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Will non-Muslims go to heaven too?
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11 Oct 2008 Sat 12:45 pm |
Intresting subject!!
.... You might find this question totally irrelevant — and I would totally understand that. There might be a thousand valid reasons. Maybe you are a secular person who doesn´t believe in metaphysical categories such as heaven or hell. Maybe you are a Hindu who rather believes in Karma — a system of reward and punishment in this world, not somewhere else. Or maybe you are a deist who just believes in a Creator, but no revealed religion. Then, you would really not spend time contemplating what happens to which faith community after death. ...... Of course, both Islam and Christianity say that it is only God who has the ultimate authority and knowledge about these matters. But, on the other hand, both religions have an exclusivist tradition, which says that only their own followers will be saved. No wonder, for most evangelical Christians, there is no way to God other than via Jesus Christ. And for many Muslims, there is no other way to salvation other than that of Prophet Muhammad.
As a Muslim, I have always thought so, and I have a good reason for it: There are verses in the Koran which explicitly say that all people who believe in God and do good things will be saved. Here is, for example, verse 62 of the second sura, i.e., chapter:
....the divine text by noting that Jews, Christans, Sabians and others will be saved once they profess Islam. Yet this doesn´t make sense, because if they convert to Islam, then they are no longer Jews, Christians or Sabians, but Muslims.
When I noted this contradiction to a strongly exclusivist Muslim scholar a few years ago, I got a political rather than a theological answer. What will happen do you think if we say non-Muslims are saved, too, he asked. Then there will be no need for conversion to Islam.
Apparently the question boils down to what kind of a God we believe in: one whose grace and mercy is all-encompassing, or one who favors only our own tribe I tend to believe in the former. To be sure, I can still say that my religion is the best way to God — but it may well be not the only way.
the rest of the article: http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/editorial.php?ed=mustafa_akyol
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11 Oct 2008 Sat 12:50 pm |
A very interesting article H. Personally I believe the reason all cultures created a heaven is because humans cannot stomach the fact that we die. Whilst we can grasp the fact that animals and plants die, we are unable to concieve of our existence coming to an end. Mortality is, indeed, a terrifying fact.
A "hell" concept is very useful to keep law and order within a community - nothing more, nothing less.
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11 Oct 2008 Sat 01:54 pm |
A very interesting article H. Personally I believe the reason all cultures created a heaven is because humans cannot stomach the fact that we die. Whilst we can grasp the fact that animals and plants die, we are unable to concieve of our existence coming to an end. Mortality is, indeed, a terrifying fact.
A "hell" concept is very useful to keep law and order within a community - nothing more, nothing less.
Absolutely right
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11 Oct 2008 Sat 02:06 pm |
Of course I don´t agree with this at all. I do believe in heaven and I also strongly feel we all have a purpose why we are here on this earth and it´s just not science. I tend to think no matter what relgion you are, as long as you have lived a healthy life and try to live by God´s words a heaven awaits us all. I don´t believe it´s fear for people, but rather hope. Like I have always said I would rather take my chances and believe in something and reap the rewards than take the risk of never knowing what heaven could be.
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11 Oct 2008 Sat 02:11 pm |
Like I have always said I would rather take my chances and believe in something and reap the rewards than take the risk of never knowing what heaven could be.
Heheheh that is not faith!!!! That is called "hedging your bets"
How can you call yourself a christian, if you don´t actually believe it, but do it do insure the possibility of after-life!
You are among good company..... churches are filled with old people who suddenly realise death is near and hedge their bets in the same way as you!
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11 Oct 2008 Sat 02:18 pm |
Heheheh that is not faith!!!! That is called "hedging your bets"
How can you call yourself a christian, if you don´t actually believe it, but do it do insure the possibility of after-life!
You are among good company..... churches are filled with old people who suddenly realise death is near and hedge their bets in the same way as you!
Interresting coming from someone who has no faith, how do you know what faith is? Let´s see I call myself a Catholic, based on all of the sacraments I have made in my life given the fact I go to church on Sundays and that I believe in God and try to follow his teachings. As far as hedging your bet´s...doesn´t look like I could loose now does it. What do I have to loose? Sounds like a good bet to me.
What´s even more interesting to me is why someone like yourself is so afraid to believe? How do you base your spirtuality? I can´t fathom having no spirtuality in my life...to each it´s own.
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11 Oct 2008 Sat 02:18 pm |
Heheheh that is not faith!!!! That is called "hedging your bets"
How can you call yourself a christian, if you don´t actually believe it, but do it do insure the possibility of after-life!
You are among good company..... churches are filled with old people who suddenly realise death is near and hedge their bets in the same way as you!
you undoubtedly deserve going to hell
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11 Oct 2008 Sat 02:25 pm |
Interresting coming from someone who has no faith, how do you know what faith is? Let´s see I call myself a Catholic, based on all of the sacraments I have made in my life given the fact I go to church on Sundays and that I believe in God and try to follow his teachings. As far as hedging your bet´s...doesn´t look like I could loose now does it. What do I have to loose? Sounds like a good bet to me.
What´s even more interesting to me is why someone like yourself is so afraid to believe? How do you base your spirtuality? I can´t fathom having no spirtuality in my life...to each it´s own.
Of course I am aware what faith is!!! I was christened and attended church as a child and blindly believed in the same way as you. Then I got older and became interested in all religions and found that the more I discovered, the less I believed.
Going to church on Sundays does not make you a Christian! Where in the bible does Jesus ask you to go to church on a Sunday?
It sounds like a good bet to you? You may as well worship the spaghetti monster
A life without spirituality is no different from yours - I can still appreciate all the wonder of life and the miracles of this world - I just dont believe they have been created by your mythical "god". I see evolution, not a big one-creation. Evolution is a miracle of life in itself - there is no need to attribute a "god" to it
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11 Oct 2008 Sat 02:26 pm |
you undoubtedly deserve going to hell
Yeah
Ama.... I will be in good company
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11 Oct 2008 Sat 07:32 pm |
I think this topic is a little bit skewed... it should read "Will non-Christians go to heaven too"!!! It is an interesting topic, since Turkey is predominantly Muslim... I wonder if they will also go to heaven...
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