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Erdogan's AK Parti Storm Troopers
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28 Sep 2007 Fri 10:54 pm |
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28 Sep 2007 Fri 10:55 pm |
Quoting thehandsom: Quoting KeithL: Turkey is over 99% muslim of course. And throughout the country, there are regions that are more religous than others. In Istanbul, Beyoglu and Taksim are know for nightlife. Everyone knows this, practicing muslims and non-practicing muslims alike know this. So anyone that chooses to visit this area (even during Ramazan), they should expect to see people that are not fasting.
I do agree that you should respect the area that you are in. Most areas of Istanbul, it would not be appropriate during Ramazan to drink water, smoke or eat in public. But Istiklal is not one of these places.... |
What is respect got to do with it?
Or what is area got to do with it?
or what is 99% got to do with it?
It is a secular state. I have right to eat or smoke anywhere at anytime. And the state is responsible to give me that freedom.
What are you going to if they say 'no..we dont like skirts on the streets, because they are offending my religion' or 'no.. you cant walk on the street during pray times. Because offending my religion'.
Religion is between the person and what they believe. It is as simple as that.
I dont believe the guy drinking in Taksim should be seen as as a person that disrespects the religion.
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28 Sep 2007 Fri 10:56 pm |
Quoting lucky and happy: you are a stupid lier....i live thre and never lived like this.i dont fasting also ....be honest and dont tell wrong about turkey.... |
So because YOU didn't see it or heard about it, it doesn't occur?
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28 Sep 2007 Fri 10:59 pm |
Quoting lucky and happy: you are a stupid lier....i live thre and never lived like this.i dont fasting also ....be honest and dont tell wrong about turkey.... |
I don't think lucky is very happy. Who is a stupid liar?
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28 Sep 2007 Fri 11:04 pm |
A few days ago a friend showed me this link.
http://www.milliyet.com.tr/2007/09/25/yasam/axyas02.html
Watch the movie, press "baslat".
They were suspecting that the girl had stolen jewellery. But after all they had to let her go because of lack of evidence..
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28 Sep 2007 Fri 11:05 pm |
Quoting lucky and happy: you are a stupid lier....i live thre and never lived like this.i dont fasting also ....be honest and dont tell wrong about turkey.... |
We have proverb saying,who loves you can skip an eye of anything bad you do,and who hates you wish you to make anything wrong
We all know keithL not a AK parti big fan,so if this incident was true,he would see it as a policy of new period,not just some not approved action from some police troops.
But do you think that is the right way to make your point or discuss it ?!
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28 Sep 2007 Fri 11:47 pm |
Why is it wrong? I respect the right of the AK parti do govern after winning a fair election. At the same time, there is nothing wrong in keeping an eye on the system to make sure Turkey is progessing and not regressing. Politically, Turkey is so polarized that a political atmosphere resembling the 70's seems present. No one wants a repeat of the left/right street wars of this period.
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29 Sep 2007 Sat 12:04 am |
Quoting KeithL:
This is why turkish constitution and responsibilities of the military to the state are so important. This is a situation unique only to Turkey which is why the western nations have a hard time understanding. |
That is what is WRONG KeithL !
That is step backward,not forward .
İ pray such incidents dont take place in Türkiye,even tho it took place in many countries before and im afraid it will too,
But it Türkiye if happened it will give a chance to lots of voices to demand such thing,which is a huge step backward for Türkiye.
İf AK smart,and i believe and pray he would be,he can prove that its not wrong,nor contradictory to have an İslamic believes,and a secular system at same time which everyone can practice his own freedom as long as its not against other people's freedom too.
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29 Sep 2007 Sat 12:06 am |
I hope so too. On a personal level, I like Gül and think he is a good maan.
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29 Sep 2007 Sat 02:43 am |
Quoting CANLI:
That is what is WRONG KeithL !
That is step backward,not forward .
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Agreed 100%.
Military is the last thing Turkey needs right now.
They are responsible what we have right now in Turkey anyway.
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04 Dec 2007 Tue 07:21 pm |
Quoting eddie: 'protect you ' |
according to the writing on the side of the black mustang police car in the transformers movie they are here to "punish and enslave"
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