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Is there no end to this madness?
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01 Feb 2008 Fri 04:32 pm |
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Quoting thehandsom: Quoting ciko: the biggest mistake about such subjects belongs to muslims that never commented again Quran for 800 years. i am really ashamed. |
I am glad you realize something is not right..
I believe islam needs more than just commenting..
It requires reforming. |
I agree with you handsom. I think it is in serious need of on overhaul. Most religions have done this at one point or another. I don't think it is a mistake to do this because these books were written thousands of years ago, in a different time for different people. But even if Islam is reformed there is a fundamental problem with the fact that most Islamic people believe that the Quran is the exact word of God. That doesn't leave much room for change.
What seems strange is that people are more willing to follow a book rather than what is right. It is beyond my understanding how people can kill other people in the name of God.
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01 Feb 2008 Fri 04:46 pm |
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how we can blame a whole system about some extrems or fundamenatlists?And who can defend if somethings goin wrong or if someone using holy beliefs for make darker others life,but we all have to gave up this social phobia by to be against all injustices and wrongs,and i have to say that finally still planty happy Muslim women or girls with their own life style and own rights.Aad example musn't be generalize i think????...
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01 Feb 2008 Fri 04:50 pm |
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aren't any freedom enemy or woman exploiting in west??and how can we blame all west about some extrem wrong people????
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01 Feb 2008 Fri 04:56 pm |
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Quoting MrX67: aren't any freedom enemy or woman exploiting in west??and how can we blame all west about some extrem wrong people???? |
MrX67, of course there are. However, this is about the fact that a journalist is going to be executed over the most ridiculous reasons, because of a religion. Like it or not, that is the case. In your country, your religion is not so extreme. However, the fact is that in MOST other muslim countries, it is.
This is not some obscure story I have searched for in order to spark an anti-islam debate. It is headline news all over the world, and is an important issue for MOST people.
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01 Feb 2008 Fri 04:57 pm |
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Quoting MrX67: how we can blame a whole system about some extrems or fundamenatlists?And who can defend if somethings goin wrong or if someone using holy beliefs for make darker others life,but we all have to gave up this social phobia by to be against all injustices and wrongs,and i have to say that finally still planty happy Muslim women or girls with their own life style and own rights.Aad example musn't be generalize i think????... |
i agree.
i must admit i have not read the article. yet. i will read it. but i think that this will not change my opinion, that extreme examples are sporadic to what the entire reality covers.
i also think that logic is the light in thinking which chases away extremist darkness.
why i think my example is more concludent and stronger than the article?
because it has hapiness in it, love, understanding and wisdom. if this occures in a society, if a society can afford such features, that society is not lost. each right thought, right deed is a victory which spreads, attracting it's benefit, the light of understanding.
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01 Feb 2008 Fri 04:59 pm |
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Portokal the only EXTREME in Islam is the "mildness" of Turkey's muslim population. The acts we are talking about are very common within Islamic States and are not unusual at all (only in Turkey).
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01 Feb 2008 Fri 04:59 pm |
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Quoting Elisabeth: But even if Islam is reformed there is a fundamental problem with the fact that most Islamic people believe that the Quran is the exact word of God. That doesn't leave much room for change. |
You are absolutely right on that. There is not much room in Quran itself.
I dont know how this reform will happen but it must happen!
Statistics about expansion of religions, Christianity is ahead of islam. No wonder why!
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01 Feb 2008 Fri 05:00 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting MrX67: aren't any freedom enemy or woman exploiting in west??and how can we blame all west about some extrem wrong people???? |
MrX67, of course there are. However, this is about the fact that a journalist is going to be executed over the most ridiculous reasons, because of a religion. Like it or not, that is the case. In your country, your religion is not so extreme. However, the fact is that in MOST other muslim countries, it is.
This is not some obscure story I have searched for in order to spark an anti-islam debate. It is headline news all over the world, and is an important issue for MOST people. |
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01 Feb 2008 Fri 05:02 pm |
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Quoting MrX67: not only for a few ones... |
They are not a "few" MrX67. You are judging while sitting in a country where the majority of people are muslims (but it is not a requirement) where people freely drink alcohol, have sex before marriage and do not have to take part in Ramadan. The MAJORITY of other Islamic countries are, in your words "extremist". Even the UK has more fundamentalist muslims than Turkey!
The sentence on this journalist was ordered by a regime that is considered "less extreme" and is supported by the US and UK......
These are considered MILD!!! 
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01 Feb 2008 Fri 05:27 pm |
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That is tragic 
I do wonder where exactly in islam the authorities find grounds for this punishment? The part that says that any journalists protesting to the sentence also will be punished is a good hint that it's nothing more than the crazy (I want to use a stronger word) laws of a just as crazy government
Hopefully with enough attention from the international community it won't be carried out anyway.
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01 Feb 2008 Fri 05:31 pm |
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Quoting azade: That is tragic
I do wonder where exactly in islam the authorities find grounds for this punishment? The part that says that any journalists protesting to the sentence also will be punished is a good hint that it's nothing more than the crazy (I want to use a stronger word) laws of a just as crazy government
Hopefully with enough attention from the international community it won't be carried out anyway. |
Thanks for actually commenting on the point of the thread Azade, instead of just being defensive 
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