after nouns to form a sense of smallness, affection, sarcasm or contempt according to one of my textbooks. kitap .... kitapçık (little book) ada ..... adacık (little island) Ali .......Alicik (little Ali, good old Ali) you will also see this form as a term of endearment amongst good friends, most often used by women, Henryciğim = my dear Henry becomes Henrycim as colloquial speech the final k may drop from some nouns minik (tiny) ....minicik (very tiny) ufak (little) ..... ufacık (tiny) köpek (dog) ...... köpeçik (cute little puppy) so I guess ailecek means my dear little family but the use of the ´e´ worries me, and one dictionary also gives the meaning of ailecek as ´with the whole family´ so maybe this is different.      Henry here -cak/cek is a derivational affix which makes new nouns from nouns and it makes them function like an adverb in a sentence. If you ask the verb "how", you will get the answer "with the family" Edited (12/7/2012) by gokuyum

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2590.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Dec 2012 Fri 08:49 pm Orientalism never dies. You think everybody is unhappy in Islamic countries but they are happy in western countries. This is a big generalisation. And it is wrong.

Thread: T->E one sentence please

2591.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Dec 2012 Thu 04:52 pm   Quoting MarioninTurkey      very poetic, abla!   Abla´s English rocks like her Turkish

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2592.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Dec 2012 Thu 04:38 pm   Quoting AlphaF     A comma missing somewhere?      Where?

Thread: translate it please :)

2593.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Dec 2012 Thu 04:36 pm   Quoting rezapad     Bu in wich language?   It is in Samoan language. Edited (12/6/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Turkish --> English please it´s very importan to me and there is another part

2594.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Dec 2012 Thu 04:34 pm   Quoting MarioninTurkey Hiç aceleleri yoktu,. Aceleleri olsa öyle yavaş yavaş sürmez; şaha kaldırıp, rüzgar olup eserlerdi. They had no hurry. If they had a hurry they wouldn´t have ridden this slow.     A couple of comments on the English. I agree gök´s correction. the turkish is "hiç aceleleri yoktu" not "hiç acele yoktu" so we have to relate the hurry to them. But in English we would normally say "they were not in any hurry" or "there were not in a rush". Also, I could be picky and say it should be "slowly" as it is an adverb describing how they ride not an adjective, but that would be being fussy and I am not trying to correct gök, just giving a few hints to help him with English in return for his fantastic help for others in Turkish. Thank you Marion. We are all in a circle of correcting each other

Thread: tr to en - Gözlerin Doğuyor Gecelerime

2595.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Dec 2012 Thu 04:32 pm   Quoting MarioninTurkey geçilmez gurbetin sokaklarından gurbet is a hard concept to translate as we don´t quite have the same concept in English.   Gurbet is a foreign land, but it carries with it heavy longings for your homeland.   Maybe "the land of exile" conjures up the same idea in English. Any thoughts from native English speakers?   , Edited (12/6/2012) by gokuyum

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2596.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Dec 2012 Thu 11:46 am   Quoting AlphaF     Who is crying? The child, or those who left him on the street?   Of course the child.

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2597.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Dec 2012 Thu 02:26 am   Quoting Abla The child was left crying in the street.   Çocuk sokağa ağlar halde bırakıldı/bırakılmıştı.   or   Çocuk sokakta ağlar halde bırakıldı/bırakılmıştı.   I think sentence means the first translation. But I am not sure. Edited (12/6/2012) by gokuyum

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2598.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Dec 2012 Thu 02:24 am   Quoting deli      someone has hacked? added my email, they are sending stupid mails to my friends ,please dont pay any attention, my new email.....   my try

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2599.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Dec 2012 Thu 02:18 am   Quoting ikicihan   çileli doğmuşum zaten ezelden hasrete alıştım ne gelir elden yaşlı gözlerime baktığın yerden gözlerin doğuyor gecelerime   I was born with troubles at the very beginning I got used to longing, what would I do? From the place you look at my teary eyes Your eyes rises in my nights. geçilmez gurbetin sokaklarından içilmez suları pınarlarından öptüğüm o ıslak dudaklarından sözlerin doğuyor gecelerime   Foreign land´s streets can´t be crossed Its waters can´t be drunk from its fountains From your wet lips which I kissed Your words rise in my nights.     Edited (12/6/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Turkish --> English please it´s very importan to me and there is another part

2600.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Dec 2012 Thu 02:02 am , Edited (12/6/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/6/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Turkish --> English please it´s very importan to me and there is another part

2601.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Dec 2012 Thu 01:58 am   Quoting Abla It is not the first time I stay awake at night doing someone else´s homework.   I am just bored, I did it for sport

Thread: Turkish --> English please it´s very importan to me and there is another part

2602.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Dec 2012 Thu 01:57 am I preferred to use "going to" but maybe your "would" is better. Edited (12/6/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Turkish --> English please it´s very importan to me and there is another part

2603.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Dec 2012 Thu 01:56 am Now she has two different translations. There is a saying in Turkish "A blind man wanted one eye, God gave him two eyes"

Thread: Turkish --> English please it´s very importan to me and there is another part

2604.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Dec 2012 Thu 01:50 am   Quoting Abla   Kaybolan elçiler ÜÇ altı ağır ağır Yalova´ya yaklaşırken, ikindi güneşi ağaçların arasında boylu boyunca uzuyordu. While three horsemen were slowly approaching Yalova the sun of the mid-afternoon streched to its full length between the trees. Hiç aceleleri yoktu,. Aceleleri olsa öyle yavaş yavaş sürmez; şaha kaldırıp, rüzgar olup eserlerdi. They had no hurry. If they had a hurry they wouldn´t have ridden this slow. They would have let the horses rise on their rear legs and blown like the wind. Üçünün de cabları sıkkındı. Ne zamandır tek kelime konuşmamışlardı. Gören, cenaze evine gittiklerini sanırdı. Öylesine durgun, bezgin, tedirgindiler. The three of them were troubled also. For a long time they hadn´t uttered a word. If someone had seen them he would have believed they were on their way to a funeral house. So stagnant, so weary, so uneasy they were. Nihayet yalova gözüktü. Gözükmesiyle, atları durdurdular. Finally Yalova could be seen. At the moment when it appeared to sight they pulled up their horses. Geldik, dedi sunguroğlu iç çekişe benzer sesiyle, geldik ya, bu iş beni sarmıyor. Sunguroğlu said "We came" with a voice like a sigh. "We came but this job doesn´t please me" ´´Beni de böyle´´ diye atıldı İbrahim, "Orhan beyimiz iyidir hoştur, amma akıncılara elçilik vazifesi verilmeyeceğini bilmez" "Me too" said İbrahim "Our Orhan Bey is a good and nice man but he doesn´t know that an embasy job can´t be given to raiders. "kessene lafi" diye çıkıştı köse, "Orhan beyimizi ileri geri laflarla tenkit etmek, sana bana yaraşmaz". Saying "Shut up" Köse scolded them. "To criticise our Orhan Bey with these improper words doesn´t suit us." Sunguroğlu ve arkadaşları en atak hamlelerini en arkaya saklıyordu. Düşmanlarını önce yoracaklar, iyice bunalttıktan sonra bütün güçleriyle yükleneceklerdi. tabii o zamana kadar kılıç sallayacak güçleri kalırsa... Sunguroğlu and his friends were holding their fastests attacts back for the end. First they were going to tire their enemies and after they made them distressed, they were going to attack them with their all power. Of course if they would have enough power to wield a sword untill that time.                   First I had corrected abla´s mistakes, rearranged the text and went on where she had left.    Edited (12/6/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/6/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/6/2012) by gokuyum pody liked this message

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2605.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Dec 2012 Wed 02:49 am Canım Kardeşim (1973) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bcJi5QlJ-o   Great soundtrack of the movie> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJU0VG6S_zM Edited (12/5/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/5/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: translate it please :)

2606.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Dec 2012 Tue 09:31 pm   Quoting pody tay yetişirse at dinlenir oğul erleşirse baba dinlenir   If young horse grows, horse will rest; if son grows, father will rest. Edited (12/4/2012) by gokuyum

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2607.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Dec 2012 Tue 09:30 pm yetişmek has a "to grow" meaning other than "to catch up" For example in Turkish yetişkin means grown, adult.

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2608.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Dec 2012 Tue 09:19 pm   Quoting Henry   Thanks Gokuyum. I couldn´t find this verb in any of my dictionaries, or this site´s dictionary, or the usually reliable tureng.com website. Is this an old word that is no longer in use?     This is a local verb. er-leş-mek er (noun) means man, soldier leş is a reciprocal verb suffix but here it expresses a transformation. Edited (12/4/2012) by gokuyum

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2609.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Dec 2012 Tue 08:59 pm   Quoting Henry     I assume you left an important letter from your quote. I guess this may also be a proverb saying - If a young horse (colt/filly) is fast enough to catch up, the (older) horse will relax, if a son settles down, the father will relax.   Actually henry there is no mistake. "erleşmek" is a verb and it means "to be a man"

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2610.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Dec 2012 Tue 06:36 pm   Quoting AlphaF     Perhaps, you have to be a good planner yourself too. Must know what others may be planning first....   I am not good at conspiring. And I trust in Allah. That is enough for me. Edited (12/4/2012) by gokuyum

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2611.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Dec 2012 Tue 06:28 pm   Quoting AlphaF http://www.podivejse.eu/zhlednout/zobrazitvideo/3987/dokumenty/illuminati Holy Quran, 8/ Enfal, 30:   Remember how the Unbelievers plotted against thee, to keep thee in bonds, or slay thee, or get thee out (of thy home). They plot and plan, and Allah too plans; but the best of planners is Allah.   I love this verse so much. Abla liked this message

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2612.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Dec 2012 Tue 06:17 pm   Quoting AlphaF     Her nickname is like an impressive resume, is it not? What other contributions you have in mind?        Maybe I am too optimist

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2613.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Dec 2012 Tue 05:58 pm It is 702000 and never trust google translate. Turkish2412 liked this message

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2614.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Dec 2012 Tue 05:55 pm   Quoting DisiBayanAsk     Hehe I play the game messy, who taught you English hehe  It´s good English,... too good.....     Can I ask you what is your contribution to this site other than laughing? I make mistakes but at least I try to help people. What is your purpose?

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2615.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Dec 2012 Tue 12:05 am I write with 3.28 edit rate. I play the game messy. No need to show it everyone insallah liked this message

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2616.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Dec 2012 Mon 11:37 pm   Quoting tomac Hm, what about leaving something like this (always only one line)??   Edited 14 times, last time at 9:12pm   Oh, it would be better than now. But to remove it is best. Why would someone want to know that how many Itimes I edited my post? Edited (12/3/2012) by gokuyum

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2617.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Dec 2012 Mon 09:59 pm I don´t want it to be seen why and when I edited my posts. I am a perfectionist and I edit my posts many times. That is the only reason why I edit them. These edit informations cover unnecessary space in my posts. Now after you learnt  the reason, can you disable it for me? Edited (12/3/2012) by gokuyum DisiBayanAsk and Henry liked this message

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2618.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Dec 2012 Mon 09:48 pm So what? Oh sorry, I guess this is not the right expression

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2619.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Dec 2012 Mon 09:34 pm   Quoting trip   If I have offended, I am sorry, Gokuyum. Maybe the nuance in the words is not all that I am missing here.     You misunderstood me. I didn´t ask that question with anger or being offended.

Thread: turkish english translation please very important

2620.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Dec 2012 Mon 09:26 pm   Quoting keçi Arkadas ve dostlarima!Bazen insanin hayatinda surecler vardir ve oyle bir surecki her sey ters doner ustune ustune gelir hèle o surecte dogru yerde ve dogru insanlarda yoksa yaninda ve etrafinda artik sana ve senin karakter ahlak kisilik ve hayata bakisina kalmis nerede bulacaksin kendini.Evet Ben oyle bir surec yasadim ve bunca yillik yasantimda yasayamdigim ve tanimadigim bu kadar rezil bu kadar sahte ve bu kadar cakal bu kadar seviyesiz ve omurgasiz insanlar iliskiler yalanlar sahtekarliklari 2 senede yasadim.ve artik son diyorum.Butun dostlar ve arkadaslarimdan bu 2 senelik  zamandan dolayi af diliyorum ama biliyorumki béni taniyan zaten tanimistir ama ben yinede size sevgi ile askile  dostca merhaba diyorum  Simple translation: To my friends. There are some periods in our life. In those periods everything turns upside down. If you are not in the right place and if you don´t have your friends near you,  it is up to you and it is up to your character, and perspective of life where you will find yourself  . I lived such a period. I had many dishonest friends, I listened to many lies, I lived fake relationships. And now I say it is enough. I want my all friends to forgive me because of this period and I say you hi friendly and with love.   Note: I translated the text. Do you understand anything? If you do please tell us.   Edited (12/3/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/3/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/3/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/3/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Such Beautiful Lyrics in Ahmet Kaya Song

2621.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Dec 2012 Sun 11:19 pm   Quoting ikicihan   It is not an ahmet kaya song, ahmet kaya performed it very good like many other singers.     This song was written by Yusuf Hayaloğlu. He was a great poet. And Ahmet Kaya sang his many songs. His sister was married with Ahmet Kaya. And they were close friends. I think he is one of the biggest actors behind the Ahmet Kaya legend.   Note: I think Muslim Baba sings this song great too. Edited (12/2/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/2/2012) by gokuyum

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2622.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Dec 2012 Sun 11:03 pm Yes I agree. Those lines made me think so. By the way objects don´t have genders in Turkish. If you want you can think them as a female or male. Even "Türkiye" is a female name, most of the people would call her "he" instead of "she". Interesting. Edited (12/2/2012) by gokuyum

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2623.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Dec 2012 Sun 08:33 pm   Quoting admin   PS. Gokuyum´s problem is still unresolved   Lol.

Thread: Such Beautiful Lyrics in Ahmet Kaya Song

2624.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Dec 2012 Sun 07:04 pm   Quoting ikicihan     the poet does not actually want to be a grave with no owner etc. the poet is saying all the extreme conditions and ask to her loved one, if i was in such and such condition, would you still love me. i am %99 sure it is "if". Yes meaning is certain there and abla translated that part with if. But it is not certain for other lines because they don´t have a direct connection with the last two lines.

Thread: Such Beautiful Lyrics in Ahmet Kaya Song

2625.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Dec 2012 Sun 06:52 pm   Quoting ikicihan I wish I was snow on top of those mountains, If   It is possible but the meaning is not certain.

Thread: Such Beautiful Lyrics in Ahmet Kaya Song

2626.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Dec 2012 Sun 06:40 pm   Quoting Abla http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNPwLTlNx68   I hope you don´t mind me saying  -  it is just my opinion  -  but there is something typical to Turkish melancholy in the lyrics of this song: representing inanimate things as metaphors of a human being. I have heard it so many times, even in everyday conversations.   Needless to say it hits me like a tidal wave.   ------------------------   Şu dağlarda kar olsaydım olsaydım, bir asi rüzgâr olsaydım olsaydım, arar bulur muydun beni beni, sahipsiz mezar olsaydım olsaydım?   I wish I was snow on top of those mountains, I wish I was a stormy wind. Would you search for me and find me, if I was a grave with no owner?   ------------------------------ Şu yangında har olsaydım olsaydım, ağlayıp bizâr olsaydım olsaydım. Belki yaslanırdın bana bana, mahpusta duvar olsaydım olsaydım.   I wish I was the fury in that fire, I wish I became weary of crying. Maybe you would lean against me if I was a wall in the prison.   ------------------------------   Şu bozkırda han olsaydım olsaydım, Yıkık perişan olsaydım olsaydım. Yine sever miydin beni beni simsiyah duman olsaydım olsaydım?   I wish I was an inn on that steppe, I wish I was demolished and wretched. Would you love me again if I was smoke, black as soot?  ---------------------------------- Şu yarada kan olsaydım olsaydım, dökülüp ziyan olsaydım olsaydım. Bu dünyada yerim yokmuş yokmuş. Keşke bir yalan olsaydım olsaydım.   I wish I was blood in that wound, I wish I was poured out and went to waste. There is no place for me in this world. I wish I was a lie.   --------------------------   There are very interesting dilek-şart kipi structures also in these verses. I can try to explain them if another learner is interested.   Great translation.   Edited (12/2/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Such Beautiful Lyrics in Ahmet Kaya Song

2627.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Dec 2012 Sun 06:36 pm Do yoıu like the "Cinayet Saati" song of him? I like it very much.

Thread: Such Beautiful Lyrics in Ahmet Kaya Song

2628.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Dec 2012 Sun 06:34 pm   Quoting Abla http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNPwLTlNx68   I hope you don´t mind me saying  -  it is just my opinion  -  but there is something typical to Turkish melancholy in the lyrics of this song: representing inanimate things as metaphors of a human being. I have heard it so many times, even in everyday conversations.   You are right. It is typical.

Thread: Murder Hour - Atilla İlhan

2629.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Dec 2012 Sun 06:25 pm   Quoting Abla Am I the only one who doesn´t understand this? What does the steamship stand for?   My interpretion is like this. Steamship is steamship. Four people who stabbed it were sick of working in difficult conditions in it and they held the steamship responsible for this and they stabbed it. That is how I understand the poem. Edited (12/2/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/2/2012) by gokuyum nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: Barış Manço-Cem Karaca Duet

2630.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Dec 2012 Sun 04:06 am   Quoting alameda   I began to walk at the same time In a mansion with two doors   That is a great symbol of world. A mansion with two doors. One door is birth. When you are born, you enter the mansion(world). Second door is death. When you die you go out of this mansion. All you do is walking non-stop when you enter this mansion to reach the second door. Why? Because we don´t belong to this mansion. This is not our home. Our soul wants to leave this mansion as soon as possible and to go to his home.   Edited (12/2/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/2/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/2/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/2/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Please, help!?

2631.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Dec 2012 Sun 02:26 am   Quoting roxanatv Can someone please help me translate this to Turkish ? I´d really appreciate it !   *You make me smile for no reason whatsoever, You make me laugh at the unfunniest things, But most of all, you make me love you... When I shouldn´t be loving you* Herhangi bir sebep olmadan beni gülümsetiyorsun. En komik olmayan şeylere bile beni güldürüyorsun. Ama hepsinden çok bana kendini sevdiriyorsun... Seni sevmemem gerekirken.

Thread: Murder Hour - Atilla İlhan

2632.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Dec 2012 Sun 02:01 am I translated this very famous poem of Atilla İlhan. It is a really touching poem. And I gave the link of Ahmet Kaya´s great song of this poem. I hope you like it. CİNAYET SAATİ MURDER HOUR  haliç´te bir vapuru vurdular dört kişi demirlemişti eli kolu bağlıydı ağlıyordu dört bıçak çekip vurdular dört kişi yemyeşil bir ay gökte dağılıyordu four people stabbed a steamship in haliç he was anchored, his arms were tied, he was crying drawing four knives, four people stabbed him a green moon was dispersing in the sky  deli cafer ismail tayfur ve şaşı maktulün onbeş yıllık arkadaşı üçü kamarot öteki aşçıbaşı dört bıçak çekip vurdular dört kişi crazy cafer, ismail, tayfur and cross-eyed victim´s friends of 15 years three of them are stewards, other is head cook drawing four knives, four people stabbed him  cinayeti kör bir kayıkçı gördü ben gördüm kulaklarım gördü vapur kudurdu kuduz gibi böğürdü hiç biriniz orada yoktunuz a blind boatman saw the murder i saw, my ears saw steamship got mad, he screamed like a mad man none of you were there. demirlemişti eli kolu bağlıydı ağlıyordu on üç damla gözyaşını saydım allahına kitabına sövüp saydım şafak nabız gibi atıyordu sarhoştum kasımpaşa´daydım hiç biriniz orada yoktunuz he was anchored, his arms were tied, he was crying i counted his 13 teardrops i cursed god and holy book dawn was beating like heart i was drunk, i was in kasımpaşa none of you were there. haliç´te bir vapuru vurdular dört kişi polis kaatilleri arıyordu deli cafer ismail tayfur ve şaşı üzerime yüklediler bu işi sarhoştum kasımpaşa´daydım vapuru onlar vurdu ben vurmadım cinayeti kör bir kayıkçı gördü ben vursam kendimi vuracaktım four people stabbed a steamship in haliç police was looking for murderers crazy cafer, ismail, tayfur and cross-eyed they imputed this misdeed to me i was drunk, i was in kasımpaşa they stabbed the steamship, i didn´t a blind boatman saw the murder if I stabbed, i would stab myself Attila İLHAN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzFiignZBG4   Edited (12/2/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/2/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/2/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/2/2012) by gokuyum nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: Immortal Love :)

2633.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Dec 2012 Sun 01:13 am stumpy liked this message

Thread: GAZZA

2634.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Dec 2012 Sun 01:06 am   Quoting stumpy How dare you boycott the French baguette and croissant!  Shame on you There are two French products in this world which nobody can make me boycott them. French kiss and French fries   Edited (12/2/2012) by gokuyum haniagree and stumpy liked this message

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

2635.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Dec 2012 Sun 12:49 am   Quoting nemanjasrb     Teşekkürler. Çok daha praktik yapmam lazım.    Keep studying. If learning it was easy, it would be worthless.

Thread: Justice for Erkan

2636.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Dec 2012 Sun 12:44 am Oh I remebered him. He was a racist and he was insulting people. Sorry but he deserved it. I signed your petition without remebering him but now I withdraw my sign sembolicaly because there is no button for it on the site Edited (12/2/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/2/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/2/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

2637.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Dec 2012 Sun 12:32 am   Quoting nemanjasrb Second try. I hope this will be better. 1.Most people like quiet life.    Çoğu insan sessiz hayatı seviyor. 2.They enjoy hobbies and sports that are interesting but safe.    Onlar enteresan hobilerde ve sporlarda ama güvenli hoşlanıyorlar. Onlar enteresan ama güvenli hobiler ve sporlardan hoşlanıyorlar. 3.He had a lot of problems with bad weather.    Onun kötü hava ile çok sorunları vardı. 4.He plans to go all round the world next time.    O bütün dünya turu gitmek planlıyor bir dahaki sefer. O bir dahaki sefer tüm dünyayı turlamayı planlıyor 5.I enjoy working in cafe.    Kafede çalışmaktan hoşlanıyorum. 6.The only real problem is that I can´t play football for the school team,because have their matches on Saturday mornings.    Tek sorun futbolu oynamadığımı okul takımı için,çünkü onların maçları Cumartesi sabahı var. Tek gerçek sorun okul takımı için futbol oynayamamam çünkü onların maçları cumartesi sabahı oluyor. 7.We all know that diamonds are very beautiful and very expensive.   Hepimiz biliyor elmasların güzel ve pahalı olduğunu biliyoruz. 8.If you go walking in the mountains this winter,you will need to be well prepared.   Bu kış dağlarda yürüyüşe gideresen,iyi hazırlanman olman lazım.   Good attempt.   Edited (12/2/2012) by gokuyum nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: Justice for Erkan

2638.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Dec 2012 Sun 12:04 am , Edited (12/2/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/2/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/2/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/2/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/2/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/2/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Tr to En :)

2639.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Dec 2012 Sat 11:55 pm   Quoting tunci   May be the weirdest ones are  indonesian dogs cos they bark as "guk guk ! Unless they are being fed by mezes and raki to sound like that !!        Lol. Don´t owls sing like that in Turkish? Maybe those dogs think they are owls when they are drunk

Thread: Tr to En :)

2640.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Dec 2012 Sat 10:42 pm   Quoting ikicihan We missed something I dont know how to translate dog language, even if they speak universallly   La hoşt! Harf, hırrff, harf   They don´t bark universally. An english dog and a Turkish dog can´t communicate without a translator dog that knows both barking languages. jolanaze, milva and Henry liked this message

Thread: Need some easy reading

2641.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Dec 2012 Sat 10:37 pm   Quoting trip My first, and pretty much only, language is English. I have studied some French and some Spanish. And now Turkish. Why do you ask? ... I feel I may be afraid to hear your answer.     I asked because you translated the text too literally. Do you understand what I mean? nifrtity liked this message

Thread: Need some easy reading

2642.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Dec 2012 Sat 10:08 pm   Quoting gokuyum Come no matter who you are, come. Come but come with short texts. (A Turkish Dervish)   I think I invented a new style after facebook aphorisms. Turkish class aphorisms. Do you have this kind of aphorisms? Please share

Thread: T to E

2643.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Dec 2012 Sat 10:04 pm   Quoting Abla Are we supposed to boycott them?   Besides it sounded like dervish stuff to me...   Nope it is too cheap to be a dervish stuff.

Thread: i need your help please

2644.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Dec 2012 Sat 10:03 pm   Quoting tunci     İmdi yürek yırtılır    Haydi lililililili yar haydi lililililili yar. Haydi potpori yapalım

Thread: i need your help please

2645.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Dec 2012 Sat 09:56 pm   Quoting tunci     Issız acun kaldı mı ?    Ödlek öcin aldı mı?

Thread: T to E

2646.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Dec 2012 Sat 09:56 pm   Quoting Abla       Real love is the Creator, the rest of it is likely to wound you.   Abla how did you do this to me? You translated a facebook text. I condemn you.

Thread: i need your help please

2647.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Dec 2012 Sat 09:52 pm   Quoting tunci   In old Turkish ; Ot  tese ağız köymez.     Alper Tunga öldi mi? tunci liked this message

Thread: turkish english translation please very important

2648.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Dec 2012 Sat 09:48 pm   Quoting Abla Missing Turkish letters make me furious these days.   Grammar mistakes make me sick especially when someone tries to write like an author. Edited (12/1/2012) by gokuyum nifrtity and harp00n liked this message

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2649.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Dec 2012 Sat 09:46 pm I am a poet Henry liked this message

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2650.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Dec 2012 Sat 09:45 pm   Quoting keçi Arkadas ve dostlarima!Bazen insanin hayatinda surecler vardir ve oyle bir surecki her sey ters doner ustune ustune gelir hèle o surecte dogru yerde ve dogru insanlarda yoksa yaninda ve etrafinda artik sana ve senin karakter ahlak kisilik ve hayata bakisina kalmis nerede bulacaksin kendini.Evet Ben oyle bir surec yasadim ve bunca yillik yasantimda yasayamdigim ve tanimadigim bu kadar rezil bu kadar sahte ve bu kadar cakal bu kadar seviyesiz ve omurgasiz insanlar iliskiler yalanlar sahtekarliklari 2 senede yasadim.ve artik son diyorum.Butun dostlar ve arkadaslarimdan bu 2 senelik  zamandan dolayi af diliyorum ama biliyorumki béni taniyan zaten tanimistir ama ben yinede size sevgi ile askile  dostca merhaba diyorum    I guess everybody thinks that he is an author in Turkey except me. HaNNo liked this message

Thread: Need some easy reading

2651.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Dec 2012 Sat 09:41 pm   Quoting trip   BİR KAYIKTA DÖRT KİŞİ (FOUR PEOPLE IN A SKIFF) Kayıkta dört kişiydiler. Sarı saçlı bir kadın, bir kasap, kel bir profesör, ve bir de pipolu genç. Four people were in a skiff. A woman with blond hair, a butcher, a bald professor and also a young man with a pipe.    Hepsi de son vapura geç kaldılar. Bunu için kaptana 50 milyon lira verip bir kayığa bindiler. All of them also at the end were late to the last steamship. Giving a captain 50 million lira for this, they took got on a skiff.   Şimdi kayık karanlık sularda yavaş yavaş gidiyor du. Sarı saçlı kadın sigara içiyor ve dumanını seyrediyor du. Now the skiff was going slowly in the dark waters. The blond woman was smoking a cigarette and watching its smoke.    Genç adam hem sarı saçlı kadının bacaklarına bakıyor hem de sevgilisini düşünüyor du. The young man was both looking at the blond woman´s legs and also thinking of his girlfriend.   Profesör de aids hakkında düşünüyor, bu hastalık için bir ilaç bulmak istiyor du. The professor also was thinking about AIDS and was wanting to find a drug for this disease.   Kasap hem fıstık yiyor hem de dükkanındaki koyunları ve inekleri düşünüyor du. The butcher was both eating pistachios and thinking about the cows and sheep in his shop.   Gece yıldızsızdı ve deniz biraz dalgalıydı. Sular bazen kayığın içine sıçrıyor du/geliyor du. Kayık artık Üsküdar’ı ve Kadıköy’ü geçip adalara doğru gidiyordu. The night was starless and the sea was a little rough. Sometimes the waters were coming inside the skiff. Now passing Üsküdar and Kadıköy, the skiff was going straight to the Princes´ Islands.   Biraz sonra sarı saçlı güzel kadın rüzgardan üşüdü ve eteklerini tutarak kamaraya doğru yürüdü. Kamaraya girdi. Kamara çok kötü kokuyor du. A little later the pretty blond woman felt cold from the wind and, holding her skirts, moved straight to the skiff´s cabin. The cabin smelled very bad.   Kadın hemen bir pencere açıp önüne oturdu. Çamlıca’ya ve Üsküdar’a bakıyor du. Her şey çok güzeldi. Dalgaların sesi bir melodi gibiydi. The woman immediately sat down before an open window opening it. She was looking at Çamlıca and Üsküdar. Everything was very beautiful. The sound of the waves was like a melody.   Kadın birden kalktı; şimdi koku daha çoktu ve aşağıdan duman geliyor du. Kapıyı açtı; içeride çok duman vardı; yüzüne bir sıcaklık geldi:  The woman stood suddenly. Now the smell was worse and smoke was coming from below. She opened the door. There was lots of smoke within. She came face to face with heat. (a heat came to her face)   Aşağıda kaptan ve yardımcısı motoru tamir etmek için çalışıyorlar dı. İkisi de çok pisti ve terliydi. Kadın çok şaşırdı; sonra “Yanıyoruz imdat imdat yanıyoruz” diye bağırmaya başladı ve dışarıya koştu. Below the captain and his assistant were trying to repair the motor. The two also were very dirty and sweaty. The woman was very bewildered. Then she started by shouting "We are burning, help, help, we are burning!" and ran outside.   Kayıktaki herkes çok korktu. Kapı açık kaldı: Onun için şimdi her yer dumandı. Kasap hemen sandalyesini tuttu. Profesör de kayıktaki tek can simitini aldı. Everyone in the boat was very afraid. The door remained open: Because of it, now smoke was everywhere. The butcher immediately gripped his seat. Also, the professor took the skiff´s only life preserver.    Sarışın kadın genç adamın yanına gitti: “Kurtarın beni, lütfen kurtarın, yardım edin....... yüzme (swimming) de bilmem ben” dedi. Delikanlı korkarak “ben de bilmem” dedi. Ama biraz yüzme bilirdi.  The blond woman went to the side of the young man: "Save me, please save, help ... I also do not know swimming," she said. Being afraid, the young man said, "I also do not know." But he knew swimming a little.    Sarışın kadın bu sefer de kasaptan yardım istedi, ama O Allah’a dua ediyor du. Profesör hepsinden daha kötü bir durumdaydı; çok korkuyor du. The blonde woman this time wanted help from the butcher, but he was praying to Allah. The professor was worse than all in this situation; he was very afraid.   Profesörün öğrencileri O’nu her zaman bir kahraman gibi düşünür dü, profesör her şeyi bilir ve çok güzel konuşur du, ama şimdi ağlıyor du. The professor´s students always thought of him as a hero, the professor knew everything and talked very well, but now he cried.   Sarışın kadın bu defa kaptanın yardımcısından yardım istedi. Ona sarılarak “Lütfen beni kurtar” dedi. The blond woman this time wanted help from the captain´s assistant. Hugging him, she said, "Please save me."   O zaman kaptanın sesi geldi; “Susun!, bağırmayın! Niçin korkuyorsunuz? Şimdi motoru tamir edeceğim. Lütfen panik yapmayın.”. kaptanın sesi çok etkiliydi; herkes oturdu.  Then came the sound of the captain: "Be quiet! Don´t shout! Why are you afraid? Now I will repair the motor. Please do not panic." The sound of the captain was very effective; everyone sat down.   On dakika sonra her şey normale döndü. Kaptan ve yardımcısı aşağıdan yukarıya çıktılar; ikisi de çok yorgundu. Ten minutes later everything returned to normal. The captain and his assistant came up from below; the two also were very tired.   Şimdi yine kayıkta dört kişiydiler. Yine düşünüyorlardı. Sarı saçlı kadın artık korkmuyordu; çok rahattı; sigara içmek istedi, ama elleri titriyor du. Now again the four people were in the skiff. Again they were thinking. The woman with blond hair was not afraid anymore; she was very untroubled; she wanted to smoke a cigarette, but her hands were shaking.   Delikanlı yine piposunu içiyor, fakat sarı saçlı kadının bacaklarına bakmıyor du. The young man again was smoking his pipe, but he was not looking at the legs of the blond woman.   Profesör karısını, çocuklarını ve öğrencilerini imdi daha çok seviyor du. The professor now loved his wife, children and students very much.   Kasap da artık hayvanları kesmek istemiyor du; mesleğini bırakıp başka bir iş yapmak istiyor du. Also, the butcher didn´t want to butcher animals anymore; he wanted to leave his profession and do a different job.   Adaya geldiler. They came to the island.   Kayıktan ilk önce profesör indi. Sonra şarkı söyleyerek delikanlı. Kasap kayıktan neşeyle indi ve bir çocuk gibi koşarak gitti. First of all, the professor got out of the boat. Then the young man singing a song. The butcher with joy got out of the boat and went running like a child.   Sarışın kadın için dalgalı denizde kayıktan inmek kolay değildi, zordu. For the blond woman, it wasn´t easy, it was difficult to get out of the boat in the rough sea.   Kaptanın yardımcısı yardım etmek için sarı saçlı kadına elini uzattı; ama kadın onun pis elini tutmadan kendi kendine kayıktan indi ve düştü; sonra kalkıp bir manken gibi yürüyerek gitti. The captain´s assistant extended his hand to the blond woman to help her, but the woman got out of the boat by herself without holding his dirty hand and fell; then getting up, she went walking like a mannequin.   Good attempt. By the way let me ask you, is your first language English?

Thread: Introduce myself.

2652.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Dec 2012 Sat 09:29 pm   Quoting tunci     u feeling ok , Gökuyum ?       Ben bende değilem. Bana sorman beni.

Thread: Need some easy reading

2653.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Dec 2012 Sat 02:56 am Come no matter who you are, come. Come but come with short texts. (A Turkish Dervish) nifrtity and tunci liked this message

Thread: Introduce myself.

2654.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Dec 2012 Sat 02:40 am Hi, I am a new member here. I want to learn Turkish. I really want but that is it. I tried to study it but it is really difficult. So I gave up. Now I just wait for a divine inspiration. I pray for it every day. I am sure one day God will answer my prayers. Meanwhile I want you to pray for me too. May God bless you. Edited (12/1/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/1/2012) by gokuyum MarioninTurkey liked this message

Thread: Depression Pub

2655.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Dec 2012 Sat 02:16 am   Quoting Abla Gosh you have short periods, gokuyum. Are you sure you have the right diagnose?   Don´t make a fool of yourself while manic. Short is better. It is boring to stay in a mood for a long time. When I am manic, I mock people on the forum. When I am depressive I translate melancholic songs or write a poem   Edited (12/1/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Most touching Turkish movies

2656.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Dec 2012 Sat 01:18 am   Quoting Abla     Mutual caring and friendship in the dark back streets.   Deniz Türkali as Melek couldn´t have been better. I watched it again. It was very touching. Especially the death of Melek. Did you watch it with subtitles or not Abla?

Thread: Most touching Turkish movies

2657.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Nov 2012 Fri 11:07 pm Here is a great soundtrack from the movie. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fajKFUyeIno   Gece üşür meleklerine seslenir Sarmaş dolaş arka sokak çocukları Bıçaklar çekilir yüreklerimiz hep tetikte Bu sokaklar korkulara dar. Şevhetle biz sığındık birbirimize Seviştik de öldük de öldürldük bile Kaybedecek hiçbir şeyimiz kalmadı Sanki bize bizden başka kim olur yar Gece melek ve bizim çocuklar Her uçurumdan sarktık Anasını sattık babasını ağlattık Düştük mü yoksa kalktık mı Karışık işler bunlar Gece melek ve bizim çocuklar   Back street children feel chilly at night And hugging eachother they call their angels Knifes are drawn, our hearts are always on the alert These streets are narrow for fears. We relied on each other with desire. We made love, we died, even we killed We have nothing to lose. Who could be our friends other than us? Night, angel and our buddies We leant out of every cliff We didn´t mind anything (literally: we sold its mother and we made its father cry) Did we fall or get up? These are complicated things Night, angel and our buddies Edited (11/30/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/1/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/1/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/1/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/1/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/1/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/5/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Most touching Turkish movies

2658.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Nov 2012 Fri 11:02 pm   Quoting Abla     Mutual caring and friendship in the dark back streets.   Deniz Türkali as Melek couldn´t have been better. I am happy you like it. I watched it long time ago and only thing I remember is that it was very touching. I guess I should watch it again.

Thread: TERCÜME ya da ÇEVİRİ SANATINDA KALİTE

2659.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Nov 2012 Thu 06:39 pm   Quoting MarioninTurkey      Göküyüm, I agree. But both literal and free translation is important on a site like this, so I think it is helpful to do both i.e. give a literal translation into English and then present "how we would say it". I believe that the greatest translators are the ones who translate the sense and meaning and feelings, not the words. I was really impressed once listening to a Turkish guy doing simultaneous translation. The Turk he was translating for said literally "X was the type of man who wouldn´t tread on an ant". The translator said in English "X was the type of man who wouldn´t hurt a fly." That to me is expert translation! And he did it in an instanti simultaneously, without even stopping to think!!     That is a perfect example of why I prefer literal translation. I would translate like him if I hadn´t worried for learnersi. A learner doesn´t read a translation only for pleasure. He wants to understand a text word by word. A free translation can mislead him. But that doesn´t mean we should translate everything literally. But if it is possible, I prefer literal translation.

Thread: TRANSLATION PLEASE

2660.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Nov 2012 Thu 10:36 am   Quoting Can33   You will stay a friend of me everytime.I cant say lie that I was thinking marriage with you but when I came and I saw that your life style was not for me so you should understand that you are only my friend.       misspinup liked this message

Thread: Depression Pub

2661.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Nov 2012 Wed 10:13 pm I am in the manic period now but don´t worry I will come soon.

Thread: HAYDARPAŞA

2662.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Nov 2012 Wed 10:11 pm I think a dragon attacked the building in darkness. That really makes sense.

Thread: PM´s Lost Again

2663.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Nov 2012 Wed 10:03 pm   Quoting admin Is this still a problem? I checked the messages and didn´t see an issue.    Yes, it is still a problem. I still have many issues and you didn´t restore me

Thread: e to t please

2664.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Nov 2012 Wed 09:56 pm   Quoting Johnk Is this correct"Insanlar cok dostucanlisi" The people are/were very friendly. Is this correct? Is this present or past tense?   İnsanlar çok dost canlısı. Present tense. İnsanlar çok dost canlısıydı. Past tense. basima liked this message

Thread: GAZZA

2665.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Nov 2012 Wed 09:54 pm We can´t even boycott French products, how will we boycott İsraeli ones? Edited (11/28/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

2666.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Nov 2012 Wed 09:50 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb     Yardım için çoook sağol.. Some things are more clear now for me,I gonna find some new examples to try translate them.   Good idea.If you can´t find me here because I have some exams, knock the Tunci´s door. nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: Tourist Scam

2667.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Nov 2012 Wed 05:50 pm   Quoting Henry And I thought 15TL for a beer was excessive. 1500 TL is unbelievable, but if you don´t look at your credit card slip carefully, or assume 1500 is 15.00, then you will have problems.  Like you should do everywhere, always check your change in front of the cashier after handing over larger notes. I was short-changed the other day, but if you leave the shop, and then check your change, it´s too late. I do it in Australia, but I was in a hurry in Istanbul, and was caught out. I assume it was an accident by the cashier, which can happen anytime. I´ve learnt my lesson.  The problem here is they really want 1500 TL from you for two beers in some bars in Turkey. Somebody comes when you wander around on the street and he says you that he knows a good place to drink something. And if you accept to accompany him, he takes you to one of bars which he has an agreement with before, then after you drink a few beers he disappears and the personnel in the bar force you to pay 1500 TL. In short they rob you using force.That is so sick and barbaric. Sometimes I hate my humanity when I read this kind of news.   Edited (11/28/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

2668.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Nov 2012 Wed 05:23 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb I found those sentence in my book for English(I´m still going to school),so I hope that you can help with it,to translate it. 1.In this photo,I´m sitting in his kitchen.   Bu fotoğrafta onun muftağında oturuyorum. 2.It´s Sunday morning and we´re have breakfast of bacon and eggs.  Bugün Pazartesi sabahı ve kahvaltıda domuz pastırması ve yumurta var. 3.My brother likes dogs that don´t bark.    Abim havlamayan köpekleri seviyor. 4.From that moment he was a different man.   O andan itibaren o farklı bir adam oldu. 5. While trying to eat something,I dropped a plate.    Birşey yemeye çalışırken,bir tabak düşürdüm. 6. I´m here to warn you.    Buradayım uyarmak için seni.  Seni uyarmak için buradayım 7.You have still chanse to save yourself.    Sen yine kendini kurtamak şansın var. Kendini kurtarmak için hala şansın var 8.After Christmas,he didn´t go back to his mean,old ways.    Noelden sonra,o onun kötü,eski yola geri gitmedi. Noelden sonra o eski kırıcı davranışlarına geri dönmedi. d   Learn from your mistakes. Look at abla´s first attempts and see how she learnt. Edited (11/28/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/28/2012) by gokuyum lana- liked this message

Thread: I love this site ^_^

2669.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Nov 2012 Wed 04:53 pm Ey düşmanım; sen benim ifadem ve hızımsın.. Gündüz geceye muhtaç,bana da sen lazımsın... (Necip Fazıl Kısakürek)

Thread: Tourist Scam

2670.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Nov 2012 Wed 02:11 pm http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/national-geographic-exposes-tourist-scam-in-turkey-.aspx?pageID=238&nid=35644&NewsCatID=349   Please be careful and don´t go anywhere with someone you don´t know. Don´t drink and eat anything without asking their prices. Get information about trusted places from your friends or from internet. Edited (11/28/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/28/2012) by gokuyum ümitli liked this message

Thread: GAZZA

2671.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Nov 2012 Tue 10:02 pm   Quoting haniagree funny story..... in malaysia people decided to boycott McDonalds because it is a jewish company... so ever since the boycott is made famous through facebook, instagram etc, McDonalds, worried they may lose their customers, gave free McMuffins in the morning, and subsequently offered 100,000 burgers for free....   and what did the malaysians do? queue up at mcdonalds so not to miss the chance of getting free burgers!!   it think it was kind of funny, but also, sadly shows that humans have no willpower when it comes to boycott... This shows that a boycott can only be effective if it is your government that does it. But this is not easy too.   Edited (11/27/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/27/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/27/2012) by gokuyum haniagree liked this message

Thread: GAZZA

2672.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Nov 2012 Tue 09:46 pm It is easier to boycott yourself than all those companies. Don´t you know there are many multi-national companies? How will you know if they have Israeli partners? But at least you can boycott Coca-Cola symbolically. Edited (11/27/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: pls help

2673.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Nov 2012 Tue 09:36 pm   Quoting gokuyum     I look for a partner. I want to come to England in accordance with Ankara Agreement. I can meet with who wants to be a partner. We can meet in a cafe. I am open to any job offers.   I will say again don´t trust people.

Thread: Depression Pub

2674.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Nov 2012 Tue 09:30 pm God bless madness and save us from melancholy.

Thread: \"text\" e to t lutfen

2675.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Nov 2012 Tue 09:24 pm   Quoting Johnk Tamam, yardimin icin tesekkur ederim   You mean message? Mesajımı aldın mı? basima and tunci liked this message

Thread: pls help

2676.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Nov 2012 Tue 09:15 pm   Quoting britturk   ingiltere de ortak arıyorum ankara anlasması ıle ıngılterye gelmek ıstıyorum ortak arayan varsa gorusulur cafe olabilir.iş teklıflerıne acıgım   I look for a partner. I want to come to England in accordance with Ankara Agreement. I can meet with who wants to be a partner. We can meet in a cafe. I am open to any job offers. britturk liked this message

Thread: TERCÜME ya da ÇEVİRİ SANATINDA KALİTE

2677.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Nov 2012 Tue 04:56 pm I don´t follow any method when I translate. But there is one thing I pay atention and it is to translate texts literally as much as it is possible. Because there are learners in this site and they read our translations and they want to form a relation between Turkish and English expressions word by word. If it is not possible to translate an expression literally, I explain what it says literally and what it means in English.

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

2678.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Nov 2012 Mon 10:46 am   Quoting Abla May I ask someone to take a look at my attempts. So many possessive suffixes needed this time, let´s see how many I have ignored:   1. The Great Fire of Turku is still the largest urban fire in the history of Finland and the Nordic countries. Turku şehrinin yangını bu zamana dek Finlandiya ve İskandınavya’nın tarihteki en büyük yangın felaketi sayılır.    2. The fires started burning on 4 September 1827 in burgher Carl Gustav Hellman’s house slightly before 9 p.m. Yangınlar, 4 eylül 1827’de sabahleyin biraz saat dokuzdan biraz önce kasabalı Carl Gustav Hellman’ın evinde başladı.   3. The fire quickly swept through the northern quarter, spread to the southern quarter and jumped the Aura River, setting the Cathedral Quarter on fire before midnight. Yangın, kuzey mahallesinde hızla yayılıp, güney mahallesine uzanıp gece yarısından önce katedral mahallesini alevlendirerek ”Aura” ırmağına atladı sıçradı.   4. By the next day, the fire had destroyed 75% of the city. Only 25% of the city was spared, mainly the western and southern portions. Yangın ertesi güne kadar şehrin yüzde 75’ini imha etmişti. Sadece şehrinin çoğunlukla batı ve güney bölümlerdeki yüzde 25’i yangından korundu.   5. The fire destroyed the historical downtown area of Turku, including Turku Cathedral and the main building of the Imperial Academy of Turku, which were badly damaged. Yangın, Turku katedralı ile Turku İmparatorluk Akademisi’nin ana binasının bulunduğu şehrin tarihi merkezini mahvetti.   6. The damage was considerable and was felt for a long period of time in the aftermath of the event. Zarar büyüktü ve afet sonrasında uzun bir zaman boyunca hissedildi.   7. 11,000 people were left homeless, and 27 casualties and hundreds of wounded were recorded. 11.000 kişi evsiz kaldı, 27 ölü ve yüzlerce yaralı kaydedildi.   8. Most of Finnish archives, including practically all material from the Middle ages, was destroyed in the fire. Fin arşivlerin çoğu, neredeyse Ortaçağa dayanan dokümanların tümü yangında yok oldu.   9. At the time of the fire, Turku was, and for some time afterwards, too, the largest city in Finland, which is why the Great Fire of Turku was a major national disaster. Turku, yangın zamanında ve yangından sonra bile bir müddet Finlandiya’nın en büyük şehriydi. Bu yüzden Turku’nun yangını büyük bir afetti.   10. As a result of the fire, the Imperial Academy of Turku was transferred to Helsinki, the new capital of the Grand Duchy of Finland, thus contributing to the city losing its significance as Helsinki grew. Turku İmparatorluk Akademisi yangın sonucunda Finlandiya Grandukalığı’nın yeni başkenti olan Helsinki’ye taşındı. Bu da Turku şehrinin önemini yitirmesine ve Helsinki’nin büyümesine sebep oldu.   Great attempt.

Thread: All-time favorite Barış Manço song? A vote!

2679.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Nov 2012 Mon 10:30 am   Quoting si++     OK.   But still the following implies that there is powerful man (father) between the lovers.   Binboğanın kızıdır o sana ne gerek She´s the daughter of "Binboğa", she´s not for you.   I mean what kind of obstacle can you imagine if she´s only a girl from "Binboğa". Do you mean it´s only the moutains that blocks "Barış" reaching her? I have the imperession that there is somebody in between.   Actually I made a mistake. I presented my interpretion as the only one. Yours is possible too. Because being open to many interpretions is one of the speacialities of literature. We can´t limit its interpretions. Even author can´t do it.

Thread: All-time favorite Barış Manço song? A vote!

2680.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Nov 2012 Sun 11:44 pm   Quoting si++     q1: No idea. I never listened to it before.   q2: Binboğa (lit. 1000 bulls) is the (nick?) name of a rich, powerful man whose girl Barış is in love (in the song).Lyrics is about an impossible love between a poor man a rich girl.   baba ocağından çıktım yıllar öncesi. bir gün kader karşıma çıkardı seni. bir göründün, bir yok oldun serap misali. dere tepe demem güzel, ararım seni. (x2) kurda kuşa akıl sordum; dediler vazgeç. binboğa´nın kızıdır o, sana ne gerek? bir göründün, bir yok oldun serap misali. dere tepe demem güzel, ararım seni (x2) (elektro gitar solosu, ardından giren tipik bir murat ses klavyesi solosu...) kozan yaylasından geldim barış´tır adım. I come from Kozan plateau, they call me "Barış" bugün varsak yarın yoğuz, doğrudur sözüm. Today we exist, gone tomorow, it´s my true words bir gün elbet biter vadem, çağırır tanrım. My numbered days will sure be over one day and my God will call me artık mahşer gününde ararım seni. Then I will continue to search for you on other side as well inan mahşer gününde ararım seni. (x2) Believe me I will continue to search for you on other side as well     Binboğa is the name of a mountain series in Turkey. So Binboğa´nın kızı means "daughter of Binboğa mountains" She is like a fairy, she appears and disappears suddenly.

Thread: All-time favorite Barış Manço song? A vote!

2681.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Nov 2012 Sun 11:07 pm   Quoting trip Quote: Gokuyum Wow you already know a lot. Do you know Barış Manço´s mother Rikkat Hanım was a singer too. And she sang one of Barış´s songs?. But she couldn´t say the words "Barış will die one day and will be soil" in the end of the song and she changed them as "Barış will grow and be a man" like Barış Manço was still a child for her.     Yes, I have seen this clip, and I love this song. "Gülme Ha Gülme." (Don´t Laugh, Ha, Don´t Laugh -- Do I have this right?) I had never heard the story about her changing the lyrics at the end, though. That is very touching. And then when Rikkat Hanım died, Barış sang "Gül Pembe" for her, yes?   I read somewhere that he wrote that song for his grandmother after her death. Actually some people also believe that it was written for Prophet Mohammed. Because in İslam rose is the symbol of the prophet. So they established a connection between prophet and the name Rosepink. Edited (11/25/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Barış Manço-Cem Karaca Duet

2682.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Nov 2012 Sun 11:02 pm   Quoting trip Uzun İnce Bir Yoldayım: My I Am On A Long and Narrow Road (?)   Here is the version I know:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsJs-XQUrT8 I love it!       This is a cover too trip. Edited (11/25/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: All-time favorite Barış Manço song? A vote!

2683.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Nov 2012 Sun 10:34 pm   Quoting trip Quote: Gokuyum Do you know Barış Manço played in a movie? Its name is "Baba Bizi Eversene". Here is a clip form the movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZU2PvFpz5U&feature=related     Yes, I love "Baba Bizi Eversene"! Barış is so funny and lovable in this movie, snapping his suspenders like a Charlie Chaplin character! Or at the end of your clip, where he accidentally takes a drink from the baby´s bottle! I have also found this movie is a good place to test my Turkish skills. Every time I watch I pick up a little bit more of what is being said. A very little bit, mind you, but I am making progress! Also a great clip from this movie: "Ben bilirim." Barış at his most attractive! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jBzHVAofm0      Wow you already know a lot. Do you know Barış Manço´s mother Rikkat Hanım was a singer too. And she sang one of Barış´s songs?. But she couldn´t sing the words "Barış will die one day and will be soil" in the end of the song and she changed them.   She changed the end like this: Barış will grow and be a man Barış will be a soldier and cannoneer Barış will be a father   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvnMNmkuYKQ   original song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfo1gMEw2x8&feature=related   Edited (11/25/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/25/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/25/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/25/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/25/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: All-time favorite Barış Manço song? A vote!

2684.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Nov 2012 Sun 10:02 pm Do you know Barış Manço played in a movie? Its name is "Baba Bizi Eversene". Here is a clip form the movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZU2PvFpz5U&feature=related Edited (11/25/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/25/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Barış Manço-Cem Karaca Duet

2685.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Nov 2012 Sun 09:44 pm We can say its covers are very popular with the youngs but I am not sure about the original version.

Thread: Barış Manço-Cem Karaca Duet

2686.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Nov 2012 Sun 09:26 pm   Quoting alameda Ummm....interesting. I´m a bit more of a traditional type...older I guess. Here is one of my favorite versions, although I must say the Cem Karaca, Baris Manço one is probably my favorite. I love Cahit Berkay´s introduction to the piece. He is one of my favorite Turkish musicians.  From my perspective it seems a very popular piece, even with the young. Is this true?         Ah great.

Thread: Barış Manço-Cem Karaca Duet

2687.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Nov 2012 Sun 08:55 pm There are so many covers of this song. It is not possible to know the number. I love Pentagram´s metal cover most. It is so different than original.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7m1AksgupA

Thread: ASURE

2688.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Nov 2012 Sun 08:49 pm Okay you made it I am going to beg my mom to cook it. Edited (11/25/2012) by gokuyum tunci liked this message

Thread: last letter pls help kind people

2689.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Nov 2012 Sun 08:43 pm   Quoting Teach-er i wish best for you. but it seems he doesnt value your love. we are translating what you wrote and we know what you feel.  i think you should not think about him anymore. dont exhaust yourself....   It seems at last you too gave up hope of this love teacher. But you helped britturk a lot. I guess you are our second Tunci Edited (11/25/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: ASURE

2690.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Nov 2012 Sun 08:39 pm   Quoting tunci     AŞURE    We are in the month of Muharram, the first month of the Islamic calendar that is referred to as the month of “Aşure” in Turkey. It is considered sacred by Muslims. There is a special dessert called “Aşure” during this month. I love it. Here is the recipe ;   Ingredients 3 cups of wheat 1/2 a cup of rice 1/2 a cup of chickpeas 1/2 a cup of grapes 5-6 figs and 5-6 apricots 2-3 slices of orange peels 6 cups of sugar 1/3 cups of rose water 1 cup of walnuts or hazelnuts 2 teaspoons of cinnamon 1 teaspoon of salt Asure recipe Wash wheat, rice, chickpeas and beans. Soak the wheat and rice in a pot overnight, and soak the chickpeas and beans in a second pot overnight. Dice orange peels and add into the rice and wheat with 10 cups of water. Boil on low heat until the wheat is soft. Boil the chickpeas and beans together in a seperate pot. Add the chickpeas and beans with their stock to the wheat and rice pot and boil everything together for a while. Add in sugar and continue cooking. Then add in washed grapes and chopped apricots. Add in diced figs, stir, and lower the heat. Let cook for 10 minutes and then remove from heat. Add in rose water, cover and let sit for half an hour. Pour into serving bowls while still warm. Let cool, and then sprinkle crushed walnuts or hazelnuts and cinnamon on top. I ate one today. I want more   tunci liked this message

Thread: Barış Manço-Cem Karaca Duet

2691.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Nov 2012 Sun 01:47 pm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAH3vImnEtI trip, tunci and alameda liked this message

Thread: Arabesque and Rock Together

2692.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Nov 2012 Sun 01:38 pm Cem Karaca and Mahsun kırmızıgül sing this wonderful song together. One of them is a rock star and other is arabesque star. The result is great.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6rzLM-zu7U Edited (11/25/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: All-time favorite Barış Manço song? A vote!

2693.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Nov 2012 Sun 01:32 pm   Quoting trip Vote! Vote! Vote!     Will there be a prize at the end? By the way I know Barış Manço was a great musician but don´t ignore Cem Karaca. His influence was as big as Barış´s on the Turkish rock music.

Thread: Turkish Grammar I want to share with other learners

2694.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Nov 2012 Sun 10:12 am   Quoting Abla Thanks, Henry. Interestingly, in my language the metaphoric use of ´shadow´ is always something negative. Too little sun here.  I think it generally has a positive meaning in Turkish. Only negative use of it which I remember is the very popular saying of philosopher Diogenes of Sinope. We really like this saying.   Gölge etme başka ihsan istemem. Don´t make a shadow, I don´t want any favor from you other than this.   It is believed that Alexander had asked Diogenes if he had wanted any favor from him. Diogenes´ answer was this.

Thread: Very nice turkish song

2695.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Nov 2012 Sat 09:02 pm Lets think about this "like your hand, like your hand". It doesn´t make a lot of sense. "El" also means "stranger". "Elin gibi" can also mean "Like I belong to strangers" It doesn´t make sense too. In short nothing makes sense. Edited (11/24/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/24/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Very nice turkish song

2696.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Nov 2012 Sat 08:50 pm   Quoting Henry     And you translated it because it wasn´t from Facebook. Bence İngilizcen mükemmel.    Thank you but I wish I hadn´t translated it. I mentioned it above with an edit. Edited (11/24/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/24/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/24/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Depression Pub

2697.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Nov 2012 Sat 08:44 pm Here I am again my bipolar friends. I have lost myself again in melancholy. Untill madness comes and takes me, lets have a drink and curse the destiny. Edited (11/24/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Very nice turkish song

2698.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Nov 2012 Sat 08:40 pm   Quoting nifrtity http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=3p_L5-f2Q5I&NR=1 I haven´t loved someone this much before my love.  I thought you were mine for a life time. Love blinded me. Where is it? You said the love you promised was hidden in your heart. As long as I ran after you, you always ran away my love. I have always felt alone in this city like your hand like your hand. Where is it? You said the love you promised was hidden in your heart. As long as I ran after you, you always ran away my love. I have always felt alone in this city like your hand like your hand. I can´t make you love me by force. I can´t say stay if your heart belongs to another. You said no good comes from harm. You are a liar spring, I can´t be fooled.(What will you do if she is a liar, will you kill him? For god´s sake. Where is my Xanax? My hand started to tremble.)     I translated it as a text for a change. And I translated it for sport. I wish I hadn´t translated it. Edited (11/24/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/24/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/24/2012) by gokuyum nifrtity liked this message

Thread: HARDSHIPS BREED BRILLIANCE

2699.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Nov 2012 Sat 08:19 pm   Quoting alameda It is beyond our comprehension, way beyond.       It is normal because Alpha wrote it. Wisest of wises

Thread: Ottoman Poetry

2700.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Nov 2012 Sat 07:40 pm I read this poem today and liked it. It is believed that it was written for Shah İsmail by Yavuz Sultan Selim after he had beaten him in battlefield. If you read same colored words, you will read the same lines in an order. We call this style "chess style"   Sanma şahım /herkesi sen / sadıkane / yar olur Herkesi sen / dost mu sandın / belki ol / ağyar olur Sadıkane / belki ol / alemde bir / dildar olur Yar olur / ağyar olur / dildar olur / serdar olur "   Yavuz Sultan Selim   My shah, don´t think everyone is a loyal friend Did you think everyone was friend, maybe they were enemies. Maybe there is only one loyal beloved in this universe There is friend, there is enemy, there is beloved, there is commander.   Edited (11/24/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/24/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/24/2012) by gokuyum Umut_Umut and Abla liked this message

Thread: HARDSHIPS BREED BRILLIANCE

2701.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Nov 2012 Sat 07:14 pm   Quoting alameda there is no there there....     He wrote something so brilliant, we even can´t see it   nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: Turkish Grammar I want to share with other learners

2702.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Nov 2012 Sat 02:34 pm The interesting thing is nobody knows that "saye" means shadow in Turkey. I guess it is a Farsi word. We say gölge instead of it. But we still use "sayesinde" Edited (11/24/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/24/2012) by gokuyum caliptrix and Henry liked this message

Thread: really short translation pls help tr-eng

2703.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Nov 2012 Sat 12:36 pm   Quoting mavigozlu thank you! but the thing is it is written "istem" could it be or is it just a mispelling? I thought of it meaning "a request/will for something to happen" is it possible?    İstem is a noun. It means "will, request" But "olmasını istem" sounds really weird. You can´t use "istem" that way. So I think there is a typo there. It must be "isterim".That is the only way it makes sense for me. basima liked this message

Thread: really short translation pls help tr-eng

2704.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Nov 2012 Sat 12:21 pm   Quoting mavigozlu Hi, I only need a 2 word translation, tried doing it on my own, but I dont know if its even correct and I know you guys here are great and helpful "olmasini isterim" How would you guys translate this? please help me because its quite important! and thank you in advance    I want it to be or I want it to happen basima and tunci liked this message

Thread: pls help

2705.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Nov 2012 Sat 11:56 am Thank you very much Henry.

Thread: T 2 E

2706.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Nov 2012 Sat 11:55 am Let me explain "yeter ki" It literally means "it is enough that". But because it expresses a condition, we can translate it as "if only" or "just".   Senin için herşeyi yaparım yeter ki beni sev. I would do anything for you if only you loved me. or I will do anything for you, just love me. (We prefer this in Turkish) Edited (11/24/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/24/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/24/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/24/2012) by gokuyum Henry and nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: T 2 E

2707.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Nov 2012 Sat 11:33 am , Edited (11/24/2012) by gokuyum nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: pls help

2708.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Nov 2012 Sat 09:32 am   Quoting Henry     This is a breath that comes with you. It is like opening my eyes to another life. It is like I had been born, I had lived somewhere, I had died and now I exist with you on a different planet that nobody has ever known. Oh how difficult (it is) to fit my love for you into the ineffective silence of words. The words that express emotions are so insufficient, as the poet said "they are scant". It doesn´t matter to which language they belong, all the words are weak and incomplete when it comes to express my love for you. My hand, my tongue, my heart, all of them beat with the same thing.... With your love they find life again and again. Maybe it will not be enough to say I love you, but these are the only valuable words that I have. I love you like my breath, like my fate. Thank you Henry for your corrections. I have a question. I used past tense in the sentence: (It is like/as if) now I existed with you on a different planet. I used past tense because I thought when you talk about an unreal situation, you make the verb past. So I wonder why it is wrong? Thank you again and have a nice day.     Edited (11/24/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: translation please

2709.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Nov 2012 Fri 09:18 pm   Quoting Henry   My attempt I want to thank you for everything. You are a fantastic woman. I love you. I would want to talk the same language with you. When I stayed here, it was lovely for me. There isn´t anything that makes me happy other than your existence. I´ll always miss you.   It is possible. Don´t only want, just do it. Henry liked this message

Thread: E to T ( kind of urgente ^^)

2710.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Nov 2012 Fri 09:16 pm I can´t even fly in my dreams. I only fall, again and again. So scary Edited (11/23/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: t to e

2711.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Nov 2012 Fri 09:11 pm Müsvedde here means "poor copy" Soylu müsveddesi means " a poor copy of a noble man" Edited (11/23/2012) by gokuyum haniagree liked this message

Thread: pls help

2712.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Nov 2012 Fri 09:08 pm I wouldn´t translate this text if I didn´t think it was for you. I am so sick of facebook bullshit. slovenka007, basima and Henry liked this message

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2713.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Nov 2012 Fri 07:29 pm   Quoting britturk Seninle gelen bir nefes bu Seni sevmek başka bir hayata gözlerini açmak gibi Doğmuşum, bir yerlerde yaşamışım, ölmüşüm de seninle kimsenin bilmediği bambaşka bir gezegende yeniden var olmuşum gibi..Ahhh ne zor sana olan sevgimi kelimeler gibi aciz bir sessizliğe sığdırmak...Oysa duyguların dilde karşılığı yetersiz, az ve hatta şairin dediği gibi kifayetsiz..Ben sana olan sevgimi anlatacak sözcükleri hangi dilde arasam, zayıf ve eksik kalıyor Elim, dilim, gönlüm hep aynı şeyle çarpıyor...Sevginle yeniden ve yeniden can buluyor SENİ SEVİYORUM demek belki yetmeyecek ama elimde en değerli bu sözcükler var SENİ NEFESİM GİBİ SEVİYORUM KADERIM GIBI SEVIYORUM ♥♥♥♥♥.   This is a breath that comes with you. It is like opening my eyes to another life. It is like I had been born, I  had lived somewhere, I had died and now I existed with you in a different planet that nobody has never known. Oh how difficult to fit my love for you into an incapable silence like words. The words that express emotions are so insufficient, as the poet said "they are scant". All the words are weak and incomplete it doesn´ matter which language they belong when it comes to express my love for you. My hand, my tongue, my heart, all of them beat with the same thing.... With your love they find life again and again. Maybe it will not be enough to say I love you but these are the only valuable words that I have. I love you like my breath like my fate.   Note: I hope this is the happy ending   Can someone correct my grammar mistakes? I made a few I guess. Thanks. Edited (11/23/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/23/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/23/2012) by gokuyum basima liked this message

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2714.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Nov 2012 Fri 07:09 pm   Quoting britturk Seninle gelen bir nefes bu Seni sevmek başka bir hayata gözlerini açmak gibi Doğmuşum, bir yerlerde yaşamışım, ölmüşüm de seninle kimsenin bilmediği bambaşka bir gezegende yeniden var olmuşum gibi..Ahhh ne zor sana olan sevgimi kelimeler gibi aciz bir sessizliğe sığdırmak...Oysa duyguların dilde karşılığı yetersiz, az ve hatta şairin dediği gibi kifayetsiz..Ben sana olan sevgimi anlatacak sözcükleri hangi dilde arasam, zayıf ve eksik kalıyor Elim, dilim, gönlüm hep aynı şeyle çarpıyor...Sevginle yeniden ve yeniden can buluyor SENİ SEVİYORUM demek belki yetmeyecek ama elimde en değerli bu sözcükler var SENİ NEFESİM GİBİ SEVİYORUM KADERIM GIBI SEVIYORUM ♥♥♥♥♥. How would you communicate with eachother if this forum didn´t exist? If your boy friend wrote this, good news he tells you how he loves you with poetic words.   basima liked this message

Thread: please help

2715.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Nov 2012 Fri 07:37 am   Quoting Henry     ahhh, thanks Gokuyum, I guessed the translation of that part wasn´t meant to be literal. I agree these traits are a worry, not something that I would take as a positive sign, just something that can lead to problems in the future, especially if it happens now. These are signs of a dominating male in my opinion.  Exactly. That is a macho behavior.

Thread: THYMUS GLAND. VIBRATE IT

2716.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Nov 2012 Fri 07:33 am   Quoting AlphaF It is no coicidence that Middle Eastern people tend to beat their chests when in grief or mourning; this act is known to help release stress and make people feel better. It seems it doesn´t help them a lot.   Edited (11/23/2012) by gokuyum Abla liked this message

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2717.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Nov 2012 Fri 07:21 am   Quoting Henry   If a person is in love, they will be jealous, they will shout, they will restrict you, they will call you to account, they will claim you, but look for one who understands (you) Is this from Facebook?  PS The ´will´ part can also be removed from the translation, ie they are jealous, they shout, etc ....ama anlayana işte. How can we translate this? Like this "if you understood, you would appreciate it" It is not a literal translation but it makes sense. He will be jealous, he will shout, he will restrict you, he will call you to account and you will appreciate him because you know he does all of these because he loves you. And you will not say a word. That is just sick.   Edited (11/23/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: litlle T to E please^^

2718.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Nov 2012 Fri 07:10 am   Quoting ikicihan the difference between " adını ... koyduk" we named him as ... and "adı ... oldu." he was named as ...   about second sentence: they were discussing names to name their son such as ahmet mehmet ali veli... but they are not sure which one to name. at the end they decided a name after long discussions. that is why they dont simply say we named him as something. as i understand he was named after some discussions. so they used the expression "...oldu"   It is possible but you know my simple explanation . I think "our son´s name" has to be an object instead of being a subject. Edited (11/23/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Why don´t we Turks have super heroes?

2719.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Nov 2012 Thu 06:19 pm Why don´t we have at least a Captain Turkey? It would be nice Anyways because we don´t have any super heroes, my favorite super hero is Rorshach. He smells bad but he is mad and stubborn that is enough for me   Edited (11/22/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: litlle T to E please^^

2720.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Nov 2012 Thu 05:58 pm   Quoting Henry     Yes, the use of oldu seemed stange to me as well. Maybe he changed his name later, because he didn´t like the name he was given.    I don´t guess so. But everything is possible My explanation is simple: His Turkish sucks. archinia and Henry liked this message

Thread: help, thanks

2721.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Nov 2012 Thu 05:52 pm Here is a interpretation: Your talent hasn´t decreased because of practising sword with a gentle man like Sultan after all time. Edited (11/22/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/22/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: help, thanks

2722.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Nov 2012 Thu 05:46 pm   Quoting Abla       My Try, Not Sure:   Look Hasan, teaching the Sultan**) how to hold a sword in his sweet hands doesn´t seem to have decreased you either.   **) ...or maybe the Queen/Princess, I don´t know how to interpret it here. I don´t understand this sentence. Anyways I don´t like the movie too

Thread: PM´s Lost Again

2723.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Nov 2012 Thu 05:43 pm I have lost myself, can admin restore me too? basima and slovenka007 liked this message

Thread: e to t lutfen

2724.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Nov 2012 Thu 05:39 pm   Quoting Johnk Turkce dersiniz nasil....present tense, future tense.   If you are asking how to make it future it is "Türkçe dersiniz nasıl olacak?" Edited (11/22/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Queen Elisabeth

2725.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Nov 2012 Thu 05:34 pm   Quoting alameda Actually, she in fantastic condition, for her age. At 87 most look quite a bit more used up. She is a bit plump, not terribley though. Her husband, Prince Phillip is in spectacular condition as well, for his age. I guess that´s what access to great resources get you.  Quoting AlphaF I would not call her a fragile oldster....She does not like it !     She is better than me   Abla liked this message

Thread: litlle T to E please^^

2726.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Nov 2012 Thu 05:30 pm   Quoting archinia Oglumuzun ismi  Muhammed oldu hayirli ugurlu olsun   This sentence sounds weird. "Our son´s name has become Mohammed, may it be beneficial and fortunate(for him)" It sounds weird in English too. I would say "Oğlumuzun ismini Muhammed koyduk." Edited (11/22/2012) by gokuyum Henry liked this message

Thread: Turkish Facebook Poetry 20 Years Later

2727.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Nov 2012 Tue 07:47 pm   Quoting ikicihan i dont like mixing languages, using their vocabulary is ok but not like that above.   the last line seem incorrect. there are triple negatives which equalls to confusion. "never", "ignore", "forget" are negatives and -me (in etme) is negative too.   Two negatives is ok. for example: Hiç yapmamış değilim: I did it at least once.   "Ignore" and "forget" are gramatically positive but semantically negative. I used two negatives together (never forget etme) because in Turkish sometimes we use them this way. Ex: Hiç gitmedim. Edited (11/20/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Turkish Facebook Poetry 20 Years Later

2728.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Nov 2012 Tue 06:09 pm Seni "love"ıyorum   Seni bana "forward" eden "fate"e "sacrafice" olayım İki "hand"im "blood"ta, iki "eye"ım iki "fountain" olsa da Seni "love"ıyorum, benim "blue-eyed beloved"ım Bunu "never forget" etme, beni "never ignore" etme   So romantic harp00n liked this message

Thread: SOME TURKISH WORDS THAT ARE IN USE IN SERBIAN LANGUAGE

2729.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Nov 2012 Tue 05:48 pm It seems we corrupted a few languages too But don´t worry English and French took your revenge

Thread: The legacy of a poet commemorated by UNESCO: Nabi

2730.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Nov 2012 Tue 05:45 pm   Quoting AlphaF     Decent commons did not give a hoot to this language..... Lol.

Thread: All-time favorite Barış Manço song? A vote!

2731.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Nov 2012 Tue 05:35 pm 1) Kol Düğmeleri (my all time favorite of Barış Manço) 2) Gülpembe 3) Can Bedenden Çıkmayınca     Edited (11/20/2012) by gokuyum thehandsom liked this message

Thread: PLEASE HELPPP! - I´m desperate :S

2732.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Nov 2012 Mon 09:14 am   Quoting rumeysa                                         1 NUMARALI YAZARLIK SÖZLEŞMESİ    taraflar arasındaki beyan sonuçlandı... ...´da kurulmuş bulunan.. ..tarafından temsil edilen (bundan sonra siparişi veren taraf olarak bahsedilmiştir) ve  yazar:...doğum:...baba adı:....adres:....hesap numarası:....iş bankasıyla açılan:...bankanın adresi:....banka şifresi:...hızlı şifre:...(bundan sonra anlaşmalı taraf olarak bahsedilmiştir.)...     There are many mistakes in the rest of the translation too. Maybe I made some mistakes too. As Henry said this is not the place to translate this text. You need a professional translator who has knowledge about law. Edited (11/19/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/19/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/19/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/19/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/19/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/19/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: PLEASE HELPPP! - I´m desperate :S

2733.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Nov 2012 Mon 09:09 am   Quoting Alma12 Dear Rumeysa, you helped me sooo much. Thank you, thank you, thank you     In Turkey language of law has still some old Ottoman words. So as you mentioned before we can translate "autorship contract" as "telif sözleşmesi" Edited (11/19/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: The legacy of a poet commemorated by UNESCO: Nabi

2734.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Nov 2012 Mon 09:03 am   Quoting Abla     I have begun to see how these old compounds are all upside down. The language is Turkish, the words are Arabic and the word order of the noun phrases is Persian. These compounds must have sounded so strange in the commons´ ears. In Ottoman times common people were famillier with Ottoman poetry and they would understand these poems at least to a certain degree. Because there was a certain vocabulary which poets used to describe their beloved and their emotions.  And this would make some vocabulary easier to learn. I am sure Ottoman poetry was popular in the common folk.

Thread: A Bağlama Resitale

2735.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Nov 2012 Sun 06:06 pm He plays bağlama so great. He makes it almost cry http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fJw71ZJUy4 Edited (11/18/2012) by gokuyum trip liked this message

Thread: The legacy of a poet commemorated by UNESCO: Nabi

2736.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Nov 2012 Sun 05:37 pm Here is a gazelle from Nabi.   GAZEL GAZELLE   Bir devlet içün çarha temennâdan usandık . Bir vasi içün ağyâra müdârâdan usandık We have got bored of begging to fate for a fortune We have got bored of acting nice to others for a patron Hicran çekerek zevk-ı mülâkatı unuttuk Mahmur olarak lezzet-i sabâdan usandık We have forgotten the pleasure of meeting  suffering from seperation We have got sick of taste of wine being drunk Düşdük kati çokdan heves-i devlete ammâ Ol dâiye-i dağdağa-fermadan usandık We have already fallen into desire of fortune but We have got bored of that disturbing inner desire. Dil gamla dahi dest ü giribandan usanmaz Bir yâr içün ağyâr ile gavgâdan usandık Heart isn´t bored of struggling with sorrow We have got bored fighting with a stranger for a beloved. Nâbi ile ol âfetin ahvâlini naklet Efsâne-i Mecnun ile Leyla?dan usandık Tell me the story of that beautiful with Nabi We have got bored of story of Leyla and Mecnun.   Nabi(1641-1712) Edited (11/18/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: what does this mean in turkish? very small :)

2737.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Nov 2012 Sat 10:10 am   Quoting Henry     damat = bridegroom tanışmak = to meet someone for the first time, to be acquainted with each other, (as opposed to buluşmak = to meet with someone) so this is a question asking Have we met with the bridegroom before?   Have we met before, bridegroom? He asks the question to bridegroom.

Thread: translation please

2738.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Nov 2012 Sat 09:20 am   Quoting Abla     Their mother cannot do what they want and she comes only one day a week. They go out together. Sometimes they we are together on special days like the children´s birthdays.     misspinup liked this message

Thread: Can someone tell me about some more awesome turkish music?

2739.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Nov 2012 Fri 02:57 pm Wonderful http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOdpX6dcrU4

Thread: please help

2740.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Nov 2012 Fri 02:50 pm   Quoting britturk Please just let me hear from you. The more Days that are passing without any news from you, The more it hurts. I can not console myself.  Please Let me know that you are okay let me talk to you...My Msn is ................ If you do not own an Msn Account use my other adress to contact me . The other adress is ................................ and the password is .....................!     Senden haber almadan ne kadar gün geçerse, o kadar canım yanıyor. Kendimi avutamıyorum. Lütfen iyi olduğunu söyle, seninle konuşmama izin ver. Msn´im........ Eğer msn hesabın yoksa , benimle iletişime geçmek için diğer adresimi kullan. Diğer adresim............. ve şifrem......................   Note1: I only translated this post to give you an advice. Please be patient and don´t chase him anymore. If you keep chasing him, he will keep running away. If he really loves you, he will come back. If he doesn´t come back, screw him.       Edited (11/16/2012) by gokuyum Lady_A, nifrtity, nemanjasrb, britturk, deli and 3 others liked this message

Thread: Benefits of learning Turkish

2741.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Nov 2012 Fri 08:03 am I want to mention the benefits of learning Turkish and how important can it be for the foreigners to speak the language. After you learn Turkish: 1) You will not need this forum to translate your love letters. You will be able to write your own letters. 2)You will be able to communicate with your boy or girl friend and you will understand each other better. 3) You will not need this forum to understand your boy or girl friend´s msn or facebook correspondences that you got secretly. 4)When you come to Turkey, it will be easy for you to communicate with dudus. 5)You will understand facebook aphorisms and you will get enlightened. 6)You will understand the meaning of Turkish pop songs and you will be schocked by how meaningful they are. 7) You will follow magazine news and you will learn every gossips about your favourite Tv star. 8) You will not need Turkish subtitles when you watch Turkish soap operas.   You see how important to learn Turkish. Please don´t give up. ümitli, sashk, elenagabriela, nemanjasrb and Henry liked this message

Thread: \"That\" Clause

2742.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Nov 2012 Tue 10:54 am   Quoting HaNNo     ok... so that is for you(singular) and he/she/it, right?   what about "you know that we came" OR "you know that I came"? Geldiğ-imiz-i biliyorsun Geldiğ-im-i biliyorsun... Is that even close to be correct or i´m creating my own rule??!! correct

Thread: \"That\" Clause

2743.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Nov 2012 Tue 10:45 am As for "you(plural)" it is "geldiğinizi". HaNNo liked this message

Thread: \"That\" Clause

2744.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Nov 2012 Tue 10:42 am   Quoting HaNNo I learnt that "diğini" means that you...  Geldiğini biliyorum = I know that you came   but what if i want to say I know that he came OR I know that you (plural) came what would change in the "diğini" endings.   Thanks Nothing changes apparently but possesive suffixes change. geldik-in-i  This "-in" is second person singular possesive suffix. geldik-i-n-i  This "-i" is third person singular possesive suffix. This "-n" is "pronominal n" It functions like a buffer letter.   They look same but as you can see they have different suffixes.   Edited (11/13/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: pls help

2745.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Nov 2012 Sun 03:03 am   Quoting britturk I can not keep going as if nothing has happened. Life was beautiful with you init. So many plans to look forward to. Tell me what do I have now? Everything is gone, there is nothing only emptiness. I do not want to make you feel sad, but please let me talk to you.   Hiçbir şey olmamış gibi devam edemem. Hayat seninle güzeldi. Dört gözle gerçekleşmesini beklediğim onca planlar Söyle şimdi neyim var? Herşey elimden kayıp gitti, geriye kalan sadece bir boşluk. Seni üzmek istemiyorum ama lütfen seninle konuşmama izin ver.

Thread: E to T please

2746.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Nov 2012 Sat 05:47 pm   Quoting Inscrutable Alışveris merkezine gidiyoruz. We are going to the shopping centre. Thank you   You should read about "pronominal n". Simply let me explain: merkez-i-n-e You see this "i" It is third person singular possesive suffix(other one is si). And after it always n comes as a buffer letter. We call this "n" pronominal n. Inscrutable liked this message

Thread: What does this mean in turkish?

2747.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Nov 2012 Sat 03:18 am   Quoting ikicihan "Allah gave you this life because your strong enough To live it." Allah bu hayatı sana verdi çünkü sen onu yaşayacak kadar kuvvetlisin.   "Keep your head up and keep your heart strong." Başını dik kalbini "sağlam" tut. (i am not sure if "sağlam" is a good translation, wait for others)   Sağlam seems fine. Edited (11/10/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: my try to write a thing like a poem in turkish

2748.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Nov 2012 Fri 09:39 pm I like writing simple but striking poems. That is also because my English vocabulary is not vast Here is my new English poem:   POEM Your absence is my old friend now A blurry sulky shadow, nothing more Every night, makes me remember anyhow How I loved you and how I didn’t know.   If I said come today, would it be too late After all those, have you still some desire? Your coldness is what makes my heart melt I am burning come freze me with your fire. Henry, ms.yousra and tunci liked this message

Thread: my try to write a thing like a poem in turkish

2749.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Nov 2012 Fri 09:36 pm   Quoting Abla Fısıldadın “Seni” diye gözlerin sırtımı yakarken, bir örümcek odasının köşesinde ağını dokurken o adını çoktan unuttuğum küçük bir otelin. “Seni.” Güneşte parlayan çarşaflar bence beyaz kara benziyordu. Az daha kızgın bir sesle birşeyler söyledin ama heceler kulağımda birbirine karıştı. Sustum, kaderin senden sonra daha da yoluma getireceklerini düşündüm.   Gizemli dilinden başka bir şey bende kalmadı.   Birçok cümle duydum, kendi ifadelerime çevirdim, yapısını inceledim ama senin o zaman duyurduklarını değil. Binlerce söz ezberden öğrendim ama mutfaktaki ocağa attığım son mektubunda yazdıklarını değil. Ve dinlediğim şarkıların sayısı kaç olursa olsun, keyifliyken söylediğin türküyü hiç bulmadım. Sokakta yürüdüğümüzde insanlar için biraz yüksek sesle bana dediğini hatırlıyor musun? -  Sevincimizi çocuk gibi herkese bildirmek istemişsin.  - Keşke onu rüyada bile aklıma getirseydim, şimdi anlardım belki.   Her ne ise sensiz yıllarımda yumuşak yabancı sana ait sözleri söylediğimde sanki dilim diline bir kere daha değiyor gibi.   Kim bilir bir gün daha da uzun yıllar sonra, bastonuma dayanarak ak saçlı, geri kalan güzelliğimi de kaybetmiş olarak aynı yokuş çıkıp aynı bahçeyle evi arıyorum. -  Zorla gerçek olur böyle hayaller ama  - yosunlu merdivende oturuyorsun, aksi külrengi bir adam, güneşte. Ağrıyan ayakların her zamanki gibi sabaha dek seni uyutmamıştı. Kızgınca kaşların altından gelene göz atıyorsun. Çok değiştin, aşkım, gülmek geliyor içimden ama sana ulaşıyorum, yanağını tatlı bir biçimde dokunup “Ben de seni” diye selam veriyorum, “hayatım boyunca tek seni.”   Great poem abla. There are some little mistakes but they are not important. I hope you can send us more Turkish poems.

Thread: E-T

2750.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Nov 2012 Fri 07:28 pm   Quoting ms.yousra   every raindrop is a newcomer to our world just like pieces of heaven falling down with mercy and blessings from Allah "welcome" imagine a prayer is accepted in return of a raindrop ....   bir yağmur damlayı bizim dunyada yeni gelce olur.  Allah dan cennet parçalar gibi rehmetle ve bereketlerle düşüyor "hoşgeldiniz "   Allah dua  yağmur damlayı değiştirme kabul edir.. this is my try  and 2nd post    Her yağmur damlası tıpkı gökyüzünün parçalarının Allah´ın rahmeti ve kutsamasıyla düşmesi gibi dünyaya bir yeni gelendir. Hoşegeldin. Herbir yağmur damlasını kabul edilmiş bir dua farzedin.   What do you mean by "newcomer"?   ms.yousra liked this message

Thread: Most touching Turkish movies

2751.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Nov 2012 Fri 07:03 pm   Quoting Henry     Now I am curious to know how this (I barely hold myself not to cry) is said in Turkish. This might be something I can use in Turkish conversations later. I am trying to improve my poor Turkish conversational skills, and sometimes mimicking common expressions, and learning phrases can help build confidence.    Ağlamamak için kendimi zor tuttum.   mom4maddi, basima, tomac and Henry liked this message

Thread: The Most touching turkish song you've ever heard is...?

2752.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Nov 2012 Fri 07:00 pm Barış Manço - Gülpembe  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE8FRv9UdsI Gülpembe Rosepink    Sen gülünce güller açar Gülpembe, When you laugh, roses bloom Rosepink Bülbüller seni söyler, biz dinlerdik Gülpembe.  Nightingales would sing you, we would listen, Rosepink. Sen gelince bahar gelir Gülpembe, When you come, spring comes Rosepink Dereler seni çaglar, sevinirdik Gülpembe.Brooks would gurgle you, we would be happy Rosepink Güz yagmurlariyla bir gün göçtün gittin, One day you had gone with the autumn rains Ìnanamadik Gülpembe. We couldn´t believe Rosepink. Bizim iller sessiz, bizim iller sensiz, Our lands without your voice, our lands without you Olamadi Gülpembe. Couldn´t be Rosepink   Dudagimda son bir türkü Gülpembe, One last song on my lips Rosepink Hala hep seni söyler, seni çagirir Gülpembe. Still always sings you and calls you Rosepink   Güz yagmurlariyla bir gün göçtün gittin, One day you had gone with the autumn rains Ìnanamadik Gülpembe. We couldn´t believe Rosepink. Bizim iller sessiz, bizim iller sensiz, Our lands without your voice, our lands without you Olamadi Gülpembe. Couldn´t be Rosepink Dudagimda son bir türkü Gülpembe, One last song on my lips Rosepink Hala hep seni söyler, seni çagirir Gülpembe. Still always sings you and calls you Rosepink Gözlerimde son bir bulut, Gülpembe, One last cloud on my eyes Rosepink Hala hep seni arar, seni bekler Gülpembe. Still always looks for you, waits you Rosepink   Dudagimda son bir türkü Gülpembe, One last song on my lips Rosepink Hala hep seni söyler, seni çagirir Gülpembe. Still always sings you and calls you Rosepink Gözlerimde son bir bulut, Gülpembe, One last cloud on my eyes Rosepink Hala hep seni arar, seni bekler Gülpembe. Still always looks for you, waits you Rosepink Edited (11/9/2012) by gokuyum alameda liked this message

Thread: Most touching Turkish movies

2753.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Nov 2012 Fri 06:36 pm   Quoting Henry I want to help with a small correction. This sentence is understandable but sounds strange in English. I would say "I barely held back the tears (myself)" or "I could barely hold myself back from crying". Unfortunately I can´t explain the English grammar reasons for this.   Thanks Henry. You know I think in Turkish. All my comments are translations of my thoughts. So that is why I do this kind of mistakes.   basima liked this message

Thread: Most touching Turkish movies

2754.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Nov 2012 Fri 04:42 am I watched "Dedemin İnsanları". It was about Turkish - Greek population exchange. The story had been cheerful in the beginning but it got darker after the millitary coup in Turkey and it ended very dramatically. I barely hold myself not to cry.

Thread: Turkish food

2755.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Nov 2012 Wed 05:42 pm   Quoting Umut_Umut Şırdan is made neither with penis nor intestine.   It is made with abomasum which is one of the 4 compartments  of the sheep stomach. rumen  (işkembe), reticulum (börkenek), omasum (kırkbayır),  abomasum (şırdan, şirden)   And in Turkish, this part is named Şırdan. The meal which is cooked with this part is named with the same name.     Does eating it make someone Turk?

Thread: Turkish food

2756.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Nov 2012 Wed 05:15 pm By the way it is not made of penis. It is made of intestine. Edited (11/7/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Turkish food

2757.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Nov 2012 Wed 05:10 pm   Quoting zeytinne So stop pretending you are Turkish. Found it, it´ s call "Şırdan" .     If eating it makes someone a Turk, you can eat it and be a Turk. I am happy with the way I am now.   Edited (11/7/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Few questions - T 2 E - \

2758.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Nov 2012 Wed 01:41 am   Quoting tomac Hi all   I found the following sentence in Turkish version of Debian project Social Contract, and I have a few questions about it:   Sözleşmenin bir parçası olan Debian Özgür Yazılım Yönergeleri (DFSG), başta uymayı kabul ettiğimiz tahaddütler olarak hazırlanmış, ardından Açık Kaynak Tanımı´nın temelleri olarak özgür yazılım topluluğuna bırakılmıştır.   1. I could not find translation for word "tahaddütler" - I think it is misspelt "taahhütler" ("commitments")? Am I right about it? Yes   2. My attempt to translate this sentence (with the help of the original version in English ) Sözleşmenin bir parçası olan Debian Özgür Yazılım Yönergeleri (DFSG), başta uymayı kabul ettiğimiz taahhütler olarak hazırlanmış, (...) In the beginning, Debian Free Software Guidelines, which are part of the Contract, were prepared as set of commitments which we agreed to conform to.  (correct)   (...)ardından Açık Kaynak Tanımı´nın temelleri olarak özgür yazılım topluluğuna bırakılmıştır. Later, they have been left to free software community as the basis of Open Source Definition. (correct)   I have a question about "bırakılmıştır" verb here - in English original, this part of sentence has the following counterpart: has been adopted by the free software community as the basis of the Open Source Definition. So the meaning is more like "rules of DFSG guidelines were later used by free software community...". However, when I look at Turkish translation, I feel like the meaning of the translated sentence is "DFSG guidelines were left (e.g. by people who created them) to free software community, which later used it in ...". I think that meanings are slightly different here - Turkish version sounds to me like if it assumed active role of "someone" in "giving" the guidelines to free software community; while, in English translation, I think it is more like "free software community took guidelines, and used it in Open Source Definition". Not sure if that makes sense I wonder if my doubts about meanings of both sentence are correct - or maybe "bırakılmıştır" can be used here, and Turkish sentence has exactly the same meaning as English one? What do you think about it? Turkish translation is different. I would translate it like this:   Sözleşmenin bir parçası olan Debian Özgür Yazılım Yönergeleri (DFSG), başta uymayı kabul ettiğimiz tahaddütler olarak hazırlanmış, ardından Açık Kaynak Tanımı´nın temelleri olarak özgür yazılım topluluğunca benimsenmiştir.   tomac liked this message

Thread: E 2 T

2759.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Nov 2012 Wed 12:36 am   Quoting tomac My attempts as learner:   Allah aşkınızı uzun sürdürsün. - May Allah make your love last long. Allah aşkınızı uzatsın. - Literally (at least in my opinion ) : Let Allah prolong your love.   But please remember that these are only learner´s attempts - I recommend for you to wait for advanced learner or Turkish native speaker, so they may say if these translations sound natural at all.     Allah aşkınızı daim etsin.   Inscrutable , Scott88 and tomac liked this message

Thread: REPUBLIC

2760.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Nov 2012 Tue 01:01 pm   Quoting trip   Okay, no more arguments. America is an evil empire. It is the root of all of Turkey´s problems. Even if the Cold War and, hopefully, the era of Turkish coups are past. And even if the men who made the policies of those years are long gone. ... If blaming America makes you feel better, AlphaF, that is your choice. I myself prefer optimism and self-determination.   America is not different than other empires. Having so much power corrupt them. Isn´t America "New Rome" now?

Thread: Ottoman Poetry

2761.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Nov 2012 Tue 04:18 am Şeyhi:   “Bâtıl isteyü hakdan ayrıldım  Boynuz umdum kulaktan ayrıldım."  I wanted lies, I lost the truth I wanted a horn, I lost the ear.   Ahmet Paşa:   “Etme izhâr-ı hüner etmeğe mecliste heves Bülbüle dâm-ı belâ oldu lisânıyla kafes." Don´t desire showing a talent in a gathering Cage became a trap for nightingale because of its sweet tongue   “Tûtîyi güftârıdır iden giriftâr-ı kafes."  It is sparrow´s words makes it a captive of a cage.   Adli (Sultan II. Beyazıd) “Kendi kendine ettiğin âdem Bir yere gelse edemez âlem.. If everbody gathered and wanted to harm someone they wouldn´t harm him as much as he harmed himself   Selimi (Yavuz Sultan Selim) “Milletimde ayrılık ve tefrika endîşesi Kûşe-i kabrimde hattâ bî-karâr eyler beni.” The worry of seperation and disagreement in my nation (It) even would make me restless in the corner of my tomb   Fuzuli “Ger derse Fuzûlî ki güzellerde vefâ var Aldanma ki şâir sözü elbette yalandır." If Fuzuli says beautifuls have loyalty Don´t be deceived, the word of a poet is of course a lie.   Edited (11/6/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/6/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/6/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/6/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/6/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: T to E 1 Sentence translation/explanation please

2762.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Nov 2012 Tue 03:13 am   Quoting Umut_Umut     It is just an accent. If you dont speak İstanbul Turkish but an accent, using sormak is true. So in his accent, it is right.   Ne diyeyim o zaman? İyi soğurmalar

Thread: Turkish english very short please help :-)

2763.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Nov 2012 Tue 03:04 am   Quoting keçi .ölümu de paylaştığımız yasamda.Ortaklaşa bolusecegiz seninle......;-;.....   We will divide up among ourselves in this life which we share death.   Note 1: In this text it is not known what they divide up among themselves. (There is no object) Note 2: I am so fed up with these facebook aphorisms. I can kill myself at any moment. Where is my Xanax? Edited (11/6/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/6/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/6/2012) by gokuyum tomac liked this message

Thread: Mozart´s Turkish March (Rap version)

2764.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Nov 2012 Mon 07:26 pm                                       R.I.P                                Classical Music   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXV_OU2loWs

Thread: T to E 1 Sentence translation/explanation please

2765.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Nov 2012 Mon 07:11 pm   Quoting si++     The guy who wrote the red text above is so blind that he even cannot see an obvious sound change. I never heard someone said "soğurmak". Instead of it we say "emmek".   Deli Kiz liked this message

Thread: translation please

2766.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Nov 2012 Mon 11:30 am Şimdi ise sen varsın   Henry "ise" belongs to "şimdi" not to "sen" If you want to use "as for", you should say "as for now" Henry liked this message

Thread: T to E 1 Sentence translation/explanation please

2767.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Nov 2012 Mon 01:13 am   Quoting Deli Kiz     Why would you add "senin" at the beginning of this sentence? Is it merely for extra emphasis?   Yes. There is no need for it because there is a possesive suffix at the end of dudaklar-ın-ı. This possesive suffix can only adress "you" So there is no need to add "senin". basima and Deli Kiz liked this message

Thread: T to E 1 Sentence translation/explanation please

2768.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Nov 2012 Mon 01:08 am He doesn´t want to talk to them. He asks about them. English makes it confusing. insallah and Deli Kiz liked this message

Thread: T to E 1 Sentence translation/explanation please

2769.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Nov 2012 Mon 01:06 am 1)Dudaklarını sormak istiyorum In this sentence dudaklarını is a definite object(accusative). Sentence means I want to ask about your lips. 2)Dudaklarına sormak istiyorum In this sentence dudaklarına is indirecet object(dative). Sentence means I want to ask (to) your lips. You don´t use "to" here. But I put it there to explain better.   In English if you say "I want to ask your lips." I guess it can mean both of them. Right? Deli Kiz liked this message

Thread: T to E 1 Sentence translation/explanation please

2770.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Nov 2012 Mon 12:51 am   Quoting insallah     you talk to your nose ?   I respect nose a lot. It is in a higher position than lips and tongue. First I would ask the nose Lady_A and insallah liked this message

Thread: LINGUISTICS, LINGUISTİQUE, SPRACHWISSENSCHAFT

2771.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Nov 2012 Mon 12:48 am   Quoting ikicihan     Yes that is true for now if we think globally.   I realized that main communication language is changing from time to time and from geography to geography. the time here mostly exceeds the human lifetime, so dont worry   1 to 1.5 cencury ago, french was more common than english. it was replaced after WW2. in middle ages arabic and persian was more efficient.   today in north africa, french is more useful than english. today in central asia, russian is more useful than english.   We dont know if english language will continue to be a global language for the next century. Learning English is the second useful thing I have done in this life so far.

Thread: T to E 1 Sentence translation/explanation please

2772.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Nov 2012 Mon 12:43 am Don´t forget the nose

Thread: Culture: men and women

2773.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Nov 2012 Sun 09:42 pm   Quoting Nixy     Again, I sincerely apologise for what I wrote. It was inappropriate and impolite to bring up such a subject.     If this is the border of impoliteness, I write this message very far away from that border. It is like you are still in the USA but I am in the middle of Mexico Edited (11/4/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Culture: men and women

2774.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Nov 2012 Sun 09:31 pm Put me there please near you insallah Edited (11/4/2012) by gokuyum insallah liked this message

Thread: Culture: men and women

2775.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Nov 2012 Sun 09:28 pm   Quoting insallah     3- Those wishing to learn Turkish ??   I guess so

Thread: Culture: men and women

2776.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Nov 2012 Sun 07:44 pm   Quoting vineyards It seems as if we offended Nixie somehow and not the other way around but I don´t understand what went wrong. There are three general groups of Turkish Class users: 1- Those having a Turkish date. 2- Those using mostly the political discussion forum 3- Those wishing to learn Turkish only.   I belong to group two that´s why I jumped into this discussion. Which group am I in?   Edited (11/4/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: song title: what does it mean?

2777.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Nov 2012 Sun 04:26 pm   Quoting Abla     My Try:   There is a pain of mine which I won´t trade for a thousand cures.  Your translation is better

Thread: song title: what does it mean?

2778.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Nov 2012 Sun 04:25 pm   Quoting keçi  Bir Derdim Var Bin Dermana Degişmem     I have a trouble which I don´t exchange for 1000 cures.

Thread: Culture: men and women

2779.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Nov 2012 Sun 04:22 pm ? This is not an offensive thread. Don´t worry.

Thread: Turkish - English

2780.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Nov 2012 Sat 10:15 pm   Quoting Grena76 Yüz kızartıcı bir suç değildir hırsızlık; çalınan birinin kalbiyse eğer.    Thanks for translation. Stealing is not a disgraceful offence, if the stolen is one´s heart.   Grena76 liked this message

Thread: Turkish to English

2781.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Nov 2012 Sat 09:42 pm   Quoting Argon Many thanks for that. It makes much more sense now    Maybe it is because I translated it

Thread: Culture: men and women

2782.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Nov 2012 Sat 08:34 pm   Quoting Nixy     Of course, you must be sincere! I like when people speak their mind, that is one thing Swedes have problems with. We´re too diplomatic and afraid of conflict. How else can I learn unless you tell me your truth of how you see it? And yes, I already know that many people around the world think that all Swedish women has sex with anyone, which just isn´t true. They have sex with the man they want to, true. But not with anyone. And of course, there are Swedish women who will only have sex with the one they marry...   But what I mean is, from what I told you, is that typical for Turkish men to be so direct and so soon? Are they/you towards Turkish women too? Are Turkish women direct with how they feel about a man? And of course, we are generalising.   Love is one thing, of course, but nobody falls in love after just two sentences. As for the sex, you mean it´s really difficult to get a one-night-stand in Turkey, like the big cities like Istanbul or Ankara? We are all different. I am not direct. I can say I am shy. But other people can be very direct. It is not easy for everyone to have an one-night stand in Turkey. Men here don´t respect women who made sex before marriage. So women are very cautious.

Thread: Culture: men and women

2783.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Nov 2012 Sat 06:29 pm   Quoting ikicihan As a turkish, i can say that beware of turkish men.   There is two possibility here: 1. They are really kind and generous to foreign women with no bad intentions. This possibility is %5 or less. Not all of them same but hard to find them.     After these explanations I wonder if we are in this %5 or not? Men is men afterall Edited (11/3/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: T to E plz

2784.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Nov 2012 Sat 06:27 pm   Quoting lovelovevampire  Bizimki ise hayır der gibi kaşını kaldırdı.   Mine raised his eyebrow like s/he wanted to say no. Edited (11/3/2012) by gokuyum lovelovevampire liked this message

Thread: Culture: men and women

2785.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Nov 2012 Sat 05:50 pm Now as a Turkish man let me be sincere. Most Turkish men think foreign women is an easy prey. There are many factors behind this attention to foreign women: 1)Making love easily (they think so) 2)Money 3)Marriage and getting a citizenship 4) Love Edited (11/3/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/3/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Turkish to English

2786.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Nov 2012 Sat 03:24 pm   Quoting Argon Hi guys,   Can someone please translate the following for me? Thanks in advance.   Ben Izmirdeyim su an mutlaka goruselim, hatta isin yoksa bu aksam disari cikiyoruz sen de katil bize. 8 kasimda donucem ben London ve arkadasinin basimin usunde yeri var. Eger benden once goderse ben ona yedek anahtari verdiririm ben donmeden once de kalabilir evimde. Bana mail ya da telefonla ulasabilirsin cnm.   I am in İzmir now, we should certainly meet. If you don´t have anything to do, we are going out tonight and you can join us. I will come back at 8 November. London (?) and your friend are always welcome. If he/she goes before me, I can make someone give him/her the keys. And he/she can stay at my house untill I return. You can reach me by mail or phone dear.

Thread: REPUBLIC

2787.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Nov 2012 Sat 02:57 pm   Quoting trip   Give your own leaders more credit. They are smart. They are not going to let the West dictate to them -- unless they see some reason in it for their own nation. The chip must come off your shoulders, dostlar!   West can dictate anything if you come under it economically. Look at the situation of Greece. By the way let me tell you something. You mentioned coups made in Turkey before. And you implied now Turkey is getting more democratic because army can´t make a coup anymore. Nobody can make a coup in Turkey against a government which USA supports. This includes old coups too. USA has a bigger influence on Turkish politics than you think. The role of USA in the Turkish millitary coups must be searched throughly. But it doesn´t seem possible now. Edited (11/3/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/3/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/3/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/3/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/3/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/3/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: turkish to english

2788.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Nov 2012 Sat 02:34 pm   Quoting Abla     It depends on how you want to see the object (masaj dersleri). If it is governed by bitirmiş olacağım then you can see bitirmiş as a noun (or adjective) in that compound verb which as a wholeness takes accusative object. But if masaj dersleri is the object of bitirmiş then of course it it still a verb  -  nouns do not take objects. No idea really which interpretation is closer to the truth.       Great explanation. But don´t forget some nouns can take objects in Turkish. For example "bitirmiş" is an adjective verb. It can function as a noun but it can still take object.   Another example: Okumayı bilen adam.   "bilen" is an adjective verb here. And okumayı is the object.   I think there are adjective verbs in English too. For example: ongoing process You see ongoing is an adjective but it is also a verb.   I have a question here. Can adjective verbs take objects in English? I guess they can´t because of structural differences. What is your opinion?

Thread: turkish to english

2789.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Nov 2012 Sat 03:48 am   Quoting Henry     Can I get some clarification please  So -i bitirmiş olmak is a compound verb meaning to be through with, to be completed, tamamlamak gibi mi? bitirmiş olacağım = I will have completed and now my translation becomes ....... I will have taken and completed the massage lessons. Doğru mu? And this is also exactly how Abla translated it.    Your last translation is correct. I just made a joke because abla said you two had connected "alıp" to different members of the compound verb "bitirmiş olmak". I just mentioned you should have connected it to the whole verb. Of course this joke only makes sense in Turkish Note: By the way I think "bitirmiş" is noun in the compund verb. What do you say? Edited (11/3/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/3/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/3/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/3/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/3/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/3/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: english expats in mersin?

2790.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Nov 2012 Sat 12:41 am There is a Turkish course of Mersin University. If you go there maybe you can meet with some English speaking foreigners. http://tuam.mersin.edu.tr/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=70:tuam-tuerkce-kurslar&catid=1:son-haberler&Itemid=77 basima liked this message

Thread: turkish to english

2791.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Nov 2012 Sat 12:39 am , Edited (11/3/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: turkish to english

2792.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Nov 2012 Sat 12:17 am   Quoting Abla Interesting, Henry. You connected alıp to olacağım, I connected it to bitirmiş. This is what happens when two learners unite the drops of their wisdom.   Someone help.   You are both wrong. You should connect it to "bitirmiş olacağım" Henry liked this message

Thread: Turkish Folk Poetry

2793.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Nov 2012 Fri 07:09 pm Urfa Türküsü  Urfa Song   Urfa´nın etrafı dumanlı dağlar aman aman There are cloudy mountains around Urfa   İçerim yanıyor yar yar gözlerim ağlar My inside burns, my eyes cry.   Benim bu derdime bulunmaz derman aman aman For this trouble of mine can´t be found a cure.   Gezme ceylan bu dağlarda seni avlarlar Don´t wander around these mountains gazelle, they will hunt you   Anandan babandan yardan ayrı koyarlar They will seperate you from your mother and father   Urfa dağlarında gezer bir ceylan aman aman A gazelle wanders around Urfa mountains   Yavrusun yitirmiş yar yar ağlıyor yaman She lost her baby, she cries a lot Benim bu derdime bulunmaz derman aman aman A cure can´t be found for this trouble of mine Gezme ceylan bu dağlarda seni avlarlar Don´t wander around these mountains gazelle, they will hunt you Anandan babandan yardan ayrı koyarlar They will seperate you from your mother, your father and your beloved.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU8DvYbQXjs Edited (11/2/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/2/2012) by gokuyum Edited (2/4/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/6/2014) by gokuyum

Thread: Spelling questions

2794.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Nov 2012 Fri 06:55 pm "bi bakar mısın abicim?" So typical

Thread: Most touching Turkish movies

2795.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Nov 2012 Fri 06:46 pm This is my "most touching" topic I wanted it to be about movies. Here are the movies I find touching: 1) Ağır Roman 2) Duvara Karşı 3) Babam ve Oğlum 4) Gece, Melek ve Bizim Çocuklar 5) Eşkiya 6) Dedemin İnsanları 7) Canım Kardeşim   What do you think about my list. And what are your most touching Turkish movies? Edited (11/2/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/9/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/5/2012) by gokuyum Salma G., Henry, tomac and nifrtity liked this message

Thread: English translation pelize

2796.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Nov 2012 Fri 06:35 pm In this text, it is told that channels shouldn´t end TV series quickly. Tv series Sultan´s performance was not that bad and writer criticises Channel D´s decision. He/she says instead of ending it, channel should have found a way to increase the rating of the series. Edited (11/2/2012) by gokuyum Abla liked this message

Thread: English translation pelize

2797.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Nov 2012 Fri 06:29 pm   Quoting Abla I have translated many of these. Interestingly, they are quite complicated, especially for someone who is not perfect in English.   Please skip this one, I really don´t want to run naked

Thread: English translation pelize

2798.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Nov 2012 Fri 06:25 pm   Quoting Abla I don´t believe that. You are just talking, gokuyum. If I was serious, would you translate it? I am sure many would.

Thread: Turkish Folk Poetry

2799.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Nov 2012 Fri 06:23 pm   Quoting og2009     Is there linguistics student or graduate friend here in the Turkish Language Class Site?   Og is there a problem with your browser? You first send an empty message than you quote this message and then you send your message. If there is a problem, you should try using another web browser. og2009 liked this message

Thread: English translation pelize

2800.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Nov 2012 Fri 06:18 pm   Quoting amera Kanalın sahip çıkması, desteklemesi durumunda dizilerin işinin daha kolay olacağını anlattım. Yazıyı yazdığım akşam Kanal D´de ´Sultan´ dizisinin son bölümü yayınlandı. Nurgül Yeşilçay, Şahin Irmak, Merve Altınkaya ve Nur Süer´in oynadığı dizi bir türlü kanal yönetimini mutlu edemedi. Dizi, Diyarbakır´da başladı, sonra İstanbul´a taşındı. İddiaya göre izleyici senaryodaki değişikliğe adapte olamadı ve dizi yayından kaldırıldı. Yayından kaldırıldığı son bölüm, reyting sıralamasında bulunan 100 program arasında kaçıncı oldu biliyor musunuz? ´AB´ sıralamasında 4´üncü! Yazıktır, günahtır... Madem bu dizi reytinglerde 4´üncü olabiliyor neden harcıyorsunuz? Bu diziyi, neden yayından kaldırmaya karar veriyorsunuz da omuz verip reytingini iyileştirme şıkkını seçmiyorsunuz. Onun yerine koyacağınız dizinin daha yüksek reyting garantisi mi var? Yazık değil mi kaldırdığınız diziden ekmek yiyen onca insanın emeğine? Bu sorular böyle uzayıp gider. Ama neye yarar? Ben buradan ne yazarsam yazayım, sektörde bu işler böyle sürüp gider... Magazin 2´nci Sayfa´dan takip ediliyor Dün Kanaltürk´te Müge Dağıstanlı ile Gülşen Yüksel´in konuğuydum. Ekranların en çok izlenen sabah magazin programı... İki deneyimli magazin müdürü hem beni hem de diğer konuk Esin Moralıoğlu´nu soru yağmuruna tuttu. Programdan sonra o kadar çok telefon aldım ki anlatamam... Bu da şunu gösteriyor; magazin gündemi 2´nci Sayfa´dan takip ediliyor. Ve Gülşen ile Müge´nin isimleri, emekleriyle orantılı olarak her yıl biraz daha büyüyor.   If somebody translates this long magazine news, I will run naked in the streets.

Thread: TR to ENG

2801.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Nov 2012 Fri 01:27 pm   Quoting Nixy "Ateşten güvercindir sevgilim, dolaşır yeryüzünü, sarar beni. Ama sardıklarını değil, görmesini bilenleri sürükler ardından."   From Kafka, I think. It´s for a friend who wants to know. Severa suggestions are welcome. My beloved is a pigeon made of fire, it wanders around the world, and embraces me. But it only trails the ones who know how to see not the ones who it embraces.   Edited (11/2/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/2/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Yeraltı

2802.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Nov 2012 Fri 01:18 pm Yeraltı (Underground)   Özet & detaylar Karanlık filmlerin yönetmeni Zeki Demirkubuz, ünlü Rus yazar Dostoyevsky´nin Yeraltından Notlar adlı klasik yapıtından esinlenerek kurguladığı son filmini Ankara´da çekti. Başrolde televizyon komedilerinden sonra sinemada dramatik karakterlere geçiş yapan Engin Günaydın´ı seyrettiğimiz film bu sezonun öne çıkan yerli yapımları arasında yer alıyor. Nefret ettiği eski arkadaşlarının akşam yemeğine kendisini zorla davet ettiren Muharrem´in, bu yemek ile birlikte başlayan didişmeleri, ego gösterileri sonucu eski defterlerin açılması ile utanç dolu hesaplaşmalarla karşı karşıya kalmasını konu alan Yeraltı, bireyin varoluşsal sorunlarını irdeleyen bir film. (Beyazperde sitesinden alıntı )   Summary & details The director of dark movies Zeki Demirkubuz, shot his last movie which was edited  inspirired by famous Russian author Dostoyevski´s "Notes From Underground" in Ankara. The movie in which we watch Engin Günaydın ( who now plays dramatic characters after the comedies in TV)  as the leading character, takes its place beside the local productions which come forward this season. Yeraltı is a movie which research the ontological problems of individual; it tells the Muharrems´s ( who made himself invited to a lunch forcing his friends who he hates) confrontation with the shameful old accounts after the opening of old books because of ego shows, bickerings which had started with this dinner. (quoted from beyazperde website)   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iabAKsxqBW0   Note. Does my translation make sense in English? It was a difficult translation for me Edited (11/2/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/2/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/2/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/2/2012) by gokuyum Edited (11/2/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: The Most touching turkish song you've ever heard is...?

2803.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Nov 2012 Fri 12:26 pm   Quoting Abla I change my mind every day but there is one song that stays: Beddua of Arif Susam. Very touching words about calamitous jealousy. Many singers have this song in their repertoire but I listen to Gürkan only. His voice is sensitive and dramatic at the same time.   This video is worth watching also. The man is burning. His white shirt gives me agony.                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMPG898_wEA       It is too much arabesque for my taste. But it is still good. Edited (11/2/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: The Most touching turkish song you've ever heard is...?

2804.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Nov 2012 Thu 08:45 pm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGsPiXTpyMY AĞLA SEVDAM CRY MY LOVE ağla sevdam, ağla Cry my love, cry ağla, zorba bu dünya Cry, this world is cruel. ağla, susma ağla Cry, don´t be quiet ağla, ağla Cry, cry kördüğüm çember dört duvar These four walls are a gordion knot like circle can evinde bıkar, can uçar Soul sickens in its home and it flies boş kalır o hanlar, saraylar Those ins and palaces remain empty. beni sen al You take me. yeminim var I have an oath kül oldum, söndüm I have become ash, I have died down ateşine sar Wrap me to your fire sar, al beni sana sar Wrap me, take me and wrap me to you sar, sar Wrap me, wrap me. bana sensin yar You are my beloved. habersiz kuşlar geçer Birds fly unaware geceler zehir zıkkım Nights are like poison gözlerimi sel basmış It flooded my eyes yağmurlar ardındayım I am behind the rains aşığım, ben sana çok aşığım I am in love, I love you a lot yola çık, yollardayım Hit the road, I am in the roads. alameda and nifrtity liked this message

Thread: clock times

2805.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Nov 2012 Thu 08:18 pm   Quoting Johnk I need some help with clock times as follows If you are saying to someone we will meet at one/two/three etc how do you sat "at" Some i know already but can anyone check or help me with the rest please? birde ikide ucte dortte beste altida yedide sekizde dokuzda onda on birde on ikide

Thread: Beginners question about \"anlamak\"

2806.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Oct 2012 Wed 06:02 pm   Quoting Nixy Why is "I don´t understand" translated as "anlamadım" and not "anlamıyorum"? I thought "anlamadım" would be the past tense? Please explain, because this phrase is the first thing I should learn as a beginner. "I don´t understand" means "Anlamıyorum". But we generally prefer to say "I didn´t understand" Anlamadım.   basima liked this message

Thread: Sultan Suleiman

2807.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Oct 2012 Wed 05:57 pm   Quoting ogrenci3000 I watch the very interestinf TV serial about Sultan Suleiman. I have heard people calling him something like "imkarim". At the subtitles it says "your excellency". I looked it up in the dictionary but I didn´t find the correct word. Could anyone spell it well for me? Thanks       Look here. http://www.sozluk.net/index.php?word=h%C3%BCnkar Edited (10/31/2012) by gokuyum eniser liked this message

Thread: A Turkish Mother?

2808.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Oct 2012 Wed 02:38 pm   Quoting stumpy Oh my goodness, I can see Si++ with a codebar hand scaner and scanning everyone, what will happen to those of us who do not scan positive?    Don´t worry. Don´t you know everybody is Turkish at the end? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Language_Theory

Thread: E to T plz

2809.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Oct 2012 Wed 12:44 am   Quoting gokuyum     Birlikteyken beni daha mutlu, daha komik ve daha iyi yapıyorsun. More detailed explanation:   You see the predicate is yapıyor-sun. It has this  personal ending "-sun" for the second person singular. So it means it is "you" who does the action. So you is the subject. Now lets find the object. It is ben-i. It is definite object because it ends with -i. So object is me. Now birlikteyken means "when together" There is no reference to any person. But I know that subject is you and object is me. So you + me = we. Now I know that only reasonable explanation is "birlikteyken" adresses "we".   eniser, HaNNo and Henry liked this message

Thread: E to T plz

2810.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Oct 2012 Wed 12:33 am   Quoting HaNNo     ok to make it clear Birlikte-y-ken means when we are together? i can´t see anything referring to "we / us".... so how could i say when they are together? Good point. I know it with my exprience of speaking Turkish all my life If you want to say when they are together: 1)onlar birlikteyken 2)onlar birliktelerken 3)birliktelerken   You can say any one of these.   HaNNo liked this message

Thread: REPUBLIC

2811.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Oct 2012 Wed 12:28 am   Quoting trip I am very interested in your answers.       We are so advanced now we even don´t need democracy anymore Edited (10/31/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/31/2012) by gokuyum thehandsom liked this message

Thread: E to T plz

2812.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Oct 2012 Wed 12:17 am   Quoting HaNNo you make me happier, funnier, better when we are together   Thanks in advance.   Birlikteyken beni daha mutlu, daha komik ve daha iyi yapıyorsun.

Thread: Misspelling?

2813.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Oct 2012 Tue 07:58 pm   Quoting Abla     Yes I can see it now. What is confusing here is that the pronoun could be dropped even though it had a job to do (to carry the genetive marking).   Yes but possesive suffix is still there.

Thread: script for TV show Yabanci Damat

2814.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Oct 2012 Tue 07:54 pm   Quoting ShiraD Yabanci Damatta  sağırlar icin var mi bir şey okumak için acaba?  Ben 5inci bölğümü seyretiyorum ve zor bana.   Is there any script or Hard of Hearing tool available to read for Yabanci Damat?  I am watching the 5th episode and it is difficult to hear everything.   Sagolun, Many thanks, Shira   There are no subtitles for this show.

Thread: translation please

2815.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Oct 2012 Tue 07:50 pm   Quoting Henry     my attempt People that I don´t know are making friendship requests to me   It is past tense henry. Use "made" Henry liked this message

Thread: translation please

2816.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Oct 2012 Tue 12:35 am   Quoting misspinup ben düşünmüyorum kendimi puroklamladım.   hafıza durdu benim birşey düşünmüyorum.   puroklamlamak? Somebody has just killed Turkish. Help!   Translation: I can´t think. I programmed myself. My memory stopped, I can´t think anything. Edited (10/30/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/30/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Ottoman Poetry

2817.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Oct 2012 Tue 12:06 am   Quoting Abla Yavuz is my favourite.   Yes, he is great.

Thread: Ottoman Poetry

2818.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Oct 2012 Mon 11:53 pm Some Chosen Couplets From Ottoman Poetry   Aşk imiş her ne vâr âlemde İlm bir kîl ü kâl imiş ancak   Everything exist in universe is love Wisdom is only a tittle-tattle.   Fuzûlî     Her kişi âşık olurdu eğer âsân olsa If it was easy, everybody would fall in love.                         Taşlıcalı Yahya Bey     Lisân-ı aşkı bilir terceman bulunmadı hiç The translator who knows the language of love has never been found.                          Neccar Zade Şeyh Rıza     Baharı neyleriz ol gülizâr-ı gonce femin Gülüb açılması bin nevbahâra değmez mi?   What is the use of spring? Isn’t the laughing and opening of that rose garden’s bud like mouth worth of thousand springs?                                          Nâilî’i Kadîm   Bir az gel bağa, bülbül dinle, gül seyret, açıl cânâ Ki sen dâhî henüz âçılmamış bir gonce-i tersin   Come to garden, listen to nightingales, watch the roses, open o heart You are just a young bud who is not open yet.                                                         Nedim      Bir elinde gül, bir elde câm geldin sâkiyâ Kangısın alsam gülü, yâ câmı, yahud ki seni O cupbearer! You came with a rose in one hand, with a cup in another hand. Which one should I take? Rose, cup or you?                                                      Nedim     Meyhâne yıkıldı, mest ayakda Tavern is wrecked, drunks are still on foot.                                Abdülhak Hâmid   Menden ey Fuzuli isteme eşarı medh ü zem Men âşıkam, hemişe sözüm âşıkânedir   O Fuzuli! Don’t want from me poems of praise and condemnation I am a lover, every word of mine is amotary                                            Fuzûlî       Şirler pençe-i Kahrımdan olurken lerzân Beni bir gözleri âhûya zebûn itdi felek When the lions were trembling with the fear of my wrath´s claw Fate has made me prey of a gazelle eyed beautiful                                Yavuz Sultan Selim       Görmemek yeğdir, görüb divâne olmakdan seni It is better not to see you than seeing and being crazy for you.                                                       Sâbit                                                Biz âleme bir yâr içün âh itmeğe geldik We came to this world only to sigh for a beloved.                                   Yenişehirli Avni   Edited (10/29/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/30/2012) by gokuyum lana- liked this message

Thread: -si?

2819.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Oct 2012 Mon 01:35 pm   Quoting Abla     Don´t you use this gesture:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJkcZwW4gmo  ?     No

Thread: Turkish Folk Poetry

2820.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Oct 2012 Mon 11:19 am   Quoting og2009 Tercüme için çok teşekkür ederim. Yunus Emre´nin şiirinde, "İlim ilim bilmektir" diye başlıyan dörtlükte, ilim sözcüğünün tercümesinde, "wisdom" yerine "science" diyebilir miyiz? Yoksa "wisdom" akıl, bilgelik ve irfan karşılığı olarak uygun bir çeviri midir? Science diyemeyiz çünkü burada ilimle kastedilen şey senin dediğin gibi bilgelik ve irfan. Dinbilimleri de kastedilmiş olabilir çünkü okumaktan bahsediliyor.

Thread: Cumhuriyet Bayrami Kutlu Olsun.

2821.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Oct 2012 Mon 11:10 am miss007 and tunci liked this message

Thread: Correction needed

2822.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Oct 2012 Mon 11:08 am   Quoting deli    the heading says correct please ,but do you want it translated? My darling sweetheart, you came into my life, I was so happy with you.I enjoyed every moment, it was like a dream those moments were the most beautiful moments of my life. You melted my cold heart, I felt the warmth of love again. I had never been this happy for a long time. But then you left my life ,everything ended,  I became sad, but what can I do? I accept it , despite the crying of my heart, I can never forget you, I can never find anyone like you. You are very special to me, the memories will always remain hidden in my heart .  I love you so much     Excellent translation. Sinan80 liked this message

Thread: very important translation turkish-english

2823.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Oct 2012 Sun 11:58 pm   Quoting keçi thank you very much so what would you say the overall message is?     There is no message. Text doesn´t say anything clearly. But I guess he loves you And the thing I wonder is why he writes such a long text for someone who doesn´t know Turkish. Edited (10/29/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: very important translation turkish-english

2824.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Oct 2012 Sun 08:36 pm   Quoting keçi can anyone hep with this very improtatn translation please   thank you in advance:   SANA...Soguk bu Sabah biraz usudum,ve seni dusundum,kendimi ve sana yazdim..:Sevgili CHRISTINA.Ben hayatin cesaretini ve umudunu hic bir zaman kirmamisimdir,hic bir tasin yerine oturmadigi ve insani .Cok az seyin tatmin ettigi zamanlar hic te kolay degildir.Butun iyi niyetlerine rahmen,s´en kendini o kadar da cok sevmezken Ben seni senden cok sevdim.Bazen insanin ruh hali ve icinde yasadigimiz dunyanin meysimlerin hava durumuna benzetiyorum.GERCEKTIR Sadece diliyerek onu deyistirebilmenin mumkun,olmadigini biliyorum.Eger karanlik ve yagmurluysa.Gercekten karanlik ve yagmurludur yonlendiremezsin.AMA bir gun gunesli olacak.Gunesin ne zaman yeniden cikacagi kimsenin kontrolunde deyil.Fakat bir gun cikacak bir gun.Duygularimizda tipki hava durumu gibidir.Yanlis olan bir illuzyon olduklarina inanmak.Tersine gercekler ,depresion,endise,kayitsizlik,en az yasam kadar gercek ve benzer sekilde kimsenin kontrolunde deyildir.AMA Gercekler gercekten kabullendigimiz gibi yasama karsi hisettiklerimizide Kabul etmemiz gerekiyor.Aslinda ,bu gun rezil bir gun demek son derece gercekci bir yaklasim olabilir,bazen tek yapmamiz gereken sisli bulutlu ve yagmurlu gunlerde zihinsel bir semsiye acabilmektir.Icime. Yagmur yagiyor bu gun bu benim hatam deyil,ve yapacak bir seyde yok.Bekliyecegim ama yarin gunes  acabilir ve Ben sonuna kadar tadini cikaracagim.Umut ile, Sevgi ile Ask ile(sevgilerimle    This is a text written with a very literary style. It tells many things but actually it says nothing. There are many grammar mistakes. In one sentence he says he thinks you, in another he says he loved you more than you loved yourself. I guess these are the only meaningful sentences in the text. Aren´t they enough? Edited (10/28/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/28/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/28/2012) by gokuyum caliptrix liked this message

Thread: En to Tr please

2825.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Oct 2012 Sun 08:30 pm   Quoting Lady_A   The last sentence was translated as "People want to be happy" but the correct translation was "I want people to be happy", right?      Yes You see how romantic I am. Lady_A liked this message

Thread: En to Tr please

2826.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Oct 2012 Sun 08:25 pm   Quoting Lady_A     Well, when the punctuation is right and when the phrase is not too long, it gives you a (correct) idea. But still, it´s not to be trusted   It really sucks. I pasted my comment and translation was completely gibberish except the last sentence. But it was wrong too Edited (10/28/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: En to Tr please

2827.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Oct 2012 Sun 08:20 pm   Quoting Lady_A     Well google translate sometimes does make sense I can sense the irony but still thank you for your thoughts. It´s just that I think I´ve missed the happiness train   I am really sincere. I wouldn´t translate them if I wasn´t. By the way thank God at last Google turkish translate helped someone

Thread: En to Tr please

2828.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Oct 2012 Sun 08:15 pm   Quoting Lady_A     Well, you translators help us be happy (or not) sometimes And we all thank you for that. Oh you understand Turkish I really want you(plural) to be happy. I am a romantic person   Edited (10/28/2012) by gokuyum Lady_A liked this message

Thread: En to Tr please

2829.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Oct 2012 Sun 08:08 pm   Quoting Teach-er Ya burda ne aşk hikayelerine şahitlik yapmışızdır arkadaş. Bir biz yaşayamadık şu aşkları. Bizi seven biri de çıkar elbet    Sen daha yenisin. Ben aşk mektupları çevirileri yapmakla sakallarımı ağırttım burada Yapmasam vicdan yapıyorum bir de. İnsanlar mutlu olsun istiyorum

Thread: En to Tr please

2830.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Oct 2012 Sun 07:59 pm   Quoting Lady_A Thank you again!!   I made some corrections. Look again.

Thread: En to Tr please

2831.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Oct 2012 Sun 07:55 pm   Quoting Lady_A I feel awful, but why do you care? You never wanted to know how close you are to me, you never wanted to deal with that and you were always cold and distant. Now don´t pretend we are close. Feeling you close to me is my dream of the last five years that never came true. If I have upset you, I am sorry for my rudeness.   and   I am glad you went to see your family after all.   Thank you!! Çok kötü hissediyorum, umurunda mı? Hiçbir zaman bana ne kadar yakın olduğunu bilmek istemedin. Hiçbir zaman bununla uğraşmak istemedin, herzaman soğuk ve mesafeliydin. Şimdi yakınmışız gibi davranma. Senin bana yakın olduğunu hissetmek beş yıldır gerçekleşmeyen hayalimdi. Seni üzdüysem, kabalığım için özür dilerim.   ve   En sonunda aileni görmeye gitmene sevindim.   Edited (10/28/2012) by gokuyum Lady_A liked this message

Thread: Turkish slangs

2832.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Oct 2012 Sun 07:50 pm By the way I hate those people who uses x,w,q when they write in Turkish.

Thread: Turkish slangs

2833.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Oct 2012 Sun 07:46 pm   Quoting Liz26 hey   I have been talking to Turks for a few months after I came from Turkey, and I´d like to understand all the slangs they use. Maybe a native Turk could write here some slangs and translations to them? And I also would like to get a translation to the saying "eyw". Teşekkürler   I guess "eyw" is eyvallah. It means good-bye.

Thread: Tr to En please

2834.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Oct 2012 Sun 07:37 pm   Quoting Lady_A     May I ask two things? 1. "doing alterations" (?) meaning...changes, like house changes, fixing things, etc? yes 2. what form of the verb is yapıyon ?? yapıyorsun       Lady_A liked this message

Thread: Tr to En please

2835.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Oct 2012 Sun 07:26 pm Don´t trust us easily!                       Turkish Men   Lady_A liked this message

Thread: i am wondering

2836.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Oct 2012 Sun 07:19 pm I think they mocked them this way because it must be very weird for a man to not to grow a mustache in those times.

Thread: i am wondering

2837.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Oct 2012 Sun 07:05 pm kökeni şudur: eskiden her erkek vatandaş cebinde ayna ve tarak taşırmış, bıyığını tarayıp düzgün tutmak için. polislerin bıyık bırakması yasak olduğundan bu aksesuarları taşımazlarmış. (ekşi sözlük)   The origin of the word: In the old times every man carried a comb and mirror in his pocket in order to comb and keep his moustache tidy But it was forbidden for police oficers to grow a moustache so they didn´t carry these accessories.   So that is why people called them "aynasız(without a mirror)" Edited (10/28/2012) by gokuyum Sinan80, Henry, Lady_A and Abla liked this message

Thread: Turkish Folk Poetry

2838.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Oct 2012 Sun 06:50 pm   Quoting og2009     Tercümesini zor bulduğum birkaç halk şiiri demeti: YUNUS EMRE’ DEN İKİ DÖRTLÜK “İlim ilim bilmektir Wisdom is to know wisdom İlim kendin bilmektir Wisdom is to know yourself Sen kendini bilmezsin If you don´t know yourself Ya nice okumaktır What kind of studying is this? Dört kitabın mânâsı Meaning of the four books Bellidir bir elifte It is obvious in an alif Sen elifi bilmezsin If you don´t know alif Bu nice okumaktır” What kind of studying is this? YUNUS EMRE’ DEN BİR DÖRTLÜK “Söz var keser savaşı There is word cuts the war Söz var, götürür başı There is word takes your head away. Söz var, ağılı aşı There is word (makes) the poisonous meal Bal ile yağ ede bir söz “ Honey and butter, a word. AŞIK VEYSEL’DEN İKİ MISRA “Koyun kurt ile gezerdi Sheep would walk around with wolf Fikir başka başka olmasa” If the thoughts were not different. “Güzelliğin on para etmez Your beauty wouldn´t make 10 cents Şu bendeki aşk olmasa” If there wasn´t this love in me. KUL HİMMET’TEN BİR DÖRTLÜK “Bozuk şu dünyanın temeli bozuk, Foundation of this world is rotten Tükendi daneler kalmadı azık Seeds ran out, no food remained Yazıktır şu geçen ömre yazık Pity to this passing life, pity Bir dost bulamadım gün alşam oldu” I couldn´t find a friend, day turned to evening.     Edited (10/28/2012) by gokuyum og2009 liked this message

Thread: Turkish Folk Poetry

2839.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Oct 2012 Sun 04:02 pm Here is a link for you Abla http://www.edebiyatfakultesi.com/halk_genel_bilgi.htm

Thread: Turkish Folk Poetry

2840.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Oct 2012 Sun 03:39 pm   Quoting Abla I wonder why you call it folk poetry even if the author is known. I got used to thinking about folk poetry as an oral tradition. Are you talking about folk poetry as an opposite to Ottoman poetry, gokuyum?     We call it "Türk Halk Şiiri" And it includes anonymous poems too. It has its own forms and measures. They are different than Ottoman poetry.   Edited (10/28/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Turkish Folk Poetry

2841.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Oct 2012 Sun 01:07 am This poem is a little bit obscene. Beware ! DEDİM DEDİ  I SAID, SHE SAID Sabahtan uğradım ben bir fidana I went to visit a sapling this morning Dedim mahmur musun, dedi ki yoh yoh. I said "Are you sleepy?" She said "No, no!" Ak elleri boğum boğum kınalı Her white hands were knotty and hennaed Dedim bayram mıdır, dedi ki yoh yoh. I said "Is it festival?" She said "No,no!" Dedim inci nedir, dedi dişimdir I said "What is a pearl?" She said "My tooth" Dedim kalem nedir, dedi kaşımdır I said "What is a pencil?" She said "My eyebrow." Dedim on beş nedir, dedi yaşımdır I said "What is fifteen?" She said "My age" Dedim daha var mı, dedi ki yoh yoh. I said "Is it more?" She said "No, no!" Dedim ölüm vardır, dedi aynımda I said "There is death" She said "In my eyes" Dedim zulüm vardır, dedi boynumda I said "There is cruelty" She said "On my neck" Dedim ak sineler, dedi koynumda I said "White breasts" She said "On my chest" Dedim sevebilsem, dedi ki yoh yoh. I said "Can I love?" She said "No,no!" Dedim Erzurum nendir, dedi ilimdir I said "What is Erzurum?" She said "My city" Dedim gider misin, dedi yolumdur I said "Do you go?" She said "It is my way" Dedim Emrah nendir, dedi kulumdur I said "Who is Emrah?" She said "My slave" Dedim satar mısın, dedi ki yoh yoh. I said "Would you sell him?" She said "No,no!" Erzurumlu Emrah (1775-1854)   Edited (10/28/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/28/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/28/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Turkish Folk Poetry

2842.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Oct 2012 Sun 12:33 am El Çek Tabib El Çek Yaram Üstünden Get your hand away from my wound, doctor! El çek tabib el çek yaram üstünden  Get your hand away from my wound, doctor! Sen benim derdime deva bilmezsin  You don´t know the cure of my pain Sen nasıl tabibsin yoktur ilacın What kind of a doctor are you? You don´t have medicine. Yaram yürektedir sarabilmezsin My wound is on my heart, you can´t bandage it. Sana derim sana ey kalbi hayın I say you, o false-hearted! Kimseler çekmesin feleğin yayın  May nobody pull the string of fate´s bow Yıkıp harab ettin gönül sarayın You demolished and destroyed the palace of heart. Alıp bir taşını koyabilmezsin You can´t take and put back even one stone of it. Emrah´ım dinledin benim sözlerim I am Emrah, you listened to my words. Muhabettin can evimde gizlerim I hide your love in home of my heart Ne duruyon ağlasana gözlerim Why do you stop, cry my eyes. Bir daha yarini görebilmezsin You can´t see the beloved one more time.   Erzurumlu Emrah (1775-1854)

Thread: What´s her name?

2843.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Oct 2012 Sat 11:45 pm , Edited (10/28/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: What´s her name?

2844.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Oct 2012 Sat 11:44 pm   Quoting Scott88 I think she is Selma Altın, but I´m not sure Her vocal performance is amazing....I hope someone will tell me her name soon.   She is Selma Altın.

Thread: Turkish slangs

2845.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Oct 2012 Sat 11:31 pm Here is a slang dictionary: http://www.idefix.com/kitap/turkcenin-buyuk-argo-sozlugu-taniklariyla-hulki-aktunc/tanim.asp?sid=FJW8EFLT0T3NTVDB2CDF

Thread: Turkish slangs

2846.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Oct 2012 Sat 11:30 pm   Quoting Abla What is Turkish slang actually based on? Street talk of Istanbul?   The "slang dictionary" I mentioned seems to be written by teenagers. Even many standard language words are considered slang if they have to do with certain body parts. The author does not know what slang is  -  but there are some pearls there.   Every region has its slang exspressions. But many people from different regions of Turkey live in İstanbul. So Istanbul street talk can be very enlightining.

Thread: Turkish Rock Music

2847.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Oct 2012 Sat 11:22 pm I am getting old. I start to love Turkish folk music more than rock music

Thread: Turkish slangs

2848.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Oct 2012 Sat 11:18 pm   Quoting Abla Look here, but they are not very beautiful:   http://www.learningpracticalturkish.com/off-color-turkish-slang-dictionary.html   It is not easy to master Turkish slang. It is so vast even I can easily lose myself in it

Thread: Haydi Abbas

2849.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Oct 2012 Thu 10:33 pm Melancholy again. Very famous poem and song.   Haydi Abbas Come on Abbas Haydi Abbas, vakit tamam; Come on Abbas, it is the time. Akşam diyordun işte oldu akşam. You were saying “wait untill the evening” It is now.. Kur bakalım çilingir soframizı; Set our rakı table Dinsin artık bu kalp ağrısı. And let this heartache cease now. Şu ağacın gölgesinde olsun; Set it under the shadow of this tree. Tam kenarında havuzun. Exactly beside the pool. Aya haber sal çıksın bu gece; Send a message to the moon, let it appear tonight. Görünsün şöyle gönlümce. Let it appear as I wish Bas kırbacı sihirli seccadeye, Whip the flying carpet Göster hükmettiğini mesafeye Show how you rule the distance Ve zamana.And time Katıp tozu dumana, Raising a cloud of dust Var git, Go Böyle ferman etti Cahit, Thus commanded Cahit Al getir ilk sevgiliyi Beşiktaş´tan; Take and bring first beloved from Beşiktaş Yaşamak istiyorum gençliğimi baştan. I want to live my youth since the beginning.   Cahit Sıtkı Tarancı   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs_8d-wbXvc   Edited (10/25/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: quiz 2

2850.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Oct 2012 Thu 06:54 pm   Quoting Teach-er yav arkadaş. bayram bayram ne quizi bu ne sınavı. bırakın millet bayram etsin..   Bayram quizi Abla liked this message

Thread: quiz 2

2851.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Oct 2012 Thu 05:41 pm   Quoting ode616 Merhaba! You´ve done a great job! Thanks a lot! Still I can´t get the meaning of "Başüstüne". Any help ? I´ll be grateful. Thanks in advance   Başüstüne means "I will certainly do what you want" ode616 liked this message

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

2852.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Oct 2012 Thu 05:40 pm   Quoting Abla     You can´t imagine how many times Turks have asked me this. I am surprised how well Turkish people know the specialities of their own language. Finns generally do not bother their heads with such things.   I am not a specialist but because you ask I answer: no.   The most important reason for me to think this way is  -  as you suggested, gokuyum  -  lack of common basic vocabulary. I think the syntactic similarities between Finnish and Turkish are language universals which to some extent show in all agglutinative languages. They are amazing enough though. No wonder the tools used in language planning are also very much the same (that is why kuyruklu yıldiz = pyrstö|tähti).   And anyway, if there are common roots they are so deep in the ground they have no practical meaning. I am not learning Turkish easily (if that is what you think).   I am not capable of analysing my own language learning but I get an idea when I listen to my Turkish teacher Hatice hanım who speaks excellent Finnish. I analyse her speech constantly: I know why she has difficulty pronouncing our diphtongs, I know why she uses certain pronouns in a peculiar way... But one thing especially has attracted my attention: she is not afraid of long words which other learners of Finnish always complain about, she jumps into the system of word inflection just like she has always been there. That is because she has.   Do you have a Turkish teacher in Finland?

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

2853.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Oct 2012 Thu 03:57 pm Do you think Finnish and Turkish are from same language family? Ural-Altaic? Are there common words?

Thread: Kurban bayarm Kutlu olsun

2854.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Oct 2012 Thu 03:52 pm Henry, nifrtity, harp00n and Abla liked this message

Thread: quiz 2

2855.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Oct 2012 Thu 02:15 pm   Quoting tunci     In Ekşi Sözlük, that person who comments find that phrase funny.  May be it is because he mixes the ´heads´ . I won´t do any further comment.   Lol.

Thread: Kurban bayarm Kutlu olsun

2856.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Oct 2012 Thu 02:03 pm   Quoting sakine     Can you please translate this to English? It looks so cute   In the banners with black font it is wrtten: May God bless everyone´s "Feast of Sacrafice" In the banners with red font it is written: By the way an important note: It is more preferable to cut small animals. (In the eyes of God)   Under the picture it is written: -Bro, will it work this time? -I hope so, if not, our children will carry these banners in the next Sacrafice Feast.   Henry and sakine liked this message

Thread: Kurban bayarm Kutlu olsun

2857.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Oct 2012 Thu 12:13 pm Henry, Salma G., nifrtity, rumeysa and tunci liked this message

Thread: T to e short

2858.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Oct 2012 Wed 08:08 pm   Quoting tristerecuerdos Thank you how can i say "I prepared for Eid, I hope you prepared too. And i hope you spend a lot of time of love and joy with your family, god bless you" thanks in advancee Bayram için hazırlık yaptım, umarım sen de yapmışsındır. Umarım ailenle sevgi ve neşe dolu bir zaman geçirirsin, tanrı seni kutsasın.

Thread: t-e

2859.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Oct 2012 Wed 08:03 pm   Quoting lebu 1)ben ilişkiye önce senle girmek istiyorum I want to make love with you first.   2)senin gibi fantezimlerim prensesi olan biriyle her anı değerlendirmek isterim, tabi seninde istediğin şekilde I want to put every moment to good use with the princess of my fantasies, of course as you wish.     Teşekkür ederim   Hmm...

Thread: Ottoman Poetry

2860.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Oct 2012 Wed 02:53 pm   Quoting tunci   Great interpratations of the prominent examples of Ottoman Poetry, Gökuyum. I haven´t come across English translations of  those poems before, thank you for your efforts and this academic level work of yours that requires not only Farsi,Arabic knowledge but also knowledge of Sufistic way of thinking. Eline, kalemine sağlık Ustad.   Thank you tunci. My purpose is to introduce Ottoman poetry to foreigners and to show them how humanist and how deep it is. And if they have some prejudgements about us, I want to break them. And you are also doing great work explaining grammer issues with so much details. It requires a lot of patience which I don´t have. It really amazes me. Take care.   Edited (10/24/2012) by gokuyum tunci liked this message

Thread: Ottoman Poetry

2861.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Oct 2012 Wed 02:42 pm   Quoting Abla Quote:gokuyum Yok bende bir amel sana şayeste ah eğer I don´t have any deed worthy of you  A´malime göre vere adlin ceza bana Pity if your justice give a punishment according to my deeds.   Havf ü hatada muztaribim var ümid kim I am troubled with fear of my sins, but I have hope Lutfun vere beşaret-i afv-i ata bana May your grace give me the good news of your forgiving   What a central concept mercy is in Islam.   The lot of the believer is always to live between hope and fear. Umar ibn al-Khattab who was one of the closest people to Prophet Muhammad said if he was told one person only will be granted Paradise he´d think it is him and if he knew only one would go to hell he would also think it must be him. Yes, we live between havf(fear) and reca(hope). This is one of the main themes of Ottoman poetry. We can never be sure that we will be forgiven but we can always hope it.   Edited (10/24/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: E to T please

2862.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Oct 2012 Wed 02:26 pm   Quoting HaNNo     Really? what i mean is that for example when you ask me what school do i go to, would i say:   Narmer´in okulu   OR   Narmer okulu   Sorry for repetition it´s just confussing.   Ahmet Yücel´in okulu nerede? Where is Ahmet Yücel´s school? (defined) The name of the school is not Ahmet Yücel. Maybe Ahmet Yücel is a student. Ahmet Yücel Okulu nerede? Where is Ahmet Yücel School? (undefined) In this sentence name of the school is Ahmet Yücel. Maybe Ahmet Yücel is the founder of the school. HaNNo liked this message

Thread: E to T "var"

2863.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Oct 2012 Wed 11:07 am   Quoting HaNNo When I want to say You have my book.   Could it be: Seninle benim kitap var Sende benim kitabım var.

Thread: E to T please

2864.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Oct 2012 Wed 11:04 am   Quoting HaNNo     So, what if this nursing home has a name e.g İstanbul - i mean that i´m talking about a specific one. How would you write the sentense?   I´ll try: İstanbul´un bakımı evi....   "İstanbul bakım evi"  It is still undefined. Edited (10/24/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Ottoman Poetry

2865.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Oct 2012 Wed 10:52 am Münacat Appeal     Ya Rab hemişe lutfunu kıl reh-nüma bana  O Lord! Always make your grace a guide for me. Gösterme ol tariki ki yetmez sana bana  Don´t show me the road which doesn´t go to you.   Kat´ eyle aşinalığım andan ki gayrdır  Cut my acquaintanceship with others Ancak öz aşinaların et aşina bana  Make your real acquaintances acquaintance for me   Bir yerde sabit et kadem-i i´tibarımı Make my foot of esteem steady in a place Kim rehber-i şeri´at ola mukteda bana May guide of Islamic law be my imam   Yok bende bir amel sana şayeste ah eğer I don´t have any deed worthy of you  A´malime göre vere adlin ceza bana Pity if your justice give a punishment according to my deeds. Havf ü hatada muztaribim var ümid kim I am troubled with fear of my sins, but I have hope Lutfun vere beşaret-i afv-i ata bana May your grace give me the good news of your forgiving Ben bilmezem bana gereğin sen Hakim´sin I don´t know what is necessary for me, you are the wisest. Men´ eyle verme her ne gerekmez sana bana Forbid it, don´t give me what is not necessary for you. Habs-i hevada koyma Fuzuli-sıfat esir Don´t put me into the prison of passions like Fuzuli Ya Rab hidayet eyle tarik-i fena bana O Lord! Guide me to the road going to disappearance in your love.   Fuzuli   Edited (10/24/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/24/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/24/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/24/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/24/2012) by gokuyum HaNNo liked this message

Thread: turk-eng please

2866.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Oct 2012 Tue 10:56 pm   Quoting deli      Im running away, not from fear Im running away /fleeing from these hands that I love   my try There are many homonym "el" words in Turkish. Here it is land not hand.   Henry liked this message

Thread: E to T please

2867.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Oct 2012 Tue 01:39 pm   Quoting HaNNo     Does "ü" refers to "the"? 1) Ahmet´in evi (Ahmet´s home) 2)Bakım evi (nursing home) You see two noun clauses above. First one is a defined noun clause because Ahmet has this -in suffix and ev has "-i" suffix. But second one is an undefined noun clause because only ev has this -i suffix. Bakım has no suffix. "ü" is a variation of "i". Because there is vowel harmony in Turkish. They are same suffix. So when "çarşamba" and "gün" comes together they form an undefined noun clause and because of this "-ü" comes after "gün".   What is the difference between defined and undefined noun clauses? Read this: http://www.turkishclass.com/turkish_lesson_68     Edited (10/23/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/23/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/23/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/23/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/23/2012) by gokuyum HaNNo and rumeysa liked this message

Thread: CAN MAN TRAVEL FASTER THAN LİGHT ?

2868.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Oct 2012 Tue 11:00 am   Quoting AlphaF     PUZZLE   "All secrets of the universe Are already in the holy book." So say the religious experts, When they interpret the Quran.   It is funny however, is it not, That all discoveries come from the West ? Atomic secrets are uncovered on one hand, Space is discovered on the other.   How come our fate looks so bleak, When we have this holy book ? Or, are others also reading the Quran, While Islam is deep asleep? Do you know how Muslim scientists and philosophers deeply effected West in the Golden Age of Islam? It is not Islam´s fault why we are backward but it is the people´s fault who interprete it wrongly.Please don´t be captive of this orientalist bullshit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age

Thread: hard questions

2869.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Oct 2012 Tue 10:12 am   Quoting Abla Let´s check first if we can solve them.   My Try: D, E, B, A         Correct. But the last sentence doesn´t make a lot of sense.   Edited (10/23/2012) by gokuyum nifrtity liked this message

Thread: Ottoman Poetry

2870.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Oct 2012 Tue 01:43 am Mevlana Celaleddin Rumi Etme Don´t   Duydum ki bizi bırakmaya azmediyorsun etme I heard that you were willing to leave us, don´t! Başka bir yar başka bir dosta meylediyorsun etme You head towards another beloved, another friend, don´t! Sen yadeller dünyasında ne arıyorsun yabancı What do you look for in the foreign lands, o stranger! Hangi hasta gönüllüyü kasdediyorsun etme Which sick-hearted person do you want, don´t! Çalma bizi bizden bizi gitme o ellere doğru Don´t steal us from us, don´t go to those lands! Çalınmış başkalarına nazar ediyorsun etme You look at stolen people, don´t! Ey ay felek harab olmuş alt üst olmuş senin için O moon! Heavens have gone to ruin and turned upside down for you Bizi öyle harab öyle alt üst ediyorsun etme You devastate and ruin us so much, don´t! Ey makamı var ve yokun üzerinde olan kişi O the one who has a position over existence and absence Sen varlık sahasını öyle terk ediyorsun etme You leave the ground of existance, don´t! Sen yüz çevirecek olsan ay kapkara olur gamdan If you turned your face away from moon, it would be pitch-dark because of its sorrow Ayın da evini yıkmayı kastediyorsun etme You want to destroy home of moon too, don´t Bizim dudağımız kurur sen kuruyacak olsan Our lips would dry, if you got dried Gözlerimizi öyle yaş dolu ediyorsun etme You fill our eyes with tears, don´t! Aşıklarla başa çıkacak gücün yoksa eğer If you don´t have enough power to handle lovers Aşka öyleyse ne diye hayret ediyorsun etme Why are you amazed with love then? Don´t! Ey cennetin cehennemin elinde olduğu kişi O the one who has heaven and hell in his hand Bize cenneti öyle cehennem ediyorsun etme You make heaven hell for us, don´t! Şekerliğinin içinde zehir zarar vermez bize Poison can´t harm us in your sweetness O zehiri o şekerle sen bir ediyorsun etme… You mix that poison with that sugar, don´t! Bizi sevindiriyorsun huzurumuz kaçar öyle You make us happy but it disturbs us Huzurumu bozuyorsun sen mahvediyorsun etme You disturb and destroy us, don´t! Harama bulaşan gözüm güzelliğinin hırsızı My sinful eye is the thief of your beauty Ey hırsızlığa da değen hırsızlık ediyorsun etme O the one who is worthy of being stolen, you steal. Don´t! İsyan et ey arkadaşım söz söyleyecek an değil Rebel, o my friend. It is not  time for words. Aşkın baygınlığıyla ne meşk ediyorsun etme!! What do you do in the unconsciousness of love? Don´t!   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoYubbeAGt0   This poem was written for Şems (his best friend) by Rumi after seperation of him. Şems was killed by a group of people who were jealous of the friendship between him and Mevlana. He accepted his fate and embraced it willingly.   Edited (10/23/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/23/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/23/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/23/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/23/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/24/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: INCOHERENCY IN TURKISH

2871.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Oct 2012 Tue 12:15 am   Quoting Abla     Kıskanmadığımı da söyleyemem.   We love you too Abla Edited (10/23/2012) by gokuyum tunci liked this message

Thread: INCOHERENCY IN TURKISH

2872.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Oct 2012 Tue 12:06 am   Quoting tunci     Ne oldu kıskandın mı Abla ?   lol

Thread: INCOHERENCY IN TURKISH

2873.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Oct 2012 Tue 12:05 am   Quoting Abla Are you always talking to each other this way? Four posts just changing kisses oh no.   Anyway, it is funny to see that illogicalities of colloquial language follow very much the same patterns in different languages. This might be a useful thread to continue. For once we can pay attention to the mistakes Turks make themselves.   Instead of attacking poor learners all the time.     Turks love kissing each other. It is an old tradition And I always support learners. If someone says I attacked him/her,  I will apologize

Thread: T to E short

2874.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Oct 2012 Mon 11:49 pm   Quoting tunci   Yoldan geçen 100 kişiyi çevirip sorsan heralde 99´u duymamıştır bu kelimeyi. İnsan her gün yeni birşey öğreniyor. Tam bir bulmaca sorusu olabilir aslında.     Valla  bu kelimeyi duymak ve görmek inşallah bir daha nasip olmaz. Bu tür kelimeler ben de çarpıntıya neden oluyor

Thread: T to E short

2875.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Oct 2012 Mon 11:45 pm Concon jargonu galiba

Thread: Can someone tell me about some more awesome turkish music?

2876.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Oct 2012 Mon 11:42 pm Melancholy always!   Grup Kızılırmak - Sensiz olmaz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZtNboNcXc4

Thread: T to E short

2877.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Oct 2012 Mon 11:33 pm   Quoting ayse-eski   What is the meaning of şapşik?  Couldnt find anywhere If you want to say someone "silly" in a lovely way, you can use this word. But I never heard it before. Just learnt.   Edited (10/22/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/22/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: INCOHERENCY IN TURKISH

2878.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Oct 2012 Mon 10:47 pm   Quoting tunci     Estağfurullah Hocam. İnsanlara faydamız dokunuyorsa ne mutlu bize. Burada eli öpülesi bir üstat varsa o da sensin.   Estağfurullah hocam. Gözlerinden öpüyorum.   harp00n liked this message

Thread: -si?

2879.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Oct 2012 Mon 10:43 pm   Quoting trip     I realized after I signed off the other night that I should have used "-un" on "Pamuk," not "-ın." There is so much to think about in Turkish! I had thought that perhaps the quotation marks would come off the book title because of a recent exercise here that didn´t use quote marks around "Titanic" when there was a suffix attached. One last question: The "p" in "kitap" does not need to be come a "b" when the "ı" is added? Is this simply because the quotation marks come in between?  Teşekkürler! Yes. But we will still pronounce it as "b" because we can´t speak with quotation marks   Edited (10/22/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/22/2012) by gokuyum trip liked this message

Thread: INCOHERENCY IN TURKISH

2880.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Oct 2012 Mon 09:34 pm Tunci eli öpülecek hoca örneğisin valla.

Thread: CAN MAN TRAVEL FASTER THAN LİGHT ?

2881.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Oct 2012 Mon 09:21 pm   Quoting stumpy the dematerialisation process or scattering of a person´s molicules has already been acheived... this with the help of explosives... now we just need to figure how to be able to reassemble the scattered molicules  and it is called quantum teleportation and has been tested on protons and laser beams, so basicly a biological structure is analised, destroyed and reconstructed at the other end.   Please someone scatter me. It is okay if you don´t bring me together back

Thread: If clause

2882.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Oct 2012 Mon 12:36 pm Simply there are two modes in Turkish: 1-Haber kipleri (tenses)  -yor,-ir,-di,-miş,-ecek 2- Dilek kipleri (wish modes)  -sin,-iniz,-se, -e, -meli  We call these wish modes because they don´t occur in time.We just imagine them.   If these suffixes come after one another and if two vowels come together we put y between them.     Edited (10/22/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/22/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/22/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/22/2012) by gokuyum HaNNo liked this message

Thread: If clause

2883.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Oct 2012 Mon 12:30 pm   Quoting Abla I think the explanation is here:   When tense/aspect/modality markers co-occur they appear in the order given below (Göksel – Kerslake). Copular markers (group 4) are composite. They consist of the copula -(y)- < *-i- and the grammatical marker –DI, -mIş or –sA. Copular markers attach to   1. nouns 2. verbs that contain one of the tense/aspect/modality suffixes in group 3       1 2 3 4 5 -(y)A ‘possibility’ -(y)Abil ‘possibility’   -(y)Iver ‘non-premeditative’   -DI ‘perfective’   -mIş ‘perfective, evidential’   -sA ‘conditional’   -(A/I)r/-z ‘aorist’   -(y)Acak ‘future’   -(I)yor ‘imperfective’   -mAlI ‘obligative’   -mAktA ‘imperfective’   -(y)A ‘optative’ Copular markers:   -(y)DI ‘past copula’   -(y)mIş ‘evidential copula’   -(y)sA ‘conditional copula’ -Dir ‘generalizing modality’     So, in görseydim there is a suffix -sA- from group 3. That is why in further affixation it is treated like it was a noun and the copula -(y)DI-  -  buffer included  -  is used with it.   The situation would be the same in gördüysem btw  -  -DI- from group 3 and -(y)se- from copular markers.   I have understood the buffer is a relic from the old *er- stem, so no wonder.       Thank you abla. You saved me.

Thread: If clause

2884.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Oct 2012 Mon 12:15 pm   Quoting HaNNo     Sorry there is something i couldn´t understand here.   Does the imaginary "i" is always with the "di" past tense or only with if clause.   Meaning that when i say "I ran" would it be "yürüdüm" or "yürüydüm"   Thanks again It seems it happens only with if clause. Interesting. But why? I will search. It doesnt happen only with if clause. It happens with -meli (necessity) gelmeliydi.                                                                                -a  (will) geleydi. Edited (10/22/2012) by gokuyum

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2885.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Oct 2012 Mon 11:38 am , Edited (10/22/2012) by gokuyum

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2886.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Oct 2012 Mon 11:35 am   Quoting HaNNo I was learning If clause (type 3 unrealistic) -as they call it in Merhaba Turkish site-  i have some questions please:   Seni görseydim, selam verirdim 1. Why the buffer "y" is used here? 2. Does "ir" refers to present simple tense and also "dim" for past simpletense? And if so, why it is not only "dim" or even "miş"?   Thanks in advance 1) There is a buffer letter there because there is an imaginary "i" before "di": "idi" We don´t pronounce it anymore but we still use the buffer letter. 2)"-ir"refers to present simple tense and "-di" refers to past simple tense. "m" after "-di" is personal ending for "I". So you can understand first person singular does the action. "irdi" together gives "would" meaning.   Edited (10/22/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/22/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/22/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: CAN MAN TRAVEL FASTER THAN LİGHT ?

2887.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Oct 2012 Mon 09:34 am   Quoting stumpy man can travel faster than light, the problem is not bursting into flames or stopping. just like man can be teleported from one location to another, we just haven´t mastered the rematerialisation process yet   Dematerialisation and rematerialisation of a man will never be achieved by science. It is impossible. Only God can make such a thing happen. Science has its limits.

Thread: -si?

2888.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Oct 2012 Mon 09:28 am   Quoting Abla     My Try:   Orhan Pamuk´un "Kara kitap"ı OR Orhan Pamuk´un "Kara kitap" romanı OR Orhan Pamuk´un "Kara kitap" adlı romanı   All of them are correct.

Thread: Ottoman Poetry

2889.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Oct 2012 Mon 09:04 am , Edited (10/22/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/22/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/22/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/22/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/22/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/22/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/23/2012) by gokuyum Edited (7/7/2013) by gokuyum

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2890.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Oct 2012 Mon 08:21 am Seyyid Nesimi - Sığmazam - Cavit Murtezaoğlu   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHz-vMHfypM   Great music. I will translate the song in the Ottoman poetry section.

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2891.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Oct 2012 Mon 08:06 am   Quoting Henry   Thanks Tunci. I have a question, Ben nefret ederim = I hate. Don´t you need to say ´what´ you hate? I hate it (the arguing) Tartışmaktan/ondan nefret ederim. Or is it because the arguing (tartışma) is mentioned in the sentence before and after, that it is not necessary to say this again?   Tartışmayı sever misin? Ben nefret ederim. Bıktım artık tartışmaktan.   We speak like this Henry.I don´t critcise anyone here but second sentence is not correct. Not gramatically but semantically. You see "tartışmayı" is the definite object of the first sentence. But in the second sentence verb wants an "indirect object" So we should add "tartışmaktan". If we don´t add it, it looks like verb in the second sentence adresses the "definite object" of the first sentence and it is an incoherency. We call it "anlatım bozukluğu" If the verb was different and there was the same indirect object in the first sentence, we wouldn´t mention it in the second sentence because repeating the same thing if not necessary is also an incohorency in Turkish Edited (10/22/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/22/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/22/2012) by gokuyum Henry liked this message

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2892.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Oct 2012 Mon 07:53 am   Quoting Leylak111 bu ne? What is this? şu kim? Who is that? o ne? What is it? bunlar ne? What are these? şunlar ne? What are those? onlar kim? Who are they? sirada neler var? What are next?  neler? What things? (Note: We have a plural "what" in Turkish. I translated it as "what things" It doesn´t seem correct but I couldn´t find another way to translate it into English.) soruyu kim bilemiyor? Who doesn´t know the question?     Edited (10/22/2012) by gokuyum Leylak111 and nifrtity liked this message

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2893.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Oct 2012 Sun 11:07 am   Quoting tunci   In fact , there are different views on "buffering consonants"  and there is not total agreement over this issue among linguists. And they called them different names.     It seems so. Still I stick with Muharrem Ergin.

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2894.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Oct 2012 Sat 08:35 pm Here is an explanation if you want: Prof.Dr. Muharrem Ergin´in Türk Dili adlı eserinden aktarıyorum, hocamız kaynaştırma ünsüzleri yerine yardımcı konsonant terimin kullanmaktadır: " Türkçe´de iki tane yardımcı konsonant(ünsüz) vardır. Bunlardan biri ´y´ biri ´n´ dir. Konsonant olarak asıl umumi yardımcı ses ´y´dir. iki vokal (ünlü arasına daima ´y´ yardımcı sesi getirilir: ana-[y]a bilgi[y]i... misallerinde olduğu gibi. ´n´ ise yalnız iyelik ekleri ve aitlik eki ile isim çekim ekleri arasında kullanılan yardımcı sestir. ... Kendisinden sonra gelen isim çekim eki vokal ya da konsonantla(Ünsüzle) başlayabilir. eli [n]den kendi-si (n)e..." Prof. Dr. Muharrem Ergin Türkçe´nin en eski devirlerinden beri kullanılan bu ünsüzleri yardımcı ünsüz olarak almış, diğerlerine değinmemiştir. Bunun sebebi diğer kaynaştırma ünsüzlerinin belli bir dönemden sonra yalnızca özel konumlarda kullanılmasındandır. Şöyle ki "s" kaynaştırma ünsüzü yalnız 3. teklik kişi iyelik ekinden önce kullanılır. çiçeğin koku- (s)u odanın kapı(s)ı örneklerinde olduğu gibi. Ancak su ve ne kelimeleri kural dışıdır. Çünkü bu sözcüklere 3. teklik kişi iyelik eki getirildiğinde "y" ünsüzü kullanılır. Bunun sebebi su kelimesinin Eski Türkçe´de sub olmasıdır. ne kelimesinde ise ne(y)i ve ne(s)i kullanımları da vardır. "ş" ünsüzü ise yalnız üleştirme sayı sıfatlarında kullanılır. iki(ş)er altı(ş)ar gibi.   Note: n´ye de zamir n´si denir. Tam bir kaynaştırma harfi değildir çünki kısıtlı bir kullanım alanı vardır. Edited (10/20/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/20/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/20/2012) by gokuyum

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2895.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Oct 2012 Sat 08:24 pm   Quoting ninacath Hi Sakine you asked about the ending Sİ on Kahvesi Türk kahve-S-İ S is a buffer letter İ is the 3rd person ending  he/she/it.. the two words together are  in a relationship Turkish Coffee think of it as saying ...Türk its coffee you have the same ending on many things  you need the buffer S if the word ends in a vowel  if the word ends in a consonant just harmony related ending     (İ Ü I U) Kent otobüsÜ     town its bus   ends in consonant so no buffer S is needed   Bulaşık makineSİ   washing its machine El cantaSI           hand its bag   hope this helps       "s" is not a buffer letter. It is the part of the suffix. Only buffer letter in Turkish is "y"   Abla liked this message

Thread: eng - turkish please. thanks - short

2896.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Oct 2012 Sat 08:14 pm   Quoting Abla But if you for instance saw her all the time but couldn´t approach her it would be worse wouldn´t it?   We thought the same thing in the same time

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2897.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Oct 2012 Sat 08:13 pm Another explanation can be like this: You love someone but she is married with another person. If you saw her everyday it would be very hard for you to endure the pain. But if you didn´t see her often, it could be easier to endure it. Edited (10/20/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: eng - turkish please. thanks - short

2898.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Oct 2012 Sat 08:05 pm   Quoting Abla The meaning is not so clear I must admit. This is how TDK explains two similar sayings:   §  göz görmeyince gönül katlanır  yakınımızda bulunmayanların özlemine, acısına daha kolay dayanabiliriz. Atasözü This explanation doesn´t make sense because it says we can endure the longing and pain of someone who is not near us easier.  If she was not away you wouldn´t miss her. So why would it be harder for me to endure the longing of someone who is near me? I wouldn´t miss someone already near me. §  göz görür, gönül katlanır  kişi, sevdiği bir kimsenin uzak yere gitmesi durumunda onunla görüşmekten umudunu keser, ayrılığa katlanır. Atasözü   Isn´t it like what you can´t see you forget or if you don´t see someone you get used to his absence?     Edited (10/20/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: eng - turkish please. thanks - short

2899.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Oct 2012 Sat 07:35 pm   Quoting Henry Ahh! I see you cannot always trust what is written in some dictionaries click here Göz görmezse gönül katlanır. If eyes don´t see, heart endures. I understand this like "Even eyes don´t see, heart still keeps loving and endure the pain". Maybe I am wrong.

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2900.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Oct 2012 Sat 01:36 pm   Quoting Abla Göz görmezse gönül katlanır, doğru mu?   No abla, it is the opposite. Gözden ırak olan, gönülden de ırak olur; değil mi?

Thread: CAN MAN TRAVEL FASTER THAN LİGHT ?

2901.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Oct 2012 Sat 04:51 am   Quoting vineyards Any dialogue that involves God is doomed for failure unless the parties share the same belief.   If so we could say this for other dialogues too. I don´t think this kind of dialogue is always destined to fail. It worked on me. (I was an atheist)   I have even some posts here in forum defending atheism. Here look at this topic I even scream "Forever science" and I say "I am only follower of science" two years ago. How weird http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_46509 Edited (10/20/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/20/2012) by gokuyum

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2902.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Oct 2012 Thu 09:11 pm   Quoting Milacik Can someone correct me: herkezin gozu benim uzerimde Does it mean everyone´s eyes are on me? Thank you

Thread: eng to turk plsss

2903.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Oct 2012 Thu 09:10 pm   Quoting tomac     I am not sure about the translation of the last paragraph. I understand the original sentence this way: They want to find a self employed vacancy within the food industry. This vacancy will allow them to apply for ECAA permit. And, having that permit, they will be able to work in UK.   While I think that the above translation means: They are interested in obtaining ECAA permit. Which will give them possibility to work in the food industry.   So I think that both sentences have a bit different meaning. If I´m right, do you think that this sentence could be translated this way? Ayrıca, Birleşik Krallık´ta çalışmamı sağlayacak ECAA iznini almayı mümkün kılan, yiyecek/yemek sektöründe kendi hesabıma çalışabileceğim bir iş bulmakla da ilgileniyorum.

Thread: Turkish to English please

2904.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Oct 2012 Thu 12:36 pm   Quoting Abla     My Try:   I only wanted a small loan for a short while because you are my friend. What is so bad about it? Ok, thank you nevertheless, undoubtedly there will be another solution. I didn´t believe you would think this way, don´t worry. But I want you to know this: I am not like you think. Because I am very sensitive in these matters.   It is not a problem if you want less than 100 TL. But after it, love starts to die

Thread: Turkish to English please

2905.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Oct 2012 Thu 12:35 pm   Quoting Umut_Umut Money, money, money Must be funny In the rich man´s world Money, money, money Always sunny In the rich man´s world Aha-ahaaa All the things I could do If I had a little money It´s a rich man´s world     I curse the man who invented money Edited (10/18/2012) by gokuyum

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2906.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Oct 2012 Thu 12:33 pm   Quoting gokuyum     If you loved me, you would talk to me every hour of day. You don´t talk to me, you lie. Am I your toy? Every man has his limits. My limit is 2 hours a day   Edited (10/18/2012) by gokuyum jolanaze and Abla liked this message

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2907.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Oct 2012 Thu 12:29 pm   Quoting AlphaF     If you can still compare PLAYBOY with the BULVAR, and think they serve the same purpose,  you have not learned much since..   Why can´t I? What makes it so special?

Thread: CAN MAN TRAVEL FASTER THAN LİGHT ?

2908.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Oct 2012 Thu 12:25 pm Why do birds fly but men can´t, because birds study physics more than humans? Or because God wants so? I don´t know the reason. But they still fly So why wouldn´t a caveman travel faster than light after God had given him the inspiration? Edited (10/18/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/18/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/18/2012) by gokuyum

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2909.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Oct 2012 Thu 03:59 am I watched the first episode and I like it. But my all time favourite tv series is still Behzat Ç. I can´t watch Kurtlar Vadisi anymore because physics don´t work in the world of the series as we know   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEPY6rzlDRU   nemanjasrb liked this message

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2910.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Oct 2012 Thu 03:41 am   Quoting AlphaF     A fantastically sophisticated magazine. A solid part of my early education....This boy is on the right track !     When I was going to middle school, there was a newspaper of that kind(Bulvar Gazetesi). I was storing it under my bed but one day my mother found them. But nothing happened. Even trying to buy that newspaper was a matter of courage for a boy like me.  Now internet killed all the excitement Edited (10/18/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/18/2012) by gokuyum

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2911.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Oct 2012 Thu 03:37 am Don´t think this much. Do whatever you want to do and learn from your mistakes.

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2912.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Oct 2012 Thu 03:34 am   Quoting AlphaF     I heard on Saudi Television, from some one introduced as a religious scholar who is a specialized expert on the subject of jinnies that, "By their creation,  jinnies are both physically and mentally inferior to mankind; they can only harm man when a man is already in a physically or mentally distressed state." So, if jinnies have done it,  mankind can also do it; by some other form of physics, if conventional physics wont help !   You only need inspiration from God, not physics

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2913.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Oct 2012 Thu 03:31 am   Quoting Abla     My Try:   When I was small aunties used to squeeze my cheek saying: "I will take you for my daugter." Now I am calling out to them: "What about our deal?" I have never met with such aunties in my childhood and now

Thread: T to e one sentence please

2914.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Oct 2012 Thu 03:30 am   Quoting nifrtity     Herkezin olurum biraz var gururum I can be together with everyone, I have only a little honor.   nifrtity liked this message

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2915.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Oct 2012 Thu 03:28 am   Quoting nicolevins My friend must be crazy if he thinks I can understand this message.   Eğer beni sevseydin 24. Saat benimle konuşurdun benimle hiç konuşmuyorsun sen yalan söylüyorsun neden ben senin oyuncaginmiyim   If you loved me, you would talk to me every hour of day. You don´t talk to me, you lie. Am I your toy? nifrtity liked this message

Thread: English to Turkish please

2916.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Oct 2012 Thu 03:26 am   Quoting Lady_A Just how low can you fall? I´ve never imagined I would say this, I thought so highly about you, but you are exactly like the others.   Thanks!   Nasıl bu kadar alçalabilirsin? Bunu söyleyeceğimi hayal bile etmezdim. Senin hakkında çok iyi düşünüyordum ama sen de aynen diğerleri gibisin.   Note: Money kills love, right?

Thread: CAN MAN TRAVEL FASTER THAN LİGHT ?

2917.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Oct 2012 Wed 04:37 pm   Quoting AlphaF   Those parts of the holy scriptures above, that some people seem to spend 1400 years deeply pondering about, may in fact be the limitation that God has imposed upon them.  Some others seem to have understood that jinnies have nothing to do with space travel and have concentrated on physics instead...... Who do you think has a better chance of achieving space travel ? Very hard to tell, no ?      Do physics have any chance to teleport something? But jinns already did it 2000 years ago. Physics suck Edited (10/17/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Translation attempt

2918.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Oct 2012 Wed 04:58 am   Quoting insallah     Thanks

Thread: MUTLU SOn by Teoman..proper translation of lyrics to ENGLISH..tnx

2919.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Oct 2012 Wed 04:54 am Generally I only correct mistakes. annaloph liked this message

Thread: MUTLU SOn by Teoman..proper translation of lyrics to ENGLISH..tnx

2920.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Oct 2012 Wed 04:52 am   Quoting annaloph Gokuyum, Im so sorry..Im so lost with "myself" that I wasn´t able to see it was you who translated the song... Many thanks to you and sorry for such my mistake! (am still new in this chat/class..not even a techie person)!!  Anyways, like I said I need immediate reply from anybody regarding this one, because it´s a matter of the heart and a matter os self-introspection..."self-searching and self-knowing" as I call it.. This will be on this page as history until forever, ntil TIME passes by us all... my name is written and my love to "Love"... God bless us all and may us all be enlightened with songs, with languages, with people, with love, with LIFE!!! A "Happy Love", a "Happy Ending", an ending that never ends!!!.... -ANNALOPH-   Henry translated it. I just corrected his mistakes. If henry didn´t translate it, I wouldn´t even read it. So you should thank Henry. annaloph liked this message

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2921.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Oct 2012 Wed 01:04 am ,   Edited (10/17/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: MUTLU SOn by Teoman..proper translation of lyrics to ENGLISH..tnx

2922.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Oct 2012 Wed 12:59 am   Quoting Henry my try as a learner çok uzaktan geldiysen, If you came from very far away otur, soluklan, sit, take a breather (rest) dedi. he/she said kuraklıktan geçtiysen, if you passed through drought  dikenli yollardan, through the prickly paths karanlıktan, through the darkness gölgeden, through the shadows ıssızdan, through desolation  yüzünü yalayan soğuktan, doğum, through the cold licking your face, birth acı, doğrularım, korkularım; pain, my trues, my fears sorulunca yanıtı içimizde olan, while being asked, (if you are a pencil and blank paper)whose answer is inside us kanımı donduran, which freezes my blood ısıtan, durduran, which warms and stops it bir kalemsen, If you are a pencil bir boş kağıt a blank paper mutlu aşk varsa da; although there is a happy love  mutlu son yoktur. there is no happy ending. çocukluğun anıları childhood memories sırtında ağır örtü, a heavy cloth covering on your back üşütendir aslında, which in reality makes them (winter nights) feel cold kış gecelerini the winter nights süre değil anlattığım, it is not a period that I recounted her şeyin sonu it is the end of everything mutlu aşk varsa da, although there is a happy love mutlu son yoktur there is no happy ending.   Good try Henry. Someone can easily see the structural differences between English and Turkish when he reads this poem.   Edited (10/17/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/17/2012) by gokuyum [I added "although"] Edited (10/17/2012) by gokuyum [it is the end of everything] annaloph and Henry liked this message

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2923.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Oct 2012 Wed 12:39 am   Quoting caliptrix Bir şey eklemek istiyorum; Abla´nın düzeltmesinin yanında, şöyle de olabilir; Çoğunlukla bir şey kaybetmeye kaybedinceye kadar değerini anlamıyoruz ya da; kaybedene kadar lol

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2924.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Oct 2012 Wed 12:37 am   Quoting misspinup   aşkım onada brezilya kadını tanıştırmak olmazmı.   aşkım benim abi karısıyla sorun var ben diyorum o brezilya kadını tanışmak.   ben diyorum sana  abi karısı ayrı yaşıyor anlaşamıyor güzel bir kadın brezilyadan tanışmak olsun istiyorum   We never talk like this. Is he writing this way for you to understand?   nifrtity liked this message

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2925.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Oct 2012 Wed 12:33 am , Edited (10/17/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/17/2012) by gokuyum

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2926.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Oct 2012 Tue 01:00 am   Quoting ShiraD Arkadaşlar   Sihirli Annem 2003den dvd de yada videoda istiyorum ama bulamam.  Güvenli bir yer varmı acaba indirmek veya sattın almak için o serie? Teşekküler Şira   Friends  İs there a place to download or buy Sihirli Annem 2003? Many thanks Shira Here you can watch all seasons here: http://tv.posta.com.tr/yerli-diziler/Sihirli-Annem/14   ShiraDest liked this message

Thread: Ottoman Poetry

2927.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Oct 2012 Mon 11:22 pm   Quoting Abla       It is about religion. It seemed clear to me from the first sight. What else but God can you describe with attributions like this: the only one who really knows you, your arm and wing, your clear sea, the one you eventually return to?   The addressee has been lost. Despite the fact that she knew what is best for her she kept her own mind and trusted herself to strangers.   Well, I think it could be seen in two ways: the speaker is accusing or he is calling her back in repentance. I chose the latter one because the metaphors are merciful, compassionate, offering a second chance. The speaker is not turning away from a hopeless case but explaining the basics once more patiently.     Yes, this is a possible read. But I couldn´t read it like you because I knew the context. But that doesn´t mean your reading is wrong. Very interesting. We discuss these issues in university Edited (10/15/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Can someone tell me about some more awesome turkish music?

2928.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Oct 2012 Mon 11:17 pm   Quoting Abla Kıvırcık Ali, Nerdesin (Ölüm seni arar oldum)     My Try for the lyrics:   Izdırabı gül suyuna bandılar Gülüm seni arar oldum nerdesin Ayrılığı altın tasta sundular Ölüm seni arar oldum nerdesin   They dipped agony into rose water. My rose, I have begun to search for you, where are you? They offered seperation in a golden bowl. Death, I have begun to search for you, where are you? ------------------------------- Ardı olmayanın derdi çok olur Leşini yemeye kurdu çok olur Ömrü sürgün geçer yurdu yok olur Elim seni arar oldum nerdesin   There is going to be plenty of pain for those who have no past. There is going to be plenty of wolves to eat the carcase. His Life is going to pass in exile and he is going to be left landless Sadness, I have begun to search for you, where are you? ------------------------------ Memleketim maraş emekçi adım Yoruldu gençliğim yoruldu tadım Kendimi kimseye anlatamadım Dilim seni arar oldum nerdesin     My homeland is a Maraş, I come from working class.   My youth got tired, my delight got tired.   I couldn’t explain myself to anyone.   My words, I have begun to search for you, where are you?   Good try but don´t let n misguide you. It can be a part of the verb root.   Edited (10/15/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: EZEL

2929.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Oct 2012 Mon 11:05 pm   Quoting nifrtity     Yes maybe Ezel is suicide but who are open the door for Can     It doesn´t matter because it never happened. Narrator exactly says this. It is pure fantasy what happened after Ezel´s suicide. nifrtity liked this message

Thread: Ottoman Poetry

2930.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Oct 2012 Mon 10:57 pm   Quoting harp00n Abiler, coşmuşsunuz yürekten kutluyorum...  I first heard this poem in Deli Yürek tv series. Kuşçu was saying this poem. I was going to high school and it effected me so much. I even remember it after all those years   Edited (10/15/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: EZEL

2931.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Oct 2012 Mon 10:54 pm   Quoting nifrtity   I saw Ezel series It is very good series I think that is open end And Ezel an hero character in Battle of good and evil and revenge . So that is open end and little Fantasia end so I think it refers to heros doesnt die     The end is a fantasy I guess. Because narrator says there is no good endings in real life and he says story ended with Ezel´s suicide. That is what I understand. Edited (10/15/2012) by gokuyum nifrtity liked this message

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2932.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Oct 2012 Mon 10:47 pm   Quoting Abla A beautiful invitation to monotheism, that´s how I see it.     Can you explain why this seems as an invitation to you?

Thread: Ottoman Poetry

2933.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Oct 2012 Mon 10:43 pm   Quoting Abla A beautiful invitation to monotheism, that´s how I see it.   The language is amazingly modern, I would use the word pure if I may. I had to check the timing: thirteenth century isn´t it?   It is a translation abla. Because Mevlana wrote his poems in Farsi language. But I still wanted to add this translation here.

Thread: Ottoman Poetry

2934.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Oct 2012 Mon 10:39 pm   Quoting ikicihan   demedim mi sana yaraşır otağı kuran ben´im asıl, Haven´t I said "Marquee of Koran befits you and I am the one     i think the word "kuran" here is not a book name, it should be a verb: kur-mak: to build sth up. otağı kuran: the one who build (or erected) the otag (a big and luxury tent) You are absolutely right. I read it like a "farsça tamlama". I will correct it. Thanks

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2935.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Oct 2012 Mon 07:16 pm   Quoting nemanjasrb     No. I just said that here i read that. But I read also on internet,and some people sais that maybe 3rd season will be soon.   There will be no third season and there are many discussions and many different ideas about what happened at the end. Here you can read comments: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foGxpIbq1L4 nemanjasrb liked this message

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2936.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Oct 2012 Mon 06:56 pm Demedim mi? Haven´t I said? Oraya gitme demedim mi sana,  Haven´t I said "Don´t go there?" seni yalnız ben tanırım demedim mi? Haven´t I said "I am the only one who really knows you" Demedim mi bu yokluk yurdunda hayat çeşmesi ben´im? Haven´t I said "I am the fountain of life in this land of absence"? Bir gün kızsan bana, " If one day you get angry at me, alsan başını, If you take yourself yüz bin yıllık yere gitsen,  and go to a place one hundred thousand years away" dönüp kavuşacağın yer ben´im demedim mi? Haven´t I said "I am the place you will turn back at the end" Demedim mi şu görünene razı olma, Haven´t I said "Don´t be consent to what is seen" demedim mi sana yaraşır otağı kuran ben´im asıl, Haven´t I said "I am the one who builds marquee befits you and I am the one onu süsleyen, bezeyen ben´im demedim mi? who really decorates and bedecks it"? Haven´t I said? Ben bir denizim demedim mi sana? Havent I said "I am a sea Sen bir balıksın demedim mi? and you are a fish." Haven´t I said? Demedim mi o kuru yerlere gitme sakın, Haven´t I said "Don´t go to that dry places ever"? senin duru denizin ben´im demedim mi? Haven´t I said "I am your clear sea."? Kuşlar gibi tuzağa gitme demedim mi? Haven´t I said "Don´t go to trap like birds"? Demedim mi senin uçmanı sağlayan ben´im, Haven´t I said "I am the one who makes you fly"? senin kolun kanadın ben´im demedim mi? Haven´t I said "I am your arm and wing."? Demedim mi yolunu vururlar senin, Haven´t I said " They will hold your way"? demedim mi soğuturlar seni. Haven´t I said "They will cool you"? Oysa senin ateşin ben´im,"Yet  I am your fire, sıcaklığın ben´im demedim mi? I am your warmth" Haven´t I said. Türlü şeyler derler sana demedim mi? Haven´t I said "They will tell you many things." Kötü huylar edinirsin demedim mi?  "You will get bad habits" Ölmezlik kaynağını kaybedersin demedim mi? "You will lose fountain of immortality."? Yani beni kaybedersin demedim mi? " Which means you will lose me" Haven´t I said? Söyle, bunları sana hep demedim mi? Tell me, haven´t I said all of these? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSbdYZ1k-zw   Mevlana Celaleddin Rumi   Note: This poem was written for Sultan Rukneddin who had been poisoned in a Mongolian festival. It is a very touching poem. Edited (10/15/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/15/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/15/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/15/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/15/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/15/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/15/2012) by gokuyum Salma G. liked this message

Thread: T to E please^^

2937.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Oct 2012 Mon 06:15 pm   Quoting Abla İki satırlık adamlar kimlerdir?   I have been looking for this information all day but everywhere in the web they only refer to this song just like their identity is something everyone knows.   Men of two lines. It means worthless people. There is nothing much to talk about them.

Thread: T to E please^^

2938.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Oct 2012 Mon 06:01 pm   Quoting archinia oh i am sorry guys i thought you were girls :s sorry again and thank you again   Abla is not a guy she is a woman.

Thread: AFGHANISTAN

2939.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Oct 2012 Mon 05:58 pm What about a boy with a magazine? Edited (10/15/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Help with Prayer

2940.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Oct 2012 Mon 05:57 pm   Quoting tunci     Normally we say prayers after we eat, but there is one important word that is said before start eating which is;   Bismillahirrahmanirrahim. [ means " In the name of God, most Gracious, most Compassionate".]   This word is like a key that opens any door of blessing .So that word will be sufficient for you to impress her family. And just be yourself. I am sure they will be happy if you say that word just before you start eating.     It is a good thing to say it. But saying it loudly can sound weird for some modern families. Say it in a low voice like whispering. They can hear and appreciate you. bu ne ya liked this message

Thread: Tebrikler Avrupa!

2941.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Oct 2012 Mon 05:16 am   Quoting stumpy   Will never happen, Bush has a warrant for his arrest for war crimes if he leaves the USA   Who can arrest him?

Thread: Too much tenses and not tenses in Turkish

2942.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Oct 2012 Mon 03:13 am   Quoting tunci       Gökuyum, senin -mAkta ekini sevmemekte inat etmene hak vermekteyim.   Eww.. "makta" is really gross

Thread: Too much tenses and not tenses in Turkish

2943.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Oct 2012 Mon 03:13 am   Quoting nemanjasrb Wonderful tunci,thank´s a lot ! @gokuyum,so you never use makta?    I try not to use it. Because it is the same thing with saying that "I am in coming" instead of "I am coming" in English. Edited (10/15/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/15/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Tebrikler Avrupa!

2944.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Oct 2012 Sun 08:08 am   Quoting ikicihan     Racism is a problem in most part of the world, even in Turkey, Europe is not an exception. EU may be a christian club, no problem for me. There are many clubs all over the world. You can attemp to join them whichever you like. But if you were rejected more than one time based on unimportant issues, you should stop attempting to join there and look for better clubs! if you have azıcık şeref, haysiyet! kaldıysa tabii! I never wanted to join any club in my life even a book club I just want to say EU and Nobel Prize suck big time.   Edited (10/14/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Tebrikler Avrupa!

2945.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Oct 2012 Sat 11:57 pm At least they could accept Bosnia instead of Turkey as a gesture because they didn´t do anything when Bosnians were victims of a genocide. This would also help EU to improve its peaceful image Edited (10/13/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/13/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/14/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: What is policy?

2946.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Oct 2012 Sat 11:51 pm It is to say "I am right you are wrong."

Thread: Chatroom sucks

2947.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Oct 2012 Sat 11:49 pm It shows you "left" when you click a link on the forum. This is annoying. How can I look at someone´s profile without leaving the chatroom?

Thread: Chatroom sucks

2948.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Oct 2012 Sat 11:47 pm Please make it stable

Thread: A Turkish Mother?

2949.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Oct 2012 Sat 11:39 pm What if I say I am Chinese? Is it possible? http://www.turkishclass.com/picture_25825

Thread: Too much tenses and not tenses in Turkish

2950.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Oct 2012 Sat 11:31 pm We don´t like "makta" as Turkish teachers. At least I don´t like it Edited (10/13/2012) by gokuyum nemanjasrb liked this message

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2951.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Oct 2012 Sat 06:36 pm   Quoting Abla Let´s just take a hundred years back in time. All the wars and oppression were still to come. I have lived with people who had to go through it all and the wounds were long lasting. Still it feels now like it must have happened a very long time ago.   In my opinion European Union deserves to be praised for its acchievements especially at present when the economical crisis has taken all our attention. The Nobel prize reminds us what the Union was originally created for.   In my opinion, two things in present day Europe may put its reputation as a peace maker in danger:   1. EU countries officially exported weapons for the worth of 31,7 milliard euros in 2010. Probably the number is much bigger because the countries have not reached an agreement on how this trade should be reported.   2. EU does not represent a common voice. A European citizen has not been born. Instead, national interests are playing a more and more important role in common decisions. The rich north is blaiming the poor south of something and vice versa. EU has not been able to keep the extreme right and ultranationalist forces under control.   tomac, your share of the prize is 0,23 cents.   Racism is a big problem in Europe. And EU is still a christian club. Edited (10/13/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: E to T please

2952.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Oct 2012 Sat 12:44 am   Quoting tomac My try as learner:   We can use Skype to talk. Konuşmak için Skype´yi kullanabiliriz.   Definite. tomac liked this message

Thread: Religious Tales

2953.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Oct 2012 Sat 12:31 am bir diğer ilginç hadise ise zamanın inanmayanlarından birinin şems-i tebriz hazretlerine gelip ukalaca "sana üç sorum var şems efendi" diye konuya girmesiyle başlar. şems hazretleri bu esnada topraktan çömlek yapmaktadır. "buyur" der. adam başlar "ilk sorum şudur, şeytan ateşten yaratıldıysa cehennemde nasıl yanacak? hiç ateş ateşi yakar mı???" şems hazretleri dinlemeye devam eder. " ikinci soruma gelince, bana Allah var diyorsun... peki nerede? göster de inanayım ben de. ben görmediğim şeye inanmam efendi..." şems hazretleri çömleği yoğurmaktadır. "...ve son sorum, madem Allah bizi yarattı, peki neden bırakmadı şarap içelim zina yapalım??? ne diye kısıtlamalar getirdi??? ne gerek var??? bıraksın istediğimiz gibi yaşayalım, neden bizi yargılayacak???" der. Adamın lafının bitmesiyle şems hazretleri toprak testiyi alır ve adamın kafasında kırar. adam şaşkınlıktan şok olmuş bir şekilde şems hazretlerine bakar ve hemen söylenerek kadıya koşar. kadı efendiye olayı anlatır, kadı efendi de şaşırmıştır. hemen çağırttırır şems hazretlerini. şems hazretleri gelir. kadı söylenir "şems hazretleri yakışır mı bu senin gibi adama? ne diye hırpaladın adamı?". şems hazretleri şöyle der "o bana soru sordu ben de cevapladım". Herkes şaşkındır ve şems hazretleri başlar açıklamaya... "Bana şeytanın ateşten yaratıldığını ve nasıl ateşte yanacağını sordu, söylesin bana. toprak testi nasıl olurda topraktan yaratılmış insanın canını yakar? ikinci olarak benden ona Allah´ı göstermemi istedi, görmediğim şeye inanmam dedi. peki o bana kafasındaki acıyı gösterebilir mi? son olarak da Allah´ın neden insanları yargılayacağını sordu, neden onları başıboş bırakmadığını sordu. Peki o zaman beni buraya niye çağırdınız?"   A short translation: A man came and said Sems-i Tebrizi that he had three questions. Şems was making a pot from soil. He said go on, ask. Man asked: 1) If Satan was created from fire, how will he burn in hell? Can fire burn fire? Şems kept listening. 2)You say there is Allah. But where is he? Show him to me so I believe. I don´t believe what I don´t see. Şems still was going on making the pot. 3)If God had created us why he didnt let us to do whatever we want. Why did he set rules for us? Why will he judge us? After man had finished asking his question, Şems hit the man´s head with the pot. Man was shocked and he ran to the Kadi  (judge). He told him what happened. Kadı summoned Şems and asked why he had behaved so. Şems said that he had only answered man´s questions. And he explained: 1)He had asked me how could fire burn fire? I showed him that a pot made by soil can harm a man also made by soil. So can he explain why fire can´t burn fire? 2)He wanted me to show Allah and said he wouldnt believe what he didnt see. So can he show me the pain on his head? 3)And he asked me why Allah judge people and doesn´t let them do whatever they want. If that is the case why you summoned me?   Note: This is my favourite tale. Edited (10/13/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/13/2012) by gokuyum Salma G. and ikicihan liked this message

Thread: Religious Tales

2954.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Oct 2012 Sat 12:03 am Amanın biri kapkaranlık bir gecede elinde fener ve omzunda testi ile yürüyordu. Boş boğazın biri yanına yaklaştı ve: ”Ey şaşkın adam! Senin için gece ile gündüzün farkı yoktur. Senin gözünde karanlıkla aydınlık birdir. Öyleyse fenerin sana ne faydası olacak ki?” dedi. Bu söz üzerine anlamlı bir şekilde tebessüm eden ama şöyle dedi: ”Bu feneri kendim için değil, senin gibi kör kalpli sersemler için aldım ki, bana çarpıpda testimi kırmasınlar.” A blind man was walking with a lantern in his hand and a jug on his shoulder in a very dark night. A man came beside him and said:" O crazy man. There is no difference for you between night and day. What is the use of lantern for you?" Blind man smiled and said "I didn´t take this lantern for myself but for stupid people who has a blind heart like you so you can´t hit me and break my jug in the darkness."

Thread: English translation pelize

2955.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Oct 2012 Fri 11:45 pm   Quoting gokuyum     "kendi" can solve many mysteries for foreigners but common sense works fine for us. "kendi" also sucks common sense rocks.

Thread: eng to turk

2956.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Oct 2012 Fri 11:43 pm   Quoting tunci   Many times you told me you want me to be happy as I deserve it     İn my opinion, "as" in that sentence works as "since", so i would say ; Bana, birçok kez, mutlu olmamı istediğini, çünkü mutluluğu hakettiğimi söyledin. It is not very different than "Bana birçok kez, hakkettiğim için mutlu olmamı istediğini söyledin"

Thread: eng to turk

2957.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Oct 2012 Fri 11:41 pm   Quoting tomac Sorry, Gokuyum - I haven´t seen your replies while I was writing mine. I´m also not sure about exact meaning of original text... so probably we will have to wait for someone to help clear our doubts Look above I guess your second guess is correct.

Thread: eng to turk

2958.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Oct 2012 Fri 11:38 pm   Quoting tomac Thank you, Gokuyum, for your explanation and example. However, I have still some doubts about this sentence: Bana birçok kez hakkettiğim kadar mutlu olmamı söyledin. I think it means "you told me many times that I´m as happy as I deserve it" - so there are two things missing: 1. "Many times you told me you want me to be happy...". So it looks like if "istediğini" was missing here: Yes Bana birçok kez hakkettiğim kadar multu olmamı istediğini söyledin. correct 2. But still, this would mean that "you want me to be happy as much as I deserve it" - however, I think that the meaning of original sentence is "you want me to be happy because, as you said, I deserve it". In this case, could it be translated this way? Bana birçok kez bunu hakkettiğim için mutlu olmamı istediğini söyledin. correct

Thread: Reference of Possessive Pronoun

2959.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Oct 2012 Fri 11:35 pm   Quoting tomac Just have been pointed here by Abla What about this sentence?   Anne, kendisinin kıyafetini dolaptan aldı.   Would this mean the mother´s dress? Or would it be still someone else´s dress?   Yes, it would be.

Thread: eng to turk

2960.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Oct 2012 Fri 11:32 pm So which translation is correct? I am not sure.

Thread: eng to turk

2961.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Oct 2012 Fri 11:31 pm But this has a different meaning.

Thread: eng to turk

2962.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Oct 2012 Fri 11:30 pm Bana birçok kez, hakkettiğim için mutlu olmamı söyledin. Edited (10/12/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: eng to turk

2963.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Oct 2012 Fri 11:30 pm or

Thread: eng to turk

2964.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Oct 2012 Fri 11:27 pm   Quoting tomac Can I have a few questions about one sentence?   Many times you told me you want me to be happy as I deserve it Bana, birçok kez, hakkettiğim gibi mutlu olmamı istediğini söyledin   1. I think that "as I deserve it" means here "because I deserve it". Am I right about it? Yes 2. I think that "hakkettiğim gibi mutlu" means "as happy as I deserve it", and it has similar meaning to "hakketiğim derecede mutlu", "hakkettiğim kadar mutlu" - "happy in the degree in which I deserve it (to be happy)". Am I right? Yes 3. If I´m right about 1 & 2 - could the sentence above be translated as follows? Bana, birçok kez, bunu hakediyorsun diye mutlu olmamı istediğini söyledin. There is ambuguity in this sentence. Bana birçok kez hakkettiğim kadar mutlu olmamı söyledin. (Better)

Thread: English translation pelize

2965.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Oct 2012 Fri 11:12 pm   Quoting tomac Üzülme, Abla Actually, your translation made me think, if - when there are two or more "agents" which can be addressed in sentence using 3rd person, is there any way to disambiguate between them when using 3rd person suffix.   "kendi" can solve many mysteries for foreigners but common sense works fine for us. tomac liked this message

Thread: Tebrikler Avrupa!

2966.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Oct 2012 Fri 09:27 pm I wonder when they will give Bush a nobel peace prize.

Thread: Tebrikler Avrupa!

2967.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Oct 2012 Fri 09:24 pm If they gave EU a prize, I guess a disaster in Erope will happen soon http://listverse.com/2007/10/17/top-10-controversial-nobel-peace-prize-winners/

Thread: PROBLEMS WİTH SYRIA

2968.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Oct 2012 Fri 09:19 pm Nobody is innocent. Elisabeth and trip liked this message

Thread: Thinking in a Foreign Language

2969.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Oct 2012 Fri 09:17 pm   Quoting Abla People make better decisions when they think it over in a non-native tongue. A foreign language takes us further from the immediate intuitive system and into more rational reasoning.   http://news.uchicago.edu/article/2012/04/25/thinking-foreign-language-helps-economic-decision-making     I think same when I think in English too.   Abla liked this message

Thread: Turkish food

2970.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Oct 2012 Fri 09:15 pm   Quoting zeytinne you didn´ t answer my question.. or you think it´ s funny?   Of course it is funny. I can´t imagine anyone eating a dick.

Thread: English translation pelize

2971.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Oct 2012 Fri 08:18 pm   Quoting Abla     My Try:   Is This a Zoo, Am I a Monkey Or What?   Şahin Irmak got mad when he was fotographed while sitting in a Nişantası cafe with his girlfriend on the previous day.   Şahin Irmak was in a place called Hardal in Nişantaşı on the previous day. The famous actor who was deep in a conversation with his girlfriend was tensed when he noticed some reporters. Irmak shouted: "Why are you taking pictures of me? Is this a zoo, am I a monkey?" Later he took his girlfriend who tried to hide his face behind her hair and left.   Isn´t it ironic what he said?

Thread: Tebrikler Avrupa!

2972.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Oct 2012 Fri 08:15 pm   Quoting Abla   Nobel Barış Ödülü AB´ye verildi.     Meh...

Thread: Turkish food

2973.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Oct 2012 Thu 08:14 pm   Quoting zeytinne How is it called the meal made from a sheep/ goat male´ s dick from the south part of Turkey?   Yummmy...

Thread: Turkish Folk Poetry

2974.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Oct 2012 Tue 01:29 am Yürü Bre Hızır Paşa  Go bre Hızır Pasha Yürü bre Hızır Paşa Go bre Hızır Pasha Senin de çarkın kırılır Your wheel will be broken too Güvendiğin padişahın That padishah you trust O da bir gün devrilir One day he will be overthrown too Nemrut gibi Anka n´oldu What happened to Phoenix like Nimrod? Bir sinek havale oldu A fly was sent to him/it. Davamız mahşere kaldı Our case remained to the Judgement Day. Yarın bu senden sorulur This will be asked from you tomorrow. Şah´ı sevmek suç mu bana Is it a crime for me to love the Shah? Kem bildirdin beni Han´a You misinformed Khan about me. Can için yalvarmam sana I won´t beg you for my life Şehinşah bana darılır (If I do so) Shah of the shahs will be offended Hafid-i Peygamber´im has I am the real descendant of Messenger Gel Yezid Hüseyn´imi kes Come Yezid, cut my Huseyin Mansur´um beni dara as I am Mansur, hang me Ben ölünce il durulur When I die, city will calm down Ben Musa´yım sen Firavun  I am Moses, you are Pharaoh İkrarsız Şeytan-ı lain You, faithless cursed devil Üçüncü ölmem bu hain This is my third dying Pir Sultan ölür, dirilir Pir Sultan dies and arises. Pir Sultan Abdal basima liked this message

Thread: Turkish Folk Poetry

2975.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Oct 2012 Tue 12:30 am Bir Ayrılık Bir Yoksulluk Seperation and Poverty Vara vara vardım ol kara taşa Afterall I arrived at that black stone Hasret ettin beni kavim kardaşa You made me miss my people and brothers Sebep ne gözden akan kanlı yaşa What are the reasons for tears falling down from eyes Bir ayrılık bir yoksulluk bir ölüm Seperation, poverty and death. Nice sultanları tahttan indirdi They dethroned many sultans Nicesinin gül benzini soldurdu They made many flower-like skins wilt Nicelerin gelmez yola gönderdi They sent many people to the road with no turn Bir ayrılık bir yoksulluk bir ölüm Seperation, poverty and death Karacoğlan der ki kondum göçülmez Karacaoğlan says I settled, I can´t go. Acıdır ecel şerbeti içilmez The sherbet of death is bitter, it can´t be drunk Üç derdim var birbirinden seçilmez I have three troubles, not possible to choose one Bir ayrılık bir yoksulluk bir ölüm Seperation, poverty and death. Karacaoğlan     Edited (10/9/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/9/2012) by gokuyum basima and Abla liked this message

Thread: Turkish Folk Poetry

2976.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Oct 2012 Mon 07:28 pm Benden selam olsun Bolu Beyi´ ne Greetings from me to Lord of Bolu(a city) Benden selam olsun Bolu Beyi´ ne Greetings from me to Lord of Bolu Çıkıp su dağlara yaslanmalıdır. He must climb and lean on those mountains. Ok gıcırtısından kalkan sesinden Because of arrows´ creeks and voices of shields Dağlar seda verip seslenmelidir. Mountains must cry and yell Düşman geldi tabur tabur dizildi Enemies came and aligned in battalions Alnımıza kara yazı yazıldı. Bad omen appeared on our foreheads Tüfek icat oldu mertlik bozuldu After gun had been invented, bravery died Eğri kılıç kında paslanmalıdır. Scimiters mustn´t rust in their sheaths Köroğlu düşer mi yine sanından, Will Köroğlu befit his dignity again? Ayırır çoğunu er meydanından, He will seperate many from battlefield. Kırat köpüğünden , düşman kanından With foam of Kırat* and blood of enemy Çevrem dolup şalvar ıslanmalıdır.I must be surrounded and my shalwar must get wet. KÖROĞLU *Kırat: White Horse, name of the Köroğlu´s horse. This poem tells the fight of Köroğlu with cruel Lord of Bolu. He blinded Köroğlu´s father. And Köroğlu wants his revenge. But he is in disadvantage because men of lord of Bolu uses guns. But he and his men have scimiters. But he is still confident of glory.   Edited (10/9/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Hakkini helal et

2977.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Oct 2012 Sun 04:58 pm   Quoting Abla The more I think about this form of an apology the more I like it. The saying has its roots in Islamic teachings which AlphaF made clear above but in my opinion it is also psychologically very authentic.   1. The speaker admits that the listener´s rights have been violated. Not just feelings or pride but rights. He/she had the right to be be treated better.   2. Because it is his/her rights we are talking about it is completely up to him/her if he/she wants to forgive or not.   3. It doesn´t say forget, leave it to the past, such things happen now and then. It says make it halal. What is halal is not forbidden, not a sin, not something one has to blaim him/herself about. The speaker is actually asking the listener to clear the air from all bitterness.   I wonder if this saying is translated from Arabic (I never heard it but maybe our Arab members did) or if it is a pure Turkish output.  In Islam you have a right on your friends, family members, etc. And they have rights on you. And if you want someone to make it halal, you want his blessing. Other person can want it from you too.   Edited (10/7/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: T to E please^^

2978.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Oct 2012 Sun 01:51 am   Quoting insallah     Do you want me to ? Of course not. It is a way of expressing my apprecietion   Edited (10/7/2012) by gokuyum insallah liked this message

Thread: T to E please^^

2979.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Oct 2012 Sun 01:50 am Look  you are on my profile again, i know you can not abandon ( give me up ) me. Actually to change the position of "again" makes it better.

Thread: T to E please^^

2980.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Oct 2012 Sun 01:48 am   Quoting insallah   My try Look again you are on my profile, i know you can not abandon ( give me up ) me.     Correct. When will you forget Turkish, inshallah?

Thread: T to e please

2981.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Oct 2012 Sun 01:40 am   Quoting nifrtity Bakışlarında diyar diyar gezdiğin değil, Bir bakışıyla diyarına gittiğindir AŞK!.   It is difficult to understand. These facebook poets don´t know how to use Turkish properly. So I will translate what I understand :   Love is not a land which you wander around in her looks but it is a land which you go by one look of her.     Edited (10/7/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/7/2012) by gokuyum nifrtity liked this message

Thread: Turkish Folk Poetry

2982.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Oct 2012 Sun 01:26 am   Ferman Padişahın Dağlar bizimdir The order is padişah´s, the mountains are ours.   Kalktı göç eyledi Avşar elleri Avşar folk stood up and migrated Ağır ağır giden eller bizimdir This slowly going folk is ours. Arap atlar yakın eyler ırağı Arab horses make the distances shorter Yüce dağdan aşan yollar bizimdir The roads pass over the grand mountain are ours. Belimizde kılıcımız kirmani The swords on our belly are kirmani (a type of sword) Taşı deler mızrağımızın temreni The head of our spears bore stones Hakkımızda devlet etmiş fermanı The state has given the order about us Ferman padişahın dağlar bizimdir The order is padişah´s, mountains are ours Dadaloğlu’m yarın kavga kurulur Dadaloğlu tomorrow there will be a fight Öter tüfek davlumbazlar vurulur Guns will sing, paddle boxes will be hit Nice koç yiğitler yere serilir Many strong brave man will fall dead Ölen ölür kalan sağlar bizimdir Many will die but the remaining will be ours. Dadaloğlu   This is a very famous folk poem. It tells the difficult situation of Dadaloğlu´s tribe and their objection against the policy of the state which was against nomadism. They even want to take the risk of fighting against state not to obey the the order of padişah. Edited (10/7/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/7/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/7/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/7/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/9/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Ottoman Poetry

2983.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Oct 2012 Sun 12:54 am Here is a scene of Azerbaijanian movie about Seyyid Nesimi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ats2mQVqCNw&feature=related very interesting Edited (10/7/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Ottoman Poetry

2984.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Oct 2012 Sat 08:45 pm   Quoting Abla Quite risky...   Do they have the word repentance in their vocabulary, these Bektashis?   Yes it is. But don´t forget there is a symbolism in this poem. Kul Nesimi took his pen name influenced by Seyyid Nesimi( he was skinned alive because of his radical ideas on vahdet-i vücud). This is what I call risk Edited (10/6/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Ottoman Poetry

2985.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Oct 2012 Sat 08:14 pm Edited (10/6/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/6/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/6/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/6/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/24/2012) by gokuyum Edited (7/7/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Bektashi Jokes

2986.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Oct 2012 Sat 07:33 pm İtibar Prestige Softanın biri Bektaşinin önüne geçti: A fanatic stood in front of Bektashi: -Ey Erenler; iyisin, hoşsun, ilim irfan sahibisin; bir de oruç tutup, namaz kılsan, bizim nazarımızda da itibarın olur o zaman, dedi. " O dervish! You are good, nice and you have knowledge. If you fast and pray, then you will gain prestige in our eyes." Bektaşi gülümseyerek: Bektaşi smiling: -Sizin nazarınızda itibar kazanmak için, tanrı önündeki itibarımı zedeleyemem, dedi. "I can´t harm my prestige in front of God in order to gain prestige in your eyes." Edited (10/6/2012) by gokuyum Edited (12/17/2012) by gokuyum tunci liked this message

Thread: PROBLEMS WİTH SYRIA

2987.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Oct 2012 Fri 08:52 pm   Quoting AlphaF MADEM ÇIKTI TEZKERE; MECLİS GİTSİN ASKERE Başbakanımızın pek sevdiği bi laf var: Hafıza-i beşer nisyan ile maluldür.There is a saying, our prime minister loves a lot: Memory of human is disabled by forgetting. E başbakanımız ha bire “hafıza, beşer” filan deyince… İster istemez Hafız’ın oğlu Beşar geliyor insanın aklına. When our prime minister says hafıza (memory), beşer (human), unwillingly Beşar (the name of the son of Hafız Esad) comes to our minds. Hatırlayın, 3 sene önce… Durup dururken “Suriye sınırındaki mayınları acilen temizlememiz lazım” dediler mi? Dediler. Remember 3 years ago.. All of a sudden didn´t they say " We must immediately clean the mines on Syrian border" They said. “Günler torbaya mı girdi, niye acilen?” diye soranlara… “Ottowa Sözleşmesi var, en geç 3 seneye kadar temizlememiz şart” dediler mi? Dediler. Didn´t they say "There is Ottowa Agreement. It demands us to clean them at latest 3 years later" to the ones who had asked "Why is it so urgent to clean them?" They said. “Bu ne biçim Ottowa birader, niye illa Suriye sınırı? Mesela, niye İran sınırı değil? Suriye sınırındakiler mayın da, İran sınırındakiler karpuz mu?” diyenlere… “Faşist” dediler mi? Dediler. "What kind of Ottowa is this, why only Syrian border? Why not Iranian border? The ones on the syrian border are mines but the ones on the Iranian border, are they watermelons?" They said fascists to the ones who had said this. ..........       Edited (10/5/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/5/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/5/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/5/2012) by gokuyum nifrtity liked this message

Thread: PROBLEMS WİTH SYRIA

2988.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Oct 2012 Fri 08:30 pm   Quoting AlphaF MADEM ÇIKTI TEZKERE; MECLİS GİTSİN ASKERE Başbakanımızın pek sevdiği bi laf var: Hafıza-i beşer nisyan ile maluldür. E başbakanımız ha bire “hafıza, beşer” filan deyince… İster istemez Hafız’ın oğlu Beşar geliyor insanın aklına. Hatırlayın, 3 sene önce… Durup dururken “Suriye sınırındaki mayınları acilen temizlememiz lazım” dediler mi? Dediler. “Günler torbaya mı girdi, niye acilen?” diye soranlara… “Ottowa Sözleşmesi var, en geç 3 seneye kadar temizlememiz şart” dediler mi? Dediler. “Bu ne biçim Ottowa birader, niye illa Suriye sınırı? Mesela, niye İran sınırı değil? Suriye sınırındakiler mayın da, İran sınırındakiler karpuz mu?” diyenlere… “Faşist” dediler mi? Dediler. İhaleyi İsrail’e vermeye çalıştıkları ortaya çıktı mı? Çıktı. “Biz temizlesek olmaz mı?” diyenlere… “Paranın dini, milleti olmaz” diye akıl öğretip, “ırkçı” damgası yapıştırdılar mı? Yapıştırdılar. Sınırı temizleyene, sınırı 44 seneliğine verecekleri ortaya çıktı mı? Çıktı. “Toprağımızı niye veriyorsunuz, orası babanızın malı mı?” diye itiraz edenlere… “Adam masraf yapacak, masrafını çıkarmak için de organik tarım yapacak, win-win” dediler mi? Dediler. “Evini temizlemeye gelen gündelikçi kadına, 44 seneliğine kullansın diye balkonunu veriyor musun?” denilince… Mahkemeden dönüp, iptal edildi mi? Edildi. Ahali unuttu mu? Unuttu. Mayınları temizliycez ayaklarıyla “tampon bölge”yi “bu tarafa kuramayacakları” anlaşılınca… İngiliz ve Alman basınında, bangır bangır, “Türkiye, ordusunu Suriye’ye sokacak, sınırın öte tarafında tampon bölge oluşturacak” manşetleri atıldı mı? Atıldı. Dışişleri Bakanımız “sığınmacı sayısı 100 bin olursa, Suriye tarafında güvenli bölge oluşturmak lazım” dedi mi? Dedi. Başbakanımız, Gaziantep’teki yetmez ama evet mitinginde, “Sevgili kardeşlerim, zaman tünelinde geriye gidelim, ne yaptılar, sanal tehditler ürettiler, endişelere maruz bıraktılar, milleti korkuttular, biz ne yaptık, Esad kardeşimle oturduk, vizeleri kaldırdık, kapılarımızı açtık, bütün o tehditlerin, o korkuların ne kadar boş olduğu ortaya çıktı, kim kazandı, Gaziantep kazandı, vizyonumuzun en canlı tanığı Gaziantep’tir” demişti miydi mi? Demişti. Gaziantep’te bomba patladı mı? Patladı. Gaziantep’te patlayan bombanın… ABD’deki sözde düşünce kuruluşu Brookings’in “savaş oyunu”nda, adıyla sanıyla “Gaziantep bombası” olarak yer aldığı ortaya çıktı mı? Çıktı. Hazır, ahalimiz unutmuşken… Biz temizleyemiyoruz, mutlaka İsraillilerin temizlemesi gerekiyor denilen, Suriye sınırındaki mayınların bir bölümü Türk Silahlı Kuvvetleri tarafından sessiz sedasız temizlendi mi? Temizlendi. Suriye sınırımız taaa 877 kilometre uzunluğundayken, küçücük bi şerit, sadece 2-3 kilometrecik mi temizlendi yoksa? Hayret ama evet! Neresi orası yahu? Akçakale! Kaderin cilvesi işte, tam da “kafamızı bozmasınlar, sınırın öte tarafına iki-üç top mermisi düşüverir” diyen rahmetli Özal’ı kabrinden çıkardıkları gün… Sınırın bu tarafına top mermisi düştü mü? Düştü. “Hudut, şümul, miktar ve zamanı sayın hükümetimiz tarafından takdir edilmek kaydı”yla, tezkere çıktı mı? Çıktı. Ve, hâlâ deniyor ki: Bu tezkereyle ne yapılacak? Söylediler ya size kardeşim… Organik tarım.     Great article. Why don´t you translate it to English? Edited (10/5/2012) by gokuyum nifrtity liked this message

Thread: one word translation please

2989.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Oct 2012 Fri 12:53 am   Quoting insallah you  have found the answer , well done , thanks   always

Thread: one word translation please

2990.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Oct 2012 Fri 12:50 am "sik gibi kalmak" means to be shocked, not to be able to give an answer. nifrtity and insallah liked this message

Thread: one word translation please

2991.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Oct 2012 Fri 12:46 am   Quoting insallah No idea the word zik is written, if they wanted to say it would they not have just written sik ?   the sentence is zik gibi kaldin but I don´t think that helps   Anyway seems it is not important but thanks anyway. It is "sik". "sik gibi kadın" means very ugly woman.

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

2992.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Oct 2012 Fri 12:44 am   Quoting Abla Please correct my sentences.     1. The more the building shook, the more we held on. Bina ne kadar çok sarsıldıysa biz de o kadar çok tutunduk.   2. The more we saw, the less we could believe. Ne kadar çok şey gördükse o kadar daha az inanabildik.   3. The more they looked, the fewer things they found to retrieve. Ne kadar çok baktılarsa o kadar daha az kurtalacak şey buldular.   4. The more it rains the more serious the problems become. Yağmur yağdıkça sorunlar daha ciddi olacak.   5. I never seem to lose any weight no matter how hard I try. Ne kadar çok çalışırsam çalışayım hiç kilo veremem galiba.   6. Anyway, we’ve got to get to the airport on time, no matter what. Neyse, ne olursa olsun havaalanında zamanında olmalıyız.   7. You will be welcome no matter when you come. Ne zaman gelirsen gel hoş gelirsin.   8. Phone me when you arrive, no matter how late it is. Ne kadar geç olursa olsun ulaşınca bana telefon et.   9. We were playing hide and seek and we couldn’t find him wherever we looked. Saklambaç oyunuyorduk ve onu nerede aradıysak da bulamadık.   10. I shall sell my computer to whoever wants it. Bilgısayarımı  onu isteyen herhangi birine satacağım.   11. No matter how much cats fight there always seem to be plenty of kittens. Kedıler ne kadar çok dövüşürse dövüşsün hep daha çok yavru olduğu görülüyor.

Thread: one word translation please

2993.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Oct 2012 Fri 12:37 am   Quoting insallah well i have seen it written in a sentence so maybe you should tell the people writting turkish mags   zik -- sik -- penis  maybe?

Thread: E to T please short

2994.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Oct 2012 Tue 10:14 pm   Quoting harp00n     Besin zincirinde zeytinin işlevi nedir ?   To be eaten? Milacik and ayse-eski liked this message

Thread: Pure beauty

2995.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Oct 2012 Tue 10:03 pm Please someone kill me right this moment ikibir liked this message

Thread: Pure beauty

2996.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Oct 2012 Tue 08:52 pm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l10m70hxT9Y   I can happily die listening this song   Sezen Aksu – Biliyorsun Sezen Aksu - You know Albüm Adı : Ağlamak Güzeldir The name of the albume: Crying is beautiful   Hayat bazen öyle insafsız ki Küçük bir boşluğundan yakalar Hissettirmez en zayıf anında Seni ta yüreğinden yaralar Life is sometimes so cruel, It catches you in a small time of your unawareness Without making you notice in your weakest moment It wounds your heart deeply.   Ellerin kolların bağlansada Başında kasırgalar kopsada Sen tüm gücünle karşı koysanda Seni acımasız sevdaya salar Even if your hands and arms are tied Even if storms break on your head Even if you struggle with your all power It sends you to cruel love.     Sende benim kadar gerçekleri görüyorsun Beraber olamayız benim gibi biliyorsun Bir başka dünyanın insanısın yavrucağım Sen kendi dünyanın toprağında büyüyorsun You see the facts as much as I do We can´t be together you know as I do You are a person of another world my darling You grow on your own world´s soil.   Haklısın biraz geç karşılaştık Oysa hiç konuşmadan anlaştık Bazı şeyler var ki söylenmiyor Biz senle sözleri susarak aştık You are right, we met a little bit late But without talking we got along. There are sometings not possible to say We went beyond words being quite   İnsan acılarla kıvransa da Ve o aşkta bir daha doğsa da Dünyasını yeniden kursa da Düşler ve gerçekler ayrı ayrı yaşar Even if man suffers in pains Even if he reborns in that love again Even if he founds his world again Dreams and facts live seperately.   Sende benim kadar gerçekleri görüyorsun Beraber olamayız benim gibi biliyorsun Bir başka dünyanın insanısın yavrucağım Sen kendi dünyanın toprağında büyüyorsun You see the facts as much as I do We can´t be together you know as I do You are a person of another world my darling You grow on your own world´s soil. Edited (10/3/2012) by gokuyum ikibir, Aida krishan, slavica, harp00n and nifrtity liked this message

Thread: ADJUSTMENT OF EGYPT

2997.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Sep 2012 Sat 07:33 pm   Quoting AlphaF Egyptian President Mursi demonstrates how he will adjust Egypt to fit the new world order, in a meeting with his Australian counterpart.   http://video.haberturk.com/haber/video/bazi-ayarlamalar-yapti/67319            We all do that kind of adjustments. It is a part of being human.

Thread: e to t

2998.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Sep 2012 Fri 01:17 pm What a weird excuse! meh.

Thread: T2E please

2999.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Sep 2012 Fri 01:14 pm   Quoting Abla     My Try:   Did you go to your home? Is everything all right? Is it all over? Which one do you think is harder, loving or being loved? I liked Ana from the very beginning. I loved her but I couldn´t get her. Do you think this is so easy? It was just wrong place, wrong time, wrong people. If one of these was different...but it wasn´t. Maybe it was what was predetermined by the destiny, but still it was very painful.   Abla, your understanding level of Turkish is really high. You are really an advanced student. jolanaze, nifrtity and ahmet_a1b2 liked this message

Thread: Absurd news from the Globe

3000.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Sep 2012 Tue 08:14 pm   Quoting si++ From: here Turkish divers ´rescue´ blow-up sex doll from sea (Reuters) - Turkish rescue workers retrieved an inflatable sex doll from the Black Sea after police were notified by panicked residents who mistook it for a woman´s body floating offshore, Milliyet newspaper reported on Sunday.   Police cordoned off a wide stretch of beach in northern Samsun province and sent a team of divers into the water to rescue what appeared to be a drowning woman, it said.   The team quickly discovered it was in fact a blow-up doll, which they deflated before throwing in the garbage, the daily said.   It was not clear where the blow-up doll had came from. The Black Sea is a key tourism destination for Turks and also sees busy international maritime shipping traffic.       I live in Samsun. I would want to help

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

3001.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Sep 2012 Sun 06:31 pm   Quoting Abla Would someone please look at my translation attempts?     What would you want to do if you knew you could not fail? Başarısız olamayacağını bilsen ne yapmak isterdin?     If someone’s underwear was showing would you tell her? Birinin iç çamaşırı gözükse ona söyler mıydın?     What would you do if you found the wallet of the next door neighbour you hated? Nefret ettiğin komşunun cüzdanını bulsan ne yapardın?     If you were on holiday and lost your passport would you know what to do? Tatildeyken pasaportunu kaybetsen ne yapacağını bilir miydin?     If you couldn’t stop thinking of a girl wouldn’t you text her? Bir kızı düşünmeyi bırakamasan ona bir mesaj çekmez miydin?     Where would you bury your treasure if you had some? Bir hazinen olsa onu nereye gömerdin?

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

3002.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Sep 2012 Sun 06:29 pm   Quoting Abla Some indirect questions just for fun. May I ask?   1. I wonder who built that enormous bridge. Kimin o kocaman köprüyü bina inşa ettiğini merak ediyorum.   2. I want to find out what Brazil is like. Brazilya’nın nasıl olduğunu öğrenmek istiyorum.   3. I can’t remember if Boccaccio wrote The Decameron. Boccaccio’nun Decameron’u yazıp yazmadığını hatırlayamıyorum.   4. Can you tell me how you do it? Onu nasıl yaptığını anlatabilir misin?   5. I’d like to know who you met at the party. Kiminle partide buluştuğunu bilmek istiyorum.   6. I wonder how long you have been waiting for me. Ne kadar zamandır beni bekliyorsun acaba?   7. Nobody cares what happened to them. Onlara ne olduğu kimsenin umurunda değil.   8. Can you tell me how important that meeting is to the company? Bu toplantının şirket için ne kadar önemli olduğunu bana anlatabilir misin?   9. Nobody remembers when the film was produced. Kimse filmin ne zaman yapıldığını bilmiyor.   10. I don’t know if they have flown an ultralight, too. Çok hafif bir uçak da uçup uçmadıklarını bilmiyorum.   11. I can’t remember what it is called in English. İngilizcesinin ne olduğunu hatırlamıyorum./ İngilizce nasıl denildiğini hatırlamıyorum.   12. I’d like to know if people should be allowed to smoke in public places. İnsanların umumi yerlerde sigara içmesine izin verilmesinin gerekip gerekmediğini bilmek isterdim.   13. Could you tell me where the nearest bank is please? Lütfen, en yakın bankanın nerede olduğunu söyleyebilir misiniz?   14. Do you know when the last train is on Saturday night? Cumartesi günü en son trenin ne zaman olduğunu biliyor musunuz?   15. Have you any idea how much two tickets cost? İki biletin fiyatının ne olduğu konusunda bir fikriniz var mı?   16. Would you mind telling me why you can’t come in to work? İçeri çalışmaya neden gelemeyeceğini anlatır mısın?

Thread: Who Is the best?

3003.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Sep 2012 Sat 11:23 pm   Quoting nifrtity More Turkish singers I was listen to them But I want who is the best in Turkey I was listen to Murat Boz Emre aydın Melih Görgün Yakup Ekin Aslı Güngör Teoman Barış Akarsu   nifrtity liked this message

Thread: Turkish vs Azeri

3004.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Sep 2012 Sat 11:21 pm   Quoting freedquaker I agree with pretty much everything said in this thread... Here are a few of my thoughts... Turkish (Türkçe) and Azeri (Azerice or Azeri Türkçesi) are basically the same language but different dialects. Their mutual intelligibility is fairly high, especially in the areas closer to Azerbaycan. However, Some people may still have a hard time understanding Azeri, especially due to the differences in vocabulary and accent. But even those people will start to pick up the Azeri dialect pretty quickly after being exposed to Azeri for a few weeks. As a fluent speaker of English, and partially Arabic, it´s fairly easy for me to spot the vocabulary differences in Azeri, especially due to Persian and Russian influence, although an average person will have a harder time. My mother, for example, never had a problem with the grammar, and she instantly connected with the language since it doesn´t sound to her any different from another Turkish dialect although she had a tough time understanding the vocabulary and the details of the conversation. She has never gone through the formal linguistic education that I´d gone through, so I had to kind of train her for a few days. But once she got this through, she was much more aware of the similarities, and were already coping with 50% of the nuisances. In some sense, Azeri Turkish is more authentic than Turkish of Turkey... For example, the "accusative" dative of "sen" is "sana" in Modern Turkish, while it is "sene" in Azeri, which is technically the correct one. There are several uses in grammar, with the influence under Istanbul Turkish that changed, which I´d argue not so authentic, but sounds and looks better after all. In my humble opinion, All Turkic Languages are technical marvels, and it is an invaluable joy to learn and teach them! Just a small correction for learners.

Thread: E2T please

3005.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Sep 2012 Sat 01:44 am   Quoting tomac My try as learner:   Don´t worry, it´s very clear for me that I somehow am disturbing your plans and your busy life. Merak etme, bir şekilde planlarına ve meşgul hayatına engel olduğum benim için çok açık.   Do your things*, I don´t want to be one problem more for you. İşine bak, senin için bir daha sorun olmak istemiyorum.   * I changed "Do your things" to "look after your affairs", and tried to translate it   It´s short text but I´m still not sure about it. I´d recommend you to wait, hopefully someone can check this and post correct translation.     Edited (9/22/2012) by gokuyum tomac liked this message

Thread: e to t short

3006.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Sep 2012 Fri 08:33 pm   Quoting tristerecuerdos hello would someone translate these sentences/phrases below? i´d appreciate it.  1. it is charging right now, we can talk.  Şimdi şarj oluyor, konuşabiliriz.   2. I don´t know what to say.  Ne diyeceğimi bilmiyorum.   3. I´m bored. Sıkıldım.   thanks in advance.

Thread: very very short message turkish -english

3007.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Sep 2012 Fri 10:56 am   Quoting keçi a quick question doesn´t dilerim mean : I would say so OR It seems to me that...   dilemek  "to wish" dilerim means "I wish"  I translated it as "I hope" in this context.

Thread: very very short message turkish -english

3008.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Sep 2012 Fri 10:43 am   Quoting keçi can anyone help?   nasılsınız dilerim iyisin ben bildiğin gibi bir hafta oldu çalışıyoruz sabah 7h de  acıyorum ve bir gün gelip görmeni istiyorum     thank you     How are you? I hope you are fine. As you know we have been working for a week. I open it (the shop?) at 7 am and I want you to come and see one day.

Thread: E to T please

3009.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Sep 2012 Fri 10:01 am   Quoting tomac My try at other sentences:   2. I was travel with it to an imagine world far a way from that cruel real life I can travel ("I can move myself") with it to an imaginary world, far away from the cruelty of real life, Bunla, hayalı bir dünyaya, gerçek hayatın zulmünden, 3. Far away from that fake people with lie masks ... far away from fake people who mask things with lies, şeyleri yalanlarla saklayan vefasız insanlardan 4. Far away from that sadness memmories ...far away from (my) sad memories kötü hatıralarımdan uzak kendimi taşıyabilirim.   I´ve moved "I can travel" and "far away" parts (underlined) to the end of the sentence. So the whole sentence looks like this: Bunla, hayalı bir dünyaya, gerçek hayatın zulmünden, şeyleri yalanlarla saklayan vefasız insanlardan şeyleri yalanlarla saklayan vefasız insanlardan kötü hatıralarımdan uzak kendimi taşıyabilirim.   Hopefully someone can correct my attempt   Bununla, gerçek hayatın acımasızlığından, şeyleri yalanlarla maskeleyen vefasız insanlardan ve kötü hatıralarımdan uzak hayali bir dünyaya yolculuk edebilirim.   tomac liked this message

Thread: IS THIS CORRECT?? E to T please

3010.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Sep 2012 Thu 05:20 pm   Quoting Milacik England is nicer, come rather here! İngiltere daha güzel, en iyisi buraya gel!

Thread: t-e please. thanks.

3011.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Sep 2012 Thu 05:14 pm   Quoting Abla     My Try:   In the dirty film our Prophet is shown as a bloodsucker who is bound to the sanguinary world. Share the ignoble material and protect Turkey from falling asleep.   It was a stupid movie, but killing innocent people....

Thread: A question about Turkish and influences from elsewhere

3012.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Sep 2012 Thu 05:10 pm   Quoting AlphaF     Ottoman literature (so called Divan Edebiyatı is mostly junk, it simply lacks enticement for modern man...   Excuse me please. I didn´t know you were such an expert. As a modern man it attracts me. But anyways who am I to argue this with you? Just a doctorate student studying Turk-İslam literature. Sorry. Edited (9/20/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: E to T please

3013.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Sep 2012 Thu 12:58 am   Quoting Henry Here is my attempt as a learner for the last sentence. I love music because it gives me a little pleasure for all my pain. Müziği seviyorum çünkü bütün dertim için bana biraz zevki verir. Hopefully a Turk will correct my attempt, or give another more natural Turkish version    Müziği seviyorum çünkü bütün dertlerim için bana biraz teselli verir.   Henry and nifrtity liked this message

Thread: E to T please

3014.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Sep 2012 Thu 12:57 am   Quoting tomac The most helpful thing that makes me forget my problems and pains is listening to music. My attempt at the first sentence as a learner. I changed it a bit to something like: From the things which make it possible to forget my problems and pains, the most useful (of them) is listening to music. Sorun ve acılarımı unutmayı mümkün kılan şeylerden, en faydalısı müzik dinlemektir.   Hopefully, a Turk or one of other fellow learners here can come up with the correct version of this sentence     Brilliant.

Thread: A question about Turkish and influences from elsewhere

3015.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Sep 2012 Wed 07:31 pm   Quoting AlphaF     The rightfully ignored part of Ottoman legacy are worhless poems (elite junk) in Arabic and Persian languages, with no universal value what so ever. If you think literatures other than folk literature are elite junk, you should know this that our whole modern literature is elite junk too. Ottoman literature was not a junk, you can see it if you observe it. You have prejudgements.

Thread: E to T please

3016.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Sep 2012 Wed 02:26 am   Quoting nifrtity The most thing make me forget my problems and Pains when I listen to music I was travel with it to an imagine world far a way from that cruel real life Far away from that fake people with lie masks Far away from that sadness memmories I love music that is my pains treat thanks in advance Nifrity if you use a verb in a sentence, don´t use "am, is ,are, was, were" unless it is continous. I was travel with it. (wrong)     I travelled with it. (Past tense) (correct)                                              I was travelling with it (Past continous) (correct)   I was see it. (wrong)              I saw it. (past tense) (correct)                                             I was seeing it. (past continous) (correct)     You were come (wrong)        You came (past tense) (correct)                                            You were coming ( past continous) (correct)   I am help her (wrong)           I help her. (present tense) (correct)                                            I am helping her. (present continous) (correct)     nifrtity liked this message

Thread: Forming nouns in Turkish langauge

3017.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Sep 2012 Wed 01:39 am   Quoting hma1962 Hello How can I form a noun froma verb in Turkish? is there something like adding (ing) in English? or only removing (k) from (mak/mek) like okumak/okuma yazmak/yazma thanks for you help. 1.-me, -mek, -iş  using these suffixes you can create noun verbs. 2. -an, -ası, -mez, -ar, -dik, -ecek, -miş  using these suffixes you can create adjective verbs and you can use them as nouns.   hma1962 and nifrtity liked this message

Thread: Ukrainian and Swedish women named as the world´s most beautiful

3018.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Sep 2012 Wed 01:35 am Ben güzele güzel demem, güzel benim olmadıkça

Thread: What are you listening now?

3019.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Sep 2012 Wed 01:33 am Islak Islak - Barış Akarsu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kPLYS5fjEU He sings this song better than Cem Karaca.

Thread: E - T

3020.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Sep 2012 Wed 01:12 am Sometimes I discuss all of them. So what am I? An alien? Henry liked this message

Thread: What´s your favorite town / city in Turkey ?

3021.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Sep 2012 Wed 01:10 am I don´t know any other city than Samsun. So it is Samsun for me

Thread: What does this mean in turkish? [one line very short]

3022.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Sep 2012 Wed 12:59 am   Quoting traveladdict  ucaga binmeden önce bana msj at hava limanında inincede beni ara    Thank you   Send me a message before you get in the plane in airport and call me when you get off. Edited (9/19/2012) by gokuyum traveladdict liked this message

Thread: A question about Turkish and influences from elsewhere

3023.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Sep 2012 Wed 12:56 am   Quoting Abla     But still I think the language reform of the 20th century was for the good. You see, foreign words are not just words, in great numbers they also weaken the structure of the language. Turkish has a developed system of word formation. Derivation and compounding are the original means of increasing vocabulary. Your evaluator suggested for you to use a derived word instead a loanword.   Maybe you are right if we look at the subject through the perspective of a linguist. We didn´t only borrow words, we also borrowed some structures and those were totally not suitable with Turkish grammar structure. But as a literature student, I observe that language reform weakened variaty and the richness of the Turkish language and it also cut our all ties with a 600 years of Ottoman literature tradition. This was a very big sacrafice and it was not necessary. If you observe Ottoman literature you will witness the perfection of a language whose main goal was to express love in the most beautiful manner. I think we need that beauty.   Edited (9/19/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: şşşşiiitttt - what is this used for?

3024.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Sep 2012 Sat 10:00 am   Quoting ikicihan hey, look here, pay attention to what i am saying...   and be quiet. ahmet_a1b2 liked this message

Thread: 15th century

3025.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Sep 2012 Tue 05:36 pm http://www.amazon.com/Suleiman-The-Magnificent-1520-1566/dp/1245108190/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1347373981&sr=8-2-fkmr0&keywords=magnicifient+Suleiman   http://www.amazon.com/Suleiman-The-Magnificent-Sultan-East/dp/1443731447/ref=pd_sim_sbs_b_4   http://www.amazon.com/Suleiman-Magnificent-Andre-Clot/dp/0863564984/ref=pd_sim_sbs_b_4   http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=ottoman%20history&sprefix=ottoman%20history&rh=n%3A283155%2Ck%3Aottoman%20history Edited (9/11/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: punctuation?

3026.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Sep 2012 Sun 07:23 am   Quoting seheryildizidir Dear Forum/TLC Family I was using an online translator to find out how to say;"what is wrong with you?" in (T) of course. reply= senin neyin var (using the question mark) reply without question mark= neyin var Why is this and should I be using these english puntuations at all for (T) I also notice with the same issue of punctuation as above (?) question mark. translator for "what are you thinking?" this case is a bit different in that with or without the question mark teh spelling did not change but I noticed a shift pattern in the way the translator would pronounce (ne) ne düşünüyorsun without the question mark the ne was soft with the slight (e sound) but with the question mark the ne(almost na) became a sharp (ney) a bit forceful. Is this change in the soft and hard sound becasue of the question mark or is my translator not trustworthy. I take it that when I type a english phrase that it automatically arrarnges it into (T) format because of the subject verb being different in English. Is this true and has anyone used google translate to see if it is properly formatting words/phrases? Does anyone have a reliable translation resourse (tried and tested?) I liek this translator because it also give you the different verbs and how they are used which helps a lot (IMO) I´m a newbie as yo can already tell by my line of questioning but any information or a nugde in the right direction would be most appreciated. I did not want to burden the board with this matter but there is no option for search within the forum or else I could have dug a little deeper on my own. I feel this is a trust worthy site and would rather get my imformation from a site as such instead of hear-say. Thank you for your time and help with this matter. Thank you all in advance for your kindness and help. Teşekkür ederim, hoşçakal Şirin Question mark doesn´t change prononciation.We always put it when we ask a question. It has same usage as in English.    seheryildizidir liked this message

Thread: How do you say in Turkish...(very short)

3027.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Sep 2012 Sun 07:16 am   Quoting traveladdict How do you say in turkish: Is this too early for you to come and meet me?      cok tesekkuler ederim   Bu gelip benimle tanışman için çok mu erken?   nifrtity liked this message

Thread: gülebilmeyi

3028.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Sep 2012 Sat 08:00 pm   Quoting ms.yousra thanks alot gokuyum but if there is a link to post that explain this se and the meyi part can you post it please      I am not good at finding links but I am sure abla can help you.   ms.yousra liked this message

Thread: gülebilmeyi

3029.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Sep 2012 Sat 07:52 pm   Quoting ms.yousra & why hayal etsem not etim      It is a condition. He always cries when he imagines to be able to laugh with her. So to express that condition we use -se.   Edited (9/8/2012) by gokuyum Edited (9/8/2012) by gokuyum ms.yousra liked this message

Thread: gülebilmeyi

3030.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Sep 2012 Sat 07:31 pm   Quoting ms.yousra     Whenever I imagine to be able to laugh with you, I cry. ms.yousra liked this message

Thread: Is Turkish language hard ?

3031.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Sep 2012 Sat 07:22 pm   Quoting ms.yousra lucky you for some we need to study       I study too. I am learning Arabic. It is not easy to learn but common vocabulary makes it easier. Edited (9/8/2012) by gokuyum nifrtity, Hend Yehya and ms.yousra liked this message

Thread: gülebilmeyi

3032.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Sep 2012 Sat 07:17 pm   Quoting Abla Sorry, gokuyum. You said it.   Yours is appreciated too.

Thread: gülebilmeyi

3033.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Sep 2012 Sat 07:08 pm   Quoting ms.yousra gülebilmeyi Now I understand that gül = smile                                   ebil= can  but the rest I couldnt get it  explanation is needed to be able to laugh - it is accusative gül-ebil-me-y-i   gül: to laugh ebil: be able to me : to (infinitive) y: buffer letter i : accusative   Edited (9/8/2012) by gokuyum ms.yousra liked this message

Thread: Best way to learn Turkish language

3034.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Sep 2012 Sat 06:55 pm   Quoting greeneyedblond Merhaba! I am trying to learn Turkish, but for some reason I cannot join chats anymore? I e-mailed the Admins but have not heard back yet. I would be grateful for all help.  There is a problem with chatroom.

Thread: T to E please :) :)

3035.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Sep 2012 Sat 06:53 pm   Quoting deli      Be positive, I will be a help to you, Whenever you I come to Turkey i will help you find work, dont worry please, I will do the best I can for you my try

Thread: Is Turkish language hard ?

3036.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Sep 2012 Sat 06:51 pm   Quoting angelicbeauty really!! what´s your mother language??     Turkish Hend Yehya, nifrtity and ms.yousra liked this message

Thread: E to T please

3037.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Sep 2012 Sat 06:51 pm   Quoting Inscrutable Camide cemaatle Sabah namazı kıldım. I performed Sabah namaz in congregation in the Cami. Thank you It is correct.

Thread: E to T please

3038.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Sep 2012 Sat 06:47 pm   Quoting Inscrutable Uzun zamandır Türkçe konuşmadım. I have´nt spoke Turkish for a long time. Thanks

Thread: Is Turkish language hard ?

3039.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Sep 2012 Sat 06:46 pm   Quoting angelicbeauty Hey am from Egypt ^_^ so my mother language is Arabic i will start turkish language on tuesday so i want to know if the turkish language will be hard and i want to know how to study this language i´ve been watching turkish series for 2 years and its pretty coooool i want your advice ppl   It was not difficult to learn for me   lana- liked this message

Thread: What should be taught as a second foreign language in Turkish schools?

3040.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Sep 2012 Tue 09:50 am They generally teach us German as the second foreign language. I don´t understand this. What is the use of it? I think they should teach Arabic. I accept English as the language of western civilisation, Arabic as the language of İslam civilisation. We should learn both of them. Because we are under the influence of both of them. Teaching German has no purpose.

Thread: t to e one word

3041.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Sep 2012 Sun 08:56 am   Quoting Abla     -i must be a possessive suffix here.   ´There is not a thing of his, nothing that belongs to him´, right? You are right but it can also mean "He is okay"

Thread: Turkish > English. A short translation plz

3042.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Sep 2012 Sun 08:53 am   Quoting Tazx1 Dear native Turkish member, I am reading a short story from Anton Chekhov ... translated into Turkish.  I have come accross a short passage [3 sentences] that I simply cannot understand.  Can a native speaker have a look at the following and kindly render the translationin English ... explainig [if possible] if there is an idiom .... I don´t know whther this passge may need some FURTHER PUNCTUATION to make it comprehensible to an idiot like me.  I am specially baffled by the use of ´geldikleri´ repeatedly !!     >> Nikola ile ailesinden daha ilk geldikleri gün nefret etmişti.  Buna en büyük etken ise geldikleri ilk gün gerçekten iğrenc olan eve iğrenerek bakmaları olmuştu. Fiokla’ya göre onlar Moskova’dan geldikleri  için evlerini küçümsemişlerdi. <<   He/she hated Nikola and his/her family since the first day they came. The biggest reason of it was that they had disgustingly looked at the really gross house. In Fiokla´s opinion they underestimated their house becuse they had come from Moscow.   If context ıs needed, I can add few more sentences at the begınıng !!  Çevrisini için sabırsızla bekleceğim, lütfen.   Tazx1

Thread: English 2 Tukish :)

3043.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Sep 2012 Sat 06:20 pm Henry you rock. Bravo. Brilliant explanations. Henry and nemanjasrb liked this message

Thread: Changing from siz to sen

3044.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Sep 2012 Sat 07:25 am   Quoting Abla Is there a phrase to use when you suggest someone being on first name terms? I know the verb is biriyle senli benli olmak or biriyle samimi olmak but how is it suggested in a civilized way?   senli benli olmak: Benimle hemen senli benli oldu.  This is not always a good behavior in Turkish. So "senli benli olmak" is not always a good thing.   samimi olmak: Onunla çok samimiyiz.   If we want to talk openly: We say: Samimi olmam gerekirse....

Thread: Typical Tourist Scams in Turkey

3045.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Sep 2012 Sat 07:12 am Not all Turks are same. I live like a saint stumpy liked this message

Thread: T to e 2

3046.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Sep 2012 Sat 07:01 am   Quoting ayse-eski Dilsiz değildir suskunluk, çok şey anlatır anlayana... Silence isn´t dumb, it tells many things to one who understands. Kelimelerin anlatamadıklarını haykırır aslında... In fact it shouts the things which words can´t tell. Bir kaçış değildir suskunluk, bir bakıştan çok daha fazlasıdır... Silence is not an escape, it is much more than just a look. Sessiz çığlıkların bir adım ötesidir.. It is one step further than silent cries. hayata ola öfken, insalara ola kırgınlığın ve daha nicesi saklıdır içinde sükunetin. Rest çekmenin ´asil´ halidir...!!!  Your anger towards life, your disappointment towards people, and more are hidden in the silence. It is the noble form of protesting.     jolanaze, kiz_kiz and Abla liked this message

Thread: AUGUST 30

3047.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Sep 2012 Sat 06:51 am   Quoting Abla     Your question itself. I can´t get it down my throat. I guess it is a cultural thing.   But I admit I am not well informed and maybe I should read something. Atatürk was not among my contacts but maybe I could add him there. Atatürk is a national hero. Some thinks he was a dictator and a non-believer. But most of the Turkish people still love him and will love.

Thread: t to e 3

3048.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Sep 2012 Sat 06:45 am   Quoting Abla Quote:ayse-eski NE KADAR İYİ OLURSAN OL DAHA İYİSİNİ İSTERLER AMA KÖTÜ OLURSAN KENDİLERİ İYİLİK YAPMAK İSTERLER   My Try:   No matter how good you are they want something better. But if you are evil they want to turn themselves into something good do favors.

Thread: PLS !from turkish to english

3049.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Sep 2012 Sat 06:42 am   Quoting venus73 "Sevmeyene karınca yük, sevene filler karınca. Dağı bile taşır insan âşık olup, inanınca..!" Even an ant is a burden for who doesn´t love, elephants are like ants for who loves. A person can even carry a mountain if he loves and believes.   Edited (9/1/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Bektashi Jokes

3050.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Aug 2012 Wed 04:25 am Sofu Bektaşi´ye İslam´ın şartını sorar.  -Birdir der Bektaşi.  Sofu: -Daha İslam´ın şartının 5 olduğunu bilmiyorsun, bir de bilimden dem vuruyorsun deyince, Bektaşi: - Îmanım, haç ve zekatı siz kaldırdınız, oruçla namazı da biz kaldırdık, geriye kelimeyi şahadetten başka ne kaldı ? A fanatic asked Bektashi the conditions of İslam. Bektashi said "one". Fanatic said "You even don´t know the conditions of İslam are 5, but you are talking about it. Bektashi said: "My friend, you removed pilgrimage and alms, we removed fasting and praying. What is left other than confession of faith?"   Note: Bektashi criticise fanatics because of them being mingy. Fanatic is a character who seems very religious but very mingy too. In Bektashi jokes Bektashis always criticise this character.

Thread: A Scandal in Finland

3051.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Aug 2012 Wed 04:03 am   Quoting barba_mama     lol... so when you think of a country that adores a dead statesman, the first country that comes to mind is North Korea...while posting on a Turkish forum. Made me laugh If you had such a hero, you would adore too I have another hero other than Atatürk too. Here she is, Rachel Corrie. She was an American and not a statesman.   Edited (8/29/2012) by gokuyum caliptrix liked this message

Thread: Bektashi Jokes

3052.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Aug 2012 Sat 08:04 pm   Quoting Abla I came across some Bektashi jokes which are part of Turkish folklore. I was amazed.   http://bektashiorder.com/nodequeue/1?page=1 http://www.nicholaswhyte.info/wordpress/?p=3806   They are so bold. And their message goes straight into the core of Islamic teachings. I wonder if someone regards them as blasphemy? Well, I don´t. I think the humouristic point is especially in being well informed about the topic and still turning it upside down.   What is the connection between Bektashi order and this story tradition? Are these sufis such humoristic people or is it more like making fun of their beliefs?   I love Bektaşi way. The source of their humor is criticising the hypocracy of fanatics and accepting their own weaknesses. They are humanists. They easily make fun of themselves. They don´t fast, they don´t pray but they believe God will forgive them. They don´t think they should be afraid of God. Because they believe God is the most merciful.They know being a good person is more important than performing religious rituals. Performing them doesn´t make everybody a better person. They criticise people who behave like a religious person but don´t help even their neighbours. tunci liked this message

Thread: e to t

3053.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Aug 2012 Sat 01:58 pm   Quoting dancerdee Please if someone could help me translate.   "My schedule is flexible. Please tell me when would be good to come visit you. I will be in Turkey until 6 or 8 November." Benim takvimim esnek. Lütfen seni ne zaman ziyarete gelmemin uygun olacağını söyle. 6 ya da 8 kasım´a kadar Türkiye´de olacağım. Thank you.  This will be really helpful.

Thread: Turkish champ Galatasaray starts new season with trophy

3054.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Aug 2012 Mon 08:27 pm We get used to beat Fenerbahçe. Bad luck left us at last. tunci liked this message

Thread: T TO E PLEASE

3055.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Aug 2012 Mon 05:38 am   Quoting noha naim hi everyone..........i need help can someone translate this song please.......... Seher yeli bizim ele gidersen Nazlı yâre küstüğümü söyleme Ne hallere düştüğümü sorarsa o yâr beni sorarsa Bağrıma taş bastığımı söyleme O morning wind! If you go to my land Don´t say to my love that I am upset with her. If she asks me and how I am Don´t say I hug a stone (instead of her). Ağrılar baş tutar ahuzardayım Mansur gibi çekilmişim dardayım gezer dolaşırım bilmem nerdeyim Deli deli estiğimi yâre söyleme I have headaches, I am moaning and crying Like Mansur I am hanging on a gallows tree I wander and travel but I don´t know where I am Don´t say to my love that I blow crazily (like a wind) Belki birgün çıkar gelir diyorlar Gönül muradını alır diyorlar Seven seveni bulur diyorlar Umudumu kestiğimi söyleme yâre söyleme   They say maybe she will come one day They say heart gets what it desires They say lover finds lover Don´t say to my love that I gave up hope.     Edited (8/6/2012) by gokuyum Edited (8/6/2012) by gokuyum Deli Kiz and noha naim liked this message

Thread: Sarah Geronimo \"Felt So Right\"

3056.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Aug 2012 Sun 12:24 pm   Quoting Scott88 Could you please translate this amazing lyrics of the song "Felt So Right" to Turksih please? I love you I don´t know what else to say ´cause I long for you more each day I need you I want to feel your embrace And have a chance to touch your face Seni seviyorum Başka ne söylemeliyim bilmiyorum çünkü seni her gün biraz daha özlüyorum Sana ihtiyacım var beni kucaklamanı hissetmek istiyorum ve yüzüne dokunmak için bir şans istiyorum I was lost and alone But you showed me the way Now I call you my own Things will never be the same Kayıp ve yalnızdım Ama bana yolu gösterdin Şimdi seni benimki diye çağırabilirim Hiçbir şey aynı olmayacak How could I´ve known You will hold me close so tenderly Even though I´m alone I can feel your arms enfolding me And that love, became mine in just one night When you held me tight Oooh... it felt so right Nasıl bilebilirdim Beni o kadar şefkatle tutacağını Yalnız olsam da Hissedebiliyorum beni saran kollarını Ve o aşk, bir gecede benim oldu Beni sıkıca tuttuğunda Ahhh... çok iyiydi.   I feel you You´re always here in my heart It´s where I´ve kept you since we fell apart Seni hissediyorum Hep burada kalbimdesin Ayrıldığımızdan beri seni tuttuğum yerdesin. [ Lyrics from: http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/s/sarah_geronimo/felt_so_right.html ] I was lost and alone But you showed me the way Can´t go on, on my own Wishin´ that you would stay Kayıp ve yalnızdım Ama bana yolu gösterdin Kendi başıma devam edemem Keşke kalabilsen How could I´ve known You will hold me close so tenderly Even though I´m alone I can feel your arms enfolding me And that love, became mine in just one night When you held me tight Oooh... it felt so right   Nasıl bilebilirdim Beni o kadar şefkatle tutacağını Yalnız olsam da Hissedebiliyorum beni saran kollarını Ve o aşk, bir gecede benim oldu Beni sıkıca tuttuğunda Ahhh... çok iyiydi. I was lost and alone But you showed me the way Can´t go on, on my own Wishin´ that you would stay Tell me that you would stay...  Kayıp ve yalnızdım Ama bana yolu gösterdin Kendi başıma devam edemem Keşke kalabilsen How could I´ve know (how could I´ve known… ohh) (Ooh)You will hold me close so tenderly (oohh) (Ooh)Even though I´m alone I can feel your arms enfolding me (your arms enfold me) And that love, became mine in just one night When you held me tight Oooh... it felt so right Felt so right… Hmmm… felt so right. Nasıl bilebilirdim Beni o kadar şefkatle tutacağını Yalnız olsam da Hissedebiliyorum beni saran kollarını Ve o aşk, bir gecede benim oldu Beni sıkıca tuttuğunda Ahhh... çok iyiydi. Çok iyiydi. Hmm.. çok iyiydi.   ========================================= Enjoy listening https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E3e7v7AbeI Many thanks in advance Scott      Edited (8/5/2012) by gokuyum Scott88 liked this message

Thread: I love this site ^_^

3057.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Aug 2012 Sun 12:06 pm   Quoting tunci   Dont forget, Turkish is the language of the future...! [ Türkçe geleceğin dili        Near or distant future? Lavinia8 and tancu liked this message

Thread: can you delete people from the site?

3058.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Aug 2012 Sun 12:04 pm How can I reset myself? Abla liked this message

Thread: can you delete people from the site?

3059.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Aug 2012 Sun 12:02 pm   Quoting Abla If I wanted to leave permanently I would have to cut my fingers also not to come back.   Tilkinin dönüp dolaşıp geleceği yer kürkçü dükkanıdır

Thread: E to T

3060.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Aug 2012 Sun 11:47 am   Quoting Scott88 "Missing someone is a part of Loving them, if you are never apart, you´ll never know how strong your love really is." Could you please translate it to Turkish? Scott  Birisini özlemek onu sevmenin bir parçasıdır. Eğer hiç ayrı kalmazsanız, aşkınızın ne kadar güçlü olduğunu asla öğrenemezsiniz.   Scott88 and Grena76 liked this message

Thread: HAS SION ARRIVED AT LONDON YET?

3061.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Aug 2012 Fri 04:02 am   Quoting barba_mama     Because otherwise Lisa wouldn´t have a hand... For years I have to hear crap about Jews, about how this group is to blame for everything, about how Israel holds the power, complot here, complot there. I have heard insults about me and my family, and I have smiled...always. But at one point enough is enough. This zion crap has to stop at one point. Like a bunch of scary Jews is behind everything, and zionism rules the world. I am also done with the way Israel is portayed in the news in Turkey. When a Palestine child is killed I can see it on the news in both Holland and in Turkey. When a Israeli child is killed I can only see it on the news in Holland, and nothing is mentioned about it in Turkey. No wonder people have this weird scewed view that Israel is all powerfull and behind everything, even something as simple as a sporting event! What is WRONG with you people?!?! Get a brain and start thinking logically. If zionism was behind the Olympics, freaking Israel would win ALL the medals! One thing rules the world and it is money.   Abla liked this message

Thread: Seeking translation of song lyrics

3062.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Aug 2012 Fri 03:55 am   Quoting irishrose Hello everyone, This is a beautiful song by Azer Bülbül...can anyone translate it into English? Thanks in advance Title of song is the last line, Neredsin Caney. I´ve looked all over the Web, but it´s from a fairly new album, so no one´s translated it yet in the usual places.   Sensiz halim soranmi var döngel seni tutanmi var hasretin cana yetti yar attigim adimda izin var baktigim aynada yüzün var yüregimde sizin var hayatimda izin var nerdesin Caney Is there someone who asks how I am without you? Come back. Is there someone prevents you? My longing for you reached to its limit for my heart There is your your track on the step I take There is your face on the mirror I look at There is your pain in my heart There is your track in my life Where are you my soul?       Edited (8/3/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: MIŞ + DIR Form

3063.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Aug 2012 Thu 11:57 pm   Quoting tunci     Gökuyum, do you mean the conditional sentences ? or the previous one ?   Conditional ones. How can we be sure, it is still a guess.

Thread: MIŞ + DIR Form

3064.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Aug 2012 Thu 11:31 pm   Quoting tunci   MIŞ + DIR   Form can be used for both certainty and possibility.   Verb Stem + mIş + [personal suffix] + dIr Evden  çık    +     mış  +  tır.[note that "d" changes into "t"] Evden  çıkmıştır. He/She must [may] have left home. *************** Seni  duymuştur. He/She must [may] have heard you. *************** Yeni evlerine yerleşmişlerdir. They must [may] have settled in their new  house. *************** Bu saatte  uyumuştur bile. He/She must have already gone to bed at this hour. *************** The same form can be used in con ditional sentences, as well :   İstanbul´a gittiyse , Sultanahmet Camiini görmüştür. If he/she went to İstanbul, he/she must have seen Sultanahmet Mosque. **************** O filmi izlediyse, çok hoşuna gitmiştir. If he/she watched that fılm , he/she must have enjoyed it alot. **************** Mektubu okuduysa, ne demek istediğimi anlamıştır. If he/she read my letter , he/she must have understood what I meant. **************** Ankara´ya gittiyse ,arkadaşıyla buluşmuştur. If he/she went to Ankara, he/she must have met his/her friends. ****************     Tunci in my opinion there is no certainity in the second part too. They are guesses too.

Thread: Güllaç

3065.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Aug 2012 Thu 04:58 am Güllaç or sütlaç? I prefer sütlaç.

Thread: T 2 E

3066.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Aug 2012 Thu 04:54 am   Quoting Scott88 I´d like to translate this short quotation, could you please help? "Cok sevdigim insanlar Cok uzaktalar"   Scott   People I love a lot are far away. Scott88 liked this message

Thread: Ramadan Question

3067.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Aug 2012 Thu 04:51 am   Quoting ghiziss from what i know, the most of turkish people don´t fast in ramdan, even they are muslims, but they don´t really practice religion as other muslims country, im morrocon and , morocco is muslim country, and it´s forbidden for a morrocon citizen to eat in the street for example in ramadan, if they want eat , they can do, coz it still between God and them, but they should respect others who are fasting, But in turkey, they can eat and drink and and maybe having sex also, they can do what they want , you don´t feel that you are in ramadan month becoz they are secular country so now, in their cultur, ramadan is just a month where you can fast if you want, if not,no problem  You cant eat or do whatever you want everywhere in Turkey in Ramadan. If you eat or drink something in the street, people will not approve your behavior. People can warn you and even some fanatics can attack you. So many people like me dont take this risk. I dont fast. But I never eat or drink something in the street.

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

3068.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2012 Tue 03:07 am   Quoting Abla If someone was so kind and helped me with these.   1. Wait a second before you begin speaking. Konuşmaya başlamadan önce biraz bekle. 2. The children waited patiently for the show to begin. Çocuklar temaşanın gösterinin başlamasını sabırla bekledi. 3. The musicians began by tuning their instruments. Müzisyenler çalgılarını akort ederek başladı. 4. Once you have begun the second section of the test you cannot go back to the first. İkinci parçaya bölüme başladıktan sonra birinciye geri dönemezsiniz. 5. They have begun a textile business in Australia. Avustralya’da bir dokumacılık işine başladılar. 6. Are they finished with repaving the streets? Sokakları yine döşeme işiyle bitirdiler mi?  Sokakları tekrar döşeme işini bitirdiler mi? 7. When they finished laughing they were on their way to become not just friends but very good friends. Gülmeyi bittikleri bitirdikleri an sadece arkadaş değil iyi arkadaş olmaktaydılar olma yolundaydılar. 8. Finland finished the campaign with a dreadful total of ten points from ten matches. Finlandiya mücadeleyi turnuvayı on maçtan aldığı on noktanın puanlık iğrenç toplamla bitirdi. 9. What would happen if we stopped vaccinations? Aşılamayı bıraksak ne olurdu? 10. The browser has stopped restoring this website. Tarayıcı bu siteyi eski durumuna getirmez oldu. 11. Athens denies it will have to quit eurozone. Atina euro bölümünü bırakmasının gerektiğini inkar ediyor. 12. If possible, you had better quit milk. Mümkünse sütü bırakırsan iyi olur. 13. What might be the problem if my PC continues to reboot? Bilgisayarım yeniden başlayıp duruyorsa sorun ne olabilir?

Thread: A nice blog about Turkey

3069.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Jul 2012 Fri 07:59 pm The owner of blog is Jenny B. White. She is an author and she wrote books about some social issues in Turkey. You can see them here.   Blog address is : http://kamilpasha.com/

Thread: Learners´ Confessions - Ease Your Conscience

3070.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jul 2012 Wed 10:06 pm   Quoting Abla Flying on THY I tried to ask the air hostess for elma suyu. She didn´t understand me until I said it in English.   Maybe hostess was not Turkish. tunci liked this message

Thread: Turky in the Olympics with 114 athletes

3071.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Jul 2012 Fri 11:29 pm   Quoting tunci   Bakıyorum da bizim özenti Alpha yine iş başında. Türkçe konuş da görelim senin Türkçeni. Alpha or Omega whoever you are ; speak some Turkish ! Dont be ashamed of speaking Turkish.   When will you kill each other ?

Thread: indirect naming

3072.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Jul 2012 Fri 08:25 am http://www.ottomansouvenir.com/Turkish_Proverbs/Turkish_Proverbs_4.htm

Thread: Facebookta popüler olmasını umduğunuz özlü sözler :)

3073.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Jul 2012 Fri 08:04 am   Quoting Abla gokuyum, I think you have really caught the idea and the spirit of this genre. I´m sure you will be quoted a lot.   I am thinking hectically now how to compete with you.   All I want to be a facebook philosopher I do my best.

Thread: Cheeky Translation Request E to T

3074.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Jul 2012 Fri 07:50 am   " Good morning/afternoon *name*. I do not need to learn Turkish because as you can see I am already fluent. I just thought I would write in English to enable you to practise your written English     Seriously though, I agree with you that it is about time I learned some Turkish - I love the country and the people enough to want to visit as often as I can so the least I can do is communicate a little in the language. I bought a book and some CDs which have been gathering dust and I promise that I will dig them out and learn some phrases before I come over in September. Then you will have to watch out because if you say rude things about me in Turkish I will know what you are saying!!"   İyi günler Name. Artık Türkçe öğrenmeme gerek yok çünkü gördüğün gibi akıcı bir şekilde konuşuyorum. Sırf sen İngilizceni pratik et diye İngilizce yazmayı düşündüm Bence de biraz Türkçe öğrenmenin zamanı geldi. Ülkeyi ve insanları orayı elimden geldiğince ziyaret edecek kadar seviyorum. Bu yüzden en azından insanlarla biraz iletişim kurmaya çalışmalıyım. Rafta tozlanmakta olan bir kitap ve CD aldım ve sana söz veriyorum onları iyice inceleyeceğim ve Eylül´de gelmeden önce bazı tabirleri öğreneceğim. Bu yüzden dikkatli ol benim hakkımda kötü şeyler söylersen ne dediğini anlayacağım   Many thanks to those prepared to help this lazy would-be Turkish language student.     Edited (7/6/2012) by gokuyum Suadela liked this message

Thread: Facebookta popüler olmasını umduğunuz özlü sözler :)

3075.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Jul 2012 Fri 07:00 am Here my aphorisms that I expect to be populer in facebook. Please write yours too   1)Herkes bir gün ölecek, sen kalbimde yaşayacaksın.   Everbody will die one day but you will live in my heart.   2)Yağmurdan kaçarken sana tutuldum.   When I was running away from rain, I was caught by you.   3)Ben senin gözlerinin suyunda yüzme öğrendim.   I learnt swimming in the water of your eyes.     Edited (7/6/2012) by gokuyum Edited (7/6/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Challenge of the day -1

3076.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Jul 2012 Wed 05:46 am   Quoting tunci   Here comes the difficult one ;       Aksaçlaştırmamız  Edited (7/4/2012) by gokuyum Edited (7/4/2012) by gokuyum Henry and tunci liked this message

Thread: fiil-dik zaman ya da sırada arasında farkı nedir ?!

3077.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Jul 2012 Wed 05:31 am   Quoting Farouqkhateeb herkese merhaba .. kolay gelsiniz    You can´t say "kolay gelsiniz" It must be "kolay gelsin" Because it means literally "may it come easy". So you see it is third person. But if you say " kolay gelsiniz" it is second person plural.

Thread: Beraat Kandili

3078.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Jul 2012 Wed 05:19 am I pronounce it with one "a". Berat Kandili. My cousin´s name is also with one "a" "Berat". The thing is why we pronounce "şiir" with two "i" but we don´t pronounce this with two "a".

Thread: Oldest sporting event !!

3079.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Jul 2012 Wed 05:16 am   Quoting stumpy ok lets switch countries, you come here to watch oiled women wrestling and I´m coming over to watch the men   ok lets stop it here before Elisabeth deletes our posts... sorry tunci for going off track   Send me a ticket I will be there tomorrow night harp00n and tunci liked this message

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

3080.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Jul 2012 Wed 05:15 am   Quoting Abla If I have done with my hands what one (in general) can do with his/her hands (I wanted it to be impersonal here) let them rest. Birinin elleriyle yapabildiğini, ellerimle yapsaydım, onları dinlendirirdim.   This is my version   Edited (7/4/2012) by gokuyum Abla liked this message

Thread: Oldest sporting event !!

3081.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Jul 2012 Wed 05:12 am   Quoting stumpy oiled up men wrestling, hum!  I prefer oiled women. lol. Sorry I guess it is rude to say this

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

3082.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Jul 2012 Wed 05:07 am   Quoting Abla Ellerimle ellerle yapılabildiğini/yapabildiğini yaptıysam onlar dinlensin.   No?   Abla please write in English what you want to say in this sentence.

Thread: Help translate please T to E

3083.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jul 2012 Tue 09:18 pm   Quoting DeniseLA I dont get it.. Im so confused.. But what about guzeni? Their Turkish sucks. Edited (7/3/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Turk & dogs

3084.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jun 2012 Sat 10:43 pm   Quoting barba_mama     The moment a country I live in would be ruled by sharia law, I would move away that second. I don´t think it´s a good idea to make the testamony of a woman less valuable than a man´s, make it legal for men to have several wives (but not the other way around), and more details like that. In broad lines modern laws are highly influences by religion anyway (Islam or Christian), and I think the laws are good just the way they are. It is the following of the laws that is the problem. If you have an extra plane ticket please send it to me   Edited (6/30/2012) by gokuyum sashk liked this message

Thread: T-E important for me plz

3085.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jun 2012 Sat 10:36 pm   Quoting Abla She has a feeling it is important.   It is the problem.

Thread: T-E important for me plz

3086.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jun 2012 Sat 10:32 pm   Quoting Abla     How would she know it is not important if she doesn´t understand it?   I ask you the opposite then. Edited (6/30/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: song lyric translation

3087.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jun 2012 Sat 01:56 pm   Quoting deli Dear Harpoon I think " WE USED TO BE TOGETHER"   birlikte olurduk?   No, deli. You can tranlate it like harpoon did or you can translate it like "her zaman birlikteydik"

Thread: T-E important for me plz

3088.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jun 2012 Sat 01:50 pm I don´t understand why this is important. Henry liked this message

Thread: Short T to E please^^

3089.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jun 2012 Sat 01:48 pm   Quoting Abla       My Try:   My little lady   The girl on the other page with rose hips on it doesn´t open. I recently opened it. I am going to put it in order now.   Without punctuation and context, this cant be translated correctly.

Thread: Absurd news from the Globe

3090.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Jun 2012 Tue 09:18 pm   Quoting barba_mama     True. Whereas books like the bible are written by men, and acknowledged that they are written by men, the quran is a whole other story. That is why people who research the possibility of changes in the quran have to go into hiding or just keep their mouth shut. There is always some crazy psycho who is ready for a death thread the moment somebody raises the possibility that the quran has changed through time, and thus was written (or changed) by men. I think the problem lies mostly with the people who are so strict in the quran, that they force others to follow the quran letter by letter as well. The moment the quran is not the direct word of god, these people lose their credit.   ANYWAY... wasn´t this an "absurd news from the globe" thread? I have a new topic. A man in the U.S. caught another man sexually abusing his 4 year old daughter. In the rage he started beating on the man´s head, who died on the spot. Afterwards he said he didn´t know the man would die, ad this was not his intention. Makes you think... Probably any sane person would react in the same way.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbuH0yWJ8ec  I am just kidding. Barba if you are interested in theology, maybe you can read about numeric symetry in Quran. And if a change occured there would be no such a symetry.

Thread: Absurd news from the Globe

3091.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Jun 2012 Mon 08:56 am   Quoting vineyards Here is the sad truth, we humans are not timeless creatures, we don´t have Godly qualities either. We are as insignificant as microbes. Living means dying and disappearing. All that you will ever see is confined to the days you will spend on this Earth. When your day comes you will die and your further existence will be isolated from "you" which will linger on  in other people´s minds for a while and eventually disappear completely.     This is not a truth.This is a belief too. Our bodies decay but what about our soul? And how can you be so sure our soul disappears too after dead? What if we are like the guy in Truman Show and there is another reality outside of our small world? And like in the movie what if some good people try to warn us about this truth? What if death is the door opening to another reality?You can only get answers after you die. And what we do now is only speculation. The things we speculate are not the facts but our beliefs. You are not different than a Muslim. You defend your beliefs like him.

Thread: Absurd news from the Globe

3092.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jun 2012 Sat 10:41 pm   Quoting barba_mama It seems a bit strange... requiring a prayer room by law, when nobody asked for it. And would these prayer rooms be suitable for all religions? With all materials that are required for praying for non-muslims as well? I think not... if this law pulls through it is a very bad step for Turkey. I think it is not a big deal as long as they don´t force people to pray. And I am sure nobody will use mescid in such a place because it is absurd.   Abla liked this message

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3093.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jun 2012 Sun 05:36 pm "aman" means mercy in Arabic and sometimes we use this word with the same meaning. But it is also an expression that tells: 1)you are bored, you are frustrated, you don´t care. EX: Aman, bana ne. 2) and we use it sometimes as an expression that invites the other person to be careful and cautious. EX: Aman, dikkat et.   Edited (6/3/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Thousands pray for Istanbul landmark to become mosque

3094.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jun 2012 Sun 06:26 am   Quoting ikicihan I will be glad if muslim praying is allowed in hagia sophia again. in other words, mosque again. All you need to do is to add a carpet and cover pictures maybe with a curtain at the prayer time which is less than two hours in a day. It can be still visited by tourists as sultan ahmet (blue mosque), no need to call it a museum but may be used as a museum too. Actually it is not a proper museum, nothing is displayed there but the building itself is displayed. This is same for all historic buildings, mosques, churches... Being a mosque cannot stop being visited as a historic building like selimiye mosque. Why mosque but not church. Because most of the Turks are muslim and wants to see it as a mosque. If we were for example in Spain, i would say it might be a cathedral. See Cathedral–Mosque of Córdoba: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathedral%E2%80%93Mosque_of_C%C3%B3rdoba   Two wrongs don´t make a right.

Thread: Thousands pray for Istanbul landmark to become mosque

3095.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jun 2012 Sun 05:46 am I was raised as a Kemalist too. I lived some part of my life as an atheist. But sufi thoughts effected me a lot and I became a muslim. I had prejudgements about conservative people. This year I started to do my doctorate in a theology faculty. I observe my teachers. They are conservative but they are  good people. They understand humor. They are helpful. Some of them really read a lot and know many things. They are modern. They use technology effectively. My prejudgements blinded me and I couldn´t see how they really were. If there is something to be afraid of, it is not İslam or muslims, it is ignorance and ignorant people. I believe many fanatics are ignorant people and ignorant people can really use violance to make happen what they want. There are ignorant Muslims but there are also ignorant atheists. There are some atheists who would be happy to see all Muslims dead and there are Muslims who wants the same thing for atheists. And not all Muslims have same thoughts about everything. There are many different ideas and interpretions.   We should try to understand eachother. I respect Atatürk but I try to understand what Saidi Nursi wants to tell. I try to be obejective as much as I can. And I know this very well, knowledge is power.     Edited (6/3/2012) by gokuyum Henry, catwoman, Elisabeth and Abla liked this message

Thread: Varying Functions of -sA-

3096.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Jun 2012 Sat 12:22 am   Quoting Abla I paid attention to a newspaper headline                                   Bugün ne pişirsem? ´What should I cook today?´   It seemed to me that there was something wrong with it. The if material -se- which is usually in the subclause is in the main clause here! What is the reason:   1. because it is a question OR 2. because the subclause is lacking?   Think this "se" as a wish clause. It is like "What may I cook?" tunci liked this message

Thread: Thousands pray for Istanbul landmark to become mosque

3097.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 May 2012 Thu 05:11 pm You are discussing about where to pray, I am thinking about if I will ever pray with this laziness God help me. tunci liked this message

Thread: Need translation with Yer Gok Ask serial :) Anyone can help?

3098.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2012 Wed 07:48 pm   Quoting sufler   Yusuf sees Havva and Küçük Yılmaz in the hotel; apparently he has been deceived. Seeing the love of his life in the arms of another (man) confounds him. Havva is very happy, because she took revenge on Yusuf. However, Küçük Yılmaz is not aware of the fact that he is starting not to be her lover. Talking to Sultan Reşit, Şeref and Remzi Küçük accidentally find out the thruth about Yılmaz. Şeref is shocked and Sultan is puzzled and dumbfounded. Bade fails everytime he tries to escape from Mehmet. Mehmet says that the baby knows [she/he/it] is from him. Bade denies, but the truth is in the middle. Havva tells Şeref that she and Küçük Yılmaz loved each other. However, Şeref is very angry, his forgiveness won’t come easy. Yusuf decides to come back to the residence; Bade received another blow. Either he will lose this war or he will accept living under the same roof with Havva. As the cold war in the residence continues, Havva’s whole world is again close to be upside down.   I´m still a learner, so you can´t be sure my translation is 100% correct. I marked the phrases I had problems with in red: *Sultan ise ne yapacağını bilemez halde kalakalır   Literally it says: "Sultan is petrified in a state which can´t know what to do" *gerçek ortadadır artık   "the truth is in the middle ever after" ? something like this...    But I don´t know why the word "artık" is placed after the verb. It´s like an inverted order. *yine alt üst olmak üzeredir   "is again close to be upside down", that´s only my suggestion, I´m not sure.   Please any native speaker review my translation and explain to me the use of the phrases I had problems with   Sufler, I like reviewing tranlations but if you could translate sentences one by one and write your translations under the orginal sentences with a different font, it would be easier for me to control them. 1)Your translation is correct. Kalakalmak means "not to be able to do something", "to be shocked" 2)Ortadadır means " it is obvious" 3)Your translation is correct. Alt üst olmak means "to be very upset" if you use it for a person. Ex: Ayşe altüst oldu. Edited (5/30/2012) by gokuyum Edited (5/30/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: t-e quite long but very very important for me

3099.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 May 2012 Mon 02:12 pm I translated the message and sent it privately. Edited (5/28/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: t-e quite long but very very important for me

3100.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 May 2012 Mon 01:51 pm I will translate the text. But writer´s Turkish is not good. There can be some mistakes in my translation because of that.

Thread: etymology of turkish words - available online?

3101.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 May 2012 Sun 10:53 pm   Quoting fana Hi, I am looking for an online ETYMOLOGY dictionary of turkish words (with explanations in English).   Any idea where i can find it? Googling it seems not to be enough. Txs. http://www.nisanyansozluk.com/

Thread: t to e

3102.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 May 2012 Thu 10:27 pm   Quoting tristerecuerdos heey.   What does "bili 10 mu?" mean? I assume it´s something like "can a bill be 10?"   Thanks It is called "raping Turkish". It must be "biliyor musun?"   tunci liked this message

Thread: Mind the Spam PM

3103.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 May 2012 Sun 10:05 pm   Quoting tunci Guys I ve just got a spam pm from Lindauwen. If you got that same rubbish pm then just Mark it as Spam.   I am a victim too.

Thread: A Funny Article about Turkish Pronunciations !!!

3104.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 May 2012 Sat 11:37 pm   Quoting barba_mama     ...so this is why some Turkish people have veryyy strange accents, they learn English like this! Is Törkiş really the best way to write this... maybe Tırkiş is better...   I like our accent At least it is better than Scotland´s accent. Edited (5/19/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: A Funny Article about Turkish Pronunciations !!!

3105.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 May 2012 Sat 08:17 pm   Quoting Haydi A funny article : ) ) )   http://merhabaturkish.com/words/english-words-written-with-turkish-letters/   Aprender Turco, livro Turco   İt iz rili fani. Bat der ar sam misteyks in dı ketrins mesıc. Sam pıronansieyşıns ar nat korrekt. End it rili saks tıraying tu rayt layk diz   Edited (5/19/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: www.turkiyenotturkey.com

3106.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 May 2012 Sat 03:54 pm   Quoting si++     I don´t think we use it that way. It never ever makes me think "hindi = turkey", not even once. I have never ever witnessed any joke based on such a resemblence so far.   Hind-istan = Land of "Hind" Hint-li = From "Hind" I am sure if we had a match with India and if we won, our press would joke about the name of the country. It would be same with Egypt. Possible headlines would be like these: 1) Dün menüde hindi vardı. 2)Dün gece mısır patlattık.   I am sure about this because people are same everywhere.       Edited (5/19/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: www.turkiyenotturkey.com

3107.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 May 2012 Fri 06:53 pm   Quoting tunci     Only Turks are calling " India" as " Hindistan" but their international name is " India " whereas our international name [as English is used commonly used all over the world] is " Turkey ".  I wouldnt mind calling india with the name that  Indians would want me to call. But I havent got any name change request from them yet The main reason I support this is that some silly people are trying to take micky out of our country´s international name , otherwise I wouldnt mind any name. However I also most of the time had to use that name because it has already settled in people´s minds. It is too difficult to change the old habits but NOT impossible. Or when we make Turkish most common language then the problem will sorted out automaticly. Turkish insallah one day shall be most spoken [known] language in the world. That is my dream.     It was once a world language and it can be again.

Thread: www.turkiyenotturkey.com

3108.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 May 2012 Fri 06:41 pm   Quoting Abla I know it´s a neutral word these days. I was just teasing. Besides, I think it is very usual to divide people into "us" and "them" with the means of language.   You are not easy to tease, gokuyum.   You can always tease me I thought it was a complain and I wanted to assure you that it was not a bad word.

Thread: www.turkiyenotturkey.com

3109.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 May 2012 Fri 06:33 pm   Quoting Abla I am sad also because you call me yabancı. Doesn´t yaban mean wilderness and desert?   Seriously, is there an old pejorative meaning in the word? Yaban also means uncivilised and primitive. It is same thing with calling old Greeks other people barbarians. But we don´t use "yaban" word frequently. I think it dies. And yabancı lost its old meanings and it became "foreigner" It is not a rude thing to say now.   Edited (5/18/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Why do I love Turkey so much..

3110.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 May 2012 Fri 06:26 pm   Quoting tristerecuerdos Merhaba! No Introduction, you´ll understand after reading.  im not from turkey, but i love it so much! And in my opinion the turkish language is the most soft and wonderful language at all, and also the turkish music is great! The nature.. The language.. The traditions.. The people.. The neighborhoods.. The malls.. The.. EVERYTHING.. The country itself is something like heaven..  Seni seviyorum Türkiye...  My love to Turkey Is indescribable. I really don´t know what to say.   So, tell me now, Why do you love Turkey? Have you ever been in Turkey?

Thread: www.turkiyenotturkey.com

3111.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 May 2012 Fri 06:21 pm   Quoting Abla I´m not going to tell you what else Turkki means in Finnish. Otherwise you will all hate me.   These are childish things They don´t change anything.

Thread: www.turkiyenotturkey.com

3112.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 May 2012 Fri 06:19 pm Hindistan can mean "land of turkeys". We do the same thing to another country Edited (5/18/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: www.turkiyenotturkey.com

3113.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 May 2012 Fri 06:17 pm   Quoting barba_mama     So Turks will also stop calling India Hindistan?     We also call Egypt Mısır. Mısır means "corn" in Turkish. We are not innocent Edited (5/18/2012) by gokuyum Abla liked this message

Thread: Nazım Hikmet poem on view at London’s subway station

3114.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 May 2012 Thu 11:37 pm   Quoting Abla Don´t forget to bring it to the forum once you finish.   I will

Thread: Nazım Hikmet poem on view at London’s subway station

3115.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 May 2012 Thu 11:30 pm I will write a poem and its title will be "kedileşmek istiyorum"

Thread: www.turkiyenotturkey.com

3116.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 May 2012 Thu 10:59 pm You can call us as you want. Because we call you as we want. Edited (5/17/2012) by gokuyum barba_mama and tomac liked this message

Thread: White Turks

3117.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 May 2012 Thu 10:53 pm   Quoting girleegirl   Hmmmmm your message said you prefer people with dark skin and white hearts.....that doesn´t sound the same to me but if that is what you meant....good for you     Actually I prefer white hearts no matter what the skin is

Thread: Nazım Hikmet poem on view at London’s subway station

3118.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 May 2012 Thu 10:43 pm   Quoting tunci   One of his impressive poem called " Kız çocuğu " was composed as a song and sung by many musician.  The poem is dedicated to Hiroşima Victims. Nazım expresses the cries of a little girl ten years after she lost her life. Zülfü Livaneli composed it. And its english translation known as "I Come and Stand at Every Door" composed by The Byrds which I like. You can listen the song the link below ; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac0CDpU44fA I Come and Stand at Every Door I come and stand at every door But no one hears my silent tread I knock and yet remain unseen For I am dead, for I am dead. I´m only seven although I died In Hiroshima long ago I´m seven now as I was then When children die they do not grow. My hair was scorched by swirling flame My eyes grew dim, my eyes grew blind Death came and turned my bones to dust And that was scattered by the wind. I need no fruit, I need no rice I need no sweet, nor even bread I ask for nothing for myself For I am dead, for I am dead. All that I ask is that for peace You fight today, you fight today So that the children of this world May live and grow and laugh and play. KIZÇOCUĞU Kapıları çalan benim kapıları birer birer. Gözünüze görünemem göze görünmez ölüler. Hiroşima´da öleli oluyor bir on yıl kadar. Yedi yaşında bir kızım, büyümez ölü çocuklar. Saçlarım tutuştu önce, gözlerim yandı kavruldu. Bir avuç kül oluverdim, külüm havaya savruldu. Benim sizden kendim için hiçbir şey istediğim yok. Şeker bile yiyemez ki kâat gibi yanan çocuk. Çalıyorum kapınızı, teyze, amca, bir imza ver. Çocuklar öldürülmesin şeker de yiyebilsinler. [1956] This is really a great poem and I really like a lot some of Nazım´s poems. I also like his humanism. But what about this poem: Makinalaşmak istiyorum / Nazım Hikmet- 1923 trrrrum, trrrrum, trrrrum! trak tiki tak! makinalaşmak istiyorum! beynimden, etimden, iskeletimden geliyor bu! her dinamoyu altıma almak için çıldırıyorum! tükrüklü dilim bakır telleri yalıyor, damarlarımda kovalıyor oto-direzinler lokomotifleri! trrrrum, trrrrum, trak tiki tak makinalaşmak istiyorum! mutlak buna bir çare bulacağım ve ben ancak bahtiyar olacağım karnıma bir türbin oturtup kuyruğuma çift uskuru taktığım gün! trrrrum trrrrum trak tiki tak! makinalaşmak istiyorum!   He says he wants to be a machine. That is the most disgusting thing for me. Being a robot, without any emotion and acting always according to a program. A human machine. That was what Stalin´s Russia wanted a long time ago. I really don´t understand how could he write such a poem.

Thread: White Turks

3119.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 May 2012 Thu 10:28 pm   Quoting girleegirl     I prefer not judging anyone by their skin color......     My message says exactly the same thing.   Edited (5/17/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: White Turks

3120.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 May 2012 Thu 10:15 pm Some people have white skins but dark hearts and some people have dark skins but white hearts. I would prefer the second one.

Thread: E to T

3121.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 May 2012 Thu 02:03 pm   Quoting yolla222     i learnt that Ali´s car = Ali´nin arabası (s = buffer  letter ) Right ? in this example Mehmet´ in fınjanını = (Mehmet´s cup ) shouldn´t we say " mehmet´in finjanı instead ?   Thank you ! There is only one buffer letter in Turkish. And it is "y". "s" is not a buffer letter. It is the part of suffix "sı". fincan-ı-n-ı   this n is not a buffer also. We call it "pronominal n" It comes after 3. person singular possesive suffix(it is first "ı" here).   Edited (5/17/2012) by gokuyum yolla222 liked this message

Thread: The Most Beautiful Turkish Word

3122.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 May 2012 Wed 02:13 pm gönül is my favourite.

Thread: Tr to en please

3123.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 May 2012 Sun 09:22 pm   Quoting kiz_kiz Bende cok isterim ama ben calisiyorum kendini kendini yalniz hisedebirsin senin Icin sorun olmayacaksa olabilir    This is not a typical Turkish behaviour. A Turk would always accept such an offer immediately no matter what. There is something wrong.

Thread: Is it possible to use English in Istanbul

3124.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 May 2012 Sun 09:13 pm Stumpy it is good to see you again. You were absent.   Using "lütfen" properly can open every door in Turkey

Thread: Is it possible to use English in Istanbul

3125.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 May 2012 Sun 02:39 pm   Quoting tristerecuerdos   . And I guess most Turks know Arabic ...   Lol. We don´t know Arabic.

Thread: Super final: Day of reckoning for Fenerbahçe, Galatasaray

3126.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 May 2012 Sun 09:37 am A miracle happened and Fenerbahçe couldn´t beat us this time. I admit they deserved the cup. But I am happy Galatasaray got it. Edited (5/13/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Ottoman Poetry

3127.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 May 2012 Thu 08:13 pm   Quoting Abla Fuzuli was Azeri actually. Is his Turkish different?   Arabs typically compare a beautiful woman´s face to the moon. Is it a usual metaphor in Turkish also?         I agree with you, Aida Krishan. I am a little bit allergic to Sufism as a matter of fact. gokuyum has a mission here.   His language has Azeri characteristics. But in his time there was no big difference between these two dialects. One of the important sources of Ottoman poetry is sufism. You can witness sufi symbolism in most of the poems. I am really into sufism. But it is not only about me. If you really want to understand Ottoman poetry, you should know sufi symbolism. After I read this poem, I was full of excitement. I saw a wonderful beauty in the poem. And it is one of my characteristics to share beauty with others. So I translated it. Hope you like it.   In Turkish you can refer to a beautiful woman in the same way in Arabic. We share same cultrual ground with them in litrature and etc.... Edited (5/10/2012) by gokuyum Edited (5/10/2012) by gokuyum DisiBayanAsk liked this message

Thread: Ottoman Poetry

3128.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 May 2012 Thu 01:58 pm                     -4-   OK BEDENDEN ÇIKINCA...  When the arrow comes out of body Benim tek hiç kim zar ü perişan olmasın ya Rab Esir-i derd-i aşk u dağ-i hicran olmasın ya Rab O God! May nobody cry and be miserable like me. O God!May nobody be captive of sorrow of love and wound of separation. Dem-a-dem cevrlerdir çekdiğim bi-rahm bütlerden Bu kafirler esiri bir müselman olmasın ya Rab It is the torment that I always suffer from cruel beautiful women O God! May a muslim not be captive of these infidels Görüb endişe-i katlimde ol mahı budur derdim Ki bu endişeden ol meh peşiman olmasın ya Rab I saw that beautiful (like moon) thinking my death O God! May she not regret this thought. Çıharmak itseler tenden çeküb peykanı ol servin Çıhan olsun dil-i mecruh peykan olmasın ya Rab If they want to take out the arrow of that beautiful (like cypress) O God! May it be my wounded heart, not the arrow. Cefa ü cevr ile mu ´tadım anlarsız n´olur halim Cefasına had ü cevrine payan olmasın ya Rab I got used to her cruelty and torment, what would I do without them? O God! May not be a limit of her cruelty and end of her torment Demen kim adli yok ya zulmü çok her hal ile olsa Gönül tahtına andan gayrı sultan olmasın ya Rab I never say she is not just and she is very cruel whatever happens O God! May not be another sultan sitting on the throne of my heart other than her Fuzuli buldu genc-i afiyet mey-hane küncünde Mübarek mülkdür ol mülk viran olmasın ya Rab Fuzuli found the treasure of well-being in a tavern O God! It is such a holly place may it not be a ruin.                                                                           Fuzuli (1483-1556)   What a wonderful poem! It has a sufi symbolism. Let me explain the symbolism in poem a little bit:   beautiful, beloved : God wine: love tavern: dervish lodge to die: come together with God torment and cruelty: the way of getting rid of bodily desires. Edited (5/10/2012) by gokuyum Edited (5/10/2012) by gokuyum Edited (5/10/2012) by gokuyum Edited (5/10/2012) by gokuyum DisiBayanAsk and Aida krishan liked this message

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

3129.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 May 2012 Mon 11:31 pm   Quoting tomac     I wonder - could something like this make sense in Turkish?   Dün gece çevrimiçi olsaydı, e-mailimi kesinlikle teslim almış olurdu. Dün gece çevrimiçi olsaydı, e-mailimi büyük ihtimalle teslim almış olurdu. Yes they make sense.

Thread: my try to write a thing like a poem in turkish

3130.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 May 2012 Mon 03:26 am Here another poem from me:   NAME 2   All songs I like, remind me of you I ask myself, who am I, who? Aren´t we all, parts of a whole? We are together even loneliness call. Distance is a lie, under the same sky Don´t we have tents,with wind they fly. So why am I sad, what is this hole? Playing the desperate, is that my role? Edited (5/7/2012) by gokuyum Edited (5/7/2012) by gokuyum Edited (5/7/2012) by gokuyum Edited (5/7/2012) by gokuyum Edited (5/7/2012) by gokuyum ms.yousra, nifrtity, tristerecuerdos, tunci and DisiBayanAsk liked this message

Thread: my try to write a thing like a poem in turkish

3131.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 May 2012 Mon 03:23 am   Quoting tunci   Here you go,  I ve just written one [I know it sucks and depressive one] ;     my lonely heart like a fish that is lost among millions in a vast ocean Shall my pain ever gonna be heard if I yell at the skies I am besieged by impossible feelings that will soon collapse my lonely heart.. -----------------------------------------       Great. You feel a pain too I guess.   basima liked this message

Thread: my try to write a thing like a poem in turkish

3132.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 May 2012 Mon 02:47 am   Quoting tunci     WOW...GOK, you are a poet ! But sorry for it ended badly..You know No love has happy ending, since love- in my literature- means "Suffering","pain" and "sacrifice, imposibilness", otherwise love loses its magical power. [in my opinion]. One day insallah I also would write one love poem in english in here Thank you tunci. I believe that feeling a deep pain awakens one´s poet inside him. I look forward for your poem.   basima and DisiBayanAsk liked this message

Thread: my try to write a thing like a poem in turkish

3133.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 May 2012 Mon 02:19 am I want to see English poems of Turks. Especially tunci´s. I write English poems. And I wrote this one for someone I loved.It ended badly               NAME Stuck in a dream world I think about possibilities Without hearing a positive word I decieve myself about oppurtinities So what if i believe in  fairytales which will never end happily If I dont care about the facts That is only my misery Is it so difficult to love someone Without thinking about obstacles? What if he is the right one Why dont you believe in miracles? I know you are too mature To believe such nonsenses Sometimes even logic is in failure The one wins is what heart senses. Edited (5/7/2012) by gokuyum Edited (5/7/2012) by gokuyum basima, Henry, Shmmtx, ms.yousra, tristerecuerdos and 2 others liked this message

Thread: my try to write a thing like a poem in turkish

3134.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 May 2012 Mon 02:15 am   Quoting nifrtity     Bu kadar kolay mı ? beni unuttun ve sildin kalbinden Bu kadar kolay mı? sen gittin vedasız hiç birşey söylemedin Bu kadar kolay mı? ben sana ne düşünüyorsun   ? oyun gibi mi ? sence bu oyunu bitiyor   ah bu kadar kolay mı? senin kalbinin tipi ne ? ... taş mı demir mi Bu kadar kolay mı? kalbin boş hissiz       Edited (5/7/2012) by gokuyum basima and nifrtity liked this message

Thread: my try to write a thing like a poem in turkish

3135.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 May 2012 Mon 02:12 am , Edited (5/7/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Pinocchio

3136.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 May 2012 Mon 01:43 am If one pinocchio goes, other always comes after

Thread: e to t :D

3137.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 May 2012 Mon 01:41 am   Quoting Abla     It seems that learning Turkish grammar was no big thing for you.   Power of love

Thread: The -miş in words

3138.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 May 2012 Mon 01:38 am   Quoting Henry I did a short Turkish course in Istanbul last week, and here are some of my notes about the ´miş´ tense. My teacher listed 7 main ways the tense is used 1 Ben direkt görmedim, ama duydum / TV´de syrettim / okudum ve sonra başka kişiye anlatmak için "miş" kullanıyoruz. (The course was taught in Turkish) (We use the "miş" tense for when I didn´t see it directly, but I heard it / saw it on TV / or read it, and later I told this to another person) Annem ve babam 50 yıl önce evlenmişler (My mother and father were married 50 years ago) 2 Dedikodu (Gossip) Duydun mu, Angelina Jolie 3 kez hamileymiş. (Have you heard, Angelina Jolie is pregnant for the 3rd time.) 3 Sonra farketmek (to realise later) Oo! deniz soğukmuş (Ooo! the sea water is cold) like when you initially put your foot in the water and realise it is cold. Hmm!  Eline sağlık, yemek çok  güzel olmüş. (Hmm! Health to your hands, the food is very nice) when you try some food and realise it is very tasty. 4 Yalakalık yap (buttering up somebody) Pembe yalan söyle (telling a small (pink) lie) 5 Sürpriz (for surprises) Aaa! Cüzdanımı evde unutmuşum. (Aaa! I must have left my wallet at home) When you go to pay someone and discover your wallet is not in your pants or bag. Or when you look out your window in the morning and discover everything is covered in snow, because it snowed last night. You hadn´t seen it snow, but obviously it has. 6 "meğer" realite farklı, "güya" yalan varsa (different to what you thought) Güya ben rakı içmişim sarhoş olmuşum, ama hepsi yalan. (Supposedly I drank raki and was drunk, but it was all a lie.) Meğer gelmemiş. (It seems that he didn´t come.) 7 Masal, fıkra ve hikaye (Tales, annecdotes and stories) Bir varmış, bir yokmuş (once upon a time) bir zamanlar (at one time) Some other things that may help you ..... Bebekken saçlarım sapsarıymış. (Here you should use ´imiş´ (When I was a baby my haır was very blonde.) Çocukken saçlarım sapsarıydı. (Here it´s OK to use ´idi´ (When I was a child my hair was very blonde.)     Very useful notes Henry. Thanks. Henry liked this message

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

3139.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 May 2012 Mon 01:32 am   Quoting Abla Thanks for your help again, gokuyum.   There is a typical mistake I make with Turkish conditional clauses always. I see possible conditions where natives use the hypothetical pattern. But not so much any more. I have learned a more pessimistic approach to if clauses and it seems to work.   Are you sure, gokuyum, the meaning of necessity is present here? Is -meli- necessitative impossible in this position?           15. He should have received my e-mail if he´d been online yesterday evening. Dün gece çevrimiçi olsaydı e-mailimi teslim almış olurdu.   1) "almış olurdu" There is no necessity here. It is a guess or possibility about past.  2)It seems using necessity in a conditional sentense in Turkish doesnt always make a lot of sense. Edited (5/8/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: The -miş in words

3140.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 May 2012 Mon 01:08 am .....duyulan geçmiş zaman kipinin hikayesi, her ne kadar şekilce duyulan geçmiş zamanı gösteriyor ise de, yüklendiği görev bakımından artık bu işlevini yitirerek görülen geçmiş zamanın hikayesini karşılar duruma gelmiştir. Bu bakımdan, duyulan geçmiş zamanın hikaye çekimi, şekilce var olan ama işlevece var olmayan bir birleşik kip olarak kabul edilmelidir(1). (1) Zeynep Korkmaz, Türkiye Türkçesi Grameri (Şekil Bilgisi), sy 737,  2003 Ankara, Türk Dil Kurumu Yayınları   Lets try to translate this complicated explanation. God help me. I will translate it literally without using the known gramar terms, maybe you can put them in text for me later.   Although the story (-di) of heard past tense mode (-miş ) points out heard past tense (-miş ) gramatically, in terms of the task it has, it now meets the story (-di) of seen past tense (-di) by losing its function. In this perspective, the conjugation of story (-di) of the heard past tense (-miş ) must be accepted as a united mode that exists gramatically but doesnt exist functionally.   I hope this helps.   Edited (5/7/2012) by gokuyum Edited (5/7/2012) by gokuyum Edited (5/7/2012) by gokuyum tunci liked this message

Thread: Annane

3141.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 May 2012 Sun 02:09 am   Quoting sufler I managed to get the picture here I´ve already gotten used to typos in online press, but TV also? I´m curious about how the show host read the question aloud ;D TV sucks so bad, you wouldn´t believe it.   Edited (5/6/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

3142.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 May 2012 Sun 02:05 am   Quoting Abla Conditional clauses once again. Please correct me.   1. If it rains, the boys won´t play football. Yağmur yağarsa erkek çocuklar futbol oynamayacak. 2. We wouldn’t look that happy if we didn’t win the match. Maçı kazanmazsak o kadar mutlu görünmezdik. 3. If it had rained yesterday I wouldn’t have had to water the plants. Dün yağmur yağsaydı bitkileri sulamak zorunda kalmazdım. 4. My daughter would have told me if she had done it. Kızım onu yapsaydı bana anlatırdı. 5. She wouldn´t have yawned the whole day if she hadn´t stayed up late last night. Dün gece geç saatlere kadar uyanık kalmasaydı bütün gün esnemezdi. 6. If you wait a minute, I´ll come with you. Bir dakika beklersen seninle geleceğim. 7. If we arrived at 10, we would miss Tyler´s presentation. Saat onda ulaşsaydık Tyler’in sunuşunu kaçırırdık. 8. We would have helped John if we´d known about his problems. Sorunlarını hakkında bilseydik John’a yardım ederdik. 9. If they had used new batteries, their camera would have worked correctly. Yeni piller kullansaydılar kameraları doğru şekilde çalışırdı. 10. If I went anywhere, it would be New Zealand. Herhangi bir yere gitseydim, bu yer Yeni Zelanda olurdu. 11. If you like, you can stay for two days. İstersen iki gün kalabilirsin. 12. If I had seen the film in the cinema, I wouldn´t have watched it on TV again. Filmi sinemada görseydim onu tekrar televizyonda seyretmezdim. 13. If the parents bought the cat, their children would be very happy. Ana baba  kediyi satın alırsa çocukları çok mutlu olur. 14. Metal expands if you heat it. Metal ısıtıldığında genleşir. 15. He should have received my e-mail if he´d been online yesterday evening. Dün gece çevrimiçi olsaydı e-mailimi teslim almış olurdu. 16. They´d have been able to return the bottle if they hadn´t torn off the labels. Etiketleri koparmasaydılar şişeyi geri verebilirdiler. 17. If she tidies up her room, she must find the receipt. Odasını toplarsa reçeteyi bulmalı. 18, What would you do if you had a million dollars. Bir milyon doların olsa ne yapardın? 19. Where would you live if you were younger. Daha genç olsan nerede yaşardın? 20. If you will wait for a little moment, I´ll tell the doctor you are here. Biraz beklersiniz doktora burada olduğunuzu söyleyeceğim.

Thread: Annane

3143.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 May 2012 Sun 12:05 am It is a misspelling.

Thread: t to e

3144.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 May 2012 Sun 12:00 am   Quoting tristerecuerdos Hi. correct me Tabii arkadaş olabiliri. Ama sen garipsin, benim´le asla konuşmuyorsun ben de seni konuşmaya zorlayamam. Kendimi sefil hissediyorum. Sensiz yaşamayı deneyeyim desem, imkaansız; başkalarını da sinir et sevme.  =  sure we can be friends, but you´re weird you barely ever talk to me and i cant force you to talk to me. I already feel pathetic. I shall just try to live without you, which is impossible, but i dont like botheríng people. Thanks. At least you learnt some Turkish. You can try your chance with another Turkish girl now   Sir_Robalot liked this message

Thread: Turkish Folk Songs

3145.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 May 2012 Thu 07:54 pm Urfa Türküsü http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU8DvYbQXjs

Thread: Turkish Folk Songs

3146.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 May 2012 Thu 07:24 pm Mezarımın Taşına  (a cover) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-YcE4dTA5c

Thread: Turkish Folk Songs

3147.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 May 2012 Thu 07:21 pm Here is a nice one. It is a Cyprus folk song.   Dolama http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjw7OQ7LlWk

Thread: Ottoman Poetry

3148.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 May 2012 Thu 10:06 am Cümle âlem dir bana hep senündür bu cihân Kâfirem ger var-ısa içinde bir taşum benüm   Everybody says me “This world is all yours”. I am an infidel if I even own a stone in it.   Such a great couplet. He is the Ottoman emperor but he says he doesnt even own a stone in this world. He wants to express that everything belongs to God.   bejo liked this message

Thread: Ottoman Poetry

3149.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 May 2012 Thu 10:00 am Selim Bir Gazel A Perfect Gazel   Gözlerimden akdı deryalar gibi yaşum benim Dostlar çok nesne gördü onmadık başum benim   My tears flew from my eyes like seas. O friends! My unfortuned head saw a lot of things.   Geçmek içün seyl-i ekşimden hayâlün askerleri Bir direkli iki gözli köprüdür kaşum benim   My eyebrow is a bridge made of one pillar and two holes in order soldiers of imagination to pass through the flood of my tears.   Her gice altun benekli asumaniler geyup, İş bu çarh-ı pire-zen olmışdur aynaşum benim   My beloved became the hag of heavens wearing blue and spotty clothes every night.   Ben geda firkat diyârında kalurdum yalınuz Mihnet ü derd ü belâ olmasa yoldaşım benim   Poor me would stay alone in this land of seperation if bother and worry and trouble weren’t my companions.   Cümle âlem dir bana hep senündür bu cihân Kâfirem ger var-ısa içinde bir taşum benüm   Everybody says me “This world is all yours”. I am an infidel if I even own a stone in it.   İy felek tokuz dolu câm içmeyince Hân Selim Devr içinde kimse olmadı ayakdaşum benim   O fate! Nobody became my companion in this age untill Khan Selim drank nine full cups                                                                               (Yavuz Sultan Selim)                                                                           Edited (5/3/2012) by gokuyum Edited (5/3/2012) by gokuyum Edited (5/3/2012) by gokuyum Edited (5/3/2012) by gokuyum DisiBayanAsk liked this message

Thread: Ottoman Poetry

3150.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 May 2012 Wed 09:36 pm I dont support puricification in Turkish anymore. It is the reason whole Ottomon literature of 600 years is lost for us now. And Arabic and Farsi words in Turkish really makes it easy to learn those languages for a Turk. We have strong cultur- al ties with Arabic and Farsi culture. And I dont want to see them weaken any- more. nevbahar and Mavili liked this message

Thread: Why Turks don’t smile

3151.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 May 2012 Tue 07:22 pm We smile if we know you. Sir_Robalot liked this message

Thread: Ottoman Poetry

3152.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 May 2012 Tue 07:18 pm   Quoting Abla Mahlas Selimi (Yavuz Sultan Selim 1512-20 ) also wrote verses in Turkish and Persian.   gokuyum?    I will translate one of his poems when I have time abla. I didnt think you were interested in Ottoman Poetry

Thread: t-e (thank you kindly)

3153.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Apr 2012 Mon 10:09 pm   Quoting harp00n     I think the reason is "Spring"    After translating and correcting endless love letters you start to feel old CihangirKiz liked this message

Thread: AKP women urge no ban on hijab

3154.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Apr 2012 Mon 10:02 pm Arkadaşlar tüm önyargılarımızın kaynağı korkularımızdır. Korkularımız da genellik- le bilgisizlikten ortaya çıkar. Hiçbir şey ne göründüğü kadar iyi ne de göründüğü kadar kötüdür. tunci liked this message

Thread: t-e (thank you kindly)

3155.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Apr 2012 Mon 09:34 pm   Quoting CihangirKiz merhaba   canım....nasılsın bugün? umarım iyisindir  keyfin yerindedir... senin her zaman mutlu ve huzurlu olmanı yürekten istiyorum.. sen herşeyin en güzeline ve en özeline layıksın.... sana çok açık konuşuyorum..... bu kız ankarada yaşıyor.... ben bu kız ile görüşmüyorum... bana inanmalısın... eğer bana inanmıyorsan araştırmalıısn...  benim amacım senin gibi yüreği sevgi dolu birini asla üzmememek ve inciltmemektir....  evet sen yok iken ben bu kız ile görüştüm...  ama görüşmemimiz birçok hassas nedeni vardı.. bu konuları sana ancak yüzyüze anlatabilirim... benim seni unuttuğum yok zaten olamaz....  seninle geçirdiğim vakit ömrümün en güzel zamanları oldu... seni tanıdığım için çok mutluyum. ama şimdi çok mutsuzum çünkü sen benim şehrimdesin ve beni görmek istemiyorsun... bu benim için çok acı......  iyi düşün tatlım:  biz birbirimizi üzebilir miyiz?         sen burada yalnız yaşamayı hak etmiyorsun.... aklım hep sende kalıyor ve seni çok merak ediyorum....  eğer beni biraz olsun  sevdiysen sesime kulak ver ve beni görmeyi dene. beni görmek sana hiçbirşey kaybetmeyecektir.....aksine çok şey kazandıracaktır....    tatil olan  pazar günümde seni görmek ister ve  eski günlerdeki gibi huzurlu bir gün geçirmek isterim....     beni bu sefer arayacağına inancım tam cam..... aramanı sabırsızlıkla bekleyeceğim...    hoşçakal meleğim  It is so long, I am so lazy And I feel old.   CihangirKiz liked this message

Thread: The Most touching turkish song you've ever heard is...?

3156.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Apr 2012 Sun 07:55 pm My all time favourite is "Tanrıdan Diledim" I first heart it in a serial in the first link. Then Yavuz Bingöl also sang the song. It is in the second link. I prefer first link. But Yavuz Bingöl also sings it good.   1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHcJToLOsrY   2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ronSxMaF59Q&ob=av3e Edited (4/29/2012) by gokuyum Edited (4/29/2012) by gokuyum Aida krishan liked this message

Thread: Çevirmek isteyenler var mı acaba? :)

3157.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Apr 2012 Sun 05:21 pm   Quoting Lollabrigida   Bu akşam bir ateş duyup etimde Kadın, kadın diye içimi oydum. Ruhuma bir serin yer istedim de Alnımı mermerin üstüne koydum. Feeling a fire in my flesh this evening, I carved myself saying woman, woman. I wanted a cool place for my soul, I put my forehead on marble. Birden karanlıklar sökülüverdi Odama bir hayal dökülüverdi, Karşımda gerindi bükülüverdi, Onu gözlerimle çırılçıplak soydum. Suddenly darknesses disappeared. An image in my room appeared. She streched and twisted I undressed her with my eyes. Artık ben ne günah olsa işlerim, Yumuşacık yastığa geçti dişlerim, Bir ân kadar sürdü can verişlerim, Ey kadın, bu akşam sana da doydum. Now I can commit every sin My teeth bit soft pillow. My perishing lasted for a moment O woman! I am satisfied with you this evening. Hayal, Necip Fazil K.        Temptation of flesh Edited (4/29/2012) by gokuyum Edited (4/29/2012) by gokuyum Edited (4/29/2012) by gokuyum Edited (4/29/2012) by gokuyum Edited (4/29/2012) by gokuyum tunci and harp00n liked this message

Thread: can i write it to my bf?

3158.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Apr 2012 Sun 05:09 pm   Quoting mary2495 woow acute,you cant stop love when its coming....for me it doesnt matter that we dont share same religion...if we love each other,nothing else matter.. even u said its not worth it,i dont agree with u    I agree.

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

3159.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Apr 2012 Sun 04:57 pm   Quoting Abla Some work here. Would someone correct me, please.       Pit-roasted bear Çukurda kızartmış ayı eti -----------------------------   2 kg bear shoulder 4 dl crushed lingonberries 2 dl honey 1 tablespoon salt 2 sheets of greaseproof paper (50 cm wide) 2 sheets of strong foil (50 cm wide) 2 kilo ayı boynu 4 dl ezilmiş kırmızı yaban mersini 2 dl bal 1 yemek kaşığı tuz 2 tabaka yağ geçirmez kağıt (genişliği 50 cm) 2 tabaka dayanıklı folyo (genişliği 50 cm) ------------------------------------   Cut a 2 kg piece of shoulder, with 2–3cm of fat on the surface.Put the meat on the grease proof paper.  Spread honey, crushed lingonberries and salt on the meat.  Wrap up the meat with plenty of paper at the corners.  Rewrap in greaseproof paper and twice in foil. Make sure the package is as tight as possible, with paper spread evenly all around the meat. Yüzünde 2-3 cm yağ olan 2 kiloluk bir boyun parçası kesiniz. Eti yağ geçirmez kağıda koyunuz. Ûstüne balı, ezilmiş yaban mersinini, tuzu yayınız. Köşelerde bolca kağıt bırakırak eti sarıp sarmalayınız. Bir kere daha yağ geçirmez kağıda ve iki kere folyoya sarınız. Ambalajın elinizden geldiğince sıkı ve etin her yerinde aynı oranda kağıtla örtülmüş olduğundan emin olunuz. ------------------------------------   Dig a 40 cm deep pit in sandy clay soil and line it with bricks or regularly-shaped stones.  A deep hole retains heat well even in exposed places. Burn dry sticks from deciduous trees in the pit for a minimum of two hours. Conifer wood does not produce good embers. Poke well before adding more sticks to ensure adequate heat. Kumlu kil toprağına derinliği 40 santimetre olan bir çukur kazınız. Onu tuğla ya da düzgün biçimli taşlarla sınırlandırınız. Derin bir çukur hem de açık yerlerde bile sıcaklığı alıkoyar. Çukurda en az iki saattir yapraklarını döken ağaçlardan çubuk yakınız. Kozalaklı ağaç iyi kor yapmaz. Yeterli sıcaklığı temin etmek için çubuk eklemeden önce ateşi iyice dürtünüz. ----------------------------------------   Remove the embers from the pit. Place the package in the pit on the grate surface. If there is empty space at the sides, push the bricks next to the package. Cover it with embers. Press he embers together tightly to prevent them from glowing. A layer of ashes should be formed on the surface.  Koru çukurdan çıkarınız. Ambalajı çukura ızgara üzerine koyunuz. Taraflarda boş yer varsa tuğlaları ambalajın yanına itiniz. Korla örtünüz. Parlamasını önlemek için koru iyice sıkıştırınız. Yüzeyde bir kül tabakası oluşturulmalı. --------------------------------------------   After half an hour, listen carefully. If you hear a rattling sound, the cooking process has begun and the meat will be ready after approximately three hours. If the weather is windy or rainy, it is advisable to cover the embers with a board. Yarım saat sonra dikkatle dinleyiniz. Tıkırdayan bir ses duyursanız, pişme süreci başlamıştır ve et aşağı yukarı üç saat sonra hazır olacaktır. Hava rüzgarlı ya da yağmurluysa, korun tahtayla kapanması tavsiye edilir.    Very good translation.

Thread: Corrections please on this song

3160.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Apr 2012 Fri 11:17 pm   Quoting acute     thank you again   I am at your service Edited (4/20/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Corrections please on this song

3161.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Apr 2012 Fri 11:05 pm I tried to be literal. But I guess your poetic style is also good.

Thread: Corrections please on this song

3162.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Apr 2012 Fri 11:02 pm   Quoting acute can you further explain the reasons why the changes to help me learn better thanks in advance         love is all that counts Öyle bir rüyaydın ki Sadece bir kez gördüm Denedim tutamadım Rüzgarda savrulan bir küldün you are a dream / you were such a dream that I once had / I had only once   (only once I had) could this also be an option      (agree) you were an ash flying in the  wind I tried to grab, but couldnt   I tried but couldnt grab ? is this not the same thing as I said (you are right) or is there a grammer rule I am missing    Denedim tutamadım Rüzgarda savrulan bir küldün you were an ash flying in the wind I tried to grab, but couldnt/ I tried but couldnt grab   Aşk her şeye değer Seni yeni anladım Bin yıl geçse sürer İçimde rüzgarın love is all that counts I´ve just understood you even  after a thousand years/ It would blow even after a thousand years you blow like a wind inside me/ your wind  inside me again I am confused is this not the same as what I wrote just in a slightly different order but the same meaning? Can you show me the difference in grammer technique where I made a mistake in my meaning or the way the sentence is structured (yours is good too)     Aşk herşeye değer Seni seviyorum Sevmek suçsa eğer Kabul ediyorum love is all that counts you I love / I love you if loving is a crime I accept it   Öyle bir yalnızlık ki Eşik ediyor hayalin Gözlerin kapalı Yanımdasın hala sevgilim such a lonliness bridged by your image/ your dream acompanies it where do you get dream? Can you explain please (hayal-dream-imagination) your eyes are closed you´re still next to me, my love   Gözlerin kapalı Yanımda gibisin sevgilim your eyes are closed like you´re still with me, my love   Aşk her şeye değer Seni hissediyorum anladım Sevmek suçsa eğer Kabul ediyorum love is all that counts I feel you understand/ I understood that I feel you  you I am feeling I understand  is this an option? (past tense) if loving is a crime I accept it   I will correct my post.

Thread: Corrections please on this song

3163.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Apr 2012 Fri 08:53 pm   Quoting acute thank you for the corrections   You are always welcome acute liked this message

Thread: ´Genocide´ cartoon in French school shocks Turkish students

3164.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Apr 2012 Fri 08:52 pm   Quoting lemon     I got used to insults. Its ok because you dont know what you are saying and what you are gonna face in afterlife.   Your problem is you talk too big. Everyone has his own truth. Accept that and dont try to save us. Because nobody will thank you for that.

Thread: Corrections please on this song

3165.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Apr 2012 Fri 08:42 pm   Quoting acute ask her seye deger by Asli Güngör love is all that counts Öyle bir rüyaydın ki Sadece bir kez gördüm Denedim tutamadım Rüzgarda savrulan bir küldün you are a dream / you were such a dream that I once had  you were an ash flying in the  wind I tried to grab, but couldnt   Denedim tutamadım Rüzgarda savrulan bir küldün you were an ash flying in the wind I tried to grab, but couldnt   Aşk her şeye değer Seni yeni anladım Bin yıl geçse sürer İçimde rüzgarın love is all that counts I´ve just understood you even  after a thousand years you blow like a wind inside me   Aşk herşeye değer Seni seviyorum Sevmek suçsa eğer Kabul ediyorum love is all that counts I have a new understanding of you/ I love you if loving is a crime I accept it   Öyle bir yalnızlık ki Eşik ediyor hayalin Gözlerin kapalı Yanımdasın hala sevgilim such a lonliness bridged by your image/ your dream acompanies it your eyes are closed you´re still next to me, my love   Gözlerin kapalı Yanımda gibisin sevgilim your eyes are closed like you´re still with me, my love   Aşk her şeye değer Seni hissediyorum anladım Sevmek suçsa eğer Kabul ediyorum love is all that counts I feel you understand/ I understood that I feel you if loving is a crime I accept it http://lyricstranslate.com This is a really good translation attempt. Well done.   Edited (4/20/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: ´Genocide´ cartoon in French school shocks Turkish students

3166.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Apr 2012 Fri 08:32 pm   Quoting lemon     Thats ok. I forgive your impatience towards me, my son. God bless.   You are really a maniac.

Thread: ´Genocide´ cartoon in French school shocks Turkish students

3167.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Apr 2012 Fri 08:03 pm   Quoting lemon I read your angry post. And I have this talent of reading between the lines.        It is impossible to discuss something wiith you reasonably. I give up.

Thread: The Most touching turkish song you've ever heard is...?

3168.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Apr 2012 Fri 07:54 pm   Quoting acute ask her seye deger   http://youtu.be/bX_qGEJYik8     So ironic.

Thread: German government moves to block Quran distribution

3169.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Apr 2012 Fri 07:53 pm We would do the same thing what German government wants to do if some people tried to give so many Bible copies freely in the streets. I am not against it. But what I say is a fact. So I dont blame them. Edited (4/20/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: ´Genocide´ cartoon in French school shocks Turkish students

3170.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Apr 2012 Fri 07:51 pm   Quoting lemon Since when you become a god who reads minds and motivations of others?         You do the same thing. How do you know I desperately want Turkey to join EU? If Turkey joins  what will change for me? Nothing. And I know EU will never accept Turkey with its that much population. Only thing that makes me mad is their hyporacy.   You say I shouldnt be mad. Why not? That man carries skulls on his back doesnt symbolise Turkey? Am I not a Turk? Should I not mind this insult because I dont want Turkey to join EU.   I really dont understand your logic.

Thread: ´Genocide´ cartoon in French school shocks Turkish students

3171.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Apr 2012 Fri 12:23 pm   Quoting lemon     Do you want to enter EU? Tell me honestly! No.

Thread: ´Genocide´ cartoon in French school shocks Turkish students

3172.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Apr 2012 Thu 06:35 pm   Quoting jolanaze It is really disgusting!!!! be happy you have not joined.... It is just hole for your money.... Many  European countries in EU were colonialist and they really committed big crimes against humanity. And yet they think they are innocent like doves and only Turkey is bad. This is hypocracy. They should look at the mirror first.   Edited (4/19/2012) by gokuyum Edited (4/19/2012) by gokuyum Edited (4/19/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: ´Genocide´ cartoon in French school shocks Turkish students

3173.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Apr 2012 Thu 06:25 pm Take your EU and insert it back where it came out! Hypocrites Edited (4/19/2012) by gokuyum Edited (4/19/2012) by gokuyum Edited (4/19/2012) by gokuyum Edited (4/19/2012) by gokuyum tunci liked this message

Thread: Language Exchange

3174.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Apr 2012 Thu 01:21 am I want to learn Arabic and in return I can teach Turkish. I want to learn the dialect which is spoken in middle east. I have a good knowldege of Turkish grammar. I know English. If someone is interested, please pm me.

Thread: The Name of Istanbul

3175.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Apr 2012 Sun 03:52 am   Quoting lemon     Thank you for confirming my thoughts re: religions. As far as I remember you were not muslim. You seemed to be a seeker. I am a Muslim seeker now Although you were right in your post above I dont think you know much of religions and their history. You are wrong. I read a lot about them. For example  this week I read 4 books about Kabalah and mystism. I dont know a single person here on TC who would match me in this regard. So I simply often give up on arguing. It makes me tired, it makes me feel talking to a bunch of pre-school children. You should show your wisdom if you have. What do you say about similarities between paganism and christianity? You blame us being pagans. What would you say if I blamed you with the same thing? Take care! You too.           Edited (4/15/2012) by gokuyum Edited (4/15/2012) by gokuyum Edited (4/15/2012) by gokuyum Edited (4/15/2012) by gokuyum Edited (4/15/2012) by gokuyum Edited (4/15/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: The Name of Istanbul

3176.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Apr 2012 Sat 05:31 pm   Quoting lemon     Crusifix symbolizes a tool on which Jesus died as was prophesized. I dont worship a crusifix (many evangelical Christians dont). Crusifix is a dead object. It is not God. Only God must be worshipped. According to your wonderful logic why do you worship Moon and Sun?  1)There is a crescent symbol. And some people  believe it symbolises a moon god. Maybe before Islam it was symbolising it. But after Islam, it became a symbol of Muslim countries. Now it is not a symbol of moon God. 2)You should know this. People dont easily give up their cultures, symbols, rituals. They transform them. And they make them compitable with the new religion. You can find many parallel things in Christianity with paganism. http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa1.htm Look at this site and you will see. 3)We dont worship a moon God. We worship same God of Christians. God of Jesus, Moses, David and etc... 4)Knowledge is power.

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

3177.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Apr 2012 Sat 04:35 am   Quoting Abla Translation attempt. If someone was so good and took a look.   1. Psychological research shows that incompetence deprives people of the ability to recognize their own incompetence. Psikolojik araştırma beceriksizliğin insanları kendi beceriksizliğini anlayabilmesinden mahrum ettiğini gösterir. (bt: gösteriyor)   2. To put it bluntly, dumb people are too dumb to know it. Açık söylemek gerekirse, aptallar bunu bilmek için çok aptaldır.   3. Similarly, unfunny people don´t have a good enough sense of humor to notice this. Aynı şekilde, komik olmayan insanların bunu farketmeleri için yeterince iyi espri anlayışları yok.   4. David Dunning, a psychologist at Cornell University, has demonstrated that humans find it "intrinsically difficult to get a sense of what we don´t know." Cornell Ûniversitesi psikologu David Dunning, "ne bilmediğimizin farkında olmalarının insanlara çok zor geldiğini" diye ispat etti.   5. Whether an individual lacks competence in logical reasoning, emotional intelligence, humor or even chess abilities, the person still tends to rate his or her skills above average. Bireynin mantıksal düşünmesi, duygusal zekası, espri anlayışı ya da satrançta yeteneği eksik de olsa becerilerinin ortalamanın üzerinde olduğunu düşünme eğilimi gösterir.   6. If only we knew ourselves better. Keşke kendimizi daha iyi bilseydik.   7. Dunning believes people´s inability to assess their own knowledge is the cause of many of society´s ills. Dunning, insanların kendi bilgisini değerlendirememesinin toplumsal hastalıkların birçoğunun nedeni olduğuna inanıyor.   8. Along the same lines, people who aren´t talented in a given area tend not to be able to recognize the talents or good ideas of others, from co-workers to politicians. Aynı şekilde, belli bir alanda yeteneksiz olan insanlar başkalarının  - iş arkadaşlarından siyasetçilere  -  iyi fikirlerini anlayamama eğilimi gösterirler.   9. The ultimate takeaway of the research is the reminder that you really may not be as great as you think you are. Araştırmanın esas fikri si gerçekten de düşündüğün kadar harika gerçekten olmadığının hatırlatmasıdır.   10. And you might not be right about the things you believe you´re right about. Haklı olduğuna inandığın şeyler hakkında haklı olmayabilirsin.   11. And if you try to joke about this, you might not come off as funny as you think. Ve bunlara dair şaka yapmak istersen, belki düşündüğün kadar komik görünmezsin.

Thread: T-E very short

3178.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Apr 2012 Fri 11:41 pm   Quoting Abla     My Try:   Let the one who loves tell the one he/she loves that he/she loves her/him.   great

Thread: would someone correct my translation from eng. into turkish :)

3179.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Apr 2012 Fri 11:40 pm   Quoting harp00n   1. Everybody goes to the kitchen. Herkes mutfağa  gider.    2. All students do the homework. Tüm öğrenciler ödevlerini yaparlar.    3. All of us see nothing. Hiç birimiz birşey görmüyoruz.   4. I would like to say something. Bir şey söylemek istiyorum.   5. Nobody reads this book. Bu kitabı hiç kimse okumaz.       yolla222 liked this message

Thread: Hymns (İlahiler)

3180.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Apr 2012 Fri 03:28 pm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWPyZlHFpz4

Thread: The Name of Istanbul

3181.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Apr 2012 Thu 12:51 pm   Quoting lemon You people even dont realize that you worship Sun and Moon. None of you even make an attempt to conduct a research why you have Sun and Moon symbols. Faith must be verifiable. There are must be proofs and witnesses to claims made by people you choose to believe.     Oh really? You have a crucifix symbol. So according to your poor logic, does it mean you worship a crucifix? Edited (4/12/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: T to E please^^

3182.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Apr 2012 Thu 12:42 pm   Quoting lakklo YOL GİDENİNDİR PEŞİNDEN AĞLAYAMAM........... YÜREĞİM AHIR DEĞİLDİR HER ÖKÜZÜ BAĞLAYAMAM..........   The road belongs to goer, I cant cry after him.... My heart isnt a barn, I cant put every ox into it....   Note: Bağlamak means "to tie". I prefered "put into" instead of it. Edited (4/12/2012) by gokuyum archinia liked this message

Thread: -Ip + LOC?

3183.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Apr 2012 Wed 02:58 pm   Quoting tunci     You are right Gokuyum. Why did I say that way I dont know It is stresses and conjoins two clauses. It is normal. Dont worry. Sometimes our brain sees things very differently.    tunci liked this message

Thread: -Ip + LOC?

3184.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Apr 2012 Wed 02:46 pm   Quoting tunci     There is one event but two actions. As it is a compound verb two actions combined with 1.[hidden "ve" in the first sentence "ıp"] and conjunction "da" in the second sentence. However in the second sentence "da" is making the action "adverb". [ Nasıl boynunu bükmüssün ? Yollarıma bakarak ] 1. Yollarıma bakmışsın ve hep boynunu bükmüşsün. 2. Yollarıma bakarak [bakıp da] hep boynunu bükmüşsün. [but subordinate clause is obeying the main clause in Tense wise which is reported tense "miş" [both actions are performed at the same time]       Tunci bakıp is already an adverb. - da doesnt make it an adverb. It connects it with the rest of the sentence and it also stresses it.

Thread: Christians in Turkey celebrate Easter Sunday

3185.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2012 Sun 11:37 pm   Quoting tunci      Don´t worry. You are the least fanatic person in this site as I have seen worse ones.. Compared to Lemon you are "John Lennon ".. I guess it wont be long before she joins into this discussion.  as she likes to discuss religous issues...   Oh holy God no! not lemon! I was bored tunci and you know I like annoying people. You are a good person.Take care. lemon liked this message

Thread: Hymns (İlahiler)

3186.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2012 Sun 11:12 pm   Quoting Abla   You must understand, gokuyum, that there are many obstacles for a foreigner. It’s not only the language which is trouble enough, it’s also the difference in culture, the different era we are living, our preconceptions. Few people enjoy old poetry of their own country even. You need to explain it, make the thread a course for those who are interested. For instance, when tunci pointed out the purity of the language, its close connection to local dialects I looked at the lines with different eyes. Things like this are not self-evident unless you explain them.   A collection of Yunus Emre´s poetry has been translated into Finnish by Suna-Mariya Önder.         Always grammar comes first for you It is good that you have some poems of him in Finnish.

Thread: Christians in Turkey celebrate Easter Sunday

3187.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2012 Sun 11:09 pm I hope I dont look like a religious fanatic Sometimes I just like annoying people and make them uncomfortable. Peace.   Note: It still doesnt make sense for me

Thread: Christians in Turkey celebrate Easter Sunday

3188.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2012 Sun 11:01 pm   Quoting tunci   Note : Happy Easter to All !          Tüm Hristiyanların Paskalya Bayramı kutlu olsun !   I dont judge you tunci. I am talking generally. And it is mostly a logical issue for me. Now lets tanslate this last sentence to English. It is something like this: May God bless the Easter Day of all christians.   Here are some simple facts: 1)Muslims believe God is Allah. 2)Muslims believe Quran is the word of Allah. 3) All muslims must accept what Quran says.   This sentence is problematic because:   1)Easter day is the celebration of resurraction of Christ 2)God says in Quran Christ dint die on crucifix and he took Christ near him. 3)You wish God to bless Easter day of All Christians.   My question is: How is this possible for a muslim?   This is only a logical question. Peace.       Edited (4/8/2012) by gokuyum Edited (4/8/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Christians in Turkey celebrate Easter Sunday

3189.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2012 Sun 09:41 pm Some of us celebrate Noel but we dont celebrate Easter. Because its the celebration of the resurrection of Christ. If muslims believe Jesus didn´t die on crucifix and God took Jesus near him; so why some muslims celebrate Christians in this day?   Note: I asked this question for mental gymnastics. I dont mean to disrespect Christians.

Thread: Hymns (İlahiler)

3190.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2012 Sun 09:25 pm   Quoting tunci     Unfortunately as you said , not many foreigners know him. Yes, Many writers considered him as the most important poet in Turkish history and gave a great impact in Turkish culture. In various ways this can be seen. There were days that purifying Turkish language was a struggle. Yunus poetry becomes the prime example of the dialect of Anatolian people. Many authors declare that many idioms in everyday language are actually verses from his poetry. We definetely need to see more poems of him on this website. It seems nobody cares about our beloved Turkish poetry. But I still translate them. We can talk about it and tell eachother what we already know all day and night I guess only a Turk understands another Turk and feels the same way.   Edited (4/8/2012) by gokuyum Edited (4/8/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: T-E- A Long Letter- What is the meaning...?

3191.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2012 Sun 09:15 pm   Quoting gokuyum     Generally it says you dont care about her. And if you ended your relationship, you should inform her. But it seems she still loves you. By the way do you have a lesbian relationship? Both of you are female Or may be this letter is not for you. You are the new lover of the man who this letter was written for. Too complicated. My brain will explode.   Edited (4/8/2012) by gokuyum rubyraven7, lorelaicole and Hallederiz liked this message

Thread: T-E- A Long Letter- What is the meaning...?

3192.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2012 Sun 09:13 pm   Quoting rubyraven7 Ha!  Thank you all so much for your funny comments.  But, really, thank you to the person who added the punctuations.  The letter doesn´t have to be translated word for word, if someone could just tell me the meaning behind it, I would appreciate it; even if it is "freshman."   THanks again     Generally it says you dont care about her. And if you ended your relationship, you should inform her. But it seems she still loves you. Edited (4/8/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Hymns (İlahiler)

3193.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2012 Sun 09:07 pm   Quoting tunci   Thanks Gokuyum for your great work ! I like Yunus Emre. He is a great Turkish poet and Sufi mystic.   I agree Tunci. Yunus Emre is the most famous poet in Turkish literature. But not many foreigners know him.

Thread: Hymns (İlahiler)

3194.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2012 Sun 04:03 pm İlahi Hymn Acep şu yerde var m´ola Şöyle garip bencileyin Bağrı başlı gözü yaşlı Şöyle garip bencileyin I wonder if there is a stranger like me here? Someone whose heart is wounded and tears on his eyes? A stranger like me? Kimseler garip olmasın Hasret odına yanmasın Hocam kimseler duymasın Şöyle garip bencileyin May nobody be a stranger. May nobody burn in the fire of longing. My hodja! May nobody hear a stranger like me. Nice bu dert ile yanam Ecel ere bir gün ölem Meğerki sinimde bulam Şöyle garip bencileyin How long may I burn with this sorrow? May death come, may I die. Apprently may I find in my grave a stranger like me. Gezdim Urum ile Şam´ı Yukarı illeri kamu Çok istedim bulamadım Şöyle garip bencileyin I wander Anatolia and Damascus. All the countries above. I wanted a lot but couldnt find a stranger like me. Söyler dilim ağlar gözüm Gariplere göynür özüm Meğerki gökte yıldızım Şöyle garip bencileyin My tongue says, my eyes cry. I feel a lot of sorrow for strangers. Apprently my star in the sky is a stranger like me. Bir garip ölmüş diyeler Üç günden sonra duyalar Soğuk su ile yuyalar Şöyle garip bencileyin May they say a stranger died. May they hear after three days. May they wash  with cold water a stranger like me. Hey Emre´m Yunus biçare Bulunmaz derdine çare Var imdi gez şardan şara Şöyle garip bencileyin O my Emre! Yunus is helpless. A cure cant be found for his sorrow. Now go and travel cities. (Like) a stranger like me.   Yunus Emre (1240 - 1321) Edited (4/8/2012) by gokuyum Edited (4/8/2012) by gokuyum Edited (4/8/2012) by gokuyum Edited (4/8/2012) by gokuyum alameda and tunci liked this message

Thread: appreciate so much! lutfan

3195.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2012 Sun 03:17 pm Then I recommend cucumber to you too. Quoting Abla What are you laughing at? I am sitting here with the honey mask Edited (4/8/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: appreciate so much! lutfan

3196.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2012 Sun 03:11 pm   Quoting turkishmaster   secret of her beauty is honey mask.  she spreads honey on her face . after waiting 15 - 20 minutes   she washs her face. that is all.   we can not buy honey to eat  but this kind of famous crazies use to to spread on their face.  what a world. in addition   you dont need to do this.   if you intend to do this, i prefer that you to eat honey instead of spreading on your face  )  or send it to me . i will eat. I spread cucumber juice on my face. This way I look smart. Recommend it.

Thread: T-E- A Long Letter- What is the meaning...?

3197.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2012 Sun 03:06 pm   Quoting rubyraven7 SLM. KUSURA BAKMA, RAHATSIZ EDİYORUM AMA ARTIK İÇİMDEKİLERİ BİLMEN GEREKİYOR. ÇÜNKÜ ARTIK İÇİME Atmak değil, duyduklarımı senin yüzüne vurmak istiyorum. MARDİNE GİDERKEN HANİ BANA HABER VERECEKTİN? BEN BUNU ERDİNÇTEN TESADÜF ESERİ DUYDUM. EGER ERDİNÇ SOYLEMESEYDİ BEN SUAN DAHİ BİLMEYECEKTİM. ARTIK SANA İNANMIYORUM. HATTININ KAYIP OLDUĞUNU SOLEDİN. BU KADAR ZAMANDIR Bİ HAT ALMADIĞINA İNANMIYORUM. ÇOK İYİ BİLİYORUM SUAN BANA ULASABİLİRSİN. BU KADAR ZAMAN OLDU SENDEN Bİ HABER ALAMADIM. SOZDE SEVGİLİN, HAYATINDAKİ EN ONEMLİ KİŞİYİM. 2GUN ONCE SAHİNLE KONUŞTUK. BANA SENİN BENDEN BASKA BİRSURU KİŞİYLE BERABER OLDUGUNU SOLEDİ. SENİ ARTIK UNUTMAM GEREKTİĞİNİ SOLEDİ. Bİ ZAMANLAR YEDİĞİN İÇTİĞİN AYRI GİTMEYEN İNSAN BİLE BUNLARI SOLEDİ SENİN İÇİN. BEN SANA NASIL GUVENEYİM? EGER BANA SOLEMEDEN BISELERI KENDI KENDINE BITIRDIYSEN BUNU BENIMDE BILMEYE HAKKIM YOK MU? O KADAR HAKKIM YOK MU? YAA BAK SAHININ ANLATTIKLARI NE KEDER DOGRU BILMIYORUM AMA SANADA SORAMIYORUM CÜNKÜ ELİMDE SANA ULASACAK Bİ NO BİLE YOK. BİTİRDİYSEN BİTTİ DE BANA. BOLE KACARAK ELİNE HİÇBİŞİ GEÇMEZ. SEN NE KADAR AKLINDA BİTİRMİŞ OLSANDA 4 SENE KOLAY DEĞİL DEĞİL. BEN SENİN GİBİ OLAMIYORUM VE SENDEN HABER BEKLİYORUM. YA GEÇERLİ Bİ AÇIKLAMA SOLE BANA YADA BİTİRDİĞİNİ SOLE. TABİ O KADAR CESARETİN VARSA. BEN BUNLARI HAKETMEDIM, HAKEDECEK HIC BISE YAPMADIM AMA EGER DEDIGI GIBI HAYATINDA BI BASKASI WARSA, BU 4SENEYI HARCADIYSAN HAKKIMI HELAL ETMIORUM SANA. BASKASININ ELINE NASIL DOKUNACAKSIN, BASKASINA NASIL ASKIM DIYEBILECEKSIN, BASKASINA NASIL DOKUNABILECEK, ONU UTANMADAN NASIL OPEBILECEKSIN? BUNLARI BI BASKASIYLA NASIL YASAYABILECEKSIN? GECE BASINI YASTIGINA KATTIGINDA, YASADIKLARIMIZI, SENIN BENIM GOGSUMDE BENIM DE SENIN GOGSUNDE UYUDUGUMU, SENIN BANA BEN YANINDA UYURKEN SOLEDIGIN SARKILARI, SACLARIMI OKSAMANI, BENIM SEN UYURKEN SENI OPMEMI KOKLAMAMI, KOKUNU ICIME CEKMEMI, SABAHLADIGIMIZ GUNLERI, HEM KOYNUNDA HEM TELEFONDA SABAHLADIGIMIZ GECELERI, YANYANAYKEN BES DK KAWGA EDIP SONRA BUTUN GECE BERABER SARILARAK UYUDUGUMUZU, BUNLARIN HEPSINI NASIL BI BASKASIYLA YASAYABILECEKSIN? BUNLARI NASIL UNUTABILECEKSIN? INANMIYORUM UNUTABILECEGINE INANAMIYORUM CUNKU SEN BANA SOZ WERDIN. SEN BANA YEMIN ETTIN. SEN BANA GELECEGIMIZ ICIN SOZ WERDIN. BI BASKASIYLA YAMAPAZSSIN. EGER YAPABILIYORSAN DA, YAPARIM DIOSANDA HEP MUTLU OL O ZAMAN. HIC KIMSEYLE YASAMADIGIM YASAYAMADIGIM SEYLERI ILK SENINLE, SENDE YASADIM AMA SEN BI BASKASIYLA YASARIM DIOSAN, DICEK BISEYIM YOK. SUSUYORUM. KIB WAZGECILMEZIMM. NE OLUR HEP MUTLU OLMAYA BAK, HER ZAMAN MUTLU OL. MUTLULUKLAR .... HOSCAKALLL...AÇELYANNN...   Some punctuations. By the way his/her Turkish sucks. rubyraven7 liked this message

Thread: -Ip + LOC?

3198.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Apr 2012 Fri 10:24 pm   Quoting tunci     You are a wise man Gökuyum.   You too my friend. tunci liked this message

Thread: Who are your favourite NBA players(still playing)?

3199.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Apr 2012 Fri 10:23 pm Mines are: 1) Kobe Bryant 2) Steve Nash 3) Blake Griffin 4) Metta World Peace 5) Tim Duncan 6) Hedo Turkoglu

Thread: -Ip + LOC?

3200.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Apr 2012 Fri 10:07 pm We all make mistakes. It is very normal. I wrote adjective for "olup" but then understood that it was impossible for "olup" to be an adjective in any position in the sentence. Then I corrected it. I learnt many things from my mistakes. And I hope I will go on making mistakes again and again and someone will correct them and show me what I do wrong. Peace. tunci liked this message

Thread: Dance in Andalusia

3201.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Apr 2012 Fri 08:57 pm   Quoting Abla Maybe someone does but sorry you have the strangest taste, gokuyum.    What is wrong with strangeness? I was always a little strange

Thread: Dance in Andalusia

3202.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Apr 2012 Fri 08:42 pm Meh. Nobody is intereted in my translation. I guess nobody cares about Turkish poetry.

Thread: -Ip + LOC?

3203.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Apr 2012 Fri 08:19 pm Lets wait and see what the others say about this matter.

Thread: -Ip + LOC?

3204.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Apr 2012 Fri 08:04 pm   Quoting Abla Zengo´yu görüp de korkmamak imkansızdı. > görmek ve korkmamak   Zengo´yu görüp korkmamak imkansızdı. > görmemek ve korkmamak   Lewis´s grammar says this.   He says wrong. -de is a conjuction but it also powers the meaning of action. There is no real difference between those sentences. It was impossible not to be afraid when you saw Zengo. Edited (4/6/2012) by gokuyum Edited (4/6/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: -Ip + LOC?

3205.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Apr 2012 Fri 07:48 pm   Quoting Abla I had this understanding the -Ip form takes all its grammatical markers from the predicate verb (including negation) if the conjunction de is not put between them to prevent it. But it seems now it is not such a strict rule.   gokuyum, thanks.   Give an example please. I dont understand what you mean.

Thread: -Ip + LOC?

3206.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Apr 2012 Fri 07:40 pm maybe tunci can help us.

Thread: -Ip + LOC?

3207.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Apr 2012 Fri 07:38 pm   Quoting Abla You mean I invented the rule myself?   I made a correction ol-up is an adverb. And you can use -da after it. But it is not a rule. But if you use it you can only use it as a conjuction. Edited (4/6/2012) by gokuyum Edited (4/6/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: -Ip + LOC?

3208.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Apr 2012 Fri 07:33 pm   Quoting Abla Ok, as you are so smart what do you say about this verse:   Dünyanın en tuhaf mahlukusun yani, hani şu derya içre olup deryayı bilmiyen balıktan da tuhaf. (Nazım Hikmet)    Isn´t it strange that there is no da after olup here? Doesn´t it look like the negation in bilmiyen concerns olup also? Dear abla ol-up is an adverb there. And there is no rule that you must use -da after -up.   Ex: Bağırıp beni rahatsız etme.   Edited (4/6/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: -Ip + LOC?

3209.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Apr 2012 Fri 07:28 pm Look at how AlphaF translated it and how he/she used "and" to connect actions. Edited (4/6/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: -Ip + LOC?

3210.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Apr 2012 Fri 07:23 pm   Quoting Abla There may be a misspelling in the latter sentence, but the former with olupta I am sure about because tunci wrote it (or corrected it into this form) a couple of days ago.    In my opinion it must be seperate. I think -da is a conjuction there.

Thread: -Ip + LOC?

3211.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Apr 2012 Fri 07:05 pm   Quoting Abla Ok, thank you, AlphaF, but what does the locative ending actually bring to the meaning? Wouldn´t it be the same if it was just olup, bakıp?   I think -da there is not locative. It must be seperate. Edited (4/6/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: turkish-english

3212.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Apr 2012 Thu 07:45 pm   Quoting heli.maria Yarından sonraki gün daha iyi olacak. The day after tomorrow he´ll be better.   but how to say "The day after tomorrow will be better."   Same. A coma can help us here.

Thread: Turkish TV

3213.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Apr 2012 Thu 01:28 am   Quoting Donkeyoaty As a means of improving my Turkish, I would like to listen to some Turkish TV, preferably with English subtitles. I don´t have satalite. Perhaps there is something on U tube someone could recommend ? Thanks in advance.   Here is a tv serial with English subtitles http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_f0y3dLDHk   Edited (4/5/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Animal sounds in Turkish

3214.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Apr 2012 Thu 01:21 am   Quoting Abla But I can make the hen sound only. This is not fair. Meowww

Thread: Animal sounds in Turkish

3215.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Apr 2012 Thu 01:16 am   Quoting Abla The cock is the king.   meowww

Thread: What is the different

3216.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Apr 2012 Thu 01:05 am   Quoting nifrtity     thanks but what is the meaning of bekleyeli     since I have waited since I have been waiting since I waited Edited (4/5/2012) by gokuyum Edited (4/5/2012) by gokuyum ["since I wait" doesnt make sense or does it? :)] tunci and nifrtity liked this message

Thread: Animal sounds in Turkish

3217.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Apr 2012 Thu 12:28 am My favourite animal sound is meow. I could meow all day. Turkish is so boring. Just let me meow

Thread: I Love Turkey!!!

3218.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Apr 2012 Thu 12:19 am   Quoting Faily Running hearts, always in a rush to discover. Perhaps Turkish is not a path you want to discover. Perhaps that battle-ground is not one you will wish to walk. Because if you walk it for too long you will find unpleasant discoveries and behold truths that are unwelcoming, in Turkey. It´s not freedom to let a passion like that run you. Now to anyone who has never felt or experienced it they will not know what I´m signifying here. Though if you have felt it, it´s good but as I said do not walk the path for  too long. I took some days off from all my Turkish studies, no more Turkish influence, music, etc...I actually felt souless at first like a part of me that´s not me was gone though now actually I feel peaceful and may never have to return to Turkey, the Turkish language, etc again. As I wrote before you have to experience it to understand it, and then eventually run from it!   Turkey will miss you.   Faily liked this message

Thread: Where would you like to be buried...

3219.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Apr 2012 Thu 12:16 am I want to be buried in my bed. I am too lazy

Thread: Please....T - E

3220.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Apr 2012 Thu 12:12 am   Quoting jolanaze Please what does this mean   kuduruyorum - I go mad ? Is it possitive or negative?   senin için çıldırmak - is this the same, I am going mad about you?   Thanks a lot....... They are positive.

Thread: Can someone tell me about some more awesome turkish music?

3221.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Apr 2012 Wed 11:59 pm   Quoting Mavili Yunus Bülbül-´Yanmış Bir yürek var´ I really like much of the old Damar songs from the 70s, (or early 80s?) And also some more recent damar. This one I just found a couple days ago by Yunus Bülbül and really liking it, and some of his other songs. I presume its from the 1970s though.   Of course I have also enjoyed Ferdi Tayfur, so maybe not surprising I like this kind of songs. If you love "damar" mavili here is a song for you from Azer Bülbül (died recently). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmbb0hHWU_I

Thread: Short sentences pls...

3222.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Apr 2012 Wed 01:14 pm   Quoting Abla     My Try:   I explained it to you and apologized also, let´s not talk about others any more. I don´t want to sadden you. If you are upset I am upset too.   You are right when you think about these things but you should know what I think and feel about you is something quite different.   Great translation. I am a fan of you abla.

Thread: Animal sounds in Turkish

3223.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Apr 2012 Tue 11:37 pm   Quoting Abla       Please add chicken to your list too abla.

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

3224.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Apr 2012 Tue 11:32 pm   Quoting Abla Good. Thanks, gokuyum. It´s logical but you Turks are not always so logical. I know

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

3225.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Apr 2012 Tue 11:30 pm if you use "with" like "and" (ex: başkan ile ailesi) verb must have plural ending. Edited (4/3/2012) by gokuyum Edited (4/3/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

3226.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Apr 2012 Tue 11:28 pm   Quoting Abla     Don´t worry, I even found a reason for it...I am a grammar rat you know.   Could you answer nr 3, please. I have often been wondering this question.   If you use "with" verb must have singular ending. (Note: there is no singular ending for third person, so it will have no personal ending) Edited (4/3/2012) by gokuyum Edited (4/3/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Animal sounds in Turkish

3227.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Apr 2012 Tue 11:23 pm I am improving the list by edits. chicken: gıt gıt gıdaak

Thread: Animal sounds in Turkish

3228.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Apr 2012 Tue 11:19 pm   Quoting Abla     Fincesi budur.     great abla. thank you

Thread: Animal sounds in Turkish

3229.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Apr 2012 Tue 11:09 pm   Quoting harp00n I hope somebody dont ask their English   lol. I really dont know how to translate them.

Thread: Animal sounds in Turkish

3230.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Apr 2012 Tue 10:58 pm I will write some animals sounds in Turkish. Please write how they sound in your language.   cat: miiiyavvvv dog: hav hav crow: gaaak gaaak chicken: gıt gıt gıdaak rooster: üğüüğüürüüü sheep: meee meee cow: mööö mööööö sparrow: ciiiik ciiik frog: vırak vırak snake: tısssss wolf: aaauuuuuu horse. iiiaaaahahh donkey: aaiii aaiii   Edited (4/3/2012) by gokuyum Edited (4/3/2012) by gokuyum Edited (4/3/2012) by gokuyum Edited (4/3/2012) by gokuyum Edited (4/3/2012) by gokuyum ahmet_a1b2, Efi70, Sweet_Paradise, lorelaicole and harp00n liked this message

Thread: Dance in Andalusia

3231.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Apr 2012 Tue 10:34 pm Endülüs´te Raks Dance in Andalusia Zil, şal ve gül. Bu bahçede raksın bütün hızı... Şevk akşamında Endülüs üç defa kırmızı... Bell, shawl and rose. All the speed of dance is in this garden.... It is three times red at the night of desire in Andalusia. Aşkın sihirli şarkısı yüzlerce dildedir. İspanya neş´esiyle bu akşam bu zildedir. Magical song of the love is on the hundreds of tongues. Spain with its all joy is now at this bell. Yelpaze çevrilir gibi birden dönüşleri, İşveyle devriliş, saçılış, örtünüşleri... Their sudden spins like turning a fan Their overturns, opening and covering themselves with coquetry Her rengi istemez gözümüz şimdi aldadır; İspanya dalga dalga bu akşam bu şaldadır. Our eyes dont want all colours, they are now on red; Spain is at this shawl wave on wave this evening Alnında halka halkadır aşüfte kâkülü, Göğsünde yosma Gırnata´nın en güzel gülü... Her lascivious bangs are curly on her forehead, On her breast is the most beautiful rose of loose Granada Altın kadeh her elde, güneş her gönüldedir İspanya varlığıyla bu akşam bu güldedir. Golden cup is in every hand, sun is in every heart Spain with its existance is at this rose this evening. Raks ortasında bir durup oynar, yürür gibi; Bir baş çevirmesiyle bakar öldürür gibi... In the middle of the dance she stops and dances like she walks She looks with a movement of head like she kills. Gül tenli, kor dudaklı, kömür gözlü, sürmeli... Şeytan diyor ki, sarmalı, yüz kerre öpmeli... A skin like rose, lips like ember, eyes like coal, blackened with kohl Devil says, she should be hugged, she should be kissed hundred times.  Gözler kamaştıran şala, meftun eden güle, Her kalbi dolduran zile, her sineden: "Ole!" For the shawl that dazzles eyes, for the rose that makes you crazy For the bell that fills every heart, from all chests "Ole!" Yahya Kemal Beyatlı (1884- 1958) Edited (2/10/2014) by gokuyum Edited (2/10/2014) by gokuyum Lololooo, TheNemanja and alameda liked this message

Thread: Buy a Brand New Kitty

3232.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Mar 2012 Fri 01:19 pm If you order me in a week. This bunny comes with &10 discount. I really like playing with her.   Edited (3/30/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Help me translate?

3233.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Mar 2012 Fri 01:16 pm   Quoting slovakianboy How do you say this in Turkish?   I do me, so you do you.    Teşekür ederim!  Ben kendimi yapıyorum, sen de kendini yapıyorsun.   tunci and harp00n liked this message

Thread: Sorry brother ...

3234.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Mar 2012 Fri 01:13 pm   Quoting sufler If we´re speaking of cartoons already, could you help me translating this one? I understand what they literally say: A: We´ve made a beautiful snowman. B: Yes/OK, but you probably don´t take this snowman very seriously. But I really can´t get the point; what´s the sense of this cartoon, what is supposed to be funny here? Maybe I translated something wrong... This cartoon is not funny. This man´s (Salih Memecan) cartoons are not funny at all.

Thread: 5 kilo fazlam var...

3235.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Mar 2012 Fri 01:10 pm   Quoting Abla It seems that you can create a relaxed colloquial tone just by adding bi in unexpectable places.   What does amına koyım mean?   It is a swearing. We sometimes use swearings to express our amazement, displeasure, happiness and other feelings. It is like saying "oh fuck it"

Thread: Buy a Brand New Kitty

3236.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Mar 2012 Thu 11:22 pm I am a brand new kitty. I am not even 3 months old. I dont eat a lot. Just give me my milk on time. If I am in mood I will let you caress me. You can take me in your bed. I promise I will not fart. I like playing with bunnies. You should buy a bunny too if you want to buy me. I am only ten dollars in buypet.com for a limited time. I am waiting for you.   Aida krishan liked this message

Thread: Why is Turkish difficult?

3237.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Mar 2012 Tue 08:30 pm Learning Turkish can be difficult but it was not easy for me to learn English too. It was so hard first year. I was going to Anatolia High School ( a type of school that they teach you really good English). I was twelve. And first year was preparotary year. And they taught us only English everyday for a year. But my scores were low. I remember crying and saying I would never learn English. But in years I learnt it. And I got the highest scores in the class. But it was not easy to learn it. Even my parents hired a private English teacher for me for a year. English is sometimes still difficult for me.   Result: No pain no gain. Leylak111 and Faily liked this message

Thread: E to T, a message to my aunt lutfen :)

3238.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Mar 2012 Tue 08:19 pm   Quoting harp00n     Merhaba teyzem,  Senden haber almak harika. Ben iyiyim, sen nasılsın ? Bu yaz en iyi arkadaşımla yine Avrupa turuna çıkıyorum. Bir kaç ülkeyi gezip, Türkiye´de Antalya, Bodrum ve Marmaris´te kaldıktan sonra Kıbrıs´a geçeceğiz. Türkiye´de kaldığımda beni gözettiğin/kolladığın için teşekür ederim. Ayrılmadan önce sana birşeyler alacak fırsatım olmadı, ama söz veriyorum bunu yapacağım. Seni çok özledim. Umarım senin ve ailen için herşey yolunda gidiyordur. Amcaya ve Mehmet´e benden selam söyle. a little correction. peace.   milano liked this message

Thread: Why is Turkish difficult?

3239.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Mar 2012 Mon 10:09 pm What do you think about this topic? Do you agree? Is Turkish really difficult? http://www.elleninturkey.com/2010/12/grueling-grammar-why-turkish-is-so-hard.html Grueling Grammar: Why Turkish is so hard to learn       One of the reasons I decided on Antalya, as opposed to a sunny spot in the Far East or Africa, was that I would be able to blend in to some extent. Based on the number of people who stop me to ask for directions,  I´d say that I more or less fit in visually. But I also thought that since Turkish doesn’t require learning characters or tones it wouldn’t be that difficult to learn.  Turkish, like all the other languages I speak, is composed of an alphabet whose letters combine to make words, which then combine using grammar to make sentences. How hard could it be?      But the similarity to western European languages ends there.  Learning to speak Turkish has presented quite a challenge. As a native speaker of English I had a head start learning German, French, Italian, Spanish and Dutch. Because English is a Germanic language, many of the words are similar to their counterparts in German and Dutch. Because of the Norman Conquest there’s a strong French influence in English, resulting in many words with Latin roots. So any literate speaker of English can pick up a text of a Germanic or Romance language and find at least a few words to hang on to.      For example, take the sentence “I read my book”. In German, “Ich lese mein Buch”. The similarities of I and Ich, my and mein, and book and Buch are obvious. In French, “Je lis mon livre” is a step further away from English, but you still have the “m” clue on the first person possessive, and once you see the relation of livre to library, the sentence is easily learned. In Turkish, “Kitabim okurum” gives you no clues at all. Not only is the lexicography unrelated, the grammar is the opposite of what we’re used to. In Germanic and Romance languages you say “I read my book”. In Turkish what you say is “Bookmy readI”. And it only gets worse from there. If the one reading the book is the man at the table you say “Tableat sitting man a book reads."       Now that I´ve been studying Turkish for seven months I feel like I have a decoder ring that allows me to understand written Turkish.  When I come across a difficult sentence I translate it word for word in my head, noting the suffixes that indicate subject, object, possessor, possessed, etc.  I can usually figure it out.  Listening to Turkish is another matter, since I can´t press a pause button on people who talk to me.  I can and do ask them to speak slowly, and that helps.       Hardest of all, of course, is putting these words together myself to communicate verbally.  Needless to say, I "uh" and "ah" a lot, and have even started to say "sey" ("thing") as the Turks do when at a loss for words.  Saying "um" is a no-no, as it sounds like a very nasty Turkish word for a female body part.  You see, the pitfalls are everywhere.      Even so, I don´t understand how so many Europeans can live here for years without learning the language.  They are missing so much.  Yes, learning Turkish is difficult, but I will persevere.  A year from now, very good Turkish speakablewillbeI suzan ahmet, Sir_Robalot, stumpy, nifrtity and Efi70 liked this message

Thread: Questions

3240.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Mar 2012 Sat 07:55 pm   Quoting Abla       Super. gokuyum, this is approximately what I suggested in 2a. It is possible. Because we say: 60 kilo ağırlık-ı-ndayım. 1.70 metre boy-u-ndayım. (We dont say metre often. We say 1.70 boyundayım) 60 santim en-i-ndeyim.   But the question is why we dont say 25 yıl yaşındayım? In English there is yıl (year). I am 25 years old.   So the question is: Did we use "yıl" before "yaş" in the past? We should examine old texts.   Edited (3/24/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Questions

3241.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Mar 2012 Sat 07:31 pm   Quoting Abla I have tried to read carefully everything that natives have said in this thread. To sum up everything as I have understood it I noticed the following:   The problem about the structure 35 yaş|ı|n|da|yım was the adjective nature of Turkish numerals. In a compound they don’t demand a POSS in the next noun. For a while I was suspecting this because all adjectives as a matter of fact can be used as nouns. But it seems that numbers are especially sensitive adjectives: they hardly ever stand on their own, there has to be a noun after them (tane, kişi). The problem remains.   As the POSS in yaş|ı|n|da|yım can’t be motivated by the compound it has to be motivated by something else. I think there are two alternatives that have been mentioned in the course of this discussion. Actually one of them has been shot down already but I still try to rise it up:   1. Analogy of cases where the expression of measure is between the numeral and the quality, like 1.80 (meter) boy|u|n|da|yım.   2. Ellipsis.   a) There is something that we can’t see between 35 and yaşındayım. A measure. yil, yaş? In this case yaş in yaşındayım wouldn’t mean ‘year’ but ‘age’ (which is its first equivalent in some dictionaries). The structure would be like in the boy thing in nr 1.   b) There is something that we can’t see before 35. A genitive marked noun: something like yaşın, yıllarımın, zamanın… I suggested this but scalpel said in that case the numeral should be the ordinal 35inci. Is it impossible to imagine that it once was ordinal but it was simplified? In other languages I have seen processes like this. It seems like a very logical development because the ordinal marker is nothing but a burden from the point of view of information. But if something like this really happened there should be marks of it in old litteral language, I suppose.   My knowledge is limited but a learner can speculate as much as she wants. If she has the guts. A simple explanation try of me:   25 yaş-ı-n-da-y-ım As you know we can use possive -ı if it is a part of noun clouse. There are two options here:   1)Definite noun clause: If there is a possesive -ı in the sentence it belongs to 3.person. If we put "onun" into this sentence. It doesnt make sense.   2)Indefinite noun clause: It is also not an idefinite noun clause like kapı kolu, araba tekeri because 25 functions as an adjective here.   Another theory:   If it is 25 (yıl) yaşındayım than it is correct. I looked at google and i found "yıl yaşında" http://www.google.com.tr/#hl=tr&sclient=psy-ab&q=y%C4%B1l+ya%C5%9F%C4%B1nda&oq=y%C4%B1l+ya%C5%9F%C4%B1nda&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=serp.3...595l2779l2l3424l5l5l0l0l0l1l1781l6027l6-2j2j1l5l0.frgbld.&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=d651b3bd1e9eca4c&biw=1138&bih=464   Result: I am not sure anymore.   Edited (3/24/2012) by gokuyum Edited (3/24/2012) by gokuyum Edited (3/24/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Ottoman Poetry

3242.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Mar 2012 Fri 07:22 am   Quoting Mavili Seems there is a hole in knowledge from these poems. As yet I had not found any sources that tell what languages were being spoken in the later years, but I had figured Arabic was being spoken in the Ottoman empire at least for most of it, Or was this Turkish being spoken up until the last Sultan (1913)? Curiosity of Türk history came with learning the language, for me at least. Ive been reading about ´Ottoman´ culture and military history (because of this I wish I had a way to see that film Fetih 1453)  Turkish was being spoken in Ottoman empire. But Ottoman Turkish was used as a written language by intellectuals. We used Arab alphabet but we didnt speak Arabic in daily life. Arabic was the language of science. In schools they taught mathematic, astronomy, chemistry, etc, with Arabic.   tonmonicon, Salma G., bejo and tunci liked this message

Thread: Ottoman Poetry

3243.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Mar 2012 Thu 11:41 am                                    -3- Halk içinde mu´teber bir nesne yok devlet gibi Olmaya devlet cihânda bir nefes sihhat gibi There is no worthy thing like prosperity among the folk There is no prosperity like a breath of health in the world. Ko bu ays u isreti çünkim fenâdur âkibet Yâr-i baaki ister isen olmaya tâat gibi Leave this junket because its end is bad. If you want an everlasting beloved, there is no other than worshipping. Olsa kumlar sagisinca ömrüne hadd ü aded Gelmeye bu sise-i çarh içre bir sâat gibi If you had days to live as many as sands They wouldnt be even one hour in this bottle of heavens. Saltanat didükleri ancak cihân gavgaasidur Olmaya baht u saâdet âlem-i vahdet gibi The thing that they call sultanate is only fight for world. There is no fortune and happiness like the universe of unity. Ger huzûr itmek dilesen ey Muhibbî fârig ol Var midur vahdet makaami gûse-i uzlet gibi If you want to be in peace Muhibbi, be away from everything. Is there a place of unity like the place of loneliness  ?                                                    Muhibbi (Suleiman the Magnificent) 1494-1566   Here is a poem of another poet emperor. First couplet of poem is very famous.   Edited (3/22/2012) by gokuyum Edited (3/22/2012) by gokuyum Edited (3/22/2012) by gokuyum Edited (3/22/2012) by gokuyum Edited (3/22/2012) by gokuyum Edited (3/22/2012) by gokuyum Edited (3/22/2012) by gokuyum Edited (3/22/2012) by gokuyum Edited (2/10/2014) by gokuyum tonmonicon, Salma G., DisiBayanAsk and tunci liked this message

Thread: Ottoman Poetry

3244.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Mar 2012 Thu 10:53 am   Quoting Abla Is this the same person whom the Arabs call Muhammad il-Fatah (“Muhammad the Opener” ) and who conquered Istanbul from the Patriarch of Constantinopole in the 15th century?  -  I didn’t know he was a poet but little I know. Poetry was very much appreciated in early Islamic societies. It has been told that some of the Prophet’s closest people, for instance his wife Aisha, had great knowledge in poetry. This side of Islam, appreciation of scholarship and tolerance of worldly life, is unfortunately not very much stressed by islamists of these days. This poem is real lyrics in the sense that it doesn’t manifest anything but reflects a person’s inner life, insecurity and the psychological dissonance we all struggle with. Thank you for adding today´s portion of culture, gokuyum.   Yes. We call him Fatih Sultan Mehmet. Fatih means opener or conquerer. Mehmet is a variation of Muhammed in Turkish. There are other poet emperors too. I will also translate their poems. DisiBayanAsk liked this message

Thread: Ottoman Poetry

3245.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Mar 2012 Thu 09:57 am                                              -2- Sakiya mey sun ki bir gün lalezar elden gider  O cupbearer! Present me wine. One day tulip garden will go out of hand. Sakiya mey sun ki bir gün lalezar elden gider Erişir fasl-ı hazan bağ-u bahar elden gider. O cupbearer! Present me wine. One day tulip garden will go out of hand. Fall season will reach, vineyard of spring will go out of hand. Her nice Zühd-ü salaha mail olur hatırım Gördüğümce ol nigarı ihtiyar elden gider. Whenever my mind is willing for worshipping and peace, When I see that beautiful, my will goes out of hand. Şöyle hak oldum ki, ah etmeye havf eyler gönül Lacerem bad-ı saba ile gubar elden gider. I have become earth, my heart is even afraid of sighing Without doubt, with the morning wind dust will go out of hand. Gırre olma dilbera hüsnü cemale kıl vefa Baki kalmaz kimseye nakşünigar elden gider. O beloved! Dont be proud of your beauty. Be faithful! Because beauty will not last forever, it will go out of hand. Yar içün ağyar ile merdane ceng etsem gerek İt gibi murdar rakib ölmezse yar elden gider. I must fight bravely with the rivals for the beloved. If dog like rival doesnt die, bloved will go out of hand                                                                              Avni (Fatih Sultan Mehmet)                                                                                      1432-1481 This is a poem of Ottoman Emperor Mehmed II. who conquered İstanbul. He was a good poet and his pen name was Avni.   Edited (3/22/2012) by gokuyum Edited (3/22/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/24/2012) by gokuyum Edited (2/10/2014) by gokuyum tonmonicon, Salma G., nemanjasrb and DisiBayanAsk liked this message

Thread: t to e

3246.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Mar 2012 Thu 09:06 am   Quoting Abla     My Guess: Ok, you say we want to stay mysterious. No no, I made a translation, only the two of mine was were only a gesture.       Edited (3/22/2012) by gokuyum nifrtity liked this message

Thread: can I say

3247.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Mar 2012 Wed 07:59 am   Quoting Abla I asked because I found this in the dictionary:              Bundan sonra ne Sarıyer´e, ne Marıyer´e gider; hiçbir yere gitmez.   There seems to be three different negations. Is it wrong? I think there must be another verb in the sentence. "gitmez" only belongs to "hiçbir yere".   elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: Practice with a Proverb-excessive adjective

3248.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Mar 2012 Wed 07:50 am   Quoting Mavili Biri asla öğrenmek için fazla yaşlı. -"One(someone) is never too old to learn."  I had thought to use -çok initially but none of it´s uses seem to fit in with "excessiveness" which  is how "too" is being used here. My instinct to use "-mek için" simply because I was not sure how to tie the excessive adjective in with the verb. Another example: "The kitten is too small to jump up on(to) the bed." Where you have the excessive adjective (too small), followed by verb infinitive (to jump) Though I know how -mek için is supposed to be used   Biri öğrenmek için asla yaşlı değil.   Think"asla" here as "ever" not "never". So we need to make sentence negative with "değil". Mavili liked this message

Thread: Saying \"how to...\" in Turkish

3249.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Mar 2012 Tue 12:50 pm   Quoting sufler Merhaba! Could you tell me how do you build in Turkish impersonal constructions with "how to..."? For example: I don´t know how to say this in Turkish. Türkçe bu nasıl söylenir bilmiyorum. or maybe passive? Türkçe bunun nasıl söylendiğini bilmiyorum     emreteacher liked this message

Thread: Questions

3250.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Mar 2012 Tue 06:21 am   Quoting scalpel     Gokuyum, may I ask if you don´t mind why did you edit this "short message" four times in 25 minutes?     I made some explanations on matter. But after reading previous posts I understood there was no need for further explanations and I deleted them. Edited (3/20/2012) by gokuyum

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3251.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Mar 2012 Tue 06:17 am , Edited (3/20/2012) by gokuyum

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3252.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Mar 2012 Mon 06:55 pm   Quoting acute we must now make this room private so that we don´t stress others............  but when we have our first fight i will be sure to ask for translations  thats all for now folks   Privacy i like that word.

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3253.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Mar 2012 Mon 06:49 pm   Quoting acute ohhhhhhh dirty dirty it is getting hot in this room. Bring on the steam and oil   I will. Let me take my towel

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3254.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Mar 2012 Mon 06:44 pm   Quoting acute hey who gets to name the cyber babies? You or me. We can have twins I will name one Byte Me   the other can be "I am your usb". lol Edited (3/19/2012) by gokuyum

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3255.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Mar 2012 Mon 06:40 pm   Quoting acute     like driving in istanbul right..............   or in Samsun

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3256.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Mar 2012 Mon 06:38 pm   Quoting acute   I will never let you win Gokuyum only let you play the game Dear Gokuyum this is now our first week aniversary.......ahhhhhh what a love fest we are having on the internet soon you will want to have cyber babies floating around those cute little babies bouncing from forum to forum........ such bliss.......... op op   wow we are going too fast without brakes   acute liked this message

Thread: Questions

3257.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Mar 2012 Mon 05:34 pm I agree with scalpel. I cant believe that Edited (3/19/2012) by gokuyum Edited (3/19/2012) by gokuyum Edited (3/19/2012) by gokuyum Edited (3/19/2012) by gokuyum

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3258.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Mar 2012 Mon 05:19 pm Here is a discussion :  http://www.turkcedersi.gen.tr/modules/newbbex/viewtopic.php?topic_id=195&forum=8

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

3259.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Mar 2012 Mon 05:05 pm   Quoting Abla gokuyum, thank you always. I am sick of the mistakes that I make in basic structures. That´s why I thought I should for the change take a step back and try something simple. That´s the only reason it is not very red this time. I never really understood when the infinitive in front of için takes a POSS and when not. Maybe you could explain it to me. There are two examples here:   Of course the latter is general in meaning, the subject is anyone. Suppose there was a definite subject there, for instance ben               Bir itfaiyeci olma____ için yüzebilmem gerekir mi? would the infinitive be asking for a POSS?   You can use possesive or you can use it in its infinitive form. Both make sense here.

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3260.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Mar 2012 Mon 04:52 pm   Quoting tristerecuerdos     what the hell do you want from me? go find someone else to fight with! im not the only one asking for translations.    Relax my friend. It is not end of the world. You see things bigger than they are at your age. You will find another girl. Note: And dont mess with my dear acute. You cant win. I know this  by exprience   Edited (3/19/2012) by gokuyum Edited (3/19/2012) by gokuyum acute liked this message

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3261.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Mar 2012 Mon 11:41 am   Quoting Abla Twenty yes but small:   1. May I look at the questions now? Șimdi sorulara bakabilir miyim? bakabiliyor muyum?  2. They say it may snow tomorrow. Yarın muhtemelen kar yağacak diyorlar.  3. She must visit her mother. Annesini ziyaret etmeli.  4. She had to visit her mother. Annesini ziyaret etmeliydi.  5. It might take more than a week. Bir haftadan daha fazla zaman alabilir.  6. You ought to see a doctor. Bir doktora gitmelisin. 7. They should have got back home by now. Șimdiye kadar eve gelmeliydiler. 8. He is able to offer you the best price possible. Olabilecek en iyi fiyati size verebilir. 9. We were able to get in to see the film. Filmi seyretmeyek için içeriye girebildik girebildik. 10. They haven´t been able to find the missing document. Kayıp belgeyi bulamadılar. 11. He doesn´t have to get up early. Erken kalkması gerekmez. 12. He mustn´t sing loudly. Yüksek sesle şarkı söylememeli. 13. You should have seen this film. Bu filmi görmeliydin. 14. The complete sentence must contain at least one main clause. Eksiksiz bir tümce en az bir ana tümcecik içermelidir. 15. To be grammatically complete, a sentence must have a subject, verb, and present a complete thought. Dilbilgisine uygun olması için bir tümcenin bir öznesi, bir yüklemi olmalı ve o bütün bir düşünce ifade etmelidir. 16. He must take his medicine three times a day. Günde üç kere ilacını almalı. 17. He must be French. Fransız olmalı. 18. I can´t lift that suitcase by myself. O bavulu kendi kendime kaldıramam. 19. That can´t be the right answer. Doğru yanıt olamaz. 20. Do you have to be able to swim to be a firefighter? Bir itfaiyeci olmak için yüzebilmek gerekir mi?

Thread: Short Turkish-English Translation =)

3262.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Mar 2012 Sun 03:05 pm   Quoting askcafer  Çakıcağım vurucağım ayağına değil de aşk ayağına gitmek gerek bence. Anlıyorum, üniversite yılları falan filan ama zorlamak hayal kırıklıklarını getiriyor biraz   This is slang. It is normal that it doesnt make sense for you.

Thread: lazim, gerek, meli / mali

3263.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Mar 2012 Sat 03:03 am   Quoting kayakebab I went to a lesson today and got the gist of lazım and felt confident about when to use it. I came home and looked it up in my grammar book and it said ´see gerek´. It then said gerek is more grammatically correct.   Now Im really confused as meli /mali are also for necessity..   help! There are many ways to express necessity in Turkish. Here is an example. I must go 1)Gitmeliyim. 2)Gitmem gerek. 3)Gitmem lazım.

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3264.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Mar 2012 Sat 02:59 am   Quoting lakklo yaz mı yacak mısın   will you not write? archinia liked this message

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3265.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Mar 2012 Fri 09:47 pm   Quoting lemon Kissing? Only boys? Where is my camera?    You think acute is a boy?

Thread: Pls translate this for me

3266.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Mar 2012 Fri 01:00 pm   Quoting tomac     Good to know. We got it from this part of original text - maybe we misunderstood it: slm bende sizinle tanismaktan mutluluk duyarim ismim melekce ama ne yazikki ben herzamna buraya giremiyorum I think it is a weird nickname.

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3267.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Mar 2012 Fri 12:58 pm   Quoting Abla Senmi Erken Dogdun Benmi Gec Kaldim Bu Nasil Bir Kader Söyle Bir Tanem Unutmak Istedim Unutamadim Yüregime Söz Gecmiyor Bir Tanem Unutmak Istesemde Unutamadim Su Yüregime Söz Gecmiyor Bir Tanem   Is it you who was born early or did I come late? What kind of a fate is this, tell me that, my love. I wanted to forget, I couldn’t. My heart doesn´t listen to what I say Even if I wanted to forget, I wouldn’t be able to. That heart of me doesn´t listen to what I say ---------------------   Bu Sevdanin Mekani Yok Kavusmanin Imkani Yok Gitmekten Baska Carem Yok Bu Ellerden Gidecegim Ben Uzaktan Sevecegim   This love has no place. There is no chance for us to be united again. I have no other cure solution but to go. I will leave these arms, I will love from a distance.   -------------------------------   Imkansizim Yürek Sizim Buda Benim Alin Yazim Sen Mutlu Ol Iki Gözüm Ben Uzaktan Severim Seni   My impossible, my heart ache  This is my destiny, too. Be happy, my dear, I will love you from a distance.   ----------------------------   Imkansizim Yürek Sizim Buda Benim Alin Yazim Sen Mutlu Ol Kara Gözlüm Ben Uzaktan Severim Seni Ben Uzaktan Severim Seni My impossible, my heart ache  This is my destiny, too. Be happy, my black-eyed, I will love you from a distance I will love you from a distance.   -------------------------------   Sen Yasaksin Bana Ben Tutsak Sana Gönlüm Seni Birgün Unutur Sanma Birak Beni Cek Git Diyorsun Amma Kalbim Senden Vazgecmiyor Bir Tanem Birak Beni Cek Git Diyorsun Amma Gönlüm Senden Vazgecmiyor Bir Tanem   You are banned for me, I am a captive of yours Don’t you ever believe my heart will forget you. Leave me, retreat, go, you say, and still my heart won’t give you up, my love. Leave me, retreat, go, you say, and still My heart won’t give you up, my love.

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3268.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Mar 2012 Fri 12:45 pm   Quoting acute   bilmek istiyorum hangi yanak? beni opmuyorsun ?    Of course I kiss you too. You are always in my heart.

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3269.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Mar 2012 Fri 05:19 am   Quoting CihangirKiz Please note that what I wanted translated came from a different person. This isn´t the same person with whom I´ve been corresponding, if that is what you are referring to.....because frankly I  quite lost. sorry then.

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3270.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Mar 2012 Fri 03:12 am   Quoting Henry Melekçe = the language that angels speak???    lol

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3271.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Mar 2012 Fri 03:11 am   Quoting Henry     Evet, ama sadece yanağımda!    Edited (3/16/2012) by gokuyum

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3272.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Mar 2012 Fri 02:51 am   Quoting acute at this point it seems like all the translators are in this relationship too. pass her photo around. honestly if you are having this much trouble communicating with this girl that you need turkish for everything ... I would in all honesty say this is very one sided and to give it up for something in your neighborhood.   I am sorry uzgunum   acute I am in love with your "direct" style  Edited (3/16/2012) by gokuyum

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3273.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Mar 2012 Fri 02:46 am   Quoting tomac Unfortunately, I´m a learner too so I´m afraid I can´t give you perfect translation. Below is my attempt, but I don´t think it is good - I think it will be better for you to wait for other members, hopefully they can correct it or post a better translation.   Thanks you Melekçe for your response and your phone number.  Cevap ve numaran için teşekkürler Melekçe.   I hope to speak with you when I have learned enough Turkish, Umarım ben yeteri kadar Türkçe öğrenince seninle konuşacağım.   perhaps in 6-8 months when I plan to visit Turkey. Alti-sekiz ay içinde Türkiye´ye gitmeyi planlıyorum, belki bu o zaman mümkün olacak.   In the meantime, how about we stay in touch by email?" Bu arada, e-postayla iletişimde kalmak için ne dersin?   İ have never heart a Turkish name Melekçe. Are you sure it is Melekçe?

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3274.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Mar 2012 Fri 02:44 am   Quoting Henry     Because this is a primarily a public forum for Turkish learners anyone can post their opinions. I also thought you had no understanding of Turkish when you started to post translation requests. One of the best ways to learn Turkish is to start asking for corrections to your own attempts when you have a basic knowledge of Turkish. I assume you have some knowledge, so why not start with simple sentence attempts like inscrutable. Other Turkish learners will benefit, and the helpful Turks on this site want to see your Turkish improve, rather than just do endless translations. Eventually some may stop helping you, if they don´t see you trying to learn as well. You obviously have a strong motivation to learn Turkish, don´t give up.   Henry can I kiss you?

Thread: DOĞUM GÜNÜN - Translation to English

3275.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Mar 2012 Fri 02:40 am   Quoting Abla hep diyorum ya sana "sen kendini farklı bir dünyaya ait hissediyorsun, herkesin olamayacağı bir yere" ... sen basmakalıp yaşamların kalın çizgisinden, masum yüreğinle uzun atlama yapmayı becerecek bir anarşistsin... tüm eylemlerinde yanındayım.. joplara, biber gazlarına, tanzikli sulara karşı beraber duracağız... İYİKİ DOĞDUN, İYİKİ RUHUNUN HAYKIRIŞLARINA DUYARSIZ KALMADIN, İYİKİ FARKLISIN..   My Try:   I am always telling you ”You feel like you belong to another world, to a place where everyone can’t be.” You are an anarchist who with his innocent heart will be able to jump far away from the lines of stereotyped lives. I am with you in anything that you do. We will endure batons, tear gas, water cannons together. Fortunately you were born, fortunately you didn’t keep deaf to the outcries of your soul, fortunately you are different.

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3276.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Mar 2012 Fri 02:36 am   Quoting scalpel It is post modern Turkish!    Good one

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3277.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Mar 2012 Fri 02:31 am   Quoting scalpel   I can´t see any hypocrisy in it.. He is just being direct!              You can see the hypocracy if you read the other messages of this guy. I remeber he was a religious person. Edited (3/16/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Turkish to English

3278.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Mar 2012 Thu 01:37 pm   Quoting Abla Sorry, gokuyum, you have told me before but I keep forgetting this (among other things).   This way I can help you better. You know I want to help you.

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3279.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Mar 2012 Thu 01:33 pm   Quoting Abla Staight talk today, gokuyum.   I hate hypocracy.

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3280.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Mar 2012 Thu 01:28 pm   Quoting tristerecuerdos     i know but i am not asking for the same things? well i understand. thanks. I just want to help you. I am not here to judge you.  I know they are not same things for you but after reading lots of posts they become same for me. And when they are long I dont translate them.  If they are short, learners try to translate them and I correct their mistakes. I think many other translators behave like me. For example this post. http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_53218 Only an angel can translate this if he is in a good mood.     Edited (3/15/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: What are you listening now?

3281.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Mar 2012 Thu 01:18 pm I listen to İstanbul my eyes closed.

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3282.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Mar 2012 Thu 01:05 pm   Quoting tristerecuerdos   how can i? what do you mean? thanks anyways.     I say that we translators hate translating long texts and same things.

Thread: Tuba or Beren

3283.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Mar 2012 Thu 01:03 pm Platon or Aristotales? I say Platon.

Thread: Turkish to English

3284.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Mar 2012 Thu 12:55 pm   Quoting Abla My Try:   First of all, thank you so much for remembering Edan’s birthday. Yes, it is her birthday today but I will be able to see my daughter only an hour before going to sleep because today she is at her father’s house. Anyway, never mind. Today I am at school. University on the other hand, court on the other makes it very difficult for me but I am trying to handle it. I am a little depressed these days, sometimes it can be so hard but inşallah it won’t take long. The mayor’s court will be in April, and it’s putting stress on me. İnşallah after April if the decision is clear we will be in peace a little bit. I can’t even begin anything before going to the court, everything depends on the judge’s decision. I want to move out of here. I intend to move to Oxford by the end of the year, but now my hands are tied to this uncertainty and it’s a very difficult situation for me. My mother is still here with me, I need to thank her, she is supporting me a lot. If she wasn’t here it would be much more difficult for me to go through this period of time. After the court my mother can go to Istanbul for a while, she needs some change also. The climate here is not very good for her pains, besides she is very lonely, there is no one to talk to in the village. She can chat with me only in the evenings. I am out all day, coming and going from the library to the attorney and back.   Abla please divide the text at least to three parts and write your translation under them. This way it would be easy to check your translation.

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3285.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Mar 2012 Thu 12:50 pm   Quoting nifrtity inaniyorum seni ama yani sen beni bırakmak istiyor musun çünkü ben uzak mı yada ne   I wonder if a Turk wrote this?

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3286.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Mar 2012 Thu 12:35 pm   Quoting tristerecuerdos how can i say "i am sorry, i could not continue because i messed up while my mother was talking to me, check the other link" and "dina shocked me with all the things she said 5 hours ago, i never excepted that from her i am so shocked and sad right now i am also mad, i would show you what she said, but i honestly dont wanna hurt you over some junk. she mentioned you and me, eitherway i am sick of having friends treating me bad, i am done, i am better without them no one ever helped me anyways i can maybe try to be alone" in turkish? Üzgünüm. Devam edemedim çünkü annemle konuşurken işi berbat ettim, diğer linki kontrol et. Dina 5 saat önce söylediği şeylerle beni şoka uğrattı. Bunu ondan hiç beklemezdim. Şimdi şoktayım ve çok üzgünüm ayrıca da kızgınım. Sana ne yazdığını gösterirdim ama seni bu çöple incitmek istemem. Senden ve benden bahsetmiş. Bana kötü davranan arkadaşlara sahip olmaktan bıktım. Artık yeter. Onlarsız daha iyiyim. Zaten hiçkimse bana yardım etmedi. Belki yalnız olmayı deneyebilirim.   Note: Dear friend. . If you want your posts to be translated, please try to express yourself as short as possible. Believe me if you want, you can express yourself with two or three sentences. This text is not long but translating same things over and over is not an exciting thing.  Edited (3/15/2012) by gokuyum Edited (3/15/2012) by gokuyum Edited (3/15/2012) by gokuyum Edited (3/15/2012) by gokuyum jolanaze liked this message

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3287.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Mar 2012 Thu 12:16 pm   Quoting CihangirKiz  kız sen varya 10 marta ist geldin beni aramadım öyle olsun bakalım çok ayıp ama bu esnada yanındaki fıstıkta güzelmiş.....!!!!!!!   I want to puke.

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3288.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Mar 2012 Wed 04:33 pm   Quoting Inscrutable Sanırım işten bir gün moladın var. I thought that you had a day off work. thank you   İşten bir gün izinli olduğunu düşündüm. Inscrutable liked this message

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3289.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Mar 2012 Wed 04:30 pm   Quoting harp00n     Correct    It is not correct. "moladın" doesnt make sense.

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3290.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Mar 2012 Mon 05:06 am   Quoting nifrtity Ben seni hiç aldatmadım. Sana değer veriyorum. Ben sana yalan söylemedim. Ben mesajlarını hep okudum ama yorum atamadım. Ben seni seviyorum ama uzağız engel var aramızda   I have never cheated you. You are valuable for me (lit:I give you value). I didnt lie to you. I always read your messages but I couldnt post a comment. I love you but we are far away. There is an obstacle between us.   Note: lit means literally nifrtity liked this message

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3291.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Mar 2012 Mon 04:56 am   Quoting scalpel     A gift for you.. "slow train coming" http://www.mojvideo.com/video-bob-dylan-slow-train-coming/8e5ed8673b29afa29b7a Thank you for your gift. I want to give you a gift too in return. It is Passion Pit from "Sleepyhead". Enjoy it.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNCQWkVtiZ0&ob=av3n   Edited (3/12/2012) by gokuyum

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3292.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Mar 2012 Sun 09:42 pm   Quoting scalpel     It´s unnecessary now   Anyway..thanks for warning..   You are welcome. I deleted my warning. Peace.

Thread: ...olabileceği ileri sürülen

3293.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Mar 2012 Sun 04:49 pm   Quoting Abla gokuyum, everyone can see he ment "past".   I didnt read the quote. And it misled me. But it can  mislead others too. So my warning isnt unnecessary. Edited (3/11/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: ...olabileceği ileri sürülen

3294.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Mar 2012 Sun 04:37 pm , Edited (3/11/2012) by gokuyum Edited (3/11/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Flikka dont know..do u?so pls can u translate;)

3295.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Mar 2012 Sat 04:25 pm   Quoting flikka81   Partnerinizle aranızı düzeltmek için, ilk adımı o sizden, siz ondan bekliyorsunuz.   This sentence is gramatically wrong. There should be one more verb and two different personal endings.   Partnerinizle aranızı düzeltmek için, ilk adımı o sizden bekliyor, siz ondan bekliyorsunuz.

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

3296.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Mar 2012 Fri 09:43 pm   Quoting Abla gokuyum, sağ ol.   A pity. I worked so much on the vocabulary in the end I forgot all the accusative endings. I should have stood on my head ten more minutes more before giving them the last check. Anyway. A couple of notes: 1. Akraba diller i değilse, birbirlerini etkilemediyse veya tesadüfen benzeşen sözleri yoksa tüm dillerin ‘house’ için ayrı sözleri vardır. It is a fact. It should be aorist tense. It is not an unreal situation in Turkish. How come there is aorist tense in the main clause? I suggested -di-past because I thought it should express unreal situation. 2. İngilizce’de house biçimi kullanılırken Türkçe’de ev biçimi kullanılması İngilizce’yi house tipi ve Türkçe’yi ev tipi bir dil yapmıyor. Actually "bir dil" is better.. ´make something into something´ > I tried dative, gokuyum said no.       Edited (3/9/2012) by gokuyum Edited (3/9/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: t toe please

3297.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Mar 2012 Fri 09:37 pm   Quoting deli ha ha you  guessed right but im sure its not correct   "bir dahakine artık" means something like "another time".

Thread: E to t please

3298.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Mar 2012 Fri 09:33 pm   Quoting tunc_izmir @gokuyum: Yazdığını bilseydim uğraşmazdım, kız çaresiz diye yardım edeyim dedim.. hoşçakall   Ben de aynı sebeple çevirdim.

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3299.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Mar 2012 Fri 09:03 pm   Quoting nifrtity   thanks sooooo much gokuyum     You are welcome. I edited it. Look at the final version.

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3300.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Mar 2012 Fri 09:00 pm   Quoting nifrtity I didnt know how you can thinking? you are always says that I cant thinking Yes think but what is the result? Please dont angry with me ,I am sure you are know another girls on internet and I think you try every day to know new one ,Why you are cheated to me I feel that but I cant endure cheating dont angry but that is my feeling ,the reason make me cant covince my family because you make me always fear and doubt all the time you are changed than before , If you want go ok like what you want , I am so tried from that love ,If it is love I cant belive you ,I am sorry and I am always write many message but you didnt read it or replay of its I was direct and never lie for you never every thing is right and my love is true I am never cheated or lie for you or for any body ,I am fear of God Icant lie or cheat any body please replay for every thing I was write in this message ,     Senin nasıl düşündüğünü nasıl bileyim? Her zaman bana düşünemiyorsun diyorsun. Evet düşün ama sonuç ne? Lütfen bana kızma ama eminim ki sen internette başka kızları da tanıyorsun ve her gün yeni birini tanımaya gayret ediyorsun. Niçin beni aldatıyorsun? Bunu hissediyorum ve aldatılmaya dayanamam. Kızma ama böyle hissediyorum. Ailemi ikna edemememin sebebi senin daha önceki halinden farklı olmanın bana her zaman  verdiği korku ve şüphedir. Eğer gitmek istiyorsan tamam istediğin gibi olsun. Ben de bu şekil aşktan yoruldum. Eğer bu aşksa, sana inanamıyorum. Üzgünüm, her zaman birçok mesaj yazıyorum ama okumuyor ve yanıtlamıyorsun. Ben herzaman açık oldum ve yalan söylemedim. Dediğim herşey doğru ve aşkım gerçek. Seni hiç aldatmadım ve yalan söylemedim. Allah korkum buna engel olur. Lütfen bu mesajda yazdığım her şeye cevap ver. Edited (3/9/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: T - E lutfen....

3301.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Mar 2012 Fri 08:46 pm   Quoting jolanaze seni herşeyden kıskanırım   Is it about jealousy or envy?   I envy you from everything.

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

3302.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Mar 2012 Fri 08:39 pm   Quoting Abla If someone was so kind to correct my sentences.   1. When told that Turkish is an SOV language, we might yawn and ask: "So what?" Türkçenin bir özne-nesne-yüklem dili olduğu bize anlatıldığında esneyip  -  Ne olmuş?  -  diye sorabiliriz.   2. What makes the fact that Turkish is an SOV language any more interesting than, say, the fact that the Turkish word for ´house´ is ev? Ne Türkçenin özne-nesne-yüklem dili olmasını ‘house’ sözünün Türkçesinin ev olmasından daha ilginç yapar?   3. Once you know that Turkish is an SOV language, you know something that will help you understand and possibly produce a large proportion of all Turkish sentences. Siz Türkçe’nin bir özne-nesne-yüklem dili olduğunu bildiğinizde size tüm Türkçe cümlelerin büyük bir kesimini anlayıp belki de kurmanıza yardım edebilecek şeyi bilirsiniz.   4. A typology based on basic word order divides the vast majority of the world´s languages into only three types. Esas sözcük sırasına dayanan tipoloji dünya dillerinin çoğunu sadece üç tipe ayırıyor.   5. All languages would probably have different words for ´house´, unless they are related or have influenced each other or have similar words by pure coincidence. Akraba diller i değilse, birbirlerini etkilemediyse veya tesadüfen benzeşen sözleri yoksa tüm dillerin ‘house’ için ayrı sözleri vardır.   6. Languages with SOV word order tend to have postpositions rather than prepositions. Özne-nesne-yüklem sözcük sırasını tercih eden diller addan sonradaki edatları addan öncedeki edatlardan daha fazla kullanma eğilimi gösteriyor.   7. It also shares many other characteristics typical of SOV languages, such as auxiliary verbs that follow the main verb, and adjectives, genitives and relative clauses that precede the noun. Birçok başka özne-nesne-yüklem dillerinin özelliklerini de paylaşıyor, örneğin temel eylemden sonra gelen yardımcı eylem bir de addan önce gelen sıfat, genitif hal ve ilgileme cümleleri.   8. In other words, do differences in basic word order reflect - and stimulate - different ways of thinking? Yani, esas sözcük sırasındaki ayrılıklar farklı düşünce tarzını teşvik edip dile getirir mi?   9. In linguistic typology, we are primarily looking for linguistic variation with a high power of generalization. Dilbilimsel tipolojide aslında yüksek genelleme gücüyle dile ait çeşitlilik aranır.   10. The fact that Turkish uses the form ev where English uses the form house does not make Turkish into a language of the ev type and English a language of the house type. İngilizce’de house biçimi kullanılırken Türkçe’de ev biçimi kullanılması İngilizce’yi house tipi ve Türkçe’yi ev tipi dili yapmıyor.   11. The SOV status of Turkish is not an isolated fact, but is closely connected with a number of other characteristics of Turkish grammar. Türkçe’nin özne-nesne-yüklem durumu yalıtılmış bir olgu değil, ama Türk dilbilgisinin birtakım başka özellikleriyle yakından ilgilidir.

Thread: Bu ne demek gercekten in english?

3303.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Mar 2012 Thu 01:39 am First option seems correct but there is not a very big difference between options. He doesnt want to be away from you. Edited (3/8/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Bu ne demek gercekten in english?

3304.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Mar 2012 Thu 01:32 am   Quoting Lady_Metal This is what the last sentence means? The last word wasnt written completely so I got doubts on what it was. I thought the last sentence meant something about not liking being away from me.   Two options: 1)uzaklaşmıyorum I dont get away 2)uzaklaşamıyorum I can´t get away.   I preffered second option.

Thread: Bu ne demek gercekten in english?

3305.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Mar 2012 Thu 01:25 am   Quoting Lady_Metal   kendimi cok geri çekemiyorum sadece zamana birakalim yani, senden uzakla smiyorum   I cant hold myself back a lot. Lets just leave it to the time. I mean, I cant get away from you.   (wirtten exactly like that) Thanks in advance... I am not sure if I understood it correctly so I am asking to know the real meaning.     Edited (3/8/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: what does hallolmus mean?

3306.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Mar 2012 Thu 01:07 am   Quoting paiger10 Thank you.  so the sentence is   Oglanin vatandaslik islemi hallolmus  which would then translate to "the boys citizenship process is done"       Exactly. MarioninTurkey liked this message

Thread: what does hallolmus mean?

3307.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Mar 2012 Thu 01:04 am   Quoting paiger10 I have seen it all over the place, but cannot seem to find a translation for the word.   It means it is done, it is finished.

Thread: bir çıkış yapmak

3308.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Mar 2012 Wed 08:09 pm   Quoting sufler   İsrail´in, İran´ın nükleer tesislerini vurabileceği yönünde her gün yeni haberler gelirken, Hamas ilginç bir çıkış yaptı.   My attempt: "While every day there are coming news that Israel may shoot Iran´s nuclear facilities, Iran made an interesting exit (?)" I don´t get the last part :/ What´s the idiomatic meaning of çıkış yapmak in this context? çıkış yapmak means to show a reaction   sufler liked this message

Thread: -tek? and \"ise\"

3309.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Mar 2012 Tue 09:24 pm   Quoting sufler Merhaba! I got stuck translating such a sentence:   I need to clear out two things here. Firstly, what is the weird -tek suffix? Is it a kind of misspelling of İncil´deki? And secondy, what is the sense of ise in this example? Does it work as a linker here? It is "deki". "ise" means "as for" in that sentence.

Thread: Ottoman Poetry

3310.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Mar 2012 Mon 03:01 am                                                    -1-   Beni candan usandırdı cefâdan yâr usanmaz mı Felekler yandı âhımdan murâdım şem´i yanmaz mı She made me tired of my life, doesnt my love get tired of her cruelty? Heavens burned from my sigh, doesnt the candle of my will burn? Kamu bîmârına cânân deva-yı derd eder ihsan Niçün kılmaz bana derman beni bîmar sanmaz mı She gives the cure of trouble to every patient of her Why doesnt she heal me, doesnt she think that I am a patient too? Şeb-i hicran yanar cânım döker kan çeşm-i giryânım Uyarır halkı efgânım kara bahtım uyanmaz mı My soul burns at the night of seperation, my crying eyes shed tears of blood My cries make people wake up, doesn´t my bad fortune wake up too? Gûl-i ruhsârına karşu gözümden kanlu akar su Habîbim fasl-ı güldür bu akar sular bulanmaz mı Against your rose like cheek, water fall bloody from my eye My love, this is season of rose; don´t rivers blur?   Gâmım pinhan tutardım ben dedîler yâre kıl rûşen Desem ol bî-vefâ bilmem inanır mı inanmaz mı I was keeping my grief as a secret, they said make it known to the beloved If I said, I don´t know whether that unfaithful would believe or not. Değildim ben sana mâil sen ettin aklımı zâil Beni tan eyleyen gafîl seni görgeç utanmaz mı I was not interested in you, you made my mind undecided Wouldn´t that unwary person (who speaks ill of me) be ashamed when he saw you. Fuzûlî rind-i şeydâdır hemîşe halka rüsvâdır Sorun kim bu ne sevdâdır bu sevdâdan usanmaz mı Fuzuli is a crazy bohemian and always shameful in the eyes of folk Ask what kind of love this is, isnt he sick of it?                                                                          Fuzuli (1483-1556)   Edited (3/5/2012) by gokuyum Edited (3/5/2012) by gokuyum Edited (10/15/2012) by gokuyum apus_de_soare, Guzel57, Salma G., nemanjasrb, lana- and 3 others liked this message

Thread: Turkish Rock Music

3311.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Mar 2012 Mon 02:18 am   Quoting stumpy Gokuyum, I don´t know if I fit in your group, I love Rock, was raised on it but I also love some of the pop songs... if I click like on your post can you make an exception for me?  There are a few good pop songs but this doesnt change the fact it sucks.

Thread: Can someone tell me about some more awesome turkish music?

3312.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Mar 2012 Mon 02:16 am   Quoting burcubr IF YOU LIKE MORE POP SONGS MURAT BOZ, BENGU, HANDE YENER,DEMET AKALIN,PETEK DINCOZ I WOULD RECOMMEND THESE   I dont recommend those on a full stomach. tunci liked this message

Thread: yiyecek vs yenecek

3313.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Mar 2012 Mon 01:44 am   Quoting sufler   And now I wonder what is the difference in meaning if I say: Kızın yenecek hiçbir şeyi yok. This time I used passive, but still the thing is being eaten May these both be used interchangeably? This makes me think those: 1) You want to eat the girl. But there is nothing to eat. İnteresting   2) You want to eat girl´s foods. But there is nothing.   So if you use passive here adjective verb becomes related to you(or others), but if you don´t use passive it becomes related to girl.   Edited (3/5/2012) by gokuyum Edited (3/5/2012) by gokuyum Edited (3/5/2012) by gokuyum tunci and Abla liked this message

Thread: Wonderful news from the Globe

3314.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Mar 2012 Sun 01:03 am Let me have a say on this matter. My father always smoked as long as I know him and now %70 of his lungs doesnt work. And do you know what he is doing now? He is still smoking. He will die because of it and he doesn´t care. If I had the power I would lock him in a room and save his life but this is not possible. So please stop smoking and killing yourselves and pay attention what acute says. Because she says the bitter truth.

Thread: Seni øzledim or øzleyorum

3315.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Mar 2012 Thu 04:13 pm   Quoting Abla   Example machine gokuyum, can you think of a similar sentence with a verb that doesn´t mean feeling or emotion?   Hmm. I can´t think of.

Thread: Seni øzledim or øzleyorum

3316.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Mar 2012 Thu 02:24 pm Another example:   I like the movie. We say: Filmi beğendim.   We use past tense. But it doesnt mean we dont like it anymore. slavica liked this message

Thread: Seni øzledim or øzleyorum

3317.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Mar 2012 Thu 12:34 am   Quoting Mariannehanim Thanks, everybody. But is it incorrect to use seni özledim in the present?   "özledim" is past. But interesting thing is it doesnt have to be over when you use it. If you write someone far away "Seni çok özledim". It means something like I have been missing you.

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

3318.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Feb 2012 Tue 11:03 pm   Quoting Abla My hope is to learn to talk about language in Turkish. It´s not easy. The first attempt is here. Please correct me.   1. Don’t trust your dictionary alone. Sadece değil sözlüğünüze güveniniz. Sadece sözlüğünüze güvenmeyiniz.   2. One of the elementary errors students make is choosing the wrong translation from a dictionary entry. Öğrencilerin yaptıkları basit hatalardan biri sözlük girdisinden yanlış çevirinin seçilmesidir.   3. This typically happens when the translator doesn’t know the meaning of one of the words he is working with. Bu durum genellikle çevirmen çalıştığı sözlerin anlamını bilmediğinde ortaya çıkar.   4. To remedy this you may want to check a monolingual dictionary as they usually offer more complete definitions. Bu durumu düzeltmek için belki daha tamam tanımlar veren tek dilli bir sözlüğü kontrol etmek istiyorsunuz. isteyeilirsiniz   5. Also, try looking up the likely translation to make sure that it “translates back” to the source language correctly. Onun, kaynak dile doğru bir şekilde geri çevrilmesinden emin olmak için bir de muhtemel çeviriyi aramaya çalışınız.   5. If you are still unsure, ask the organization or a native speaker. Daha da eminsiz olursanız hala emin değilseniz örgüte veya doğal bir konuşucuya sorunuz.   6. If translators don´t have the opportunity to visit the country where the source language is spoken very often, they should ask native friends to explain things they can´t find in the dictionary. Çevirmenler kaynak dilin konuşulduğu ülkeyi ziyaret etmek için çok fırsata bulunursalar sahip değilseler yerli arkadaşlarından sözlükten bulamadıkları şeyleri açıklamalarınıı rica etmeliler.   7. Remember perfection is laudable, but not always attainable. Mükemmellik övgüye değer olsa da ona her zaman ulaşılamadığını hatırlayınız.   8.  Medical documents, legal texts, and contracts are just some examples of works in which the quality of your translation can be very significant and mistakes could be very damaging for the organization you are trying to help. Medikal doküman, yasal belge ve sözleşmeler, çevirinin niteliğinin belirli önemli olduğu olup hataların yardım etmeye çalıştığınız örgüte çok zararlı olabileceği işlere örneklerdir.   9. Don’t be afraid to rearrange or rebuild sentences – well-expressed ideas are far more important than consistent grammar. Cümleleri yeniden düzenleyip inşa etmekten korkmayınız. İyi bir şekilde ifade edilen fikirler uygun dilbilgisinden çok daha önemli.   10. Always translate into your native language unless you are near native or bilingual in the second language. İkinci dilde hemen hemen akıcı (not literal) veya ikidilli olmazsanız değilseniz hep anadilinize çeviriniz.   11. If you do decide to translate into a non-native language, we strongly suggest finding a native speaker to check your work over before you submit it to the customer. Her şeye rağmen gayri anadilinizden başka bir dile çevirmeye karar verirseniz müşteriye vermeden önce işinizi kontrol edebilen doğal bir konuşucu bulmanızı çok tavsiye ederiz.

Thread: Wonderful news from the Globe

3319.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Feb 2012 Tue 10:32 pm It makes me happy hearing Arabs love us. No matter what it is good thing to be loved.

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

3320.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Feb 2012 Mon 05:06 pm   Quoting Abla lerlerler sentences, please correct me:   1. Some gladiators were freemen but most, like Spartacus, had been sold as slaves to a gladiator school. Bazı gladyatörler hür adamlardı, ama çokları Spartaküs gibi köle olarak gladiatör okuluna satılmıştılar. 2. When these men were not fighting they were locked up in the gladiator school to make sure they did not escape. Bu adamlar dövüşmüyorken kaçmayacaklarından emin olmak için gladyatör okulunda hapse atılırdılar. 3. One day, in 73 BCE, Spartacus did just that  -  he escaped. Spartaküs’ün bir gün M.Ö. 73’te yaptığı buydu  - o kaçtı.   4. Rome sent an army of 3000 soldiers to capture the runaway slaves but Spartacus attacked from the rear and defeated the Roman army. Roma, kaçan köleleri ele geçirmek için 3000 askerli bir ordu gönderdi götürdü, ama Spartaküs arkadan hücum ederek Roma ordusunu yendi.     5. After Spartacus and his men had defeated the Roman army, many slaves ran away to join him. Birçok köle, adamlarıyla Roma ordusunu yendikten sonra Spartaküs’e katılmak için kaçtı. 6. Rome’s slaves believed if they could reach Spartacus, he would keep them safe. Roma köleleri, Spartaküs’e ulaşabilirlerse onun kendilerini koruyacağına inanıyordular. 7. In a very short amount of time, Spartacus and his followers had swelled from 70 to over 100 000 people. Yandaşlarıyla Spartaküs çok kısa zamanda 70’ten 100 000’´in üstüne sayıca artmıştılar. 8. The Roman way of life for the wealthy was dependent upon slaves. Romalı zenginlerin yaşam biçimi kölelere bağlıydı. 9. The use of slave labor was one of the main reasons so many poor Roman citizens were out of work. Birçok Romalı yoksul vatandaşın boşta olmasının nedenlerinden biri si köle işçiliğin kullanılmasıdır. 10. Wealthy citizens could not allow this revolt to succeed if they wanted to keep their lifestyle. Zengin vatandaşlar, yaşam biçimlerini korumak istiyorlarsa bu başkaldırının başarıya ulaşmasına izin vermemeliydiler. 11. Spartacus and his followers spent their first winter with plenty of good food that they stole from the surrounding countryside, preparing for battle. Yandaşları ile Spartaküs ilk kışlarını etraflarındaki kırdan çaldıkları bol iyi yemeğin yardımıyla mücadeleye hazırlanarak geçirdiler. 12. The gladiators taught others how to fight like a gladiator. Gladyatörler diğerlerine gladyatör gibi dövüşmeyi öğrettiler. 13. Spartacus and his followers were hunted for two years. Yandaşlarıyla Spartaküs iki yıldır avlanıyordular. 14. When Rome finally caught up with him them they killed Spartacus and everyone with him. Roma sonunda onu yakaladığında Spartaküs’ü ve yanındaki herkesi ni öldürdüler.

Thread: Çanakkale Şehitlerine - Mehmet Akif Ersoy

3321.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Feb 2012 Sun 08:23 am   Quoting harp00n Congratulations Gokuyum. Great poem and translation.    Thank you harpoon.

Thread: Çanakkale Şehitlerine - Mehmet Akif Ersoy

3322.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Feb 2012 Sat 09:30 am , Edited (2/4/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Çanakkale Şehitlerine - Mehmet Akif Ersoy

3323.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Feb 2012 Fri 01:37 pm   Quoting deli En kesif orduların yükleniyor dördü beşi. Four or five of the darkest armies are pressing   four or five of the most dense  armies are embarking??????   yüklenmek here has such a mening as to press, to put pressure on. Edited (2/3/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Çanakkale Şehitlerine - Mehmet Akif Ersoy

3324.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Feb 2012 Fri 01:32 pm   Quoting deli En kesif orduların yükleniyor dördü beşi. Four or five of the darkest armies are pressing   four or five of the most dense  armies are embarking?????? I will correct it. Thanks deli.

Thread: Çanakkale Şehitlerine - Mehmet Akif Ersoy

3325.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Feb 2012 Fri 01:31 pm Thank you Abla. I cant say we got over the traumas that WW1 brought. We are more confident now. But people easily remember WW1 and how Europe was our enemy when something bad happens in international relations. This poem´s language is old. It is not easy for teenagers to understand it. But this poem keeps its popularity in the minds of conservative people. I am not conservative. I like it because of its rhytime and feelings it gave. It really effects me when I listen to it. Edited (2/3/2012) by gokuyum Edited (2/3/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Çanakkale Şehitlerine - Mehmet Akif Ersoy

3326.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Feb 2012 Fri 11:52 am   This is a poem of Mehmet Akif Ersoy and it is very famous in Turkey. It is also one of my favourite poems and I wanted to translate it. Probably I made many mistakes. I hope natives can correct them. This poem can offend some foreigners but dont forget the hard times the writer in while he was writing this poem. This kind of poems had important influences on the morality of the army. This is an old poem. I hope you will like it.   Çanakkale Şehitlerine To Dardanelles Martyrs Şu Boğaz harbi nedir? Var mı ki dünyâda eşi?  What is that Bosphorus war? Is there an equivalent to it in the world? En kesif orduların yükleniyor dördü beşi. Four or five of the most dense armies are pressing   -Tepeden yol bularak geçmek için Marmara’ya-  In order to go to Marmara finding a way through the hill Kaç donanmayla sarılmış ufacık bir karaya.  To a very small land besieged by many navies. Ne hayâsızca tehaşşüd ki ufuklar kapalı!  What a dishonarable gathering, because of it horizons are overcast. Nerde-gösterdiği vahşetle ´bu: bir Avrupalı´  Where is “This is an European.” with the violance he shows? Dedirir-Yırtıcı, his yoksulu, sırtlan kümesi,  This wild, numb hyena group makes you say this. Varsa gelmiş, açılıp mahbesi, yâhud kafesi!  They came being opened their cages  Eski Dünyâ, yeni Dünyâ, bütün akvâm-ı beşer,  Old world, new world, all the nations of men Kaynıyor kum gibi, mahşer mi, hakikat mahşer. They are boiling like sand, is it Armegeddon?, truely it is. Yedi iklimi cihânın duruyor karşında,  Seven nations of the world stand in front of you. Avusturalya´yla beraber bakıyorsun: Kanada!  You see Australia together with Canada! Çehreler başka, lisanlar, deriler rengârenk:  Faces are different, languages, skins are colourful Sâde bir hâdise var ortada: Vahşetler denk.  There is a simple thing obvious: wildnesses are equal  Kimi Hindû, kimi yamyam, kimi bilmem ne belâ...  Some of them are Indian, some of them are cannibal, I dont know what the heck the others.  Hani, tâuna da züldür bu rezil istilâ!  This disgraceful invasion is a lowness even for plague Ah o yirminci asır yok mu, o mahlûk-i asil,  Oh that 20. century, that noble thing Ne kadar gözdesi mevcûd ise hakkıyle, sefil,  All of its favored ones are truely wretched. Kustu Mehmedciğin aylarca durup karşısına;  It threw up for months standing in front of dear Mehmets Döktü karnındaki esrârı hayâsızcasına.  It threw out the secrets in its stomach without shame. Maske yırtılmasa hâlâ bize âfetti o yüz...  If the mask wasnt torn, that face would be still adorable for us.  Medeniyyet denilen kahbe, hakikat, yüzsüz.  The whore called civilization is truely shameless. Sonra mel´undaki tahribe müvekkel esbâb,  The reasons which cause the destruction at the cursed Öyle müdhiş ki: Eder her biri bir mülkü harâb.  They are so terrible, even each one of them can destroy a land. Öteden sâikalar parçalıyor âfâkı;  Thunderbolts are tearing the horizons to pieces from the other side  Beriden zelzeleler kaldırıyor a´mâkı;  Earthquakes lift up the depths from this side. Bomba şimşekleri beyninden inip her siperin;  The thunderbolts of bombs are going down through the brains of every shelter Sönüyor göğsünün üstünde o arslan neferin.  They go out on the chest of those brave soldiers. Yerin altında cehennem gibi binlerce lağam,  There are thousands of underground tunnels like hell under the earth. Atılan her lağamın yaktığı: Yüzlerce adam.  And hundreds of men who the mines thrown burnt. Ölüm indirmede gökler, ölü püskürmede yer;  Sky is bringing down death, earth is spewing out dead. O ne müdhiş tipidir: Savrulur enkaaz-ı beşer...  What a terrible blizzard it is, wreck of men is thrown into the air. Kafa, göz, gövde, bacak, kol, çene, parmak, el, ayak,  Head, eye, body, leg, arm, chin, finger, hand, foot  Boşanır sırtlara vâdilere, sağnak sağnak.  They hail onto ridges, valleys Saçıyor zırha bürünmüş de o nâmerd eller,  Those coward hands in armor are scattering Yıldırım yaylımı tûfanlar, alevden seller.  Floods like thunderbolt volleys, torrents from fire Veriyor yangını, durmuş da açık sinelere,  They are giving fire to chests open, Sürü halinde gezerken sayısız teyyâre.  Many planes, while  going around in groups. Top tüfekten daha sık, gülle yağan mermiler...  Missiles splattering cannonballs are more frequent than cannon and gun. Kahraman orduyu seyret ki bu tehdide güler!  Watch the brave army, it laughs at that threat. Ne çelik tabyalar ister, ne siner hasmından;  Neither it wants steel bastions nor it is afraid of its enemy.  Alınır kal´â mı göğsündeki kat kat iman?  Is a strong faith a fortress which can be taken? Hangi kuvvet onu, hâşâ, edecek kahrına râm?  Which power can make it bow down to its oppression? Çünkü te´sis-i İlahi o metin istihkâm.  Because that stronghold is an establishment of God.  Sarılır, indirilir mevki-i müstahkemler,  The location of fortified buildings can be surrounded and can be taken Beşerin azmini tevkif edemez sun´-i beşer;  The creation of human cant arrest the will of the humanity. Bu göğüslerse Hudâ´nın ebedi serhaddi;  As for these chests, they are eternal borders of God. ´O benim sun´-i bedi´im, onu çiğnetme´ dedi. “It is my beautiful creation, dont allow it to be run over.” He said Asım´ın nesli...diyordum ya...nesilmiş gerçek:  I was talking about the generation of Asım, it is truely a generation:  İşte çiğnetmedi nâmusunu, çiğnetmiyecek.  Look, it didnt allow its honor to be run over, it will not. Şühedâ gövdesi, bir baksana, dağlar, taşlar...  Look at the mountains and rocks, they are the bodies of martyrs. O, rükû olmasa, dünyâda eğilmez başlar,  Except Rüku, it is impossible to make  heads bow. Vurulup tertemiz alnından, uzanmış yatıyor, He lies down shot from his so clean forehead.   Bir hilâl uğruna, yâ Rab, ne güneşler batıyor!  For the sake of a crescent, oh God, many suns set.  Ey, bu topraklar için toprağa düşmüş asker!  O Soldier who fell down to the ground for this land! Gökten ecdâd inerek öpse o pâk alnı değer.  It would worth it if  the forefathers kissed coming down that clean forehead Ne büyüksün ki kanın kurtarıyor tevhidi...  How great you are, your blood saves the Tevhid. Bedr´in arslanları ancak, bu kadar şanlı idi.  Only the lions of Bedir were this much glorious. Sana dar gelmiyecek makberi kimler kazsın?  Who can dig the grave which will not be narrow for you? ´Gömelim gel seni tarihe´ desem, sığmazsın.  If I said “lets burry you into history”, you wouldnt fit into Herc ü merc ettiğin edvâra da yetmez o kitâb...  That book isnt enough even for the eras you shook Seni ancak ebediyyetler eder istiâb.  Only eternities can embrace you. ´Bu, taşındır´ diyerek Kâ´be´yi diksem başına;  If I put Kaba around your head saying “This is your grave stone” Ruhumun vahyini duysam da geçirsem taşına;  If I heard inspiration of my soul and wrote it on your stone Sonra gök kubbeyi alsam da, ridâ namıyle,  Then, If I took vault of heaven with the Rida name Kanayan lâhdine çeksem bütün ecrâmıyle;  If I pulled it to your tomb with its all stars Mor bulutlarla açık türbene çatsam da tavan,  And if I made it a ceiling to your shrine open with purple clouds Yedi kandilli Süreyyâ´yı uzatsam oradan;  If I sent seven candled Süreyya from there Sen bu âvizenin altında, bürünmüş kanına, Under this chandelier,covered with your blood   Uzanırken, gece mehtâbı getirsem yanına,  While you were lying down, if I brought moon light near you at night Türbedârın gibi tâ fecre kadar bekletsem;  Like caretaker of your shrine, if I made it wait untill day light. Gündüzün fecr ile âvizeni lebriz etsem;  In morning, if I made your chandelier full of day light. Tüllenen mağribi, akşamları sarsam yarana... If I wrapped the tulle covered west to your wound at nights.   Yine bir şey yapabildim diyemem hâtırana.  I wouldnt say that i did much to honor your memory.    Sen ki, son ehl-i salibin kırarak savletini,  You, by breaking the attack of Crucifix people Şarkın en sevgili sultânı Salâhaddin´i,  You made the most beloved sultan of east, Salahaddin Kılıç Arslan gibi iclâline ettin hayran... An admirer of your greatness like Kılıç Arslan. Sen ki, İslam´ı kuşatmış, boğuyorken hüsran,  You, while disappointment was sorrounding and choking Islam O demir çenberi göğsünde kırıp parçaladın;  You broke and tore that iron chain into pieces on your chest. Sen ki, rûhunla beraber gezer ecrâmı adın;  You, your name visits stars with your soul. Sen ki, a´sâra gömülsen taşacaksın...Heyhât, You, if you were burried  into centuries, you would pour out. Sana gelmez bu ufuklar, seni almaz bu cihât...  These horizons cant come to you, this cihat cant embrace you Ey şehid oğlu şehid, isteme benden makber,  Oh martyr son of a martyr; dont want grave from me Sana âğûşunu açmış duruyor Peygamber. The prophet is waiting you his arms open.   Edited (2/3/2012) by gokuyum Edited (2/3/2012) by gokuyum Edited (2/3/2012) by gokuyum Edited (2/3/2012) by gokuyum Edited (2/4/2012) by gokuyum Edited (2/5/2012) by gokuyum Edited (8/13/2012) by gokuyum Edited (8/13/2012) by gokuyum Edited (3/18/2013) by gokuyum Edited (4/11/2013) by gokuyum Edited (3/20/2014) by gokuyum Edited (3/20/2014) by gokuyum basima, ahmet_a1b2, harp00n, sashk, Henry and tunci liked this message

Thread: Sentence-Passive Verb, and identifying a country, double Auxillary verb

3327.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Feb 2012 Thu 07:07 am   Quoting si++     As for 3: To have x V-pp = x yaptırmak/ettirmek   So Madonna plans to have 10 schools built in the African country Malawi. Madonna, Afrika ülkesi Malawi´de 10 okul yaptırmayı (or inşa ettirmeyi) planliyor.   I thought "built" as an adjective but your explanation makes more sense. Peace.

Thread: E - T please correct me...

3328.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2012 Wed 05:48 pm   Quoting jolanaze I am thinking of you and your Konya´s surprise all the time   Hala seni ve senin Konya´dan sürpriz düşünüyorum   Many thanks, Seni ve senin Konya süprizini her zaman düşünüyorum.   jolanaze liked this message

Thread: Turkish Rock Music

3329.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2012 Wed 05:24 pm If you want to listen Turkish and world rock music here is an online radio: http://www.rockfm.com.tr/rockfm/default.asp If you hate pop music please like my post so I will know how many we are caliptrix, alameda, nifrtity, sashk, stumpy and bloopearl liked this message

Thread: Sentence-Passive Verb, and identifying a country, double Auxillary verb

3330.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2012 Wed 07:19 am   Quoting Mavili "Madonna plans to have 10 schools built in the African country Malawi." Madonna Afrika ülkesi Malavi´de inşa edilecek on okula sahip olmayı planlıyor.       I used future tense" inşa edilecek" because I guess they havent been built yet. If so, we cant say "inşa edilmiş" here.   Edited (2/1/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: T to E please^^

3331.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2012 Wed 07:06 am   Quoting deli Quoting lakkloI am sorry when i past some words apear with ?    bUnLaRdA bEnIm SiIrLeRiM and these are my poems    UmArIm bEgEnIrSiNiZ I hope you like  Basaramadim iste!! see I wasnt able to succeed. I couldnt manage Seni kalbimden söküp atmayi basaramadim. I couldn´t manage to tear you apart from my heart  Ne kadar denesem de seni unutmayi olmadi. it failed to forget you no matter how much I tried  O guzel gülüşünü gozlerimden atamadim bir türlü. your smile so beautiful ? somehow I couldnt cast your so beautiful smile from my eyes  Hayalinle hayal kurmaktan vazgecemedim. I couldnt give up dreaming with your dream daydreaming  Gozlerimi her kapadigimda seni düşünmeden uyuyamadim. when ever I closed my eyes I couldnt sleep without thinking of you  Gozlerimi her actigimda ise fotografina bakamadan edemedim. if whenever I opened my eyes I couldnt cope without looking at your photo  Her yagmur yagdiginda pencere kenarina oturup seni beklemekten vazgecemedim. when ever it rained I couldnt give up waiting for you on the edge  of the window  Sana olan askimi anlatan sarkilar dinledigimde gozlerimdeki yaslara engel olamadim. I was unable to prevent the tears that  were in my eyes when I listened to songs that explained my love  thats being for you  Gecenin soguk karanliginda seni aramaktan bir türlü yorulmadim. somehow I didnt  become weary of searching/ for longing for you at all in the cold darkness of the nights  Her gece yalniz sana ve senin icin siirler yazmaktan usanmadim.  alone everynight I didnt get bored of writing poems for you and to you  Icimeki seni öldürmeyi denedim ama kiyamadim. I tried to kill you thats inside of me but I couldnt kill  Basaramadim iste... Seni unutmayi basaramadim... thats it, I couldnt accomplish iI couldnt forget you     my try but wait for the corrections and the bits I didnt do   Great translation.   Edited (2/1/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: please translation

3332.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2012 Wed 06:49 am   Quoting Abla abim diyoki  ordan türkiyeye gelen turlar varmış  onları araştır  onlarLA GELCEN  BEN ABİMLE BÜGÜNDE KONUŞTUM  O SENİN TAM ANLAMADIĞINI SÖYLEDİ AMA BENCE SEN BENİ ANLADIN  HADİ BUL ŞU TURLARI    My brother says there should be tours from there to Turkey. Search for them thoroughly. You will take one of them and come. I even talked to my brother today too. He said you haven´t understood completely everything. But I thought you understood me. Come on, go and find those tours. (My Try)   Abla please quote the text you translate that way it will be easy for me to correct your mistakes.   Edited (2/1/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: t-e

3333.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2012 Wed 06:48 am   Quoting Leylak111   SİZİ GETİRMEK İÇİN BANKADAN KIREDİ ÇEKECEKMİŞ SİZİ GETİRE  SEN TURU BULUNCA KREDİ ÇEKECEKMİŞ Highlighted part doesnt make any sense.

Thread: t to e please

3334.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2012 Wed 06:40 am   Quoting nifrtity     Aga ben halen ayıkamadım(slang) biz 4 kişiydik. Bizi kim çekti Buddy I still dont understand. We were 4 people. Who took a photo/video of us?

Thread: Translation Problems

3335.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Feb 2012 Wed 06:33 am But you forget this point: There are people here learning Turkish and they observe the translations and come to conclusions about some grammer issues and sometimes a very non-literal translation  misleads them. So I try to be literal as much as I can and if my translation is not very literal I mention it.   Of course we cant completely translate a text literally. But I always try to find a way that will make leraners and others happy. I try to find a balance. sashk and Henry liked this message

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

3336.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jan 2012 Thu 01:53 pm   Quoting Abla Çok teşekkür ederim, gokuyum. A couple of things: 1. Ölmüş babası, geçinmek için 7000 kez aynı manzarayı yapan bir ressam olan ölmüş babası, erkek çocuğunun bir polis memur olmaya karar vermesini çok beğenmemedi. I thought I will ease the structure by saving the long introduction after the subject, but it wasn´t a good choice. Could I take this as a rule? This way meaning is clearer.  2. Wallander, konusu güneyli Skåne´in ilindeki  güney eyaletindeki Malmö şehrinin 60 kilometre güneydoğusundaki Ystad kasabasının içiyle etrafında geçen birçok esrarlı romanın kahramandır. Does your correction mean ´in the south of Skåne´ or ´in Skåne which is the southern province of Sweden´? I was trying to say the latter..... Ystad town that is 60 km southeast of Malmo city which is in the south province of Skane. And still one thing, gokuyum: Do you know Henning Mankell? Are his works translated into Turkish? Mankell was one of the well-known culture persons who was present on the accompanying vessel of Mavi Marmara a couple of years ago. No, I dont know him.

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

3337.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jan 2012 Tue 09:11 pm   Quoting Abla Please.   1. Kurt Wallander is a fictional character created by Swedish crime writer Henning Mankell. Kurt Wallander, İsveçli suç romanları yazarı Henning Mankell tarafından yaratılan (bt: yaratılmış ) bir kurgusal karakterdir. 2. As a young police officer, Wallander was nearly killed when a drunk whom he was questioning stabbed him with a butcher´s knife. Wallander genç bir polis memuruyken sorgulamakta olduğu bir içkici (bt: ayyaş ) ona bir kasap bıçağı sapladığı gün hemen hemen öldürülmüş  neredeyse ölüyormuş.(without causative and passive it is better) 3. Wallander was once married, but his wife left him. Wallander bir zamanlar evliydi ama karısı onu bıraktı. 4. He has since had a difficult relationship with his rebellious only child, Linda, who just barely survived a suicide attempt when she was fifteen. O zamandan beri 15 yaşındayken intihar girişiminde bulunup dar darına zar zor hayatta kalan asi tek çocuğu Linda ile zor bir ilişkisi var. 5. His late father, an artist who painted the same landscape 7,000 times for a living, strongly disapproved of his son´s decision to become a police officer. Ölmüş babası, geçinmek için 7000 kez aynı manzarayı yapan bir ressam olan ölmüş babası, erkek çocuğunun bir polis memur olmaya karar vermesini çok beğenmemedi. 6. Inspector Wallander has few close friends, he consumes too much alcohol and junk food, exercises very little, and sometimes struggles with his own anger. Komiser Wallander’in az yakın arkadaşı var, o çok içki ve aburcubur tüketip çok az antrenman yapar, bazen kendi öfkesiyle mücadele eder. (1)after coma it is a new sentence and it doesnt have a direct realtionship with the predicate before so I discarded -ıp) 7. He frequently regards the crimes he investigates on a very personal level, going against the orders of his superiors to try to solve a case. Sık sık üstünlerinin buyruklarına karşı gelerek vukuatı çözmeye çalışmak için araştırdığı suçları çok kişisel alır. 8. Over the years he has grown increasingly disillusioned with his work, and often wonders whether he should have become a police officer at all. Yıllar geçtikçe artan bir şekilde işinin gerçeğinin farkına vardı (1), çoğu kez asla bir polis memuru asla olmaysa olmasa mıydım diye düşünüyor. 9. Wallander lives with the guilt of having shot and killed a man. Wallander bir adamı ateş ederek öldürdüğü için suçluluk duygusu yaşıyor. 10. This act drove him into depression and nearly led to his resignation. Bu iş onu bunalıma girdirip sokup hemen hemen (bt: neredeyse) istifa ettirdi. 11. He is diagnosed with diabetes, and towards the end of his career he also suffers from memory lapses. Diyabet ile tanı kondu (1), meslek hayatının sonlarına doğru hafiza kayıpları da yaşıyor. 12. Wallander is the protagonist of several mystery novels, set in and around the town of Ystad, 60 km south-east of the city of Malmö, in the southern province of Skåne. Wallander, konusu güneyli Skåne´in ilindeki  güney eyaletindeki Malmö şehrinin 60 kilometre güneydoğusundaki Ystad kasabasının içiyle etrafında geçen birçok esrarlı romanın kahramandır. 13. Wallander has been portrayed on screen by the actors Rolf Lassgård, Krister Henriksson and Kenneth Branagh. Wallander, aktörler Rolf Lassgård, Krister Henriksson ve Kenneth Branagh tarafından ekranlara aktarılmıştır. Note: bt means better   Edited (1/24/2012) by gokuyum Edited (1/24/2012) by gokuyum Edited (1/24/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: gerekmek

3338.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jan 2012 Mon 09:49 pm   Quoting Abla I have understood diye structure is always a direct quote. It is a funny, transparent piece of language but I never succeeded to use it correct until now. gokuyum, thanks for enlightening me. I am not sure about those sentences abla. Third person and first person both make sense. There must be an explanation for it.   Edited (1/16/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: gerekmek

3339.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jan 2012 Mon 09:43 pm   Quoting gokuyum The important thing here is I started to sentence with third person then I used first person and then I finished it with a third person personal ending. This is because "diye"  function as a quote. I could use third person always but in the second sentence when I used third person in the middle it didnt make sense.   Well it makes sense now. So I could use third person everywhere in the sentences. Edited (1/16/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: gerekmek

3340.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jan 2012 Mon 09:41 pm The important thing here is I started to sentence with third person then I used first person and then I finished it with a third person personal ending. This is because "diye"  function as a quote. I could use third person always but in the second sentence when I used third person in the middle it didnt make sense.

Thread: gerekmek

3341.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jan 2012 Mon 09:30 pm   Quoting Abla How can I express a subclause necessity in the past when the main clause is in present tense and the subclause is a) an interrogative content clause (indirect question)? “Sometimes she wonders if she should have left a long time ago.” Bazen uzun zaman önce terketse miydi(m)/bıraksa mıydı(m) diye düşünüyor. b) a declarative content clause? “Sometimes she thinks she should have left a long time ago.” Bazen uzun zaman önce terketmeliydi(m) diye düşünüyor. I am afraid it has to do with gerekmek again.     Edited (1/16/2012) by gokuyum Edited (1/16/2012) by gokuyum Edited (1/16/2012) by gokuyum [a few changes] Edited (1/16/2012) by gokuyum scalpel liked this message

Thread: Translation of Turkish Poetry into English too difficult!

3342.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jan 2012 Mon 12:09 am   Quoting Tulip I found this text placed on my facebook and I have no idea what it means!   Erkek devlettir, Yönetir Korur, sahip, cikar, kadin millettir, devletir yalnizca o ayakta tutar!!! Ama allah bilir ya ne sakliyayim yaninda ihtiyarlamak istiyorum... Inslarlar ne kadar zeki olursa olsun sevdigi kisinin bir sözüne kanacak kader optaldir. Rabbim... Askínin yagmurlarinda sirilsiklam islat bizi. I appreciate the translation very much, have a nice day! New Nihat Doğans are coming. I am so happy.

Thread: t to e

3343.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jan 2012 Mon 12:03 am , Edited (1/16/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: t to e

3344.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jan 2012 Mon 12:00 am ,   Edited (1/16/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: what does this mean?

3345.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jan 2012 Sun 11:58 pm   Quoting scalpel I wanted to encourage our learners to make as much translation as they could and gain self-confidence in learning Turkish language.. and I didn´t like to correct them unless it is really necessary or unless they ask for it.. But I got some criticism from some of you and decided to change my mind, and I will never click "like this message" button, even if it is a tiny, unimportant mistake..           I can click for you if you want. acute liked this message

Thread: Plese help me identify this song, im desperate!!

3346.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jan 2012 Sun 09:52 pm   Quoting Aturk I heard it at a friend house and i just cant get the melody out of my head. Who sings it and what is it called?   http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WZZKDDUB   Thank you!   Name of the song is Taka takata. If you search it on youtube you can find many singers who song it. Also if you search "Kalbim Bir Pusula" you can find its Turkish covers. Edited (1/15/2012) by gokuyum Edited (1/15/2012) by gokuyum Edited (1/15/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Short sentence to enlgish please

3347.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Jan 2012 Wed 09:57 pm   Quoting scalpel     (you gonna pee) on the flower pot... say "destur"* first  *asking pardon or permission, etc...         When you say "destur" you ask permission of Jinns or you warn them "be careful I am about to pee now, if you are in front of me, go away". If you dont say "destur" they can hit you or strike you with something. Even if you say "destur" there is no guarantee that they will accept it.  Edited (1/11/2012) by gokuyum Edited (1/11/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: 1&2 T-E, T-E very short plzz

3348.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jan 2012 Mon 11:43 pm   Quoting scalpel     That´s true that "it is a little weird".  I think for me (benim için ) instead of to me (bana ) solves the problem in the sentence.. It should be a prepositional adjunct with için : Birisine, benim için mektup yazdırdı . IO.....noun/pro+için...DO ....vt + subject     Yes, it is a good solution

Thread: 1&2 T-E, T-E very short plzz

3349.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jan 2012 Mon 06:53 pm   Quoting Abla But what if there was no direct object? If it was an intransitive verb? In that case the actor would become a direct object, isn´t it?                    Beni ağlattı. ´He made me cry.´ (O) beni ağlattı. Actor is "o". "beni" is the object.

Thread: 1&2 T-E, T-E very short plzz

3350.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jan 2012 Mon 05:14 pm   Quoting Abla But what is the dative -e doing in ´soldier´? Good question. I was about to write about it. Ex: Bana mektup yazdırdı. He made me write a letter.   In English me is the direct object of the main sentence. But in Turkish it is indirect object of the sentence. Mektup is the direct object.   But this causes some confussions for me.When I look at the sentence I also catch this kind of a meaning: "Bana mektup yazdırttı" "He made someone write a letter to me". And if I add someone into the sentence it is a little weird. "Birisine bana mektup yazdırttı."   Edited (1/9/2012) by gokuyum Edited (1/9/2012) by gokuyum Edited (1/9/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: 1&2 T-E, T-E very short plzz

3351.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jan 2012 Mon 04:54 pm Askere mektup yollatılır mı hiç? Verb is causative and also pasive here. Look at here   Can a soldier be made send a letter ever?   Does my translation make sense in English?   Edited (1/9/2012) by gokuyum Edited (1/9/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Passive or Reflexive

3352.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jan 2012 Mon 04:44 pm   Quoting scalpel     Yes, I am sure.. In the passive voice, the subject is acted upon by somebody or something. (example: kaçak, polis tarafından Ankara´da tesadüfen bulunuyor )  In the sentence "Ankara´da bulunuyor" (=> He is in Ankara) there is nobody or nothing acting upon the subject, on the contrary, the subject acts upon itself, doesn´t it?       Thank you for the explanation

Thread: Passive or Reflexive

3353.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jan 2012 Mon 12:51 am   Quoting scalpel     "Ankara´da bulunuyor" is reflexive..     Are you sure? Can you give me a link about it? I dont say you are wrong. But it doesnt make sense to me. Can you explain the logic under it?

Thread: The thousands of Christians in Turkey began their Christmas celebrations on Dec. 24, and several rel

3354.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jan 2012 Sun 10:15 pm   Quoting barba_mama Again, two wrongs don´t make a right. That it happens in Finland doesn´t make it normal to me. I am not used to such strangly painted history lessons. The weirdest one I´ve heard was from a language/history teacher in Gaziantep, who taught his students that Kurdish was actually brought to Turkey by English people, who used to teach this language to the Kurds to make them distance themselves from Turkey... HUH? I am just constantly surprised by certain historical "teachings"... Why is it so important for you  Turkey to accept Armenian genocide? If you think there will be peace in the world and there will be no genocides after our acceptance I am ready to accept it.

Thread: Passive or Reflexive

3355.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jan 2012 Sun 10:06 pm   Quoting Abla Does   Ankara’da bulunuyor   literally mean ’he/she/it is found in Ankara’ or ’he/she/it finds himself in Ankara’ ? It seems passive here but it has a meaning "He is in Ankara"   Edited (1/8/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: Old Turkish song

3356.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jan 2012 Sun 07:14 am   Quoting acute   Yoksun Sen Yoksun Ya Akşamlarda Nereden takılmışsa bir şarkı dudaklarımda  Havada deniz kokusu  Aramızda denizler yıllarımı çaldı yokluğun  Ağlarsam ağlar ıslanır  Denizlerde sen hasretinde ben  Yokluğun esiyor akşamlarda  Kadehlerde sen çaresizim ben  Yoksun sen yoksun ya akşamlarda  sularda yorgun akşam ben yangın telaşlarında  Çırpınır kalbim çırpınır  Gemiler geçer uzak bir beyaz hüzün soluklanır  Çırpınır akşam çırpınır  Gel bir daha gitme hiç hep gözümün önünde ol sen  Hep yanımdaki resmin gibi  Aramızda denizler yıllarımı çaldı yokluğun  Ağlarsam ağlar ıslanır     I translated it a little different where a song is struck on my lips  (I dont know) from where it was attached, a song is on my lips the secent of the sea in the air the sea´s between us has stolen many years with your absence the seas are between us; your absence stole my years if i cry  it cries and gets wet if I cry, nets will get wet you are in glasses and I am incurable/desparate you deprive to be deprived in the nights Absent, you are absent in the nights my torment (fever, agitation ) tires me of the waters tonight The night is tired in/on waters, ı am in the fuss of fire my heart twists and struggles next line is difficult for me Gemiler geçer uzak bir beyaz hüzün soluklanır ships - desireable– distant/far-off – the – white – sadness -to take a breathe white sadness to breathe the desire of far-off ships Ships pass;a far white sadness takes a breath the night stuggles and twists   are you ever going to come to be more in front of me Come and never go again. Be always in front of my eyes      always I like having your picture with me Like your picture that I have always on me I am hoping for corrections here also                Edited (1/8/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: ´ -dik´ participle negatives???

3357.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Jan 2012 Sat 10:44 am   yap+tik+i [yaptigi] bir şey > a thing that was done by he/she/it [affirmative]  yap+ma+dik+i [yapmadigi] bir şey >a thing that was NOT done by .....  yapildigi bir şey > thing which it was  made of. Discard "bir" from this sentence. yaplimadigi bir şey > thing that it was NOT made of. yapılan şey the thing which was/is done   Edited (1/7/2012) by gokuyum Edited (1/7/2012) by gokuyum Edited (1/7/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: ´ -dik´ participle negatives???

3358.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Jan 2012 Fri 08:50 pm   Quoting Tazx1 Dear someone ... I have almost got the hang of -dik participles ... but I am more than a bit confused regarding the Negative form ... for example:- (Benim) geldiğimde >means> at the time of my coming How can I say > at the time of my NOT coming? Gelmediğimde It will help if someonecan give a few apt examples of NEGATIVE participles, using few common verbs as -dik nouns. Say using, yapmak, etmek, sevmek, gitmek, aramak, istemek, yazmak, bağlamak, imzalamak ... Kullanmadıktan sonra at gitsin. İşaret etmediğinden göremedim. Sevmediğin için böyle söylüyorsun. Gitmedikçe göremezsin. İstemediğini söylüyor. Yazmadığı belli. Bağlamadığın için kaçmış. İmzalamadığın belgeler bunlar.   [using third person] Will it be >> yapmazdigi, or, yapmamadigiyapmadığı ... imzalamazdigi, or, imzalamamadigi imzalamadığı ... etc. ???  ... it gets a bit more confusing when -la, laş, -lan, etc are added to the verb stem.   I don´t even know if I am talking sense or nonsense !!   Thanks Tazx1

Thread: gerekmek

3359.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Jan 2012 Thu 06:33 pm   Quoting scalpel     Just helping you     Thank you   Abla liked this message

Thread: t-e plsssss

3360.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Jan 2012 Thu 05:20 pm   Quoting Abla I probably can´t do it any better than deli but it is easier to provocate me: Bana Benimle işte böyle konuşurken kendini kim olduğunu sanıyorsun acaba. Görüşünü sormadım. Sanki benden bahsetmekten başka bir işin yok. Sen de gülünç bir şekilde davrandiğini düşünmüyor musun?

Thread: turish to english...

3361.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Jan 2012 Thu 03:20 pm   Quoting emilyasiegel What does Sess mean?   It is ses. It means voice.

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3362.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Jan 2012 Thu 03:15 pm   Quoting Abla I don´t have the heart to do it to you.   Kıyamam sana  I can´t kill you Then it became I can´t hurt you.

Thread: E to T

3363.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Jan 2012 Thu 03:08 pm   Quoting zizoo Thanks a lot Scalpel çok teşekkürler and sorry for the bad numbering, I noticed it just now... the negative side of copy-pasting  Tilavet?  Who under 70 knows what tilavet means? Okay I accept I am a troll.   Edited (1/5/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: gerekmek

3364.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Jan 2012 Thu 03:04 pm Why do you sabotage me scalpel?

Thread: gerekmek

3365.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Jan 2012 Wed 09:01 am   Quoting Abla Maybe some kind of a rule is beginning to take shape here when we sort out the examples a little bit.   The phrase containing gerek- acts as the subject of the main clause: Gitmen gerektiği belli. It is clear that you have to go. The phrase containing gerek- acts as the object of the main clause: Gitmen gerektiğini söylüyor. He/she says that you have to go. The phrase containing gerek- acts as the adverbial of the main clause: Gitmem gerektiği zaman söyle. Tell me when I have to go. Until here everything is simple. The problem comes when we try to use a phrase with gerek- as an attribute. These are all equivalents to English relative clauses. You can’t find –dik participle here. Instead, only participles which don’t take personal endings are used. Bitirmem gereken ödevlerim var. I have homeworks that I have to finish. almam gerekmiş çiçekler the flowers which I had to buy torbasını açması gerekmiş yolcu the traveller who had to open her bag kızının kasapla evlenmesi gerekmiş baba the father whose daugter had to marry the butcher   Actually the only example which I cannot fit into the rule is the one with future participle (which, yes, is able to take personal endings and usually acts like –dik participle). Söylemem gerekecek şey onu üzebilir. The thing I will have to say can make him upset. Maybe the need of expressing future is stronger here than syntactic limitations. We don’t have but –ecek- for future, do we? Just speculating. If a word becomes adjective it can only take possesive suffixes not personal endings. And if it takes a possesive suffix it will become a noun. Here are the suffixes that makes verb nouns: -an, -ası-, -mez, -ar, -dik,-ecek,-miş

Thread: gerekmek

3366.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jan 2012 Tue 09:16 pm Gitmen gerektiğini söylüyor. gerek-dik-i-n-i Now we see "gerek" and "dik" together. But here "-dik" with "-i" makes it a noun not adjective.  So if we add -diği to gerek we have a noun.   Ex: 1)Gitmen gerektiği belli. It is clear that you have to go. Gitmen gerektiği is the subject of the sentence. 2)Gitmen gerektiğini söylüyor. He/she says that you have to go. Gitmen gerektiğini is the object of the sentence.

Thread: gerekmek

3367.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jan 2012 Tue 04:48 pm   Quoting Abla When something sounds weird there must be a reason for it. (I don´t need the reason but it is just interesting.)   There is one reason that is -dik doesn´t make "gerek" an adjective. It doesn´t make every verbs adjective. It chooses the one it wants It is true.   Ex: gerektik, koştuk, güldük, etc... don´t mean anything as adjectives but bildik, alışıldık, görülmedik make sense. Edited (1/3/2012) by gokuyum Edited (1/3/2012) by gokuyum Edited (1/3/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: gerekmek

3368.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jan 2012 Tue 09:50 am the flowers which I had to buy almam gerekmiş çiçekler the traveller who had to open her bag torbasını açması gerekmiş yolcu the father whose daughter had to marry the butcher kızının kasapla evlenmesi gerekmiş baba   I am thinking about a way of using -dık instead of -miş. Because they both give past meanings. But it sounds weird.

Thread: gerekmek

3369.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jan 2012 Tue 09:35 am   Quoting Abla Strange...I need to think about this again. Can you tell me any use for gerek|tik, gerek|en, gerek|ecek, gerek|ir participles?   Gitmem gerektiği zaman söyle. Tell me when I have to go. Bitirmem gereken ödevlerim var. I have homeworks that I have to finish. Söylemem gerekecek şey onu üzebilir. The thing I will have to say can make him upset.   We don´t use gerekir as an adjective.

Thread: gerekmek

3370.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jan 2012 Tue 09:12 am   Quoting Abla Does gerekmek function as a normal verb in inlayed sentences? I tried some equivalents of relative clauses to test the principle  -  they may be incorrect. the flowers which I had to buy almam gerekmiş çiçekler the traveller who had to open her bag torbasını açması gerekmiş yolcu the father whose daughter had to marry the butcher kızının kasapla evlenmesi gerekmiş baba miş makes the verb gerek adjective here. And "gerek" is the predicate of inlayed sentence.

Thread: nerelisiniz

3371.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Jan 2012 Mon 09:12 pm   Quoting bizan Then, the suffix -li -lı always adds meaning of place?    Thak you, Luis. Not always.  Ex: sevgi-li  love-r değer-li value -able haraket-li act-ive   You see it gives many different meanings.

Thread: En to Tr please

3372.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Jan 2012 Mon 09:06 pm   Quoting Abla Merhaba, nasıl gidiyor? Her şey yolunda mı? Yılbaşı partisi n nasıl idi?

Thread: correct please

3373.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Jan 2012 Mon 08:55 pm cinlerin beynimde yap-dık-ı düğün we can translate this sentence in two ways: 1)the ceremony which jinns do in my brain 2)the ceremony which jinns did in my brain   -dık makes a verb adjective and also  gives a past meaning if the predicate doesn´t contradict it. Edited (1/2/2012) by gokuyum acute liked this message

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3374.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Jan 2012 Mon 08:37 pm   Quoting acute Bu yağmur - this rain   Bu yağmur... bu yağmur... bu kıldan ince thinner than hair this rain.... this rain...   Nefesten yumuşak yağan bu yağmur... bu yağmur... this rain this falling rain... softer than breath   Bu yağmur... bu yağmur... bir gün dinince. the day when it stop this rain... this rain....   Aynalar yüzümü tanımaz olur. mirrors will not recognize my face   Bu yağmur kanımı boğan bir iplik   a thread which chokes my blood this rain   Tenimde acısız yatan bir bıçak a knife lying in my skin without pain       Bu yağmur yerde taş ve bende kemik a stone on the ground and a bone in me this rain   Dayandıkça çisil çisil yağacak. it will pour (pitter patter  drizzle ) as long as I endure      Bu yağmur delilik vehminden üstün; superior than the suspicion of craziness this rain   Karanlık kovulmaz düşüncelerden. from (my) thoughts darkness is not expelled   Cinlerin beynimde yaptığı düğün n my brain jinns do the wedding ceremony the wedding ceremony of jinns which they do in my brain The wedding ceremony which jinns do in my brain   Sulardan, seslerden ve gecelerden. from waters, from sounds and from the nights   I have tried to correct  a few things but still not sure  if all is right anyone...........?   I corrected little mistakes. You did a great job.

Thread: correct please

3375.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Jan 2012 Mon 09:22 am   Quoting acute thank you  what do you think about the word cinlerin  is jinn´s better or should it be demon´s   Jinn is better. Demon is an old Greek word. And demons are all evil creatures. But jinn is an Arabic word. And some of the jinns are evil and some of them are good creatures. So there is a difference between jinn and demon. Edited (1/2/2012) by gokuyum Inscrutable , jolanaze and CHiZZY liked this message

Thread: gerekmek

3376.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Jan 2012 Mon 09:18 am   Quoting acute   Actually you could also blank out the other tense suffixes as the words dün and yarın already indicate when the actions take place.   Actually you can´t blank out past tense suffix even you use "dün". Because "gerek" without a tense suffix only express present and future. So you should use past tense suffix after gerek when the action occured in the past. Ex: Dün akşam eve gitmem gerekti.     Edited (1/2/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: gerekmek

3377.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Jan 2012 Mon 08:51 am   Quoting Abla I don´t. That´s why I am asking. I use it a lot but I always suspect. But you know, gokuyum, this is excellent news. So, gerekmek should only be used in sg 3rd, isn´t it? Yes.

Thread: correct please

3378.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Jan 2012 Mon 08:48 am   Quoting acute thank you for your help what do you think of this line cinlerin ( jinn geni elves or  demon ) should it be your jinn does the wedding ceremony in my brain or was I closer to right the first time I keep second guessing myself Cinlerin beynimde yaptığı düğün n my brain demons do the wedding ceremony the wedding ceremony of demons which they do in my brain   cinlerin beynimde yap - dık -ı düğün   "dık" makes the verb "yapmak" adjective. When "yapmak" becomes adjective, the words highlighted red alltogether become an adjective group.   They answer the question "what kind of a ceremony?" or "which ceremony?" Answer is "The ceremony which demons do in my brain" Edited (1/2/2012) by gokuyum Edited (1/2/2012) by gokuyum Edited (1/2/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: gerekmek

3379.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Jan 2012 Mon 08:40 am   Quoting Abla I googled some verb forms. There are hundreds of hits for *gerekiyorum.   Don´t trust google always.

Thread: gerekmek

3380.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Jan 2012 Mon 08:34 am   Quoting Abla I didn´t conjugate it. I found the sentences.   Where did you find them?

Thread: correct please

3381.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Jan 2012 Mon 08:33 am   Quoting acute For the new year I decided to translate a poem by Ahmet Necip Fazıl Kısakürek. Please feel free to correct or suggest better english meanings.   Bu yağmur - this rain   Bu yağmur... bu yağmur... bu kıldan ince thinner than hair this rain.... this rain...   Nefesten yumuşak yağan bu yağmur... bu yağmur... this rain this falling rain... softer than breath   Bu yağmur... bu yağmur... bir gün dinince. the day when it stop this rain... this rain....   Aynalar yüzümü tanımaz olur. mirrors will not recognize my face   Bu yağmur kanımı boğan bir iplik a thread which chokes my blood this rain   Tenimde acısız yatan bir bıçak the knife lying in my skin without pain   (It should be a knife)   Bu yağmur yerde taş ve bende kemik a stone on the ground and a bone in me this rain   Dayandıkça çisil çisil yağacak. pouring rain (pitter patter ) as long as I endure  (It will pour)   Bu yağmur delilik vehminden üstün; superior than the suspicion of craziness this rain   Karanlık kovulmaz düşüncelerden. from thoughts darkness is not expelled   Cinlerin beynimde yaptığı düğün n my brain demons do the wedding ceremony the wedding ceremony of demons which they do in my brain   Sulardan, seslerden ve gecelerden. from waters, from sounds and from the nights       acute liked this message

Thread: gerekmek

3382.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Jan 2012 Mon 08:30 am   Quoting Abla   Türkiye´de çalışmam için ne gerekiyor  um? Bugün bir şey yapmadım gerekiyorum.  ? Yılda bir kere sağlık kontrolundan geçmem gerekiyor um. Facebook’un size gönderdiği e-mail e cevap vermeniz gerekiyor uz.   You shouldn´t conjugate "gerek" abla. It must be always "third person"

Thread: T-E lutfen

3383.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Jan 2012 Mon 08:23 am   Quoting Henry my attempt işin gücün yok * (I think this is colloquial to mean) you have nothing better to do onlar uğraş (and) they work [* my reference point]   Like you dont have nothing to do, deal with him. (a sarcastic sentence)   Edited (1/2/2012) by gokuyum Henry liked this message

Thread: trk 2 eng pls

3384.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Jan 2012 Mon 08:17 am   Quoting Henry some more ..... üzme kendini ne olur ..... Don´t make yourself sad with what happens Don´t take it to heart with what will be   "ne olur" means "please" in this sentence. It is weird but we sometimes use "ne olur" as "please". Don´t make yourself sad please. Henry and nifrtity liked this message

Thread: trk 2 eng pls

3385.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Jan 2012 Mon 08:15 am   Quoting Henry my attempt at the first few sentences İngiltere´den ne haber? What´s the news from England? Görüşüyor musunuz daha? Are you talking with us (seeing us) any more? Seni kızdırmıyor umarım. I hope it is not annoying you  Corrections: 1)Are you talking with eachother? 2)I hope he/she is not annoying you.   Henry liked this message

Thread: T to E please^^

3386.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Jan 2012 Sun 05:42 pm   Quoting Abla So what is the meaning of yapar vallahi? As I couldn´t understand it I tried to connect it to the previous text...   I swear to God he does (what he says)

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

3387.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Jan 2012 Sun 08:31 am   Quoting Abla It looks too bad. Thank you for your help, gokuyum. The corrections are very clear and most of them I understood as soon as I saw them. I have been very careless. Notes: 1. Minibüsler öyle korkunç bir şekilde sürülüyor ki…: Don’t vehicles drive themselves in Turkish (in many languages they do)? No, they go by themselves in Turkish. Ex: Araba gitti. 2. bir yabancı gibi görünüyorsan…: It seems to me that present continuos tense is widely used in expressions of feelings and sensory perception. Am I right? I am not sure. 3. turist polisine geçirmeni tehmin götürmekle tehdit et; Kadınlar sürücünün yanında oturmaktan sakınmalılar: I can’t really understand the division or labour between me- and mek-infinitives. Is it something that can be understood or is it a lexical question (certain verbs govern words with certain forms and that’s all there is to it)? --me and -mek makes verbs nouns. Difference between them is when you add -mek to a verb it gives you the name of that action, its infinitive mood. But sometimes difference between them is so small you can use one of them instead of other. Ex: Götürmekle tehdit et. Or Götürmeyle tehdit et.   Here is an example that you can´t use one instead of other:   Gitmek çok zor. Going is very difficult. OR To go is very difficult. Gitme çok zor. This sentence sounds very weird.     Edited (1/1/2012) by gokuyum Edited (1/1/2012) by gokuyum Edited (1/1/2012) by gokuyum Edited (1/1/2012) by gokuyum

Thread: T to E please^^

3388.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Jan 2012 Sun 08:09 am   Quoting Abla This was difficult for me and there are probably mistakes (plus a couple of white places in the end): My dear, as I told you everything is going to be fine. Soon I am going to do away with those who intervene. If some curious idiots watch what we are writing to each other they will see. In any case I am saying openly very soon I will really balance the accounts with you once more. Your fear of me will make it impossible for you to open those mouths of yours, I promise you. You will be in a position that you will not be able to open your mouths. Be afraid of me. XXX we say let the jealous get mad. May XXX get mad.

Thread: T to E please^^

3389.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Jan 2012 Sun 08:00 am   Quoting Henry   My attempt, but wait for corrections or confirmation  mutlu yıllar* canım. Happy New Year my dear (* literally means have ´happy years´, and it can also be used for birthdays and anniversaries) 2012´de nişanı yapta oynayalım güzelım. In 2012 let us perform the engagement party/ceremony my lovely.  öptüm  my kisses (I kissed)    2012´de nişanı yapta oynayalım güzelim. Do the engagement ceremony in 2012, so let us dance. Note:" to play" here means "to dance".   Henry liked this message

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

3390.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Dec 2011 Sat 06:53 am   Quoting Abla 1. The metro system runs efficiently. Metro sistemi etkili bir şekilde çalışır  2. It is without doubt the quickest and cheapest way to transverse the city, costing just 1 L.E. Șüphesiz şehirde karşıdan karşıya yolculuk etmek için en hızlı ve en ucuz, fiyatı yalnız bir Mısır lirası olan araçtır. 3. Metro tickets can be purchased at any of the kiosks in the station. Metro biletler istasyondaki külübelerden herhangi birinden  satın alınabilir. 4. Note that the first two carts of every train are only for women. Her trenin ilk iki arabasının yalnız kadınlar için olduğunu dikkate al. 5. So if you’re a man try not to get in one of these carts. Yani bir erkeksen olursan bu arabaların herhangi birine binmemeye çalış. 6. However, if you look foreign most women would probably not comment and just assume you aren’t aware of the rule. Ne var ki bir yabancı gibi görünüyorsan kadınların çoğu herhalde söz söylemeyip senin yönetimin kuralın farkında varmadığını olmadığını zannede y ecek. 7. You may need to learn the Arabic numerals, as some bus services use them instead of numbers that we know. Bazı otobüs hizmetleri bildiğimiz sayıların yerine Arap ça sayılarını kullandığı için onları öğrenmek zorunda kalabilirsin. 8. Microbuses drive so horribly you have to be ready for a wobbly ride, but it’s easier to use them than buses if you don’t speak Arabic. Minibüsler öyle korkunç bir şekilde sürülüyor ki dingildeyen bir binmeye sürüşe hazırlanmalısın, ama Arapçayı bilirsen onları n kullanması otobüslerden daha kolay. 9. When you don’t know the way they tend to choose the longer route to get you to pay more. Sen yolu bilmediğinde seni daha çok para ödemek zorunda kaldırmak bırakmak için daha uzun yolu seçerler. 10. Simply stand at the side of the road and at the sight of an approaching taxi point your hand towards the road. The driver will slowly cruise past you. Ancak Basitçe yolun tarafında ayakta durup yaklaşan bir taksi görüyorken elinle yolu işaret et. Sürücü yavaş yavaş önünden dolaşacak. 11. Women should avoid sitting next to the driver. Kadınlar sürücünün yanında oturmaktan sakınmalılar. 12. If you are certain he is trying to gouge you, threaten to take the matter to the tourist police, which all cabbies fear. Onun fiyatı fazla yükseltmeye kalkıştığından masından emin olursan davayı konuyu her sürücünün korktuğu turist polisine geçirmeni tehmin götürmekle tehdit et. 13. However, please note that the majority of taxi drivers are polite, shy and satisfied with what they get, providing the fair offered is reasonable. Ama taksicilerin çoğunluğunun nazik, çekingen ve verilen diği fiyat makul olursa aldığından memnun olduğunu lütfen dikkate al. 14. The only way for a pedestrian to cross a street safely in Cairo is to ignore the cars. Bir yayanın Kahire’de bir sokaktan emniette emniyetle geçirmenin geçmesinin tek yolu arabalara boş vermektir.     Edited (12/31/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/31/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: A White Christmas?

3391.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Dec 2011 Thu 03:53 pm   Quoting lemon     I think you will see him yourself when you arrive in hell and you will be greatly disturbed that all things you thought symbolic will turn out to be real. But then it will be too late. Invisible doesnt mean non-existing. I will send a card to you to heaven.   Edited (12/29/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: A White Christmas?

3392.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Dec 2011 Thu 01:58 pm   Quoting lemon     Satan is million times intelligent than you. The only thing that holds him against God is PRIDE! Satan was the first and best angel. He was so beautiful, so clever and powerful that he thought he could be god. He still believes that he actually is no less than God. God doesnt tolerate such thing because God is the Creator and everything else is a creation. Imagine yourself that you created a machine, a perfect one. And one day the machine says I created myself, theres no creator, btw, Im the creator. Is it true or false? BTW, did you watch the link?   Say hi from me to Satan when you see him. Okay? Say to him gokuyum thinks you are so stupid.

Thread: A White Christmas?

3393.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Dec 2011 Thu 10:18 am   Quoting lemon goku, none of those things are symbolic. What you are saying are satanic lies. He made up such lies in order to destroy you. Satan is real so is hell and heaven. God is real. Punishment is real. You have to fear God. Here is the link, listen to this guy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-JIgZ1KSCA   So you believe in a Satan who is so stupid that he thinks he can compete against God. Believe me nobody can be that stupid.   Edited (12/29/2011) by gokuyum stumpy liked this message

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3394.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Dec 2011 Thu 08:34 am 1) Can you fix this this light ? I think the men broke the wire inside the wall, when they fitted the airconditioning. ( NB not sure of the word "to fit "from new in Turkish, as opposed to fix or repair something that is already there.) Bu lamba tamir etebilyor musunuz ? Duvari icinde teli adamlar kirdiler dusuniyorum, ne zaman klimaya tamir etti.   2) I have a small house in Konya. Cucuk bir evim Konya´da var.   3) I am visiting Istanbul between 10th and 15th March. It would be good to see you Rehan and Cigdem if you are there. Istanbul´a on ve on bes Mart arasinda ziyaret ediyorum. Sen, Rehan ve Cigdem iyi seniz gormek orada kalirseniz Quoting Abla I can give it a first try but I am a learner like you. Do not trust me but wait for teachers. Bu lambayı tamir edebiliryor musunuz edebilir misiniz? Klimayı tamir ederken erkeklerin adamların duvar içindeki teli kırdıklarını düşünüyorum. Konya’da küçük bir evim var. Martın 10’undan 15’ine dek İstanbul’u ziyaret ediyorum. Siz oradaysanız kalırsanız Rehan ile Çiğdem’i görmek iyi olur. In my humble opinion the first thing you should keep in mind if you want to improve your Turkish is to place the modifier before the modified.

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3395.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Dec 2011 Thu 08:30 am Yavrum burda nısanlı yazıyor hayırlı olsun sekerım Bu Askin Sonu Evlilik Olsun 3tane´de Bebegi olsun... 2´ Erkek 1´de Kiz olsun Su Goenluemuen Muradi Olsun Simdi Uzaklardasin,Benimle Degil... Ben Ise Yalnizim,Seninle Degil... Adin Kalbimde,Dilimde Degil... Kalbim Seninle,Icimde Degil... Seni Cok Seviyorum,Elimde Degil... Quoting Abla My Try: My love(or my dear), this is the engaged guy who is writing. Good luck with it, sugar. May the result of this love be marriage, may there be three babies, two boys and one girl. (Then I think the writer is suggesting their names but I am not sure.) May will/wish (murat) of my heart happen. Now you are far away, not with me, and me, I am alone, not with you, your name is in my heart, not on my tongue, my heart is where you are, not with me, I love you so much, it´s beyond my power.

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3396.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Dec 2011 Thu 05:52 am   Quoting lemon   Satan and demons create miracles too, goku. Satan is a symbole lemon. It symbolises humans wicked desires. And demons are nothing more than lost souls. Sufism too touches mysticism. I suggest you dont get interested in this too for your own safety. So what if it touches? The religions don´t touch it? Christianity is not a slavation. Christ is salvation. There will be many christians who will burn in hell. Hell is also a symbole lemon. It is a mental situation that some exprience. I love and respect Christ a lot. But I don´t think he is god. And I dont think accepting him God will save anybody. Only thing can save people is love. I dont judge people, Bible judges. Bible is a book full of metaphores. Bible´s aim is not to judge people, to show them the way. Goku, I ve always shared this, I ve always said that Christ is the only way, truth and salvation. No once can be saved but through Christ Jesus. Only way is to love eachother. And only thing that really kills a soul is fanatism.       stumpy liked this message

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3397.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2011 Wed 07:47 pm   Quoting lemon     I warn you Goku, do not play with spiritualism. You may get consumed by demons. Sai baba is a demon possessed dangerous guru. Get yourself out of demons and seek the true God who is merciful and will save you from all your transgression.     I am not a follower of Sai Baba. He is an example of people who can create miracles. Yes I am very interested in spiritualism but I am also very close to sufism. But these are all bullshit for you and only way to save your soul is to be Christian right? The others will burn in hell.    And why do you judge and blame people so easily without any proof? But if you say you have a proof, why don´t you share it with us? Edited (12/28/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/28/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/28/2011) by gokuyum

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3398.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2011 Wed 07:03 am   Quoting Abla etkili olarak ~ etkili bir şekilde sağlıklı olarak ~ sağlıklı bir şekilde hızlı olarak ~ hızlı bir şekilde özel olarak ~ özel bir şekilde Do they mean the same or close? If you can use one for a certain adjective can you use the other one, too? I would prefer to use ".... bir şekilde"

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3399.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Dec 2011 Tue 05:03 pm   Quoting scalpel      I am in a mood to argue today  goku, you used ..ermmmm.. let me count.......  "can" seven times in your translation.. but there is no word nor a suffix in the Turkish text equivalent to English "can"..  sevgili arkadaşım kimseye sensiz olmaz deme çünkü gün gelir olmaz dediklerinin hepsi olur olur gözüyle baktıkların ise olmaz Is there any? Here goes my analysis.. so it kisses the hands of a native speaker of English to be put in a proper sentence ) sevgili arkadaşım - my dear friend  kimseye - (to ) nobody  "sensiz olmaz" deme - don´t say, "it is impossible without you" çünkü - because gün gelir - a day comes olmaz dediklerinin hepsi- all the things you think that are impossible olur- become (possible) olur gözüyle baktıkların ise- and those you think that are possible olmaz - become (impossible)   p.s. goku, with "arguing mood" I, of course, was kidding.. and for my analysis.. just wanted to open "another" window for some fresh air.. that´s all   Let me answer you Scalpel   First of all there is a note in my post saying my translation is not literal. I put such a note because I was expecting an attack from you   These "olur" and "olmaz" are adressing " sensiz olmaz deme". So I prefered to use "with" and "without"  In my first translation I translated "sensiz olmaz deme" as "dont say not without you" and others like that. But abla said she didnt understand. Then to make my translation more understandable I changed it as "Don´t say I can´t be without you" and others likewise.   As I mentioned before because I wrote a note about my translation that it was not literal, I took the oppurtinity to make it more understandable sacraficing its literality. And I took help from a native English speaker Sashk not to make a mistake.   So that is the history of my translation attempt.     Edited (12/27/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/27/2011) by gokuyum

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3400.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Dec 2011 Tue 03:48 pm   Quoting Abla Very tightly packed information. Thank you, gokuyum, the idea is understandable this way. But how it comes from this structure is not: olmaz dediklerinin hepsi olur olur gözüyle baktıklarının ise olmaz I guess subject (olmaz dediklerinin hepsi) is clear and the predicate olmaz is in the end. But what is the syntactic position of bak|tık|ları|n|ın = stem + participle + poss pl 3rd + -n- + gen and what is ise ‘if’ doing here? But. Maybe it is just too complicated for me. I will go back and sulk in my desk for the rest of the day.   Olmaz dediklerinin hepsi olur, olur gözüyle baktıklarının ise olmaz. There are two predicates that means there are two subjects.  First subject is clear as you said. But what is the second subject? There are two options: 1)It is "(senin) olur gözüyle baktıkların" So there is no need for a connection suffix after baktıkların ın    2)It is "(senin) olur gözüyle baktıklarının hepsi". There must be "hepsi" after "baktıklarının".   You asked what "ise" doing there. "ise" is not "if" there, it is "as for" If you think like that it makes sense.   I am not sure but I guess if "ise" comes after a noun it gains "as for" meaning.   Edited (12/27/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/27/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/27/2011) by gokuyum

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3401.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Dec 2011 Tue 10:58 am Okay. I tried it again

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3402.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Dec 2011 Tue 04:34 am   Quoting lakklo sevgili arkadaşım kimseye sensiz olmaz deme çünkü gün gelir olmaz dediklerinin hepsi olur olur gözüyle baktıkların ise olmaz   My dear friend. Don´t say to anybody "I can not be without you". Because one day the people to whom you said "I cant be with you" you can say "I can´t  be without you" and the people to whom you said "I cant be without you" you can say "I cant be with you" Note: My translation is not very literal. Wow. It was complicated. I hope it makes sense.   Thanks sashk for her help. Edited (12/27/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/27/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/27/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/27/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/27/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/27/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/27/2011) by gokuyum harp00n liked this message

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3403.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Dec 2011 Tue 04:21 am   Quoting Abla What is the Turkish word for the Arabic nasheed? Is it ilahi? Can someone recommend some more Turkish religious songs?   Look at here. And here is a site you can listen to Turkish ilahis. http://www.ilahiler.be/populer50sarki.php  Edited (12/27/2011) by gokuyum

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3404.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Dec 2011 Tue 04:16 am   Quoting zizoo Person 1: tamam yılbasında sen gel buraya ben senin yerine gidiym Person 2: benimde kuzenlerim gelecek. gerçi bizimkinin yılbasıyla alakası yok Person 1: tamam kuzenleiıni de getir daha iyi olur hem benim hıncınmı alırsın Person 2: başka bir haftasonu olaydı keşke her yer kalabalık olmazdı  Person 1: sen getir buraya halledin işinizi ben asagıda beklerım    My Try: Person 1: Ok, you come here on New Year´s. I will go instead of you (or I´ll go to your place!). Person 2: My cousins will come too to me. Althogh, we ours  have no relationship (relevance) to New Year´s. Person 1: Ok, bring your cousins also with you, it would be better (can´t translate the rest of that phrase!) Person 2:If  It was would have been another weekend´s event. If only all places would be were not crowded! Person 1: You bring to here your issues (work) and solve them. I will wait ´m waiting down there.

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3405.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Dec 2011 Tue 04:11 am Person 1: tamam yılbasında sen gel buraya ben senin yerine gidiym Person 2: benimde kuzenlerim gelecek. gerçi bizimkinin yılbasıyla alakası yok Person 1: tamam kuzenleiıni de getir daha iyi olur hem benim hıncınmı alırsın Person 2: başka bir haftasonu olaydı keşke her yer kalabalık olmazdı  Person 1: sen getir buraya halledin işinizi ben asagıda beklerım  Quoting deli    ok you come here at the new year ill go instead of you /in your place and my cousins will come, although  there is no interest of ours with the new year ok bring your cousins aswell, it will be better , besides let my revenge be taken if  it would be an event was another weekend if only everywhere wasn`t wouldnt be so crowded bring your work and complete here/finish it here I will wait for you downstairs   my try but wait for corrections

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3406.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Dec 2011 Tue 04:03 am   Quoting askcafer     My translation would be: Lütfen beni ekleyin ve benim eğlenceli Lara Croft sayfamı beğensin beğenin.

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3407.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Dec 2011 Sun 12:50 pm   Quoting Abla Thank you for checking my excercises, gokuyum. Notes: 1. ikiz kardeşlerin in beraber (birarada is better) kalması: First I thought you deleted my genitive ending but it’s the possessive suffix that you removed, isn’t it? It means ikiz kardeşler is like kadın doktor or erkek arkadaş.(Yes) Actually there were two connection sufixes in the word and I deleted one of them. 2. (Miğfer is an old war tool): You must be so much amused sometimes. 3. Dürüst olarak olmak gerekirse: What is wrong with dürüst olarak? Is is that the main clause has another subject? I thougt with olmak it is possible. It just sounds weird here 4. Bir şahısın akıllı olup olmadığının nesnel olarak söylenmesinin sade bir şekilde (or basitçe) olanaksız olduğunu iddia ediyorum: I though indirect questions always take future participle but I was wrong. yes      Edited (12/25/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/25/2011) by gokuyum

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3408.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Dec 2011 Sun 12:20 pm   Quoting barba_mama     It´s not common behaviour in intelligent adults, and it should REALLY not be the behaviour of a government.   Being adult is something about being mature. And maturity is about moral reasoning. If you examine the Kohlberg´s stages of moral reasoning only a few people can be considered mature. You can come across many people who have a childish moral reasoning. And this is very common. Even this discussion is childish. We do it to satisfy our egos knowing it will not change anything. It is like a competition about who pees further.   Edited (12/25/2011) by gokuyum

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3409.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Dec 2011 Sun 12:05 am   Quoting Abla Expressing opinions: 1. In my view, birds should not be kept in cages. Bana göre, kuşlar kafeste tutulmamalı. 2. How important is it, in your view, that the twins should stay together? ~ In my opinion, it´s very important. Size göre, ikiz kardeşlerin in beraber (birarada is better) kalması ne kadar önemli? ~ Fikrimce, çok önemli. 3. From my point of view it makes no difference whether you return on Saturday night or Sunday morning. İster Cumartesi gecesi ister Pazar sabahı dön, benim için farketmez. 4. From a political point of view, the agreement of the UN is extremely important. Siyasi açıdan bakınca Birleşmiş Milletler’in anlaşması aşırı derecede önemlidir. 5. From the point of view of safety, always wear a helmet when you are on the building site. Emniyet bakımından bina yerinde bulunurken her zaman bir miğfer kask giyin. (Miğfer is an old war tool) 6. To my mind the quality of their football is just not good enough. Kanımca, fulbollarının niteliği sadece yeterince iyi değil. 7. I reckon it´ll rain later today. Let´s go tomorrow. Sonra bugün sonradan yağmur yağacağını zannedıyorum. Yarın gidelim. 8. I feel she shouldn´t be getting married so young. Bana öyle geliyor ki o kadar gençken evlenmemeli. 9. If you ask me, it´s unreasonable to pay for something which should be free. Bana sorarsan, bedava olması gereken bir şey için para ödenmesi mantıksız. 10. To be honest, I´m surprised you got into university with such low grades. Dürüst olarak olmak gerekirse, o kadar kötü notlarla üniversiteye girmen beni şaşırttı. 11. As far as I´m concerned, the matter is over and done with and we can now move forward. Bana gelince, konu olup bitti ve biz şimdi ileri hareket edebiliriz. (ilerleyebiliriz is better) 12. How acceptable is it for wild animals to be kept in zoos? Yabani hayvanların hayvan bahçelerinde tutulması ne kadar kabul edilebilir? 13. It seems to me that the best relationships - the ones that last - are frequently the ones that are rooted in friendship. Bana öyle görünüyor ki en iyi, dayanan (dayanaklı ilişkiler sıklıkla sık kökleri arkadaşlıkta bulunanlardır. (a fact)  14. I would argue that it is simply impossible to objectively tell if a person is intelligent. Bir şahısın akıllı olup olmadığının nesnel olarak söylenmesinin sade bir şekilde (or basitçe) olanaksız olduğunu iddia ediyorum. 15. It´s sometimes argued that there is no real progress. Bazen gerçek ilerlemenin olmadığı tartışılır. 16. By this I mean hospitals and schools should be our first priority. Bununla hastane ile okulların birinci önceliğimiz olmasının gerektiğini demek istiyorum. (not plural because they are not humans)     Edited (12/25/2011) by gokuyum

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3410.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Dec 2011 Sat 11:53 pm   Quoting barba_mama Why is it that whenever Turkey is accused of something, the government defends itself by accusing the accuser something worse, instead of just sticking to initial complaint. It´s like a schoolyard row. "You are stupid!" "Well, you are a stinky poo!"   It is a common human behavior and it is not about being a child. It is a defence mechanism.

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3411.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Dec 2011 Sat 11:51 pm   Quoting barba_mama Sometimes I wonder if Jesus wasn´t a messiah, but if he was a time taveller from the future. Whenever I switch on the tv there is a random magician around walking on water, or a doctor curing a sick person by rubbing on a lotion. I have even see somebody turn water into wine at Yetenem sizsiniz... Anyway, merry christmas, and a happy chanuka too I was a materialist once upon a time. And there was no difference between a magician and a prophet in my opinion. They were all fake. But then I started to be interested in spiritualism. And I read many interesting things.Then I started to believe that  there are people who can perform miracles.  I learnt one of them this month after I read a book. His name Sathya Sai Baba and you can find the book here.

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3412.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Dec 2011 Fri 10:47 am   Quoting lemon     What you wrote is not a sarcasm. It is an utter stupidity. You laughed at Holy of Holies, the Messiah. Jesus is not a joke to laugh at.   It was that fake mesiah Haile Selasie who I laughed at. And I would expect you to understand it since you are the smartest person on the forum   Edited (12/23/2011) by gokuyum Abla liked this message

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3413.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Dec 2011 Fri 10:39 am   Quoting lemon     It is not my fault that you lack intelligence to understand my sarcasm aimed at: turkishtalltales.com It seems you dont understand my sarcasm too

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3414.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Dec 2011 Fri 04:59 am   Quoting LAB please can someone translate for me please   beyni ile seven çıkarı için sever fakat kalbi ile sevende çıkar olmaz. who loves with his brain, he loves for his interests and who loves with his heart he doesnt have any interets.               Edited (12/23/2011) by gokuyum jolanaze and MarioninTurkey liked this message

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3415.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Dec 2011 Thu 10:40 pm   Quoting deli      oh! you have slept already, you wont sleep mk sözde mk? goodnight scoundrel, I still love you dude/mate   my try mk and aq and ak are same things. They mean let me f...  your/her/its (or even "his")  p....y literally. But metaphorically they mean "god damn it". Sorry for the  straightforwardness  of my explanation.   Edited (12/22/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/22/2011) by gokuyum Nitas liked this message

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3416.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Dec 2011 Thu 10:37 pm   Quoting jolanaze Harp00n, again MANY MANY THANKS!!!!!   please can you also tell me what exactly means Yalarım seni?       any more fantasies?

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3417.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Dec 2011 Thu 10:30 pm So lemon is grandaughter of messiah exactly as I suspected.

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3418.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Dec 2011 Thu 10:26 pm I will not boycott anything untill government boycotts too. Then there will be no need of me boycotting anything. Edited (12/22/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/22/2011) by gokuyum

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3419.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Dec 2011 Sun 04:49 pm   Quoting lemon     Thats right, Gokuyum, its true. Users like Si++ and Tunci dont give a toss about the victims all they care is the honor of Turkey, nothing more. They feel no pain, no sytmpathy when talking about killings but pure honor, for this honor if the government says go and kill more, they will go and kill. And I am sure, Gokuyum, you will join them. You turned this discussion into your own show lemon. Don´t expect me to believe that you are sincere. Nobody can bring back deads by arguing and fighting but they can create more victims. No nation is innocent. And there is no real justice in this world. Every nation can blame other easily with genocide. And this will take us nowhere. I trust only God´s judgement not humans´.

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3420.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Dec 2011 Sun 02:38 am I guess only divine justice can solve this problem and we can only make it worse like we always do. And here most of the people discuss this issue to satisfy their egos they dont give a shit about the victims of this war.

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3421.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Dec 2011 Sat 10:21 pm   Quoting deli Quoting askcafe   rPerson 1: Bugün telefonum hiç susmadı ne hikmetse.uzun zamandır böyle yogunluk yasamadı bu telefon   for what ever purpose my telephone has never been silent today this phone hasnt experienced use like this for a long time   Person 2: bende kasıyım o zaman in that case i`ll keep it short let me try hard too   Person : gel gel gel güzelim gel hiç acımayacak come come come my beauty it will never be  painfull? Person 2: Geliyorum, çal İzmir marşını. Im coming ring play izmir march? Person 1: hm gel bakalım yamacıma come right now lets see yamacima?? come near me Please and thank you. MY TRY

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3422.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Dec 2011 Sat 10:13 pm he does not care about her daughter right? why he does not writte to her? he can send free messages to my cellphone, and he never do that. what can I think... Quoting Abla I will give it a try but wait for natives, Leylak111. Onun kızı sı onun umurunda değil, doğru mu? Ona niye yazmaz? Cep telefonuma parasız mesajlar gönderebilip de (gönderebilecekken seems better) hiç bunu yapmaz. Ne düşünebiliyorum düşünebilirim?

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3423.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Dec 2011 Wed 03:36 pm I edited my post. Now it seems okay. Edited (12/14/2011) by gokuyum

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3424.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Dec 2011 Wed 03:32 pm ,      Edited (12/14/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/14/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/14/2011) by gokuyum

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3425.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Dec 2011 Wed 03:31 pm   Quoting Abla And what brings it there?   (benim) ne yapmam gerektiği konusunda (this is a noun phrase) im is a connection suffix and it needs partners which have possesive suffixes. Edited (12/14/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/14/2011) by gokuyum sashk liked this message

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3426.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Dec 2011 Wed 03:24 pm   Quoting Abla May I ask how to analyse this structure? gerektiği must be a form of the verb gerekmek, a participle, but is there a possessive suffix or an accusative ending in it? emin olmak takes ablative, it can´t be the reason. Besides, if someone would bother to explain the syntactic use of gerek and gerekmek more widely I guess it would be useful. It often confuses  -  me at least.   Let me try: ne  yap-ma-m  gerek- tik-i  konu-su-n-da  emin  değil-im i is possesive suffix I am not sure about emin olmak has to always take ablative. Edited (12/14/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/14/2011) by gokuyum

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3427.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Dec 2011 Wed 03:41 am   sen bana bi cam acmadın ama ben kutladım You didn´t turn on a webcam for me, but I celebrated Person 1: dün akşam bi açmadın kırdın kalbimizi yesterday evening you didn´t turn on, you broke our heart   Person 2: bugün eyxana açdim. gel sanada açim today I turned on Eyxana (Azerbaijani music?) [It seems it is a name] come I will open for you too Person 1: yayın(yarın?) yap geleyim. msn ver ordan aç make a broadcast(do it tomorrow?), let me come, give me a msn message, after this switch it on Next day: Person 1: sen bana bi cam (webcam) açmadın ama ben kutladım You didn´t turn on a webcam for me, but I celebrated Person 2: haha napim ya  inandiniz mi artik bana Ha ha what am I doing? Will you believe me from now on?   Edited (12/14/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/14/2011) by gokuyum

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3428.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Dec 2011 Tue 07:51 pm   Impersonal sentences are another source of confusion: İsteyen tüm arkadaşların katılmasını rica ederim.  There is ø in the place of the indirect object and the genitive noun is the subject of the passive infinitive. Well, it is not the simplest thing in the world.      I don´t think there is a problem with this sentence.

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3429.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Dec 2011 Tue 07:47 pm   1) Ben (başbakanın daha sakin olmasını ) rica ediyorum (incorrect) It is incorrect because the question "from who" is unanswered.. You can say  Ben (başbakanın daha sakin olmasını ) kendisinden rica ediyorum But it doesn´t sound great.    Why do you think so? I don´t think it is incorrect. It is just the other way of expressing it. It is not necessary that "from who" to be anwered.   Edited (12/13/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/13/2011) by gokuyum

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3430.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Dec 2011 Tue 07:40 pm   Quoting Hallederiz i think "kusum" would be "kuzum" ( my little lamb No. We also say my bird.

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3431.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Dec 2011 Mon 03:47 pm   Quoting lakklo I am learning too and i appreciate your kindness and patience with us^^   You are welcome.

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3432.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Dec 2011 Mon 03:43 pm   Quoting lakklo Yes i noticed it and he is funny too!^^   Thank you very much. "Not literal" means sometimes it is very difficult to translate things word by word exactly as they are. So you must change expressions a little. But they still mean the same things. I mentioned that it was not literal because there are learners here and my translation can mislead them about some grammatical issues. So you see even translating a simpele text is a big responsibility. Edited (12/12/2011) by gokuyum archinia liked this message

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3433.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Dec 2011 Mon 03:00 pm   Quoting harp00n Buddy, ı dont have any doubt about your translate cause i know, if you do this, its right Thats why no problem even i cant see it I only live technical problem for this page. I couldnt understand it .   Thank you very much harpoon. I use google chrome and there is no problem. Try to use another browser my friend.

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3434.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Dec 2011 Mon 02:55 pm   Quoting harp00n Its so interesting, because i only cant see that page. I dont know why ?   Oh I thought you mentioned that you could not see anymore mistakes to correct.

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3435.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Dec 2011 Mon 02:50 pm   Quoting lakklo Teşekkür ederim^^   Rica ederim archinia liked this message

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3436.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Dec 2011 Mon 02:49 pm   Quoting harp00n I cant see anything   Thanks harpoon.

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3437.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Dec 2011 Mon 02:46 pm   Quoting lakklo Ho ok so i guess it conrrespond to our " je vous en prie" in french or "you are welcome" in englisH?     Yes, exactly. archinia liked this message

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3438.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Dec 2011 Mon 02:43 pm   Quoting lakklo yapan yapıyor valla hicte sıkmıyor orasi oyle insanin icinde olduktan sonra her turlu yapar. Her an gozunun onunde olsa bile yapar. neyse bu aldatma konusunu kapatalim One who wants to do it, does it. It is not that difficult. Yes agree. If it is inside of the person, he does it anyway. Even if he was always in front of your eyes, he would do it. Anyways lets close this cheating topic.   Note. My translation is not literal.   archinia liked this message

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3439.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Dec 2011 Mon 02:28 pm   Quoting Abla A Try: Artık takip edemiyorum 3 üde senin mi?Pepeere biliyorumda diğerleri için üzgünüm.Ha bu arada sen nasıl oluyorda Başbakanın dediğini uyguluyorsun?Yoksa müridimisin.Adam 3 çocuk yapın diyor eğer bu 3 üde seninse sıkı Tayyipçisin o zaman.)))))Allah bağışlasın kardeşim. Now I am can not follow ing. Are the three of them yours? I know *)the cute little child and I am sad because of for the others. Look at what you have become meanwhile. Are By the way how do you put ting into practice what the Prime Minister said? Or are n’t you his disciple? The man says make three children. If these three are yours in that case you are a strict supporter of Tayyip’s. May Allah bestow (the children to you), my brother. *) maybe French pépère, I don’t know    "bağışlamak" has a different meaning in the text. Edited (12/12/2011) by gokuyum

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3440.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Dec 2011 Mon 09:54 am   Quoting deli Quoting askcaferI come to this forum quite frequently for help and everyone is always very helpful. I really appreciate it.Person  1: Son zamanlarda pek iyi insana rastlamadım ya sütü bozuklar cıktı girmiyorum ben de hoş ama evet. I havent come across very many good people lately, Im not  joining in with those that appear because untrustworthy people appeared. Nice but yes good for me too???        Person 2: Azgınlar cıktıysa kötü kız için. if it slipped out without intention wild/mad people appeared, its bad for a the girl     benim gibiler cıksın     . ukala oldum bi anda ahha I have become a smartass over night    1: Yok yok haklısın no no you are right    zaten senin gibiler cıksın diye dua eder oldum.-      evde yalnız olacam gidince yine. istiklalden karı kız falan, fena fikirler değil heh when I come go, again I will be alone at home. independent from the whole household a few girl and women from İstiklal is not a bad idea huh         my try at some but wait for corrections     Edited (12/12/2011) by gokuyum

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3441.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Dec 2011 Mon 09:46 am   Daha ne yazayım kii çok şey var içimde. keşke yanı başımda olsaydın şimdide gözlerine bakabilseydim. ama az kaldı eylüle Quoting Abla Let me write some more as What should I write more, there are a lot of things inside of me. If only you were right beside me and I could look at your eyes now. But there is less time left until September.     ercheksargo liked this message

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3442.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Dec 2011 Mon 09:41 am   Quoting Abla I understand from your analyse, gokuyum, that the difference is something like this (if we try sentences which are as close to one another as possible): 1) Ben [başbakanın daha sakin olmasını] rica ediyorum. 2) Ben başbakandan [daha sakin olmasını] rica ediyorum. The hidden or visible indirect (ablative) object always belongs to the main clause, doesn’t it? If so, how does supposing it there or out of there take us any further? My idea was that in the previous example the governed clause is inlayed as a whole while in the latter the inlayed subject would actually be o/kendisi which means that the inlayed sentences would be something like 1) Başbakan daha sakin olacak. 2) O/kendisi daha sakin olacak. Not that it matters so much to me. Actually I was just trying to translate something, got stuck and began to play with this thought.   Yes, I think like you.

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3443.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Dec 2011 Mon 03:23 am   Quoting lakklo rica ederim^^!     You should say this after someone thanks you. If you want to thank someone say "Teşekkür ederim." archinia liked this message

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3444.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Dec 2011 Mon 03:09 am   Quoting lakklo Kimin yatagında çektin bu fotoğrafı? çapkınlık yapma sakın On whose bad you took this photo? Beware, don´t womanize  konus be Gulum... Speak my rose.... yok kiz Capkinlik yapmiyor... Yapmaz biliyorum icim cok rahat o yonden ;D No girl. He doesn´t womanize. I know that he doesn´t. I am very confident about that. (not literal) teyze oglum diye söylemiyorum ama yapmaz biliyorum sadıktır sevdigine sevdimi tam sever I don´t say this because he is son of my aunt. But I know he doesn´t. He is loyal to who he loves. When/if he loves, he loves fully.

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3445.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Dec 2011 Mon 02:42 am   Quoting Leylak111  tamam ayrlıycam              Maybe it is "tamam, ayarlıyacağım" Tamam, ayarlıyacağım Okay, I will arrange.   Edited (12/12/2011) by gokuyum

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3446.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Dec 2011 Sun 08:49 pm   Quoting Abla This is what the dictionary says about rica etmek: I understand who is requested is marked with ablative, what is requested with accusative (not always), right? This is clear when we operate with noun phrases: Rusça bilen bir arkadaştan yardım(object is not accusative here) rica ediyorum. But I am a little unsecure when it comes to the situation where a complete sentence is inlayed into a main clause with   rica etmek  as its predicate: Düğün fotoğraflarını çekeceğim. > Bir arkadaşım düğün fotoğraflarını çekmemi (benden) rica etti. (there is a hidden "benden" in this sentence)  Köşk sahiplerine davet mektubu gönderecekler. > (Onlardan) Köşk sahiplerine davet mektubu göndermeleri rica edildi. (there is a hidden onlardan in this sentence) As long as the inlayed subject is a personal pronoun you just add the equivalent possessive suffix in the end of the infinitive. But if the subject is a noun is it still going take ablative ending or will it take genitive and form a possessive construction together with the infinitive? I find both alternatives: (there is always an indirect object hidden or not in the sentence) İsteyen tüm arkadaşlar katılacaklar. > İsteyen tüm arkadaşların katılmasını (onlardan) rica ederim. Başbakan daha sakin olacak. > Ben başbakandan daha sakin olmasını rica ediyorum.   Ben is the subject of the main sentence. başbakandan is the indirect object of the main sentence. (kendisinin) daha sakin olmasını is the object of the main sentence. rica ediyorum is the predicate of the main sentence.   Is there a difference in meaning? The genitive subject sounds more logical to me. Maybe the ablative word in the latter example is not an inlayed subject at all but a part of the main clause and the inlayed subject is (the dropped down) sg 3rd instead?     Sorry guys, I think I answered it.    Bir sorum var. "Ben başbakandan daha sakin olmasını rica ediyorum" cümlesinde "(kendisinin) daha sakin olmasını" tümceciğinin öğelerini nasıl gösteririz. Örneğin kendisinin gizli özne, daha zarf, sakin olmasını yüklem midir? Feyza Hepçilingirlerin buna benzer çözümlemer yaptığını biliyorum. Benim ki doğru mu? Edited (12/11/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/11/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/11/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/11/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/11/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/11/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/11/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/11/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/11/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/11/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/11/2011) by gokuyum

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3447.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Dec 2011 Sun 08:35 pm   Quoting scalpel     I think the best way to translate a source text to a target language is to find out "how they would say it". The literal translation doesn´t often give the sense of the original.. We have different opinions. It is normal. We made our points. And now it is up to the learners how to deal with the matter.

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3448.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Dec 2011 Sun 07:44 pm And why do you blame me about what the original sentence mean? I am not the one who wrote it.    And by the way we can never be sure if she hit her car that tree. Because maybe her brother was driving the car. Edited (12/11/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/11/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/11/2011) by gokuyum

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3449.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Dec 2011 Sun 07:41 pm   Quoting scalpel     If she forgot to pull the handbrake up and gear in N position before leaving the car, and the car rolled down and hit the tree, your version is correct..but if the car hit the tree while she was behind the steering wheel, mine is correct.  You interpret the sentence. Of course your translation is more meaningful but it can also mislead people. Sometimes you should translate things literally or you should mention that you are following another way. Because your version and the original version are gramatically completely different.

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3450.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Dec 2011 Sun 05:27 pm   Quoting Abla My style? Did you say my style? Oh, gokuyum, you got so many credits now.   Of course you have a style. Everybody has it.

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3451.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Dec 2011 Sun 05:26 pm   Quoting nifrtity Beni Unutma song by Emre Aydin   Bugün dağıldım, bugün yoktum. Ömrüm dedim, kat izlerin hep. Ömrüm, ömrüm yokluğun.   Today I was scattered, today I was absent I said my life, your floor traces. My life, my life is your absence.   Bugün siyahtım, bugün bıktım Ömrüm dedim kül izlerin hep. Ömrüm, baş ucunda unuttun.   I was black today, I was sicken today I said my life, it is all your ash traces My life, you forgot it on your bedside. Yoksun, yoksun yanımda. Geçecek demiştin ya, Geçmedi duruyor hala.   You are absent, you are not near me. You said that it would pass It didn´t, it still remains  Yoksun, yoksun yanımda. Bu puslu kalanlarda, Yoksun yanımda. Unutma, Beni Unutma.   You are absent, you are not near me. In this hazy leftovers. You are not near me. Don´t forget, don´t forget me.   Bugün pustum, Bugün korktum. Ömrüm dedin son sözlerin hep Ömrüm, ömrüm yokluğun.   I crouched down today, I was scared today. I said my life, it is all your words. My life, my life is your absence. Bugün üveydim, bugün kıştım. Ömrüm dedim sen istedin hep, Ömrüm, sen vuruldun.   I was adopted today, I was winter today. I said my life, you wanted always. My life, you were hit. Yoksun, yoksun yanımda. Geçecek demiştin ya, Geçmedi duruyor hala.   You are absent, you are not near me. You said that it would pass It didn´t, it still remains. Yoksun, yoksun yanımda. Bu puslu kalanlarda, Yoksun yanımda. Unutma, Beni Unutma   You are absent, you are not near me. In this hazy leftovers. You are not near me. Don´t forget, don´t forget me.     harp00n and nifrtity liked this message

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3452.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Dec 2011 Sun 04:55 pm   Quoting Abla Another one...I must have done something right. Thank you, scalpel. I understand gokuyum was more merciful with my bad style. And often in Turkish, that´s what I have noticed, better means shorter, more simple. If the English and Turkish sentences are as long there is something wrong with the translation. I can only imagine how my "labyrinths" sound. What´s wrong with hiç? Its basic meaning is ´never´. Your style is not bad. There are many ways to express something. For example you can say hiçbir zaman, other can say asla. Not everybody speak Turkish in same way. I respected your style and didn´t touch it.   Edited (12/11/2011) by gokuyum

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3453.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Dec 2011 Sun 04:42 pm   I have some small objections to scalpel about touching the style of the text but they are not important. I want to discuss this sentence which I spent some time while translating.     This is (the girl whose car my sister saw hit that tree last week).  Bu, kız kardeşımın, arabasını geçen hafta o ağaca çarptığını gördüğü kız.     I think if we translate this sentence as scalpel translated it means: This is the girl who my sister saw hit her car that tree last week.   But in the text it doesn´t say she hit her car. It says her car hit that tree. There is a difference. I thought about this a lot and decided to translate like that: arabasının geçen hafta o ağaca çarptığını gördüğü kız   I wonder what tunci and si think about this? Edited (12/11/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/11/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/11/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/11/2011) by gokuyum

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3454.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Dec 2011 Sat 09:55 pm   Quoting mean Seni Seviyorum Diyen Kac Kişiyiz BEĞEN Butonu çöksün How many people are we who say "I love you"? Let the like button collapse.   Edited (12/10/2011) by gokuyum mean liked this message

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3455.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Dec 2011 Sat 09:52 pm   Quoting Abla Thank you, gokuyum. There was not so much work this time, was there? Quite happy here.   This was quite good. Your Turkish is really brilliant.

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3456.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Dec 2011 Sat 09:45 pm Umarım yeni hatıralar bizi beklemiyordur.

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3457.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Dec 2011 Sat 09:29 pm   Quoting Abla 1. This is the teacher who told me my son has been misbehaving in class. Bu, erkek çocuğumun sınıfta yaramazlık ettiğini bana anlatmış olan öğretmendir. 2. My friend, whom I love, sent me flowers at work last night. Sevdiğim dostum dün gece bana iş yerine çiçekler gönderdi. 3. This is the girl whose car my sister saw hit that tree last week. Bu, kız kardeşımın arabasının geçen hafta o ağaca çarptığını gördüğü kız. 4. Those were the boxes which were sent to you last month but never made it here. Onlar, sana geçen ay gönderilip de hiç buraya varmamış olan kutular idi. 5. Whom shall I fear but the ones who hurt me? Beni inciten birilerinden yoksa başka kimlerden korkacağım? 6. I asked you which of these shoes you think would go with my outfit. Sana bu ayakkabılardan hangisinin sence kıyafetime uygun olduğunu sordum. 7. I have friends who love me so much that they threw a surprise birthday party for me last night. Beni o kadar çok seven arkadaşlarım var ki benim için dün gece doğum günü partisini yaptılar. 8. That young man, to whom we owe many thanks, saved our mom´s life after the car accident. Çok teşekkürler borçlu olduğumuz o delikanlı araba kazasından sonra annemizin canını kurtardı. 9. A veiled woman whose eyes only I saw was standing in the bus stop. Yalnız gözlerini görebildiğim peçeli bir kadın otobüs durağında ayakta duruyordu. 10. In 1998 I travelled to Paris where I met my husband. Kocam ile karşılaştığım tanıştığım Paris’e 1998’de yolculuk ettim. 11. Marie Curie, who was born in Poland in 1867, was a scientist. 1867’de Polonya’da doğan Marie Curie bir bilim kadını idi. 12. Karen, whose surname is Johnson, is a beautiful model. Soyadı Johnson olan Karen güzel bir modeldir.  13. Van Gogh was a painter whose paintings are known worldwide. Van Gogh resimleri bütün dünyada tanınan bir ressam idi. 14. Radium is a metal which shines in the dark. Radyum karanlıkta parlayan bir madendir. 15. That is the girl whose brother is a famous footballer. Bu erkek kardeşi ünlü bir futbolcu olan kızdır. 16. The Coliseum was an amphitheatre where Romans enjoyed plays, chariot races and gladiator fights many centuries ago. Kolezyum, Romalıların çok yüzyıllar önce piyes, savaş arabası yarışı ve gladiatör kavgalarından zevk aldıkları bir amphitheater amfitiyatro idi. 17. Never get involved with a man whose wife has been murdered. Hiçbir zaman karısı öldürülmüş olan bir erkek ile içli dışlı olma. 18. Watch out for men whose eyes rove while they are talking to you. Seninle konuşuyorken gözleri avare dolaşan erkeklere dikkat et. 19. Death is like a journey to a land from which there is no return. Ölüm dönüşü olmayan bir ülkeye yolculuk gibi.     Edited (12/10/2011) by gokuyum

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3458.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Dec 2011 Sat 09:46 pm Here is a very succesful woman player. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr_ECxB6QxI&feature=related

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3459.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Dec 2011 Sat 09:43 pm   Quoting Elisabeth I have kids so we play a lot with the Wii.  The kiddos love the sports and dance games because they get to move around.     I have never played with Wii. But I appreciate the console´s new approach to the games. I only play PC games.

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3460.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Dec 2011 Sat 09:27 pm   Quoting Daydreamer I´m a HOG (hidden object games) maniac, but there has to be a big part with adventure point-and-click thing as well. Also, I´m addicted to Jewel Quest match3 games. Strangely enough other match3 games do not do it for me, it has to be JQ   Very interesting.I also became a climbing addict after I had played Assasins Creed game series.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voz6Xwwhezc Edited (12/3/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/3/2011) by gokuyum

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3461.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Dec 2011 Sat 09:07 pm Duymazlıktan geldi. You can also come across another version of it which is gramaticaly incorrect but common. Duy-ma-maz-lıktan geldi. (Double negativity)   I guess you want to create a list. Here are more examples. I guess they are not too many. 1)Bilmezlikten gelmek 2)Görmezlikten gelmek 3)Anlamazlıktan gelmek 4)İşitmezlikten gelmek   Edited (12/3/2011) by gokuyum Abla liked this message

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3462.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Dec 2011 Sat 03:40 pm "dır" and "den/dan beri" gives a continuity meaning and you can use it with past continous tense also. Bir yıldır orada çalışıyordu.  Henry liked this message

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3463.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Dec 2011 Sat 03:29 pm   Quoting Abla Thank you for the post, Henry. I find tenses one of the most difficult things in Turkish to learn. When I am corrected I just accept it and shake my head. It´s difficult to get to the heart of the problem if you understand what I mean. But I have learned something, too. What I learned shows in your examples: what is called perfect tense in English is actually present in the Turkish system: Bir yıldır Türkçe öğreniyorum. Actually it makes sense as the action takes place as well in the present moment as it did in the past.   "dır" means "for" here and "dan/den beri" means since. You should use them. You can use "dan/den beri" instead of "dır" but you cant do the opposite. Edited (12/3/2011) by gokuyum Henry liked this message

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3464.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Dec 2011 Sat 02:59 pm The main thing to know here is you can not make a subject definite with adding ı/i/u/ü. If you add this sufix subject will either transform to an object or it will need another noun and the suffix will function  as it is a possesive suffix or it will not mean anything. Edited (12/3/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/3/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/3/2011) by gokuyum Henry liked this message

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3465.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Dec 2011 Sat 02:52 pm   Quoting Henry   Do you agree?    Henry you cant make a word definite always with adding ı/i/u/ü suffix. Because verb also must allow the suffix.   Arabayı kim sürüyor? Who drives the car? (Here it is okay) Yolculuğu ne kadar? This is wrong because u here can only be a possesive suffix. You need another noun here. İstanbul yolculuğu ne kadar? How much is the İstanbul trip? Yolculuğu yaptın mı? Did you do the trip? You see here it is definite because verb also allows it to be definite.   Edited (12/3/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/3/2011) by gokuyum Henry liked this message

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3466.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Dec 2011 Fri 07:35 am   Quoting nifrtity 1 Hello. My name is ... I´m 15 and I come from Munich. Merhaba, Benim adım – - – - - ben 15 yaşındayım ,Ben Münihden geliyorum. 2 I booked a room two weeks ago. Iki haftada önce ,ben bir oda ayrılmışım ayırtmıştım. 3   I need a single room. Tek kişilik oda sı istiyorum   4 There must be a bath, telephone and TV in the room. Odayada OdadaTelefone  telefon ve televizyon ,oraya banyo lazım olmalı   5 When do you serve breakfast? Ne zaman Kahvalta kahvaltı servisi yapıyorsun? 6 How much is the room per day? Odasıa ne kadar her bir günde Odanın günlüğü ne kadar? 7 My room is on the second floor. Odayımda Odam ikinci katta 8 Can I have the bill, please? Lütfen faturayı alabilir miyim?   9 Can I have a room again next month? Gelecek ay haftada yine odaya sahip olabilir miyim?   10 I need the room from May the first to May the third İlk Mayısdan ve üçüncü Mayısda ,Ben odası isteciğim Mayısın birinden üçüne kadar odaya ihtiyacım var.     Edited (12/2/2011) by gokuyum

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3467.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Dec 2011 Thu 08:28 pm   Quoting si++ Video games are not my thing.   I prefer online blitz chess or hearts when I have some time. And solving sudoku puzzles (if it can be considered "playing") and "backgammon" when I am not sitting before a computer.   Also used to play "King" online (http://king.tr.net/) but that was long time ago. I know only one game. It is traditional Turkish dama. And I dont know if I can play it online. Instead of solving puzzles I prefer reading books. Reading them really relaxes me and I feel like I am in Nirvana. But after reading a lot it loses its effect and then I prefer playing a video game to find the peace in my mind again.

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3468.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Dec 2011 Thu 08:23 pm   Quoting Abla I hate to cause a disappointment but I never play anything. I don´t have that room in my brain. But I often imagine things and write fiction. I guess it is my way of playing. Ok, I admit, occasionally I can take a couple of rounds of Tetris or Pipe Dream. If it is even called playing. It seems like we have something common. We like imagining things. That is why I like video games a lot. They take me away to new worlds. I also like reading fiction books a lot because of this.

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3469.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Dec 2011 Thu 05:22 pm I like playing video games. It is a good way to relax. I dont like to deal with long and difficult games because they make me stressed. But because of my curiosity I play them anyway. When I have money I buy games from steam but when I don´t, I think you guess what I do This month I finished these games: 1)Deus Ex Human Revolution and its dlc The Missing Link 2)Assasins Creed Brotherhood 3)Batman Arkham Asylum 4)Amnesia: Dark Descent   I am also planning to play Assasins Creed Revolutions and Batman Arkham City this month. I wonder what you are playing.   Edited (12/1/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/1/2011) by gokuyum Edited (12/1/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: Con man claiming to be Prophet´s descendant captured

3470.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Nov 2011 Tue 07:17 pm   Note : Unfortunately , there are still some people who are so naive to believe in such conmen, cheaters.. The people who lacks a proper religious education will always fall into a trap like this. If believers just read Quran by understanding it´s messages they would never fall into traps like this. May God guide those people into more reading instead of hearing things. No need for Satan as long as such con men exist.   Edited (11/29/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: tr to en please

3471.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Nov 2011 Tue 07:06 pm   Quoting Abla I didn´t say this in order to hurt you. I said if you will be happy this way. Maybe I am not doing the right thing to dont deserve you either but certainly I will not leave give up on you. I will not leave give up on you, don´t forget this.     Edited (11/29/2011) by gokuyum Edited (11/29/2011) by gokuyum Edited (11/29/2011) by gokuyum Lady_A liked this message

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

3472.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Nov 2011 Thu 11:14 am   Quoting Abla Thank you so much, gokuyum. Expressing past certainty seems to be today´s lesson for me. A couple of more remarks if you don´t mind: 1. Hep “Ağzı Ağız açık ken yemek yenmemeli”: In the English translation there was talk about ´one´s mouth´, ´one´s elbows´. It´s good to know impersonal passive in Turkish works in this kind of instructions which are given to people in general, but it seems that in this case you cannot use 3rd person possessive suffix to refer to this general person, isn´t it? 2. Herhangi birimiz olabilir: Queueing pronouns like this was something new to me but while making the translation I already doubted that the whole meaning was not in birimiz. Interesting. 3. Isn´t there any way in Turkish to express ´by six o´clock´, ´any time before six o´clock but not later´? I thought about saat altıya kadar but it didn´t sound right.   1) You can also use third person possesive if you want.  EX: One should not eat something with his mouth open. Kimse ağzı açık yemek yememeli. 3)By six o´clock. 6´ya kadar. It is correct.

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

3473.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Nov 2011 Thu 09:54 am   Quoting Abla I guess I can´t get further with these on my own:   1. Frank´s wallet is lying on the coffee table. He must have left it here last night. Frank’in cüzdanı kahve masasında yatıyor. Dün gece onu burada bırakmış olmalı ydı. 2. Mrs. Scarlett´s body was found in the lounge just moments ago, and it´s still warm! Nobody has left the mansion this evening, so the killer must be someone in this room. It may be any one of us. Bayan Scarlett’in cesedi sadece birkaç an dakika önce bulundu, daha ılıktır hala sıcak. Hiç kimse bu gece konaktan ayrılmadı, o yüzden katil bu odadaki biri olmalı. Herhangi birimiz olabilir. 3. Ted´s flight from Amsterdam took more than 11 hours. He must be exhausted after such a long flight. He should prefer to stay in tonight and get some rest. Ted’in Amsterdam’dan uçuşu 11 saatten daha fazla sürdü. O kadar uzun uçuştan sonra çok yorgun olmalı. Bu gece içinde kalıp biraz dinlense ona iyi olur. 4. My uncle’s car broke down last weekend and he had to have it towed more than fifty kilometres. It must have cost a fortune. Amcamin arabası geçen haftasonu kırmış bozulmuş ve onu 50 kilometreden daha fazla onu çektirmek zorunda kalmış. Bir servete mal olmuş olmalı ydı. 5. When I was a child my grandmother was continually correcting our manners. She always used to say, "One must not eat with one’s mouth open.” Or she would correct us by saying “One shouldn’t rest one’s elbows on the table. And every time I wanted to leave the table, she would say: “One must ask to be excused.” Ben çocukken büyükannem sürekli bir şekilde tavırlarımızı düzeltiyordu. Hep “Ağzı Ağız açık ken yemek yenmemeli” derdi. Ya da “Dirsekleri  Dirseklerle masadan destek alınmamalı” diye bizi doğrulttu düzeltirdi. Ve her zaman ben masadan ayrılmak isterken “İzin verilmeli istenmeli” derdi. 6. I´ve redone this math problem at least twenty times, but my answer is wrong according to the answer key. The answer in the book must be wrong. Bu matematik sorununu en az yırmı kez yeniden çözdüm, ama cevabım cetvele  cevap anahtarına göre yanlış(tır). Kitaptaki cevap yanlış olmalı(dır). 7. The television isn´t working. It must have damaged during the move. Televizyon çalışmıyor. Taşınma boyunca sırasında zarar vermiş görmüş olmalı ydi. 8. You must be kidding! That can´t be true. Elbette Dalga geçiyorsun geçiyor olmalısın. Bu gerçek olamıyor olamaz. 9. Firefighters must be able to climb high ladders, swim 400 metres in less than 12 minutes and carry heavy equipment. İtfaiyeciler, yüksek merdivenlere tırmanıp 400 metreyi 12’den daha az dakikada yüzüp ağır bir donatım taşıyabilmeliler. 10. Do you always have to say the first thing that pops into your head. Couldn’t you think once in a while before you speak? Başına Aklına gelen birinci ilk şeyi hep söylemeli misin? Konuşmadan önce arada bir düşünebilir düşünemez misin? 11. Terry and Frank said they would come over right after work. They should be here by 6:00. Terry ile Frank hemen işten sonra geleceklerini söylediler. Burada Saat altıda burada olmalılar. 12. Israel may be forced to attack Iran’s nuclear facilities. İsrail İran nükleer tesislerine saldırmak mecburiyetinde kalabilir.   Let me touch on a few things:   1)It must have been damaged during the move.  If you translate this like that "Taşınma sırasında zarar görmüş olmalıydı" It means "It had to be damaged during the move." This is wrong. You shouldn´t make "olmalı" past here. Don´t worry with adding "müş" to "görmek" you have already given a past meaning to predicate.   2)Generally we don´t use dır at the end of the predicates. It is not wrong but sometimes unnecessary. "dır" also can give predicate a meaning that you guess or hope it. Generally we use dır when we define something or talking about scientific facts, etc..   3) The answer key must be wrong. There is a guess here and when we translate it like that "Cevap anahtarı yanlış olmalı". We also give that guess meaning with -malı suffix. There is no need to add -dır after it. Edited (11/24/2011) by gokuyum Edited (11/24/2011) by gokuyum Edited (11/24/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: everything is ok

3474.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Nov 2011 Thu 09:01 am   Quoting elenagabriela selam arkadaşlar can I say herşey yolundadır = everything is ok   teşekkür ederim Most of the time we don´t use "dır" at the end of the predicate. "dır" can also give such a meaning that you guess something. So if you don´t guess, there is no need to use "dır". But if you use it, it is not wrong but unnecessary here. So "Herşey yolunda" is better.   Edited (11/24/2011) by gokuyum caliptrix, hedef and elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: everything is ok

3475.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Nov 2011 Thu 08:51 am   Quoting elenagabriela selam arkadaşlar can I say herşey yolundadır = everything is ok   teşekkür ederim Yes you can. It means literally "Everything is on its own way."   Edited (11/24/2011) by gokuyum Edited (11/24/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: NEW BABY BOY CONGRATULATIONS

3476.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Nov 2011 Thu 08:28 am   Quoting Rasadnik Tesekkur ederim harpoon.The only meaning that escapes me is damatlığını. What is the meaning?   Allah damatlığını görmeyi nasip etsin. May Allah grant you to see the day that he becomes a groom. Rasadnik liked this message

Thread: Double Passive

3477.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Nov 2011 Mon 01:18 am   Quoting Abla The pleasure is all mine. Reflexive + passive certainly has its function in language as your examples show, scalpel. But still it doesn´t erase the fact that there is always a chance for analogy also. We can say it is even probable that these forms spread wider than they were actually ment for by means of analogy, just like gokuyum said earlier. Because for an average language user it is a choice between models: real models and invented models, understood and misunderstood models... Wow, this turned out a nice thread eventually (even though at some point I thought I messed it).   Thank you Abla for supporting my idea. I think analogy is the main reason of this situation. Some people subconsciously think there is only one way to do passive and they use "n" as a buffer letter. I also want to thank scalpel too. Once upon a time he recommended me Feyza Hepçilingirler´s Turkish grammar book and I liked the book a lot and started to understand Turkish grammar better and think about it.  Edited (11/14/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: Double Passive

3478.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Nov 2011 Fri 09:56 pm   Quoting si++     It´s just that some natives do not find it enough or even do not recognise the passive meaning and add another passive suffix.   Grammatically correct way: de-n-mek is the passive of de-mek söyle-n-mek is the passive of söyle-mek etc.   I have an explanation for this situation. Most of the time we make a verb passive adding (i)l suffix. Ex: git - il - di. So I think some people subconsciously think only (i)l suffix make verbs passive and they think "n" as a buffer letter. So they add (i)l after n. So Abla you see even the irregularities in Turkish have a logic.  Edited (11/11/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: english to turkish

3479.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Nov 2011 Fri 09:32 pm   Quoting Abla Eve geldiğine kadar bekleyemeyeceğim. My Try.   This sounds weird. "Sen eve gelene kadar bekleyemeyeceğim" sounds better. Edited (11/11/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: need to get it right

3480.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Nov 2011 Wed 09:42 am   Quoting scalpel Deli´s score is not high when compared to tunci´s! She posted 5345 posts in a period of seven years and tunci 2444 in a period of eleven months or so..this means tunci will make it (inşallah) 17200 in 2017 and it will be at least 3 times more than deli´s, and we will be right if we think tunci spends at least half of his life infront of the screen of his tired laptop    a note for deli: You are the gem of this forum and I love you      After Tunci had come, I requested my retirement from Turkish Class. I thought I was fast but then I realised it was a turtle´s speed when it was compared with Tunci´s. Now I do this translating thing as a hobby Edited (11/9/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: E to T

3481.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Nov 2011 Wed 07:51 am   Quoting tunci      Cüzdanını kaybettin mi ?   Personal endings can change according to tense. They are not same all the time.

Thread: E>>>T ...

3482.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Nov 2011 Wed 07:42 am   Quoting Prashantsharma Hmm..Thankyou Tomac for correction..is it final & right translation of it??   Yes. I want to say again that I am a fan of Tomac.  Edited (11/9/2011) by gokuyum Prashantsharma liked this message

Thread: t to e short one pls!

3483.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Nov 2011 Wed 07:32 am     Quoting Faruk   bizim segimizde tezavrat olmaz - bizim sevgimizde tez avrat olmaz - at our love there isn´t quick woman Tez avrat seems creative but I think it is tezahurat

Thread: need to get it right

3484.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Nov 2011 Wed 07:28 am   Quoting deli    Seven years learning seemed rather a long time to not be able to put a few words together or trust her level of turkish     Do you think I have been sitting in front of this damn screen for seven years, I do have a life you know     There is no need to argue more. Everybody made his/her point. There is only one fact. Learning a language is not easy and it can take some time. This shouldn´t make you scare. After all these years sometimes I feel my English really sucks. And while I am translating texts I look at dictionary many times. Everybody should keep going on. We are here to help you.

Thread: not sure

3485.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Nov 2011 Sat 01:03 pm daha çok benim gibi sorumlular iptal You wrote something like this "mainly responsible people like me are cancelled" I dont know what this means.  Edited (11/5/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: not sure

3486.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Nov 2011 Sat 11:59 am   Quoting deli daha çok beni gibi sorumlular iptal   more like me with cancellation problems????   daha çok benim gibi iptal problemleriyle?

Thread: Turkish Verbs practice

3487.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Nov 2011 Fri 12:18 pm   Quoting si++     Why is it an ".exe" file? How can we know that it doesn´t contain any virus?   exectly.

Thread: Turkish Verbs practice

3488.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Nov 2011 Fri 12:18 pm , Edited (11/4/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: TR-ENG

3489.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Nov 2011 Fri 12:11 pm İnşallah you have a very good memory . You still remember Turkish very well. insallah liked this message

Thread: E - T Please

3490.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Nov 2011 Fri 12:06 pm   Quoting tunci      " Eğer kaba göründüysem lütfen kusuruma bakma ama ben sadece Türkçe öğrenmek için buradayım, erkek arkadaşı bulmak için değil."     Why not? I am just kidding Edited (11/4/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: t to e lütfen

3491.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Nov 2011 Fri 12:05 pm   Quoting scalpel     In fact, it´s me who should say sorry.. Had I known you were here and working on it I would have left it for you.. In my opinion, translations should be done by the learners and, if necessary, corrections by those who they think they are experts in both English and Turkish That is my principle too scalpel.

Thread: E to T

3492.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Nov 2011 Fri 12:01 pm   Quoting yaseminler Edebilirseniz bize katılın, lütfen. My try... hmm understandable but weird. "Mümkünse bize katılın lütfen" sounds better.   yaseminler liked this message

Thread: Turkish Web Speak - voyn

3493.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Nov 2011 Fri 11:59 am There is no such a Turkish word as voyn. It must be something different.

Thread: E-T ... Deeply personal e-mail

3494.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Nov 2011 Wed 09:09 am You are welcome. CihangirKiz liked this message

Thread: E-T ... Deeply personal e-mail

3495.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Nov 2011 Wed 06:55 am You must know that you changed my life, Ibrahim. I was very lost before I met you and knew nothing about love or God. You know this, I don´t have to explain to you. The biggest thing that I am forever thankful to you is that you brought Islam and Allah (Celle Celalühu) into my life. Hayatımı değiştirdiğini bilmelisin İbrahim. Senle tanışmdan önce kaybolmuştum ve aşk ve Allah hakkında hiçbir şey bilmiyordum. Bunu biliyorsun, açıklamama gerek yok. Sana sonsuza kadar minnattar olduğum en büyük şey hayatıma İslamı ve Allah´ı (Celle Celaluhu) getirmendir. Finally, I am very worried about the package I sent you. It is now in Turkey, but I do not know where. Maybe you can call Turkish customs and find out where it is.  The phone number is 0212 565 1400 and more numbers are on the website - http://www.ptt.gov.tr/ Sonunda, sana gönderdiğim paket hakkında çok endişeliyim. Şu an Türkiye´de ama nerede bilmiyorum. Belki gümrüğü arayıp nerede olduğunu öğrenebilirsin. Telefon numarası 0212 565 1400 ve internet sitesinde daha birçok telefon numarası var. http://www.ptt.gov.tr/ Here is the information: SHIPPING COMPANY: xxxx SENDER: xxxx TRACKING NUMBER: xxxx İşte bilgiler: Nakliyat Şirketi: xxx Gönderen: xxx Takip Numarası: xxx It is a $200 package, dear. I am very angry and maybe "dush dush" all postal workers at the post office if it is not delivered. Please let me know if you find any information. 200 dolarlık bir paket bu sevgilim. Çok sinirliyim, eğer teslim edilmediyse belki de tüm posta çalışanlarına " daş daş" (yumruk ve tekme sesleri) Eğer herhangi bir bilgi edinebilirsen lütfen beni haberdar et. I miss you very much, and I would love to see you on Skype soon. Let me know when it is possible, and I will be there. Seni çok özlüyorum yakında seni Skype´de görmeyi çok isterim. uygun olduğunda bana haber ver ve orada olacağım Selam ve dua ile. İnna lillah veinna ileyhi raciun.     Edited (11/2/2011) by gokuyum Edited (11/2/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: E-T ... Deeply personal e-mail

3496.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Nov 2011 Wed 06:44 am I also wanted to confess something to you. One day in Cihangir, you asked me how old I was the first time I had sex. I told you I was 18 years old, but this was a lie. I didn´t have sex for the first time until I was 23.. Please don´t be angry with me. I don´t like telling people (especially American people) because they think it is strange and abnormal.  Ayrıca sana bir şeyi itiraf etmek istiyorum. Bir gün Cihangirde ilk kez sex yaptığımda kaç yaşında olduğumu sormuştun. Ben de 18 demiştim ama bu bir yalandı. Ben 23 yaşıma kadar kimseyle sex yapmadım. Lütfen bana kızma. İnsanlara bunu anlatmayı (özellikle Amerikalılara) sevmiyorum çünkü bunun garip ve anormal olduğunu düşünüyorlar. I am sorry I did not tell you the truth, I was afraid to have sex for a long time. I think this is is why I miss you so much. You are the first person I felt truly intimate with. I don´t know how or why I fell so hard in love with you, but I don´t regret it, even if it breaks my heart when you tell me we will never have a real relationship.  Don´t worry, I understand why you say this. "This is Turkey" and I know there is a lot of social pressure with your family. I only wish things were different. There is a hole in my heart now that we are apart and I must try to figure out how to mend it. Gerçeği anlatmadığım için üzgünüm. Uzun bir zaman sex yapmaktan kokrtum. Seni sanırım bu yüzden çok özlüyorum. Kendimi gerçekten bu kadar yakın hissettiğim ilk kişisin. Nasıl ve niçin sana bu kadar aşık oldum bilmiyorum ama bana hiçbir zaman gerçek bir ilişkimiz olmayacak dediğinde kalbim kırılsa da asla pişman değilim. üzülme bunu niçin söylediğini biliyorum. "Burası Türkiye" ailenle ilgili birçok sosyal baskı var. Sadece bazı şeylerin farklı olmasını dilerdim. Şu anda ayrı olduğumuz için kalbimde bir boşluk var ve bunu tamir etmeye çalışmalıyım.

Thread: E-T ... Deeply personal e-mail

3497.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Nov 2011 Wed 06:30 am I think about you every single day, my love. I live with the memories we created together. Mostly, I think about you at night. I think about sleeping in your arms, and sometimes you would sing "Allah hu ekber Ash-hadu an la ilaha ill-Allah." Do you remember? I think about the way your beard felt scratchy against my cheeks, forehead, and ears, when you kissed me, right before you would tell me "Seni istiyorum".  I remember my heart racing when I knew you were at my door, and rushing down to let you into my apartment at night.  I remember being so nervous that you wouldn´t like my cooking. I remember you whispering"Cok seviyorum seni" over and over while you made love to me. Seni her gün düşünüyorum aşkım. Birlikte yarattığımız anılarla yaşıyorum. Genelde geceleri seni düşünüyorum. Kollarında uyuduğumu ve bazen senin "Allah hu ekber Ash-hadu an la ilaha ill-Allah" demeni düşünüyorum. Hatırlıyor musun? Sakallarının yanaklarımı, alnımı, kulaklarımı nasıl kaşındırdığını, beni öptüğünü ve hemen önce seni istiyorum demeni düşünüyorum. Kapımda olduğunu bildiğimde kalbimin hızla attığını ve seni gece daireme almak için nasıl acele ettiğimi hatırlıyorum. Pişirdiklerimi beğenmezsen diye endişelendiğimi hatırlıyorum. Benimle sevişirken "Çok seviyorum seni" diye tekrar tekrar fısıldayışını hatırlıyorum.

Thread: E-T ... Deeply personal e-mail

3498.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Nov 2011 Wed 06:15 am Now I am back in Chicago and I am studying for one of two examss I must take before I can get my license as a lawyer. The test is called the MPRE.  It is a test about the law governing the conduct of lawyers and the disciplinary rules of professional conduct.  After I take this test, I must take one more exam and I will be a lawyer! Şimdi Chicago´ dayım ve ve avukatlık lisansı alabilmek için geçmem gereken iki sınava hazırlanıyorum. Testin adı MPRE. O avukatların davranışlarını ve profesyonel davranışların disiplin kurallarını idare eden kanun hakkında bir test. Bu sınavı aldıktan sonra bir sınav daha almalıyım ve sonra bir avukat olacağım. Also, guess what? Sarah left Chicago moved to New York City and is living in an apartment with her boyfriend. I miss her so much. dear. I love Sarah so much and it will be strange not having my best friend around, but I will visit her soon insallah. Ayrıca tahmin et ne oldu? Sarah, Chicago´dan ayrılıp, New York´a taşındı ve orada bir aparmanda erkek arkadaşı ile yaşıyor. Onu çok özlüyorum. Sarah´ı çok seviyorum ve en iyi arkadaşımın artık yanımda olmayacak olması çok garip, ama onu yakında inşallah ziyaret edeceğim. I also want to tell you that I am sorry for crying when we talk on the phone and on Skype. I realize it is a burden and I don´t want to make you uncomfortable. I hope you can understand and forgive me.   Ayrıca telefonda ve skype´de konuşurken ağladığım için üzgün olduğumu söylemek istiyorum. Bunun senin için bir yük olabileceğini fark ettim ve seni bunla rahatsız etmek istemiyorum. Umarım beni anlar ve affedersin.

Thread: E-T ... Deeply personal e-mail

3499.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Nov 2011 Wed 06:01 am I also found a Turkish grocery store and bought lachmacun, borek, kofte, simit, and tahini and pekmez. I spent all day cooking a big Turkish dinner for my family. They thought it was so delicious! You would have been so proud of me   Ayrıca bir Türk bakkal dükkanı buldum ve lahmacun, börek, köfte, simit, tahin ve pekmez aldım. Bütün günü ailem için büyük bir Türk sitili akşam yemeği hazırlamakla geçirdim. Yemeğin çok lezzetli olduğunu düşündüler. Görsen benimle gurur duyardın.

Thread: E-T ... Deeply personal e-mail

3500.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Nov 2011 Wed 05:56 am ****************************** Selamun Aleyküm my love, How are you?  I am sorry I have not been available. This weekend I flew to New York to visit my mother, father and brother, and also my old friends that I haven´t seen in a long time. I missed them very much, and seeing them helped me feel a little less lonely.  Nasılsın? Müsait olmadığım için özür dilerim. Bu hafta sonu New York´a annemi, babamı ve kardeşimi ve uzun zamandır görmediğim arkadaşlarımı ziyarete gittim. Onları çok özlemiştim ve onları görmek kendimi daha az yalnız hissetmeme yardım etti.

Thread: Arab wave sweeps Iran model out, Turkey ‘in’

3501.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Oct 2011 Sun 08:15 am I don´t believe democracy is as democratic as it seems anywhere.  There is difference between an image and reality.

Thread: E to T

3502.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Oct 2011 Fri 05:04 am   Quoting Inscrutable Türkiye ´de veya burada döğdü musun? Where you were born here or in Turkey. Thank You Nerede doğdun? Türkiye´de mi yoksa burada mı?   Edited (10/28/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: T to E pls. thank you very much

3503.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Oct 2011 Thu 09:27 am Canary symbolises Fenerbahçe here.

Thread: t-e please

3504.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Oct 2011 Thu 09:21 am   Quoting Henry   my attempt lan geçmişsine başlatma = buddy don´t allow it to pass you şimdi deli edeceksin = now you will get mad/crazy     Henry you misunderstood the text. But it is normal. This is a slang text. And words express different things then they seem. "geçmişine başlatma" means "I dont care about your past and if you continue to talk about it I will say bad things." The literal translation doesn´t have a meaning. Don´t make me start to your past. Maybe now you can find a better way to translate it than mine as a native.   deli edeceksin means you will make me crazy or mad. If it was deli olacaksın, your translation would be correct.

Thread: Gaddafi dies of wounds, NTC official says

3505.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Oct 2011 Sun 03:52 am   Quoting Abla You know, gokuyum, most people are not capable of criticizing the system their communities are based on. Actually very few are. The majority eats the cake just as it is served to them. But still I can´t imagine what kind of protest I should make to be arrested in my own country... If my protest would base on facts it would be welcomed. I can´t see your last message, vineyards. A pity.  -  I mean message number 8. Maybe your finger slipped. Maybe if you try harder you can find a way to be arrested. Because such a thing is highly possible when you criticise the system. Now i want to say a few things about Kaddafi. If you rule a country with fear ;no matter how much you give your people they will rebel. Because people starts getting paranoid in time. And that violence (which I also condemn) against Kaddafi is a result of social madness which Kaddafi caused in 40 years. After dictatorships in Arabic world, it seems theocratic governments will be voted. And violence will keep going on. Because the best way to justify violence is to use religion. And this time if they rise up again they will be blamed as infidels. Don´t think I blame Islam religion I blame extremist and opportunist approaches to Islam.   Edited (10/23/2011) by gokuyum

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3506.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Oct 2011 Sun 12:01 am   Quoting deli      love to the only person who dosent leave my mind even for one moment   my try great translation

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3507.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Oct 2011 Sat 11:57 pm   Quoting Abla I can´t deny there was a black period in time and many of the problems in today´s world are result of past mistakes. Maybe I see it from a different angle. I see where we were and where we are now. I see it as a succesfull process of learning. What I wanted to say is that yes, European governments can take criticism and there are many people in leading positions who know their history  -  even the worst of it  -  very well.   Yes you can criticise them about small matters. But you can´t criticise the system which they are founded on. If you do you will be arrested like the American protestors who protest Wall Street.

Thread: tr to en please

3508.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Oct 2011 Sat 11:45 pm   Quoting Lady_A Bilmiyorum ben daha calisiyorum 10 gun daha calisacagim sonra kusadasina gidecegim beni neler bekler bilmiyorun. Gelmek istersen haberlesiriz kasim ayinda. Thanks!   I don´t know. I still work. I will work 10 more days. Then I will go to Kuşadası. I don´t know what waits me. If you want to come we can contact in November.

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3509.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Oct 2011 Sat 11:24 pm   Quoting Abla Who exactly stops you from asking questions from western governments? Europe with all its faults and shortcomings is the success story of the century what comes to human rights and freedom of word. It´s simple but it´s easy to forget. There are some alarming processes these days in the mental climate but they still didn´t change this fact. Your precious western goverments really suck when it comes to racism and emperialism.

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3510.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Oct 2011 Fri 09:50 pm By the way O.Ç means "orospu çocuğu" son of a bitch

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3511.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Oct 2011 Fri 09:44 pm   Quoting CandyCanes I´ve searched the internet for translation, but there were none! http://sarki.alternatifim.com/data.asp?ID=121329&sarki=Pompalamasyon&sarkici=Diyar%20Pala&ok=1   These are the lyrics, I can get the basic stuff but not everything. Thanks! Song is slang and rude. If I had time I could translate it. But let me translate the title."Pompalamasyon" is not a real word and we can translate it as pumping. But in this song it means "to screw".

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3512.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Oct 2011 Fri 09:38 pm   Quoting Henry     My attempt "Which number did you find and select in the picture?" My sweety, is this number 4 which you want. If you want, I can also be a helper (I can assist you) for many biological ....... (pictures?) biologicaly       Henry liked this message

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3513.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Oct 2011 Fri 09:27 pm   Quoting MarioninTurkey     Amen. May God accept it (said after someone has done something nice, aimed to please God). May God be pleased, friends, none of us were aware of  ignored this situation at such a sad time as this. May our martyrs be in heaven, I also wish condolences to our marytr´s families. göz ardı etmek means "to ignore".

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3514.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Oct 2011 Fri 09:22 pm   Quoting MarioninTurkey     The flag is made from the blood of the martyrs ... not the blood of stinking carcasses. You have no flag, you are not a nation, you have no history. When your polluted blood leaks from your carcass, you will go to burn in hell with no one praying for you at all. They are idiots. You have put yourself into exile on the mountains of your homeland. You no longer have a homeland, and you have no place to rest your head (literally: to lie down). Flee like a dog, hide like a rat. You don´t have even a gram of heart, hunt with mines. Set a trap. You will dies. Or you will be like yourpuppet  leader who thinks he is a king in a cage, rotting and looking at walls. I hope you will be maimed. .. Why do I write this. There are 500 people on my Facebook. If one of them is o.ç. I think the same for themç My place and my home are clear. Come and tell me I am not O.C. If you have a heart, take up this challenge Great translation. But I must say this text is racist. Condeming PKK is one thing but cursing all Kurds is another thing.   Edited (10/21/2011) by gokuyum MarioninTurkey liked this message

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3515.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Oct 2011 Fri 09:20 pm   Quoting MarioninTurkey     The flag is made from the blood of the martyrs ... not the blood of stinking carcasses. You have no flag, you are not a nation, you have no history. When your polluted blood leaks from your carcass, you will go to burn in hell with no one praying for you at all. They are idiots. You have put yourself into exile on the mountains of your homeland. You no longer have a homeland, and you have no place to rest your head (literally: to lie down). Flee like a dog, hide like a rat. You don´t have even a gram of heart, hunt with mines. Set a trap. You will dies. Or you will be like yourpuppet  leader who thinks he is a king in a cage, rotting and looking at walls. I hope you will be maimed. .. Why do I write this. There are 500 people on my Facebook. If one of them is o.ç. I think the same for themç My place and my home are clear. Come and tell me I am not O.C. If you have a heart, take up this challenge Great translation.

Thread: E - T please help.....

3516.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Oct 2011 Fri 09:10 pm   Quoting Abla Of course. Thanks for the correction, tunci. I have a feeling there is a ki way to say this. Would you mind telling how to arrange the sentence with ki (wish to learn it)? If you want to use ki you have to change the sentence and add somethings. Burada ki öyle uzun külrengi soğuk bir  kış ın var ki  üstesinden seni görmeden nasıl gelebileceğimi kesinlikle bilmiyorum. Edited (10/21/2011) by gokuyum gharrison liked this message

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3517.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Oct 2011 Tue 04:45 pm   Quoting deli      my attempt at the last bit  If love was to run out when not seeing( each other),would they feel love like this for god who is not  seen throughout human existence  Great translation. If you want it to be more clear use "people" instead of they.   suzan ahmet liked this message

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3518.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Oct 2011 Tue 04:43 pm   Quoting Henry My attempt for the middle quote öyle zengin bir eş istiyorum ki cebinde beş parası olmasin yüreğinde allah korkusu ceyizin de de sadece kurani kerim olsun I want a partner who is rich like so - in their her pocket may they not have 5 bits of money, in their her heart they are  she is afraid of Allah, and in their her dowery let there be only the Koran.      suzan ahmet liked this message

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3519.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Oct 2011 Sun 08:50 pm   Quoting mean Kafam yerinde alaturka oldum oynamadan duraamam....     I am drunk. I became typically Turkish. I can´t hold myself. I must dance. Note: The translation is not literal. Edited (10/16/2011) by gokuyum

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3520.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Oct 2011 Sun 08:44 pm     Quoting etena Yüreğimdeki fırtına dinmedi hala- The storm from in my heart did not stop yet Titrerdim,isterdim seni hep kollarımda- I used to tremble trembled ( shivered), I used to want wanted you always in my arms Yine bana gel - Come to me again Yana yana yine ben sev..- To love me burning again Hadi beni yine sev - Come on, love me again Beni deli deli sev- Love me madly/ crazily Beni yine yine,yeni yeni,yine yeni yeniden sev..- Love me once again, recently, again from the begining Ben yandıkça bağrımda sönmez ateş- ...... from my affection/impediment our fire doesn´t go down As long as I burn, the fire in my chest will not go down. Gece yıldız tenimde,gündüz güneş..- The night´s star from my skin, our days sun    At night (a) star is on my skin, in the morning sun.   Can someone correct my translation, please? The last 3 sentences I am very sure I did not translate right....     Edited (10/16/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: Need help - one sentence - turkish->english

3521.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Oct 2011 Sun 08:34 pm   Quoting Daxx Hi, can I ask, what does "Hadi len karga" mean? Thanks. Hadi len is a slang expression and it means "don´t fool me" karga means crow     Edited (10/16/2011) by gokuyum

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3522.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Oct 2011 Sat 03:37 pm   Quoting Inscrutable Please keep in contact with the office. Thank You   Lütfen ofisle temasta kalın.

Thread: SIMPLE E TO T

3523.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Oct 2011 Fri 07:41 pm   Quoting Johnk thanks for quick reply but now i have 2 questions. If i just said "carsamba ingiltere´ye gidiyorum" would that still make sense? yes why is it ´ye and not ´de as i have seen elsewhere in a  language book? Because you go "to" England. "to"s equivelant in Turkish is "e/a". This is dative case. "de" s equivelant is "in/on/at" This is locative case. Note: It is (y)e because we need a buffer letter here and y is the buffer letter.       Edited (10/14/2011) by gokuyum

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3524.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Oct 2011 Fri 07:31 pm   Quoting etena Can someone, please, help me understand what they say at the beginning and at the end of this video?     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31ezajBSgEA&feature=share       At the very end he says: What is wrong with women do you know? They fall in love with the specialities that make you yourself and then they try to take them from you. Edited (10/14/2011) by gokuyum etena liked this message

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3525.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Oct 2011 Fri 07:09 pm   Quoting Lady_Metal I have thought several times about taking my life by going to get a bullet and shot it into my head before we got together if you want me to be very honest, but you have giving me piece of mind and happiness now, I hope you feel the same about me.I care about your wellness and happiness as much as you do for me and I know you didnt get what I said as if I was trying to play the victim since all I said was the truth about how I have lived here so far.   Biraraya gelmeden önce dürüst olmam gerekirse bir kurşun alıp kafama sıkmayı ve hayatımı sona erdirmeyi bir çok kez düşündüm. Ama sen bana huzur ve mutluluk veriyorsun. Umarım sen de benim için aynı şeyleri düşünüyorsundur. Senin iyiliğini ve mutluluğunu senin benimkini düşündüğün kadar çok düşünüyorum. Kurbanı oynuyormuşum gibi görünen ama şimdiye kadar nasıl yaşadığım gerçeğini anlatan söylediklerimi anlamadığını biliyorum.     Lady_Metal liked this message

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3526.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Oct 2011 Fri 06:59 pm  I cannot stand living without you, being apart and far away from you is out of question. I understand why we have to hide our relationship in this place and this is why I have not shared it with anyone from here. But if we end up getting married they will learn it but if you must know I am not afraid of what they might say and yes, it seems that people hate when others are happy since themselves are unhappy all the time.I will not forget you or stop loving you as long as I breath.I will come back for you and only you, you are the main reason I am standing every day in this place, you give me strenght to go on, Sensiz yaşamaya katlanamıyorum. Ayrı olmak, senden uzak olmak söz konusu bile olmaz. İlişkimizi bu yerde niçin saklamamız gerektiğini anlıyorum, bu yüzden bunu buradaki hiçkimseyle paylaşmadım. Ama eğer evlenirsek bunu öğrenecekler. Bilmeni isterim ki onların ne smyleyeceğinden korkmuyorum ve öyle görünüyor ki insanlar kendileri herzaman mutsuz olduğundan diğerlerinin mutlu olmasından nefret ediyorlar. Seni unutmayacağım ve nefes aldığım sürece seni sevmekten vazgeçmeyeceğim. Sadece ve sadece senin için geri döneceğim. Buraya katlanabilmemin ana sebebi sensin, bana devam etmek için güç veriyorsun.

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3527.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Oct 2011 Fri 06:49 pm   Quoting Lady_Metal .EVEN IN MY OWN COUNTRY I SEE THAT PEOPLE CANT UNDERSTAND ME AND THAT I CANT UNDERSTAND THEM EITHER,I FEEL I AM DIFFERENT FROM EVERYONE, INCLUDING MY OWN FAMILY. IT IS LIKE LIVING IN A PLACE WHERE I CAN SPEAK THE LANGUAGE BUT I DONT BELONG TO IT AT ALL, BEING THERE ANNOYED ME AND STILL HAVE TO LISTEN EVEN FROM MY GUESTS FROM MY OWN COUTRY THAT I HAVE A FOREING ACCENT AND EVEN DIFFERENT WAY TO BE.   Kendi ülkemde bile insanların beni anlayamadığını ve benim de onları anlayamadığımı görüyorum. Herkesten farklıyım, ailemden bile. Dilini konuşabildiğim ama ait olmadığım bir yerde yaşamak gibi bir şey bu. Burada olmak beni rahatsız etti ve hala ülkemdeki misafirlerimden bile yabancı bir aksanım olduğunu ve farklı bir yolda olduğumu dinlemek zorunda kalıyorum.     Edited (10/14/2011) by gokuyum Edited (10/14/2011) by gokuyum

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3528.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Oct 2011 Fri 06:43 pm   Quoting Lady_Metal It isnt a matter of not wanting to explain things to you, the point is that as I said previously, my turkish isnt enough to express and explain myself fully to you and when I try it sometimes it causes misunderstandings exactly because I still need work out to get my turkish better. I have asked friends who are not from here to help me translate these things I sent you exactly because I cannot do it on my own for now. Sorun sana bazı şeyleri açıklamak istememem değil; daha önce söylediğim gibi Türkçem kendimi sana yeterince ifade edebileceğim kadar iyi değil ve bazen bunu denediğimde yanlış anlaşılmalara yol açıyor. Bu yüzden Türkçemi geliştirmeye çalışmam lazım. Buradan olmayan arkadaşlarımdan sana gönderdiğim bu şeyleri çevirmede yardım istedim çünkü bunu kendi başıma yapamıyorum.

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3529.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Oct 2011 Fri 06:37 pm   Quoting Johnk I am wanting to say   on wednesday i am going to england.   is this correct....carsamba gunu ingiltere´ye gidiyorum

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3530.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Oct 2011 Sat 01:13 pm   Quoting tunci   We dont have to do literal translation, Eklemeyiz mal o kadar da değil ---> you stupid , of course I wouldnt add [that person] , I cant be that fool.. 1. Eklemeyiz --> Literally = We wouldnt add or we wont add . But  many times when we refer 1.person [I] we use "we" in conversations. the story is , that person probably in facebook or msn , says " I would not [have] add him/her into [ her friend list..etc], He says he is not that fool [to do that] [ I wouldnt go that far [adding him/her] [ there is no way I would do that] - you stupid, how can you think that I would add that person into [fb or friend list ..etc. " - Dont be stupid, would I add him/her , how can you think I would add ?   thats where I got "I wouldnt " from.     I agree tunci. It is sometimes very difficult to translate a text literally. As you see my translation was not also literal. I just wanted to explain things a little bit detailed.

Thread: Very Short Turkish to English Translation

3531.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Oct 2011 Sat 12:27 pm   Quoting Adam25     calling someone a ´write off´ sounds pretty negative to me!   Gokuyum - should ´o pert oldu´ be o dert oldu´ - was it a typing mistake? pert olmak is slang it means to become a write off. But dert olmak means to become a trouble. of course calling someone a write off is a negative thing but I wanted to say we do not call her so because of her personality.

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3532.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Oct 2011 Sat 12:22 pm   Quoting Adam25     Thank you - but after your explanation and looking at your translation again , shouldn´t it be ´We won´t add, we are not that stupid´?  Nope. Because we are addressing someone as stupid not ourselves.

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3533.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Oct 2011 Sat 11:51 am Look at my post again. I added somethings.

Thread: hi , can help me translate in english :(

3534.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Oct 2011 Sat 11:47 am   Quoting Adam25     can you explain that translation please?  how do you get ´I wouldn´t add´ from ´eklemeyiz´.  and where does ´i can´t be that foolish´ come from?  thanks       eklemeyiz mal o kadar da değil eklemeyiz is present tense but it has a future meaning so we can translate it as we will not add. mal means stupid o kadar da değil means not that much so we can translate the sentence like this: We will not add stupid, it would be too much to do so.   Edited (10/8/2011) by gokuyum hakhann1 liked this message

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3535.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Oct 2011 Sat 11:45 am   Quoting yasu please can anyone translate this song from turkish to english thanks in advance Sana kimse benzemez , senin halin bir baska Inanki su kalbimde , senin yerin bambaska Nobody is like you, your attitude is different Believe me your place is unique in that heart of mine. Sen bende ben gibisin , sen bir heves degilsin Su kalbime girersen , kendini göreceksin You are like me in me, you are not a temporary desire. If you enter into my heart, you will see yourself. Sen bedenimde canimsin , sen damarimda kanimsin  Sen tanridan sonra inan , tapilacak kadinsin Tapilacak kadinsin You are the soul in my body, you are the blood in my veins. Believe me you are the woman to worship after god. You are the woman to worship Seni her gün görmeden , inan yapamiyorum  Bir tanriya birde sana , severek tapiyorum  Believe me without seeing you everyday, i can´t do. I worship you and god fondly. Sen bende ben gibisin , sen bir heves degilsin Su kalbime girersen , kendini göreceksin You are like me in me, you are not a temporary desire. If you enter into my heart, you will see yourself. Sen bedenimde canimsin , sen damarimda kanimsin  Sen tanridan sonra inan , tapilacak kadinsin  Tapilacak kadinsin You are the soul in my body, you are the blood in my veins. Believe me you are the woman to worship after god. You are the woman to worship

Thread: hi , can help me translate in english :(

3536.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Oct 2011 Sat 11:32 am   Quoting tunci      Eklemeyiz mal o kadar da değil ---> you stupid , of course I wouldnt add [that person] , I cant be that fool..   Sana yavsiyanin adi ne Tuğba ?----> Who is that person being over friendly with you? Her name is Tuğba  or something like that Note : "yavşamak" is a slang word, quite rude to use also.   bisey Unuttum  ----> I forgot something.         Edited (10/8/2011) by gokuyum hakhann1 liked this message

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3537.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Oct 2011 Sat 11:25 am Nope. He says he overforced the girl to do something and she became a write off. Edited (10/8/2011) by gokuyum

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3538.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Oct 2011 Thu 04:59 pm   Quoting MarioninTurkey      I just want to hit my head against a brick wall (lit: the time has come to hit my head on the mountains and rocks) I´m talking about my friend from Canada. She´s a write-off *** **** **** The girl spoke 3 words in 2 hours "kasmak" is a slang word. It means to try hard, to work hard, to force yourself above your limits. "kastırtmak" means make someone try hard, work hard,etc..

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3539.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Oct 2011 Thu 04:49 pm Yardıma ihtiyacın olduğunda benden isteyebilirsin. When you need help you can ask me. öncelikle yardımın için cok tesekkur edeım. First of all I thank you for your help. benım tam olarak anlatmak ıstediğim şudur. The thing exactly I wanted want to explain is that :   ikili konuşmalarda hangi tür kelımelere veya nelere dikkat etmem gerektığıdir. Which type of words or what things I have to take care of in the bilateral treaty/agreement.   kısa yoldan en cabuk nasıl öğrenebilirim. How can I learn to the point and quickly   senin dediğn gibi dilbilgisi öğrenmemi yoksa daha farklı yollardan çevirmemi yapmam gerekir. As you said do I have to learn grammar or do translation by other different means? bu arada sen n zamanları buraya giryorsun. At this moment  By the way what time you are going to join/come in   belki bahsettiğim gibi ikili konuşmalarda takıldığım yerlerde bana yardımcı olabilirsin.. May be like we discussed I mentioned you will can help me when places are corrected/fixed where I am stuck in the bilateral agreement conversations.( by me) Edited (10/6/2011) by gokuyum

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3540.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Oct 2011 Thu 04:33 pm   Quoting ayse-eski Dünyada tek erkek kalsan bile sana bakmam diyen kadın bi düşünsene, Dünyada tek erkek ben kalmışım ! Sana bakar mıyım    O woman who says I would not look at you even  if you were the only man left in this world. Think a little. If I was the only man remained, would I look at you? Edited (10/6/2011) by gokuyum

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3541.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Sep 2011 Fri 05:15 pm   Quoting tunci      Kitap o kadar kötü mü Gök ? Lol.. Scalpel´e göre Top Reference mış ..Çok mu detaycı Muharrem Hoca acaba ?   Şöyle söyleyeyim kitabın ruhu yok ve ben ruhsuz şeylerden nefret ederim. Bu yüzden ben hep edebiyatla ilgili olmuşumdur.

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3542.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Sep 2011 Fri 05:02 pm   Quoting scalpel I don´t know the grammar books (for the suffixes) you two use, but mine is Türk Dil Bilgisi by Prof.Dr.Muharrem Ergin which is the top reference book for Turkish suffixes. I had hated Turkish grammar because of unlikeble book of Muharrem Ergin untill I met with Feyza Hepçilingirler´s "Türkçe Dilbilgisi Öğretme Kitabı" I still don´t like Turkish grammar very much but at least I don´t hate it anymore.

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3543.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Sep 2011 Fri 04:33 pm   Quoting scalpel I Think the right to freedom of opinion and expression does not include the right to insult the others´ sacred values. Writing "there is no God, religion is a lie" on the wall of the mosque in that cartoon was not a good idea, and it added nothing good to the cartoon but made me wonder what the cartoonist´s IQ would be... People are offended by many things. You can´t ban them all. Let everyone talk what they want.Community and history will judge them. Most importantly they will judge themselves. As a Muslim I am not offended by those words. Because God still exists whatever he says and religioun is not a lie. No need to create victims.   Elisabeth liked this message

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3544.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Sep 2011 Fri 03:23 pm   Quoting barba_mama     I am worried about the cartoonist who is on trial. I thought there was freedom of religion, and freedom of opinion in Turkey?   There is freedom of opinion here. But there is a question : Whose opinion?    sashk liked this message

Thread: What is -ki doing here?

3545.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Sep 2011 Tue 12:05 pm   Quoting Abla I was talking about ki and -ki separately. My problem was in -ki this time. Still I didn´t understand what taburenin üzerindeki refers to in the example. To the person who is speaking?   Yes. It means "the one on the stool" Edited (9/27/2011) by gokuyum MarioninTurkey liked this message

Thread: english - turkish (my attempt)

3546.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Sep 2011 Mon 09:06 pm   Quoting Hindistan   My try: I have lived in ******** for 12 months but I am from ***** Ben 12 aydır ********de/da yaşadım ama ben *****liyim/lıyım  (depending on the vowel hormony)   Let me correct one thing my friend. You should say Ben 12 ay Türkiye´de yaşadım. You could use -dır (for) if the predicate was present or past continous. (yaşıyorum/yaşıyordum)   Edited (9/26/2011) by gokuyum chloebrandon01 liked this message

Thread: Bende or Ben de

3547.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Sep 2011 Mon 08:55 pm   Quoting Dimples Selam, A Turkish person said to me in written language ´iyiyim, sen nasilsin?´ so i replied ´ben de iyiyim, tesekkurler´. He told me i should have said ´bende´ not ´ben de´. I have seen on this site that it was written as ´ben de´ so i´m confused now. Can someone please explain this to me. Tesekkurler Dimps     There are so many stupid natives who dont know anything about Turkish grammar but act like they know it. So please dont accept easily what you heart from someone and ask it to a person who has knowleedge about Turkish grammar.     archinia, Hindistan, sashk, harp00n and tunci liked this message

Thread: -den/-dan-Ablative suffix

3548.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Sep 2011 Sat 11:58 pm   Quoting Mavili     Thank you Gokuyum, Deli and Si+ so used in my example, "birşey söylemeden" = "something without telling" If this is part of adverbial clauses, do thy follow vowel harmony or no? Or is there -madan for a, ı, o, u ? örn sormeden= without asking paylaşmeden=without sharing   bir şey söylemeden lets analise this   bir is adjective şey is noun bir şey is adjective phrase söyle(mek) to say meden is without söylemeden is adverb   This adverb also has an indefinite object. It is "bir şey". So "bir şey söylemeden" means "without saying anything".   Hindistan liked this message

Thread: küçük şakalar

3549.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Sep 2011 Sat 11:49 pm   Quoting Hindistan     Anybodyyyyy...what are you waiting for guys...where are the answers...come up with some immotional things   Baykuş (owl)  Mr. Bird

Thread: translate to english

3550.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Sep 2011 Sat 06:27 pm merhaba to all ..please  translate this song for me? thanks in advance! kalbim söyle ne oldu bize   say, my heart what became of us/what happened to us   nasıl ihanet etti sözümüze how are promises were betrayed  how he/she betrayed our promise   ah kalbim sevmek iyi gelmez bize oh! my heart, love dosen`t suit us/ love isn´t good for us   biraz çeksek bile even if we suffer a little çıkarız biz düze onu bir daha görmeyi inan istemezsin   sana da acı verir bu son hallerim (hal means attitude here) I will take care of the pain it also causes you My attitudes also give you pain. bilirim sen de benim kadar kolay silemezsin I know you cant erase as easy as me   ama şimdi başka renkte bakıyor gözleri but now the his/her eyes are looking at another colour ağla kalbim ağla sen ağla kalbim ağla cry my heart ,you cry, cry my heart sus sesin duyulmasın içinden ağla be silent don´t let your voice be heard cry from within let the silent sound not be heard ağla kalbim ağla sen ağla kalbim ağla cry my heart you cry, cry my heart   sus sesin duyulmasın içinden ağla içinden ağla be silent don´t let your voice be heard cry form within cry from within, let you silent sound not be heard

Thread: küçük şakalar

3551.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Sep 2011 Sat 06:11 pm   Quoting si++     This kind of sense of humour is alien to me. But this has reminded me a question a friend had asked some years ago.   En şanslı "ce" nedir? (What is the luckiest "ce"?)   I will not tell the answer as it is a bit obscene and don´t ask me what it is. If you can´t solve it then you can´t solve it. I will answer it because sometimes I like annoying people. The anwer is "am-bulan-ce"   Edited (9/24/2011) by gokuyum Edited (9/24/2011) by gokuyum harp00n liked this message

Thread: -den/-dan-Ablative suffix

3552.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Sep 2011 Sat 06:05 am   Quoting Mavili "Bu durum karşısında Hoca bir şey söylemeden onları içeri alır ve sofraya oturtur." Source; I think from Princeton University. (I think its a children´s story) I have been trying to practice translating, though maybe that interactive site has Turkish thats a bit advanced for me yet. But I thought I would try anyway! I mention my sources so you know I dıdn´t make the sentences. Most of it has been ok, enough to get the gist of the sentences from the words and suffixes but probably not accurate translation. I came across that sentence. I was able to understand most of the sentence but it made me wonder about "söylemeden" When you have the -den/-dan suffix after a verb, instead of a noun, how does that work? Or is there something I am missing? Is it still "didn´t tell"?   Thanks in advance and I may post more to the thread if I have more questions about this exercise.    -meden means without. You have to add it to the root of the verb. It is not about -den, -dan. -meden is a different suffix. It makes verbs adverbs.   Edited (9/24/2011) by gokuyum Edited (9/24/2011) by gokuyum Hindistan and sashk liked this message

Thread: Bana yardim edebilir misiniz?

3553.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Sep 2011 Sat 05:57 am do you accept cards? Kart kabul ediyor musunuz? Where is the nearest cashpoint? En yakın bankamatik nerede? cancellation iptal/iptal etme .. 2 people haven´t turned up (´mis´ again?) 2 kişi gelmemiş/gözükmemiş I would like to cancel the booking rezervasyonu iptal etmek istiyorum. missing (eg... the ... is missing) kayıp wheelchair tekerlekli sandalye are there facilities for the disabled? Engelliler için tesisler var mı? I would like to book 2 tickets for the Akbuk excursion Akbuk gezisi için iki bilet ayırtmak istiyorum. There are complaints about the noise at night, people can´t sleep Geceleyinki gürültü hakkında şikayetler var; insanlar uyuyamıyor. chlorine klor When is the next bus to town? Şehire bir dahaki otobüs kaçta? flight uçuş What activities are there for children? Çocuklar için hangi aktiviteler var? night club gece klubü can you please fix the toilet? Lütfen tuvaleti tamir edebilir misiniz? what are the meal times? Yemek saatleri ne zaman? Are there vegetarian options? What options are there? Vejeteryanlar için seçenekler var mı? Hangi seçenekler var? Do you have children´s menu? Çocuk menünüz var mı? Is it open 24 hours? 24 sat açık mı? What time does the market open/ close? Market ne zaman açılıyor/kapanıyor? Where is the nearest... en yakın----- neresi? Who can I contact? Kiminle bağlantı kurabilirim? How can I contact you? Seninle nasıl bağlantı kurabilirim? Someone has an injury Birisinin yarası var./ Birisi yaralandı Can I have some assistance please? Yardımcı olabilir misiniz lütfen? Is there a lift/elevator? Asansör var mı? Do you have a safe here ? (to keep money etc) Müşteri kasanız var mı? They have lost their key Anahtarlarını kaybetmişler

Thread: Arzu ederdiniz bir yol görmeye

3554.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Sep 2011 Thu 07:05 pm   Quoting MarioninTurkey      This are very hard because the whole thing is a religious poem for Hacı Bektaşı and so has lots of poetic similes etc.   They are all idiomatic. You also have to tie the lines in with each other. e.g.   Muhabbet bağında güller dermeye .. hoşgeldiniz I would say as: Welcome to gathering roses in the garden of conversation   Hız vermek: to accelerate, to make something speed up, made it more exciting If I change the word order (it is poetic) in İlimde dünyaya vermiş idik hız  to İlimde dünyaya hız vermiştik I would say: We made the world more exciting in science But I am not 100% sure about this one!       Muhabbet is "conversation" as you said. But it has a secondary meaning too. And it is "love". Edited (9/22/2011) by gokuyum Edited (9/22/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: Need explanation..

3555.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Sep 2011 Wed 09:08 pm Doğum günümü hatırlaman beni çok mutlu etti.   Doğum günümü is a noun phrase. It is also definite object of "hatırlaman". Doğum günümü hatırlaman is the subject of the sentence. You can´t seperate "hatırlaman" from its object. Beni is the definite object of the verb "mutlu etmek". Çok is adverb. Mutlu etti is predicate. Edited (9/21/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: Need explanation..

3556.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Sep 2011 Wed 07:06 pm   Quoting Hindistan     Thank you Gok..could you explain further in what conditions its use will be most suitable...???   1) Beni hatırlaman çok güzel. Here it is the subject of the sentence with "beni". Because it is a verbal noun it can also have an object. And the object of it is "beni". You can´t seperate them. They are together the subject.   2)Beni hatırlamanı istiyorum. Here it is  the object with beni. Beni is still object of "hatırlamanı". But they are together the object of "istiyorum". The object is definitive because it is in accusative case because of "ı" at the end.   3)Hatırlamana sevindim. Now it is indirect object of "sevindim" because of "a" at the end. A makes it dative and indirect.   4)Beni hatırlaman için ne yapmalıyım? Now it is part of an adverb group.   It is a noun at the end Hindistan. It has the same conditions with another noun.   Edited (9/21/2011) by gokuyum Edited (9/21/2011) by gokuyum Edited (9/21/2011) by gokuyum Edited (9/21/2011) by gokuyum Hindistan liked this message

Thread: k changing to ğ

3557.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Sep 2011 Wed 04:39 am   Quoting Sweet_Paradise Merhaba,  I was just doing a few grammar exercises. I learnt that k changes to ğ if k comes before a vowel. Example kazak > kazağı So in this example I applied the same rule: Cacık > cacığda , but it is actually cacıkta.  Can someone explain why the K didnt change to Ğ in this example, is it something to do with the ı in the word.  Thank you And also if anyone has any more exercises/examples in relation to this grammar point please show me 1)After "p,ç,t,k" if a suffix which starts with a vowel (a,e,ı,i,o,ö,u,ü ) come "p, ç, t, k" soften and become "b,c,d, ğ"   2)After "f,s,t,k,ç,ş,h,p" if a suffix which starts with "c,d,g" come  "c,d,g" harden and become "ç,t,k"   1)cacık-a becomes cacığa 2)cacık-da becomes cacıkta Edited (9/21/2011) by gokuyum Edited (9/21/2011) by gokuyum Edited (9/21/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: tr - eng pls thx

3558.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Sep 2011 Wed 03:35 am   Quoting jacobjake Yar, yar ben senden ayrıl amam yar Yar, inan seni unutamam yar Gelsen.  gözüm yaşım. silsen yar Zamanı, zamanı tam    zamanı sevsen yar Dönsen, yaralı sev dana dönsen yar O senin sevdan yalanmış Yola gelmezmiş, halim görmezmiş Bu benim sevdam yamanmış Dile gelmezmiş, beni bilmezmiş Emekler boşa döndü yar Yaz bahar kışa döndü yar O gidenler hiç dönmedi yavrum Gelmedi yavrum Ömrüm boran kar Biz ki çok uzaklardan gelip Çok uzaklara savrulan sevda yelleriydik Biz ki asi umutlar beslerdik yüreğimizde Hesapsızdı yüreğim ve pazarlıksız ve de katıksız Şimdi başımı taştan taşa Yüreğimi soysuz sevdalara çaldırıyorum Yoruldum ve yanıldım Ama inan ki türkü gözlüm Bu azaran yaraya zamansız yakalandım It seems like a folk love song. Here is the tranlation of first part. Other parts are also about same things.   Yar, yar ben senden ayrıl amam yar Yar, inan seni unutamam yar Gelsen.  gözüm yaşım. silsen yar Zamanı, zamanı tam    zamanı sevsen yar Dönsen, yaralı sev dana dönsen yar   Love, love, I can´t leave you love Love believe me I can´t forget you. May you come; may you wipe my tears love. It is now the time, exact time may you love me love May you come back, may you come back to your wounded love. Edited (9/21/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: Need explanation..

3559.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Sep 2011 Wed 12:13 am   Quoting Hindistan çok teşekkürler doğum günümü "hatırlaman" beni çok mutlu etti Could someone explain what kind of construction is this "hatırlaman". I do understand it means "your remembering" but I want to know where and what could be the most appropriate situation to use it..please explain with examples.    Thanks   -hatırla(mak) is the verb. -ma is a suffix that makes verbs nouns (verbal nouns) -n is second person singular possesive suffix   Gelmene çok sevindim. If we try to translate this sentences literally with bad English. It means "I was very happy to your coming"   With better English we can translate it as "I was very happy because you came". Edited (9/21/2011) by gokuyum Hindistan liked this message

Thread: olduğu vs olması??

3560.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Sep 2011 Sun 11:56 pm   Quoting Spionen I have trouble distinguishing these. Not only with olmak, but the usage of the two forms in general. I understand that the -dik form is an adjective, describing a noun (such as "en sevdiğim renk" -- "my most-loved color") while the short infinitive + endings is a noun (as in "gitmem gerek" --- "my going is necessary"), but in practice... I don´t always know which one to use. For example, in a sentence like "nerede olduğunu bilmiyorum", what´s the noun being referred to? Is it like "I don´t know its where-being place" with "place" implied? I guess I understand in principle... but any further explanation that could clear it up any further for me would be very welcome! Thanks in advance As you said "dik" makes verbs adjectives. Ex: beklenmedik sonuç unexpected result But sometimes we use adjectives as verbal nouns. Ex: Gittiğini söylemedi. He didn´t say that he had gone.     (Onun) Hasta  olduğunu duymadım. Actually there is a hidden onun (his) in this sentence. And "onun" and "olduğunu" are members of a noun phrase.    We use "dik" suffix to create adjectives or verbal nouns in past tense. This is the most important point.   Ex: Koştuğunu gördüm. (past tense). I saw that you ran.   But when predicate is  present tense, the verbal noun sometimes gains a present tense meaning.   Ex: Koştuğunu görüyorum. (present tense) I see that you run.     Edited (9/19/2011) by gokuyum Lololooo and sashk liked this message

Thread: need to get it right

3561.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Sep 2011 Sat 10:45 pm Don´t be upset deli. I also studied English 7 years in the school. But I started to speak ten years later. So you are quicker than me. Take care.

Thread: HELP PLS DHL

3562.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Sep 2011 Fri 11:13 pm   Quoting canimarab hI eVERYONE I HAVE RECEIVED THIS FROM DHL TODAY AS A SHIPMENT IVE SENT IS STUCK IN CUSTOMS AND MUST BE RETURNED. PLEASE CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHAT I HAVE TO WRITE IN THE GAPS THANKS YOU Atatürk Havalimanı Kargo Gümrük Müdürlüğüne, ...........Numaralı AWB ile .........fırmasından gelen ve Atatürk Havalimanı Gümrüğü´nde bekleyen gönderi tarafımıza yanlışlıkla gönderilmiştir. Bu eşyanın mahrecine iade edilmesi için gereğinin yapılmasını, emir  müsadelerinize arz ederim.                                   Saygılarımızla Firma vergi dairesi&numarasi: ..... First gap : the number of AWB Second gap: the name of the company which you sent the shipment..     Edited (9/16/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: Need explanation..

3563.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Sep 2011 Fri 11:09 pm   Quoting Hindistan Could someone explain "Zorunda kalmak" with the meaning it carries in different contexts with examples   Sağ olun... Zorunda kalmak means  to be left no choice but (to do something), to be obliged.   Bugün operaya gitmek zorunda kaldım. I was obliged to go to the opera today.   Hindistan liked this message

Thread: some help is needed..

3564.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Sep 2011 Fri 03:37 pm Actually I am not sure. Can somebody help?

Thread: Conjugating nouns?

3565.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Sep 2011 Fri 03:09 pm You know you can only conjugate verbs. Ex: gider -im (personal ending for first person)       gider -sin (personal ending for second person)       gider - 0  (no personal ending for third person)   But it looks like we also conjugate nouns.   Ex: güzel -im       güzel -sin       güzel   But it is not as it seems. Because we actually conjugate a hidden verb not the noun. That verb is "ermek". It means to be, to exist. In time this verb changed like this:   er(mek) - e(mek) - i(mek) and then it dissappeared. But actually it is still there. Sometimes it is hidden in the personal ending and you can´t see it but sometimes you can make it appear.   Ex: güzelmişsin : güzel -i-miş-sin. Now you can see it.   What I want to say is  we also don´t conjugate nouns in Turkish. But it seems so.   This "i" also obeys to the vowel harmony. Ex: hasta-ı-mış-ım Edited (9/16/2011) by gokuyum Edited (9/16/2011) by gokuyum tomac and Abla liked this message

Thread: some help is needed..

3566.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Sep 2011 Fri 02:57 pm   Quoting Mischmillah Could somebody be so kind and tell me how to say this in Turkish? " That must have been very fun" The sentence refers to a situation.   Çok eğlenceli olmalıydı. OR Çok eğlenceli olmuş olmalı.    Edited (9/16/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: mimoza çiçeğim lyrics translation

3567.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Sep 2011 Thu 12:27 am   Quoting istavrit87 Hello everybody! I´ve searched for a long time but couldn´t find any translation of the song mimoza çiçeğim by Volkan Konak. It would really mean a lot to me if somebody could translate these lines. Thanks a lot in advance!  *öptüm*   Canımı yoluna koyduğum Mimoza çiçeğimsin Kanatlanıp göğe uçma uçma sevdiceğim Avcın değilim ki senin Kaçma sevdiğim   You are the one whose path I put my life on my mimosa flower. Don´t fly to the sky taking wings. Don´t my love. I am not your hunter, don´t run away my love. Yıktın dağlarımı yıktın Mimoza çiçeğimsin Başkası okşanıp sevilmez Delirme sevdiceğim Yaktın ciğerimi yaktın Yapma sevdiğim   You demolished my mountains, you did. You are my mimosa flower. It is not possible to caress and love someone else. Don´t be mad my love. You burned my liver, you did. Don´t do my love. Öpüp okşayamam ben seni Mimoza çiçeğimsin Alaca karganın gülüsün Ellerin çiçeğisin Değişmem dünyaya seni Gitme sevdiğim   I can´t caress you kissing you. You are my mimosa flower. You are the rose of pied crow. You are the flower of others. I can´t exchange you even for the worlds. Don´t go my love. Yıktın dağlarımı yıktın Mimoza çiçeğimsin Başkası okşanıp sevilmez Delirme sevdiceğim Yaktın ciğerimi yaktın Yapma sevdiğim   You demolished my mountains, you did. You are my mimosa flower. It is not possible to caress and love someone else. Don´t be mad my love. You burned my liver, you did. Don´t do my love. Çekilmez bir adam oldum yine Uykusuz aksi nalet Bi bakıyorsun ki ana avrat söver gibi Azgın bir hayvan döver gibi bugün çalışıyorum Sonra bir de bakıyorsun ki Ağzımda sönük bir sigara gibi tembel bir türkü Sabahtan akşama kadar sırt üstü yatıyorum ertesi gün Evet evet ve beni çileden çıkarıyor Büsbütün Kendime karşı duyduğum nefret ve de merhamet Uekilmez bir adam oldum çekilmez Uykusuz aksi nalet Yine her seferki gibi haksızım Sebep yok Biliyorum Olması da imkansız Bu yaptığım iş ayıp rezalet Fakat elimde değil gülüm Elimde değil sevgilim Sebi kıskanıyorum Beni affet Beni affet sevgilim Beni affet...   I became an unbearable man. Sleepless, irritable, peevish. Sometimes I work like I swear to someone´s mother and wife, like I beat a wild animal. Then sometimes I lie in the bad whole day a lazy folk song like a dim cigarette  in my mouth. Yes, yes this makes me completely crazy. The mercy and hatred I feel for myself. I became an unbearable man, unbearable. Sleepless, irritable, peevish. I am wrong like always. There is no reason. I know. And it is impossible to be a reason. The thing I do is a shame, disgrace. But it is beyond my control. I am jealous of you. Forgive me. Forgive me my love. Forgive me.     Edited (9/15/2011) by gokuyum Edited (9/15/2011) by gokuyum etena liked this message

Thread: E to T

3568.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Sep 2011 Wed 11:54 pm There is a difference in Turkish between "Radyo dinliyorum/dinlerim" and "Radyoyu dinliyorum" Don´t you have such a difference?

Thread: General question

3569.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Sep 2011 Wed 11:51 pm   Quoting Henry     My understanding is "kolay gelsin" is an expression used that means "may it come easy". It is only said directly to the person working, to suggest that hopefully their work has no difficulties, or goes easily for them. The ´sin´ ending is not related to the second person singular suffix in this form. It is similar to "geçmiş olsun" and "kutlu olsun" in form. See more here   You can say "ona kolay gelsin".

Thread: T to E please

3570.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Sep 2011 Wed 11:46 pm   Quoting Dimples Hi all, Just a few comments that i can´t understand.   1. Bitirdi bugün beni 2 sagolun komutanım kyfın nasıl yerındemı 3 Üleee Sonunda bunuda gördük ayagı cercevelettik yaw   Tesekkurler Dimps   1) a)He/she it finished me today     b)Today finished me   2) Thank you commander. How are you? Are you fine?   3)Duude. At last we witnessed this. We made the foot framed.   Edited (9/15/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: E to T

3571.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Sep 2011 Wed 11:37 pm   Quoting Abla Two points: 1. If you look at dinlemek in the dictionary, you will find |ı| written next to the translation. This means that this verb takes an accusative object. If there was a case ending thus it would be radyoyu according to the vowel harmony rules. 2. In Turkish, only the definite object is marked with accusative. As your sentence asks if the person is listening to the radio in general the object is indefinite and unmarked. That´s why          Radyo dinliyor musun?   You see it says "the radio" in the sentence. So if we want to translate it literally we should use accusative case.

Thread: Haydar Ergülen - Gözlüklü Şiir

3572.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Sep 2011 Fri 06:17 pm I added the original poem. I hope you like it as much as I do Edited (9/9/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: Haydar Ergülen - Gözlüklü Şiir

3573.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Sep 2011 Fri 02:08 am This is such a nice poem. I wanted to translate it. But there were many word plays. I did my best.

Thread: Haydar Ergülen - Gözlüklü Şiir

3574.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Sep 2011 Fri 01:57 am Gözlüklü Şiir   İyi değiliz gözlük bak durmadan kırmaya çalışıyorlar bizi hiç iyi değiliz iki gözüm, bende can, sende cam bırakmadılar, daha kırılacak ne varsa bizde, gözlüğü olmayanlar çok mu acımasız oluyor ne, çekip alıyorlar seni gözümden, öyle çok eziliyoruz ki gözlük, sen bensiz kırık, ben sensiz karanlık, nerde insanlık bizi bu kadar kırmasalar, di’mi cam dostum, onlara da birer gözlük alırdık! Ne güzel gözümün önünde olman yine, sensiz ne gülüşün tadı var ne de bakışın sen olmayınca kötülük daha kötü görünüyor gözüme, yumruklar daha zalim, sözler daha sert iniyor yüreğime, sensiz bu dünya bomboş görünüyor gözüme, sana gözüm gibi bakacağım, artık senden başkasını görecek gözüm yok, bizi görmeyenlere söyleyecek sözüm yok, bizi çok kırdılar gözlük, bizi tuzlabuz, bizi unufak, bizi camçerçeve kırdılar da bakmadılar bir kez olsun cangözüyle, şimdi hem cana, hem cama göz diktiler, hem gözden düştük hem sözden, bir daha kırılamayız gözlük, sonumuz olur kırılmak bir daha, parçamızı bulamazlar ikimizin de! Ah ne bakacak göz, ne görecek gönül bırakmadılar bize, bir güzellik kalsaydı, iki ne dört gözümüzle titrerdik üstüne, candan içeri olan camdan içeri derdik demesine de, öyle bakımsız, bakışsız bıraktılar ki gözümüzü, gönlümüzü, ne can hevese geldi, ne göresi geldi camın, biz birbirimize iyi bakalım gözlüğüm, canım, belki onlar da iyi bakarlar kendilerine, gözlüğüm, iki gözüm, kemiğim, bu sözlerimle umarım kırmamışımdır seni, zira çok incesin kırılırsın, kırılır arkadaşlığın camdan kalbi de!   Poem with the glasses   We are not good glasses Look, they always try to break us without stopping We are not good at all  my dear fellow, They didnt leave a heart in me and a glass on you What is left to be broken more? Are people who dont have glasses too cruel ? Why do they pull and take you from my eyes? We are oppressed a lot glasses You are broken without me I am (in) dark without you Where is the humanity? May they not break us this much Right? My glass fellow We would buy them glasses too It is so nice you to be in front of my eyes again It doesnt give me pleasure laughing or looking without you Without you badness seems worse The fists are more cruel And words hit my heart harder Without you world seems altogether empty I will be overprotective of you From now on I don´t have an eye to see someone other than you. I dont have a word to say people who don´t see us They broke us a lot glasses They broke us completely into small pieces including glass and frame They didn´t leave us with the eye of heart once Now they set their eyes on our life and our glass both We fell over favor and they dont mention us We will not be broken again glasses It would be our end if we were broken again. They couldn´t even find  a piece of both of us. Oh! They didn´t leave us an eye to look and a heart to see If there was a beauty left, we would look at it with our four eyes. We would say "what is through heart, it is through glass" But they left our eyes and our hearts so neglected and without look Neither heart was enthusiastic nor glass wanted to see. Lets take good care of ourselves my glasses, my dear. Maybe they can get good care of themselves too. My glasses, my dear, my bone I hope I hadn´t broken you with these words Because you are so thin, You can be broken Even the glass heart of friendship can be broken.               Edited (9/9/2011) by gokuyum Edited (9/9/2011) by gokuyum Edited (9/9/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: English to Turkish translation please ty

3575.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Sep 2011 Thu 08:46 pm There are a thousand thoughts that lead me always to you My soul is deserted without you And I feel I am dying, I wish to touch you To feel you next to my heart I am waiting for that day when you will remember That I am your only love   Beni her zaman sana yönlendiren binlerce düşünce var Ruhum sensiz terkedilmiş Öldüğümü hissediyorum, sana dokunmayı diliyorum, Seni kalbimin yanında hissetmeyi. Hatırlayacağın o günü bekliyorum Benim tek aşkın olduğumu.   I am drowning in tears of yearn (desire) I am suffocating in a much too sad air I got used to adore a love that killed me... a love that killed me... a love that killed me... a love that killed me   Arzunun göz yaşlarında boğuluyorum Çok daha üzgün bir havada nefes alamıyorum Beni öldüren bir aşka tapmaya alıştım.... beni öldüren bir aşka....beni öldüren bir aşka...     There are a thousand thoughts that always remember me... only of you I forgot you in my soul And I feel I am dying, I wish to touch you To feel you next to my heart I am waiting for that day when you will remember That I am your only love   ...........................  (i didnt understand this)  Ruhumda seni unuttum Ve öldüğümü hissediyorum, sana dokunmayı diliyorum, Seni kalbimin yanında hissetmeyi. Hatırlayacağın o günü bekliyorum Benim tek aşkın olduğumu.

Thread: e-t please - short

3576.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Sep 2011 Thu 08:33 pm   Quoting maryilyons Thanks in advance.   You can´t give me back the last two and a half years or my dignity. Bana son iki buçuk yılımı ve itibarımı geri veremezsin.

Thread: \"Boys\"

3577.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Sep 2011 Wed 12:34 am   Quoting Abla Thanks, scalpel, for answering. This is a really useful post. There is so much to know which you cannot find from dictionaries.   Humans are walking dictionaries. Edited (9/7/2011) by gokuyum jolanaze liked this message

Thread: translation help t-e

3578.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Sep 2011 Wed 12:31 am   Quoting strix55 Demir Gibi Kollarım hic Affetmem Sollarım   My arms are  like iron, I never forgive; I overtake.     Edited (9/7/2011) by gokuyum Edited (9/7/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: Grammar problem..Plz help

3579.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Sep 2011 Wed 12:29 am   Quoting Hindistan Thank you si for your prompt reply...I went thorugh the links you suggested and found out three possible meaning.. but not sure which one to carry forward when I face these structures..could you elaborate further...as in.. By Wikipedia: Konuşmaktayız "We are in (the act of) speaking." Savaşmaktayız "We are in warmaking", that is, "We are at war."   According to Erdinc:     Kitap okuyorum.         I am reading a book Kitap okumaktayım.     I am reading a book This is your explanation: V+mak/mek +ta/te = to have been V+ing gitmekte = (it) has been going düşünmekteyim = I have been thinking gelmekteler = they have been coming   Thanks       My teachers always told me not to use "makta". Because it is gramatically incorrect. But I always witness it is preferred instead of present continious tense in official correspondences. So what is your idea about this subject?

Thread: cevirmek lutfen. Tskr

3580.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Sep 2011 Wed 12:24 am   Quoting Michaela007 My friend didn´t understand me. sayesinde herkes    Context is very important in Turkish. For example: "Çok olmuş" can mean: 1)It has become too much 2)It has been too long   So please send the whole conversation if you want to have a proper translation.

Thread: simple but I dont know

3581.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Sep 2011 Tue 12:22 pm   Quoting deli I know how to say its you- sensin but how do I say its me Who is it? Kim o? It is me. Benim.

Thread: Turkey downgrades ties with Israel

3582.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Sep 2011 Mon 05:18 pm A real man always farts further than others.

Thread: can someone please translate to turkish for me

3583.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Sep 2011 Mon 04:56 pm   Quoting deli      it nothing to be  exaggerated.?   yes

Thread: English to Turkish translation please (sorry, last one I hope!)

3584.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Sep 2011 Mon 04:49 pm scalpel where do you hide your wings?

Thread: E to T

3585.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Sep 2011 Mon 04:46 pm   Quoting Inscrutable Sara (kızım) üzgündü çünkü yüzmeye onunsuz gittim. Sara was sad because I went swimming without her. Thank You   Sara üzgündü çünkü yüzmeye onsuz gittim. Onsuz(without her) must be near the predicate because it is the thing we want to emphasize . If you want to emphasize a thing put it near the predicate. Inscrutable liked this message

Thread: E - T please....

3586.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Sep 2011 Mon 04:36 pm   Quoting deli      Cuma gününde  dort saat saat dört sularında orada olacağım Cuma gününde bir yerde buluşalım mı, eğer öyleyse nerede ve saat kaçta     my try but wait for corrections   here comes another small correction   Edited (9/5/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: cevirmek lutfen. Tskr

3587.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Sep 2011 Mon 04:11 pm   Quoting Henry     My attempt, but without correct spelling and Turkish letters, and knowing the context it is difficult. This attempt may not help you much, but here it is, with my guess at the corrected Turkish Tuana´yı görüyor musun? - Do you see Tuana? çok olmuş - (would normally mean ´very ripe´, but I guess the writer left out an adjective, maybe ´iyi´, çok iyi olmuş - he/she seems very good) OR it has become too much işi olmamış mı? - Didn´t he/she have work to do?  di. Hasn´t his job happened? anlamadım - I did not understand   ............either did I          Edited (9/5/2011) by gokuyum Edited (9/5/2011) by gokuyum Edited (9/5/2011) by gokuyum Henry liked this message

Thread: Süleymaniye´de Bayram Sabahı (Poetry by Yahya Kemal Beyatlı)

3588.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Sep 2011 Fri 12:12 am what a wonderful poem! It amazes me. hedef liked this message

Thread: Süleymaniye´de Bayram Sabahı (Poetry by Yahya Kemal Beyatlı)

3589.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Sep 2011 Thu 11:34 pm Süleymaniye´de Bayram Sabahı     Artarak gönlümün aydınlığı her saniyede Bir mehâbetli sabah oldu Süleymâniye´de Kendi gök kubbemiz altında bu bayram saati, Dokuz asrında bütün halkı, bütün memleketi Yer yer aksettiriyor mavileşen manzaradan, Kalkıyor tozlu zaman perdesi her an aradan.   A Festival Morning in Süleymaniye   By increasing the light of my heart in every second It became a majestic morning in Süleymaniye. Under our vault of heaven, at this festival hour It reflects whole people and whole country in its nine centuries Here and there from the view which becomes blue. The dusty curtain of time is disappearing  every moment.       Gecenin bitmeye yüz tuttuğu andan beridir, Duyulan gökte kanat, yerde ayak sesleridir. Bir geliş var!.. Ne mübârek, ne garîb âlem bu!.. Hava boydan boya binlerce hayâletle dolu...   From the moment the night started to end What is heart  is the voices of wings in the sky and voices of feet on the ground. There is a coming! What a holy and weird universe this is. Sky is filled all over with thousands of ghosts.   Her ufuktan bu geliş eski seferlerdendir; O seferlerle açılmış nice yerlerdendir. Bu sükûnette karıştıkça karanlıkla ışık Yürüyor, durmadan, insan ve hayâlet karışık; Kimi gökten, kimi yerden üşüşüp her kapıya, Giriyor, birbiri ardınca, ilâhî yapıya. Tanrının mâbedi her bir tarafından doluyor, Bu saatlerde Süleymâniye târih oluyor.   This coming from every horizon is from old campaigns From many places which were opened by those campaigns. As long as darkness and light join in this quietness People and ghosts walk together without stopping. Flocking to every door some of them from sky some of them from ground, They enter one after another to the divine structure. The temple of god is filled from  every where At these hours Süleymaniye becomes history. Edited (9/1/2011) by gokuyum Edited (9/1/2011) by gokuyum Edited (9/1/2011) by gokuyum Edited (9/1/2011) by gokuyum Edited (9/1/2011) by gokuyum Edited (9/2/2011) by gokuyum Edited (9/7/2011) by gokuyum hedef, tunci, Henry and Aida krishan liked this message

Thread: Translation from turkish people

3590.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Sep 2011 Thu 11:09 pm   Quoting vanilla   1.Çok Sağolasin, 2.Sallana yuvarlana yatıyoruz.    Thanks so much! 1) Thank you very much 2) We go to bed swinging and rolling.

Thread: am i the only one ?

3591.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Sep 2011 Thu 11:06 pm every translation teaches a new thing to the learners and it also pleases the owner of the text. so no problem. Edited (9/1/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: pls translate

3592.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Aug 2011 Tue 02:52 pm   Quoting deli gokuyum, what does the slang bit mean please I wrote slang after all sentences which have swearings. I completely translated the text.   Edited (8/30/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: very short t-e

3593.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Aug 2011 Mon 11:49 pm   Quoting tunci      I have met a Dannish [a woman /girl from Denmark] woman . "hatun" is a slang word for "woman, girl "   Actually it is not always slang. But young people use it that way. Hatun means wife, queen. Actually it is a foreign word. And it comes from Sogdian language according to Sevan Nişanyan.   hedef liked this message

Thread: pls translate

3594.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Aug 2011 Mon 11:10 pm   Quoting canimarab Kardeşim merhaba umarım herşey yolundadır.ben bu hafta delirmezsem bi daha bana siksen bişey olmaz bugün 350 türk girecek bana! ıpet için gerçekten sana minnettarım.inan ne kadar mutlu oldum bilemezsin.hep birilerinin elinde gördüğümde alıcam bi gün dedim.ıphone da sayende oldu i pet de.çok sağol kardeşim.Allah her daim senin de gönlüne göre versin.   Hi brother. I hope everything is okay. If I dont go mad this week, even if someone fucks me  (slang) nothing will happen to me. 350 Turks will slip into me today.(slang). I am really grateful for ipad. You cant imagine how happy I am. I have always seen it in others´ hands and said "I will buy it one day". Thanks to you I have iphone and ipad. Thank you very much brother. May Allah always give you according to what your heart desires.   Edited (8/29/2011) by gokuyum Edited (8/29/2011) by gokuyum Edited (8/29/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: My favourite rubais from Mevlana

3595.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Aug 2011 Wed 01:41 am 7) Someone who passes by my grave becomes drunken. The one who stands by my grave  will stay drunken forever. If the drunk of my grave dives into sea, sea becomes drunken, it overflows, it foams, if s/he enter into earth, grave becomes drunken and sarcophagus too. Edited (8/3/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: My favourite rubais from Mevlana

3596.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Aug 2011 Wed 01:25 am , Edited (8/3/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: My favourite rubais from Mevlana

3597.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Aug 2011 Wed 12:28 am 6) If it is necessary to be ashamed of this and that, it is also necessary to not to see others´ disgraces and faults, to veil and to bury them. If you will show good and bad as how they are like mirrors, first you should have a solid face and you should be insensitive like mirrors. Edited (8/3/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: My favourite rubais from Mevlana

3598.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Aug 2011 Wed 12:09 am 5) I want to run hundred mansions away  from where the reason exists and I want to get rid of the  existence of good and evil. There are such beauties behind this curtain. My real presence is there. Hey stupid people, I want to love myself. Edited (8/3/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: My favourite rubais from Mevlana

3599.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Aug 2011 Wed 12:03 am 4)Lovers sacrafice two worlds in a breath. They sacrafice 100 years of living for one moment. Following a scent, they go a way of 1000 mansions, to take (to gain) a heart, they give 1000 lives.

Thread: My favourite rubais from Mevlana

3600.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Aug 2011 Tue 02:58 am 3) Come nevertheless,  come nevertheless. Whoever you are, come as you are. If you don´t know God, if you worship fire, if you worship idols, come nevertheless. This is our lodge, it is not the lodge of hopelessness. If you have broken your vows 100 times, come nevertheless. alameda and Nanou liked this message

Thread: My favourite rubais from Mevlana

3601.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Aug 2011 Tue 02:41 am 2) Our body which is made of earth is the light of the heavens. The angels envy our agility in the way of God. Sometimes angels are jealous of our pureness, sometimes even Satan runs away from our evilness.

Thread: My favourite rubais from Mevlana

3602.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Aug 2011 Tue 02:32 am 1)Anyone who doesnt suffer of a secret love, s/he hasn´t got a heart and a soul eventhough s/he seems alive. S/he is like a dead person walking. If you think you are smart, go and ask for toruble from god because to not to have trouble and to not to fall in love are incurable diseases. Edited (8/2/2011) by gokuyum Edited (8/2/2011) by gokuyum Edited (8/2/2011) by gokuyum alameda liked this message

Thread: translate for me pleasee

3603.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Aug 2011 Tue 02:09 am   Quoting M.C. biz hiç beceremedik sevmeyi de terketmeyi de   tesekkur ederim   we have never managed to love and to leave.

Thread: Norway: island shooting death toll rises to 84

3604.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Aug 2011 Mon 11:34 pm   Quoting Daydreamer He was sick in the head and that´s why he did it, not because he played a video game. Talking about his crime, he wasn´t delusioned, he didn´t claim not to know the difference between fiction and reality. He knew he had to kill these innocent people because he entertained the silly idea his was the right way of life and those supporting oppossing ideas had to be put to death to make his case loud and clear. This monster wanted fame and chose the sick one.   The absurd thing is western world invaded muslim countries by its culture, technology, life style, literature, science, tourism, etc.. but some people dont want Muslims to invade their countries too. You cant escape from it. Because you showed western world as a heaven for your purposes and now everybody wants to immigrate there for a better future. I have never believed western world is a some kind of heaven, it is impossible for me to feel safe there.

Thread: t to e

3605.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Aug 2011 Mon 12:52 am   Quoting ayse-eski  İnsanlık dışı. Temel amacı kadının cinselliklten haz almasını engellemek. Erkek sünneti gibi amacı, mikrop kapmasın, boy uzatsın, Peygamber´e öykünülsün.. vs değil. Kadınların namusunu onların namussuzluk yapabilme kapasitelerini dağlayarak korumaya çalışıyor namussuzlar. Ben derim kişi kendinden bilir işi. Toplumlarda kendilerinden bilir işi. demekki; O toplumlarda erkeklerin hepsi sapık. ahlaksız. şerefsiz.   It is inhuman. The main purpose of it is to prevent women from taking pleasure from sex. Its purpose is not same with man circumcision. It is not about saving oneself from microbes, letting him grow long (?) or imitating the prophet. Dishonest people try to protect women´s honor cauterizing (?) their potential of acting dishonourably. I always say "if you do something you will always suspect others of doing the same thing too." It is same for the societies. It means all the men in these societies are perverted, corrupt and dishonorable. Edited (8/1/2011) by gokuyum Edited (8/1/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: please help translate

3606.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Aug 2011 Mon 12:17 am   Quoting maisha thanks for the help! so does that mean that this person is not a muslim? We cant be sure but it is a fact that he doesn´t fast   Edited (8/1/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: About Armenian Issue

3607.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jul 2011 Wed 03:56 am I opened this thread and then forgot it.  Only thing I will say about this issue we should forgive each other.

Thread: english to turkish please

3608.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jul 2011 Wed 03:13 am   Quoting lynette I am planning to come to see you in september, maybe the 9th for a week, i cant stay longer because of my work. Will this date be ok for you. I will let you know my flight times later when i have booked my flights. It will be lovely to see you all again and your new house. love to you all Quote: Add quoted text here   Seni belki Eylül´ün dokuzunda bir hafta için gelip görmek istiyorum. İşim dolayısıyla daha uzun kalamam. Bu tarih senin için uygun mu? Uçuş zamanlarımı onları ayırttıktan sonra sana bildiriceğiim. Hepinizi ve evinizi (evini?) tekrar görmek çok hoş olacak. Hepinize sevgiler.

Thread: Protesters demand removal of pledge from Turkish schools

3609.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jul 2011 Wed 02:50 am   Quoting stumpy I think you mean patriotism gokuyum   Nope. The pledge is not that important. Everyone should have a right to say it or not. The thing I protest is the hate against the founder of this country. This is what I condemn. This is something like somebody saves your life but instead of thanking him you spit on his face. Edited (7/27/2011) by gokuyum tunci liked this message

Thread: Norway: island shooting death toll rises to 84

3610.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jul 2011 Tue 11:51 pm   Quoting barba_mama So we went back to the games... crazy... The mindset of racists and any other extremists is the danger here, not video games. No WoW character ever had to go to an island and kill people who couldn´t defend themselves. I have never seen a bomb made of fertilizer in Halo. Real life has enough violence that influences people, which doesn´t even come close to the violence you see in videogames. I´m sure the victims on that island played videogames too.    I keep hoping that this action shows the dangers of racism, and will mean a shift away from the racists inspired parties that I see springing up every where around the world. He mentioned Wilders, the Dutch politician in his manifest... I hope people can see the link between Wilders and the uprising of crazy people like this. THAT link is much clearer than the link between his actions and videogames. Racism has no place in any modern society, and I hope people will start to understand this... it is the only positive thing that can come from a disaster like this. You talk like racism is a seperate thing from human nature. The main problem is human nature. We are capable of doing everything we want and we just need an excuse. This time it is racism; next time it will be religion. I am trying to say we are dangerous creatures.

Thread: Protesters demand removal of pledge from Turkish schools

3611.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jul 2011 Tue 11:45 pm There was a thing called fidelity. Anyone remember what it means?

Thread: Norway: island shooting death toll rises to 84

3612.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jul 2011 Tue 02:21 am   Quoting Daydreamer I´d rather blame his own paranoia than video games. Besides, it´s pretty difficult these days to find a thirty-two year old who has never played a gorey video game. Fortunately not all of them turn out to be psychos. Although I agree that the amount of violence we´re being exposed to as the result of mega fast information flow is shocking. The problem here is even pacifist, peace-loving people play these games and to kill people in these games give them joy. This makes me think. I dont blame games. I blame us. A monster lives in all of us and it waits to wake up. We must be very carefull.   Edited (7/26/2011) by gokuyum Edited (7/26/2011) by gokuyum Edited (7/26/2011) by gokuyum Daydreamer liked this message

Thread: Norway: island shooting death toll rises to 84

3613.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jul 2011 Mon 09:58 pm   Quoting alameda I agree 100% si++. The games and movies desensitize us, so actual violence becomes less repugnant. We see horrible things on TV, our kids play hideous games....of course this has an effect. It is a type of "grooming" that normalizes antisocial behaviour.    In fact the US Army used video games as a valuable tool for training. "  That has not stopped the military from embracing video games to recruit and train a young generation of gamers who typically play commercial games such as "Modern Warfare 2," which passed $1 billion in sales in January."   I always asked myself If I am a good person and hate violence, why I like killing people in video games. I couldnt find an answer. Maybe I am not as good as I think. Edited (7/25/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: ne demek

3614.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jul 2011 Mon 04:47 pm   Quoting deli olur olmazsa       I think it is "olur olmaza".  When "olur olmaz" is a noun it means "eveything without discrimination" It has a negative meaning.   Note: Olur means "okay". Olmazsa means "if not" Edited (7/25/2011) by gokuyum Edited (7/25/2011) by gokuyum Edited (7/25/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: the second part of the first part turkish-english please this one´s very important

3615.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2011 Sun 07:34 pm   Quoting caliptrix     I think we should consider the origin of this phrase. It means "to love until his God", indeed it means as "faith", which means "when I love, I give up my faith and I start to believe the faith who I love" some like that. And about "playing with fire": this phrase does it already itself. I don´t recommend to use that either, but it is the exact meaning. My interpration is different from yours. "Allahına kadar" means "to the highest level" I think. It is not about faith. As I said it is a measure. The possesive suffix points "its". It can be translated as" I love you to the highest point of love".

Thread: the second part of the first part turkish-english please this one´s very important

3616.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2011 Sun 04:39 am   Quoting Henry     I agree, nobody should ever compare their love to anything you cannot be absolutely certain about. Words are always easy, what you do is more important!   I agree with you. "Allah´ına kadar"  means till your/its god.It is not possible to translate it literally(it means something like "to the highest level") But it is a measure. And it can be considered rude or offensive to use such a measure. Becuse Allah shouldn´t be a part of a measure when he? is measureless. Edited (7/24/2011) by gokuyum Edited (7/24/2011) by gokuyum Edited (7/24/2011) by gokuyum Edited (7/24/2011) by gokuyum Henry liked this message

Thread: en to tr please and thx

3617.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2011 Sun 04:29 am   Quoting Lady_A I accept your appologies but I cannot forget that I felt I was worthless to you. You said you forgot your dreams with me, I am curious, what dreams were those? Benimle birlikteyken hayallerini unuttuğunu söyledin. Not "bana dağir (about me) " I guess   Edited (7/24/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: ne demek

3618.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2011 Sun 04:14 am "dil" means "language" or "tongue" in Turkish. But it means "heart" in Farsi. It is a small possibility but maybe the person who wrote this sentence preferred to use "heart" in Farsi. But it can´t be understood by most of the people who is not familliar with Ottoman language. Also this sentence can be a satire. It can mean "if you are out of sight, you will be out of heart but also out of people´s gossips.So maybe it is not that bad" Tunci´s explanation is also possible. Edited (7/24/2011) by gokuyum Edited (7/24/2011) by gokuyum Edited (7/24/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: the second part of the first part turkish-english please this one´s very important

3619.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jul 2011 Sun 03:46 am "Allah´ına kadar sevmek" is slang and it means "to love someone as much as possible". I dont recommend you to use such slang sayings which include the name "Allah". Don´t play with fire Edited (7/24/2011) by gokuyum Edited (7/24/2011) by gokuyum Edited (7/24/2011) by gokuyum Edited (7/24/2011) by gokuyum Edited (7/24/2011) by gokuyum Henry liked this message

Thread: Translation from Turkish to English-some confusion...

3620.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jul 2011 Tue 10:16 pm Quoting London2012 My attempt at a slightly longer sentence... Araştırma sonucunda imiş ´in cümledeki yerinin değişkenliği , yani sadece yüklemden sonra değil, cümlenin başka unsurlarından sonra da gelebildiği ve bunun cümledeki önemli veya yeni bilgiyi vurgulamak için yapıldığı örneklerle gösterilmiştir. 1) Araştırma sonucunda=In the concluding section of this reseach 2)imiş ´in cümledeki yerinin değişkenliği=the irregularity of imis´s place within a sentence 3) yani sadece yüklemden sonra değil=in other words that it does not only come after a predicate 4) that it come come after other elements of a sentence and in order to emphasize an important or new point in this sentence 5) yapıldığı örneklerle gösterilmiştir. can be seen from the examples presented. So... Something along along the lines of... In the concluding section of this research, the irregularity of imis´s place within a sentence, in other words that it does not only come after a predicate, that it can come after other elements of a sentence and in order to emphasize an important or new point in this sentence can be seen from the examples presented. How did i do?    It is correct but i think there is no need for and in the sentence. But you are native if you say so it is so.

Thread: Translation from Turkish to English-some confusion...

3621.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jul 2011 Tue 10:15 pm Quoting London2012 My attempt at a slightly longer sentence... Araştırma sonucunda imiş ´in cümledeki yerinin değişkenliği , yani sadece yüklemden sonra değil, cümlenin başka unsurlarından sonra da gelebildiği ve bunun cümledeki önemli veya yeni bilgiyi vurgulamak için yapıldığı örneklerle gösterilmiştir. 1) Araştırma sonucunda=In the concluding section of this reseach 2)imiş ´in cümledeki yerinin değişkenliği=the irregularity of imis´s place within a sentence 3) yani sadece yüklemden sonra değil=in other words that it does not only come after a predicate 4) that it come come after other elements of a sentence and in order to emphasize an important or new point in this sentence 5) yapıldığı örneklerle gösterilmiştir. can be seen from the examples presented. So... Something along along the lines of... In the concluding section of this research, the irregularity of imis´s place within a sentence, in other words that it does not only come after a predicate, that it can come after other elements of a sentence and in order to emphasize an important or new point in this sentence can be seen from the examples presented. How did i do?    It is correct but i think there is no need for and in the sentence. But you are native if you say so it is so.

Thread: Translation from Turkish to English-some confusion...

3622.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jul 2011 Tue 10:14 pm   Quoting London2012 My attempt at a slightly longer sentence... Araştırma sonucunda imiş ´in cümledeki yerinin değişkenliği , yani sadece yüklemden sonra değil, cümlenin başka unsurlarından sonra da gelebildiği ve bunun cümledeki önemli veya yeni bilgiyi vurgulamak için yapıldığı örneklerle gösterilmiştir. 1) Araştırma sonucunda=In the concluding section of this reseach 2)imiş ´in cümledeki yerinin değişkenliği=the irregularity of imis´s place within a sentence 3) yani sadece yüklemden sonra değil=in other words that it does not only come after a predicate 4) that it come come after other elements of a sentence and in order to emphasize an important or new point in this sentence 5) yapıldığı örneklerle gösterilmiştir. can be seen from the examples presented. So... Something along along the lines of... In the concluding section of this research, the irregularity of imis´s place within a sentence, in other words that it does not only come after a predicate, that it can come after other elements of a sentence and in order to emphasize an important or new point in this sentence can be seen from the examples presented. How did i do?            It is correct but i think there is no need for and in the sentence. But you are native if you say so it is so.

Thread: Eng to Turk please..

3623.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jul 2011 Mon 04:49 pm   Quoting 12skipafew Hi guys, can any of you help me with this lutfen. It would be a great help!!     It is still early days but if it is meant to be it will be. We may not feel ready for this right now but everything will soon fall into place. Daha erken sayılır ama olacaksa olacaktır. Bunun için şimdi hazır hissetmiyor olabiliriz ama herşey yakında yerli yerine oturacak. I have been so confused and scared this past few days. But I feel that with you I can do anything. I know it is not ideal but we will do what we have to. Şu son günlerde kafam çok karışıktı ve korkuyordum. Ama seninle herşeyin üstesinden gelebileceğimi hissediyorum. Çok ideal olmadığını biliyorum ama yapmamız gereken neyse yapacağız. We cannot worry about our families. It will be a shock for them too, but in time they will come to terms with it and support us. Ailelerimiz hakkında endişelenemeyiz. Onlar için de bu bir şok olacak ama zamanla toparlanacaklar ve bizi destekleyecekler. Please don´t worry anymore and don´t be angry. Trust me, I understand how you are feeling. Now I am just asking you to be there for me and support me. You are the only person I could imagine doing this with. You´re my everything. Lütfen artık üzülme ve sinirlenme. Bana güven; nasıl hissettiğini biliyorum. Şimdi senden yanımda olmanı ve beni desteklemeni istiyorum. Bunu birlikte yapabileceğimizi hayal edebileceğim tek insan sensin. Sen benim herşeyimsin.

Thread: Translation from Turkish to English-some confusion...

3624.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jul 2011 Mon 04:42 pm   Quoting London2012 Dear all,   I am currently trying to translate an article on the Turkish Cypriot dialect from Turkish to English and by doing so have accumulated a number of questions. i am currently trying to tranlsate the following sentence and was wondering if anybody could offer any help/advice/tips etc.. Bu araştırmada imek fiilinin -miş eki almış varyantı olan imiş ´in Kıbrıs ağızlarındaki kullanılışı üzerinde durulmuştur.   My attempt: When translating I have been taught to work backwards. so.. 1) durulmuştur=focus 2)üzerinde= on/about 3) kullanılış=this belongs with  imiş ´in. So.. the usage of imiş 4) Kıbrıs ağızlarındaki=in the Cypriot dialect. 5) olan= subject participle=which 6) varyant-ı= this possessive belongs to imek fiilinin..So.. a variant/variation of the imek verb´s 7) -miş eki almış =replacement of the -miş suffix. 8) In this research   So we have...   In this research, the focus is on the usage of the imiş in the Cypriot dialect which is a variation of the imek verb which has taken the -miş suffix   Any good??       Edited (7/18/2011) by gokuyum London2012 liked this message

Thread: I know its not a translation resquest

3625.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jul 2011 Mon 04:40 pm http://www.canpare.net/sarki-turku-sozleri/79041-ummet-celik-sarkilari.html

Thread: t-e please

3626.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Jul 2011 Tue 11:59 am   Quoting Adam25 so which is it?  streams eat fleas or fleas eat streams?  first one makes more sense (if you can call it sense!)   Fleas eat you. Streams and fleas are rhymed and only reason of being streams in this sentence is it.

Thread: t-e please

3627.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Jul 2011 Tue 02:24 am   Quoting sesese Can someone please tell me what this means? I dont have a clue! Thanks in advance! Quote: Add quoted text here   oy dereler dereler yesin seni pireler this is an meaningless but rhymed sentence. oh streams streams, may fleas eat you.   sesese liked this message

Thread: From Lesson Beginner3, Sec 5. Past tense-Kötü bir gün

3628.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jul 2011 Sun 07:01 pm   Quoting Mavili Maybe a true native Turkish speaker would have known about hidden suffixes all his/her life But someone who is still learning? At some point I should really try and find a way to attend classes for Turkish. Maybe I would start to learn about things like this and remember them If you want I can help you. You can find my msn adress in my profile. This way I can also practise my English. I don´t have any opportunity to speak English

Thread: From Lesson Beginner3, Sec 5. Past tense-Kötü bir gün

3629.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jul 2011 Sun 06:30 pm   Quoting Mavili Thank you Gokuyum.The lesson sentence appears to be slightly wrong then? I would not have known to apply -dır after insan. The exercise should have had that already there. Also I had only known nasıl as meaning "how". and didn´t know that it could be used to say "what kind". There still seems to be so many little things about Turkish I am missing out on.         The sentence is not wrong. We usually don´t use "dır". But we know there is a hidden "dır(dir,dur,dür)" at the end of verbs.With these suffixes you can make a noun a verb. "Nasıl" can also mean "what kind of" in Turkish. Exact equivalent of "what kind of" in Turkish is "ne tür" by the way. But we use it for animals and things.   Edited (7/10/2011) by gokuyum Edited (7/10/2011) by gokuyum Edited (7/10/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: What is the difference?

3630.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jul 2011 Sun 12:48 pm   Quoting Sweet_Paradise so if i want to say that for example as a hobby i read the newspaper is it better to use gazeteyi okurum or gazeteyi okuyorum?   I read newspaper every day. Ben her gün gazete okurum. Ben her gün gazete okuyorum. Both has same meaning. But if you don´t use "every day". It is better to use present tense. I read newspaper. Ben gazete okurum. But I must say without "her gün" meaning is obscure. Edited (7/10/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: Şimdiki zaman negative-Looking For Sentence Corrections pls

3631.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jul 2011 Sun 12:42 pm   Quoting Mavili     Thanks Henry! but now I am confused  Ok I see my mistake in the first sentence. However Is that one correctly written? I was confused because the original sentence seems to be in a wrong order and used "gelecek". Shouldn´t it be "Ben bu hafta Istanbul´a gidiyorum" ? Which makes its negative form "ben bu hafta Istanbul´a gitmiyorum"   If not, why can you have the verb phrase before an expression of time?  Ben gelecek hafta İstanbul´a gitmiyorum. It means I will not go to İstanbul next week. We can use simple continous tense in this sentence because "gelecek hafta (next week)" has already given sentence future tense meaning.

Thread: From Lesson Beginner3, Sec 5. Past tense-Kötü bir gün

3632.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jul 2011 Sun 12:34 pm   Quoting Mavili Find it hard to answer questions 7 and 8 because ı am not sure of the context which the sentences are used. Also, those questions don´t seem to be covered in the paragraph which is provided. (written exactly as they appear in the lesson) Sizce Ali nasıl bir insan(dır)? What kind of a person is Ali in your opinion? Sizce Ali´nin otomobilinde neden benzin yok? Why is there no gas in Ali´s car in your opinion?   Unless they are supposed to be opinion questions?

Thread: how to say

3633.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jul 2011 Sun 12:27 pm   Quoting deli whats the point. please   We say simply "yani?" But if you don´t use this expression right after the sentence whose point you want to know it can be obscure. Then you can ask "amaç ne?" "neyi anlatmak istiyorsun?" deli liked this message

Thread: Turkish tutor

3634.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jul 2011 Fri 07:25 pm   Quoting Henry I also wish you luck with your learning. I agree that the best way to progress, after a certain point, is to spend time in Turkey, if you haven´t got a Turkish friend to help you locally. You also need to practise listening ( which can be achieved with movies) and speaking, which is also obviously a very important part. I have found the livemocha.com site useful for some aspects of learning, and if you are selective with friends (ie pick Turkish native speakers who are thorough with helping and correcting homework) you will probably improve some more. As with any free site, there are lots of pests and opportunists, but be extra vigilant with selecting ´friends´ and report spam and pests to get them removed or blocked. I can help you. I did my master´s degree on Turish teaching and  also want to practise my English. If you are interested you should know that my English is not brilliant. If anybody want to practice Turkish they can add me to their msn.   Edited (7/8/2011) by gokuyum Edited (7/8/2011) by gokuyum ayse-eski liked this message

Thread: T to E please

3635.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Jul 2011 Thu 11:16 pm   Quoting dancerdee vicudum kurşun kadar ağır!   I tried to figure it out, but all I got was: ________bullet so heavy??? Please help. thanks   My body is as heavy as lead. It means "I am too tired to move." Edited (7/7/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

3636.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Jul 2011 Thu 02:00 pm   Quoting Abla Thank you for the corrections, gokuyum. I bet all those lexical faults sound funny but I´m not so worried about them. There is one grammar mistake which makes me angry but maybe it´s better not to mention it...maybe there is someone who doesn´t notice. Tense faults are very hard to correct: I try to choose them using all my knowledge but still make wrong decisions. What it takes, I guess, is more reading and listening. A couple of notes: - Is var/değil olduk wrong in every situation or in this case specifically? It is wrong in every situation. Here is another example: Mutlu değil olduğunu söyledi. (wrong) Mutlu olmadığını söyledi. (correct)   - Why batacak but gidecek? Bitecek or bidecek? Yatacak or yadacak? Most of the monosyllabic verbs don´t obey this rule. "gitmek" obeys "but "batmak" doesn´t." "bitmek" and "yatmak" also don´t obey. If I were you I wouldn´t soften the wovels of monosyllabic verbs if I wasn´t sure.       Edited (7/7/2011) by gokuyum Edited (7/7/2011) by gokuyum basima liked this message

Thread: A Few Sentences, Vol. II

3637.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Jul 2011 Thu 12:21 am   A scorpion, being a very poor swimmer, asked a turtle to carry him on his back across the river. “Are you mad?” exclaimed the turtle. “You’ll sting me while I’m swimming and I’ll drown.”  “My dear turtle,” laughed the scorpion, “if I were to sting you, you would drown and I would go down with you. Now where is the logic in that?” “You’re right!” said the turtle. “Hop on!” The scorpion climbed aboard and halfway across the river gave the turtle a mighty sting. As they both sank to the bottom, the turtle resignedly said: “Do you mind if I ask you something? You said there’d be lo logic in your stinging me. Why did you do it?” “It has nothing to do with logic,” the drowning scorpion sadly replied. “It’s just my character.”  Here are the minimum corrections. (I didn´t touch everywhere) Bir akrep, kendinin kötü bir yüzücü olduğu için, bir kaplumbağanın kaplumbağadan onu bir ırmağın başka  öbür kıyısına sırtının üzerinde taşımasını rica etmiş. Kaplumbağa  -  Deli misin?  -  diye bağırmış.  -  Ben yüzüyorken senin beni sokmasınla sokmanla boğulacağım  boğulurum. Akrep  - Canım Kaplumbağa canım  - diyerek gülmüş.  -  Seni sokacaksam sokarsam sen suda boğulurkenken seninle de  birlikte ben de aşağı gideceğim batarım. Bunun mantığı nerede? Kaplumbağa  -  Haklısın!  -  demiş.  -  Haydi bin! Akrep binip ırmağın yarı yolunda kaplumbağayı güçlü bir şekilde sokmuş sokma vermiş. Kaplumbağa ikisinin ikisi de ırmağın dibine batacak olduğundan boyun eğip  -  Bir şey sorarsam olur mu? Senin beni sokmasında sokmanda sokmanda mantık  değil olduğunu olmadığını dedin. Onu Peki niye yaptın?  -  demiş. Suda boğulan akrep  -  Bunun mantık ile hiç bir ilişkisi yok  -  cevabını üzüntüyle vermiş.  -  O Bu sadece benim yaratılışıımdır.   İmpressing try. Edited (7/7/2011) by gokuyum basima liked this message

Thread: How would you say...

3638.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Jul 2011 Wed 11:48 pm   Quoting bayan_güleç Merhabalar!   I was just wondering, in Turkish, how would you say: Every word has 100 meanings.   Could it be: Her sözü 100 tanımı var. ??? Or maybe: Her söz için 100 tanımı var. ??? Or maybe something completely different?   Teşekkürler for any input! Her sözün yüz anlamı var.   tunci liked this message

Thread: Dutch approve ban on religious animal slaughter, Muslims, Jews outraged

3639.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Jul 2011 Wed 02:48 am   Quoting bydand     I don´t think you can compare a small nick with a razor to the massive trauma experienced by these animals. Lets face it there is not a pleasant way of killing an animal.      Can´t we kill them with sleeping pills? So at least they won´t suffer.

Thread: Pamuk to pay compensation for Armenian, Kurdish remarks

3640.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Jul 2011 Tue 12:18 pm here are the facts: 1-Everybody has a right to express what he thinks or feel. So Pamuk shouldn´t pay any money. 2- Pamuk is not a historian and the numbers he mentioned can be incorrect. 3- I also think he made such a statement to get Nobel Prize. I don´t think he is sincere. 4- Pamuk is not a bad author. "My Name Is Red" deserves Nobel Prize by itself. 5- There are better authors than Pamuk such as Oğuz Atay, Yaşar Kemal, Yusuf Atılgan Edited (7/5/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: e to t

3641.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Jul 2011 Mon 09:58 pm   Quoting ayse-eski I am so happy that Oguz is having so many visits. I hope you guys have a great time in Samsun, tell him I miss him, and I am counting down the days to see him. You are very sweet, thanks for remember about me again. many kisses   Oğuz´un bu kadar çok ziyarette bulunmasndan çok mutluyum. Umarım Samsun´da harika vakit geçirirsiniz. Ona onu özlediğimi söyle. Onu göreceğim günleri sayıyorum. Çok şekersin. Beni tekrar hatrladığın için teşekkürler. Öpücükler. ayse-eski liked this message

Thread: turkish to english please!!:)

3642.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Jul 2011 Mon 12:09 am   Quoting emsypooh Bende canim seni cok seviyorum birde unutmaki benim 1 tane kız arkadasim var o sensin benim gozum senden baska hic bir kızı gormuyor bebegim sen karadereyi biliyormusun   pleaseee i undersatnd the seviyorum bit but after that translation confuses me!! thank u   I love you too honey. And don´t forget I have only one girl friend and she is you. My eyes  only see you baby. Do you know Karadere?

Thread: mı/mu

3643.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jul 2011 Sun 10:00 pm   Quoting Mavili     I hope this question is related, I dont meant to "threadjack" Essentially I am asking if you use the same suffix -mi to ask both "Does he?" or "Is he?" or  Refering to personal interrogative question tags (-miyim?, -misin?, -mi?, miyiz?, etc) lets say you wanted to write for example; "Does he swim everyday?" Would that be "O her gün yüzer mi? " ? Now would you use the same suffix as if you were saying "Is he swiming everyday?" Though after consideration, both sentences can mean basically the same thing in English.  Does he swim everyday? O her gün yüzer mi? Is he swimming everyday? O her gün yüzüyor mu?

Thread: Bağlaçlar

3644.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Jul 2011 Fri 11:53 pm   Quoting MrsBee HALBUKİ What does "halbuki" mean? Can you please use it in a couple of sentences? Thanks. Halbuki means but, however, whereas.   Niçin şarkı söylemiyorsun? Halbuki sesin çok güzel. Why don´t you sing? Whereas your voice is so beautiful.   MrsBee and Mavili liked this message

Thread: Necessity in the past

3645.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Jul 2011 Fri 11:47 pm   Quoting Abla  I am confused about the past necessitative. First of all, there seem to be two tense signs in the same word: Gitmeliydim. Do -meli- and -di- refer to the same situation or has one of them something to do with the truth of the situation? I mean is it translated 1. ´I had to go´ or 2. ´I must have gone´?   Both of them are possible.

Thread: E to T

3646.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jun 2011 Thu 03:36 pm   Quoting Inscrutable Burada son gun çalşmak. It is my last day of work here.   Thank You   Bugün benim burada son çalışma günüm.

Thread: T to E

3647.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jun 2011 Thu 03:31 pm   Quoting MarioninTurkey    Agree.   Gökuyum which would be more usual to use: Hatırlamasam or Hatırlamayayım     Hatırlamasam is a wish, hatırlamayayım is a will. But hatırlamayayım can also be used as an order. Because we don´t have an imperative mood for "ben" in Turkish.

Thread: Intermediate exercises to correct

3648.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jun 2011 Wed 08:59 pm   Quoting Faruk Yes, could be. But I prefer future tense... I don´t think it is a real problem. Beniim kulağıma geniş zaman daha hoş geldi valla Ama daha önce  bu konu hakkında hiç düşünmemiştim. İyi günler.   Edited (6/29/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: Intermediate exercises to correct

3649.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jun 2011 Wed 08:49 pm   Quoting Faruk According to the grammar used in this exercise, gokuyum´s answers are correct. According to general grammar rules here are the answers:   1. ... 2. doğru 3. iyileşir gibi oldu - iyileşecek gibi oldu 4. doğru 5. doğru 6. doğru 7. doğru 8. anlar gibi oldum - anlayacak gibi oldum 9. doğru 10. doğru 11. doğru - (or, gitmiş gibi oluyorum) 12. doğru 13. doğru 14. doğru 15. doğru 16. doğru 17. doğru 18. doğru 19. doğru 20. doğru Faruk I think to prefer using present tense is less problematic than using future tense. But I also wonder the opinions of scalpel and tunci. I am not sure which one is better gramatically. But as I said I would prefer present tense in most cases.   Edited (6/29/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: Intermediate exercises to correct

3650.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jun 2011 Wed 08:24 pm My answers:   1- görür gibi oluyorum 2- düşer gibi oldu 3- iyileşir gibi oldu 4- correct 5- ağrır gibi oldu 6- uyur gibi oldum 7- correct 8- correct 9- görür/görmüş gibi olursun 10- kabarır gibi oldu 11- correct 12- correct 13- çıkar gibi oldu 14- kesilir gibi oldu 15- gelir gibi oldu 16- correct 17- correct 18- correct 19-söyleyecek gibi oluyorsun 20- correct Edited (6/29/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: Intermediate exercises to correct

3651.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jun 2011 Wed 08:02 pm You have to use present tense instead of future tense in these exercises (not everywhere). Future tense is also meaningful but it seems sometimes weird. Sometimes  present and future are both okay. In a few examples present seems weird. To prefer present is better.   Example: Onu görür gibi oldum. (correct) Onu görecek gibi oldum (weird) Edited (6/29/2011) by gokuyum Edited (6/29/2011) by gokuyum Edited (6/29/2011) by gokuyum Edited (6/29/2011) by gokuyum Edited (6/29/2011) by gokuyum Edited (6/29/2011) by gokuyum MrsBee liked this message

Thread: Intermediate exercises to correct

3652.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jun 2011 Wed 03:29 pm   Quoting Henry     ..... and I checked the questions (yada) .... and I corrected your answers  (daha iyi)   Thank you Henry.   Henry liked this message

Thread: Intermediate exercises to correct

3653.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jun 2011 Wed 03:22 pm   Quoting Henry Sadly I can only read the words from numbers 19 to 24, as the resolution on the other questions is too poor. Can anyone else see this completely clearly? I can see and I controlled the questions.

Thread: What is the difference?

3654.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jun 2011 Wed 03:21 pm we generally use simple continous tense instead of simple present tense.

Thread: Intermediate exercises to correct

3655.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jun 2011 Wed 03:17 pm 5- correct 6- kilitler olduk 7- correct 8- correct 9- correct 10- correct 11- correct 12- correct 13- correct 14- yemez oldu 15- correct 16- correct 17- correct 18- correct 19- anlaşılmış oldu 20- correct 21- correct 22- correct 23- correct 24- konuşuyor oldum 25- correct 26- correct 27- correct     very good. Edited (6/29/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: Hayko Cepkin - Sandık

3656.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jun 2011 Tue 07:25 pm   Quoting Butterrly Yes, the song is very sad but beautiful. I also listened to it on youtube. It was interesting hearing the sound of the words as I have only just started to try to learn Turkish   Great you have a good taste

Thread: Aşkın İçimde Rüya

3657.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jun 2011 Tue 07:13 pm söyleşmek means "to chat" Martin and Nuraa-xo liked this message

Thread: Please E to T my friends! It´s very important for me!

3658.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jun 2011 Tue 07:06 pm   Quoting Brian_Hernandez Hello my friends, I´m a new user in this great site and I would like to ask you for your help with this speech, it´s a surprise I want to give to my turkish girlfriend... I tried to do it on my own but my level is too low and I know it´s a disaster So this is:   You’ll be immortal in me! You seduced me . You seduced me in just an instant In a dark, gray evening of winter In which I had no choice but to adore you Because you already reigned in my dreams.   Bende ölümsüz olacaksın   Beni baştan çkardın. Beni bir anda baştan çıkardın. Karanlık, gri bir kış akşamı Ki sana tapmaktan başka bir şansımın olmadığı. Çünkü çoktan rüyalarımda egemenliğini kurdun.   You just showed up. You just showed up suddenly, adorning all my senses As a massive eruption of faith that resonated within me Crystallizing the sea of ​​dreams living in my dull mind Dull as the star that is dying out, losing all its glory.   And you changed me. Into a romantic and dreamer man, Juggler of  illusions, Lover of the love, and faithful slave of the passions.   You accompanied me. You accompanied me since then in times of pain, In the bitter sorrows and fruitful  joys, In the beautiful and sublime moments of love, In the metamorphosis of my being and its immense fantasies. Sometimes I thought I didn’t love you, I think that´s when I realised I adored you May my eyes be eclipsed and overshadowed, but I’m afraid That you´ll stay in my life. A real blessing... Was your arrival and to meet you, It was a miracle to know you´d be mine forever, May my voice be silent and my hands unable to move; But your love will be safe in my heart ... unfading abide in me forever.   Very grateful I write these lines to you As the earth in drought thanks to the rain its arrival We may separate by the time that God decides, But you will be immortal in me, dear girl of mine!   Thanks in advance!   A little long. I translated first part. Scalpel can translate the rest if you ask him   Edited (6/28/2011) by gokuyum Brian_Hernandez liked this message

Thread: T to E

3659.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jun 2011 Tue 06:54 pm   Quoting MarioninTurkey     I think you forgot the letter "z"  Hatırlarsam = If I remember Hatırlamazsam = If I don´t remember Unutmazsam = If I don´t forget Unutmazsan = If you don´t forget here the difference: Hatırlamasam - May I not remember. (wish) Hatrlamazsam - If  I don´t remember

Thread: Christians are more militant than Muslims

3660.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jun 2011 Sun 05:54 pm     Edited (6/26/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: Christians are more militant than Muslims

3661.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jun 2011 Sun 08:48 am Which one is wilder? Tiger or lion? Answer is both of them are equally wild. Edited (6/26/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: E To T urgent

3662.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jun 2011 Fri 11:58 pm   Quoting ayse-eski hello guys, my turkish bf is in army, and today is his Torem...I am not sure how to say that. But I wish I could tell him something  nice on this day, what can I tell him? Torem gunu kultu olsun ?=P this is the only thing I know... tesekkurler   Hayırlı törenler

Thread: tr to eng please (just 2 words)

3663.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jun 2011 Fri 11:56 pm   Quoting carla1982 hi please can someone translate the following   Fazla grsmiyoruz?   thanks We don´t meet often

Thread: Hayko Cepkin - Sandık

3664.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jun 2011 Fri 11:54 pm   Quoting Butterrly Hello gokuyum Please see the changes I have made to this song which I hope you will be happy with - this is not an attempt at translation. I have just removed some words that are not needed in this English version, replaced one word with another and amended the word ´lost´ with the correct word ´loss´. Butterfly   Hayko Cepkin - The Chest May the chest be opened, may this heart rest from now on Even I rain from the sky every day as becoming a stone Even I rain from the sky every day, becoming like a stone My heart doesn´t know what is what when it is stone to itself My heart doesn´t know what is what when it is stone itself Education starts from the tongue It sweet-talks only for the sake of every believer My gift is stars They will go away for you to see the every day They will go away for you to see every day You rotted me eternally before burying I always search for a remedy for my sorrows; this heart is desperate. Every birth  is a festival Every lost is a ruin, a torture. Every loss is a ruin, a torture.     Thank you for the corrections. Did you like the song?

Thread: Hayko Cepkin - Sandık

3665.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jun 2011 Fri 05:08 am Hayko Cepkin - Sandık Sandik açilsin dinlensin artik bu yürek, Tas olup yagsamda hergün, Nedir bilmez kalbim tasken kendine, Dilden baslar terbiye, Dil döker her kulun hatrina sade, Yildizlardir hediyem, Alir basini her gününü gör diye, Çürüttünüz gömmeden ebedi, Derde derman arar Dururum bu yürek biçare, Her dogus bir bayram olur, Her kayip bir yikiktir bir eziyet.   Hayko Cepkin - The Chest May the chest be opened, may this heart rest from now on Even I rain from the sky every day  becoming a stone My heart doesn´t know what is what when it is stone  itself Education starts from the tongue It sweet-talks only for the sake of every believer My gift is stars They will go away for you to see  every day You rotted me eternally  before burying I always search for a remedy for my sorrows; this heart is desperate. Every birth  is a festival Every loss is a ruin, a torture.   Note: corrections needed   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWP8b02Lj0g  I can listen this song 100 times every day. Edited (6/24/2011) by gokuyum Edited (6/24/2011) by gokuyum Edited (6/24/2011) by gokuyum Edited (6/24/2011) by gokuyum Edited (6/25/2011) by gokuyum Edited (6/25/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: Please I need help to translate my favorite song from E to T

3666.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jun 2011 Fri 04:07 am   Quoting Butterrly Gokuyum   Please don´t take this as any criticism of your translation, it was not meant in that way.   Don´t worry I understand you perfectly.

Thread: Broken Hearts Club

3667.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jun 2011 Fri 03:49 am A quote from the legendary movie "The Crow"   Eric Draven: Can´t rain all the time...   Me: Still rains.... Edited (6/24/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: Translation Attempts

3668.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jun 2011 Fri 03:30 am   Quoting Mavili Native Turkish speakers are not changing the words just to make it "sound better" when they correct someone. Don´t forget they are native speakers, have grown up exposed to family and friends  and other native Türkish speakers, learned it in school, and fromTV, Radio and life in Turkey. Also one has to remember that while Turkish is a phoenetical language, it also can´t always be translated to/from English verbatim. So when they do suggest a different way of saying or writing, its because that way is how to "think" in Turkish of how to say or write it, as sentence structure is different than in English. Just a thought. Please correct my English when i do a mistake and trust me completely when i correct your mistakes. There is no reason to get offended.Actually we should be happy. Being corrected can upset some people but learning the language better should always come first. Eventhough i get very high results from English tests, I still don´t trust my English. I think too much Turkish and my grammer is not brilliant. I accept this and still want to do my best.   Inscrutable and Henry liked this message

Thread: Turkish to English please, many thanks

3669.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jun 2011 Fri 02:52 am   Quoting deli      what will you do for me   Im poor   my try Im poor   oh deli it is the opposite   what will you do with me I am poor   He says that he will be a bother to her.   Note: Don´t worry! I sent the correct translation to her Edited (6/24/2011) by gokuyum Edited (6/24/2011) by gokuyum Edited (6/24/2011) by gokuyum Edited (6/24/2011) by gokuyum Edited (6/24/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: ALL-TIME BEST NOVELS

3670.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jun 2011 Fri 02:45 am   Quoting barba_mama I understand it, it´s just not my taste. I like to read a book for my pleasure. If going through it seems like a battle, I don´t want to read it anymore "My name is Red" was on the list of my book club, but didn´t even finish it yet. I put it somewhere in a corner and just waited for the next book to come along   In my opinion "My Name Is Red" is his best book. It is easy to read and very enjoying. If you didn´t like this never open the cover of "Black Book". I finished it and lost my sanity Edited (6/24/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: ALL-TIME BEST NOVELS

3671.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jun 2011 Fri 02:40 am   Quoting yilgun-2010 THE TOP 50 BOOKS OF ALL TİME THE MOST INFLUENTIAL BOOKS (NOVEL, STORY, PLAY, POETRY, ESSAY) FOR YOUR HOME LIBRARY  Here are the ones i read and failed to read i put a r(ead) and a f(ailed) near them please do so and lets compare our tastes. 1-Anna Karenina by Leo Tolstoy, Russia 2-Madame Bovary by Gustave Flaubert, france  r 3-War and Peace by Leo Tolstoy, Russia 4-The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain, United States 5-Hamlet by William Shakespeare, England r 6-Selected Poems by William Shakespeare, England 7-Selected Stories by Anton P.Chekhov, Russia 8-Selected Stories by Sait Faik, Türkiye 9-The Stranger by Albert Camus, France r 10-The Metamorphosis by Franz Kafka, Czechoslovakia r 11-Selected stories and poems of Edgar Allan Poe, United States r 12-Ulyses by James Joyce, Ireland f 13-War and Peace by Leo Tolstoy, Russia 14-Dead Souls by Nikolai Gogol, Russia 15-The Government Inspector by Nikolai Gogol, Russia 16-Gone With the Wind by Ernest Hemingway, United States 17-The Sun Also Rises by Ernest Hemingway, United States 18-Animal Firm by George Orwell, England r 19-Les Miserables by Victor Hugo, France 20-The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck, United States 21-In Dubious Battle by John Steinbeck, United States 22-Trilogy, Molloy, Malone Dies, The Unnamable by Samuel Beckett, Ireland 23-The Sound and the Fury by William Faulkner, United States f 24-The Wall –Le mur - by Jean-Paul Sartre, France r 25-Anna Karenina by Leo Tolstoy, Russia 26-The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor M.Dostoyevsky, Russia r 27-Crime and Punishment by Fyodor M.Dostoyevsky, Russia r 28-Don Quixote by Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Spain r 29-Essays by Michel de Montaigne, France r (some of them) 30-Guliver Travels by Jonathan Swift, Ireland 31-Victoria by Knut Hamsun, Norway 32-Madame Bovary by Gustave Flaubert, France r 33-One Hundred years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Maquez, Colombia f 34-Codin by Panait Istrati, Romania 35-The Ports of the Levant by Amin Maalouf,  Lebanon 36-Ağrıdağı Efsanesi (The Ararat Legend) by Yaşar Kemal, Türkiye r 37-Aylak Adam (The Loiterer) by Yusuf Atılgan, Türkiye r 38-İlköğretmen- The Primary Teacher by Cengiz Aymatov, Kyrgyzstan r 39-The Waste Land by T.S.Eliot, United States 40-Selected stories by Maxim Gorky, Russia 41- The Golden Notebook by Doris Lessing, England 42- Le Petit Prince by Antoine de Saint-Exupery, france r 43- Adolphe by Benjamin Constant, Switzerland 44- Herzog by Saul Bellow, Canada 45- An American tragedy by Theodore Dreiser, United States 46- Beloved by Toni Morrison, United States 47- Timbuktu by  Paul Auster, United States 48- The Waves by Viginia Wolf, England 49- Oil  by Upton Sinclair, United States 50- The Power and the Glory by  Graham Green, England                                                                                                     Enjoy your readings     Edited (6/24/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: Please I need help to translate my favorite song from E to T

3672.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jun 2011 Fri 02:21 am   Quoting CHiZZY SOMETHING NEW IN MY LIFE (lyrics) Haytımda Yeni Bir Şey by: Stephen Bishop i guess i wanted something new in my life a new key to fit a new door to wake and see a different view in my life the one i´ve been waiting for Sanırım hayatımda yeni bir şey istedim yeni bir kapıya uyan yeni bir anahtar. Uyanmak ve hayatımda o beklediğim yeni manzarayı görmek   dreams like everyone i´ve had a few in my life who knew that this one would come true in my lfe i knew the moment when you touched me you touched me   Benim de herkes gibi birkaç hayalim oldu Kim bilirdi onlar gerçek olacaktı Bana dokunduğun anı bildim Bana dokundun you´re like a sudden breeze that blew in my life a new face, a new smile, new song and now i know i wanted you in my life all along Hayatımda esen ani bir meltem gibisin yeni bir yüz, yeni bir gülüş, yeni bir şarkı ve şimdi biliyorum ki seni hayatımda hep istedim i guess, i must have saved an empty place in my heart for you to come and fill this space in my heart that long before i said i loved you i love you Sanırım senin için kalbimde boş bir yer ayırmalıydım Gelmen ve o boşluğu doldurman için Seni sevdiğimi söylemeden çok önce Seni seviyorum. whatever happens this is true in my life when all the springs have come and gone whatever dance i made or do in my life whatever else that i may do in my life you´ll always be something new in my life from now on Ne olursa olsun bu bir gerçek hayatımda Tüm baharlar gelip geçtiğinde Hangi dansı yapmış ya da etmişsem ve her neyi yapma ihtimalim varsa sen hayatımda herzaman yeni bir şey olacaksın bundan böyle i know there always will be you in my life from now on... Biliyorum hayatımda hep sen olacaksın Bundan böyle. Çok teşekkur ederim I translated it but i want you to know that to translate a poem or a song to another language is to kill it.

Thread: How is ...ing constructed in these cases?

3673.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jun 2011 Fri 01:52 am   Quoting beaton30 I saw you walking Seni yürürken gördüm. I heard the man laughing Adamı  gülerken duydum. I watched them eating Onları, yerken izledim.   Thanks     beaton30 liked this message

Thread: Small Eng to Turk

3674.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jun 2011 Wed 08:54 pm   Quoting canimarab Once fear is instilled its hard to ever be fearless.   Thank you in advance.   Bir kez korku içine işledi mi bir daha korkusuz olmak zordur.

Thread: T to E pls

3675.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Jun 2011 Tue 10:43 pm   Quoting dancerdee thanks everyone for the help, I now understand the explanation, but am still a little confused by the examples. is it bende de param yok or benim de param yok  for I too have no money   Bende de para yok. There is no money on me too. Benim de param yok. I have no money too. Edited (6/21/2011) by gokuyum Henry liked this message

Thread: Yok artık - Rapidshare banned

3676.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Jun 2011 Tue 08:39 pm   Quoting si++     Probably more. I have noticed rapidshare as I use it mostly.   Use torrent sites.

Thread: turkish to english please

3677.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Jun 2011 Tue 08:31 pm   Quoting MarioninTurkey      You are the one whose dream I live when you are not here and who makes me live my dreams when you are here.   Or:  You are the one I dream of when you are not here and who makes me live my dreams when you are here. Your Turkish is excellent. When did you start to learn Turkish?   Edited (6/21/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: Passive of koymak

3678.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Jun 2011 Tue 08:15 pm Koyulmak has also a meaning such as "to begin". İşe koyulmak means to begin to work. Yola koyulmak means to begin to go. Edited (6/21/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: Passive of koymak

3679.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Jun 2011 Tue 08:05 pm   Quoting Abla How to create passive form of koymak? I´m looking for something like ´to be put, to be placed´. In my thinking it should be koyulmak, but the dictionary insists it means ´to begin´ etc. Do I have to use another stem?   It is koyulmak as you said. Here is an example: Sandalye mutfağa koyuldu. The chair was put into kitchen.

Thread: ne demek

3680.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Jun 2011 Tue 08:00 pm   Quoting deli ha ha ok scalpel here is the next one sen ne (laftan) anlamaz insansin ne demek It is something like "what a stubborn person you are"   Edited (6/21/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: E to T please

3681.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Jun 2011 Tue 05:21 pm   Quoting nifrtity I hope to talk with you surely I was entered every day to Facebook but i didnt find you may be we are entered in a different times in any way i hope to meet you in facebook   Seninle konuşmayı tabiki umuyorum. Hergün Facebook´a girdim ama seni bulamadım. Belki de farklı zamanlarda girdik. Herneyse umarım facebook´ta buluşuruz. lateforfate liked this message

Thread: Reasons not go to military service - documentary about being gay

3682.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Jun 2011 Tue 05:10 pm   Quoting scalpel     Hadi ya!  I am not a gay. But i could claim so. I have obsessive compulsive dissorder and last place i want to be is army. But they will not accept my ilness as an excuse.

Thread: Reasons not go to military service - documentary about being gay

3683.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Jun 2011 Tue 05:07 pm   Quoting barba_mama First of all, I personally think that being gay is not some sort of mental illness which will prevent you from properly functioning in the army. The Dutch army has gay people in it, and it has never led to problem.   Being gay doesn´t prevent you from serving in the army.  You have a right not to serve in the army if you are gay. You have to prove it. If you dont want to prove you can do your military duty.   Secondly...really... No other way to prove that you are gay? I think that a conversation with a trained psychologist will be enough. I think it is just inhuman and against any basic human right to ask for men to provide pictures of their sexual actions, while smiling! As if being gay only has to do with sexual actions! I knew I was hetero sexual long before I had any sex. It´s crazy to approach this matter in this way.   In Turkey you could easily find a trained psychologist willing to approve that you are gay if you pay him enough money. I also don´t approve showing pornographic pictures as an evidence to prove that you are gay. But nobody force you to take such pictures. I think every people must have a right not to serve in millitary. This could solve the problem. I think it´s noticable that I get really upset about this It´s already hard for a lot of gay men in Turkey to come out of the closet for their sexuality, and than for some of them (luckily not all) to be subjected to this kind of behaviour is very sad.   I agree.

Thread: ne demek

3684.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Jun 2011 Tue 01:52 am   Quoting deli ben sevgimi disardi vurmam belli etmem   It means "I dont show my love." deli liked this message

Thread: Please help!!

3685.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Jun 2011 Tue 12:30 am   Quoting Debbie D I think I have upset my friend! He sent me a load of messages which I have tried to translate but I think I am missing out a lot. Could someone please help me with this: seni dövmek - think he´s going to beat me up (joke) correct çok kızgınım sana - he was very angry with me correct duşmu aldın sen? - closest I got was he was asking if I´d had a shower (really don´t think that´s right though!) Did you take a shower? çözemiyorsun demi - possibly something about also finding it difficult? You don´t solve/understand right? çok zor demi - again something about it being difficult (not sure what though - possibly communicating?) It is very difficult, right? hadi çık işin içinde - I got: come on out ray of light inside - probably totally wrong! Here find a solution now if you can. I am trying to learn but having difficulty conjugating my verbs. Any help would be gratefully received. Many thanks Debs

Thread: Reasons not go to military service - documentary about being gay

3686.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Jun 2011 Tue 12:25 am   Quoting barba_mama I just watched a documentary that really shocked me. As in basically all countries, you don´t have to go to military service in Turkey if you are good medical or psychological reasons why you are not fit. Apperently being gay is one of those reasons. The biggest shock was how people have to prove that they are gay. In some cases the men just had to talk to a judge, and this was evidence enough. In other cases photographic evidence was required. One man talked about how he had to show a picture of sharing a gay experience with a man. Basically a pornographic picture. The picture was denied as evidence because he didn´t smile enough. Sick sick sick... How can you make people prove that they are gay in such a way? I don´t approve this but is there another method to prove that you are gay?  Only claiming that you are gay without evidence can cause a lot of problems. Believe me lots of people would claim so in that situation. Even i could

Thread: T to E pls

3687.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Jun 2011 Tue 12:20 am   Quoting dancerdee Pls help with translation. I have figured out some but not all. thank you   Ayrılık özlem duygularını artırır kalbi sevgiyle doldurur!....   ... longing emotions, absence makes the heart grow fonder  (??) Separation increases longing emotions and fills heart with love.      Senin kalbin de öylemi?      In your heart? is that so? Is your heart so too?  evet benim kalbimde öyle!...    yes indeed in my heart Yes my heart is so too. onumuzdeki hafta Turkiye´deyim sen Istanbul´demisin hala bro?   next week, i´m in turkey, are you still in istanbul?? (correct)   Pls let me know what is correct and what is not. thanks. dancerdee

Thread: TURKISH NOVELS

3688.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 May 2011 Tue 04:06 pm "To" be or not "to" be?

Thread: E to T

3689.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 May 2011 Fri 09:33 pm "Görünüşe göre burada yalnızım" Edited (5/13/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: E to T

3690.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 May 2011 Fri 09:32 pm   Quoting Inscrutable Şimdi gitmem lazım beni için orada bir kimse bekliyor. I have to go there is someone waiting for me over there.   Thank You Gitmeliyim, orada beni bekleyen biri var.

Thread: turkish to english....please and thank you very much :)

3691.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 May 2011 Fri 09:29 pm bo as bööööö?

Thread: Asian women subjected to ´virginity tests´ at Heathrow

3692.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 May 2011 Fri 03:52 am It seems dark ages are still attractive for some westerners too. It is also a relief they didn´t burn the women accusing them of being a witch. Edited (5/13/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: Baldaki Tuz

3693.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 May 2011 Thu 12:12 am "Baldaki Tuz" is a book that contains some of Yaşar Kemal´s articles about politics of Turkey between 1960 and 1971. Here is a short translation of a part of his article which criticises Democrat Party. Date of the article is 1960.   "....Lets think about the period after 1945. Those who had opposed The Court Of Justice had such a beautiful and advenced democracy understanding at that time. They were always mentioning  human and citizens’ rights. A little bit later they suddenly changed. As if they were not the same people back in 1945-1950. They changed their skins like snakes. Human rights, democracy were just mere words for them. They didnt believe in justice, laws, human and citizens’ rights. They had no respect and faith for them. They were prisoning people who had first come to their minds and torturing them. They were holding them in the prisons of courts for two years. They were proudly harming intellectuals and journalists in front of the eyes of the public. Many people were tortured and rotted in prisons in their period. They did everything to make courts their slaves..."   Edited (5/5/2011) by gokuyum Edited (5/5/2011) by gokuyum Edited (5/5/2011) by gokuyum Edited (5/5/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: Absurd news from the Globe

3694.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Apr 2011 Mon 10:44 pm   Quoting barba_mama     Have you ever thought that perhaps Turks are to sensitive about Ataturk? He was a man, nothing more, nothing less. This is not a list about horrible people. It is a list about dictators who had a mustache. Simple. And Ataturk fits that discription. I think it is silly for the mass media to be angry about this list, like the first article said. I think it´s about time that people in Turkey start treating him like a human being instead of this untouchable god-like figure. I don´t think he was Hitler, I don´t think he was Stalin, but I do think he was a dictator with a mustache. Hm...perhaps it´s not even what I think, but an actual fact. Why does everybody have to treat Ataturk like you can´t state facts about him? For example, it´s a fact that Ataturk was something close to an alcoholic. But when I state this fact inside Turkish borders people get angry with me. Why?   1) Yes we are sensitive about Ataturk. He founded modern Turkey. He saved our country from being a mandate. 2) The dictators in the list such as Hitler, Stalin, Franco, Saddam Hüseyin were horrible people. So this list is about horrible people. 3) I agree Ataturk was a human being. But in the history of men there are many figures people take as a model or idol. I have many idols such as Spartacus, Leonidas, Che, Socrates, Rachel Corrie. Atatürk is also one of them. There is nothing wrong about it. Yes, he was a human but not an ordinary one. 4) As I said before dictatore word has only negative meanings today. So to call Atatürk as a dictatore is unfair. 5) I am never against facts. Ataturk was drinking too much alcohol. I agree with that. 6) People can get angry with you because when you think you are saying the facts maybe you are saying your personal thoughts that others don´t agree. Edited (4/4/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: Absurd news from the Globe

3695.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Apr 2011 Mon 08:12 am   Quoting barba_mama     Pfff... he was a dictator, he wore a mustache. That means he fits in the list. That the mass media is upset is just silly. The piece about him is nice, matching is mustache style with the stage he was in in his political life   Read it here: http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/03/30/stiff_upper_   Ataturk was not a Hitler or Stalin. He doesnt belong to that list. You can´t catogarize him this easily. He was a very unique person. If you want to learn more about him here is a very objective biography of him by Andrew Mango Edited (4/4/2011) by gokuyum Edited (4/4/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: E to T

3696.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Apr 2011 Sat 11:12 pm   Quoting deli why the heck cant I enter chattttttttttttt room   try again

Thread: E to T

3697.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Apr 2011 Sat 11:02 pm   Quoting deli      maybe olumlu durmalıyım   We dont say such a thing so i can´t translate it literally but it can be translated as "iyimserliğimi korumalıyım" deli liked this message

Thread: Murder of children renews debate over death penalty in Turkey

3698.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Apr 2011 Sat 06:24 pm   Quoting vineyards Turkish Minister for Industry and Trade casts light on the status of capital punishment. Below is translated from the online edition of daily Hurriyet. There is an obvious flaw with this train of thought which is imported from the EU. Even if someone is caught red handed, there is no way to subject him to capital punishment.    THERE IS NO GOING BACK Capital punishment is back on the agenda in Turkey and particularly in Kayseri following the outbreak of the news on murder of the kidnapped children in the province.   Minister Ergun thinks one of the major concerns that lead to the abolishing of the capital punishment in Turkey was the probability of false convictions. He said there are instances where a document found 10 years after the execution that might prove the innocence of a suspect but there is of course no going back after execution. He said this point has induced a trend against capital punishment in the world. Since Turkey acts in line with the EU principles, capital punishment is also abolished in Turkey.   "IT IS NOT THAT CERTAIN CRIMINALS DON´T DESERVE DEATH SENTENCE." "There are crimes justifying capital punishment in the world´s societies but since there can be false convitions, and some people can be proven innocent after years, we can restore justice to those affected by false convitions at least with a delay.   If you kill a murderer, you will be a murderer too. Death penalty is a bigger crime against humanity than murder. Because you torture criminal with that sentence spiritually, mentally and physically. Nobody can  easily live with knowing when he/she will die. This is the real hell for a human being. To sentence someone to death is more cruel than murdering someone. There is an excellent novel of Victor Hugo about death sentence. Its name is "The Last Day of a Condemned Man  " (Bir İdam Mahkumunun Son günü. You will understand why death sentence is a crime against humanity clearly after you read it.

Thread: Test takers forced to remove headscarves in Ankara

3699.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Mar 2011 Tue 10:37 pm   Quoting tunci Test takers forced to remove headscarves in Ankara 29 March 2011, Tuesday / TODAY’S ZAMAN, İSTANBUL Some students with headscarves, who sat for Sunday’s YGS exam in Ankara, became distressed when they were forced to take their headscarves off Headscarf-wearing students who took the national university admission examination at Batıkent High School in the capital yesterday were forced to remove their headscarves, reports said yesterday.   A total of 1,692,345 candidates took the Transition to Higher Education Examination (YGS) yesterday. Security was tight at the entrances of schools across Turkey, as officers frisked the test takers in the aftermath of a cheating scandal in a similar examination. Individual searches and tight security at entrances were stressful enough for the students, but the most demoralizing moment for female students wearing headscarves taking the exam at the school was when they were asked to remove their headscarves, despite a directive from the Student Selection and Placement Center (ÖSYM), which organizes the YGS, saying that headscarved students should be allowed into examination rooms. Dispirited students were seen crying outside the building, as many female students removed their headscarves to take the test. Vahide Yalçın, a senior at an imam hatip high school a vocational school offering Islamic education, said she did remove her headscarf but didn’t do well on the test because the situation was too distressing. “The teacher there told me that I needed to take off my headscarf. They said they would report me if I didn’t. They told me, ‘What’s the big deal, just take it off.’ So I went outside, cried for a bit and came back, but it didn’t go really well in that situation.” Another test taker who was subject to the same treatment, Yeşim Öz, said: “After we entered the classroom, teachers at the school came to every class and told us to take off our headscarves. So we did. If we had objected there would have been problems. They said there was a law about this, but that it had been changed.” Girl stopped by security Another student who had to deal with Batıkent High School’s anti-headscarf treatment was Ayşenur Turucu, who was told by the school’s security that they couldn’t let her in with her headscarf. “They told me, ‘We can’t let you in. The building’s manager doesn’t want us to.’ I asked for a written order showing that I couldn’t enter, but they couldn’t produce such a document. I tried to talk to the person in charge, but that wasn’t possible, either. Many other girls removed their headscarves and went in, but I didn’t just because they wanted me to.” Meanwhile, conservative families outside the school prayed and recited the Quran, extending spiritual support to the students. Some students were extremely nervous. Derya Tuncer had a panic attack for which an ambulance was called to her designated school in Samsun.   There are so many spider minded people who are still judging people with their outward appearence, Let people wear whatever they want to wear. Such a discrimination. If women are allowed to take exams with mini skirts surely they should be allowed to take exam with their headscarf.   If extremists didnt used headscarves as flags of the Islamic ruling, this kind of problems would never occur. Everybody has a right to choose what to wear. Women became victims because of men.   Edited (3/30/2011) by gokuyum tunci and Aida krishan liked this message

Thread: eng /turk luften :) xxx

3700.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Mar 2011 Tue 01:22 am   Quoting ahalliwell hi , i am not trying to be funny so please don´t take offence , but i am quite confused as i dont know you . yet you keep contacting me and asking me questions what i have no answer to. are you a friend of someone i know ? if so please tell me who it is , it would make things alot easier .   cok tesekkurler to whom helps me out xx   Selam. Komik olmaya çalışmıyorum, lütfen alınma. Ama seni tanımadığım için kafam karışık. Hala benimle temasa geçip cevaplarına sahip olmadığım sorular soruyorsun. Tanıdığım birinin arkadaşı mısın? Eğer öyleyse onun kim olduğunu söyle. Bu, işleri daha kolaylaştırırdı. Edited (3/29/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: turkish to english please, thank you

3701.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Mar 2011 Tue 01:18 am   Quoting MarioninTurkey     Kinda bozuk türkçe   verecem vereceğim I will give (it) bır ev alımde saatım verecem Lots of possibilities!! bana bır müşteri günder bana bir müşteri gönder Send me a customer evi satım paranı verecem evi satayım ki paranı vereceğim I need to sell the house so I can give you your money çok güzel bır düblex s var elımde bır müşteri bulda satalım çok güzel bie dübleks var elimde, bir müşteri bul da satalım I have a really nice dublex (two storey apartment); find a customer and let´s sell it   benım evı satmam için senın yardımına ihtıyacım var In order for me to sell the house I need your help bana yardımcı ol evi satalım help me, let´s sell the house seni hala co sevıyorum seni hâlâ çok seviyorum I still love you a lot A new Tv series. "What is the guilt of Turkish language?"

Thread: t-e recipe translation please - little bit long

3702.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Mar 2011 Tue 01:11 am   Quoting maryilyons MarioninTurkey, thank you! Your Turkish skills amaze me! Two native speakers couldn´t make heads or tails of these instructions!   Because it is long and boring. Natives are also human beings and they can easily get bored too.

Thread: help pls

3703.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Mar 2011 Tue 01:07 am   Quoting deli can It also mean, I have been, for example oturmaktayım I have been living?   Yes it can. But my teachers always criticised me when I used -mekte,-makta. They said I had to use present continous tense instead of it. Because it is gramaticaly wrong. But people sometimes prefer to use this expression. And nothing can resist people´s will. Edited (4/19/2013) by gokuyum

Thread: Documentary series about Turkey on Dutch tv

3704.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Mar 2011 Tue 01:02 am Dictator is a harsh word. Because it has only a negative meaning today. I would prefer to say "ruler". He made a revolution that only he was capable of doing. A revolution only depends on his strong will. Any compromise would cause modern Turkey to fail. Some things can seem theorically wrong but they can be pratically necessary. I am sure Atatürk wanted to built a democratic country. He allowed two opposition parties to be founded different times. But all theocracy supporters got together in those parties and criticised the revolution harshly. They wanted a theocratic government. If they were succesful we would be no different than Iran. So I am grateful to him no matter what. Elisabeth liked this message

Thread: Turkey to hire 40,000 native English speakers as guest teachers

3705.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Mar 2011 Sun 02:59 pm   Quoting MrsBee     I don´t think learning shouldn´t end after finishing the university. I would be grateful for the chance to be a better teacher by working with a native speaker.  Of course being a native speaker doesn´t mean that that person can actually teach. If you are a good teacher, nobody should be able to make you uncomfortable. Hold your head high and make the best of the situation. Don´t take it personal. There´s nothing to do against it at this point. If they want to import native English teachers at least they must be honest and close English teaching faculties. Every student has a right to have same teachers. In this situation one student will have native teacher other will have a Turkish teacher. This is unfair. If you import more native teachers to overcome this unfairness, you have to fire other (Turkish) teachers. This is also unfair.      Edited (3/27/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: Police raid publishing house, Radikal headquarters over journalist Şık’s book

3706.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Mar 2011 Sat 05:45 pm Democracy must be a goal not a tool.

Thread: Turkey to hire 40,000 native English speakers as guest teachers

3707.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Mar 2011 Sat 05:43 pm   Quoting MrsBee It was on the news for days. Turkish teachers were protesting on the street against "import meat". I gueass they didn´t get the full memo.   As a Turkish teacher I protest this. If you don´t trust the education you give to English teachers, why do we have English teaching faculties?

Thread: T to E lutfennn

3708.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Mar 2011 Sat 05:38 pm   Quoting ayse-eski yahu ayse bacım sen türksünde bunlar benimi kekliyo aylardır Oh Ayşe sister! Are you a Turk? Have they been fooling me for months?

Thread: t to e

3709.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Mar 2011 Sat 05:35 pm   Quoting ayse-eski hadi canım benden güzel yazıyo yemin ediyorum yoksa ben mi türk değilim kendimden şüphe ettim bi an yoksa ben devşirmemiyim ordudamıyız nihat    Oh come on! He/she writes better than me. I swear. Or am I not a Turk? I doubted myself for a moment. Or am I a Janissary (a soldier from different ethnicity) in the army Nihat?

Thread: Was Serbia yet another victim?

3710.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Mar 2011 Thu 05:48 pm Most sad thing is yesterday´s victims become today´s monsters. I say this generally. There are many examples. You can´t find a completely innocent country in the world slavica, si++ and Elisabeth liked this message

Thread: Turk to Eng pleasee

3711.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Mar 2011 Tue 08:31 am 1) profilinizde istanbulda yaşıyo yazıyo yanlışmı?   Your profile says (s/he) living in Isanbul is it wrong ?   2) şimdi tayvanda sın öylemi?yanlışmı anladım Now you are in Taiwan ? right? did I understand wrong ? (not sure if Tayvan is a spelling mistake )   3) tşk edrim sende çok güzelsin keşke istanbulda olsaydın arkadaş olurduk...istanbula gelicenmi?. Thanks you are very beautiful too, if only you were in Istanbul we would be friends,  Will you come to Istanbul ?   4) seni çok beğendim seninle arkadaş olmak isterim olurmu I really like you, I want to be friends with you, Is it possible ?   5) tşk edrim ne zaman gelirsin istanbula seni yakından tanımak isterim Thank you , When are you coming to Istanbul I want to know you (closely) meaning in person I guess   6) ne sorunu var msn den sohbet edelimi What question (problem) does it/he/she have ? shall we chat on MSN ?   7) hiç görüşemiyoz seninle...saat kaçta giriyon nete görüşmek dileğiyle kib We can never chat with each other,,,,what time do you go on teh net  wish to chat with you take care   8) nete hiç denk gelemiyoz saat kaçta giriyon nete yiyişiriz biraz... you are never coming online/ on the internet , what time are you entering the net we can make love a bit ? (not sure haha) 9) efendim aşkım ...bak ne diyorrum sana türkiyeye gel evlenelim seninle..aşkım yes my love  , look what i´m saying to you come to Turkey lets get married my love 1  aynen ne fark eder tuk filipin  Exactley what difference turkish  phillipino ... Thank you so much!!     Turkish in the text is very bad. Your translation is very good.   Edited (3/15/2011) by gokuyum Edited (3/15/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: e to t

3712.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Mar 2011 Tue 08:14 am Beni küçümsüyorsan büyük bir hata yapıyorsun. Edited (3/15/2011) by gokuyum Sonbahar liked this message

Thread: Turkish woman chases UFOs around Lake Van

3713.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Mar 2011 Mon 12:25 pm where?

Thread: Turkish to English: PAS

3714.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Mar 2011 Fri 12:49 am   Quoting smaragda i like this song without understanding it; it is normal

Thread: Turkish to English: PAS

3715.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Mar 2011 Fri 12:46 am   Quoting mchelle012 My colleague would like to know the meaning of this song. Help. Thanks.  PAS - Soner Sarikabadayi    Kendisi yazdi kendisi bozdu  Kirli degil ya pasti ya tozdu  Seni sevdigim o zamanlardaki gönlüm yok artik yok  Bir kere bile arama tuz olur yarama  Canina cigerine hükmedebiliyor  Bir yolu var ama sormadan etmeden  O seni nasil zararina verebiliyor  Aramadigim yer kalmiyor seni sabahtan yatana kadar  Sanirim hep seni sevecek kalbim son kez atana kadar  Aramadigim yer kalmiyor seni sabahtan yatana kadar  Bana göre sürer gider sönmez bu yangin ikimizi de yakana kadar   Very meaningful. At least it explains why I hate pop.

Thread: Southern Turkish province launches ´family imam´ project

3716.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Mar 2011 Thu 09:49 pm   Quoting tunci Not : preventing a husband from entering the house is a sin ? GOOD QUESTION !   A great sin against manhood.  Edited (3/10/2011) by gokuyum tunci liked this message

Thread: Free online courses

3717.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Mar 2011 Thu 09:39 pm Here is a great site for learning Arabic. It is very useful. http://www.madinaharabic.com/

Thread: Silent people at TC

3718.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Mar 2011 Thu 09:35 pm   Quoting si++ lemon hansom   I am also silent these days

Thread: Southern Turkish province launches ´family imam´ project

3719.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Mar 2011 Thu 09:02 pm I would prefer psychologists to visit homes.

Thread: TurkStat says Turkish people are hopeful, happy

3720.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Mar 2011 Wed 09:23 pm   Quoting tunci I wonder why women are happier than men in Turkey ! interesting... All my answers could be sexist. But I want to believe women are smarter than us. Especially after seeing so many stupid men. (I believe smartness and sadness are directly proportional)   Edited (3/9/2011) by gokuyum Edited (3/9/2011) by gokuyum tunci liked this message

Thread: What were the most daring or brave books that you read?

3721.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Mar 2011 Wed 09:00 pm Mines were: 1)The Last Temptation by Nicos Kazantzakis 2) Lord Of The Flies by William Golding 3) Painted Bird by Jerzy Kosinski 4) American Psycho by Bret Easton Ellis 5) Ağır Roman by Metin Kaçan 6) Thus Spoke Zarathustra by Nietzsche 7) Post Mortem by Albert Caraco 8) Discours Contre Dieu by Sade 9) Justine by Sade 10 ) The Antichrist by Nietzsche Edited (3/9/2011) by gokuyum Edited (3/9/2011) by gokuyum Edited (3/9/2011) by gokuyum Edited (3/9/2011) by gokuyum Edited (3/9/2011) by gokuyum Edited (3/9/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: TurkStat says Turkish people are hopeful, happy

3722.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Mar 2011 Wed 08:38 pm If everybody is happy what is wrong with me? Does their happiness make me sad?

Thread: Broken Hearts Club

3723.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Mar 2011 Fri 10:29 pm It is free to join. Take a seat near me. thehandsom liked this message

Thread: Word Order in Turkish.

3724.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Mar 2011 Thu 10:58 pm I thought again and your sentence seemed okay to me now too if you really meant it. There is nothing wrong with punctuation.

Thread: Word Order in Turkish.

3725.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Mar 2011 Thu 10:45 pm Tomac your sentence is difficult to understand without proper punctuation.     Edited (3/3/2011) by gokuyum Edited (3/3/2011) by gokuyum Edited (3/3/2011) by gokuyum Edited (3/3/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: Blogger becomes latest victim of Turkish Internet bans

3726.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Mar 2011 Thu 10:31 pm   Quoting tunci      I agree. That is absolutely shame. Banning bloggers for whatever reason,is breaching the freedom of communication.   There is an excellent saying for these situations in Turkish. "Pire için yorgan yakmak" It can be translated as "To burn the quilt because of/to get rid of the flea" Aida krishan, tunci, Henry and Elisabeth liked this message

Thread: Pretty please can someone be so kind as to help me...E-T

3727.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Mar 2011 Thu 10:25 pm   Quoting MarioninTurkey 3rd pair: to go and do something is an expression. It implies I shouldn´t do it but I can´t help myself. You don´t need to use gidip "Ben başka birini mahvetmeden önce" or even "başka birini mahvetmemem için" Can you explain in detail what you mean?   OK. "I´ve gone and done it again" doesn´t mean "Ben gidip onu yine yaptım" but "Eyvah, ben onu yine yaptım". It is like Oh no, I have done it again. There is a linked expression "You´ve really gone and done it now" which means "you are going to be in trouble with the boss/parent/teacher" now. I understand now. Thank you for the explanation.

Thread: Blogger becomes latest victim of Turkish Internet bans

3728.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Mar 2011 Thu 06:01 pm I have a blog and I am trying to introduce Turkish culture and literature to foreigners. Now I cant use it. I know there are many useful blogs like mine. It is a shame.

Thread: Pretty please can someone be so kind as to help me...E-T

3729.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Mar 2011 Thu 05:54 pm   Quoting MarioninTurkey Ready to follow a sing, If there was only a sing İşareti takip etmeye hazırım,sadece bir işaret olsaydı..   It´s something I couldn´t do. Ama birşeyler vardı, yapamadım.   Before I go and ruin someone else Gidip bir başkasını mahvetmeden önce    Good translation, tunci. Just a few points to help: 1st pair above. I agree with you that sing should be sign! If there was only a sign seems more like longing: "keşke bir işaret olsa" or "keşke bir işaret olsaydı" Sadece sometimes can take place of "keşke".   2nd pair: it´s something I couldn´t do doesn´t refer to something else, but the thing that was just talked about. "ama bunu yapamadım" I agree. I would translate it as "Bu yapamadığım bir şey"   3rd pair: to go and do something is an expression. It implies I shouldn´t do it but I can´t help myself. You don´t need to use gidip "Ben başka birini mahvetmeden önce" or even "başka birini mahvetmemem için" Can you explain in detail what you mean?

Thread: T-E

3730.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Mar 2011 Thu 05:42 pm   Quoting SweetKisses Dünyada bir tek (name) kalsa onunla ne yapmak isterdin?   This sentence is meaningless. You would do the same what you were doing before. Function of something doesn´t change when it remains only one.

Thread: Idioms : English and Turkish

3731.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Mar 2011 Thu 05:36 pm   Quoting MarioninTurkey      Also "In a catch 22 situation" - comes from the book titled Catch 22 or "Hobson´s choice" from the play, where Hobson had to choose between all the town knowing he was a drunk, and letting his daughter marry the man she wanted to (he disapproved) Catch 22 is one of the best novels I read. I laughed a lot while I was reading it.

Thread: Feel-good German film says multiculturalism not dead

3732.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Mar 2011 Thu 02:53 am    Quoted from Daydreamer´s post: It´s easy to complain about terrible Europeans hating Islam. But it isn´;t so. Europe should stand against everything that may kill its secularism, human rights and equality regardless of whether it´s Islam, Catholicism or Marxism. In other words, everybody should be free to pray to whomever they want either in the privacy of their own house or in a place of religious cult like mosque, church or synagogue, but nowhere else. And religious rules should always be inferior to national laws. As a believer I agree. Fanatism is not only taking aim at atheists but also at believers. There are many sects of each religion which declare others as infidels. And they all interpret holly books so differently. Only solution seems like secularism. Give any beautiful belief or humanist philosophy to the crowd, they will change it in no time something monsterous. I blamed religions for the blood shed for their sakes in the world, long time ago but now I understand it is human nature to blame. There is a very thin line seperates most of the people from the level of an animal. It is not important if they are atheist or believer, blood always attracts them.   Edited (3/3/2011) by gokuyum Edited (3/3/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: translation into english needed please

3733.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Mar 2011 Thu 02:27 am   Quoting Sooree Thank you so much Can you please explain the meaning of these 3 sentences a bit more ..? He says his lover that he loves her  Yasak aşkındır beni yaşatan göz bebeğim.. It is your forbidden love that keeps me alive,my pupil (my dear) ... Her an korkuyla bulsak da birbirimizi Even though,at any moment we find eachother within fear Doymuyorum, doyamıyorum hep özlüyorum seni.. I am not satiated(I am not satisfied),I can´t satiated, I miss you all the time..     Sooree liked this message

Thread: t-e please :)

3734.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Feb 2011 Mon 09:57 pm   Quoting deli      something like I am troubled life anyway dont tire yourself me too          forget  its not connected/ relevant to you its my problem

Thread: t to e

3735.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Feb 2011 Mon 10:47 am   Quoting tomac     However, there is "bir yaz mevsimi", not "meyve" in original sentence. Could it be translated like this? (learner´s try)   ama yokluğu da güneşsiz bir yaz mevsimi gibidir But his absence is also like a summer (season) with no sun içini karartır (I think it is iç-in-i ?) It darkens your soul.   correct.

Thread: E to T

3736.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Feb 2011 Sun 06:08 pm   Quoting tunci    I haven"t been studying = Çalışmıyordum or Çalışmamaktaydım       Here it says that present perfect tense is used for actions which started at past and still going on. We don´t have such a tense and we use present continious tense instead of it. So translation must be like this: "çalışmıyorum" or "çalışmamaktayım".   If I am wrong please explain my mistake.I am not very good at grammar. Have a nice day.

Thread: Looks like a good book \

3737.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Feb 2011 Sun 11:45 am Seems interesting. I hope we can have Turkish edition of it. tunci liked this message

Thread: Help and confused ?

3738.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Feb 2011 Wed 06:57 am   Quoting daisiek     okays ,i will. What do you mean by learn his red lines in a relationship? He is a student studying in the netherlands but he is from Turkey. is that good news? He is 20 and I am 21. should I still message him and ask him if is truly serious? I just cant imagine someone wanting to have a relationship with me ( long distance) when there are so many beautiful girl or women over therer? idk ? By red lines I mean the limits of his tolerance. He can be too conservative or too jealous. This can cause problems in the future. Studying in Netherlands is good news. At least he has a purpose other than meeting with a foreign woman for her money or for citizenship.(a possibility) There is no big age difference between you. It is also good news. You say there are a lot of beautiful girls in Turkey and why he wants to be with you. As a Turkish man my answer is being beautiful is not the only factor for every man. There are other factors like kindness, helpfulness, smartness, etc... As i told before, only time can show if he is serious or not. So keep chatting with him. Bye.

Thread: Help and confused ?

3739.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Feb 2011 Tue 07:27 am Don´t be hasty. Give it time and try to know him better. Try to learn his red lines in a relationship. Don´t trust him quickly. Ask him if he has a decent job(teacher, doctor, lawyer, engineer, etc..). If he has, it can be considered as good news. If he lives in a holiday village be more careful. Men in Turkey can be very deceiving, if there is a lot of age difference between you, you should be extra cautious.  Edited (2/22/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: Hokkabaz help??

3740.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Feb 2011 Mon 04:35 pm   Quoting si++     gokuyum,   Is it right to give links to the illegal stuff in forums? why not pm him?     i agree.

Thread: Behzat Ç.

3741.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Feb 2011 Sun 06:30 pm   Quoting abdughupur Hi gokuyum, do you know whos song the "Tek Başına"? Ayça Varlıer was sing it on Beyaz show.   Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNkFxOAFM_M

Thread: T-E

3742.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Feb 2011 Sun 12:03 pm   Quoting Henry My attempt for the first bit - KİTAP OKUMAK  TO READ A BOOK   Bir arkadaşıma sordum: I asked one of my friends “Bugüne kadar kaç kitap okudun?” “How many books have you read up till today?” Dedi: “Çok kitap okudum!” He/she said “ I’ve read lots of books!” Kaç tane kitap? How many books? Sayısını bilemedi. He/she couldn’t know the number. Evet sonra? Yes later? Artık  kitap okumadığını söyledi. He/she said that they did not read books anymore. Sordum: “Kelime, cümle, paragraf, metin, isim-ad, özne, sıfat, zamir, zarf, edat, bağlaç, ünlem, fiil nedir?” I asked “What is a word, a sentence. a paragraph, a text, a noun, a subject, an adjective, a pronoun, an adverb, a particle, a conjunction, an exclamation, a verb?” Cevap veremedi. He/she could not answer. Ama konuşmaya gelince, çok güzel konuşuyordu. But when he came to speak, he was speaking very beautifully. Günlük yaşamda, birkaç kelime –sokak lisanı- ile konuşuluyor. In daily life, a few words - street language-  are spoken. (This is what the writer means I guess)     Demek ki biz, kitap okumayı okul yaşamımızla sınırlandırıyoruz. That is to say, we, with our school life are restricting book reading Üstelik dil bilgisini bilmiyoruz. On top of that, we do not know the grammar. Üniversite mezunu olunca, her şeyi bildiğimizi zannediyoruz. When graduating from university, we suppose that we know everything. Aslında okumanın ve mesleki eğitimin okuldan sonra başlayacağını unutuyoruz. Actually we forget reading and vocational training will start after school Oysaki okumak en soylu uğraştır. However, to read is the noblest endeavour. Herkes günün belli saatlerinde kitap okumalıdır. Everybody should read books during certain hours of the day. Kitap okumak beynimize ve kişiliğimize en büyük yatırımdır.  Ben bunları söylediğimde,  arkadaşımın şu  görüşünü ilginç buldum:  “Hayat mücadelesi, iş yaşamı ve günlük hayatın zorluklarından kitap okumaya zaman  kalıyor mu ki?”  Buna cevap veremedim.  Siz ne dersiniz?          Edited (2/20/2011) by gokuyum Edited (2/20/2011) by gokuyum

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3743.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Feb 2011 Sun 11:59 am   Quoting Henry Thanks for the corrections Gokuyum  Here ıs my attempt at the last few lines Kitap okumak beynimize ve kişiliğimize en büyük yatırımdır. Reading books is the biggest investment (we can add) to our intelligence and character. Ben bunları söylediğimde,  arkadaşımın şu  görüşünü ilginç buldum: When/after I said  these (words) I found that opinion of my friend interesting: “Hayat mücadelesi, iş yaşamı ve günlük hayatın zorluklarından kitap okumaya zaman  kalıyor mu ki?” “In the struggle for life, with the difficulties of work life and daily life, do you believe that the time to read books is still there?”  Buna cevap veremedim. I could not answer this. Siz ne dersiniz? What do you say?      great Edited (2/20/2011) by gokuyum

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3744.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Feb 2011 Sun 08:36 am   Quoting Henry My attempt for the first bit - KİTAP OKUMAK  TO READ A BOOK   Bir arkadaşıma sordum: I asked one of my friends “Bugüne kadar kaç kitap okudun?” “How many books have you read up till today?” Dedi: “Çok kitap okudum!” He/she said “ I’ve read lots of books!” Kaç tane kitap? How many books? Sayısını bilemedi. He/she couldn’t know the number. Evet sonra? Yes later? Artık  kitap okumadığını söyledi. He/she said that they did not read books anymore. Sordum: “Kelime, cümle, paragraf, metin, isim-ad, özne, sıfat, zamir, zarf, edat, bağlaç, ünlem, fiil nedir?” I asked “What is a word, a sentence. a paragraph, a text, a noun, a subject, an adjective, a pronoun, an adverb, a particle, a conjunction, an exclamation, a verb?” Cevap veremedi. He/she could not answer. Ama konuşmaya gelince, çok güzel konuşuyordu. But when he came to speak, he was speaking very beautifully. Günlük yaşamda, birkaç kelime –sokak lisanı- ile konuşuluyor. In daily life, he spoke with a few words are spoken (with street language). (passive) or "We speak with a few words in daily life (with street language)" Demek ki biz, kitap okumayı okul yaşamımızla sınırlandırıyoruz. That is to say, we, with our school life are restricting book reading Üstelik dil bilgisini bilmiyoruz. On top of that, we do not know the grammar. Üniversite mezunu olunca, her şeyi bildiğimizi zannediyoruz. When graduating from university, we suppose that we know everything. Aslında okumanın ve mesleki eğitimin okuldan sonra başlayacağını unutuyoruz. Actually we hope  forget we will begin reading and vocational training will/shall begin after school Oysaki okumak en soylu uğraştır. However, to read is the noblest endeavour. Herkes günün belli saatlerinde kitap okumalıdır. Everybody should read books during certain hours of the day. Kitap okumak beynimize ve kişiliğimize en büyük yatırımdır.  Ben bunları söylediğimde,  arkadaşımın şu  görüşünü ilginç buldum:  “Hayat mücadelesi, iş yaşamı ve günlük hayatın zorluklarından kitap okumaya zaman  kalıyor mu ki?”  Buna cevap veremedim.  Siz ne dersiniz?    very good try.   Edited (2/20/2011) by gokuyum Edited (2/20/2011) by gokuyum Henry liked this message

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3745.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Feb 2011 Sun 08:09 am Benimki geliyor Mine is coming.   O kalem benim(dir). That pencil is mine.   I guess in English you don´t use "my" at the end of the sentences and you use mine. You say "It is mine" instead of "It is my"   But in Turkish we use equivelant of "my" at the end of the sentence. "my" means "benim" in Turkish. We translate "benim" as "mine" to English when it is at the end of the sentence. Actually "mine" means "benimki" in Turkish. Edited (2/20/2011) by gokuyum Edited (2/20/2011) by gokuyum Henry liked this message

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3746.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Feb 2011 Sun 07:55 am   Quoting tomac     That made me think... Could the sentence "the girl, who he loves, is mine" be translated like this? (using -dir suffix) Onun sevdiği kız benimdir. Mine means "benimki" but it can be translated in this case as "benim" So your translation is correct.

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3747.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Feb 2011 Sat 02:23 pm   Quoting Adam25     when I saw the sentence I thought it was ´the girl who he loves is mine´ - wouldn´t it be ´ben´ for ´me´ or am I getting muddled? kişi ekleri  (personal endings)                         ben-im  i am /be(V3) + me sen-sin  you are /be(V3) + you o           he/she/it is /be(V3) + him/her/it biz-iz     we are /be(V3) +us siz-siniz  you are /be(V3) +you onlar     they are /be(V3) +them   iyelik ekleri (possessive suffixes) ben-im  my sen-in   your o-nun    his/her/its biz-im    our siz-in     your onlar-ın   their   Edited (2/19/2011) by gokuyum Edited (2/19/2011) by gokuyum Edited (2/19/2011) by gokuyum Edited (2/19/2011) by gokuyum Edited (2/19/2011) by gokuyum Henry, tomac and insallah liked this message

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3748.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Feb 2011 Sat 07:12 am   Quoting si++     I have always disagreed with those who say "Turkish grammar is difficult to learn" but ok so be it if you say so.   Then again which grammar do you think  is easy to learn? I´m curious.   This is my opinion but I respect yours too.

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3749.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Feb 2011 Wed 11:45 pm   Quoting Sonbahar Yes indeed,anyway, the most difficult is not the vocabulary, but the suffix based structure of the words and also the construction of sentences. But I think we are taking advantages from arabic vocabulary, (in addition to words from french and english origins that we can easily understant too) So no excuses for us!   Turkish grammar is difficult to learn but our vocabulary is easy. By the way which Turkish words you use in daily language?

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3750.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Feb 2011 Wed 11:30 pm   Quoting Sonbahar In Tunisia we don´t use all  these words in daily speaking because we use the ´Tunisian dialect or lehçe´. But in ´pure´ arabic language, yes, many of these words can be daily used. Of course all tunisians who studied arabic at school understand these words and many others arabic words from Turkish language. We also have turkish words in daily language too in Tunisia( we were part of the Ottoman Empire, in the past)   It must be easy for you to learn Turkish. As you see we have lots of Arabic loan words in our language.

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3751.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Feb 2011 Wed 11:23 pm   Quoting tomac I think this text deserves much better translation. But anyway let´s start with my learner´s try:   Dayan be gönlüm.biçare değilsin,yaradan sana yar..Kimsesiz değilsin,yanında kimsesizler kimsesi var.Biliyorum!Sığmazsın hiç bir yere bu sevdayla,dünya sana dar ;ama dayan gönlüm!Dayan ki her gecenin mutlaka bir sabahı var.     Hey, endure my heart! You are not helpless, you have God as your friend. You are not alone, because friend (God) of the lonely people is near you. I know! You don´t belong/fit into anywhere with all this passion/love, the world is too narrow for you. But endure, my heart! Endure, because after every night a morning must surely come.

Thread: Quiz 9 (for learners)

3752.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Feb 2011 Wed 10:58 pm Do you use these words in Arabic daily language?

Thread: Quiz 9 (for learners)

3753.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Feb 2011 Wed 10:56 pm I think thats all. I thought "okul" comes from "ecole" but i guess it idoesn´t. Also I thought "paşa" is foreign but the dictionary doesn´t say so. Well this quiz ends here. Congratulations. Edited (2/16/2011) by gokuyum

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3754.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Feb 2011 Wed 10:51 pm   Quoting Sonbahar Halide Edib devamlı olarak terbiye ve okullar konusunda yazılar yazdığı için, devrin Millî Eğitim Bakanlığının ilgisini çeker. Kendisine 1909´dan itibaren Darülmuallimat´ta (Kız Öğretmen Okulu) pedagoji öğretmenliği teklif edilir. Ayrıca Evkafa bağlı vakıf okullarında müfettiş olarak hizmet eder, 1916´da Cemal Paşa´nın daveti üzerine gittiği Beyrut ve Şam´da okulların düzenlenmesiyle ve yetimhanelerle meşgul olur.   yetim´hane´- orphan´s  ´eve´  (arabic) +1 Eğitim- Education (persian?) -1 Bakanlık- ministery (persian?) -1 düzenlenme- arrange, put in order (persian?)-1 yazı- writing, article (persian?) -1 My second try, thank you again

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3755.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Feb 2011 Wed 10:18 pm   Quoting Sonbahar Merhaba Gokuyum, this is my try. Most of the words are from arabic origins... İ wont be able to detect words from persian origins maalesef. Halide Edib devamlı olarak terbiye ve okullar konusunda yazılar yazdığı için, devrin Millî Eğitim Bakanlığının ilgisini çeker. Kendisine 1909´dan itibaren Darülmuallimat´ta (Kız Öğretmen Okulu) pedagoji öğretmenliği teklif edilir. Ayrıca Evkafa bağlı vakıf okullarında müfettiş olarak hizmet eder, 1916´da Cemal Paşa´nın daveti üzerine gittiği Beyrut ve Şam´da okulların düzenlenmesiyle ve yetimhanelerle meşgul olur. Edip- author, writer devamlı-   continuous  (devam is Arabic but we should accept "devamlı" as Turkish because of the suffix -lı at the end. terbiye- education  devri-   periodical (devri means here another thing write only the meaning of "devir") Millî-   national itibaren- from a moment, a date Darülmuallimat- Kız Öğretmen Okulu (already given) pedagoji- pedagogy education  teklif- offer, proposal Evkaf- the government department in control of estates in mortmain    vakıf- charitable foundation, also religious müfettiş- inspector detective  hizmet - duty service   davet - invitation meşgul- busy   Şimdiden teşekkürler       Excellent try. But there are more. Keep going. Edited (2/16/2011) by gokuyum Edited (2/16/2011) by gokuyum Sonbahar liked this message

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3756.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Feb 2011 Wed 10:16 pm   Quoting Elisabeth Yes but would they prefer a Turkish taxi driver???  Why not if they are suicidal?

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3757.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Feb 2011 Wed 10:13 pm   Quoting tunci     four years of being single Dört yıldır bekar olup living with only memories has been so difficult and painful sadece anılarla yaşamak o kadar zor ve acı vericiydi ki but now I feel its time to look forward and move on ama şimdi ileriye bakıp ilerlemenin zamanı olduğunu hissediyorum so if there are any millionaires with a good heart reading this please call me. Bu yüzden eğer bunu okuyan  iyi kalpli  milyonerler varsa lütfen beni arasın           Hello. Who am I talking to?   Hindistan, lauraacorah, Sonbahar and tunci liked this message

Thread: Quiz 7 (for learners)

3758.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Feb 2011 Wed 10:12 pm   Quoting aiça A nice exercise... This time İ tried one with a: Aiça´nın ablası antik araba almış, ama aslında abisi aynısını armağan almayı arzularmış.   good try.

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3759.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Feb 2011 Wed 09:41 pm Find non-Turkish words in the paragraph. Write what they mean.     Halide Edib devamlı olarak terbiye ve okullar konusunda yazılar yazdığı için, devrin Millî Eğitim Bakanlığının ilgisini çeker. Kendisine 1909´dan itibaren Darülmuallimat´ta (Kız Öğretmen Okulu) pedagoji öğretmenliği teklif edilir. Ayrıca Evkafa bağlı vakıf okullarında müfettiş olarak hizmet eder, 1916´da Cemal Paşa´nın daveti üzerine gittiği Beyrut ve Şam´da okulların düzenlenmesiyle ve yetimhanelerle meşgul olur.   Edited (2/16/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: Quiz 7 (for learners)

3760.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Feb 2011 Wed 09:35 pm   Quoting aiça Babası bebeğinin bezini bağlamaktan bıkınca barda bir börek beş bardak birayla beslenir.   A little weird but understandable.Bravo.   Edited (2/16/2011) by gokuyum

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3761.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Feb 2011 Thu 12:59 pm     Edited (2/10/2011) by gokuyum Edited (2/10/2011) by gokuyum [misunderstanding]

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3762.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Feb 2011 Thu 12:45 pm   Quoting Adam25     thank you very much gokuyum - but you crossed out my ´to´ and this is not right in english. You don´t ´write´ someone, you must ´write to´ someone (or possibly ´about´ someone but this is a different meaning altogether) "Sana yazıyorum" means "I write to you". "Seni yazıyorum" means something like "I write you." But if you say this is wrong; I guess it can be translated as "I write about you" Have a nice day.     tunci liked this message

Thread: Aşaıdakı kelimlerden anlamlı...

3763.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Feb 2011 Wed 10:54 pm   Quoting Henry Quote: from Manisa Turkish Turkish Word Order Adjectival Descriptions of Subject. The Subject. Time Clauses. Adjectival Descriptions of Object. The Object The Verb.   Hope this helps too     This is the ideal form but not the absolute. Sometimes we form sentences very differently. MrsBee, Hindistan and Lilyana liked this message

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3764.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Feb 2011 Wed 05:13 pm   Quoting britturk     One day you’ll realize you lost a diamond while too busy collecting stones   My attempt: Bir gün taşları toplamakla çok meşgulken bir elmas yitirdiğinin farkına varacaksın.

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3765.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Feb 2011 Wed 05:09 pm   Quoting Adam25     my attempt   if you are not in this city it is (like) a child with it´s arm in plaster.  if the lines are not pointing at you, soon the poems will kill themselves.  And, don´t tell anybody.  I am writing to you, they believe it´s poetry... good translation.

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3766.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Feb 2011 Wed 12:09 am   Quoting zeytinne Good luck at teaching Turkish! You need it !    Thanks for your good wishes. Edited (2/9/2011) by gokuyum

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3767.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Feb 2011 Tue 11:35 pm   Quoting zeytinne -e kala and -i geçe points that its about "at" Thats for us to understand its not about " var" or "geçiyor".   It is exactly the opposite. Let me correct it for you.   -e kala and -i geçe points that its about " var" or "geçiyor". Thats for us to understand its not about "at"

Thread: The over use of abbreviated English

3768.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Feb 2011 Tue 11:26 pm  Is the "I " word also an abbreviated form of an old English word?

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3769.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Feb 2011 Tue 11:16 pm   Quoting zeytinne     Ok. You hate grammar r and you pretend to teach Turkish better than Turkish books are doing. Thats a high selfesteem .   What you dont want to understand is it is not the literal translation of the Turkish adverb that you see in the books but this doesn´t mean the books are wrong. There is a saying: "Translation is like a woman; beautiful one is not loyal; loyal one is not beautiful." As you can see when we translate it literally it doesnt sound beautiful in English. If we want it to be beautiful we must bear its disloyalty to itself.   Edited (2/8/2011) by gokuyum Hindistan liked this message

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3770.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Feb 2011 Tue 11:04 pm   Quoting zeytinne     I understand. But in all books that teach turkish for foregners is explained like this. No matter from where "kala" comes for it matters what points. And it points "at". And, like we all know, "-e" points "to".   BTW in your profile you wrote that you hate grammar   Yes I hate grammer. But I know what -e/ kala means. It can be translated as "in the period of  x time remains to y time" İnstead of translating this way they translate it as "at...to"   Edited (2/8/2011) by gokuyum

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3771.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Feb 2011 Tue 10:55 pm Like we see in dictionary: -e/ -a kala = at....to...   The problem here is we dont use a Turkish equivalent of "at" when we use "kala" or "geçe" in the sentence. But English speakers somtimes use "at" when they use "pass" or "to". So in dictionaries they use "at" and "to" together when translating -e/ kala. But look at the dictionary and you will see "at" is equivalent to "-de,-da" in Turkish. Translation here is not literal.   Edited (2/8/2011) by gokuyum Edited (2/8/2011) by gokuyum

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3772.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Feb 2011 Tue 10:47 pm   Quoting zeytinne     I know that " -e kala" are together but the the books point "kala" being the sign that is "at" some time. We are learning like this . Of course we dont use "kala" for other than time.   I understand. But "kala" comes from "kalmak" and it is only logical when we translate it as "to". As you can see it is not a literal translation. But it is a mistake to think "kala" is equivalent to "at".

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3773.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Feb 2011 Tue 10:34 pm   Quoting zeytinne      You are wrong Gokk   İn "Sekize on kala..."  "kala" means "at" and that "to" you mentioned is final -e  from "sekize"   Nope. We use "kala" with "-e" suffix like "word + e + word + kala" You can translate "e kala" as "to" if you are saying the time. Actually "kala" comes from "kalmak"(to remain) and if you want to do a literal translation you shoud write "at ten remains eight"

Thread: Çok süpriz

3774.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Feb 2011 Tue 10:21 pm   Quoting tunci       - Çok süpriz maçlar olmuş desene .     They are such suprising matches, don"t you think ? (probably these people are betting on football matches and the matches they bet on are not likely to win which is suprise)  - Demek maçı stattan izliyeceksin.  [I guess it is more correct to say "statta"(in the stadium) instead of "stattan"(from stadium)] There is no problem with translation.     Well, that means you are going to watch the match in the stadium.   - Keşke benim de böyle bir imkanım olsaydı!      Wish I had an opportunity like this !(like yours)   - Benim yerimde olsaydın, eminim sen de aynısını yapardın.      If you were in my place, I am sure you would do the same thing.     - Bilmez olur muyum ?        Of course I know..(I know..., tell me about it)

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3775.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Feb 2011 Tue 10:09 pm "kala"s equivelant in English can be "to" but not "at". "at"s equivalent is "-de,-da"   Sekize on kala işe gideceğim. I will go to work at ten to eight.   There is no equivalent of "at" in the Turkish sentence. Because there is no need to use it.   Sekizde işe gideceğim. I will go to work at eight.   As you can see in the Turkish sentence there is "-de" which is the equivalent of "at" Because it is necessary to use it. Edited (2/8/2011) by gokuyum Henry liked this message

Thread: English to Turkish Thanks Thanks Thanks Very important piece of advice I want to give a troubled sou

3776.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Feb 2011 Mon 12:47 am   Quoting tunci ö    " Turk erkekleri çokkkkk etkileyici dramatik. !! Sanırım bana kötü birisi olduğunu ve seni tanımaktan pişman olacağımı söylüyorsun. Tavsiyeni dinleyeceğim ve sana artık yazmayacağım. Ama benim de sana birkaç tane tavsiyem olacak. Sözlerin bana senin yarım bir adam olduğuna dair bir bahane gibi geliyor. Eğer gördüğün şeyden memnun değilsen değiştir o şeyi. Tam adam ol. Tembelliği bırak. Herkesin etrafında olması sevgisini artık haketmeye başla..)"     Burada dramatik kelimesi her şeyi büyüten, kötümser ya da rol kesen gibi olumsuz bir anlamda kullanılmış. Etkileyici kelimesi uygun bir karşılık olmaz sanırım. Kolay gelsin.

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3777.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Feb 2011 Mon 12:31 am   Quoting barba_mama Did you know, Dutch and Turks are actually the same people. My personal research has shown that they must share a common ancestor. Whenever I bring Dutch cheese to Turkey, the Turkish people love it as much as the Dutch do. They go crazy about the stuff. Dutch people are called "cheeseheads"... Turkish people love cheese, like they are "cheeseheads". Coincidence? And what about the tulips. Tulips are a Turkish national flower, and a Dutch national flower... Coincidence? I think not! Both Turkish and Dutch people like to dance in a line... Coincidence?!?! (okay, the direction is different, but this is due to weather influences, after dispersion of ancestors) And what about the same totally hysterical reactions to football? Also we have a county named Datça [it can be read as Dutch(i)a] in Muğla and maybe your ancestors came to Europe from there.   Edited (2/7/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: english to turkish please

3778.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Feb 2011 Fri 01:02 am   Quoting Henry     Bu aralar (ikimizin de) çok meşgul olduğumuzu /olduğunu biliyorum ama gercekten Mayısta seni yeniden görmek için sabırsızlaniyorum. It means Gokuyum has corrected a learner´s attempt at the translation. The ´u´ was added to make the Turkish grammar correct, and the bit in brackets was missing to complete the original translation, but it could be omitted and the sentence would still be fine.  If it is used "ikimizin de" in the sentence "olduğumuzu" must change as "olduğunu".I wanted to add this information.   Edited (2/4/2011) by gokuyum Henry liked this message

Thread: english to turkish please

3779.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Feb 2011 Thu 11:10 pm   Quoting sonunda     Bu aralar (ikimizin de) çok meşgul olduğumuzu biliyorum ama gercekten Mayısta seni yeniden görmek için sabırsızlaniyorum. My try-would probably be understood but wait for corrections.  good translation.   Edited (2/3/2011) by gokuyum sonunda liked this message

Thread: T to E - small conversation

3780.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Feb 2011 Thu 09:26 pm   Quoting sonunda   I think Turks may have a problem with the ´u´ . I remember a guy in Urfa who wanted me to teach him how to say ´funny´ because with him it came out as ´fanny´ !    I see a similar problem with foreigners. They can´t say "ü" properly. They say it like "eww"

Thread: Birthday wishes

3781.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Feb 2011 Wed 12:39 pm   Quoting deli No Gokuyum it`s not, it`s just a habit by the way you should say" I start my sentences" no need for the word to   Thanks for the information deli

Thread: another translation attempt

3782.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Feb 2011 Wed 01:10 am Film başlacağına kadar biraz gazete okuyacağım.  Film başlayıncaya kadar/ başlayasıya  kadar, biraz gazete okuyacağım. Why do you say "başlayasıya" kadar. I have never heard such a use. Edited (2/2/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: another translation attempt

3783.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Feb 2011 Wed 01:07 am Evde geleceğimi bekle. Ben eve geleseye gelinceye kadar bekle. -or-  Eve gelmemi bekle.

Thread: Birthday wishes

3784.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Feb 2011 Wed 12:49 am   Quoting sonunda tunci,would you please stop saying ´it´s gonna be like this´ you´re driving me crazy!!  Sometimes I start to my sentences saying "well". Is it also inconvenient? Note: This is a serious question   tunci liked this message

Thread: Noun states and multiple verbs

3785.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jan 2011 Sun 05:42 pm   Quoting bod When more than one verb is used in a sentence, which one provides the noun state for the noun?   For example, I am impressed that you like to read books.  Here there are three verbs:  to be impressed which takes the /da/ state, to like which takes the /dan/ state and to read which takes the /ı/ state. Is this correct? Kitaplar-ı okumak hoşlanman-da yer edilirim. Kitap okumaktan hoşlanmandan etkilendim.  Kitap okumaktan hoşlanman beni etkiledi.  Kitaplar takes an /ı/ suffix from okumak. Okumak doesn´t take a suffix as it is a verb. Hoşlanman takes /da/ suffix from yer etmek as it is a verbal noun. Or would it be better to keep hoşlanmak as a verb and not add a noun state suffix? Kitaplar-ı okumak hoşlanıyorsun yer edilirim.

Thread: Small T to E please :-))

3786.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jan 2011 Sun 05:39 pm   Quoting aed good discharge certificate?    You get it when you finish your military service.

Thread: e to t

3787.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jan 2011 Sun 11:46 am   Quoting tunci     hi,the turkish sentence is not complete..so missing words in the verb ..because  ´´me´´ makes negatif in the verb my guess would be; ´´ They won´t come to England next week´´..(Gelecek hafta ingiltere´ye gelmeyecekler )  I don´t agree. There can be many possibilities like "Gelecek hafta onların İngiltere´ye gelmeye niyetleri var" We need the whole sentence to translate it correctly.   Edited (1/30/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: Absurd news from the Globe

3788.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jan 2011 Sun 11:36 am   Quoting stumpy It is not a problem to solve, it is a situation that one must come to terms with.  Every civilisation in history has commited genocide in one forme or another and those who ignore history are bound to repeat the mistakes of the past    It is a problem. You can´t expect all of a sudden all Turks to accept such a thing. Most of the Turks think deportation was a self defence because many Armenian gangs were killing innocent Turks with the support of enemies. Because of deportation lots of innocent Armenians also died in the desert. It became such a tragedy nobody wanted. It is unfair only one side to take responsibility for what happened. The best option according to me to look forward and have good relations with Armenia. Edited (1/30/2011) by gokuyum Edited (1/30/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: Please help BUYU

3789.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jan 2011 Sun 02:25 am   Quoting britturk Hi I am very intrested in learning about Büyü. I have heard that a lot of Turkish believe in this and  Some strange stories where a person can be "put under a spell". Im quite intrigued by this. For example one of the stories  is that a man who performed  Büyü on a woman to make her fall inlove with him. Yes I know this seems mad but I have heard so many weird and wonderful stories that people actually believe in. I was wondering what you guys think and if it is the case that "buyu" exists then is a person forever under a spell? Or are there ways to break such evil spells ????    To perform a spell (büyü ) is considered as a big sin in Islam religion. And punsihment of it is going to hell. So I think you will not be able to find easily Turkish people who will want to help you. And in Islam it is believed no spell can be succesful unless Allah allows it. So pray to god instead of performing a spell. Edited (1/30/2011) by gokuyum Edited (1/30/2011) by gokuyum Edited (1/30/2011) by gokuyum Edited (1/30/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: Political Views Of Authors

3790.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jan 2011 Sun 02:17 am   Quoting barba_mama I don´t have much difficulty seeing the lines here. Let´s take the nazi movie maker as an example. I don´t deny her talent, especially her technical skills. Now, would I sit down and enjoy a nazi-propaganda film is she made it? No, I wouldn´t. She made this piece to bring across an idea which goes against my own believes. Let´s say she made a non-nazi related movie. Would I watch it? Depends... if she uses my money to kill some Jews in a gas-chamber, I will not buy the movie ticket. If the movie is unrelated in any way to her nazi-past (or present) I have no problem with enjoying a her good movie. There are enough Jews nowadays who drive in a VW beetle and listen to Wagner, right?    A complicated issue. For example Heidegger supported Nazis but then he seemt to have regretted it. Also Knut Hamsun. I like their works but I am not sure about their characters.

Thread: Absurd news from the Globe

3791.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jan 2011 Sun 02:01 am   Quoting stumpy Si++ why do you write "so called" Armenian genocide?  Is it that difficult to beleive?  Should we also be saying "so called" Jewish genocide of the nazi rule?  How many other "so called" genocide have occured around the world? No where in the source document you posted does it say "so called"  Is it because the Armenians were catholics that you say "so called" genocide? As long as there have been humans on this planet there has been genocides.  As soon as one denomination is singled out for elimination by another denomination it is a genocide.      "So called" or not. It is not an easy problem to solve. It makes more angry both sides day by day. And it sows the hostility seeds. Sometimes it is better not to touch the wound. You think only one side is victim. It was a war and many people died from both sides.Only time can heal this wound not a surgeon.

Thread: Hi really small Turkish to English

3792.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jan 2011 Fri 08:37 pm It doesnt mean if you do a job quickly you will be more succesful, it will be only lame.

Thread: Hi really small Turkish to English

3793.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jan 2011 Fri 08:32 pm   Quoting Maureen75 Hi, I tried to translate this but I think I have it wrong so could someone please translate it for me, thank you for your time in advance   hızlı giden atın boku seyrek olur dikkatli ol))))    The shit of the horse that goes fast becomes/falls scattered. Be careful. Edited (1/28/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: Polat will take the revenge of Blue Marmara

3794.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jan 2011 Fri 08:24 pm   Quoting vineyards This movie is like a poison for the young minds. It has created thousands of wannabe Polats. Thinking of the differences and similarities between this and The Godfather: The Godfather also depicted the life of mafia members but it did not so with an eye to revealing a reality of life The movie did that without praising the evil aspects of mafia members or by trying to turn them into idols. In the end, it did create idols but that was thanks to immense acting powers of the likes of Marlon Brando and the excellence of the whole production complete with the theme music. People praised Marlon Brando for the performance or the producers for the work. In the case of Kurtlar Vadisi, it is the mafia life that is presented as an enviable choice not the acting, not the music, not the photography etc. Nevertheless, I condemn Germany´s decision to call off the debut of the movie. The producers are purposefully playing these tricks to bring it up on the agenda by making it appear as if what is told in the movie is relevant to the current political affairs.      I agree with some points but this movie is about Palastine. We should first discuss about this issue. Almost a decade later we start to do our own movies against USA propoganda movies like Rambo series that show almost all Muslims as terrorists or barbaric people. This is an important step. Edited (1/28/2011) by gokuyum Edited (1/28/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: \"Asıl Eksiklik Eksik Olduğumuzu Düşünmekti\"

3795.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jan 2011 Fri 08:16 pm 9 ay boyunca karanlık bir yerde dışarı çıkmayı bekledik ve dünyaya ağlayarak geldik. for nine months we waited to come out in a place dark, and we came to this world crying Pişman gibiydik. Ya da mecburen gelmiş gibi. Biraz büyüdükten sonra, kendimizi bildiğimiz anda, içimizi kemiren, kalbimizi kurcalayan o tuhaf duyguyu hissettik: Bir yerde bir eksik var dedik. Korktuk. "Bunun sebebi ne?" diye sorduk kendimize. Cevabı yapıştırdık: "Demek ki sahip olmadığımız bir şeyler var. O yüzden eksiklik hissediyoruz". Peki, neye sahip olmamız gerekiyor? Çocukken "yaşımız küçük" diye düşündük. Her istediğimizi yapamıyoruz. Kurallar, yasaklar var. Büyüyünce her şey yoluna girecek. Büyüdükçe bir şey değişmedi. Yine huzursuzduk. İçimizden bir ses aynı sözcükleri fısıldıyordu: "Bir eksik var. Kafamız karıştı. Nasıl kurtulacağız bu iğrenç duygudan? Nasıl geçecek bu? " Aklımıza yeni cevaplar geldi: Okulu bitirince geçecek. İşe girince geçecek. Para kazanınca geçecek. Tatile gidince geçecek. Okulu bitirdik. Diploma aldık. İşe girdik. Kartvizit aldık. Çalıştık. Para kazandık. Taşındık. Araba aldık. Çalıştık. Eve yeni eşyalar aldık. Tatile gittik. Dans ettik. Terfi ettik. Kartviziti değiştirdik. Daha çok çalıştık. Daha çok para kazandık. Çalıştık. Çalıştık. Geçmedi. "Bir yerde bir eksik var" hissi, hala orada duruyordu. Bu sefer de "Sevgilimiz olunca geçecek" dedik. "Yalnızlığımız sona erince bu illetten kurtulacağız. Beklemeye başladık. Derken, biri çıktı karşımıza aşık olduk. Ve anında başka biri olduk. Daha güçlü, daha güzel, daha akıllı biri. Hesap cüzdanları, kartvizitler, hatta ilaçlar bile böyle hissetmemizi sağlamamıştı. Sevgilimizin gözlerinde, daha önce bize verilmemiş kadar büyük sevgi ve hayranlık gördük. Sevgilimizin gözlerinde Tanrı´ yı gördük. Işığı gördük."Tünelin ucundaki ışık bu olmalı" diye düşündük "kurtulduk". Sonra bir gün, daha dün bize deli gibi aşık olan insan çekip gidiverdi. Ya da artık eskisi gibi sevmediğini söyledi. Ya da başka birine aşık olduğunu söyledi. Ya da daha kötüsü, başka birine aşık oldu ama söylemedi. Telefonu açmamasından, elimizi tutmamasından, sevişmemesine bahane bulmak zorunda kalmamak için biz uyuduktan sonra yatağa gelmesinden anladık, bir terslik olduğunu. Belki de sevmekten vazgeçen veya terk eden sevgilimiz değildi, bizdik. Fark etmez. Sonuçta aşk bitti. Şimdi her yer bomboş. Şimdi tekrar yalnızız. Başladığımız yere döndük. Yıllarca uğraştık, eksiğin ne olduğunu bulamadık. Halbuki her şeyi denedik, her yere baktık. Öyle mi? Bakmadığımız bir yer kaldı. İçimize bakmadık. Eksik parçayı dışarıda aradık ama içimizde saklı olabileceğini akıl etmedik. Birilerini sevdik, birileri bizi sevsin diye uğraştık ama kendimizi sevmedik. Şaşıracak bir şey yok, tabii ki sevmedik. Kendimizi sevsek bu kadar koşturur muyduk? Canımız yanmasın diye duvarların ardına saklanır mıydık? Kendimizi boş sanıp doldurmaya uğraşır mıydık? Terk edilmekten korkar mıydık? Asıl eksiklik, eksik olduğumuzu düşünmekti. Asıl eksiklik, çareyi başkasında aramaktı. Hayatın matematiği farklı; iki yarımı toplayınca bir etmiyor. İnsan tek başına mutsuzsa başka biriyle de mutlu olamıyor. "Herkes beni sevsin" diye uğraşınca kimse gerçekten sevmiyor, herkes sevgisine şart koyuyor, sınır koyuyor. Oysa "kendime duyduğum sevgi bana yeter" diye düşününce, kendimizi olduğumuz gibi kabullenince yarım tamamlanıyor. Her şey bir oluyor. İşte o zaman perde aralanıyor. Acı diniyor. İşte o zaman başka ´bir´i bir araya gelerek, hesabın kitabın, korkunun kaygının hüküm sürdüğü sahte bir sevgi yerine, gerçek bir sevgi yaratılabiliyor. Sonsuz Sevgilerimle... _____CAN DÜNDAR_____

Thread: öyle bir geçer zamanki, cloggies, and prejudice

3796.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jan 2011 Fri 08:00 pm   Quoting mltm I do not understand why its ratings are so high. i watch it from time to time from youtube but when it is on tv I do not watch it because on internet i can play forward. it has a lot of crying and pure emotional exploitation scenes that last for minutes.    This scene even effected me. I am thinking about watching it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru8BeJnp1sw

Thread: Polat will take the revenge of Blue Marmara

3797.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jan 2011 Fri 07:46 pm Who watched the movie and how is it? I especially wonder Erdal Beşikçioğlu´s performance. I am a fan of him from Behzat Ç. serial. Edited (1/28/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: Interesting news from Turkie

3798.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Jan 2011 Fri 07:37 pm   Quoting si++     No. Things seem to have settled down.   I am against banning this serial but I am sick of reading and watching Harem life in Ottoman Empire. What is so interesting about it?

Thread: E to T

3799.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jan 2011 Wed 06:48 pm   Quoting Tremuska i think. you wrote wrong. you want to say "would you like to eat an apple?" Elma yemek istermisin? (We turks are not using "bir" (a/an), if we don´t give especially the number or pieces of everything )    I dont see anything wrong in the tone of these sentences. I don´t understand what bothered you.What is wrong with saying "We Turks" ? I also say sometimes "We Turks" when I talk about cultural things. Edited (1/26/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: Political Views Of Authors

3800.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jan 2011 Wed 04:38 pm   Quoting barba_mama     It depends on what is field of work is. Pascal´s math is still math. There is not intervening of God in his mathematical work, so as an atheist you should not care about Pascal´s views in other parts of his life. However, if somebody is a pedofile, and writes books about children´s psychology and their development, you SHOULD take his sexual views into mind. There is too big a chance that his sexual preferences will influence his professional views.      What if a pedophile writes a book about history, does this make the book less valuable?

Thread: Political Views Of Authors

3801.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jan 2011 Wed 04:36 pm   Quoting barba_mama     Hitler´s work was not up to standard. If it was, he probably would have just kept on paiting little trees and houses. Instead, he was pissed of since he did not get the credit for his work that he thought he deserved. You can also turn this thought around. Hitler was a vegetarian. Should we think better of Hitler now that we know he was all for animal rights?    Who decided Hitler´s works were not up to standart? And what if someone thinks they are valuable. Should we blame him/her?

Thread: E to T

3802.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Jan 2011 Wed 04:28 pm   Quoting zeytinne      ..and also YOU Turks must write ister_ misin    It is not fair to criticize someone who wants to help this way. You could warn him/her gently. Edited (1/26/2011) by gokuyum Edited (1/26/2011) by gokuyum Türkçeci and tunci liked this message

Thread: Interesting news from Turkie

3803.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Jan 2011 Sun 08:19 am Wonderful video. I will add this to my blog.

Thread: The over use of abbreviated English

3804.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jan 2011 Sat 06:04 pm It became a habit of me I want to get rid of. But you should understand this. People always prefer the shortest way to express themselves. Because of that for example maybe a hundred years  later  "u" can take the place of "you" in written language. Edited (1/22/2011) by gokuyum Edited (1/23/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: Translate this sentence into English please!

3805.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Jan 2011 Thu 01:12 pm   Quoting unzere 31579 sın sayıuı dörtü çıkqr.ikınxi seyeya üc eklee. Thanks! Is this Turkish? Or do I speak another language?   Edited (1/20/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: T to E please

3806.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Jan 2011 Thu 01:07 pm   Quoting Hindistan    Betrayal seperated them, Revenge will unite them. My try... This may be the one of the possible translations...this is the literal one...context is unclear to me...nevertheless plz wait for corrections...         tunci liked this message

Thread: Political Views Of Authors

3807.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Jan 2011 Thu 12:23 am   Quoting barba_mama It depends on what the author is writing about, and how these views influence the writing. There is a difference between a romantic novel, a thriller, or a column in a newspaper.   Let me give an example. For example Pascal was a very religious man, does that have to decrease his works´ value for an atheist?  Or for example some Norwegians think Knut Hamsun was a traitor; does that have to  make his works less valuable for Norwegians? Edited (1/20/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: Manic Depression / Bipolar

3808.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Jan 2011 Thu 12:16 am I have obsessive- compulsive disorder and it is not a problem for me to accept I have such an illness as a Turk. I realised I had a problem and told my family I needed to see a psychiatrist. At first they thought I didn´t have a serious thing and didnt want me to take to a doctor. But I insisted. And I started to medical treatment 10 years ago. There are many psyhiciatrists and pshcologists in every city in Turkey you can get help. But it is a taboo to say "I have a mental illness" in society. And families will never easily want to accept their children have that kind of illness. So you should first persuade the person. There are many Turkish sites about mental illnesses on internet. Here is a site:   http://www.psikonet.com/konu.asp?kid=160 Edited (1/20/2011) by gokuyum barba_mama liked this message

Thread: Need an advice

3809.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jan 2011 Wed 11:58 pm   Quoting tunci    Merhaba Valeria..im happy to help you on this. you can say couple of sentences to that person whose father deceased  firstly you should say ´´ Başınız sağolsun´´[May your life be spared (formula of condolence)] and  then ´´ Allah rahmet eylesin´´ (may God mercy on him ).. this two phrases will be sufficient ..       Edited (1/19/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: I need help

3810.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jan 2011 Wed 11:53 pm Here is the fees of private universities last year.   http://freeaider.blogcu.com/2009-2010-ozel-universite-ucretleri/5802833

Thread: uygarlık or kültür

3811.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jan 2011 Wed 11:48 pm   Quoting ogrenci3000 Could anyone explain to me what´s the difference between uygarlık and kültür? In the dictionary they both mean civilization. Do they have different uses? Thanks in advance the person with the deep knowledge of Turkish that give me an answer.   uygarlık means civilisation kültür means culture

Thread: Hokkabaz help??

3812.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jan 2011 Wed 03:15 am   Quoting twentysix26 merhaba   I´m kind of new to the Turkish language, but for a while I´ve been trying to learn more about Turkey and it´s culture (It´s in my blood a couple of generations back). Today I watched Hokkabaz online without subtitles and since i can´t speak it (yet!) I got lost for nearly the last half of the movie. I was wondering if someone that´s watched the movie could help me figure it out?   I understood what was going on up until Fatma disappears in the box. Iskander then hypnotizes everyone? I don´t understand how they got away, why Fatma appeared out of nowhere and why she ran away with the Baba- I did get that Fatma and the weird guy from the wedding used to swindle grooms for their valuables though..   Thanks in advance for your help and for this website! I hope to keep learning more and more   -26     Edited (2/21/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: Political Views Of Authors

3813.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jan 2011 Wed 02:31 am Do you think we should appreciate an author´s works without considering his/her political views? How can we act if we dont like his/her ideas? There are many great authors who were/are criticised because of their political opinions by people. Some of them were/are accused of being a traitor, some of them of being a religious fanatic, some of them of being a communist and many many other things. Do you think their approaches decrease the value of their works?   In my opinion we should appreciate authors´ works without considering their political views. Because everything change. It can also change what is right or wrong in the future. Yesterday´s traitor can become tomorrow´s hero. Or yesterday´s fanatic can become tomorrow´´s humanist, etc... Look at the past and now you can see the examples. Edited (1/19/2011) by gokuyum Edited (1/19/2011) by gokuyum Edited (1/19/2011) by gokuyum Edited (1/19/2011) by gokuyum Edited (1/19/2011) by gokuyum Edited (1/19/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: E to T my attempt :-)

3814.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jan 2011 Wed 02:11 am       Edited (1/19/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: E to T my attempt :-)

3815.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jan 2011 Wed 02:06 am   Quoting Inscrutable Oldukça yoğun bir şekilde Türkçe çalişyorum. Inşallah bir gün Türkçe yi akıcı konuşurım. Çok sağol herkes   Impressing.  "Çok sağol herkes" sounds weird  "(hepiniz) çok sağolun" is better. Edited (1/19/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: tıpkı / aynısı

3816.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Jan 2011 Mon 05:54 am   Quoting poppy1 I have been doing some practice writting and having it checked by a Turk.  They keep having a go at me as I seem to use  ´tıpkısını´ when they tell me I must use ´aynısını´ For example I wrote -  Bu elbisenin  tıpkısını  istiyorum. But they tell me I can not and I must write Bu elbisenin aynısını istiyorum.   I thought that tıpkı is like ´identical´ / ´same´ so can someone please explain why it is wrong to use it ? I don´t understand "tıpkı" and "aynı" have similar meanings but we prefer to use "aynı" most of the time. The answer to your question is that when you google "tıpkısını" you get 16.000 results but when you google "aynısını" you get 2.910.000 results. So choice is yours which one to use.

Thread: E to T

3817.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jan 2011 Sun 05:55 pm   Quoting Inscrutable Bir Sorun değil (Senin) Evin değil anladım. It´s not a problem. I understand that its not your house.  Thank you my dear friends in TC.

Thread: Turkish message translation to eng.needed,thanks.

3818.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jan 2011 Sun 05:53 pm   Quoting deli      hello cristina  the things which I write to you may be difficult for you? I`ll be happy if you write to me translated to russian/ No Im not living in Lithuania but I worked in contruction ozas? for two years and I couldn`t remember you  .really this is a great lose for me, I wanted so much to know/ meet you when in ? and yes my Russian isn`t very good and hopefully one day you will  come to Turkey then we will find the opportunity to meet, take care  my try but wait for corrections "sana zahmet" maeans something like that "it will be an inconvenience for you"   Edited (1/16/2011) by gokuyum deli liked this message

Thread: E to T

3819.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jan 2011 Sat 06:03 pm   Quoting zeytinne      bisküvitleri kim (satın) aldı ?   My try...

Thread: T to E please SEVDA BİR ATEŞ BULDU SENDE Edip CANSEVER

3820.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Jan 2011 Thu 02:12 am   Quoting scalpel     Then you -who falls on himself like a moonlight through a window- are not like yourself nor somebody else.   And finally a bottom fish flapping its fins in a water gap suggests a season that fits nobody.   (goku, henry ya ettik içine şiirin  ya da harika bir iş çıkarttık!   I am sure Henry will make the translation more beautiful.

Thread: T to E please SEVDA BİR ATEŞ BULDU SENDE Edip CANSEVER

3821.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Jan 2011 Thu 02:10 am   Quoting Henry Arrrgh   So should it be Ve sevimsiz bir terlik gibi duran odan   And your room lingers/remains like an unloved slipper??? sevimsiz = unloveable, unlovely I don´t think is used in English, lovely = beautiful, güzel, unlovely = ugly, çirkin   Henry " durmak" here means " to resemble", "to look like" Thank you for your information, I will correct it. Edited (1/13/2011) by gokuyum Henry liked this message

Thread: T to E please SEVDA BİR ATEŞ BULDU SENDE Edip CANSEVER

3822.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Jan 2011 Thu 01:56 am   Quoting Henry My attempt at the English version SEVDA BİR ATEŞ BULDU SENDE   Sevda bir ateş buldu sende, eğilip öptü seni Love has found a fire in you, bent down and kissed you. Artık kimse denizi bilmiyor. No one knows the sea anymore. Dirse...klerini masaya koyuşundan belli It is obvious from the way you put your elbows on the table  Gelip geçen bir günü bitirmek istemediğini That you don´t want to finish the day as a passer-by Sevda bir umut buldu sende. Love has found a hope in you. Ey bir yolcu listesinde bir ölüyü arayan Oh! You who search for a death in the list of the dying (more literal) Oh, you who search for a dead person in the obituaries (death notices) Artık kimse gözlerini bilmiyor. Nobody knows your eyes anymore Şunu imzala Sign that Bir mektup, bir telgraf alındısı değil Neither a letter nor a telegram Unutulmuş bir sevdadır kapısını çalan It is a forgotten love which knocks on your door.  Ve sevimsiz bir terlik gibi duran odan And like an unloved slipper that lingers in your room Kimse artık bir şey giymek istemiyor. nobody wants to wear a thing anymore.    Sonra bir pencereden kendine Ayışığı gibi vuran sen Ne sana ne başkasına benziyor.  Ve işte bir dip balığı su boşluğunda Çırparaktan yüzgeçlerini Hiç kimseye uymayan bir mevsim öneriyor   Edip CANSEVER     Great translation Henry. But you have one mistake. The room itself resembles an unlovely slipper. Edited (1/13/2011) by gokuyum Henry liked this message

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3823.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Jan 2011 Thu 01:50 am   Quoting scalpel     I think "telgraf alındısı" is a paper which is signed by the recipient while the "telegraph message" is delivered to them, and you can translate it here as "telegraph message".   It seems logical when we think this way. I will correct my translation.

Thread: Turkish to English---Evliya Çelebi

3824.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Jan 2011 Thu 01:35 am I couldn´t find the meaning of "aları aları" But i found the meaning of a word "alar". There can be a connection between them. It means " darkness in day time", or "liar, fake darkness". So "aları aları bakmak" can mean "to look at darkly" It can mean "to look at without thinking anything" Edited (1/13/2011) by gokuyum Edited (1/13/2011) by gokuyum

Thread: Turkish to English---Evliya Çelebi

3825.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Jan 2011 Thu 01:22 am   Quoting Seeker Hello there, I´m curently working through a passage from Evliya Çelebi´s Book of Travels. If anyone can help out with Turkish to English translation, I would be most grateful. Here is the passage, in modern Turkish: Yedi yıldir bir Tatar´ı sihir ile eşek yapıp, bir köşede saman ve ot yer. Ekmek de verseler yer. İnsanlara karışmaz, ağzından salyaları akar, adama aları aları bakar, hiç konuşmaz. Bazan asıl yurdu hatırına gelip eşek gibi segâh makamında Acem kerenayı gibi anırdığı vakit işitenlerin dudağı çatlar.    For seven years he has made a Tatar behave like a donkey with magic and he has eaten straw and grass. He even eats bread if they give it. He doesn´t socialize with people, he salivates, he looks at people (aları aları ?) and never talks. When he remembers his home and starts to bray like a donkey with a segah melody like a Persian kerranay (some kind of a flute), the lips of people who hear him; crack.   Thanks in advance for any help given. In case anyone´s curious or a glutton for punishment, here´s the Ottoman Turkish version of that passage: Yedi yıldir bir Tatar yığıdin sihr ile hımâr edüp bir köşe-i küncde durup saman ve otluk yer. Ekmek dahi verserler yer, dâ’imâ benȋ âdem ile ihtilât etmeyüp ağzından salyarı akup âdeme aları aları bakup şeb [ü] rûz summün bükmün durur. Kâhîce hâtırına vatan-ı aslîsi gelüp eşek gibi segâh makâmında Acem kerrenâyı gibi anırdıka sadâsın istiâ’ eden âdemlerin zehresi çâk olur. Hakîrin dahi ciğeri hun olup Hudâ halâs ede demeden gayri çâremiz olmadı, ammâ yine ne kâra koşsalar işler, ammâ nutuk yokdur. Bir mahbub yiğitdir. Since I hear Ottoman Turkish is hard even for Turkish speakers, please don´t feel any need to translate it. Thanks again!     Turkish translation of the text is not very literal. But translating it will give you an opinion about the text so my translation is above. Also there are not the Turkish translations of last two sentences. Edited (1/13/2011) by gokuyum Edited (1/13/2011) by gokuyum

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3826.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Jan 2011 Thu 12:03 am   Quoting scalpel     Love has found a fire in you,bend down and kissed you. No one knows the sea anymore.   It is obvious from the way you put your elbows on the table That you don´t want to finish a day passing away Love has found a hope in you. O! You who search for a dead in a list of dead Nobody knows your eyes anymore Sign that Neither a letter nor a telegraph message. It is a forgotten love which knocks on your door. And your room that seems like an ugly slipper (or " it is your room that seems like an unlovely slipper") Nobody wants to wear anything anymore.   Your turn. You can correct my mistakes if you want.       Edited (1/13/2011) by gokuyum Edited (1/13/2011) by gokuyum Edited (1/13/2011) by gokuyum Edited (1/13/2011) by gokuyum Edited (1/13/2011) by gokuyum Edited (1/13/2011) by gokuyum Edited (1/13/2011) by gokuyum Edited (1/13/2011) by gokuyum Edited (1/13/2011) by gokuyum Edited (1/13/2011) by gokuyum slavica liked this message

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3827.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Jan 2011 Wed 09:31 pm   Quoting Inscrutable Ben eve gidip (yemek) yiyeceğim. I will go home and eat (I will then eat).

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3828.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Jan 2011 Wed 09:25 pm If you translate half of it i will translate other half. I like Edip Cansever very much.

Thread: Polat will take the revenge of Blue Marmara

3829.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Jan 2011 Wed 04:27 pm   Quoting scalpel       You should have added:apart from the one who plays Polat Alemdar in the series. He is the most "kazma" Turkish actor I have ever seen. He is as equally untalented as S.Stallone!   Of course he is not as talented as others. But in years he has improved his acting.

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3830.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Jan 2011 Wed 02:29 am I watched all episodes of "Valley of the Wolves" series. And I am also aware of the political change in the subtext. I don´t approve it. I watch the series because there are action and talented actors. But movies are different. I like brave movies. And I think criticising U.S.A. so harshly in the first movie and now Israil in the second movie requires courage. I appreciate scenarists. Someone has to tell the tragedy of the people in the occupied countries. Using cinema for that purpose is very effective. I think we should support this kind of movies.

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3831.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Jan 2011 Tue 10:10 pm   Quoting deli      Iyi akşamlar Harpoon, may I make a suggestion for the bit about (deal with them ) maybe halletmek? what do you think   "Onları halletmeye çalış" deli liked this message

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3832.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Jan 2011 Tue 08:23 pm Second trailer is incredible. I look forward to watch the movie. Nobody talks about banning Rambo movies but when it comes to a Turkish movie everybody start to protest it. This is called hypocrisy.

Thread: Turk to Eng Please...

3833.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jan 2011 Mon 07:59 pm   Quoting zeytinne hahaha  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYFe8E5mMPo&feature=related   I watched that episode. It was hillarious.

Thread: turkish to english - a little bit long sorry!

3834.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jan 2011 Mon 07:57 pm   Quoting tomac Could it be also "merhaba demek", instead of "merhabaya demek" ? You are right. I didn´t see it. It must be "merhaba demek"   deli liked this message

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3835.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jan 2011 Mon 07:23 pm   Quoting deli Haklısın, anlamıyorum/anlamadım , fakat merhaba demek hoştu.   my try but wait for corrections     Edited (1/10/2011) by gokuyum deli liked this message

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3836.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jan 2011 Mon 07:21 pm   Quoting Henry It seems like a complex play with words to me. My try is a bit like deli´s for the first bit. If I continue to try to understand what you wrote, I know that you also will not understand that I do not understand it, Ece will join the conversation, at least let me finish it. The last bit also had me confused  laf Ece karışacak bitireyim bari. Hocama teşekkürler  laf iyice karışacak bitireyim bari

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3837.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jan 2011 Mon 07:18 pm   Quoting deli oh you stopped   maddi ve manevi olarak gücüm belki bunları yapmaya yetiyor ama inanki elimden gelenin en iyisini sana yapmaya çalıyorum.     maybe Im  physically (or monetary)  and spirutially strong  enough to do this , but believe that I am trying to the best I can possibly do for you ne karım nede bir başkası için bukadar çabalamıyorum Im not making this much effort for neither my wife nor anyone else    ama herzaman dediğim gibi senin yerin benim yanımda çok özel ve değerli. but like I am saying all the time your place with me is very special and valuable sen buna ister aşk, ister yaramazlık ne dersen de you can call it either love or naughtiness or anything     ben bir isim bulamadım  I couldn´t find a name for it adını sen koy you name it son olarakta neden facebookta ilişki yok olarak belirttin?? and finally why have you made it clear on face book that there isn´t a relationship    lütfen bana bunun açıklamasını yap please can you explain this to me   vede hemen ilişkim var olarakda değiştir and immediately change it as "have a relationship" senden cevap bekliyorum I`m waiting for a reply /answer from you    tried a bit     Edited (1/10/2011) by gokuyum Honeylovee liked this message

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3838.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jan 2011 Mon 07:07 pm   Quoting sonunda ben seninle oynamıyorum sadece seni seviyorum. evet gerçek bu. seni aramak için cep telefonuma 100 erou yani 194 türk lirası fatura geldi. Bunu sana söylemek zorunda kaldım.  I´m not fooling with you;  only I love you.  Yes it´s true,to call you on my mobile; a bill came for 100 euros ie 194 Lira. I had no choice but to tell you this.   çünkü sen diyorsunki, telefonu kapatırken hiçbirşey söylemedin bye falan because you are saying that "while you hang up the phone you didn´t say anything  like bye, etc... (?)   işin gerçeği söylemeyemedim çünkü param müsade etmedi ve telefon kesildi. şimdi anlıyormusun neden birşey diyemediğimi? As a matter of fact I couldn´t say  because my money didn´t allow me  and my phone went dead. now do you understand the reason I didn´t say anything? işte buyüzden there it is-for this reason ayrıca ben seninle oynamıyorum . eğer oynamış olsaydım senin için bukadar şeyler yapmazdım. seni aramazdım seninle konuşmazdım besides I´m not playing with you. If I were I wouldn´t have done this much for you,I wouldn´t have called you or spoken to you.     ama seni sevdiğim için senin için herşeyi yapmaya çalışıyorum but I´m working/trying to do everything for you because I love you.       Honeylovee liked this message

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3839.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Jan 2011 Mon 06:55 pm yar = sevgili = beloved, dear, darling   I prefered to translate it as "my love"

Thread: translation to english please

3840.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jan 2011 Sun 11:08 pm   Quoting sonunda Marion´s translation is how we would say it in English not knowing the specific gender of the person even if it is singular not plural. eg. We might shout ´there´s someone at the door/on the phone´ to which the reply might be ´what do they want?´ even if there is only one person because you don´t know if it´s he or she.   Interesting. Thank you for information. I will delete my post.

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3841.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jan 2011 Sun 08:28 pm Edited (1/9/2011) by gokuyum

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3842.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jan 2011 Sun 08:25 pm   Quoting deli   vefası eksik yarım my love whose loyalty is lacking

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3843.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Jan 2011 Sun 08:22 pm git means go. it means dog.   so he/she insults him/her caliing him/her dog.

Thread: trk to eng pls

3844.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jan 2011 Sat 07:50 pm   Quoting Henry     My try as a learner for the first bit - (wait for corrections) hiç umrumda bile değil yaşamışım yaşamamışım. I don´t care whether I have lived or not. bu hayatın ammına koyuyorum (I guess this next bit is vulgar so I won´t attempt a precise translation) I am having sex with this ´Hayat´. I fuck this life bu gün varım yarın yokum This day (today) I am(exist), tomorrow I´m (exist) not. evvel allah with God´s help sen beni affetmişsin affetmemişsin umrumda bile değil I don´t even care whether you have forgiven me or not.           Henry liked this message

Thread: Sorry posted in the wrong place need some help with phrases Thanks

3845.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Jan 2011 Sat 07:40 pm   Quoting sonunda     Don´t upset me. What did I do to?-I was always honet. I am not like other people. I was in a difficult situation. It´s boring Don´t do it like this. I can´t rely on you,it´s very difficult.   It is not your mistake. It must be "benzemem"  sonunda liked this message

Thread: Quiz 8 (for learners)

3846.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Dec 2010 Fri 04:54 pm   Quoting MarioninTurkey      Hee Hee : it also is linked to the subject, unlike "the quick brown fox...." even though the addition of "j" is a bit contrived!       Yes, it is ironic. I found it here.

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3847.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Dec 2010 Fri 12:28 am Türkçe´yi kendi kendime öğrendim. (In this form without -i suffix sentence sounds very weird) Kendi kendime Türkçe(yi) öğrendim. (In this form with -i suffix sentence sounds a little weird)   It is interesting. Edited (12/31/2010) by gokuyum

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3848.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Dec 2010 Fri 12:14 am   Quoting bella2509 hi every one hope you all had a nice holiday and i wish you all the best for the new year. i have just received this message can you please translate for me please. hej du er meget smukke. du er meget smukke.   They are not Turkish.

Thread: new learner need help

3849.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Dec 2010 Fri 12:13 am   Quoting Henry My try as a learner - (and many thanks to Gokuyum for corrections) Seni dinliyorum ama ne söylediğini anlamıyorum I am listening to you but I don´t understand what you say.  Seni dinledim ama ne söylediğini anlamadım. I listened to you but I didn´t understand what you said. Bir saat sonra evimde olacağım. After 1 hour I will be at my home.      Henry liked this message

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3850.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Dec 2010 Fri 12:09 am   Quoting Inscrutable Türkçe´yi kendi kendime öğrendim.

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3851.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Dec 2010 Fri 12:09 am   Quoting Inscrutable Türkçe´yi kendi kendime öğrendim.

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3852.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Dec 2010 Thu 07:46 pm   Quoting scalpel     Have a nice day...And I wish you a happy new year one day in advance in case I might not see you again tomorrow.  Thank you. I wish you too. Take care.

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3853.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Dec 2010 Thu 05:49 pm   Quoting scalpel     I really appreciate your success in finding the only absurd entry of the whole thread to post on here   You are free to what you want to think. I made my point. I don´t want to argue anymore. Lets leave the decision to members. Have a nice day.   Edited (12/30/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Quiz 7 (for learners)

3854.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Dec 2010 Thu 04:20 pm   Quoting MarioninTurkey Fatih Erdoğan wrote a book for kids called: Beş benekli baykuş bana bakıyor (5 spotted owls are looking at me).   A bit like Dr Seuss´ tongue twisters!!! a good example

Thread: Quiz 8 (for learners)

3855.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Dec 2010 Thu 04:18 pm   Quoting MarioninTurkey Göküyüm: a slightly different but related question. In English, when learning to type, we use the sentence: The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. This uses every letter in the English alphabet (26) - some more than once. Is there a sentence in Turkish which uses every letter in the Turkish alphabet? Here it is: Bir cümlede yirmi dokuz harfin hepsini, j dahil kullanmak övünç kaynağı olan güç bir iştir. There are repetitions but it has all 29 letters.

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3856.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Dec 2010 Thu 03:35 pm "Artık bu hatayı düzletme konusunda pes etmek zamanı gelmiştir. Anlatım bozuklukları bile bir yerden sonra dili konuşan kitlenin anlamlı bir çoğunluğunun kabulüne mazhar olmuşsa denecek bir şey yoktur. Dil konuşanların tercihlerinden neşet eden, sadece ve sadece istatistiki doğrular içeren bir semboller sistemidir denir kimi dilbilim okullarında. (1)   (1)http://www.eksisozluk.com/show.asp?t=geri%20iade%20etmek  13. mesaj

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3857.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Dec 2010 Thu 03:20 pm   Quoting scalpel     You mix the things up quite a lot. There is too a big difference between idiotically using the two words one immediately after another which are of the same meaning (as in geri iade, nüans farkı, örneğin mesela,etc.) and creating a modified meaning to a loanword (as in serbest, münakaşa). Every language is free to do this. For example the English word kiosk is from Turkish köşk (a large stately house;a manor house) and used for a small structure where newspapers are sold or so. I think we have better options than rough populism to prove that language is a living organism.  Even it cause ambiguity to say so you have to accept it as it is if the people use it that way. This can seem you as populism but the opposite approach seems me as elitism.

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3858.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Dec 2010 Thu 02:05 pm   Quoting scalpel     Then why you are so fond of replying each and every grammar question that is asked? How would you explain this paradox?    I just want to help. If they don´t want me to answer, I will give up answering. By the way thank you for your book advice I will read it.

Thread: Verme lyrics Turkish & English

3859.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Dec 2010 Thu 10:25 am If you can write verses you translated under the original ones I can check it. This way it would be easier. Edited (12/30/2010) by gokuyum

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3860.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Dec 2010 Thu 10:20 am   Quoting Henry My try as a learner - (wait for a native to check) Seni dinliyorum ama ne söylediğini anlamıyorum I am listening to you but I don´t understand what you said. Seni dinledim ama ne söylediğini anlamadım. I listened to you but I didn´t understand what you said. Bir saat sonra evimde olacağım. After 1 hour I will be at my home.     Henry liked this message

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3861.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Dec 2010 Wed 10:46 pm   Quoting Sonbahar Çocuklarımın her ikisi de erkek.     Edited (12/30/2010) by gokuyum Sonbahar liked this message

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3862.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Dec 2010 Wed 10:09 pm delete this post Edited (12/29/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/30/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/30/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/31/2010) by gokuyum

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3863.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Dec 2010 Wed 10:00 pm   Quoting zeytinne  What is this "geri iade" ?    İade is an Arabic word and it means return or give back. When you say "geri iade" you say something like give back back. This seems absurd but foreign words gain different meanings in other languages. When you say "geri iade" in Turkish it makes sense. I guess Turks give a meaning to iade as  "to give " and they use it with "geri (back)". This is a very normal thing. This is called semantic shift. Edited (12/29/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/29/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/29/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/29/2010) by gokuyum

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3864.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Dec 2010 Wed 09:17 pm   Quoting scalpel     Tamam, google "geri iade" and see the result: 604.000. Just because it is repeated 604.000 times, doesn´t make it any less idiotic, right? Don´t trust such numbers too much. When possible, preferring the shortest way is what we all do in any language in the world...but we must not allow the language to be reduced back to such a degree as it was 1000000 years ago,right? A tiny note: I highly recommend you to read her (Feyza Hepçilingirler,the writer of that text) book with the name "Türkçe Dilbilgisi, Öğretenlere ve Öğrenenlere" before talking about the Turkish Grammar.    I don´t teach Turkish. And I always said I hate grammer. Check my profile. I am not interested in Turkish grammer. I am only interested in literature and philosophy. I can easily accept that I am wrong when I made a mistake. I  said people don´t obey the rule. I haven´t denied such a grammer rule. If people don´t obey the rule, it has to change. It is what I want to say.

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3865.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Dec 2010 Wed 09:11 pm   Quoting scalpel You are free to say "örneğin mesela", "nüans farkı", "alternatif seçenek" and so..I wouldn´t mind  that at all...    It is not important if I say so. It is important if people say so. You can´t do anything. I think people say "nüans farkı" and maybe they will say the others. You have to accept it. Do you have any objection to wrong usage of serbest, peş and many others? Edited (12/29/2010) by gokuyum [accept] Edited (12/29/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/29/2010) by gokuyum

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3866.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Dec 2010 Wed 08:58 pm "geri iade" can seem you idiotic but it is not. There can be such  semantic shifts in languages. For example serbest means "başı bağlı(dependent)" in Farsi but it is the opposite in Turkish. Also peş means "ön(front)" in Farsi but we use it as "arka(back)". Even if you think  it is idiotic to use them this way you can´t do anything to stop people. Because only people can decide what is proper to use in any language not linguists. If you try to set rules people don´t obey you will create another language; an elite language like Ottoman Turkish. You should accept the language as it is. Language is like a living organism. It grows and changes. Nobody can stop this. Grammer rules also have to change. They are not like ten commandments. Edited (12/29/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/29/2010) by gokuyum

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3867.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Dec 2010 Wed 07:23 pm   Quoting scalpel     When the subject is singular, the predicate is singular: o geldi When the subject is person+plural, the predicate is plural: onlar geldiler When the subject is animal/thing+plural,the predicate is singular: onlar geldi   for more information please click the following link http://www.baktabul.net/turkce/23784-ozne-yuklem-uyumu.html    Thank god a good explanation. But i googled this and the results are interesting. "Adamlar geldiler" 2.600 results "Adamlar geldi"  15.500 results As you can see people prefer not to obey the rule. Why? Because people always prefer the shortest way to say something. Because of that many words, verbs changed. They became shorter. Also rules can change.   Edited (12/29/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/29/2010) by gokuyum

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3868.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Dec 2010 Wed 06:38 pm   Quoting zeytinne both my children ( male both )     Thank you.   "both my children" means "her iki çocuğum" "male both" means "(her) ikisi de erkek"

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3869.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Dec 2010 Wed 06:34 pm By the way there is not such a rule as you can´t use two "ler" in the same santence. Sometimes I prefer to say so sometimes not. Onlar geldiler. (When you google it you find 6.790 results) Onlar geldi. (When you google it you find 21.200 results) Most of the time I prefer the second one. Edited (12/29/2010) by gokuyum

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3870.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Dec 2010 Wed 06:28 pm   Quoting Inscrutable Orada havlular var, ama  çok temiz  değiller.    There are towels over there, but they are not very clean (for instance in a hotel)   Thank you    Sentence has two parts. In the second part there is a hidden subject "onlar" When we don´t say it we should use "ler" at the end of the verb to point out the plurality. Sonbahar liked this message

Thread: TDK ban some idioms

3871.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Dec 2010 Wed 06:17 pm I found an explanation: In the old times after paying their debts men would feel like they were wealthy enough to have another wife. So their wives would break one of the two spoons at the home to make them remember that they are still poor.So men called their wives as spoon enemies.

Thread: TDK ban some idioms

3872.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Dec 2010 Wed 06:01 pm   Quoting deli or maybe enemy of the spoon means she is so lazy she dosent cookbit like me    Yes it can be

Thread: TDK ban some idioms

3873.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Dec 2010 Wed 02:58 pm Kaşık düşmanı Enemy of the spoon   Two interpretations: 1)She is the enemy of the spoon because she uses it non-stop.That means she eats a lot. 2)She is the enemy of the spoon because she hates using it. Maybe she prefers eating with a ladle. So that means she eats a lot too.   I guess second one is more logical. Edited (12/29/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/29/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: TDK ban some idioms

3874.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Dec 2010 Wed 02:43 pm   Quoting scalpel   Here goes my silly try Ağustostan sonra ekilen darıdan, kocasından sonra kalkan karıdan hayır gelmez Neither planting corn after Augy, nor a wife wakes up later than her hubby is good     Poetic like the original. I liked it. One of the characteristic of our idioms is being them poetic. Maybe you can find a poetic connection between "karı" and "darı" in English.This would be better.

Thread: TDK ban some idioms

3875.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Dec 2010 Wed 02:23 pm Do you have sexist idioms like these?

Thread: Turkish to English

3876.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Dec 2010 Wed 02:21 pm   Quoting deli gokuyum teşekkur ederim , düzeltlmelerini takdir ediyorum    Thank you. I appreciate your effort.

Thread: turkish to english

3877.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Dec 2010 Wed 02:07 pm   Quoting Henry     ´Talk to´ is more commonly used, but both can be used in my opinion. ´Talk with´ implies both people were talking. ´Talk to´ also means both people are talking, but can sometimes mean one person is doing most of the talking. I talk with my overseas friends on Skype. I talk to my overseas friends on Skype. (Bence aynı The same for ´speak/spoke with´ and ´speak/spoke to´.      Thank you for your expianation. Have a nice day. Edited (12/29/2010) by gokuyum Henry liked this message

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3878.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Dec 2010 Wed 01:52 pm Here are the worst ones:   “Kadın erkeğin şeytanıdır”, Woman is the devil of man. “Ağustostan sonra ekilen darıdan, kocasından sonra kalkan karıdan hayır gelmez”, It doesnt come good  from the millet which was sowed after August and from the woman who wakes up after his husband. “Oğlan babadan öğrenir sofra dizmeyi, kız anadan öğrenir sokak gezmeyi”, Son learns from his father how to set a table, daughter learns form her mother how to loiter in street  Edited (12/29/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/29/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: turkish to english

3879.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Dec 2010 Wed 01:32 pm Do you use "talk to" or "talk with"? I asked this before and the answer was "talk to". Edited (12/29/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: turkish to english

3880.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Dec 2010 Wed 12:56 pm   Quoting Henry My attempt as a learner, but wait for a native speaker to confirm or correct. Kız kardeşime ve aynı zamanda kendi oğluna evi terketmelerini söylediğin için umarım Allah seni affeder. I hope God forgives you for saying to my sister, and at the same time to your own son, to leave the house. Umarım kendi başına yaşayabilirsin. I hope you can live with yourself (for doing this) Senin oğlun benim evimdeyken ben ona saygılı davrandım, benim çocuğumla konuşmasa bile. While your son was in my house, I treated him with respect even though he didn´t talk with my child  Onları mutsuz ettiğin için Allah´a bir gün bunların cevabını vereceksin. One day you will give God these answers for making them unhappy.       Edited (12/29/2010) by gokuyum Henry liked this message

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3881.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Dec 2010 Wed 12:30 pm Hi Guys Can anyone translate the following please? Thanks in advance. Senden bir ricamiz daha olacak, utanarak ve sikilarak rica ediyorum senden, annemin cok acil antibiyorige ihtiyaci var ve de buradan temin edemiyoruz.  we request somthing else from you feeling embarrassed  I am asking you my mother is in urgent need of antibiotics and we cant obtain them from here Risk alip postadan gondermeni isteyecegim senden. I want you to take the risk and send by post Biz babamla konusur Karsiyakaya getirmesini isteriz we will speak to my dad we will ask him  to bring (them) to Karşıyaka anibiyorikleri sen sadece postalama isini yapabilirsen cok makbule gececek Hakancigim my dear Hakan it will be much appreciated if you could do the job of posting the antibiotics  . Biliyorsun babam pek bu isleri beceremiyor ve de bu sebeple senin basini agritiyorum. You know my dad very cant do this kind of things and this is the reason why I am making your headache  Antibiyotigin adi DUOCID 375 mg film tablet, The name of the antibiotics is duocid 375 mg babam bunu annemin doctorundan yazdirmis olmali sadece sana getirmesi kalacak. My father must have been got them written by my mother´s doctor and you only have to  bring them Bu arada benim bir arkadasim 6 Ocakta Istanbula gidecek by the way a friend of mine will go to Istanbul on the 6th of Jan rica ettim Ecenin yagmurlugu ve de Berkin T-shirtlerini goturup Istanbuldan Izmire kargoya verecek, I asked him to pick up ecenin yagmurlugu? and Berkin T shirts he will send by kargo from Istanbul to Izmire sadece haberin olsun diye yaziyorum. Im writing just to let you know Umarim iindir ve de Berkin Universiteye hazirliklari da iyi gidiyordur, I hope you are well and the preparations for Berkin uni are going well burada havalar hala cok soguk ve buzlu evde tikilip kaldik. The weather here is still very cold and icy, we remain at home like prisoners Chris de araba kazasi gecirdi ve kafasinda derin bir kesikle atlatti ama durumu iyi, Chris also had a car accident and has a deep cut on his head but his condition is good arabasi yok su an, he dosent have a car at the moment buyuk ihtimalle cope gidecek, A big possibilty it(the car) will go to waste???/ su gunlerde mecburen evde onunla ilgileniyoruz kolay olmasa da idare ediyoruz.  In these days out of necessity we are tending him at home even if its not easy we are coping Mustafa hala bizimle kaliyor ve de kendine is ariyor ama henuz bir sey yok, eger bulamazsa yilbasinda Bilgaristana gidecegini soyluyor. Mustafa is still staying with us and he is looking for work but nothing yet, if he cant find he says he will go to Bulgaria in the new year Durum vaziyet bundan ibaret, the situation is this gelismelerden seni tekrar haberdar ederim. I`ll inform /let you know how things develop. progress Kucak dolusu sevgilerimle with my armfilled love/lots of love Edited (12/29/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/29/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/29/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/29/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Quiz 9 (for learners)

3882.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2010 Tue 10:48 pm I guess there is no difference between düşündüren and düşündürten. We also need adverb of time too. I have never thought about these issues. But when you look at the sentence you see "don´t assume" It is present. You should think it is more logical to translate  the whole sentence in present tense if you have doubts. Edited (12/28/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/28/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Quiz 9 (for learners)

3883.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2010 Tue 10:38 pm   Quoting Sonbahar Tamam Then, seni sevmediğimi, is the present tense. Isn´t it? Thank you!    Ex:Seni sevmediğimi düşünüyorsun. 1)You think I don´t love you. 2)You think I didn´t love you. The time of the verb "sevmek" is unclear So we need an adverb of time. Ex:Seni hiç sevmediğimi düşünüyorsun. You think I have never loved you. Ex Daha önce beni hiç sevmediğini düşünüyorum. I think you had never loved me before. Edited (12/28/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/28/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Quiz 9 (for learners)

3884.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2010 Tue 10:22 pm Anyways you did a good job. Keep going. Sonbahar liked this message

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3885.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2010 Tue 10:19 pm Delete this post Edited (12/29/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/29/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Quiz 9 (for learners)

3886.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2010 Tue 10:18 pm  delete this post Edited (12/28/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/28/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/29/2010) by gokuyum Sonbahar liked this message

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3887.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2010 Tue 10:13 pm I hope you learned new things. Sonbahar liked this message

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3888.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2010 Tue 10:11 pm   Quoting Sonbahar Henry´s method is my only help.... I certify    Good. Was it very difficult for you to translate?

Thread: Quiz 9 (for learners)

3889.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2010 Tue 10:07 pm   Quoting Sonbahar Sana benim seni sevmediğimi düşündüren davranışlarımın nedenlerini sorgularken sanki sen beni benden daha iyi tanıyormuşsun gibi bir tavır takınma.       Don’t assume such attitude as if you know me better than myself  when investigating the reasons of my behaviors that makes  you think  I am not in love with you.   şimdi şaşırdım galiba    Good translation. Did you get help? Edited (12/29/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Quiz 9 (for learners)

3890.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2010 Tue 09:41 pm Subject of the second part of the sentence is you. And dont forget to make a literal translation. Henry and Sonbahar liked this message

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3891.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2010 Tue 09:39 pm Quoting Sonbahar Sana benim seni sevmediğimi düşündüren davranışlarımın nedenlerini sorgularken sanki sen beni benden daha iyi tanıyormuşsun gibi bir tavır takınma.    Don’t assume such attitude as if you knew me better than myself  when I’m interrogating you about what in my behavior suggested you that  I didn´t love you.

Thread: Quiz 9 (for learners)

3892.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2010 Tue 09:18 pm   Quoting harp00n     I think it might start with "BANA" instead of "sana" and where are the punctuation marks to correct translate ???    Read carefully. You will realize it must be "sana". When I translate it to English at the end you will see what I mean. You would be right if I used "sorarken" instead of "sorgularken" Edited (12/28/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Quiz 9 (for learners)

3893.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2010 Tue 09:15 pm   Quoting Sonbahar Second try with the radical method of Henry to resolve this quiz, I hope it will help me! Sana benim seni sevmediğimi düşündüren davranışlarımın nedenlerini sorgularken sanki sen beni benden daha iyi tanıyormuşsun gibi bir tavır takınma.    Don’t assume such attitude as if you knew me better than myself , can I interrogate/ question you about the reasons in my  behavior suggesting that   I didn´t love you.    Try again. There must be "when" in the sentence. The part I highlighted with black is correct. Subject is "you" in the second part of the sentence. Edited (12/28/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Quiz 9 (for learners)

3894.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2010 Tue 06:00 pm   Quoting Sonbahar     Don’t assume that air as if you knew me better than I knew myself, to inquire with me about my attitude towards you, thinking that I don’t love you. Thank you!    Nope. Sonbahar liked this message

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3895.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Dec 2010 Tue 05:34 pm Translate the sentence below literally.   Sana benim seni sevmediğimi düşündüren davranışlarımın nedenlerini sorgularken sanki sen beni benden daha iyi tanıyormuşsun gibi bir tavır takınma.  Sonbahar and Pilaaav liked this message

Thread: English - turkish

3896.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Dec 2010 Mon 11:51 pm   Quoting liefde Fatma i hope Allah forgives you for chasing my daughter out your home and your son,i hope you can live with yourself    Fatma umarım kızımı ve oğlunu evinden kovduğun için Allah seni affeder ve vicdan azabı çekmeden yaşayabilirsin.

Thread: English - turkish

3897.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Dec 2010 Mon 10:24 pm This sentence is not clear Does she also chase her son out or does she chase only the girl out Is son also responsible or not? Edited (12/27/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: T-E LUTFAN

3898.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Dec 2010 Mon 09:43 pm I love this song! I need the translation in english if anyone would help plz. its sang by Petek and ferhat gecer.. new song Aşk almak değil, vermektir Kendinden çok sevmektir Ecelin gelse bile, Önce onu düşünmektir love is to give not to take  it is loving more than yourself thinking of her/him even if the moment of death comes Günlerini sayıyorsan If you are counting the days Bu dünyadan göçüyorsan if you are passing from this world Benden sonrası tufan Diyemezsin seviyorsan You can´t say it is flood after me (you can´t say i don´t care what happens after me) if you love Bu ne keder, bu ne hüzün what a sadness what a sorrow this is Mutluyduk biz iki gözüm we were happy my two eyes(my dear) Bir yanlış yaptıysam eğer if I made a mistake Bana yeter iki sözün it is enough for me your two words Gözyaşlarım dudaklarımda my tears on my lips Ecel geldi artık kapımda the moment of death now at my door Seni sensiz seveceğim I will love you without you Kalsam kara toprak altında if I remain under the dark earth /soil land Bir gün beni anlayacak she will understand me one day Belki çok ağlayacak maybe she will cry alot Ondan gizlediğim için because I concealed from her Belki de çok kızacak she may even be very angry Bilseydi ne yapardı ki what would she have done if she had known Ölüme çare yok ki there isn´t a remedy for the death  Gerçeği öğrenseydi if she had known the truth Aylarca üzülecekti she would have been sad for months Neden benden kaçıyorsun why are you avoiding me Sanki bir şey saklıyorsun its as if you are hiding something Açık konuş, söyle bana be frank /talk openly tell me Ayrılmak mı istiyorsun do you want to separate/part Gözyaşlarım dudaklarımda Ecel geldi artık kapımda Seni sensiz seveceğim Kalsam kara toprak altında Edited (12/27/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/27/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/27/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: English - turkish

3899.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Dec 2010 Mon 04:58 pm     Edited (12/27/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/27/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/27/2010) by gokuyum deli and Faik34 liked this message

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3900.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Dec 2010 Mon 04:29 pm   Quoting deli      selam Faik you missed out the bit about chasing them out of her home andI think what she means by life with yourself , like be comfortable with her actions, like having no regrets about what she has done , I think so anyway  Does "to chase out" means "to kick out"? I cant find it in the dictionary.

Thread: Quiz 8 (for learners)

3901.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Dec 2010 Mon 08:26 am   Quoting aiça Adam bahçedeki cevizleri çalmaya devam ederken fare gibi hayvan ışıkta izledi.    "çalışma" makes the sentence meaningless. but if you use "çalma" it makes sense.You are very creative. Keep going. Edited (12/27/2010) by gokuyum

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3902.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Dec 2010 Sun 08:39 pm   Quoting Sonbahar   Annenle baban, cumadan çarşambaya, dayının evinde, fazla  günler herkes ile   kalacaklar. "Your mother and your father  will stay some more days,from friday to wednesday, with everybody,  in your uncle´s house." ı ğ ile j eksik olmuş Thank you in advance!  "fazla günler" sounds weird. Try to find other words.

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3903.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Dec 2010 Sun 07:02 pm Form meaningful sentences consist of at least six words which start with the letter follows the previous word´s first letter. Please write the sentences both Turkish and English so I will be able to understand what you mean more easily. Ben cama çıktığımda denizden eşek fırladı When I looked at from the window a donkey jumped out of the sea.   Edited (12/26/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/26/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/26/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/26/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Quiz 7 (for learners)

3904.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Dec 2010 Sun 06:23 pm   Quoting aiça Yarim yengesinin yönünden yürürken yedi yabancı yeşil yılandan yanısında yaralandı.    This way it would be better: Yarimi yengesinin yanında yürürken yedi yeşil yılan yanağından yaraladı. Sonbahar liked this message

Thread: english to turkish

3905.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Dec 2010 Sun 06:20 pm   Quoting trixy Ahmet and Fadime i want to thank you so much for taking so good care of my daughter,while she is living in your home.    Ahmet ve Fadime. Kızıma sizin evinizde kalırken çok iyi baktığınız için size çok teşekkür etmek istiyorum. Allah bless you both for you kindness Allah sizi bu iyiliğiniz için kutsasın.    Helen"s parents Helen´in ailesi  I hope someone can help with translation..Thank you so much

Thread: Quiz 7 (for learners)

3906.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Dec 2010 Sun 10:01 am   Quoting aiça     Ziyafette zavallı ziyaretçi zaten zehirli zeytinden zevk almış.      "almış" breaks the rule. Not meaningful but  a nice try. It inspired me again. Here is my version:   Ziyafette zavallı ziyaretçi zencefilli zeytinden zehirlenmiş. Edited (12/26/2010) by gokuyum

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3907.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Dec 2010 Sun 09:53 am   Quoting Sonbahar       Zebranın "zararetmemek" zirvesi zamanda, Zimbabwe´ye ziyaret ettim. I visited Zimbabway, when there was a summit about saving zebras. Thank you!        not meaningful. Sonbahar liked this message

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3908.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Dec 2010 Sat 09:45 am Zengin zat zeki ziyaretçisine zulmetti. The rich person bullied his clever visitor. Sonbahar liked this message

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3909.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Dec 2010 Sat 09:35 am This time try to form a sentence with "z".

Thread: Quiz 7 (for learners)

3910.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Dec 2010 Sat 09:29 am   Quoting aiça     Cumhuriyet coşkudan cinayeti ciddiyetle cezalandırmalı. (not very meaningful but inspired me) My version: Cumhuriyet canice cinayeti ciddiyetle cezalandırmalı.    My try    I understand now. Nice try

Thread: Quiz 7 (for learners)

3911.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Dec 2010 Sat 09:20 am   Quoting aiça     Cumhuriyet coşkudan cinayete ciddi cezalandırmalı.   My try    I couldn´t understand the sentence? What did you want to mean?

Thread: Quiz 7 (for learners)

3912.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Dec 2010 Sat 09:18 am   Quoting Sonbahar     Instead, here is one with Ç: "çabuk çılgın çocuk, çiçekli çantadan, çilekli çikolatanı çıkart!!"     Wow. A long one. Bravo. Edited (12/25/2010) by gokuyum Sonbahar liked this message

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3913.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Dec 2010 Sat 09:16 am I will go on. Check the quiz 7. Have a nice day.

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3914.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Dec 2010 Fri 05:27 pm   Quoting Sonbahar   Thank you gokuyum! C: ceylan canavar can cam ceviz  camii  ciddi cadde cin cesur canlı cümle cuma ceza cennet cumartesi   Kelimeler var ama fiiller bulamıyorum can atmak, cezalanmak, hepsi bu    I agree. I couldn´t form a sentence too. Sonbahar liked this message

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3915.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Dec 2010 Fri 04:40 pm   Quoting Sonbahar Sanırm senin sebetinden sebzeler sattın. Sanırım sarı sepetindeki sebzeleri sattın  Güzel gözlerin gökyüzüle göl, görüyorlar. (not meaningful) Minik minoş merdivenden masaya miyavlıyor. +1 Küçük kara kızın kalbi kırıldı. oldu mu?    Good. Try one with "c" Sonbahar liked this message

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3916.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Dec 2010 Fri 04:10 pm Form meaningful sentences which consists of at least 5 words that sart with the same letter. How many can you form?   Ex: Beyaz binadaki büyük büroya bak. Look at the big bureau in the white building.   Edited (12/24/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/24/2010) by gokuyum

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3917.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Dec 2010 Fri 11:59 am   Quoting deli      so what is ,was I coming then    well same I guess deli liked this message

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3918.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Dec 2010 Fri 11:57 am Look above

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3919.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Dec 2010 Fri 11:55 am   Quoting zeytinne  So "Did i deserve it?" will be what in turkish? and "Do I deserve it"?    1. Hak ettim mi ? 2. Hak ediyor muyum?   I guees I would translate "hak eder miyim" as "will i deserve it?" Edited (12/24/2010) by gokuyum

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3920.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Dec 2010 Fri 11:53 am   Quoting deli but but I understand al those but muydum does it mean was I   Ex: Geliyor muydum? (compound tense) Had I been coming?   Edited (12/24/2010) by gokuyum Sonbahar liked this message

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3921.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Dec 2010 Fri 11:25 am   Quoting deli ok my first question is CONCERNING QUESTIONS when we say did I come we say geldim mi but when we say did I deserve this we say hak ediyor muyum when do we use both these  I cant get my head around the  question bits   Past                      geldim mi?            hakettim mi? Present continious    geliyor muyum?     hakediyor muyum? Present                  gelir miyim?          hakeder miyim? Future                   gelecek miyim?      hakedecek miyim?        As you can see there is an irregularity when it comes to past tense. Sonbahar liked this message

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3922.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Dec 2010 Fri 04:52 am   Quoting Henry     My guess as a learner with the corrected Turkish is de başkaları iyi değil galiba but it  seems others are not good     Henry liked this message

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3923.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Dec 2010 Thu 07:37 pm As long as you want I will go on preparing quiz. Bye. Sonbahar liked this message

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3924.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Dec 2010 Thu 07:27 pm   Quoting Sonbahar Ahh yes !! same ! Google translator was not wrong, then!    First success of google on translation T - E Edited (12/23/2010) by gokuyum

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3925.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Dec 2010 Thu 07:25 pm   Quoting zeytinne      Poetic or politic ?    poetic politic Sonbahar liked this message

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3926.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Dec 2010 Thu 07:23 pm   Quoting Sonbahar Does it mean:"I was born in a country where the sun always goes down"?    Yes.  You can see my translation above.

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3927.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Dec 2010 Thu 07:20 pm   Quoting gokuyum      My answer is poetic.    Ben güneşin hep battığı bir ülkede doğdum.    I was born in a country where the sun always sets.

Thread: Quiz 6 (for learners)

3928.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Dec 2010 Thu 07:16 pm   Quoting gokuyum Form a meaningful sentence.   hep, bir, -bat(verb), - doğ(verb), ülke, ben, güneş    My answer is poetic.    Ben güneşin hep battığı bir ülkede doğdum.

Thread: Quiz 6 (for learners)

3929.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Dec 2010 Thu 07:11 pm   Quoting Sonbahar Bence güneş, bir ülke de hep doğduktan sonra batıyor    Mine is different if you want i can write it.

Thread: Quiz 6 (for learners)

3930.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Dec 2010 Thu 07:10 pm   Quoting zeytinne      From your "quiz" i learn only that you´re smart and I´ m stupid.  I don´t agree.

Thread: Quiz 6 (for learners)

3931.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Dec 2010 Thu 06:56 pm   Quoting zeytinne      Lets hear it ( seems like we cannot understand you).... same like the cat who is running and myauing while trying to catch a bird from a tree  It is not important if the cat is miowing or not, it is important what you learn about Turkish grammer.

Thread: Quiz 6 (for learners)

3932.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Dec 2010 Thu 06:48 pm   Quoting zeytinne    Your sun raises and sets in one country ? ( or you should say "in only one country?? come on...    My answer is totally different from it.

Thread: Quiz 6 (for learners)

3933.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Dec 2010 Thu 06:44 pm   Quoting zeytinne      Why you put "bir" in your "quiz" its nonsense P.s. I wonder.    My answer is different and there must be "bir" in it.

Thread: Quiz 6 (for learners)

3934.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Dec 2010 Thu 06:41 pm Check this   http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_48797

Thread: Quiz 6 (for learners)

3935.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Dec 2010 Thu 06:37 pm   Quoting Sonbahar Thank you gokuyum! But can you please translate this sentence for me so that I can get the exact meaning, I am afraid I did´t understand it well. "Benim ülkemde, bir güneş hep doğup batıyor" Thank you again  In my country a sun always rises and sets.

Thread: EN to TR, please.

3936.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Dec 2010 Thu 06:29 pm Birinci örnek dilbilgisi açısından doğru mu?Bana pek doğru gibi gelmedi. Birisi yardım edebilir mi?   1)Çocuklar gülebilsin istiyorum. 2)Çocukların gülebilmesini istiyorum. Edited (12/23/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/23/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: EN to TR, please.

3937.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Dec 2010 Thu 06:24 pm I did a mistake and corrected it. Look again.

Thread: EN to TR, please.

3938.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Dec 2010 Thu 06:06 pm I added one more example. Look at the difference.

Thread: EN to TR, please.

3939.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Dec 2010 Thu 05:31 pm   Quoting deli dileyebilisin what does this mean please   Ex:Telefonu ver de mutluluklar dileyebilsin Give me phone so s/he can wish me happiness Ex: Birgün yürüyebilsin istiyorum. (this example seems  wrong but i am sure people use it) I want/wish him/her to be able to walk one day Here is the correct version: Bir gün yürüyebilmesini istiyorum.        Edited (12/23/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/23/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/23/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/23/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/23/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/23/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/23/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/23/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/23/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/23/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/23/2010) by gokuyum

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3940.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Dec 2010 Thu 05:18 pm   Quoting Sonbahar   Bu kâfi mi? Is this enough? Bu yeterli mi? http://www.turkishdictionary.net/?word=k%E2fi     Sonbahar liked this message

Thread: Quiz 6 (for learners)

3941.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Dec 2010 Thu 05:13 pm   Quoting Sonbahar hep, bir, -bat(verb), - doğ(verb), ülke, ben, güneş Words are very easy, but curiously, I can´t make a meaningful sentence out of them. I will try anyway: "Benim ülkemde, bir güneş hep doğup batıyor (better)"... Believe it or not!!      nice try.mine is different. Edited (12/23/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/23/2010) by gokuyum Sonbahar liked this message

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3942.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Dec 2010 Thu 03:43 pm   Quoting Sonbahar Ben, güneşi doğduğundan batara, bir ülke´te hep dayım. Thank you in advance!    Try again

Thread: Quiz 6 (for learners)

3943.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Dec 2010 Thu 01:50 pm Form a meaningful sentence.   hep, bir, -bat(verb), - doğ(verb), ülke, ben, güneş

Thread: Beydaba(Vishnu Sharma) and Kelile ve Dimne (Panchatantra)

3944.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Dec 2010 Thu 10:48 am   Quoting Sonbahar   Kelile ve Dimne is definitely a masterpiece of Indian literature and philosophy!The adaptation from the Persian into Arabic was made by Ibn al-Muqaffa ´around the year 750.  The arabic version of Ibn al-Muqaffa´ was widely translated into Turkish, Mongolian, Latin and inspired many writers. It has inspired "Les fables de la fontaine" in the 17th century and much more. Nice choice!    Great. You have a good taste. Sonbahar liked this message

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3945.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Dec 2010 Thu 10:44 am   Quoting sonunda     -za is not the suffix. babaniz (your father) a (to )   babaniza=to your father. (The object of the verb soylemek takes the e/a (to) suffix.) baba-n your father (informal) baba-nız your father (formal)   Inscrutable and sonunda liked this message

Thread: English - Turkish

3946.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Dec 2010 Thu 10:27 am   Quoting melek08   First of all I want to wish you a Happy New Year. I am so grateful for being able to celebrate this special day with you. While going through hard times like we are at the moment, I appreciate every minute with you even more than I thought was ever possible before.   Herşeyden önce sana mutlu bir yeni yıl dilemek istiyorum. Bu özel günü seninle kutluyor olabilmekten çok mutluyum. Şimdiki gibi zor zamanlardan geçerken, seninle birlikte geçen her ana mümkün olabileceğini düşündüğümden daha çok değer veriyorum. Some people make a wish for New Years Eve, others a promise. I will do both this year. My wish for 2011 is to be with you as much as possible, to start our life together as we should have done this year. I wish that someone will hear our prayers, and make our wishes come true this year. I have a good feeling for 2011, this is going to be our year. Bazı insanlar yılbaşı gecesi bir dilek tutuyorlar, diğerleri bir söz veriyorlar. Bu yıl ikisini de yapacağım. 2011 için dileğim bu yıl yapmış olmamız gereken birlikte yeni bir hayata sahip olmak için mümkün olduğunca çok birlikte olmamız. Umarım birileri dualarımızı duayar da dileklerimiz bu yıl gerçek olur. 2011 için iyi hisler besliyorum. Bu yıl bizim yılımız olacak.   Today, while entering into 2011 I am also making a promise. I am promising to continue to be by your side no matter what, no matter how long it will take. I am promising you that we will unite in our home one day - this year. Bugün 2011´e girerken ayrıca bir söz veriyorum. Her ne olursa olsun, ne kadar sürerse sürsün hep yanında olmaya devam edeceğim. Söz veririm ki bu yıl bir gün evimizde birleşeceğiz.  You know that I love you with my entire heart. You are my happiness and joy in this life. Seni bütün kalbimle sevdiğimi biliyorsun. Sen bu hayatta benim mutluluğum ve neşemsin.  I am your wife and you my husband, but I want you to know that I also really look forward to our coming wedding, which I am sure will be one day to remember. I am forever in love with you, and I can`t wait to be your wife, once again. Ben senin eşin sen benim kocamsın. Ama bilmeni isterim ki yaklaşan evlilik günümüzü ki hep hatırlanacak  bir gün olacak sabırsızlıkla bekliyorum. Sana sonsuza dek aşığım, tekrar eşin olmayı dört gözle bekliyorum    Melek I wish you happiness. I don´t translate long texts anymore even sometimes short ones, I am focusing to correct other translators´ mistakes. If you check my profile you can see the reason. But I don´t want your heart to be broken so for the last time I translated it. Happy new years. Edited (12/23/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/23/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/23/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/23/2010) by gokuyum melek08 and deli liked this message

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3947.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Dec 2010 Wed 06:26 pm   Quoting Inscrutable Baban ´a selamımı söyleyin. Please convey my salam to your father. Thank you    Babanıza selamımı söyleyin. (formal) Edited (12/22/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: TRK-ENG translation please

3948.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Dec 2010 Wed 05:39 pm   Quoting Sonbahar Gece yemek yemek zararlıdır diyenlere gelsin bu lafım; buzdolabının içindeki ışık ne, kime yapılmış ozaman aferdersin? The main meaning is: "to those who claim that eating by night is harmful, I ask them, sorry, but to whom they made the light inside the refrigerator, then?    Bravo.

Thread: trk to eng. translation help please

3949.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Dec 2010 Wed 05:33 pm     Edited (12/22/2010) by gokuyum bryang and Sonbahar liked this message

Thread: ANOTHER TRK TO ENG. THANK YOU

3950.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Dec 2010 Wed 05:17 pm   Quoting bryang   Help me with this translation please, thank you:   Tahin pekmez ikilisini bulan şahsa gitsem o güzel zevkiyle bana da bi eş bulabilir mi ki acaba?  If I go to the person who found crushed sesame seeds and molasses couple can s/he find a partner for me with his/her good taste                                           Edited (12/22/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: trk to eng. translation help please

3951.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Dec 2010 Wed 05:04 pm In short s/he says "you must be crazy if you behave this way"         bryang liked this message

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3952.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Dec 2010 Wed 04:55 pm   Quoting sonunda  başkalarının aşkını uzaktan izleyip gülümseyebiliyorsan kafandaki görünmez huniyi nereden aldığını bize de söyler misin?   Isn´t it ´if you can watch from afar the love of others and smile; could you tell from where you took the invisible cone (symbol of lunacy when on head in Turkish culture)  on your head? (because of the ip suffix on izle) can´t do the rest though!     Edited (12/22/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/22/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Beydaba(Vishnu Sharma) and Kelile ve Dimne (Panchatantra)

3953.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Dec 2010 Wed 04:47 pm  Great Alexander was willing to conquer China.He decided to deal with India which is on the way to China first. King of India started to war preparations when he heard Alexander´s army was approaching. Great Alexander won this war with his intelligence and killed the Indian King. After a while he wanted to go on his way. He assigned a trusted man to rule the India. After he went, Indians disenthroned him. And they chose a noble man Debshelim as their king. In time Debshelim became self-imported and started to oppress his people. After each war he won he gained more confidence. And he increased his cruelity.There was a very famous Brahman and a philosopher whose name is Beydaba(Vishnu Sharma). He was also annoyed of King´s cruel ruling. He decided to warn Debshelim taking the risk of death. He went to king´s palace and said he wants to talk to him. Debselim accepted his request. After he gave him permission to speak Beydaba criticized his ruling harshly. He gave king advices. But king got angry and ordered him to be killed. But then he changed his mind and decided to prison him. So Beydaba was taken to the prison. After a long time passed, one night Debshelim lost in thought. He couldn´t find a solution of a philosophical problem. Then he remembered Beydaba. He thought that he was unfair to him. Because Beydaba only wanted to warn him for his sake. He ordered him to be taken out of prison. When Beydaba came into his presence, he wanted him to repeat his advices that he told him. Beydaba did so. Debshelim liked them and he assigned him as his vizier. As a vizier he did his job fairly and was loved by people. Also King started to change and he became more reasonable. After he put the ruling to rights, he started to write books about politics. One day Debshelim ordered him to write a book for him. This book would be about how kings should rule people. But it also had to include seriousness, humor, entertainment, philosophy and wisdom together. Beydaba requested one year time. King accepted it. Beydaba and one of his student started to write it in an isolated cell. They decided to give their messages from the mouth of animals. This way ordinary people would be amazed of it and had fun, but wise people would put the fun and humor aside and would only care for what was tried to give as a message. One year later Beydaba finished his book. King ordered him to read the book in front of the whole folk. After he read each chapter, King asked him what he wanted to tell and Beydaba told him. King liked the book a lot. He promised to fulfill all of his wishes. Beydaba had only one wish. He wanted King to protect the book carefully because he wasn´t willing Persians to have it. Years years later when the wise Nuşirevan became the king of Persia, he heard about that book. He wanted to have it. He sent doctor Berzeveyh to get it. He was able to get it with using his head and he presented it to his king. Here is the book. I recommend you to read it..

Thread: english to turkish please

3954.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Dec 2010 Wed 11:33 am   Quoting deli Sağolbut check again is it eksik or eksi    It is "eksi"

Thread: Quiz 5 (for learners)

3955.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Dec 2010 Wed 04:55 am   Quoting dilliduduk     it is definetely "yemek yemeyi", because here the word is the event of "yemek yeme" (eating), not the verb "yemek yemek".   Similarly it is, Gülmeyi seviyor. She likes smiling (NOT Gülmeği seviyor) Dans etmeye gidiyoruz. We are going for dancing.   etc etc etc   I think in old times it was also said "yemek yemeği", "istemeği", "gülmeği" etc because sometimes I see these in the old books. But this is not valid anymore. (I think in Azeri language they also use like istemeğe)    Interesting perspective. I should look at grammer books. But i am too lazy so I will trust you.

Thread: pls trk to eng help needed

3956.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Dec 2010 Wed 04:48 am ya git bi şeytansın sen go away ya you are a devil seninle olacak erkeğin anassını sikersin You fuck the mother of a man who will be with you. (It means you will make the man crazy) sen vay halimize vay ben maksuz gittim gülün yanına ve woe is me. I went to Gül´ side on purpose and ondan rıca ettim benle chat yapmassı için ve dedimki ona eğer laura sana yazarsa ona cevap verme. tamam abi dedi. I requested her /himto chat with me and I said if laura writes to you dont relpy she / he said ok bro ama korktuğum başıma geldi yani seni denedim but my worst fears came true I mean I tested you ve sen içine sıçtın resmen. and you really fucked up nasıl arkadaşımın kız kardeşiyle olacağımı düşünürsün how do you think I would be with my freinds girlfriend hemde daha 17 yaşındaaaaaaaaa lannnnnnnnn????????? and she is only 17 years old anassını siktiyim you whose mother I fuck kaç erkeklen yazışıyon sen kaç erkek eklemişsin facebook nda how many men are you corresponding with how many men you have added on face book sen lan orusbu you  whore ben sana bu kim veya o kim diye sordummu? did I ask you who is this who is that hep sana güvendim ve şimdi ben sana soruyorum senin bana güvencen olmassa benim sana nasıl güvencem olacak? I trusted you always and now I am asking if there isnt your rust for me how will there be my trust for you lütfen bu soruyu kendi kendine sor.. please ask yourself this question ben senden daha kaliteli değilim I am not more quality than you nede sen benden nede hiç kimse kimseden neither you than me nor anyone else than anyone ??? bunu aklına sok. put this in your head    Good translation

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3957.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Dec 2010 Tue 03:54 pm I hope one can find one day how to communicate by telepathy. It would be also better if s/he finds how to surf on internet by it     Edited (12/21/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: please help me if u can

3958.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Dec 2010 Tue 03:50 pm   Quoting harp00n Haklısın diyecem ama bende gidip geldim hangisi daha doğru olacak diye  Artık, gönderen karar versin buna. Teşekkür ederim.    Herhalde bir insanın bu kadar kaba olamayacağını düşündün. Ama inan ki bundan daha beterleri var. harp00n liked this message

Thread: Can anyone tell me what \"belin\" means please? Thanks

3959.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Dec 2010 Tue 03:48 pm   Quoting Suzie Quote: Add quoted text here   It can be a name. But it can also be "your waist".

Thread: Quiz 5 (for learners)

3960.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Dec 2010 Tue 03:46 pm   Quoting Sonbahar   Kedi, miyavlayan bir kuşa  baktıktan sonra, içki içmeye başladı!!!      Sonbahar liked this message

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3961.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Dec 2010 Tue 03:44 pm   Quoting harp00n      Dün, beni aşağılamanın çok komik olduğunu mu düşündün ? Diğer insanlarla benim hakkımda konuşmaya nasıl cesaret edersin ? Açıkçası senin için bir anlamım yok. Nasıl iki yüzlü oluyorsun ? Bana beni nekadar sevdiğini söylemeden önce, ona ilişkimizin bittiğini söyledin. Sana inanamıyorum. Sadakatin nerede ? Geçen iki yılın senin için bir anlamı yok mu ? Evleneceğin kadın olduğumu ve seninle bir geleceğimin olacağını düşünmüştüm. Herşeyi berbat ettin. Ona bana küfür etmesini bile söyledin. Senden utanıyorum.

Thread: Quiz 5 (for learners)

3962.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Dec 2010 Tue 03:37 pm   Quoting Sonbahar     Sanırım sinirli bir kedi böyle davranabilir... kendini tutamaz    Maybe an alcoholic cat. Sonbahar liked this message

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3963.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Dec 2010 Tue 02:16 pm   Quoting gokuyum Form a meaningful sentence using words and verbs below.You can use any suffixes and tenses you want.   kedi, -koş (verb), kuş, ağaç, ev, -gör(verb), dışarı, -miyavla ( verb)    Here is my version: Evdeki kedi ağaçtaki kuşu görünce miyavlayarak dışarı koştu. Sonbahar liked this message

Thread: Quiz 5 (for learners)

3964.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Dec 2010 Tue 02:15 pm   Quoting Sonbahar Thank you gokuyum! I thought that we exhausted all possibilities, but I will try once more: "Miyavlayan bir kuş, evden dışarı ağaca koşan bir kedi gördü". (İyiki uçan bir kedi değildi) Note: Miyavlayan bir kuş vardı... ama bir tane vardı... bir dükkanda ve kafeste...onu gördüm ve dinledim! Hem konuşan hem miyavlayan bir kuştu! Ama uçan kedi daha görmedim...             Sonbahar liked this message

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3965.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Dec 2010 Tue 02:08 am   Quoting deli      I think they use iletmek so maybe its selamlarını ileteceğim but does the t change to a d    "Selamlarını söyleyeceğim" and "selamlarını ileteceğim" are both correct. t sound doesn´t change to d sound. Edited (12/21/2010) by gokuyum deli liked this message

Thread: wish e-t

3966.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Dec 2010 Tue 02:03 am   Quoting iyi7geceler  Could you please translate this to me? Also i´d like to use it to wish for all of you!!   Each celebration is different but love is the same. So my dear friends may your heart feel warm on this cold winter days!    Her kutlama farklı ama aşk/sevgi aynıdır. Öyleyse sevgili dostlarım bu soğuk kış günlerinde kalbiniz sıcaklığı hissetsin/sıcak olsun. Edited (12/21/2010) by gokuyum Sonbahar, deli and timeless liked this message

Thread: Quiz 5 (for learners)

3967.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Dec 2010 Tue 01:52 am yemek yemeyi or yemek yemeği? I think yemek yemeği is the correct one because it obeys the "sert sessizlerin yumuşaması" rule.

Thread: Quiz 5 (for learners)

3968.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Dec 2010 Tue 01:49 am   Quoting Sonbahar kedi, -koş (verb), kuş, ağaç, ev, -gör(verb), dışarı, -miyavla ( verb) Kuş, evden, dışarı ağaca koşan ve miyavlayan bir kedi gördü. Excuse my bad turkish but I wanted to say: "From the house, the bird saw outside a cat miaowing and running to the tree" That´s to say that gokuyum never said that the cat was miaowing while attacking the bird It was my pure imagination    Excellent. Bravo. Note: My version is different.

Thread: Quiz 5 (for learners)

3969.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Dec 2010 Mon 08:38 pm   Quoting Sonbahar Kedi, kuşu görür görmez, miyavlayarak, evden dışarı ağaca koştu.    Nice try. My version is different. Maybe you can find it too.

Thread: Quiz 5 (for learners)

3970.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Dec 2010 Mon 12:52 pm   Quoting Sonbahar kedi, -koş (verb), kuş, ağaç, ev, -gör(verb), dışarı, -miyavla ( verb) Bir gün, küçük bir kedi varmış(without this verb it is better) pencereden bakmış ve bir kuş görmüş. Hemen heyecanlanmış, miyavlamaya başlamış ve evden dışarıya(dışarı is better) çıkmış. Ağaca koşmuş,üzerine tırmanmış çünkü kedi  yemek yemeği çok istemiş. My try.... thank you gokuyum!    Nice try. Now try to form only one sentence. Edited (12/20/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Quiz 5 (for learners)

3971.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Dec 2010 Mon 10:19 am Form a meaningful sentence using words and verbs below.You can use any suffixes and tenses you want.   kedi, -koş (verb), kuş, ağaç, ev, -gör(verb), dışarı, -miyavla ( verb) Edited (12/20/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/20/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: T-E whoever has time pls thanks

3972.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Dec 2010 Mon 09:56 am I think old generations still use "müsterih olmak". I don´t know what new generations use instead of it. Maybe "İçiniz rahat etsin" By the way I consider myself mentally from old generation. Edited (12/20/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/20/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: here I am again:) hear it in a song but not sure what she is singing

3973.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Dec 2010 Mon 06:00 am   Quoting Sonbahar Rica ederim! ... ben de yeni bir kelimeler öğrendim  ...     You should say ben de yeni kelimeler öğrendim. Sonbahar liked this message

Thread: everybody plzzzzz translate

3974.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Dec 2010 Mon 05:58 am   Quoting deli selam zulfulivaneli could look again at the way you translated I can`t bear my tears maybe katlanmak or dayanmak would be better I don`t know, what do you think and also asılı ne demek ? I thought reality was gerçeklik    That translation has many mistakes.

Thread: E to T

3975.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Dec 2010 Mon 05:52 am It is up to you. Sana kalmış.

Thread: T-E whoever has time pls thanks

3976.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Dec 2010 Mon 05:50 am müsterih ol means be at ease, rest assured

Thread: T to E my attempt

3977.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Dec 2010 Mon 05:46 am   Quoting Sonbahar Yours is correct. You can also say: Onlar çok zengindir. But I am not sure if we can say "Onlar çok zenginlerdir or zengindirler?" Please don´t get confused with it! Yours is correct... I am just having doubts with plural form...    -dir has two meaning 1) defination Ex: Onlar çok zengindir. They are very rich. No need to say Onlar çok zengindirler. Because one plural suffix in a sentence is enough.   2)guess Ex: Onlar gelmiştir. I guess they have come.   Which one is correct? gelmişlerdir or gelmiştirler? I dont know maybe both.

Thread: Turkish 2 English pls =)

3978.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Dec 2010 Mon 05:35 am   Quoting Sweet_Paradise anybody know meaning of haloşşuum ?      It can be "my aunty".

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3979.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Dec 2010 Thu 03:47 am   Quoting mltm " Evim nerde biliyor musun?" is not gramatically incorrect, but to make it correct we can just put a comma, "evim nerde, biliyor musun?" In fact, here, there are 2 sentences like "Where is my house? You know?"  I agree. "Evimin nerede olduğunu biliyor musun?" is one sentence.   mltm liked this message

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3980.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Dec 2010 Thu 03:42 am   Quoting Sonbahar  "If you know me, you would know I am a honest and loyal  person. I dont tell lies because I know the hurt they cause. I chose to be with you because I love you. I know the rules of a relationship." Eğer beni tanıyorsan ( biliyorsan), dürüst ve sadık bir insan olduğumu bilirsin. Ben yalan söylemem çünkü  ben yalanların zararlarını biliyorum. seninle olmayı seçtim çünkü seni seviyorum. Ben bir ilişkinin kurallarını biliyorum. A learner try at that bit  Good translation.   Edited (12/16/2010) by gokuyum Sonbahar liked this message

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3981.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Dec 2010 Thu 03:37 am   Quoting Sonbahar Can we say as well: seni orada bekleyeceğim...? Thank you    Yes you can. Turkish is very flexible. And don´t forget whatever near to verb gain a stress on itself. Sonbahar liked this message

Thread: Behzat Ç.

3982.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Dec 2010 Thu 03:29 am   Quoting abdughupur Hi gokuyum, how are you. i watched the all 11 episodes, i think episode 11 is difirent than other chapters, forme star to end there are a secret person, i can´t wait to know it, and what thing is Behzat had see?he...he... i liked it so much, this is a second turkish tv series i have ben watch, before i was watched a turkish series that name is "yagmurdan sonra",i was like it so much, but liked so much Behzat Ç than it. this is a very very great tv sries, end of your post you said the tv series has three chapters left to chage its future, is there any news about this series will be not canceled? if this tv series canceled, it will be very pity.i hope it will be continue. and on some website i finde that there are a actor name is Nejat İşler, he will playing at episode 13 and 14, is he a famous actor in turkey?    Although Behzat Ç. has a low rating, it has a very big support from internet. There is an important social site in Turkey named ekşi sözlük where people write their thoughts about everything. Users in this site supported Behzat Ç. with their posts and protested channel because of carrying it first to Monday and then to Tuesday. Because it was first aired Sunday and its ratings were not that bad. Channel took Behzat Ç back to Sunday after these protests. Channel realized the huge support to Behzat Ç. It is still not certain if they will end this show or not. But another channel can buy it if they end it.   Nejat İşler is a famous actor. He played in many movies and Tv series. But I haven´t watched all of them. I watched a movie of him whose name is "Barda". He was playing a psychopathic leader of a gang. I liked it. Also his involvement to series can increase the ratings.   Have a nice day.

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3983.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Dec 2010 Wed 01:20 am   Quoting Sonbahar what about dümtek and dümdüz?    Dümtek is a name of a song.It was a diversion. Dümdüz means quite smooth.

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3984.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Dec 2010 Wed 01:18 am   Quoting zeytinne    ...but what´  the meaning of that "ta" ? This scratched my eyes at the first looking.      ta is an expression we use when we talk about a big distance. We say it like taa.    Ta Amasya´dan mı geldin? (surprised because it is so far) Did you come from Amasya?

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3985.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Dec 2010 Wed 01:14 am Here is the correct text:   Toros dağlarının etekleri ta Akdenizden başlar. Kıyıları döven ak köpüklerden sonra doruklara doğru yavaş yavaş yükselir. Akdenizin üstünde daima, top top ak bulutlar salınır. Kıyılar dümdüz, cilalanmış gibi düz killi topraklardır.

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3986.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Dec 2010 Tue 08:01 pm   Quoting mltm     "Toros dağlarının etekleri ta Akdeniz´den başlar. Kıyıları döven ak köpükler doruklara doğru yavaş yavaş yükselir. Akdeniz´in üstünde daima, top top ak bulutlar salınır. Kıyılar dümdüz, cilalanmış gibi düz, killi topraklardır."   Is mine correct? I did not look at others.    Of course yours is correct because you are native. Don´t forget this quiz is for learners Note: You have one mistake Edited (12/14/2010) by gokuyum

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3987.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Dec 2010 Tue 05:51 pm   Quoting Sweet_Paradise Thank you. What about this: Gerçekten seven bir kadının; tahammül edemeyeceği bir güçlük ve katlanamayacağı bir fedakarlık yoktur    Tomac´s translation is correct. Here it is:   For truly loving woman, there is no difficulty which she will (would?) not be able to endure, and no sacrifice she will (would?) not be able to make. Edited (12/14/2010) by gokuyum Sweet_Paradise liked this message

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3988.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Dec 2010 Tue 05:45 pm   Quoting Sonbahar       Toros dağlarının etekleri ta Akdenizden başlar. Kıyılar  döven ak  köpüklerinden sonra doruklara doğru yavaş yavaş yükselir. Akdenizin üstünde daima, top top ak bulutlar salınır. Kıyılar dümtek, cilalanır  gibi düz killi topraklardır. My try... N.B: aiça inspired me for daima Thank you in advance  3 correct answers

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3989.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Dec 2010 Tue 01:34 am   Quoting yilgun-2010 The Best MUSIC of  2010 The Best  MOVIES of 2010 The Best BOOKS of 2010   Best movie is Inception. Best book is Pazarlık. Best music is Durma Yağmur Durma Best series are Dexter and Behzat Ç    Edited (12/14/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/14/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/14/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/14/2010) by gokuyum

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3990.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Dec 2010 Tue 12:37 am   Quoting aiça        Toros dağlarının etekleri ta Akdenizden başlar. Kıyıların döven ak  köpüklerinden sonra doruklara doğru yavaş yavaş yükselmiş. Akdenizin üstünde daima, top top ak bulutlar salınır. Kıyılar dümdüz, cilalanmış  gibi düz killi topraklardır.   My try    3 of them correct.

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3991.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Dec 2010 Mon 11:51 pm   Find the five mistakes I made and correct them. Colour your answers.  Toros dağlarında etekleri ta Akdenizden başlar. Kıyıları döven ak  köpüklerin sonra doruklara doğru yavaş yavaş yükselmiş. Akdenizin   üstünde damia, top top ak bulutlar salınır. Kıyılar dümtek, cilalanmış  gibi düz killi topraklardır.

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3992.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Dec 2010 Mon 04:46 am   Quoting luckypigeon thanks again i am very gratefull   I hope everything will be fine for you

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3993.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Dec 2010 Mon 04:34 am Delete this post please. Edited (12/13/2010) by gokuyum

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3994.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Dec 2010 Mon 04:32 am Delete this post please. Edited (12/13/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/13/2010) by gokuyum

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3995.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Dec 2010 Mon 04:29 am Delete this post please. Edited (12/13/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/13/2010) by gokuyum

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3996.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Dec 2010 Mon 04:14 am Delete this post please.   Edited (12/13/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/13/2010) by gokuyum

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3997.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Dec 2010 Mon 04:11 am Delete this post please. Edited (12/13/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/13/2010) by gokuyum

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3998.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Dec 2010 Mon 04:08 am  Delete this post please.   Edited (12/13/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/13/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/13/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/13/2010) by gokuyum

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3999.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Dec 2010 Mon 03:20 am  Delete this post please. Edited (12/13/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/13/2010) by gokuyum

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4000.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Dec 2010 Mon 03:11 am  Delete this post please.      Edited (12/13/2010) by gokuyum

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4001.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Dec 2010 Mon 02:39 am Delete this post please. Edited (12/13/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/13/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/13/2010) by gokuyum

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4002.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Dec 2010 Mon 02:20 am Well there is only one way to understand it. That is to look at the sentences before it. We can only understand which expression is correct looking at the context of paragraph. If we don´t have such an option like now we should look if there is an exclamation mark at the end of the sentence. If there is not we should not use "benim" . Edited (12/13/2010) by gokuyum

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4003.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Dec 2010 Mon 02:10 am   Quoting Sonbahar     Edited (12/13/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/13/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/13/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/13/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/13/2010) by gokuyum

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4004.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Dec 2010 Mon 02:00 am We also use "benim","senin" etc... when we want to lay stress on them. Ex: This is your problem not mine. Bu senin problemin benim değil.

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4005.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Dec 2010 Mon 01:47 am   Quoting Argantilla can someone translate this short text in english please?  ‎3 kuruşluk insana 5 kuruşluk değer verirsen kendini 10 kuruşluk hissedermiş şimdi aynaya bak ve o 3 kuruşluk suratına tükür    If you give 5 cents value to a man whose value 3 cents, he feels like as his value is 10 cents. Now look at the mirror and spit on your face whose value is 3 cents. Sonbahar liked this message

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4006.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Dec 2010 Mon 01:39 am   Quoting Sonbahar Annemin evinde misafirler (ziyaretçiler) var. If they are your visitors you can say: Annemin evinde benim misafirlerim (ziyaretçilerim) var. My try...  You dont have to use "benim" here because "m" sound at the end of the word "misafirlerim" gives that meaning.You can ask when you use "benim" Answer is: 1)Bu araba kimin? Benim. 2) Bu araba kimin arabası? Benim arabam.   Edited (12/13/2010) by gokuyum

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4007.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Dec 2010 Sat 01:51 am   Quoting armegon Below one is better i guess "Annesinin hastalığının beşinci gününün gecesi, Hasan rüyasında kendisini evinin bahçesinde otururken görür. Çok sevdiği tavşanları da her zamanki gibi bahçesindeki kafestedir, ancak birdenbire kafesin kapısı açılır ve tavşanlar koşarak Hasan´ın yanına gelir, hep bir ağızdan "Hasan bizi sat da annen kurtulsun" derler... "  I agree. Past tense is a poor choice. But this is not my story. I think i will choose texts from the works of great authors from now on.

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4008.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Dec 2010 Sat 01:22 am   Quoting tomac Thank you very much, gokuyum, for your time and your help for us! İyi geceler!    Thank you too. Your Turkish is very good. Take care.

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4009.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Dec 2010 Sat 01:11 am   Quoting Sonbahar I found where tomac did his mistake but I can neither correct him nor can I find my own errors    Tomac finished you did well look at your mistakes and be ready for tomorrow.

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4010.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Dec 2010 Sat 01:10 am   Quoting tomac My third try o zaman   Annesinin hastalığının beşinci gününün gecesi, Hasan rüyasında kendisini evin bahçesinde otururken görüyordu. Tavşanlar da kafesteydi. Birden kafesin kapısı açıldı ve tavşanlar koşarak Hasan’ın yanına gelip, Hasan bizi sat, annen kurtulsun, dediler.    Bravo tomac. And thanks to others. I will be back tomorrow with another quiz.

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4011.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Dec 2010 Sat 01:08 am   Quoting Sonbahar Annesinin hastalığında beşinci günün gecesi, Hasan rüyasında kendisini evin bahçesinde otururken görüyordu. Tavşanlar da kafesteydi. Birden kafesin kapısı açıldı ve tavşanlar koşar  Hasan’ın yanına gelip, Hasan bizi sat, annen kurtulun, dediler .   The letters that have a chance to be correct (according to me) are now in pink... Thank you again    Look at tomac´s translation. And try to find his one mistake. I will be back 20 minutes later.

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4012.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Dec 2010 Sat 01:06 am A hint you can not fill in a blank with two things.

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4013.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Dec 2010 Sat 01:03 am   Quoting tomac Thank you very much, gokuyum, for checking and taking your time and effort to help us. Here is my next try:   Annesinin hastalığının beşinci gününün gecesi, Hasan rüyasında kendisini evin bahçesinde otururken görüyordu. Tavşanlar da kafesteydi. Birden kafesin kapısı açıldı ve tavşanlar koşarak Hasan’ın yanına gelip, Hasan bizi sat, annen kurtulmak için, dediler.    10 correct answers one to go (you have 30 minutes)

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4014.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Dec 2010 Sat 01:01 am Last 30 minute then i will declare the right answers.

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4015.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Dec 2010 Sat 12:36 am I will be back 20 minutes later. Two greens are  correct. Edited (12/11/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/11/2010) by gokuyum [correction] Sonbahar liked this message

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4016.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Dec 2010 Sat 12:34 am   Quoting Sonbahar Annesinin hastalığını beşinci günün gecesi, Hasan rüyasında kendisini evin bahçesinde otururken görüyordu. Tavşanlar da kafesteydi. Birden kafesin kapısı açıldı ve tavşanlar koşarak  Hasan’ın yanına gelip, Hasan bizi sat, annen kurtulun, dediler .    8 of them correct. Also all blues are correct. Greens are almost correct. Keep going. Sonbahar liked this message

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4017.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Dec 2010 Sat 12:19 am   Quoting aiça     Annesinin hastalığinda beşinci günün gecesi, Hasan rüyasında kendisini evin bahçesinde oturuken görüyormuş. Tavşanlar da kafesteydiler. Birden kafesin kapısı açıldı ve tavşanlar koşarak Hasan´ın yanına gelip, Hasan bizi sat, annen kurtulacak, dediler.   My try    actually 7 of them correct. but i think one of your answer is also possible so 8 of them are correct. Please use color for your answers. Edited (12/11/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/11/2010) by gokuyum [correction]

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4018.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Dec 2010 Sat 12:17 am   Quoting Sonbahar Annesinin hastalığı beşinci günüdüz gecesi, Hasan rüyasında kendisini evin bahçesinde otururken görüyordu. Tavşanlar da kafestetir. Birden kafesin kapısı açıldı ve tavşanlar koşarkan  Hasan’ın yanına gelip, Hasan bizi sat, annen kurtulma, dediler .   I did a try... the words I changed are in green.    6 correct answers again Sonbahar liked this message

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4019.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Dec 2010 Sat 12:15 am   Quoting tomac Let me try too.   Annesinin hastalığı beşinci gününün gecesi, Hasan rüyasında kendisini evin bahçesinde otururken görüyordu. Tavşanlar da kafesteydiler. Birden kafesin kapısı açıldı ve tavşanlar koşarak Hasan’ın yanına gelip, Hasan bizi sat, annen kurtulmak için, dediler.  9 correct answers.

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4020.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Dec 2010 Fri 11:38 pm   Quoting Sonbahar Annesinin hastalığın beşinci günüdüz gecesi, Hasan rüyasında kendisini evin bahçesinde otururken görüyordu. Tavşanlar da kafesteydi. Birden kafesin kapısı açıldı ve tavşanlar koşarlar Hasan’ın yanına gelip, Hasan bize sat, annen kurtulmayın, dediler .   Gokuyum şimdiden herşey için çok teşekkür ederim... Biraz zor olmuş... 6 of them correct. I will check again 20 minutes later. good luck

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4021.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Dec 2010 Fri 10:32 pm Fill in the blanks correctly   Annesinin hastalı_____ beşinci günü_____ gecesi, Hasan rüyasın______ kendisini evin bahçe_____de otururken görüyor____. Tavşanlar da kafeste_____. Birden kafesin kapı______ açıldı ve tavşanlar koşa_____ Hasan’ın yanına gelip, Hasan biz____ sat, annen kurtul_____, dedi____ . Edited (12/10/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/10/2010) by gokuyum

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4022.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Dec 2010 Fri 09:49 pm   Quoting yilgun-2010 Smart listens to the head, Stupid listens to the heart.    Zeki insan aklını, aptal insan kalbini dinler. mltm liked this message

Thread: Behzat Ç.

4023.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Dec 2010 Fri 09:45 pm   Quoting abdughupur     Pilli Bebein Olsun çok sevdim. Behzat Ç nin yeni bölümü ne zaman çikicak(çikilmiştir)? teşekkür ederim. i don´t know this sentence in tukish has problem or not, he...he... i want to ask what day the 11.bölüm come out?thanks.   From now on you can find new episodes on every monday on internet. You can also follow it here : http://diziport.com/behzat_c-izle  Have you watched all 10 episodes?

Thread: Turkish to English

4024.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Dec 2010 Wed 11:59 pm   Quoting deli    thankyou good night my dear mum    You can only hear "anacım" in old Turkish movies; now saying "anneciğim" is more popular.

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4025.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Dec 2010 Wed 11:41 pm   Quoting sesese Can someone help with this? Its the first part I am unsure of- gecmisini siktim. Thanks in advance   gecmisini siktim sabahın köründe arıyorsun uykusuz kaldim  This sentence seems weird. I think it must be like this: "Geçmişini siktiğim, sabahın köründe niye arıyorsun? Uykusuz kaldım."   We can translate it as something like that:   You whose past i fucked! Why do you call me in such an early time? You made me unable to sleep.

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4026.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Dec 2010 Wed 11:24 pm As you say "adımlar atılmadığı sürece" is adverbal clause. Because of it you can´t say "adımların atılmadığı sürece". But "adımların atılmadığı durumlar" is adjective clause and you should say "adımların" here not "adımlar" Edited (12/8/2010) by gokuyum walsht liked this message

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4027.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Dec 2010 Wed 11:17 pm   Quoting walsht "Bu konularda adımlar atılmadığı sürece kimse bizden normalleşmeyi beklemesin" dedi. adimlar seems to be the subject of the adverbial clause, why would it be wrong to say "adımların atılmadığı"    "Adımların atılmadığı" is wrong here.But it can be a correct expression in another sentence. Ex:: Gerekli adımların atılmadığı durumlar The situations that have never been taken necessary steps Edited (12/8/2010) by gokuyum walsht liked this message

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4028.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Dec 2010 Wed 11:04 pm   Quoting Inscrutable Helal olsun ! hahaha Tebrikler ! Ben her gün türk arkadaşımdan birçok ilginç cümle öğreniyorum mesela azmin elinden hiçbir şey kurtulamaz ! Neden türkçe öğrenmiyorsun?   Thank you  Well done!....Congratulations. I learn many interesting sentences from my Turkish friend every day. For example "Nothing can escape from the hands of determination!" Why don´t you learn Turkish?   Mysty liked this message

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4029.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Dec 2010 Tue 10:53 pm But I recommend you to use future tense. Using present tense instead of future tense sometimes can cause incoherency. Turkish is a very complex language. Only a native can fully master it. Edited (12/7/2010) by gokuyum tomac liked this message

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4030.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Dec 2010 Tue 10:44 pm   Quoting tomac Honestly, I didn´t know whether to choose this tense or just use future tense, and I decided to ask uncle Google for help there were no results for "ne zaman geleceğimi bileceğim" (with quotation marks) and that´s why I chose present tense. Could I simply use future tense in this sentence ? Would it sound better / more correct in Turkish ? (or maybe it is hard to say whether this one is better or not ?) Gelecek hafta ne zaman geleceğimi bileceğim. Sonra sana haber vereceğim.   Your choice. We often use present tense instead of future tense.  Ex:    Don´t worry I will come. 1) Merak etme gelirim. 2) Merak etme  geleceğim.   I am not sure which one is better. tomac liked this message

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4031.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Dec 2010 Tue 10:31 pm   Quoting tomac My try as learner (but, unfortunately, I´m not quite sure about it) :   Gelecek hafta ne zaman geleceğimi bilirim. Sonra sana haber veririm.    As you know "bilirim" and "haber veririm" is present tense but using them in sentences include "gelecek hafta" and "sonra" give them a future tense meaning. So the translation is correct. But it would be better if you used "öğrenirim" instead of "bilirim"   Edited (12/7/2010) by gokuyum

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4032.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Dec 2010 Tue 10:00 pm   Quoting zeytinne Thank you. We have something similar..but its green instead of white    Interesting.

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4033.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Dec 2010 Tue 09:56 pm   Quoting zeytinne What does it mean " beyaz türk" ?  Beyaz Türk means elite Turk. It is some kind of an sarcastic sentence.   Edited (12/7/2010) by gokuyum

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4034.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Dec 2010 Tue 09:51 pm birilerini hep ozluyorumda, bu baska hani olurya icin bi tuhafrtir bilemezsin kendinle ne yapacagini iste oyle bisey galiba I miss some people, but that´s something different, sometimes (it happens, isn´t it? that) your soul ("your-interior") is so odd (funny/amusing ?). You can´t know what you will do with yourself. And it seems it is something like that.   In my opinion it is a very good translation.

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4035.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Dec 2010 Tue 09:50 pm Let me explain more. "Hani olur ya" is some kind of an idiom that people prefer when they want to speak poetically. It means something like "sometimes it happens right?"  Ex:   Hani olur ya birden gülümser insan. You can translate this sentence differently: 1) Sometimes it happens right? All of a sudden people smile. 2)Sometimes all of a sudden people smile right?   But generally if you use if (-se, -sa) after "hani olur ya" you can translate it as just in case. Ex: 1) Hani olur ya gelmezse, kafana takma. Just in case if he doesn´t come, dont mind. 2) Hani olur ya gelirse beni ara. Just in case if he comes call me.   Edited (12/7/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/7/2010) by gokuyum tomac liked this message

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4036.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Dec 2010 Tue 09:13 pm This online dictionary tricked me I would also use straight. http://tureng.com/search/sek

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4037.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Dec 2010 Tue 08:59 pm   Quoting gokuyum   Use just in case here. Because "hani olur ya" is some kind of an idiom. You are a good observer. Keep going.      Nope I changed my mind. Let me explain it.   birilerini hep ozluyorumda, bu baska hani olur ya icin bi tuhaftir bilemezsin kendinle ne yapacagini iste oyle bisey galiba   Here "hani olur ya" means something like " sometimes". "So it happens right" is also more proper than "just in case" But use sometimes here.   But here in this sentence just in case is more proper.   Hani olur ya gelmezse beni ara. Just in case if he doesn´t come call me.   You should decide the correct expression looking at the context of the sentence.   Edited (12/7/2010) by gokuyum tomac liked this message

Thread: T to E please

4038.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Dec 2010 Tue 08:57 pm     Edited (12/7/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/7/2010) by gokuyum [failure]

Thread: very small translation into english needed

4039.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Dec 2010 Tue 08:39 pm   Quoting MarioninTurkey    Don´t mix me with others. Drink me sec.   Explain this sentence a bit more

Thread: T to E please

4040.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Dec 2010 Tue 08:37 pm Two hints:   1)Sometimes -de, -da means "but". Ex:   Ben geliyorum da o gelmiyor. I come but she doesn´t come.   2) sometimes ya means right as a question. Ex:   Bazen konuşamazsın ya normaldir. Sometimes you can´t talk right? It is normal       tomac liked this message

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4041.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Dec 2010 Tue 12:09 am   Quoting Sonbahar  "Kafayı yiyeceğim" ben...    A bit extreme but possible

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4042.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Dec 2010 Tue 12:05 am   Quoting Sonbahar Can we say: "Senin hakkında fazla bir şey hissetmiyorum"...? Thank you    Nope. Because "any" has a negative meaning here. It means "herhangi" and can have both positive and negative meanings. When we are sure it has a negative meaning we can also translate it as "hiç" Edited (12/7/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/7/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/7/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/7/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/7/2010) by gokuyum [damn keyboard] Zuzu liked this message

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4043.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Dec 2010 Mon 11:56 pm   Quoting Zuzu      Peki, if I want to say "I don´t feel anything for you anymore"? - Sana karşı artık ( hiç )bir şey hissetmiyorum.     Edited (12/6/2010) by gokuyum Zuzu liked this message

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4044.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Dec 2010 Mon 11:54 pm But I should say we often say "yemek yiyeceğim". to eat : yemek to eat meal/food : yemek yemek   I dont know why we say "yemek yemek" Because one can´t eat anything other than meal/food. There is no point to state it.

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4045.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Dec 2010 Mon 11:42 pm   Quoting ikicihan eve gidip yemek yiyeyeğim. (if dont say yemek, they ask "what will you eat?" ) to eat: yemek ye-mek (first one noun, second one verb.)   What can s/he eat other than "yemek"?   If one wants to be specific s/he has to say the name of the meal/food like hamburger, pizza. Edited (12/6/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/6/2010) by gokuyum Sonbahar liked this message

Thread: Behzat Ç.

4046.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Dec 2010 Mon 11:31 pm   Quoting abdughupur I downloaded untile episode 10. on episode 3 i finde the camera it used to be making films on the screen, two times, lol. i think Behzat(Erdal Beşikçioğlu) is a good actor. is there any one can help to me to finde the sound track of Behzat Ç? i can not find it on google, you tube is not opend in China. Thanks.  I agree. Erdal Beşikçioğlu is a great actor. I heard Pilli Bebek ( a music group) makes most of the soundtracks of the series.

Thread: i need this pls T-E thankss

4047.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Dec 2010 Mon 11:05 pm duracağım buradan yanımdan gidişini seyredeceğim I will stand and  watch your departure from me, from here herzaman olduğu gibi kıpırtısız, sakin gibi görüneceğim sen analama diye içimdeki kavgaları bastıracağım sen geçerken I will appear as if I am calm, motionless like always I will supress the battles /quarrels within me so as you  not  to comprehend while you pass by ( I formed sentences differently)  kavgasız olsun diye, beynimdeki fırtınları sileceğım gördüğünde fırtınasız olsun diye so as to be without fight I will erase the storms that are in my mind so that when you see; it will be without storm hayatım herzaman olduğu gibi saçma sapan olacak ama sana belli etm...eyeceğim your life will be utterly nonsensical as it always was but I wont reveal it to you organlarım birbirine vuracak my organs will strike each other arkandan sessiz bakacağım I will look silent behind you ben yine salağı oynayacağım... I will play the fool once again yanımda olsanda aynı şeyleri tekrar tekrar tekrar söylesen bende tekrar tekrar sıkılsam ama yanımda olsan may you  be with me and may you say the same things over and over and may i get bored  over and over but may i be near you.    Difficult text, nice try. Keep going. Edited (12/6/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/6/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/6/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: turkish to english translation please

4048.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Dec 2010 Mon 10:42 pm Ne acıdır insanın bildiğini anlatamaması. ´Ben´ deyip susması, ´Sen´ deyip ağlamaklı kalması.. Quoting Sooree Thanks a lot , really appreciate it ... but can anyone make it a tiny bit clearer/explain it please ...?   Thanks again btw    Sometimes you can´t tell what you know to the person in front of you. You want him/her to understand you or believe you without words. Sometimes you want to confess it and when you start to sentence with I or You; you can´t finish it. Sooree liked this message

Thread: Behzat Ç.

4049.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Dec 2010 Fri 08:10 pm   Quoting abdughupur i saw the bölüm one, it´s tragic. pure pure Behzat...i like the movie. i like the behzat Ç´s style, Eda is graceful actress. i don´t like the other actors who has wearing earrings, like woman. i´m just downloading other bölüms. thanks for your information bro.  I am glad you liked it. Keep watching. Do you understand Turkey Turkish?

Thread: Behzat Ç.

4050.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Dec 2010 Fri 08:08 pm   Quoting zeytinne      English didn´t borrow the word "bölüm" from Turkish yet  they still use "episode" or "part" .    Please dont be so sarcastic zeytinne. I understand what he says.

Thread: Another quiz for learners

4051.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Dec 2010 Fri 07:00 pm   Quoting Sonbahar Ahh evettt!!  Like "gelir gelmez"... which, I think, means as soon as he/she came, (he/she did some thing .....). Thank you gokuyum. Çok faydalı!!  Thanks. I will prepare another quiz tomorrow.

Thread: Another quiz for learners

4052.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Dec 2010 Fri 06:39 pm   Quoting Sonbahar I give my tongue to the cat!   The mistake is alır almak. It must be alır almaz.

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4053.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Dec 2010 Fri 05:57 pm   Quoting zeytinne kıtır kıtır ?    Nope. Look at other things.

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4054.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Dec 2010 Fri 05:50 pm   Quoting Sonbahar tıkır tıkır, instead of kıkır kıkır, is the only thing that comes to my mind now...    Nope.

Thread: Another quiz for learners

4055.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Dec 2010 Fri 05:41 pm   Quoting Sonbahar I am counting five IN MY POST Did they become six in THE QUIZ??  Yes. With your mistake they became 6.

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4056.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Dec 2010 Fri 05:35 pm   Quoting Sonbahar Akşama doğru ona sıra geldiğinde neredeyse yorgunluktan uyuyacak hala gelmiş. Onu içeri almışlar,keloğlan elindeki kağıdın içinde sakladığı çiçekleri prensese uzatmış. Prenses çiçekleri eline alır almak kıkır kıkır gülmeye başlamış, öyle çok gülüyormuş ki, kral ,kraliçe ve beraberindeki herkes prensesle gülmeye başlamış. Prenses mutluluktan uçuyor gibiymiş. Beş hata buldum... Umarım   4 points

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4057.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Dec 2010 Fri 05:30 pm   Quoting Sonbahar Akşama doğru ona sıra geldiğinde neredeyse yorgunluktan uyuyacak hala gelmiş. Onu içeri almışlar,keloğlan elindeki kağıdın içinde sakladığı çiçekleri prensese uzattış. Prenses çiçekleri eline alır almak kıkır kıkır gülmeye başlamış, öyle çok gülüyormuş ki, kral ,kraliçe ve beraberindeki herkes prensesle gülmeye başlamış. Prenses mutluluktan uçuyor gibiymiş. Dört hata buldum... Umarım   3 points. Find the other two.

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4058.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Dec 2010 Fri 05:30 pm   Quoting Sonbahar Akşama doğru ona sıra geldiğinde neredeyse yorgunluktan uyuyacak hala gelmiş. Onu içeri almışlar,keloğlan elindeki kağıdın içinde sakladığı çiçekleri prensese uzattış. Prenses çiçekleri eline alır almak kıkır kıkır gülmeye başlamış, öyle çok gülüyormuş ki, kral ,kraliçe ve beraberindeki herkes prensesle gülmeye başlamış. Prenses mutluluktan uçuyor gibiymiş. Dört hata buldum... Umarım   3 points. Find the other two.

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4059.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Dec 2010 Fri 05:14 pm Find the five mistakes I did.   Akşama doğru ona sıra geldikinde neredeyse yorgunlaktan uyuyacak hale gelmiş. Onu içeri almışlar,keloğlan elindeki kağıdın içinde sakladığı çiçekleri prensese uzattış. Prenses çiçekleri eline alır almak kıkır kıkır gülmeye başlamış, öyle çok gülüyormuş ki, kral ,kraliçe ve beraberindeki herkes prensesle gülmeye başlamış. Prenses mudluluktan uçuyor gibiymiş. Edited (12/3/2010) by gokuyum zeytinne liked this message

Thread: translation: turkish >> english plz!

4060.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Dec 2010 Fri 04:03 pm   Quoting zeytinne      İt was asked more about "default" than "fault" .    I asked that question I wanted to show fault means also kusur in Turkish not only mistake.

Thread: translation: turkish >> english plz!

4061.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Dec 2010 Fri 03:56 pm You can see here what fault means: http://www.turkishdictionary.net/?word=Fault

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4062.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Dec 2010 Fri 03:53 pm   Quoting Sonbahar I think that flaw is more appropriate for kusur... what do you think?    I agree

Thread: translation: turkish >> english plz!

4063.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Dec 2010 Fri 03:32 pm   Quoting Sonbahar   Don´t look at others in order to searsh for their defaults, otherwise you will find them out. To hide other people´s defaults is a valuable thing you do for yourself. This way you´ll be (seen as) defaultless. My try.   I have a question. Do "fault" and "default" have same meanings?

Thread: How Sooree changed the forum into a translation of Facebook

4064.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Dec 2010 Fri 03:20 pm I don´t translate Sooree´s post too. I only correct the mistakes of people who translated her posts. But her translation requests also give new learners an opportunity to try themselves. But as Zeytinne said other users´ translation requests disappear on the list on main screen. WE shouldn´t limit anyone but we should find another solution. I think soree should open only one topic in one day and she should post every texts there she wants to be translated. zeytinne liked this message

Thread: translation to english please (Erkek Dediğin . .)

4065.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Dec 2010 Fri 02:56 pm Erkek Dediğin . . the one they call man ... Seni sonuna kadar sahiplenip korumalı should protect and embrace you until the end Ölümüne dürüst ve haysiyetli olmalı. he should be honest and dignified to the death  "Hayır" dediğinde o gerçekten "hayır" olmalı.  when he says no he should really mean no Yanında olmadığın zamanlarda senin için endişelenmeli he should be concerned for you in the times you are not  near him  Seninle ilgili herşeye karışmalı sana bakan bir çift gözden seni kıskanmalı. he should interfere everthing related to you, he should be jealous of you from the eyes that look at you Seni gözünün rengi dudağının şekli için değil seni sen olduğun için sevmeli; he should love you because who you are; not for the shape of you lips or the colour of your eyes Tüm kusurlarınla ve günahlarınla.. with all of your faults and sins Sevgisiyle beraber SAYGISI olmalı.  he should have respect and love (for you) Onsuz dışarı çıkmana izin vermediği gibi kendisi de sensiz dışarı çıkmamalı. he should not go out without you and not allow you to go out without him Her "Neden.? Niçin.? Niye.?" sorularına "ben erkeğim" diye cevap vermemeli. He shouldn´t reply to every why , what for, how come by saying Im a man  Her insan gibi şerefi için yaşamalı Like every person he should live for his honor. kavga etmeli ama kalp kırmamalı... he should quarrel but not hurt feelings 1000. bulusmaya bile 1. deki gibi aynı heyecanla gelmeli SENSİZ YAPAMAMALI... He should come to 1000. meeting as it is the first. He shouldn´t do without you.    I didn´t like this macho bullshit. Edited (12/3/2010) by gokuyum Sooree liked this message

Thread: trans turkish to english please

4066.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Dec 2010 Fri 02:46 pm   Quoting deli  Merak etme üzülmüyorum peşinden. Ki sen bana unuttum derken, senin kim olduğu hatırlamaya çalışıyordum ben.    dont worry I am not upset after you, I was trying to remember who you were while you were saying that I forgot (you)    my try     Sooree liked this message

Thread: learning again :)

4067.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Dec 2010 Fri 02:39 pm   Quoting zeytinne      Whats the difference between yemek yerken and yemek yiyerken ?    There is no such thing as "yiyerken". It is mistyped. "yerken" is correct. here some examples: yerken  yerken,   giderken  giterken,  korurken  korurken

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4068.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Dec 2010 Fri 10:44 am   Quoting karateka_girls selam every body... long time no see you .. hmmmm ok i´ll ask bout "iken"... can everybody explain to me bout that word ...... i mean how we use it?  and "iken" can i say it is "conjungtion" ?and i hope all of u can give some of sentences include "iken" to me ...neyse is am right if i write " yemek yer iken o geldi"? hepsine cok saol ... endonezyadan selam solye  -ken simply means when/while  Yemek yerken o geldi. He came while I was eating. Edited (12/3/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: translation into english please

4069.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Dec 2010 Fri 10:43 am   Quoting Sonbahar   How strange! Winning is not enough for people; they also want to see other people losing..! My try.     Sonbahar liked this message

Thread: A difficult quiz for Turkish learners I prepared

4070.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Dec 2010 Thu 11:48 pm   Quoting MrsBee Nooo, I am too late for this! Hard one, though! Thanks gokuyum. Please come back with more!    I will tomorrow

Thread: A difficult quiz for Turkish learners I prepared

4071.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Dec 2010 Thu 11:12 pm I hope you learned new things about Turkish grammer. Take care.

Thread: A difficult quiz for Turkish learners I prepared

4072.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Dec 2010 Thu 10:56 pm   Quoting Sonbahar daha fazla çalıştım......... kafayı yedim... "Keloğlan çok akıllıymış ancak akıllı olduğu kadar da tembelmiş." olabilir mi?       Bravo. You are a very good student. I hope you didnt cheat.      Sonbahar liked this message

Thread: 3 vakte kadar yolculuk var??

4073.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Dec 2010 Thu 10:52 pm   Quoting sonunda ooops sorry gokuyum.   no problem. good night

Thread: 3 vakte kadar yolculuk var??

4074.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Dec 2010 Thu 10:48 pm   Quoting smaragda what means that? 3 vakte kadar yolculuk var There is a journey up to 3 times. Especially fortune tellers say that what they predict will happen up to 3 times because they are not sure. 3 times can be 3 days, 3 months or 3 years. This means its time is uncertain for fortune tellers.

Thread: TUR-ENG

4075.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Dec 2010 Thu 10:26 pm   Quoting sonunda     The entrusted (thing) in the heart consists of you/is you.   My try

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4076.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Dec 2010 Thu 10:22 pm   Quoting MarioninTurkey    sev seni seveni kıymet nedir bileni hiç boşuna aramA BIrakıpta giden  love the one who loves you who knows what value means (who knows your value) don´t waste time searching for (never search for in vain) the one who leaves and goes

Thread: TUR-ENG

4077.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Dec 2010 Thu 10:00 pm   Quoting sonunda     Just a small thing- We would normally say ´I want neither to love nor to be loved.........´not begin the sentence with ´neither´.  Thanks for the information sonunda. I will correct it.

Thread: TUR-ENG

4078.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Dec 2010 Thu 09:54 pm   Quoting tassia HAKEDENİ HAYATIMA SOKARIM,HAKETMEYENİN HAYATINA SOKARIM!!    "Sokmak" has many meanings. In this sentence we see two "sokmak " First one is "to let someone in", other one is "to fuck" I let one who deserves in my life, I fuck life of one who doesnt deserve. Edited (12/2/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: TUR-ENG

4079.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Dec 2010 Thu 09:46 pm   Quoting tassia aRtıq n£ s£wm£y! !st!yorum n£d£ s£w!Lm£y! çünqü h£p yaRım kaLdı s£wm£L£r!m w£ h£p saHt£yd! s£w£nL£r!M    I want neither to love nor to be loved from now on. Because my lovings always remained half. And my lovers were always fake. Edited (12/2/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/2/2010) by gokuyum sonunda liked this message

Thread: What is the translation for \"Bugun 3 kisi beni ruyasinda gormus gidici miyim?\"

4080.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Dec 2010 Thu 09:35 pm We use muş - müş generally to tell what someone told us or to tell something we haven´t witnessed. We can translate it in many ways. S/he told me that... is not the only way. Because you can also use it when you are talking about a person´s deeds in the past you read in a book. Then you should use past perfect tense to cover muş -müş´s meaning. Also sometimes you have to use present perfect tense. Or you can cover its meaning with using apparently. Edited (12/2/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: What is the translation for \"Bugun 3 kisi beni ruyasinda gormus gidici miyim?\"

4081.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Dec 2010 Thu 09:21 pm We use muş - müş generally to tell what someone told us or to tell something we haven´t witnessed. We can translate it in many ways. S/he told that... is not the only way.  Because you can also use it when you are talking about a person´s deeds in the past you read in a book. Then you should use past perfect tense to cover muş -müş´s meaning. Also sometimes you have to use present perfect tense. Or you can cover its meaning with using apparently. Edited (12/2/2010) by gokuyum Edited (12/2/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: What is the translation for \"Bugun 3 kisi beni ruyasinda gormus gidici miyim?\"

4082.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Dec 2010 Thu 09:16 pm   Quoting zeytinne      ...told that they.......    not necessary.

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4083.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Dec 2010 Thu 06:27 pm   Quoting Sonbahar Thank you gokuyum!!  ipucunu bekleyeceğim...    No clues. I want others to try it. You can learn your mistakes from me in private.

Thread: A difficult quiz for Turkish learners I prepared

4084.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Dec 2010 Thu 06:20 pm   Quoting Sonbahar bakıyorum....bakıyorum ...  başka hata göremiyorum    I see two mistakes easily when I look at it. But you did a good job.

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4085.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Dec 2010 Thu 06:13 pm   Quoting Sonbahar sanırım yolu(nu) yalnış...başka aradım ama cıkmıyor...    Nope.

Thread: A difficult quiz for Turkish learners I prepared

4086.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Dec 2010 Thu 06:06 pm   Quoting Sonbahar Vallah billah böyle şey yapmadım...sadece şalıştım    bravo. then find your two mistakes.

Thread: A difficult quiz for Turkish learners I prepared

4087.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Dec 2010 Thu 06:02 pm Did you cheat? There are a few mistakes     Edited (12/2/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: A difficult quiz for Turkish learners I prepared

4088.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Dec 2010 Thu 05:33 pm Fill in the blanks correctly please. I will check them later. (Native speakers please dont interfere)   Keloğlan çok akıllıymış ancak akıllı oldu____ kadar da tembel____. Ana____ hadi oğlum, bahçe____ bir soğan al dese, iki saat düşü_____, üç saat hesap yapar, o soğanı bahçeden ayağına n_____ getirtebilir, onu düşünürmüş. Sonun____ bir yolu___ bulurmuş ama annesi de bu ara___ çıldırır durur____.

Thread: translation to english

4089.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Dec 2010 Wed 10:20 am   Quoting tomac     I think saçanlar means "those who sow/scatter" (from saçmak - to sow, to scatter). Ayrılık saçanlar would mean something like "those who sow separateness" (maybe it could be translated as "those who sow discord" ?). My try at last part:   Those who sow discord (agitate for separateness?) are not from us (are not among us / do not belong to us).    correct

Thread: translation to english

4090.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Dec 2010 Wed 10:19 am   Quoting sonunda     Islam is such,together(ness) is the right way,separateness is not for us. (I don´t know what saçanlar is)   My try    Bravo. You can even translate a wrong Turkish sentence correctly. As you translated it must be "birliktelik" or "birlikte olmak" So no need for parenthesises

Thread: translation turkish to english plz

4091.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Dec 2010 Wed 10:14 am   Quoting tomac My try as learner:   ´Ben´ Diye BαşLαmαyı Hαk ettiğim Tek CümLe Şu ;    The only sentence that I have right to start with "I" ("by-saying-I") is the following ;   ´Ben´ ŞαhitLik eDerim ki ALLAH´tαn Bαşkα iLαh yoktuR ! I testify that there is no god other than Allah.      great translation

Thread: small translation to english please

4092.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Dec 2010 Wed 10:12 am   Quoting Sonbahar Quote:deli I know this has nothing to do with this translation but there is a saying about eating ones head  I cant remember what it is and what it means, any idea gokuyum    " kafayı yedim" veya " kafayı yiyeceğim"  Is it that ?

Thread: small translation to english please

4093.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Dec 2010 Wed 10:11 am There is also a saying "başının etini yemek" which can be translated as " to eat someone´s head´s meat" It means "to make someone crazy with endless complaints." Sooree liked this message

Thread: trk to eng small pls

4094.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Nov 2010 Tue 02:46 pm   Quoting scalpel       Let us see if only changing söylenem to söylemen is enough to make it grammatically correct. "gercekten acitsada gule gule demek bazen soylemen gerekir cunku en cok seven ilk terkedilir" Does the bold part seem to you correct? Probably the writer wanted to say , "bazen güle güle demek gerekir" => "Gerçekten acıtsa da bazen güle güle demek gerekir çünkü en çok seven ilk terkedilir." Now the sentence is grammatically correct. But being grammatically correct doesn´t mean it makes sense. That´s what I and gokuyum are trying to say from the beginning.    Two explanations: There can be such an explanation one day the one you love a lot will leave you and you only will be able to say  good-bye even it hurts. But sentence also can mean that you have to say good-bye even it hurts  before the one you love leaves you if you dont want to get hurt more. I think first explanation is more possible because second explanation is almost absurd. But as I say there is an ambiguity. Edited (11/30/2010) by gokuyum Edited (11/30/2010) by gokuyum Edited (11/30/2010) by gokuyum

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4095.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Nov 2010 Tue 01:35 pm   Quoting insallah   My try , wait for checks  Is it the night that makes people sad, or is it the human waits for the night to feel sad. Is it the night that makes you think of me, or is it me waiting for the night to think of you

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4096.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Nov 2010 Tue 01:29 pm   Quoting insallah    My Try  Beautiful women are becoming stupid with love, but girls that are both clever and beautiful are also wise while in love. Because of this they always stay alone.   "Bu yüzden hep yalnız kalır..." This sentence is wrong. It must be "Bu yüzden hep yalnız kalırlar" or "Bu yüzden onlar hep yalnız kalır" Edited (11/30/2010) by gokuyum Edited (11/30/2010) by gokuyum Sooree liked this message

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4097.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Nov 2010 Tue 01:25 pm   Quoting deli      be the the one whose place cant be filled when you leave not the one who fills the emptiness when you arrive my try    Good translation. But why did you change the positions of sentences? This can confuse new learners. Don´t be  the one who fills the emptiness when you arrive,  be the the one whose place cant be filled when you leave Sooree liked this message

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4098.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Nov 2010 Tue 12:58 pm   Quoting deli  TAMAMDA SONRA SENİ NİYE YARATTI BEN ONU ANLAMADIM HİÇ GEREK YOK after he completed you I dont understand why he created me there was no need   my try  Ok but why did he create you after? I didn´t understand it. No need.   Sooree liked this message

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4099.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Nov 2010 Tue 12:55 pm   Quoting Sonbahar Ben zavallı bir acemi olmasaydım kesinlikle bu çeviriyi yapardım...    small corrections to help you learn better Edited (11/30/2010) by gokuyum

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4100.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Nov 2010 Mon 10:58 pm   Quoting deli Geçmişi düşüneceksin...Neredeyse dakika dakika...Ama kötüleri atlayarak...Onunla geçtiğin yerlerden geçmek isteyeceksin... Gittiğin yerlere gitmek... Bu sana hiç iyi gelmeyecek...Ama bile bile yapacaksın... Biri sana içindeki acıyı söküp atabileceğini söylese, kaçacaksın... Aslında kurtulmak istediğin halde, o acıyı yaşamak için direneceksin... Hayatının geri kalanını onu düşünerek geçirmek isteyeceksin....Aksini iddia edenlerden nefret edeceksin... Herkesi ona benzetip...Kimseyi onun yerine koyamayacaksın...Hiçbir şey oyalamayacak seni... sığınacaksın... Birkaç saat kafanı bulandıran ama asla onu unutturmayan.Sadece bir müddet buzlu camın arkasından seyrettiren... Bütün şarkılar sizin için yazılmış gibi gelecek   you will think of the past  almost minute by minute, but  ignoring the bad, you will want to pass the places you passed with him, to go the places that you went, but this wont do you any good, but you will purposely do this, you will run away from someone if they say  to you that they(or  you)will be able to remove do away with the pain which is inside of you, though actually you want to be rescued, you will insist on living that pain..... you will want to spend the rest of your life thinking of him you will hate people who claim the opposite, you will liken everyone  similar to him but no one will be able to replace him you will not put anyone into his place nothing will be able to distract you, you will take refuge with medicine(?   a guess)which cloud your head for a few hours but never  makes him forgotten, only a brief period of time that makes you watch through an icy window it  will seem as if all the songs have been written for you my try at that bit     Edited (11/29/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Turkish to English

4101.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Nov 2010 Mon 10:16 pm   Quoting sonunda The words themselves aren´t difficult except they run into one another,several letters are missing and you can´t tell where one sentence ends and the next begins-hence it´s difficult to know which verb belongs where. Apart from that it´s a piece of cake!    Maybe it can be understood by a Turk but believe me it cant be translated to English without a few corrections other than punctuations. I would want to correct it but even reading it gives me pain. As a Turkish teacher candidate I protest the one who wrote it. Edited (11/29/2010) by gokuyum Edited (11/29/2010) by gokuyum sonunda and deli liked this message

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4102.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Nov 2010 Mon 10:11 pm   Quoting yilgun-2010 What was the first language of the world? And what is the main source of the world languages? The first language was born in a lost continent at Pacific Ocean between America and Asia BC 50.000-9.500. And the relations among Turkish Language, Mu, Maya, Atlantis, Astec, Inka, Uighur, Hun, Roman, Egypt, Greek, Babil, Sümer, Akkad, Uighur, Indu, China, civilizations... Do you know?     Babylonian i guess

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4103.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Nov 2010 Mon 10:07 pm I didnt understand this sentence. Why should we say goodbye? What if somebody loves another so much? What is the connection between these sentences? Please someone explain this to me? Or is there a ambiguity? Edited (11/29/2010) by gokuyum harp00n liked this message

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4104.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Nov 2010 Mon 10:01 pm   Quoting Argon As usual guys, thanks for translating my last post. What would I do without you?! I have another, this one is real difficult - for me at least! Can anyone help please? Thanks in advance. stersen alabilirsin ama tek basina kiz olmadanyoksa yoknereye gelecpara mara sozu yokne demek bu burada yokumanlamiyorum acik konusyok gitmiyorum binali abi ben turkiyede degilimIngilterede yasiyorum 9 senediranaladim o zaman bosuna ugrasma dukkanlasadi kesinlikle yok diyorbizim bir sozumuz yok buradanu bil ki kimse seni parayla korkutmuyor sana sadinin soylediklerini aktariyoruz, kimin kiz da sadece dukkan satilana kadar tutuyor seni belki para gelir diye sonra aatacak seni basindan bunu da bilesinizim sozumuz degil o sadinin sozuanliyorsun ama anlamak istemiyosrun sen aslindaneysepekii sen de kendine iyi baktekrar konusuruzsen neler yapiyorsun izmirdemisin hala sormadimsenin soziun geciyor dukkani alammaya bizim degil hala goremiyormusunbizim gecse simdiye kadar alirdik dukkanisadi sadece sana verdecek o dukkani bu kadar acik ve netcalisiyormusundukkan senin degil kicarsamda gelince sadiyle kendin konusursun o zamanhayatin tadini cikaryeterince calistin gecmistepv ye gidersen selam soyle benden de taniyanlaram aptalsin sen oglumbibim oraya gitmekle isimiz hic yokbunlar si soyleyenler seninle oynuyorlar ac gozunu aptal cikaranlar biz degil yanindaki dost sandiklarin ac gozunu artikyetere basokkendine iyi bakbyetabii bilmezsinsenin tek basina herkesden uzak oturup dusunmen gerekama seni yalniz birakm iyorlar ki durmadan beynin yikaniyorsabah aksamnasil saglikli dusunebilirsin kiunutma ki seni bizden cok dusunen yok su dunyadainsanin ailesidir herzaman insani sevenneyse gel de halletteneysekonusuruz gelinceslm niluferkusura bakmakardesimlemesguldum birazben gidemem bu so biryerebuyur gel benim kapim acikama isisni kendin halletbenim ekmek alcak param yokorallaraara kadar gidemembenim de birsuru problemim var evdebildigini zannediyorumyle ilgileniyorsun pekiide is bakicanrelerdekiicok iyi cok sagolsenin kizin nasilbuyumustur iyice    If this is Turkish then I speak another language.

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4105.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Nov 2010 Mon 09:55 pm   Quoting deli      neither  worry nor sadness remain it passes very quickly my try   neither  worry nor sadness remain time is a water that flows

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4106.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Nov 2010 Mon 08:53 pm   Quoting sonunda     Sometimes you will know how  to go,without even looking behind. And sometimes you will say that you love,before too long.   My try     Sooree liked this message

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4107.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Nov 2010 Mon 12:27 pm   Quoting canimarab   gercekten acitsada gule gule demek bazen soylenem gerekir cunku en cok seven ilk terkedilir    The sentence is wrong. It is hard to understand what it means.

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4108.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Nov 2010 Mon 12:26 pm Seda means sound, voice.

Thread: very urgent short translation turkish -english please

4109.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Nov 2010 Sun 06:55 pm   Quoting Henry Thanks for your corrections gokuyum  ben seninle dolmuşum her tarafım sen olmuş I am full (completed) with you, my every part has become you her gün bir tarafımı koparacağım kendimden every day I will break off a part of me from myself ben kendim de ben kalana kadar... until I remain myself too      thanks for your correction too

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4110.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Nov 2010 Sun 03:22 am   Quoting Henry Hmmm sounds like poetry or a love message. My try as a learner, but it is not as poetic ben seninle dolmuşum her tarafım sen olmuş I am full (completed) with you, my every side have become you ripen her gün bir tarafımı koparacağım kendimden every day you I will break off a part of me from myself ben kendim de ben kalana kadar... I myself too, until I remain me myself too Wait for corrections, but you get the general idea       Henry liked this message

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4111.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Nov 2010 Sun 03:02 am   Quoting barba_mama     I used my grandfather as an example because you said something about old people all wanting to be young again and live more. In my experience (with my grandfather, but also his father, and other older people that I have watched) this is not always the case. Yes, there are older people who are like this. But people who are happy with what they have accomplished don´t want to go back in time.    There are people like your grandfather who seem happy with their  achievements in the past. But what about majority? What can console people who think their lives are completely a failure or people who think if they had more time and energy they would do lots of things they always desired. Can death and being nothing console them? No on the contrary this will make them unhappy and depressed.Am I wrong?

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4112.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Nov 2010 Sat 01:38 pm I will write more about this issue when i have time.Keep following.

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4113.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Nov 2010 Sat 01:29 pm   Quoting barba_mama     I think a lot of what you say here is about unhappy people. The day my grandfather died he said he was proud of what he had done with his life, and he was ready to go. He was never a religious person, and he didn´t believe in god. He had a long life, he used it well, and he was done. Some people are happy with this, they don´t need to have more. He had raised his children well, all his grandchildren had also become adults with good jobs and happy lifes, and he even had wonderfull times with his great grandchildren. Perhaps it´s hard for some to believe, but he didn´t need the notion of heaven to be okay with the idea of death. I don´t think "betting on God" is a win-win situation. Sometimes people use the idea of heaven to not do anything about making the world better today. They limit their good deeds to not creating a better world, but to getting "plus-points" on the scoreboard to heaven. Parying five times a day at home for plus-points, instead of going out in the real world and helping people... That is why I don´t count on the idea of heaven. If I would do that, I would accept all miserable things in life and not try to make them better. I would see life as a waiting room, instead of the wonder that it really is. I don´t want to live my life like that. I believe, if you get the best out of your life itself, you don´t need to believe in afterlife to be happy.  We have different approaches to religions and afterworld concept. Here read this: http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_48678  I dont want to talk after a dead person so I will not make a comment about your grandfather.

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4114.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Nov 2010 Sat 01:23 pm   Quoting Daydreamer Gokuyum, what you wrote sounds like accepting delusion only because it helps you do avoid the fear of dying. I suppose many older people suddenly turn very religious (regardless of the religion they follow) because they begin to be afraid of their mortality. And, rather than accept the fact that everything comes to an end, everything dies, they choose to believe in something that gives them hope of living forever. Yet, they fact they are afraid does not make the idea of God more real or more credible. It´s the same with people who were lost or ill, many of them claim that it was their faith that helped them to get back on the right path or to get better. This, however, is not a proof of god´s existence. Faith is an individual matter and if it was possible to convince believers that god doesn´t exist or non-believers that god does exist, there wouldn´t be so many books, philosophical movements and religions. But there are So the only thing we can be sure of is that it is all up to interpretation. You either choose to accept there is a deity whose existence cannot be proven. Or you choose to reject a belief not supported by evidence    I want to tell if believing a God makes people happy what is wrong with it? What if this world is some kind of an illusion can you prove the opposite? If you cant you should accept there is a possibility that you are the delusional one instead of believers.I guess we can only learn the truth when we die.

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4115.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Nov 2010 Sat 10:30 am   Quoting deli      You smashed my life into  pieces, you polluted my life, you threw mud, you took my dreams, you killed my feelings, you darkened my life,  I became pitch black, you took my everything ,you took whatever good there is within me??? ne varsa????? you left hate you are my greatest / biggest enemy IM BORED SO I tried to translate it . I SEE NE VARSA all the time but dont know what it means  You seem to know what it means because you translated it correctly. It means "whatever there is"

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4116.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Nov 2010 Sat 08:01 am Paramparça ettiniz hayatımı...kirlettiniz...çamura buladınız...hayallerimi aldınız...duygularımı öldürdünüz...hayatımı kararttınız...ben kapkara oldum... (...?) çaldınız ...herşeyimi aldınız... herşeyimi... içimde güzel ne varsa aldınız... nefret bıraktınız... siz benim en büyük düşmanlarımsınız...

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4117.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Nov 2010 Sat 04:16 am   Quoting barba_mama I disagree I don´t think everybody needs a god, and I also don´t think one has to be unhappy not knowing the reason for existence.    Well if you say so, i respect you. But I believe you may change your opinion when you are old. Because people start to analyze their lives when they are old and judge themselves for what they did or didnt. And even the biggest achievements seem small and insignificant to them. The reason of this is people never satisfy with what they have or what they have done. We always want or to do more. This is our nature. I believe our sole purpose is to improve ourselves. When people get old they have less possibilities to improve themselves. They all want to live more and be young. But this is not possible. This sole fact can easily make them depressed and unhappy. But believing a God also means believing an afterlife. This means you will live and you wont be old anymore after you die. You can still improve yourself without a limit in a different way. All happiness in this world is temporary. Because everything has an end. But the thing human desires is endless happiness. And only possible way to get this is to bet on God. You will not lose anything but maybe you will gain everything. Edited (11/27/2010) by gokuyum Edited (11/27/2010) by gokuyum

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4118.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Nov 2010 Sat 02:00 am   Quoting scalpel     I will follow your recommendation and watch it      I hope you will like it. Check ekşisözlük and see how many people like it like me.

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4119.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Nov 2010 Sat 01:30 am   Quoting scalpel I haven´t watched the serial yet, so I didn´t have any clue...Is it really that great as what you make of it?    I dont watch TV. And there are only two Turkish Tv series I follow on internet. One of them is Behzat Ç. Especially Erdal Beşikçioğlu who plays Behzat Ç is a great actor. Behzat Ç is also a book adaptation. He is a character created by author Emrah Serbes. Here are the books: Her Temas İz Bırakır and Son Hafriyat. Especially first episode of the series is like a movie. I recommend it.

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4120.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Nov 2010 Fri 01:30 pm Behzat Ç. is one of the greatest Turkish TV series. It is very realistic. The language that characters use is street language and we often hear many beep sounds when they talk. Series is about a police commissioner´s and his team members´ lives and their struggles to solve mysterious murder cases. The police commissioner´s name is Behzat Ç. He is some kind of an anti-hero. He prefers to use torturing to make criminals speak and he has no respect to his superiors. He got divorced long time ago and his daughter committed suicide to get revenge from him because he arrested his lover because of carrying drugs. He met with his first love (who didn´t want to marry with him when she learned he will be a police when they were young) again after her daughter´s death. She is a leftwinger and she has still doubts about polices. Behzat still loves her. Behzat´s team members are Harun, Hayalet (ghost) and Akbaba (condor). They call one other with their nicknames for so long time they even don´t remember each other´s real names. Harun is a funny character who eats too much. But he is the one who holds up Behzat as an example most. He also uses torture to make criminals speak. He loves Eda who is a police secretary. But Eda loves another police whose name is Selim. Harun doesn´t want to accept this. He always argues with Selim. Hayalet is a quiet type. He is from a poor family and emphasizes with people easily. Akbaba is older than Harun and Hayalet. Solving murder cases is an obsession for him. He always listens his radiotelephone to catch a new murder news even at nights he is not on duty. But this TV series have a huge rating problem. It hasn´t become popular. Last week´s rating results show this clearly. It is 16. program on its day in rating grading scales. Many fans started weeks ago to warn the channel which airs it not to end the show. And rumors say channel gave a three episode chance to series. I hope it will not be canceled. Edited (11/26/2010) by gokuyum Edited (11/27/2010) by gokuyum Edited (11/27/2010) by gokuyum Edited (11/27/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: phrase translation turkish to english please

4121.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Nov 2010 Fri 12:05 pm   Quoting Sooree     Thank you so much guys! But what does it mean by "if you come I end" ? Does it mean that they will not respond or something like that ... ?      If she comes the game will end for the player because she is the last stone he waits. There is a wordplay here. It can mean many things but according to me if lover comes everything will be about her and the existence of other will not be important anymore. Edited (11/26/2010) by gokuyum Sooree liked this message

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4122.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Nov 2010 Fri 11:44 am We are working hard upstairs.   Biz yukarıda sıkı çalışıyoruz.

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4123.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Nov 2010 Fri 11:42 am   Quoting deli      hi harpoon would it be better to use sıcak tutmak beni sıcak tutmani özledim???  Yours is more literal.

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4124.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Nov 2010 Tue 10:15 pm   Quoting sonunda     I just tweaked the English slightly.  thanks

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4125.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Nov 2010 Tue 07:12 pm   Quoting Sooree can anyone translate this please: Sahip olmadığı şeylere üzülmeyen, sahip olduklarına sevinen insan, akıllı bir insandir.     One who doesn´t sadden for what s/he doesn´t have and be happy with what s/he has is an intelligent person. Sooree liked this message

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4126.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Nov 2010 Tue 08:30 am   Quoting tomac My try as learner:   İnsan sıkı tutmalı yüreğini ; çünkü gitmesine izin verirse, çok geçmeden aklı da gider peşinden ! Literal: Human have to hold his heart tight; because if he/she allows it to go, soon his/her mind will follow it too. Bit changed, hope it sounds better : Man should hold his heart tight. Because, if he let it go (release it), soon his mind will follow it.   Kaybetmeyi ahlaksız bir kazanca tercih et. İlkinin acısı bir an, ötekinin vicdan azabı bir ömür boyu sürer... Literal: Prefer losing to an immoral gain. Pain of the first one is a moment, the second one´s stings of remorse last for the lifetime. Bit changed:It is better to lose than to gain in immoral way. In the former case, pain lasts only for a moment, but in the latter, stings of remorse last for the lifetime...    Great translation but you have one little mistake. But it seems you corrected it in the second version of your translation. Here is it: Literal: Prefer losing to an immoral gain. Pain of the first one is (wrong) a moment, the second one´s stings of remorse last for the lifetime. The verb "last" is the common verb of two sentences and you should use "last" instead of "is" Your second version is correct   tomac liked this message

Thread: please find lyrics and translate for me please

4127.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Nov 2010 Tue 07:46 am   Quoting dilliduduk   Kıraç – Ahu Gözlüm My black-eyed  Kara gözlüm kar yağdırdın başıma Acımadın yarim yarim gözün yaşına Sevdan ile yandım yar ateşine Sen de benim gibi yan kara (ahu) gözlüm My black eyed; you made it snow to my head You didn´t show mercy my love my love to my eyes´ tears  I burnt with your love to your fire  May you burn like me my black eyed    Sinem cerrah cerrah yaram kanıyor Gönül her deminde yar yar seni arıyor Gözlerim dünyayı bir hoş görüyor Çekildi gözümden can kara (ahu) gözlüm My chest (saying) surgeon surgeon, my wound bleeds Soul seeks you my love my love every time My eyes see the world so different My eyes faded away my black eyed   Bir garibim yar yar yandım ateşte Şeyda bülbül gibi yar yar kaldım ateşte Adını söylerim yar yar en son nefeste Dünyadan vazgeçti geçti can kara (ahu) gözlüm…  I feel awkward my love my love i burnt in the fire I stayed in the fire my love my love like a crazy nightingale I say your name my love my love at my last breath Soul gave up the world my black-eyed        I will let someone else translate it  It was hard to translate. Maybe i did a few mistakes and someone can correct them.  Some lyrics are missing but it is not very important. Here is the song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6yrDtfv1t4     Edited (11/23/2010) by gokuyum Edited (11/23/2010) by gokuyum Edited (11/23/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: short translation into english please

4128.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Nov 2010 Sun 07:33 pm   Quoting Sooree Vur bagrima senin vurdugun yerde ben sera isletmesine girir dunyaya GUL pazarlarim        Hit my chest. I open a vegetable glasshouse enterprise at where you hit and sell roses to the world.   There is an old saying in Turkish "The roses grow at where your teacher hits you" I think writer changed this in his/her mind like this "The roses grow at where beloved one hits you" then s/he exaggerated it. Edited (11/21/2010) by gokuyum Sooree and tomac liked this message

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4129.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Nov 2010 Sat 10:08 pm sakın ağlayayım deme   don´t say ever let me cry.   This is a literal translation. It means:   don´t ever cry.

Thread: The Existence

4130.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Nov 2010 Sat 09:48 pm They asked to Hodja : "What is the definition of unhappiness for you?" He answered "Not to understand the purpose of your own existence." According to the science the purpose of our existence is not different from other creatures. It is procreating. How can a person be satisfied with this when even some of smart animals cant be. This kind of answer never made any human happy. We always sought a higher purpose than this. Some of us believed there is a God and there is another world better than this; our life here is only a test. Also many of us believed there is no God and there is no significant purpose of human life and we should make our own decisions. Especially existentialists thought that way. According to Sartre we are strangers in this world. We live in nausea because we are condemned to freedom in this meaningless world. And we don´t have any purpose. Camus calls this situation absurdity. According to him we live knowing we will vanish one day and trying to live like this is absurd. And only rational thing we can do is to revolt against life.   Some of us thought we have power to change the meaningless to significant and built utopias. For example Nietzsche always criticized people living like sheep. And he hated priests for running the morals upside down and changing them in favor of weak. According to him only powerful people should decide what is right or wrong. He always dreamed a world ruled by super humans. Or we can say super bullies. But Nietzsche was very different from this super human he imagined. He was a very sick person both physically and mentally. He was nearly blind. He was an intellectual rather than a warrior. And his ideas in his works contradicted one another many times. His ideas and actions also contradicted one another. While he was defending the right of powerful to do anything he wants in his works, he hugged crying the neck of a horse beaten by his owner. He tried to make human life significant but he even failed to make his life so. If we think clearly we can see only a god´s existence can make our lives significant. It is not important whether a god exists or not. We need one. Knowing this, people created many gods. And these gods gave them a higher purpose. It is to improve themselves, to become a righteous person and win their approval. They also promised them endless lives and eternal justice. And believing these made people happy. It is not important they are true or not. Only important thing is having a higher purpose than procreating. So we can´t blame people who believe a god for being weak or irrational. It is a very rational thing to consider our lives more valuable than animals´ lives and it is not a weakness not to accept death. It is nearly an instinct and most natural thing to do, defending our existence against it both mentally and physically. Edited (11/22/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: please translat to English

4131.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Nov 2010 Thu 10:54 pm  Yarın ızmir e gidebilirim dönüşte adaya gelirim gidersem görüşürüz haber veririm Quoting deli      I can go to Izmir tomorrow.  I´ll come to the island when i return. If I go we can meet. I let you know   not sure because of no punctuation

Thread: ett please

4132.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Nov 2010 Thu 10:47 pm   Quoting angel-frier Burada olmaktan utanıyor musun ? Niçin evin etrafına / yakınına gelmiyorsun / gitmiyorsun ?   I hope i was usefull enough for you!!!     Edited (11/18/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: translation into english please....

4133.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Nov 2010 Thu 10:45 pm   Quoting AlphaF     To be able to understand this, one has to be familiar with the Turkish saying "Cennet annelerin ayaklari altindadir" which means heaven is under mothers´ feet. This Turkish saying is meant to elevate all mothers and to imply their heavenly status. Now the sentence to be translated, I have sinned a great deal, I am scared....Take me under your feet, mother ! I want to go to heaven.        "Heaven is under mothers´s feet" is a hadith. Hadith means the Prophet Muhammad´s sayings/deeds. Sooree liked this message

Thread: please translat to English

4134.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Nov 2010 Thu 10:40 pm   Quoting deli    The first day of bayram you spent with me and my family you didnt leave me alone. My mum and brothers liked ./loved you very much, they said a talented child of  very high quality , I was also proud  senin gibi bir hevalım olduğu için çok kıymetli hevalım amedlimQuote???????    my try  Good translation I think heval is a kurdish word I dont know what it means.

Thread: Saadi

4135.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Nov 2010 Thu 10:37 pm Saadi was an important Persian poet and a sufi (mystic) who lived in Persia in 13. century. His well known works are Bostan (The Orchard) and Gulistan (The Rose Garden). Many figurative stories were told by him about Islamic and universal virtues in his works. These two works of him were taught as lessons in the schools of Ottoman Empire for many centuries.  U.S. President Barack Obama quoted Saadi´s Gulistan in a videotaped Nowruz (New Year´s) greeting to the Iranian people in March 2009: "There are those who insist that we be defined by our differences. But let us remember the words that were written by the poet Saadi, so many years ago: ´The children of Adam are limbs to each other, having been created of one essence.(1) Here are some verses of him translated by me: How can he know; he doesn´t ask? He would know if he asked. How can he ask; he doesn´t know? He would ask if he knew. I don´t say you not to sail to the sea, "If you will sail, bear even the flood" I say. The origin of men is one (same), It is the mutual foundation layed in creation. It is enough for one of us to feel pain, That pain is all of us. If you look at without love even Joseph(2) is ugly. If you look at Devil with love you think he is an angel. Heart is more valuable than Kaaba; if Kaaba is a home built by Abraham, heart is a place God looks at. Even ten dervishes fit into one carpet, but two king don´t fit into one palace. Don´t forget the bee which has honey in his mouth has a sting on its tail. (1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saadi_(poet)#His_works (2) A prophet who was famous with his good looking. Edited (11/19/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: trans into eng plz

4136.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Nov 2010 Sat 09:07 pm   Quoting Sooree Thank you  so much ... so which is the final correct sentence ?    Here is your answer: I would want you to lie.

Thread: e-t please

4137.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Nov 2010 Sat 09:00 pm I have booked an apartment for us to stay in for one week, when I come. Let me know that you will definately be there December 27th - January 3rd. It is important Geldiğimde bir appartmanda bir haftalığına kaldığımız için ayrılmıştım. Geldiğimde bir haftalığına kalmak için bir apartman ayırtmıştım.   Aralık 27 Ocak 3 arasinda orada olacağını bana haber ver . O çok onemli     Edited (11/13/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Turkish to English hellp please thanks!

4138.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Nov 2010 Sat 08:52 pm   Quoting tomac My attempt as learner (not sure about it, especially third sentence) :   When I loved you I was bisexual. So much man to not leave you to someone else. So much woman to intentionally wait for you knowing you are with someone else (or maybe to live with someone else?).       Edited (11/13/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: translation into english please!

4139.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Nov 2010 Sat 08:47 pm CEHENNET´TE GUL KOKUSU ALARAK YANMAK ISTERIM   There is a wordplay here. There is not such a word as cehennet. İt is an inauthentic word made of cehennem(hell) and cennet(heaven) words. So cehennet is an imaginary place which has characteristics of hell and heaven. You cant find a rose to smell in hell and you cant burn in heaven. But it seems you can do both in this "cehennet". caliptrix liked this message

Thread: T to E Söyleyemedim pleaaaaaase

4140.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Nov 2010 Sat 08:35 pm please translate it to me Düşlerde sevdim seni söyleyemedim I loved you in my dreams I couldn`t tell you Sessiz öptüm nefesini söyleyemedim I kissed your breath silently I coudn`t tell you Sana ben şiirler sözler büyüttüm I nourished words poems for you Sana ben baharlar yazlar büyüttüm I nourished summers springs for you Sana ben hummalı gizler büyüttüm I nourished fiery secrets for you?? Söyleyemedim I couldn`t tell Şarkılar yazdım sana okuyamadım I couldn`t read songs I wrote for you Hep yanımdaydın oysa dokunamadım You were always at my side yet I couldn`t touch you Sana ben hayaller düşler büyüttüm I nourished dreams images for you Sana ben gözümde yaşlar büyüttüm I nourished tears in my eyes for you Sana ben hummalı aşklar büyüttüm I nourished fiery loves for you Söyleyemedim I couldn`t tell Edited (11/14/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: t to e short

4141.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Nov 2010 Wed 11:20 pm I should have opened my arms,I should have said "don´t go"                                 or I wish I had opened my arms, I wish I had said "don´t go" Zuzu liked this message

Thread: Turkish to english please, thank you!

4142.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Nov 2010 Wed 11:11 pm beddua etmek:   bed means bad dua means prayer etmek: to do   now you can decide the right English equivalent.

Thread: very short translation

4143.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Nov 2010 Wed 03:18 pm Sevgiler Paylasildikca Cogalir , Uzuntuler Paylasiltikca Azalir..   Here is my try: 1)Loves increase as long as they are shared, sorrows decrease as long as  they are shared.                            2) Loves increase,sorrows decrease as long as they are shared. Edited (11/10/2010) by gokuyum Hallederiz and Sooree liked this message

Thread: t to e passage

4144.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Nov 2010 Wed 03:31 am hi can anyone translate this please Fransa´da Bir Gazeteci Victor Hugoya Soru Soruyor; In FRANCE A journalist is asking victor hugo a question“ +1   Eserleriniz ve siz bugüne dek çok olumlu eleştiriler aldınız, çok övüldünüz. Bunlar arasında sizi en çok hangisi hoşnut etti? you and your works of art have up /until this day received positive critizisim and you have had much praise. Amongst them which have pleased you the most +1 Hugo anlatıyor: Hugo explains +1 ´´Karlı bir kış gecesiydi. eş dostla yiyip içmiştik. IT was a winters night , we had drunk and eaten with friends and aquaintances +1 Mesafe kısa diye, evime yaya olarak dönüyordum. I was returning on foot to my house because it was a short distance +1 Fena halde sıkışmıştım. hızlı adımlarla, malikanemin bahçe kapısına vardım.  I felt the need to pee badly quickening my steps I arrived at the garden gate of my countryhome +1 Kapı kilitliydi. Var gücümle uşağıma seslendim: ‘igooooooor!’ defalarca haykırmama karşın igor’un beni duyduğu yoktu The door was locked I called out to my man servant IGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR he didnt hear me in spite of me clling out over and over again +1 . Sidik torbam atlas okyanusu büyüklüğüne ulaşmıştı. the urine in my scrotum had grown to the size of the atlantic ocean -1 altıma kaçırmak üzereydim. I was just about to pee myself +1  Yaşlılık işte anlayın dostlar.. freinds understand this is an age thing....+1  . Çaresiz, bahçe duvarına yanaştım, etrafa bakındım, Desperate I stood next to the to the garden wall, I looked all about +1 görünürde kimse yoktu, there was no one in sight +1  fermuarımı indirdim ve su dökmeye başladım I lowered my zip and started to urinate +1  . Tam o sırada arkamda bir at arabası durdu just then a wagon .horse drawn carrige (a cart) stopped behind me +1 . Hiç kıpırdamadan, without moving at all +1 sessizce işiyordum.  I was peeing silently +1 arabacı nefret dolu bir sesle ‘seni haddini bilmez, the driver with with a voice filled with hate" you arrogant +1 buruşuk Şerefs..zzz adi ! wrinkled dishonorable vulgar o işediğin, sefiller’in yazarı Victor hugo’nun duvarıdır!’ dedi. the wall you pee at is the writer of Miserables Victor Hugo´s wall -1 İşte, hayatımda duyduğum en iltifat dolu söz buydu.” HERE YOU HAVE IT. those words were the best compliment I have heard in my life +1 Victor Hugo , Wikipedia Arşivlerden çeviriler...   Almost perfect.

Thread: turkish - english please :-)

4145.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Nov 2010 Wed 03:16 am   Quoting Hallederiz     Because,  I can´t have time for the person who is in front of me. It doesn´t suit me. If it is being like this, I will always have to lie. This makes you upset.   This was my attempt, waiting for corrections.    correct. but you could use reserve instead of have. Hallederiz liked this message

Thread: phrase translation

4146.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Nov 2010 Wed 03:11 am   Quoting MarioninTurkey      Don´t wait! Tomac is spot on. Don´t just look at the verb, look at the ending on the noun. -i güldürmek: to make someone laugh -e gülmek: to laugh at someone     Sooree liked this message

Thread: The Conference of the Birds

4147.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Nov 2010 Wed 02:37 am Many people know Rumi and his famous work Masnavi. But only a few of them know Farid ud-Din Attar and his masterpiece "The Conference of the Birds" Before Rumi started to write Masnavi, he used this book as a textbook and taught his teachings by giving examples from it. And he was definitely influenced from it while he was writing Masnavi. "The Conference Of the Birds" is a book of poems which tells the journey of thousands of birds to find their king Simurg. But journey was very long and very difficult. And only thirty birds finished it and reached the palace of Simurg. And at the end when they saw Simurg, it was only themselves, what they saw. The whole palace was a mirror. And Simurg was nothing else but them. Simurg also means 30 birds in Farsi language. Rumi also told shortly this journey of birds in his Masnavi. I recommend you to read "The Conference of The Birds" if you liked Masnavi. Edited (11/10/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: long translation

4148.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Nov 2010 Sun 01:02 pm Hey, this is a pretty long translation but can anyone translate this please ... ? SevipTe AqLayanLar´s Photos - oKuduktan sonra çok beqeneceksiniz MuzaFFeR KLS Adam akşamdan kalma büyük bir baş ağrısıyla uyanmış zorlukla gözlerini açarak, y...atağından doğrularak şöyle bir etrafına bakmış komodinin üstünde bir bardak su ve iki aspirin duruyor yatağın ayakucundaki sandalyede elbiseleri ütülenmiş durumda aspirinleri içerken komodindeki not dikkatini çekmiş A man hungover woke with a huge headache opening his eyes with difficulty haphazardly sat up from bed and looked around, on the bedside table there was a glass of water and two aspirin at the foot of the bed his ironed clothes while drinking the aspirin in this state a not on the bedside table caught his attention "sevgilim, günaydın. kahvaltın mutfakta. ben alışverişe gidiyorum. erken dönerim seni seviyorum." Good moring my darling your breakfast is in the kitchen Im going shopping illl be back early I love you kalkıp giyinmiş ve mutfağa gitmiş bakmış oğlu kahvaltı ediyor ve kendi servisi ve gazeteleride masanın üstünde duruyormuş oturmuş, he got up, dressed and went to the kitchen son was making breakfast his own service  and placed the newspapers was on the table, he sat down and kahvaltısına başlamış ve oğluna sormuş "evlat dün gece neler oldu biliyor musun? he started breakfast and asked the boy son do you know what happened last night " oğlu; dün gece sarhoş olarak eve geldiğinde saat üçü geçiyordu. it was gone three when you came home drunk last night önce koridordaki sandalyeyi devirdin ve ardından kustun, first you knocked over the chair in the corridor after that you threw up daha sonrada yüzünü odanın kapısına çarptın ve bir gözün morardı. a little later you bang your face on the door and you had a black eye adam şaşırmış vaziyette: anlayamadım. neden o zaman her şey temiz, kahvaltı hazır ve gazetelerim alınmış? the man in a shocked condition ,I couldnt understand why then is everything tidy breakfast ready and newspapers bought Çocuk:onu mu soruyorsun? what is it you are asking annem seni sürükleyerek yatak odasına götürüp, pantolonunu çıkarmaya çalıştığında; while my mum dragging you to the bedroom, and trying to remove your trousers bayan, beni yanlız bırakın "BEN EVLİ BİR ADAMIM" dedin. leave me alone im a married man you said I had a GO BUT WAIT FOR CORRECTIONS , its not a good translation I know that but I tried, and I know someone will correct it   Pretty good translation bravo Edited (11/7/2010) by gokuyum Sooree liked this message

Thread: translation to english please

4149.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Nov 2010 Sat 09:47 pm   Quoting Sooree lol thanks but it doesnt make sense to me ie the phrase (i think) not the translation !    He/she says to beautify you I added me to you. It is wordplay. It means you are beautiful only when you are mine or when you are with me. Edited (11/6/2010) by gokuyum Sooree liked this message

Thread: T-E very short..

4150.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Nov 2010 Sat 01:07 pm   Quoting harp00n       I´m having a hard times because of stress. My hair turned to white. Exams, people, ETC... If you don´t like it, it´s up to you. Don´t keep in touch with me in these times, ı don´t (want to) hurt you.      Keep in touch seems wrong here. Maybe disturb or criticize is better.

Thread: Heaven And Hell As Symbols

4151.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Nov 2010 Fri 12:01 pm   Quoting lemon There is hell and there is heaven. By saying that these are only symbols you are making God a liar. There has to be separations there, because there is a Judgement Day. Like in courts the judge decides either you go to jail or you are free. The verdicts are true and not symbolic. The Bible says things clearly. However, you are right we arent able to tell how heaven and hell look like. Do not tell lies to yourself. There is an afterlife. Everything will come to an end. You will be judged. Then you will either go to heaven or hell. Do you have your soul saved?    I believe afterlife. And I also believe our obsessions will not let us go until we get rid of our attachment to material things. For example a mingy person who only gives importance to money will be more obsessed when he dies and becomes a soul because he wont have money anymore. This will be his hell until he accept this. As you can see he has to be his own savior if he wants to get out of his hell. He is the one who will judge himself. Because he is also a part of god. Edited (11/5/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Turkish to English

4152.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Nov 2010 Thu 03:29 pm   Quoting MarioninTurkey    When my heart races, I feel light headed and I keep thinking and saying "I want him/her" is that love? If the other person doesn´t feel it, doesn´t care about it, or gets emotional and hides his/her feelings, then to say what you feel any more .... (last sentence is incomplete ...?)

Thread: T to E

4153.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Nov 2010 Thu 03:21 pm   Quoting zeytinne Can we say : "meğer burada yalnızmışım" ?    You can say so.

Thread: short t to e

4154.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Nov 2010 Thu 03:19 pm   Quoting MarioninTurkey      If you are so blind not to see the one who loves you; s/he is so proud s/he will not tell you s/he loves you     Sooree liked this message

Thread: Heaven And Hell As Symbols

4155.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Nov 2010 Thu 10:26 am As you know holly books use symbolism to express some abstract concepts to be understood easily by ordinary people. So they objectify these concepts and make them more understandable. For example in the bible sometimes stars represent those who radiate light, spiritual instruction(1) and sea represents restless masses of society, usually unruly and lawless.(2) Main question here is heaven and hell are also symbols or real places? Let´s see what two most well known İslamic scholar say about this matter. İbn Sina (980-1037) who is known as Avicenna in the west tells(in his work "eş-Şifa") that human mind is not fully capable of understanding some abstract concepts and sometimes it needs concrete examples to fully comprehend them. He tells heaven and hell are symbols and there are not a garden-shaped heaven and a hell consists of fire.(3) İbn Tufail(1105-1185) tells (in his philosophical novel "Hayy Ibn Yaqzan") that considering symbols same with symbolized things can confuse and misguide us. He tells, divine substances are beyond objects and they have no relations with them. They can only be described symbolically. So hell and heaven are only symbols. If they are symbols what they mean? I think hell is a cage(metaphorically) which a person puts himself/herself in because of his/her blindly attachment to material things and heaven is a situation of a person freed himself/herself from this attachment. (1) http://www.revelation-today.com/A1Bible%20Symbols.htm#Stars (2) http://www.revelation-today.com/A1Bible%20Symbols.htm#Sea (3) Dodurgalı, Abdurrahman, İbn Sina Felsefesinde Eğitim, İstanbul 1995, p. 181

Thread: trans > e

4156.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Nov 2010 Thu 12:34 am   Quoting Sooree can anyone translate this please:   İnsana yapılacak en büyük kötülük, onu bir umudun içine hapsetmektir...        The biggest evil (thing) can be done to a person is to imprison him/her in a hope. Edited (11/4/2010) by gokuyum Sooree and Noura Çelik liked this message

Thread: E-T please

4157.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Nov 2010 Wed 10:32 am   Quoting zeytinne How can you say in Turkish: no news is good news   Thank you   1)Hiçbir haber iyi haber değildir.(definition) 2)Hiçbir haber iyi değil. (situation)

Thread: very short e-t

4158.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Nov 2010 Tue 03:32 pm   Quoting mltm   Why do you translate it as if it were "you can call many girls as "hayatım"?   it should be "Birçok kıza hayatım diye hitap ediyorsun." or "Birçok kıza hayatım diyorsun"      Because of old age.

Thread: small 2 sentence trnsltn T-E

4159.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Nov 2010 Tue 03:24 pm vazgeçmemizi mi istiyorsun? vazgeçmemizi istiyor musun? Both correct. Emphasises are different. Sonbahar liked this message

Thread: Osman Şahin

4160.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Nov 2010 Tue 03:01 pm Today I read Osman Şahin´s "Mahşer(Last Judgement)." It is a story book. There are two short and one long story that includes 8 sub-stories. When you look at the stories in general, you see a smooth and fabulous telling with great pastoral images. The long story(Last Judgement) that gave its name to book is reminding me "One Thousand And One Nights" tales. In this story the teller whose name is Huma was stuck in a cave with his dead husband and three bandits and she told folk tales to distract them because she could get raped. Each tale she told was about one famous bandit. She told the tales without knowing they belong to those bandits. Bandits were surprised. They thought that Huma was some kind of a mysterious woman maybe even a witch. And they left the cave without touching her. The interesting thing is each blood-thirsty bandit had a tragic life that turned them into monsters. While Huma was telling their stories, they faced with their pasts and relived them. This was like a catharsis. As a reader I felt their sorrows. As I mentioned before the telling is both "fabulous" as metaphorical and literal. It was a long time since I have read such great stories. The author has also a story book which contains 13 chosen stories of him translated into English. The title of the book is "Tales From The Taurus" You can get it if you want. Have a nice day. Note: Huma is also name of a legendary bird.

Thread: a poem translation T-E thx!!!

4161.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Nov 2010 Mon 01:05 pm   Quoting insallah   Quoting smaragda whoever has little time to translate,thanks  : Hayat yıprattı beni Bir çare arıyorum. Kurtuluş nerde diye herkese soruyorum. Bir gün yüzüm güler mi onu da bilmiyorum. Sabırla beklemekten başka çarem kalmadı. Life has worn me out I am searching for a solution / cure Where is lliberation  I am asking to everyone Will my face smile one day , I also don´t know There was no other solution that to wait with patience     My try and only on the first bit for now... wait for corrections

Thread: t - e please ?

4162.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Nov 2010 Mon 12:50 pm   Quoting sonunda  Kimi güzelim der sevdiğine, kimi özelim.. ama sevgi ne güzellik ister, ne de özellik.. Sevgi, sadece yürek ister !   Some say to the person that they love my beauty,some my personality special.....but love desires neither beauty nor specialness....Love just wants the heart.   My try     Edited (11/1/2010) by gokuyum Sooree liked this message

Thread: tiny t to e!

4163.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Nov 2010 Mon 12:44 pm   Quoting Sonbahar Merhaba Sonunda, Benim denememi düzelttiğin için çok teşekkür ederim!  "From now on, neither will i wait for you to come back, nor will i come to you. Somehow i did not lose anything. It´s you that have chosen to be without me."       Sonbahar and Sooree liked this message

Thread: E to T

4164.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Oct 2010 Sat 06:03 pm   Quoting Mysty There is a small youth club over there, please go there , thanks.    Orada küçük bir gençlik klübü var lütfen oraya git. Teşekkürler. aLma_BoSNa liked this message

Thread: T-E short.. plz

4165.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Oct 2010 Sat 06:02 pm   Quoting deli duzelttigin için teşşekür ederim Gokuyumçevrimiçi öğretmenim gibi görünüyorsun        Hehe. You are welcome.

Thread: T-E short.. plz

4166.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Oct 2010 Sat 12:24 pm 1. neyi dinliyorsun.? you are listening well??? What are you listening? 2. ya da ne duymak istiyorsun ? or what is it you want to hear? +1 3. onu söylersen bana ben de sana ona göre birşeyler söyleyeyim If you tell me it, I shall tell you somethings according to her /him  it 4. ama bir yandan da kalbin kırılsın hiçbir zaman istemem 5. bu arada. karnımda çok acıktı . yemeğe gideceğim. sürekli olarak esniyorum actually Im hungry, I will go eat, Im constantly yawinng +1 6. kameradan kesin küçük dilim görünüyordur. I was showing my small tongue KESIN? from the camera??? I guess my little tongue is seen for sure from camera. hem zaten ağzım da yoruldu esnemekten anyhow my mouth has become tired from yawning +1 7. neyse. şimdi fazla uzatmak istemiyorum. I don`t want to lie down much now / drag it out too much now???? zaten yorgunsun da . besides you are tired also +1 8. o yüzden sen iyisi mi dinlen. ben de yemeğe gideyim is it good in that case you relax??? You better rest. I shall go eat Edited (10/30/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: t to e

4167.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Oct 2010 Sat 12:15 pm   Quoting deli  aşkım nice mutlu senelere hep mutlu yaşaman dileğiyle seni çok seviyorum umarım şuan mutlusundur ve eğleniyorsundur özür dilerim bugün eve geç geldim fakat bugün hep aklımdaydın    many happy returns my love; with this the wish that you live happy always ,I love you and I hope you are happy and enjoying yourself at the moment. Im sorry I got home late  today  but you were always on my mind  today my try    great

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4168.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Oct 2010 Sat 12:11 pm   Quoting Henry   My attempt as a learner En çok sevilen sevdiğim öğretmenim!! Çok teşekkür ederim Şimdiden seni ve derslerini özlüyorum. Brezilya´dan selamlar.       Henry liked this message

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4169.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Oct 2010 Sat 12:09 pm   Quoting ayse-eski ne kadar lanet birşey şimdi çok ihjtiyaç duyuyorum      It is such a damn thing. I need it now so much. mltm liked this message

Thread: Edip Cansever

4170.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Oct 2010 Fri 11:18 pm I think this is his most well known poem.

Thread: Edip Cansever

4171.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Oct 2010 Fri 08:38 pm Edip Cansever was an important Turkish poet. He was accepted as a founder of Second New Movement in Turkish poetry. If we want to describe the characteristics of this movement; it attaches importance to imagination and affectivity in poetry, it wants to destroy the traditional form of it, it tells the loneliness and foreignness of the person in modern and capitalist world and his/her distresses.(1) Edip Cansever never accepted Second New as a homogeneous movement and he never accepted that he is one of the founders of this movement. According to him other poets who were included to this movement had different ideas about poetry. Edip Cansever told that he wanted to create a reasoning poetry. He was against to absurdity and word plays as a purpose in poetry. The characters in his poems are generally antiheroes who live on the edges. They are stranger to themselves and to the world. They live in a deep depression. And they seek the comfort in gambling and alcohol. You cant find any lyricism easily in his poems. He mentioned that he had no job with it. He was a brilliant observer. He used every beautiful, important or interesting things that his eyes caught in his poems. We can say his poetry is a sole look to human and to the world. He minded tragedy. And he used some elements of it in his poetry. You can find many long poems of him including these elements. I read two poetry books of him. One is "Ben Ruhi Bey Nasılım(I am Mr Ruhi How Am I?" and second is "Bezik Oynayan Kadınlar(Women Playing Bezik)" Then I wondered if there are any books of him translated to English and I found this book: "Dirty August" There are some poems of him translated to English in this book. I haven´t read it yet. But I read Edip Cansever´s poems. And I am sure you will not be disappointed when you meet this poet through his poems.   (1) http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/İkinci_Yeni Edited (10/30/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Chingiz Aitmatov

4172.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Oct 2010 Fri 04:47 pm   Quoting lemon A brilliant mind, probably never to be repeated. I read only one of his books "Plaha". Thank you for your post, gokum.    I read nearly all of his works and I am preparing a thesis about him. Edited (10/29/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Eng - Tur please

4173.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Oct 2010 Fri 04:34 pm   Quoting deli      could I  say  bekleYemiyorum aswell?    "Seni görmek için bekleyemiyorum" It is weird. Use "sabırsızlanıyorum" instead of "bekleyemiyorum"

Thread: very short e-t

4174.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Oct 2010 Fri 04:29 pm   Quoting Sonbahar Birçok kızlara kıza ´Hayatım´ diyorsun diyebilirsin. My try...    My translation : Birçok kızı hayatım diye çağırıyorsun. Edited (10/29/2010) by gokuyum Edited (11/2/2010) by gokuyum

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4175.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Oct 2010 Fri 04:27 pm   Quoting deli      senin mesajlarin yüzümde  bir gülümseme bırakır     my try but im not sure    Your translation is correct. But generally we use present continous tense instead of simple present tense.So "Senin mesajların yüzümde bir gülümseme bırakıyor" is better. Noura Çelik and deli liked this message

Thread: Eng - Tur please

4176.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Oct 2010 Fri 09:37 am   Quoting deli    birkaç dakkika içinde ucagayı uçağa bineceğim. Turkiyede Türkiyeye gelince sana haber vereceğim. seni görmeye görmek için sabırsızlanıyorum/beklemiyorum sadece az önce/şimdi indirdim  indim????????   birkaç saate görüsürüz my try but its late and Im tired      deli liked this message

Thread: Tr to En please

4177.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Oct 2010 Thu 10:10 pm   Quoting Lady_A   Thanks to the one who helps   Umarim tekrar bir araya geliriz benimde en az senin kadar seni görmeyi isterim umit ederim.  I hope we can meet again I want and hope to see you as much as you want.   Edited (10/28/2010) by gokuyum Lady_A liked this message

Thread: tr to english please

4178.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Oct 2010 Thu 05:46 pm or you misread "şef" as "jet"   we can´t meet chief (means friend in street language)

Thread: Chingiz Aitmatov

4179.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Oct 2010 Thu 03:49 pm Chingiz Aitmatov was an author who told the stories of ordinary people who lived in the Soviet Union. Some of these people embraced the socialism idea and struggled to make it prosper. But they were crushed under the cruel and inhuman politics of Stalin which saw human as an object, as a number. Some of them were accused of being traitors because they dared to criticize these politics. While Soviet revolution was crushing and destroying its own children, a new generation who was a stranger to itself, its nation and its culture was raised in Soviet boarding schools. A generation who had no respect to the nature, human and any culture. The struggles between man and man, man and nature were often told in Aitmatov´s novels. Despite all disappointments he experienced, he still wanted to trust people. He didn´t want to lose the belief of a world which is peaceful and full of hope created by us. There are two novels of this great author of Kirghizes translated to English. One of them is his masterpiece "The Day Lasts More Than A Hundred Year" and other is a simple but touchy love story of him "Jamillia." I recommend you to read them. Edited (10/28/2010) by gokuyum Edited (10/28/2010) by gokuyum Edited (10/29/2010) by gokuyum lemon liked this message

Thread: About Armenian Issue

4180.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Oct 2010 Wed 04:06 pm She is a great and brave journalist. The Turkish title of the book is "Ağrı´nın Derinliği".

Thread: About Armenian Issue

4181.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Oct 2010 Wed 10:02 am Here is a a speech of Ece Temelkuran (a Turkish journalist) on her book Deep Mountain which is about Armenian Issue   http://www.umich.edu/~iinet/media3/asp/10-11/temelkuran_20100927/

Thread: eng to turk please

4182.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Oct 2010 Wed 08:08 am   Quoting zeytinne      Bana boş bir mesaj attın ( or you can use atmışın atmışsın)     zeytinne liked this message

Thread: Please translate this

4183.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Oct 2010 Mon 09:58 am "World War 3 will be fought with sticks and stones" 1)Üçüncü dünya savaşı sopalar ve taşlarla yapılacak. 2)Üçüncü dünya savaşı sopalar ve taşlarla savaşılacak (literal but weird in Turkish)   We dont say "to fight a war" in Turkish. It is weird. We say "to make a war"   Edited (10/25/2010) by gokuyum Edited (10/25/2010) by gokuyum passer-by and Henry liked this message

Thread: Which famous Romanians do you know?

4184.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Oct 2010 Mon 09:00 am Welcome back Hagi

Thread: Hay Bin Yakzan

4185.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Oct 2010 Fri 12:00 pm I want to talk about a novel i read today. This novel is the first philosophical novel that has been ever known. It´s name is Hay Bin Yakzan. It was written by Ibn Tufeyl who was a very famous Arabic scholar of his time in 12. century. The theme of the novel is knowing effort of a man (who was grown up by a gazelle in a desolate island) himself and other creatures by observing environment,recognizing the difference of himself than other creatures, discovering the reason of this difference (because he has a different self) and at the end understanding the existence of a creator who created him and other creatures. The perfect life of Hay Bin Yakzan (who perfected his understanding by mystic experiences) was disturbed by coming of a person named Absal to the island. Absal was a person who was sick of other people´s ignorance and for this reason he came to this neighbor island for meditation. He taught Hay Bin Yakzan how to talk and he benefited from Yakzan´s knowledge about God.Hay bin Yakzan wanted to share his knowledge with other people and convinced Absal to return to neighbor island together. At first he drew attention of people, they gathered around him to listen. But the teachings that Yakzan teaching were very different what they had known until that day.In time they started to get angry to Yakzan. He was also aware of this situation. He witnessed the ignorance of people and their unwillingness of listening and learning new things. At the end he returned to desolate island with Absal and they lived their life by meditating. Now the situation is also same. It was like this before and maybe it will in the future.When we look at the history, we see lots of people who were killed by other people because of telling new or different things.Socrates, Jesus, Giordino Bruno are only a few of them. Also many people faced with death risk;for example Aristoteles, Mohammed, Galileo. What is the reason of this intolerance? Why do most of people prefer to silence instead of listening? Can this behavior change in the future? Edited (10/22/2010) by gokuyum Sonbahar liked this message

Thread: Fears/phobias?

4186.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Oct 2010 Wed 02:53 am   Quoting mltm   I have this similar feeling from time to time as well. But hopefully it does not happen that often and I can manage it. i am as well afraid of doing weird things like you said jumping down while I am at a high place, when with a person on an official level slapping or insulting that person, or screaming in a public official place, hurting/killing my pet even if i do not want all these at all and I am not a violent person. other than this what I feel more often, I am afraid of the suffer that I will have to go through when I´ll lose my loved ones. sometimes i try to suffer now imagining the moment believing that it will lessen the suffer I´ll go through when it really happens. i can understand you even if these do not affect my life a lot.      It is good to know i am not the only one dealing with these issues. I salute you.

Thread: T-E may last part...pls if anyone has the time to give me. many thanks

4187.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Oct 2010 Tue 10:54 pm   Sen uykudayken odana bir girebilsem, usulca sokulup yanında bir yatabilsem, bir daha uyanmadan koynunda öylece sonsuz bir uykuya bir dalabilsem. Bir gün çekip gidersen yaşar mıyım bilemiyorum. Quoting deli      If I can /could once enter your room whilst /when you are sleeping, if I can/could once  lie down slowly squeezing next to you, If I can/could  once fall into an endless sleep in this like that  on your  breast without waking again.  Im  not able to  know would will I live if you were are to up and go one day   my try but wait for corrections

Thread: T-E may last part...pls if anyone has the time to give me. many thanks

4188.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Oct 2010 Tue 10:51 pm             Edited (10/19/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: t to e ! someone saying something weird?

4189.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Oct 2010 Tue 10:49 pm   Quoting deli      ghost? soul is like trust it dosent return  anymore / again to the place it left   my try but wait for corrections     Sooree liked this message

Thread: T-E may last part...pls if anyone has the time to give me. many thanks

4190.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Oct 2010 Tue 09:20 pm   Quoting Nile69 So sorry for all the spelling mistakes, but it was really hard for me to read the writing.     Sen uykuduyken o dona birgirebilsem, usalca sokulup yaninda bir yata bilsem, birdaha uyanmodun aynunda aylece sonsuz bir uykuyabir dela bilsem, bir gun celip gidersen yasarmiyim bilemiyorum    Sen uykudayken odana bir girebilsem, usulca sokulup yanında bir yatabilsem, bir daha uyanmadan koynunda öylece sonsuz bir uykuya bir dalabilsem. Bir gün çekip gidersen yaşar mıyım bilemiyorum.

Thread: E - T - Long Love Letter...Please help!

4191.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Oct 2010 Tue 07:47 pm Bu gece derin uykumdan uyanıp seni düşünürken buldum kendimi.Bir süre öyle uzanıp seni düşündüm.Bu mektubu kafamda oluşturdum.Yazsam mı yazmasam mı diye düşündüm.Duygularımı senle paylaşsam mı diye.Arkadaşlarım aşka dair boyuna tavsiyede bulunuyorlar...İpe sapa gelmez tavsiyelerde.Bana,aşkın ne olduğu hakkında, nasıl aşık olacağıma ve birisini kendime aşık etmek için nasıl olmam gerektiği hakkında tavsiyelerde bulunuyorlar.Ama hepsi saçma sapan.Aşk başka bir kalple oynayarak başlamaz. Sevgiliye söylenen yalanlardan da ...Ne güzellikten ne de zekadan başlar...Aşk bir şeye bağlı olarak gerçekleşmez....Aşk gerçekleşir çünkü ...Bilmiyorum! Aşk, aşktır işte. Yani kalbimi dinliyorum, kâinatı dinliyorum ve onların bana söylediklerini yazıyorum. Duyguları hakkında kolayca yalan söyleyenlerden biri değilim. Eğer beni şahsen tanısaydın bunu bilirdin. Görmek isteyen herkes bunu görür yüzümde baktığında. Ancak internet birbirimizi "görebilme" yetilerimizi sınırlıyor. Bu web kamerasıyla da olsa böyle. Bu nedenle yazıyorum ... ve beni anlayacağını biliyorum. Bana benzediğini hissediyorum. Hayatın tuhaf olduğunu, önceden bilinemediğini, bizim anlamadığımız bir dünya şeyle dolu olduğunu biliyorsun. İnsanları olduğu gibi kabul ederiz. Onları dinlemeye ve onlara karşı açık olmaya çalışırız. Yani, seninle konuşurken biraz çekiniyorum. Dürüst olacağım ve kalpten konuşacağım ki sen de niçin seninle tanışmamın benim için bu kadar önemli olduğunu ve niçin seni bulmakla hayatımın değiştiğini anlayacaksın :} Seninle tanışmak istememin birçok nedeni var. Seni ilk gördüğümde...Sanki senden önceki tüm hayatımda fişi çekilmiş halde yaşamışım gibi geldi. Sanki çok düşük şarzda çalışıyormuşum gibi. Fakat bunu bilmiyordum. Normal geliyordu bana. Ama sonra senin yüzünü gördüm, gülümseyişini ve işte o anda sanki birisi kablomu var olan en yüksek enerji kaynağına bağlamış gibi hissettim... Sanki güneş içimdeydi. Yanıp tutuşacak gibiydim. Kalbim göğsümden fırlayacak gibiydi. Yaşadığımı hissettim. Başından beri yaşıyor olduğumu anladım ... O ana kadar nerede olduklarını bilmediğim duygularımı uyandırdın içimde. Açıklaması güç olan duygular. Ama denemek istiyorum ... Sana, uzun zaman önce seni daha önce tanıdığımı hissettiğimi söylediğim zamanı hatırla. Bu sana olan hislerimden biriydi.Anidendi. Seni birden hep tanıdığımı hissettim. Sen sanki hep özlediğim birşeymişsin; seni görene dek bunu kavrayamadım.Bu benim için çok garipti. Sen bir yabancıydın. Hala da bir bakıma öylesin. Sanki iyi bildiğim ve sevdiğim uzun zamandır kayıp bir arkadaşmışsınca sana çekildim. Sanki Tanrı çevrende başının üstünde "Bu. İşte bu. Bak" diyen bir baloncuk içinde seni gösteren bir okla bir çember çizmişti. Senden gözlerimi alamıyorum. Sen oradayken senden başka hiçbir şey göremiyorum. Sen benim önümdeyken herkes varlığını yitiriyor ve ancak sen yokken zorlukla varlıklarını geri kazanıyorlar. Sen güneş gibisin. Ne zaman dışarıda parlasan gökteki diğer bütün yıldızları gölgede bırakıyorsun, gittiğin zaman bile aslında gitmemiş oluyorsun. Hala içimi ısıtmak için oradasın ve ayı parıldatıyorsun. Belki de bu duygularımı anlatmak için aptalca romantik bir yol ama tamamen doğru. Seninle tanıştığımdan beri yolum belirtilerle aydınlandı. Belirtilere inanır mısın? Ben inanırım. Tanrının ve evrenin ilerlememize yardım etmek için bazı şeyleri önümüze koyduğuna inanırım. Dilediği yolda gitmemize yardım ve kılavuzluk etmek için.Önüme Türkiye´yi ve seni işaret eden milyonlarcasını döktü. Benim için bazen onlara inanmak, onları izlemek zor ama yapıyorum. Hayatımdaki ve geçmişimdeki herşey şimdiye bağlı. Üzerinde olduğum yol beni hep Türkiye´ye götürüyormuş, şimdiye kadar bilmiyordum. Orayı işaret eden hatırlayabildiğim her şeyi yazıya döksem bana gülerdin. Birçok var...büyük, küçük, aptalca, komik ve tamamen akıldışı aman tanrım denilebilecekler. Onlar o kadar rastlantıdışı ki başım döüyor. Evrenin güzelliği ve uyumu beni büyülüyor. Onu kucaklayacak, hissedecek ve nereye götürürlerse götürsünler hayallerimi izleyeceğim. Ne kadar kalbimin kırılma riski olsa da. Facebook´ta bunu çok iyi dile getiren bir alıntım var - " Kalbine de ki, acı çekmekten korkmak acı çekmenin kendisinden daha beterdir.Ve de ki, hiç bir kalp düşlerinin peşinden koşarken acı çekmez çünkü bunu yaptığı her saniyede Tanrıyla ve sonsuzlukla karşılaşır." (henüz okumadıysan Simyacı adlı kitabı oku ....Kısa bir kitap ama ondan çok şey öğreneceksin ) Üzerimde yaptığın bir diğer etki de kendime dikkate etmemi sağlaman. Sendeki bir şey, bana hissettirdiklerin önemli olduğumu hatırlattı bana. Zaman kaybı değildim. Ara sıra yaşamıma özen göstermek gerek. Kendime zaman ayırmak ve hakikaten mutlu olmak. Dışları çıkıp aşkı aramak. Hatta yediklerime dikkat etmek ve fiziksel olarak olarak kendime çeki düzen vermek (seninle tanıştığımdan bu yana 11 kg verdim). Bana birşeylere değdiğim hissini verdin. Sevilmeye ve mutlu olmaya layık olduğum hissini. Bir ilişkimin olmayışı beni mutsuz kılıyor. Gidip gerçek aşkı bulmak. Orada beni bekliyor. Tek yapmam gereken onu bulmak. Seni niye bu kadar çok istediğimi birçok kere sordun. Niçin seni sevdiğimi. Güzel ve seksi olduğun için diyebilirdim. Veya zeki ve komik olduğun için. Ama sebep bu değil. Bir çok erkek zaten öyle. Ve ben onlardan birine aşık değilim. Sana niçin aşık olduğumu anlatamam. Niçinini bilmiyorum. Sadece aşığım işte. Sana aşık olmam için bir şey yapmadın. Diğer erkeklerin yaptığı gibi kalbimi kazanmaya çalışmadın. Seni istemem ve sana aşık olmam için bana yalanlar söylemedin. Olduğun gibiydin. Seni niçin seviyorum... bunun nedenini bilmiyorum. Ama seni sevdiğim için çok mutluyum. Böyle aşık olabileceğimi hiç düşünmemiştim. Daha önce de aşık olduğumu sandığım olmuştu ama bu duyguyla karşılaştırıldığında hepsi boş kum tanecikleri gibi kalıyorlar. Bana gerçek aşkın bencil olmadığını öğrettin. Bir şey talep etmediğini öğrettin. Ama aşığın kendisini daha güçlü, mutlu ve canlı hissetmesini sağladığını.Sana baktığımda, kalbimin nelere muktedir olduğunu, ne çok sevebileceğini bildiğimden her şeyi yapabilecekmişim gibi geliyor bana. Aşkıma karşılık vermesen de olur. Verirsen harika olur...elbette! Ama beni hiç sevmesen de, hep "sadece arkadaş" kalsak da olur. Tüm istediğim senin mutlu olman. Hep gülümsemeni ve hayattan keyif almanı istiyorum. Oysa hep hüzünlü duruyorsun...Keşke sana kalbimi açabilsem ve bana verdiğin bu duyguyu, bu enerjiyi ben de sana verebilseydim. Onu senle paylaşabilseyeydim. Seninle karşılaştığımda bunu yapabilmeyi ümit ediyorum. Bu duyguyu senle paylaşmayı. Sadece bende kalmayacak kadar güzel bir duygu. Hayatın müthiş ve harika bir şey olduğunu hissetmeni, dışarı çıkıp eğlenmeni ve düşlerinin peşinden gitmeni istiyorum. Tekrar söylemek istiyorum, seni yatağa atmak gibi bir niyetim yok. İkimizde bu konu hakkında söylemek istediğimiz ve istemediğimiz şeyler söyledik. Ama biliyoruz ki yapmamız iyi olmaz. İkimizin de bir gecelik ilişkiden fazlasına ihtiyacı var. İkimiz de aynı şeyin peşindeyiz. Aşk! Seks ve aşk birlikte gitmeli. Sex aşk olmadan sadece bir dakikalığına eğlenceli. Ama hayat bir dakikadan çok daha uzun.Onu herhangi birisiyle  istemiyorum. Beni seven birisini istiyorum, yalnızca beni. Bana sadık birini. Her kendisinden hoşlanan kızla yatan birini değil. Ve gereçek aşk için beklemek senin için önemli, böylece hiçbir zaman seni doğru yoldan ayırmaya da çalışmazdım. Biliyorum ki birbirimize bazı şeyler dedik...ama o sözleri gerçekte kastetmedik.Senden ne kadar hoşlandığımı biliyorsun. Aşk gözlüğü seni benim için dünyadaki en çekici adam yaptı. Ama hayatta bundan çok daha önemli şeyler var. O parçamı şimdilik kimseye vermek istemiyorum. Birisi beni gerçekten sevdiğinde...şey o zaman başka. Sadece başka bir şey yapmak isteseydin....elele tutuşmak (Eğer kalabalık bir ortamdaysak bunun için ısrar edeceğimi sana daha önce söyledim. Ayrı düşmekten korkuyorum...özellikle iyi bilmediğim bir yerde) veya belki bir öpücük. Sanırım bu benim için sorun olmazdı. Ama herşey sana bağlı. Seni basit ziyaretler,birlikte konuşmak ve gülmek haricinde hiçbir şeye zorlamayacağım. Evet...Seninle yüzyüze konuşmak benim için önemli. Seni karşımda görmek istiyorum. Benim için her şeyi değiştiren adamı görmek. Ama o denemedi bile. Kollarımı sana dolamak ve şimdiye kadar deneyimlediğin en büyük ve sıcak kucaklamayı sana vermek, sana seni sevdiğimi söylemek istiyorum. Bence sen kesinlikle harikasın ve varolduğun için teşekkürler.   Seninle biraz zaman geçirmek, konuşmak ve seni daha iyi tanımak istiyorum. Fotoğraflarını almak (gerçekten de yeterince güzellerine sahip değilsin) ve sonra seni çizip boyamak istiyorum. Benim ilham perim mi olmak istiyorsun? Ben basit şeyler istiyorum. Sadece biraz zaman. Bir gün (veya tüm beş gün) beni görmeye gel. Birlikte bir yerlere gidebiliriz, keşif yaparken beni güvende tutarsın. Hadi! İstediğini biliyorsun. Hayatın boyunca kaç defa seninle görüşmek için 8000 kilometre seyahat edecek bir kadınla tanışma fırsatına sahip oldun? Bu benim için bir macere ve senin için  de olabilir. Şansını dene ve benimle takıl. En azından çok gülecek ve gösterebileceğin bir çok güzel resme sahip olacaksın. Seni seviyorum, sevgili dostum Musti. Her zaman   I translated it. And i wish you happiness. I have a question. What is "loves glasses"? I couldnt understand it. Is it "love´s glasses or what"? I will translate it if you can help me. Have a nice day. Edited (10/20/2010) by gokuyum jjesejj liked this message

Thread: Fears/phobias?

4192.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Oct 2010 Tue 03:52 am My phobia is a little bit complex. I am afraid of losing my control. It represents itself in many forms. When i am in a balcony, i am afraid of jumping from it. When i am in an exam, i am afraid of tearing my paper, when i am in a bus, i am afraid of screaming, I have lived my life as i am in a nightmare. I am good now but i want to be better. Please pray for me. (My best friends medicines dont know how to pray.)

Thread: Need Turkish to english translation,help please

4193.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Oct 2010 Tue 03:38 am Deli is a great person. She likes helping people. I like helping her. So only thank her. Edited (10/19/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Need Turkish to english translation,help please

4194.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Oct 2010 Tue 01:07 am   Quoting deli  WAITING FOR YOUR CORRECTIONS (did some more    her gelmeyişinde dünyası başına yıkılırdı nedesem bilmiyorum sana nasıl yardımcı olabilirim What if I say I dont know what to say. how I can can i help you? bana söyle yardım edyim msn açabilir facebook , ta var ve bende açıyorum tell me let me help he can open msn ,there is on  also facebook im opening too bakıyorum yabancı kimse yok yani illa birisiyle görüşmesi gerekmiyor kiminle  Im looking there art aren´t any foreigners/strangers, so he dosent need to meet/ chat with anyone görüştügünü ben görüyorum sen rahat ol lütfen bence bu konunun üzerine gitme Im looking at those seeing who you he chats with, in my opinion be calm dont go overboard /over the top in this matter inan kötü bir şey yapmıyor ona güvenmelisin XXX tabiki oda sana believe hes not doing anything bad , you should trust him and xxxxxx to you too

Thread: Need Turkish to english translation,help please

4195.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Oct 2010 Mon 11:49 pm well, since i have my heart on my sleeve, here is the letter thanks to anyone who can help me, i appreciate your time and help, thanks! bu konuyu ben çözemem çözmek isterdim I would like to sort this matter out but I cant ama ilk başta birbirinize güvenmelisiniz but firstly you must trust each other oda nasıl olur bilmem karar senin ne yapmak istersen onu yap biliyorumki XXXXXi çok seviyorsun ama sevgi yetmez ilk başta saygı,güven ,sevgi bu ikinizin arasında olması gerekiyor. You love xxxxx very much but love is not enough, firstly respect trust,affection is needed between both of you in this relationship kadınlar her zaman daha sagdık olurlar erkeklerinine bende bir kadınım bende istemem sevgilim benden habersiz bir msn kullansın Im a women too and I wouldn`t want my love using msn without letting me know ama abimi çok iyi tanıyorum but I know my brother very well seninde tanımam gerekirdi onca sene oldu berabersiniz according to him it you are together roughly a year  Many years passed you are still together belki yüz yüze gelseydiniz herşey daha farklı olurdu .abim hep bir umutla senin maybe everything would have been alot different if you ? /if only you had come/ came face to face abim hep bir umutla senin gelmeni beklerdi her gelmeyişinde dünyası başına yıkılırdı . nedesem bilmiyorum sana nasıl yardımcı olabilirim bana söyle yardım edyim msn açabilir facebook , ta var ve bende açıyorum bakıyorum yabancı kimse yok yani illa birisiyle görüşmesi gerekmiyor kiminle görüştügünü ben görüyorum sen rahat ol lütfen bence bu konunun üzerine gitme inan kötü bir şey yapmıyor ona güvenmelisin XXX tabiki oda sana

Thread: turkish to english plz

4196.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Oct 2010 Mon 11:40 pm AşK´in hiçbir sifata ve tamlamaya ihtiyaci yoktur. Başli ba$ina bir dünyadir aŞk. Ya tam ortasindadir, merkezinde, ya da di$indasindir, hasretinde Quoting tomac My try as learner:   Love does not need an adjective or a noun phrase. Love is a world on its own. And it is you are either exactly in the middle of it, in the center of it(*) or it is outside of it, in the longing.   (*) I suspect there is some word-play here - maybe "merkezi" means here "aşk merkezi", but I dıdn´t found what it can exactly mean. aşkın merkezinde (in the center of love)

Thread: pls from t-e.....many thanks for time and efford....

4197.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Oct 2010 Mon 06:46 pm   Quoting Gülümseme haha ok , got to love the dictionary sometimes   But if we say we became friends..it does not mean we are no longer...we are still friends so the friendship part has not ended. Anyway personal choice   We also use past tense here. But we dont have present perfect tense in Turkish. So i thought if they have this, i should use it. I thought maybe there is a good reason so they use it.

Thread: pls from t-e.....many thanks for time and efford....

4198.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Oct 2010 Mon 06:36 pm   Quoting Gülümseme   Thanks  ........  Bosom friend have we gone back 100 years And the difference between became and have become means what ?    I would say "dear friend". Dictionary tricked me. If we use "became" it means action ended. But it still goes on. So i preferred "have become". Edited (10/18/2010) by gokuyum Edited (10/18/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: pls from t-e.....many thanks for time and efford....

4199.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Oct 2010 Mon 06:30 pm   Quoting Gülümseme  My try on first bit..I added 2nd bit , just one sentence I am unsure of         Sen uykudayken odana bir girebilsem. Başucunda oturup seni seyredebilsem. Sana diyecek o kadar çok sözüm var ki. Hala hiçbirini sana söyleyemiyorum. Uzaktan uzağa hayaller kurarken, sevgimi nasıl anlatsam bilemiyorum. While you are sleeping if I was able to may i enter your room, sit beside you and watch yuy. There are so many words I want to say. But still I can´t say any of them to you . From far away while setting up dreams, I can´t know how I can explain my love Sen bana büyü mü yaptın? Çocuk gibi bağlanmışım ben sana. Uğrunda bu canımı ben feda ederdim. Sen benim günahım oldun. Sen benim sevabım oldun. Sen benim canyoldaşım, sevincim, kederim oldun. Sen benim herşeyim oldun, sonunda esirin oldum. Did you do this magic to me ?(mine: Did you cast a spell on me?) Like a child I became attached to you .Uğrunda bu canımı ben feda ederdim(I would sacrafice my life for you) . You became have become my sin , you became have become my reward, you are have become my traveling bosom companion(or friend) , my delight, my grief , you became have become my everything, at last I became  have become your slave

Thread: pls from t-e.....many thanks for time and efford....

4200.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Oct 2010 Mon 06:22 pm   Quoting deli Sen bana buyama yaptin, Sen bana cocuk gibi bagtanimisim ben sana, ugrunda bu canim, ben fedu ederdim, sen benim gunabim oldun, sen benim sevabim oldun, sen benim conyoldasim, sevincim lederim oldum, sen benim herseyim oldun, sonundu esinin oldum.  You made me grow /grow up.Did  you cast a spell on me?I have become devoted to you like a child, ????? I would sacrifice this life for you, you are have become my sin, you have  become my reason my good deed??????? You have become my bosom friend, my joy, my sorrow.I was delighted, you were have become my everything, I would have eventually been your husband? At the end i have become your captive.   my try but wait for corrections

Thread: pls from t-e.....many thanks for time and efford....

4201.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Oct 2010 Mon 05:59 pm     Sen uykudayken odana bir girebilsem. Başucunda oturup seni seyredebilsem. Sana diyecek o kadar çok sözüm var ki. Hala hiçbirini sana söyleyemiyorum. Uzaktan uzağa hayaller kurarken, sevgimi nasıl anlatsam bilemiyorum.     Sen bana büyü mü yaptın? Çocuk gibi bağlanmışım ben sana. Uğrunda bu canımı ben feda ederdim. Sen benim günahım oldun. Sen benim sevabım oldun. Sen benim canyoldaşım, sevincim, kederim oldun. Sen benim herşeyim oldun, sonunda esirin oldum.   Now you can try to translate it. Edited (10/18/2010) by gokuyum Edited (10/18/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: short Turkish to English please, thanks!

4202.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Oct 2010 Sun 11:45 pm   Quoting Sonbahar Thank you again gokuyum for corrrecting my trial...Your help is so precious!!    You are welcome. You are a great translator.

Thread: short Turkish to English please, thanks!

4203.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Oct 2010 Sun 11:35 pm   Quoting Adam25     Tercümeler için bir Türk kızıdan yardım aldım   a try from another learner - but only one thing I know for sure is that ´türkçe´ is the language but ´türk´ is the nationality.

Thread: short Turkish to English please, thanks!

4204.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Oct 2010 Sun 11:35 pm   Quoting Sonbahar Bir türkçe Türk kızı tercüme için bana yardım etti.   A learner try...

Thread: strange t to e translation?

4205.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Oct 2010 Sun 11:26 pm ´´Kadınların söylemekten bıkmadığı yalanlar´ ´??????????????????????????????????????? lies women dont get bored of saying?????????????? Üç kilo fazlam var, onu da vereyim tamam... I am three kilos too much, it will be ok when I will lose it -Bu pazartes rejime başlıyorum, çok kararlıyım.. .I am definitely starting the diet this saturday Im SO determined - Facebook’umu kapatacağım ama eski arkadaşlarla ancak bu şekilde görüşebiliyorum... I will close my face book but I can meet with old friends like this -Senin annen benim de annem sayılır canım... ????????????????????????????????????????? -Yalanı kesinlikle sevmem. Hayatım boyunca hep dürüstlüğüm yüzünden kaybettim ben.. I most certainly dont like lies.I am always honest ,up front throughout my life and I have lost due to this / on account of this -Bu ay alışveriş yapmayacağım, paramı kenara koyup biriktireceğim. I wont go shopping this month I will put my money aside and I will save it -Bir insanda asla dış görünüşe bakmam. Benim için duygusallık, dürüstlük önemlidir... I never look at the outside appearance in a person, being emotional and honesty is what is important for me -Dizileri takip etmem. Kitap okumayı seviyorum, ona da vakit bulamıyorum... I dont follow the series, I love to read,and and I also can`t find time for it -Hediyeni çok beğendim,... I really liked your present ne zamandır böyle bir şeye ihtiyacım vardı ??????????????????????????????????????? -Bir süre kimseyle beraber olmak istemiyorum... I don`t want to be with someone for a while -Tabii ki konuştuklarımız aramızda kalır, niye birilerine anlatayım ki?... of course the things that we discuss remain between us, why should I discuss with others? -Şu dünyada asla evlenmeyecek biri varsa, o da benim... If there is someone who won`t marry in this world that is me Biriyle evlenecek olsam bu kesin sen olurdun... If I were to marry with someone ,you would be that choice   Great translation. keep going. Edited (10/17/2010) by gokuyum Edited (10/17/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: E - T - Long Love Letter...Please help!

4206.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Oct 2010 Sat 11:07 pm Okay i am starting Bu gece derin uykumdan uyanıp seni düşünürken buldum kendimi.Bir süre öyle uzanıp seni düşündüm.Bu mektubu kafamda oluşturdum.Yazsam mı yazmasam mı diye düşündüm.Duygularımı senle paylaşsam mı diye.Arkadaşlarım aşka dair boyuna tavsiyede bulunuyorlar...İpe sapa gelmez tavsiyelerde.Bana,aşkın ne olduğu hakkında, nasıl aşık olacağıma ve birisini kendime aşık etmek için nasıl olmam gerektiği hakkında tavsiyelerde bulunuyorlar.Ama hepsi saçma sapan.Aşk başka bir kalple oynayarak başlamaz. Sevgiliye söylenen yalanlardan da ...Ne güzellikten ne de zekadan başlar...Aşk bir şeye bağlı olarak gerçekleşmez....Aşk gerçekleşir çünkü ...Bilmiyorum! Aşk, aşktır işte. Yani kalbimi dinliyorum, kâinatı dinliyorum ve onların bana söylediklerini yazıyorum. Duyguları hakkında kolayca yalan söyleyenlerden biri değilim. Eğer beni şahsen tanısaydın bunu bilirdin. Görmek isteyen herkes bunu görür yüzümde baktığında. Ancak internet birbirimizi "görebilme" yetilerimizi sınırlıyor. Bu web kamerasıyla da olsa böyle. Bu nedenle yazıyorum ... ve beni anlayacağını biliyorum. Bana benzediğini hissediyorum. Hayatın tuhaf olduğunu, önceden bilinemediğini, bizim anlamadığımız bir dünya şeyle dolu olduğunu biliyorsun. İnsanları olduğu gibi kabul ederiz. Onları dinlemeye ve onlara karşı açık olmaya çalışırız. Yani, seninle konuşurken biraz çekiniyorum. Dürüst olacağım ve kalpten konuşacağım ki sen de niçin seninle tanışmamın benim için bu kadar önemli olduğunu ve niçin seni bulmakla hayatımın değiştiğini anlayacaksın :} Seninle tanışmak istememin birçok nedeni var. Seni ilk gördüğümde...Sanki senden önceki tüm hayatımda fişi çekilmiş halde yaşamışım gibi geldi. Sanki çok düşük şarzda çalışıyormuşum gibi. Fakat bunu bilmiyordum. Normal geliyordu bana. Ama sonra senin yüzünü gördüm, gülümseyişini ve işte o anda sanki birisi kablomu var olan en yüksek enerji kaynağına bağlamış gibi hissettim... Sanki güneş içimdeydi. Yanıp tutuşacak gibiydim. Kalbim göğsümden fırlayacak gibiydi. Yaşadığımı hissettim. Başından beri yaşıyor olduğumu anladım ... O ana kadar nerede olduklarını bilmediğim duygularımı uyandırdın içimde. Açıklaması güç olan duygular. Ama denemek istiyorum ... Sana, uzun zaman önce seni daha önce tanıdığımı hissettiğimi söylediğim zamanı hatırla. Bu sana olan hislerimden biriydi.Anidendi. Seni birden hep tanıdığımı hissettim. Sen sanki hep özlediğim birşeymişsin seni görene dek bunu kavrayamadım.Bu benim için çok garipti. Sen bir yabancıydın. Hala da bir bakıma öylesin. Sanki iyi bildiğim ve sevdiğim uzun zamandır kayıp bir arkadaşmışsınca sana çekildim. Sanki Tanrı çevrende başının üstünde "Bu. İşte bu. Bak" diyen bir baloncuk içinde seni gösteren bir okla bir çember çizmişti. Senden gözlerimi alamıyorum. Sen oradayken senden başka hiçbir şey göremiyorum. Sen benim önümdeyken herkes varlığını yitiriyor ve ancak sen yokken zorlukla varlıklarını kazanıyorlar. Sen güneş gibisin. Ne zaman dışarıda parlasan gökteki diğer bütün yıldızları gölgede bırakıyorsun, gittiğin zaman bile aslında gitmemiş oluyorsun. Hala içimi ısıtmak için oradasın ve ayı parıldatıyorsun. Belki de bu duygularımı anlatmak için aptalca romantik bir yol ama tamamen doğru. Seninle tanıştığımdan beri yolum belirtilerle aydınlandı. Belirtilere inanır mısın? Ben inanırım. Tanrının ve evrenin ilerlememize yardım etmek için şeyleri önümüze koyduğuna inanırım. Dilediği yolda gitmemize yardım ve kılavuzluk etmek için.Önüme Türkiye´yi ve seni işaret eden milyonlarcasını döktü. Benim için bazen onlara inanmak onları izlemek zor ama yapıyorum. Hayatımdaki ve geçmişimdeki herşey şimdiye bağlı. Üzerinde olduğum yol beni hep Türkiye´ye götürüyormuş, şimdiye kadar bilmiyordum. Orayı işaret eden hatırlayabildiğim her şeyi yazıya döksem bana gülerdin. Birçok var...büyük, küçük, aptalca, komik ve tamamen akıldışı aman tanrım denilebilecekler. Onlar o kadar rastlantıdışı ki başım döüyor. Evrenin güzelliği ve uyumu beni büyülüyor. Onu kucaklayacak, hissedecek ve nereye götürürlerse götürsünler hayallerimi izleyeceğim. Ne kadar kalbimin kırılma riski olsa da. I have a quote on facebook that says it well - "Tell your heart that the fear of suffering is worse than the suffering itself. And that no heart has ever suffered when it goes in search of its dreams, because every second of the search is a second´s encounter with God and eternity." (if you havent, read the Alchemist....its a short book but I think you would get alot out of it) And yet another way you have impacted my life is you made me care about myself. Something about you and how you make me feel reminded me that I am important. Im not a waste of time. Its ok to care and live for me sometimes. To take time and really feel happiness. To go out and look for love. To even eat better and take better care of myself physically (ive lost 11kg since I met you). You made me feel that I am worth something. I deserve to be happy and to be loved. Not to stay in a relationship that makes me miserable. To go and find true love. Its there for me, waiting. I just have to find it! You have asked me many times why I want you so much. Why I love you. I could say its because you are beautiful and sexy. Or that you are smart and funny. But that is not why. Many men are those things. But I love none of them. I cant tell you why I love you. I dont know why. I just do. You didnt do anything to make me love you. You didnt try to win my heart like other men have. You havent lied to me to make me love you, to make me want you. You were just you. Why do I love you.... I dont know the reason. But Im very happy that I do. I never knew I could love this way. I thought I had been in love before, but those loves were barren grains of sand compared to this feeling. Youve taught me that real love isnt selfish. It doesnt want anything. It makes the one lover feel powerful, happy, alive. I look at you and i feel like I can do anything because I know how much my heart can feel. How much good it can do. It doesnt matter if you return my love to me. It would be fantastic....of course! But even if you never love me, if we are only ever ´just friends´ I am ok with that. All I want is for you to be happy. I want to see you smile and have fun and enjoy your life. You seem so melancholy.... I wish I could open my heart and give you this feeling, this energy you give me. To share it with you. I hope that by meeting me that maybe I can do that for you. To share this feeling. Its too good to keep to myself! I want you to feel like life is awesome and wonderful and to go out and laugh and follow your dreams. I also want to say again, I have no intention of trying to bed you. We have both said things about that... that we want to and that we dont. But we know its not good if we do. We both need something more than one night with someone. We are both after the same thing. Love! Sex and love should go together. Sex is fun with out it...for a minute. But life is alot longer than a minute. I do not want that with just anyone. I want someone who loves me, only me. Who is loyal to me. Not someone who beds every girl who likes him... And its important to you to wait for real love, so I would never try to make you stray. I know we said things...but we didnt mean them. You know how attracted I am to you. Loves glasses has made you the most attractive man on the planet to me. But there are more important things than that in life! I do not want to give that part of me to anyone right now. When someone truly loves me.... well, then it is another matter! But if you wanted to do something else... hold hands (I already told you I would insist on that if we were somewhere crowded! I have a fear of being separated...especially somewhere I dont know well) or maybe even a kiss. I think I would be ok with that... But all of that is up to you. I will not press you for anything except simple visiting and talking and laughing together :} So, yea...there are some of the reasons meeting you in person is important to me. I want to have you in front of me. To see this man who has changed everything for me. And he didnt even try! To put my arms around you and give you the biggest, warmest hug you ever got and tell you I love you and I think youre absolutely awesome and thank you for existing :} Id love to spend some time with you, talk to you, know you better. Take pictures of you (you really dont have enough good ones!!) and paint you later... You want to be my muse? :} I want simple things. Just some time. Take a day (or all 5!) to see me. We can go places together, you can keep me safe while we explore. Come on! You know you wanna! How many times in your life will you get the chance to meet a woman who is willing to travel 8000 kilometers to meet you? Its an adventure for me and can be for you, too. Take a chance and hang out with me! At the very least you will smile alot and have some nice pictures of yourself to show for it :} I love you, my dear friend Musty. Always :}   It is your turn again scalpel. You must be declared a saint by Pope just for thinking to translate this long text.But you are counting on the devil.Hold my tail tight Edited (10/16/2010) by gokuyum Edited (10/16/2010) by gokuyum Edited (10/16/2010) by gokuyum Edited (10/17/2010) by gokuyum passer-by and jjesejj liked this message

Thread: T-E plsss

4207.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Oct 2010 Sat 11:01 pm   Quoting tomac My try as learner, with some changes in original text:    -pek de yakşaklı yakışıklı çıkmış gevur gâvur You look He looks very handsome (at this photo), infidel - sevgilim benim ne diyor bu Burak yahu Hey, my love, what does this Burak say? - aplacım ablacığım, kusura bakma ruhum kör düğüm kördüğüm olmuş bende ("ben de" ?) çözemedim daha. Diyorum ki hacım pek yakışıklısın maşşallah gizemde Gizem de çok güzel birbirinizi çok iyi tamamlıyorsunuz diyorum kem gözlerden uzak diyorum =) Excuse me, my little/dear sister, my soul (my psyche?) got tangled. (Even ?) I could not solve this yet. I say that you are very handsome, my pilgrim, wonderful, Gizem is very beatiful too, you complete each other in a very good way, I say "far from evil eye"* =) (´I say "far from evil eye"´ is literal translation, I think he/she means here something like "Let you both be far from evil eye").

Thread: pls translate

4208.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Oct 2010 Sat 10:58 pm   Quoting tomac My try as learner. Unfortunately I don´t feel sure about my translation here, so I think it will be better to wait for comments or translations from other members.   Hi Öner, Merhaba Öner,   About the  disagreement we had a few months back, I would  like to apologise to you. Birkaç ay önceki kavga ettiğimiz anlaşmazlığımız için senden özür dilemek istiyorum.    I regret it and I am sorry. Onun için pişmanım ve üzgünüm.   I have apologised to Tuncay and  I hope  you can accept my apology. Tuncay´dan özür diledim, umarım sen de beni affedersin.(*) (* - I haven´t translated it literally: in place of "I hope you can accept my apology" I wrote "I hope you will forgive me")   Please send my regards to all of your family, I miss them, they made me feel so welcome in Serinyol and I am so glad I met them. Lütfen, benden bütün ailene selam söyle, onları özledim, beni Serinyol´da çok hoş karşıladılar(*) ve onlarla tanıştığımıza çok sevindim. (* - I have also made a change here in order to make it easier for me to translate: instead of "they made me feel so welcome" I tried to write something like "they welcomed me in so nice way") Kiss selimhan and Ilksen from me. Take care Benden Benim için Selimhan´ı ve Ilksen´i öp. Kendine iyi bak.

Thread: translation t to e

4209.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Oct 2010 Fri 01:58 am Sustuğunu bilen olgundur, bildiğini susan değil   a hard one, let me try   The one who knows what he/she keeps silent on is mature, not the one who keeps silent on what he/she knows

Thread: long t` to e` tia

4210.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Oct 2010 Fri 01:42 am   Nasıl icim acıyor anlatamam I cant describe/explain how much I am hurting Seni göremediğim için gözlerime düşman. it is enemy for to my eyes because I cant see you Sesini duymadığımdan bu suskunluğum this is my silence from not hearing your voice/sound (mine: this silence of mine is because of not hearing your voice.) Kokundan mahrumum ya şimdi ben, oh and now I am deprived of your smell arı kadar olup çekemiyorum seni icime. Kafamın icinde bir gri bulut, a grey cloud inside of my head ufleyemiyorum burnumdan. I cant exhale? breath out from my nose Hangi kayığın kuregiyim bilmiyorum ? ama devamlı bir bulantı. but this nausea continues (mine: but always a nausea) Gözümde yas var ama güldüğünü dusundukce aglayamiyorum. there are tears in my eyes but when thinking of your you smile I can`t cry Aklımın her köşesinde kose kapmaca oynuyorsun. you are playing puss in the corner in every corner of my mind Hiç yorulmuyorsun... you never become tired Nasıl icim acıyor bir anlata bilsem; ? geçecek gibi geliyor her şey Akıl veriyolar; yalnız degilsin   it looks like everything will pass they give advice you are not alone, like everything it will pass geçecek diyorlar dinlemiyorum. it will pass they say , i`m not listening yalnız degilsin dendikce daha çok anlıyorum yalnızlığını. when saying you are not alone I understand loneliness more Kendime zarar vermek istiyorum yokluğunda, I want to harm myself when you are a absent varlığınin nedeni oksuyor zarar gormus yerlerimi. Her seye kizabiliyorum I can resent everything ama aklıma seni getirip mutluda olabiliyorum. but I can also be happy when bringing you to my mind Gitmesen hep kalsan yanımda.. .if may you dont not go, if may you always remain/stay with me/at my side Dokunsam sana; if may i touch you anlatsan aklindakileri. if I  may you explain /decsribe/tell the things that are in you.(on your mind) Benim; aslında sen oldugumu anlasan. İcim o kadar çok aciyorki; seni icime bile koymaya kiyamiyorum...

Thread: TRK TO ENGL. - THANK YOU

4211.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Oct 2010 Fri 01:24 am Thank you so much FORUM: aklına gelir ve hiç çıkmazdı sonrasında da gün boyunca.. it comes would come to your mind and it would never leaves leave and later on during the day kahveyi bile onu düşünerek pişirir olurdun, suyun bile tadı aşk kokardı.. you would be cooking coffee even thinking of it her/him, even the water would smell of sweet love gökyüzü başka mavi, yıldızlar başka parlardı.. sonra büyüdük; another blue sky would shine with a different blue  other stars would shine differently : later we grew up aşk masal oldu, masalları küçükken annemiz anlatırdı; it was a love became a fairytale, our mother would tell when we were small masallargüzel biterdi.. büyüyünce anlatanlar değişti dolayısıyla masalların sonuda değişti. fairytales would end beautiful, those who explained had told changed when growing up it therefore also the ending of the fairytales changed Edited (10/15/2010) by gokuyum Edited (10/15/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Turkish to English please

4212.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Oct 2010 Tue 06:39 pm   Quoting Sonbahar Thank you very much for correcting my try gokuyum.    You are welcome. Your Turkish is almost perfect.

Thread: another one just 1 phrase T-E thxxx!!

4213.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Oct 2010 Tue 06:35 pm maybe: Are you doing this to me just for spite?

Thread: suicide translation?

4214.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Oct 2010 Tue 06:28 pm can someone translate this passage for me please ... ? Dünyanın En İlginç İntiharı .. 1998´de bir Fransız oldukca karmaşık bi intihar girişiminde bulundu. Bir deniz kıyısında yüksek bir ......yamacın tepesine çıkıp boynuna bi ip bağladı, ipi de büyük bi kayaya bagladi. Sonra zehir içti ve kendini ateşe verdi. Uçurumdan atlarken de tabancayla kafasına ates etti! Ama devamı daha ...ilginç. Çünkü kurşun onu ıskalayıp ipi kesti, böylece adam suya düştugünde asılı kalmadı.Soğuk su yanan elbiselerini söndürmekle kalmadı aynı zamanda onu şoka sokarak yuttuğu zehri kusmasını sağladı. Sudan bir balikçı tarafından çıkarılıp hastahaneye götürülen adam orada hipotermi (vücut ısısının aşırı düşmesi)den dolayı öldü..) The most interesting suicide It was to be found in 1998 a frenchman attempted with his a rather complex/ complicated suicide attempt, at high tide? seaside he climbed to the top part of the mountain side and tied a large rope around his neck then he tied it to a big rock then he drank poison and set fire to himself, while jumping from the gorge he fired a pistol to his head, but even more interest continues(but the rest is more interesting)....because the bullet failed to hit him it cut the rope the man didnt remain hanging when he fell into the water. The cold water put out the flames of his clothes and at the same time the shock of this to him caused him to throw up the poison he had swallowed. after he was removed from the water by a fisherman, who took him to hospital he died there because of hypothermia adam orada hipotermi ?(vücut ısısının aşırı düşmesi)den dolayı öldü..)something about it was duie to his excessive weight not the fall Edited (10/12/2010) by gokuyum Edited (10/12/2010) by gokuyum Sooree liked this message

Thread: Turkish to English please

4215.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Oct 2010 Tue 06:13 pm   Quoting Sonbahar Quote:sheena Yüreğimde zincirler kırılıyor duydun mu, nefes, nefes, bu geze sevdanın son vuruşu     Did you hear?... the chains are breaking inside my heart... Breath by breath this will be (this was...) tonight is the last shot for your love. Wait for advanced please.

Thread: Which famous Romanians do you know?

4216.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Oct 2010 Tue 01:24 am I decided to write an essay about famous Romanians i know. I am sure my English will suck. Because translating a text and writing an English essay two different things. And it is very difficult for me to express my thoughts in English because i think Turkish. So please forgive me for my mistakes. 1)While i was going to middle school i guess in one of our history lessons I first heard about Vlad Tepes-Dracula-Kazıklı Voyvoda(Voivode with Stake)He was so terrifying and interesting.He was a bloodthirsty man. I remember i thought that nailing of him ambassadores´ turban clothes to their heads is very unfair.  After i had watched the movie "Bram Stoker´s Dracula", i had a sympathy to him. Because in the movie while he was in the battlefield Ottomans was sending a message to his fiance telling that Vlad is dead (a lie for revenge) and his fiance was killing herself and because of this tragic event and his unanswered prayers he was denouncing God and turning into a monster.(Of course this is fiction but I found this very touching) Also Gary Oldman who was playing the Dracula was so charismatic in that movie this can also explain my sympathy to Dracula. By the way i am a huge fan of Gary Oldman since that movie. I also tried to read Bram Stoker´s novel but the only one i could find was English and reading a big novel in English always bores me. So i haven´t been able to finish it yet.I want to finish it.   2)Second Romanian i know was Hagi. I was going to middle school and i heard a very famous footballer was coming to the team (Galatasaray) i support. I was very excited. I think his first goal was against to Trabzonspor from a freekick. I have been a fan of him since that match. I also remember i made a bet with my friends.The bet was "as long as Hagi plays in Galatasaray we will always be champions". I was right but i have never got my 2,5 litres Coca Cola (my bet prize). Hagi was a Turk in my eyes. He was very angry and he was playing with his heart. He was like a Spartan warrior. I have always thought him as one of us. Popescu was also a great player. I always remember his last penalty and our joy when we won the UEFA Cup against Arsenal.    3)I was a nihilist some time ago and i was thinking everything is meaningless and in vain. World was the most horrible place i could imagine for a human to live. I was thinking humans are strangers in this world and everything is absurd. Then i read a book of Cioran. He was telling the same things.He was so bitter and pessimist. His style shocked me.I felt his anger and disappointment in my veins.   4)I was in a depressed mood(not a long time ago) while i was reading Panait Istrati´s novel Mihail. But Istrati´s warm writing style and his optimistic thoughts about life and friendship effected me a lot. I decided to look at the world from an optimistic perspective. I also decided to read his other novel Mediterranian. It was also a good read. Despite the fact Panait Istrati tried to kill himself at a time in his life, he was so optimistic and full of hope in his novels. In his these two novels you will witness the importance of true friendship.    5)I have always thought about Turkish history. I have always thought we tried to conquer whole Europe in the past and Europeans will never forgive us for this. I have thought all of the European historians agree that we are barbaric people. But then i read about Nicolae Iorga. He was one of the three foreign historians who wrote whole Ottoman History. And i also read that he was a very neutral historian. I decided to buy his big Ottoman History. I started to read his work from Fatih Sultan Mehmet part and i found him as they tell. There was not a single bad word about Turks. And he was also appreciating Fatih Sultan Mehmet for his good behavior towards Christians. I was very surprised. And i appreciated him a lot.   So i want to thank all these wonderful Romanian people for changing my life. Edited (10/12/2010) by gokuyum Edited (10/12/2010) by gokuyum elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: Which famous Romanians do you know?

4217.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Oct 2010 Mon 09:43 pm I always wanted to read Mircea Eliade´s books about religions and mythology but always other books  intervened.

Thread: Which famous Romanians do you know?

4218.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Oct 2010 Mon 09:36 pm It is better knowing new people than always discussing about Kurdish and Armenian issues over and over again. Edited (10/12/2010) by gokuyum Edited (10/12/2010) by gokuyum slavica and zeytinne liked this message

Thread: trans to eng

4219.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Oct 2010 Mon 02:39 pm My post is a correction of Deli´s post. So the original post doesn´t belong to me. I just coppied it and corrected. And i tried to explain what she could mean by writing when while. Edited (10/11/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Which famous Romanians do you know?

4220.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Oct 2010 Mon 02:20 pm I know these people: 1)Panait Istrati (an excellent author) 2)Emil Cioran (an excellent philosopher) 3)Nicolae Iorga (an excellent historian) 4)Gheorghe Hagi (an excellent football player) 5)Gheorghe Popescu (an excellent football player) 6)Vlad Tepes (Dracula)    Edited (10/11/2010) by gokuyum elenagabriela liked this message

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4221.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Oct 2010 Mon 02:04 pm Look at 6. message

Thread: trans to eng

4222.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Oct 2010 Mon 01:34 pm   Quoting zeytinne "...when while...." ?  What does it mean ?    I guess it means you can use when or while here. so it must be when / while

Thread: trans to eng

4223.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Oct 2010 Mon 01:28 pm Mutlu İken Söz Verme, Üzgün İsen Cevap Verme, Öfkeliysende Sakın Karar Verme, Yoksa Üzende Sen Olursun Üzülende ..! >  Don`t promise when while happy,don`t give an answer/ reply when/while sad, don`t make a decision even if you are angry otherwise you will be the one worries and worried

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4224.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Oct 2010 Mon 01:17 pm ben turkıyeye gelene kdar mesaj atma burdan alımeyle haber gonderırım sana dont send mesage to be from here until you I arrive in,/ come to Turkey I`LL let you know by Alime o ısı halledıp doncem ama bıseler yap canım senı cok ozledım hemde cok dudakl... I miss you so much sweetheart and your lips too, its for work I will return to after I sort something that matter but do something my sweetheart bana ıstek gonder burdan kabul edım konusalım hem send request to me I accept from here lets talk right now too bende senı bıta-nem ahhh yanımda olsan ceskeeeeeee me too you my one and only ohhhhhh if only you were with me Please help me translate these sentences I would really appreciate your help. Thanks so much in advance!!!

Thread: E to T please

4225.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Oct 2010 Mon 01:05 pm Sorry darling,I was sleeping and didn´t hear the phone. Sevgilim özür dilerim uyuyuyordum bu yuzden telefonu duymadim I had been working on a big test the whole day and was pretty exhausted Bütün gün büyük bir sinavında sınav üzerine çalışıyordum o yüzden çok yorgundum Its good to hear that you are ok. As always I miss you like cracy iyi olmadıgın olduğunu duymak iyi, seni ozledim deli gibi her zamanki gibi (better: seni herzamnki gibi deli gibi özledim) and every day feels like a week. ve her gün bir hafta gibi hisseder Take care of yourself darling. kendine iyi bak sevgilim I Love you seni seviyorum

Thread: v.short translation

4226.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Oct 2010 Mon 01:01 pm   Quoting tomac I´ll try, but (unfortunately) it is just a learner´s attempt. I hope someone can check or correct it.   Olmuyorsa Zorlamayacaksın If it is not happening, you won´t force it. Gönlün rahat mı? Is your heart at peace ? Elinden geleni yaptın mı? Have you done everything you could?   Cidden olmuyorsa zorlamayacaksın… If it is not happening certainly, then you won´t force it.    use "happen" instead of "be"

Thread: turkish to english please.

4227.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Oct 2010 Mon 12:56 pm   Quoting deli  dort arkadaşlarımın arkadaşım için sadece, benim için degil, ve kahvaltını kahvaltı istemiyorlar     my try

Thread: Desperate for translation to Turkish.

4228.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Oct 2010 Mon 12:54 pm   Quoting UmitEmin If God brings you to it, (Tanrı seni ona getirirse) He will bring you through it. (Seni ondan kurtaracaktır) In Happy moments, praise God. (Mutlu anlarda Tanrı´yı yücelt) In Difficult moments, seek God. (Zor anlarda Tanrı´yı ara) In Quiet moments, worship God. (Sessiz anlarda Tanrı´ya tapın) In Painful moments, trust God. (Acı veren anlarda Tanrı´ya güven) In Every moment, thank God.(Her an Tanrı´ya şükret)     aLma_BoSNa liked this message

Thread: T-E please & thank you

4229.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Oct 2010 Mon 12:46 pm   Quoting tinababy      not sure about the beginning because I think there is some punctuation missing but........   Why will I be angry with you    You are like  to the crazy women girls like you   Wait for corrections

Thread: only 1 small phrase t-e

4230.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Oct 2010 Mon 12:43 pm   Quoting smaragda ´´ hade bakam öyle olsun ´´    okay let it be that way. or okay let it be as you say.

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4231.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Oct 2010 Sun 01:24 am   Quoting deli If you don`t have anything nice to  say, don`t say anything at all. my try Hiçbir şey  deme Güzel bir şey demezsen   Söyleyecek hiçbir hoş şeyin yoksa, hiçbir şey söyleme. Kubush07 liked this message

Thread: small translation

4232.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Sep 2010 Mon 05:34 pm burçin is a name.

Thread: English to Turkish please..

4233.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Sep 2010 Mon 05:33 pm   Quoting turkcede.78 Merhaba tekrar!! This is an English to Turkish translation for anyone who would like to take a whack at it. It´s very very appreciated for any attempts! Thanks!   Hey Murat! It´s (NAME)! I´ve missed you! How´re you? This my email address so don´t email me on Facebook or hotmail, just here, okay? You still haven´t answered my question whether you´ve gone into the military or not! Any new love interests? What have you been doing?   Write back!   Again çok teşekkürler for anyone who attempts this!! 1000x!    Hey Murat. It´s (İsim). Özledim seni. Nasılsın? Bu benim email adresim lütfen facebook ya da msn´de bana email gönderme. Sadece buraya gönder tamam mı? Hala orduya gidip gitmediğin hakkındaki sorumu cevaplandırmadın. Yeni aşk ilgilerin var mı? Ne yapıyorsun?   Cevap yaz!

Thread: pls translate

4234.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Sep 2010 Sun 01:24 pm   Quoting britturk Hi I am sorry it has taken me so long to write you this letter, I hope everyone is well.  I just wanted to thank all of you for making me feel so welcome in your home I appreciate everything you did for me . I had a wonderful time in Serinyol, it was lovely to meet all of you. I am so excited about little Selimhan I cant wait to meet the new addition to your family, Congratulations , I saw photos of him and he is so  beautiful. Insallah  we will meet some time soon .Linda I am sorry this gift is delayed, I hope you will  like it. Sending my love and regards to all of the family.      Selam, size bu mektubu yazmam bu kadar geciktiği için üzgünüm. Umarım herkes iyidir. Ben sadece hepinize evinizde beni bu kadar hoş karşılanmış hissettirdiğiniz için teşekkür etmek istedim. Benim için yaptığınız herşeyi takdir ediyorum. Serinyol´da harika bir zaman geçirdim. Sizinle tanışmak gerçekten çok hoştu. Selimhan hakkında çok heyecanlıyım. Ailenizin yeni üyesi ile tanışmak için sabırsızlanıyorum. Tebrikler. Onun resimlerini gördüm ve o çok güzel. İnşallah yakın bir zamanda görüşeceğiz. Linda bu hediye geciktiği için üzgünüm umarım onu beğenirsin. Tüm aileye sevgi ve selamlarımı gönderiyorum.

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4235.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Sep 2010 Sun 01:15 pm   Quoting Nile69 I need to know if it bothers you that i still care for you as a friend? I feel like you dont need my friendship or you are to good for my friendship? I just need you to be honest with me, if you dont need my friendship and dont appriciate the fact that i am still there for you please tell me.    Seninle bir arkadaş olarak ilgilenmem hala seni rahatsız ediyor mu bilmek istiyorum. Arkadaşlığıma ihtiyacın olmadığını ya da benim arkadaşlığım için fazla iyi olduğunu hissediyorum. Benimle dürüst olmanı istiyorum arkadaşlığıma ihtiyacın yoksa ve hala senin için orada olmam gerçeğini takdir etmiyorsan lütfen bana söyle.

Thread: T to E my attempt

4236.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Sep 2010 Sun 01:06 pm   Quoting zeytinne Mümkün olsan mümkünse dükkana gel.   My try too.     Edited (9/12/2010) by gokuyum Polyglot and zeytinne liked this message

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4237.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Sep 2010 Fri 05:34 am   Quoting karinalinares Hasta Cimbomlu gerçektende hasta olur ölüm dösegine düser. Her zaman maçlara gittigi fanatik arkadaslari ziyaretine gelirler.Son defa görelim derler. " Allahin takdiri,elden birsey gelmez ama bir son istedigin varsa bari onu yerine getirelim " O zaman beni FB´ye üye yapin! Herkes birbirine bakar: "Yaav sen dogustan Galatasaray´lı degil misin? Ne yapiyorsun sen? Hasta Galatasaray´lının birden yüzü güler: "Ülen, bir CimBomlu ölecegine bir FB´li ölsün be!    A fanatic Galatasaray (a Turkish football club) supporter became sick and he was about to die. His fanatic friends who went to matches together came to visit him. They said lets see him for one last time. "This is God´s will. We can´t do anything. Do you have one last wish? Maybe we can  accomplish it." "Well then make me a member of Fenerbahçe ( biggest rival of Galatasaray) " Everyone looked at each other. "Aren´t you a Galatasaray fan since you were born? What are you doing?" The sick Galatasaray fan smiled: "Dude, instead of a Galatasaray fan dying, let a Fenerbahçe fan die!"   Edited (9/10/2010) by gokuyum elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: ŞEKER BAYRAMI (09.09.2010-11.09.2010)

4238.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Sep 2010 Fri 02:40 am   Quoting hedef Herkes için bayramınız kutlu olsun.    Herkesin bayramı kutlu olsun. elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: There is no place for God : Stephen Hawking

4239.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Sep 2010 Sun 08:40 pm Reasonable ideas. But lets wait and see. Nothing always seems like what it is.

Thread: There is no place for God : Stephen Hawking

4240.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Sep 2010 Sun 06:26 pm Philosophy is as important as science for me. Because without philosophy science would never consider ethical problems. What was the benefit of atom bomb for humanity that science created? Nothing. Science can lose it´s way without philosophy. You can see some of the great scientist´s are also philosophers. Why? Because they sometimes also criticize science. You can´t criticize science or anything without philosophy.

Thread: There is no place for God : Stephen Hawking

4241.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Sep 2010 Sun 05:34 pm        I was an agnostic till two weeks ago. I have never become an atheist because i have a very skeptic nature. I thought atheism as a belief. Because you can´t decide about anything you don´t have proof. You can only say i don´t have any proof.I have always believed if there is a god this god must be different from what holly books tell. Because when i read holly books i realized the God they tell is like a human. I couldn´t accept such a god. But when i read sufis´ works i saw they tell same God very differently. I thought they were comforting themselves. I always liked sufis but i never believed them.        I was having a great joy when i was reading atheist authors books. Everything they say was absolutely true for me. All of my favorite authors were atheist or agnostic. Nietzsche, Sartre, Camus, Sade, Cioran, Caraco and the others. I liked them because they were criticizing human God who is told in the holly books. But i kept reading books about God. Two weeks ago i read a book which tells prophet´s lives. The author´s approach to god was very different. He was telling all the holy books have a heavy symbolism and God is not like a human. I found new books about this matter. And one of these books convinced me fully. And i started to read holly books from a different perspective. And this time they seemed me very meaningful.        As you see i was an agnostic like some of you. But my skeptic nature always forced me to learn more. I have still this nature. And i keep learning new things. I advice you the same. Don´t be prejudiced, be open to new and different ideas. Always read the two side´s books about a matter and then decide.

Thread: There is no place for God : Stephen Hawking

4242.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Sep 2010 Sun 12:25 am I respect your ideas. Lets wait and see. Daydreamer liked this message

Thread: Please translate into Turkish for me ... thank you

4243.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Sep 2010 Sat 11:59 pm   Quoting deli Well, I  made a right balls up of that   and is this, konuşur musun= would you ,I thought could you, was konuşabilirdin mi    konuşurdum = I would talk konuşur muydun? = Would you talk? konuşabilirdim = I could talk konuşabilir miydin? = Could you talk?

Thread: just 2 sentences T-E

4244.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Sep 2010 Sat 11:53 pm   Quoting smaragda ´´hüner çoşkuner seni ben ellerin olsun diye mi sevdim  AND ´´Prangalara vurdum ruhumu acımasız innemelerine rağmen´´    "hüner coşkuner (a singer) did i love you for you to be others?" and "i ironed my soul in spite of it´s moanings." Edited (9/4/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: There is no place for God : Stephen Hawking

4245.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Sep 2010 Sat 11:44 pm   Quoting Daydreamer Gokum, you obviously didn´t understand my point and just repeated your earlier post. I´ll try to break it down for you.. You´re saying: If something cannot be explained by science, it proves that god exists I´m saying: If something cannot be explained by science, it means we don´t have enough knowledge YET. It may be explained in 20 years   Alameda The concept of deity seems more amusing and childish than your dislike for science. You want to hold it against it that it makes mistakes. Aren´t mistakes inevitable part of learning? Once again, we´re a young species and we´re learning fast. We make mistakes along the way but that´s normal. A child´s view of the world differs from an adult´s one. Things that used to be magical are magical no more - that´s because we learn, think and experience. It´s the same with science. One breakthrough enables other ones. What you call a sense, a human need to have god is nothing but a need to feel safe. And feeling safe is easier when you explain things you don´t understand. Primitive tribesmen called thunders gods. Today we know that it´s not like this. Still, many phenomena are left unexplained, so, people go for the easy "god" explanation. And, of course, there´s this sociological aspect of religion, unity with a group, family tradition etc    I am saying if you need a creator factor to explain a scientific event it means god is proved. This is very different from what you say. Because in my situation science would say that some phenomenons can be explained by a creator factor so these phenomenons are not incomprehensible from now on. It would say we can understand these phenomenons if we include creator factor into our calculations. So when a creator factor makes some phenomenon understandable for us, we can say god is proved. As you know there are a priori principles in science.  Scientists accept these a priori principle without proving them. Because these a priori principles are needed to make some calculations. Science need a logical base to form its theories. For example science accept universe has always existed. This is a logical inference. But science can not prove it with solid evidence. Maybe it is right maybe wrong but science needs this a priori principle. Some day maybe god´s existence will be an a priori principle for science. You can´t know this. You have to wait and see. Edited (9/4/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Please translate into Turkish for me ... thank you

4246.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Sep 2010 Sat 07:53 pm   Quoting IZMIR060406 Mum, Please help. Could you please talk to Recep when he comes to see you in November. I am not happy being married to him anymore and really need you to speak to him He is not a good husband.  He is very selfish.  He doesn´t help at all with our baby too.  This is my last try at saving our marriage because I don´t think I can live with him anymore. I wish I could speak to you myself but I had to get this message translated. Please don´t say anything to him now.  All I ask is for you or Dad to speak to him when he comes in November.   Love you very much      Anne Lütfen yardım et. Seni Kasım´da görmeye geldiğinde lütfen Recep´le konuşur musun? Artık onunla evli olmaktan mutlu değilim ve senin onunla konuşmana ihtiyacım var. O iyi bir koca değil. Çok bencil. Bebeğimizle ilgili de hiç yardımcı olmuyor. Bu benim evliliğimizi kurtarmak için son denemem çünkü artık onunla birlikte yaşayabileceğimi sanmıyorum. Keşke seninle kendi başıma konuşabilsem ama bu mesajı tercüme ettirmek zorundaydım. Lütfen ona şimdilik bir şey söyleme. Tek istediğim senin veya babanın Kasım´da geldiğinde onunla konuşması.   Sizi çok seviyorum.

Thread: There is no place for God : Stephen Hawking

4247.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Sep 2010 Sat 07:34 pm  I read many books of Ibn Arabi and other sufis. You say there is a contradiction. But there is not. You don´t need to find or show god to prove it. If you need a creator factor when you want to explain some scientific events it means you proved there is a god. I said there is nothing except god. Whole universe is a part of god. But god is more than that. We can´t understand it fully because our brains function according to time and space concepts. God is above time and space.Nobody can define fully what is god. But this doesn´t mean you can´t prove it´s existence.And i believe science will prove it. Quoting Daydreamer   How can you not see that it´s illogical to assume so? For this theory to be true, we´d have to come to the point where science does not further develop, where everything have been learnt and everything have been discovered. Only then would it be possible to say that solely creationism can explain the universe. And this is impossible. Science will never reach the level where no further research will be possible. If today´s sicentists cannot prove something, it doesn´t mean they won´t be able to do it in 20, 50, 100 years´ time. Do you realise how long people believed that the Earth is flat? Ha! There still is a group that believes it! It might be hard for you to imagine that our existence in this world is nothing in terms of time, we´re a new species, still crawling and learning about this planet. It´s naive to assume we´ve got nothing more to learn.

Thread: There is no place for God : Stephen Hawking

4248.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Sep 2010 Sat 04:11 pm I read many books of Ibn Arabi and other sufis. You say there is a contradiction. But there is not. You don´t need to find or show god to prove it. If you need a creator factor when you want to explain some scientific events it means you proved there is a god. I said there is nothing except god. Whole universe is a part of god. But god is more than that. We can´t understand it fully because our brains function according to time and space concepts. God is above time and space.Nobody can define fully what is god. But this doesn´t mean you can´t prove it´s existence.And i believe science will prove it. Edited (9/4/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: There is no place for God : Stephen Hawking

4249.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Sep 2010 Fri 11:29 pm   Quoting libralady      Until that day, we will grow old...... and many millennia later (if earth exists that long and we have not destroyed it) the same questions will still be asked.  So until then........    Don´t be so pessimist.Trust science.

Thread: There is no place for God : Stephen Hawking

4250.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Sep 2010 Fri 11:21 pm God can be proved when some scientific researches need a creator to explain some scientific events. No human mind can understand god or find it in universe in a space or time. Because i believe there is nothing except god. We are parts of it but we are not it. This is hard for us to understand fully. Edited (9/3/2010) by gokuyum Edited (9/3/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Polat will take the revenge of Blue Marmara

4251.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Sep 2010 Fri 06:29 pm I liked Valley of The Wolves Iraq i hope this movie will be better than it.

Thread: There is no place for God : Stephen Hawking

4252.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Sep 2010 Fri 04:49 pm I trust science and i believe one day god will be proved by it. Check this book:  http://www.amazon.com/There-God-Notorious-Atheist-Changed/dp/0061335304/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1283521923&sr=8-1 Edited (9/3/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: from T.to E.(semantic translation, please!)

4253.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Sep 2010 Wed 10:53 pm I think this is a positive message. He tries to say don´t be so sad like this. You also make me sad.

Thread: E - T

4254.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Sep 2010 Wed 10:24 pm   Quoting melek08 Bugün senin için dua ettim Sadece bir dakika aldı Kalpten hissedilerek edilen teşekkürlerle Ne kadar kutsandığımı biliyorum.  Senden aldığım bu kadar derin ve gerçek aşkla  Her zaman göstermeyebilir Ama hayatım, herzaman biliyorum.   Tanrının seni bana verdiğini  Ve herzaman minettar ve seven bir eş olacağım Hayatım boyunca   Seni bütün kalbimle seviyorum Ve hiçbir zaman ayrılmayacağız Bu aşkın sonsuza dek süreceğini biliyorum  Senin için dua okudum diyemeyeceğim Bir gün hiç olmayacak     Edited (9/1/2010) by gokuyum Edited (9/1/2010) by gokuyum Edited (9/1/2010) by gokuyum Edited (9/1/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: from T.to E.(semantic translation, please!)

4255.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Sep 2010 Wed 08:47 pm   Quoting Adam25     this doesn´t make much sense in english - is there another meaning for ´kaptırmak´ that you could use?     kaptırmak is a slang word. It means to be interested in something or someone without control or limit.   Edited (9/1/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: from T.to E.(semantic translation, please!)

4256.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Sep 2010 Wed 08:19 pm   Quoting olu deniz 1981 Please translate turkish to english:   Bendeseni ozluyorum sen kendini cok kaptiriyosun ben cok uzuyorsun   thankyou  I miss you too.Sometimes you give rein and make me sad.

Thread: Eng - Tur translation

4257.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Sep 2010 Wed 08:11 pm "Maybe it´s intuition, Belki sezgidir +1 but some things you just don´t question. ama sadece birşeyleri soruma bazı şeyleri sorgulamazsın Like in your eyes - gozlerindeki gibi I see my future in an instant. Geleceğimi bir anda görüyorum I think I´ve found my best friend.  en iyi arkaşdasımı bulduğumu/ bulmuştumu düsünüyorum don´t panic. keep translating deli. Edited (9/1/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Please help...

4258.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Aug 2010 Fri 09:24 am   Quoting revekah09 Anybody can help with this please: "Bosuna kazma mezarci Askimizi gomemezsin Ikimizde sevmistik Bunu sen bilemezsin..."   Thank you very much...      Don´t dig in vain, gravedigger You can´t bury our love. We have both loved You can´t know this.   rakanishu liked this message

Thread: English to Turkish - Thank you very much

4259.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Aug 2010 Thu 09:42 pm   Quoting reps I am in Asia now.  My younger brother, 38 years old, passed away suddenly on 12 August.  It is a shock to my family and I.  We are having a hard time as we miss him very much. I now have to look after my mother as my younger sister passed away 6 years ago and she doesn´t have anyone in her hometown to look after her. Please can you keep your word and honour your promise?    Şimdi Asya´dayım. 12 Auğostosta 38 yaşındaki kardeşim aniden hayatını yitirdi. Benim ve ailem için büyük bir şok oldu. Onu çok özleyerek zor bir zaman geçiriyoruz. Kızkardeşim de 6 yıl önce hayatını yitirdiği için anneme bakmak zorundayım, yaşadığı şehirde ona bakacak kimsesi yok. Lütfen sözünü tutabilir ve vaadini yerine getirebilir misin?

Thread: t to e

4260.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Aug 2010 Thu 03:09 pm   Quoting ayse-eski şebeke su borusu mu kullanıyorsun sen.. yürü bee    Do you use water network pipe.. Wow go on

Thread: Please E - T ...Thanks

4261.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Aug 2010 Thu 11:17 am   Quoting mia2626 Congratulations, i seen the good news.. im so happy for you... you wouldnt be doing what your doing if we had been together, my love always  Tebrikler iyi haberleri gördüm. senin için çok mutluyum...birlikte olsaydık yaptığını yapamazdın.. aşkım her zaman

Thread: t to e

4262.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Aug 2010 Thu 11:14 am   Quoting deli      I`m not sure about the o ne len.maybe it`s what the heck is that dude, or what is this length?  strong like a pipe of the water system network   my try

Thread: hayal kadar güzel olan güzel

4263.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Aug 2010 Thu 11:12 am   Quoting blackvelvet hayal kadar güzel olan güzel   does anyone know what this means?    beautiful as beautiful as a dream kalyoncu and deli liked this message

Thread: Özlediğini

4264.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Aug 2010 Wed 07:50 pm   Quoting Charlie160771   özlediğini I cannot find a translation for this word could sombody help with it please ?    that you miss

Thread: Bible in Turkish & Arabic Script

4265.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Aug 2010 Wed 12:32 pm try this book; simple stories written both with Turkish and Arabic alphabets. but you need to buy it. http://www.kitapyurdu.com/kitap/default.asp?id=130322&sa=63358406 Edited (8/25/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: 2 phrases T to E

4266.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Aug 2010 Wed 11:20 am   Quoting jo8a Hi Would be grateful if someone could translate these 2. Thanks! hayat dediğin nedirkii bunu hiç dusundunmu ey vefasız bu saate bıle sen varsın hisslerimde vefasız herkese iyi sağurlar  What is that you call life have you ever thought about it o disloyal! You are in my feelings even in this hour o disloyal! I wish everybody good sahurs (It is the time space you are allowed to eat untill you start to fast)   Edited (8/25/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: please help me I DIDNT KNOW THE GRAMMAR RULES IN THIS TEST

4267.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Aug 2010 Wed 08:55 am   Quoting nifrtity  1- Kaç yıl.................... sigara içiyorsunuz?  –dan beri  –dur  –tan beri  –dır için "dan beri" means since but i think "dır" is more correct but there is no such a choice.  2- Deniz gibi...... mavi gözleri, kömür gibi........siyah saçları var.    –mam / –sim  –mas / -sim  –mas / -sip  –mas / -sir  masmavi means a very solid(strong) blue. simsiyah means very solid dark.  3- Eğer vaktinde gel................ seni bekleyemem.   –mezsen  –irsen  –meyecek  –diysen  "mezsen" gives verb a negative condition meaning. gelmezsen means if you don´t come  4- Sınavda bütün sorulara iyice düşün...................... cevap  verin. –ürken  –üp  –meden  –meyerek  üp gives verb a condition meaning here. "Düşünüp cevap verin" means "answer after you think"  5-  Çorba    ...................sıcak! sır  sıs   sım  sıp  sımsıcak means very hot   6- Karşıdan karşıya geç.................... arabalara dikkat et! –ip –ince  –erek  –erken  -erken limits verb with time. geçerken means while you are passing  7- Şoför Bey! Müsait bir yerde in.........................? –ecek miyim? –er miyim? –ebilir miyim?   –yor muyum?  -ebilir miyim? asking permission  8- Ali! Oğlum! Sana söylüyorum, bu gece erken yat................ yarın erken kalkamazsın. –mazsan  –arsan –ıp –acaksan  -mazsan negative condition   9- Aaa! Annem bana bir paket gönder........................... –ir –se –miş  –ymiş  miş perfect tense   10- Süleymaniye Camii Mimar Sinan tarafından yap.................. –ıldı   –ınmış    –acakmış –ındı   -ıl makes verb passive -dı makes verb past yapıldı means it was made.  11- Bozuk kapıyı tamir et.......................? –debebilir misin? –ti misin? –dabilir misin? –dersen?    tamir edebilir misin? can you fix it?   12- Ah, keşke kar yağ............................. –arsa –sa –ırsa   –acaksa   -sa wish May snow fall.   13- Hava raporuna göre yarın hava parça............... bulutlu, deniz zaman zaman dalga......... olacakmış. –sız / –sız –lı / –sız –lı / –lı –sız / –lu   parçalı means  pieced dalgalı means wavy   14- 25 Aralık ..................... Ali’den  haber alamadım. –tan beri –dan beri –tır –dır  -tan beri means since   15- Tam kapıdan çık.................... misafirler geldi. Çıkamadım. –ırken –ken   –dım –arken  çıkarken while i  was going out arken limits verb with time  16- Hangi sınıf öğretmenleri tarafından geziye götür.................? –üldü?  –ündü? –dü?  –müş?  -üldü -ül makes verb passive -dü makes it past   17- Türkçe’yi arkadaşlarınla konuş............... daha iyi öğrenebilirsin. –arak –rken –mayarak  –ken  -arak means by konuşarak by talking   18- Hava raporuna göre hafta sonunda havanın güneş............... olması bekleniyor. –lu –siz –lik –li  -li  güneşli sunny  19- Eğer daha iyi kompozisyon yazmak iste.................... daha çok             çalışmalısın. –yorsan –yeceksen –mezsen –yorsa  -yorsan possitive condition istiyorsan if you want   20- Bu işi gelecek haftaya kadar mutlaka bitir.....................  –ilmeli –mI –mesi –memiz        This question seems wrong   HHDIPowered by hzengin©2002            My explanations are very simple. If you want to learn more please ask others. I hate grammar. Edited (8/25/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/25/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/25/2010) by gokuyum Henry liked this message

Thread: T to E my attempt

4268.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Aug 2010 Wed 08:20 am   Quoting Inscrutable Hatırlasam. May I remember. Unutmasam.May I don´t forget. Thank youuu    These verbs express wishes use may. you can use if if the verbs in these forms: Hatırlarsam : If i remember Unutmazsam : If i don´t forget    tomac and Inscrutable liked this message

Thread: Can I say ?

4269.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Aug 2010 Wed 08:09 am   Quoting Zuzu Can I say : Ey Kalbim, Aşık olma ona? or Ey Kalbim, Ona Aşık olma?   Which one is more right?    You can say both. But according to Turkish grammar verb must be at the end.

Thread: Questions about science?

4270.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Aug 2010 Tue 09:45 pm   Quoting Doriss Really??  I´m a bit skeptic about you reading 200 books about philosophy and theology....that´s a lot of time invested in making a decision about what you believe or “feel.” Two words of advice if I may…Ipod and Audiobooks. It’ll let you walk around and socialize whilst you ponder the meaning of life.      as i said i am a book worm. i was an agnostic. that was my belief.

Thread: Questions about science?

4271.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Aug 2010 Tue 06:30 pm   Quoting si++     What do you mean by ´keen agnostic´?    Here are some definition for debate: "theist"        - a person who believes God (or gods) exists. "nontheist"  - would be a person who lacks the belief "God (or gods) exists" "atheist"      - a person who believes God (or gods) do NOT exist "agnostic"  -  a person who doesn´t know.  i.e.  doesn´t believe God exists and doesn´t believe God does not exist. I recommend the following text by Theodore Drange: http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/theodore_drange/definition.html      I was an agnostic. Because i am a very skeptic person.

Thread: Questions about science?

4272.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Aug 2010 Tue 11:45 am   Quoting libralady      Yep, that is the 1st law of Thermodynamics.  I think you mean it can only change from one form to another, for instance, energy is contained fossil fuels (embodied energy), take coal and when it is burned in a fire the energy is released as heat and carbon is released into the atmosphere.   I can´t answer the question of a starting point for energy, I guess the scientists who discovered thermodynamic would have the answer.   I don´t believe in God, and have not done so since I was a child when no one could tell me how a God could let children die (children of my age) when they were at school in the Aberfan Disaster in 1966 - over 100 children died in the school when a coal waste slid onto the school and suffocated those children.  And then the question, well if there is a God how come no one has seen him?  No one could answer that either.  I have plenty of reason why I don´t believe in God.  I believe in evolution, and scientific reasoning.  In my view science can prove most things and as far as I am aware it has not proven there is a God.  Without science we would not be where we are today.    Two days ago i started to believe God. I was a very keen agnostic but two days ago i read a book and it convinced me. I am a book worm. I read 200 books about philosophy and theology. Any of them couldn´t convince me. But after i read that book i started to believe god. But i have a different god concept. I believe god created the energy that forms us. This energy has many forms. Our soul is a very thinner form of this energy. And our soul also has capacity to form energy. So that means god created us like him. But i don´t believe anybody talked with god and got revelations from him directly. There are higher creatures than us in universe and they were the ones that sent the holy books. There is only one purpose of human. It is to evolve, to have higher understanding of himself and universe.The purpose of holy books was to make us evolve. Holy books completed their missions.All the books have heavy symbolisms. If you read them without understanding these symbols they will seem to you as children stories. You should try to understand the deeper meanings of them. For example what does hell and heaven symbols mean? The ignorance or wrong concepts of a person about himself and  universe is a situation we call hell. The opposite of this is a situation we call heaven. There are many symbols like these. There are no heaven or hell as real places. These are the situations of mind and soul. Man has to evolve and gain higher understanding. But a life time is so short for a complete evolving. So we have to get through  many different lives. Each life is a step. But there is no end to evolving. There is no limit to it. Only god is perfect. And all other creatures are deficient and has to evolve. Some of my explanations can seem you absurd. But these ideas convinced me. You can´t blame god for anything. He is not responsible of children´s death. He is the creator that gave us opportunity to evolve. He created us like himself with similar capacities. He is absolutely good. This kind of perspective to god and universe seemed to me very reasonable and humanist. Edited (8/24/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/24/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/24/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: E - T poem

4273.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Aug 2010 Tue 10:32 am   Quoting melek08 Anyone?    shorter poems please Edited (8/24/2010) by gokuyum sonunda liked this message

Thread: translation to english

4274.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Aug 2010 Tue 10:30 am This is an idle talk.

Thread: plz translate

4275.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Aug 2010 Tue 10:25 am   Quoting Sooree would someone be able to translate these 2 phrases separately for me:    1 - olm sen hababm soınıfındamı okudun amq    2- lan bizim sinif hababama 5 ceker di len  "Hababam Sınıfı" is a famous novel about a very noisy class full of lazy students. It is also adapted to series of movies. So we say "hababam sınıfı" to a class like that.   1) Dude, did you study at the the final class of Hababam for god sake? 2) Dude our class would surpass Hababam, dude.

Thread: Understanding a word

4276.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Aug 2010 Tue 10:18 am   Quoting luna-tic I understand very well now. Thanks for the explanations Henry, Toggle, Zeytinne and Turkishcobra      "Bak hale" and "bak sen" can also express an astonishment.

Thread: phrase translation

4277.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Aug 2010 Tue 10:15 am   Quoting Sooree hi can someone please translate this into english please:   birine alisan icin sevmekte zor sevilmekteee     It is both difficult to love and to be loved for someone who got used to someone.

Thread: Anybody can help me with turkish translation, thank you !

4278.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Aug 2010 Tue 10:13 am   Quoting Zagreb Late summer, come autumn, the weather gets cooler, and the city seemed to turn into a huge block of clear glass.. autumn is clean and bright and conducive to romance..  Yazın sonu, sonbahar gel, havalar serinliyor, şehir büyük temiz bir cam bloğuna dönmüş gözüküyor... sonbahar temiz ve parlak ve romantizme teşvik edici.   Zagreb liked this message

Thread: trk to english, thank you

4279.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Aug 2010 Tue 10:06 am   Quoting bryang I would like to understand this sentecen please, thank you forum: Kadınların hepsi aynı diyen erkek; hoştur, sevimlidir; ilgi ve şefkate açtır. Besbelli kuyruğu fena acımıştır. Üstüne varmayın. Düzelir.  The man who says all women are same is nice, cute; hungry to attention and tenderness. Apparently he had a bad experience. Don´t bear down on him he will be alright.   yess-or-no liked this message

Thread: Web talk about USA visa

4280.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Aug 2010 Tue 10:00 am   Quoting lemon America is the root of all evil.  Why do you have an one-sided perspective about everything?

Thread: Questions about science?

4281.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Aug 2010 Tue 07:49 am Do you think science can answer all our questions? And if it can´t, are those questions meaningless? Do you think science approve any religion? Is there a mystery science will not ever solve?   As most of you know i trust science. But i have some questions unanswered. According to law of conservation of energy, energy can neither be created nor destroyed: it can only be transformed from one state to another.As you know whole universe exists of many forms of energy. My mind can´t imagine a situation energy existed always without a starting point. I think that there must be a starting point of everything. But i think our brain has its limits. As Kant says our brain functions depending on space and time concepts. And we think everything has a starting point. We can´t imagine anything that doesn´t have any starting point. But according to law of conservation of energy, energy always existed. It doesn´t have a starting point. It is not created. How can we solve this dilemma?   Same situation is valid for the God? Is there a God? If you think there is, did he created himself or he existed always? What are your arguments? Edited (8/17/2010) by gokuyum lemon liked this message

Thread: Tukish to English Please. Thank You

4282.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Aug 2010 Mon 11:07 pm   Quoting Elan can ciğerimsin (Sana varmadığım gön öldüğüm göndür gülüm)    You are my everything (The day i can´t marry with you, it is the day i will die) Edited (8/16/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Anyone who wants to chat?

4283.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Aug 2010 Mon 06:31 pm Please don´t come. I changed my mind. Edited (8/16/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/16/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/17/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/24/2010) by gokuyum Doriss liked this message

Thread: Who are your favourite martyrs?

4284.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Aug 2010 Mon 05:27 pm   Quoting thehandsom     We have just started here.. did I mention that 30 percent of necrophiliacs are also animiphiliacs?      Please go away and don´t come back. Not everybody is an expert on perversion like you. Edited (8/16/2010) by gokuyum zeytinne liked this message

Thread: Who are your favourite martyrs?

4285.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Aug 2010 Mon 04:15 pm   Quoting thehandsom Tartophilia would be more interesting than necrophilia!!     What a rude thing to say!!      thanks to you we don´t feel the absence of it. Now please stop sabotaging my thread and go away. zeytinne liked this message

Thread: Who are your favourite martyrs?

4286.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Aug 2010 Mon 03:55 pm My another favorite martyr is Rachel Corrie.

Thread: Who are your favourite martyrs?

4287.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Aug 2010 Mon 03:42 pm Thomas Moore is also a martyr. But i don´t like him. He ordered burnings of many Protestants. Edited (8/16/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Who are your favourite martyrs?

4288.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Aug 2010 Mon 03:38 pm Here is another martyr: Pir Sultan Abdal

Thread: Who are your favourite martyrs?

4289.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Aug 2010 Mon 03:33 pm   Quoting Daydreamer   Sir, yes Sir! (M´am, yes M´am?) I´m out of this thread. feel free to continue      Thank you. Bye.

Thread: Who are your favourite martyrs?

4290.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Aug 2010 Mon 03:11 pm Look lady. My thread is about martyrs who inspire you not about who is good or bad. Please if you don´t have any favorite martyrs don´t sabotage my thread. Only elenagabriela wrote her favorite martyr "Giordano Bruno" who is a very brave philosopher. Maybe people who read this thread will discover great minds if you stop sabotaging my thread. Maybe you can discover too. Click the names and see how great minds and courageous people they are.   (This message is for daydreamer)     Edited (8/16/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Who are your favourite martyrs?

4291.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Aug 2010 Mon 02:53 pm   Quoting zeytinne      İs Bin Laden dead ?    I hope he is.

Thread: Who are your favourite martyrs?

4292.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Aug 2010 Mon 02:47 pm   Quoting Daydreamer     I don´t have a problem understanding what you posted, I just couldn´t help commenting on your choice of examples. Add Hitler, Una Bomber and Bin Laden and the list is even better muehahahhaha    Maybe i can add br....-dead people who are not capable of understanding the main point in a paragraph in this forum too. Edited (8/16/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/16/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Who are your favourite martyrs?

4293.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Aug 2010 Mon 02:06 pm   Quoting Daydreamer     Yay! A cold-blooded murderer, a druggie who committed suicide and an alleged paedophile. Wow!  These are a really good choice of people to look up to     Do you have an understanding problem? I don´t care who they are. They are just examples.

Thread: Eng -- Tur please..16 sentence-translation

4294.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Aug 2010 Mon 02:04 am "The only thing I want is Your love, if I have got your love than I have the world. If I have your love than I have my dearest wish. If I have your love I have everything I can possibly ask for.   Tek istediğim şey senin aşkın. Aşkına sahip olabilirsem dünyalar benim olacak, en büyük dileğim gerçekleşmiş olacak, hayatta isteyebileceğim her şeye sahip olacağım.       I never really loved anyone before, I realize this now when loving you. It is not butterflies in my stomach, my love for you is mature and at ease. Being with you makes my heart happy. Being with you makes me want to stop time and just enjoy every moment spent with you.    Daha önce hiç kimseyi sevmedim. Bunun şimdi seni severken farkına varıyorum. Bu sıradan bir heyecan değil senin için olan aşkım sıradan değil ve olgun. Seninle birlikte olmak kalbimi mutlu kılıyor. Seninle birlikte olmak beni zamanı durdurmayı istemeye ve seninle geçirdiğim her andan haz almaya itiyor.       My love for you will last forever, perhaps we will go through our hardships...who doesnt? The beauty of this is that the outcome will be even better, we will be even stronger together. I will never make you embarassed or unhappy, I promise you this. We share the same ideas of what is important in life, I really do understand you.   Senin için olan aşkım sonsuza dek sürecek. Belki bir çok zorluklar yaşayacağız….kim yaşamaz ki? Bunun güzelliği getirisinin çok daha iyi olacak olması. Birlikte çok daha güçlü olacağız. Seni hiçbir zaman utandırmayacak ve mutsuz kılmayacağım. Sana bunu söz veriyorum. Hayatta neyin önemli olduğu ile ilgili aynı fikirleri paylaşıyoruz. Seni gerçekten anlıyorum.       I will never leave you, I will always stand beside you when times get rough and we will get through those times together. I am faithfull to you and I have committed myself entirely to you. I don´t ask for anything but your love....and if you want to give your love to me than I am forever safe and happy.""   Seni hiçbir zaman terk etmeyeceğim. İşler zorlaştığında hep arkanda duracağım ve bu zor zamanları birlikte atlatacağız. Sana sadığım ve kendimi tamamıyla sana adadım. Aşkından başka hiçbir şey istemiyorum….ve eğer aşkını bana vermek istersen sonsuza dek güven içinde ve mutlu olurum.

Thread: Who are your favourite martyrs?

4295.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Aug 2010 Mon 01:34 am What is wrong with having favorite martyrs? Their ideas and courages give me inspiration. It is not about necrophilia. Do you think all these people wearing Che Guevera, Kurt Cobain, Micheal Jackson t-shirts are necrophiliacs? Click the names i gave and see how effective was their ideas. I don´t even know how some of them look like. How can i be a necrophiliac?   Their courages and ideas are important. Check the names and see.

Thread: fashion in turkey

4296.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Aug 2010 Sun 04:37 pm I invite you all to the science.

Thread: Gavura kızıpda oruç bozulmaz

4297.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Aug 2010 Sun 03:17 pm   Quoting Henry Gavura kızıp da oruç bozulmaz. My attempt: He/she does not ruin the fasting and also get angry at non-believers.    Fast shouldn´t be ruined by getting angry at a non-muslim. It is Mevlana´s saying. It means you shouldn´t ruin your fast by getting angry at a non-muslim thinking why he doesn´t fast like me. Edited (8/15/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/15/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/15/2010) by gokuyum Henry liked this message

Thread: Gavura kızıpda oruç bozulmaz

4298.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Aug 2010 Sun 03:13 pm   Quoting zeytinne      .. non-Muslim.    Agree. We usually use it for Christians. And it is a rude word. Also there is "kafir". We use it for non-believers. It is an insult also.

Thread: Who are your favourite martyrs?

4299.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Aug 2010 Sun 12:40 am Mines are : 1) Joan of Ark  2) Socrates  3) Şeyh Bedrettin 4) Nesimi 5) Hallac-ı Mansur    Note: Please don´t forget to give English links about them.   Edited (8/15/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/15/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/15/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Please Translate Turkish to English

4300.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Aug 2010 Sat 11:12 pm Hi Folks I am having serious trouble translating the following! I would be most grateful if anyone can help Denizciggim ben de gelebilirim ama Londrada o gun isim var benim ayri yolculuk yapmak zorundayim. My dear Deniz I can come to, but I have work that day in London, I am struggling  have to make a single trip? NBana adresini verirseniz orada gorusuruz.x x x selam iyilik vallasen napiyonman iyi olsunasil izmircok sicakmisben simdi kaloriferi actimusudum valladun dolu yagdi If you give me your address we will see each other therexxxx Hi goodness honestly what are you up to, may it be good, how is the weather in Izmir apparently its is very hot, I have turned on the heating now ,really It rained down hail   constantly yesterday burda13 derece gunduzvallahi yaniyormusortasini bulmak lazimeeh heeh heepazar gunu fransaya gidiyorum, It is thirteen degrees here during the day really. Its necessary to find the medium do ? in moderation Im going to France on Sunday ona hazirlaniyorumilk defa arabayla yo kadar uzun yola cikacambiraz hazirlik yapmam gerek I am getting ready for it, for the first time I will go such a long way by car   I will take the long road? I need to prepare for it ulerle gorusuyon mu hicagustos sonu Will Do you see Uler at all at the end of August  eylulun ilk haftasi insallah turkiyeye gelicezgelince goruselim We will come to Turkey hopefully the first week of September, lets meet when we come pekii o zamanben simdi vapur saatlerine bi bakiimsonra anlamadimpekii o zamanneyse ben kacayim simdionemli degil guzelimhadi iyi geceler byeslmiyilik senden naber  If thats the case I` ll look at the steamship hours now. Ok I understood  didn`t understand , anyway I`m escaping (leaving) It`s not important now my beauty, goodnight bye any news from you? hi how are you?   Not bad actually very good translation.

Thread: so long i know but please help very important

4301.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Aug 2010 Sat 03:11 am   Quoting lauraacorah Loving you is too dangerous for me, what is the point of  loving you so deeply for one day in the future you tell me you dont care about me again?. I know you have had a lot to deal with and  the  last 6 months have been very difficult for you and I understand you had depression, thats why i was understanding and stuck by you. However think of it from my perspective. You said that during your depressed moments you stopped caring for me...How am I ever going to feel loved and secure if your feelings for me can change so easily. I can not put myself in a vulnerable situation again. I need to be loved and cared for its what I deserve. I cant live my life always feeling insecure and living in fear . Life has many suprises we dont know what will happen but imagine if we were married with children and something traumatic happened and you got depressed again and you stopped caring for me again. I dont want to be hurt , love is something I have craved for so long and if theres a chance that your love for me can end then there is no hope for us.Love is the only thing I have expected from you.  Seni sevmek benim için çok tehlikeli, gelecekte bir gün tekrar bana umurumda değilsin diyeceksen seni bu kadar derinden sevmemin ne anlamı var? Biliyorum üstesinden gelmen gereken çok şey vardı ve son altı ay senin için çok zordu ve depresyonun olduğunu anlıyorum. Bu yüzden seni anlıyordum ve sana sadık kaldım. Ama durumu bir de benim açımdan düşün. Depresyonlu anlarında beni umursamaktan vazgeçtiğini söyledin. Benim için duyguların bu kadar çabuk değişebilirken nasıl sevildiğimi ve güven içinde olduğumu tekrar hissedebilirim. Kendimi tekrar böyle güvensiz bir duruma sokamam. Sevilmek ve umursanmak istiyorum çünkü bunu hakediyorum. Hayatımı hep güvensiz hissederek ve korku duyarak yaşayamam. Hayat süprizlerle dolu. Hayal et ki evlendik ve çocuklarımız var. Ya travmatik bir şey olur ve benimle ilgilenmekten tekrar vazgeçersen? İncitilmek istemiyorum. Aşk çok uzun zamandır arzuladığım bir şey ve bana olan aşkının bitmesi gibi bir şans varsa, o zaman bizim için umut yok. Aşk senden beklemiş olduğum tek şey.   lauraacorah liked this message

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4302.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Aug 2010 Sat 02:54 am   Quoting ayse-eski     yunus abi var onunla sohbet ediyordum biz görmediysek sen gör yavrukuş illaki ilk önce dayın mı yalasın    There is a brother Yunus. I was talking with him. If we hadn´t seen, see yourself baby bird. Does your uncle have to necessarily lick it first?   Edited (8/14/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/14/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: trk - eng. please

4303.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Aug 2010 Sat 02:48 am   Quoting bryang Thank you forum: yorma fazla kendını halısaha falan zor ıs bu top ısı ıdman falan sana gore degıl bu ısler hehe.. bu yastan sonra hele hıc gerek yok kufur yıcen turke bak aq topa vurmayı bılmıyo dıcekler sonra senden sonra oraya gıtcek turkler ıcınde onyargılı olcaklar hıc bulasma sen bu ıse hehehe.    Don´t exhaust yourself much. This miniature field thing, playing football, training are hard works. They are not for you. Especially there is no need after this age. They will swear you. They will say "Look at this Turk. He doesn´t even know how to kick the ball." And they will be biased about other Turks who will go there after you." Don´t get involved with these things.

Thread: Tur -- Eng. I just need help with corrections in my translation

4304.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Aug 2010 Sat 02:38 am   Quoting olive87 Aşk sana benzer. İyiki sen varsın.     My try: You are like love, you recemble love? It is good that you....exsist?       Many thanks in advance

Thread: Explaination demanded for the broken Turkish used in a serial

4305.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Aug 2010 Wed 10:26 pm   Quoting scalpel It is my fav serial and RTÜK should take their dirty hands away from that amazingly funny movies. This Supreme Council´s former chairman Zahit Akman -who was appointed by the AK party, who is still one of the members of the council- is connected with the Deniz Feneri e.V case in Germany:  http://www.ataturktoday.com/RefBib/DenizFeneriLighthouseCaseSummary.htm "In the Deniz Feneri e.V. case, viewed as the biggest charity scandal in German history, a court in Frankfurt jailed three managers from the charity´s German branch for directing 14.5 million euro ($20.6 million) of donated funds collected from the Turkish community in Germany into private companies.   Several people based in Turkey ; including Akman, were implicated as the masterminds amid claims that the charity, whose founders are close to the ruling government, might have funneled funds into the prime minister´s Islamic-rooted Justice and Development Party (AKP)."          it is one of my fav. too. it makes me laugh so much.

Thread: Quick English - Turkish Please

4306.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Aug 2010 Tue 11:49 am   Quoting deli gokuyum can you explain to me why tartIsMAydı looks like negative to me please I am a DUMB BLONDE;    There are two "tartışma". One is a noun other is a negative verb.   Don´t argue with me. Benimle tartışma. (here is negative verb) This discussion is useless. Bu tartışma yararsız (here is noun)       zeytinne and deli liked this message

Thread: t to e please

4307.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Aug 2010 Tue 11:29 am   Quoting zeytinne   "  iyi bir kitap okuyan" sounds more like " a good reader of a book" much more than " a reader of a good book"    Your logic could be right if okuyan was a noun in this sentence. But it is not. It is an adjective verb. And it defines "kimse"   deli liked this message

Thread: T to E my attempt

4308.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Aug 2010 Tue 11:15 am   Quoting deli       enfeksiyona yakalanmadım ama onu vücudum meydana getirdi.   my try but wait for corrections     deli liked this message

Thread: Quick English - Turkish Please

4309.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Aug 2010 Tue 11:13 am   Quoting amateur Please could someone translate this for me? Last one! Thank you   ´Please don´t worry or be sad. We argued on Saturday but it was a silly argument. Everything is ok. I think he is just tired and getting angry easily´  Lütfen endişelenme ve üzülme. Cumartesi günü tartıştık ama aptalca bir tartışmaydı. Herşey yolunda. Sanırım o sadece yorgun ve kolaylıkla sinirleniyor.

Thread: english to turkish please

4310.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Aug 2010 Mon 09:25 pm   Quoting scalpel     You must be joking. Fasting is a training for the self, getting it used to good deeds, discipline, obedience, patience and sincerity. Those who get angry because of hunger from fast and "easily swear and harm each other", Allah is not in need of them leaving their food and drink . Listen to the statement of the Prophet (sav): If one of you is fasting, he should not use obscenity that day nor shout; and if someone speaks abusively or wants to fight with him, he should say."verily I am fasting, verily I am fasting".      Facts: 1)Fast is an obligation for all Muslims. (If they are not sick) 2) If you are Muslim and if you don´t fast it means you are opposing God´s command. You can go to hell. 3)No Muslims want to go to hell. 4) So all real Muslims want to fast. 5) But there are all kind of Muslims.Some of Muslims easily get angry, some of them not. Some of them is patient some of them not. Some of them can control themselves, some of them not. 6)So some of them easily swear and harm each other because of hunger. 7)This is not their fault. Their nature is this way. 8)So sleeping while fasting can be a harmless way for some people. 9)There is no objection to sleeping while fasting in the Quran. 10 ) I don´t fast. Edited (8/9/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: english to turkish please

4311.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Aug 2010 Mon 11:44 am   Quoting zeytinne      There are many who don´ t keep it.    They will go to hell with me. deli and elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: english to turkish please

4312.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Aug 2010 Mon 11:28 am   Quoting zeytinne      Harmless way would be not to feast if they cant.    I totally agree. But it is an obligation for Muslims. Edited (8/9/2010) by gokuyum elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: english to turkish please

4313.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Aug 2010 Mon 11:21 am   Quoting zeytinne      And this you call "oruç" ?     So what? Do you know how much fasting make someone angry? Not eating, not drinking in these hot weathers. Not smoking? People easily swear and harm each other. So sleeping is a harmless way. And there is nothing wrong eating all night. You are free to eat as much as you want. Edited (8/9/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/9/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/9/2010) by gokuyum elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: T to E please....thank you

4314.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Aug 2010 Mon 11:09 am   Quoting sonunda     Yalansız yaşayamıyorlar Hatta Söyledikleri Yalanlara Kendileri Bile inaniyorlar They cannot live without lies and they even themselves believe the lies that they tell. +1   My try for second part.    Yalan insanların Artık Bir Duygusu Olmuş gibidir. Lie is now like an emotion of humans.  deli liked this message

Thread: english to turkish please

4315.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Aug 2010 Mon 11:03 am We turks are very fond of our comfort. So there is nothing wrong sleeping all day and eating all night. Edited (8/9/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Turkish to English please (brief)

4316.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Aug 2010 Mon 10:58 am   Quoting Henry My try at translating bits Ne o?  What is it?  +1  engelledin mi beni? Have you blocked me?  +1 ibis      ... maybe misspelt  ibiş (fool / idiot) +1 siist    .... ????? something like "pssssst" kiz   ..... maybe misspelt kız (girl) +1     Henry liked this message

Thread: english to turkish please

4317.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Aug 2010 Sun 07:14 pm   Quoting sam1 name takes after her mum in every way  Name annesine her yönden çok çekmiş.

Thread: E - T

4318.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Aug 2010 Sun 07:11 pm   Quoting melek08 Do you know what it is like to live the life, Of an Turkish Soldier´s Wife? Biliyor musun neye benzer Bir Türk askerinin hanımının hayatını yaşamak?   Always having to stand strong, Forever pretending nothing´s wrong.   Hep güçlü durmak zorunda olmak Sonsuza dek herşey yolundaymış gibi davranmak  All the tears we shed at night, Because our husband is not there to hold us tight.   Geceleyin döktüğümüz tüm gözyaşları Çünkü kocalarımız bizi sıkıca sarmak için yanımızda yok  All the time´s we sit in silence and pray, That God will bring him home safely to stay.   Her zaman  sessizlikte oturup dua ederiz Tanrı onu eve kalması için güven içinde getirsin diye.  Or when our hearts feel as heavy as stone´s, Cause we are apart and all alone.   Veya kalbimiz bir kayanın ki kadar ağır hissettiğinde Çünkü ayrıyoız ve yapayalnızız. And out of all the things in this world we miss, The thing we miss most is his kiss.   Ve dünyada tüm şeyler içinde  özlediğimiz En çok özlediğimiz şey onun öpücüğüdür.  We think of him with every breath, We know without him, our life is death. Dreading another missed tomorrow.   Her nefeste onu düşünürüz. Biliriz ki onsuz hayatımız ölümden farksız.  Korkarak kaybedilmiş bir diğer  yarından  And hearing everyone call him a Hero, your heart swells with pride, You say, Thank You, and smile to hide the void you feel inside.   Ve herkesin onu bir kahraman olarak çağırması kalbinizi gururla doldurur Teşekkür ederim dersiniz ve içinizdeki boşluğu gizlemek için gülümsersiniz.  He doesn´t choose to be away from his family and friends, But, without our Soldiers this war would never end.   O ailesinden ve arkadaşlarından uzak olmayı seçmiyor Ama askerlerimiz olmadan  bu savaş asla sona ermezdi.           melek08 liked this message

Thread: turk to eng please

4319.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Aug 2010 Sun 06:59 pm beğendiğiniz bedenlere, hayalinizdeki ruhlari koyup aşk saniyorsunuz Quoting sonunda     You are putting the souls that are in your imagination to the bodies that you like and imagining you think it is love. My try

Thread: translation turk to eng please

4320.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Aug 2010 Sun 06:57 pm a translation please of the below thanks anlamiyorum yazdiklarindan ? daha gelmedi gelince yazacagim sana telefonunu Quoting deli      I cant understand the things that you wrote  ,it /she /he didnt arrive/come yet, I will send a message to    write you his/her phone when it/she /he comes   my try     deli liked this message

Thread: T to E my attempt

4321.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Aug 2010 Sat 02:01 pm   Quoting atarsiniz5716 işten eve erken döndüm...    better

Thread: Very brief translation for urgent cause

4322.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Aug 2010 Sat 01:55 pm   Quoting angel_of_death   Umudunu yitirme.  Senin için savaşmaktan vazgeçmeyeceğiz.  Amerika´dan sevgiler.   ps:  I´m not a native but I´m somewhat fluent in Turkish. pps:  I´m really sorry for your friend..    I am a native. And this translation is absolutely correct.   Edited (8/7/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: and this too T-E whoever has time

4323.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Aug 2010 Sat 01:47 pm   Quoting smaragda i know its little big and im sorry but its very important :/ Duyuyor musun çatındaki sesleri? yağmur değil o, benim.. Kovmadın belki ama, içeri girmekten hala korkan, ama hala kapına gelmiş olan benim. "Kaç yağmurdan, içeri gel" diyorsun ama bilmiyorsun ki sevgilim, aramızda bir uzaklık var Do you hear the voices on the roof? It is not rain, it is me... Maybe you did not kick me out, but it is me who is still afraid but has come to your door. "Run from rain, come in" you are saying but you don´t know my love that there is a distance between us. Bütün o güzel şarkıların bahsettiği uzaklık değil belki ama; dip dibe olsak bile kalacak o... uzaklık.. Sıcak olan herşeyi alıp götüren, bir şekilde yalıtan uzaklık. Öyle ki, yumruklaya yumruklaya kapını çalsam bile yağmur pıtırtısı kadar uzak gelecek.. Maybe it is not the distance which all beautiful songs tell but that distance will stay between us even we are so close. The distance which takes everything away and makes them isolated in a way.  Even i knock your door by fisting, it will sound far like a tap of rain  Biliyorum ki ne gözyaşları döküldü, dondu buz oldu sonra tekrar kırıldı Ama artık sonunda üzüleceğimiz tek bir kelime çıkmayacak ağzımdan Şarabından içmeyeceğim.   I know a lot of tears were shed, they froze and became ice and then they were broken again. But no words which will upset us will not come out from my mouth. I will not drink from your wine. Sen erkeğini susuz bırakıyorsun, ölüme terk ediyorsun.. Kalbim ne kadar kırılgan, tenim ise ne kadar renkli.. Güzel zamanlardan kalan bütün o renkler tenimde şimdi, ama içimde sadece karanlık var, ve Yağmurun çiselemesi gibi soğuk..    You leave your man without water, you leave him to the death. My heart is so fragile, my skin is so colored. All the colors remained from good times are on my skin now.But there is only darkness inside me. And the sprinkle of rain is so cold. Ama sen, gizlice gözyaşı döktüğünde, "geri gel!" dediğinde, nasıl da koşar gelirim hemen yanına Ama nasıl koşabilir.. But when you shed tears secretly and say "come back" how can i  immediately come near you by running But how can I run.....      Edited (8/7/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/7/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: short translation please

4324.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Aug 2010 Sat 01:24 pm You can be both right

Thread: Do you know the meaning of ´Taysan´

4325.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Aug 2010 Sat 01:11 pm There is also a turkish name "Taylan" There is a soap opera named "Hatırla Sevgili" and there is a character named Taylan. Edited (8/7/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Do you know the meaning of ´Taysan´

4326.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Aug 2010 Sat 01:04 pm   Quoting irashay Nooo, he´s was on a soap opera and when it finished it said   Taysan was his name  What was the name of soap opera and when did you watch it?

Thread: Eng -- Tur translation pls

4327.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Aug 2010 Fri 02:38 pm   Quoting olive87 I know you got your doubts. Just wait and see, I will come and you will understand loving you is not a lie, you will realise my heart truely wants you. Being in love with you is what is true and pure. I will wait until the day you are ready for me to come again. Şüphelerin olduğunu biliyorum. Sadece bekle ve gör. Geleceğim ve sana aşık olmamın bir yalan olmadığını anlayacaksın. Kalbimin gerçekten seni istediğini kavrayacaksın. Sana aşık olmak doğru ve saf olan şeydir. Benim için tekrar gelmeye hazır olduğun zamana kadar bekleyeceğim.  I know what is important for you, and it is just as important for me. I am in the process of learning right now, and for every day that ends I have taken new knowledges. I will need your help as well, because your knowledge is the most important for me. Senin için neyin önemli olduğunu biliyorum ve aynı şey benim içinde önemli. Şu anda öğrenme sürecindeyim ve geçen hergünle birlikte yeni bilgiler ediniyorum. Senin yardımına da ihtiyacım var çünkü senin bilgin benim için çok önemli.    Thank you for coming into my life. I will do all there is to have you as my partner. I love you, and for every day that we are apart...I realise that I love you even more. Now is not a bad time, even though we are apart. Now is the best time for us because we have time to think and learn more about each other. I have time to show you exactly what my intentions are. When I finally come, you will understand and realise that I do it all for you. You, xxnamexx, are my truth. Hayatıma girdiğin için teşekkürler. Seni benim partnerim olarak tutabilmek için gereken herşeyi yapacağım. Seni seviyorum. Ve ayrı oldupğumuz her gün seni daha çok sevdiğimi kavrıyorum. Ayrı olmamaıza rağmen şu an kötü bir zaman değil. Aslında iyi bir zaman çünkü düşünmeye ve birbirimiz hakkında daha çok öğrenmeye vaktimiz var.Sana gerçek niyetlerimin neler olduğunu göstermek için zamanım var. Sonunda geldiğimde herşeyi senin için yaptığımı anlayacak ve kavrayacaksın. Sen xxnamexx benim gerçeğimsin.     Thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks to all who try to help. It is very important for me to get this translated. / Olivia Sebach

Thread: E-T \"I don´t think you´re going...\"

4328.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Aug 2010 Fri 07:11 am   Quoting tomac Hi all, I´ve just wondered how following (bit tricky) sentence should be translated to Turkish (for curious, it is a quote from the game "Portal").   I don´t think you´re going where you think you´re going.   My attempt would be: Gittiğin yer sandığın yere gitmeni sanmam.   Is it correct? Thanks for any help.    Gittiğini sandığın yere gittiğini sanmıyorum. Edited (8/6/2010) by gokuyum elenagabriela and kdr liked this message

Thread: anybody to Turkish please!

4329.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Aug 2010 Fri 07:09 am ..I wasn´t doing anything. I just kept waiting for you to call. I opened the window, set next to it, in the fresh air, and tried to get comfortable... Quoting deli      ben hiç birşey yapmıyordum. bana telefon etmen icin sadece  bekliyordum.sürdürdüm.pencereyi açtım, onun yanında oturdum, taze havasında ve rahat etmeyı denedim   Hiç birşey yapmıyordum.Sadece senin aramanı bekliyordum. Pencereyi açtım ve yanına oturdum. Temiz havada rahatlamaya çalıştım.      my try but its probably all wrong but im trying the other way for a change ,please wait for corrections ,there will be many im sure

Thread: phrase T - E please, thanks a lot

4330.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Aug 2010 Thu 08:52 pm   Quoting bryang Thank you in advance Forum: defolu caddelerde bulduğun ihraç  fazlası aşklarsa payına düşen, senden önce öpülmüş dudaklarda, sana ait  cümleler aramayacaksın     Wow a difficult one let me try   If the loves which are the surpluses of export you find in the faulty streets is your share, you shall not search for the sentences which belong to you on the lips kissed before you. Edited (8/6/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/7/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: How to Wish in Turkish

4331.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Aug 2010 Thu 08:43 pm   Quoting sonunda     I think if it´s an expression of regret like your example meaning also ´if only´ you use keşke+the past conditional. keşke olsaydım=If only/I wish I were........... (I think you use dilemek when you wish someone a nice day or of course özür dilerim-lit. I wish pardon=I apologize)   My try-hope it helps.    keşke gelse : If only she comes  keşke gelseydi : if only she would come gelmesini diliyorum: I wish her to come

Thread: pls translate

4332.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Aug 2010 Thu 12:27 pm   Quoting canimarab The type of behaviours you condone I dont. We have different views and opinions. In my culture it is certainly not acceptable for the man or the woman to be unfaithful if they  are in a relationship. Your views worry me, within your culture it seems quite acceptable for a man to be in a relationship/ engaged but sleep with other women until he marries his darling.  Senin göz yumduğun davranışlara ben göz yummam. Bizim farklı görüşlerimiz ve fikirlerimiz var. Benim kültürümde bir erkeğin veya kadının eğer bir ilişki içindelerse sadakatsiz olması kabul edilemez. Senin görüşlerin beni üzüyor/endişelendiriyor. Sizin kültürde bir ilişki içinde ya da nişanlı olan bir erkeğin sevgilisyle evlenene kadar başka biriyle yatması oldukça kabul edilebilir gibi görünüyor.

Thread: E - T (poem)

4333.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Aug 2010 Thu 12:00 pm I finished at last I made some modifications too. It is a very good  poem and very sad. See you. Edited (8/5/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Humans : Are they good or evil?

4334.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Aug 2010 Thu 09:34 am   Quoting peacetrain So ...  are these philanthropists selfish if they keep their billions or selfish if they give half of it away? http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/aug/04/us-billionaires-half-fortune-gates   Seeing this news item made me ponder other questions.  How much money does one human being need in order to be happy? Do people with billions, or just simply more money than they would ever need, feel they have nothing left to work towards in business? Is this why some turn to philanthropy? A new focus. An interesting thread Gok        Answer: God complex

Thread: Humans : Are they good or evil?

4335.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Aug 2010 Thu 09:07 am   Quoting barba_mama Jesus helped other people, so he must have been a totally selfish egoist right?       Here is an example with no comments: For a woman whose young daughter had an unclean spirit heard about Him [Jesus—KB], and she came and fell at His feet. The woman was a Greek, a Syro-Phoenician by birth, and she kept asking Him to cast the demon out of her daughter. But Jesus said to her, “Let the children be filled first, for it is not good to take the children’s bread and throw it to the little dogs.” And she answered and said to Him, “Yes, Lord, yet even the little dogs under the table eat from the children’s crumbs.” Then He said to her, “For this saying go your way; the demon has gone out of your daughter.” And when she had come to her house, she found the demon gone out, and her daughter lying on the bed (7:25-30; see also Matthew 15:21-28).     Edited (8/5/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/5/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/5/2010) by gokuyum

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4336.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Aug 2010 Wed 02:12 pm   Quoting barba_mama I think this is also a debate about definitions. I think "selfish" means that you put your own joy above that of everybody else, and you only care about if YOU are happy. Your happiness can even come to the expence of other peoples happiness, you don´t care! Therefor, helping somebody else is 99% of the times not selfish. A truly selfish person will not get any joy from helping somebody else, because a selfish person will not get any joy from seeing somebody else happy. Egoism is slightly different. I guess egoism is more about thinking that you are the centre of the universe, and having the utmost interest for yourself. Perhaps helping can be a part of egoism, if part of the egoistic ideal somebody has for him/herself is "the hero who helps others".  i dont agree. i told my reasons.

Thread: Humans : Are they good or evil?

4337.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Aug 2010 Wed 09:59 am   Quoting barba_mama  I cut a bit in the following quote:    1) I said I do not feel joy seeing the smile on his face, confessing the MURDER of children. There are different smiles And I would not find joy in his smile after he would not be convicted for example, because of a technical error. This is a smile of injustice, that doesn´t give me joy. I do get a fuzzy feeling from smiles of criminals who work with street-dogs. (Just saw the documentary on discovery ) 2+3) In my opinion Freud was a bit of a quack, especially during his last years (quackery is şarlatanlık). Okay, quack is a bit overstated. I think 80% of his ideas were totally crazy. When I first started to study psychology I thought "wow, interesting, I never realised that" with what I read from his work. Most people quote Freud, so I thought he MUST be right. But as I started to read more and more of his work, and learned about his life, I started to totally disagree with his views. The guy was a total nutcase (with a deadly fear of the number 62), and connected almost every single problem a person could have with sexuality.  As much as i know Freud is an important man.He is the founder of the psychoanalytic school of psychiatry. Freud thought human is a puppet of his brutal and sexual wills. He thought human is a destructive animal. So he called humans evil. But i don´t agree with him. I don´t think humans are always destructive. He defends there are only two motives under our behaviors: sex and brutality. Maybe he thinks all kinds of pleasures(being proud, feeling good) are some kind of sexual emotions. I am not sure. But i think there is one motive too it is "to know". People always wanted to know more along the history. And they didn´t care whether others condemn them or not. The will of knowing generally makes people creative and constructive. But not always. The will of knowing whether the atom would break up or not caused atom bombs to be made. I think the important question here why people always want to know more? Because people are egoist creatures. We always want to have more. More money, more women, more dignity and more knowledge. We can never satisfy our wills for a long time. Always the new ones will show up. Maybe Freud thought this would cause destruction in the society in the end. But we also help more people to satisfy ourselves more. So wanting something more is not always destructive. Wanting to know more is the motive of scientists. And thanks to it, we live these comfortable lives.   So egoism is not always bad Edited (8/4/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Humans : Are they good or evil?

4338.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Aug 2010 Wed 09:28 am   Quoting lemon     Alameda, you are so humanist. All humans are equally evil, including you alameda.  I think all humans are evil according to common ethics. But they are not equally evil. Not everybody is a Hitler or Stalin. I call them negative egoists. Because their egoism is destructive. I defend only one thing all humans are egoists.

Thread: Humans : Are they good or evil?

4339.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Aug 2010 Tue 12:20 pm   Quoting zeytinne      "bad" is not the same with "evil" ..maybe in Turkish you dont have the difference between these 2 words but in English you have !  then forgive my ignorance.

Thread: Humans : Are they good or evil?

4340.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Aug 2010 Tue 12:11 pm   Quoting zeytinne What made you choose "evil" instead of "bad" ? "Evil" sounds on my ears like "demonic". How can you use such a word as opposite of "good" ? . You must bare too much hate in your soul... Geçmiş olsun!  You can use bad instead of evil.

Thread: Humans : Are they good or evil?

4341.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Aug 2010 Tue 12:10 pm   Quoting barba_mama I think you are selfish if you do an action, which MAIN goal is satisfy yourself. If you help somebody else, and your biggest goal is not to satisfy yourself, it is not persé selfish. Satisfying yourself might be a nice side effect of helping somebody else, but this does not make the act selfish.   By the way, I have never hated anybody because they hurt my ego My ego is not easily hurt I think that is a very ego-centric vision on hate, to view hatred as something that only comes from hurt ego´s.    1)I agree with you. But if you examine human behaviors you will see our main goal is always satisfy ourselves. You said yourself you feel joy when you see a smile on a child´s face. But you don´t feel any joy when you see a smile on a serial killer´s face. So you choose people you want to help. This is egoist. A serial killer is a human too. And his smile is not different from a child´s smile. If he is in jail, there is no obstacle to help him and make him smile. Because if you want to make  a bad person good one you must help him. I am sure Jesus would approve this. You can see a lot of serial killers or rapers became good Christian believers in prisons. There are priests in prisons also helping criminals. So it is a moral thing to help them. According to common ethics you should not choose people you want to help. 2) You say you have never hated anyone who hurt your ego. Let me prove you are wrong with your words. You talk like you hate or don´t like serial killers? Have you ever asked yourself why? Because they hurt your ego.There are two types of ego. One is the normal ego, other is super ego. The superego is the aspect of personality that holds all of our internalized moral standards and ideals that we acquire from both parents and society--our sense of right and wrong. The superego provides guidelines for making judgments. According to Freud, the superego begins to emerge at around age five.(1) So we can say superego is a representative of society in ourselves. A serial killer´s crimes challenges our superego. We don´t accept them because we are taught they are bad. So we don´t like serial killers. Generally we hate them. Because thinking their crimes makes us sad and scared. They challenge our super ego. But you know soldiers also can kill a lot of people. But you don´t hate them. You love them.Why? Because you are taught they are the people who protect you. You think they will never harm you. You trust them. This pleases your superego. 3) So everything is about ego. Freud saw these and called humans evil or bad by nature. But i don´t agree with him. Being egoist is not always a bad thing.   (1)http://psychology.about.com/od/theoriesofpersonality/a/personalityelem.htm   I want to say something. You are objecting me with the arguments which my inner voice objected me. It is very interesting to hear same objections. I also objected myself with these arguments but i convinced myself. Hope i will convince you too. Bye.   And please read this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operant_conditioning Edited (8/3/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/3/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/3/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/3/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Humans : Are they good or evil?

4342.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Aug 2010 Tue 08:01 am   Quoting Elisabeth Does having a need to satisfy make you selfish?  Also, as you have defined selfishness....it sounds like a good thing...not evil.  Does being selfish automatically mean you are evil?  What is evil?  I think evil is the: 1.  Intent to harm 2.  Gaining pleasure from harming someone else.    Hummmm....now I feel like I am in philosophy class again.  Thanks gokuyum...you have me contemplating the universe again.  If you do an action to satisfy yourself it is selfish. But sometimes you can´t know if an action will satisfy yourself or not. You can only decide whether it is satisfying or not after you acted. If the result is satisfying you will go on doing this action.Because you will want to feel this satisfying or pleasure again. This is called operant conditioning by Skinner. So the intention is important. But most of the time we know whether an action will satisfy and make us happy or not. And we do an action to satisfy ourselves. This is egoism. But it is not an evil thing always. Read the posts above i explained this.

Thread: Humans : Are they good or evil?

4343.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Aug 2010 Tue 05:47 am   Quoting barba_mama     And why do we hate this people? Perhaps because they are undeserving of our love or attention. This has nothing to do with selfish or not, but with right or wrong. I feel joy to see a hungry child smile, after he gets a meal... Even though I do not know this child at all. I do not feel joy when I see a crazy child-killer smile, after he has just admitted that he has killed several children.... Even though I do not know this man at all. I´d rather give food to the hungry child, than help the crazy killer out of jail. Even if I would be unable to have feelings of joy, I would make this choice. Why? This is simply because I believe one is more deserving than the other, and there is a connection of justice to it.     PS: interesting thread      Most of the time we hate people who challenges  our ego. We can easily hate people when they don´t agree with us or criticize us. Because they defy our ego. You say you feel joy when  you see a hungry child smile and don´t feel joy when you see a crazy child killer smile. As i said you want to feel joy when you help someone in return. So you help people to feel that joy.This is egoist. But it is not a bad thing. I call this positive egoism. I am defending it. But Kant says you must help people for the sake of helping. He says this is the moral one. And according to common ethics he says the truth. But i don´t defend this kind of idea. I am defending positive egoism. We should help the people we love or pity and have pleasure in return. There is nothing wrong with this. We are egoist creatures. And egoism is not always an evil thing. I called humans evil creatures according to common ethics. Because egoism is evil according to it. But good and evil is relative. I am trying to show egoism is not always a bad thing. All the big artists,inventors, scientists are egoist people. Because they followed their ideas by not paying attention to public opinion.Their whole purpose was creating or discovering something new. Because only this way they would be happy. As you see their egoism was positive. Edited (8/3/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/3/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/3/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Humans : Are they good or evil?

4344.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Aug 2010 Mon 12:47 pm Most of the time doing an act because of social duty is an selfless act because you give something but  in return you take nothing. Maybe you feel pain. But you bear it because of social duty. This is an selfless act. But you can also feel happy when you give someone something because of social duty. This is an selfish act too. Because you take some kind of pleasure. Nobody can force you to do your social duty if it is not a law. And most of people prefer not to do it. But some do it. Because they feel they are obliged to do it. And they take no pleasure in return. This is pure selfless act. But if the person thinks other people will celebrate him/her in return if he/she does his social duty it is selfish too.   For example most of the people send their old parents to nursing homes. But some of them take care of them even they don´t want and it is unbearable. Because they think it is a social duty to take care of them. This is an selfless act. But i don´t approve this kind of selfless act. Because you don´t want to help them. But you feel you are obliged to. I dont find it is sincere. I aprove the selfish act. You should take care of them if you want, you shouldn´t take care of them if you don´t want. This is more honest. Edited (8/2/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/2/2010) by gokuyum

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4345.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Aug 2010 Mon 12:38 pm   Quoting barba_mama The mistake that a lot of people make in their reasoning is about the definition of "selfish". Feeling good about an act doesn´t make that act selfish. In my opinion, if you for example do something because of the social pressure, it is a selfish act. You are just doing it because otherwise it would make YOU worse of. If you do something and it makes you feel good, that doesn´t make you selfish. Perhaps you feel good simply because you see that others are happy. This is not selfish at all. You get joy, simply because others are feeling better. It´s not about being proud of yourself or anything. It is getting a good feelig from seeing the smiles on other people´s faces. Only selfish people can not understand that feeling, and describe the good acts of others as selfish, simply because they don´t understand.  Good point. But you should understand this we help people only we want to help. This is selfish. Nobody helps the people they hate. Why? Because in return they feel pain or they don´t feel anything. People only help people who they will have pleasure in return. It is an selfish act. Do you understand me?

Thread: Humans : Are they good or evil?

4346.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Aug 2010 Mon 12:35 pm   Quoting zeytinne      What you dont understand dear ? You must help for the sake of helping not for the pleasure you feel after helping.    I dont know maybe Kant defend this but i dont defend it. I dont defend helping people for the sake of help. Because then you shouldn´t help the people you love or you pity. Because you will take pleasure if you help them. In this situation you should only help the people you hate or you don´t know. But this can cause a destruction in society. Because our first duty should be helping the people we love or pity. So i defend we must help others for the sake of pleasure we feel after helping. So we should be egoists. Only that way we can help who we want to help. I am defending egoism and immorality. Because they are more constructive and useful.

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4347.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Aug 2010 Mon 12:27 pm   Quoting elenagabriela so..why do you help the others...I wonder,,,    I help others because i am an egoist. I am doing it for myself to take some kind of pleasure.I think there are two kind of egoism. One is positive, one is negative. Positive one is constructive and creative, negative one is harmful and destructive. I am a positive egoist like you. And i am immoral

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4348.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Aug 2010 Mon 11:55 am   Quoting zeytinne      So you read Kant ? Kritik der reinen Vernunft ?  I started thinking about egoism after i had read Ayn Rand´s works. And these ideas came to my mind. Then i read the Will Durant´s The Story Of Philosophy. And i found Kant´s ideas about this matter.I took only this social duty term from Kant. I have never read any of Kant´s works. But i will soon. We are thinking same way i guess. But i don´t think Kant defends egoism. I am defending it. Because Ayn Rand effected me very much.   Edited (8/2/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/2/2010) by gokuyum

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4349.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Aug 2010 Mon 11:31 am   Quoting elenagabriela I dont think helping people is a kind of selfishness; I like to help..it makes me pleasure, indeed, but at the same time it keeps my mind and soul alive; think a little, please, all great discoveries were made for helping humanity; maybe one of them were made by trying to see the personal capacities of work and understanding, but in the end all were for everybody. Im very proud by myself when I can help somebody (of course, I am human being and I have my  moments of selfishness)...but when I help a smile rise on my face and Im feel so good..  You take pleasure when you help. You feel proud, you feel good, it keep your mind and soul alive. So you take pleasure. And you want to help more people because of taking this pleasure. So you are helping people for yourself. This is egoism. But as i said i don´t think egoism is always a bad thing. It can be a good thing too. But common ethics blame you of being evil(selfish) if you do something to please yourself. We must redefine ethics.   Edited (8/2/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/2/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/2/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/2/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/2/2010) by gokuyum lemon liked this message

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4350.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Aug 2010 Mon 10:38 am I think humans are evil creatures. Because i believe all of us are egoists by nature. Yes some of us help others or make favors. But i believe these are selfish acts too. Because in return we take some kind of pleasure. And this pleasure makes us more helpful. But it doesn´t make us less selfish. We help people to take this selfish pleasure. So our favors don´t depend on a moral basis but they depend on a selfish and immoral basis. A moral act must only depend to a social duty and we should not feel pleasure or anything in return of this act. Then we can say it is moral. All of us help the people we love but only a few of us help the people we hate. And it is logical but immoral because it is selfish.We take pleasure in return. We give something but we take pleasure. It is like a trade. And it is two sided. But a real moral act must be only one sided. You have to give something and get nothing in return. If you examine the people you call evil you can see they help the people they love too. So this proves helping the people you love isn´t a very high moral principal. It is very common. I want to give an example: When you give someone some money you can feel three emotions in return a) some kind of a pleasure because you like or pity that person(selfish) b)both pleasure and pain because you like or pity that person but you are now in a bad situation because you gave your money (selfish) c)only pain because you gave money because you felt you were obliged to give it because of the social duty (unselfish)   a is selfish because we take pure pleasure in return. b is also selfish because pain and pleasure balance themselves. We are bearing the pain because of the pleasure. c is unselfish because we have pain in return. We are bearing this pain because we feel it is our ethic duty. We don´t take any pleasure in return. And there is another possibility when we give money to someone and it is "not to feel" anything. It is also moral because you give but take nothing in return. It is like the Budhist or Jedi way I don´t say you "do not to help the people you love". Because i help them too. But i want you to know that this can be a selfish act according to your situation. As all of you know selfishness or egoism are evil according to our common  ethics. So we humans are evil creatures. But i believe being selfish is not an evil thing as long as you don´t harm others for your purposes. So what do you think?       Edited (8/2/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/2/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/2/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/2/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/2/2010) by gokuyum lemon liked this message

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4351.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Aug 2010 Mon 09:25 am I translated a little more too. But you should know that nobody except sometimes me translates such long poems. Make them shorter. At most 16 lines or 4 verses. I like writing poems too. Once i was writing long poems. But then i realized simplicity and shortness makes poems more beautiful and effective. And it forces you to be more creative. Just an advice Have a nice day. Edited (8/2/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/2/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/2/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/2/2010) by gokuyum Henry and elenagabriela liked this message

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4352.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Aug 2010 Mon 03:11 am   Quoting ayse-eski Very Beautiful ! I´ve been there once, but it was enough to fall in love for the city. Lucky eskiŞehir people, with such a passionate leader.Well done ! I must share this article with my friends =)      Çok güzel. Bir zamanlar orada bulundum ve bu, şehire aşık olmam için yeterliydi. Böyle tutkulu bir lidere sahip oldukları için Eskişehir halkı şanslı. Bravo. Bu makaleyi arkadaşlarımla paylaşmalıyım.

Thread: english to turkish please

4353.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Aug 2010 Mon 03:04 am   Quoting clare105 I liked the message you sent me.  More than anything i wish i was there now with you    Bana gönderdiğin mesajı beğendim. Şimdi orada yanında olmayı herşeyden çok diliyorum.

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4354.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jul 2010 Sat 04:49 am   Quoting izmir-35 its for my wedding day, and my turkish aint good enough to do this translation.. thanks so much for the 1 who can!   Life is not always easy, and it will never be, Hayat kolay değildir ve hiçbir zaman kolay olmayacaktır.  But the hard parts wont be so hard anymore, Ama zor kısımlar artık o kadar zor olmayacak  Coz every step I take in life, I will take together with you. Çünkü hayatta attığım her adımda, seni yanımda götüreceğim.  Safe and protected. Güvenli ve korunmuş olarak  With a tear and with a smile Bir damla yaş ve bir gülümsemeyle  We will make many memories. Pek çok mutlu hatıralarımız olacak  Memories we will tell our children, and our grandchildren. Çocuklarımıza, torunlarımıza anlatacak hatıralarımız.  Everyday with you is a gift,  a gift I will treasure with all my heart. Seninle her gün  bütün kalbimle saklayacağım bir hediye olacak My heart witch is filled of love for you. Senin aşkınla dolu olan kalbimle Love that will never end, Hiç bitmeyecek aşk  But what will grow bigger every day, Ama her gün büyüyecek  With every step we take, together.  Birlikte attığımız her adımda. You and me forever. Sen ve ben sonsuza dek  cok tesekkur ederim! You are welcome                 elenagabriela and ayse-eski liked this message

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4355.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jul 2010 Sat 04:41 am   Quoting ayse-eski -vay vay vay yegenım yakısır senle gurur duyuyom  -wow,wow,wow good for you i am proud of you. -saol abi bende senle gururduyuyorum  -Thank you bro. I am proud of you too. -sarı bu fotoğrafı bu ortamı özlemiştiniz seneler süren çaba sonunda olmuş bravo  -Yellow (maybe a nick name) You have missed this photo, this ambiance. An effort lasted for years... And finally it has happened.bravo.     Edited (7/31/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: english to turkish please, thanks

4356.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jul 2010 Sat 04:34 am   Quoting bryang Hi forum, thank you for your help:   Aşk kazası bu, davalı çok (this accidental love... )  This is a love accident, there are a lot of claimants.   Özlemek dostluktandır, hiç özlemedim, dostluktan ötede bulmalıyım seni.  Missing is because of friendship. I haven´t missed. I should find you further from friendship. sen gel yeter (come enough?) this has no sense to me. It is enough if you come.   reenkarnasyona inansaydım istediğim hayatı buluncaya dek intihar ederdim. If i believed reincarnation, i would commit suicide untill i find the life i want.     Edited (7/31/2010) by gokuyum

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4357.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Jul 2010 Sat 04:26 am   Quoting smaragda Hande mi yener, Funda mı arar?Hayır Seray sever... Bu üçüne önce Nejat işler sonra da Ahmet çakar. Bu geyik Celal´i Bayar...Bu geyiğe dayanamayan Ferhat göcer, yıllar sonra bunlar tarih olur, o tarihi de Gönül yazar, Mehmet okur. ......Bu mesajı 10 kişiye gönderirsen dileklerin kabul olur.Bunada Ancak Kadir İnanır...     This paragraph  doesn´t have any logical meaning. There are lots of wordplays which ones who know Turkish culture can understand. It is like a word salad.                                          AND : bitti yazdı,kızgındı,bir daha görmedim cok üzgüdü,uzülme,ben yanliş anladım,son durumu bilmiyorum,ona söyleme  bana kızar bu konuşma aramızda kalsın   He/she wrote "it is finished". He/she was angry. I haven´t see him/her since then. He/she was so sad. Don´t worry. I misunderstood. I don´t know the last situation. Don´t tell him/her. He/she can get angry to me. Let this conversation stay between us.

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4358.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Jul 2010 Fri 04:28 am   Quoting scalpel       Goku, I am wondering what makes you think that yours is better than tomac´s try?    I didn´t read all the posts. Tomac´s translation is perfect. He is a very good learner. I am a fan of him. Adios.

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4359.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jul 2010 Thu 06:07 pm   Quoting Emil Erman kanbedenler ve kaybedenler ayni mi acaba?   tesekkurler!    kanbedenler means the bodies made of blood. And there is not such a word in Turkish.

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4360.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jul 2010 Thu 06:03 pm   Quoting edith A Beautiful girl who will always be in our hearts.     thank you  Herzaman kalplerimizde olacak güzel bir kız.

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4361.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jul 2010 Thu 06:01 pm   Quoting Tulip Yolcudur abbas baglasan durmaz...aslinda gitmek istemiyorum herkesi cok ozleyecegimm   Something about not listed.. we don´t want to go?? Thank for the proper translation...    Abbas is a traveler. He doesn´t stop if you tie him. (This is a saying) (He talks about himself) Actually i don´t want to go. I will miss everyone very much.

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4362.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jul 2010 Thu 05:53 pm   Quoting xenaxena senin kafana birşey düştü sanırım   yukarda dusecek birsey yok..    I guess something fell to your head. (to come to one´s senses) (or the opposite) There is nothing above to fall. (a sarcastic answer) Edited (7/29/2010) by gokuyum Edited (7/29/2010) by gokuyum

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4363.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jul 2010 Thu 05:50 pm   Quoting bayan_güleç Selamlar! I was just wondering, in Turkish, which verb do you use to say that you posted something online? I am trying to say "Just posted today due to slow translation" Saol! ................Mary      Yavaş çeviri yüzünden bugün az önce postaladım.

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4364.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jul 2010 Thu 05:45 pm Thank you sonunda

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4365.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jul 2010 Thu 05:43 pm thank you sonunda

Thread: Turkish - English Please

4366.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jul 2010 Thu 07:41 am   Quoting amateur Please could someone translate these for my friend? Thank you in advance for any help:   ´isallah amcam hic endiselenme sen varya benim cocuk olmadan danimarkada milli takim kurcan gibi gelio 11 bebek´  God willing my uncle. Don´t worry. I guess you will form a national team in Denmark with 11 babies before i have a baby. ´du bakalim yavv amma karamsarsin cocuk dogmadan yok artik dede dicakmis bana kalsa 30 umda yaparim da bakma bende sevmeye basladim cocuklari yav hele bide bunlar hep sarisin renkli gozlu falan yaa daha bi seviom hele o kiz cocuklarini bayiliom  Hold on.You are very pessimist before the child is born. Are you kidding that he/she will call me grandfather. I would do it when i am 30 for my part. But i started to love children. And also all of them are blond and they have colored eyes. I love them more.   onlara su evimizi halledelimde isallah duzeni oturtamadik daha burda evler pahali cok hesabima gore subatta anca olursa ev alcas oda isallah yani aksilik cikmassa ondan sonra cocuk bakaris oldu aq para cok ya hepsinden bi tane aliim   God willing when we sort out our home. We couldn´t yet set an order.  Houses are very expensive here. According to my calculating we will buy a house this February. And we will buy it if God wills. I mean if no problem occurs.Then we will think about children. Oh of course, are you crazy? You talk like i have lots of money and i can buy one of each other.   du ben su 212 yi bi kokliyimda merak etgtim cok cunku sen bana daha kusadasinda solemistin ama aslinda bana hergune lasim be amcam 2 ise gidiom 2 sine parfummu dayanir karamsarim bakalim ben su 212 ye bakiim sonra kararimi veririm alirim amcam cok saolasin kendine ii davran yaz arada bi haa konusalim ben ytazmasam sen hic yazmican aq´    Hold on. Let me smell this 212. I wondered it very much because you told me that when i was in Kuşadası. But in fact i need it for every day my uncle. I go to two works. Is it possible the perfume will last for two of them? I am pessimist. Let me try this 212 and then i will decide. I will buy my uncle. Thank you very much. Behave yourself good. Write me, let´s talk sometimes.If i don´t write you will never write for god´s sake.     Edited (7/29/2010) by gokuyum Edited (7/29/2010) by gokuyum

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4367.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jul 2010 Thu 06:59 am   Quoting smaragda ´´sigarayı bırakmaya gerek yok değeğcek bi kadın yok hayatımda o zaman tam gaz devam benim tek dostum´´ AND ´´sen beni, bende affetmedim kendimi´´    There is no need to give up smoking and there is no woman worth it in my life. So i keep smoking at full speed my friend. And you didn´t forgive me and i didn´t forgive me too Edited (7/29/2010) by gokuyum Edited (7/29/2010) by gokuyum

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4368.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Jul 2010 Thu 06:55 am   Quoting xenaxena hayati dolu dolu yasamak lazim     Thanks to all !!    It is needed to live the life maximumly.

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4369.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jul 2010 Tue 11:41 pm   Quoting melek08 Thank you so much gokuyum - I am sorry I haven`t seen your reply earlier as I am in Turkey at the moment. I appreciate your kind help as always   Have a great day.    Welcome to Turkey. Hope you are having good time. elenagabriela liked this message

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4370.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jul 2010 Tue 02:52 am up

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4371.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jul 2010 Tue 02:43 am   Quoting ayse-eski  -bir insanın hayatında giderek daha fazla yer isgal edebilecek kısa, basit gözüken ama anlam dolu ifade. kendi icinde bir paradoks barındıran bir kelime. neyse, onemli degil, gecti artık, önümüze bakalım gibi umursamamak olarak tanımlayabilecegimiz bir anlam taşısa da, o neyse´yi diyenler bilirler genelde bogazdaki o dü...   -  bu ne türkçe hocan kimdi senin anlatım bozukluğu 0 dı herhal insan bi virgül koyar bari     a brief, simple looking but meaningful expression which is capable of occupying more area in a human´s life in time. A word that keeps (or include) a paradox in itself. Despite it carries a meaning like "anyways, no matter, lets look at the future" which can be defined  as "not caring about". They who say that "anyways" generally know what/that a .... in the throat. What is this? Who was your Turkish teacher? I guess his/her knowledge about expressing failure was 0. At least one would put a coma.   It was a difficult translation. I am not sure whether my translation correct or not.

Thread: turkish to English.

4372.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jul 2010 Tue 02:21 am   Quoting xenaxena ben sürpriz yumurtadan çıktım bu gece    I came out of the surprise egg tonight.

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4373.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jul 2010 Tue 02:18 am   Quoting Melike1    ordaki zamanının su gibi akacagindan eminim canım..  I am sure that your time there will pass very quickly my dear...    with "ın" your translation is correct. But without "ın" it means "I am sure that the time there will pass very quickly my dear" But your translation makes more sense. So this means the writer couldn´t express herself/himself properly.

Thread: short translation please T to Eng

4374.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jul 2010 Tue 02:10 am two possibilities for itçeği: 1) itmek - iteceği 2) içmek- içeceği

Thread: Turkish To english Thanks a lot

4375.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Jul 2010 Tue 02:06 am   Quoting deli     sana birşey danışcam.bankada benım patron 4 yıl bir firmada 4 yıl çalışmış floridada.şimdi amerikada buraya en yakın türk konsolosluğundan hizmet belgesi almam gerekiyor amerikada çalıştığını gösteren.Floridaki firmanın ismide lazımsa veririm sence new york türk konsolosluğu budur.bu konuyla ilgili olan konsolosluk; yoksa wasginton yada başka konsolosluk mudur nasıl öğrenirim.bana e-mail gönderirsen (.....) mail atarsan süreci hızlandırmam lazım.    I will ask your advice about something. my boss in the bank has worked for a firm  for four years in Florida,  I need to get a service document from the   nearest turkish consulate in America which shows that he has worked in America.I will give the firm´s name if needed which is in Florida, in your opinion is it the new york turkish consulate is this the consulate which deals with this subject , is it washington or is there another consulate. how can I find out, if you would email me(..) If you send mail I need to speed up this process       my try but wait for many corrections    I did some corrections.

Thread: Eng to Turk please - thanks in advance

4376.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jul 2010 Sun 04:48 pm I feel like an old man.

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4377.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jul 2010 Sun 02:36 am I keep going to translate it.

Thread: Eng to Turk please - thanks in advance

4378.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jul 2010 Sun 02:26 am   Quoting tomac My try as learner (but really not sure about it).   Uçuş rezervasyonu yaptım. Bunu ödemek hususundaki nazik teklifin için teşekkür ederim, ama kullanacak Thomas Cook belgelerim var. Eğer istersen, bunun yerine bana Mini Cooper´i alabilirsin!    with hususundaki it is better.

Thread: Turkish to English - Very short

4379.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jul 2010 Sun 02:20 am   Quoting Eckstein   Bir tau tau   Bizimkini barışlı bir tau - ihanet tau açık ol olacak ne zaman uluslardan kaldı - kötü olanlar bilgi teknolojisi of konuşmayacak Avrupa Hükümet için bir tau yıkımı.. Ve eğil.. Ve o batıdaki limitte benzer.    This is a google translation. It is meaningless.

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4380.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jul 2010 Sun 02:10 am   Quoting ayse-eski Hayatımızdaki en büyük şansımız. En büyük zenginliğimiz, benim en fazla gurur duyduğum şey.. aşiret olmadığımız halde bu kadar bağlı olmamız paha biçilemez.  Aşiret değiliz ama ağamız var o da ayrı konu... Dayıma saygılar    Our biggest chance in our life, our biggest richness and the thing i am mostly proud of ...to be so close to each other despite we are not a clan is priceless. We are not a clan but we have a agha, it is another matter... Respects to my uncle

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4381.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jul 2010 Sun 02:00 am   Quoting xenaxena ben özledim de ondan açtım  de means "because" here. So "i opened because i had missed"   Edited (7/25/2010) by gokuyum

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4382.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jul 2010 Sun 01:57 am   Quoting Sooree Hi I got a translation for this in an earlier topic, but I´m not sure what the person who wrote this is referring to? Or what they may mean by it ...?   Any suggestions please? Here is the sentence: Ne kötüdür insanın aklıyla yüreği arasında çaresiz kalması..Ne kötüdür an kadar ; Yakın, bir asır kadar uzak olması..Ve bilir misin..? Ne acıdır insanın bildiğini anlatamaması..Ben deyip susması, sen deyip ağlamaklı kalması..  How bad it is for a human to stay desperate between his mind and his heart. How bad it is to be near like a moment and to be far away like a century. And do you know? How painful it is for a human to not to tell what he knows.To be quiet by saying me, and to stay tearful by saying you.

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4383.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Jul 2010 Wed 12:32 am   Quoting melek08 Nights long, constant sounds of attack, A soldiers nightmare, of not returning back. "Focus, stay, focused," is the whispers in his ears, Borderline losing it, when its his wife´s voice he hears    Geceler boyu sürekli taaruz sesleri Bir askerin kabusu, geri dönmemek Odaklan,  odaklanmış kal kulaklardaki fısıltı Sınırdaki kaybediyor konsantrasyonunu, duyduğu ses  karısınınki olduğunda   Running, hiding, become daily routine, Blood shed on both sides, now a daily scene. There it is, that sweet sound, The comfort in his wife´s voice, the peace he has found.   Koşmak, saklanmak günlük rutin haline geliyor. Her iki tarafta da dökülmüş kanlar artık günlük bir manzara İşte orada, o tatlı ses, Karısının sesindeki teselli, bulduğu huzur. "Focus honey, be careful, I love you, " ringing in his head, "Everything is going to be alright, just as God said." Call unto Him, and lay your burdens aside, God is the Commander, traveling by your side.   "Odaklan tatlım, dikkatli ol, seni seviyorum" çınlıyor kafasında "Herşey yoluna girecek,tam da Tanrı´nın dediği gibi " Ona(Tanrı seslen, yüklerini kenara bırak   Tanrı senin tarafında yolculuk eden komutandır.   A smile touches his lips, as he visions her face, Standing alone in the kitchen, keeping things in place.   Bir gülüş dokunur duduklarına onun yüzünü gözünün önüne getirdiğinde Mutfakta yalnız başınayken, etrafı düzenlerken     Knees buckling, she hit the floor, Tears streaming, as she prayed once more.   Dizler bükülür, yere çarpar Yaşlar akar bir kez daha o dua ederken. "Father, please, I know there´s something wrong, My heart is now offbeat, no longer a perfect song. Keep Your hand upon him, heal what needs healing, He is scared, Lord, and his pain I am feeling. There´s not much I believe in, but I do believe in You, I do believe in miracles, and the healing that you do. Let him know I miss him, and I need him hear with me, Let him feel my heart Lord, his love is what I need. Thank you, Lord, for listening and comforting my heart, Thank you for giving us stregnth, even though we´re miles apart." Amen.  "Peder, lütfen, biliyorum bir şeyler yanlış, Kalbim şimdi ritimsiz, artık muhteşem bir şarkı değil  Elini onun üzerinde tut, iyileşmesi gerekeni iyileştir O korkmuş, Tanrım, onun acısını hissediyorum. İnandığım çok şey yok ama sana inanıyorum. Mucizelere ve iyileştirmene inanıyorum  Onu özlediğimi ve onun yanımda olmasına ihtiyacım olduğunu bilmesini istiyorum Kalbimi hissetmesini sağla Tanrım, ihtiyacım olan onun aşkı Teşekkürler Tanrım dinlediğin ve kalbimi rahatlattığın için Teşekkürler millerce ayrı olsak da bize güç verdiğin için. Amin.       As he lays there, upon the enemies soil, He remember his loving wife, and the faith she holds so loyal. He can almost feel her now, as he slowly drifts away, Blackness embraces him, and his heart hears all she has to say. Oraya uzanarak, düşman toprağına Hatırlar sevgili karısını ve  onun sadık kaldığı inancı Neredeyse şimdi hisseder onu, yavaşça akıntıya kapılırken Karanlık kucaklar onu, kalbi duyar onun tüm söylemesi gerekeni. Lightness comes from the distance, a woman dressed in white, Beauty shining within her eyes, as she reaches out tonight. Lips pursed in a smile, as she whispers I love you, DOn´t you worry honey, Our God will see you through.   Aydınlık uzaktan gelir, beyaz giyinmiş bir kadın Güzellik parlar gözlerinin içinde, bu akşam o ellerini uzatırken Bir gülüşün içinde büzüşmüş dudaklar, seni seviyorum diye fısıldarken Üzülme tatlım, Tanrımız sana yardım edecek She placed a kiss, soft and gentle to his skin, As he reached out for her,the light gone, he began to pray again. Bir öpücük kondurdu yumuşak ve nazik, tenine Onun için uzandığında, ışık gitti, yeniden dua etmeye başladı. "Father, please, my wife and I are believers, we know your name, My wife is my rock, and I dream of our children to be, I can feel her weeping Lord, I know she feels my pain, Being away from her, is driving me insane. I can hear her voice, shakey at times, Telling me she loves me and be careful, I will be just fine. Yet Lord, she has found comfort, in your embrace, Such a powerful hold you have on her, for someone who has no face. Noone has ever seen you, but it seems they feel your presence,   Baba lütfen karım ve ben inançlıyız, ismini biliriz. Karım benim kayamdır ve dünyaya gelecek çocuklarımızı düşlerim Onun ağlamasını hissedebiliyorum, biliyorum ki o da benim acımı hissediyor. Ondan ayrı olmak beni çıldırtıyor. Sesini duyabiliyorum kimi zaman titrek Bana beni sevdiğini ve dikkatli olmamı, çok iyi olacağımı söylüyor.  Yine de tanrım o senin kucaklayışında huzur buldu. Yüzü olmayan birisine göre onun üzerinde çok güçlü bir etkin var  Kimse hiç görmedi seni, ama senin varlığını hisseder görünüyorlar.    So Lord, if you can wipe away disease, and make the lame walk, I am the reason,pushing you away was simply, all my fault. I have come to realize what I was so blind to see, That you have came to my rescue, in all my times of need. I want you to know Lord, I thank you, something I never said, For being with my wife, my children, and the sinful life I led. Ve tanrım, eğer hastalığı yokedebiliyorsan ve sakatları yürütebiliyorsan Nedeni benim, seni kendimden uzaklaştırmak basitçe benim hatamdı. Farkına vardım ki görmek için çok kördüm. İhtiyaç anlarımda beni kurtarmaya geldiğini. Bilmeni isterim Tanrım, "teşekkür ederim" hiç söylemediğim bir şey Karımla, çocuklarımla birlikte olduğum ve sürdürdüğüm bu günahkar hayat için.  For if it wasn´t for you, I would of been dead long ago, So if I have to go now Lord, there´s one thing I have to know. Will I walk in Glory, will I see my Maker´s face? Will I see my wife again, in a righteous place?   Sen olmasaydın çok önceden ölmüş olurdum. Şimdi gitmek zorundaysam eğer bilmek istediğim bir şey var. İhtişam içinde yürüyecek miyim, yaratıcımın yüzünü görecek miyim? Eşimi  dürüst bir makamda görecek miyim?   I know so many questions, but I feel her pain, Can you let her know Lord, I love her just the same. That she was my rock, my best friend, The mother of my children, her powerful stregnth I commend.   Biliyorum bir çok soru ama onun acısını hissediyorum, Onun onu hala aynı şekilde sevdiğimi bilmesini sağlayabilir misin tanrım. Onun benim kayam ve en iyi arkadaşım olduğunu. Çocuklarımın annesi ve dayandığım güç olduğunu.  She is my heart and soul, she is the sparkle in my eyes, She is my hope, as the long nights slip by. (tears flooding this soldiers face) Her picture is what I hold, as I slip off to sleep, But as I drift away now, her memories I will keep. Thank You Lord, for the Angel you shared with me, Keep her in your loving embrace, for eternity.   O benim kalbimde ve ruhumda, o benim gözlerimdeki parıltı O benim umudum , geceler akıp gittikçe (yaşlar boşalıyor bu askerin yüzüne) Tuttuğum onun resmidir  uykuya dalarken  Ama ondan uzağa sürüklenirken, hatıralarını saklayacağım. Teşekkürler Tanrım, benimle paylaştığın meleğin için.  Onu sonsuza dek sevecen kucaklaman içinde tut.    Eyelids flicker, the light so bright, The commander looking down at him, "Son are you alright?" Tears flooded his vision, as God reached for him, ”It´s alright son, another chance your given”.   Gözkapakları titreşir, ışık çok parlaktır. Kumandan ona bakarak evlat iyi misin der. Yaşlar dolar görüşüne Tanrı ona uzanırken Her şey yolunda evlat bir şans daha verildi    Picking up the phone, he had to make a call, But before he could, his wife was in the hall. As the door swung open, tears in her eyes, "God told me you will be fine," choking back her cries.   Telefonu kaldırıyor, aramalıydı. Ama o arayamadan önce eşi holdeydi. Kapı kendiliğinden açılırken, gözlerinde yaşlar. "Tanrı bana iyi olacağını söyledi der tutarak hıçkırıklarını.     As she watched her husband, she could feel the presence of the Lord, Knowing with all her heart, her husband has been saved. "Thank you God, for all you´ve said and done. Kocasını izledikçe hissedebiyordu Tanrının varlığını Kocasının kurtulduğunu bilerek tüm kalbiyle. Teşekkürler tanrım söylediklerin ve yaptıkların için.        Edited (7/21/2010) by gokuyum Edited (7/25/2010) by gokuyum Edited (7/25/2010) by gokuyum Edited (7/27/2010) by gokuyum Edited (7/27/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/2/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/2/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/5/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/5/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/5/2010) by gokuyum Edited (8/5/2010) by gokuyum melek08 and elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: English to Turkish translation -- Very short! Any help is thankfull!

4384.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Jul 2010 Wed 12:19 am   Quoting chocogirl I have seen you several times, and I keep on wondering on how it would be to talk with you. I have seen your heart, you show it easily. But I am not suprised, wonderful people usually do. Please forgive me for not writing this in Kurdish. With the outmost respect xxxxx     Thanks to all that try to help!    Seni defalarca gördüm ve seninle konuşmak nasıl olurdu diye merak ediyorum. Kalbini gördüm, onu kolayca gösteriyorsun. Ama şaşırmadım, mükemmel insanlar genelde böyle yapar. Lütfen bunu Kürtçe yazmadığım için beni affet. En büyük saygıyla xxxxx

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4385.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Jul 2010 Wed 12:11 am   Quoting lady in red     what does ´da´ mean here?  da generally means too but here after a negative verb it sounds like despite.

Thread: ahmet rasim li biri

4386.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Jul 2010 Wed 12:09 am   Quoting scalpel     Ahmet Rasim is a Turkish journalist and writer. Most probably "biri" (=one) is a book person here. Ahmet Rasim (= book /a book written by him/ ) "Ahmet Rasim´li biri" => one with Ahmet Rasim /one with a book written by Ahmet Rasim This is what I can do best at the moment.

Thread: Eng to Turk - thanks

4387.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Jul 2010 Tue 11:57 pm   Quoting Suzie I will make you relax probably even fall asleep    I will make you relaxed probably (you will ) even fall asleep. Seni öyle rahatlatacağım ki muhtemelen uyuya kalacaksın. Edited (7/20/2010) by gokuyum

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4388.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Jul 2010 Tue 11:54 pm   Quoting lady in red     Despite the fact that I am not a Christian and I pay respect to Jesus, and to his image as well  this is his image I believe.  For the summer text too yes it is true I am facing against all kinds of violent actions.  As Sartre said: ´The human being´s first condition is refusing to join in a violent act indirectly or directly refuse to acknowledge it´.   My attempt but wait for corrections      her ne kadar hristiyan olmasam da İsa´ya saygı duyarım bu da onun resmi sanırım. yazı için de evet doğru şiddet eylemlerinin her türlüsüne karşıyım. Sartre´nin de dediği gibi "İnsan olmanın ilk koşulu,bir şiddet eylemine katılmayı dolaylı ya da dolaysız reddetmektir." jade_jade liked this message

Thread: t-e please

4389.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Jul 2010 Tue 11:46 pm   Quoting nitelove can someone please translate this Thanks you Lucy      dert o değil ... benim bi sorumluluk zincirim var ve biraz umursamaz o sınırlarımıza girince brbirimize zarar veririz...      biraz daha dikkatli olursun dye düşündüm ve böyle bi şey olunca dahası sen dert etmeyince biraz bozuldum   It is not the problem. I have a responsibility chain. And he is a little bit reckless. We can harm each other if he/she enters our borders. I thought you could be more careful and when something such like this happened and when you didnt care i was a little disappointed. Isin nasil bir boyutta oldugu konusunda fikrim yoktu, elbette sana zarar vermek istemiyorum bu yuzden uzak durmaya calisiyorum. Bir aile olmaya saygim sonsuz, bu nedenle bir hata yapildiysa seve seve esinden de ozur dilerdim.  I had no idea how bigger was the situation but of course i dont want to harm you. Because of this i am trying to stay away. I have an endless respect to become a family. Because of this if a mistake was made, i would apologize to your husband/wife with pleasure. Seninle iletisimimi kesmeme istegimi de senin anlayabilecegini dusunmustum. Ben kendimi sana tum acikligiyla anlatmistim cunku... Yuzumde sebepsizce beliren bir gulumsemeden kopamadim hepsi bu.. Umursamamazlik degildi tabi ki. Dert etmedigim konusundaki yorumun yanlisti.. Ben belki de sana gore kasti yazdim o dortlugu esin gorsun diye... asagidaki cumlelerin bunu gosteriyor. Uzuldum, suclayici tavrinla buz kestim, sastim kaldim ...   I thought you could understand my will to not to cut communication with you. Because i have told you myself with all my sincerity...I couldnt break off from a smile appears on my face...Of course it wasn´t an indifference. Your comment about i dont care was wrong. Maybe according to you i wrote that verse purposely so that your wife/husband would see it. Your sentences below show this. I felt bad,I was frozen by your accusing behavior. I was shocked.     Edited (7/20/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: T - E

4390.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Jul 2010 Tue 11:20 pm   Quoting burcubr bugün seni hiç olmadığı kadar düşündüm.ben sen olmayınca değerini kıymetini şimdi çok daha iyi anlıyorum.Sen benim için gerçekten inanılmaz birisin.Kimsenin seni sevmediği kadar seni seviyorum.   I think I understand but I need reassurance lol. Thanks.  I thought you today more than i had ever thought. In your absence i realise your value more. You are an amazing person for me. I love you more than anybody loves you.

Thread: Turkish -> English

4391.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2010 Fri 07:11 am   Quoting bayan_güleç     Thank you very much!   It is actually supposed to say this though, could you perhaps translate it into the proper Turkish? Thanks! I had considered myself a Christian at the end of high school, but after going to college and being influenced by false teachers, I had left Christ behind; which had lead me in the wrong direction in pretty much every aspect of my life.     Lise´nin sonunda kendimi bir Hristiyan olarak adlediyordum. Ama üniversiteye gittikten ve yanlış öğretmenlerden etkilendikten sonra beni hayatımın her yönünde hep yanlış yola sürüklemiş Mesih´i (İsa) ardımda bıraktım.   This translation is opposite of first translation. Are you sure you mean it?  Edited (7/16/2010) by gokuyum

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4392.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Jul 2010 Fri 07:05 am   Quoting ayse-eski Today I achieved a goal that I´ve been waiting for so long ! Thanks Lord!    Bugün çok uzun zamandır beklediğim bir hedefe ulaştım! Teşekkürler Tanrım!

Thread: short eng into tk please

4393.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2010 Thu 12:39 pm   Quoting Emil Erman This is to certify that XX born on the XX.XX.XXXX in Turkey is enrolled in the 1st year of study at the faculty of medicine in the accademic year xx.xx.xxxx - xx.xx.xxxx This certificate has been issued for the army, in Turkey.    Tasdik olunur ki XX.XX.XXXX tarihinde Türkiye´de doğan XX ,xx.xx.xxxx - xx.xx.xxxx akedemik yılında Tıp Fakültesi´nin ilk eğitim yılına kayıtlıdır. Bu sertifika Türkiye´deki ordu için çıkarılmıştır.     Bu sertifika  Türkiye´deki orduya gönderilmek için çıkarılmıştır. (This certificate has been issued to be sent to army in Turkey) (better)   I think you want to  postpone military duty. You can also say. "Bu sertifika TSK´ya askerlik tecili başvurusu için çıkarılmıştır" It means "this certificate has been issued for applying to TSK (Turkish Armed Forces) to postpone millitary duty." Edited (7/15/2010) by gokuyum Edited (7/15/2010) by gokuyum Edited (7/15/2010) by gokuyum Edited (7/15/2010) by gokuyum Edited (7/15/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Turkish -> English

4394.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2010 Thu 12:20 pm   Quoting bayan_güleç Selamlar! Could someone please translate this to English for me? Saol! ................................................BayanG   Lise´nin solarında kendimi hristiyan olarak tanımlıyordum, fakat üniversiteye başladıktan sonra yanlış öğretilerin etkisi ile bana hayatımın her anında defalarca yol gösterici olan Mesih i arkamda bıraktım.    At the end of high school i was defining myself as a Christian. But after i had started university,I left behind the Messiah who had showed me the way many times  by the effect of wrong doctrines

Thread: E-T Plz Help

4395.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Jul 2010 Thu 12:14 pm   Quoting Jessica Please help me with the following translations from English to Turkish : Sometimes questions are more important than answers. You see things; and you say, ´Why?´ But I dream things that never were; and I say, ´Why not?”   Thanks for help in advance.   Jessica    Bazen sorular cevaplardan daha önemlidir. Bazı şeyleri görürsün ve neden dersin. Ama ben hiç olmamış şeyleri düşlerim ve neden olmasın derim.

Thread: T to E please :D

4396.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Jul 2010 Wed 01:25 am Dilini yerler kız. (They may eat your tongue, girl) This is an idiom means your tongue is so sweet (you speak so sweet) people may want to eat it (people may be amazed of it) Edited (7/14/2010) by gokuyum Edited (7/14/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Turkish to English

4397.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Jul 2010 Wed 01:20 am   Quoting angel_of_death Hey everyone,   I heard someone use this proverb today, but I don´t really understand what it means.  Would be awesome if someone could give me the English equivalent or at least explain what it is.=)  The proverb is,   El terazi göz kantar.   Thanks in advance!    Hand is scales, eye is weigher.

Thread: Eng to Turk please - thanks in advance x

4398.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Jul 2010 Wed 01:17 am   Quoting angel_of_death     Baban nasıl?  Ameliyat nasıl geçti?  Bugün düşüncelerim seninle ve ailenleydi.   my attempt=)    correct

Thread: T to E please

4399.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Jul 2010 Wed 01:16 am   Quoting Genowefa 1- sabah güneşinde gülmeyen.Akşam güneşinde gülermi? The one who doesnt laugh in the morning sun, does he laugh in the evening sun? 2-bir omur yetermi bir sen daha bulmaya Is one life enough to find another you? 3- birliktesiniz herşeye rağmen de(ğil) mi? You are together despite everything, right? 4-diller farkli olunca ne zor oluyor anlaşmak When the languages are different  it is so difficult to communicate. 5-gel desem gelmezsin If i say come, you don´t come. 6- benden de from me too (me too) 7-devamli gelirmisin? Do you come  regularly? 8- coktan beri yoktun You have been absent for a long time 9-yazdiklarini the things you write (in accusative form) 10-bi ara bi gorüselim olurmu Lets have a talk with sometime

Thread: Something I must get off my chest!

4400.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Jul 2010 Wed 05:12 am I hate KPSS (Public Personnel Choosing Exam). It is need to become a teacher in Turkey. This will be my fourth time. Studying it taking all my time but i will be free after Saturday and i will continue translating texts and helping people here.

Thread: Please correct it if wrong!

4401.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jun 2010 Fri 06:08 pm "vermem için" and "vermek için" are both correct.

Thread: English to Turkish

4402.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jun 2010 Fri 03:48 pm   Quoting nifrtity Merhaba, It is nice to meet you on face book and it is my pleasure to be friends i hope to write your comments on my wall and help me to learn turkish. thanks    Merhaba seninle facebookta tanıştığıma sevindim ve seninle arkadaş olmak benim için bir zevk. Umarım yorumlarını benim duvarıma yazarsın ve bana Türkçe öğrenmemde yardım edersin.

Thread: E-T please thank you

4403.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jun 2010 Fri 03:45 pm   Quoting snowhite Your words soften my heart but life goes on as we know, you will always be with me in my thoughts. I will wait to hear from you regarding money. I will call you soon and speak about the apartmet.    Sözlerin kalbimi yumuşattı ama bildiğimiz üzere hayat devam ediyor. Sen her zaman düşüncelerimde benimle olacaksın.  Para konusunda senden haber bekleyeceğim. Seni yakında arayacağım ve apartman hakkında konuşacağım.    many thankls class

Thread: T to E my attempt :-)

4404.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jun 2010 Fri 03:43 pm "Daha önce konuştuk" sounds better. We like exaggerating. Edited (6/25/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Please correct it if wrong!

4405.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jun 2010 Fri 03:40 pm "ders vermem" sounds better. but "ders vermek" is also possible.

Thread: turk/eng luften :) x

4406.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Jun 2010 Fri 03:37 pm   Quoting ahalliwell canım ben de seni seviyorum da bi görüşemiyoruz cok tesekkurler to the helper    My heart (my dear) I love you too but we can´t talk(meet) once in a while. (not literal)

Thread: english to turkish please

4407.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Jun 2010 Thu 03:57 am   Quoting tomac Thank you very much! Here comes a fixed version:   En tatlı insan, hep benim rüyalarımda ve çok özleniyor / özlendi.    I am not sure but "özlenir" sounds okay to me.

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4408.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jun 2010 Tue 08:58 pm

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4409.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jun 2010 Tue 10:21 am i think you are a mentally s..k person lacking empathy. go get help and dont bother me anymore.end of discussion. Edited (6/22/2010) by gokuyum

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4410.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jun 2010 Tue 06:41 am There are people in this site learning Turkish. I appreciate them. There are also people here  for chatting. I have also no objection to it. But there is a one kind of people here who trying to seem nice to admins by making extreme comments about everything. Especially about Turkey´s culture, people and policies. They have an orientalist approach to everything about Turkey. They always criticize our culture and people and underestimate them. They always trying to teach us something without knowing anything. These people have a large numbers of posts but nearly all of them useless because they know us only by reading newspapers.And with their stupid comments they provoke us. Some can say they have Turkish friends or husbands.But it seems it isn´t enough because I see insulting comments about women in burkas without realizing their situations. I think their friends and husbands don´t tell them enough about eastern culture and eastern religions. If they told them they would know that instead of insulting poor women they should blame the men who put them into this situation. Instead of defending and supporting those poor women, the women here some of them may be claiming they are modern feminist western women, insult them without knowing anything about them. I have a problem with this kind of people. I have a problem with this kind of people that they are making fun of sad things. I have a problem with this kind of people they don´t have any knowledge. I have a problem with this kind of people that they think they know everything.  At least you should try to be useful or try to learn something. Don´t hinder people trying to do positive things. Try to improve yourselves. I read  only this year 106 books(i have a list of them) about philosophy, western culture, eastern culture, history, Turkish literature, eastern and western literature and about other subjects. But i have never acted like you like i know everything about western or eastern countries and people. I am always trying to improve myself. And i feel myself always deficient. I care about people´s experiences. I care about facts. I don´t mock people who have experiences and telling the facts. I am trying to learn something from them. I always care about writing something with facts. I am always trying to show strong sources when i am talking about something. Yes i wrote my motto as "write first, think later" But this motto performs only to my translations. I wrote it because i am caring so much about my translations and after i translated texts i always checking them for mistakes and thinking about them. I don´t want people to misunderstand something because of my translation. I always modify them. I never let them go. Because i respect people. This motto is some kind of a joke about the numbers of my modifications. But some of you are trying to use this joke about my perfectionism on my translations as a weapon against me. Some of you blame me for having a lot of time. I don´t have a lot of time. I entered two big exams this year and i am also preparing a thesis about Turkish teaching. But i also try to help people. Some says it is not an altruism because I improve my English by translating texts. First of all let me say one thing. I don´t believe such a thing like altruism. I believe human is an egoist creature and everything he/she does for egoist purposes even favors and sacrifices. I believe all actions carry an egoist motive under them. Yes i am improving my English too by translating them but i don´t need to translate them anymore. Because i chat and talk in English with a foreigner friend and it improves my English more than translating texts. So for a long time i am translating texts only for receiving thanks. I want only people´s thanks for my translations. It can be an egoist thing but it doesn´t hurt anybody. But your egoism hurts people. I know we are all egoists creatures but we have to control ourselves. If we can´t control ourselves we can harm people and harming people means harming yourself because every action has a reaction. So here is my philosophy: help people, receive thanks, improve yourself, don´t talk without proofs and support your friends when they are right. Please don´t block the sun and don´t drag me into your darkness. Bye. Edited (6/22/2010) by gokuyum Edited (6/22/2010) by gokuyum Edited (6/22/2010) by gokuyum Edited (6/22/2010) by gokuyum

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4411.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jun 2010 Tue 03:59 am   Quoting girleegirl    Give it up DD....by gok....´s logic - you don´t translate...therefore you really have no business saying anything here.        I am not here for a picnic like you.

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4412.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jun 2010 Tue 03:41 am I want to show you a private message about this perfect administration sent me at April 14 way before these arguments without giving sender´s name . Here:   I just wanted to say thank you for your help . Before you came, it was hard to get translations, some people, (even administrators) were rude about translating, and one member even told me, "Why don´t you ask your Turkish friends who wrote it what it means!!" or "seriously, you could have sent them an offline message". All I wanted was translation if someone wanted to do it, you know? If they don´t want to , then they don´t need to look at my posts. So I gave up for a while but I´m happy and grateful for your help, and I really do appreciate your help so much, have a wonderful day/night!     I think the admins have been always rude. Edited (6/22/2010) by gokuyum Edited (6/22/2010) by gokuyum Edited (6/22/2010) by gokuyum

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4413.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jun 2010 Tue 03:24 am   Quoting Daydreamer Is it a slave logic to enjoy a site where everyone´s entitled to their opinion instead of being bullied by folks who believe theirs is the only way? If so, count me in And what kind of obedience are you talking to? You do realise it´s the Internet, not an alternative universe, or alter-life? It´s a website, there are bazillion other websites and it´s up to you to visit them or not. You like a website, you read it, you don´t like it, you´re free to go and not even bother to wave bye-bye.   What I like about this one is that there are lots of people whose sense of humour, opinions and points of view are different from mine and they are still free to express them. You don´t like it and this is where we differ. You want this website to be run with more censorship - I don´t. I think everything goes as long as you keep your language civilised.   And you misunderstood me, I meant other sites are run more strictly, which you fail to notice and which I like about it. I wouldn´t like to see this one give in to bullies like your friend This site gives you lots of freedom of expression and you get offended when people use this right. You sound illogical    There can be many sites but i have been here for three months and i have friends here. And i labored to this site. I want only a fair administration. You say spritzer is a bully. Why? Because she defended those poor women wearing burkas against their will but just to survive in Afghanistan. Your admins made fun of them. Because they are perfect westerners and those poor women are primitive creatures trying to get education. This made spritzer mad. Because she was in Afghanistan and witnessed how men treated these women so badly. This misbehaviour effected spritzer badly. And when she saw such a picture with a mocking title in the profile of elisabeth she warned her to be more responsible because she was an admin from now on. But elisabeth as being such a wonderful creature refused her and started to mock and provoke her with her gang members and finally deleted her. So who is bully here? According to you, admins are people who have a great sense of humor, but according to me they are people like spritzer defined them. If you want to teach me a lesson please become a humanist person and then come back . I have no business with monsters. Edited (6/22/2010) by gokuyum

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4414.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jun 2010 Tue 01:11 am   Quoting mylo   Also used as ´do you know what I mean?´      I don´t know such a meaning mylo. Please give an example.

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4415.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jun 2010 Tue 01:02 am   Quoting Daydreamer I think this site is democratic - your problem is that it is not Gokuyumcratic or Spritzercratic. here everybody is free to express their opinions. You don´t have to like them which apparently is your biggest issue. Just so you know, democratic means respecting all points of view, even if you don´t agree with them. It doesn´t mean insulting people because they post something you don´t like.   The Admins and mods here are doing a great job and I admire them for trying to explain their decisions although they do not need to do that. I have no idea what other forums you use, but from what I´ve observed, most of discussion boards are more strict when it comes to moderation and it´s not allowed to question mods decisions. Look what´s going on here - you´ve been moaning and whinging about your friend´s deletion and the mods are still taking time to reply to you instead of deleting your posts. Ok, we get it - your not happy. now get over it!    Wow you sound like they should have administrated this site with an iron fist and i should be grateful because they are not doing this. This is a slave logic. Don´t expect me such an unworthy obedience. I am not like you. Edited (6/22/2010) by gokuyum

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4416.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jun 2010 Tue 12:57 am   Quoting melek08 Deployment Prayer Dear Lord: Give me the strength to say goodbye. Hold back the tear in my eye. Cure my insomnia so that I may sleep alone. Give me a reason to awake when I’ve none.    Sevgili Rabbim:   Bana elveda demek için güç ver. Gözümdeki yaşı zaptet. Uykusuzluk hastalığımı iyileştir ki yalnız başıma uyuyabileyim. Hiç bir nedenim yokken bana uyanmak için bir neden ver. Dear Lord: Please help me pace myself. Allow me to turn to you for help, And please let me be strong for him, Even if I’ve reached the brim.    Sevgili Rabbim: Kendimi yatıştırmama lütfen yardımcı ol. Sana yardım için dönmeme izin ver. Ve lütfen beni onun için güçlü kıl. Her ne kadar sınıra gelmiş olsam da.  Dear Lord: Please make time go fast. I don’t know how long I can last. This is the hardest time of my life, But this is my job: the soldier’s wife.    Sevgili Rabbim: Lütfen zamanın hızlı akmasını sağla. Ne kadar dayanabileceğimi bilmiyorum. Bu hayatımın en zor zamanı ama bu benim işim : asker eşi  Dear Lord: Let them all stay strong. Give them the will to go on, And Lord, Please bring back all our men. In the name of our country. Amen.    Sevgili Rabbim Onlar güçlü kalsın. Onlara devam etme azmi ver. Ve Rabbim,lütfen tüm erkeklerimizi geri getir. Ülkemiz adına. Amin.

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4417.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jun 2010 Tue 12:38 am Ok go on talking and deleting people. I will go on translating and helping people. I also want to say I appreciate other translators and I don´t claim I am the best of them. Maybe I am the worst of them. But at least i am trying to do positive things like helping people. But there are some people here that their only job is doing negative things like provoking and deleting people. Some of the translators see this and they also criticize you. Look at also scalpel´s and turkish cobra´s criticisms. You are administrating this site undemocratically and some people criticize. Instead of correcting your behaviors you are attacking people blaming them of being ungrateful. You can´t stand any criticism. So please let me alone and don´t bother me. (By the way i will continue to criticize you until you change this undemocratic administration to a democratic one.) Edited (6/22/2010) by gokuyum

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4418.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Jun 2010 Tue 12:21 am Edited (6/22/2010) by gokuyum Edited (6/28/2010) by gokuyum

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4419.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Jun 2010 Mon 06:18 am   Quoting Elisabeth gokuyum, with all due respect for your translating, I don´t get paid anything to read thru forum after forum of the same people complaining, regularly getting cursed at and having to settle disagreements.  I agreed to be an administrator of this site because I love it and have been here many years.  I have seen many friends come and go but I have still remained and always enjoyed it.  I occasionally find new friends to share the features of this site with.  I wish the same for you.  Hopefully, the individuals that you translate for appreciate your time and effort.    Oh excuse me elisabeth.By reading my comments and answering them you are at least doing something useful. You could be bored by doing nothing here but provoking and kicking people out. But I want to remind you don´t have to read and answer them. You can go on provoking and kicking people out if that pleases you. I have no objection. Have a nice day.

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4420.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Jun 2010 Mon 04:50 am   Quoting libertad778 Rakı olmasın Şarap olmasın Madem sen yoksun kafam olmasın Gündüz olmasın Gece olamasın Madem sen yoksun Günler akmasın Sensiz nasılım bak bana Gel de bir çorba yap bana Madem öldürdün Akbaba olmasın Akbaba olmasın Akraba olmasın Eğer sen yoksan kimsem olmasın N´olur olmasın!  Let there be no rakı Let there be no wine As you are absent, let there be not my head Let there be no  day Let there be no night As you are absent Let the days not flow Without you how am I? Look at me. Come and make me a soup. As you killed me Let there be no vulture. Let there be no vulture. Let there be no vulture. If you are absent, let me have not anybody Please let me have not.

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4421.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Jun 2010 Mon 04:41 am   Quoting melek08 Çok sağol Gokuyum - çok az kaldı şimdi Harikasin!    I finished it.

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4422.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Jun 2010 Mon 04:35 am   Quoting girleegirl My god what a bunch of whiners!!!  If you think it´s so easy to run a website by all means.....    Girleegirl running a site can be difficult. But what about translating a text? Sometimes it can be a nightmare translating a text. And I am translating here a lot of texts. I endeavor without expecting anything more than a thank you and a little respect. But what are you doing? You try to mock me and support admins who deleted my best friend. I lose my enthusiasm because of people like you. Yes they administer this site but I translate texts freely. They are not my bosses. I can criticize them the way i want.

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4423.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Jun 2010 Mon 04:24 am   Quoting tomac Maybe it should be "seksisin" ?   seksisin, arkadaşın varsa çok sanslı You are sexy, if you have a friend then he is very lucky. (my try)  correct

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4424.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jun 2010 Sat 07:18 pm   Quoting SweetKisses Can anyone kindly translate this for me please. yörü len biladir. Many thanks    It also can have a positive meaning according to context like "go on brother (I support you)"

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4425.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Jun 2010 Sat 02:57 am   Quoting scalpel poor gokuyum and turkishcobra, you two are too easy for them...you´d better shut up and get back to translation section.    I don´t need to deal with them. I met here with spritzer. And it is enough for me. I have no reasons to stay here. But i like helping people and receiving thanks. So i will go on helping them until admins kick me out. Nobody here pays me money or something. I also don´t have a contract with TC. The gang members are also happy. Most of them never translate but always talk and delete us. They are also not democratic. So everything seems fine according to our standards. We couldn´t do it please conquer this site for us.First I will support you and then stab you in the back. Have a nice day. Edited (6/19/2010) by gokuyum Edited (6/19/2010) by gokuyum Edited (6/19/2010) by gokuyum

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4426.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jun 2010 Fri 09:19 pm   Quoting melek08 Cherished are the memories that Brought us to this day, For yesterday, was just a dream ... A wish to contemplate.   Değer verilmiş olan bizi bugüne getirmiş olan hatıralardır.  Dün için yalnızca bir rüyaydı... Gerçekleşmesi niyet edilen bir dilek.   A fantasy where in my mind, A fleeting glimpse I´d see ... A vision of the true desires I longed for endlessly.   Bir fantezi zihinde Kısa bir görüş görülmek istenen.. Gerçek arzuların kısa bir vizyonu Sonuza dek özlemini duydu(ğu)m And when I dreamed, I did not know The love I´d feel today; The height of my true feelings, And the depths they would portray.   Hayal kurduğumda bilmiyordum Bugün hissedeceğim aşkı. Gerçek duygularımın yüksekliğini Ve tasvir edecekleri derinliği And if I had one wish today, A simple wish t´would be ... Is that the love we feel this moment, Lasts eternally.   Bugün son bir dileğim olsa Bir basit dilek olurdu... Şu an hissettiğimiz aşkın Sonsuza dek sürmesi. Reality has merged now As you stand here by my side; And as I join your hand in mine, My heart does fill with pride. Gerçeklik birleşti şimdi Burada benim yanımda dururken Senin elini benimkine birleştirirken Kalbim gururla dolar. For as I pledge my love to you, I see in many ways, Reflections of my love for you Are mirrored in your gaze. Aşkımı sana rehin verirken Bir çok şekilde görüyorum Sana olan aşkımın yansımalarını Yansıtılmış olan dik bakışında And by our presence here today, And for the love we share, I thank you for our yesterdays That brought us to be here. Ve bugün burada varlığınla Ve paylaştığımız aşk için Teşekkür ederim sana dünler için Bizi buraya getirmiş olan. But more than this, I vow to you, My wishes yet to come ... Tomorrow´s dreams and fantasies, This day that we are one. Bundan fazla olarak yemin ederim sana Dileklerim gerçekleşecek Bugünün hayalleri ve fantezileri O gün ki  biz biriz. Tomorrow´s an adventure That we´ll share together now; Our future´s intertwined forever, Through this holy vow. Yarın bir maceradır Ki paylaşacağız onu şimdi birlikte Geleceğimiz birbirine geçmiş sonsuza dek Bu kutsal yeminle. I promise to remember In the future years and days, The love I feel for you this moment ... ... Dreams fulfilled today. Söz veririm hatırlamaya Gelecekte yılları ve günleri Şu anda san hissttiğim aşkı... ....Bugün gerçekleşmiş rüyaları. For in the coming years as we Move on, and reminisce, Back to the day I stood with you And promised with a kiss ...   Çünkü gelen yıllarda biz İlerledikçe ve hatırları andıkça Geriye doğru seninle birlikte durduğum Ve bir öpücükle söz verdiğim güne    That blessed are the days that I have looked into your eyes, And felt the warmth and love reflect, The essence of our lives.   Şu kutsanmış günlerdir ki Gözlerinin içine baktım Ve yansıyan sıcaklığı ve aşkı hissettim  Hayatlarımızın özünü ***** Yesterday we dreamed of what might be; Today we validate our love; And tomorrow we will cherish the life we have shared as one.  Dün birlikte ne olabileceğini hayal ettik Bugün aşkımızı  gerçekleştiriyoruz Yarın  bir olarak paylaştığımız hayatı yaşatacağız.    I will continue to translate if the administration doesn´t kick me out. Edited (6/18/2010) by gokuyum Edited (6/19/2010) by gokuyum Edited (6/21/2010) by gokuyum

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4427.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jun 2010 Fri 09:13 pm   Quoting yilgun-2010 AŞK, EVLİLİK VE HAYAT PAHALILIĞI Love, Marriage and The Expensiveness of Life Aşk güzel şeydir. Ancak, sadece aşk karın doyurmaz. Çünkü evlilik önemli bir kurumdur. Evlilik öncesi, öncelikle arkadaşınızın aile yapısInı araştırmanız ve incelemeniz gerekir.   Love is a beautiful thing. But love doesn´t fill your stomach. Because marriage is an important  foundation. Before marriage it is necessary to search and examine the structure  of your friend´s family  Arkadaşınızın aile geleneği ve yapısı çok önemlidir. Aile yapısı nasıldır? Arkadaşınızın ailesi sağlam ahlaki ve sosyal temellere dayalı  ise o zaman evlenmeniz tavsiye edilir. Hayat pahalılığına gelince: Gerçekten hayat pahalıdır.   The tradition and the structure of your friend´s family is very important. How is her/his family´s structure? If your friend´s family depends on strong ethic and social grounds then it is advised to get married. When we come to the matter of   the expensiveness of life: Life is really expensive.  Dünya nüfusunun kontrolsüz ve akıl dışı bu kadar artması hayatın pahalı hale gelmesine neden  oldu. Bir Türk atasözü  vardır: “İki çıplak bir hamama yakışır” Fakat evlilik için öyle fazla paraya ihtiyaç yoktur. Güçlü bir aile  yapısı, inanç, anlayış  ve yeterli miktarda  aylık gelir evlenmek için yeterlidir.   The Increase of the population of the world blindly and without control has made the life more expensive. There is a Turkish saying: "Two naked people suit to a Turkish bath." But for marriage there is no need for so much money.  A strong family structure, faith, understanding and enough amount of monthly income are enough for marrying.

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4428.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jun 2010 Fri 08:56 pm   Quoting Chantilly~ "İNSAN OĞLU HİLEKARDIR KİMSE BİLMEZ FENDİNİ, KİME İYİLİK YAPARSAN ONDAN KOLLA KENDİNİ. . . !"   Teşekkürler!!!!    The human being is a trickster, nobody knows his/her trick. You fend yourself from one who you made a favor. Edited (6/18/2010) by gokuyum

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4429.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jun 2010 Fri 08:49 pm   Quoting tomac My attempt as learner (not sure if it is correct):   Bu defa söyleyeceğin bir şey var mı ? Neyse, sen kimsin ?  Bu arada sounds better than neyse.   tomac liked this message

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4430.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jun 2010 Fri 08:44 pm   Quoting deli Ne dediysem bir bir hepsi çıktılar Üzerimden güldü geçti martılar Bu aşk böyle yürümez sandım,içime kapandım Soğudum,soğudum,soğudum,ısıttı şarkılar what I said they all came true one by one seagulls smiled  passed above me I thought this love is not moving forward like this I withdrew into myself I became cold, became cold, the songs warmed me.   Oldum olası sevmez kalbim matemi My heart has never liked the mourning Hiç gerek yok suç sende mi,bende mi? It is not necessary whether you are or I am guilty Bu aşk böyle yürümez sandım,içime kapandım Sevmenin adaleti yokmuş anladım I thought this love is not moving forward like this I withdrew into myself I realized that there has been no justice of loving  Gelme istemezsen Yorgun düştüm yüreğim sana kırgın İnandır bu son olmayacaksa Gelme istemem   Dont come if you dont want to I was tired out, my heart is offended by you Make me believe if this wont be the end,   dont come I dont want Ne dediysem bir bir hepsi çıktılar Üzerimden güldü geçti martılar Bu aşk böyle yürümez sandım,içime kapandım Soğudum,soğudum,soğudum,ısıttı şarkılar Oldum olası sevmez kalbim matemi Hiç gerek yok suç sende mi,bende mi? Gözlerinden güneş çaldım,hep sana uyandım I stole always the sun from your eyes, I always woke up to you  Sevmenin asaleti buymuş anladım This has been the nobleness of loving, i realised it. Gelme istemezsen Yorgun düştüm yüreğim sana kırgın İnandır bu son olmayacaksa Gelme istemem

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4431.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jun 2010 Fri 08:30 pm   Quoting ayse-eski dünya döner tek bir yana(aşk) doğsun diye gün bir daha , bende döndüm tekrar sana (aşk) sönmek için yanayana    World turns to a side to be a day born again, i turned again to you (love), to be extinguished by keeping burning.

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4432.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jun 2010 Fri 07:09 pm Two headed dog is mythical animal from her shit flowers opens. And i didnt mean a bad thing. I wanted to say your words are like flowers. OK?

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4433.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jun 2010 Fri 07:00 pm stumpy and lady in red you dont deserve my answers. Improve yourselves and come back again. I agree spritzer about you. Edited (6/18/2010) by gokuyum Edited (6/18/2010) by gokuyum

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4434.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jun 2010 Fri 06:52 pm I have been never rude like you. You are not an innocent victim. Your rude words prove it.

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4435.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jun 2010 Fri 06:41 pm   Quoting stumpy by the way goyukum freedome of speech is for everyone not just a select few, so I will say to you what I said to spritzer, eat your own dog food, it´s means put into practice what you preach!   you speak of freedome of speach but it seems that for you the definition of freedome of speach is acceptable only if the opinions agree with yours!   good job!    What authority gives you such a right to talk to me like this way?

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4436.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jun 2010 Fri 06:28 pm    FREEDOM OF SPEECH FOREVER   gokuyum 5:10 pm     stumpy she has never wished you dead. Don´t be such a drama queen. If you have any proof then prove it. Don´t talk with empty words and baseless accusations. Once you were such good friends. What happened? Have you decided to find favor in administration sight? All of a sudden what is you anger to spritzer/paramedic? Last modified:5:11 pm stumpy Jun 17    turkishcobra,   You say it is not fair to kick a user off the website and delete their account. Is it fair that that person wishes the death of someone? Is it fair that that person treats others like a sub class of humanity? Is it fair that that person tries to use brute force the get a point across? I find that it is not fair.   Some TC members have not lived or or not living in countries where dayly conflicts occure. And to have someone try to impose their moralety upon others is not fair in my point of view. That is what certain members were doing when they were warned time and time again to respect others and be respectfull.   I would never say that my opinions or moralety is better than yours and I would not force it upon you or anyone else. So why is it that certain members cannot have the same respect?   turkishcobra Jun 17    Wasn´t this website for learning Turkish? How can all these political, endless and ´provocative´ discussions help people to learn and develop Turkish; since all these discussions are not in TURKISH? The topics that you have been discussing about (Armenian and Kurdish issues) are very very sensetive topics and how can you deny all these reactions? You are touching to the most sensitive points of people and when they react you kick them out of the website and deleting their accounts. This is not fair; I invite everybody to stop talking about such sensitive topics! Or get ready for extreme reactions! Last modified:Jun 17 Response by thehandsom 10:44 pm     I explained "why do we need to talk about these topics" in the first column of the series:   So in my opinion talking openly about the subject of Armenians will have a direct impact on pushing Turkey towards becoming a real democratic state..   It is not only just about learning some facts but also it is necessary for other ethnic-religious groups in Turkey. We can not afford another incident like this. We have to be in peace with our past. Being in peace with our history will have a positive aspect of becoming a better democratic state. All those variations in our society, all those different ethnic groups are our richness. Why do we need to deprive ourselves from this treasure?So, we will talk about this issue from with the aim and perspective of creating a better Turkey..   lady in red Jun 17     Gokuyum: repeat message from my last post:   ´AND BY THE WAY - IN CASE IT´S ESCAPED YOUR ATTENTION - I HAVEN´T BEEN AN ADMIN ON THIS SITE FOR OVER TWO MONTHS NOW´.   I am so sorry you find the administrators of this site so undemocratic - the strange thing is that no matter how much people complain (and trust me you are by far and away from being the first and certainly won´t be the last), no-one else actually seriously wants to do the job. I wonder why that is?       Last modified:Jun 17 gokuyum Jun 17    Handsome talking is another thing and making an agreement is another thing. Because a written agreement means our government recognizes PKK as a representative of Kurdish people. And saying this without a proof is a provocation. So i don1t need to apologize. If you can prove a written agreement exist i will apologize.   Response by thehandsom 10:35 pm     Ha ha I dont think you believe what you are saying. You got to be kidding me.. It is the head of MIT; appointed by the PM; PM is not denying it.. Will the copy of that agreement do or you need the original? You owe an apology!! Instead of marching up and down and trying to protect other people´s rights, you should show the grace and accept it.. Say it: "SORRY. I DID NOT KNOW IT" Last modified:10:38 pm gokuyum Jun 17 + - Report Gang exists. And some other people can see it too. I am not dreaming.I protest you and your undemocratic administration.   lady in red Jun 17 + - Report I didn´t realise you and spritzer were a ´team´. Spritzer was rude, offensive and insulting to many members both in the forums and in the chat room and also to the owner of the site (not talking about just in the forums here). Being ´wise and charming´ is no excuse for behaving in this way. She clearly indicated her contempt for other tc members and finally enough was obviously enough and she was deleted.   Returning as Paramedic, it was immediately clear who she was but no comment was made until she ´started up´ again and thus - in line with forum rules - was deleted. As for being ´provoked by admin´ - as ´spritzer´ I think it was more a case of taking her down a peg or two than provoking her - that young lady is clearly very fond of the sound of her own voice - and as paramedic I can see no evidence of any dialogue between her and any of the admin team apart from Sonunda´s warning to her about personal comments made in her little campaign to belittle barba_mama (which predictably enough got a rude reply).   And by the way - in case it´s escaped your attention - I haven´t been an admin on this site for over two months now.   Oh - and I just noticed you mentioning ´the gang´ again - DOESN´T EXIST!!! Last modified:Jun 17 lady in red Jun 17 + - Report Thank you TC and Stumpy - I was clearly focussing on the other meaning of ´commended´!   gokuyum Jun 17 + - Report Lady in red as you said she is a wonderful human being and very smart. I adore her because of these. She is not also smart but she is also wise. Only thing in this world charms me is wisdom. She tried to share her wisdom with you.But you refused her rudely. And you waited for an excuse to delete her. So you gave her such an impression that you don´t care about wisdom, facts and experiences. And you only care for your little gang. As much as you provoked her she used harsh words against you. When i am provoked i can use harsh words too. I said handsome "you are a poisonous snake" because he said our government has made an agreement with PKK. You know PKK killed thousand of innocent people even Kurds and saying our government has made an agreement with PKK without any proof is a provocation. If you provoke a person, he/she can say bad words. You should first stop provocation. If there is a provocation you can´t blame only one side. This is a double standard. But it is so sad witnessing admins provoking a person and kicking her out because of her harsh reaction. I find this site very helpful. I like helping people. I met with wonderful people here. But this kind of administration extinguishes all my enthusiasm. You are like Israeli soldiers who board on a ship in international waters and when people don´t welcome them and react against them they kill them and say they started it. But they are the provokers boarding on a ship in international waters. Your behavior is like theirs. You never accept you are wrong and never excuse. You are never trying to stop provocation. Then don´t blame me and spritzer. Last modified:Jun 17 Response by thehandsom Jun 17 + - Report Off..what is the provocation here? You get provoked because I said ´our government is talking to PKK´? Phew!! Why are you not blaming your incapacity about the subject?   -http://www.taraf.com.tr/haber/muzakere-yok-temas-var.htm (this is a news article in Turkish: according to some PKK leaders, there is contact with the governement) -http://www.radikal.com.tr/Radikal.aspx?aType=RadikalDetay&ArticleID=1002665&Date=15.06.2010&CategoryID=77 (acording to Talabani -the president of Iraq-;PKK leader Apo, did send Talabani a message and Talabani passed the ´requests´ to MIT. And he asked Erdogan if he knew the contact between MIT and PKK..Erdogan says YES) -http://www.taraf.com.tr/haber/mit-mustesari-apo-yla-gorusmus.htm (Turkish news, from the Turkish prosecuters: Head of MIT had a meeting with Apo about a cease fire)   So are you going to come up and apologise like a decent person and say ´sorry..I did not know´? Last modified:Jun 17   turkishcobra Jun 17 + - Report Let the fox guard the henhouse!   Now, you got it, LIR? Last modified:Jun 17 stumpy Jun 17 + - Report Lambs were commended to wolves means that innocents were sacrificed   lady in red Jun 17 + - Report ´Lambs were commended to wolves in this website!!´   I don´t understand what this means? lady in red Jun 17 + - Report To Gokuyum:   Firstly - this ´gang´ that you seem totally obsessed with simply does not exist. Secondly I think your adoration of paramedic/spritzer is ill-placed. Maybe your English is not good enough for you to see from her posts what an intrinsically self-important, self-righteous and generally ´un-charming´ person´ she really is. Yes, I am sure she has opinions and ideas like everyone on the site and maybe underneath it all she´s just a ´wonderful human being´ - but most people on the site (that´s MOST PEOPLE)are able to express themselves in a less aggressive, sneering, unpleasant manner. In my opinion it´s her general unpleasantness that got her deleted not her views. Last modified:Jun 17   turkishcobra Jun 17 + - Report Lambs were commended to wolves in this website!! gokuyum Jun 17 + - Report (-3) why did you kick out paramedic/spritzer again? Congratulations to you and your gang.if you consider what is written in other post this is mild and very ethical she is just merely pointing out the facts (she thinks so) Last modified:Jun 17   catwoman Jun 17 + - Report (-1) I have removed one comment of Paramedic due to extreme nastiness, and I have deleted her account for returning to the site and continuing to violate the site rules. stumpy Jun 16 + - Report (+1) no wonder you were banned as spritzer. you are a self righteous know it all and the only opinion that matters is yours!   Paramedic Jun 16 + - Report STUMPY GO WATCH TV YOU ARE TO ARE NOT BRIGHT ENOUGH TO RESPOND TO ANY FURTHER stumpy Jun 16 + - Report and by the way: I would like to know who you are plunking to be able to write these little blurbs. You sound like either a latent history teacher who no one will listen to and because of this you must inundate this sight with all your prepared lessons, or perhaps a wannabe journalist and no one wants your articles. Who are you angry at that you need to write all of this on a mundane site where only perhaps 3% can actually understand the moral and pragmatic issues of politics. You should be writing this somewhere else   this is not a comment on the post but on the writer and why he is permitted to post blurps as you put it!   stumpy Jun 16 + - Report hum and you call me a coward, at least I do not attack you personally, just some of your opinions and ways of thinking! Oh and nice shot attacking my heart condition and blaming my eating habbits, good one! Points to you little miss perfect! Last modified:Jun 16 Paramedic Jun 16 + - Report Stumpy you are a coward to try to bring others to this argument first - my comment was regarding the article but you blindly directed your opinions to me instead of the article written ( do you have a opinion perhaps a pragmatic or zeitgeist suggestion for fixing - awww come on give us your opionions on the articles - secondly you contradicted yourself - thirdly from what I read about your posts you have nothing but gobbly gook to offer and forth you have no idea what I think. I will blame your blatant ignorant attitude and behavior on you heart medication and condition. Perhaps you should spend your time learning how to eat properly so that your arteries are not so clogged up eh!   oh and please learn to spell it makes you seem so .......... Last modified:Jun 16   stumpy Jun 16 + - Report I see you edited you earlier post, what is wrong? are you affrad of reprisals?   here is your original post that you so kindly modefied: Je crois que vous êtes vraiment pas de valeur l´effort. Il ressemblerait au fait de donner un coup de pied à un homme muet sourd aveugle sans jambes. Allez ailleurs à la pisse s´il vous plaît que je ne m´intéresse pas à que vous devez dire stumpy Jun 16 + - Report By the way here is the translation of what paramedic wrote in French: I think you´re really not worth the effort. It would be like in giving a kick to a blind deaf mute man without legs. Go elsewhere to piss please I´m not interested in that you say   If this is what she thinks of me an my opinions just imagine what she thinks of the opinions of others.   stumpy Jun 16 + - Report if you want to insult me in my native tongue please use something else that google translate.   thank you for the laught! stumpy Jun 16 + - Report no need too paramedic, or should I say spritzer. I have a life! contrary to you. Doesn´t the army keep you busy enought? And if you want a fight go right ahead, you may be the one being run up a tree abnd down the other side. You want to play dirty I can play dirty. It seems that you are the only one who can post comments and insult people well sorry girl, life´s a bitch then you meet me!   And for your information if I want to take thehamdsom´s side I can. Last time I checked we were living in a free country and we could make our own decisions.   You want a pm for this, well sorry cannot oblidge because you go around doing to others what you want me to do in private to you.   Why don´t you eat your own dog food and pm me personally if you want a fight!   Paramedic Jun 16 + - Report by the way if handsome had an issue with this he would let me know so you going around tying up other peoples shoe laces is not needed GET A LIFE!! I have already discussed with handsome my thoughts privately and he has no concern if you want to fight with me bring it on girl because I will run you up a tree and down the other side but do in in private sent me a pm as I don´t need an audience for this. Last modified:Jun 16 stumpy Jun 16 + - Report (+1) Hum! Nice, straight for the juggular. I was commenting on your "attack" on thehandsome.   And maybe you should, instead of looking for threads that you could use for confrontations, post something that is worth while and maybe bring us something that would enrich us intellectualy and challendge us, instead of putting others down.   And by the way, who said I support them. I rather want to know both sides and my opinions or judgment is my own and no one elses. I want to share I will share if not I keep it to myself.   You are in no way to put words in my mouth or ideas in my head. Find someone else than me to try and "convert" to your opinions. Last modified:Jun 16   Paramedic Jun 16 + - Report yes I can see the reason why you are not in the 3% because if you actually read what these articles are about you just blew a hole in your own support of them Last modified:Jun 16 stumpy Jun 16 + - Report I saw the movie but like everything there are 2 sides to the story. the movie is one side of the story.   And you have not answered my question, I am not inthe 3% of what? Last modified:Jun 16   Paramedic Jun 16 + - Report there was a movie I saw called Ararat maybe you should watch it stumpy will give you a gist of what this is all about http://www.movies-links.tv/movies/ararat/ stumpy Jun 16 + - Report pardon my ignorance but 3% of what?   Paramedic Jun 16 + - Report haha good post stumpy tells me you are not in the 3% stumpy Jun 16 + - Report (+1) It saddens me to see that it is the writer that is "accused" of paying someone to post. It is like calling someone stupid for not having the same point of view as us.   thehandsome is intitle like everyone else to post on this site.   We may not agree or have the same opinions as him or anybody else but we are not intitled comment on the person but rather on his or her posting. When commenting on a person directly it can be seen as slander.   Mudslinging is a cowardly and weak attempt of trying to get our point of view across.   If soemone has a problem with what is written, then comment on what is written, bring opposing views and facts and let the people decide.   Do you have facts and prouf of what was done during the events mentionned in the post to either prouve or disprouve what was done? If so, please post them to enlighted us. Last modified:Jun 16   thehandsom Jun 16 + - Report (+1) what is wrong writing these little blurbs? Paramedic Jun 16 + - Report the meaning of plunking as: to pay out meaning paying off to write this on this site!   stumpy Jun 16 + - Report Paramedic,   What is your comment, is it about what is written or the writer? And plunking, what do you mean? You comment seams more like a statement saying "who are you f´ing to post here"   Looks like you are going straight on the attack here! Paramedic Jun 16     I would like to know who you are plunking to be able to write these little blurbs. You sound like either a latent history teacher who no one will listen to and because of this you must inundate this sight with all your prepared lessons, or perhaps a wannabe journalist and no one wants your articles. Who are you angry at that you need to write all of this on a mundane site where only perhaps 3% can actually understand the moral and pragmatic issues of politics. You should be writing this somewhere else Last modified:Jun 16   metehan2001 Jun 15     If you want to learn the truth and the real history about Armenian Issue, you can read the scholarly studies written by eminent foreign and Turkish historians on the following link:   http://www.ataa.org/reference/ thehandsom Jun 14     Si++ Ottoman government says that during WW1 800.000 Armenians lost their lives. Any source? Where did you get it from?   Acording to the War Crimes Committee formed by the Ottoman Interior Ministry after the war under the direction of Mustafa Arif Deymer, the number of Armenian victims was 800,000 (Vakit newspaper, March 15, 1919). The Army Chief of Staff indicated in a 1928 document that ?The Eastern Provinces of Anatolia lost 500,000 Moslems during the war; another 800,000 Armenians and 200,000 Greeks died due to massacres and deportations.? (Hikmet Bayur, Turk Inkilap Tarihi, v. 3, part 4, Ankara, Turk Tarih Kurumu Yayinlari, 1991, page 787). Last modified:Jun 14   si++ Jun 12     Hansom,   Is this the last of your series or are you going to continue?   The all 3 so far do not seem complete to me. Your start was not OK. I don´t think you have covered all the reasons which lead to those tragic event.   And what is your conclusion? Was it a genocide or not (in your opinion)? I think you are aware of the UN definition 1948 for genocide, right? Be clear. si++ Jun 12     Hansom said: "ps..I remember si++ was saying that no Ottoman officials were found guilty in the trials..   But according to the Official Gazette (Takvim-i-Vekayi),No. 3604.   "Their guilt has been determined by a unanimous vote ..... Talaat, Enver, Djemal and Dr. Nazim are sentenced to death" at July 5, 1919.."   I had said: "Did they know that the courts took place (Malta & Istanbul) and the Ottoman officials were found not guilty? English courts worked hard to find a guilty but no one was found"   I was talking about Malta courts.   Now, if you will cite a gazette of Ottoman Empire -not Turkey- you should also show that they were independent. Many gazettes in 1919 were in British control.   Historians like Justin McCarthy and Gunter Lewy stated that post war courts-martial were a travesty of justice, the findings of these courts were unreliable, interrogations were not legal, the right of defense for the arrested was denied and the presiding officer, when questioning the defendants, often acted more like a prosecutor than like an impartial judge. As Lewy stated, “The legal procedures of Ottoman military courts, including those operating in 1919-20, suffered from serious shortcomings when compared to Western standards of due process of law.” The court did not listen to any testimony during judgment and the decisions were made by relying solely on false witnesses without considering the answers of the defense.       Last modified:Jun 13   si++ Jun 12     Hansom said: "Some says 100.000, 300.000, 600.000, some says 800.000 lost their lives..   I dont think we will ever learn the correct figure..."   You are correct. Nobody knows and probably will never know how many people lost their lives.   By the way, you haven´t give any figures for the Muslim Ottoman civilians that were massacred by the nationalist Armenian groups during the war years in order to establish an independent Armenian state?? Last modified:Jun 13 Response by thehandsom Jun 14     I think there is not a proper figure about how many muslims got killed during those years by the armenians.. I remember seeing 529.000 or something like that, but later on I read in some books that some of the values were not adding up (such as in Van, in 1919, the number of muslims killed was more than its muslim population). And also most of that 500.000 dead happened ´after´ 1915. But no question of that, in 1919, specially when Russian troops captured Turkish areas, Armenians did the things as bad as what was done to them in 1915.. Last modified:Jun 14   si++ Jun 12     Hansom said: Ottoman government says that during WW1 800.000 Armenians lost their lives.   Any source? Where did you get it from? metehan2001 Jun 12     Dear users, thehandsom repeats the Armenians´ views and false claims here. If you read through his writings, you will see that all of them are one sided. In fact, his aim is to create an cruel image on Turks and Turkish history. As you see, he never mentions the names of any serious studies and worthwhile articles, reports or books written by foreign and Turkish scholars.   If you want to learn truth and the real history about Armenian Issue, you can read the scholarly studies written by eminent foreign and Turkish historians about the "Issue" on the following link:   http://www.ataa.org/reference/   Edited (6/18/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: english to turkish please

4437.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Jun 2010 Fri 05:19 pm   Quoting solak Time for another years Diğer Yılların Zamanı   january. february. march april may and june july and august, goodbye summer autumn´s coming soon   ocak, şubat, mart nisan, mayıs ve haziran temmuz ve ağustos, güle güle yaz sonbahar yakında geliyor    hey september, october, november ıt´s december winter´s here goodbye christmas, that´s the end time for another year   hey eylül, ekim, kasım (artık)aralıktır, kış burada  güle güle Noel, işte son (artık)başka bir yılın zamanı   www.britishcouncil.org/learnenglishkids

Thread: english to turkish please

4438.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Jun 2010 Mon 07:56 am   Quoting solak   Flying from the Sun to the Stars Güneşten Yıldızlara Uçuyoruz        We’re flying from the sun to the stars Through this solar system of ours Mercury, Venus, Earth and Mars Flying from the sun to the stars   Güneşten yıldızlara uçuyoruz Bu bizim güneş sistemimizin içinden Merkür, Venüs, Dünya ve Mars Güneşten yıldızlara uçuyoruz    Mercury’s hot and Venus is bright Earth is where we live and Mars is red at night Flying from the sun to the stars   Merkür sıcak ve Venüs parlaktır. Dünya yaşadığımız yer ve Mars gece kızıldır. Güneşten yıldızlara uçuyoruz    Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune Last of all is little biddy Pluto   Jüpiter, Satürn, Uranüs ve Neptün Sonuncuları ise küçük minik Pluto    Flying from the sun to the stars Through this solar system of ours Flying from the sun to the stars    Güneşten yıldızlara uçuyoruz Bu bizim güneş sistemimizin içinden Güneşten yıldızlara uçuyoruz.    Mercury, Venus, Earth and Mars Flying from the sun to the stars   Merkür, Venüs, Dünya ve Mars Güneşten yıldızlara uçuyoruz.     Mercury’s hot and Venus is bright Earth is where we live and Mars is red at night Flying from the sun to the stars   Merkür sıcak ve Venüs parlaktır Dünya yaşadığımız yer ve Mars gece kızıldır. Güneşten yıldızlara uçuyoruz.    Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune Last of all is little biddy Pluto   Jüpiter, Satürn, Uranüs ve Neptün Sonuncuları ise küçük minik Pluto    Flying from the sun to the stars Flying from the sun to the stars   Güneşten yıldızlara uçuyoruz. Güneşten yıldızlara uçuyoruz.              Edited (6/7/2010) by gokuyum elenagabriela liked this message

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4439.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Jun 2010 Sun 11:02 pm   Quoting ayse-eski Although he was hungry, he didn´t come to dinner with us.(Aç olmasına rağmen bizimle akşam yemeğine gelmedi.) Despite the fact that that book wasn´t as expensive as I thought, I didn´t buy.(Kitabı düşündüğüm kadar pahalı olmamasına rağmen almadım) I need to go to my Turkish class every Tuesday in order to learn Turkish. (Türkçe öğrenmek için her salı Türkçe dersime gitmeliyim.) Although he wasn´t as rich as you, he could buy an apartment in Central Park West ( Senin kadar zengin olmamasına rağmen Central Par West´te bir daire alabildi) Because we couldn´t go to Turkey this summer, we are thinking of staying there for one month next year.(Türkiye´ye bu yaz gidemediğimiz için ertesi yıl orada bir ay kalmayı düşünüyoruz.) When I told him that I wanted to go to London for vacation this year, he recommend me to go to Brazil.(Ona tatil için Londra´ya gitmek istediğimi söylediğimde, bana Brezilya´ya gitmemi tavsiye etti.) The bell rang, when I put the book I was reading in my bag (Okuyor olduğum kitabı çantama koyarken zil çaldı I didn´t notice that the girl, who was sitting next to me, cried (Yanımda oturuyor olan kızın ağladığını fark etmedim)         Edited (6/6/2010) by gokuyum

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4440.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Jun 2010 Sun 10:55 pm   Quoting melek08 Senin o gözlerin varya herseyi bitirdi yazıik ettin gecen günleri...     Bir insanin idealleri olmali sonsuzluk gibi bir insanin özlem: olmali özlkem derken cicekler gibi. Bir insanin birtasi olmali. Tipki senin gibi   Sen bazen zifiri karanlik gecenin günesi, sen bazen hayatin cesaret veren mutluluk yani ve sen her zaman sevgimin tek nedensin.        Those eyes of you have finished everything, you have wasted those passed days...   One should have ideals like eternity.One should have longing. When i say longing, like flowers. One should have a (taşı?= stone) like you.   You are sometimes sun of  a pitch dark night, you are sometimes happiness side of life giving courage and you are always the only reason of my love.     Edited (6/6/2010) by gokuyum

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4441.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Jun 2010 Sat 08:37 pm   Quoting yilgun-2010   1- Kim ve ne olursak olalım, insan olabilmek zordur.İnsan olmanın iki şartı şunlardır:   . Haddini bilmek   . Boyundan büyük konuşmamak   2- Bana arkadaşlarını söyle: Senin kim olduğunu söyleyeyim.   3- Arpa eken buğday biçemez.Kötü davranışın karşılığı iyi olmaz.   4- Çocukluk ve gençlik çağı arkadaşlıkları geçicidir.Ancak hayata atılınca,     bunun nedenini anlarsın.    1) It is difficult to be able to be a human whoever we are. These are  two conditions of being a human:   -Knowing one´s place -Not talking big   2-) Tell me your friends I tell you who you are.   3)One who sow barley can´t harvest wheat.The response to bad behavior isn´t good.   4) The friendships of childhood and youth age are temporary. Only when you get into life(start to work), you understand the reason of this.

Thread: Please, please please translate - very important

4442.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Jun 2010 Sat 07:47 pm   Quoting Argon Hi Everyone   Can someone please help to translate the following? I think this message is very very important to the welfare of my young child. I believe it is fragmented due to it being from messenger or similar but as long as I get the general idea. Please, please help. Many thanks.   Quote: Add quoted text here     ben de birakamazdim herhalde hatırı kırılır diye çok dusunuyoruz biz. İsler iyi mi bari onun? ne zaman geliyor tulay?Olur canim, yazik isler belki azalir ama kişa dogru cogalir gibime geliyor. Oooo cok olmus yainsallah duzelir canimaslinda buralara gelse diyorumhem yapar hem satardi ayni dukkandankiralar da belki daha uygundur cambridge tarafindakendi bilir tabiibildigi yerden kopmak risk isterinsallah canimbana ne zaman geliyorsunuz bakiimcikin gelin arabanizla    I wouldn´t leave it/her/him perhaps. We are thinking too much if his/her heart can be broken. At least are his/her works good? When is Tülay coming? Ok dear, what a pity, I think the works maybe decrease but up to winter they increase.Oh it has become long time(or much). I hope it will be okay my dear. In fact I think if he/she came here he/she would also make and also sell. Maybe the rents from same shop is more suitable at the side of Cambridge. Of course she/he knows better. It demands a risk leaving from the place which he/she knows. God willing my dear. When are you coming to me?Lets come out and come by your car.   eeee ne duruyorsun o zaman atla geledus da cok buyuduyalniz gelme canimphilipi de alchrisle cenelerleraramaziz kotu degil kus degiliz onunlanormal arkadasizazik ya yoruluyor degil mievet biz cok fedakar insanlarizgelin ben yanina oturayim seninburalar daha da sajkin yerlerehliyeti gectin mieteeeh heeehaferin kiz sanao zaman gelin burada hem dolasiriz hem pratik yaparsinkandir onuyok ki birseyotobana cok dumduz bize gelo kadar kolaylondradan kolay buraya gelm ek   So what are you waiting? Then jump and come. Edus has also grown up very much. Don´t come alone take Philip with Chris too. We are not bad with Caners. We are not stuffy with him. We are normal friends. Ya he/she becomes tired, right? Yes we are very self sacrificing people. Please come and let me sit near you. Heres are even more quiet places. Did you pass the driving license test? Bravo girl. Then come here we can also walk around and you can also practice.Convince him/her. No it is not difficult. Come out to autobahn and come straight to us. It is that much easy. It i easy coming here from London.   Aysiuncugum ozlettkezda saydin Nasil hamile lson ha?minim zlaniyorna soylezsin henuz canim ne de olsa ayni evdeyiz chris hic soylemez, caktirmaz yani evet sagol canim ama bir an once kandir onu da gelin chris evden cikmadan sonra herhalde gelmez bir daha kesin olarak kimse bilmiyor tabii aama ya ev tutar ya da ailesinin yanina tasinir diye dusunuyorum de once degildi bizim cikmamizi istedi ama simdi fikri degismis diyorum ya cok dengesiz diye mahkeme isterse ne yapabilir ki biz mi sokakta kalaillim edayla sozde edanin iyiligini istiyor cunku ama evden cikaracak anlayamiyorum ben onu cok degisken avukatlar ne uygun gorurse halletsinsinler diyorum yani o yalniz odada da olsa yasar ama ben cocukla ne yaparim ok y tabii benzin ve gida alisverisini kesti artik sadece kendisine aliyor isteyince cok bencil oluyor tabii evet isler bozulunca madalyonun obur yuzu donuyor hemen ben soylersem bir tek sut aliyor ama bu cocuk sadece sutle beslenmiyor tabii ben tamamlıyorum evet cok benciller oyle boyle degil arabayi da satmami istiyor yarisi onun musignede gozu var evet uzmuyorum zaten bitmesine sevinirim evet var ama benimkinin degeri daha fazlaymis 500 1000 lira daha cok musinonda gozu var evet bunlarda hic gurur yok ama bizde var bunlar bu kadar alcalabiliyorlar sonucta cocugu o arabayla okula gidiyor yoook nerdeeee benzin de ona gidiyor lafin kisasi olacak is degil yolu ayirmak en iyisi bu sozler ve yasananlardan sonra eskisi gibi olamaz artik olur canim ya aslinda ben londraya da gelicem iki 10 gun sonra belki gorusuruz tamam canim arasairiz canim benim yeni cebimi vereyim sana 075844 yok canim burda degil mustafanin yaninda kalacak biraz annemde canim o o kullanacak dun mustafada biraktimor dadyduik 3 gun neyse yarin istersin sen iyi geceler optum seni canim mucukkksx x x x olur operim bye iyi geceler x x x   I will not translate anymore it is too private and it can cause problems. Hope someone will translate it.But i corrected a little bit the rest of text so people can translate it. Edited (6/5/2010) by gokuyum Edited (6/5/2010) by gokuyum Edited (6/5/2010) by gokuyum

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4443.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Jun 2010 Sat 07:28 pm Thank you two. I modified it. Have a nice day.

Thread: Turkish to English pls

4444.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Jun 2010 Sat 07:27 pm   Quoting Gracie007 Sos heading should be e to t   hi can someone carry out this translation.   "x told me what you said about not contacting you like I did before he came here. I regret this and would like us to begin to do this from now on. I didnt mean to cause offence or disrespect you. I think alot about my family in Turkey and love you all. "   Any help would be appreciated,  X bana o buraya gelmeden önce yaptığım gibi seninle iletişime geçmemem hakkında ne söylediğini anlattı. Bundan pişmanım ve bundan böyle böyle yapmayı isterdim. Seni gücendirmek ve saygısızlık yapmak istemedim. Türkiyedeki ailem hakkında çokça düşünüyorum ve hepinizi seviyorum.

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4445.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Jun 2010 Sat 08:17 am   Quoting smaragda -greaat ne demekse -  öle kardşm - hacılar hayırlı olsun dicem ama şimdi (name) ne dediğimi anlamıycak -eyv. da ben annıyom seni sen banada söylesin de hacılar kısmını yanlış anlarsa işte o zaman nasıl anlatırız diye düşünürüz hacım - ben anlatırım hey(name)they cemaats.cemaatçiden geliyo hani tayyip ingilizcesi.but (name)  black cemaats meali yani diyorum ki o koyu cemaatcidir daha sapkını -tamm olm bu kadar bokunu çıkarmasak olayın hani cemaat feln   AND THESE: - yok abi sadece arkadaşlık ve dostluk çerçevesinde daha ilersi yok - yok olsun ama zaten hep böle başlar bu işler hayırlısı olsun canım ne diyelim herşey gönlünce olsun    -What the hell great means -It is so my brother (my friend) -Now I will say "May it be good my pilgrims (="my friends" in slang)" but Name will not understand. -Ok I understand you. You say it to me too. I am thinking how we will tell her if she misunderstands pilgrim word. My pilgrim (my friend) -I can tell her. Hey Name they are congregations. It is coming from being a member of  congregation. It is Tayyip  English. But Name black congregations. It means, so I am trying to say he is a fanatic member of the congregation, even more perverse -Ok my son (my friend) Lets not spoil it ;this congregation thing, etc   -No my brother it is only in the frame of friendship and fellowship (It is limited by these) No more -No but these things start like this. May it be good and according to your heart.   "Note: This conversation is not serious. Everything is a joke. "

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4446.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Jun 2010 Sat 07:51 am   Quoting melek08 A SOLDIER´S GIRL Bir askerin kızı   Everyone hears of the Soldier Wife, Her trials, sacrifices, and devoted life. She is strong, she is brave, and she is loving indeed, Standing by her man in his time of need.    Herkes asker karısı hakkında bir şeyler duyuyordur Onun çilelerini, fedakarlıklarını ve adanmış hayatını. O güçlüdür, o cesurdur, o gerçekten seviyordur Erkeğinin ihtiyaç duyduğunda yanında duruyordur.  Will there be peace or will there be war? You try to be hopeful but it´s hard to ignore. The world seems to be falling apart When to a soldier you have given your heart.   Barış mı yoksa savaş mı olacak? Umutlu olmaya çalışırsın ama görmezden gelmek zordur. Dünya parçalara ayrılacakmış gibi görünür Bir askere kalbini verdiğinde. Your love runs too deep to escape from it now. You hope to be together somewhere, somehow, When his duty is over and your life can begin. You wonder if it will happen but don´t question when.   Aşkın artık çok derindendir ondan kaçmak için Bir yerde bir şekilde onunla birlikte olmayı umut edersin Görevi bittiğinde senin hayatın başlayabilir. Olacak mı diye merak edersin ama ne zaman diye sorgulamazsın. The many heartbreaks and times you did weep When he made promises the Military couldn´t keep. But you have learned so much together and come so far. Others warned you not to fall in love but you already are.   Bir çok kalp kırıklıkları ve ağladığın zamanlar Ordunun tutamayacağı sözleri o verdiği zaman Ama birlikte çok şey öğrenmişsiniz ve buraya kadar gelmişsinizdir. Öbürleri sizi aşık olmayın diye uyarmıştır ama siz çoktan aşık olmuşsunuzdur. His job is ever-changing and takes him far away. You think of him always and pray every day-- For his safety, his courage, and his love for you  That he may remain steadfast, loyal, and true.   İşi hep değişkendir ve onu sizden uzaklara götürür Her zaman onun hakkında düşünürsünüz ve her gün dua edersiniz Onun güvenliği, cesareti ve size olan aşkı için. Ki o her zaman kararlı, sadık ve dürüst kalabilsin Nothing is sure and nothing is set in stone... Except that he will leave again and you will be alone, Holding tightly to your dreams of a future together When you will at last be able to say the word "forever."   Hiçbir şey kesin değildir ve hiçbir şey taşa yazılmamıştır. Onun tekrar ayrılacağı ve sizin yalnız kalacağınız haricinde Birlikte bir geleceğin rüyalarına sıkıca tutunursunuz En sonunda daima sözcüğünü söyleyebilecekken Tears have become anything but a stanger. They fall freely in sadness, loneliness, and anger. But he will never know because you will never tell. You´ve learned to hide your misery only too well.   Gözyaşları bir yabancıdan başka her şey olmuştur. Üzüntüde, yalnızlıkta, kızgınlıkta serbestçe dökülür. Ama o hiç bilmeyecektir çünkü hiç anlatmayacaksınızdır. Sadece çok iyi şekilde sefaletinizi gizlemeyi öğrenmişsinizdir. A few years? That doesn´t sound like so long. The letters and phone calls keep your love going strong, Even when they are few and far between, In them, his love for you can clearly be seen.   Bir kaç yıl? Çok uzunmuş gibi kulağa gelmiyor. Mektuplar ve telefon aramaları aşkınızı güçlü tutuyor. Az olsalar ve araları uzak olsa bile Onlarda onun size aşkı açıkça görülebilir. So keep your chin up and a smile on your face. He is protecting your freedom and keeping you safe. His heart is strong and his love is true And don´t ever forget that he is missing you too   Öyleyse çeneni dik tut (korkma) ve yüzüne bir gülümseme kondur O senin özgürlüğünü koruyor ve seni güvende tutuyor Kalbi güçlü ve aşkı  gerçek Ve sakın unutma ki o da özlüyor seni.       My try Edited (6/5/2010) by gokuyum

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4447.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Jun 2010 Sat 07:24 am   Quoting karinalinares Kadın Olmak Kadın Olmak Yaratılırken sol kaburga kemiğinden;kimse ezsin diye değildi.BİR MAL OLMAK için hiç değildi!Kalbin azıcık altından, sol kolun dibinden...Yani dizinden olsaydı ne olurdu acaba?...Kafa tasından da yaratılmadı, neden?sol kaburga kemiğinden kadın olmak, ayrıcalıktı aslında.Erkeğin sol ...      Being a woman   Being a woman while being created from left rib bone was not for someone to crush her. It wasn´t never for being a property... So if she was created from knee what would happen?...She wasn´t created also from the skull, why? Actually it was a privilege being woman from the left rib bone. Man´s left......

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4448.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Jun 2010 Sat 07:16 am   Quoting karinalinares -Karıncaya sormuşlar nereye diye, uzaktaki sevgilime demiş. Ulaşamazsın ki demişler, olsun hiç olmazsa yolunda ölürüm demiş!     -amerikanın yoları taştan    They have asked the ant "to where?". He has answered "to my lover far away" They have said "You can´t reach(arrive)" He has said "no matter at least I die on the way to her"   The roads of America are made of stones. Edited (6/5/2010) by gokuyum

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4449.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Jun 2010 Fri 06:02 pm   Quoting yilgun-2010 GELİŞMİŞ ÜLKELERDEKİ GENEL KABUL GÖREN TOPLUMSAL VE ANAYASAL HUKUK  KURALI – TOPLUMSAL SÖZLEŞME The commonly accepted social and constitutional law rule in advanced countries - Social Agreement   Çok iyi bildiğiniz gibi, yaşadığımız dünyada, USA, İngiltere, Fransa, Almanya, Kanada, Avustralya vb. gelişmiş ülkerde çok sayıda çeşitli ırklardan, dinlerden ve kültürlerden insanlar hak, uyum  ve hukuk içerisinde yaşamaktadır.   As you know perfectly, in the world we are living, in the advenced countries like USA, England,France,Germnay, Canada, Australia, etc..many people from different races, religions,cultures live in right, harmony and law. Siz bu ülkelerdeki etnik grupların o devletin yasal düzenine karşı olumsuz bir yönünü hiç gördünüz mü?    Have you ever seen any negative side (approach)of these ethnic groups to the legal system of that country? Örneğin bir Türk; Amerikan, Almanya, Kanada ya da Avustralya vatandaşı olabilmektedir.   For example a Turk is able to be a citizen of usa, germany, canada, australia. Örneğin, bir İngiliz; Türkiye´den bir ev satın alıp, Türkiye´ye taşınabilmekte ve Türk vatandaşı olabilmektedir.   For example an Englander is able to move to Turkey buying a home and be a Turkish citizen. Bu örnekleri daha da genişletmek mümkündür. It is possible expand these examples. Bu  çağımızda herkesin bildği bir gerçektir. This is a commonly known fact in our age.  Çünkü kültür çeşitliliği o ülkelerin bilimsel ve toplumsal zenginliğidir. Because cultural variety is scientific and social richness of those countries. Bu ülkelerinin kendi devlet yasalarında, egemenlik tektir. In these states´ laws, the sovereignty is one. Yani egemenlik tekil devlete aittir. So the sovereignty belongs to the singular state. Tekil devlet, özel yaşam alanında kalmak koşuluyla, alt-etnik kimlikleri benimser. The singular state adopts sub-ethnic identities in a condition of staying in the area of private life.  Ne yazık ki, az gelilşmiş ülkelerde bu uluslararası hukuk ilkesi  hala anlaşılmamaktadır ve işlememektedir. What a pity,this international law principle can´t be understood and performed in little advanced countries. Atatürk bu durumu şu eşsiz sözüyle açıkça vurgulamıştır: " En büyük savaş, cehalete karşı verilen savaştır" Atatürk emphasized this situation with this unique saying of him: "The greatest war is the one against the ignorance. " İşte bu dünyanın çözümleyemediği bütün sosyal sorunlar ne yazık ki bu noktaya odaklanmıştır. What a pity,all the social problems which world can´t solve is focused to this point. Oysa, dünya artık globalleşmiştir. However, the world has been globalised.  Dünya, artık tam tersine, parçalara bölünmüş değil, global bir dünya olmak üzeredir. The world is not about to be divided into pieces, just the opposite, it is about to become a global world. Bunun bilimsel adı da şudur:Evrensel Ortak Yaşam ve Kültür Entegrasyonu! The scientific name of this is: The Universal Common Life and Culture  Integration.       Edited (6/4/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Turkish to Enlgish please

4450.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Jun 2010 Fri 07:34 am   Quoting helpplease If they treated him how he treats them, I would never see them again but they never do! I do not know how they keep their tempers down. My parents will not even visit me because of how he treated them last time. I forgive and forgive but this is the last time. If he ever disrespects my parents again and is so racist about the country where he makes his money and owns his house, I will divorce him!    Eğer onlar ona, onun kendilerine davrandığı gibi davransalar onları tekrar görmek istemezdim. Ama hiç böyle davranmadılar. Neden öfkelerini tutuyorlar bilmiyorum. Onlara son defasında da kötü davrandığı için ailem artık beni ziyarete gelmeyecekler. Affediyorum, affediyorum ama bu son. Eğer aileme saygısızlık etmeye devam ederse, parasını kazandığı ve ev edindiği ülke hakkında bu kadar ırkçı olmaya devam ederse onu boşayacağım. Edited (6/4/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Turkish to Enlgish please

4451.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Jun 2010 Fri 07:30 am   Quoting helpplease I don´t want Emre to know I have contacted you but i wish you would talk to him because if he doesn´t change, it will be the end of our marriage! My family understood when he first came here that he would find it hard and they have been loving, caring and respectful but recently he has been so rude to my parents. We can be having a normal conversation and then he will start SHOUTING about this country and being racist about British people. My parents try to not say anything because they want to keep the peace but there is a lot that they could say . I am sick of him upsetting them and my friends. They have had enough and it is making my life miserable. He is making enemies from being so rude to everyone. I am not saying everything is perfect but all of my family have welcomed him and done everything they could for him and he treats them disgustingly. I will end this marriage if this continues. He is agressive and cruel for no reason. I am sick of my family being made upset but soon it will turn to anger because they have had enough of him shouting racist and abusive things about our country and people. If anyone said anything about Turkey to Emre, World War III would start           Emrenin seninle temasa geçtiğimi bilmesini istemiyorum ama umarım onunla konuşursun çünkü eğer o değişmezse bu evliliğimizin sonu olacak. Ailem onun buraya ilk geldiğinde onun için  bazı şeylerin zor olacağını takdir ettiler ve ona karşı sevgili, ilgili ve saygılıydılar ama o benim aileme karşı çok kaba. Normalce konuşurken birden bu ülke insanları hakkında bağırmaya başlıyor. Ailem huzuru bozmamak için bir şey söylemek istemiyor ama söyleyebilecekleri çok şeyleri var. Onun ailemi ve arkadaşlarımı üzüp durmasından bıktım. Artık onlar için de yetti ve bu durum hayatımı perişan ediyor. Ng´ den sürekli düşmanlar ediniyor ve herkese karşı çok kaba. Her şeyin mükemmel olduğunu söylemiyorum ama ailem onu hoş karşıladı, onun için yapabilecekleri her şeyi yaptılar ama onlara mide bulandırıcı bir şekilde davranıyor. Eğer böyle devam ederse bu evliliği sonlandıracağım. O nedensiz yere çok agresif ve acımasız. Ailemin sürekli onun tarafından üzülmesinden bıktım ve yakında bu öfkeye dönüşecek çünkü onlara da onun ülkeleri ve insanları hakkında ırkçı ve küfürlü sözlerden gına geldi. Eğer birisi Emre´ye Türkiye hakkında her hangi bir şey söyleseydi, Üçüncü Dünya Savaşı başlardı Edited (6/4/2010) by gokuyum

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4452.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Jun 2010 Fri 07:07 am   Quoting melek08 There isn´t always enough time to say and do the things that we would like to do in life. Before you know it, the years pass by so suddenly. So, I thought I would take this time to tell you how much I love you.   Hayatta her zaman yapmak istediklerimizi yapabilecek ve söyleyebilecek yeterli zamanımız olmuyor. Sen fark etmeden yıllar geçip gidiyor. Bu yüzden düşündüm ki bu zamanımı değerlendirip sana seni ne kadar çok sevdiğimi anlatayım.   I realize that living with me can be difficult at times; and for your patience and understanding I thank you. Sometimes I have wondered why you put up with me, what it is about me that you find so attractive, why you stay with me. But, day upon day, and year upon year you have proven your faithful devotion to me again and again. And, for that I thank you.   Farkettim ki bazen benimle birlikte yaşamak zor olabiliyor; sabrın ve anlayışın için sana teşekkür ediyorum. Bazen bana niye katlandığını merak ediyorum. Ben de ne var ki bu kadar çekici buluyorsun ve niçin benimle birlikte kalıyorsun? Ama gün be gün, yıl be yıl, tekrar ve tekrar bana sadaketini kanıtladın. Bunun için sana teşekkür ediyorum.   When I have been discouraged or weak or sick, you were there. When I was broken and battered and confused, you were there. When I was confused and defeated and could not love myself, you were there. In all these ways you have loved me.    Hevesim kırılmışken, zayıfken veya hastayken sen oradaydın.Kırılmış, yıpranmış ve şaşkınken sen oradaydın. Şaşkınken, yenilmişken, kendimi sevemezken sen oradaydın. Tüm bu durumlarda beni sevdin.   I have not always known how to show love. Before I met you I never thought I would be able to love again. But, you have inspired me. There is something about you that has forever changed me and my heart. I have found the capacity within to love you and every day I love youmore.   Aşkımı nasıl göstereceğimi her zaman bilemedim. Seninle tanışmadan önce yeniden sevebileceğimi hiç düşünmemiştim. Ama bana ilham verdin. Sende beni ve kalbimi sonsuza kadar değiştirmiş olan bir şey var. İçimde seni sevmek için kapasiteyi buldum ve her geçen gün seni daha çok seviyorum.   I love you because of your smile and your laughter and your encouraging words. I love you because of all the sacrifices you make for me. I love you because of your unflinching commitment to me. I love you because... you love me.   Seni gülümseyişin, gülüşün ve cesaret verici sözlerin için seviyorum. Benim için yaptığın onca fedakarlıklar için seni seviyorum. Seni bana gözü kara bağlılığın için seviyorum. Seni seviyorum çünkü...sen de beni seviyorsun.   I hope that you can understand that there is a place beyond words and emotions where the expression of my love for you dwells. I can scarcely define for you how very much I love you and the words seem to only scratch the surface. But know, that my love for you is real and growing and deeper and richer every day. I am so grateful that God has given you to me as a gift.   Umarım sözlerin ve duyguların ötesinde sana olan aşkımın ifadesinin yaşadığı bir yer olduğunu anlarsın. Ancak kıtı kıtına seni ne kadar sevdiğimi belirtebilirim ve öyle görünüyor ki sözler ancak sevgimin dış yüzeyini tırmalayabilir. Ama bil ki sana olan aşkım gerçek ve her gün gittikçe derinleşiyor ve zenginleşiyor. Tanrıya seni bana bir hediye olarak verdiği için çok minnettarım.   Through you I have found love and learned to love. Senin sayende aşkı buldum ve sevmeyi öğrendim.    I love you Seni seviyorum.      Edited (6/4/2010) by gokuyum Edited (6/4/2010) by gokuyum

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4453.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Jun 2010 Thu 06:14 pm   Quoting yilgun-2010 HUKUK VE EĞİTİM LAW AND EDUCATION Hukuk çok önemlidir. Law is very important. Bu dünyada bütün insanlar evrensel hukuka, uluslararası hukuka ve ulusal hukuka  uyarsa, ne savaş olur, ne kötülük.. If everybody obeys to universal, international and national law,neither war nor badness exist. Mahkemelerde davalar azalır, hapishaneler boşalır, sorunlar çözülür.  The lawsuits in courts decreases, the prisons empties, problems are solved. Bu dünyanın en kronik temel sorunu eğitim noksanlığıdır. The most chronic main problem of this world is the lack of education. Başka bir ifadeyle eğitimsizliktir. In other words it is  being without education. Eğitim işi çok zordur. Education job is very hard.  Bu dünyada 72 millet var. There are 72 nations. Bu insanları nasıl eğiteceksin? How will you educate these people? Bunu kim başarabilirmiş ki? Who has done it? Dünyanın hali meydanda. The situation of world is as you see (not good) Bunu kime anlatacaksın?… Who will you tell it?  Anlamazlar ki... But they don´t understand...

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4454.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Jun 2010 Wed 07:29 am   Quoting thehandsom     I think the agreement was made with PKK about Kurdish opening..      You are like a poisonous snake. Every word coming from your mouth is poisonous. Your words can only make things worse. I also support Kurdish opening but I don´t approve an agreement with terrorists. Do you have any proof that an agreement has been made with PKK. If you don´t you are a liar. I am sick of your shows. Edited (6/2/2010) by gokuyum

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4455.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Jun 2010 Wed 07:13 am   Quoting Lady_A One more please...thank you...     ömit ederimki hakli cikasin. sadece senin özülmene gönlüm razi gelmiyor. bunu sende biliyorsun, herkesin arkadasi geliyor ama biz bir türlü görüsemiyoruz. buda beni yeterince yipratiyor. sana karsi hep dörüst oldum. ama bir gün mutlaka gurusuruz icimde his ediyorum. sana ingilizce yazamadigim icin özgünüm.    I hope you will be proved right. My heart doesn´t consent you being sad. You know this also. The friends of everybody come but we can´t meet somehow. This frays me out enough. I was always honest to you. But we will absolutely meet some day. I feel this deeply. I am sorry I can´t write you in English.

Thread: English to turkish lutfen ......tesekkur ederim

4456.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Jun 2010 Tue 08:14 am   Quoting Blue Butterfly I know how difficult this is, it is for me too.  Bunun ne kadar zor olduğunu biliyorum. Benim için de zor. Please have faith, I know this is a big test for both of us, but for a love as big and strong as ours  Lütfen inançlı ol. Bunun bir bizzim ki kadar büyük ve güçlü bir aşk için, bizim için büyük bir test olduğunu biliyorum. I know we will get through this, we will be together again, you have to believe this  Bunu atlatacağımızı biliyorum. Tekrar birlikte olacağız. Buna inanmalısın. Hold on (sabret?) when we are living together again, we will think of this as a bad dream  Sabret birlikte yaşayacağımız zaman bunu kötü bir rüya olarak hatırlayacağız. I love you more than i can put into words, you are all I am living for  Seni kelimelerle anlatılamayacak kadar çok seviyorum. Uğrunda yaşadığım herşey sensin.   Cok tesekkur ederim     Edited (6/1/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Turkish to English please

4457.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Jun 2010 Tue 08:09 am   Quoting Lady_A meraba nasilsin? umarim iyisindir. seninle cok uzaklasmisiz. bana daha onceleri gonderdigin mesajlarini kiyamadin silmeye. bir cogu hala duruyor. onlara baktimki simdi birbirimizi unutmusuz hayat cok kotu hic adil davranmiyor bana (kendi acimdan). her sey bu kadar basit ve yalanmi? ayni zamanda aci hep sana sarilip ama uyumamak isterdim sabahlara kadar. kendine iyi bak.     Thank you!    Hello, how are you? I hope you are fine. We have become distant with you. I couldn´t dare to delete the messages that you had sent. Most of them still remains. I looked at them and realized that we had forgotten each other. Life is so bad, it never treats me fairly. (from my point of view) Is everything this much simple and untruthful? And by the meantime it is painful. I always wanted to hug you but not to sleep till the morning. Take care of yourself.

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4458.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Jun 2010 Tue 07:58 am   Quoting deli      the happiest person in the world is the one who gives happiness the most lovable person in the world is the one who knows how to love the wisest  person in the world is the one who knows himself the most mature person in the world is the one who smiles at pain my try      bravo.

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4459.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Jun 2010 Tue 07:57 am   Quoting yilgun-2010 ".Aman kendine dikkat et, oralarda, gurbet elde, hasta olma...Aksi takdirde, sana annen ya da eşinden başka kimse bakmaz.Arkadaş görünen o kimseler ziyaretine bile gelmez.O zaman hayatın ne demek olduğını anlarsın."  Oh for goodness sake, take care of yourself. Don´t be sick there, in the foreign land. Otherwise nobody don´t care for you except your mother or your wife. The ones who seem like friends even don´t come to visit you. Then you understand what the meaning of life is.

Thread: help with message please, thanks

4460.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 May 2010 Mon 11:16 pm   Quoting bryang I think.......my friend is explaining me how to send messages? Thank you a lot for your help!       sik kullanilanlara kaydet istersen, sana bide bi resim atiyom o kadar ugrastim bak resimli anlatim hazirladim.. nereye ne yazcagini gosteriyo.. ama su var.. gunde 10 taneden fazla mesaj alamiyom ben.. arkadaslarda gonderiyo bazen o yuzden sanirim en fazla 5 tane falan kaliyo.            If you want, save it to frequently used. I am sending you also a message. Look, I endeavored so much and I prepared an explanation with pictures. It shows where you will write what. But there is a matter. I can´t receive more than 10 messages in a day. Sometimes my friends send too and because of it it remains at most 5.

Thread: T-E

4461.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 May 2010 Mon 11:10 pm   Quoting yilgun-2010 “…Bu kimseler hakkında henüz bir intibaya sahip olamadıım…Bu şimdilik mümkün değil. Bu kimselerin aile yapıları nasıldır, değer yargıları nedir, düşünce yapıları neye göredir, sevgi ve saygıyı bilirler mi, neye inanırlar, nasıl düşünürler, neyi düşünürler, ne yaparlar, nasıl yaşarlar, anlamış değilim.  Bir insanda, dürüstlük, temiz ahlak, gerçek –sahte değil-  arkadaşlık, fedakarlık  ve iyi niyet ne kadar umurunuzda?…doğrusu merak ediyorum…”    I couldn´t have yet an impression about those people. This is not possible for now. I haven´t understood how these people´s family structures are, what their moral judgments are, according to what their thinking structures are or whether they know love or respect, what they believe, how they think, what they think, what they do, how they live.   In fact I wonder how much you care about honesty, clean morals, real -not fake- friendship, self sacrifice and good will in a person.

Thread: Kısa Lutfen Turkce - English

4462.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 May 2010 Mon 11:00 pm   Quoting Blue Butterfly hayirli ogurlu olsun!!!! Allah sevenler a arilmasin!!!!!           I do not know what he is trying to say? tesekkurler    May it be beneficial and fortunate. May Allah not separate the ones who love each other.

Thread: Kurdish children jailed in Turkey under anti-terror law

4463.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 May 2010 Mon 10:52 pm   Quoting barba_mama I disagree with the limited affect of words. It also depends on where you say those words, and who you say them too. It´s not all about screamig, kicking and shouting. The biggest heroes in history are the people who used their mind and mouth as form of protest, and not their fists. I have the same talk with people who felt sympathy for the PKK, and I will have the same talk with people who feel like they have to jail children who say they support PKK. An intellectual approach towards any problem might work less well on the short term, but on the long term it is the only way that REALLY works.   As one of my personal heroes, Ghandi, said:   An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.          PS: The quotes about the army in Aghanistan shooting children or whatever was about the U.S. army. There was only one article in that piece about the Dutch hitting civilians, which led to a government wide investigation. No children were hit in this incident, and the government made an official apology to the Afghan people, even though the incident happened because the Taliban used those people as a human shield in the bombing. The Dutch army is internationally well known (nowadays) as being quite diplomatic.    I said sometimes words can be very effective but most of the times not. If you know words are in vain and you still continue to say same thing over and over again either you are showing off or you are scaring of taking action. Gandhi´s words were very effective. But without passive disobedience they would be useless. Passive disobedience is an act too. Acts don´t mean they have to be violent. You can´t change anything with only words. There is a saying in Turkish "The dog which barks, doesn´t bite" For example everybody said Israel to not to hinder human aid to Palestine but they were no use until now. Some activists took action and now it is an international matter. And everyone now condemns Israel. Without this action could it be possible such a thing? I don´t say go and be killed. But at least don´t make noise if you don´t have enough courage to take action like me. Edited (5/31/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Relief ship stopped by Israeli Navy

4464.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 May 2010 Mon 10:39 pm I don´t know when Israel´s cruelty will end. I don´t know how many more people have to die to it finish. But Israel´s name was already written to the black pages of the history. I respect the brave and innocent people who are killed by Israeli soldiers on that ship. They showed us what courage means. They defended themselves with their fists against machine guns. And they became martyrs for us. This is what courage means. I learned one of the ships´ name is Rachel Corrie. It is also so meaningful. Edited (5/31/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: T to E my attempt

4465.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 May 2010 Mon 02:47 am   Quoting Inscrutable yüzmeye gitmedim çünkü kendimi tembel hissettim. Is this correct now? Thank yo    Yes it sounds better. The first sentence sounded weird. But then I thought about other sentences like "Dün çok tembeldin(You were very lazy yesterday)" And it seemed ok to me. So I am now not sure whether "Yüzmeye gitmedim çünkü tembeldim" is wrong or not. But it sounds weird to me. So I wonder what the opinions of other natives are. Edited (5/31/2010) by gokuyum Edited (5/31/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Kurdish children jailed in Turkey under anti-terror law

4466.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 May 2010 Mon 02:29 am   Quoting oeince Yes! Action is important! Although social sciences sources are the combination of ideas, written and verbal sources; These works must be turned to action to create broader effects.   However action is sth. that everyone expect from others. Noone wants to take the responsibility. To be an actionaist we must just do! Not say others to do! Or not criticise someone for not to do!   We followers of Turkishclass are people from various different Nations and ideologic background. Together with that, still we can compromise on some basic points.   Why dont we compromise on a press statement than? Such as on that issue! Let off the children! Being in action and taking responsibility on the solutions is really meaningful!   What do you think?    I agree all what you say. I am not perfect. I am not an activist. I tell others what to do. But the main difference is I know who I am. I say I  am ashamed of my cowardice when I remember Rachel Corrie´s selfless action. But some people here feel like they are freedom fighters when they say empty words. I think a collective action is way better than empty words. It will not change anything if I say "Don´t send children to prison!" or "PKK, don´t use children!" I f you say something will change I am ready to say these all day.

Thread: T to E my attempt

4467.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 May 2010 Mon 02:02 am   Quoting Inscrutable yüzmeye gitmedim çünkü tembeldim. Thank you    We use being lazy as a habit. So you can´t say in Turkish I was lazy if you act lazily sometimes. You can use here "kendimi tembel hissettim".

Thread: Kurdish children jailed in Turkey under anti-terror law

4468.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 May 2010 Mon 01:31 am   Quoting barba_mama There are some people who go very far in their protests, and it´s nice to see how far people can go to help others. However, being run over by a bulldozer is not the most productive way to change the world. There are many levels of protesting agaist injustice. The first one is opening your mouth. The worst thing is to say "Wir haben es nicht gewust" (We didn´t know) My first step of protest is actually opening my mouth. I was part of a project in which we went to visit schools throughout Holland, to teach them about the Children´s Rights charters. How these rights applied to the kids in Holland, and how the status of children´s rights were in other countries. No, there were no bulldozers involved, but I think at least I did a little something to make those kids aware of what was happenig in the world. Did I earn the right to complain on this forum? Or is there another level of "doing something" that I need to reach before I´m allowed to have an opinion?  I agree opening mouth is the first step. But you can´t stop in the first step if you want to change something. Words can be sometimes very effective but most of the times not. Some people won´t want to listen you. Most of the time a collective action is better than words. Everyone condemns Israel and USA for their crimes but they don´t listen anybody. Words are useless. After you understand words are no use and you keep saying same things over and over again knowing they will change nothing you are either showing off or you are afraid of taking action. I am reading now Frantz Fanon´s Wretched of The World. It tells the struggle of colony people and how words are useless without action. There is a famous foreword of J.P.Sartre for this book. You can find it here.http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/sartre/1961/preface.htm Read it carefully and you will understand what I mean. I don´t approve unnecessary violence. But taking action doesn´t mean only violence. Rachel Corrie´s action wasn´t violent. But it was very effective. I don´t advice you to be killed. But you should do more than talking. Rachel Corrie is now a martyr. She gives me hope for a good and peaceful future.She gives me courage. She tells me you must be brave and afraid of nothing when you are right. If she just talked and did nothing I wouldn´t even know her. I wouldn´t want her be killed by a bulldozer. But I respect her decision. She was so brave and when I remember this selfless act I am ashamed of my cowardice.    I think only way to solve Kurdish problem is diplomacy for Turkey. I support the government´s Kurdish opening. But I am sure Kurdish politicians will want more. Their ultimate goal is having their own country. But Turkey still suffers the traumas of first world war. We lost many lands. And nobody want to lose more lands. It has become a taboo to even talk about giving more lands. So without a war Turkey will never allow Kurds to have their own country. My thoughts are these about this matter.   Note: By the way I am not a marxist. I hate marxism. I am a social democrat.     Edited (5/31/2010) by gokuyum Edited (5/31/2010) by gokuyum Edited (5/31/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: TURKISH NOVELS

4469.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2010 Sun 03:54 am Ahmet Mithat Efendi/ Çingene (The Gipsy)   Ahmet Mithat Efendi who is struggling to  enlighten his people with a humanist approach by bringing a different view point against all prejudgments and superstitions of his period at every turn, is drawing attention to a subject which is unpleasant but important, in this work of his which is named The Gipsy.   This work which is presented to present day reader for the first time after it was written with a great mastery by Ahmet Mithat  exactly 122 years ago, is a work that one should read it by holding it up as an example   (from idefixe)   An anti-racist work and it tells how our people saw gypsies 122 years ago. Our approach to them wasn´t so brilliant like now. You should read it.     Edited (5/30/2010) by gokuyum Edited (5/30/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: T-E

4470.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2010 Sun 02:13 am   Quoting yilgun-2010 We could be the same;  no matter what they say…I am thinking that we should spend  the rest of our lives together…    Onlar ne derse desin aynı olabilirdik... Düşünüyorum da hayatımızın geri kalanını  beraber geçirirdik.

Thread: E to T please :D

4471.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2010 Sun 02:11 am   Quoting mayradereli Merhaba, I am having a lot of troubles translating this, hope someone could help me. I just begun learning turkish and still it is advanced for me:   "The children wake up later than their father because the school is not so far. Their mother wakes them up at eight. They wash their face and hands, brush their teeth. They comb their hair and get dressed. They put the shirt, pants, jacket, socks and shoes on. After breakfast, they put on their coats and hats and go out to the street. They go to school alone. This year it´s less dangerous than last year to let them go alone. The oldest is nine and the youngest is seven, but he is as tall as his brother. Sometimes their mother accompanies them to the door of the school. If it rains, their father take them to the corner of the school and then continues to go to his office. When leaving the school the children go directly home. They ask permission from their mother to play in the garden or to go and walk in the park."   Thanks in advance!!    Çocuklar babalarından geç uyanır çünkü okul çok uzakta değil. Anneleri onları sekizde uyandırır. Onlar yüzlerini ve ellerini yıkarlar, dişlerini fırçalarlar. Saçlarını tararlar ve giyinirler. Gömleklerini, pantolonlarını, ceketlerini, çoraplarını ve ayakkabılarını giyerler. Kahvaltıdan sonra paltolarını ve şapkalarını giyerler ve sokağa çıkarlar. Okula yalnız giderler. Bu yıl geçen yıla göre onların yalnız gitmeleri için daha az tehlikelidir. En büyüğü dokuz, en küçüğü yedi yaşındadır ama küçüğü abisi kadar uzundur. Bazen anneleri onlara okulun kapısına kadar eşlik eder. Eğer yağmur yağarsa babaları onları okulun köşesine kadar getirir ve sonra offisine gitmeye devam eder. Okuldan çıkarken öğrenciler doğrudan eve giderler. Annelerinden bahçede oynamak ya da parka gidip parkta yürümek için izin isterler.

Thread: Translation

4472.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2010 Sun 01:59 am   Quoting ikicihan I got used to be silent In the times that you love me, I got used to be silent.    I think didn´t is better. Edited (5/30/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Kurdish children jailed in Turkey under anti-terror law

4473.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2010 Sun 01:58 am   Quoting gokuyum         Edited (5/30/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: T to E my attempt

4474.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2010 Sun 01:57 am   Quoting ally81     My try   I think it might be ´anladın mı?´ (correct)   correct me please

Thread: Kurdish children jailed in Turkey under anti-terror law

4475.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 May 2010 Sun 01:44 am   Quoting lady in red     As do we all.   Who exactly are you referring to here?  ´Show off´???  You think people ´pretend´ to care about children so they can ´show off´???   .  Are you sure this is what you meant??     I refer to most of you.If you just chat in front of your computers and don´t take action;you are showing off. The worst part is you are kicking out people who took action like spritzer. You are typical orientalists who talk much as you know everything but do nothing. Yes I do nothing also but I don´t try to save the world with empty words.You can´t save anything or anybody with empty words and without action. You can take Rachel Corrie as an example. You should be either an activist or you shouldn´t talk too loudly.Because one day one can ask you what you did except talking  and you can be ashamed.   Edited (5/30/2010) by gokuyum Edited (5/30/2010) by gokuyum Edited (5/30/2010) by gokuyum Edited (5/30/2010) by gokuyum Edited (5/30/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Please help love problem, English To Turkish,,,,,,,,,

4476.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 May 2010 Sat 03:57 am   Quoting Blue Butterfly         Only you can make things better by treating me and loving me in the way I deserve to be treated   Bana hakettiğim şekilde davranarak ve hakkettiğim şekilde severek işleri daha iyi hale getirebilirsin      You say we always have problems, but this is only because of the way you speak to me and the way you treat me.   Her zaman problemlerimiz olduğunu söylüyorsun ama bunun sebebi benimle konuşma ve bana davranış biçimin.    I know we will be together again, you need to believe me and have faith.  I know how much you truly love me and it is because of this I do not want to give up on us.   Biliyorum tekrar birlikte olacağız. Bana inanmalısın ve inançlı olmalısın. Beni nasıl gerçekten çok sevdiğini biliyorum ve bu yüzden bizden vazgeçmek istemiyorum.    All i want is for us to be happy together, I am not asking a lot of you, only for you to treat me with love and respect as I do for you.   Bizim için tek istediğim birlikte mutlu olmamız. Senden çok şey istemiyorum sadece benim sana davrandığım gibi bana sevgi ve saygıyla davranmanı  istiyorum.   I love you so very deeply and always will   Seni çok içtenlikle seviyorum ve seveceğim.         çok teşekkur ederim         Edited (5/29/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: T to E please :)

4477.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 May 2010 Sat 03:49 am   Quoting help-me-please Thank you   how about this one?    bir hafta´da olsa turkiye´ye gelme imkanim yokmu? bir hafta´da olsa seninle yasmak   istiyorum    Don´t you have an opportunity to come to Turkey even for a week? I want to live with you even for a week.

Thread: Kurdish children jailed in Turkey under anti-terror law

4478.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 May 2010 Sat 03:30 am   Quoting scalpel     Because the hatred makes some exact people here blind to everything.   It is a disgusting tactic that they use their own children in such dangerous demonstrations  just because to put the government in a difficult position.   Who is more guilty: the families or the government?    I condemn all who make these children a part of their political agenda and all who take vengeance on them. And I especially condemn all who want to show off as if they are so much caring for these children. Edited (5/29/2010) by gokuyum Edited (5/29/2010) by gokuyum Edited (5/29/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: turkish to english, please - Thank You

4479.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 May 2010 Fri 11:37 pm   Quoting smiley biliyorum benım sana borcum var mutlaka ödiyecem .ama ınan şu an hıç param yok .bır evım var satmaya calişiyorum satığım zaman mutlaka paranı ödiyecem. evı satmama yardımcı ol lütfen  I know I owe you. I will pay it definitely. But believe me I have no money now. I have only a house and I am trying to sell it. When I sell it, I will pay your money. Please help me to sell the house.   Edited (5/28/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Poem T-E please

4480.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 May 2010 Fri 11:31 pm   Quoting Trudy Another poem of which I only understand some words. Can anyone translate it for me? Teşekkürler in advance!     Farkında olmadan tuttum saclarından ateşin Elimi yakmasada ateş kalbimi yaktı Battım acık yeşil gözlerinin icine ateşin Gözlerimi yakmasada ateş kalbimi yaktı   Without realizing i held the hair of the fire Although it didn´t burn my hand, the fire burnt my heart. I sank into the light green eyes of the fire Although it didn´t burn my eyes, the fire burnt my heart.   (Hayalimde) Öptum incitmeden ateşli dudaklarından ateşin Dudaklarımı yakmasada ateş kalbimi yaktı Sandımki dudaklarından kalbime volkanın lavları aktı Kalbime sakladım ateşi yanlızca kalbimi yaktı Cıksaydı dışarı hem dünyayı hemde herşeyi yakacaktı   (In my imagination) I kissed the fiery lips of fire without hurting Although it didn´t burn my lips, the fire burnt my heart.  I thought the lavas of the volcanos flew from your lips into my heart.  I hided the fire in my heart, it burnt only my heart If it went out, it would burn also the world and also everything.

Thread: is this sentence correct

4481.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 May 2010 Fri 01:41 pm   Quoting beaton30 When I next go to Turkey I would like to thank the maid for cleaning our room. My attempt at this would be:   odamızın temizliği için tesekkür ederim   Please correct as necessary   Thanks

Thread: help with this translation pls

4482.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 May 2010 Fri 03:03 am   Quoting bryang I received a message with this and I wonder if it is part of a poem or something like that. If anyone can translate it for me I´ll be so thankful.   Bir gün beni nasıl paslı bir makasla, nasıl derinden budayıp gittiğini farkettim! Yeni bir filiz veremeyecek kadar derindi kesip attıkların! Sensizlikle oluşmuş hastalığıma senin bile çare olamayacağını, benim için artık çok gecikildiğini anladım.    I realized one day how you had pruned me deeply by scissors and had gone The ones which you had cut and had thrown had been deep enough not to give a new bud. I realized that you couldn´t be a cure to my disease that had occured in your absence, and i realized it was too late for me. Edited (5/28/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Small translation Turkish to English please

4483.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 May 2010 Mon 11:20 pm   Quoting Tulip I found this text written on my facebook under a picture where I looked into the camera? What does it say? I appreciate your translation, thanks!!!   vay vay yiyenim maşşallah yakışmış sana aferin sana enişte dama atıldı papucun yani eskidendi varisin seni solladı     whew whew my nephew. Maşallah ( an expression declaring admiration) It has befitted you.Bravo. So (you say ) brother in law; your shoe was thrown to the roof (your time passed). It was in the past. Your successor overtook you.       varis have two meanings one is varicosis other is succesor     Edited (5/24/2010) by gokuyum Edited (5/24/2010) by gokuyum Edited (5/24/2010) by gokuyum Edited (5/24/2010) by gokuyum Edited (5/24/2010) by gokuyum Edited (5/25/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: t to e

4484.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 May 2010 Mon 11:06 pm   Quoting tomac I have a few questions about this sentence:   1. If I wanted to say something like: "(I´m fine / I have a good day, and) I hope you too have a good day", could I say it this way?   Umarım sen de iyi bir gün geçiriyorsundur. (your translation is better than mine)   2. If yes, does it have exactly the same meaning as gokuyum´s translation?         Or does "umarım ayrıca ..." here mean not "I hope you too..." but "I hope that, besides of all other things, you have a good day" ?    Tomac you are a good learner. Have a nice day.

Thread: help with these 3 ones pls, thanks

4485.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 May 2010 Mon 11:03 pm   Quoting bryang Can you help me with this please? thank you so much forum.   Hadi git benden sana dilediğince izin, öyle bir uzaklaş ki karda kalmasın izin.   yağdırdım ben kışın görmedin mi?     yağma artık yeter.al götür kasvetini de      Here you go. I give you my permission as much as you want. Move away in such a fashion, let your trails not remain on the snow. I made it rain/snow in winter. Didn´t you see it?

Thread: What happened to Burka thread?

4486.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 May 2010 Mon 07:31 am   Quoting stumpy   Quote: Gokuyum You delete a person so quickly. Why don´t you try to understand sev? I guess she has a very dramatic life story.         If having a dramatic life is an excuse to call someone a prostiture, a dog, that our heads are filled with fesses, to tell someone that he or she has taken pleasure in the death of peopel in the earthquake then maybe I should start speaking like sev.  I tried to understand her but to no avail.   I have had a hard life but I do not act like sev, I have to much dignety and respect to do so.  I took offense when she called me a prostitute, I took offense when she called me a dog but I tried very hard to stay calm with her.   The straw that broke the camel´s back, Gokuyum, is when sev told me that I took pleasure in the deaths of peole in the earthquake.  I lost friends in the earthquake in question.   So no, having a dramatic life does not permit you to treat others the way sev has and does not exempte you from following the rules implemented on TC.     You are right too   Edited (5/24/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: t to e

4487.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 May 2010 Sun 10:12 pm   Quoting karinalinares I hope you are also having a good day +)    Umarım ayrıca iyi bir gün geçiriyorsundur.

Thread: e to t

4488.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 May 2010 Sun 10:11 pm   Quoting karinalinares muito obrigada! that´s how we say thank you in portuguese . I look forward to meet you next time I go to Turkey hope you had a great weekend ! xoxo    muito obrigada. Biz Portekizce´de böyle teşekkür ederim diyoruz. Bir dahaki sefer Türkiye´ye gittiğimde seninle tanışmak için sabırsızlanıyorum. Umarım harika bir haftasonu geçirmişsindir.

Thread: What happened to Burka thread?

4489.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 May 2010 Sun 10:08 pm   Quoting istanbulluguy   oh yes i think so she will do again must be because she had  extreemly knowledge,mind and entellectual thoughts otherwise it could be a big wasted for this web site and i belive in case the spritzer turn back again i will see her then continue our music conversations    "You can kill a man but you can´t kill an idea."

Thread: What happened to Burka thread?

4490.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 May 2010 Sun 10:06 pm You delete a person so quickly. Why don´t you try to understand sev? I guess she has a very dramatic life story.

Thread: e to t please

4491.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 May 2010 Sun 07:09 pm   Quoting cerys123 thank you everyone for all your help are you still working end of august i can come to marmaris then do you knwo any hotels near sams bar. would be nice to see you all again i am going to work now my number    Yardımınız için hepinize teşekkür ederim.   Ağustos sonunda hala çalışıyor olacak mısın(ız)? Marmaris´e gelebilirim. Sam´in barına yakın bir otel biliyor musun(uz)? Hepinizi tekrar görmek hoş olurdu. Şimdi işe gidiyorum. Numaram.....

Thread: Ghandi Kemal is coming

4492.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 May 2010 Sun 07:06 pm   Quoting thehandsom ´Gandhi´ Kemal’s long march   Those who argue that Kemal Kiliçdaroglu lacks the charisma and ability to lead had to be present at the Republican People’s Party, or CHP, convention Saturday in Ankara to see how wrong they were. He brought not only his own manner of politics but also a wave of hope for the social democrats, who have not been in power since the mid-1990s. .... We are not only electing the head of our party but the next prime minister,.... Long live the left, long live social democracy and long live the Republican People’s Party, he said, ... The party’s leftist values lagged behind the more important issues related with the continuity of the secular and republican regime threatened by the AKP ... Unlike during former leader Deniz Baykal’s era, the ongoing case of Ergenekon, ... was also not on the convention’s agenda. Baykal, however, had described himself as an advocate of Ergenekon,. pushing the party to defend the suspects in the case. Another difference between this convention and previous ones was the signs of a developing democracy within the party. Those who requested time to address the convention were given the floor without exception. .... http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=gandhi-kemal8217s-long-march-to-power-in-turkey-begins-with-convention-of-hope-2010-05-22   I must say, I have never seen CHP and its delegates so excited. All the people who left the party  are coming back.. I hope CHP leaves its racist/fascist rethorics and takes itself to center-left into political spectrum,  which a social democrat party would naturally be.. And there might be a real hope of winning the next election..      I support him for now. Hope he doesn´t disappoint me.

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4493.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 May 2010 Sun 01:25 pm   Quoting karinalinares I have many wishes for my life, but I am still confused about what I want.One thing is for sure, one day I want a big family   I am happy with my  life because I´ve been living a lot, I am having great moments in america, Ive made very good friends, I am learning a lot. The bad part is that I miss the ones I love, but I hope I will see them soon.        Hayatım için bir çok dileğim var. Ama hala ne istediğim hakkında kafam karışık. Kesin olan bir şey varsa, o da büyük bir aileye sahip olmak istediğimdir.   Hayatımdan memnunum çünkü dolu dolu yaşıyorum. Amerikada harika zaman geçiriyorum ve çok iyi arkadaşlar edindim. Çok şeyler öğreniyorum. Kötü olan ise sevdiklerimi özlemem. Ama umarım onları yakında göreceğim.

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4494.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 May 2010 Sun 01:20 pm   Quoting karinalinares I have some goals for life, such as learning turkish, graduate, get a job, have my house....and others...    Hayat için(bu hayatta) bazı hedeflerim var. Türkçe öğrenmek, mezun olmak, iş sahibi olmak, ev sahibi olmak gibi....ve diğerleri.... Edited (5/23/2010) by gokuyum

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4495.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 May 2010 Sun 01:17 pm   Quoting gokuyum          There are some irregularities in the formings of some sentences. I corrected them. Check carefully.

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4496.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 May 2010 Sun 01:14 pm   Quoting karinalinares 1- NY is not as expensive as Zeynep said- NY Zeyneb´in söylediği kadar pahalı değil   2- She doesn´t hate her neighbor as much as she hates me - benden nefret ediği kadar komşusundan nefret etmiyor   3-this exam was not apparently as difficult as you feared- bu sınav korktuğun kadar zor değilmiş   4- my father is not as rich as your father - benim babam baban kadar zengin değil   5- I didn´t like this dessert as much as I liked baklava - bu tatlıyı baklavayı sevdiğim kadar sevmedim   6- I didn´t like this dessert as much as baklava -bu tatlıyı baklava kadar sevmedim   7- we didn´t stay in Turkey as long as you assumed - Türkye´de sandığın kadar uzun kalmadık   8- you saw that this class was not as difficult as you complained -bu ders gördüğün gibi sızlandığın kadar  zor olmadı     :S  thanks

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4497.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 May 2010 Sat 08:32 pm   Quoting Jeth gercek olacak kadar çok iyi..    gerçek olamayacak kadar çok iyi

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4498.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 May 2010 Sat 08:24 pm   Quoting jo8a Hi guys, How would you say ´too good to be true´ in Turkish. Thanks in advance J    Gerçek olmak için fazla iyi.

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4499.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 May 2010 Sat 01:03 pm   Quoting melek08 Please Don’t Tell Me Lütfen Söyleme Bana Please don´t tell me that you understand Unless your loved one is fighting for our land Please don´t tell me that you feel my pain Unless you know the heartache that pours through my veins   Lütfen bana anladığını söyleme Senin de sevdiğin ülkesi için savaşmadıkça Lütfen acımı hissettiğini söyleme bana Damarlarımda akan kalp ağrısını sen de bilmedikçe Please don´t tell me that things will get better Unless you wait for the mailman for one single letter Please don´t tell me that the holidays will be fine Unless you will be alone like I will this time    Lütfen bana her şeyin düzeleceğini söyleme Bir tane mektup için sen de postacıyı beklemedikçe Tatillerin iyi olacağını söyleme bana Bu sefer benim olduğum gibi sen de yalnız olmadıkça Please don´t tell me that I shouldn´t cry Unless you´re dealing with the military and can understand why Please don´t tell me that I should be tough Unless you´ve been through it and know that it is rough   Lütfen ağlamamam gerektiğini söyleme bana Sen de orduyla uğraşmadıkça ve niçin olduğunu anlamadıkça Lütfen güçlü olmam gerektiğini söyleme bana Sen de aynı şeyleri yaşamadıkça ve onun zor olduğunu bilmedikçe Please don´t tell me that time will go by fast Unless you´re going through this or have in the past Please don´t tell me that my heart will mend Unless you have ideas for the care packages I send   Lütfen zamanın hızla geçeceğini söyleme bana Sen de aynı şeyi yaşamadıkça veya geçmişte yaşamış olmadıkça Lütfen kalbimin iyileşeceğini söyleme bana Gönderdiğim ilgi paketleri hakkında fikirlerin olmadıkça Please don´t tell me to try to live life Unless you happen to be a military wife Please don´t tell me that things are okay Unless you are missing someone deployed today    Lütfen bana hayatı yaşamayı denemelisin deme Sen de bir asker eşi olmadıkça Lütfen bana her şey yolunda deme Sen de bugün  görevlendirilmiş birini özlemedikçe       Edited (5/22/2010) by gokuyum

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4500.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 May 2010 Sat 12:43 pm   Quoting lady in red     I think this is very difficult/almost impossible to translate properly into Turkish.  The words ´hickory dickory dock´ are totally meaningless in English. I thought I´d have a go though.   Hickory dickory dock - *+(no meaning) The mouse ran up the clock - Fare saati koşarak tırmandı The clock struck one - Saat biri çaldı The mouse ran down - Fare aşağıya koştu. Hickory dickory dock - (no meaning)   Hickory dickory dock needs to be translated by some nonsense Turkish words that fit the rhythm of the rhyme.

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4501.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 May 2010 Sat 12:40 pm   Quoting cerys123 i hope you remember me cerys from wales i am so sorry for your loss my heart broke when i found out the bad news about geordie i send my condolences and love to all your family, i still look at his photo everyday and cry. i was planning to come over this summer, now i dont think i can face it, i dont understand how this can happen to such an amazing friend if you ever need to talk i am here take care love always cerys Umarım beni hatırlarsın. Ben Galler´den Cerys.. Kaybın için çok üzgünüm. Geordie hakkındaki kötü haberleri duyduğumda kalbim burkuldu. Tüm ailene taziyelerimi ve sevgilerimi gönderiyorum. Hala fotoğrafına bakıyorum ve ağlıyorum. Bu yaz gelmeyi planlıyordum ama artık bununla yüzleşebileceğimi sanmıyorum. Bu kadar iyi bir dostun başına bu nasıl gelir anlamıyorum. Eğer konuşmak ihtiyacı duyarsan ben buradayım. Kendine iyi bak. Sevgilerle cerys. (and next letter please) i miss you geordie i hope the angels are looking after you in heaven, no one will ever understand the pain i felt after hearing such bad news, you are in my heart forever and always you were a true friend god bless Geordie seni özlüyorum. Umarım melekler sana cennette bakıyorlardır. Bu kötü haberi duyduğumda hissettiğim acıyı kimse anlayamaz. Sen sonsuza dek benim kalbimdesin ve sen herzaman gerçek bir arkadaştın. Tanrı seni kutsasın. thank you so much to anyone who can help me with this it means alot

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4502.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 May 2010 Sat 12:35 am   Quoting scalpel Poor gokuyum, give ear to Niccolo Machiavelli :   "Power is the pivot on which everything hinges.He who has the power is always right; the weaker is always wrong."   And "the weaker" here  is you.        I like weakers.

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4503.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 May 2010 Sat 12:29 am I don´t want to argue anymore. I think spritzer will come back with a new nick. She can defend herself. Bye. Edited (5/22/2010) by gokuyum

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4504.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 May 2010 Sat 12:23 am   Quoting Daydreamer     Don´t forget the rules you compare to Nazi Germany are not imposed on anyone. Deciding to join TC, you learn and either accept the rules or you don´t.   And again, Spritzer was deleted not because she didn´t like Elisabeths pictures but because she used personal insults.   Would you like TC admins to allow personal insults on this site? I doubt it...    I don´t compare directly. I am giving an example. Spritzer says they insulted me, they provoked me, they mocked me. I believe her. TC Admins shouldn´t allow themselves to do these things also. If they do, you know the name of such an administration.

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4505.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 May 2010 Sat 12:16 am   Quoting Daydreamer Gokuyum, I think you can´t see the difference between criticism and personal insults. As a matter of fact, i have no idea what insults Spritzer posted but I trust admins they had basis to terminate her membership.   On this very site we´ve had millions of arguments and nobody has ever been deleted simply because they didn´t agree with someone or because they found somebody´s ideas ridiculous. The only rule is not to insult other members personally.   I believe most members have been warned at least once or had their posts deleted - they had all the right to express their resentment via PM to the admins rather than continuing in public.   If I remember correctly, all personal matters should be dealt with the same way, ie via PMs. If you find somebody´s PMs insulting, you may mark their messages as spam, choose to ignore this person or report the message to the admins.   It has never happened that a person was deleted without warning. However, if despite warnings you continue to behave in a way admins found unruly, then you have to face  consequences. It´s actually quite simple.   I understand you are not happy about your friend having been deleted. As you can see, you´re free to say it in public. You like only those that agree with you - fine. Others, like myself, do not dislike a person only because they disagree. I must say I´ve enjoyed all discussions here and I really appreciate the input of people of other opinions. I might not agree with them, but I still value and like them.    I respect your ideas. I am searching for one to respect my ideas too. It is so hard to find such a person. If you are right, it is more difficult than ever. There is a saying in Turkish "Doğru söyleyeni dokuz köyden kovarlar." I think this saying is completely true. Have a nice day.

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4506.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 May 2010 Sat 12:12 am   Quoting thehandsom     Well you believe whatever you like.. But anybody coming up and saying that "that picture is insulting so it MUST be removed" is WRONG.. You can be Jesus/Mohammed/admin/spritzer/Obama..It does not matter.. It is WRONG..      Everybody has a right to say what they want unless they use force like the administration did. Having rules and performing them don´t make anybody right. Those rules may be unjust or or they can be performed unjust. Don´t forget there were rules in Nazi German too. But they had also a dictator dictated everything too.

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4507.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 May 2010 Sat 12:00 am   Quoting gezegen I know neither of you, never had chance, reason or excuse to cantact you, to follow your posts, to communicate with you. Except, spritzer, that you once involved in my posts and made me angry. And I didn´t follow the recent discussion properly. Whether or not you used a ´foul language´, I will put this aside now. There was something very obvious and clear in your effort - that you seemed (and believed) that you are right - no matter about what. I felt and found in your struggle the fact that you were perhaps unjustly treated, weren´t given chance or opportunity to make your point. That´s why I wanted and decided to help you with a translation that you posted in the translation section.   As for you, gokuyum, in my opinion one should support and second their friend exactly the way you have done for spritzer, if one thinks that their friend is unjustly treated or victim, even though everyone else is against and opposite. Your arguments, claims and aproach to spritzer-subject showed me that you must also be right in whatever you has intended about spritzer.   I do greet both of your struggle and have now sympathy for you both!  Thank you gezegen for your supporting comments. I couldn´t let a dear friend down. If it was possible I wanted to be deleted instead of her. She is such a nice and humanist person. She cares a lot for poor and ill-treated people. She was right on the matter she defended. She is like a martyr for me telling the truths without being afraid. I think they will kick me out soon. But let me say i loved this site. At least i met with spritzer here and met with a lot of good people. If they delete me too, know that i don´t regret anything.   Edited (5/22/2010) by gokuyum

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4508.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 May 2010 Fri 11:48 pm   Quoting thehandsom   I think, this should stop now It is obvious to everybody that spritzer was WRONG to ask that picture deleted.. She was told she was wrong..She has no right to ask that picture to be deleted... She got angry when she could not get what she wanted.. She started to use insulting language..she got her replies..she was warned to tone down.. She knew she would be deleted if she did not.. She could have  apologized  and shown grace and toned it down..But she did not.. Her choice!! We should respect her wish..    If you say wrong, it must be true. I believe more she is right now. Edited (5/21/2010) by gokuyum

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4509.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 May 2010 Fri 11:26 pm   Quoting Elisabeth      I am not the one throwing stones, gokuyum.    You are guilty Elizabeth accept it. And correct your mistake. Apologizing is a virtue too. If i were you, I had apologized long time ago. Because your picture and your words were provoking. You shouldn´t have deleted a person who criticized you. And even you were the one who was wrong. Finding these pictures funny is the same thing finding funny a picture of man was eaten by a lion too. You provoked spritzer and made her insult you. You are as guilty as her. Edited (5/21/2010) by gokuyum Edited (5/21/2010) by gokuyum

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4510.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 May 2010 Fri 11:18 pm   Quoting Elisabeth      I guess that won´t be you or I then?  You and your forum friends are definetely not.

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4511.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 May 2010 Fri 11:12 pm   Quoting Elisabeth     Well, If I choose to take your "shrink" remark as a personal attack, I guess I could...but I don´t think the inference that I am mentally ill is so much an attack on me as it is an attack on people who are mentally ill (which I am not...yet).  I invite other members of the class to PM me if they feel insulted by your "shrink" comment.    Does that seem fair enough for you?     Let him who is without sin, throw the first stone. It was not an attack to mentally-ill people, it was to you. But if you consider yourself mentally-ill than it was an attack to a mentally ill person. If you represent them all you can delete me. Edited (5/21/2010) by gokuyum

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4512.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 May 2010 Fri 10:59 pm   Quoting lemon     offffff. if you go it will be boring here. you know its not fair to leave me with this bunch of clowns and simpletons esp. after hairy joined (may him be deleted asap).    I thought you didn´t like me. Edited (5/21/2010) by gokuyum

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4513.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 May 2010 Fri 10:44 pm   Quoting Elisabeth      OK gokuyum.  Are you asking me to delete you?     If you think it is fair. Why not?

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4514.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 May 2010 Fri 10:36 pm   Quoting gokuyum      I know a shrink who can help you.    You can use this sentence as an excuse if you want to delete me. You don´t need to keep an eye on me like you did to spritzer. Ok Elizabeth? Edited (5/21/2010) by gokuyum

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4515.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 May 2010 Fri 10:32 pm   Quoting Elisabeth      Didn´t we have a "doctor" as a member some years back.  Someone please find him for me!    I know a shrink who can help you.

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4516.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 May 2010 Fri 10:27 pm   Quoting girleegirl      Let me ask you something....do you think it was appropriate for spritzer to call people simpletons?    girleegirl i could say the same thing if you provoked me as much as her.

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4517.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 May 2010 Fri 10:21 pm   Quoting Elisabeth      This speaks volumes...you don´t like anyone who disagrees with your point of view.    She and you insulted her too.

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4518.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 May 2010 Fri 09:27 pm   Quoting lemon     This post was for handsome. not necesarily about spritzer. I didnt know what spritzer wrote. I just hate the idea of deleting things so easily, it shows zero respect for people who participate in discussions. Suddenly posts disappear and then users.   Yes, if you ask me, it was only LIR who was the most fair and competent admin on this site.    I thought so. LIR seemed like a very nice person. But I guess she is not how she seems. She found pictures funny and she argued with spritzer.   Edited (5/21/2010) by gokuyum

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4519.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 May 2010 Fri 09:23 pm   Quoting istanbulluguy i am really confused and dissapoint that such a social useful turkish class web server i have doubts since spritzer deleted she was says to me i love to share my kind thoughts  on turkish class about everthing but unfortunatly the admistiration is not wisdom AS MUCH AS  like her they couldnt beat her thoughts kindly then deleted as remedy  all i understood  Please tell how admins provoked you. You can write Turkish, i will translate them.

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4520.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 May 2010 Fri 09:20 pm   Quoting catwoman Gokuyum, the reasons for deleting spritzer have been explained multiple times at this point, and it has been explained to you that ´provocation´ is not considered by this site an excuse to break forum rules. I see no point in engaging in further discussion about this.    You don´t consider it as an excuse because you are doing it. You did it to spritzer and istanbulluguy. Am i wrong?

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4521.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 May 2010 Fri 09:17 pm   Quoting admin       I keep hearing that she was provoked so badly. What does this mean? What was said to her? Please say it openly instead of just implying things. "Some admins provoked her" sounds too much like simple mud-slinging.      She doesn´t want to defence herself and she doesn´t want to be in this forum. She is such a dear friend to me. And i believe her with all my heart. She is the good one. You are not.

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4522.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 May 2010 Fri 09:06 pm   Quoting Elisabeth      Chat records are kept gokuyum.  There is no reason for asking anyone who said what.  No admin provoked her...unless you consider just being in the chat room at the same time a provocation.    give me the chat records of last three days please.

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4523.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 May 2010 Fri 09:01 pm Be neutral.

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4524.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 May 2010 Fri 08:59 pm   Quoting admin     You are not talking to a 5 year old. I don´t get all pumped up by a comment like "are you brave enough". She insulted people, got warned, and the next day made some nasty personal attacks and got deleted. There is nothing to defend or explain.    Some of admins and members provoked her countless times when she was chatting with istanbulluguy. She didn´t answer them. Ask admins if you want. Let her defend herself.

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4525.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 May 2010 Fri 08:49 pm   Quoting admin     Thanks for making your point. If there is a valid complaint there is no reason why you shouldn´t mention it though.    Let spritzer defend herself. You can return her to defend herself for a little time. Are you brave enough to do this?

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4526.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 May 2010 Fri 08:40 pm   Quoting admin   You are mixing things up just to support your point. If someone swears to your mom or wife, that is dealt with as a personal attack and not as a provocation. That is reason for potential account deletion, with or without warning.    This is also a provocation. I made my point. I am not telling how some of administrators provoked her in chat room while she was speaking with istanbulguy about music. Hope he will tell everything. You are bad. I am bad. I guess only good one is killed.   I guess you deleted İstanbulguy too. Good job. Cover your trails. Edited (5/21/2010) by gokuyum

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4527.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 May 2010 Fri 08:23 pm  I made my point. I will not argue anymore. I saw your real faces.

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4528.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 May 2010 Fri 08:21 pm   Quoting zeytinne You think you are very smart... do you think i forgot ? İ will be here to remember your statemens you made that time... dont worry     Edited (5/21/2010) by gokuyum

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4529.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 May 2010 Fri 08:13 pm   Quoting thehandsom     I think she has mixed up the things.. I stayed in that area for almost 3 years. Do not tell me and lecture me about how they were living.. Her idea (and yours) about those pictures are mocking these women were laughable.. And nothing to do with humanism at all.. It only shows sense of humour failure and looking for a reason to show off to me..    It is not humorous. It shows you have a sick taste of humor to me. I didn´t laugh the pictures of tortured Iraqis taken by American soldiers too. I am sure somebody laughed at them too. But I did not. You can blame me lacking of humor and I can blame you lacking of humanity. Edited (5/21/2010) by gokuyum Edited (5/21/2010) by gokuyum

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4530.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 May 2010 Fri 08:08 pm   Quoting admin   Yes, we expect users to be mature enough to keep their integrity under provocation. As an example, Spritzer was not deleted despite lots of provoking posts. She got deleted for personal attacks.    You can´t expect such a thing. It is something like somebody can swear to your mom or your wife and you mustn´t attack him. Because you must be mature enough. Judge even can find you innocent in this situation because of provocation. You shouldn´t allow provocation in the first place. If you do, you can´t have a right to delete a person who insults.

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4531.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 May 2010 Fri 08:01 pm   Quoting admin     That is true, there was never full freedom of speech here and we never claimed there is. Racism is not allowed, personal insults are not allowed, swearing is not allowed etc. For some reason this makes some people uncomfortable.   One thing to keep in mind while waging such criticism is that TC is a private community site kept up mostly by volunteer efforts. It is not the job of the admins/mods here to untangle the mess created by nonsense, flammatory messages. We have a set of simple rules, not always followed perfectly, but used to keep the site decent while not putting lots of burden on the people maintaining this site.    You delete a whole topic on your own. Our all posts were deleted because of you. Nobody knows and decide on their own because you delete them. If you want to move a topic you must move it with all posts in it. But you delete them and move it. Some of you don´t even move but delete the whole topic. I am not sure will you delete this topic too. Should i have a copy of this topic. What is your advice?   I am here to help people and myself. In two months I translated lots of texts. But your undemocratic actions affects me badly. I lose my motivation. Please be mature enough and correct your mistake. This is about freedom of speech not about you. Do the right thing. Edited (5/21/2010) by gokuyum Edited (5/21/2010) by gokuyum

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4532.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 May 2010 Fri 07:51 pm   Quoting admin     We have clear rules that personal insults are not allowed on this site and can result in account deletion. If someone continues to make personal attacks/insults against other members after being warned, we consider the option of account deletion. Otherwise this forum would be like a nuthouse that many of the complainers here would find not worth visiting. This has nothing to do with freedom of speech, just simple rules to keep order.    But you allow provocation i guess.

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4533.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 May 2010 Fri 07:51 pm   Quoting admin     Your posts are still here, so obviously it is not negative opinions that is deleted.   As for the insults, you don´t see the deleted messages so you don´t know the full extent of the things said and done after multiple warnings.    Some admins provoked her. I am a witness. They mocked her and deleted some of her posts. They are as guilty as spritzer. They were never neutral on this subject.

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4534.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 May 2010 Fri 07:46 pm   Quoting thehandsom     Exactly.. She and some others ridiculously tried to lynch somebody´s right to put up a picture into her profile here.. Freedom of speech doe not mean you can "ban something because you dont agree with it".. And that person took her anger into level of insult.. That is all..      They provoked her and made her insult. They mocked her, deleted her messages. This is a provocation. But you know what the big provocation is? It is "mocking those poor women who want to get education". This was the biggest provocation. Spritzer witnessed how those poor girls and women live. She was in Afghanistan for a time. And she witnessed very bad things towards women. She helped them. This made her very sensible on that matter. She is an humanist. And I am proud of having such a friend. She doesn´t sit and talk like us but she goes and helps people. She defended her ideas but you provoked her. Administration wasn´t neutral on this matter. They must correct their mistakes.They are as guilty as spritzer. They must resign or give spritzer her membership back. Edited (5/21/2010) by gokuyum

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4535.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 May 2010 Fri 07:17 pm   Quoting thehandsom     Asking people not to draw, not to write, not to speak, not to talk is fascism. It does not matter where it comes from.. It can come from an angry crowd in pakistan with the demand ´not to publish cartoons´, it can come from an angry person who needs cold shower with the demand ´take down your burka picture´. They both are the same fascism.. Everybody needs to learn how to be tolerant and have some sense of humour.. !!!!  I think everybody has a right to write what he/she thinks. And everybody has a right also not to agree. Not agreeing isn´t a crime but deleting a person who doesn´t agree is a crime against freedom of speech. Somebody must correct this mistake. Anyone can ask you for anything. It is not a crime unless they use power. Administration used power here.   Edited (5/21/2010) by gokuyum Edited (5/21/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: T-E please

4536.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 May 2010 Fri 07:10 pm   Quoting Trudy Can someone translate the poem below? I got it from a friend and apart from a few words I don´t know what it says. I have the idea it´s a love poem, but that´s almost all I get. If there are mistakes then they are most likely mine, as the poem was handwritten.   Çok teşekkürler in advance!     Ne kadar güzel tatlı bir duygudur Sesiz bir gecede ateşin karşısında oturmak Soguk yada sıcak icecegini sakınce yudumlarken Ateşin loş ışıginda ateşin sıcaklığın duymak Yanan ateşin sesiz cıtırdısında huzuru bulmak   Gel sen bu duyguları birde ateşe sor Kendini yakarak ışık veren Kendini yakarak sıcaklık veren Kendını yakarak huzur ve mutluluk veren ATEŞE   Ne kadar güzel tatlı bir duygudur Sevilmek, özlenmek, aşık olunmak Romantik şiirler aşk dolu sözler duymak Asıgın maşuguna aşkını ilan etmesi Aşık dil dökerken maşuğun maz ermesi   Gel sen bu duyguları birde ateşe sor Aşkın ateşiyle yanan aşıga Dil sesiz, kelmeler yetersiz, kalem caresiz        Well I would want it you seem like a very democratic person.

Thread: What happened to Burka thread?

4537.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 May 2010 Fri 07:06 pm Someone killed freedom of speech here. You are getting angry when Muslims protest the Mohammed cartoons. You say it is freedom of speech. Well let me say you are not different from those fanatics. Now return the membership of spritzer and apologize.

Thread: Eng to Turk - thanks so much

4538.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 May 2010 Fri 07:00 pm   Quoting Suzie I am sorry to hear about your dad.  He has been through so much.  Will they continue with the chemotherapy?    Babab için üzgünüm. O çok şeyleri atlattı. Kemoterapiye devam edecekler mi?

Thread: What happened to Burka thread?

4539.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 May 2010 Fri 06:48 pm Wow! What a democratic site! You are crying every time "freedom of speech." But you can´t stand one negative opinion. I am sure you will say she insulted you but let me say you insulted her. Now I will go on translating to help people, but I have no respect for admins and their supporters.

Thread: T to E my attempt :-)

4540.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 May 2010 Fri 06:24 pm   Quoting Inscrutable Yatsı namazı kılmak mısın ? Have performed Yatsı namaz?   Thank You    Yatsı namazını kıldın mı? Did you perform the nocturn prayer? Edited (5/21/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: english to turkish please

4541.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 May 2010 Fri 06:20 pm   Quoting solak this is the way we brush our teeth brush our teeth brush our teeth this is the way we brush our teeth on warm and sunny morning   böyle fırçalarız dişlerimizi fırçalarız dişlerimizi, fırçalarız dişlerimizi böyle fırçalarız dişlerimizi sıcak ve güneşli bir sabah      this is the way we wash our face wash our face, wash our face this is the way we wash our face on a warm and sunny morning   böyle yıkarız yüzlerimizi yıkarız yüzlerimizi, yıkarız yüzlerimizi böyle yıkarız yüzlerimizi sıcak ve güneşli bir sabah.    this the way we comb our hair comb our hair, comb our hair this is the way we comb our hair on a warm and sunny morning   böyle tararız saçlarımızı, tararız saçlarımızı, tararız saçlarımızı böyle tararız saçlarımızı sıcak ve güneşli bir sabah      this is the way we put on our clothes put on our clothes, put on our clothes this is the way we put on our clothes on a warm and sunny morning   böyle giyeriz giysilerimizi giyeriz giysilerimizi, giyeriz giysilerimizi böyle giyeriz giysilerimizi sıcak ve güneşli bir sabah.

Thread: turkish t english please

4542.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 May 2010 Fri 02:43 pm   Quoting sam1   Bazları hakediyor bunu ama insani tarafımız buna izin vermez sanırım  Somebody deserve this but I guess our humanistic side doesn´t allow this.

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4543.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 May 2010 Thu 10:38 am   Quoting Emil Erman     my try:   is it you there under the umbrella, ill-balanced (or mentally unbalanced) or? very handsome -len how much he resembles me, doesn´t he? If I didn´t know your body became triangular  i will/would say this is him.   hope it helps!

Thread: turkish to english please

4544.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 May 2010 Thu 10:24 am   Quoting clare105 This is home for me.  Its where you should be.    Bu benim için bir yuva. O senin de olman gereken yer. (Literal)   Burası benim için bir yuvadır ve sen de burada olmalısın. (much better)

Thread: Transltion Turkish to English....I understand some parts but need help with corrections

4545.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 May 2010 Thu 10:09 am Quote: "ikinizde küçüklüğümden beri tanıdığım insanlarsınız ve aynı mahallelerde büyüdük You are both people who I have known since my childhood and we grew up in the same neighbourhood. allah ikinizinde gönlüne göre verdi birbirinize çok yakıştınız şimdiden allah mesut etsin God gave according to how your hearts wanted. You befitted each other very much. May Allah make you happy. ben şun an asker olduğum için düğününüzede gelemeyeceğim sanırım. bir ömür boyu mutluluklkar dilerim" Because I am a soldıer at the moment I thınk I won´t be able to come (I don´t think I will be able to come) to your wedding. I wish you a long life of happiness. from what I understand its about growing up together in the same neighbourhood and now being a miltary and not being able to attend to a wedding or something like that? I dont know, I will wait for someone with more knowledge to correct me =))   Edited (5/20/2010) by gokuyum Edited (5/20/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: English to Turkish please

4546.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 May 2010 Wed 08:31 pm   Quoting helpplease Your son is coming home to you. His reason is that he hates it here and that he hates everyone, even the people who have cared for him and loved him. He has not argued with anyone, he just wants to go. I have done everything for him and I would die for him but it is not good enough. I am absolutely heartbroken because i love him more than life itself but I can´t beg him anymore and I have no energy left to be treated so badly by him.   I will always love you all and I hope you never forget me.    Oğlun eve, sana geliyor. Sebebi ise buradan ve herkesten hatta ona değer veren ve onu sevenden bile nefret etmesi. Kimseyle tartışmadı, sadece gitmek istiyor. Onun için her şeyi yaptım. Onun için ölürdüm ama bu bile onun için yeterli değildi. Kalbim kesinlikle kırık çünkü onu hayattan bile çok seviyorum ama ona daha fazla yalvaramam. Onun tarafından bu kadar kötü davranılmaya katlanacak enerjim kalmadı. Seni her zaman seveceğim ve umarım beni hiç unutmazsın.

Thread: english t turkish please

4547.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 May 2010 Wed 08:23 pm   Quoting Henry   Hi Gokuyum, I noticed stomach pain was mentioned, not throat pain. Should this be midemde instead, or are you using this so the message receivers don´t worry?      You are right. I was confused. I will modify it.

Thread: Turkish-English, text message

4548.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 May 2010 Wed 08:21 pm   Quoting dreamkie Another text message:   bana sormustun gercekten bir kiz arkadasin yokmu diye peki senin gibi guzel bir kizin gercekten erkek arkadasi yokmu? seni seviyorum iyi aksamlar optum    You have asked me whether you have a girl friend or not. Allright doesnt such a beautiful girl like you have a boy friend? I love you. Have a good night. I kiss you.

Thread: T to E my attempt :-)

4549.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 May 2010 Wed 08:19 pm   Quoting Gülümseme      I just say   sıkıldım    sıkkınım means also i am not in my mood. We say generally sıkıldım as gülümseme said.

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4550.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 May 2010 Wed 07:24 pm   Quoting spritzer     zarfı kıvırmayın, içindeki resimler zarar görebilir is correct or you could just write what they do anyways and that is  kıvır onu, kır onu, al onu! maybe they won´t listen to it    you may be right

Thread: english to turkish please

4551.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 May 2010 Wed 01:11 pm   Quoting solak   WHEN GOLDILOCKS WENT TO THE HOUSE OF THE BEARS Goldilocks ayıların evine gittiğinde        When Goldilocks went to the house of the bears Goldilocks ayıların evine gittiğinde  Oh, what did her blue eyes see? Ah, mavi gözleri neler gördü?  A bowl that was big Bir kase ki büyük  A bowl that was small Bir kase ki küçük  A bowl that was tiny and that was all  Bir kase ki minik ve hepsi buydu. She counted them…1…2…3! Onları saydı...bir...iki...üç!  When Goldilocks went to the house of the bears Goldilocks ayıların evine gittiğinde  Oh, what did her blue eyes see? Ah, mavi gözleri neler gördü?  A chair that was big Bir sandalye ki büyük  A chair that was small Bir sandalye ki küçük  A chair that was tiny and that was all Bir sandalye ki minik ve hepsi buydu!  She counted them…1…2…3! Saydı onları...bir...iki...üç!  When Goldilocks went to the house of the bears Goldilocks ayıların evine gittiğinde  Oh, what did her blue eyes see? Ah, mavi gözleri neler gördü?  A bed that was big Bir yatak ki büyük  A bed that was small Bir yatak ki küçük  A bed that was tiny and that was all Bir yatak ki minik ve hepsi buydu!  She counted them…1…2…3! Saydı onları...bir...iki...üç!  When Goldilocks went to the house of the bears Goldilocks ayıların evine gittiğinde  Oh, what did her blue eyes see? Ah, mavi gözleri neler gördü?    A bear that was big Bir ayı ki büyük  A bear that was small Bir ayı ki küçük  A bear that was tiny and that was all Bir ayı ki minik ve hepsi buydu    And they growled at her…ROAR ROAR ROAR Hırladılar ona...RIRR, RIRR, RIRR             Edited (5/19/2010) by gokuyum Edited (5/19/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: turkish to english please

4552.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 May 2010 Wed 01:01 pm Best wishes from me too.

Thread: english t turkish please

4553.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 May 2010 Wed 01:00 pm   Quoting sam1 hi we arer happy also, i am only about 6 weeks so we dont no sex of baby till im 20 weeks its still very early so i have to take it easy i was at hospital last week as was getting bad pains in my stomach but so far all is good, aleyna is very happy she wanted brother or sister for long time, take care and cant wait to come to turkey hopefully this year    selam biz de mutluyuz.Sadece 6 hafta civarındayım bu yüzden bebeğin cinsiyetini 20 haftalık olana kadar bilemeyeceğiz. Bu yüzden ağır olmalıyım. Geçen hafta hastanedeydim ve midemde kötü acılar vardı. Ama şimdi herşey yolunda. Aleyna çok mutlu uzun zamandır erkek ya da kız kardeş istiyordu. Kendine iyi bak. Türkiye´ye dönmek için sabırsızlanıyorum. Umarım bu yıl (dönerim) Edited (5/19/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: What is love? E - T

4554.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 May 2010 Wed 10:27 am   Quoting melek08 A group of professional people posed this question to a group of 4 to 8 year-olds, "What does love mean?" Bir grup profesyonel insan 4-8 yaş arası bir grup çocuğa şu soruyu yöneltti." Aşk ne anlama gelir?" The answers they got were broader and deeper than anyone could have imagined. See what they think:  Aldıkları cevaplar kimsenin tahmin edebileceğinden daha geniş ve derindi. Bakın ne düşünüyorlar: "When my grandmother got arthritis, she couldn´t bend over and paint her toenails anymore. Büyükannem arthritise yakalandığında artık eğilip ayak tırnaklarını boyayamıyordu So my grandfather does it for her all the time, even when his hands got arthritis too. That´s love." Böylece onun elleri de arthritise yakalandığı zaman bile büyükbabam bunu onun için her zaman yapıyordu. İşte bu aşktır. - Rebecca - age 8 Rebecca - 8 yaş "When someone loves you, the way they say your name is different. Birileri sizi sevdiğinde, adınızı söyleme şekilleri farklıdır. You just know that your name is safe in their mouth." Bilirsiniz ki adınız onların ağzında güvendedir. - Billy - age 4 Billy 4 yaş "Love is when a girl puts on perfume and a boy puts on shaving cologne and they go out and smell each other." Aşk kız parfüm ve erkek traş kolonyası sürdüğünde bir yerlere gidip birbirlerini koklamalarıdır. - Karl - age 5 Karl 5 yaş "Love is when you go out to eat and give somebody most of your French fries without making them give you any of theirs." Aşk yemek yemek için dışarı çıktığınızda, kızarmış patateslerinizin çoğunu onların da onlarınkini size vermesini istemeden  birilerine vermektir. - Chrissy - age 6 Chrissy yaş 6 "Love is what makes you smile when you´re tired." Aşk yorgun olduğunda seni gülümseten şeydir. - Terri - age 4 Terri yaş 4 "Love is when my mommy makes coffee for my daddy and she takes a sip before giving it to him, to make sure the taste is OK." Aşk annenin baba için kahve yaptığı zaman, kahvenin tadının iyi olduğundan emin olmak için ona vermeden önce bir yudum içmesidir. - Danny - age 7 Danny yaş 7 "Love is when you kiss all the time. Then when you get tired of kissing, you still want to be together and you talk more. My Mommy and Daddy are like that. They look gross when they kiss" Aşk her zaman öpüşmektir. Sonra öpüşmekten yorgun düştüğünde hala birlikte olmak ve daha çok konuşmak istersin. Babam ve annem böyleler.Öpüşürlerken berbat görünüyorlar. - Emily - age 8 Emily yaş 8 "Love is what´s in the room with you at Christmas if you stop opening presents and listen." Aşk eğer hediyeleri açmayı bırakır ve dinlersen yılbaşında seninle birlikte odada olan şeydir. - Bobby - age 7 (Wow!) Bobby yaş 7  "If you want to learn to love better, you should start with a friend who you hate." Eğer sevmeyi daha iyi öğrenmek istiyorsan, işe nefret ettiğin bir arkadaşınla başlamalısın. - Nikka - age 6 Nikka yaş 6 "Love is when you tell a guy you like his shirt, then he wears it everyday." Aşk birine onun gömleğini sevdiğini söylemektir;böylece o onu hergün giyer. - Noelle - age 7 Noelle yaş 7 "Love is like a little old woman and a little old man who are still friends even after they know each other so well." Aşk birbirlerini o kadar iyi tanımalarına rağmen hala arkadaş olan yaşlı bir adam ve kadın gibidir. - Tommy - age 6 Tommy yaş 6 "During my piano recital, I was on a stage and I was scared. I looked at all the people watching me and saw my daddy waving and smiling. Piyano resitalim sırasında sahnedeydim ve korkmuştum. Beni izleyen insanlara baktım ve babamı el sallarken ve gülümserken gördüm. He was the only one doing that. I wasn´t scared anymore." O böyle yapan tek kişiydi. Artık korkmuyordum. - Cindy - age 8 Cindy yaş 8 "My mommy loves me more than anybody. Annem beni herkesten daha çok sever. You don´t see anyone else kissing me to sleep at night." Akşamları uyumadan önce beni ondan başka öpen kimseyi göremezsiniz. - Clare - age 6 Clare yaş 6 "Love is when Mommy gives Daddy the best piece of chicken." Aşk annenin babaya tavuğun en iyi parçasını vermesidir. - Elaine-age 5 Elaine yaş 5 "Love is when Mommy sees Daddy smelly and sweaty and still says he is handsomer than Brad Pitt." Aşk annenin babayı kokulu ve terli gördüğü halde hala ona Brad Pitt´ten daha yakışıklısın demesidir. - Chris - age 7 Chris yaş 7 "Love is when your puppy licks your face even after you left him alone all day." Aşk onu bütün gün yalnız bıraktığın halde yavru köpeğinin yüzünü yalamasıdır. - Mary Ann - age 4 Mary Ann yaş 4 "I know my older sister loves me because she gives me all her old clothes and has to go out and buy new ones." Ablamın beni sevdiğini biliyorum çünkü tüm eski elbiselerini bana veriyor ve bu yüzden dışarı gidip yenilerini almak zorunda kalıyor. - Lauren - age 4 Lauren yaş 4 "When you love somebody, your eyelashes go up and down and little stars come out of you." Birisini sevdiğin zaman kirpiklerin yukarı ve aşağı çıkıp iner ve senden küçük yıldızlar ortaya çıkar. - Karen - age 7 Karen yaş 7 "Love is when Mommy sees Daddy on the toilet and she doesn´t think it´s gross." Aşk annenin babayı tuvaletteyken görmesi ve bunun iğrenç olduğunu düşünmemesidir. - Mark - age 6 Mark yaş 6 "You really shouldn´t say ´I Love You´ unless you mean it. But if you mean it, you should say it a lot. People forget." Gerçekten öyle düşünene kadar seni seviyorum dememelisin. Ama gerçekten öyle düşünüyorsan, bunu çok söyle. İnsanlar unutur. - Jessica - age 8  Jessica - yaş 8     Edited (5/19/2010) by gokuyum

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4555.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 May 2010 Tue 08:13 pm   Quoting Nettee Hello, could someone please translate this to me?   sen zaten benım ıcın allahın cok buyuk hedıyesısın yavrum senın ve abının varlıgı benı her zaman mutlu edıyordu canlarım buna bırde anette eklendı oglum sımdıde ben senın dogum gununu saglık ve mutlu olmanı canı yurekten kutluyorum ıyıkıde dogurmusun dunya da kalbımdekı 4 erkekten bırısın bılıyorsun Thanks!    You are a great gift of god for me my child. The presence of you and your brother was making me happy my hearts. And Annette added to this too my son. I am celebrating your birthday and your being healthy and happy with all my heart. Luckily i have given you birth.You are one of the four men in this world in my heart; you know it.

Thread: What is love? E - T

4556.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 May 2010 Tue 08:08 pm   Quoting melek08 Bump    do u really want them to be translated? This seems very long.

Thread: English to Turkish Lutfen

4557.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 May 2010 Tue 06:03 pm   Quoting Blue Butterfly The best thing you will have in life is to have real love for somebody and to have real love in return   When you have this, never do anything to lose it  (let it go)     çok teşekkur ederim          Bu dünyada sahip olacağın en iyi şey birilerini gerçek bir aşkla sevmek ve karşılığında gerçek bir aşkla sevilmektir. Buna sahip olduğun zaman, bunu kaybedecek bir şeyi asla yapma (bırak onu gitsin)

Thread: Short English to Turkish Lutfen

4558.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 May 2010 Tue 05:59 pm   Quoting Blue Butterfly If you love somebody set them free (let them go) like a butterfly   If they return (come back to you) they were always yours, if they do not - they were never yours to keep           Çok teşekkur ederim    Eğer birilerini seviyorsan, onları bir kelebek gibi özgür bırak. Eğer geri dönerlerse, onlar her zaman senindi ama dönmezlerse onlar asla saklaman için senin değildi.

Thread: Turkish - English please

4559.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 May 2010 Tue 05:39 pm   Quoting dreamkie I got a text message and I need someone to translate it for me, I don´t think I understood it properly     "sen beni gerçekten sevdinmi?  ben hep seni düsünüyorum aklimda hep sen varsin bence bu sevgi ask azdaolsa sesini duymak istiyorum özledim"    Have you really loved me? I always think you; you are always in my mind. I think this affection is love. I want to hear your voice even for a little time. I missed you.

Thread: english to turkish please

4560.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 May 2010 Tue 05:16 pm   Quoting reedie Could you please translate the following to turkish for me. I will be very greatful.     My sweet Baris   I am now home and have access to the internet.   Are you still in trouble ? Is the problem you owe some money or generally life is tough ?   I too have a business and times are very hard.   Have you got a friend who could help us communicate via email ? It is not so easy for me to get translations ( I am helped by very good people at a language website but I cannot take liberties)   I hate to see you in trouble and may be we can see if something can be done. I will give you my full attention.   Love        Benim tatlı Barışım   Evdeyim ve internete erişimim var. Hala sıkıntıda mısın? Sorun para borcun olması mı yoksa hayat genel olarak zor mu? Benim de bir işim var ve zaman çok kötü. Email aracılığıyla iletişim kurmamıza yardımcı olabilecek bir arkadaşın var mı? Yazdıklarının çevirilerini edinmek benim için kolay değil (bir dil sitesinde çok iyi insanlar tarafından yardım ediliyorum ama istediğim kadar rahat olamıyorum.) Seni sıkıntıda görmekten nefret ediyorum belki bir şey yapılabilir mi diye bakarız. Sana tüm dikkatimi vereceğim. Sevgiler

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4561.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 May 2010 Mon 08:28 am   Quoting ally81     I think that´s the first time that´s ever been said to me  woohoo haha.... I actually thought yours was more correct!  But I am glad that for gelemeyebilirim you translated it as might not be able to come aswell, thought I was going to be way off!   gelemeyebilirim (not be able to come in future) : I will not be able to come. But yours sounds ok too   Edited (5/17/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: One sentence from Turkish to English pliiiiiz.=)

4562.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 May 2010 Mon 08:19 am   Quoting lady in red     ´Received´ is the word we would use here rather than ´taken´.   Also - in English we would say ´I have no-one/nobody in mind for my bride´ rather than ´no name in mind´ (because that sounds as if he has a bride but can´t think what to call her!!)      thanks lady in red. Here I think the name will be thought is a child´s name. Maybe a new coming child. So he/she will think one for his/her bride. Edited (5/17/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: one more from T to E :-)

4563.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 May 2010 Mon 08:17 am   Quoting lady in red     Naela, I am starting to get very worried, did you block (me)? what did you do? I don´t know but at least say "I am good", you didn´t leave my dreams, answer me.. hey you drive a man mad.   My attempt

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4564.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 May 2010 Sun 09:21 pm   Quoting Trudy     (hayda?) this child will stay at home   My try - wait for others    Here staying at home means "not be able to find one to marry"

Thread: Another short one T to E please please!

4565.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 May 2010 Sun 07:38 pm   Quoting Astarte     ....is it ´we are continuing to struggle with life´?    you are right.

Thread: Another short one T to E please please!

4566.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 May 2010 Sun 07:35 pm   Quoting Gülümseme      I dont think so. I took it to be like - we doing all right , managing etc etc .  and it had IP suffix   Wait for the experts     Duruyoruz gives the sentence a meaning like "repeating the struggling action over and over again" Edited (5/16/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: And another one, thank you thank you thank you!

4567.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 May 2010 Sun 07:31 pm   Quoting Naela kızım geliyor hazıran 15 ile 27 arası hazırla oğlunu beşikten kerticem   isim önerin varsa söyle gelininin ismi ne olsun   yok ben sana cok yazıyorumda senin hatun silio herhalde sizin düğün ne zaman mutlu musun?    My girl is coming between June 15 and 27. Prepare your son i will make an arrangement for a future wedding between them. If you have a name proposition say what the bride´s name will be? No, i am writing to you more than you (to me), perhaps your bride deletes them. When is your wedding? Are you happy?

Thread: One sentence from Turkish to English pliiiiiz.=)

4568.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 May 2010 Sun 07:25 pm   Quoting Naela   herhalde o siliyo cunku ben senden hic bisey almadim bugune kadar... su an isim yok aklimda gelinim icin ama dusunurum...     Thanks again dear translators! /N    Perhaps he/she is deleting. Because I haven´t taken anything from you till today. I have no name in my mind for my bride but i will think about it.

Thread: Short T -> E translation, assistance lutfen! =)

4569.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 May 2010 Sun 07:22 pm   Quoting Sonbahar Selam, Belki sır yani secret instead of sir sırrını ... your secret wait for native speakers    you are right.

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4570.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 May 2010 Sat 05:56 pm   Quoting tomac     Hi, just a question from learner - could it be also like this? -> Sadece ne açtığına dikkat et.    Yours is the correct one. I will modify it.

Thread: Help me find the translation of this please

4571.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 May 2010 Sat 03:00 pm   Quoting bryang Hi forum, if someone knows where can I find the translation of this poem, please let me know, I heard it´s really nice. I know it´s quite long so I´m not asking someone to translate it but if there´s already a version in English, I´ll be glad to know     HAYAT  Bir yaşam öyküsüne katlanılamayacak kadar uzun! Bir gülümseyişe, bir kıpırdanışa, bir dokunuşa vakit ayıramayacak kadar kısa! The Life   It is as long as not enduring a life story. It is as short as not having time for a smile, for a moving, for a touch Hayat    The life Gerçekleri sırtlayıp taşıyamayacak kadar ağır. Bir kuşun kanadına konup ta ona bile hissettirmeden uçabilecek kadar hafif!    It is as heavy as not carrying the truths by shouldering them It is as light as flying by settling on the wing of a bird by not making it realize Hayat   The life Her anını dibine kadar yaşamaya çalışmak için nefes nefese koşturmayı göze alacak kadar dolu, Bütün yaşadıklarının sadece bir hayal olduklarını hissettirecek kadar boş!    It is as full as venturing running up breathless to try to live its all moments to the very bottom  It is as empty as making you feel that all you lived is a dream Hayat  The life Koskoca ömürde "bir yalnız gün daha nasıl geçecek, şu saatler nasıl bitecek“ diye şikayet edebilecek kadar muamma! Göz açıp kapayıncaya kadar geçen sürede nihayete erebilecek kadar da basit!   It is as mystery as complaining how another lonely day will pass, how these hours will pass It is as simple as coming to an end in a time of a blink Hayat  The life Kendini oluşturan her büyüsü,  her cazibesi,  her rengi, yürekleri hoplatacak, kanlarımızı kaynatacak kadar parlak ve güzel! Gözlerimizi acılarla, hüzünlerle, ayrılıklarla, ölümlerle buluşturduğumuzda, sadece iki renk! Gri ve siyah!   (There are grammer problems)   It is as shiny and beautiful as its all magic, all attraction, all colours that create itself making our bloods boil Only two colours : Gray and black! When we make our eyes meet with pains, sorrows, seperations, deaths Hayat The life Her anını tuvallere, yazılara, şiirlere, gösterilere döküp sergileyebileceğin kadar sanat! Tek bir uyanışta, görevinin tek bir oyundan ibaret tek bir rol olduğunu fark edebileceğin kadar da kısır ve monoton!   It is as art as displaying all its moments by pouring into the canvas, the writings, the poems, the shows. It is as infertile and monotonous as realizing your duty is a role only for a play in a one waking up. Hayat  The life Seni tek bir "evet" inle başkalarına bölüştürüp sunabileceğin, nefes alıp verişlerinle "paylaştırabileceğin" kadar hayret verici ve cömert! It is as amazing and generous as offering it with only one yes of you by sharing you out to others, and sharing it out with your breaths Tek bir "hayır" ınla herşeyi mahvedebileceğin, yok edebileceğin kadar da cimri ve densiz!   It is as ungenerous and tactless as ruining and destroying everything with your one no Hayat  The life Gerçek yaşam öykülerine katlanabilecek gücü bulup, bulaştırıp, daha da büyüğünü oluşturabilecek kadar heybetli ve zor, Her şeyden vazgeçip "yaşama veda etmeyi isteyecek" kadar da güçsüz ve zayıf!   It is as tremendous and difficult as creating even the bigger one by finding strength to endure real life stories. It is as powerless and weak as wanting say farewell to life by backing down from everything Hayat The life  Sevmeyi bilecek, bilmiyorsa öğrenecek tadacak, sunacak, paylaşacak ..ve böyle sevgilerle, bütün sevgileri çoğaltabilecek kadar anlam´lı... Nefreti seçip, sıçratmak, sıçrattıkça da o pisliğe bulaşacak kadar anlam´sız...   Hayat The life Gerçek yaşam öykülerine katlanmaya değecek kadar "Yaşanmaya değer" Hayat; onu kısaltmanın haksızlık olduğunu anlatacak kadar öğretici, Bir daha bulunmayacak, yaşanmayacak kadar "tek"... Hayat  Sadece senin dilediğin kadar uzun! Sadece Senin dilediğin kadar kısa!       Maybe someone can go on where i left it. Edited (5/16/2010) by gokuyum Edited (5/16/2010) by gokuyum Edited (5/16/2010) by gokuyum Edited (5/18/2010) by gokuyum Edited (5/18/2010) by gokuyum Edited (5/18/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: E - T

4572.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 May 2010 Sat 02:44 pm   Quoting melek08 Love is patient. Love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast. It is not proud. It is not rude. It is not self-seeking. It is not easily angered. It keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil, but rejoices with the truth. Love always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love bear all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures al things. Love never ends. Love never fails.  Aşk sabırlıdır; aşk kibardır. Kıskanmaz ve  övünmez Gururlu değildir; kaba değildir. Çıkarcı değildir. Kolayca öfkelendirilmez. Yanlışların hesabını tutmaz Aşk kötülükten zevk almaz Ama gerçekle neşelenir Aşk herzaman korur, herzaman güvenir herzaman umut eder, herzaman azmeder Aşk herşeye katlanır, herşeye inanır herşeyi umut eder, herşeye dayanır Aşk hiç bitmez, aşk hiç kaybetmez (başarısız olmaz)

Thread: E - T

4573.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 May 2010 Sat 02:38 pm   Quoting melek08 The Meaning Anlam   To love is to share life together to build special plans just for two to work side by side and then smile with pride as one by one, dreams all come true.   Sevmek birlikte paylaşmaktır sadece iki kişilik özel planlar yapmaktır yan yana çalışmaktır. ve sonra gururla gülümsemektir. rüyalar bir bir gerçek olunca. To love is to help and encourage with smiles and sincere words of praise to take time to share to listen and care in tender, affectionate ways.    Aşk yardım etmek ve yüreklendirmektir gülüşler ve içten  övgü sözcükleriyle değerlendirmektir zamanı paylaşmak için Dinlemek ve ilgilenmektir hassas ve sevecen şekilde    To love is to have someone special one who you can always depend to be there through the years sharing laughter and tears as a partner, a lover, a friend.   Aşk özel birine sahip olmaktır. öyle biri ki her zaman ona güvenebilirsin yıllar boyunca orada olacak gülüşleri ve göz yaşlarını paylaşarak  bir eş, bir sevgili, bir arkadaş olarak  To love is to make special memories of moments you love to recall of all the good things that sharing life brings love is the greatest of all.   Sevmek özel hatıralar yaratmaktır hatırlamayı sevdiğin anlardan tüm güzel şeylerden ki hayatı paylaşmak getirir onları aşk her şeyin en harikasıdır. I´ve learned the full meaning of sharing and caring and having my dreams all come true; I´ve learned the full meaning of being in love by being and loving with you.    Öğrendim tam anlamını paylaşmanın ve önemsemenin ve rüyalarımın hep gerçek olmasının Öğrendim tam anlamını aşık olmanın seninle birlikte ve san aşık olmanın

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4574.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 May 2010 Sat 02:24 pm   Quoting Sekerleme -Ben her zaman susmaktan yoruldum. Sevdiğim şeyleri severim ve herkes bunu kabul etmeli   I want to say:   -I am so tired of to be silent everytime. I like the things I like and all should accept that.     Sekerleme liked this message

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4575.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 May 2010 Sat 02:22 pm   Quoting karinalinares I keep these moments fresh in my mind and in my heart. I am looking forward to be near you again, my angel    Bu anıları aklımda ve kalbimde hale taze tutuyorum. Tekrar yanında olmak için  sabırsızlanıyorum; meleğim.

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4576.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 May 2010 Sat 02:18 pm   Quoting snowhite sorry, it seems that your laptop has been infected by a virus, you will need to get it looked at, you wont need to change your email address that will be ok, just be careful what you open.         help would be apprecated thank you    Üzgünüm görünüşe göre bilgisayarına virüs bulaşmış. Ona baktırmalısın. E-mail adresini değiştirmen gerekmez. Onda sorun yoktur sadece ne açtığına dikkat et. Edited (5/15/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: turkish to english help please

4577.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 May 2010 Sat 02:16 pm   Quoting red1 Şimdi yazıyorum o zaman bak < gerek yok her sözü laf ile beyana.... bir bakış söz söz eder bakıştan anlayana....? Her söz lazım değil bazen bir bakmak her şey anlatır     I think I get the general meaning but would appreciate a full translation please.   Any help will be gratefully appreciated.    Look if it is so i am writing "There is no need to declare every word with talk... A look makes a word to one who understands the look...?  Every word isn´t necessary sometimes a look tells everything.

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4578.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 May 2010 Fri 01:19 pm   Quoting melek08 Thank you so much gokuyum I hope you took it as a joke, and not to be true It looks really nice, and I appreciate it a lot. The last sentence though, should maybe be Evet Evet Evet in stead of görürüm. It`s meant to be the words you say when you get married.   The sentence is like; Before you understand what`s going to happen, (I will marry you). I do is the answer you give when you marry someone. (Do you take "name" to be your.... etc is said)   I wish you a wonderful day!!  I modified it. I know it is a joke but every joke has a truth in it. Have a nice day.

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4579.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 May 2010 Fri 10:29 am   Quoting melek08 Yes, I´ll marry you, my dear, and here´s the reason why; So I can push you out of bed when the baby starts to cry, and if we hear a knocking and it´s creepy and it´s late, I hand you the torch you see, and you investigate.   Yes I´ll marry you, my dear, you may not apprehend it, but when the tumble-drier goes it´s you that has to mend it. You have to face the neighbour should our labrador attack him, and if a drunkard fondles me it´s you that has to whack him.   Yes, I´ll marry you, you´re virile and you´re lean, my house is like a pigsty you can help to keep it clean. That tasty little dinner which you served by candlelight, as I do chipolatas, you can cook it every night! It´s you who has to work the drill and put up curtain track, and when i am in a mood it´s you who gets the flak. i do see great advantages, but none of them for you, and so before you see the light, I do,I do,I do    Evet seninle evleneceğim hayatım.İşte sebebi: Böylece bebek ağladığında seni yataktan dışarı iteceğim ve eğer bir tıkırtı duyarsak ve o tıkırtı ürkünçse ve vakit geçse sana feneri vereceğim ki gör ve araştır diye.   Evet seninle evleneceğim hayatım, kavrayamayabilirsin onu ama ne zaman ki kurutma makinesi bozulur, o zaman o sensin onaracak onu.Labrodorumuzun saldırdığı komşuyla yüzleşecek olan sensin ve eğer bir sarhoş okşarsa beni, o sensin hırpalayacak onu.   Evet seninle evleneceğim sen güçlüsün, sen incesin, evim aynı domuz ahırı gibi, onu temiz tutmama yardım edebilirsin. O mum ışığında servis ettiğin küçük lezzetli akşam yemeğini, benim chipolata yaptığım gibi sende pişirebilirsin her akşam. O sensin matkabı çalıştıracak olan ve perde rayını kuracak olan. Ben havamda olmadığım zaman, o sensin uçaksavar ateşini göğüsleyecek olan. Büyük avantajlar görüyorum ama hiçbiri senin için değil.Ve böylece sen ışığı görmeden önce evet, evet, evet Edited (5/14/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: turkish to english translation please.

4580.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 May 2010 Fri 10:10 am   Quoting MarioninTurkey      The middle bit smells like tranlation, also we don´t say to "replation". Replete is an adjective, but it is very old-fashioned literary English.   I would make a free translation of the middle bit as follows: demli çayı bardakta karıştırıp bir başına yudumlamak doyasıya, a   .. to stir strong tea in a glass, and sip it alone until completely satisfied ...   or .. to stir strong tea in a glass, and sip it alone until it hits the spot ...      thanks marion

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4581.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 May 2010 Fri 10:08 am   Quoting sesese Is anyone able to help with these song lyrics? I would really appreciate it! Teşekkürler!   gozlerinde esir kaldim askin deryasina daldim tatli sozlerine kandim sevda yeli calimis gibi   I have been stuck in your eyes I have been dived into the sea of love I have been deceived with your sweet words Like the wind of love have stolen yaraliyim ben yarali vurgunum yurek sevdali ben sana hasret kalali bir hayale dalmis gibi   I am wounded, wounded I am in love; my heart has been lovesick since i longed for you like i have dived into a dream.   saclarima aklar dustu basima kar yagmis gibi cicegimi soldurdun sen son baharda kalmis gibi   My hair has grown white Like it snowed to my head you wilted my flower Like it has stayed in winter. yaraliyim ben yarali vurgunum yurek sevdali ben sana hasret kalali bir hayale dalmis gibi   I am wounded; wounded I am in love; my heart has been lovesick since i longed for you Like i have dived into a dream   -SIIR- yaraliyim esmerim ben yarali vurgunum yuregim sana sevdali bu gonlum sana hasret kalali bir hayallere dalmis gibi saclarima aklar dustu bak basima kar yagmis gibi cicegimi soldurdun sen cicegimi soldurdun sen son baharda kalmis gibi cicegimi kuruttun sen son baharda kalmis gibi   -Poem-   I am wounded my brunette, i am wounded I am in love, my heart has been lovesick Since my heart longed for you Like i have dived into a dream. Look; my hair grows white Like it has snowed to my head You wilted my flower Like it has stayed in winter You wilted my flower Like it has stayed in winter.      My try   sesese liked this message

Thread: please translate english to turkish

4582.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 May 2010 Fri 09:47 am   Quoting msje deniz i just want to know why your mad at me?you know what i dont understand you.are you mad because im having lots of friends?they are only friends ok thought you love me but it seems you dont care for me im really sad about this ok delete me if you want too im so sorry for myself why i think your real.    Deniz bana neden kızdığını bilmek istiyorum. Biliyor musun anlamadığım şey neden bir çok arkadaşım olduğu için bana kızdığın. Onlar sadece arkadaşlar tamam mı? Beni sevdiğini düşünmüştüm ama benimle ilgilenmiyor görünüyorsun. Bu yüzden çok üzgünüm. İstersen beni sil. Seni gerçek sandığım için kendi adıma çok üzülüyorum.

Thread: Translation Turkish to English please...

4583.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 May 2010 Thu 04:28 am   Quoting deli Thanks sweetheart,is love necessarily the name of a relationship between two people? We should open out heart and soul to every kind of love. Anyway Ive spoke too much again         this was translated before    By saying we must open out heart and soul to every kind of love he/she means we can also love god or nature or humanity or ....

Thread: turkish to english translation please.

4584.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 May 2010 Thu 04:23 am   Quoting bryang Hi forum, thank you for your help Bir telefon sesi çalmalı arasıra da olsa kulağında yoksa zor değil, demli çayı bardakta karıştırıp bir başına yudumlamak doyasıya, a ama çaya kaç şeker alırsın diye bir ses sormalı ya arasıra.   A telephone sound should ring from time to time in your ears. Otherwise it is not difficult to mix well steeped tea in the glass and to sip it to replation alone. But a voice should ask how much sugar you take for your tea from time to time.

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4585.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 May 2010 Thu 04:15 am   Quoting Rhiayse One year ago I married you, one year ago I gave you my love, one year ago I promised to you my heart and my life.   Happy Anniversary ....may we see many more years as happy as this one has been.     Anyone able to translate the above i would be very thankful too. Its our first wedding anniversary soon.    Bir yıl önce seninle evlendim. Bir yıl önce sana aşkımı verdim. Bir yıl önce sana kalbimi ve hayatımı söz verdim.   Mutlu yıldönümleri.... umarım bununki gibi daha nice mutlu yıllar görürüz.

Thread: english to turkish please

4586.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 May 2010 Wed 11:01 am   Quoting tomac Question from learner: could it be also this way?   Bu, ........´nin İrlandacası(dır)  yes.

Thread: turkish to english please

4587.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 May 2010 Wed 10:57 am   Quoting solak her zaman bilgisayar başında olamıyorum dün biraz işlerim vardı gönderemedim.  yazdıklarımı arapçaya çevirirsen çok memnun olurum selam ile.    I can´t be always in front of the computer. Because I had some business yesterday, I couldn´t send it/them. I will be glad if you translate my writings to Arabic. With greeting...

Thread: E-T please if time thank you

4588.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 May 2010 Wed 10:45 am   Quoting snowhite we need to talk really, when will you have holiday time?    Gerçekten konuşmamız lazım. Tatil vaktin ne zaman? Edited (5/12/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Hi, anyone willing to translate Turkish to English and THANKS!

4589.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 May 2010 Wed 10:43 am   Quoting lessons_in_love  anlayana gitsin bu adam herşeyiyle mükembel seviyorum seni     Thanks for the help!  Let this man go to one who understands.Perfect.I love you.

Thread: turkish to english please

4590.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 May 2010 Tue 08:37 am   Quoting clare105 gönül isterdiki hep beraber olalım ama kader utansin?    Heart would want to be together forever but let the fate be ashamed. (we can´t because of fate)

Thread: english to turkish, please. Thank you very much.

4591.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 May 2010 Tue 08:33 am   Quoting smiley 1)  You said it is only for three months but it has been 3 years now.   2)  I have been very patient.   3)  Please think of me and don´t let me down.        1) Sadece üç ay için dedin, üç yıl oldu   2) Ben çok sabırlıydım   3) Lütfen beni düşün ve beni yüzüstü bırakma.

Thread: turkish - english please

4592.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 May 2010 Tue 08:31 am   Quoting Elif--x Öyle biri varki gönlümde,alayiniz yalan gözümde    I have such a person in my heart, you all seem like a lie in my eyes.

Thread: english to turkish urgent please thanks.... a lotttt....

4593.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 May 2010 Sun 02:42 am   Quoting garie happy mother´s day... you such a wonderful mom...    mutlu anneler günü (we say "anneler günün kutlu olsun") Sen harika bir annesin.

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4594.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 May 2010 Sun 02:18 am   Quoting MarioninTurkey    In order to turn your family life into heaven...   The Muslim family life is like a corner of heaven. Everything is permissible there, everything is sweet, and everything is pleasant.   "The most mature and blessed saint, according to his faith, is the one that is most good-willing to his wife"   The most good-willing woman is the one that when her husband looks at her is (... mesrur ... sorry I don´t know this word), and when he says something she obeys his command.      Mesrur means joyful, happy. Check here: http://www.osmanlicaturkce.com/?k=mesrur&t=%40

Thread: translate please!!

4595.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 May 2010 Sun 02:14 am   Quoting MarioninTurkey      whoever does not have the strength to be married let them fast (fasts other than religious fasts are useless). Because that fast will enable him to master his lust and his breath   The greatest blessing ...   "Look to possess a thankful heart, a tongue that recites the names of Allah, and a saintly wife. A wife like this will help you gain a place in heaven"    Mümin means faithful or worshipper.

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4596.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 May 2010 Sun 02:07 am   Quoting MarioninTurkey      whoever does not have the strength to be married let them fast (fasts other than religious fasts are useless). Because that fast will enable him to master his lust and his breath   The greatest blessing ...   "Look to possess a thankful heart, a tongue that recites the names of Allah, and a saintly wife. A wife like this will help you gain a place in heaven"    Here "nafile" means not "useless" it is like "extra" or "discreational" In the sentence "nafile oruç" is advised.   It is not "nefes" it is "nefs" It is one´s bodily appetites, the cravings of the flesh. You can call it "id" like Freud. Edited (5/9/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Please translate Turkish to English

4597.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 May 2010 Sat 07:58 pm  Turkish to Turkish: (I couldn´t have time to correct Turkish characters)   Quoting Argon Hi Guys, hope the weather is better where you are! Can anyone please translate the following please. I know its a bit broken, sorry.   lim ne olacak önemli şeyler bu ateş işleri, hafife almamak gerek. Evet ben de çok kullanir oldum buralarda pek yok; ama var da senin tarzin yok. Ama aklımda bulunsun canım. Sana da canım iyi geceler çok iyi oldu görüştük. Olur öperim bye bye canım.  Selam canım iyiyim cok sagol ya sen nasilsin. İyilik valla ya hiç konusamiyoruz artık evdekiler nasil?  İyilik ne olsun ben derslerden pek kafa kaldiramiyorum su gunlerde ama iyiyiz yani. Aaaa nasil kizlar nasil dedigim, tirtilla Turkandi zaten coook ozledim yaaaaa. Turkan kiz yazi iple cekiyorum yanip... İyi o da obur bilgisayarda o da hala uyumadi, annemi ugtrastiriyor evet ya 3 yasini doldurdu artik yarin okula baslayacak ilk gunu heyecan var daha dogrusu kreş esasen. Neler yapiyon ozledim valla hic sesin cikmadi. Benim de oyle. Selincik nasil? Aferin bana ben de pek girmem bilgisayara ama dersler hafifledi biraz takilayim dedim. İsler nasil duzeldi mi bari? Anliyorum canım ben de oyle. Orhana yazdim simdi hic kafa kaldiramiyorum derslerden diye. Canim yaaa Allah´tan kayinvalde cocukla ilgileniyor. Beni Eda da deli ediyor cok enerjisi var yaaa masallah ama yorucu. Evet aynen cok ise kalkistik galiba neyse bunlar da gecer yazi iple cekiyorum. Valla goruselim geliriiiiizzzzz biz gocmeniiiiizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz haydaaa breeeeeee. Orhanin isler nasil? Benim su sinavlar bitsin bakariz bilete. Annem de hala burda. Off cok uzunmus is saatleri Aman biz goruyoruz da ne oluyor? Butun gun dibimden ayrilmiyor. Sikildim artik gitsin de ben de evimin isine bakayim. Dogru soyluyorsun canım ben saka yapiyorum. Ona da soyluyorum zaten kardesim. Annenler nasillar? İyi, uyudu simdi. Evet ya ozleniyorlar degil mi? Biz de Selin tirtilimizi ozledik. Bi dillendi bi dillendi hic sorma. Yapmaa yaaaa benim de oyle. Degil mi hele burada havalar hala isinamadi. Daha da bir ozlem var de mi? Bizimki sarki soyluyor butun gun piyanonun basina bi geciyo durdur durdurabilirsen. Herseyi kapattiriyor evde tv, radyo. Yaaa konser verecegiz gelince; ona hazirlaniyoruz. Canim yn bilmise sorraarim ben. Ona de canim. Tamam kulak tipalarini hazirlayin Canim yatacaksan ben oyalamiyayim seni. Yarin istesin. İyi oldu. Yeter bu kadar annemin selami var canım. Hadi iyi gecelerr mucukkkuna da selam canımm. Kiz kardesin ne yapiyor; calisiyor mu? Neyse konusuruz sonra. Öptum

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4598.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 May 2010 Sat 06:27 pm   Quoting melek08 Thanks again gokuyum my friend I really appreciate your kind help and good translations    All is for love.

Thread: The differences in culture - Turkish/Kurdish

4599.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 May 2010 Sat 06:27 pm I have never felt that I was banned to speak my native language as a circassian because by the result of Turkey´s assimilation policy my native language became Turkish and I became a perfect product of that policy. Even I don´t care about my ethnicity. I am a stranger to my language and people. I feel as a Turk. I don´t know whether it is good or bad.Overall I am a perfect product. Don´t expect much from me Edited (5/8/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Translation Turkish to English please...

4600.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 May 2010 Sat 06:19 pm   Quoting scalpel      No,no,no, it´s Ahmet Altan´s (dark-faced bearded man, a cheap womanizer) words insulting men (insensetive, inunderstanding, bla bla) just to hear applauses from some women.    I don´t like Ahmet Altan and I don´t like such women who he describes in his writings.

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4601.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 May 2010 Sat 06:14 pm   Quoting melek08 Tomorrow mornin´ if you wake up And the sun does not appear I...I will be here   Yarın sabah eğer uyanırsan Ve güneş gözükmezse Ben..Ben burada olacağım.  If in the dark we lose sight of love Hold my hand and have no fear ´Cause I...I will be here   Eğer karanlıkta aşkın görüntüsünü yitirirsek Elimi tut ve korkma Çünkü ben..Ben burada olacağım. I will be here... When you feel like bein´ quiet When you need to speak your mind I will listen And I will be here When the laughter turns to cryin´ Through the winnin´ and losin´ and tryin´ We´ll be together ´Cause I will be here    Burada olacağım... Sessiz olur gibi hissettiğinde Aklından geçenleri konuşmak ihtiyacı hissettiğinde Dinleyeceğim Ve burada olacağım Kahkaha ağlamaya dönüştüğünde Kazanmalar ve kaybetmeler ve denemeler boyunca Beraber olacağız Çünkü burada olacağım.  Tomorrow mornin´ if you wake up And the future is unclear I...I´ll be here   Yarın sabah eğer uyanırsan Ve gelecek belirsizse Ben..Ben burada olacağım. Just as sure as seasons are made for change Our lifetimes are made for years I...I will be here   Mevsimlerin değişim için yapıldığından emin olduğum kadar Hayatlarımız yıllar(a dayanmak) için yapıldı Ben..Ben burada olacağım  I will be here.... You can cry on my shoulder When the mirror tells us we´re older I will hold you   Burada olacağım... Omuzumda ağlayabilirsin Aynalar bize yaşlandığımızı söyleyince Seni tutacağım  And I will be here To watch you grow in beauty And tell you all the things you are to me I will be here   Ve burada olacağım Güzellik içinde büyümeni izlemek için Ve anlatacağım bana ifade ettiğin her şeyi Burada olacağım  I will be true To the promise I have made To you and to the One who gave you to me   Sadık olacağım Verdiğim söze Sana ve seni Bana verene  I...I will be here   Ben..Ben burada olacağım And just as sure as seasons are made for change Our lifetimes are made for years ´Cause I... I will be here.... We´ll be together   Mevsimlerin değişim için yapıldığına emin olduğum kadar Ömrümüz yıllar(a dayanmak) için yapıldı Çünkü ben Burada olacağım Birlikte olacağız ´Cause I will be here   Çünkü ben burada olacağım.       Corrections please.

Thread: turkish to english please

4602.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 May 2010 Sat 02:33 am As a miserable student I could give 5 TL to my best friend. I guess I could deal with it. But it would not be easy for me.  Edited (5/8/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: turkish to english please

4603.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 May 2010 Sat 02:25 am   Quoting deli I dont usually comment on money matters but I cant help myself, I hope I dont offend   keep your money in your! pocket    If you care a person you must help her/him. But don´t give more than you can deal.

Thread: Turkish - English please :)

4604.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 May 2010 Sat 01:06 am   Quoting sophiss dileklerimi gömdüm, Hıdır yorum katmıs hallerını bı sene ıcınde gormek dıleklerıyle   Thanks!    I buried my wishes. With the wishes to see your attitudes which Hıdır commented on

Thread: turkish to english please

4605.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 May 2010 Sat 12:46 am   Quoting reedie Nasılsın  iyi olmanı dilerim. Ailen çocuklarınla mutlu olmanı dilerim.   I wish you health. I wish you happiness with your children   Her şey yolundadır umarım saglıklı ve güzel günlerin bizlerle hep beraber geçmesını dılerım    I hope everything is okey. I wish that healthy and beautiful days pass together.   Nelar yapıyorsun hayat nasıl gecıyorsana gonderdıgım mektubu almıssındır    What are you doing? How is life going? I guess you received the letter i had sent you.   Halletmısındır herhalde   I guess you figured it out.   Sana bır sey soracagım ama benı yanlıs anlamanı ıstemem    I will ask you something. I don´t want you misunderstand me.   Eger yardımcı olabılırsen sevınırım    I will be happy if you can help.   Bu Arallar işlerim biraz kotu gıdıyor ekonomık krız benıde vurdu    These days my business goes bad. The economical crisis affected me badly.   Eger musaıtsen 3000 paund a ıhtıyacım var yardımcı olursan sevınırım    If you are available i need 3000 pound. If you help me i will be happy.   Benı mutlu edersın    You will make me happy.   Ben aılemden kımseden yardım almam ıstemem onlardan ıslerımın bozuk oldugunu bılmelerını ıstemem   I don´t take help from my family, from anybody. I don´t want them to know my business goes bad.   Onları uzmek ıstemem    I don´t want them to upset.   Ihtıyacım oldugunda hakan yardım ederdı    When I was in need, Hakan would help me.   Sımdıde o olmadıgına gore kımseden ısteyemıyorum    Now because he is absent, i can´t want from anybody.   Eger sen yardımcı olursan sevınırım kısa surede gerı verırım    If you help me, I will be happy. I will give it back in a short time.   Eger bana guvenırsen ve verırsen sevınırım    If you trust me and give it to me, I will be happy.   Sımdıden tesekkur ederım    Thanks in advance.   Kendınıze ıyı bakın senden haber beklıyorum    Take care of yourself/yourselves. I am waiting information from you.   Lutfen acele et   Please hurry.   Optum   I kiss you   Lutfen   Please.       Wasn´t there any human to translate this urgent message except me? I can´t believe it. Edited (5/8/2010) by gokuyum Edited (5/8/2010) by gokuyum Edited (5/8/2010) by gokuyum Edited (5/8/2010) by gokuyum

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4606.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 May 2010 Sat 12:34 am   Quoting melek08 As you walk this shadowed road never feel that you´re alone for my heart will travel with you a smile to light your way love to warm you on the coldest night   Bu gölgeli yolda yürüdükçe Kendini asla yalnız hissetme. Çünkü kalbim seninle yolculuk edecek Yolunu aydınlatan bir öpücük Seni en soğuk gecede ısıtan bir aşk  You are so far from home as darkness falls around you but still our hearts are true for even in the darkest shadows believe and you will find your way    Evden öyle uzaktasın ki Karanlık etrafına dökülür gibi Ama  kalplerimiz doğru oldukça en karanlık gölgelerde bile inan ve bulacaksın yolunu    My days never ending as                          I sit alone at dawn              Sighing...remembering            Sweet words of longing          Imagining you are here Near yet so far away                    Glowing warmth surrounds me     Günlerim geçmiyor Şafakta yalnız oturdukça Özlemin tatlı sözcükleri Seni burada hayal etmek Çok yakın ama bir o kadar uzak Kızgın sıcaklık sarıyor beni    You are in my heart...the Only way that I can hold you Until we´re together again     Sen kalbimdesin... Seni tutabileceğim tek yol bu Tekrar beraber olana kadar. With every breath A burning ache within Needing to be near To hold you, love you In every way Never to be parted Growing ever closer    Her nefeste Tutuşan bir ağrıyla Yanında olma gereksinimi Seni tutma, seni sevme Her şekilde Hiç ayrılmamak Hep yakınlaşmak    You are in my heart...the Only way that I can hold you    Until we´re together again     Sen kalbimdesin... Seni tutabileceğim tek yol bu Tekrar beraber olana kadar.   As you walk this shadowed road never feel that you´re alone for my heart will travel with you a smile to light your way love to warm you on the coldest night   Bu gölgeli yolda yürüdükçe Kendini asla yalnız hissetme. Çünkü kalbim seninle yolculuk edecek Yolunu aydınlatan bir öpücük Seni en soğuk gecede ısıtan bir aşk  You are so far from home as darkness falls around you but still our hearts are true for even in the darkest shadows believe and you will find your way      Evden öyle uzaktasın ki Karanlık etrafına dökülür gibi Ama  kalplerimiz doğru oldukça en karanlık gölgelerde bile inan ve bulacaksın yolunu       Corrections please. Edited (5/8/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Turkish translation about marriage (?)

4607.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 May 2010 Sat 12:16 am   Quoting Sooree Hey can someone translate this accurately to english please? x     allahın varlığının işaretlerinden biri de, size kendinizden olan eşler yaratmasıdır siz onlara ısınır, onlarla huzura kavuşursunuz. allahin verdiği duygular sayesinde birbirinizi sever ve korursunuz.   One of the signs of Allah is that he creates partners from yourselves. You become reconciled to them, you reach to peace with them. With the feelings Allah gave, you love each other and protect each other.   Bunda düşünen insanlar için ibretler vardir: üniversite Komisyonu Sunar   There are lessons in it for people think. The commission of university presents:   "Evleniniz, çoğalınız. zira ben kıyamet günunde ümmetimin çokluğu ile övüneceğim." Ey gençler topluluğu! içinizden evlenmeye gücü yeterse evlensin!  çünku bü, gözü (haramdan) koruyan, namuslu kalmaya yardimcı olan çaredir. kimin de evlenmeye gücü yetmezse, (farz oruçlarından başka nafile) oruca (da) sarılsın. çünkü o (oruç ) , kendisinin şehvetine ve nefsine hâkim olmasını sağlar. En büyük nimet ...   "Get married and breed, because I will praise myself with the multitude of my Muslim community. O group of youngs! Who has power to get married, let him/her gets married! Because this is a solution which protects eyes from sin and helps to remain honorable. Who has not enough power to get married  let him/her cling to discretional(optional) fast( except the necessary fasts) Because it (fast) maintains him/her to get control of his/her sensuality and ego. The grandest boon.....   "siz şükreden bir kalbe, zikreden bir dile ve mümin bir hanıma sahip olmaya bakın. Böyle bir hanım, ahireti kazanmanıza yardımcı olur." Kadın dört sebepten, biri için alınır: malı, soyu, güzelliği ve dindarlığı. Sen (diğerlerini geç ) , dindar olanı seç. (Aksi halde) sıkıntıya düşersin. Kadını sırf malı ve güzelliği için alan kimse, malından da güzelliğinden de mahrum olur (hayrını göremez). Dindarlığı için bir kadınla evlenen kimseye Allah (cc) malı da güzelliği de nasib eder. Allahım! Senden kadının hayırlı ve iyi ahlaklı olanını nasib etmeni dilerim. Aile Hayatını Cennete çevirebilmek İçin... Müslümanin aile hayatı, cennet köşelerinden bir köşedir. Orada her şey helal, her şey tatlı ve her şey hoştur. "Müminlerin îmân bakımından en olgunu ve en hayırlısı, hanımına karşı en hayırlı olanıdır." Kadınların en hayırlısı odur ki, kocası ona baktığı zaman mesrûr olur, bir şey söylediğinde emrini yerine getirir. Nâmûsunda ve malında, kocasının hoşlanmayacağı bir harekette de bulunmaz. Kızım, evimizden çıkıp başka bir eve, ülfet etmediğin bir kimseye gidiyorsun ... Sen kocana yer ol ki, o sana gök olsun! Sen ona hizmetçi ol ki, o sana köle olsun! Kocana yumuşak davran! Öfkeli hallerinde sessizce yanından kayboluver ... Öfkeli geçinceye kadar ona görünme ... Ağzını ve kulağını muhâfaza et ... Kocan sana fenâ söylerse, söylediklerini duyma; sakın mukâbelede bulunma! Ona karşı gelme! Dâimâ senden güzel söz işitsin, güler yüz görsün ... Bu suretle sana iyi nazarla baksın ..." Huzur "Elhamdülillah" Diyebilmektir Evlenin, boşanmayın. Zira boşanmadan dolayı arşı ala titrer. Ey Rabbimiz! Bize zevcelerimizden ve nesillerimizden gözler (imizin) bebeği olacak (sâlih insanlar) ihsân et! Bizi takvâ sâhiplerine rehber kıl! ... Ey Rabbimiz! Bizi sana boyun eğenlerden kıl! Neslimizden Sana itaat eden bir ümmet çıkar. Bize ibadet usullerimizi göster ve tövbelerimizi kabul et. Zira, tövbeleri kabul eden, Oçk merhametli olan ancak Sensin    Fight peacefully  Edited (5/8/2010) by gokuyum Edited (5/8/2010) by gokuyum

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4608.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 May 2010 Fri 11:48 pm   Quoting mica_mia can somebody translate this for me thank you:   Sevgiyim,sevgiliyim sevdiğime Ne kadar kaçabilirim ki sevincimden Sevincim,mutluluğum hepsi bu kadar Gün kurulur bedenime gazelin ağacı terkettiği gibi   I am love, I am lover to my beloved How long can I escape from my joy. My joy, my happiness.,it is all  The day settles down to my body like ghazel(lyric) leaves the tree.    Sessizliğin ürkütür beni yakamozdaki parıltı Kim var içimde ben mi bilmiyorum senden olduğu kadar Hüznüm gülümsüyor bana kaynayan yüreğimde buhar Buhar bile olamadım ki suyu sevdiğim kadar   Your silence scares me; glitter on the phosphorescence  Who is inside me? I don´t know whether it is me as much as it is from you (? comas needed) My sadness smiles me, the steam in my boiling heart I couldn´t be like the steam as much as i like water.    Kış benim baharımdır cemrenin düştüğü zaman Zaman ilacımdır benim güz,ezel,sonbahar Hayatımda bir bahar har olduğu kadar Pervaneyim diyemem güneşe sevgili kadar Çürüyor bedenim kifayetsiz,sessiz ve sen kadar   Winter is my spring when the live ember falls Time is my medicine autumn, past eternity, fall As much as a spring becomes a fire in my life I can´t say i am a moth to the sun as much as the beloved  My body decays, scant, silent and as much as you.    Üşüyorum,yorgunum bensizliğime I am chilling, i am tired to my being without me.       Corrections needed.

Thread: Is this a joke? or serious?

4609.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 May 2010 Fri 11:28 pm   Quoting Tulip inan aynı benziyo çaya bu arada harikasınız I don´t know what she is saying about this picture, but it looks like a joke? So if someone can translate in English I would appreciate it very much, Thank you!    Believe me, it looks like a tea/brook. By the way you(plural) are wonderful.   Çay has two different meanings in Turkish. One is tea, other is brook.

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4610.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 May 2010 Fri 11:25 pm   Quoting karinalinares   bugün bana herkez fenerbahçe yener dedi dedim ölmüş dedem gelse söylese yinede inanmam daha çok uzun seneler geçer ben belki göremem        Today everybody told me "Fenerbahçe will win". I told "if my dead grandfather come and say it,even i don´t believe it. Many long years will pass, perhaps i won´t still see it." Edited (5/7/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: eng to turkish please

4611.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 May 2010 Wed 08:55 pm   Quoting deli eeeee   how would one say   I would  like to know, then    Bilmek isterdim.

Thread: Please translate this sentence in English- Thank you!

4612.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 May 2010 Wed 07:59 pm   Quoting deli      Thanks sweetheart,is love necessarily the name of a relationship between two people? We should open out heart and soul to every kind of love. Anyway Ive spoke too much again       my try

Thread: T to E my attempt :-)

4613.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 May 2010 Wed 07:54 pm   Quoting melek08      Emrah`in evinde Yalçin´la tanıştım. (correct)   My attempt

Thread: eng to turkish please

4614.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 May 2010 Wed 07:51 pm   Quoting deli      Merhaba  Fatma, kizın mı bilmek isterim.     selamlar        my try but wait for gokuyum to correct it     Edited (5/5/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Get well translation would be needed.(e-t)thanx a lot

4615.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 May 2010 Wed 07:48 pm   Quoting ay07 I wish you could get well so soon! I am thinking of you a lot and sending some healing power Dont forget to get some garlic and mint tea. And even more dont forget that i love you so much! Kisses on your nose and sweet lips    Umarım çok çabuk iyi olursun. Seni çok düşünüyorum ve sana iyileşme gücü yolluyorum. Sarımsak yemeyi ve nane çayı içmeyi unutma. Ve dahası seni çok sevdiğimi unutma. Burnunun üstüne ve tatlı dudaklarına öpücükler.

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4616.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 May 2010 Wed 07:41 pm   Quoting deli      it maybe possible some people dont love you, im trying to value you as much as I can   my try

Thread: Translation check - Turk to Eng - I am not very good! :-)

4617.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 May 2010 Tue 06:36 pm   Quoting melek08    Güzel gözlerin nerede? Ikisini de öpmek istiyorum Seni cok özledim/özlüyorum   My attempt

Thread: Translation check - Turk to Eng - I am not very good! :-)

4618.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 May 2010 Tue 06:33 pm   Quoting Maureen75 Hi all,   Could you please let me know if I am saying this right?? my Turkish is not very good and I think it might not make sense!!   Nerede senin güzel gözlerin her ikisini de öpmek istiyorum Seni çok özledim/özlüyorum.   I am trying to say - where are your beautiful eyes I want to kiss them both I miss you so much  - excuse the soppy content ha ha   Thanks in advance     Edited (5/4/2010) by gokuyum Edited (5/4/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: From Turkish to English Please

4619.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 May 2010 Tue 04:12 pm   Quoting khorshid Please can any one transilate these to me?   merhaba nasil sin canim sane coook seveyorum emenim sanda bergun bane seve caksin en salah     merhaba murat cim nedan hec sor mi yorsun bani ban sani gordum san bane gormak estami yor muydun?   afet bane cunku bidaha asla kemsayla konusmam ban ensanim kurdim diye namusum yokmu valah ban ber aila cucugyum babamin anemin namusunu bu dunyaya var mam bil mam kim hakimda konus mus ama cook ayip yazik lar olsun ayar bande dyar kiz lar gibi kande resim lari mi koysaydim iyidim semde alaha havalet edi yorum kim bana bu laf lari at missa   merhaba murat nasilsin nedan bane sormuyorsun murat ban sane cooooooooook seviyorum unut mabane ne olur   Thanks    Turkish to Turkish:              Merhaba nasılsın canım seni çok seviyorum. Eminim sen de bir gün beni seveceksin inşallah.              Merhaba Muratcığım neden hiç sormuyorsun beni? Ben seni gördüm sen beni görmek istemiyor muydun?              Affet beni çünkü bir daha kimseyle konuşmam. Ben insanım, Kürdüm diye namusum yok mu? Valla ben bir aile çocuğuyum babamın annemin namusunu bu dünyaya vermem(değişmem). Bilmem kim hakkımda konuşmuş ama çok ayıp yazıklar olsun. Eğer ben de diğer kızlar gibi kendi resimlerimi koysaydım iyiydim. Seni de(?) Allah´a havale ediyorum kim bana bu lafları atmışsa.              Merhaba Murat nasılsın neden beni sormuyorsun? Murat ben seni çok seviyorum unutma beni ne olur?   Edited (5/4/2010) by gokuyum Edited (5/4/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: From Turkish to English Please

4620.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 May 2010 Tue 03:56 pm   Quoting MarioninTurkey   Quoting khorshid afet bane cunku bidaha asla kemsayla konusmam ban ensanim kürdüm diye namusum yokmu valah ban ber aila cucugyum babamin anemin namusunu bu dunyaya var mam bil mam kim hakimda konus mus ama cook ayip yazik lar olsun ayar bande dyar kiz lar gibi kande resim lari mi koysaydim iyidim semde alaha havalet edi yorum kim bana bu laf lari at missa   Turkish to  Turkish: Affet beni, bir daha asla kimseyle konuşmam. Ben insanım, Kürdüm diye namusum yok mu? Valla ben bir aile çocuğuyum. Babamın annemin namusunu bu dünyaya vermem (değişmem). Bilmem kim hakkımda konuşmuş ama çok ayıp yazıklar olsun. Eğer ben de diğer kızlar gibi kendi resimlerimi koysaydım iyiydim. Seni de (?) Allah´a havale ediyorum kim bana bu lafları atmışsa      Forgive me because I will never speak with anyone again. I am a human. Because I am a Kurd, don´t i have honor? God is my witness I am the child of a good family,I don´t replace my mum´s and dad´s honor by this world.. I don´t know who spoke about me like this, but it is really rude and they should be ashamed of themselves. If I had put my pictures like the other girls I would have been good(in your/their eyes) . I give it over to God (an idiom meaning I hope God deals with it!) whoever said these things about me     Edited (5/4/2010) by gokuyum Edited (5/4/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Small translation from Turkish to english please

4621.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 May 2010 Tue 03:37 pm   Quoting MarioninTurkey   Quoting Scully54321   nasılsın ne war ne çok kardeşim burdamısın yoksa gittinmi ingiltereye walla lisa we sen çok uyumlu bi çift olmuşsunuz saygılar kardeşim amma da .... be yaaaaaaa  senin meşhur lafın ankarada herkes biliyo artık bu lafı   Hi bro´ what´s new with you Are you here or have you gone to England I swear to God, you and Lisa really make a great pair With respect bro´ Very much  .... be yaaaa ( Everyone in Ankara now knows your famous comment   amma da (slang) means "very much" be yaa means  something like "wow" (but not literally)   Example: Bu elbise sana amma da yakışmış be yaa. This dress has befitted you very much wow.   Edited (5/4/2010) by gokuyum Edited (5/4/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Short T -> E translation, assistance lutfen! =)

4622.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 May 2010 Tue 03:23 pm   Quoting Naela   "kiiiiziiiiimmmm... cvp vrsne merak ediyoyrum artik seni."     I get a feeling that there are som letters missing and that this was written in a slang like fashion so I am not completely successful in my own translation attempts.   Thanks a bunch in advance for any assistance!!!   /Naela   Turkish to Turkish: Kızım, cevap versene merak ediyorum artık seni.   My girl (slang), answer me, I am worrying about you.

Thread: T2E please very short

4623.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 May 2010 Mon 04:31 pm   Quoting deli      something like hello, if its its convenient for you to call,I will ask something concerning work   my try    Merhaba, eğer araman uygunsa, sana işle ilgili bir şeyler soracağım. Edited (5/3/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: T2E please very short

4624.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 May 2010 Mon 04:20 pm   Quoting Gazelle Could someone please translate this for me (there may be some incorrect letters!)     Merhaba müsayitsen cagri at isle ilgili bir sey soracam     şimdiden teşekkürler  Hi! If you are available , have my phone ring. I will ask you something about business.

Thread: T-E

4625.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 May 2010 Sun 08:07 pm   Quoting yilgun-2010 BİR YAZARIN İŞLEVİ / GÖREVİ NEDİR? What is the function/duty of a writer?    Bir yazar, köşe yazarı olsun, romancı olsun, tiyatro-oyun yazarı olsun, öykü yazarı olsun, şair-ozan olsun, neyi anlatır? Hayatı anlatır!   What does a writer tell, no matter if he/she is a columnist,a novelist, a theatre-play writer,a story teller,a poet-minstrel? He/she tells the life.   Bir başka deyişle yaşamı bütün yönleriyle gerçekçi olarak algılar ve okuyucuya yansıtır Kendi çevresini anlatır.Güncel olayları anlatır.İnsanları ve nesneleri anlatır.Olaylardan ibret alınmasını anlatır.Çevresi ne kadar genişse, o kadar çok şey anlatır.Anlatırken, bir bakıma evrenselleşir.   With another saying he/she understands life with its all sides realistically and reflect it to the reader. He/she tells his/her environment. He/she tells actual events. He/she tells people and things. He/she tells learning a lesson from events. As much as his/her environment is wide, he/she tells as much as it. While telling, he/she becomes universal in a way.   Anlatırken, okuyucuyu eğitir. Anlatırken, okuyucunun insan olmasına katkı sağlar. Dünya ülkelerinde, sanat ve edebiyat, ne kadar çok tanıtılırsa, ne kadar çok ilgi görürse, ne kadar çok sevilirse, ne kadar okunursa, dünya o kadar güzelleşir.   While telling he/she educates the reader. While educating he/she assists people in the process of them being human. As much as he/she is introduced to societies of arts and literature , as much as people show interest in him, as much as he is loved, world becomes beautiful as much as it.   O zaman, dünyada yaşanmakta olan çirkinlikler ve kötülükler yok olur.Kötü insan kalmaz. İşte, yazarın gerçek işlevi budur: Dünyanın ve yaşamın, insana yakışır bir şekilde güzelleşmesine katkıda bulunmak! Yazar, bu işlevini yerine getirebildiği ölçüde yazar olur.   That time, the badness and uglinesses which are lived disappears. No bad person remains. Here is the real function of the writer:  To assist the process of world becoming beautiful in a way expected from a human. The writer becomes a writer as much as he/she fulfills that duty of his/her.         Please somebody correct me.

Thread: Türk Şairi Cahit Sıtkı TARANCI

4626.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 May 2010 Sun 07:33 pm   Quoting scalpel      Come back goku. Forum needs you more than me. Leaving the forum this way, you make me the target of all their arrows. I cannot do all the translations here all by my own! Please, come back and save me! I promise, I wont bother you anymore.   If that comment blaming me being a racist is a joke I will come back. But I don´t think I will discuss again. I was always well-intentioned  in all my discussions. I tried to explain you(plural) some facts with documents. But you  insulted me. If you continue to insult me i will take a break. And will return to my busy schedule. I am preparing a thesis about Turkish Teaching and i am busy. Have a nice day.

Thread: Türk Şairi Cahit Sıtkı TARANCI

4627.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 May 2010 Sat 09:55 pm   Quoting scalpel      You are being racist listing this thing...you shouldn´t make someone´s hair stand straight up.    Don´t be such a drama queen. It is not racist unless you use it that way. They r only numbers. People see what they want to see. I am against racism. I defended Gypsies but you never supported me. Only Barba-Mama defended gypsies.Where were you? These are statistics. What is your problem with them? It shows the approach of Turks to other nations. It can be used in a scientific text. It is not my approach. I believe only uneducated people can be stubborn.Not a nation. If it is racist admins should delete them. I am sick of you.I will quit from this site because of you. Edited (5/1/2010) by gokuyum Edited (5/1/2010) by gokuyum Edited (5/1/2010) by gokuyum Edited (5/1/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Türk Şairi Cahit Sıtkı TARANCI

4628.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 May 2010 Sat 06:32 pm   Quoting scalpel      Haha! I have some Albanian roots in my family. Maybe this can explain why I am stubborn!         Statistics:   Search results in Google   "Arnavut inadı" (Albenian stubborness) :  4400   "Çerkes inadı" (Circissian stubborness):  124   "Türk İnadı " (Turkish stubborness) : 150   "Kürt inadı" (Kurdish stubborness) : 704   "Ermeni İnadı" (Armenian stubborness) : 104   "Rum inadı" (Grek stubborness) :  173   "Laz inadı" (Laz stubborness) : 1690   "Yahudi inadı" (Jew stubborness) : 61   "Arap inadı" (Arab stubborness) : 8 Edited (5/1/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Türk Şairi Cahit Sıtkı TARANCI

4629.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 May 2010 Sat 04:03 pm   Quoting scalpel Quoting:gokuyum GARİP KİŞİ Stranger Person   Bir akşam ilk olarak ağladım, Bekar odamın penceresinde. Hani ev bark? Hani çoluk çocuk? Ne geçti elime bu hayatın Meyhanesinde, kerhanesinde? Yatağım her gece böyle soğuk. Saadet bu ömrün neresinde?   In a evening I cried for the first time At the fenster of my single room Where is home, dwelling? Where are children, kids?  What I earned in this life´s Tavern, brothel? My bed is always such cold every night Where is the happiness in this life?    Miserable   One evening I cried for the first time in my life by the window of my single lodge room. Where is home? Where is family? What have I ever got from the bars and brothels in this world? My bed is cold at night. Where is the happiness in life I live   my try  Thank u scalpel. I corrected some mitakes of mine. You are stubborn but helpful. Have a nice day   Edited (5/1/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Türk Şairi Cahit Sıtkı TARANCI

4630.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 May 2010 Sat 02:31 pm I translated them.

Thread: Statics

4631.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 May 2010 Sat 12:46 pm   Quoting hedef just out of curiosity, what is the point behind making these analyses? i.e. is their any significancy? and what are they? may I ask    Check spritzer´s comments if they are not deleted. http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_46507   I don´t care the numbers of negative or positive topics. I care who opened how many negative or possitive topics. Find yourself.

Thread: Noah´s ark

4632.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 May 2010 Sat 01:42 am I don´t believe such an ark has ever existed. I don´t believe you can find it on Judi Mountain or on Ararat Mountain. It is impossible to exist such an ark. Every pair of animals in an ark. Is it possible? I say long live science because only science can show us the facts. But I respect your beliefs. I am surprized how Muslims can defend it is on Mount Ararat. I showed documents but they believe what they believe. One day when  this ark thing is explained as a fake, I think they will make wordplays and say I never believed it. The main problem of most people they don´t argue with documents. They underestimate documents and one who argues with documents. They say can´t you express yourself with your own sentences. Yes i can but it will take me nowhere untill i talk with proofs. I use quotes in my discussions to end them quickly. I don´t like talking based on my ass. I am not a scientist also. I only love science. Some people try to insult me saying I am a bad science man. But they even don´t respect good scientists. They see them destroyers of world. So how can I discuss with them? They insult everything. All they do is insulting with their assumptions. I explain them facts patiently but all i get at the and is a laughter. I will not discuss anymore. Because you make every discussion a personal matter. You don´t want anybody to criticize you. You want people to say you are always right. Some of you blame westerners and try to show us like angels, some of you insult gypsies and expect to be appreciated some of you curse science and want nobody say anything. Be more open minded. Appreciate opposite ideas. I dont know what is wrong with you. I will never discuss with you. Have a nice day.

Thread: Noah´s ark

4633.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 May 2010 Sat 01:10 am   Quoting armegon     You actually dont know what you say. I dont defend anything and where did i declare Quran is wrong? Again hallucination?I just said Quran does not tell exactly what al judi is, people interpret this as mount Judi, many Islamic scholars say the same, do they declare Quran is wrong? Shorly it can be on today´s mount Judi according to some scholars but according to some it  is not clear where it was rested.   Lastly gokuyum, sorry to say but it seems you dont know anything about the subject. It can be clearly understood from the quotes in your post, how can a follower of science put those here as a quote? Besides there was no discussion because you were unable to answer any of my questions except quoting some nondescript heresays here.  In my opinion you as a big follower of science should stay away from this kind of topics otherwise yourself damage your forever science charisma here badly...      Don´t make me laugh

Thread: Türk Şairi Cahit Sıtkı TARANCI

4634.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 May 2010 Sat 12:23 am I will translate them tomorrow. Don´t worry. I love literature. Hope someone will correct my translation. Thank you for your sensibility about Turkish literature. Have a nice day. Edited (5/1/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Noah´s ark

4635.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 May 2010 Sat 12:14 am   Quoting gokuyum   Maybe Ararat is the other name of Judi Mountain not Judi is the other name of Ararat Mountain.Maybe both of them are true but in a different way   So this discussion ends. See you in other discussions. Bye. (Long live science)    You misundertood me again. According to documents even some Jews and some Christians believe it is on Judi Mountain. Maybe by saying Ararat Torah mentions Judi Mountain. Shortly it must be found on Judi Mountain according to Quran not Ararat mountain. So this whole think is a fake according to Quran and by defending the opposite you are declaring Quran is wrong. Deal with it. You lost the discussion. Be brave enought to admit defeath. Don´t make wordplays. I showed you many documents. Last document was a killer. ( http://www.testimony-magazine.org/back/sep2001/benson2.pdf) Accept the defeat honestly. I am defending Quran as an agnostic but you try to prove it wrong. What a weird world.

Thread: Poem E - T (askerlik hakkinda)

4636.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Apr 2010 Fri 11:16 pm   Quoting melek08 Thank you so much gokuyum. You are really a kind person I would gladly hire you as my personal translator   I wish you a great evening - I am very grateful for your help.    I translate them because i think you send them someone you love far away from you.I respect love. I am a romantic. But don´t force me too much to translate them every day Have a nice night. Edited (4/30/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Noah´s ark

4637.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Apr 2010 Fri 10:56 pm Quote: The first person to identify the mountain now known as Ararat as the place where the Ark came to rest was a traveller called Vincent de Beauvais in the thirteenth century. Other travellers, such as Marco Polo, took it for granted that this was correct, and it has become an accepted fact. However, before this the Ark was believed to have come to rest on a much lower peak, situated well to the south. This mountain is a peak about 6,000 feet (2,000 metres) high called Judi (or Chudi) Dagh, situated north of the Iraqi city of Mosul in the Iraq/Turkey border area.1 It is part of the Zagreb mountain range, which rears into the sky to the northeast of the Tigris valley. Both Josephus and the Koran say that the Ark came to rest on Mount Judi. On this mountain a Kurdish tribe called the Yezidis were found by travellers in the early part of last century to be offering sacrifices commemorating the ones offered by Noah when he left the Ark (Gen. 8:2. The Nestorian church built monasteries on the slopes of Judi Dagh, and one on its summit, because of its association with Noah. An ancient Jewish legend says that the Assyrian emperor Sennacherib reverenced a plank of wood which came from the Ark, and there are Assyrian carvings of Sennacherib cut into the rocks of Judi Dagh. The third-century-B.C. Babylonian historian Berossus said that the Ark came to rest in the land of the Kurds, which in those times was the area where Judi Dagh is, not the area further north where Mount Ararat is located. Soon after Noah and his sons went forth from the Ark we read of Noah planting a vineyard and becoming drunk from the wine, perhaps through ignorance of its effect. Ancient traditions say that wine first appeared in Urartu, and the earliest archaeological evidence of wine comes from this area, in the form of an ancient earthenware pot in which traces of wine sediment were found. The coming to rest of the Ark on a mountain just above the Tigris/Euphrates valley is, of course, consistent with the account in Genesis of the first cities after the Flood being founded in that valley. According to history the first urban settlements in that area were founded by a people known as the Sumerians, and the view has been put forward, though not generally accepted, that the name Sumer is derived from Noah’s son Shem. Maybe Ararat is the other name of Judi Mountain not Judi is the other name of Ararat Mountain.Maybe both of them are true but in a different way   So this discussion ends. See you in other discussions. Bye. (Long live science) Edited (4/30/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/30/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/30/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/30/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Noah´s ark

4638.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Apr 2010 Fri 10:37 pm The first person to identify the mountain now known as Ararat as the place where the Ark came to rest was a traveller called Vincent de Beauvais in the thirteenth century. Other travellers, such as Marco Polo, took it for granted that this was correct, and it has become an accepted fact. However, before this the Ark was believed to have come to rest on a much lower peak, situated well to the south. This mountain is a peak about 6,000 feet (2,000 metres) high called Judi (or Chudi) Dagh, situated north of the Iraqi city of Mosul in the Iraq/Turkey border area.1 It is part of the Zagreb mountain range, which rears into the sky to the northeast of the Tigris valley. Both Josephus and the Koran say that the Ark came to rest on Mount Judi. On this mountain a Kurdish tribe called the Yezidis were found by travellers in the early part of last century to be offering sacrifices commemorating the ones offered by Noah when he left the Ark (Gen. 8:2. The Nestorian church built monasteries on the slopes of Judi Dagh, and one on its summit, because of its association with Noah. An ancient Jewish legend says that the Assyrian emperor Sennacherib reverenced a plank of wood which came from the Ark, and there are Assyrian carvings of Sennacherib cut into the rocks of Judi Dagh. The third-century-B.C. Babylonian historian Berossus said that the Ark came to rest in the land of the Kurds, which in those times was the area where Judi Dagh is, not the area further north where Mount Ararat is located. Soon after Noah and his sons went forth from the Ark we read of Noah planting a vineyard and becoming drunk from the wine, perhaps through ignorance of its effect. Ancient traditions say that wine first appeared in Urartu, and the earliest archaeological evidence of wine comes from this area, in the form of an ancient earthenware pot in which traces of wine sediment were found. The coming to rest of the Ark on a mountain just above the Tigris/Euphrates valley is, of course, consistent with the account in Genesis of the first cities after the Flood being founded in that valley. According to history the first urban settlements in that area were founded by a people known as the Sumerians, and the view has been put forward, though not generally accepted, that the name Sumer is derived from Noah’s son Shem.

Thread: Noah´s ark

4639.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Apr 2010 Fri 10:30 pm Hope this will end our discussion: http://www.testimony-magazine.org/back/sep2001/benson2.pdf   Not only Muslims, some Christians and Jews believe it is on Judi mountain. I will say no more. I am not an expert.   Edited (4/30/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Noah´s ark

4640.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Apr 2010 Fri 10:17 pm   Quoting armegon     Most of the Islamics?? In fact none of them can clearly say it was on today´s mount Judi, all were talking about possibility because of nearness to Mezopotamia.   Here is what famous Elmalılı said in his commentary;   "Cudi: Engince bir dağdır ki, Musulda denilmiş, El Cezire´de, Amid´de, Şam´da denilmiş. Ebu Hayyan diyor ki, Cezire´de veya Amid´de denilmesi Musul´s yakınlığı dolayısıyladır. Bir de denilmiş ki, Cudi her dağa söylenebilen bir cins ismidir."   So you just voiced a myth which rooted on people´s mind because of mountain´s name, nothing credible and nothing more. And obviously i wont ask you what i believe in or not...   Not only Islamics but Jew and Christian academics and reverands too. I can´t count all of them. Look below.    KİLDANİ KAYNAKLAR BEROSSUS: Bir Kildani büyücü, rahip ve tarihçi. (İ.Ö. 3.yy)da, Berossus , Babil tufanının bir başka versiyonunu rivayet eder. Bu rivayete göre gemi, Urartu’ da karaya oturmuştur ve geminin bazı parçaları, hala Urartu’ daki Gordyaeans (Cudi) dağlarındadır. Berossus, anlatımına şöyle devam eder. Bazıları, gemiyi kazıyarak zift aldılar ve bunu tılsım yapmada kullandılar. Berossus ‘a göre, Cudi Dağı, hem Gordyaean Dağları’ nda hem de antik Ermenistan (Urartu) sınırındadır. HIRİSTİYAN KAYNAKLAR EUSEBİUS: (İ.S. 3.yy)’da yaşayan,ilk kiliselerin pederlerinden biridir. Gemi ‘nin küçük bir parçasının, kendi zamanında, Gardian (Cudi) dağlarında olduğunu söyler. THE PERSHITTA: Pershitta, Suriyeli Hıristiyanların kullandıkları İncildir. Bu İncilde, Tekvin 8/14′te, Nuh ‘un Gemisi ‘nin, karaya oturduğu yer olarak Quardu(Cudi) Dağı ‘nı yazar. BİZANSIN FAUTUSU: Fautus , (İ.S. 4 .yy)’da yaşayan bir tarihçidir. Bir ermeni tarihçisi olarak bilinmesine rağmen, aslı yunanlıdır. Orjinal çalışmaları kaybolmuştur. Ancak, çalışmasının tercümeleri günümüze kadar ulaşmıştır. Notlarından birinde, Nusaybinli keşiş St. Jakop’tan bahseder. St. Jacop, ALLAH ‘tan kendisine Nuh’un Gemisi’ ni göstermesini istemiş, ALLAH ‘ta, bir melek vasıtasıyla, geminin tahtalarından küçük bir parça göstermiştir. Fautus, bu olayın Cudi Dağı ‘nda gerçekleştiğini yazar. Zaten Nusaybin’de, Cudi Dağına 70 mil mesafede bir kasabadır. (İ.S. 10.yy)a kadar, tüm Ermeni kaynaklar, Nuh’un Gemisi ‘nin, Ermenistan’ın güneyinde bir yerde olduğunu söyler. EPİPHANIUS: Selanik patriği , (İ.S. 4yy)’de yaşamış, din düşmanlarına karşı oldukça etkili olmuştur. Gemi’ nin, Gordian (Cudi) Dağlarında olduğunu belirtmiştir. Ve birinin dikkatli incelemesi halinde, Nuh’un Sunağı’ nı görebileceğini eklemiştir. EUTYCHIUS : (İ.S. 9.yy)’da yaşamış, İskenderiye patriğidir. Şöyle demiştir: “Gemi, Ararat Dağlarına oturmuştu. O dağ da Musul ‘un yanındaki, Cebel Cudi ‘dir. Musul antik Ninova ‘nın yanında bir şehirdir ve Cudi Dağı’nın 80 mil güneyindedir. İSLAMİ KAYNAKLAR KUR’AN: Kur’an derki: Gemi geldi ve Cudi ‘ye oturdu. (11/44). Modern İslam ansiklopedisinde, Cudi Dağı ‘nı referans gösterir. AL-MASUDİ: (İ.S. 10.yy)’da yaşamıştır. ” Gemi geldi ve Cudi’ye oturdu. Tigris’e (Dicle), 8 fersah uzaklıktadır.” 8 fersah, 25-30 mil karşılığıdır. Bu mesafede, ölçülünce sizi tam olarak Cudi Dağı ‘na götürür. İBN HAUKAL : (İ.S. 10.yy)da yaşamıştır. Cudi’nin Nusaybin kasabasının yanında olduğunu belirtmiştir. Ayrıca Nuh ‘un, dağın dibinde bir köy kurduğunu da eklemiştir. İBN AL-MİD: (İ.S. 13.yy)’da yaşamıştır. 7.yy’da imparator olan Herakliyus ‘un bölgeyi görmek için, Cudi Dağı ‘na tırmanmak istediğini yazmıştır. ZAKARIYA BIN MUHAMMED AL-KAZWINE: (İ.S. 13.yy)’da yaşamış bir Müslüman coğrafyacıdır. Gemi ‘nin tahtaları kullanılarak, bir manastır inşa edildiğini kaydetmiştir. Yer belirtmemiştir. YAHUDİ KAYNAKLAR SAMİRİ TEVRATI (İlk beş kitap): Samirilerin kabul ettiği, Tevrat ‘ın sadece ilk beş kitabından oluşan bu metne göre, Nuh’un Gemi ’si, Kuzey Asur bölgesinde bulunan Kürt (Cudi ) Dağları’nda, karaya oturmuştur. TARGUM: Targum metinleri, Yahudiler, Babil ‘deki ilk sürgünden döndüklerinde, Aramice yazılmış metinlerdir. 3 Targum vardır: Onkelos , Neofiti ve Pseudo Jonatan. Bunların üçüde geminin karaya oturma yerini, Quardu Dağları (Kürt Dağları olarak belirtir. JOSEPHUS: (İ.S. 1.yy)’da yaşamış, Roma İmparatorluğuna sadık bir Yahudi tarihçidir. Gerçek bir entelektüeldir ve Pavlos ile de çağdaştır. Roma İmparatorluğu’nun resmi görevli tarihçisi olduğu için, zamanının tüm kütüphane ve arşivlerine rahatça ulaşabiliyordu. Kitaplarında, Nuh’un Gemisi ‘nden 3 yerde bahsetmiştir. Josephus, Nuh’un Gemisi ‘nin karaya oturduğu yeri, kesinlikle Cudi Dağı olarak belirtmiştir. BENJAMİN OF TUDELA: ( İ.S.12.yy)’da yaşamıştır. Seyahat ettiğinde, şöyle yazmıştır. Eski şehrin kalıntıları, Cezire bin Ömer’ e, 2 günlük mesafede bulunan Tigris (Dicle) deki Ararat dağındadır. Ömer bin El Hattab, Gemi ‘yi zirveden aldı ve ondan cami yaptırdı.(Bu da, Cudi’ye Ararat dendiğinin bir delilidir.)

Thread: Türk Şairi Cahit Sıtkı TARANCI

4641.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Apr 2010 Fri 10:11 pm   Quoting yilgun-2010 Şair Cahit Sıtkı Tarancı’dan bir şiir demeti:   HATIRALAR Memories    Bilmem ki hâtıralar, Ne istersiniz benden, Gelir gelmez sonbahar?   I don´t know memories what you want from me as soon as autumn comes?   Bu kanad çırpış neden? Cama vuracak ne var Ey eski hâtıralar   Why is this wing beat? What reason to hit the fenster O old memories?    Sanmayın güller açar, Bülbül değildir öten; Bu rüzgâr başka rüzgâr.   Don´t think roses open, It is not nightingale singing; This wind is a different wind      Ne istersiniz benden, Bilmem ki hâtıralar, Gelir gelmez sonbahar?   What do u want from me, I don´t know As soon as autumn comes?    DESEM Kİ If I say that    Desem ki vakitlerden bir Nisan akşamıdır, Rüzgârların en ferahlatıcısı senden esiyor, Sende seyrediyorum denizlerin en mavisini, Ormanların en kuytusunu sende gezmekteyim, Senden kopardım çiçeklerin en solmazını, Toprakların en bereketlisini sende sürdüm, Sende tattım yemişlerin cümlesini.    If I say that time is a night of April The most refreshing wind is blowing from you I am watching the bluest of seas at you I am wandering most sheltered of forests at you I picked up the most unwilting of flowers from you I plowed the most abundant of soils at you I tasted all of fruits at you    Desem ki sen benim için, Hava kadar lazım, Ekmek kadar mübarek, Su gibi aziz bir şeysin; Nimettensin, nimettensin!   If I say that you are  Neccessary for me as much as air Blessed as much as bread and a dear thing like water. You are of blessing, blessing    Desem ki... İnan bana sevgilim inan, Evimde şenliksin, bahçemde bahar; Ve soframda en eski şarap. Ben sende yaşıyorum, Sen bende hüküm sürmektesin.   If I say that... Believe me my love,believe, You are a festival in my home, you are a spring in my garden And an old wine on my dinner table I live in you You are ruling in me.  Bırak ben söyleyeyim güzelliğini, Rüzgârlarla, nehirlerle, kuşlarla beraber. Günlerden sonra bir gün, Şayet sesimi farkedemezsen, Rüzgârların, nehirlerin, kuşların sesinden, Bil ki ölmüşüm.   Let me to say your beauty With winds, with rivers, with birds One day after days  If you can´t notice my voice From  the voices of winds, rivers, birds Know that I have died.  Fakat yine üzülme, müsterih ol; Kabirde böceklere ezberletirim güzelliğini, Ve neden sonra Tekrar duyduğun gün sesimi gökkubbede, Hatırla ki mahşer günüdür Ortalığa düşmüşüm seni arıyorum.   But don´t be upset, be at ease; In grave I have bugs memorize your beauty After a while One day when you heard my voice at the vault of heaven Remember it is judgment day I have been looking for you around          NOT: P.S.= "DESEM Kİ", HER TOPLANTIDA, HER  ŞİİR GÜNÜNDE, OKUNABİLECEK, HER SEVGİLİYE SÖYLENECEK HARİKA BİR ŞİİR.BENDEN TAVSİYE...   Note: P:S = "If I say that" is a great poem can be read in every meeting, in every poem day and can be said to every lover. An advice from me...   GÜN EKSİLMESİN PENCEREMDEN Let the day not fall away from my fenster   Ne doğan güne hükmüm geçer, Ne halden anlayan bulunur; Ah aklımdan ölümüm geçer; Sonra bu kuş, bu bahçe, bu nur. Ve gönül Tanrısına der ki: - Pervam yok verdiğin elemden; Her mihnet kabulüm, yeter ki Gün eksilmesin penceremden!   Neither I have authority over the rising day Nor one who sympathizes can be found Ah my death crosses my mind Then this bird, this garden, this heavenly light And heart says that to its God: I have no concern of suffering you give I willingly give my consent to every trouble, as long as Let the day not fall away from my fenster.   (Great poem)    OTUZBEŞ YAŞ ŞİİRİ The poem of age of 35     Yaş otuz beş! yolun yarısı eder. Dante gibi ortasındayız ömrün. Delikanlı çağımızdaki cevher, Yalvarmak, yakarmak nafile bugün, Gözünün yaşına bakmadan gider.   Age is 35. It does the half of way. We are in the middle of life like Dante. The ore in our youth age (It is in vain to beg, to invoke today)  Goes away without looking at tears of your eyes Şakaklarıma kar mı yağdı ne var? Benim mi Allahım bu çizgili yüz? Ya gözler altındaki mor halkalar? Neden böyle düşman görünürsünüz, Yıllar yılı dost bildiğim aynalar?   Did it snow to my temples, what is that? Is this face with lines mine my God? What if purple circles under my eyes? Why do you seem such enemy The mirrors that I have known as friends all these years.  Zamanla nasıl değişiyor insan! Hangi resmime baksam ben değilim. Nerde o günler, o şevk, o heyecan? Bu güler yüzlü adam ben değilim; Yalandır kaygısız olduğum yalan.   How a person changes with the time! If i look at any picture, it is not me. Where are those days, that enthusiasm, that excitement This cheerful man isn´t me It is a lie that I am carefree, it is a lie.  Hayal meyal şeylerden ilk aşkımız; Hatırası bile yabancı gelir. Hayata beraber başladığımız, Dostlarla da yollar ayrıldı bir bir; Gittikçe artıyor yalnızlığımız.   Our first love is of vaguely things; Its memory seems even unfamilliar With the friends we had started to life together Our ways parted one by one. Our loneliness increases with the time.  Gökyüzünün başka rengi de varmış! Geç farkettim taşın sert olduğunu. Su insanı boğar, ateş yakarmış! Her doğan günün bir dert olduğunu, İnsan bu yaşa gelince anlarmış.   There has been another colour of sky! I noticed late that stone was hard Water has chocked men, fire has burnt Men has understood at this age  Every day rises is another trouble.  Ayva sarı nar kırmızı sonbahar! Her yıl biraz daha benimsediğim. Ne dönüp duruyor havada kuşlar? Nerden çıktı bu cenaze? ölen kim? Bu kaçıncı bahçe gördüm tarumar?   An autumn which is yellow quince, red pomegranate! I appropriate it more every year. Why are birds wheeling around in the sky? Where has this funeral appeared? Who is the dead? What is the number of this garden I have seen scattered Neylersin ölüm herkesin başında. Uyudun uyanamadın olacak. Kimbilir nerde, nasıl, kaç yaşında? Bir namazlık saltanatın olacak, Taht misali o musalla taşında.   What can you do? Death is near everybody. It will become "you had slept but you couldn´t wake up"  Who knows where, at which age? You will have a sultanate only for a one prayer time.  Like a throne on that stone where your corpse will lie   GARİP KİŞİ Stranger Person   Bir akşam ilk olarak ağladım, Bekar odamın penceresinde. Hani ev bark? Hani çoluk çocuk? Ne geçti elime bu hayatın Meyhanesinde, kerhanesinde? Yatağım her gece böyle soğuk. Saadet bu ömrün neresinde?   One evening I cried for the first time By the fenster of my single room Where is home, dwelling? Where are children, kids?  What I earned in this life´s Taverns, brothels? My bed is always such cold every night Where is the happiness in this life?     Please somebody correct me. 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Thread: Please help me with this TRK to ENG, thanks

4642.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Apr 2010 Fri 09:45 pm   Quoting bryang These are two: thanks a lot anyone    1. ben feleğin şu çarkına çomak sokarım! I stick a cudgel into the wheel of this fate! (means "I rebel to this fate")     2. Ruhundan ruh üfledin bana Rabbim! Bende her nefesimde seni yad edeceğim, sadece bana verdiğin şeyler için değil,  benden esirgediklerin için de şükredeceğim. Yalnız “sen” bilirsin benim için neyin hayırlı olduğunu sabredip bekleyeceğim.  You blew a spirit from your spirit to me oh Lord! So i will remember you with my every breath. I will be thankful not for only the things you gave me but also the things you didn´t give me. Only you know what is good for me. I will wait patiently.

Thread: Corrections for my attempts please E-T

4643.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Apr 2010 Fri 09:35 pm   Quoting Melike1 I have been learning Turkish for seven months Ben yedi aydan beri Türkçe öğreniyorum   Isn´t it better to say: (Ben) yedi aydır Türkçe öğreniyorum    Both correct i dont know which one is better.

Thread: Noah´s ark

4644.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Apr 2010 Fri 09:23 pm   Quoting lemon gokuyum, can you say anything in your own words?    yes "forever science"

Thread: Help with this translation, into English please

4645.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Apr 2010 Fri 07:38 pm   Quoting bryang Thank you Forum, here it is: gündü ağardı,geceydi karardı,açtığı kapıyı kendi kapattı      It was the day, it turned gray, it was the night, it turned  black, he/she closed the door which he/she had opened.

Thread: Noah´s ark

4646.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Apr 2010 Fri 07:16 pm   Quoting armegon     I guess you dont read as well, does this clearly says and proves its on mount Judi or talking about possibility?    Most of the Islamic academicians belive it must be on Judi Mountain. I showed you my documents. I don´t have more to say. Believe what you believe. I don´t believe such an Ark has ever existed. Have a nice day. Edited (4/30/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Noah´s ark

4647.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Apr 2010 Fri 07:00 pm http://www.aliaksoy.net/2008/05/11/nuhun-gemisinin-son-rihtimi-cudi/     I guess you dont read. Check this also: http://www.defending-islam.com/page133.html                        Edited (4/30/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Poem E - T (askerlik hakkinda)

4648.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Apr 2010 Fri 05:03 pm   Quoting melek08 I feel a loss I feel a deep dark emptiness within my soul   Bir kayıp hissediyorum Ruhumda derin bir boşluk hissediyorum   I feel a loss A hollow, lonely aching in my heart that no one can fill   Bir kayıp hissediyorum.  Bir boşluk, ağrıyan bir yalnızlık kalbimde ki kimse dolduramaz    Though I know this feeling is only temporary I once looked into this abyss many years ago   Bu hissin geçici olduğunu bilmeme rağmen, Yıllar önce bir kere derin boşluğa baktım   But then I felt the loss to be permanent Irreversible decisions made by hasty minds that ignored their hearts    Ama sonra hissettim ki bu kayıp kalıcı.  Kalplerini görmezden gelen aceleci zihinler tarafından verilen geridönülemez kararlar   Anguish and profound sorrow would be the emotions of the day The day that would last months and then years   Izdırap ve çok derin kederler günün duyguları olurdu. Gün ki aylar ve sonra yıllar sürerdi.   Lost and alone I would stumble through life looking to replace you Looking to replace the only love that had ever touched my very soul   Kayıp ve yalnız sürçerdim hayat boyu senin yerine başka birini yerleştirmek için Bakınırdım ruhuma dokunmuş tek aşkı başka bir aşkla değişmek için   I would never succeed, never find that love again For we were created only for each other   Başaramazdım, tekrar o aşkı bulamazdım Çünkü biz sadece birbirimiz için yaratıldık.    Only we knew how to comfort and care for one another Only we knew how to love and bond with one another   Sadece biz bildik birbirimize nasıl huzur vereceğimizi ve birbirimize nasıl bakacağımızı Sadece biz bildik nasıl sevileceğini ve bir diğerine nasıl bağlanılacağını   Nothing compares or is even comparable We found each other again and the healing has begun   Hiçbir şey karşılaştırılmaz hatta karşılaştırılabilir değildir Bulduk birbirimizi tekrar ve iyileşme başladı    But I feel a loss Your life has taken you to the other side of the world from me   Ama bir kayıp hissediyorum Yaşamın seni benden alıp dünyanın diğer bir ucuna yolladı   While I stand in the cold breeze Gazing at a night canvass speckled with glimmering stars   Duruken soğuk bir esintide Gözümü dikmiş hafifçe parıldıyan yıldızlarla benekli bir gece tuvalinde    You are alone in a house, in a town far away I am alone in our bed buried deep in the blankets   Sen uzak bir şehirde yalnız başına evdesin Ben yalnızım yatağımızda yorgalanlara derince gömülü halde   Oh how I long to smell your sweet scent upon my blankets as I retire How I miss your arms around me and your soft breath upon my cheek   Nasıl özledim yorganların üstündeki  o tatlı kokunu yatağa çekildiğimde Nasıl özledim kollarını çevremde ve yumuşak nefesini yanağımın üstünde.    I yearn to feel our hearts beating together once more Like two lonely doves that found each other in the darkest of nights   Çok özlüyorum kalplerimizin birkez daha beraber çarpmasını En karanlık gecede birbirini bulan iki yalnız kumru gibi    Though I know that we share our unique connection The bond that can never be broken despite the distance between us   Gerçi biliyorum özel bir bağı paylaştığımızı Bir bağ ki aramızdaki mesafeye rağmen kırılamaz.      I still feel a loss I can never explain how much I miss you or how lost I feel right now   Hala bir kayıp hissediyorum Açıklayamam yeterince sana seni nasıl özlediğimi ve şimdi nasıl hissettiğimi   Only by returning to your arms will this pain cease Only in your arms do I feel safe, warm and loved   Sadece kollarına dönerek bu acı dinecek Sadece kollarında güvende, sıcak ve sevilmiş hissedeceğim    I cannot go on without your love to light my way I cannot go on without your strength to carry me through the darkness   Senin yolumu aydınlatan aşkın olmadan devam edemem Senin beni karanlıklar boyunca taşıyan gücün olmadan devam edemem   Only 6 more months 6 more months until we unite once more   Sadece 6 ay daha 6 ay daha tekrar birleşinceye kadar.    6 more months Then I will feel a loss no more   6 ay daha Sonra bir kaybı daha hissetmeyeceğim     My try. My 5. (maybe 6) poem translation for you. Please hire me as a translator.  Have a nice day

Thread: Statics

4649.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Apr 2010 Fri 04:09 pm   Quoting scalpel      You know they say there are three types of lies: 1)  lies 2) damn lies 3) Statistics    http://www.blurtit.com/q437598.html

Thread: Statics

4650.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Apr 2010 Fri 04:07 pm   Quoting turkaturk      Very interesting, but I don´t think that´s necessary!     good one. Edited (4/30/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/30/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Noah´s ark

4651.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Apr 2010 Fri 04:00 pm   Quoting armegon     If you had researched a little bit of Quran before saying this, you would have known that the word "al judi" is not necessarily pointing out a particular mount name, the Arabic word "judi" means "high place, hill".  So that the word "judi" can refer to waters reaching only a certain level of height not covering all the land. In fact Quran never says its a global flood, and punishment was only for the people of Noah not all people. Moreover at one time the name Ararat(Assyrian Urartu) was used for the region which compasses also mount Judi...    check this: http://www.nevsada.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=556:gemi-icin-nuh-demiyorlar&catid=88:haber   check this also : http://www.aliaksoy.net/2008/05/11/nuhun-gemisinin-son-rihtimi-cudi/    Look at Süleyman Ateş´s comment. He knows Qoran better than you. I can find you many Islamıc academicians who believes Noah´a Ark should be on Cudi Mountain.   YUSUFALI: Then the word went forth: "O earth! swallow up thy water, and O sky! Withhold (thy rain)!" and the water abated, and the matter was ended. The Ark rested on Mount Judi, and the word went forth: "Away with those who do wrong!" PICKTHAL: And it was said: O earth! Swallow thy water and, O sky! be cleared of clouds! And the water was made to subside. And the commandment was fulfilled. And it (the ship) came to rest upon (the mount) Al-Judi and it was said: A far removal for wrongdoing folk! SHAKIR: And it was said: O earth, swallow down your water, and O cloud, clear away; and the water was made to abate and the affair was decided, and the ark rested on the Judi, and it was said: Away with the unjust people.   Do you know better than them? If Noah´s Ark is on Ararat, it proves Quran is wrong. As a muslim you shouldn´t believe it is on Ararat. I think this whole Noah´s Ark thing is fake. ( By the way I am a follower of only science)     Edited (4/30/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/30/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/30/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Noah´s ark

4652.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Apr 2010 Thu 10:08 pm   Quoting lemon     Oh, please, gokuyum, why do you do that? Why do you ignore me?   It means you are afraid of me. You are afraid of my answers.   I challenge you to ask me questions.    I am not afraid of you. I have no questions for you. This text expresses my thoughts. Please read it. Then we can discuss. It is not long. I like discussing with documents.   http://www.livescience.com/strangenews/060905_noahs_ark.html  Edited (4/29/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Noah´s ark

4653.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Apr 2010 Thu 09:32 pm   Quoting lemon     You posted a link, a huge text. And then you expect me to cover all point by point?   Ask questions, I will try to answer.    I think you are right. I have no questions. I respect your ideas but i don´t agree with them. But i want to add some information. According to Koran Noah´s Ark should be on Cudi Mountain not on Ararat. I think you are Muslim. Make your decision. Have a nice day.   http://www.arksearch.com/najudi.htm  Edited (4/29/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Noah´s ark

4654.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Apr 2010 Thu 08:46 pm   Quoting lemon     what makes you think that I havent read or heard such arguments? Were you happy to provide me with this link thinking it would be an eye opener to me? In comparison to you I am an open-minded person. As for the flood myths, they are only the facts to support that the flood was true and it happent.   Theres nothing to debunk about Noah´s Ark.    So your answer is this. A few more assumptions. Peh

Thread: Noah´s ark

4655.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Apr 2010 Thu 07:55 pm   Quoting lemon     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-27rqG7OMg        http://www.skepdic.com/noahsark.html

Thread: Noah´s ark

4656.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Apr 2010 Thu 06:55 pm Forever science.

Thread: Noah´s ark

4657.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Apr 2010 Thu 06:47 pm Check this: http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/04/latest_ark_finding_is_a_fake.php Edited (4/29/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Statics

4658.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Apr 2010 Thu 06:28 pm   Quoting girleegirl      I haven´t read the whole topic, just got through the first couple posts so sorry if someone else may have already but I´m just wondering.....who´s to say what is necessary and what is not? (And sorry to tell you this but statistics can absolutely lie.  While the facts are the facts, the stats can be skewed by whoever is compiling them so that they come out in the way the statistician wants)         I mentioned "according to me". I asked your opinions because they are not absolute.Statistics don´t lie but people lie. Edited (4/29/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Statics

4659.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Apr 2010 Thu 06:17 pm   Quoting scalpel      You know they say there are three types of lies: 1)  lies 2) damn lies 3) Statistics      If you try to use statisticcs for lottery games, it will not work. Don´t blame the statistics.  Edited (4/29/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Statics

4660.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Apr 2010 Thu 04:07 pm My statistics:   Negative comments and translations about my country and my people: 20   Positive comments and translations about my country and my people: 21   Negative comments and translations about other countries and their people: 7   Possitive comments and translations about other countries: 5

Thread: Statics

4661.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Apr 2010 Thu 03:30 pm   Quoting turkaturk       So 18 negative and 19 positive posts in the last 90. I see... Do I?    What do you mean by necessary and unnecessary negative topics?   I guess we have a balance here. What do you think, gokuyum?   Did you have fun?  I sure did. Thanks!      Necessary topics mean we can learn something from them and try to improve ourselves. Yes there is a balance in total but how is the balance of individuals? Next i will observe my posts about Turkey. I am a pessimist so i have a lot of negative posts but i think i have a balance i have negative posts about other countries too. Let´s see.

Thread: Statics

4662.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Apr 2010 Thu 03:17 pm   Quoting armegon statistics right?? Static reminds me static electric

Thread: Statics

4663.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Apr 2010 Thu 03:13 pm Negative topics according to me (in last 90 topics) (some of them necessary, some of them not)   http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_46507     http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_46506     http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_45255     http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_43411     http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_43562     http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_42724   http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_41530   http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_41042   http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_40983   http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_40941   http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_40678   http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_40677   http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_40701   http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_40458   http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_40330   http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_40167   http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_40014   http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_40007     Positive Topics according to me (in last 90 topics)   http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_46445     http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_39275     http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_45276     http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_45195     http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_44721     http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_43520     http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_43232   http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_42279   http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_40989   http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_41053   http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_41085   http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_40437   http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_40673   http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_40319   http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_40497   http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_40495   http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_40327   http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_40131   http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_40006

Thread: Statics

4664.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Apr 2010 Thu 02:50 pm thank u lady in red. please correct the topic and wait for my last statistics about last 100 posts. Edited (4/29/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Statics

4665.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Apr 2010 Thu 02:29 pm Statistics don´t lie. They say there are 6 negative, 7 positive topics in the last 45 posts. What is wrong about this? Edited (4/29/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Statics

4666.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Apr 2010 Thu 12:59 pm   Quoting turkaturk I think whenever I decide to post "bad news" or "my facts" I am going to pair it with "good news" and "marshmallow rainbow facts".   Just to keep a balance and disarm ignorance. You know, it is always ready to sneak up on anybody. Personal experience!    Yeah, I think I am going to do that.  Balance is important. I will observe soon last 100 topic and find out if the balance was always like this. So if anybody have doubts about balance they should delete their negative posts. Statistics never lies.   Edited (4/29/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Statics

4667.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Apr 2010 Thu 12:44 pm   Quoting lemon   made me laugh!   All negative threads are by Dutch!   (except one by hairy)   All positive threads are not by Dutch (except one, the fifth, by Dutch, which Im thinking why it is considred as positive?)   Thank you for stats. had fun   You are welcome. By the way I love Dutchs. Do u have some topics to add my list possitive or negative? Have a nice day.   Edited (4/29/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Statics

4668.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Apr 2010 Thu 12:10 pm I observed last 45 topics in News forum and i found 6 of them negative(some of them neccessary, some of them not) about Turkey. I found 7 0f them positive. I always appreciate necessary negative comments. What are your statistics? Or what are your opinions about my statics? Please write which one you agree which one you don´t and why? Have a nice day   Negative topics according to me:   http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_46507 http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_46506 http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_45255 http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_43411 http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_43562 http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_42724     Positive topics according to me: http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_46445 http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_39275 http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_45276 http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_45195 http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_44721 http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_43520 http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_43232    Edited (4/29/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/29/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/29/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/29/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Three more suspects arrested in rape allegations

4669.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Apr 2010 Wed 10:13 pm I think spritzer wants to say everybody should clean their door steps first. It isn´t difficult to find similar news about another country. I think you are free to talk whatever you want. But she has a right to be offended too. She is Canadian, but your approach to subjects makes her angry. In the end you all have freedom of speech. It is your decision to use it positively or negatively. Have a good night.

Thread: T to E my attempt :-)

4670.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Apr 2010 Wed 04:02 pm   Quoting ally81     My try   Ben zeki değilim, sadece meraklıyım correct   correct me please

Thread: Turk to Eng - thanks in advance

4671.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Apr 2010 Wed 04:01 pm   Quoting Suzie 9 gün sonra hangi partiye oy veriyosun     Which political party are you voting for in 9 days? correct

Thread: pretty please

4672.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Apr 2010 Wed 03:59 pm   Quoting deli how do you say you may be/ might be angry at me   bana kızgınabilmaksin?    bana kızgın olabilirsin

Thread: E - T

4673.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Apr 2010 Wed 11:55 am   Quoting scalpel      "İnsanlara yardımcı olmak" kısmı pek inandırıcı değil. Burada çeviri yapanlar iki şeyi önemsiyorlar; bir, oyalanmak (bulmaca çözer gibi vakit geçirmek); iki, teşekkür almak. Yoksa, sırf yardım olsa kimse kimsenin yaralı parmağına...anladın sen onu.    Anyway, you are a big help to many of us here. And you are highly appreciated to help those who need translation and translator...    scalpel her zaman derim insan egoisttir diye teşekkür almasam elbette çevirmem çünkü ben de insanım.

Thread: Turkey gets first nudist hotel in Marmaris

4674.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Apr 2010 Wed 11:22 am   Quoting spritzer I am sure more accidents can happen in a place like this

Thread: E - T

4675.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Apr 2010 Wed 11:19 am   Quoting scalpel      Bütün bu gibileri nereden çıkartıyorsun allah aşkına? Birinci dize, "sen benim için güneşsin" veya "sen bana güneşsin", üçüncü dize de"sen benim için aysın" veya "sen bana aysın" anlamlarına sahipken niye "sen bana güneş gibisin", "sen bana ay gibisin" diye çevirdiğini anlayabilmiş değilim. Bir de, "aydınlatırsın" ve "ışıtırsın" kelimelerini yer değiştirirse iyi olur; gün ışır, yol aydınlanırsa güzel Türkçemize daha uygun düşer diye düşünmekteyim.  Ha, bir de şu var; "because" kelimesini her gördüğün yere peşinen "çünkü" kelimesini yapıştırmaktan vazgeçmelisin çünkü Türkçemizde onu karşılayan ve daha yaygın kullandığımız "için" kelimesi de var. Ben olsam şöyle çevirirdim: Sen benim için güneşsin Günümü ışıtan Ve aysın Yolumu aydınlatan Çok mu edebi oldu? O zaman kafana göre takıl.  Önerilerin için çok sağol onları her zaman dikkate alıyorum. Sen bana güneşsin desem sanki cümlede bir eksiklik oluyor diye düşündüm o yüzden gibileri kullandım. Bu çeviriyi yaparken uzun uzadıya düşünmedim. Gramer açısından doğru olmasını yeterli buldum. Ama tabiki hatalarım var. Bir de ben İngilizce çalışmayalı tam 5 yıl oldu. Bu yüzden bazı şeyler kafamda tam oturmuş değil. Çeviri yapmamın sebebi insanlara yardımcı olmak yanında kendime de yardımcı olmak. Sen ve diğerleri beni düzelttikçe yeni şeyler öğreniyorum. Bu yüzden müteşekkirim. kendine iyi bak.

Thread: E - T

4676.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Apr 2010 Tue 09:24 pm   Quoting melek08 You are the sun to me Because you brighten my day You are the moon to me Because you light my way   Sen bana güneş gibisin Çünkü günümü aydınlatırsın  Sen bana ay gibisin Çünkü yolumu ışıtırsın  You are the sea to me Because your love is endless You are a map to me Because you brought me to happiness   Sen bana deniz gibisin Çünkü aşkın sonsuz Sen bana bir harita gibisin Çünkü bana mutluluk getirdin  You are a book to me Because we are the story You are a tree to me Because you support me fully   Sen bana kitap gibisin Çünkü biz hikaye gibiyiz. Sen bana bir ağaç gibisin Çünkü beni tümüyle desteklersin  You are keys to me Because you set me free You are air to me Because you surround and hold me   Sen bana anahtar gibisin Çünkü beni özgür bırakırsın Sen bana hava gibisin Çünkü beni sarrar ve tutarsın  You are a glove to me Because you fit me like one You are the earth to me Because you are my foundation   Sen bana eldiven gibisin Çünkü bana bir eldiven gibi uyarsın Sen bana yeryüzü gibisin Çünkü sen benim  temelimsin You are water to me Because you keep me living You are food to me Because you satisfy me so   Sen bana su gibisin Çünkü beni yaşatırsın Sen bana besin gibisin Çünkü beni öyle memnun edersin  You are the wind to me Because you encourage to keep going You are my love to me Because to you I am dear   Sen bana rüzgar gibisin Çünkü beni devam etmeye yüreklendirirsin Sen bana aşk gibisin Çünkü senin için kıymetliyim   You are a tissue to me Because you wipe away my tears You are a teddy to me Because you comfort me like it.   Sen bana mendil gibisin Çünkü göz yaşlarımı silersin Sen bana oyuncak ayı gibisin Çünkü beni onun gibi rahat ettirirsin You are a Blanket to me Because you make me warm You are a song to me Because you bring me joy   Sen bana yorgan gibisin Çünkü beni ısıtırsın Sen bana bir şarkı gibisin Çünkü bana neşe getirirsin   You are the stars to me Because your love cannot be counted You are my heart to me Because you own it all   Sen bana yıldızlar gibisin Çünkü aşkın sayılamaz Sen bana kalbim gibisin Çünkü tamamıyla onun sahibisin.

Thread: T-E

4677.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Apr 2010 Tue 08:43 pm   Quoting Melike1      My try so far.    Bravo. Melike please teach me Turkish. Edited (4/27/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: T-E Short please :)

4678.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Apr 2010 Tue 08:41 pm   Quoting scalpel      Haha! Lemon has such  "side effects" of headache, stomach irritation, anxiety, restlessness, insomnia, muscle pain, flushing of the face, sweating and difficullty conscentrating...She also may cause hallucination    a she? oh my god. i have never seen a racist she.

Thread: T-E Short please :)

4679.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Apr 2010 Tue 07:37 pm   Quoting scalpel       With the term "köylü ağzı",  a rural idiom or expression is indicated, but not dropping letter r from -yor suffix which is totally different subject matter belonging to a spelling problem coming from the Turkish pronunciation of the r sound.   Meanwhile, peasantry is a social class but not a race that it cannot be subject to racism.    Yes i guess you r right. Because of our argument with lemon i see racism everywhere.

Thread: T-E (Tessedkur)

4680.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Apr 2010 Tue 07:32 pm   Quoting bigfish7 Any help translating is appreciated:     Biraz duzelmisti ama 6 ay sonra yine ayni hale geri donmustu. 3 yil evvel ona hayatta bir daha baska birisiyle sevgi iliskisine girmeyecegimi cunku herseyin ilk once iyi olup sonra bozuldugunu ve bu kotu anlarla bocalamaktan cok yoruldugumu soylemistim. Bu dusuncem hic degismedi, cunku it is not worth it.    He had got better but after six months he turned to his oldself. I told him three years before that i would not be in a love affair because everything was first good and then it turned bad and i was tired of being confused with these bad moments. This idea of mine has never changed. Because it is not worth it.

Thread: T to E my attempt :-)

4681.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Apr 2010 Tue 07:27 pm   Quoting Inscrutable Meraklıyım . I am curious. Thank you

Thread: please help me translate this short line

4682.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Apr 2010 Tue 07:26 pm   Quoting bryang Hi forum, help me with this short one please. Thank you: bu son olmayacaksa gelme istemem    If this will be not the last, then don´t come. I don´t want.

Thread: turkish - english plzzzz

4683.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Apr 2010 Tue 07:24 pm   Quoting scalpel Gönül senin elinden şaşırdım nere gidem Ellerde güzel çoktur vermezlerse ben nidem   nere gidem = nereye gideyim = where I shall go / where shall I go?   ben nidem = ben ne edeyim = what I shall do / what shall I do ?    Thank you scalpel i modified it.

Thread: t to e please correctionss

4684.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Apr 2010 Tue 10:09 am   Quoting ally81 What does (dans) etmemize mean?  As a learner, I don´t understand this particular conjugation. Thanks to anyone who can break it down for me   dans et-me-miz-e  To make this sense you should use it with "rağmen" or "karşın"(both of them means inspite of, in despite of)   dans etmemize rağmen: in despite of us dancing   Edited (4/27/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: T to E

4685.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Apr 2010 Tue 10:00 am   Quoting sofiab25 What does this mean: YA BANA İNAT GİTTİKÇE GENÇLEŞİYORSUN.. ALLAH NAZARDAN SAKLASIN.. RAUF İLE PATEN KAYACAĞIM GÜNE ERİŞEBİLECEK MİYİM NE DERSİN? ŞİŞMAN...    You are getting younger just to defy me...May god save you from the evil eye... Will I reach to the day that I skate with Rauf? What do you say? FAT...

Thread: T-E Short please :)

4686.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Apr 2010 Mon 08:58 pm we say such speaking "köylü ağızı(villager dialect)" But i don´t think it is a good definition. It is a little bit contemptuous. Edited (4/27/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Turkey gets first nudist hotel in Marmaris

4687.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Apr 2010 Mon 08:54 pm I want to be a nudist in the future. What should I do? Is there a school for it?

Thread: please translate into english Ege - Can Acısı

4688.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Apr 2010 Mon 07:18 pm   Quoting Karcia510   hello everybody, can someone please translate this song for me? It´s very important ... Thank you Ege - Can Acısı   Ne acılar gelir,ne acılar geçer diye avuttum kendimi Unuturum diye,alışırım diye Sildim aşkın defterini Kırılmadım sana,kızamandım sana Sende haksız değildin. Kandırdım kendimi,bekledim dönmeni Bende asla bitmedin. Heryerde sen,her şeyde sen illede,illede sen  I consoled myself as "what pains come,what pains pass" As "i forget it" as "i get used to it" I erased the notebook of love I was not offended by you, i couldn´t get angry to you You were not also unjust   I deceived myself, i waited you to turn back You have never finished in me In everywhere you, in everything you No matter what, no matter what you.

Thread: t to e please correctionss

4689.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Apr 2010 Mon 07:09 pm   Quoting karinalinares Geçen tatilim  yazın ikibindokuzdaydı. Ben ve arkadaşım Monique   güzel plajlar için gemi gezisiyle Karayiplere gitmeye (better) karar verdik. Orada sadece yedi gün kaldık ama beraber ikimiz de (both of us) oradan çok hoşlandik. Hava çok güzeldi, sabahları çok sıcaktı ama akşamları hava soğuktu. Tanıştığımız insanlar  çok dostcanlısıydı tanıştığımız insanlar. Sabahları plaja gittik, çok iyi yüzememe rağmen, tüplü sualtı dalışına gittim.  Akşamları dans etmemize rağmen gidip dışarıda film seyrettik. Her yaz oraya geri döneceğim. Daha çok yerler görmem lazım.

Thread: turkish - english plzzzz

4690.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Apr 2010 Mon 06:53 pm   Quoting lady in red I am insertiıng my attempt inside your quote.   Some of the words are misspelled and I do not know them, but the genre is familıar.   It IS a poem where the speaker is talkıng to theır own heart as ıf they are a person.   Or Gönül might be a person take your pick. Quoting tatlises911 Hi all , please if someone can help me to translate this into english pls Gönül senin elinden şaşırdım nere gidem Heart, I am confused at your hands, where shall I go? Ellerde güzel çoktur vermezlerse ben nidem There are a lot of beautiful girls at strangers. If Much in hand  cannot be given  If they don´t give what I shall  do? (I don´t know nidem[ne yapayım]) (´vermezlerse´ = ´if they don´t give´ Gel gönül uslan gönül zulmetme bana gönül Come  Heart (uslan?= ´behave´)   don´t bully me Heart Koşa koşa yoruldum gelme peşimden gönül Running running I was/am wounded  tired, coming (or ´don´t come) from behind me Heart. Dağı taşı aşarsın kuşlar gibi uçarsın Mountain Rock like  birds pass over you fly. (You cross over mountain rocks, you fly like the birds) Eski dert kapanmadan yeni deriler(i think "dertler") açarsın From old pain closed/covered new skin passes/grows over. (From old healed wounds you uncover new skin?)    Before the old troubles heal(close), you open new troubles    A few thoughts/additions from me   [This is a poem?????  ]             Edited (4/26/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/27/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/27/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: english to turkish

4691.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Apr 2010 Mon 06:43 pm   Quoting vessper her voice is amazing...but she looks like my nightmare   thank you all for your time    Sesi muhteşem ama kabusum gibi görünüyor.

Thread: english to turkish pls....

4692.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Apr 2010 Mon 06:41 pm   Quoting sofiab25 how do you say:   1. i will never forget you  Seni hiç unutmayacağım. 2. you are the love of my life  Sen hayatımın aşkısın.

Thread: T-E Short please :)

4693.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Apr 2010 Mon 06:40 pm   Quoting Bea Blanchi     Am not sure about it, learner´s translation:   "I will think thoroughly today." (correct)   I was a bit confused with düşünecem, I think it may be düşüneceğim. (correct)   More advanced learners and native speakers should be able to correct my mistakes.

Thread: What are you reading?

4694.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Apr 2010 Mon 06:17 pm Ahmet Mithat Efendi / Çingene (The Gipsy)

Thread: Famous Turks

4695.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Apr 2010 Sun 04:36 pm   Quoting armegon Why do you need to edit your post? At least we were seeing a real face behind the world of dreams.          I edited it because i wrote it with anger. I only want you to show facts kindly. But i don´t know some of you close your eyes to facts. Facts:   1) We must respect every nation. 2) Not all Turks are angels. We make mistakes also and insult other nations. 3)Not all westerners have a Turkophobia. 4) We must value science.   Edited (4/25/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Famous Turks

4696.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Apr 2010 Sun 04:07 pm   Quoting scalpel      Having arguments with those who have no enough knowledge but yet have many empty things to say,  you must be very used to "pathetic comments".  Look at mirror.     Edited (4/25/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/25/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/25/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: t to e short

4697.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Apr 2010 Sun 06:29 am   Quoting burjubr continue to the guest house today?... my try    Sounds correct. The original sentence sounds weird.

Thread: english to turkish, please. Thank you

4698.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Apr 2010 Sun 06:27 am   Quoting smiley I don´t know.  You are having an affair with Arzu, aren´t you?    Bilmiyorum. Arzu ile bir ilişkin var değil mi?

Thread: t to e

4699.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Apr 2010 Sun 06:26 am   Quoting nifrtity      Do Could you tell about your last holiday? Where did you go? (correct) When did  you go and how  many days did you stay? (correct) How did you decide to go there? (correct) my try hope it is  will help you. (This is from company  )

Thread: E-T asap. thanks!

4700.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Apr 2010 Sun 06:22 am   Quoting 12skipafew Thanks in advance to anyone who can help....   "I am not angry with you I am just upset about the whole situation.  It is killing me. I just want you to believe me."  Sana kızgın değilim. Sadece bütün bu durum için üzgünüm. Bu beni öldürüyor. Sadece bana inanmanı istiyorum.

Thread: Famous Turks

4701.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Apr 2010 Sun 06:18 am   Quoting gokuyum     I am a child I want to be always right.                    To spritzer   This is my second last post  I think spritzer is right. By the way don´t force me to write my third last post.

Thread: Famous Turks

4702.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Apr 2010 Sat 11:10 pm   Quoting spritzer Nazim Hikmet - his lead his life with his beliefs whether right or wrong his kept to his own politcal beliefs and was exhiled for this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%A2z%C4%B1m_Hikmet    My favourite is Turan Dursun.He deseves a Nobel Peace Prize.He is not a poet but a hero. Nazım is a great poet but not a hero. Edited (4/24/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Famous Turks

4703.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Apr 2010 Sat 10:30 pm   Quoting spritzer     why continue to add fuel to the fire if lemon feels this way let him he is only one person and everyone adding to this just makes it worse it takes two people to argue a point, idea, theory etc.... and in reality who cares ...........       this is like children in a school yard   I am a child I want to be always right.                    To spritzer   This is my second last post  I think spritzer is right. By the way don´t force me to write my third last post.

Thread: Famous Turks

4704.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Apr 2010 Sat 10:22 pm   Quoting Trudy     Do you know / Have you met 80-90% of the gypsies? Do you know differences in the several groups like Roma and Sinti? How can you tell these horrible things based on a few observations by yourself and the experiences of one friend?   I guess he will say "sixth sense"

Thread: Famous Turks

4705.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Apr 2010 Sat 07:52 pm You can find racist comments about every nation in every time. I read recently Giosophat Barbaro (1413 - 1494)´s book named Anadolu´ya ve İran´a Seyahat ( A trip to Anatolia and Persia). I found a comment of a Tatar about circassians. My ancestors are circassians. The comment made me smile. I am not offended by it. Here is the comment:   "Ne güzel,Çerkesler erkek değil, kadın gibidirler, gelin gidip onları yakalayalım" (How good! Circassians are not like men, they are like women.Let´s go and catch them)   So you see everbody says something about someone in every time. So si++ and armegon please don´t mind stupid comments about Turks and do like me only smile.   Lemon i don´t want to live in a world without science. You say you have bad exprencies about Gypsies. But maybe somewhere someone feels same thing about a person from your country. So he blames all of your people based on a bad exprience. Can you accept it? You say majority of gypsies are that way. With how many gypsies have you met? 10 or 20 or even 100 isn´t enough to make a decision. Because a bad enviroment can effect most of people who live there badly. In another enviroment you can find different people who are from same ethnicity. So don´t judge quickly.     Edited (4/24/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/24/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: only 1 phrase E-T

4706.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Apr 2010 Sat 04:38 pm i modified my translation.

Thread: only 1 phrase E-T

4707.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Apr 2010 Sat 04:36 pm   Quoting Melike1       when this day will come,i wish i could only stop the time and get lost in your hug   I think you misunderstood Gokuyum. You translated: When will that day come...   I think it should be: Bu gün geldiğinde   Something like that...    "Bu gün" sounds like "today" Also we usually use "o gün geldiğinde" So i translated it that way. But thank you for checking me. Have a nice day.

Thread: 2 words en-tr

4708.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Apr 2010 Sat 04:00 pm   Quoting deli      Kadın sezgisi

Thread: only 1 phrase E-T

4709.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Apr 2010 Sat 03:59 pm   Quoting smaragda when this day will come,i wish i could only stop the time and get lost in your hug    O gün geldiğinde,zamanı durdurabilmeyi ve kucaklayışında kaybolmayı diliyorum. Edited (4/24/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Eng->Turk lüften...

4710.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Apr 2010 Sat 03:58 pm   Quoting SwedishGirl I need help again.. I know it´s little bit long, but I really need help.. I hope someone can help me fast. Thank you..     I heard you are okey and that you play fotball every day, and that makes me happy.   İyi olduğunu ve hergün futbol oynadığını duydum ve bu beni mutlu etti.    Do you know that after your last letter I was happy. I had hope again. I was sure we should be together again after this 16 days.   Son mektubundan sonra mutlu olduğumu biliyor musun? Tekrar umutlandım. Bundan 16 gün sonra tekrar birlikte olmamız gerektiği konusunda emindim.    I did go and talk with Kazim for a long time. He say he will pray for us, for that you will be out. But he will not help us.   Gittim ve Kazım´la uzun bir süre konuştum. Dışarıda olman için bize dua edeceğini söylüyor. Ama bize yardım etmeyecek.    He said that he can´t come the 11th of May and tell what you write. He said he did love her and still do, even if they not are together. I think you understand he don´t say same like you about that night..   11 Mayıs´ta gelemeyeceğini söyledi ve senin ne yazdığını anlattı.Birlikte olmasalar bile o onu hala sevdiğini söyledi. Sanırım o gece hakkında seninle aynı şeyi söylemediğini anlamışsındır.   You know I belive in you, for 200% But my hope did die again. What will happend now?   Biliyorsun ki sana %200 güveniyorum. Ama umudum tekrar söndü. Şimdi ne olacak?    I try to find money for your laywer, but noone want to help me. I have to move next week. I don´t have enough to stay here. I will find something cheaper. But I hope you know that I do my best to find money for this.   Avukatın için para bulmaya çalışıyorum ama kimse bana yardım etmek istemiyor. Gelecek hafta taşınmalıyım burada kalacak yeterli param yok. Daha ucuz bir şeyler bulacağım. Umarım para bulmak için elimden gelenin en iyisini yaptığımı biliyorsundur.   You know I do everything for you.   But I´m not strong anymore. I need you so much askim...   I´m so afraid and worried all the time..   When will I be back in your arms?   Biliyorsun ki senin için herşeyi yaparım. Ama artık güçlü değilim. Bunca zaman çok korktum ve üzüldüm. Ne zaman kollarına geri döneceğim?

Thread: Famous Turks

4711.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Apr 2010 Sat 03:46 pm   Quoting catwoman Wow, I think we have to establish a TC Supreme Court!!   Lemon.. you did not just say that gypsies are travellers, you said "they steal, they cheat, they con, not stable, you cant trust them, they are not hygienic, etc etc. and you wonder why the whole world have prejudice against them." I´m sorry that I had to quote this again, but I hope it´s clear now that this is not the same as what armegon said.    I think it is more important one´s mind to be hygienic than one´s body to be hygienic. How can a person insult a nation, curse science and expect us to respect his ideas? I prefer to be killed in front of my computer by an atomic bomb to live in middle ages with racist people who hates science. Science is my soul. I don´t want to live without a soul.

Thread: 3 trk to engl. help pls. THANKS

4712.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Apr 2010 Sat 04:20 am   Quoting altinokz bakmis ole icine duscek ===  He realized he was going to fall in....    Thank you for your correction i will modify it. Have a nice day

Thread: help with this turkish to english phrase

4713.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Apr 2010 Sat 04:19 am   Quoting altinokz I make toy ships from dark dark pages veya I make toy ships from black black pages.  Eger dark dark pages´i kullanirsan o sayfalarda kotumser, karamsar birseyler yazilmis manasina gelir, otekisi sayfanin renginden bahseder    Thank you altinokz for your help. Please try to write in English so others can understand. Have a nice day.

Thread: help with this turkish to english phrase

4714.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Apr 2010 Sat 02:36 am   Quoting bryang Help me with this one please. thank you. bir oyuncak gemi yaparım kara kara sayfalardan I make a  toy ship from black black pages     Edited (4/24/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: E to T (please just correction)

4715.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Apr 2010 Sat 02:28 am   Quoting karinalinares 1- I didn´t notice that they came home - eve geldiklerini fark etmedim   3- I didn´t guess that she would get angry at me - bana kızacağını tahmin etmedim   4- They told us to come to the party before 4 O´clock. - dört saat önce partiye gelmemizi söylediler.   5- I got very happy that I saw you and your wife - seni ve hanımını gördüğüme çok sevindim.   6- Her mother really liked her not spending a lot of money in that store last night.-  Dün gece o mağazada  annesi onun çok para harcamamasına gerçekten sevindi.   7- we told them that we would be able to stay after the meeting. -  toplantıdan sonra  kalabileceğimizi onlara söyledik   8- I couldn´t believe that you could arrive home in ten minutes -  eve on dakika içinde varabildiğine inanamadım.   9- Didn´t you hear his singing this morning - bu sabah şarkı söylemesini duymadın mı ?   10- Mehmet didn´t believe that Emre was going to (would) come to class this Sunday- Mehmet bu pazar  Emre´nin derse geleceğine inanmadı .     I did my best guys !! Please help me to correct those exercises       very good.bravo Edited (4/24/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: T-E translationn!! plsssss!! thxxxx!! :)))

4716.       gokuyum 5050 posts  24 Apr 2010 Sat 02:21 am   Quoting tomac     My try as learner:   bekle beni aşkım Wait for me, my love   bekle beni bir gün o baktığın yoldan sana ellerimde güllerle gülümseyeceğim (not quite literally, but I think it´s something like...) Wait, one day I will be standing on that road you are looking at, smiling to you, with roses in my hands.   senin gülüşünle karanlık ruhumu tekrardan aydınlığa ulaştıracağım.... Wıth your laughter, I will get my soul out of darkness back into the light.  wow perfect.bravo

Thread: Famous Turks

4717.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Apr 2010 Fri 08:21 pm   Quoting lemon     you havent got a clue what you wrote. this will happen, I think soon.    http://orhanabi.net/forum/eserleri-sark-sozleri-f12/batsin-dunya-ingilizce-t1013.html     http://www.izlesene.com/video/muzik-orhan-gencebay-batsin-bu-dunya/218293

Thread: Poem translation Pleaasseeee

4718.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Apr 2010 Fri 07:56 pm   Quoting spritzer I really like this poem by Can Yucel  I translated last year, I might of made a few mistakes so any corrections would be nice to have   El Bunca zaman bana anlatmaya çalıştığını,kendimi bulduğumda anladım    Herkesin mutlu olmak için başka bir yolu varmış, Kendi yolumu çizdiğimde anladım.. Bir tek yaşanarak öğrenilirmiş hayat, okuyarak,dinleyerek değil.. Bildiklerini bana neden anlatmadığını, anladım.. Yüreğinde aşk olmadan geçen her gün kayıpmış, Aşk peşinden neden yalınayak koştuğunu anladım.. Acı doruğa ulaştığında gözyaşı gelmezmiş gözlerden, Neden hiç ağlamadığını anladım.. Ağlayanı güldürebilmek,ağlayanla ağlamaktan daha değerliymiş, Gözyaşımı kahkahaya çevirdiğinde anladım.. Bir insanı herhangi biri kırabilir,ama bir tek en çok sevdiği, acıtabilirmiş, Çok acıttığında anladım.. Fakat,hak edermiş sevilen onun için dökülen her damla gözyaşını, Gözyaşlarıyla birlikte sevinçler terk ettiğinde anladım. I realized only when I found myself what You tried to explain this all to me for a long time Everyone becomes happy in different ways I realized when I had found drawn  my way Only by living life we learn, not through or listening to others   I understand why you did not explain what you knew  Everday that passes without love in your heart is a loss your reasons to me I understood when why I you ran barefoot after love When in the height of pain no tears drop   When in the height of pain no tears drop I understood why you didn´t cry There is more value in knowing how to make one who cries laugh than to cry with them I realized this when you turned my tears into laughter Anybody can know how to break someone but only the person you love can hurt you and I realized it when you hurt me too much But when one you love it is worth every teardrop When you the happiness left with the tears I understood that both the happiness and the tears ............................................................................................................................................................................... Yalan söylememek değil, gerçeği gizlememekmiş marifet, Yüreğini elime koyduğunda anladım..   ´´Sana ihtiyacım var, gel ! ´´ diyebilmekmiş güçlü olmak, Sana ´´git´´ dediğimde anladım.. Git dediklerinde gittiğimde anladım.. Sana sevgim şımarık bir çocukmuş,her düştüğünde zırıl zırıl ağlayan, Büyüyüp bana sımsıkı sarıldığında anladım.. Özür dilemek değil, ´´affet beni´´ diye haykırmak istemekmiş pişman olmak, Gerçekten pişman olduğumda anladım..   Ve gurur, kaybedenlerin, acizlerin maskesiymiş, Sevgi dolu yüreklerin gururu olmazmış, Yüreğimde sevgi bulduğumda anladım.. Ölürcesine isteyen,beklemez,sadece umut edermiş bir gün affedilmeyi, Beni af etmeni ölürcesine istediğimde anladım.. Sevgi emekmiş, Emek ise vazgeçmeyecek kadar, ama özgür bırakacak kadar sevmekmiş...   Can YüceL The real talent is to not to lie, it is to not hide the truth I realized when you placed your heart in my hand Was very hard to become Being strong enough and is to say “come to me I need you I realized it when I told you to go I understood when I was told to go My love for you is like a spoilt child that sobs like a baby when it falls I understood when you grew and clung to me tightly Regret is not apologizing but to want to scream “ forgive me “  I regret the time understood when I regretted   and pride, is a mask for losers and weaknesses Hearts full of love have no pride I realized this when I found love in my heart one who yearns for it desperately, does not wait, only hopes to be forgiven one day I realized when I desperately wanted you to forgive me Love is an effort, the effort is to love in such a way you do not abandon it, but set it free...      Very good and poetic.   Edited (4/23/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Famous Turks

4719.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Apr 2010 Fri 06:36 pm   Quoting spritzer   maybe you should stay off internet and go hide in the mountains it seems you have a great fear of mankind in general  spritzer you are the one.

Thread: What are you reading?

4720.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Apr 2010 Fri 05:15 pm I read these books recently:   1)Giosaphat Barbaro - Anadolu ve İran´a Seyahat   2)Micheal Löwy - Kafka Boyun Eğmeyen Hayalperest   3)Faruk Duman - Piri   4) Henry James - Bly´ın Gizemi (The Turn of The Screw)   5)Faruk Duman - Av Dönüşleri   6)Antonio Lopez Campillo - Hızlandırılmış Ateizm Dersleri   7)Ahmet Cemal - Giderayak

Thread: What are you reading?

4721.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Apr 2010 Fri 05:06 pm   Quoting ptaszek     if i can recommend a read-have you ever read"the painted bird"by Jerzy Kosinski?if not ..rush to the library..    The Painted Bird is wonderful. I like Kosinski and his approach to the dark side of humanity. Edited (4/23/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Who loves Japanese anime series?

4722.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Apr 2010 Fri 05:03 pm   Quoting ptaszek     I do!!!Naruto is my favourite) Dragon Ball as well)))    Wow at last i found one who loves animes. Do you have other favourites ptaszek? And if you want to watch animes online check this wonderful site:  http://www.animeseason.com/   If you wan to read mangas online check this site:  http://mangable.com/   Have a nice day. Edited (4/23/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Poem translation Pleaasseeee

4723.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Apr 2010 Fri 01:39 pm   Quoting Aaminah Hi, can anybody please translate this poem from Turkish into English please? Thanks   Bunca zaman bana anlatmaya çalıştığını,kendimi bulduğumda anladım   I understood what you had tried to tell me all this time when i found myself     Herkesin mutlu olmak için başka bir yolu varmış,   There has been another way of everybody to be happy.    Kendi yolumu çizdiğimde anladım   I understood it when i drew it.    Bir tek yaşanarak öğrenilirmiş hayat, okuyarak,dinleyerek değil   Life can have been learned only by living not by reading, not by listening.   Bildiklerini bana neden anlatmadığını, anladım   I understood why you hadn´t told me what you had known   Yüreğinde aşk olmadan geçen hergün kayıpmış,   Eveyday passing without love in your heart has been a lost.   Aşk peşinden neden yalınayak koştuğunu anladım   I understood why you had been running after love barefoot.   Acı doruğa ulaştığında gözyaşı gelmezmiş gözlerden, Neden hiç ağlamadığını anladım   When the pain reachs to top, no tear has come from eyes. I understood why you hadn´t ever cried.   Ağlayanı güldürebilmek,ağlayanla ağlamaktan daha değerliymiş   To make one who cries laugh has been more valuable than crying with one who cries.    Gözyaşımı kahkaya çevirdiğinde anladım   I understood it when you transformed my tears into laughter.    Bir insanı herhangi biri kırabilir, ama bir tek en çok sevdiği acıtabilirmiş,   Anyone can have broken any person but only the one who he/she loves can have hurted him/her   Çok acıttığında anladım   I understood when you hurted me so much   Fakat,hakedermiş sevilen onun için dökülen her damla gözyaşını, Gözyaşlarıyla birlikte sevinçler terkettiğinde anladım   But the beloved has been worth every drop of tear which had been shed for her/him. I understood it when the joys left with tears    Yalan söylememek değil, gerçeği gizlememekmiş marifet, Yüreğini elime koyduğunda anladım.. Skill hasn´t been to not to tell lie but to not to hide the truth. I understood when you put your hand into my hand. ´´Sana ihtiyacım var, gel ! ´´ diyebilmekmiş güçlü olmak, Sana ´´git´´ dediğimde anladım.. To be able to say "I need you, come!" has been being strong. I understood when i said you "go" Biri sana ´´git´´ dediğinde, ´´kalmak istiyorum´´ diyebilmekmiş sevmek, To be able to say "i want to stay" when someone say you "go" has been loving. Git dediklerinde gittiğimde anladım.. Sana sevgim şımarık bir çocukmuş,her düştüğünde zırıl zırıl ağlayan, Büyüyüp bana sımsıkı sarıldığında anladım.. I understood it when they said go. My love for you has been a spoilt child who wept a flood of tears everytime when he fell. I understood when you hug me very tight.   Özür dilemek değil, ´´affet beni´´ diye haykırmak istemekmiş pişman olmak, Gerçekten pişman olduğumda anladım..   To regret hasn´t been to apolagize but to want to shout as "forgive me". I understood when I really regretted.   Ve gurur, kaybedenlerin,acizlerin maskesiymiş, Sevgi dolu yüreklerin gururu olmazmış, Yüreğimde sevgi bulduğumda anladım.. And pride has been a mask of losers and weaks. The hearts filled with love can´t have pride. I understood it when i found love in my heart. Ölürcesine isteyen,beklemez,sadece umut edermiş bir gün affedilmeyi, Beni afetmeni ölürcesine istediğimde anladım.. One who wants crazily hasn´t waited, he/she has only hoped to be forgiven one day. I understood it when i wanted you to forgive me crazily. Sevgi emekmiş, Emek ise vazgeçmeyecek kadar, ama özgür bırakacak kadar sevmekmiş   Love has been labor. And labor has been to love not enough to give up but enough to let him/her be free.    Many thanks      Please somebody correct me.  Edited (4/23/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/23/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/23/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/23/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Poem translation Pleaasseeee

4724.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Apr 2010 Fri 12:49 pm I wiil translate it today.

Thread: 23 nisan ulusal egemenlik ve çocuk bayramımız kutlu olsun...

4725.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Apr 2010 Fri 12:06 pm   Quoting foka Happy Children Day for everyone, small and big turkish kids  Thank you. I am a big kid.

Thread: translation help please...turkish to english

4726.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Apr 2010 Fri 09:27 am   Quoting blondemelek Hi...Could someone please translate the following to english for me....thanks so much Sorry I´m not sure of the correct way to write using turkish letters ...   yeniyim beni eklermisinis Nereye eklenmek istiyorsun? Yardimci oluyum    I am new. Would you add me? Where do you want to be added? Let me help you. Edited (4/23/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Famous Turks

4727.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Apr 2010 Fri 09:09 am   Quoting scalpel      Have a nice future with your dirty (in every aspect)  nuclear energy And you´d better get ready for even worse bombs than those dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Nothing, even your lovely "physics", is more precious than human life.   (from wikipedia)   Within the first two to four months of the bombings, the acute effects killed 90,000–166,000 people in Hiroshima and 60,000–80,000 in Nagasaki, with roughly half of the deaths in each city occurring on the first day. The Hiroshima prefectural health department estimates that, of the people who died on the day of the explosion, 60% died from flash or flame burns, 30% from falling debris and 10% from other causes. During the following months, large numbers died from the effect of burns, radiation sickness, and other injuries, compounded by illness. A plausible estimate of the total immediate and short term cause of death, 15–20% died from radiation sickness, 20–30% from flash burns, and 50–60% from other injuries, compounded by illness. In both cities, most of the dead were civilians.  So you say we must stop studying physics. I am not defending atom bombs or nuclear energy. I am defending science. We must use science to create a happy future for humanity not to kill people.   Edited (4/23/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/23/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Famous Turks

4728.       gokuyum 5050 posts  23 Apr 2010 Fri 09:05 am   Quoting spritzer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb9RJlHvjXQ i figured this post was diverted and lost long ago lets have a nice moment now  scarry

Thread: Eng to Turk please - thanks in advance

4729.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Apr 2010 Thu 09:28 pm   Quoting Suzie Planning a trip to Mekke sounds fantastic and I think it will be brilliant for both you and your dad.  I really hope you can plan it soon.  I am praying for your dad too.     Mekkeye bir seyehat planlamak kulağa muhteşem geliyor.Bence sen ve baban için harika olacak. Umarım yakın zamanda planlarsınız. Baban için de dua ediyorum.

Thread: Famous Turks

4730.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Apr 2010 Thu 07:20 pm All racists accuse other nations of being evil, barbarian, liar, murderer, thief. They give examples. At the end they say it is best to get rid of them. Some hate Turks, some hate Jews, some hate Americans, some hate Arabs. Every racist has his own arguements. To make their arguements more convincing they generalize a bad image as a nation´s image. You think gypsies are bad, others think Jews are bad, others think Armenians are bad. Jews had a worse image than gypsies in the beginning of 20. century but now they are considered as a modern nation. People respect Jews because of their achievements. Most of nobel winners are Jews. So it proves us insulting a nation with false accusations get us nowhere. We must respect nations and their potentials. Check this: http://www.imninalu.net/famousGypsies.htm    You blame gypsies for stealing and being unhygienic. If i was poor like some gypsies i would steal and be unhygienic too. If i was externalized like them i would be a murderer too. If you want to understand what means being a gypsy you must read this novel: The Painted Bird by Jerzy Kosinski. You can find a free e-book version of it on the net. If you want to discuss this matter further please read it and then we can discuss about it here or privately. Have a nice day   Edited (4/22/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/22/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: A word, thanks :)

4731.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Apr 2010 Thu 03:53 pm   Quoting Sekerleme Yes, so it means the same?    yes

Thread: Famous Turks

4732.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Apr 2010 Thu 03:11 pm Lemon you sound worse than armegon and si++. At least they seem they don´t aprove insulting a nation. You must respect a nation but you are free not to respect a person. Edited (4/22/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: T-E

4733.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Apr 2010 Thu 12:12 pm   Quoting foka INANCI OLAN MEZARDAN, PARASI OLAN PAZARDAN KORKMAZ.   i cant find sense in second part, first is something like belife from garave...im not wrong ...but i dont know.. thank you for help    One who has faith isn´t afraid of grave, one who has money isn´t afraid of bazaar.

Thread: E-T please thank you

4734.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Apr 2010 Thu 03:18 am   Quoting spritzer At times when i want to touch you bazı zamanlar sana dokunmak istediğim zaman   even though i know i can´t yapamayacağımı bilmeme rağmen   I think of you seni dusunuyorum all the times we spent togther birlikte geçirdiğimiz zamanları    it makes me feel like you are right by my side even though i know you are miles away senin sanki hemen yanıbaşımda olduğunu hissettiriyor her ne kadar çok uzakta olduğunu bilsem de.          blech blech blech how do you have love relationship if you can not speak basic language to each other here just keep sending these I love you - Seni seviyorum I love you so much - Seni çok seviyorum I fell in love with you - Sana aşık oldum I want to be with you - Seninle olmak istiyorum I like you very much - Senden çok hoşlanıyorum I love you with all my heart - Seni bütün kalbimle seviyorum Let´s keep our love forever - Aşkımızı sonsuza kadar koruyalım Love overcomes everything - Aşk herşeyin üstesinden gelir Kiss me - op beni I can´t live without your love - senin sevgin olmadan yasayamam Come to me, my love - Sevgilim, bana dön Love in my heart is forever - Sevgim sonsuza kadar sürecek My love gets stronger day by day - Aşkım gün geçtikçe büyüyor I can´t live without your love - Senin sevgin olmadan yaşayamam My heart is full of love - Kalbim aşkla dolu I give you all my love - Tüm sevgimi sana veririm With love - Sevgilerimle All I need is your love - Tek ihtiyacım senin sevgin I will always love you - Seni her zaman seveceğim Our love will last forever - Aşkımız ömür boyu sürecek Would you like to go out with me? - Benimle çıkar mısın? I am missing you very much - Seni çok özlüyorum I want to see you - Seni görmek istiyorum

Thread: question about homework

4735.       gokuyum 5050 posts  22 Apr 2010 Thu 03:06 am   Quoting ally81 Hi I was wondering if someone could take a look at the the homework example below and tell me if it´s correct.  It´s from beginner 4 section 1: Questions in imperatives   Its the consonant harmony that confuses me, I thought when a letter like ´t´ came between 2 vowels it changed to ´d´   9. Demek Türkçe öğrenmek istiyorsun. Sana ............ (öğretmek)? A. öğretmeyin mi? B. öğreteyim mi? C. öğredeyim mi? (Correct answer is öğreteyim mi?) D. öğredesin mi? * This question was answered correctly 32% of the time by our users (not including your current answer).       http://www.turkishlanguage.co.uk/conmut01.htm  Edited (4/22/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: A word, thanks :)

4736.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Apr 2010 Wed 06:53 pm   Quoting Sekerleme What does "Bidenem" mean? Is it a slang for "Bir tanem" or? (Right)

Thread: Famous Turks

4737.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Apr 2010 Wed 03:52 pm   Quoting si++     I tried to make an exception?   Here´s what I said: I try to find any bad words about any nation in Turkish but I cannot find any. Only maybe "gavur" is used in a negative way to refer to non-muslims. Anybody can go ahead and list such words they know in Turkish.   So I invited anybody share what they know like yourselves did.   I said I can´t find any. Unlike yourselves I still think "Ermeni" as a word doesn´t mean an insult. Your perception may be different but I don´t think your likes are majority.    Si++ you seem like a reasonable person. Please don´t be stubborn. Accept the facts. This matter isn´t only about Turks it is about all nations. I believe people doesn´t see their own mistakes. Because they are egoist. We can discuss this matter on another topic.Please don´t close your eyes to the facts.   Edited (4/21/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/21/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/21/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/21/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Famous Turks

4738.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Apr 2010 Wed 01:44 pm   Quoting armegon     Yes thats correct, we dont use "Armenian" as an insult, we use "ermeni dölü" as an insult, but many use word "Turk" as an insult according to si++    Are you joking? "Armenian" word makes "Armenian seed" an insult. We don´t use "döl(seed)" as an insult. Oh my god. I can´t believe you. I will never argue a thing with you. "People see what they want to see". This is my last post about this matter. I proved every word i said. You are bending logic. Have a nice day.

Thread: Famous Turks

4739.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Apr 2010 Wed 01:40 pm   Quoting armegon     No, i just said its valid for many nations...    This proves my theory. "All people has egoist natures" Most of people thinks their nation is the best on the world.

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4740.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Apr 2010 Wed 01:36 pm   Quoting armegon     You should blame yourself as well, you accused si++ not saying the truth, what lie he told here simply? You should point it out. As many said here, Turks are not angels, no exception, so what your point? Its just tried to be proven here, Turks are not much welcomes in many countries because of prejudices and added it is not comparable to any other nation, and thats mostly depends on the opinions of people who are in contact with foreigners, and observations. If you dont believe, go and check some surveys in some foreign universities about "what nation of people do you want to meet?", of course Turks got the less votes because of our bad reputation which is spreaded by some propogands. Go and try to live in abroad, you will realize how is it, if you are a Turk of course...  Si++ says it is not widespread to use "Armenian" as an insult. This is not true. I blame all nations and people. I don´t blame only Turks. But si++ tries to make an exception for Turks. This is not true also. Turks also insult other nations. What don´t you understand?

Thread: Famous Turks

4741.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Apr 2010 Wed 01:32 pm   Quoting armegon     This is valid for many nations, no need to be mentioned especially for Turks, go and say Serb "gypsy", see what response you got...    So you think this makes us or Serbs or others innocent?

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4742.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Apr 2010 Wed 01:20 pm Some Turks use "çingene(gypsy)" word as an insult too. It is accepted saying "çingene" is an insult like saying "nigger". Instead of "çingene" sensible people use "roman" For example some says "Çingeneler gibi kavga ediyorunuz [ You argue like gypsies ] " It is an insult. Don´t you agree?

Thread: Famous Turks

4743.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Apr 2010 Wed 01:04 pm   Quoting si++     Do you think they are in widespread use? As a word, "ermeni", "rum" or "kürt" etc. do not make me think bad things.    Yes, i think so for "Armenian" word. People use "Armenian seed" as an insult. It is widespread. 332.000 results in google prove me. But you see what you want to see. You blame other nations easily. You don´t care if they use "Turk" as an insult widespread or not. I blame all nations and all people. You make an exception for Turks. Why? I like Turks. I feel as one. They saved my ancestors from Russian genocide. I am very grateful. But i should always speak the truth. I advise you to do so. Edited (4/21/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Famous Turks

4744.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Apr 2010 Wed 12:38 pm   Quoting si++     Turks use "Armenian" as an insult. Never heard of it or witnessed something like that.(Ermeni kelimese bende hiç bir kötü anlam çağrıştırmıyor). Some racist people may have used it in your vicinity but I don´t think it´s a widespread use.   No objection for "Kıro" though. But I guess it all happened in last 30 years or something, right? It´s just a result of Turks and Kurds are becoming like enemies (I guess you know why), day by day, it goes...  Check this.    http://www.google.com.tr/search?hl=tr&source=hp&q=ermeni+d%C3%B6l%C3%BC&meta=&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

Thread: Famous Turks

4745.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Apr 2010 Wed 12:08 pm You seem to forget Turks use "Armenian" as an insult. Some says to a person who they hate "Armenian seed" This is a big insult for Turks. Also some Turks say "Kıro"(impolite, ill-mannered, rude) to Kurds. So main point is no nation is better than other. Don´t fool yourselves. All humans have an egoist nature. No exception. Edited (4/21/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/21/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: For a friend EN-TR

4746.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Apr 2010 Wed 11:03 am   Quoting Melike1 Please could someone translate the following letter for a friend of mine. I could do it myself, but its wouldnt be mistakeless and it would cost me many hours of work. Thank you very much in advance for your effort (I´m sorry its this long):   It´s too bad that after 7 years you decide to not want contact anymore. Especially because 5 months later I am coming to Turkey. And now was the time to go for it together. Eventhough I want you to know my feelings have always been sincere.  But trust is the basis of every relationship, something we appearently both don´t have. You don´t believe that for me it isn´t possible to come eventhough I want it myself (you know my explanation). I think you imagine my world to romantic and perfect.    7 yıldan sonra benimle artık görüşmeyi istememeye karar vermen çok kötü. Özellikle çünkü beş ay sonra Türkiye´ye geliyorum. Ve şimdi onun için beraber çabalamanın zamanıydı. Yine de sana karşı olan hislerimin her zaman samimi olduğunu bilmeni isterim. Ama güven her ilişkinin temelidir, görünüşe göre ikimiz de yitirdik güvenimizi. Gelmeyi her ne kadar istesem de (açıklamamı biliyorsun), gelmenin benim için imkansız olduğuna inanmıyorsun. Sanırım benim dünyamı çok romantik ve muhteşem olarak hayal ediyorsun.   It seems no longer valuable that I have always been there for you during the army time as wel as the other 1,5/2 years. Also you seem to have forgotten that you left me on my own las year and that despite of this I have been also there for you. I hope with my whole heart that you will find a women that will value you more than İ did in your eyes. It isn´t of any use to accuse each other off the same things.   Görünüşe göre sen askerdeyken ya da diğer 1,5/2 yıl boyunca hep senin için orada olmamın bir değeri yok artık. Ayrıca geçen yıl beni kendi başıma bıraktığını unutmuş görünüyorsun, buna rağmen ben yine senin için oradaydım. Tüm kalbimle umuyorum ki umarım sana senin gözünde benden daha çok değer verecek bir kadını bulursun. Aynı şeylerle birbirimizi suçlamanın yararı yok.    I hope that you realise this and you have been genuine towards me. I won´t be sorry because to my opinion in this 7 years I have done everything possible to be there for you and show you I loved you. You mustn´t want to forget about the beautifull things in live you must cherish them.   Umarım bunu anlarsın ve bana karşı samimiydin. Üzülmüyeceğim çünkü bana göre bu yedi yıl boyunca senin için orada olmak için imkanı olan her şeyi yaptım ve sana seni sevdiğimi gösterdim. Hayattaki bu güzel şeyleri unutmayı istememelisin onlara değer vermelisin.    In this 7 years we both grew from child to being adult. I am happy that you have always been a part of my life during that time. Eventhough you hurted me much and gave me grief in that time. Above all you give me a feeling of self esteem, thats the most beautiful thing I will carry with me in my life. And I will never regret but I will be thankfull.   Bu yedi yıl boyunca ikimizde çocukluktan yetişkinliğe doğru büyüdük. O zaman boyunca hayatımın bir parçası olmandan dolayı çok mutluyum. Her ne kadar o zaman boyunca beni çok kırdınsa ve bana üzüntü verdinse de. Her şey bir yana bana kendime saygı duyma duygusu verdin ki bu hayatım boyunca yanımda taşıyacağım en güzel şey. Ve asla pişman olmayacağım ama müteşekkür olacağım.   Its ok like this. I hope you´ll find what you are looking for in life. And who knows during that search we might just walk in to each other again. Untill that time I wish you lots of love and happiness. Take care of yourself.   Böylesi iyi. Umarım hayatta aradığın şeyi bulursun. Ve kim bilir belki bu arayış süresince birbirimizn yoluna tekrar çıkarız. O zamana kadar sana sevgi ve mutluluklar. Kendine iyi bak.     (my try) So sad.   Edited (4/21/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: For a friend EN-TR

4747.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Apr 2010 Wed 10:41 am   Quoting Melike1 I tried a part myself. Could someone please correct ?   In this 7 years we both grew from child to being adult. I am happy that you have always been a part of my life during that time. Eventhough you hurted me much and gave me grief. Above all you give me a feeling of self esteem, thats the most beautiful thing I will carry with me in my life. And I will never regret but I will be thankfull.   Bu 7 sene içinde ikimiz de yetişkin olduk. O zaman zarfında hep hayatımın bir parçası olduğuna çok sevindim. Bana acı ve üzüntü verdiğine rağmen. En önemlisi bana öz saygısı verdin, ................ Ve hiç pişman olmayıp sükredeceğim.   Its ok like this. I hope you´ll find what you are looking for in life. And who knows during that search we might just come across again. Untill that time I wish you lots of love and happiness. Take care of yourself.   Böylesi iyidir. Umarım hayatında ne aradığını bulursun. Ve kim bilir o arayış sırısında belki karşılaşırız. O zaman a kadar sana kucak dolusu sevgiler ve mutluluklar dilerim. Kendine iyi bak    I will translate it. Give me 30 minutes

Thread: E - T (poem)

4748.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Apr 2010 Wed 10:39 am   Quoting melek08 Why Marriage? Neden evlilik?    Because to the depths of me, I long to love one person, Çünkü içimin derinliklerinde, bir kişiyi sevmeyi arzu ediyorum. With all my heart, my soul, my mind, my body... Tüm kalbimle, tüm ruhumla, tüm aklımla, tüm vücudumla  Because I need a forever friend to trust with the intimacies of me, Çünkü tüm samimiyetimle güvenebileceğim kalıcı bir dosta ihtiyacım var Who won´t hold them against me, Ki onları bana karşı kullanmayacak Who loves me when I´m unlikable, Ki beni sevimsiz olduğumda da sevecek Who sees the small child in me, and Ki içimdeki küçük çocuğu görecek, ve Who looks for the divine potential of me... İçimdeki ilahi potansiyeli arayacak  Because I need to cuddle in the warmth of the night  Çünkü gecenin sıcaklığında sarılmaya ihtiyacım var With someone who thanks God for me, Birine ki tanrıya benim için teşekkür eden With someone I feel blessed to hold... Birine ki sahip olduğum için kutsanmış hissedeceğim  Because marriage means opportunity Çünkü evlilik demek fırsat demek To grow in love in friendship... Sevgi ve arkadaşlık içinde büyümek demek  Because marriage is a discipline  Çünkü evlilik bir disiplin To be added to a list of achievements... Eklenen başarılar listesine.  Because marriages do not fail, people fail Çünkü evlilikler değil, insanlar başarısız olur When they enter into marriage Bir evliliğe girdiklerinde Expecting another to make them whole... Bekleyerek bir diğerinin onu bir bütün yapmasını  Because, knowing this, Çünkü, bilerek bunu I promise myself to take full responsibility Söz veririm kendime tüm sorumluluğu yükleneceğime For my spiritual, mental and physical wholeness Ruhsal, zihinsel ve fiziksel bütünlüğüm için I create me, I take half of the responsibility for my marriage Yaratırım kendimi, evliliğimin sorumluluğunun yarısını alırım Together we create our marriage... Beraber yaratırız evliliğimizi  Because of this understanding Bu anlayıştan ötürü The possibilities are limitless. Olasılıklar sınırsız.   (My try)   Edited (4/21/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: E - T (poem)

4749.       gokuyum 5050 posts  21 Apr 2010 Wed 10:19 am   Quoting melek08    i will translate it if u want so much. just wait.

Thread: Famous Turks

4750.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Apr 2010 Tue 03:26 pm   Quoting lemon     I do agree with you people will use anything for their evil deeds.   But what I am trying to say Darwin is not just an innocent scientist. His work has influenced many. All school books are darwinised even though its just a theory. school texts offer darwinism as the only fact or even a scientific fact, when it is not. Darwinism brought a huge damage to the society. British colonists (influenced by darwin) considered aborigenes as the last linking race to the homosapiens. In that aspect I agree with Adnan Oktar.      Other theories aren´t scientific. If you think they are scientific, we have a problem. And i don´t think we can solve it. We can´t escape facts or ignore them because they influence people badly. We can´t stop studying physics because physicists invented the atom bomb. We can´t destroy televisions because people watch improper things. People must control themselves if they want not others.

Thread: Famous Turks

4751.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Apr 2010 Tue 03:05 pm   Quoting lemon     You simply dont understand it.   It is a simpleton to say that Darwin hated Turks, whilest his theory on natural selection had influence on those who hated or humiliated other races than white.    I don´t think this is Darwin´s fault. He was just a scientist. People see what they want to see. They read Darwin or Nietzsche and begin to kill people.     Edited (4/20/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Famous Turks

4752.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Apr 2010 Tue 02:28 pm   Quoting catwoman     Please question my views. And of course it is normal that you are angry that I deleted your comment where you used a nasty personal insult. Yes dear, you must grow up if you want to participate in an actual criticism.   So is it correct to say that criticism of Turkey is not allowed? If that is the case then I see why you think that I hate Turkey.. and so on.. but if criticizm is allowed then please explain what I´m doing wrong.  Catwomen you shouldn´t delete her posts. Freedom of speech is more valuable for me than human life itself. She didn´t insult you.

Thread: Famous Turks

4753.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Apr 2010 Tue 12:59 pm Some people thinks Darwin hated Turks. So this proves his theory is wrong. They use this as an argument. What a logic? Edited (4/20/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Short Biographies of Famous Turks

4754.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Apr 2010 Tue 06:47 am Oğuz Atay (1934-1977) was a pioneer of the modern novel in Turkey. His first novel, Tutunamayanlar (The Good for Nothing), appeared 1971-72. Never reprinted in his lifetime and controversial among critics, it has become a best-seller since a new edition came out in 1984. It has been described as “probably the most eminent novel of twentieth-century Turkish literature”: this reference is due to a UNESCO survey, which goes on: “it poses an earnest challenge to even the most skilled translator with its kaleidoscope of colloquialisms and sheer size.” No translation has yet been published in any language. However, Hanneke van der Heijden has announced a Dutch translation by herself and Margreet Dorleijn, scheduled to appear in 2010   He was born October 12, 1934 in İnebolu, a small town (population less than 10,00 in the centre of the Black Sea coast, 590 km from İstanbul. His father was a judge and his mother a schoolteacher, thus both representative of the modernization of Turkey brought about by Atatürk. Although he lived most of his life in big cities this provincial background was important to his work. He was at high school in Ankara until 1951, and after military service enrolled at Istanbul Technical University, where he graduated as a civil engineer in 1957. With a friend he started an enterprise as a building contractor. This failed, leaving him (as such experiences have for other novelists) valuable material for his writing. In 1960 he joined the staff of the İstanbul Academy of Engineering and Architecture, where he worked until his final illness; he was promoted to associate professorship in 1970, for which he presented as his qualification a textbook on surveying, Topoğrafya. His first creative work, Tutunamayanlar, was awarded the prize of Turkish Radio Television Institution, TRT in 1970, before it had been published. He went on to write another novel and a volume of short stories among other works. He died in İstanbul, December 13, 1977, of a brain tumour. He spent much of his last year in London, where he had gone for treatment. He married twice, and left a daughter by his first marriage.   (From wikipedia)     Edited (4/20/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Short Biographies of Famous Turks

4755.       gokuyum 5050 posts  20 Apr 2010 Tue 06:40 am Yusuf Atılgan (27 June 1921, Manisa - 9 October 1989, İstanbul) was a Turkish novelist and dramatist, who is best known for his novels Aylak Adam (The Loiterer) and Anayurt Oteli (Motherland Hotel). Atılgan finished middle school in Manisa, then high school in Balıkesir. He graduated in Turkish language and literature from İstanbul University. He finished his thesis titled Tokatlı Kani: Sanat, şahsiyet ve psikoloji under the eye of Nihat Tarlan. Atılgan then began teaching literature at Maltepe Askeri Lisesi in Akşehir. In 1946, he settled down at a village named Hacırahmanlı near Manisa where he took up writing. His novel Aylak Adam was published in 1959 which dealt with psychological themes such as loneliness and obsession. This was followed in 1973 by Anayurt Oteli. In 1976, he began working in İstanbul as an editor and translator. With his wife Serpil he had a son in 1979 named Mehmet. Atılgan died of a heart attack in 1989 while in the middle of writing a novel titled Canistan (from wikipedia)   Edited (4/20/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/20/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Eng->Turk lüften...

4756.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Apr 2010 Mon 10:46 pm   Quoting SwedishGirl Thank you thank you thank you! You are my saver. I´m so greatful!    You are welcome.  Edited (4/19/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: corrections please

4757.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Apr 2010 Mon 10:01 pm   Quoting spritzer Acıyla terbiye etmek için ruhlarımızı kancalara geçirilmiş bedenlerimizle sallanmaktayken sarkaç misali tavanda, ying ve yeng arasında gelip giderken ve araftaki kısa duraklamlarda nefeslenirken, adını haykırmaktaydı herkes kendi sevdiğinin, kendi tanrısının   to cultivate our souls with pain, while we are swinging with our bodies taken in on hooks  like pendulum on the ceiling , when coming and going between the ying and yang  and when relaxing in the small breaks of purgatory  everybody was shouting out names  who they were loving or their own gods         (My try)

Thread: Eng->Turk lüften...

4758.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Apr 2010 Mon 09:53 pm   Quoting SwedishGirl If someone ca help mem tanslate this I would be so greatful..   Are you okey askim? I didn´t hear anything from you for over one week, and I worry so much.. I don´t know what to do..   İyi misin aşkım? Bir haftadır senden haber alamıyorum, çok endişeleniyorum. Ne yapacağımı bilmiyorum.   They don´t let me visit you, and when we did go last week they did not let SXXXXX visit you neither because he didn´t had paper for that.   Seni ziyaret etmeme izin vermiyorlar. geçen hafta gittiğimiz de S. ´nin de seni ziyaret etmesine izin vermediler çünkü gerekli belgeleri yoktu. What is happening, and what will happend askim? Please tell me you have some good news.. I don´t want to be without you anymore! I don´t even want to be in life if I don´t have you next to me..   Ne oluyor ve ne olacak aşkım? Lütfen bana iyi haberlerin olduğunu söyle. Artık sensiz olmak istemiyorum. Sen yanımda olmadıkça yaşamak bile istemiyorum.   I cry myself to sleep every night because of the pain to be without you and miss you all the time.. When will we be together again?   Sensiz olmanın acısından dolay her gece ağlayarak uyuyorum, seni hep özlüyorum. Ne zaman tekrar birlikte olacağız?    I read som good words today.. "As long as you love you forgive" I hope you know that it´s exaktly like this for me.. Please askim.. Just come back...   Bugün güzel kelimeler okudum. "Sevdiğin sürece, affedersin" Umarım bunun benim için ne anlama geldiğini biliyorsundur. Lütfen aşkım geri dön. Be back with me.. please.. I need you!   I miss you and love you so much.. You are my everything. Never forget that   Bana dön, lütfen. sana ihtiyacım var. Seni çok özlüyorum ve çok seviyorum. Sen benim herşeyimsin. Sakın bunu unutma.    You & Me Together, Forever, Always   Sen& Ben Beraber, Sonsuza dek, Her zaman

Thread: T-E...translation

4759.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Apr 2010 Mon 09:39 pm   Quoting smaragda -Vatani görevini yapanlara bir güzellik yaparız tabiki -eyv.. hacım 27 gün sonra ordayım    We do a favor to those who do military service ofcourse. -Thanks...my friend i will be there 27 days later.

Thread: Sen De Haklısın (You are right, too)

4760.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Apr 2010 Mon 12:53 pm   Quoting catwoman Is this this song? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTXOLOcqln4     Is it your favorite or something famous?    Yes it is. It is not my favourite song but the song and singer Orhan Gencebay is very famous in Turkey. He makes arabesque music. i like folk music.   The best song of Orhan Gencebay is this:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdcFVwQT-QQ    Rock version of it:   http://videoizle.video75.com/SqI2aoiUmIV/gripin-batsin-bu-dunya-hangar/  Edited (4/19/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/19/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: T-E

4761.       gokuyum 5050 posts  19 Apr 2010 Mon 07:45 am   Quoting spritzer 1) Here is Your Life   in your life good with bad beauty with ugly right with wrong truth with lies respect with discord altruist approach with materialist approach wisdom and ignorance generosity with indifference to learn to be human with mercilessness to be sensitive with selfishness   part of it     Edited (4/19/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Famous Turks

4762.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Apr 2010 Sun 11:22 pm   Quoting Trudy     Sounds as a great guy!    I agree.

Thread: T-E translation lutfen :)

4763.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Apr 2010 Sun 02:14 pm   Quoting deli o zaman dinlenmelisin     yada o takdirde kullanmalıyım   yada o halde  o zaman,o takdirde,o halde,öyleyse means nearly same

Thread: T-E translation lutfen :)

4764.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Apr 2010 Sun 01:32 pm   Quoting deli taught me   i feel tired. Edited (4/18/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: T-E Please Help! =/

4765.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Apr 2010 Sun 09:42 am   Quoting hedef      Thank you gokuyum. But could you or anybody else please describe the world düşündükerini?    düşün-dük-ler-i-n-i means those you think/thought.   Edited (4/18/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: T-E Please Help! =/

4766.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Apr 2010 Sun 03:51 am   Quoting sesese Can someone please translate this sentence??   -bugün düsündükerini aklindan çikar      teşekkür ederim!! =)    Put those which you thought today out of your mind.

Thread: T-E translation lutfen :)

4767.       gokuyum 5050 posts  18 Apr 2010 Sun 03:49 am   Quoting smaragda seni bekliyorum Kirlenmis dunya Masum gozlerin var Sen konusmaya basladigin da susturum dunyayi zamani bir sen bir ben kaliriz Sevmeyi bana ogrettigin için......  (the last sentence maybe its not compete, i know, its becauce the message didnt came all :/ )    thx a lot    I am wating for you .The dirty world. You have innocent eyes. When you start to speak, I silence the world, the time. Only you and me remain. Because you teached me how to love........ Edited (4/18/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/18/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: E - T

4768.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Apr 2010 Sat 10:39 pm What does it mean "to bid the time"?

Thread: E - T

4769.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Apr 2010 Sat 10:26 pm   Quoting melek08 I wonder if I dreamed of you- if you would appear? To make my nights full of love, and always hold me near. Merak ediyorum düşleseydim seni Belirir miydin? Gecelerimi aşkla dolu yapmak Ve her zaman beni yanında tutmak için I wonder if I thought of you- if you would feel it in your soul? Like two spirits in the universe, who always seem to know. Merak ediyorum seni düşünseydim Hisseder miydin düşündüğümü ruhunda? Evrende iki ruh gibi ki her zaman bilir görünür.   Even if the stars went black and the sun were to shine no more. They could find their way to each other, no matter how far the shore. Yıldızlar kararsa bile Ve güneş daha parlamayacak olsa Bulabilirlerdi birbirlerine giden yolu ne kadar uzak olursa olsun kıyı   Safely in each other´s arms, to bid the rest of time. Finding Eternal Love so many seek to find. Birbirlerinin kollarında güvenli to bid the rest of time. (bid the time?)  Bulmak sonsuz aşkı Herkesin bulmak için aradığı Caring for each other through the worst of storms. Leaning on the arms of love and never need anymore. Birbirimizle ilgilenmek En kötü fırtınalar boyunca Güvenerek aşkın kollarına Ve başka bir şeye ihtiyaç duymadan   This is how I feel for you, I´ve known it all along. You are my one true love My world.. My heart.. My soul! İşte senin için böyle hissediyorum Onu uzun zamandır biliyordum. Sen benim tek gerçek aşkımsın Benim dünyam...Benim kalbim....Benim ruhumsun  My try

Thread: E - T

4770.       gokuyum 5050 posts  17 Apr 2010 Sat 01:38 am   Quoting melek08 ALWAYS AND FOREVER Herzaman Ve Sonsuza Dek    As I write, I´ll sing this song for the greatest love I´ve ever known. To my heart, you have the only key, I beg of you, never set me free. Yazdığım gibi söyleyeceğim bu şarkıyı Bildiğim en büyük aşk için Tek anahtarı sende olan kalbime Yalvarırım, bırakma hiç beni.   I prayed to God for a love so true now, I, realize He already knew. In time my prayer WAS answered, the most wonderful man HE BLESSED ME WITH YOU. Tanrıya yalvardım gerçek bir aşk için Artık anladım ki o biliyordu Zamanla cevaplandı duam, En muhteşem adamı O Seni benimle kutsadı.   What we share feels so right to say I love you every night. Wonderful moments shared, precious memories, still tell me you care. Paylaştığımız şeyler, öyle doğru hissettiriyor ki her gece seni seviyorum demek Muhteşem anlar paylaşıldı Muhteşem anılar, lütfen hala umrunda olduğumu söyle   I see your shadow, as I lay myself to sleep. Dreams of you, oh so sweet in my heart, I will keep.   Gölgeni görüyorum Uyumak için uzanırken Seninle ilgili düşler, ah çok şeker kalbimde saklayacağım onları. Look into my heart, my life. Tell me, what do you see? can you feel the need, the want, as I to be your wife, you my husband. Kalbimin içine bak, hayatım Anlat bana ne görüyorsun? ihtiyacı hissedebiliyor musun? Karın olmam ve kocam olman isteğini   Much joy and happiness you´ve brought me. If I had life to live again, I´d want to with you, my lover, my best friend. Always and Forever, I´ll love you till the end Bir çok neşe ve mutluluk getirdin bana Tekrar yaşamış olsam, yine olmak isterdim seninle sevgilim, en iyi arkadaşım Her zaman ve sonsuza dek, seni seveceğim sonuna dek.    (My try)

Thread: Poem E - T

4771.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Apr 2010 Fri 10:22 pm   Quoting melek08 Gokuyum thank you so much - you are an angel I wish you a wonderful evening. Thanks for all your effort.   Kendine iyi bak!    Thank you very much. You are welcome.

Thread: Famous Turks

4772.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Apr 2010 Fri 09:23 pm   Quoting armegon I can suggest Muazzez İlmiye Çığ from recent history...    She is the best in Sumerology.   Another historian is İlber Ortaylı.

Thread: Poem E - T

4773.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Apr 2010 Fri 09:17 pm The vows I take will be forever. I´ll love you all my life. There´s no part way, no holding back Once we are man and wife.   Ettiğim yeminler sonsuza dek sürecek Seni tüm hayatım boyunca seveceğim Kısmi bir yol yok, kendini tutmak yok Bir kere karı koca olunca.   The choice is made, and now I swim In a far different sea, The shores of which are bright green hills Raised up for you and me.   Seçim yapıldı ve şimdi yüzüyorum Çok farklı bir denizde ki Kıyıları aydınlık yeşil tepelerdir Kaldırılmış senin ve benim için   Our love is like a mountainside Awash in lovely flowers: It is our home, our solid rock, Where all bright things are ours.   Aşkımız bir dağ yamacı gibi Yıkanmış güzel çiçeklerle O bizim evimiz, sağlam kayamız ki Orada her aydınlık şey bizimdir.   And though of need we often must Spend our days apart, Our love will always be with us, Held within the heart.   İhtiyaç dolayısıyla biz bazen Günlerimizi ayrı geçirmeliyiz. Aşkımız hep yanımızda olacak Kalbimizde barınacak   I feel it now, so strong and free, So part of every breath That it must live--I swear it will!-- Even after death.   Hissediyorum onu şimdi, çok güçlü ve özgür Öyle parçası ki her soluğun Öyleyse yaşamalı o –Yemin ederim yaşayacak- Ölümden sonra bile.

Thread: T to E my attempt :-)

4774.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Apr 2010 Fri 10:44 am   Quoting Inscrutable Tuvalete gitmek istiyorum. I want to go to the toiltet Thank you

Thread: TURKISH NOVELS

4775.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Apr 2010 Fri 07:49 am             One of my favourites :             Yusuf Atılgan / Aylak Adam (The Loiterer)             Her şeye “karşı” duran, “karşı” çıkan, “karşı” olan bir adam…Aylak Adam…. Bir adı bile yok. “C.” diyor Yusuf Atılgan kısaca.           A man who opposes to, objects to, is against to everything….The Loiterer…. He hasn’t got even a name. Yusuf Atılgan calls him C. shortly.             İnsan her şeye bunca “karşı”yken kendine de “karşı” olmadan nasıl sürdürebilir bir “karşı” yaşamı?           When a man is so against to everything, how he can keep a counter life without being against to himself?             C., sıradanlığa, tekdüzeliğe, alışılmışın kolaycılığına hiç mi hiç katlanamıyor. Hem farklıyı, hem doğru olanı arıyor. Çabasının boşuna olduğunun da farkında üstelik.           C. can never bear to monotony, easiness of routine. He searches for also different and also right one. He knows even his effort is in vain.             Zor bir karakter, zor bir yaşam, yalın bir roman.           A difficult character, a difficult life, a plain novel.             (from back cover)             (corrections needed)     Edited (4/16/2010) by gokuyum Edited (5/30/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Quick turkish to english

4776.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Apr 2010 Fri 12:55 am   Quoting bdminnesota gelin görümce dayanışması diyebilir miiz yazışmalar kırılıyor   and as a reply,   Ulan abdi!    Can we say solidarity between bride and husband´s sister. The writings rocks.   Ah you Abdi!

Thread: Turkish to English please..

4777.       gokuyum 5050 posts  16 Apr 2010 Fri 12:40 am   Quoting dilliduduk     I think saying "people" is more appropriate then "humans" here    yes you are right. I will modify it.

Thread: turkish to english please

4778.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Apr 2010 Thu 09:55 pm   Quoting clare105 ben gele bilirsem geleceğim ama o sirada çalışıyorum izin alırsam    If I can come, I will come. But at that time, I work. If I get a permission....

Thread: english to turkish please

4779.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Apr 2010 Thu 09:52 pm   Quoting clare105 I know you wont come.  Dont forget me    Gelmeyeceğini biliyorum. Beni unutma.

Thread: Famous Turks

4780.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Apr 2010 Thu 07:50 pm   Quoting MarioninTurkey   Quoting Bea Blanchi I do not have much knowledge on the subject, but may I suggest Mr. Orhan Pamuk & Tarkan or classical pianist Fazıl Say as additions to the list.     Good ones! for authors I definitely would add Ömer Seyfettin, Yaşar Kemal, Orhan Kemal, Oğuz Atay, Yusuf Atılgan, Reşat Nuri Güntekin,Orhan Pamuk,Poet: Nazım Hikmet, Ahmed Arif,Orhan Veli Kanık,Yahya Kemal Beyatlı, Necip Fazıl Kısakürek Pianists: İdil Biret, Fazıl Say Pop singers - you are right, it needs to be people who are long-lasting. Perhaps Sezen Aksu, Barış Manço, Mustafa Sandal, Eurovision winner Sertab Erener. Also Türk müzik Zeki Müren and Bülent Ersoy. İbrahim Tatlıses. Cem Karaca   In Business: Vehbi Koç, Sakıp Sabancı, Aydın Doğan, Güler Sabancı, Ümit Boyner, Mustafa Koç   In sports: Naim Süleymanoğlu, Hakan Şükür, Hidayet Türkoğlu, Mehmet Okur, Ersan İlyasova, Nihat Kahveci, İlhan Mansız, Arda Turan    Artists: Bedri Baykam, Osman Hamdi Bey, Abidin Dino, Bedri Rahmi Eyüboğlu   Folk Heroes: Köroğlu, Dadaloğlu, Battal Gazi, Oğuz Kağan, Ulubatlı Hasan    Leaders: Atilla, Osman Bey, Fatih Sultan Mehmet, Kültegin, Bilge Kağan, Kanuni Sultan Süleyman, Atatürk     Others?       Edited (4/16/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/16/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/16/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: ne demek

4781.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Apr 2010 Thu 06:49 pm   Quoting deli there is a bike race today and I think he means he is on the road working type of thing.   yoldayım- does this mean im on my way or is it yolumdayım    Yes.   I am working on the road.  Yolda çalışıyorum. I am on the road. Yoldayım.   Then "yolda görevliyim" makes more sense. Edited (4/15/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: ne demek

4782.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Apr 2010 Thu 06:19 pm   Quoting deli like I said then   Im on the road on duty    Doesn´t "i am on the road" mean "i am coming" or "i am going"?

Thread: Turkish to English please..

4783.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Apr 2010 Thu 05:59 pm   Quoting Mackers Can anyone translate this please   Konuşmaya değer olanlarla konuşmazsan,insanları yitirirsin Konuşmaya değer olmayanlarla konuşursan sözcükleri yitirirsin..  If you don´t talk to those who are worth to talk, you lose people. If you talk to those who are not worth to talk, you lose the words.   Edited (4/16/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: small correction

4784.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Apr 2010 Thu 05:55 pm   Quoting akashaqueen I am sweet: ben tatlı (besides this , is there another way to translate this?i hope my question is not to silly   Thanks in advance     I am (very) sweet. Ben (çok) tatlıyım.                             Ben (çok) şekerim.   Use (very). We like exaggerating.

Thread: ne demek

4785.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Apr 2010 Thu 05:52 pm   Quoting gokuyum      I am on duty in the road. (not sure)    Lady in red help please.

Thread: ne demek

4786.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Apr 2010 Thu 05:48 pm   Quoting deli yolda görevdeyim ?    I am on duty in the road. (not sure) Edited (4/15/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: e-t...if someone can be so kind as to afford me their time. thank you

4787.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Apr 2010 Thu 05:47 pm   Quoting deli gokuyum I think you misunderstood when she says   I want to mean something to you, like she wants to know her value to him ,like her importance    Benim için çok şey ifade ediyorsun. You mean a lot for me. (You are too valuable for me)   "ifade etmek" is correct.

Thread: e-t...if someone can be so kind as to afford me their time. thank you

4788.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Apr 2010 Thu 05:16 pm   Quoting Nile69 I know i am not an easy person when it comes to certain things. I just want to be loved the way i love you. I want to feel that i have a connection with you that no one els has. That i mean something to you. I dont know if i am making you happy or if you still feel the same. All i am asking if you dont, then please let me go.   İş bazı konulara geldiğinde kolay bir insan olmadığımı biliyorum. Seni sevdiğim şekilde sevilmek istiyorum. Seninle hiç kimsenin sahip olmadığı bir bağlantım olsun istiyorum. Senin için bir şeyler ifade edeyim istiyorum. Seni mutlu ediyor muyum ya da hala aynı mı hissediyorsun bilmiyorum. Eğer hissetmiyorsan, lütfen gitmeme izin ver. Edited (4/15/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: english to turkish

4789.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Apr 2010 Thu 05:10 pm   Quoting fathi I be very greatfull if someone will take time and help me with translation,many thanks   I have a secret room in my heart. There are a lot of pictures hanging on the wall. The pictures are from a foreign country and show two happy people. They laugh, talk, dance and make love. Every day seems to be joyful. They also have a car. I can hear music in that room. Sometimes I go into that room; I stay there a while and enjoy the memories. I can feel a little sadness. I go out and close the door. I regret nothing. I have a good life. Take care of yourself          Kalbimde gizli bir oda var. Duvar(ın)da bir çok resim asılı. Resimler yabancı bir ülkeden ve iki mutlu insanı gösteriyorlar. Onlar gülüyor, konuşuyor, dans ediyor ve sevişiyorlar. Günler neşeli görünüyor. Ayrıca bir arabaları var. O odada müziği duyabilirim. Bazen o odaya gidiyorum, orada bir süre kalıyorum ve hatıralarımla mutlu oluyorum. Küçük bir burukluk (üzüntü hissedebilirim. Dışarı çıkıyorum ve kapıyı kapıyorum. Hiçbir şeyden pişmanlık duymuyorum. İyi bir hayatım var. Kendine iyi bak. Edited (4/15/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/15/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: ne demek

4790.       gokuyum 5050 posts  15 Apr 2010 Thu 05:02 pm   Quoting deli yolda görevdeyim= im on the road on duty       doğru mu    yoldayım görevde

Thread: 3 trk to engl. help pls. THANKS

4791.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Apr 2010 Wed 11:53 pm   Quoting bryang Thank you in advance: *bakmiş zaten içine düşcek He has realized he was going to fall in him/her/it (means he/she can´t keep his/her eyes away from someone/something.) *Okanın eli nerde öle yaw Where is the Okan´s hand in that manner? (not sure) *Okanin tip prisondaki Bellick e benzio Okan´s type (face) looks like Bellick´s in the Prison Break.      Edited (4/24/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Eng - Turk. Short

4792.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Apr 2010 Wed 11:47 pm   Quoting Yalnizim No, I´m afraid I won´t come to Marmaris this year. Hayır, korkarım ki bu yıl Marmaris´e gelemeyeceğim.  I will start a new job 1st of June, and then I wont get summer holidays, so I can´t come this year. Haziran´ın birinde yeni bir işe başlayacağım bu yüzden yaz tatiline çıkamayacağım.Bu yıl gelemeyeceğim. But I am very good, and hope you all are too! Ben çok iyiyim, umarım hepiniz de iyisinizdir. I miss you all very much, my turkish family! say hi to salak selo , osmancan, fethi, safak, suat and serdar for me. Hepinizi çok özlüyorum, benim Türk ailem. Salak Selo´ya, Osmancan´a, Fethi´ye, Şafak´a, Suat´a ve Serdar´a benden selam söyleyin.  Hope you are all good, and that I will see you next year. Take good care of Sandie while she is there, I know you always do. Umarım hepiniz iyisinizdir, sizi seneye göreceğim. Sandie´ye oradayken iyi bakın.İyi bakacağınızdan eminim.    Pretty please, its kinda urgent. In advance; thank you!!

Thread: Turkish to English please

4793.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Apr 2010 Wed 11:22 pm   Quoting Michaela007 Gokuyum, what does it mean when you add ne yapayim to it?  I think it might be ´what do I do´.  Yes you are right.

Thread: Turkish to English please

4794.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Apr 2010 Wed 10:47 pm   Quoting Michaela007 Hi, can anyone translate this please - bahar gelmis yamacima ben.............   Much appreciated    Spring has come to my side, I ..........

Thread: turkish to english help please, thanks!

4795.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Apr 2010 Wed 10:43 pm   Quoting lessons_in_love bunları uyğulamak zor deyil benim için çok kolay ve aynısını yapıyorum size tavsiye ederim hayat daha kolay olur thanks for your help!    These are not difficult for me to perform, very easy for me and i do the same. I recommend you so life will be more easy.

Thread: Turkish to English

4796.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Apr 2010 Wed 09:22 pm   Quoting lessons_in_love hiç keşke burda olsaydı dediklerim olmadı sahte sevgilere yer hiç olmadı usanmışım nefret etmekten usanmışım özlemi özlemekten şimdi ise bi bakmışım yaşamaktan usanmışım keşke ama keş hiç doğmasaydım   Thanks!  (my try)    I have never said "I wish he/she were here". There was no place for fake loves. I have been bored of hating, of missing longing. Now once I have looked, I have been bored of living. I wish I hadn´t been born. Edited (4/14/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/14/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/14/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/14/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/14/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/14/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/14/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/14/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/14/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: english to turkish please

4797.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Apr 2010 Wed 08:10 pm   Quoting Melike1     Umarım iyisindir ve işin iyi gidiyordur. Seni Mayıs´ta görmeyi hala umut ediyorum. Hep aklımdasın, lütfen gel.    A typo I guess. Your translation is as perfect as usual.  Edited (4/14/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: One word translation

4798.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Apr 2010 Wed 07:58 pm   Quoting bdminnesota what does takmiyor mean? as is kadin gozluk takmiyor? Woman is not wearing glasses?   thanks   Takmak means to attach, fasten, affix, put (something) on; to pin (something) to; to hang (something) on.   And takmak also means  to pick on, single (someone) out for harassment    Check here : http://www.sozluk.net/index.php?word=takmak Edited (4/14/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Turkish to English please and thanks!

4799.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Apr 2010 Wed 07:53 pm   Quoting lady in red     I think you are referring to this thread - nothing wrong with Gokuyum´s translation.  I think the post you quoted is just pointing out that ´kardeş´ (sibling) can also be translated as ´friend´.  As Gokuyum is Turkish with a good knowledge of English I am sure he has the translation correct!    My brother/sister refers to my friend in that thread. If you watch TV series Lost,you can see Desmond says everybody "bro(ther)" (except women) instead of friend. What is the matter i don´t understand?

Thread: E to T any help is much aprreciated

4800.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Apr 2010 Wed 06:32 pm   Quoting cerys123 thank you for contacting me, i am so sad about this news and i send my love and support to you all, he was such a good friend to me and i have many memories how did it happen?  i cant forget him im so sorry to all your family for such a sad thing tto happen, i love him alot and he will always be in my heart i shall pray for you all deepest sympathy  Benimle temasa geçtiğiniz için teşekkür ederim. Bu gelişmeler karşısında çok üzgünüm ve hepinize sevgilerimi ve desteğimi yolluyorum. O benim için çok iyi bir dosttu ve ona ait bir çok hatıralarım var.Nasıl oldu bu? Onu unutamıyorum. Böyle üzücü bir olayın ailenizin başına gelmesinden dolayı çok üzgünüm. Onu çok seviyorum ve o her zaman benim kalbimde olacak. Hepiniz için en içten duygudaşlıkla dua edeceğim.   Edited (4/14/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Sen De Haklısın (You are right, too)

4801.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Apr 2010 Wed 04:12 pm   Quoting lady in red     A couple of corrections from me    Thank you lady in red. I modified it.

Thread: Sen De Haklısın (You are right, too)

4802.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Apr 2010 Wed 04:55 am Thank you my friends for corrections. As the proverb says "Bir elin nesi var iki elin sesi var." I modified it.

Thread: Sen De Haklısın (You are right, too)

4803.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Apr 2010 Wed 01:55 am Sen De Haklısın - Orhan Gencebay You are right too - Orhan Gencebay Haklısın haklı You are right, right Bence sen de haklısın I think you are right too Hak aranır eğer varsa Right is searched for if it exists Aranıp da bulunursa If it is found by searching Kimin hakkı kimde kalır Whose right remains at the others? Eğer razı olunursa If it is consented. Haklısın haklı You are right, right Bence sen de haklısın I think you are right too Herkes ben haklıyım diyor Everyone says I am right Haksız olan kimdir Who is the wrong one? Herkes en çok bana diyor Everyone says mostly "to me" Razı olan kimdir Who is the consenting one? Bu nasıl hak aranışı What kind of search for right is this?  Bu nasıl hak dagılısı What kind of distribution of right is this?  Herkes farklı farklı ister Everyone wants differently Bu nasıl fark yanlısı How is this difference a fault?  Haklısın haklı, bence sen de haklısın You are right, right, I think you are right too Haklıyım haklı, seni sevdigim için I am right, right, because I love you. Bir gönlüm var susmak bilmez I have a heart that doesn´t know how to be quiet Seni gördü laf dinlemez It saw you it doesn´t listen to a word. İster durur seni benden It wants you from me Hiçbir şeye boyun eğmez It doesn´t bow to anything. Haklıyım haklı I am right, right Seni sevdiğim için Because I love you Sana yandiğim için Because I burn for you Beni sevmediysen If you didn´t love me Beni istemediysen If you didn´t want me Sen de haklısın haklı You are right too, right Gönlünü vermediysen If you didn´t give your heart. Zorla güzellik olmaz No good can be achieved by force Zorla dostluk kurulmaz No friend can be made by force İnsan denen bir canız We are a soul called human Zorla haklı olunmaz No right can be proved by force. http://videoizle.video75.com/NqCWwG58zpf/orhan-gencebay-sende-hakl/ Edited (4/14/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/14/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/14/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/14/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/14/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/14/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/14/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/14/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/14/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: T to E my attempt :-)

4804.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Apr 2010 Wed 01:10 am   Quoting dilliduduk     we don´t also use this"okul için uyanmak" commonly in Turkish then, do we?   Bu sabah, tembellikten, okula gitmek için uyanmadım. Bu sabah okula gitmek için uyanmadım çünkü tembelliğim tuttu. Bu sabah okula gitmek için uyanmadım çünkü tembelliğim üzerimdeydi.  I think you are right too like the song says. " Bence sen de haklısın"   http://www.turkishclass.com/turkish/forum/forumTitle_46350_0  Edited (4/14/2010) by gokuyum

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4805.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Apr 2010 Wed 12:32 am   Quoting tomac Combining my poor knowledge of both languages, I can offer this alternative translation   Wishing those who don´t know the value of my presence, to be (being?) troubled by my absence.   or maybe   Wishing those who don´t appreciate my presence, to be (being?) troubled by my absence.   As always, not sure if it is correct    Thank you tomac. But wish is a noun not a verb in the Turkish sentence. Yours doesn´t seem literal but makes sence. Have a nice day. Edited (4/14/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: please

4806.       gokuyum 5050 posts  14 Apr 2010 Wed 12:28 am   Quoting deli opmek anlamindanı.susmak anlamındamı     anlam;ingilzce  karsiti ne diye sordum. sessiz    Does it mean to kiss or to be quite.   The meaning;i asked  what was the equivalent of it in English. Without a sound ? [I think he/she asks the meaning of "sessiz olmak" in English(to be quiet) ] Edited (4/14/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/14/2010) by gokuyum

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4807.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Apr 2010 Tue 10:57 pm   Quoting karinalinares for me too thankss    You should ask lady in red.

Thread: t to e short

4808.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Apr 2010 Tue 10:50 pm   Quoting karinalinares Varlığımın kıymetini bilmeyenlere yokluğumun koyması dileğiyle          "Koymak" is slang in this context. It means here something like that "dert olmak" or "ağır gelmek"   With the wish that becoming a worry of my absence for people who doesn´t know (realize) my presence´s value.   (not sure) it is hard to translate for me. Edited (4/13/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/14/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: sorry I am being horrid, would some one sort out this for me: as usual have done most just neeed con

4809.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Apr 2010 Tue 10:43 pm   Quoting lady in red     Well - they say Turkish is a constantly developing language!! (please amil me if you agree )    I think he knows how to write "mail". But i think he thouched "a" instead of "m" absently. So he created a new word "amil". I think amil can be used instead of e-mail in Turkish. But amil seems like an Arabic word. And it doesn´t fit to major vowel harmony.

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4810.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Apr 2010 Tue 10:24 pm   Quoting lady in red     - so THAT´s what ´amil´ was!!  I found ´amil´ to mean ´reason/cause´ but couldn´t see how it fitted so I left it out!! .  Your´s is very good - I went with the original ´no punctuation all one long sentence´ version    Because of it and others i said "it is like a new language (made of Turkish and English)" There is not such a thing amil in Turkish. It is e-mail or e-posta. One can maybe write it like imeyil as he/she pronounces it. But amil is a new creation. Edited (4/13/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/13/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/13/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: sorry I am being horrid, would some one sort out this for me: as usual have done most just neeed con

4811.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Apr 2010 Tue 10:10 pm   Quoting Jae merhaba  balım  seniy  hiç  bir zaaman  unutamayacağımı  bilirsin  sen  benim  biriciyimsin  tatlım    1  haftadır  amil  veya  mesaj  senden  beliyorum  balım   seniy  unutamam  sen  benim  canımsın  lütfen  bunu  böyle  bil  aşkım   beniy  ara  pllis aşkım seniy  çok  çok seviyorum  sen  benim  kalbimdesin   gülüm ı  m  miss  you  much  kiss  you  my hony xxx  my  hard  yours    xxxxxxx    This is like a new language.   Hello my honey, You know I will never forget you.You are my one my sweety. I have been waiting an e-mail or a mesage for a week from you my honey.I can´t forget you, you are my soul. Please know this as such my love.Please call me my love. I love you very very much. You are in my heart my rose. I miss you so much and i kiss you my honey. My heart is yours. Edited (4/13/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/13/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/13/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: help with this one pls, trk to engl.

4812.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Apr 2010 Tue 09:19 pm   Quoting bryang   ya bırak allah aşkına utanamdan birde kıyaslıyorsun mustang la kendi arabanı şaka gibisin resmen.    Oh please let it go for God´s sake. You even compare your car with a Mustang without shame. You are clearly like a joke .

Thread: E-T pls if someone can be so kind to help...thank you

4813.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Apr 2010 Tue 09:06 pm   Quoting Nile69 You dont seem to trust me and i dont think that you will ever trust me. Maybe you should rather be with someone you can trust.    Bana güveniyor gibi gözükmüyorsun ve ben bana hiçbir zaman güvenmeyeceğini düşünüyorum. Belki de sen güvenebileceğin biriyle birlikte olmalısın.

Thread: Ozan Değilsin

4814.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Apr 2010 Tue 09:05 pm   Quoting vuslati Ozan Değilsin You are not a poet.  Bir sosyal yaraya kalem oynatıp,  Anamazsan ey dost ozan değilsin. If you can´t mention a social problem   by writing it, o friend, you are not a poet. Yanlışı doğuran haksıza çatıp, Kınamazsan ey dost ozan değilsin. If you don´t condemn the unjust that gives birth to fault by being up against it, o friend, you are not a poet.   Başparmağa geçen yüzüğün kaşı,  The collet of the ring which passes through the thumb. Sistemin çarkında değirmen taşı, The grindstone in the wheel of the system Öğütüp giderken vay garip başı,  While it is grinding the poor head Kanamazsan ey dost ozan değilsin. If you don´t bleed,o friend, you are not a poet. Sılayı gurbeti gezsen Fizan’ı, If you wander home, foreign placeses and Fizan Halkın dili olur halkın ozanı, The poet of folk becomes the tongue of folk Sevgiyle kaynatıp kara kazanı, Sunamazsan ey dost ozan değilsin. If you don´t offer the black caldron by boiling it by love, o friend, you are not a poet. Gelsen elli altmış doksan yaşına, If you become fifty, sixty or ninety years old Kor olup düşmezsen kara kışına, If you don´t fall into your black winter by becoming a ember Fakir sofrasında bulgur aşına, Banamazsan ey dost ozan değilsin.  If you can´t dip into bulgur meal, O friend, you are not a poet. Dadaloğlu vardı ferman dinlemez,  There was Dadaloğlu who didn´t listen firman Koç Köroğlu dersen boşa ünlemez, If you mention Köroğlu he doesn´t call loudly in vain. Eğer Pir Sultan’ca sazın inlemez, If your saz doesn´t moan like Pir Sultan(´s) Yanamazsan ey dost ozan değilsin. If you can´t burn, o friend, you are not a poet.  Bir Karacaoğlan bir Yunus Emre, A Karacaoğlan, a Yunus Emre Ne sevdalar sığmış nice can ömre, What loves, many souls have fitted into life Vuslatî der güle düşerken cemre, Konamazsan ey dost ozan değilsin.   Vuslati says if you can´t alight While the live ember is falling to the rose, o friend, you are not a poet Osman Öcal   My try. (corrections needed)   Edited (4/13/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/13/2010) by gokuyum

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4815.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Apr 2010 Tue 06:11 pm I think the best Turkish translation for "I feel lazy today" is " bugün tembelliğim üzerimde"   I agree.

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4816.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Apr 2010 Tue 05:39 pm   Quoting scalpel        Maybe "tembelliğim tuttu" can correspond to "I was feeling lazy".   Bu sabah tembelliğim tuttu okula gitmek için kalkmadım.   I don´t know.Just a suggestion.      It doesn´t sound right to me "Bugün (kendimi) tembel hissediyorum. [ I feel lazy today.] I have never said a sentence like this in my life. Maybe some people says so, i don´t know. We say "canım bugün hiçbir şey yapmak istemiyor" [ My heart (soul) doesn´t want to do anything today]instead of "i feel lazy"

Thread: T to E my attempt :-)

4817.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Apr 2010 Tue 05:28 pm   Quoting zeytinne And how do you say "dont be lazy"? Yorgun olma ?    You haven´t understood my post. I said there was not such a thing "tembel hissetmek" not "tembel". Even we can say "I feel lazy because I get low grades". But "feeling lazy" in this context isn´t same with the "feeling lazy" in Polyglot´s sentence. Context is really important. Have a nice day. Edited (4/13/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/13/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/13/2010) by gokuyum

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4818.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Apr 2010 Tue 05:09 pm   Quoting Polyglot Bu sabah okul için uyanmadım için okul çünkü kendimi tembel hissediyordum tembel.   I didn´t wake up for class this morning because I was felleing lazy. Thank you    We don´t use "tembel hissetmek" in Turkish. We say "yorgun hissediyorum [ I feel tired ] even if we don´t and feel lazy. We always use excuses.

Thread: please

4819.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Apr 2010 Tue 04:25 pm   Quoting deli what doooooooooooo you mean gokuyum    Don´t be afraid I generally say you are welcome.  Edited (4/13/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/13/2010) by gokuyum

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4820.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Apr 2010 Tue 04:26 am   Quoting deli ok ok I get it    Don´t be hasty. By saying "it is our duty", one can really mean it. And he can follow you for a life time to help you even if you don´t want.It is not impossible in Turkey.  Edited (4/13/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: turkish - english plzzz

4821.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Apr 2010 Tue 04:18 am   Quoting zeytinne      Does it make sense ? With paper clip ?     Is it a joke? Edited (4/13/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/13/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: TURKISH NOVELS

4822.       gokuyum 5050 posts  13 Apr 2010 Tue 03:58 am   Quoting scalpel      In my opinion Pamuk´s best works are Cevdet Bey ve Oğulları (Cevdet Bey and His Sons) [1983 Orhan Kemal Novel Prize (Turkey)], and Sessiz Ev (The House of Silence) [1984 Madarali Novel Prize (Turkey)] which are two of his first three novels. Benim Adım Kırmızı is one of two books that I was not able to finish, even if he says it´s his most colorful and optimistic novel. The other was an Ahmet Altan novel but I can´t remember its name.  Benim Adım Kırmızı is a some kind of detective story occurs in the past. It is very fluent and easy to understand. I don´t understand how you couldn´t finish it. I wasn´t also able to finish the only book i read written by Ahmet Altan : Kristal Denizaltı. It bored me so much even i couldn´t describe it to you. But some believes he is the author who understands a woman´s soul most in Turkish literature. So this means i don´t know anything about a woman soul. And i gladly accept it and i don´t want to know such a soul which Ahmet Altan describes so boringly. Maybe the soul itself is boring.    Edited (4/13/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/14/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Eng to Turk - thanks

4823.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Apr 2010 Mon 09:45 pm Thank you dillidüdük

Thread: Eng to Turk - thanks

4824.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Apr 2010 Mon 09:45 pm Thank you dillidüdük

Thread: please

4825.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Apr 2010 Mon 09:43 pm   Quoting deli görevimiz. güllerin görüntüsü renklimi = is the image of the roses coloured? (correct)       görevimiz? its not, its our duty, but has another meaning apparently "It is our duty" is the more polite way of saying welcome)

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4826.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Apr 2010 Mon 09:37 pm few separate lines: 1- otursana sende geldin bile kafam dalgin farklna bile varmadım valla Please sit down.Even you have also come. I have lost in tought. I wouldnt even notice .be aware whether you came im absentminded./lost in thought? 2-bebeğimmm what this mm stands for I think its just exaggeration my baby. + 3-bitanesin sen it means you are the one and only sort of thing + could you explain what the person really means while saying that 4-sevindim girmeseydin not sure ,something like im glad happy if you didnt come i wish you hadn´t entered. 5-gelirsen haberim olur geldiğinde misafirim ol ok If you come let me know i will know be my guest when you come 6-türkiye süper ya oh super Turkiye or oh Turkiye, super + the meaning of often used "ya" just showing emotion 7-neler yapiyorsun what are you up to //doing + why ´neler´? neler ,for plural what things are you doing 8-senin celme taktığı n yerden başılıyorum hayata,varsın yara bere icinde olsun dizlerim,yüregim kadar acımaz nasil olsa I am starting life where you tripped me, it is ok if my knees are in cuts and bruises, it doesn´t hurt as much as my heart. Thanks a lot

Thread: Eng to Turk - thanks

4827.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Apr 2010 Mon 09:23 pm   Quoting Suzie My dad wants to thank you for the golf shirt.  He loves it and said it was really kind of you to think of him.    Babam golf gömleği için sana teşekkür etmek istiyor. Gömleği beğeniyor ve onu düşünmenin büyük bir incelik olduğunu söyledi. Edited (4/12/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: turkish - english plzzz

4828.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Apr 2010 Mon 02:51 pm   Quoting Melike1 No it doens´t, it didnt mean the translation has to be ´in a paper clip´. I ment to say ataşta is also Azerbaijani Turkish, the ´normal´ turkish word would be ateşte. So here it both means ´in the fire´. But if you would read only ataşta while thinking its being turkish you would think it means ´in a paperclip´. Gokuyum wrote: bir ataşta oyadıram oyanmaz ( Tr: uyandıram uyanmaz) as if only the last 2 words were different in real turkish but he should have written: bir ataşta oyadıram oyanmaz ( Tr: bir ateşte uyandıram uyanmaz)   Hope you understand what I was trying to say.    Thank you Melike for your explanations. I modified it.

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4829.       gokuyum 5050 posts  12 Apr 2010 Mon 04:24 am Yusuf Atılgan / Anayurt Oteli (The Homeland Hotel)   Yusuf Atılgan (27 June 1921, Manisa - 9 October 1989, İstanbul) was a Turkish novelist and dramatist, who is best known for his novels Aylak Adam (The Loiterer) and Anayurt Oteli (Motherland Hotel). Atılgan finished middle school in Manisa, then high school in Balıkesir. He graduated in Turkish language and literature from İstanbul University. He finished his thesis titled Tokatlı Kani: Sanat, şahsiyet ve psikoloji under the eye of Nihat Tarlan. Atılgan then began teaching literature at Maltepe Askeri Lisesi in Akşehir. In 1946, he settled down at a village named Hacırahmanlı near Manisa where he took up writing. His novel Aylak Adam was published in 1959 which dealt with psychological themes such as loneliness and obsession. This was followed in 1973 by Anayurt Oteli. In 1976, he began working in İstanbul as an editor and translator. With his wife Serpil he had a son in 1979 named Mehmet. Atılgan died of a heart attack in 1989 while in the middle of writing a novel titled Canistan   (From Wikipedia)   "Ne ölü, ne sağ" bir yaşamın kahramanı Zebercet. Zebercet the hero of a life which is neither dead nor alive.  Gözünü ilk açtığı ve yaşadığı Anayurt Oteli´yle aynı kaderi paylaşıyor: He has shared same faith with The Homeland Hotel which he has first opened his eyes and has lived in it. Birbirine benzeyen geçici ilişkilerle geçen günler, yalnız ve tek başına sürüklenen bir hayat. The days passing with similar temporary relations, a life which has been dragged isolated and alone.    Gecikmeli Ankara treniyle gelen - adını bile bilmediğimiz- kadın, otelde bir gece kalır ve Zebercet´in de, Anayurt Oteli´nin de sessiz akıp giden günlerinin içeriği değişir. The women - even we don´t know her name- who had come with an delayed train,stayed in the hotel for one night and then the content of the days of Zebercet and The Homeland Hotel which passing silently has changed.   Küçük ayrıntıların tekdüze şaşmazlığında neredeyse takıntılarla sürüklenen bir yaşamın öfkesi de, çaresizliği de büyük oluyor. In the infallibility of the small details, the anger and the despair of a life which has been almost dragged with obsessions becomes great.   Türk edebiyatının unutulmaz bir tipi ve unutulmaz bir mekanı. An unforgettable character and a unforgattable place of Turkish Literature.   (from back cover)    (corrections needed)  Edited (4/12/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/12/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/12/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: turkish - english plzzz

4830.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Apr 2010 Sun 10:46 pm   Quoting hedef      sağol gokuyum    You are welcome.

Thread: turkish - english plzzz

4831.       gokuyum 5050 posts  11 Apr 2010 Sun 10:33 pm   Quoting tatlises911 Hi all , pls can u translate this for me :- ikimiz bir ataşta oyadıram oyanmaz ( Tr: ateşte uyandıram[uyandırırım] uyanmaz) ikimiz bir ataşta ben yanaram[yanarım] o yanmaz    Both of us in a fire, I (try to) wake him/her up, he/she doesn´t wake up. Both of us in a fire, I burn, he/she doesn´t burn.   (My try)    I guess it is written in Azerbaijani Turkish.   Edited (4/11/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/11/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/11/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/11/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/11/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/11/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/12/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/12/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/12/2010) by gokuyum

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4832.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Apr 2010 Sat 07:37 pm   Quoting Polyglot Annem erken ayrılmalıydı. (veya gitmeliydi)   My mother must have left (or gone) early. Thank youuuuuuuuuu     "Çekilmek" doesn´t make sense but "ayrılmak" does.    Annem erken  ayrılmalıydı. My mother should have left (or gone) early   My mother must have left (or gone) early Annem erken ayrılmış olmalı.    Edited (4/10/2010) by gokuyum

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4833.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Apr 2010 Sat 07:32 pm   Quoting Melike1 I suppose that would be correct Gokuyum    Thanks Melike.

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4834.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Apr 2010 Sat 07:24 pm Annem ayrılmış olmalı. (a guess) My mother must have left.   Annem ayrılmalıydı. (expectation or advice) My mother should have left.   Are these translations correct?

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4835.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Apr 2010 Sat 07:20 pm   Quoting lady in red     Well - it´s a guess or an assumption - so I guess the first one is correct! (although I still don´t see why ´ayrılmak´ rather than ´çıkmak/gitmek´    çıkmak/gitmek is also ok.

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4836.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Apr 2010 Sat 07:11 pm Annem ayrılmış olmalı. (a guess) Annem ayrılmalıydı. (expectation or advice)   So please enlighten me how you can translate these sentences to English. These translations will also answer your questions. Edited (4/10/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/10/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/10/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: turkish to english pllease!! a couple sentence

4837.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Apr 2010 Sat 05:55 pm   Quote:    oglum ibne sende mecburmu asik olacan . bellliki sen bulamiyacan bekle o seni bulsun -;d It is certain you won´t be able to find. (Just) wait and let him/her find you. sen simdi ne edecen bu kiz islerini oglum bir insan surekli sorunlu olamaz One cannot continuously have problems. sende gule gule berhudar ol evladim Good bye to you too, God bless you, my child. The rest is correct.   Edited (4/10/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: turkish to english pllease!! a couple sentence

4838.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Apr 2010 Sat 05:53 pm   Quoting chilip Oğlum ibnelik sen de mecbur mu aşık olacaksın. Bellli ki sen bulamayacaksın, bekle o seni bulsun. -;d  (My) boy the fault is yours. Are you obliged to love? Apparently you will not able to find, wait let her find you.   Sen şimdi ne edeceksin bu kız işlerini oğlum?  What will you do now with these girl businesses? (slang)    Is this language really Turkish?    Edited (4/10/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/10/2010) by gokuyum

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4839.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Apr 2010 Sat 04:23 pm   Quoting harp00n      Namaz vakti (geldi), gitmem gerek. (gitmem lazım / gitmeliyim).   A small correction for learners. Edited (4/10/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: T-E translation... thx

4840.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Apr 2010 Sat 03:29 pm   Quoting smaragda bi bakmışım varmışım bi bakmşım yokmuşum varlıkla yokluk arasında kısır döngünün içinde kayboldum sesimi duyan varsa ses versin      and   what means ulan? i saw somewhere seviyorum ulannn  what means that?    Once I have looked I have existed,once I have looked I haven´t. I have been lost in a vicious circle between existance and nonexistance. If somebody hear my voice, let him/her sounds (answers).   Ulan is a slang word. I don´t recommend you to use it. You can find yourself in trouble. It can mean a lot of things according to where you use it.   Seviyorum ulan I love, goddamned. Edited (4/10/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/10/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/10/2010) by gokuyum

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4841.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Apr 2010 Sat 03:12 pm   Quoting Polyglot Annem erken çekilmeliydi (veya gitmeliydi)   My mother must have left (or gone) early. Thank youuuuuuuuuu        My mother should have withdrew early.   Çekilmek means to withdraw, draw back, recede. Ayrılmak means to leave.   My mother should have left early.

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4842.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Apr 2010 Sat 03:03 pm   Quoting zeytinne      ... not that you mean it....    If I say it to anyone, I mean it. But most of us don´t. And we like exaggerating. If you say you are beautiful, it means like you are not but i am saying it because of politness. You should say you are very beautiful. By saying that either you lie for your purpose or you really believe it.

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4843.       gokuyum 5050 posts  10 Apr 2010 Sat 12:16 am   Quoting bllo how do you say you are beautiful ? >_<    You are (very) beautiful-- Sen (çok) güzelsin.   We generally say "You are very beautiful." Edited (4/10/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Would some one be kind enough to translate for me: Get the jist just need clarification

4844.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Apr 2010 Fri 11:05 pm   Quoting Jae merhaba  aşkım   nasılsın   ı  hoppe  you  ok  my  hony    her  zaaman  seniy   döşünüyorum  bitanem  *  lütfen  benimle  kontakta  ol    canım  seniy çok  çok  özlüyorum  ve  seviyorum  her  geçe  ruyamdasın  balım  çok  öpüyorum  my  hard  and  my  love sevgilerim  le hony Quote: Add quoted text here    Hi my love. How are you? I hope you are ok my honey. I always think of you my dear. Please be in touch with me. I miss you so much my heart and i love you. You are in my dreams every night (my) honey. I kiss you my heart and my love. Affectionately yours, honey. Edited (4/9/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/10/2010) by gokuyum

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4845.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Apr 2010 Fri 03:50 pm   Quoting chilip -aynen valla ama oglum bazende sanslari kendin yaratacan   -ee sen varsin ya   -oglum resimlere bakinca hepsi berdosh  My try    Yes, exactly (my) boy. Sometimes you should create chances by yourself   -ee you are here (for me)   - (my) boy when i look at the pictures, all i see is tramps.

Thread: Yürü bre Hızır Paşa (Walk out bre Hızır Pasha)

4846.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Apr 2010 Fri 03:30 pm Yürü Bre Hızır Paşa Walk out, bre Hızır Pasha Yürü bre Hızır Paşa Walk out, bre Hızır Pasha Senin de çarkın kırılır (One day) Your wheel also breaks (an idiom) Güvendiğin padişahın The Sultan who you trust  O da bir gün devrilir One day he is also dethroned Nemrut gibi Anka n´oldu What happened to phoenix which is like Nimrod? (1) Bir sinek havale oldu A fly pestered him Davamız mahşere kaldı Our trial remained to Armageddon Yarın bu senden sorulur Tomorrow you will be asked to account for this Şah´ı sevmek suç mu bana Is it guilt for me to love Shah (2) Kem bildirdin beni Han´a You informed Khan about me badly Can için yalvarmam sana I don´t beg to you for my life. Şehinşah bana darılır.  (If i do so) Shah of shahs (2) is ofended by me Hafid-i Pelgamber´im has I´m the real grandson of the Prophet. Gel Yezid Hüseyn´imi  kes Come Yezid(3) cut my Hüseyin(4) Mansur´um  beni dara as I am Mansur(5), hang me to a tree Ben ölünce il durulur When i die, country calms down. Ben Musa´yım sen Firavun I am Moses, you are Pharaoh İkrarsız Şeytan-ı lain Hesitant cursed devil Üçüncü ölmem bu hain This is my third dying you traitor Pir Sultan(6) ölür, dirilir Pir Sultan dies, revives.    (Please correct me. I translated idioms literally)   Notes:   1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimrod  2) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ismail_I  3) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yazid_I 4) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Husayn_ibn_Ali  5) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mansur_Al-Hallaj  6) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pir_Sultan_Abdal

Thread: Eng to Turk please - thanks in advance

4847.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Apr 2010 Fri 01:18 pm   Quoting Suzie Please can you pass the message below to [    ]    Lütfen mesajı aşağıya [  ]  geçer (or geçirir) misin?

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4848.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Apr 2010 Fri 01:18 am   Quoting Sekerleme Aha, New thing to learn =)    Where did Mehmet disappear?  Yours is better. Edited (4/9/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Eng->Tr

4849.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Apr 2010 Fri 01:06 am   Quoting Sekerleme Çok teşekkür ederim düzeltmen için!    You are welcome.

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4850.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Apr 2010 Fri 12:53 am   Quoting hedef      çok çok teşekurler gokuyum. sağol    You are welcome.

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4851.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Apr 2010 Fri 12:52 am   Quoting Sekerleme İt means:   Where did Mehmet disappear?   or maybe it means:   Where did Mehmet take his road/way. (Where did he go?)   You can say:   *Mehmet nereye gitti? (Where did Mehmet go?)    It means something like that "Where the hell did Mehmet go?"

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4852.       gokuyum 5050 posts  09 Apr 2010 Fri 12:49 am   Quoting Sekerleme      My try, please correct me:   -Sen beni böyle mi tehdit ediyorsun?, artık seni hiç anlamıyorum. Neden bana hep suçu hep bana atıyorsun, ve bana kızıyorsun bana? Sen bana hep diyorsun ki, ben seni kızdırıyorum. Seni güzel sözlerle şaka yapıyorken kızdırdığımı söylemek helal mı senin için, ve beni üzdüğünü, seni kaybetmekten korktuğumu söylemek haram mı benim için?.. Seninle bu 6 ay, boş yere mi geçti, arkadaşım?  Wow. Your Turkish is very good. bravo.   Edited (4/9/2010) by gokuyum

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4853.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2010 Thu 10:34 pm   Quoting Melike1      Maybe you won´t believe it but thats really ecaxtly how İ first translated it, then İ corrected myself  It would have been all correct yani. I thought maybe it would be better with rağmen, don´t ask me why. Thanks for your help and advice !    You are welcome.

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4854.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2010 Thu 10:24 pm Bana ne kadar çok zarar verdiğin gördüğüne rağmen yinede devam ediyorsun. Bana ne kadar çok zarar verdiğini gördüğün halde yine de devam ediyorsun.    You can also translate like this.

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4855.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2010 Thu 10:18 pm   Quoting Melike1     My try:   Seninle konuşmaya çalışmak faydasızdır... anlamıyor gibi görünüyorsun yada anlamak istemiyorsun. Bana ne kadar çok zarar verdiğini görmene rağmen yine de devam ediyorsun.    Wow. bravo. Edited (4/8/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/8/2010) by gokuyum

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4856.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2010 Thu 10:05 pm Thanks

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4857.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2010 Thu 10:01 pm   Quoting Trudy     Unfortunately for you this friend is male, otherwise I would have asked him if these poems could be sent to you....    A Poem is a poem. No matter from who it comes.

Thread: english to turkish pleaseeee

4858.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2010 Thu 09:56 pm No problem Melike. We really need to know what he meant. But a question mark could be helpful

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4859.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2010 Thu 09:54 pm   Quoting Trudy     I hope not!    Most of Turks write poems only for one reason, it is love.  I wrote a lot of them. I know it from myself.  But i kept them to myself.

Thread: Quick turkish to english translation thanks in advance

4860.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2010 Thu 09:51 pm Dudley couldn´t learn anything without Sofia. Thanks to all Sofias. Edited (4/8/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/8/2010) by gokuyum

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4861.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2010 Thu 09:47 pm   Quoting Trudy     Thanks Gokuyum for this very fast translation!  (And now wondering what I have to think of this note....      Think about love.

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4862.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2010 Thu 09:45 pm Thank you dillidüdük. But i can still be wrong.Do you think when means "what time" or " at the time" in this sentence. My idea is we need a question mark to know at the end of the sentence to know what it means exactly. Do you agree? If there was a question mark at the end, i could translate it as "Bana varacağın zamanı bildirir misin?" Edited (4/8/2010) by gokuyum

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4863.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2010 Thu 09:36 pm   Quoting Melike1 I am not a native English as you probably could understand but I think a question mark isnt too necessary. I think it can be:   can you please let me know when you arrive ? and can you please let me know when you will arrive ?   So like İ said the translation would be: Bana ne zaman varacağını bildirir misin ? (or actually bildirebilir misin because of the ´can´ )   Other wise I think Sam would have written: Can you please let me know when you´ve arrived ? (But melike the action of arriving has finished at this sentence, but in my translation it hasn´t finished even it hasn´t started. Vardığın zaman means also varacağın zaman (in this context) in Turkish. Think Turkish way, you will understand me. But also there is difference between "Varacağın zaman bana bildir." and "Varacağın zamanı bana bildir" Varacağın zaman, bana bildir means "Let me now when you will arrive." Varacağın zamanı bana bildir means "Let me know what time(when) you will arrive." I need a question mark here i can´t know which one is which without it.             Edited (4/8/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Quick turkish to english translation thanks in advance

4864.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2010 Thu 09:23 pm My question is "Is there a guess or is there a wish or expectation in this sentence?   "You must have seen from Sophia´s last picture, She also taught dudley this, to drink water from the fridge"

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4865.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2010 Thu 09:21 pm Quote: Gülümseme  You must have seen from Sophia´s last picture, She also taught dudley this, to drink water from the fridge We are talking about Gülümseme´s translation. And thank you for your help sonunda.

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4866.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2010 Thu 09:16 pm   Quoting Trudy The note I got today from a friend is handwritten and I had difficulties to decipher his handwriting. Any spelling errors are likely mine, not his.   I only understand in this note ´my angel´, my devil´ and ´my fire´, so can anyone please translate it for me? I´m very curious to know what is says. Teşekkürler in advance.     Meleğim olmanı istedim I wanted you to be my angel  Sen benim şeytanım oldun You became my devil.  Sonucta ateşimsin Eventually you are my fire  Uzaklaşsam donarım diye korkarım I am afraid of freezing if i become distant  Yaklaşsam yanarım diye korkarım If i draw near you, i am afraid of burning         My try

Thread: english to turkish pleaseeee

4867.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2010 Thu 09:09 pm Check again Melike.I modified my last post. Maybe you could help me to translate it correctly

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4868.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2010 Thu 08:55 pm   Quoting Melike1 I think this should be:   Bana ne zaman varacağını bildirir misin ?   Because how you translated it Gokuyum, it means: when you´ve arrived (past)   And the question was: when you arrive (so when you are going to arrive, (future)  Yes gramatically it seems past but it´s meaning is correct.   Bana ne zaman varacağını bildirir misin ?  It is also correct.   I realised there is a difference in meaning between two translations. My translation means please let me now at the time(when) you will arive. But your tranlation is a question "please let me now what time(when) you will  arrive?" There is not a question mark in the sentence so i translated that way. Question mark is important i think. Edited (4/8/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/8/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/8/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/8/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/8/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Quick turkish to english translation thanks in advance

4869.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2010 Thu 08:29 pm Help, bitte !

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4870.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2010 Thu 08:06 pm   Quoting dilliduduk        "You must have seen from Sophia´s last picture" "from" doesn´t make sense to me" What do native English speakers think?    "Sophia´nın son resminden görmüş olmalısın." doesn´t sound right in Turkish. It should be "Sophia´nın son resminde görmüş olmalısın." But it could be right if the sentence is like that " (Onu) Sofia´nın son resminden tanıdım."   I have another problem with this sentence should it be "görmüş olmalısın(guess)" or "görmeliydin(wish or expectation)" or "görmüş olmalıydın(wish or expectation)". Edited (4/8/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/8/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/8/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/8/2010) by gokuyum

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4871.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2010 Thu 08:00 pm   Quoting dilliduduk     It is not " ...sormak ihtiyacı ..." but "...sorma ihtiyacı..."   or "...sormaya ihtiyaç..." which I think sounds better        Maybe you are right.Both of them are used in spoken language. But i don´t know which one is gramaticaly correct. I am not sure. So i trust you. By the way I hate grammer. Take care. Thank you for your help.

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4872.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2010 Thu 06:47 pm   Quoting lady in red     In that case it doesn´t make sense to use the double negative here.  The English translation should be:   Nobody´s sigh remains on the ground    You are absolutely right. In Turkish we use double negative. It confuses me while i am translating that kind of sentences.   For example : Hiç kimse okula gelmedi.The correct translation is "Nobody came to school". But if we translate it literaly, "Nobody didn´t come to school".   Thank you lady in red Edited (4/8/2010) by gokuyum

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4873.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2010 Thu 05:31 pm   Quoting zeytinne havaalanı  Sonunda     It is very rude zeytinne. It is only a small mistake. Come to your senses.

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4874.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2010 Thu 05:27 pm   Quoting sonunda     Hangi havaalani daha iyidir? Konya mı  yoksa Kayseri mi?   My try    small corrections.

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4875.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2010 Thu 03:12 pm Nobody´s sigh remain on the ground.   This saying is a reference to that saying. "Nobody´s blood remains on the ground." It means we will take his/her revenge.   But in this saying "Nobody´s sigh remains on the ground." Sigh means one´s curse because of an injustice. So the one who will take the revenge is God. (not us) Edited (4/8/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/8/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/8/2010) by gokuyum

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4876.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2010 Thu 03:04 pm Thank you lady in red.I modified it. You are a good teacher.  Take care.

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4877.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2010 Thu 02:55 pm   Quoting lady in red     I´m not Sonunda but I do speak English!    Why did you make all the i´s bigger lady in red. I thought I´s in the middle of sentences should be small.

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4878.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2010 Thu 01:51 pm   Quoting akashaqueen Thanks in advance for all your helpIt´s a bit long   Daha iyi davranmaya ve seni özmemeye calisacam...Ama senden de bunu bekliyorum.Ve bu yapilan haksizliktir!Ben sana ne yaptim hangi büyük kütülüğü yaptim, sen böyle davraniyorsun?Biraz da senin elinde bu aşki kurtarmak.Sadece benden bekleme! Hepsi benim günahim değil. Ve ben senin cocuğun değilim bildigin öyle onursuz gurursuz bi insanda değilimsenin de biraz hareketlerine dikkat etmen gerekir!Ve gercekten iyi düsünelim daha birbirimizi özecek ve hakaret edecek güc kalmadi. Ve inanki hic birsey bu kadar hakarete degmez birbirimizi özmeyede degmez..Eger seni mutlu edemiyors yada edemeyeceksem dahada üzülmeye vakit yok. Seni bütün ictenligimle seviyorum..   I will try to behave better and not to upset you. But I am also waiting for the same thing from you. And this thing which was done is (an) injustice. What did I do to you, what ´big evil´ did I do to you so that you behave like this? It is also in your hands to save this love. Don´t expect everything from me. Everything´s not all my fault. And I am not your child - I am not the dishonourable, contemptible person as you think. You should also pay attention to your manners. Please let´s think carefully. No power remains to upset and insult each other. And believe me nothing is worth to so many insults and to upsetting each other. If I can´t make you happy or will not be able to make you happy, there is no more time to be more upset. I love you sincerely. I am reporting from firing line.   please somebody correct my mistakes, maybe you can sonunda.      Edited (4/8/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/8/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/8/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/8/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/8/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/8/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/8/2010) by gokuyum

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4879.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2010 Thu 12:52 pm   Quoting Bea Blanchi     I think in this case it is ´has´. If we use ´had taught´, then it is more like the action is over. In this case, I am sure the dogs are doing it from time to time...pets are so much fun!   And thanks to all for corrections.....way to learn, at least for me! (and fun, too!)  Thank you Bea for your help. Take care.     Edited (4/8/2010) by gokuyum

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4880.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2010 Thu 11:46 am   Quoting deli Dudley had teached her to drink water from fridge.   has taught    Thank you deli. But is it "has" or "had"? I think action of teaching had ended in the past. Edited (4/8/2010) by gokuyum

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4881.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2010 Thu 11:23 am   Quoting Bea Blanchi Thanks Gokuyum for this correction, it´s helping me spot my mistakes    You are welcome Bea.

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4882.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2010 Thu 11:21 am   Quoting zeytinne İf its "tanıdım" doesnt mean that it can be translated by " i know you".    Seni Marmaris´te tanıdım.   I knew(recognized) you in Marmaris.   Hope it helps

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4883.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2010 Thu 11:12 am   Quoting zeytinne İsnt " Seni Marmaris´te tanıdım" ?   I know : Tanırım, tanıyorum (in this context) I knew : Tanıdım.

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4884.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2010 Thu 11:09 am Thank you lady in red for your corrections and explanations. I modified it.

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4885.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2010 Thu 11:05 am   Quoting Bea Blanchi     My try as learner:   "Marmaris´ten seni tanıyorum". Wait for better translators, please.   Another try may be: "Marmaris´ ten kim olduğunu biliyorum". Not sure which oe is correct.  Correct. "Seni Marmaris´ten tanıyorum." is better.

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4886.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2010 Thu 11:03 am   Quoting Elif--x "hi friend you are gina´s boyfriend right? i need to ask you something about her please can we talk?"    Merhaba arkadaşım. Sen Gina´nın erkek arkadaşısın, değil mi? Sana onun hakkında sorma ihtiyacı duyduğum bazı şeyler var. Konuşabilir miyiz? Edited (4/8/2010) by gokuyum

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4887.       gokuyum 5050 posts  08 Apr 2010 Thu 11:00 am   Quoting bdminnesota "Dudley" and "Sophia" are dogs so this may be fun... sophia´nin son resmini gormelisin, dudley buna da ogretmis buz dolabindan su icmeyi    You must see the last picture of Sophia, Dudley has taught her to drink water from fridge. Edited (4/8/2010) by gokuyum

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4888.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2010 Wed 08:23 pm   Quoting sonunda Rule number 93-NO EXCUSES!    (and definitely NO bending logic!    (hehe)    i like excuses. i have lived all my life with them.

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4889.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2010 Wed 08:06 pm   Quoting Trudy     I like your excuse Gokuyum (I´m going to use excuses like that when someone is correcting me.....      Turkish way of defending yourself is to bend logic. Use it everytime, everywhere. Edited (4/7/2010) by gokuyum

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4890.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2010 Wed 06:41 pm   Quoting sonunda      gokuyum-do you never rest?      Yes, while i am sleeping.  Edited (4/7/2010) by gokuyum

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4891.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2010 Wed 06:35 pm   Quoting hedef dear teyze Thanks ALLAH you are safe Hope you and uncle are fine and wish uncle all the health    Sevgili Teyze   Allah´a şükür güvendesin. Umarım sen ve amca iyisinizdir. Amcaya sıhhatler diliyorum. Edited (4/7/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: For Gokuyum. Please can you translate :)

4892.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2010 Wed 05:30 pm   Quoting Michaela007 We say it over here in Scotland because the weather is so unpredictably.  Sometimes 4 seasons in one day!!  It means we hope the sun shines for you etc      i modified it micheala. check it again.

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4893.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2010 Wed 05:22 pm   Quoting sonunda      Gokuyum-will you please stop using 2 ´l´s where 1 is sufficient!!   holly=holy wellcome=welcome            but holly is more holy than holy and wellcome is more sincere than welcome      Ok i will never write them wrong again. Thank you sonunda. Edited (4/7/2010) by gokuyum

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4894.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2010 Wed 05:19 pm   Quoting sonunda      It just means that she hopes the weather will be fine and not rain.    Then i translated it incorrectly. It sounds like hope the weather is good for you. But it doesn´t matter both of them are good wishes. Edited (4/7/2010) by gokuyum

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4895.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2010 Wed 05:16 pm   Quoting sonunda Look at the date on the original post-I think this was done and dusted a long time ago!  oh! holly cow!

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4896.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2010 Wed 05:11 pm   Quoting Michaela007 Thanks for the quick reply. I will put it out freely next time.................... he he    You are wellcome but what did you mean with "hope the weather is good to you" Is it something like "Hope the weather is good for your health" or "Hope the weather is good like you expect?" Or another? Edited (4/7/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/7/2010) by gokuyum

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4897.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2010 Wed 05:05 pm   Quoting Elif--x kusura bakamyın ama tanıyamadım tanışıomuyuz anlamadım bilmem mi? gerekio tanıdık gelio ama isim cıkaramadım   thanks in advance    Turkish to Turkish : Kusura bakmayın ama tanıyamadım. Tanışıyor muyuz? Anlamadım; bilmem mi gerekiyor? Tanıdık geliyor ama ismi çıkaramadım.   Turkish to English : Excuse me but i couldn´t recognize you. Do we know each other? I didn´t understand, should i know it( the name)? It sounds familiar but i couldn´t remember(or recognize) the name. Edited (4/7/2010) by gokuyum

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4898.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2010 Wed 04:33 pm sonunda help me please.

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4899.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2010 Wed 04:32 pm   Quoting Michaela007 Hi, I want to wish my friend a happy holiday,  could you translate this into turkish?   Have a brilliant time in Kusadasi with Sibel.  I can´t remember if it´s this week or next you fly out. Hope the weather is good to you.  All the best................   Thanks  hehe Micheala thank you for your trust. But there are many people knows English and Turkish better than me. For example sonunda      (My try)   Kuşadası´nda Sibel´le harika bir zaman geçirmeni dilerim. Bu hafta mı yoksa gelecek hafta mı uçuyorsun? Umarım hava senin için güzel olur. Tüm iyi (dileklerimle)....   I need help "Hope the weather is good to u" should we translate it like this "Hava umarım sana iyi gelir" or like this "Umarım hava senin için iyidir" I chose the first. Thank you in advance.   Edited (4/7/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/7/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/7/2010) by gokuyum

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4900.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2010 Wed 03:34 pm   Quoting Henry My attempt to improve the English Öğüt veren çoktur, para veren yoktur There are many giving advice, (but) there are none giving money. (Advice = isim, advise = fiil)    Thank you henry, i will modify it. Edited (4/7/2010) by gokuyum

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4901.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2010 Wed 03:33 pm   Quoting akashaqueen İkinize de çok teşekkür ederim I hope I said it right if not, corrections are welcomed    It is correct. you are wellcome akashaqueen.   Edited (4/7/2010) by gokuyum

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4902.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2010 Wed 03:20 pm   Quoting sonunda     Nothing is worth upsetting each other for, my one and only. Believe me sometimes it´s not in our hands : nervousness, stress or why would we upset each other...and I´m sorry I upset you.   My try-but wait for corrections. (I expect gokuyum will have something to say    )  Wooow sonunda nearly perfect. bravo

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4903.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2010 Wed 01:37 pm   Quoting akashaqueen How can i say?   Was / does/ did/ it´s worth it?   Thanks in advance   my try   Is it worth it ? Buna değer mi? Is it´s worth it? Bunun değeri bu mu?( When you want to buy something it´s better to ask "Is it´s price it? [ Bunun fiyatı bu mu?] Edited (4/7/2010) by gokuyum

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4904.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2010 Wed 12:39 pm   Quoting yilgun-2010 Anadolu´dan özdeyişler: Sayings from Anatolia  -Kimsenin ahı yerde kalmaz Nobody´s sigh remain on the ground.  -Eden bulur He/she who does, he/she finds  -Ayıdan post, kötüden dost olmaz It can´t be pelt from a bear and it can´t be friend from a bad person.  -Öğüt veren çoktur, para veren yoktur There are many giving advice, (but) there are none giving money. -Kimse kimsenin derdini sormaz Nobody asks about nobody´s trouble.  -Gerçek dost ve arkadaş, kötü günde belli olur  On a bad day it is evident who is the real friend and ally.   -Aynı dili paylaşanlar değil, aynı duygu ve düşünceyi paylaşanlar anlaşabilir. Not the people who shares same language, the people who shares same feelings and thoughts can understand each other.    -Herkes ayrı bir yüz, herkes ayrı bir fikir Eveybody is another face, everybody is another idea.  -Ak akçe kara gün içindir White money is for black day.  -Herkes bir emanetçidir Everybody is a depositary.  -Çalışan kazanır  He/she who works,he/she earns.  (corrections needed)    I translated them literally. I hope some will explain their meanings. Edited (4/7/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/7/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/8/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/8/2010) by gokuyum

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4905.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2010 Wed 12:21 pm   Quoting vessper Can someone please translate this   Baby i miss you too.. we will be together after army i promise.    Bebeğim ben de seni özlüyorum. Ordudan (askerlikten) sonra birlikte olacağız; söz veriyorum.

Thread: english to turkish pleaseeee

4906.       gokuyum 5050 posts  07 Apr 2010 Wed 12:18 pm   Quoting sam1 my love can you please let me know when you arrive, i love you    Aşkım vardığın(geldiğin) zaman lütfen bana haber verebilir misin? Seni seviyorum.

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4907.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Apr 2010 Tue 01:40 pm   Quoting deli Bazen kavgalar yemeğin tuzu, Biberi gibidir. Nasil yemeğe tuz biber tat verise. tartismalarda sevgiye renk katar tat verir.  Sometimes arguments are like salt and pepper in a meal. As how salt and pepper give flavor to meals, arguments enliven love and give it flavor.   Edited (4/6/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/6/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/6/2010) by gokuyum

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4908.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Apr 2010 Tue 10:19 am   Quoting Henry     Teşekkürler, I also felt something was missing from Samantha falcı teyze.  I am glad you also mentioned this.     Your translation still can be true. Most of the translators don´t know Turkish grammer correctly.

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4909.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Apr 2010 Tue 10:07 am   Quoting Henry My attempt as a learner - Samantha falci teyze: Samantha the fortune-tellıng aunty sevdigin kisiyle kavga edeceksin you will quarrel with the person who you love    Henry yours makes sence.But there is a problem "falcı teyze" must be before Samantha in Turkish. But i don´t know how translator translated it.   Edited (4/6/2010) by gokuyum

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4910.       gokuyum 5050 posts  06 Apr 2010 Tue 10:04 am   Quoting sam1 -FALCI TEYZE- Fortune Teller Aunt   Samantha falci teyze: (To?) Samantha fortune teller aunt (told):  sevdigin kisiyle kavga edeceksin You will fight with the person who you love.    "Samantha falcı teyze" this sentence seems gramatically incorrect. Is it "Samantha´ya(to Samantha) falcı teyze" Edited (4/6/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: help with turkish to english, thanks!

4911.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Apr 2010 Mon 09:12 pm   Quoting lady in red        oops  Thank you lady in red

Thread: Turkish to English Please, tessekur ederim!

4912.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Apr 2010 Mon 07:30 pm   Quoting lessons_in_love bu ses beni derinden yaralıyor yok böyle bişey kardeşim    This voice  wounds me deeply, there is not such a thing, my brother/sister.

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4913.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Apr 2010 Mon 07:27 pm I love this woman´s voice very much. It is impossible not to to be enchanted while listening this woman´s voice. Edited (4/5/2010) by gokuyum

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4914.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Apr 2010 Mon 07:25 pm ACİZ İNSANLAR İFTİRA EDERMİŞ BACIM NE KADAR DOĞRU BİR SÖZ. Impotent people slanders, my sister what a true word. Doğru bir söz ama acizlikten öte şeriflik(?) varmış kanında; ne eylersin salla gitsin, takma kafaya şapkadan başka bir şey. It is a true word but beyond impotence there had been a dishonour in her/his blood. What could you do? Don´t mind it, don´t put anything on your head instead of a hat.   Note 1: şeriflik means shrievalty. But it doesn´t make sense in this context. I think it is şeref-siz-lik means dishonour. It makes sense.   Note 2: "Takma kafaya şapkadan başka bir şey" It is slang and also there is a wordplay in this sentence only makes sence in Turkish.Shortly it means nevermind, don´t mind it" Edited (4/5/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: help with turkish to english please, thanks so much!

4915.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Apr 2010 Mon 07:14 pm   Quoting lessons_in_love haha .  I´m trying understand what 2 Turkish people are saying about a you-tube song, anyone?    Ok then i will translate it. Edited (4/5/2010) by gokuyum

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4916.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Apr 2010 Mon 07:13 pm   Quoting lessons_in_love  bu kadının sesine bayılıyorum dinlerken kendinden geçmemesi mümkün deyil insanın    I love this woman´s voice very much. It is impossible not to to be enchanted while listening that woman´s voice.

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4917.       gokuyum 5050 posts  05 Apr 2010 Mon 07:03 pm   Quoting lessons_in_love   ACİZ İNSANLAR İFTİRA EDERMİŞ BACIM NE KADAR DOĞRU BİR SÖZ.   Doğru bir söz ama acizlikten öte şeriflik(?) varmış kanında; ne eylersin salla gitsin, takma kafaya şapkadan başka bir şey.    Turkish to turkish translation. Edited (4/5/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/5/2010) by gokuyum

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4918.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Apr 2010 Sun 08:55 pm   Quoting deli      iltifatin için teşekkür ederim ama türkcem  mükemmelden uzak    perfect again

Thread: English to Turkish translation, thanks

4919.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Apr 2010 Sun 07:55 pm   Quoting Michaela007 Can someone please translate the following into Turkish:   Hi, how´s it going?  Nice picture, you look so serious.................. I´m laughing.  How is the pregnancy going? My sister is having a boy.  They are taking over the family now. They got the scan a few weeks ago and he pointed at them.    I wish I could have gone with them!!  Selam, nasıl gidiyor? Hoş resim, çok ciddi görünüyorsun.......Gülüyorum. Hamilelik nasıl gidiyor? Kız kardeşimin bir erkek çocuğu oluyor. Ailenin yönetimini artık onlar ellerine alıyorlar. Bir hafta önce taramayı aldılar ve o onları parmağı ile gösterdi. Keşke onlarla gidebilseydim.  I leave Scotland for Italy then the southeast just when your baby is due to come.  Let me know if you want me to take anything to your family.  I may be able to pass it to someone else if I don´t make it to your city/town.  Italya´ya gitmek için İskoçya´dan ayrılıyorum tam bebeğin gelmek üzereyken güneydoğuya (gideceğim). Ailen için herhangi bir şey almamı istiyorsan beni haberdar et. Eğer şehrinize vaktinde yetişemezsem, başka birine onu geçirebilirim. Ok, I´ll stay in touch and maybe we can meet up soon so I can ask your advice about stuff I need to know about when I go. Tamam iletişimde kalacağım ve belki çok yakında görüşürüz böylece gittiğim zaman bilmem gerekli olan şeyler hakkında tavsiyeni sorabilirim.

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4920.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Apr 2010 Sun 07:00 pm   Quoting tomac My try as learner. It´s short, but I´m still not quite sure about it, I hope someone can check if it´s correct.   Ben evdeyim şimdi, ama eylül ayında Bodrum´a geleceğim. Umarım (en kısa zamanda) görüşürüz.    it is correct.

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4921.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Apr 2010 Sun 05:38 pm   Quoting yilgun-2010 gokuyum, çok teşekkür ederim.    You are welcome.

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4922.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Apr 2010 Sun 05:19 pm   Quoting yilgun-2010 Gazetelerden: From newspapers:    Anadolu’da yapılan arkeolojik kazılarda şu mesaj bulunmuştur.  That massage is found in consequence of archeological diggings in Anatolia “…Allah tarafından insan olarak yaratıldınız. You were created as human beings by Allah ( or God?)  Bulunduğunuz ülkede doğdunuz. You were born in the country you have been living.  Oysa bir başka ülkede de dünyaya gelebilirdiniz. However you could be born in an another country.  Anne ve babanız sizi önceden seçmedi. Your parents didn´t choose you beforehand.  Siz de anne ve babanızı önceden seçmediniz. You didn´t choose also your parents.  Unutmayın ki Allah neylerse güzel eyler. Don´t forget if Allah does, he does good. Allah kullarını çok sever ve onları meleklerden üstün kılmıştır. Allah loves humans so much and he had created them superiour to angels.  Bu dünyada size armağan edilen belli bir hayatı yaşıyorsunuz. You have been living a certain life given you as a present.  Hayat güzel. Life is beautiful.  Allah tarafından her topluma doğru yolu gösterici peygamberler gönderildi. Allah sent prophets who showed the right way to every society. Bilim, teknoloji ve sosyal refah  alanında ilerlemeler kaydetmek, insanca  ve mutlu yaşamak varken, tarih boyunca insanlar arasındaki savaşlara, haksız kişisel  çıkar kavgalarına, anlamsız ve zalimce mücadelelere ne gerek vardı? What was the reason of wars,fightings on unjust individual benefits and meaningless and cruel strugless all along the history when it was possible to improve on science, technology and social welfare and to live humanly and happily Doğaya, çevreye, hayvanlara  neden acımasız davrandınız?…” Why did you behave so merciless to nature, environment and to animals?                 I think human beings have egoist natures.  It is possible to improve it a bit by education, but it is impossible to remove it completely. So it is not possible to hinder wars because always the interests of some humans will be oposite to others. To hinder the wars, we shouldn´t have interests. It is impossible in a material univerce. Maybe in heaven we could be in peace. But according to reverends, hell has been waiting for most of us.So there is no absolute peace for humanity neither in world nor in other world. So live as you please and bear the consequences.   Edited (4/4/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/4/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/4/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/4/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/4/2010) by gokuyum

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4923.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Apr 2010 Sun 03:04 pm   Quoting Gülümseme ohh I was too slow    Yours is more clear than mine

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4924.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Apr 2010 Sun 03:01 pm   Quoting yilgun-2010 MUTLULUK   Kaliforniya Üniversitesi´ nin araştırmasına gore, mutlu olmanın yolları şunlardır: - Şükretmek - Başkalarına iyilik yapmak - Çalışmak ve işini iyi yapmak  Happiness   According to the research of California Univercity, the rules to become happy are:   -To be thankful -To help others -To work and to do your own job good.     What a discovery. These are old church rules. Only rule to become happy is "to know".       Edited (4/4/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/4/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/4/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/4/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/4/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: TURKISH NOVELS

4925.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Apr 2010 Sun 02:53 pm Vedat Türkali / Bir Gün Tek Başına ( One Day Alone) 27 Mayıs 1960 Harekatına yaklaşırken, son 5-6 aylık bir zaman dilimi... It is the period of time of 5-6 months while it is coming close to 27 May 1960 opperation.    Parlamenter diktatörlüğün karanlığında, umutsuzcasına; el yordamıyla direnmeye çalışan bir toplum... In the darkness of parliamentarian dictatorship, a society standing without hope, by rule of thomb Yıllar önce ´Müdüriyet´te yediği iki tokatla yılıp sinen; Kenan who was daunted by two slaps and cowered in fear in directory, years before,   Beyazıt´ta öğrenci kitlesinin eylemi içine düşüverince tabanları yağlayan bencil, ürkek, kuşkulu ve kaypak Kenan... Kenan who is egoist, jumpy, doubtful man who ran away when he found himself in a student mass act.   Evinde olabildiğince ağır iki çeki taşı; karısı Nermin ve kızı Zeynep... A burden which is heavy as much as it could be at home; his wife and his daughter Zeynep.  Devrimci ateşi sönmüş Kenan´ın karşısına, devrimci ateşi yeni yeni alevlenmeye başlayan bilinçli, gözüpek ve dirençli Günsel çıkıyor. Günsel who is a conscious, brave and tough woman whose revolutionary fire started to flame, meets Kenan whose revolutionary fire has died down. Günsel´le Kenan´ın aşkının perde arkasında kıvıl kıvıl kaynayan bir toplum... A society which is vigorously boiling in the backstage of Günsel´s and Kenan´s love Kenan´ın iki tokatta yüzgeri ettiği yolun yiğit savaşçıları ´Baba´ ve Hasan´ın yılmaz mücadeleleri... "Baba" and Hasan who are the brave fighters of the way which Kenan turned back because of two slaps   ´Bir Gün Tek Başına´,25 yıldır artık Türk klasikleri arasında yerini almış Vedat Türkali´nin ilk romanı... "Bir gün Tek Başına" which is a novel that it has taken its place in the Turkish classics for 25 years is Vedat Türkali´s first novel.     (from Antoloji.com)   (corrections needed)   My advice : " Read Ayn Rand"    Edited (4/4/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/13/2010) by gokuyum Edited (5/30/2010) by gokuyum

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4926.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Apr 2010 Sun 02:05 pm   Quoting karinalinares is that correct?    It is correct.   Blessings mean "kutsamalar". But in this context "iyilikler" is a much better choice.

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4927.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Apr 2010 Sun 02:01 pm   Quoting Lady_A Bunu senden almak cok guzel! Sandimki bu defa gercekten unutuldum ama bana kizma lutfen, ben seni üzmek istememistim iyi olduguna sevindim.     THANKS!

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4928.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Apr 2010 Sun 01:59 pm   Quoting deli      really nice to receive this from you.Please dont be angry with me but I really thought  that I had been forgotten this time, I didnt want to forget upset you? Im glad that you are well     my try    Wow your turkish is really perfect.

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4929.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Apr 2010 Sun 09:15 am   Quoting Lady_A Thank you, can you please translate the answer to Turkish?   "You always answer me after 3 days. I have been busy. And no, I haven´t forgotten you, I just can´t (forget you). Have a nice day!"       THANK YOU!  Sen beni her zaman üç gün sonra cevaplıyorsun. Meşgulüm. Ve seni de unutmadım. Seni unutamıyorum. İyi günler.

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4930.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Apr 2010 Sun 09:03 am   Quoting Lady_A   To English please:   Bana cevap bile yazmak istemiyormusunuz? umarim iyisinizdir.     THANK YOU!    Don´t you even want to write me an answer? I hope you are good.

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4931.       gokuyum 5050 posts  04 Apr 2010 Sun 06:23 am http://webtv.hurriyet.com.tr/category.aspx?cid=5&vid=5335&bid=1&hid=14308739   Ölmedim lan! I am not dead goddamn!    Edited (4/4/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/24/2010) by gokuyum

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4932.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Apr 2010 Sat 04:43 pm I am a big fan of them.   My favourite anime series are:   1) Naruto (action, adventure, comedy) 2) Claymore (adventure, fantasy) 3) Berserk (action, adventure, fantasy) 4) Space Adventure Cobra (action, adventure, science fiction) 5) Cowboy Bebop (action, adventure, comedy, science fiction) 6) Hellsing (action, adventure, horror) 7) Death Note (fantasy, mystery) 8) Dragon Ball (action, adventure, comedy, fantasy, magic, science-fiction, super power 9) Great Teacher Onizuka (comedy, drama, school life) 10 ) Slam Dunk (comedy, school life, sports)    (You can watch most of Japanese series on Youtube with english subs.) Edited (4/3/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/3/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: TURKISH NOVELS

4933.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Apr 2010 Sat 04:00 pm Elif Şafak / Aşk (Love)   Ya ortasındasındır AŞK’ın merkezinde; ya da dışındasındır, hasretinde... Either you are in the middle of the center of love or you are out of it in the longing of it.    Ella Rubinstein ( 40 ) Amerikalı bir ev kadınıdır. Ella Rubenstein ( 40 ) is a typical American house wife. Tipik burjuva değerlerinin hâkim olduğu oldukça varlıklı bir ailesi, düzenli ve görünüşte “sorunsuz” bir evliliği vardır. She has a very wealthy family which is dominated by bourgeois merits and a neat and in appearence "troubleless" marriage. Üç çocuğunu da büyüttükten sonra bir yayınevinde editör-asistanı olarak iş bulur; görevi A. Z. Zahara adlı tanınmamış bir yazarın tasavvuf felsefesini konu alan tarihi romanını değerlendirmektir. After she had raised her three children, she found a job as an editor assistant in a publishing house. His first job was to judge a novel of a unknown author named A. Z. Zahara about sufism philosophy.  Ancak hayatının kritik bir döneminde eline aldığı bu kitap, hiç beklemediği bir şekilde Ella’yı derinden sarsacak, dünyevi aşkı keşfetmek adına zorlu ve tehlikeli bir yolculuğa çıkmasına neden olacaktır. But this book which she took in her hands in a critical time of her life would affect her deeply unexpectedly and it would cause her to go on a difficult and dangerous  journey to find wordly love. Hayatlarımızın durgun gölünü dalgalandıran taş misali, yüzleşmek zorunda olduğumuz sıkıntılar, acılar… ve aşkın peşinde kat etmek zorunda olduğumuz zorlu yollar, ödediğimiz bedeller...  The troubles and the pains which we have to face like a stone that undulates the standing lake of our lives... and the hard roads which we have to walk in search of love and the prices which we paid Aşk... kitap içinde bir kitap, hayatın anlamı peşinde bir aşk macerası… Aşk... a book in a book, a journey of love in search of the meaning of life...   Aşk... Elif Şafak’tan arayışa, gerçeğe ve keşfetmeye dair bir roman. Aşk... A novel about search, truth and discovering by Elif Şafak.   (from wikipedia)   (corrections needed) Edited (4/3/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/3/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/13/2010) by gokuyum

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4934.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Apr 2010 Sat 01:43 pm Solution: It doesn´t mean if you imagine a man who is thinking that this imaginary man is really thinking. You are the one again who is thinking by imagining a man who is thinking not the imaginery man. So imaginary man isn´t thinking then he doesn´t exist. Is my logic correct? Or is it really a dilemma?   [It is like a tongue twister ] Edited (4/3/2010) by gokuyum

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4935.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Apr 2010 Sat 10:54 am İhsan Oktay Anar / Puslu Kıtalar Atlası (The Misty Continents)   Puslu Kıtalar Atlası, İhsan Oktay Anar´ın yazmış olduğu ilk romandır. Puslu Kıtalar Atlası is the first novel written by İhsan Oktay Anar.  Kitap ilk kez 1995 yılında İletişim Yayınları tarafından basıldı. It was first published in 1995 by İletişim Yayınları.  Yayınlandığı andan itibaren hem içerik hem biçim olarak ilgi gördü. Since the day it was published it has been interested in by the the content and form.  Birçok yeni baskısı yapıldı ve eleştirmenler tarafından olumlu değerlendirmelere tabi tutuldu. It has published many times and it has been criticized positively by critics. Bu kitap dolayısıyla Anar için "edebiyatın yeni soluğu" tanımlaması yapıldı. Anar has been defined as "the new breath of literature" because of this novel.   Kitap, İhsan Oktay Anar´ın bir felsefeci olduğunu göstermiş ve okuyucuya bu derinliği iletebilmiştir. The novel had showed what a philosopher Ihsan Oktay Anar was and it has been able to deliver this depth to reader. Ayrıca kitaptaki düzgün ve akıcı anlatımın okuyucu üzerindeki tesiri sayesinde tarihe olan ilgi artmıştır. By the way,the interest in history has been increased by the affect of smooth and fluent telling on people.   (from wikipedia)     From the novel   Yeniçeriler kapıyı zorlarken Uzun İhsan Efendi hala malum konuyu düşünüyor, fakat işin içinden bir türlü çıkamıyordu... While janissaries was forcing the door, Uzun Ihsan Efendi was still thinking about that known matter, but he wasn´t able to work out a solution.  ´Rendekar doğru mu söylüyor? Is Rendekar(Rene Descartes) telling the truth?  Düşünüyorum, öylese varım. "I am thinking then I exist." Oldukça makul. It is pretty reasonable. Fakat bundan tam tersi bir sonuç, varolmadığım, bir düş olduğum sonucu da çıkar: Düşünen bir adamı düşünüyorum. But we can get a opposite result  from it, it is "I don´t exist, i am a dream." I am thinking a man who is thinking. Düşündüğümü bildiğim için, ben varım. I exist because i know i am thinking.  Düşündüğünü bildiğim için, düşlediğim bu adamın da varolduğunu biliyorum. Because i know i am thinking, i know also this man who i am imagining exists.  Böylece o da benim kadar gerçek oluyor. Bundan sonrası çok daha hüzünlü bir sonuca varıyor. So he is real as myself. After that he came to a more sad decision. Düşündüğünü düşündüğüm bu adamın beni düşlediğini düşlüyorum.  I am imagining this man who i think that he is thinking me, is imagining me Öylese gerçek olan biri beni düşlüyor. Then a real person is imagining me.   O gerçek, ben ise bir düş oluyorum. If he is real, i am becoming a dream.  Kapı kırıldığında Uzun İhsan Efendi kitabı kapandı. When the door was broken down, Uzun İhsan Efendi closed the book.  az sonra başına geleceklere aldırmadan kafasından şunları geçirdi: He tought those by not paying attention what would happen to him shortly after: ´Dünya bir düştür. Evet, dünya..Ah! Evet, dünya bir masaldır.´ "The world is a dream. Yes, the world... Ahh! Yes, the world is a fairy tale."   (corrections needed)   i didn´t understand a thing if you did, explain it to me simply please. Edited (4/3/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/3/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/3/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/3/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/3/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/3/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/4/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/13/2010) by gokuyum

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4936.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Apr 2010 Sat 08:26 am Reşat Nuri Güntekin / Acımak(Pitying)     Zehra kasabanın en tanınan kişisidir. Zehra is the most well-known person in the town. Çok iyi bir öğretmen olup sevilen birisidir. She is a very good teacher and she is a loved person. Fakat geçmişte yaşadılarından dolayı acıma duygusundan yoksundur. But because of events in her past, she is deprived of the emotion of pitying. Bir gün Maarif Bey gelip bir mektup verir. One day director of education gave her a letter. İstanbul’dan cağrıldığını ve babasının çok hasta olduğunu söyler. He told that she was called from İstanbul and her father was very sick. Ama o bunu kabul etmez But she didn’t accept it. .Çünkü küçükken annesinin ,ablasının ve kendisinin başına gelen bütün olaylar hep onun yüzündendir. Because her father was the reason of every bad things happened to her mother, her sister and herself. Belli bir süre sonra baskıya dayanamaz.İstanbul’a gitmek üzere trene biner. After a time, she couldn’t stand to the pressure. And she got in a train to go to İstanbul. Trende hep babasının annesine ,ablasına bağırmasını,sarhoş sarhoş eve gelmesini düşündükçe ona nefreti artar. Her anger increased while she was thinking about shoutings of her father to her mother and to her sister and comings of her father to home drunken. Üstelik komşuları olan Necip Bey ve ablasının o kadar iyiliğine karşın onlarlada kavga etmiştir. Even he had fighted with their neighboor Necip Bey and her sister inspite of their all favors.  İstanbul’a gelipte verilen adrese gittiğinde yaşlı bir adam ve kadın onu bekler When she came to İstanbul and went to address given her, she found a old man and a women waiting for her. Onlar babasının öldüğünü söylerler. They told her that his father died. Ondan kalan birkaç eşya ve sandık verirler. They gave her a few belongings and a trunk of her father. Akşam uykusu gelmeyince kutuyu açar. She opened it when she couldn’t sleep. Birkaç eşya ve bir günlük bulur. She found a few belongings and a diary. Günlüğü okumaya başlar. She started to read the diary. (from wikipedia)  Okudukça babası hakkındaki gerçeği anlamaya başladı. And she started to understand the truth about her father while she was reading.   Sonunda  Zehra acıma duygusunu kazanır. In the end of the novel, Zehra gained the emotion of pitying. [from me ]   (corrections needed) Edited (4/3/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/3/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/3/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/3/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/3/2010) by gokuyum

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4937.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Apr 2010 Sat 07:31 am   Quoting pap Thank you very very much Gokuyum for helping me...You are great!    Thank you. You are welcome.

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4938.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Apr 2010 Sat 07:30 am   Quoting smiley goremem ımkansız sevdamsın benden uzaksın sucluyum bana yasaksın elımde kesmez kor bıcak kadere ısyanım keskelere ve herseye ragmen senı sevıyorum duyanlara duymayanlara ben onu cok sevıyoruuuum  I can´t see, you are my impossible love. You are far from me. I am guilty. You are forbidden to me. A not-sharp, obtuse knife is in my hand. My rebellion is against faith. I love you inspite of "if onlies" and everything.I love you. Hear it everyone,i love him so much.

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4939.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Apr 2010 Sat 07:05 am   Quoting sunny13 Once we meet in person, then I will give you my home telephone number.  I still don´t know you. You can always send me message in Turkish if you are uncertain about a.s.   I hope things will work out for you and b.  I was wrong.        Yüz yüze konuştuğumuzda sana evimin telefon numarasını vereceğim. Seni hala tanımıyorum. Eğer a.s konusunda emin değilsen, bana her zaman Türkçe mesaj gönderebilirsin.  Umarım her şey senin ve b. için yolunda gider. Yanılmıştım. Edited (4/3/2010) by gokuyum

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4940.       gokuyum 5050 posts  03 Apr 2010 Sat 06:59 am   Quoting sunny13 Pleasehelp me to translate:   I am really sorry my friend!    Arkadaşım gerçekten (çok) üzgünüm.

Thread: TURKISH NOVELS

4941.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Apr 2010 Fri 07:24 pm My (all time) favourites are:   1) Oğuz Atay / Tutunamayanlar   Tutunamayanlar (in Eng. The Good for Nothing) is the first novel of Oguz Atay, one of the most prominent Turkish authors. It was written in 1970-71 and published in 1972. Although it was never reprinted in his lifetime and was controversial among critics, it has become a best-seller since a new edition came out in 1984. It has been described as “probably the most eminent novel of twentieth-century Turkish literature”[1]. This reference is due to a UNESCO survey, which goes on: “it poses an earnest challenge to even the most skilled translator with its kaleidoscope of colloquialisms and sheer size.” No translation has yet appeared in any language. It teases the well-established norms of the Turkish bourgeois world by a style which only "the disconnected" could empathize with. (From wikipedia)   2) Orhan Pamuk / Benim Adım Kırmızı   My Name Is Red (Benim Adım Kırmızı is a Turkish novel by Nobel laureate author Orhan Pamuk. The English translation won the International IMPAC Dublin Literary Award in 2003,[1]. The French version won the French Prix du Meilleur Livre Étranger and the Italian version the Premio Grinzane Cavour in 2002. The novel and its English translation established Pamuk´s international reputation and contributed to his winning of the Nobel prize. In recognition of its exceptional status in Pamuk´s oeuvre, the novel will be re-published in Erdag Goknar´s translation as part of the Everyman´s Library Contemporary Classics series in 2010. This is recognition of the novel´s status in the international canon of literature along with the novels of authors like Joyce, Kafka, Mann, Nabokov, and Rushdie whose influences can be seen in Pamuk´s work. BBC Radio 4 broadcast a radio play version of the novel in 2008. (From wikipedia)   3) Metin Kaçan / Ağır Roman ( It is impossible to translate it just watch the movie) (There is a movie by the same name adapted from it. I think it is the most succesful movie of turkish cinema.)(if we can count Gegen Die Wand, it is second then) (There are huge differences between book and movie.)   Edited (4/2/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/2/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/2/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/2/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/2/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/2/2010) by gokuyum

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4942.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Apr 2010 Fri 01:43 pm   Quoting sonunda     Of course! (it was a little joke!)       My English is as bad as my Turkish.

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4943.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Apr 2010 Fri 01:39 pm   Quoting sonunda     That´s nice of you-if only it were true. (I´m really good at English though! )    Aren´t you English by the way?

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4944.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Apr 2010 Fri 01:33 pm   Quoting uymich thank you very much for the help from both of you. I wish I could also be an expert in Turkish as both of you.    Sonunda is really good at Turkish. Her Turkish is better than mine altough i am a native I will be happy to help you everytime if i could. Have a nice day. Edited (4/2/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/2/2010) by gokuyum

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4945.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Apr 2010 Fri 01:12 pm   Quoting sonunda My final decision:  " It doesn´t go, on msn, i am writing because of it. Haven´t you learnt yet Turkish? " correct me if i am wrong     It´s okay,but it English it sounds better if you say   It won´t go on MSN so I´m writing instead. Haven´t you learnt Turkish yet?   (we don´t often say ´because of it´ in English-we would just say ´so´  )        Ok i give up. Sonunda, you beat me again with the help of MarioninTurkey. Let´s be allies. You know how to win. Take care (by the way i modified my final decision)

Thread: turkish to english, please - Thank you so much

4946.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Apr 2010 Fri 12:55 pm Thank you very much Marion. You are very helpful.

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4947.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Apr 2010 Fri 12:49 pm   Quoting sonunda It won´t go on msn, so I am writing it instead.   It won´t (doesn´t) go, on msn, because of it I am writing     Marion´s sounds better in English. msn den gitmiyor, onun için yazıyorum.   Daha Türkçe öğrenmedinmi? It won´t go on MSN so I´m writing instead. Haven´t you learnt Turkish yet? Edited (4/2/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/2/2010) by gokuyum

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4948.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Apr 2010 Fri 12:42 pm   Quoting uymich çok teşekkur ederim   please also translate this:        It doesn´t go, on msn. Because of it i am writing. Edited (4/2/2010) by gokuyum

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4949.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Apr 2010 Fri 12:37 pm   Quoting MarioninTurkey     Agree it is ambiguous. But...    He doesn´t go on msn (as a person) you would normally say msn´e girmiyor A message won´t send: msn´den gitmiyor.   This interpretation makes sense if you tidy up the English: It won´t (doesn´t) go, on msn, because of it I am writing   Still, we need the context to decide what is right!       Edited (4/2/2010) by gokuyum

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4950.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Apr 2010 Fri 12:32 pm   Quoting sonunda   He (It) doesn´t go on MSN,I am writing for him.it     I thought he was talking about Ben. In that case I think I was correct.     Yours doesn´t make sense.  It isn´t about previous text. It is a new text. Mine is correct. Yours isn´t correct.Believe me.   Edited (4/2/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/2/2010) by gokuyum

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4951.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Apr 2010 Fri 12:17 pm Check it regularly. You know me. i modified again.

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4952.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Apr 2010 Fri 12:08 pm   Quoting sonunda msn den gitmiyor, onun için yazıyorum. It doesn´t go, on msn, because of it i am writing  Daha Türkçe öğrenmedin mi?(Haven´t you learnt Turkish yet ? note :   "daha" can mean "more" but also "yet" In this context it is "yet") but   in this context "more" (Daha çok(fazla) Türkçe öğrenmedin mi? eng:   Didn´t you learn more Turkish?)     He (It) doesn´t go, on MSN,I am writing for him.because of it   Did you learn more Turkish?   Sonunda look at my corrections please.Hope it helps.   Edited (4/2/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/2/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/2/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/2/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/2/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/2/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/2/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/2/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/2/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/2/2010) by gokuyum

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4953.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Apr 2010 Fri 12:01 pm   Quoting sonunda Ben ´le görüsmüyoruz   Isn´t it ´WE don´t talk to Ben´  ?  No if you say so it means  "I and Ben don´t talk to Ben" By the way thank you for your help sonunda. You are so kind.

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4954.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Apr 2010 Fri 11:49 am Should it be "i don´t talk with you anymore" or "i don´t talk to you anymore".Or is it possible both ways.  In Turkish it is "i don´t talk with you anymore." It is wrong to say  "i don´t talk to you anymore"   Thanks in advance

Thread: turkish to english, please - Thank you so much

4955.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Apr 2010 Fri 11:41 am   Quoting smiley supeeeeer karızma ben hep dıyorum senı tek gecerım super charisma i say always you are the one  varlıgın dert yoklugun yara Your presence is a pain/problem/trouble, your absence is a wound sesın yok kokun yok yasıyorum amaaaa tadım yok your voice is absent, your smell is absent, i live without joy  yanımda olsaydın olmazdı yanlıslarım If you were near me, my mistakes wouldn´t be.  bası yok sonu yok u sevdanın adı bıle yok It has no begining no ending, there is no name of (your) love  her gecen gun sensızlıge da cok batıyorum gel desem gelemessın Every passing day i have been sinking into being without you, if i say come, you can´t  olmek neymıs yoklugunda anlıyorum Through your absence I understand what it means to die  unutabılsem senı ve sensızlıgı If only I could  i forget you and forget being without you  hayatım senle basladı korkarımkı sensızlıkle bıtecek My life started with you and i am afraid it will end with being without you.  sen benı karanlıgın ıcınde ateslere bıraktın sensın sebebı herseyın sebebı sensın You left me in flames in darkness, it is you who is the reason of everything  yasıyormuyum sandın hayatım kaymıs haberın varmı senı cok sevdıgımden Did you think i was living? My life  had been ruined. Do you know how much i love you? haberın varmı yuregımın sesınden bır dua gıbı bır ruya gıbı yasıyorum her an senı Do you know my voice of heart? I live you  like a prayer like a dream  every moment sensız hıcım oyle bı saplandınkı bır haın hancer gıbı gecmıyor bu allahın belası yara kapanmıyorkı Without you i am nothing, you were stuck like a dagger. It hasn´t been passing away, this goddamn wound hasn´t been recovered. senı sevdım sende sevdın ama yetmedı yetemedın be kara gozlum ben hep yalnızdım sensızlıkle basbasaydım I loved you, you loved also. But it wasn´t enough, you weren´t enough. O my dark-eyed love. I was always lonely i was always with being without you  olmadı olmıcak ıste bsa bu yasananlar cektıgım butun acılar bosa sensızlıkle olup gıtcem bılıyorum yıne omıcaksın yanımda It didn´t happen, it will not. All these pains,all pains i suffered are in vain. I will die in being without you. I know you will not be near me again.  bu gece yoklugunu sıcak bı mermı gıbı hıssettım yuregımde ve yıne yoksn ıste.............. I felt your absence like a hot bullet in my heart and you are absent again.  sevıyorum lan herseye ınat sevıyorum ıste varmı otesı......... I love you goddamn, i love you in spite of everything. Is there anything more than it?  sen sımdı yuvandasın aılenle ben nerdeyım hasan bılıyomusun mechullerdeyım You are now in your home with your family. Do you know where i am Hasan? I am in unknowns. yanlıslardayım I am in wrongs.  allahın cezası bı boslukta savasmaktayım I have been fighting in a goddamn hole  bu yurek sensız uc gece yasar kımseye bırakma sen al canımı.................... This heart can live only three nights without you. Kill me, don´t let anyone to do it. nalet olsunkı bana rezıllıkler ıcındeyım Goddamn it, i am in disgraces  kader dıyelım ve susalım bı gun kafama(?) Let´s say it faith and let´s be quiet. One day (to my head?)      My try, please somebody correct my mistakes.   It is a really really good poem. It is a bit slang but it is ok. Edited (4/2/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/2/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/2/2010) by gokuyum

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4956.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Apr 2010 Fri 09:02 am   Quoting britturk I am very nervous about meeting the family. I hope they will like me.  Aile ile tanışmak konusunda çok gerginim (heyecanlıyım). Umarım beni severler.   Edited (4/2/2010) by gokuyum

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4957.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Apr 2010 Fri 08:59 am   Quoting uymich    Herkesin iyi olmasına sevindim. Ben ´le görüsmüyoruz. O konuda fazla umutlanmasan iyi olur. Sen de türkçeni ilerletirsin.   I am happy that everyone is ok. I don´t talk with Ben. It is better for you not to become hopeful on that matter. You improve also your Turkish.   Note: "Ben görüşmüyoruz." is a gramatically wrong sentence. "Ben" is a person name in English.If Ben is a name, the sentence should be "Ben´le görüşmüyoruz." Also "ben" in Turkish means "i" if it is "i", it doesn´t make sense also. So i thought "Ben" is a person´s name. And i corrected the sentence.And i translated it. If i am wrong, tell me what it is. Have a nice day.   Edited (4/2/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/2/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/2/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/2/2010) by gokuyum

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4958.       gokuyum 5050 posts  02 Apr 2010 Fri 08:48 am   Quoting pap Could you please translate the sentence below into Turkish, for me please? Thanks a lot in advance.   "Sometimes İ want to be an angel in order to take care of you eventhough İ am so far away from you my soul would be there with you at your side".  Bazen seninle ilgilenmek için bir melek olmak istiyorum.Her ne kadar senden çok uzakta olsam da ruhum orada senin yanında olacaktır.   Edited (4/2/2010) by gokuyum

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4959.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Apr 2010 Thu 06:40 pm   Quoting sophiss Both your efforts are better than mine, thank you   How about these?   of pof afra tafra, bıktım oyuncu egosundan ah ugh big words, i got bored with the ego(s) of player(s)   off bu ne ya!semsıyenın gölgesinde,oyuncunun dengesinde durulmaz! Kaan sen üstüne alınma seni tenzih ediyorum Ahh what the hell is this? You should stay neither under the shadow of an umbrella  nor at the balance of a player.Kaan don´t assume it i don´t mean you.   Thanks  My try. I didn´t understand anything. They are completely slang.   Edited (4/1/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/1/2010) by gokuyum

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4960.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Apr 2010 Thu 06:15 pm   Quoting melek08 Everlasting Love Ebedi aşk    What is it about you? Nedir o şey sendeki?  That makes my stomach turn Oynatan yerinden midemi My heart beat fast Çarptıran güm güm  kalbimi  My mouth curl Kıvırtan ağzımı Is it your beautiful smile? Güzel gülümseyişin mi? Your sexy lips Seksi dudakların mı? The sweetness of your voice Sesinin tatlılığı mı? Or just what whisper me Veya sadece bana fısıldayan mı The many things we had and shared Sahip olduğumuz ve paylaştığımız onca şeyi ?   The sunsets Gün batımları The candlelight dinners Mum ışığında yemekler  Our passion and love Tutkumuz ve aşkımız  The ways we talked and laughed Konuştuğumuz ve güldüğümüz alışkanlıklarımız Were only dreams before we met Biz tanışmadan önce sadece rüya idi Now turned into reality Döndü gerçeğe şimdi How I wish this will last for eternity Nasıl da diliyorum sonsuza kadar sürmesini     My try.(Poetic but not far from literal) Hope it helps.   Note: The sentences which reflects effects of love like (my stomach turned, tr. midem altüst oldu) or (my mouth curled,tr: ağzım kıvrıldı or ağzım çarpıldı don´t have a positive meaning alone. These sentences are about disgust in Turkish. But we can understand what you trully mean according to context. So context is important in this matter. Edited (4/1/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/1/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/1/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/1/2010) by gokuyum

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4961.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Apr 2010 Thu 05:44 pm Ok. I will try

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4962.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Apr 2010 Thu 04:34 pm Thank you very much Marion.

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4963.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Apr 2010 Thu 04:28 pm Do you want a literal or poetic translation?

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4964.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Apr 2010 Thu 04:19 pm   Quoting melek08 Everlasting Love    What is it about you? That makes my stomach turn My heart beat fast My mouth curl Is it your beautiful smile? Your sexy lips The sweetness of your voice Or just what whisper me The many things we had and shared   The sunsets The candlelight dinners Our passion and love The ways we talked and laughed Were only dreams before we met Now turned into reality How I wish this will last for eternity    Wait for sonunda. If she doesn´t translate, i will.

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4965.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Apr 2010 Thu 04:11 pm   Quoting sonunda     I don´t know what a Turk would say. Maybe gokuyum will tell us?    You can answer as "sağol", " sağolasın", "amin" If the other one  is also in trouble you can answer as "senin de(yours too) " But let´s ask sonunda if my answer is correct,her Turkish is better than mine.     Edited (4/1/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/1/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/1/2010) by gokuyum

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4966.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Apr 2010 Thu 04:07 pm   Quoting zeytinne İlk yetkisiz kulanım süresi 01.05.2010 tarihinde sonra erecek Thank you    The first unauthorized usage time will end after 01.05.2010. Edited (4/1/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: E - T

4967.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Apr 2010 Thu 03:48 pm   Quoting melek08 Why I love you;  Seni seviyorum neden? I love you for so many reasons Seni seviyorum bir çok sebepten  Big and small Büyüğüne küçüğünden And all of them are wonderful. Hepsi de harikuladeler    I love you for all the special qualities Seni seviyorum tüm özel niteliklerin için  That make you one of a kind... Ki bunlardan ötürü türünün tek örneğisin The only one in the world for me. Dünyadaki tek kişisin benim için    I love you for the things you do Yaptığın şeyler için seni seviyorum  That bring such special meaning to my life Ki onlardır hayatıma özel anlam katan  I love you for the silent times Seni sessiz anların için seviyorum  When your eyes and arms tell me all I want to know Gözlerin ve kolların bana bilmek istediğimi anlattıkları zaman.   I love you Seni seviyorum  Just because I do Çünkü sadece seviyorum    Because now Çünkü şimdi (artık)  In the deepest part of my heart Kalbimin en derin kısmında  A place where there was nothing before Daha önce hiçbir şey olmayan bir mekanda  There is love. Aşk var     My try My translation is also poetic not literal Edited (4/1/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/1/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/1/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/1/2010) by gokuyum

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4968.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Apr 2010 Thu 03:17 pm   Quoting MarioninTurkey      No problem, I thought your translation was great.  Thank you MarioninTurkey.

Thread: Help me please...

4969.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Apr 2010 Thu 12:48 pm   Quoting sonunda I think mine was better!    Yours is more poetic.

Thread: E-T if someone can be so kind...thanks alot

4970.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Apr 2010 Thu 12:47 pm   Quoting sonunda      I told you "Your Turkish is even better than mine". There isn´t a bigger compliment in my dictionary as a Turkish teacher (not officially but in my mind) Edited (4/1/2010) by gokuyum

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4971.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Apr 2010 Thu 12:43 pm Thank you very much Marionin Turkey i modified it.

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4972.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Apr 2010 Thu 12:17 pm Thanks to harpoon and as always to lady in red. You are a good teacher lady in red even you don´t want to be

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4973.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Apr 2010 Thu 12:12 pm   Quoting sonunda     I chatted with you and got to know you, you were a sympathetic ear (or fellow sufferer),even in my sadness you made me aware,from far away, that you were sad for me, my love,my friend.   Or   I got acquinted and talked with you, you were a sympathetic ear (or fellow sufferer),even in my sadness you made me aware,from far away, that you were sad for me, my love,my friend.  How good it is that you exist!     My try

Thread: E-T if someone can be so kind...thanks alot

4974.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Apr 2010 Thu 11:58 am   Quoting harp00n Opps. Im sorry Gokuyum. I havent seen your post.    Yours are better than mine. I have a question what does it mean take you up on your offer? I thought "take you up" as " seni almak" and "on your offer" as "isteğin üzerine". Thanks in advance. Edited (4/1/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/1/2010) by gokuyum

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4975.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Apr 2010 Thu 11:34 am Bir şey değil İyi günler. (Bu arada bazı hatalar olabilir.)

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4976.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Apr 2010 Thu 11:33 am   Quoting Nile69 Dear (whatever I would respectfully call an old aunt) I just wanted to say what an honour it was meeting you. You have a heart of gold and I hope that one day I will be able to take you up on your offer and visit your beautiful home. Take care, I hope that you can come again. Lots of love Anza and Nikita"""".    "Sevgili X Teyze" or more formal "Sevgili X hanım".  Sadece sizinle tanışmanın büyük bir onur olduğunu söylemek istedim. Altından bir kalbiniz var ve umarım bir gün sizin teklifiniz kabul edebilecek durumda olacağım ve güzel evinizi ziyaret edeceğim. Kendinize iyi bakın, umarım tekrar gelebilirsiniz. Çok çok sevgilerle Anza ve Nikita. Edited (4/1/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/1/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Makber (The Grave)

4977.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Apr 2010 Thu 09:54 am   Makber The Grave   Eyvah ne yer ne yâr kaldı Oh my God neither a place nor beloved remained Gönlüm dolu ah-u zâr kaldı My heart is filled with cries of moaning Şimdi buradaydı gitti elden Now she was here, she is gone Gitti ebede gelip ezelden She went to the eternity, coming from the pasteternity Ben gittim o haksar kaldı I went, she remained miserable Bir köşede tarumar kaldı She remained scatterred at a spot Baki o enisi dilden eyvah What remained from that bird of heart Beyrutta bir mezar kaldı Is a grave in Beirut   Bildir bana nerde nerde Yarab Tell me o God where she is. Kim attı beni bu derde Yarab Who threw me into this trouble o God? Nerde arayayım o dil rübayı Where should i search for the heart which took my heart ?  Kimden sorayım bi-nevayı Who should i ask for that poor? Derlerki unut o aşnayı They say “Forget that acquaintance” Gitti tutarak reh-i bekayı She went by taking the way of permanence   Sığsın mı hayale bu hakikat? Do i let this truth to fit into the imagination?   Görsün mü gözüm bu macerayı? Do i let my eyes to see this adventure? Sür´atle nasılda değişti halim How fast my situation changed Almaz bunu havsalam hayalim. I can’t understand it.   Çık Fatıma! lahteden kıyam et Come out Fatima! Arise from your  sarcophagus Yanımdaki haline devam et Go on near me where you left Ketm etme bu razı şöyle bir söz Don’t hide this secret, a word like that   Ben isterim ah öyle birsöz Ah i want a word like that Güller gibi meyl-i ibtisam et Smile like roses Dağı dile çare bul meram et Find a cure to this heart wound,intend Bir tatlı bakışla bir gülüşle With a sweet glance, with a sweet smile Eyyamı hayatımı temam et Complete the days of my life   Makber mi nedir şu gördüğüm yer? Is it a grave or what that i see? Ya böyle reva mı ey cay-ı dilber Do you deem me worthy of this  O! Place of beauty?   Abdülhak Hamit Tarhan (1857-1932)   Note: The poem is written in old Turkish.   My try. J   Edited (4/1/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/1/2010) by gokuyum

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4978.       gokuyum 5050 posts  01 Apr 2010 Thu 07:00 am I finished to translate it. hope it helps.

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4979.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Mar 2010 Wed 10:27 pm   Quoting melek08 You were faster than me gokuyum I am sorry I did not see yours. Well done.    You can help me finish it if you want. I will not go on untill tomorrow. If you have time you can continiue where i stopped.If you don´t no matter. Good night.

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4980.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Mar 2010 Wed 10:11 pm   Quoting Nile69 I can only be condemmed for i cared so much.    Sadece bu kadar çok değer verdiğim için kınanabilirim.

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4981.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Mar 2010 Wed 10:09 pm   Quoting yilgun-2010 ÇOCUKLUĞUMUZDA... In our childhood Bizim çocukluğumuzda annelerimiz çalışmazdı. Our mothers wouldn´t work in our childhood Okuldan eve geldiğimde boynumdaki anahtarla kapıyı hiç açmadım. I never opened the door when i came from school with the key that hanging on my neck Hatta Babanım bile anahtarı yoktu. Even my father didn´t have the key Annem evimizin bir parçası gibiydi, hep evdeydi. My mother was like a part of our home, she was always at home Her yere birlikte giderdik, zaten öyle çok da gidilecek bir yer yoktu ki..... We would go to everywhere together, anyway there wasn´t many place to go   En büyük eğlencemiz sokaklarda oynamaktı. Our greatest entertainment was to play in the streets.  Sokakta oynamak diye bir kavram vardı yani. There was a concept like "playing in the street" Cafelerde, alış veriş merkezlerinde buluşmazdık. We wouldn´t meet at shopping centers. Okula arkadaşlarımızla gider, birlikte çıkar, oynaya,zıplaya yürüyerek gelirdik. We would go to school with our friends, would go out together,we would come home hopping and skipping   Servis falan yoktu. Ayakkabılarımız eskirdi. There wasn´t schoolbus. Our shoes would become old. Hatta öyle olurdu ki; çantalarımızı kaldırımlara koyar oyuna bile dalardık. Sometimes we would even lose ourselves in the game after we had put our bags to sidewalks Annelerimiz bu durumu bildiklerinden kardeşlerimizle bizlere ekmek arası bir şeyler hazırlar gönderirdi. Our mothers would send us sandwiches by our brothers and sisters because they would know the situation Mahallemizdeki teyzeler Annemiz gibiydi.  The aunts who lived in our neighborhood were like our moms. Susayınca girer evlerine su içerdik. When we got thursty, we would enter their homes and would drink water. Ya da pencereden bize bir sürahi bir bardak uzatırlar,hepimiz aynı bardaktan kana kana içerdik. Or they would give us a decanter and a glass and we would drink from the same glass until we satisfied. Kısacacı evine gidip gelen (...ki;sadece çişi gelen giderdi evine)elinde mutlaka yiyecekle dönerdi.  In short who would  go to and come from his/her home (only the ones needed to pee would go to their home) absolutely would return with foods in their hands. Anneleri o arada çocuğuna verdiği şeyden bizlere de gönderirdi. Their mothers would send us what she gave her child at that time Bu bazen bir kurabiye, bazen bir meyve olurdu. This would be sometimes a cookie, sometimes a fruit. Cebimizde harçlığımız olduğunda düşmesin diye çıkarır çantamızın üstüne koyar oyun bitince geri alırdık. If we had money in our pockets we would not want it to fall out, so we would put it on top of our bags, and would pick it up again when the game was over. Çok garip ama kimse almazdı. Sokaklarımız evimiz kadar güvenli idi. It is so unusual but nobody would take it. Our streets were safe like our homes. Düşünce kaldırırlar, kavga edince barıştırırlardı bizi...  When we fell, they would make us stand up and would reconcile us when we fighted. Polisler gelmezdi kavgalarımıza, zabıtlar tutulmazdı. The policemen would never come to our fights, would never write down a report. Sonra kavgalarımız da öyle ustura, falçata ile olmaz,onlar nedir bilmezdik bile, asla kanla falan da bitmezdi, en fazla saçlarımızdan çeker, hayvan adları sayar, tekme atar, yine oyuna dalardık.  Then we wouldn´t fight with razors, curved knifes. We wouldn´t know what they were.Our fights would never end with blood. At most we would pull each other´s hair, we would call each other by animal names and we would lose ourselves in the game again. Birbirimizin suyundan içer, elmasına diş atardık. We would drink each other´s water and would bite each other´s apple. Misket oynamaktan parmaklarımız kanar yine de mikrop kapmazdık. Our fingers would bleed because of playing marble but we would never get sick. Azar işitip, acillere taşınmazdık. Düşerdik ekmek çiğner basarlardı alnımıza, oyuna devam ederdik. Röntgenlere, ultrasonlara girmezdik. We would never be carried to emergency services by hearing reproach. We would fell and they would step our foreheads on like chewing bread but we would go on  playing. We wouldn´t go to roentgens and to ultrasons. Ben bizim çocukluğumuzu çok özledim. I missed our childhood very much. Sokaklarımız ruhsuzlaştı sanki. I think our streets became soulless.   Komşumu tanımıyorum ama evinin camında, temizliğe gelen kadını haftada bir görür kolay gelsin der konuşurum. I don´t know my neighbor but i see the woman who came for cleaning at the window once a week and i say "May it be easy." and talk. Onun dışında orada kim oturur hiç bilmem. Other than that i don´t know who lives there.  Evimizi kendimiz temizlerdik, kapı silmece; bilmem kaç kuruş hepimizin elinde bezler güle oynaya bitirirdik işleri. We would clean our homes ourselves, cleaning doors, i don´t know how much money was in our hands but we would finish our jobs happily. Evlerimiz var, içinde yaşayan yok. We have houses but nobody lives in them.   Parklarımız var, içinde oynayan çocuk yok. We have parks but no children plays in them. Ama her yıl sökülüp yenilenen kaldırımlar, lüks binalar, ışıl ışıl vitrinler, girip çıkan yapay insanlar... But every year pulled out and reconditioned sidewalks, luxe buildings, shining shopwindows, and artificial people who enters and goes out.   Ruh yok, buz gibi buz, bu biz değiliz..  There is no soul, it is like an ice, this is not us. Tahta iskemlelerimizde oturan yaşlılarımız, onlara dede, nene diye hatırını soran çocuklarımız yok oldu. Our old-timers who sat down on the wooden chairs,and children who called them grandfather, grandmother has disappeared. Ben kapılarında ´vale´lerin, ´bady´lerin beklediği yerlerden hep korkmuş çekinmişimdir. I am always afraid of and feared the places which vales and bodyguards wait at their doors Kapısını çarparak örtüyor diye çocuğuna kızıp, taksidini bitiremediği arabanın anahtarını, hiç tanımadığı birine vermek ters gelir bana. It seems wrong for a person  to give the key of the car which he hasn´t finished its payment to another person whom he/she has never known because he got angry to  his/her child because her/his child shut the door by slamming.  Benim değildir bu kültür. This culture isn´t my culture. Ne ruhuma, ne kültürüme ne de cüzdanıma hitap eder. Nedir bunlar?   It addresses neither to my soul nor my culture and also nor my vallet. What are these? Reklamlarla desteklenen beyni, ruhu ele geçirilmiş insanlar olduk.  We became people whose brains are supported by commercials and whose souls were captured. Birbirimize yabancı, yalnızlıklarımızla yaşar olduk. We became strangers to eachother and we used to live with our lonelinesses. İyi de neden böyle olduk ? But why have we become like that?  Biz mi istemiştik? Had we wanted it? Yoksa birileri mi böyle istedi?.. Or somebody wanted it that way. ´Her toplum hakettiği gibi yönetilir´derler ya, hakettiği gibi de yaşar diyelim mi?    They say every society is administired according to what it deserves or do we say lives according to what it deserves?                          My try corrections needed. Edited (3/31/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/31/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/31/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/1/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/1/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/1/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/1/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/1/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/1/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/1/2010) by gokuyum

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4982.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Mar 2010 Wed 09:25 pm I can and i will. Tonight maybe tomorrow.

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4983.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Mar 2010 Wed 09:17 pm   Quoting sonunda      Are you sure now? hehe    Don´t be sure untill 5.

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4984.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Mar 2010 Wed 08:08 pm   Quoting sonunda Thanks gokuyum.  I modified it. Please check again.

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4985.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Mar 2010 Wed 08:03 pm   Quoting sonunda      Something like-(Tell him/her "walk dude,you have a road (as far as )from London to Brighton.") hahahaha name you are my idol.   My try    No offence Edited (3/31/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/31/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/31/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: turkish - english

4986.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Mar 2010 Wed 07:54 pm   Quoting ..Laulau.. i tried translating this myself as i havent got a clue what it is about, but i cant make sense of it: SÖYLENECEK SÖZLER SÖYLENDİ. GÖRÜLECEK OLAYLAR GÖRÜLDÜ. ŞİMDİ SIRA YASAMAKTA; YAŞANABİLİRSE BU YALAN DÜNYADA. YA ÖLÜM YA KALIM. BU İKİ ÇİZGİDEN BİRİ ÇARE. YA DA KENDİNİ KANDIRICAKSIN SADECE. SEN BİR HİÇTİN VE HEP ÖYLE KALACAKSIN. The words meant to be said was said, the events meant to be seen was seen, now it is time for living if one can live in this hollow world.Either death or life, only one of these two lines is a solution (or cure).Or you will deceive yourself. You were nothing and you will remain that way.   thanks in advance    Corrections needed. I modified my translation and the orginal text. Edited (3/31/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/31/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/31/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: E-T please

4987.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Mar 2010 Wed 07:40 pm I modified it again. It was about past/simple tense confusion.

Thread: E-T please

4988.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Mar 2010 Wed 07:23 pm   Quoting zeytinne You think it was true love Sence o gerçek aşktı I think it was a foolishness. Bence bir aptallıktı But what exactly really was Ama gerçekte neydi What we wanted to be Ne olmasını istedik We`ll never know. Hiçbir zaman bilemeyeceğiz   It was a dream.. Bir rüyaydı A verse Bir ayetti A song Bir şarkıydı That we have never sang... hiç söylemediğimiz   Do you think it was true love? Sence gerçek aşk mıydı? I think it was a short foolishness.. Bence kısa bir aptallıktı     If somebody can translate it to Turkish...and also to corect the English I will be greatfull.  Note 1: I think means "ben düşünürüm" but most of the time we Turks say "bence" or "düşünüyorum" instead of "ben düşünürüm"   Note2 : You think means "sen düşünürsün" sometimes we say "düşünürsün",sometimes we say "düşünüyorsun", sometimes  we say "sence" and sometimes we say "sanıyorsun". Context of the text or conversation is important.    I am calling lady in red and sonunda to correct me. You can even correct these last sentences if you want    I modified text and i added notes. Keep on checking this text please because i always modify my translations when i see a mistake.bye. Edited (3/31/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/31/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/31/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Tur - Eng

4989.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Mar 2010 Wed 06:56 pm haha i translated two poems today and it made me tired. But i think i am always this way. I am a stargazer person. Don´t blame me because of my nature.

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4990.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Mar 2010 Wed 06:52 pm haha i feel ashamed. I tried to correct you but you corrected me at the end.

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4991.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Mar 2010 Wed 06:46 pm   Quoting sonunda I thought bilki was a typo for belki.   It also says ´bir gece´ not ´bir gün´   Thanks anyway.    You are right. Your Turkish is even better than mine. By the way i am really a stargazer person. Edited (3/31/2010) by gokuyum

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4992.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Mar 2010 Wed 06:21 pm   Quoting sonunda Eğer bir gece parlak bir ışık görürsen rüyanda, Bilki o, aşkınla yanan kalbimdir çok uzaklarda   If tonight (one night),you see in your dreams,a brilliant light Maybe (Know) that,(it) is my heart shining (burning is better) with your love,very far away.       I hope someone can fill in the gaps. Belki means "maybe" Bil ki means "know (that)"     Your turkish is nearly perfect. Edited (3/31/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/31/2010) by gokuyum

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4993.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Mar 2010 Wed 06:16 pm  My try Özlemin yüreğimde, mühürlenmişim bir kere ruhuna, Your longing is in my heart, i was sealed to your soul for one time Gittiğinde ardından, dönse ne olur ki artık bu zalim dünya? After you have gone, what is the point of this cruel world turning?   Cenk..     şimdiden teşekkürler..     Edited (3/31/2010) by gokuyum Edited (4/1/2010) by gokuyum

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4994.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Mar 2010 Wed 06:00 pm   Quoting goldiemazda99 inşallah bende seni ozaman görmeye geleceğim fırsatım olursa    Hopefully i will come to see you at that time if i have oppurtunity. Edited (3/31/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Selam verdim rüşvet değildir diye almadılar

4995.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Mar 2010 Wed 05:51 pm   Quoting scalpel      maybe "opinion" can be a better choice for "hüküm" here    Scalpel thank you very much for checking my translation. I realy appreciate it. And doesn´t opinion mean "fikir, görüş"? Does it have a secondary meaning as "hüküm, karar". ? "Benim hükmüm" means "my decision" but we can translate it also as "my opinion". But according to poem´s context hüküm means sentence, decision, judgement. What do the native English speakers think about this matter? Edited (3/31/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/31/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/31/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Selam verdim rüşvet değildir diye almadılar

4996.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Mar 2010 Wed 04:54 pm   Selam verdim rüşvet değildir diye almadılar            I greeted them (tr: gave a greeting), they didn’t take it because it was not a bribe.   Selam verdim, rüşvet değildir diye almadılar. I greeted them (tr: gave a greeting), they didn’t take it because it was not a bribe    Hüküm gösterdim, faydasızdır diye iltifat etmediler. I showed them the sentence, they weren´t interested in because it was useless.    Eğerçi görünürde itaat eder gibi davrandılar ama bütün sorduklarıma hal diliyle karşılık verdiler. In appearance they behaved like they obeyed but they answered all my questions by body language   Dedim: - Ey arkadaşlar, bu ne yanlış iştir, bu ne yüz asıklığıdır? I told: “O my friends, what a wrong behaviour (tr:wrong doing) this is. What is this displeasure seen on your face?”   Dediler: - Bizim adetimiz böyledir. They told: -“Our custom is that way.”   Dedim: - Benim riayetimi gerekli görmüşler ve bana tekaüt beratı vermişler ki ondan her zaman pay alam ve padişaha gönül rahatlığı ile dua kılam. I told  “They had decided my obedience was necessary and they had given me a retirement franchise so i would take a share from it and i would pray for Sultan with an iner calm.”   Dediler: - Ey zavallı! Sana zulüm etmişler ve gidip gelme sermayesi vermişler ki, daima faydasız mücadele edesin ve uğursuz yüzler görüp sert sözler işitesin. They told: “O you poor! They had harmed you and they had given you a capital for going and coming so you would  struggle and you would see  evil faces and you would hear harsh words.”   Dedim: - Beratımın gereği niçin yerine gelmez? I told: - “Why don’t you fulfill the requirements of my franchise?   Dediler: - Zevaittir, husulü mümkün olmaz. They told: -“ It is an overplus. It isn’t possible to come true."   Dedim: - Böyle evkaf zevaidsiz olur mu? I told: “ Could foundations become without overpluses?”   Dediler: - Asitanenin masraflarından artarsa bizden kalır mı? They told: “ If it remains from the goverment’s expenses, can it remain from us?”   Dedim: - Vakıf malın dilediği gibi kullanmak vebaldir. I told: “ It is a sin using foundation’s goods for one as he wish”   Dediler: - Akçamız ile satın almışız, bize helaldir. They told “ We had bought it with our money, it is helal for us.”   Dedim: - Hesaba alsalar bu tuttuğunuz yolun fesadı bulunur. I told: “ If they reckon they can find the harm of your way”   Dediler: - Bu hesap, kıyamette sorulur. They told: “ We can be called to account only in doomsday”   Dedim: - Dünyada dahi hesap olur, haberin işitmişiz. I told:” You can be called to account in earth, I heard.”   Dediler: - Ondan dahi korkumuz yoktur, katipleri razı etmişiz. They told: “ We don’t be afraid of that, we persuaded the clerks."   Gördüm ki sualime cevaptan başka nesne vermezler ve bu berat ile hacetim kılmağın reva görmezler, çaresiz mücadeleyi terk ettim ve mey´us ü mahrum guşe-i uzletime çekildim. I understood that they would give me nothing other than answers to my questions and they would not let met fulfill my wish with that franchise, i gave up strugling and i quited to my loneliness place sorrowful and deprived.   Fuzuli (1483-1556)   Note. tr means literally in Turkish   (My try) (corrections needed) A satire about corruption of  government officials and bribary in 16. century the brightes times of Ottoman   Note: Some thinks Fuzuli is the greatest Turkish poet of all times.       Edited (3/31/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/31/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/31/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/31/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/31/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/31/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/31/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/31/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Şeytan bunun neresinde? (Where is devil in it?)

4997.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Mar 2010 Wed 02:33 pm Thank you henry. Yours sounds better than mine. Edited (3/31/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Şeytan bunun neresinde? (Where is devil in it?)

4998.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Mar 2010 Wed 02:18 pm Thank you scalpel and lady in red for your help. I will add this poem to my profile as my favourite poem.

Thread: Şeytan bunun neresinde? (Where is devil in it?)

4999.       gokuyum 5050 posts  31 Mar 2010 Wed 12:45 pm Şeytan bunun neresinde? Where is the devil in it? Telli sazdır bunun adı The name of it is stringed instrument Ne âyet dinler ne kadı It listens to neither verse nor kadi (muslim judge) Bunu çalan anlar kendi He/she understands who plays it Şeytân bunun neresinde Where is the devil in it? (an idiom) Abdest alsan aldın demez If you perform an ablution, it doesnt say “ you did” Namaz kılsan kıldın demez If you perform a prayer, it doesn’t say “you did” Müftü gibi haram yemez It doesn’t get things illegally like mufti (the one gives fetwas) Şeytan bunun neresinde Where is the devil in it? Dut ağacından teknesi Its belly is made of mulberry tree Kirişten bağlı perdesi It´s key tied from catgut Behey insanın teresi Hey you b….d of a human Şeytan bunun neresinde Where is the devil in it? Dertli gibi sarıksızdır It is turbanless like Dertli Ayağı da çarıksızdır Its foot is also shoeless Boynuzu yok kuyruksuzdur It hasn’t got a horn, it is tailless Şeytan bunun neresinde.. Where is the devil in it? Dertli (1772-1845) My try. (corrections needed)I like this poem. It criticizes the approach of reverends of that age about music Edited (3/31/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/31/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/31/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/31/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/31/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/31/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/31/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/31/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/31/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Dön Artýk Sevgilim

5000.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Mar 2010 Tue 11:37 am

Thread: Asli Gungor - Son Opucuk

5001.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Mar 2010 Tue 11:28 am     Edited (3/30/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Dön Artýk Sevgilim

5002.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Mar 2010 Tue 10:47 am Thank you lady in red for your corrections. i modified it.

Thread: Dön Artýk Sevgilim

5003.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Mar 2010 Tue 09:45 am   Quoting Elif--x Sensizliği yazdım sensiz kaldığım gecelere I wrote being without you in the nights when i was without you  Yalnızlığımı yazdım bir köşeye sen yoksun diye I wrote my loneliness to a corner (an idiom) because you were absent  Umutlarımı yazdım içime belki bana dönersin diye I wrote my hopes inside me maybe you would return to me   Ve bir de öfkemi yazdım ya dönmezse diye And i also wrote my  anger if he/she wouldn´t return   Unutmak için sevmemiştim ben seni I didn´t love you to forget  Sevmesem unuturdum zaten seni If i didn´t love you, i would forget you Düşünmeden duramıyorum seni I can´t exist without thinking of you  Anlasana artık hala seviyoum seni Understand it, i love you still    Sensiz her şey boşmuş bu hayatta Everything in this life was in vain without you Ölüm günüm bugünmüş benim Today was my death day  Artık ecel gelse neye yarar From now on if the death comes, what is the use of it?  Sen artık başka ellerde You are now in other hands (an idiom)    Öyle özledim ki gülüşünü I missed your smile so much Öyle özledim ki sana sarılmayı, koklamayı I missed so much hugging you and smelling you  Öyle özledim ki sana doyana kadar bakmayı I missed so much looking at you untill i satisfy Anlasana artık hala seviyorum seni Understand it, i love you still.    And if somebody could translate to english also please    My try (corrections needed) I was very sleepy Edited (3/30/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/30/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/30/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/30/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/30/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/30/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/30/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Önundur

5004.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Mar 2010 Tue 07:55 am   Quoting Bea Blanchi     My try as learner, I am not sure this is correct:   ön (front/in front/preliminary/primary)-ün (genitive case)-dür (suffix dür) (correct)   I think the meaning may be ´from the front´(means "önden"), or may be ´at first´(means önce, ilkönce)..... please wait for people more knowledgeable here.   I Tried to help anyway (in this way, I´ll also learn!). (You are right. Without trying you can´t learn anything.)     Edited (3/30/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Önundur

5005.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Mar 2010 Tue 07:48 am   Quoting Selim bey Could you please explain the word ´önündür´ to me? What does it mean and how is it formed?    "Önündür" means this is your front.

Thread: Allı Turnam Var Göç Eyle(Luc Bat -Viet Nam)

5006.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Mar 2010 Tue 06:13 am   Quoting vuslati Allı Turnam Var, Göç Eyle  My red wearing crane, go, migrate.   Allı turnam var, göç eyle,  My red wearing crane, go, migrate,  Bul, derdimi yâre söyle, vay ki vay!  Find, tell my love my trouble, woe is me,woe! Minnetimi, bir emir say  Consider my gratefulness as an order Bekler belki cemâli ay, gözde yaş.  Maybe she waits, the beauty of moon, with tears in her eyes. Kirpiği ok, hilâli kaş,  Her eyelash is an arrow, her crescent is an eyebrow  Bağrım yanık, sinemde taş, sızım var. My heart is burned(hurts) (an idiom), there is a stone in my bosom (an idiom), i have pain  Gönül kırgın, yürekte har My soul is sore, there is a heat in my heart Bu yurt, olmuş bana mezar, narım ben. This homeland had become a grave for me, i am fire.  Çifte benli, esmerdir ten, Her skin has two moles and it is brown.  Dişler inci, gör derdi şen, gönlü ham. Her teeth are like pearls,she used to say "see" happily, her heart is unrefined   Kalmış mı o naz, o endam? Had it remained, that coyness, that figure?  Götür tez elden bir selam, durma hey! Take quickly a greeting to her, don´t stop hey!   Götür tez elden bir selam, durma hey! Take quickly a greeting to her, don´t stop hey!   Allı turnam, var göç eyle... My red wearing crane, go, migrate,  Osman Öcal    My try, I added comas to make the meaning more clear. Thanks to lady in red for her corrections Edited (3/30/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/30/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/30/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/30/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/30/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/30/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: E to T please

5007.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Mar 2010 Tue 03:25 am   Quoting petros555 Could someone please translate the following text for me?  Thank you.   I am sorry to hear of your troubles.  I want to encourage you, though, to remain strong in your faith.  I am praying for you and for your family.    Sıkıntılarını duyduğuma üzüldüm. Seni cesaretlendirmeyi, buna karşın senden inancına sıkıca sarılmanı istiyorum. Sen ve ailen için dua ediyorum. Edited (3/30/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Neyime Gerek(GÜLCE-YUNUSCA)

5008.       gokuyum 5050 posts  30 Mar 2010 Tue 02:19 am   Quoting vuslati Neyime Gerek(GÜLCE-YUNUSCA)/ What use has it for me? ( I don´t need it )  Diyar diyar post sererim, I lay pelt in everywhere (an idiom)  Lokman için bal dererim, For Lokman i pick up honey  Her çiçeğe yüz sürerim, I bow to every flower  Zakkum neme benim, neyime gerek. What use has oleander for me? What use has it for me? İlahi aşk var sazımda, There is divine love in my instrument Coşup gider avazımda, It overflows in my shout Hak lokması boğazımda, The morsel of the right is in my throat (an idiom)  Zıkkım neme benim, neyime gerek. What use has oleander for me? What use has it for me? Gülistanın bir şalıyım, I am a shawl of rosery Yâre giden gül dalıyım, I am a rose branch goes to lover  Yoksulların pür halıyım, I am the pure state of poors  Tok kim neme benim, neyime gerek. Who is satiated? What use has it for me?  What use has it for me? Onca uzun yılı aşkın, For many long years Bentlerini yıkar taşkın, Flood breaks the barrages down Fidan fidan sürer ışkın,Your love plows(or "continue) from one sapling to another  Sak kim neme benim, neyime gerek. Who is sharp? What use has it for me? What use has it for me? Eksenimde döner hâlem, On my axis spins my halo Umudumdur bizim âlem, It is my hope, the universe Her karayı yazar kalem, The pen writes every dark Ak kim neme benim, neyime gerek. Who is white? What use has it for me? What use has it for me? Karanlığı boğsun hilâl, Let the crescent chokes the darkness Vuslatî’de yoktur melal, Vuslati doesn´t have boredom Varsa kimde olsun helal, Let it be helal for who has it Hakkım neme benim, neyime gerek. What use has my right for me? What use has it for me? Osman Öcal   Note: "Lokman" is a legendary doctor. Some believes he was a prophet. It is believed that he found the the herb of immortality but he lost it without using it.  My try, corrections needed.   Edited (3/30/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/30/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/30/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/30/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/30/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/30/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/30/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/30/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: T to E my attempt :-)

5009.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Mar 2010 Mon 11:19 am   Quoting melek08 Cevap verirsen My attempt    It is correct. You can translate it also "yanıtlarsan".

Thread: Sevdalar

Sevdalar  The Loves   Sevdalar The loves  Her gönülde ayrı renkte bitiyor, They sprout differently in every heart  Sır yüklüdür, çözülmemiş sevdalar. They are filled with secrets, unsolved loves.  Gözlerimde buram buram tütüyor, I longed greatly for Türküleri yazılmamış sevdalar. The loves which their songs weren´t written.  Bir taraf sönerken yanar ötesi, While one side is dying down, other side burns out.  Bir taraf habersiz tanır ötesi, One side recognizes further unawarely Sevdalarım vardı sınır ötesi, There were my loves which are transfortier Gurbet kaldı gezilmemiş sevdalar. They remained homesick, the loves which weren´t wandered.  Sevdalar yamaçta özlüyor düzü, Loves are missing levels while they are at the hillsides.  Sönmez ama belki küllenir közü, It doesn´t die down, but maybe slows down  Doludur gözleri, soluktur yüzü, Its eyes filled with tears, its face is pale  Hangi çağda üzülmemiş sevdalar? At which age hadn´t loves felt sad? Kimisinin tarlasında ekinmiş,  It had been crop at the farm of someone Kilimlerde motif motif dokunmuş, It had been weaved by motifs in the rugs Destan olmuş, dilden dile okunmuş, It had become epic, it had been sung from tongue to tongue (it is an idiom)  Hiçbir zaman ezilmemiş sevdalar.The loves had never been crushed.  Bazısı karadır, yüreği çöker, Some of it is black, some of its heart collapses  Bazısı dumandır dağlara çeker, Some of it is smoke which takes (you) to mountains  Bazısı diyemez boynunu büker, Some of it can´t say, they abase themselves  Daha çoktur çözülmemiş sevdalar. It is even more, unsolved loves. Birinde nazlıdır çiçek misali, At one it is coy like a flower  Birinde oynaktır köçek misali, At one it is frivolous like a dancer  Havada, karada böcek misali, Like a bug in the sky, in the earth  Bir kararda dizilmemiş sevdalar. Loves hadn´t aligned in a stability  Sevdalar var sırma saçta ve kaşta, There are loves on golden hair, on eyebrow  Sevdalar var derin derin bakışta, There are loves in deep deep looks  Sevdalar var çeyizdeki nakışta, There are loves in embroidery in the trousseau  Antikadır, kazılmamış sevdalar The loves hadn´t been digged are the antiques. Sevdalı sevdanın elinden nider, What can lover do in the love´s hand ? Ataroğlu bile elinde heder, Even Ataroğlu is loss in its hand  Benimle beraber mezara gider, They go to grave with me (it is an idiom) Ambalajı bozulmamış sevdalar. The loves which their package hadn´t been harmed.     Mehmet Atar      My try, corrections needed Edited (3/29/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/29/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/29/2010) by gokuyum 5010.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Mar 2010 Mon 08:22 am   Quoting halemdar

Thread: Translate plz

5011.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Mar 2010 Mon 07:52 am   Quoting Turkwife valla neden olmasın web tasarim bilgisayar kullanmaktan cok goze hitap eden seyleri bir arada sunmak, yaparsin tabi, hacinin aq )))))    I think why not? Web designing is to present something together which is more esthetic than using computer. You can do of course. F....k Hacı. Edited (3/29/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: help

5012.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Mar 2010 Mon 07:46 am   Quoting Turkwife nerelerdesin? sesin solugun cikmio... ceo(rebecca ile bi adam daha) gelcekmis buraya bizi ziyarete.. james size de ole bisi dedimi?    Where are u? You don´t speak.(I heard) Ceo (another man with Rebecca) will come here to visit us. Did James also tell you such a thing?

Thread: please translate

5013.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Mar 2010 Mon 07:42 am   Quoting Turkwife napim yaa isteyim..bildigin gibi...haziranda trye gidiyomussunuz yine james soledi...ben de mayis ortasi gibi bi ay izin aliyorum hizlandrilmis doneme katilcam hergun okula gitmem gerekiyo..haftaya biri gelcekmis training vericem..ben yokken yerime bakcak iste.. anlat bisiler yaa yokmu bi gelisme havadis mujde falan    My try   What do i do? I am at work as you know. James told again that you are going to go to Turkey in June. I will obtain permission in the middle of May, i will join accelerated semester. I have to go to school every day. (I heard) someone will come. I will give training. He will act for me when i am absent. Tell me something, isn´t there any development, news, good news, etc...

Thread: from T to E :)

5014.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Mar 2010 Mon 02:01 am   Quoting LilDuuda merhaba can someone translate this songs lyric Uzak olursan bana hergün her an../ If you are far from me Süphe doluyor içim.. / I am filling with doubts Bir gün gidersen aldatirsan diye / That if you go, if you cheat me one day Çarpiyor yine kalbim.. /My heart beats again Bunlarin hepsi ask içinde olabilirmi / Can it be all these in love? Korkmasam seni sevmekten.. / I wish i didn´t scare of loving you Düsünmesem sonunu senle ölsem / I wish i didn´t think the end, i wish i died with you Her aninda yaninda olabilsem.. I wish i could be with you in all your moments Bir anini bile kaçirmasam.. I wish i didn´t miss even one moment of you Her bir süphe yakiyor aldanirsam ya biterse.. Every doubt burns (hurts), if i am deceived, if it ends Yalansa bütün sözlerin.. If all of your words are lies Ah bir inansam güvensem sana Ah i wish i trusted you Son bulsa kötü düslerim i wish my bad dreams ended Bunlarin hepsi ask içinde olabilirmi.. All of these can be in love?    My try. corrections appreciated Edited (3/29/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/29/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Please translate Göksel Saadet şerbeti to English

5015.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Mar 2010 Mon 01:32 am   Quoting lady in red A few corrections to your, otherwise, very good English   Quoting gokuyum  My try, waiting for corrections   Göksel - Saadet Şerbeti Göksel - Happiness Sherbet Saadet şerbetini içtik beraber,/We drank happiness sherbet together  Olduk derbeder / We became vagabond (´vagabond´ is a bit odd but I can´t find another word that fits) Aşkın mevsiminde biz kelebekler / In the season of love, we are butterflies Dünyadan bihaber/ Unaware of the world  Aklım uçtu gitti benden/ My mind flied flew away from me  Kalbime teslim bu beden / To my heart surrenders this body (´This body surrenders to my heart´ is better in English) İçip te aşk şerbetinden/ After drinking love sherbet  Geçmeyen yok ki kendinden/ There isn´t one who doesn´t faint Fazla mutluluk beni hep korkuturdu Too Much happiness always scared me  Sonunda olan oldu / At In the end it happened  Önce ayaklarım kesildi yerden /First my feet lost touch from with the ground  Savurdu dibe vurdu/ It scattered, it falled fell into a bad situaion Aklım uçtu gitti benden/ My mind flied flew away from me  Kalbime teslim bu beden/ This body surrenders to my heart İçip te aşk şerbetinden/ After drinking love sherbet  Geçmeyen yok ki kendinden/ There isnt one who doesn´t faint.      Thank you very much. I learn from my mistakes. Edited (3/29/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: please translate

5016.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Mar 2010 Mon 01:27 am   Quoting Turkwife bize geldiler, sirketin sahipleri onlar. craig zaten ayni james e benzio makara insanlar ben iste sefligi biraktiktan sonra cok rahatladim valla hersey cok daha guzel sn nabiyon?  My try    They came to us. They are the owners of the company. Craig resembles Jame. They are funny people. I feel relieved after i quit being chief.Everything is more beautiful. What are you doing?

Thread: Translate plz

5017.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Mar 2010 Mon 01:18 am   Quoting Turkwife ben bulamamistim ki eski karimi, iste ajan tuttum gene bulamadim diye bir kagit verdim hakime o kadar. hem corina seni bulsa ne olur! wendy de yakinda pes eder baska bir eyalete gitsen ne yapabilirki. ben anliyorum seni, sen gelmek istemiyon ama ihtimaller acik olsun istiyon  My try    I couldn´t find my old wife.I gave a paper to judge explaining that I hired an agent, even i couldn´t find her. What will change even Corina finds her? Wendy gives up soon. What can he/she do if you go to another state? I understand you, you don´t want to come. You want possibilities to be open (or clear).

Thread: Translate plz

5018.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Mar 2010 Mon 01:12 am   Quoting Turkwife valla ne istedigimi bende bimiom, bi ytandan diom gitsen ne olcak yine eskisi gibi kalsan ne olcak acaba? bilinmezlik dandik bi olay. wendyden bayagidir ses yok zaten bakalim, su mengu bi bi cvp versin, benim fikirlerim cabuk degisir bilion  My try    God is my witness i don´t know too what to do. I am thinking what will happen if you go or what will happen if you don´t. Obscurity is a dud thing. I haven´t heard from Wendy for a long time.Let that Mengü answers me.My ideas change quickly. You know.

Thread: Translate plz

5019.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Mar 2010 Mon 01:05 am   Quoting Turkwife takma kafana tokadan baska  My try   Put nothing on your head instead of buckle.

Thread: Please translate Göksel Saadet şerbeti to English

5020.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Mar 2010 Mon 01:00 am   Quoting whodart Can anyone translate this for me please? Good music and helps me with Turkish language lessons.   Dave E  My try, waiting for corrections   Göksel - Saadet Şerbeti Göksel - Happiness Sherbet Saadet şerbetini içtik beraber,/We drank together happiness sherbet  Olduk derbeder / We became vagabond Aşkın mevsiminde biz kelebekler / In the season of love, we butterflies Dünyadan bihaber/ Unaware of world  Aklım uçtu gitti benden/ My mind flied away from me  Kalbime teslim bu beden / To my heart surrenders this body  İçip te aşk şerbetinden/ After drinking love sherbet  Geçmeyen yok ki kendinden/ There isn´t one who doesn´t faint Fazla mutluluk beni hep korkuturdu Much happiness always scared me  Sonunda olan oldu / At the end it happined  Önce ayaklarım kesildi yerden /First my feet lost touch from ground  Savurdu dibe vurdu/ It scattered, it falled into a bad situaion Aklım uçtu gitti benden/ My mind flied away from me  Kalbime teslim bu beden/ To my heart surrenders this body  İçip te aşk şerbetinden/ After drinking love sherbet  Geçmeyen yok ki kendinden/ There isnt one who doesn´t faint.

Thread: E-T please thank you

5021.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Mar 2010 Mon 12:30 am   Quoting snowhite Turkey is now a holiday for me, the home i bought is no longer mine and really was not mine from the start       thank you class     my try   Türkiye benim için artık bir tatil, satın aldığım ev artık benim değil ve zaten başından beri de gerçekte benim değildi. Edited (3/29/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: please can somebody help me?

5022.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Mar 2010 Mon 12:27 am   Quoting britturk Hello Serkan, Thanks for adding me. I hope we will meet when I visit Antalya. Im so excited about meeting Tuncays family, but Im also very nervous. How are you? I heard you are studying English perhaps I can help you? How is the weather in Antalya at the moment I am unsure and therefore dont know what type of clothes to pack. Take care  ..... My try    Merhaba Serkan, Beni eklediğin için teşekkürler. Umarım ben Antalya´yı ziyaret ettiğİmde görüşürüz. Tuncay´ın ailesi ile tanışmak konusunda çok heyecanlıyım, ama ayrıca da çok gerginim. Nasılsın? İngilizce çalıştığını duydum belki sana yardım edebilirim? Şu an Antalya´da havanın nasıl olduğu konusunda emin değilim bu nedenle ne tür elbiseleri paketlemem (valize koymam) gerek bilmiyorum. Kendine iyi bak...   Edited (3/29/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: turkish to english please.

5023.       gokuyum 5050 posts  29 Mar 2010 Mon 12:16 am   Quoting bella2509 Senin hasretin var ken bu sehirde yasanmaz.   my try   As long as the nostalgia of you exists, it isn´t possible for one (or "me") to live in this city.   Edited (3/29/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/29/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/29/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/29/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Sıla´nın ...Dan sonra lütfen İngilizce tercüme

5024.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Mar 2010 Sun 09:01 pm Thank you MarioninTurkey for corrections. I modified it. Edited (3/28/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Hopefully quick turkish to english translation? Thanks In advance

5025.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Mar 2010 Sun 02:17 am   Quoting bdminnesota oha lan, bizim koyun facebook sayfasi varmis..(Wow,dude. There is a facebook page of our village) o zaman beni koyumun yagmurlarinda yikasinlar..(Then let them wash me with the rains of my village) hatta daha da ileri gidiorum ve babamin cilgin fantezisini gerceklestirip ileride koyde dugun yapcagimi burdan ilan ediorum..(I am going one step further and here i announce that by doing my wedding at the village, i will fulfill my father´s crazy fantasy.) gelin adaylari mumkunse ata binip derenin ustunden gecmeye gonullu olsun..(If it is possible let the bride candidates volunteer to pass the brook by riding horse)  ebru ve pinar damadin ablalari olarak illa ki siz de gelceksinis (Ebru and Pınar, as the groom´s sisters, you will come too, no matter what)   Hayatta basarılar kardesim biz o sıralar ani bir kararla seninle olan akrabalık iliskimizi bir süreliğine askıya alır Bodrum´a tatile falan gideriz iyice manyadin olan aklını da kaybettin orada  I wish you luck my brother in life. At that time, with a sudden decision we will put our relationship aside, and go to Bodrum.You became crazy, you lost your mind there.   biz katılamayız valla emrahh, ne isimiz var, biz dogma buyume romaliyiz ne de olsa, gerci at binme kısmı zevkli olabilir We can´t attend Emrah, what job we have there? We are native-born Romans, though riding horse part can be enjoyable.     Edited (3/28/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/28/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/28/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/28/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/28/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/28/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/28/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/28/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: t to e lutfan

5026.       gokuyum 5050 posts  28 Mar 2010 Sun 12:29 am   Quoting gokuyum               My try as a native (Turkish)             At the very last geraniums wilted. You are there, i am here. My heart burns (hurts). This is not a seperation, this is death for me. Please don´t cry, i can´t hurt you. This love is hiding in me, don´t you go too. With pains can´t be such seperation. Why? Your all words are like soundless cries on your innocent face.Whether you say go or stay, my eyes fill with tears.On your innocent skin, in your tired hands there are always sadness,by every breath my eyes fill with tears. Don´t touch to my wounds, to dead-end roads in me, don´t do. By touching to my heart with your lips, don´t hurt it.Don´t hit my wounds. I wish it didn´t snow to my spring.Don´t do. By touching to my heart with your lips, don´t hurt it. At the very last geraniums wilted. And then he/she pitied to mouse and mouse immediately ran away.(I think this part doesn´t exist in the song)      I modified it.Hope it helps Edited (3/28/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/28/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/28/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/28/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/29/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Sıla´nın Bıktım lütfen İngilizce tercüme

5027.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Mar 2010 Sat 11:27 pm   Quoting whodart Bıktım  I am bored   Mumları yakıp biriyle şöyle romantik bir yemek yiyemedim ki By lighting candles, i couldn´t have a romantic dinner with anyone  Kıbleyle lafımızı şereflere erdiremedim. I couldn´t honor our words with qibla  Giyinemedim ona, dudağımı boyamadım I couldn´t dress myself for him, i couldn´t rouge.  Aşkın tarifini, püf noktasını özene bezene veremedim I couldn´t give the recipe of love, i couldn´t tell the trick by care.   Kaygılarımdan kurtularak aslını ima edemedim By freeing myself from my worries, i couldn´t hint at the truth. Havalandırıp havalandırıp konduramadım By  aerating, i couldn´t make it settled. Hem kendi gibi hem benim gibi birini denk getiremedim I couldn´t find the one even like himself, even like myself  at the right time Leb dedim de leblebiyi daha derinden işitemedim  I said "leb" but i didn´t hear "leblebi" deeply ( an idiom changed by writer) Bıktım artık aşk istiyorum I am bored i want love.    Hürriyetimden sıyrılarak kafes içinde barınamadım By pulling myself away from my freedom, I couldn´t shelter in a cage Mutlak mutluluğun sırrından sırra kadem bastım Because of the secret of absolute happiness, i dissapeared from sight.  Hem herkestim hem kimse değil; öyle şey olur mu I was even myself and even everybody. Can it be possible?  Kim bu tuzakta uyur? Bencil bir oyun bu Who sleeps in this trap? It is a selfish game.    Bıktım artık aşk istiyorum  I am bored, i want love Kovacaksınız Havva´nızı, paylaşmadan elmayı If you will expel your Eve without eating the apple  Bulun da gelin bari gerçek Adem´i At least find the real Adam and come.                    Teşekkürler,  Dave E      My try Edited (3/27/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/30/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Sıla´nın Cebren ve Hile ile lütfen İngilizce tercüme

5028.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Mar 2010 Sat 10:56 pm   Quoting whodart   Cebren ve hile ile  By force by cheating   İstiratteyim dinleniyorum I am at rest, i am resting  uzattım ayaklarımı I layed my feet  elimde kitap okuyorum A book in my hand, i am reading  başkalarının hayatlarını The lifes of others çok afedersiniz So sorry  yediğim ayva tok tuttu The quince i ate was filling  birşey yicek halim yok aç gözümde doydu I don´t have power to eat anything, my hungry eye was satisfied (it is an idiom)  cebren ve hile ile zaptedildim By force by cheating i was taken  yanlış fatih tarafınfan feth edildim By a false conqueror i was conquered. hikayem bu vallahi katledildim My story is this, God is my witness, i was murdered.  hep zaruri özel günler verilen günler Always indispensable special days, given days  kanuni isteksiz özürler Legal, unwilling apologies.    Teşekkürler,  Dave E    My try   Edited (3/27/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Sıla´nın ...Dan sonra lütfen İngilizce tercüme

5029.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Mar 2010 Sat 10:30 pm   Quoting whodart   ...Dan sonra  (after...)   Soldan kalktım bu sabah olamazmı I got out of the wrong side of the bed , couldn´t it be?  Terslendim bakkala çakkala olamaz mı I scolded grocers and the like, couldn´t it be?  Kudurttular belki beter oldum They made me mad maybe, i became worse  Hiç uyutmadı belki hayatımın sen gerçegi It didnt put me to sleep maybe, being you the truth of my life       Tek taraflı olur mu yani bu işler Can it be one sided, these relationships?  Yüzde elli haksızlık payın It is fifty percent,your  injustice share  Hababam dürter It prodes me always.  Yok rahat uyku No more comfortable  (easy) sleep  Mecbur kalkıp yakıcan bir sigara It is compelled to wake up and to burn (smoke) a cigarette.  Koyucan takkeyi tam ortaya You will put skullcap into exactly middle (It is an idiom)     Kendine güvenen şöyle gelsin The one who trusts himself/herself, let him/her come to that side  Bıraksın inadı dile gelsin Let him/her stop being stubborn and start to talk    Sözünden dönen namert çıksın Let he who breaks his word be revealed as despicable Bizde böyle bundan sonra It is that way for us henceforth  Kafayı düzelttim senden sonra I got my mind sorted out after you  Kendime yararım bundan sonra I´am only useful to myself henceforth  İster gelirim ister gelmem Whether i come or i don´t  Hesap mı vericez bundan sonra I don´t have to explain myself henceforth  Götüne güvenen şöyle gelsin Who trust in her/his  own ass,let him/her come  to that side Bıraksın inadı dile gelsin Let him/her stop being stubborn and start to talk   Sözünden dönen namert çıksın The one who break his/her own word,let him/her became a coward  Bizde böyle bundan sonra It is that way for us henceforth   Kafayı düzelttim senden sonra  I got my mind sorted out after you  Kendime yararım bundan sonra  I´am only useful to myself henceforth  İster gelirim ister gelmem Whether i come or i don´t   Hesap mı vericez bundan sonra  I don´t have to explain myself henceforth    Evet gözümün üstünde kaşım var Yes i have my eyebrow over my eye (it is an idiom) Hiç utanmıyorsun di mi You don´t be ashamed of yourself, don´t you?  Kavganın da adabı var Even there is a proper way to argue (fight)  Zerre kesmez seni It doesn´t even a bit satisfy you  Bu düz ayak sevmeler These banal lovings  Sende aksiyonsuz yaşanmıyor aşklar Without action it isnt possible loving for you    (Nakarat) (Repeat)   BİR :Hayat senin hayatın One: Life is your life.    İKİ :Vahşi biraz tabiatın Two: Your nature is a little wild   Sert lugatın şiddetli tavrın Your word is hard (rude), your manner is harsh  Huzur istedin ama yine bulamadın You wanted peace but again you couldn´t find it  Gül her son bir başlangıç Laugh, every end is a starting  Güle güle, Güle güle Good bye, Good bye  Kolay ilişki gelmez işine Easy relationship doesn´t suit your interests  Biliyorum seni I know you  Kaderin ellerinde sakın üzme kendini Your fate is in my hands, don´t upset yourself      Teşekkür Ederim      My try   It was difficult, i am waiting for corrections. Edited (3/27/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/28/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/28/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/28/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/28/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/28/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/28/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/28/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/28/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Sıla´nın Malum lütfen İngilizce tercüme

5030.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Mar 2010 Sat 09:35 pm   Quoting whodart   Malum It is known   Uzun zamandır kayıpsın artık cık nerelerdesin  You are lost for a long time;(now) arise; where are you?  aradım sordum kimleri yordum bilemezsin I searched, i asked, you can´t know who i made tired  kaderimle oynayacak kadar sevgilim olmuşsun meğer You became my lover enough to play with my fate.  ben seni kabullenmeyi ben yapmaya calışırken While i was trying to accept you , while i was trying to make you like me yokluğn çirkin de yapmış beni Your absence even made me ugly  gecen gün aynada gördüm tesadüfen By chance i saw at the mirror  malum ortada halim it is known, my situation is evidential eminim ben bu kadını ömrümde görmedim i am sure i haven´t seen that woman in my life  olur da duyarsan özür dilerim çok çok if by chance you hear it,i am very very sorry      olur da duyarsan özür dilerim çok if by chance you hear it, i am very sorry.     Teşekkürler,  Dave E     My try   Edited (3/27/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/27/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: T to e

5031.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Mar 2010 Sat 07:40 pm   Quoting karinalinares dokundugum her ten sensiz sessiz bir ben, ruhumun elindeki bir bardakta sek sen, uzandıgım her rüya seni getirdi bana, bunun adı düştür ya, sarılırdım doya doya, dün rezerve yaptırdım, kalbimin basucunda, tam camın kenarında, saat sana beş kala, gözlerim tülden bir perde, görmedi sen varken kimse, özlesem de seni her saniye, dakikalar sustu artık bende     my friend wrote this ..and now? does the mening change ?? thankss    No, it is same.

Thread: T to e

5032.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Mar 2010 Sat 03:34 am   Quoting karinalinares dokundugum her ten sensiz sessiz bir ben, ruhumun elindeki bir bardakta sek sen, uzandıgım her rüya seni getirdi bana, bunun adı düştür ya, sarılırdım doya doya, dün rezerve yaptırdım, kalbimin basucunda, tam camın kenarında, saat sana beş kala, gözlerim tülden bir perde, görmedi sen varken kimse, özlesem de seni her saniye, dakikalar sustu artık bende    My try    (According to comas i added, i am translating it.If comas are different from mines, the meaning can change.)   Every skin i touched is a me without you,without sound. You, you straight, in a glass, in the hand of my soul. Everything i reached to, brought you to me. The name of this is dream. I hugged it abundantly. I reserved at the zenith of my heart yesterday at the edge of my window, at 5 to you.My eyes are a net curtain, they didn´t see anybody when you are (here). Even i miss you every second,(from now on) the minutes shushed, at me Edited (3/27/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/27/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Ezginin Gunlugu - Dusler Sokagi

5033.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Mar 2010 Sat 03:00 am   Quoting elenagabriela Ben kuslardan da küçüktüm I was smaller than the birds bir gece vaktiydi It was night Ask tuttu elimden beni Love held my hands Geçtim düsler sokagindan bir gece vaktiydi I passed through the dreams street, it was night Ceplerimde haciyatmazlar Hacıyatmazlar at my pockets yagmur yagsa, uykum kaçsa If it rains, if i lose sleep bir kus konsa badi parmagima If a bird settles on my badi finger Aglardim bir basima I would cry all alone Sevdadandir, sevdadandir It is because of love, it is because of love sevdadandir dedi annem aldirma It is because of love said my mother, don´t mind Aldirma gel yanima Don´t mind, come near me Kaç mevsim ask pazarinda geçti yalanlarla How many seasons passed with lies in the bazaar of love? Düs sattim aldanmislara I sold dreams to deceived people Aklim kaçiverdi elimden bir gece vaktiydi My mind ran away from my hands suddenly, it was night Sevdigim baska sevenim baska The one i love is other, the one loves me is other Yagmur yagsa,uykum kaçsa If it rains, if i lose sleep Bir kus konsa badi parmagima If a bird settles on my badi finger aglardim bir basima I would cry all alone Sevdadandir, sevdadandir It is because of love, it is because love Sevdadandir dedi annem aldirma It is because of love said my mother, don´t mind Aldirma gel yanima Don´t mind, come near me. Note: 1) "badi" is a slang word, i don´t know the exact meaning, it can mean "small" 2) "hacıyatmaz" is a kind of toy   My try   Edited (3/27/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/27/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: E-TK please!

5034.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Mar 2010 Sat 02:38 am   Quoting sunny13 Please help me to translate this into Turkish and thank you in advance very much:     Thanks my friend!  I will place the notes into our files.  My dad has been very sick, but I may have to come to NC (North Carolina) to take care of something.  B and G have not been doing much better either. See you around,           Teşekkürler arkadaşım! Notları bizim dosyalara yerleştireceğim. Babam çok hastaydı ama ben Nc´ye (North Carolina´ya) bir şeylerle ilgilenmek için gelmek zorundaydım. B ve G de çok iyi yapmıyorlar (or "B ve G için de işler pek iyi değil"). Görüşürüz   Edited (3/27/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Zeki Müren - Seni Nasıl Sevdim

5035.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Mar 2010 Sat 02:26 am   Quoting elenagabriela Zeki Müren - Bulamazsın benim gibi seveni  Zeki Müren - You can´t find the one who loves like me   Ellere kanıpta gitme sevgilim, Don´t go by believing others, my love Hayat bu gün gelir harcarlar seni. This is life, when the day comes, they do you in Bir de saçlarına karlar yağınca, When it snows to your hair (when you get old) Eskimiz şal gibi atarlar seni. Like a old shawl, they throw you away Eğer gideceksen, mani olamam, If you will go, i can´t hinder you Düşersen sonunda yine bul beni. If you fall, again find me. Vefasız kullardan, vefa bekleme, Don´t expect loyalty from unloyal people Kıymetsiz bir pula satarlar seni. They sell you for a valueless coin Bulamazsın, bulamazsın, benim gibi seveni, You can´t find, you can´t find, the one who loves like me Bulamazsın, bulamazsın, seni mutlu edeni. You can´t find, you can´t find, the one who makes you happy Bulamazsın, bulamazsın, benim gibi seveni, You can´t find, you can´t find, the one who loves like me Bulamazsın, bulamazsın, senin için öleni. You can´t find, you can´t find, the one who dies for you. Sevgilim dünyanın kanunu böyle, My love,the law of world is that way Sevip mutlu olan varmıdır söyle, Is there anyone who loves and is happy? Seni benim gibi kimse anlamaz, Nobody can understand you like me Mutlu olamazsın başka biriyle. You can´t be happy with another one Eğer gideceksen, mani olamam, If you will go, i can´t hinder you Düşersen sonunda yine bul beni. If you fall, again find me. Vefasız kullardan, vefa bekleme, Don´t expect loyalty from unloyal people Kıymetsiz bir pula satarlar seni. They sell you for a valueless coin   Bulamazsın, bulamazsın, benim gibi seveni, You can´t find, you can´t find, the one who loves like me Bulamazsın, bulamazsın, seni mutlu edeni. You can´t find, you can´t find, the one who makes you happy Bulamazsın, bulamazsın, benim gibi seveni, You can´t find, you can´t find, the one who loves like me Bulamazsın, bulamazsın, senin için öleni  You can´t find, you can´t find, the one who dies for you.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHdRJ_XEOKI    My try Edited (3/27/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/27/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/27/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/27/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/30/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Zeki Müren - Seni Nasıl Sevdim

5036.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Mar 2010 Sat 02:08 am   Quoting ikicihan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaGEhLe4oPI   Seni Nasıl Sevdim  How i loved you   Seni Nasıl Sevdim Biliyor musun ? Do you know how i loved you? Kulların Tanrıyı Sevdiği Gibi. Like the believers love the god Sana Hasret Kaldım Sarılamadım, I sighed for you, i couldn´t hug you Bülbülün Güle Hasreti Gibi.. Like the longing of nightingale to rose Gönlüme Ne Bahar Nede Yaz Geldi Neither spring nor summer came to my heart Ne Sesini Duydum Ne Elim Değdi Neither i heard your voice nor my hands touched Kader Seni Değil Hep Çile Verdi The fate didn´t give you but always gave suffering Bütün Aşıkların Çektiği Gibi.. Like all lovers suffer. Hep Seni İstedim Yaradanımdan I always wanted you from my creator (god) Ağaçların Yağmur Duası Gibi Like the rain prayer of trees Öylesine Hasret Kaldım Yüzüne I sighed so much for your face Sanki Çok Sevmenin Cezası Gibi Like the punishment of loving much Gönlüme Ne Bahar Nede Yaz Geldi Neither spring nor summer came to my heart Ne Sesini Duydum Ne Elim Değdi Neither i heard your voice nor my hands touched Kader Seni Değil Hep Çile Verdi The fate didn´t give you but gave suffering Bütün Aşıkların Çektiği Gibi..  Like all lovers suffer.    My try Edited (3/27/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Umut Kaya - Mevsimler Gecerken

5037.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Mar 2010 Sat 01:45 am   Quoting elenagabriela http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fy97JSepz6M   Umut Kaya - Mevsimler Geçerken   Seni ilk gördüğümde Yok oldum, yalan oldum. Baktım gözlerine Ah o anda talan oldum, Sona kalan oldum. Mevsimler geçerken Temmuz gelir giderken Çok istedim yanımda sen yoktun. Yıllar binler olmuş Adaletin kaybolmuş, O yeşil gözlerinde ben yoktum. Yine kayıp bi’ yazdı Ellerin bembeyazdı, Baktım gözlerine Ah o anda seni yazdı, Sadece seni yazdı. My try    When i saw you first I vanished, i became a lie I looked at your eyes At that time i was looted I became a tailender   While the seasons was passing While July was coming and going I wanted so much but you were absent Years became thousands Your justice disappeared I was absent in your green eyes   It was again a lost summer Your hands were snow-white I looked at your eyes Ah that time it wrote you Only it wrote you.   Edited (3/27/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Gokhan Kirdar - Yagmur

5038.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Mar 2010 Sat 01:29 am   Quoting elenagabriela Yağmur   Adım adım geçer zaman , biter günüm..Ben nerdeyim? Yavaş yavaş batar güneş , hava soğuk...Sen nerdesin? Yağmur... Yağmur diner... Adım adım geçer zaman , biter günüm.. Ben nerdeyim? Yavaş yavaş batar güneş , hava soğuk...Sen nerdesin? Yağmur... Yağmur diner... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vazCWcYlIwg  Step by step passes time, finishes my day..Where am i? Bit by bit (slowly) sets the sun, the wheather is cold..Where are you? Rain... Rain ceases...   Step by step passes time, finishes my day.. Where am i?  Bit by bit (slowly) sets the sun, the wheather is cold..Where are you? Rain... Rain ceases... elenagabriela liked this message

Thread: Yerine Sevemem - Gokhan Kirdar

5039.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Mar 2010 Sat 12:30 am   Quoting elenagabriela Senden uzakta hep bir şeyler eksik Gönlümde derman yok inan bir nefeslik Ne bir avuntu nede biraz ümit Ne yaptın bana, nedir bu sessizlik İçimde bir şey acıyor sen gelince aklıma herşeyim Yerine sevemem, yerine sevemem Razıyım yapayanlız tükensin yıllarım, ama Yerine sevemem, yerine sevemem Olmuyor, denedim, yine de yerine sevemedim herşeyim   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu-FWPXzihU    My try   Away from you, always something is missing, There is no strength in my heart even for a breath Neither a consalation nor a little hope What did you do to me, what is this silence?   Something hurts inside me when you came to my mind, my everything I can´t love instead of you, i can´t love instead of you I conset to exhausting of my years all alone, but I can´t love instead of you, i can´t love instead of you It doesn´t happen, i tried, even so i couldn´t love instead of you my everything Edited (3/27/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/27/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/30/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Gokhan Kirdar - Fayton

5040.       gokuyum 5050 posts  27 Mar 2010 Sat 12:03 am   Quoting elenagabriela yoksun diye geldi, esti bahar, yoksun diye yandı, aşkına can, gözümün önüne geldi, meşti zaman, gecemi sarhoş ederdi, hoş bir edan. sensiz neyleyim dağda çiçek, günler yıllara, olduda denk. kapıda nöbete durdu, yaştı seniz, salına salına geldi,aşkı haber. çek faytonu, yarime uzanalım, çağırıyor, günleri, hasretin. ah dize getirdin, yüreğimi, hadi uzat, ellerini sevişeliim, sabaha denk.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhtZ5gh3uk4  My try   Because you are absent; spring came, spring blew Because you are absent; (my) soul burned for (the sake of) your love It came to my sight,  (music) practice of the time It  would make my night drunk, a nice manner of you   What do i do without you, the flower on the branch  The days became equal to years He started to guard duty at the door, old groom With a nice walk came the news of love   Take the phaeton away, let´s go to my love Your longing is calling the days You brought my heart to hill Come on! Reach out your hands. Let´s make love till morning Edited (3/27/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/27/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/27/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/27/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: Gonul - Fikret Kizilok

5041.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Mar 2010 Fri 11:24 pm   Quoting elenagabriela Bunca yil herkeşten kaçtın En sonunda buldum sandın Ansızın içini açtın Yapma dedim yaptın gönül  Gözleri senden uzaktı Fark edilmez bir tuzaktı Sana böylesi yasaktı Yapma dedim yaptın gönül  O bir yolcu sen bir hancı Gördüğün en son yalancı Içinde ki derin sancı Gitmez dedim kaldı gönül  Sen istedin ben dinledim Senden  ayrı olmaz dedim En sonunda bende sevdim Şimdi beni kurtar gönül  Gözlerin bakar da görmez Ellerin tutar da bilmez Gece gündüz fark edilmez Demedim mi sana gönül  Sabahın tam üçündesin Dertlerin en gücündesin Hâlâ onun peşindesin Gitme dedim gittin gönül  Böylesi sevdiğin için Bir kördüğüm oldu için Ağliyorsun için için Demedim mi sana gönül  Sen istedin ben dinledim Senden ayrı olmaz dedim En sonun da bende sevdim Şimdi beni kurtar gönül  My try   You ran away from everybody all these years At last you thought you found it Suddenly you unburdened yourself I said "don´t do", but you did it (my) heart (referring to his/her lover )   Her/his eyes were far away from you It was an inconspicuous trap It was forbidden to you suchlike I said "don´t do", but you did it (my) heart   He/she is a passanger, you are an innkeeper He/she is the last liar you saw Deep pain in you "It doesn´t go" i said, it stayed   You wanted, i listened "It doesn´t be without" i said. At last i loved too Now save me (my) heart   Your eyes look, but don´t see Your hands hold but don´t know It doesn´t matter night or day Didn´t i say to you (my) heart   You are in 3 o´clock in the morning You are in the hardest trouble You are still in search of his/her "Don´t go" i said, you went (my) heart   Because you love like this Because you became a gordian knot You cry innerly Didn´t i say to you (my) heart     You wanted, i listened "It doesn´t be without" i said. At last i loved too Now save me (my) heart   Edited (3/26/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/30/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: t to e lutfan

5042.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Mar 2010 Fri 10:24 pm   Quoting nifrtity En son sardunyalar da soldular sen orda ben burda yüreğim yanar bu ayrılık değil ölüm bana ne olur ağlama kıyamam sana bu aşk saklı içimde sen de gitme acılarla olmaz böyle ayrılık niye o masum yüzünde sessiz çığlıklar gibi her sözün git desen de kal desen de yaş dolar gözüm o masum teninde yorgun ellerinde hep hüzün sensizlikten her nefeste yaş dolar gözüm dokunma yaralarıma içimde çıkmaz yollara yapma dudaklarınla kalbime dokunup onu acıtma vurma yaralarıma kar yağmasın baharıma yapma dudaklarınla kalbime dokunup onu acıtma en son sardunyalar da soldular Sonra fareye acıdı ve bıraktı. Fare hemen koşup gitti can any help me to translate this song             My try as a native (Turkish)             At the very last geraniums wilted. You are there, i am here. My heart burns (hurts). This is not a seperation, this is death for me. Please don´t cry, i can´t hurt you. This love is hiding in me, don´t you go  too, with pains can´t be such seperation. Why? Your all words are like soundless cries on your innocent face.Whether you say go or stay, my eyes fill with tears.On your innocent skin, in your tired hands there are always sadness,by every breath my eyes fill with tears. Don´t touch to my wounds, to dead-end roads in me, don´t do. By touching to my heart with your lips, don´t hurt it.Don´t hit my wounds. I wish it doesn´t snow to my spring.Don´t do. By touching to my heart with your lips, don´t hurt it. At the very last geraniums wilted. And then he/she pitied to mouse and mouse immediately, ran away. Edited (3/28/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/28/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: t to e lutfan

5043.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Mar 2010 Fri 09:56 pm   Quoting nifrtity Dayan ruhum bu aciya dayan caresizim cok gec bir günüm daha gecermi sensiz darmadagin yapayanlizim sigindigim limandi bu ask nolur kalbine bir bak ah ben oradayim beklemekle dinermi sızı sessizligimin yok ilaci gün be gün kanarken ask acisi savurur yikar gecer zamani uyan sonsuz rüyalardan uyan cok gec artik cok gec dayan ruhum bu aciya dayan caresizim cok gec bir günüm daha gecermi sensiz darmadagin yapayanlizim                My try as a native (Turkish)             Endure my soul to this pain endure,i am helpless. Does another day pass without you? I am cluttered and all alone.This love was the port that i sheltered. Please look at your heart one time, ah i am there. Does my pain cease by waiting? There is no medication for my silence. Day by day while the pain of love bleeds, it destroys the time. Wake up from endless dreams, wake up. Now it is very late,now it is very late. Endure my soul to this pain, i am helpless. Does another day pass without you. I am cluttered and all alone Edited (3/26/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/26/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/26/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: please translate t ->e

5044.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Mar 2010 Fri 09:42 pm   Quoting TurkishSon Ne kadar bencil bir adamsın sen ya ) (bu biraz ağır oldu farkındayım) Ben sana 40 kere yazılarını benimle paylaş demedim mi ( ne mecburiyetin varsa) Tesadüfen görmesem açtığın sayfayı okuyamayacaktım Sana paylaşmanın şokkk güzel olduğunu kimse öğretmedi mi? Neyse bu yazıdan sonra zaten birşey paylaşmayacaksın okuduklarım yanıma kar       Son yazimdan mi bahaediyorsun sen? Ya birden yuklenme anlama kapasitemi yukseltmiyosun yuklenince       Okuduklarin ben degilim; sadece benim yazdiklarimi okuyorsun Bu sayfadan bahsediyorum....Yahu baska bır Cem mi var senden habersiz sayfa açıp senın adını kullanarak yazılar yazan?       Evet ole bir cem var Arada bir konusuyoruz aklindan gecenleri bana anlatir bende kagida dokerim       seni deli olduğun için ve tanımlayamadığım garipliklerinden dolayı seviyorum... Hımm bunlara yeni birşey daha eklendi hayatımda gördüğüm en güzel bebeklerden birinin babasısın...Bak bu seni daha sempatik kılıyor    What a egoist man you are! (I know it is a bit much to say so) I told you 40 times to share your writings with me. ( You don´t have any obligation, i know) By chance if i didn´t see it, i couldn´t read the page you opened. Didn´t anybody teach you that sharing is a very good thing? Anyway you won´t share anything after this message so what i read is a gain for me. Do you mention my last message? Don´t press on me suddenly, you don´t increase my mental capacity when you do so. What you read isn´t me, you read only what i write. I´m talking about this page. Is there any other Cem who opens page without your information and writes by using your name? Yes there is a Cem so. We talk sometimes, he tell me what he thinks and i write them. I love you because of your craziness and your oddness that i can´t define. And a new thing added to those.You are father of one of the most beautiful baby that i have ever seen. This makes you more sympathetic.

Thread: turkish to english please

5045.       gokuyum 5050 posts  26 Mar 2010 Fri 08:03 pm   Quoting TurkishSon   Ne kadar bencil bir adamsın sen ya ) (bu biraz ağır oldu farkındayım) Ben sana 40 kere yazılarını benimle paylaş demedim mi ( ne mecburiyetin varsa) Tesadüfen görmesem açtığın sayfayı okuyamayacaktım Sana paylaşmanın şokkk güzel olduğunu kimse öğretmedi mi? Neyse bu yazıdan sonra zaten birşey paylaşmayacaksın okuduklarım yanıma kar   Son yazimdan mi bahaediyorsun sen? Ya birden yuklenme anlama kapasitemi yukseltmiyosun yuklenince   Okuduklarin ben degilim; sadece benim yazdiklarimi okuyorsun Bu sayfadan bahsediyorum....Yahu baska bır Cem mi var senden habersiz sayfa açıp senın adını kullanarak yazılar yazan?   Evet ole bir cem var Arada bir konusuyoruz aklindan gecenleri bana anlatir bende kagida dokerim   seni deli olduğun için ve tanımlayamadığım garipliklerinden dolayı seviyorum... Hımm bunlara yeni birşey daha eklendi hayatımda gördüğüm en güzel bebeklerden birinin babasısın...Bak bu seni daha sempatik kılıyor                What a egoist man you are!              (I know it is a bit much to say so)              I told you 40 times to share your writings with me.              ( You don´t have any obligation, i know)              By chance if i didn´t see it, i couldn´t read the page you opened. Didn´t anybody teach you that sharing is a very good thing? Anyway you won´t share anything after this message so what i read is a gain for me.              Do you mention my last message? Don´t press on me suddenly, you don´t increase my mental capacity when you do so.               What you read isn´t me, you read only what i write. I´m talking about this page. Is there any other Cem who opens page without your information and writes by using your name? Yes there is a Cem so. We talk sometimes, he tell me what he thinks and i write them. I love you because of your craziness and your oddness that i can´t define.                And a new thing added to those.You are father of one of the most beautiful baby that i have ever seen. This makes you more sympathetic. Edited (3/26/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/26/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: new E - T

5046.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Mar 2010 Thu 04:02 am   Quoting elenagabriela I think that is the last one...   it is very hard to divorce because your child is very little; even you or she start the trial, you need to prove that the marriage cant be possible; you can say that you leave the house and your family..but you need proves and witnesses...anyway the trial can last 1 year or more..and the lawyer will be more and more expensive...very hard and if your lawyer cant speak turkish..very hard...you need a translator and he is so expensive too good luck but I think you cant divorce soon     sincerelly yours Elena             Boşanman çok zor çünkü çocuğun çok küçük, o davayı sen başlatsan veya o başlatsa bile evliliğin sürme imkanı olmadığını kanıtlaman gerekiyor. Evden ve ailenden ayrıldığını söyleyebilirsin ama kanıtlara ve tanıklara ihtiyacın olacak. Neyse dava bir yıl veya daha uzun sürebilir ve avukat çok çok pahalı olacaktır. Çok zor eğer ki avukat Türkçe konuşamıyorsa çok zor. Bir çevirmene ihtiyacın var ve o da çok pahalı. İyi şanslar ama bence yakın zamanda boşanamazsın.             Saygılarımla Elena   Edited (3/25/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: please help really need this translating.

5047.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Mar 2010 Thu 03:47 am   Quoting britturk  I am trying so hard to satisfy you but everything I try doesnt seem to be enough for you. I was simply trying to explain that my financial situation will not be as good as I hoped whilst I am in Turkey. This just means we will have to be more careful.I dont know why you reacted so badly. You are not the only one who has problems. You know whatever I have I will share with you. You seem to think I am tight...Not at all,  I am generous when I have money. You dont appreciate what I am trying to do. I will work and save all my salary so that we can be together.What did i do to you for you to disrespect me so much?          Seni memnun etmek için çok çabalıyorum ama yapmaya çabaladığım hiçbir şey senin için yeterli görünmüyor. Sana basitçe finansal durumumun Türkiye´de olduğum sürece umduğum kadar iyi olmayacağını açıklamaya çalışıyorum. Niçin bu kadar kötü tepki gösterdiğini bilmiyorum. Problemleri olan tek kişi sen değilsin. Biliyorsun ki sahip olduğum her şeyi seninle paylaşacağım. Eli sıkı biri olduğumu düşünüyor gibi görünüyorsun. Hiç de değil, param olduğu zaman cömerdim. Ne yapmaya çalıştığımı takdir etmiyorsun. Çalışacağım ve tüm kazancımı birlikte olabilelim diye biriktireceğim. Sana ne yaptım ki bana bu derece saygısız davranıyorsun? Edited (3/25/2010) by gokuyum Edited (3/25/2010) by gokuyum

Thread: please help me

5048.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Mar 2010 Thu 03:20 am   Quoting lauraacorah You dont find a way to resolve the issue you just shout and dont listen to me. I am telling you Its impossible for me to come there after April.          Bu konuyu çözecek bir yol aramıyorsun; bana sadece bağırıyor ve beni hiç dinlemiyorsun. Sana benim için Nisan´dan sonra gelmenin imkansız olduğunu anlatıyorum.

Thread: please help me

5049.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Mar 2010 Thu 03:18 am   Quoting lauraacorah I have spent months planning that holiday.I have worked hard to save the money and my ticket is non refundable. If we dont resolve this I dont know how we can go on.        O tatili planlayarak aylar geçirdim. Parayı biriktirmek için çok sıkı çalıştım ve biletim de geri ödenebilir değil. Eğer bunu çözmezsek nasıl devam edebileceğimizi bilmiyorum.

Thread: Eng -> Tr

5050.       gokuyum 5050 posts  25 Mar 2010 Thu 03:11 am   Quoting Sekerleme =) I need it today please   Just translate this please:   It is about that I was thinking whole the night.. Believe me I didn´t do it, and you know me well, why should I do it for you.. I just thought that you were very curious and at the same time nice when we were talking in the first time.  I know I am too late, but my thoughts about that never let me sleep, because you are a very important friend to me.      Çünkü bütün gece düşünüyordum. İnan bana onu ben yapmadım ve sen de beni iyi biliyorsun(tanıyorsun), niçin onu senin için yapmalıyım? İlk kez konuşurken senin çok meraklı(or "tuhaf") ve aynı zamanda hoş olduğunu düşündüm. Biliyorum çok geciktim ama o konudaki düşüncelerim beni uyutmadı, çünkü sen benim için çok önemli bir arkadaşsın. Edited (3/25/2010) by gokuyum

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