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RUMORS THAT TURKISH HUSBAND ARE VERY JEALOUS?
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60.       libralady
5152 posts
 11 Feb 2009 Wed 11:02 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 

 

 alameda, just because people don´t naturally feel jealousy doesn´t mean that they don´t have any emotions at all.  If this happened to me, I would be hurt and angry.....not jealous. What would be the point of being jealous after finding out that your significant other has already betrayed you.  For me, the relationship would be over.  Much of my energy would be spent on healing......not jealousy.

 

Elizabeth, repeat after me:

 

we are jealous, we are jealous, we are jealous.................... well if you chant a mantra long enough you believe it? {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

 

61.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 11 Feb 2009 Wed 11:39 pm

 

Quoting libralady

 

 

Elizabeth, repeat after me:

 

we are jealous, we are jealous, we are jealous.................... well if you chant a mantra long enough you believe it? {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}

 

 

 OK, alameda says I am so I must be....maybe if I say it enough I will believe it.

62.       mltm
3690 posts
 12 Feb 2009 Thu 12:35 am

 

Quoting alameda

 

 

 See Elisabeth...you ARE jealous! You may choose to not define it that way, but the reality of the situation is, you do not want to share the special affection of your beloved´s affection with anyone else.

 

I think what we have is a different understanding of the semantics involved with the word "jealousy".  You do not want your relationship threatened with the loss or diversion of your beloved to another, you do not want to loose the love you have.

 

Being jealous does not mean you become obsessed and insane, that is something else again. In the "West" being jealous is considered uncool.

 

I am jealous and not ashamed in the least about it.  I would not try to keep the affections of my beloved by force, that is sure to suffocate the love.

+1 alameda

 

Jealousy has always been seen as something negative, and something some people feel ashamed of even if what they feel is something that can be described as jealousy.

 

Maybe because of different perceptions.

 

I´ll give an example to show that it does not mean that you do not trust your partner.

 

Forexample you are in a pub or restaurent wherever, a girl approaches to your boyfriend and becomes too close to him even if your bf is not interested at all, and you know totally that he would not cheat on you or even look at any girl else you. You would feel disturbed and angry against this girl. And I call it "jealousy".

But if you call your bf a few times to check him when he´s in a pub with his friends, this is jealousy as well but the kind of jealousy that is caused by lack of trust.



Edited (2/12/2009) by mltm

63.       alameda
3499 posts
 12 Feb 2009 Thu 01:34 am

 

Quoting mltm

 

+1 alameda

 

Jealousy has always been seen as something negative, and something some people feel ashamed of even if what they feel is something that can be described as jealousy.

 

Maybe because of different perceptions.

 

 

 

 I think there is not really a clear definition in the English language of the word jealous. It is often confused with envy, which is quite another unrelated emotion. Envy is to be avoided, while being jealous is natural.

 

Being jealous does not mean you try to posess or control your beloved. I think this is one time that there is no word to describe what I mean. Often times words loose their meaning through common use. The word jealous comes out of the word zeal. Certainly people are zealous in their affection towards their beloved.

 

Etymology:
Middle English zele, from Late Latin zelus, from Greek zēlos
Date:
14th century
: eagerness and ardent interest in pursuit of something : fervor <her zeal to succeed strained her relationships>
synonyms see passion
 
If I were involved in a romantic relationship,  and my partner did not display some jealousy, or were so casual regarding our relationship. If they took my affection for granted, I would be upset and feel they really didn´t care.


Edited (2/12/2009) by alameda [clean up html]

64.       Trudy
7887 posts
 12 Feb 2009 Thu 08:16 am

 

Quoting mltm

 

I´ll give an example to show that it does not mean that you do not trust your partner.

 

Forexample you are in a pub or restaurent wherever, a girl approaches to your boyfriend and becomes too close to him even if your bf is not interested at all, and you know totally that he would not cheat on you or even look at any girl else you. You would feel disturbed and angry against this girl. And I call it "jealousy".

But if you call your bf a few times to check him when he´s in a pub with his friends, this is jealousy as well but the kind of jealousy that is caused by lack of trust.

 

According to your example I´m still not jealous. I wouldn´t dream of calling my partner several times when he´s out with friends. Why should I? And for that girl approaching him? I won´t be angry with her. I would feel sorry that she´s making a fool of herself trying to get someones attention who is clearly not interested.

65.       geniuda
1070 posts
 12 Feb 2009 Thu 07:36 pm

Quoting mltm

 

Forexample you are in a pub or restaurent wherever, a girl approaches to your boyfriend and becomes too close to him even if your bf is not interested at all, and you know totally that he would not cheat on you or even look at any girl else you. You would feel disturbed and angry against this girl. And I call it "jealousy".

Excuse me, but given this example why would I be "jealous"  if my boyfriend is not paying any attention to her?? .. but if the case would be that he is ignoring me and being more focus on her, then I would be dissapointed and most probably somehow angry at him{#lang_emotions_shy} because he is not being respectful ..it all depends on how the whole scenario looks like but If I really trust him why should I be jealous if he isnt interested in her?

Quoting mltm

 

But if you call your bf a few times to check him when he´s in a pub with his friends, this is jealousy as well but the kind of jealousy that is caused by lack of trust.

 

This is what I called "being an insecured person" !! it is clear that if you call your bf/gf several times while he/she is with friends is because you want to find out what is exactly what he/she is doing?. People who do this only show how insecured they are sometimes  towards their partner.

This is example  not being jealous (according to me, of course!!).

I have friends who have been happily married for years now  When we go out to pub just to have a couple of drinks,  I notice they dont get calls from their husbands every single minute...they know their husbands "trust" them as much as they trust their husbands.



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66.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 12 Feb 2009 Thu 08:11 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 

oh wait....it´s actually MY opinion so there is no supporting link. 

 

 Are we allowed to have those????{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

67.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 12 Feb 2009 Thu 08:12 pm

 

Quoting alameda

 

 

 See Elisabeth...you ARE jealous!

 

 This is a personal attack.  I have specifically stated in several posts that I am not jealous!  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

68.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 12 Feb 2009 Thu 08:13 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 

 

 Are we allowed to have those????{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 No but I´ve always been a bit of a rebel!  {#lang_emotions_ninja}

69.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 12 Feb 2009 Thu 08:13 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 

 

 This is a personal attack.  I have specifically stated in several posts that I am not jealous!  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}{#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

70.       Trudy
7887 posts
 12 Feb 2009 Thu 08:25 pm

 

Quoting girleegirl

 

 

it´s actually MY opinion so there is no supporting link. 

 

No supporting link? GG, how do you expect some people to understand what you say without one?

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