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Russian tanks enter South Ossetia
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12 Aug 2008 Tue 10:25 pm |
But you didn´t find it laughable when Turkey insisted we help them in Northern Iraq with the PKK. Again, this is the same logic that terrorists use.
But do you think is it the same with the current issue?
And Saarkasvili is very guilty at this step!! He was having bad times at Georgia and he wanted to gurantee next elections with such a stupid move!!!
Russia was very jealous of the pipe line Baku-Tibilisi-Ceyhan and now they have chance to hit it wrongly
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12 Aug 2008 Tue 10:40 pm |
Didn´t handsom disagree with bombing Northern Iraq? And of course it is very laughable and utter hipocricy when US and UK preach about what is acceptable. The whole world protested against their actions and they didn´t change anything. It´s pathetic.
I don´t recall whether handsom agreed or not. But we were pressured from Turkey´s goverment to help and we did. Whether you think it´s hiprocricy or not, it doesn´t diminish what is going on in Georgia. We could sit here all day and discuss the U.S. did this and the Ottoman Empire did that. Right now we still have countries who look to us to help resolve problems and issues, whether you like or not, it´s reality.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_equivalency
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12 Aug 2008 Tue 10:44 pm |
But you didn´t find it laughable when Turkey insisted we help them in Northern Iraq with the PKK. Again, this is the same logic that terrorists use.
As catwoman said, I never supported Turkey´s incursion into Northern Iraq. But it is not the issue here.
Your administrations, your country committed the biggest terrorist activities in the world.
You have committed the biggest war crimes since the end of the second world war.
USA´s actions caused millions of people dead in all over the world.
Your country is still occupying 2 foreign countries, which are, god knows how many miles from your own soil.
And now, your president says "unacceptable in the 21st Century".
Dont you see that he is funnier than late iraqi information minister?
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12 Aug 2008 Tue 10:46 pm |
Well yes... Ottoman Empire was invading other countries for their resources, US invaded Iraq for their resources, Russia is invading and I am sure that when China grows stronger, it will invade Taiwan and who knows what else. That is how it is. Only now, Turkey is pointing out injustices, when they are on the receiving end, same with everybody else.
We were simply saying that for Bush to tell Russia that what they do is wrong is as if Saudi Arabia was preaching on human rights violations in the UK (which they did).
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12 Aug 2008 Tue 10:49 pm |
But we were pressured from Turkey´s goverment to help and we did.
I guess it was a little different, Turkish Army Forces was doing an operation in Northern Iraq and after the cries Iraqi governers you decided to have a move... and then after meetings you wanted to share your informations where to bomb when etc...
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12 Aug 2008 Tue 10:51 pm |
Well yes... Ottoman Empire was invading other countries for their resources, US invaded Iraq for their resources, Russia is invading and I am sure that when China grows stronger, it will invade Taiwan and who knows what else. That is how it is. Only now, Turkey is pointing out injustices, when they are on the receiving end, same with everybody else.
We were simply saying that for Bush to tell Russia that what they do is wrong is as if Saudi Arabia was preaching on human rights violations in the UK.
so if i use a drug, i cant say using drugs is harmful? you mean this?
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12 Aug 2008 Tue 10:55 pm |
so if i use a drug, i cant say using drugs is harmful? you mean this?
It is not the same!!! If you used drugs, you are only harming yourself, not other people.
This is more like "imagine the pope ordering mass murders somewhere and then telling muslims that murdering people is unacceptable". Yes, it makes a difference that a world leader says it, not an average joe.
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12 Aug 2008 Tue 11:01 pm |
It is not the same!!! If you used drugs, you are only harming yourself, not other people.
This is more like "imagine the pope ordering mass murders somewhere and then telling muslims that murdering people is unacceptable". Yes, it makes a difference that a world leader says it, not an average joe.
First of all, you harm all the people around you with using drug not only yourselves!
secondly, you cant say that Bush´s saying is wrong! It sounds so tragic and funny but he says right!
What is done in Georgia or Osetia is not right... it sounds like a bit playing with words.
Yeah wish there was no war but the weapon industry is a very very big economical source for the country you live on now... and some other countries... as long as you continue producing weapons there will be wars...
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12 Aug 2008 Tue 11:17 pm |
First of all, you harm all the people around you with using drug not only yourselves!
secondly, you cant say that Bush´s saying is wrong! It sounds so tragic and funny but he says right!
What is done in Georgia or Osetia is not right... it sounds like a bit playing with words.
Yeah wish there was no war but the weapon industry is a very very big economical source for the country you live on now... and some other countries... as long as you continue producing weapons there will be wars...
Of course what he said was right..
But it is a situation like Hitler talking about ´genocide, crime against humanity´ really.
Can you imagine Hitler was lecturing the world about genocide and racism?
(Or osama binladin is lecturing the world about terrorism)
Would you not laugh at the irony? (I would)
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12 Aug 2008 Tue 11:41 pm |
Of course what he said was right..
But it is a situation like Hitler talking about ´genocide, crime against humanity´ really.
Can you imagine Hitler was lecturing the world about genocide and racism?
(Or osama binladin is lecturing the world about terrorism)
Would you not laugh at the irony? (I would)
For osama bin laden and terror
i will give this link and strongly recommend to watch it...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1166827/
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12 Aug 2008 Tue 11:45 pm |
Well yes... Ottoman Empire was invading other countries for their resources, US invaded Iraq for their resources, Russia is invading and I am sure that when China grows stronger, it will invade Taiwan and who knows what else. That is how it is. Only now, Turkey is pointing out injustices, when they are on the receiving end, same with everybody else.
We were simply saying that for Bush to tell Russia that what they do is wrong is as if Saudi Arabia was preaching on human rights violations in the UK (which they did).
catwoman, can you let us know what kind of resources ottoman was invading other countries for?
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