These arrogant assumptions only make me laugh.

Well..

Apart from emotional part, I am against buying sex with the same view that I am against goverments buying weapons really.

Basically, paying for ´it´ is the starting point of the whole industry of prostitution which ultimately brings the whole degradation of women, rapes etc..

And about Why can´t it be between two complete strangers?. Of course it can be..I am not against it. But ´buying it´ is not the same as sex between two complete strangers..

I would rather prefer a woman goes down on me because she wants to, not because I paid her to do it..

So you favour guys who are taking it for free? Forced or by making empty promises for a ´real relationship´ and then leaving. I don´t honour the guys who pay but I find them more honest then the other two categories.

 Here´s some quotes from someone I think most in the UK have heard of , Cynthia Payne:

*By 1980, when I came out of prison, The Sun did a campaign to stop putting vice girls in prison. We´ve talked about it ever since and nothing has been done about it.


*Every time we had a raid, I´d get a boyfriend out of it. 


*Galvanised into action by the second trial, I was determined to change Britain´s archaic sex laws.


*I allowed the scriptwriter to come to my parties for research and it´s a good thing he did otherwise I don´t think Personal Services would´ve been so good.


*I always seemed to fall in love with policemen.


*I think all old folk´s homes should have striptease. If I ran one I´d have a striptease every week.


*I´m glad I haven´t married - I crave excitement.

*If men want sex they´ll find it.


*It´s been a rollercoaster life but it hasn´t been boring. 


*Like I said in my election manifesto - why don´t they legalise the whole thing and let people like me work?


*My biographer said that my parties reminded them of a vicarage tea party, with sex thrown in. 


*Once the film came out everyone wanted me, including George Michael.


*Vicars, MPS and lawyers were among those who considered me to be the best hostess in London. 


*When I look back at the 1980s I pinch myself. Did I really do all that?

This is quite interesting too, from the same lady, even funny:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2004/mar/25/features11.g22

Of course it is terrible that there are women forced into prostitution by men, but anyone is naive who doesn´t believe that there are women  who can actually think for themselves and decide to go into prostitution (or do anything else for that matter) on their own terms, without a conscience or regrets.

However did women get the idea that they should be allowed to vote?  Was it handed to them on a plate?  Absolutely not. 

btw  I´m against prostitution but I can´t see how it will ever be abolished and perhaps a lot of thought needs to be given to the safety of these women both physically and healthwise.  Thought should also be given to the wives of the men who visit prostitutes . . . their health should not be compromised because of the actions of their husbands. 

Since Cynthia Payne was no more than a female "pimp" or "madame", and the only "hands on" action she saw was to allow men to pay her to lock them in boxes and whip them, I hardly think she is a good example of the devastating effects of prostitution...

You are talking about sex as if it is a ´good´ up there..

as far as "making empty promises for a ´real relationship´ and then leaving" is concerned,  Turkish  men (we) are quite good at it.

So be extra careful..

It is, isn´t it? Many business, political and domestic ´deals´ are made with or through sex. Nice if you want to see it as something sacred but surprise.... in many cases there is a ´but/if´ behind.

In this case I wasn´t thinking about Turks. You guys don´t have the performing rights only.

Then we will talk about sex industries in those societies once we see how they work. The driving force for the current shape of them is not a willing, respectful transaction, that´s why it´s wrong.

Of course we favor people who do it for free, because then there are no expectations about having to do something you don´t actually want. You can always refuse anything without any repercussions.

The issue of false promises is a different issue, has nothing to do with the problem of prostitution.

 CW = Royal plural?

cranky today?