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Is there no end to this madness?
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17 Mar 2008 Mon 04:11 pm |
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Quoting KeithL: Quoting AEnigma III: An Afghan journalist has been sentenced to death for downloading...guess what?
Pornography?
Child porn?
Anti-muslim material?
NO NO! For downloading material about women's rights in an Islamic society.
THIS is the lengths some men will go to to keep their power. Women who say there are no women's rights issues that affect them, indirectly support it.
Please note that this is also the regime that the US/UK are supporting. They should get the hell out of there.... 
EDIT: I made a mistake of course in the above. The downloaded material IS anti-islam because it is about women's rights and therefore is considered blasphemy.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7204341.stm
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Here is the anti-islam thread that has been keeping us all up at night. Easier to find than WMD in Irak. |
I fail to understand why this is anti-Islam.... this is a news article about some rather horrible thing that happened in an islamic country and because of islamic laws... I think most people would agree that this incident is rather horrible and it doesn't make us anti-Islam...
If you disagree, of course, I'd like to hear your views.
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17 Mar 2008 Mon 04:36 pm |
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Please read the next post, Post 47. I was absolutely kidding trying to lighten the whole anti-islam theme. Yes. Very horrible no matter how you look at religion.
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17 Mar 2008 Mon 04:38 pm |
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There seems to have been a shift in the decision, so lets wait and see!
Article from 6th Feb
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17 Mar 2008 Mon 05:07 pm |
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Quoting KeithL: Please read the next post, Post 47. I was absolutely kidding trying to lighten the whole anti-islam theme. Yes. Very horrible no matter how you look at religion. |
ok, thanks 
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17 Mar 2008 Mon 07:20 pm |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting KeithL: Please read the next post, Post 47. I was absolutely kidding trying to lighten the whole anti-islam theme. Yes. Very horrible no matter how you look at religion. |
ok, thanks |
look at your post in this thread
"13. catwoman
3957 posts 01 Feb 2008 Fri 08:06 am
Quoting ciko:
oki doki i went to mosque today so i feel like i have to defend Islam
So THAT'S how it works! You go to the mosque and come back brainwashed! "
I think the fact that you don't even realize or recognize how your comments are is a serious problem. You have serious issues with Islam yourself and can hardly be considered neutral participant.
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17 Mar 2008 Mon 07:24 pm |
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alameda...is it possible you are too willing to defend islam? I don't think you can deny there are problems.
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17 Mar 2008 Mon 07:41 pm |
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I think these problems are mostly because the civil muslims are ignorant about their religions. Many of them havent read the whole Quran for themselves or never pondered over a verse from the Quran and a hadith that they read. It is all left to the religious seniors/authorities' comments and decisions, as if the other ppl dont have their own brains to think and decide. And those seniors/authorities (or whatever they can be called), carried away with the pleasure of power they have over these ignorant ppl, do whatever they want and whatever that sounds right to them! Of course, there may be points that one cannot understand without the comments of someone else, but they should be careful who they are taking the comments from. This is not only to do with Islam. Christianity experienced this case centuries ago as well, with the power of churches over ppl. The difference is that the Chritianity sorted it out but Islam still suffers it.
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17 Mar 2008 Mon 07:44 pm |
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Quoting AlphaF: However the book itself says Islam is a universal religion, not meant exclusively for Arabs..
What we should go by is the Quran itself, and our own understanding of it....Not by what Arabs, or others, tell us. |
I recently read a book that made it sound as if the islam religion was made for arabs. In the book, Muhammed was quoted as saying that the Jews had their book, the Christians had their book and this was book was for the Arabs.
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17 Mar 2008 Mon 07:48 pm |
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Quoting KeithL: I recently read a book that made it sound as if the islam religion was made for arabs. In the book, Muhammed was quoted as saying that the Jews had their book, the Christians had their book and this was book was for the Arabs. |
what book is that? and who is the author? And even if the prophet made that quote, what is wrong with that? Jews and Christians are not nations, they are the followers of the reigions that make them Jew or Christian. But Arabs are a nation. And they were arab before the Islam as well.. :-S
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17 Mar 2008 Mon 07:51 pm |
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Quoting incişka: Quoting KeithL: I recently read a book that made it sound as if the islam religion was made for arabs. In the book, Muhammed was quoted as saying that the Jews had their book, the Christians had their book and this was book was for the Arabs. |
what book is that? and who is the author? |
I will find it for you. It was a flattering book on Islam by the way.
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17 Mar 2008 Mon 08:01 pm |
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Quoting incişka: I think these problems are mostly because the civil muslims are ignorant about their religions. Many of them havent read the whole Quran for themselves or never pondered over a verse from the Quran and a hadith that they read. It is all left to the religious seniors/authorities' comments and decisions, as if the other ppl dont have their own brains to think and decide. And those seniors/authorities (or whatever they can be called), carried away with the pleasure of power they have over these ignorant ppl, do whatever they want and whatever that sounds right to them! Of course, there may be points that one cannot understand without the comments of someone else, but they should be careful who they are taking the comments from. This is not only to do with Islam. Christianity experienced this case centuries ago as well, with the power of churches over ppl. The difference is that the Chritianity sorted it out but Islam still suffers it. |
A lot of good points incişka, however that problem still exists in Christianity today. All one has to do is Look at the Christian Right movement in the USA today. It also exists in India with the
BJP
who "Hindu nationalist groups continue to arm civilians in Gujarat and many other Indian states. Instead of cracking down on these groups, the Gujarat state Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) government has included the distribution of arms as part of its election manifesto."
TheocracyWatch
Or look at the
Christian Zionists
I think the answer is educated and informed people, instead of lazy brainwashed propagandized people.
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