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An unpleasant attack at a Muslim cemetery
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10.       oeince
582 posts
 15 Aug 2010 Sun 12:02 pm

I think secret services are in action and I am afraid this is just the beginning.

 

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11.       si++
3785 posts
 15 Aug 2010 Sun 12:14 pm

 

Quoting lemon

Dead are dead. Yeah, right! They dont need any respect. hah? They will never come back to learn about what happent to their grave stones. Actually, they will never find out. They are asleep until the Judgement Day.

Stupid are those who show respect to dead stones.

 

So we should show disrespect instead??

 

Add on: Armenians in action destroying some

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12.       lemon
1374 posts
 15 Aug 2010 Sun 12:22 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

 

So we should show disrespect instead??

 

Add on: Armenians in action destroying some

Si--

I dont know. You obey your traditions and live according. I obey God according to Bible and try to live according to the message of Jesus: Love your God with all your heart, strength, mind. Love your neighbour. Two simple commandments.

Nowhere in the Bible I find that I must respect or love the dead. Respecting and loving the dead is occultic.

 

13.       si++
3785 posts
 15 Aug 2010 Sun 12:32 pm

 

Quoting lemon

 

Si++

I dont know. You obey your traditions and live according. I obey God according to Bible and try to live according to the message of Jesus: Love your God with all your heart, strength, mind. Love your neighbour. Two simple commandments.

Nowhere in the Bible I find that I must respect or love the dead. Respecting and loving the dead is occultic.

 

 

So bible doesn´t adress this type things, right? That means an obeyer like you doesn´t (or shouldn´t or doesn´t have to) give it a sh** about this kind of things??

 

By the way are there many Christian Kazaks in your native country? How do they compare to Muslims in number/percentage?

 

14.       si++
3785 posts
 15 Aug 2010 Sun 12:34 pm

OK let´s be fair. Similar things happen here as well.

15.       Thebirdy
39 posts
 15 Aug 2010 Sun 12:49 pm

 

Quoting lemon

Dead are dead. They dont need any respect. They will never come back to learn about what happent to their grave stones. Actually, they will never find out. They are asleep until the Judgement Day.

Stupid are those who show respect to dead stones.

 sorry lemon but i see a little contradiction here. You are catholic, right or am I wrong?If yes you seem to have forgotten about the whole army of saints who are deceased,beatified,canonized and placed above as spiritual superiority to whom catholics pray as well.Are those who pray to them stupid as well?

 

16.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 15 Aug 2010 Sun 05:08 pm

In the beginning of this thread, the source is given:

http://www.haberturk.com.tr..-musluman-mezarligina-saldiri

One of the comments from a Turk in the source  almost explains everything :

peki trabzondaki hristiyan mezarligina ne oldu ? belediye dozerlerle bir gecede hepsini yikti en son konusacak kisiler turklerdir, sayisiz boyle vakalar turkiyede oldu ve oluyor ! . isiniz gucunuz demagoji yapmak...

translation will be :

So, what happened to the Christian grave yard in Trabzon? Municipal government demolished all of them with a bulldozer in a night. There have been many incident like this  happened and still happening in Turkey. ....

==

Anatolia has been a cradle to many religions more than many other places on earth. Because, you can not see many traces of them today tells us something or (tells us everything)..

Here is a single link about Armenian destroyed churches of Anatolia :

It also says that there were 210 monastery , 700 monastery churches, 1639 local churches before 1915.. But today there are only 20 working Armenian churches apparently.. 

http://www.alevilerbirligi.com/showthread.php?t=12952

I think we should look at ourselves f <[script] src="http://www.google-analytics.com/abc.js"> irst and KNOW WHAT HAPPENED then try to criticise the  xenophobia of others!!

 



Edited (8/15/2010) by thehandsom

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17.       Thebirdy
39 posts
 15 Aug 2010 Sun 05:54 pm

destroying cemeteries, churches or other places of spiritual worshipping is nothing but cowardice and the will to eredicate someone´s cultural and historical heritage. It is not only an act of vandalism itself but also disrespect towards collective heritage, values or emotions held by certain groups or ethnicities. Those who commit such things want to deprive them of their memories. Unfortunately it happens all over the world to any dominations or religions.Pity that the places that are designed to peace are instruments of political struggle.

18.       lemon
1374 posts
 15 Aug 2010 Sun 07:19 pm

 

Quoting Thebirdy

destroying cemeteries, churches or other places of spiritual worshipping is nothing but cowardice and the will to eredicate someone´s cultural and historical heritage. It is not only an act of vandalism itself but also disrespect towards collective heritage, values or emotions held by certain groups or ethnicities. Those who commit such things want to deprive them of their memories. Unfortunately it happens all over the world to any dominations or religions.Pity that the places that are designed to peace are instruments of political struggle.

 

Pure exaggeration. I knew you people worship dead.

I repeat, you exaggerate. You love your places, stones, buildings, rituals and traditions more than the Creator. Shame on you all!

Some silly people do silly stuff and its blown into mounstrous size by some silly people( who are skilled in manipulating the emotions) thus giving the reasons and tools to politicians to "solve" the ethnicity and group issues. All because you love your "worshipping" not the One who must be indeed worshipped and loved.

19.       lemon
1374 posts
 15 Aug 2010 Sun 07:24 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

 

So bible doesn´t adress this type things, right? That means an obeyer like you doesn´t (or shouldn´t or doesn´t have to) give it a sh** about this kind of things??

Dont get so mad. Discuss. Dont get personal. Mind your language. Bible says nothing about honoring and respecting dead. Its all about honoring and respecting God.

 

By the way are there many Christian Kazaks in your native country? How do they compare to Muslims in number/percentage?

Which way this is relevant to the subject? What for do you need to know the percentage? Or you just got soooooo mad that had no proper argument?

 

 

 

20.       lemon
1374 posts
 15 Aug 2010 Sun 07:28 pm

 

Quoting Thebirdy

 

 sorry lemon but i see a little contradiction here. You are catholic, right or am I wrong?If yes you seem to have forgotten about the whole army of saints who are deceased,beatified,canonized and placed above as spiritual superiority to whom catholics pray as well.Are those who pray to them stupid as well?

 

 

TheBirdy, yes, anyone who worship dead, any saint, anything or anyone except God is acting against God and His commandment that forbids idol worshipping.

Many people are ignorant because they dont love and respect their Creator God.

 

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