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Why criticism of Islam is a necessity
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15 Aug 2008 Fri 09:25 pm |
For same reason we dont joke or mock about our parents,our mother,our father !
And dont accept it also from others.
You would not like our comedians then Canli, they joke about everything including their mothers and fathers. It´s not seen as an insult, unless of course your having a heated discussion.
One thing that I noticed on the Last Comic Standing, a tv show here in the states they had a Muslim woman, she was making jokes about her culture, religion etc. and could laugh at some of these things. She was quite entertaining and refreshing and actually made it in the top 20.
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15 Aug 2008 Fri 09:29 pm |
Bad eyes....my mother is to blame! hahaha
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15 Aug 2008 Fri 09:41 pm |
You would not like our comedians then Canli, they joke about everything including their mothers and fathers. It´s not seen as an insult, unless of course your having a heated discussion.
Yes,i know tea,last year or so,i have received an email from a friend ´not Muslim btw´and he sent me a clip,he thought it was funny
İt was about Christ singing Gloria Gaynor´s song,I will survive .
He was Christian,and he thought its funny,i am Muslim and i thought its inappropriate
He has sent it to many of his friends,i havent sent it to any.
As you see,we see things differently.
We dont joke or mock by our believes.
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15 Aug 2008 Fri 09:47 pm |
One thing that I noticed on the Last Comic Standing, a tv show here in the states they had a Muslim woman, she was making jokes about her culture, religion etc. and could laugh at some of these things. She was quite entertaining and refreshing and actually made it in the top 20.
You mean she was/is making jokes about İslam,and Muslims believes although she is Muslim ?
No wonder that she made it in the top 20 back in the States
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15 Aug 2008 Fri 09:47 pm |
I missed their performance in The Netherlands last April, but o boy, I wish I could go there. I saw previews and they are joking, mocking, being sarcastic, cynic etc. about anything.
http://www.allahmademefunny.com/
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15 Aug 2008 Fri 09:50 pm |
Sry,but what do you mean by that ?
We call it respect.
First, respect you don´t deserve, you have to earn it (a proverb in my country).
Second, if anyone has to respect your feelings while you react everytime as bitten by a snake, there is no discussion, open and honest, possible.
(You = common, not personal)
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15 Aug 2008 Fri 10:03 pm |
You mean she was/is making jokes about İslam,and Muslims believes although she is Muslim ?
No wonder that she made it in the top 20 back in the States
She is known throughout the world as the first female Muslim comedian in the UK. Not only was she a hit in my country, she makes a living of this traveling throughout the world. So apparently she has a diversed audience.
http://www.sholayevents.com/shazia_manhattan.htm
By the way your message could be seen as an insult as well, if I was that sensitive. But I´m not! So do you think all Americans liks to joke about Muslims?
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15 Aug 2008 Fri 10:11 pm |
First, respect you don´t deserve, you have to earn it (a proverb in my country).
(You = common, not personal)
İ agree with that regarding communication,relationship between people....ect
But could you explain to me please,how would a religion,that you do NOT believe in,or you think it doesnt suites you,not logic...ect can earn your respect ?!
For someone or something to earn your respect,should convince you, find and see the logic in it,if you are convinced by other religion, find logic in it....then how come you believe in yours and not in it ?!
İm sry,but it cant work ´İm Muslim and convinced that Christianity is logical and right choice,or im Christian and think that İslam is logical and right choice ´
İts either this or that.
So actually regarding religion,we respect other people´s choices
Religion who earn your respect,you will believe in.
Second, if anyone has to respect your feelings while you react everytime as bitten by a snake, there is no discussion, open and honest, possible.
Should we insult each other believes so we can have an open and honest discussion ?!
You should say ´your prophet is gay´ so we can discuss things openly ?
How can someone be gay and womanizer at same time,huh ?!
Unless its just a matter of calling names not seeking any open discussion.
İf you want to discuss anything with anyone,you should first respect his opinions ´not believing in them´ and then will be a ground for debat
But once you start to call names,and claiming its an open discussion,it will end up in nothing but exchanging insults between people,and you can hardly call that , open and honest discussion.
PS: You is generally speaking, not personal
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15 Aug 2008 Fri 10:12 pm |
First, respect you don´t deserve, you have to earn it (a proverb in my country).
Second, if anyone has to respect your feelings while you react everytime as bitten by a snake, there is no discussion, open and honest, possible.
(You = common, not personal)
I think perhaps another term you may better understand is
manners
I personally feel everyone deserves respect until they prove to me they don´t.
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15 Aug 2008 Fri 10:18 pm |
By the way your message could be seen as an insult as well, if I was that sensitive. But I´m not!
That only if it wasnt true
So do you think all Americans liks to joke about Muslims?
Well,not all Americans,but most i guess
As i cant say all Americans hate/dislike Muslims,but most.
But,i believe you ought to know better,so doesnt most of the Americans like to joke about Muslims ?
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