sorry, canim, i wasnt offended by chipmunk at all. would you get offended if he told you the same? he is just a little boy. i think he has never smelt the rotten fish. he just barks at anyone.

he is not a problem to me. my problem is libra, alameda, canli who were happy out of his rude comments.

 Yes I saw that you were not offended. However, many women are offended when this kind of demeaning sexual reference is used to put us in our place.

I dont defend you, I defend women...

 Good... perhaps you have an idea of what REAL liberated women feel when this misogynistic crap is uttered and people like you laugh at it

what he said was primitive rather than funny.

but you and i  have different mentalities.

So you feel yourself like a "REAL" liberated woman.

Has anyone talked you about being humble as well?

This kind of real liberated woman usually need to degrade other women that do not fit her narrow world in every occasion to feel "more liberated".

It more sounds to me that you have complexes.

Is it just disgusting sexual put-downs you find funny?  Or can we look forward to you laughing at religious/cultural ones in future too?

 ok ok

i didnt realize that.

but you see women like mltm canli libra peacetrain or alameda didnt get offended, they rather enjoyed it. are they women? what do you think? what makes them happy when idiots like chipmunk humiliate women? do they have psychological problems?

It wasn´t his posts that were funny, it was the spectacle of Cynicmystic and thehandsom, two grown men,  arguing "in the playground" that was funny.  It always amuses me, the way Turkish TC men seem to get so offended and insulted so very quickly and begin to scream like banshees or cry like babies.  The obscenity that C aimed at Femmeous was disgusting and wasn´t funny, but there were other facets that were.

As for C´s post here on this thread, it seems to me it wasn´t his opinion but a deliberate act to wind certain people up and I´m afraid he´s already hooked you Aenigma. Job done as far as he´s concerned.  He´s found an irritation and he´s inflaming it quite successfully.  No I don´t agree with that  and those particular posts of his are best  ignored for what they are, rubbish.

 I think C´s political posts are extremely well put together and I agree with his main argument regarding  thehandsom, that (in the politics forum) he posts material in order to attract heated debate from certain other members.  If H wants to do that let him, and if people want to challenge him about it, let them too.  H may dispute this charge  but it´s the way I interpret his political comment.  It´s not so much his views but the way he goes about goading then attempting to ridicule.

Having said all of that, I enjoy reading many of the arguments that H participates in because it gives me, a non Turk, an incite into the history of the conflicts in Turkey.  It doesn´t help me to make any judgement about these conflicts though as there seems to be so much evidence that can be produced for either argument. 

  As I read the exchanges it was the visions I conjured up in my own mind that amused.  Two silly, egotistical men determined to have the last word. 

Perhaps there may also have been some private pickling going on.  Liver pickling.

 you dont know what it is to be liberated or free. you dont fit into democracy. you are limited thus you react and speak as you do often.

it reminds me hairy´s saying about a donkey that has big beautiful eyes, but still a dnokey even in the west.

 Well maybe SOME of them do!

Sorry, but women who enjoy all the benefits of equality but continue to perpetuate stereotypical ideas about gender, deserve to be put in burkas, lose their vote, be beaten by their husbands, raped and enjoy all the other benefits of a male dominated society

 It really wasn´t funny at all, no matter who it was aimed at.  Even if femmeous wasn´t offended it was the right decision to delete, as were the references to a sexual act.