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Why most 'educated' Turks are more close-minded!!
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14 Jun 2008 Sat 03:57 am |
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Quoting thehandsom: Quoting catwoman:
... and paranoid that handsom and his extraterrestial army will wipe Turkey off the map, establish Handsomye instead and elevate himself to the ranks of Ataturk/god, the father of all Handsoms. You will have to sing hymns every morning to praise his greateness and your foremost duty will be to defend Handsomye from every foreigner, either with words or your own blood. |
Once I am in that position , do you think DD will answer all my pms and I will get an msn invitation from her?  |
Why of course, there's nothing I like more about men than ambition! Oh and a big........bank account But here one means the other Become a Handsomurk and my MSN is yours
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14 Jun 2008 Sat 10:41 am |
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This is not called flirting...
It is a simple way of teaching others manners.
The next time you decide to enlighten the rest of us with your deep understanding of things, at least save yourself the emberrassment of posting replies without having read the original post to which you reply. Simple as that.
Regarding flirting with you, I already told you that I am a bit afraid of cats (more of a dog-person, really), and unless you are willing to change that nick from catwoman to dogwoman, I am afraid you don't stand a chance of dating me 
Quoting catwoman:
You said you weren't going to flirt with me, and what is this, eh?   |
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14 Jun 2008 Sat 10:55 am |
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"They" are who they have always been....those that have a lot and want more.
Keep the masses busy and distracted so they don't think about it, or see the man behind the curtain. The connected elite few. It's not Americans, British or Jewish.
"They" have learned to work together for a common goal.
Exactly who it is a mystery. It's a good idea to follow the money....or look at who looses and who gains. As always, motive.
Quoting thehandsom: Now look above, you are unable take this 'foreign element' out of your brains. You have no answers without 'foreign hands or dark forces'.What lessons do you think I am taking here? who are they you think giving lessons?
what are they? be specific!!
This is pathetic man.. |
Look at how complicated some spider webs are....but how often do you see the spider?
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14 Jun 2008 Sat 11:04 am |
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Quoting alameda: "They" are who they have always been....those that have a lot and want more.
Keep the masses busy and distracted so they don't think about it, or see the man behind the curtain. The connected elite few. It's not Americans, British or Jewish.
"They" have learned to work together for a common goal.
Exactly who it is a mystery. It's a good idea to follow the money....or look at who looses and who gains. As always, motive.
Quoting thehandsom: Now look above, you are unable take this 'foreign element' out of your brains. You have no answers without 'foreign hands or dark forces'.What lessons do you think I am taking here? who are they you think giving lessons?
what are they? be specific!!
This is pathetic man.. |
Look at how complicated some spider webs are....but how often do you see the spider?
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Alameda,
Look..
I asked a simple question up there..AND I added 'BE SPECIFIC'
You look at your post and tell me if you have been specific or not!!
you are talking about mystery, webs and elusive spiders ya..
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14 Jun 2008 Sat 11:11 am |
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Quoting thehandsom: Alameda,
Look..
I asked a simple question up there..AND I added 'BE SPECIFIC'
You look at your post and tell me if you have been specific or not!! you are talking about mystery, webs and elusive spiders ya.. |
I'm telling you how it is....It is purposeful obscurity. You want us to do your work for you....? As I said, follow the money. Look at who gains. 
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14 Jun 2008 Sat 12:16 pm |
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Quoting cynicmystic: This is not called flirting...
It is a simple way of teaching others manners.
The next time you decide to enlighten the rest of us with your deep understanding of things, at least save yourself the emberrassment of posting replies without having read the original post to which you reply. Simple as that.
Regarding flirting with you, I already told you that I am a bit afraid of cats (more of a dog-person, really), and unless you are willing to change that nick from catwoman to dogwoman, I am afraid you don't stand a chance of dating me
Quoting catwoman:
You said you weren't going to flirt with me, and what is this, eh? |
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Thank you for enlightening and guiding me on the path of darkness that I'm on. I am eternally grateful for your teachings and wisdom, simple as it might be.
By the way, I didn't say that I wanted to date you, quite the opposite actually - that's why I urged you not to flirt with me!
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14 Jun 2008 Sat 06:06 pm |
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Quoting alameda:
Wow, great post. Thank you, you have given a lot of thought and taken time to actually write out your own original ideas....unlike some...  Welcome to Turkish Class.....looking forward to more interesting reading.... |
Great post,and good debat
Looking forward for more also
Welcome to TLC
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14 Jun 2008 Sat 09:50 pm |
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Quoting cynicmystic: The next time you decide to enlighten the rest of us with your deep understanding of things, at least save yourself the emberrassment of posting replies without having read the original post to which you reply. Simple as that. |
That is right, but can only work if you don't write such long, boring posts. 
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16 Jun 2008 Mon 06:31 pm |
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Quoting thehandsom: Tell us then.. Go on..
Tell what Kurds have done to Turks.
So we all learn. |
Simple betrayal, rebellion and now terrorism, the ones you callled “young people”. Why you abstain to explain this? Also why you only asked Kurds what happened to others?
Quoting thehandsom: I simple asked you a question about what you think my agenda is..
Can you answer? do you have an answer? can you possible have an answer? |
Your agenda is simple, your agenda is no different than Ali Kemal’s agenda during the Independence war, your agenda is no different than the today’s so-called intellectuels who are paid by EU in order to weaken army or basis of Turkish Republic, your agenda is like the mentality that Turks cannot do anything by themselves. You are at the side of capital not the labour, you support globalisation not the independence. I come up with the ones like you, they all think people can be liberalized only sermoning about human-rights and freedom but they discard the economical and social rights, human-rights and freedom is nothing if people cannot live like a human. You simply support colonilisation. I bet you are a fan of Sorros.
Quoting thehandsom: Look.. This 'secret agenda' thing is not your idea..it is 'embeded' into your head by years and years of listening pathetic statements of the army generals and disfunctional politicans.
The sad thing is, you DONT EVEN REALISE IT. |
This not secret agenda Mr.thehansom, this all tested and experienced during the history and still we experience not listening the pathetic statements of anyone. You really sold out and the sad thing is YOU REALIZE THIS .
Quoting thehandsom: Now look above, you are unable take this 'foreign element' out of your brains. You have no answers without 'foreign hands or dark forces'.
What lessons do you think I am taking here?
who are they you think giving lessons?
what are they? be specific!! |
You reach the truth via unique answer to a question, Mr thehandsom, i think YOU DONT REALIZE THIS TIME . Thats the fact, and their mission is to attack Mustafa Kemal, Army , try to belittle them in the eyes of Turkish nation, thats continuing propogand and thats the lesson but money given who take lessons .
Quoting Daydreamer: Absolutely right about the former, and wrong about the latter. Perhaps you fail to notice that the whole idea of 'they're here to get us' is a bit like warning people against the UFO. Everybody is there to get you - USA, UE, and Handsom with his Secret Agenda. |
Hmmm, I have to say that you talking nonsense with your UFO simile, last time i gave you an example of Mumcu about this, i think you fail to understand or you are not able to understand. Thats not the fear, not the idea of “everybody is here to get Turkey”, it is observation through the history, what Mumcu wrote was actually portraying future. Now let me ask, what will they gain if Turkey accept genocide? Whats the aim? What if Turkey declare the south east as a province? Whats the aim? Why do you think Turkey forced to sell lands on south east to Israelities? Why do you think Turkey trying to be alienated from nation state? More suitable for colony?
Quoting Daydreamer: You just come looking for conspirators. |
Check again my posts especially first times to see what i was doing here. I posted nearly 700 posts and 70% of them are translations in order to help people. So you should check the others.
Quoting Daydreamer: As for this forum being biased, I don't see how. Everybody is free to post what they like, how other members respond is everybody's individual business. As long as you don't get vulgar and rude, you may have any opinion you like. |
Good lesson thanks, i dont know this . I think i gave a clue why i called forum biased;
Quoting armegon: Ahh i forgot, im narrow-minded, here who says Kurds/PKK are freedom-fighters express their thoughts freely but when i say Kurds are nothing but new petrol guardians of Yankees then i became nationalist/racist. But in fact in my entire life i have no connection with the nationalists or ülkücü thats the ironic part |
No endurance like this posts immediately labelled, seems double standards to me, also i remember members who were forced to leave the site because of posting about sionism, some leave the site because of insults, labelings etc.
Quoting Daydreamer: In case you haven't noticed, there are many positive things written about Turkey here. You just have to get used to the fact that people have different opinions about your country's policies than you. |
By my side, im not looking for positive things about Turkey, im only looking for honesty and justice. And you just have to get used the fact that people do not have to think like you especially for his own country so try to show some respect before labelling people.
Quoting Daydreamer: Now that's a bit of an overstatement, don't you think? Nobody here fears or hates those who love their country. |
Actually not, it is not so hard to observe this for a Turk in the forum, thats the reason there arent so many Turkish contributers to the site except the handsom with the not-secret agenda .
Quoting Daydreamer: I dearly love my homeland and I'm sure so do most of the users here. It is the paranoia and nationalism that we find ridiculous. |
Ohh thats good for you, then i can call you patriot and for sure most of the users are here patriot. I find ridiculous that you are obsessed with paranoia and nationalism more paranoid than the real paranoids.You forgot to say that “Ataturk is not god”. I got bored explaning the same thing.
Quoting Daydreamer: As for experts or those who arrogantly claim to know better. If people write about their conclusions based on some material they read or experiences they were through what makes their logic worse than yours? |
Who said they are experts? Thats not based on logic, thats based on facts actually. It is something like vicious circle, starts same, finishes same. Its something like programmed.
Quoting Daydreamer: For me it's hard to understand Turkish justice if a person is banished for what he writes (not talking about whether he is right or wrong but merely about the fact that in 21st century somebody is banished for intellectual crimes), or when a person faces a trial for saying that she wouldn't like her son to die on war. |
I think i have given you an example of this from the laws of Austria and France before, you never touched them and asking this to me again, i said again banishing people because of thoughts is wrong , as for the laws of Turkish some sure should be revised.
Quoting Daydreamer: Liberal is wrong? |
These are the liberals serve Soros, i explained their aims, now let me ask, is it true for them to slander Army and Atatürk? They go along with the islamists now.
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| 99. |
16 Jun 2008 Mon 07:09 pm |
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Quoting thehandsom:
Tell us then.. Go on..
Tell what Kurds have done to Turks.
So we all learn.
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If you knew some Ottoman history you would be aware of the genocide in which the Kurds slaughtered 30,000 of Alevi Turks only in one day with the order of Yavuz.
So here is your chance to LEARN.
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16 Jun 2008 Mon 08:46 pm |
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Quoting tamikidakika: Quoting thehandsom:
Tell us then.. Go on..
Tell what Kurds have done to Turks.
So we all learn.
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If you knew some Ottoman history you would be aware of the genocide in which the Kurds slaughtered 30,000 of Alevi Turks only in one day with the order of Yavuz.
So here is your chance to LEARN. |
Thanks for the info..
But it was 500 years ago though!
I knew Yavuz chopped every alevi's head until Caldiran (in the city of Van) along the way when he was going to battle with persians.
But never heard of what you say..
incase anybody is interested:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Chaldiran
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