To me this discussion is rather like the Turkish reading our newspapers, and thinking what they read reflects what is a normal way of life in Britain today. (In particular what I call the "gutter press" Daily Mirror, Sun, Daily Star - you know, the ones adorned with hugely inflated breasts and liposuctioned thighs aka Jordan)

And thinking that all British women have illegitimate children by four different fathers, we all live on social security, we are all racist, that we all love Tony Blair. That all women will have sex with any man walking, or that we have no morals. All men stay in the pub til' all hours and drink themselves to oblivion on a daily basis and they are all football holigans.

Judge the person you know as you know them and not on what you read about a nation.

Sorry if this has gone a little off track.................

I did say I had gone off track............. and I am implying that what you read is not always to be believed, I'll go back to sleep now