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Flights are booked :)
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 11:12 pm |
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If you are English your English is better than mine. So please tell me what this sentence means: "I love Turkey". If 1000 native English had heard this sentence would 100% of them understand what the speaker meant? What did the speaker mean by the way, can you tell?
I would like to know how you would feel if we put you behind a table next to many tables and on every table there is one person sitting and there is a sign telling the origin or that person. We read the words Italy, Greece, France, Germany and than we look at your table we read the word "LLama".
LLama is another silly animal. Would you be proud carrying that name. Can you wear a t-shirt with that name printed on it? If you send your children to school and other children call them llama, llama and they come home crying are you going to be more happy?
If the teachers asks your 8 year old son where is he from and then he replies llama. There will be children in that classroom your haven't your country name Llama but they have heard the animal llama. How are they going to ack? Aren't they going to make fun of this?
Is there another country that is named after a silly animal?
Quoting mooncat: Turkey is turkey is turkey. has turkey got a thing about name changing? what happened to constantinople?
leave it as it is.. turkia looks and sounds stupid. i am english and have never in my life heard of turkia. why do poeple have to keep changing things. leave it as it is.. there is enough confusion in this world already. when i think of turkish people i think of turks. when i think of turkeys i think turkeys. plain. simple. |
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 11:21 pm |
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Quoting erdinc: If you are English your English is better than mine. So please tell me what this sentence means: "I love Turkey". If 1000 native English had heard this sentence would 100% of them understand what the speaker meant? What did the speaker mean by the way, can you tell? |
Of course we would know what the speaker meant..It's within the conversation that you know which type of turkey you are talking about.
For example, if you were talking about countries and someone said I love Turkey the listeners are going to think the country not the food...it's common sense!
If someone said they love Turkey as in the food then most of the time they would say 'I love eating turkey' and they wouldn't say it in a random conversation whilst talking about culture/geography/holidays etc.
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 11:24 pm |
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In swedish Türkiye is called Turkiet...just to add one more. 
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 11:27 pm |
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Kai, if your last name had been Turkey I doubt you would say the same things like you say know. Imagine your last name is Turkey. You go to some departments, schools, to somewhere , to anywhere and you continuously have to use the word Turkey because it is your last name. Are you going to be happy this?
If we follow your logic a person with the full name "Llama Turkey" would feel alright.
-What is your name sir?
-LLama Turkey.
-Oh, how nice. Where are you from sir?
-Republic of hen.
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 11:30 pm |
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 ozur dilerim, kusura bakma
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 11:33 pm |
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Quoting erdinc: Kai, if your last name had been Turkey I doubt you would say the same things like you say know. Imagine your last name is Turkey. You go to some departments, schools, to somewhere , to anywhere and you continuously have to use the word Turkey because it is your last name. Are you going to be happy this?
If we follow your logic a person with the full name "Llama Turkey" would feel alright.
-What is your name sir?
-LLama Turkey.
-Oh, how nice. Where are you from sir?
-Republic of hen. |
Actually to be quite honest I wouldn't care what my last name was, it wouldn't make a difference to me. Some people named their daughters London but they do not have a problem with it so why should a last name be any different?
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 11:35 pm |
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We pronounce it Türkiye here too,same as you do.
Well,cann't the Turkish government apply to the UN and ask to change its name in English ?
Or where can it be changed then ?
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 11:38 pm |
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kai,
You are still walking around and around but you don't answer the question. Would you be happy if you were in a foreign country and the natives make fun of your children because you children said in the classroom they are from LLama or they said they are from Hen.
Can you blame other children for making fun out of this since they didn't know about Republic of Hen and Republic of LLama?
It has been reported by Turks in the United States that other children at school make fun of their kids and call them turkey, turkey.
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 11:46 pm |
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Quoting erdinc: kai,
You are still walking around and around but you don't answer the question. Would you be happy if you were in a foreign country and the natives make fun of your children because you children said in the classroom they are from LLama or they said they are from Hen.
Can you blame other children for making fun out of this since they didn't know about Republic of Hen and Republic of LLama?
It has been reported by Turks in the United States that other children at school make fun of their kids and call them turkey, turkey. |
1) no such place as hen or llama THEY ARE ANIMALS!
2) You can't help what your last name is so even if it was 'poo' then their is nothing you can do about it unless you change your name
3) Yes children do get bullied about their names...but it happens everywhere and bullying happens not just because of their names....it could be because of the childs race/religion
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26 Oct 2006 Thu 11:53 pm |
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Quoting kai: 1) no such place as hen or llama THEY ARE ANIMALS! |
This is exactly what pople think when they hear the word Turkey. They think this is an animal. There are young people and there are children who don't know all the country names but they do know the animal. I used the words hen and llama just to create a smillar effect how it would have happened in reality.
It happens exactly like you have demonstrated. I think you have a problem with imagining a fictional condition. You don't even understand why I picked different and untouched words.
Imagine yourself in a position where you think the people you are speaking to are not going to understand what you really mean but then this thought only comes to your mind for a second. Everbody is waiting and your legs shake a little. You are very young. Probably you are eight years old. You don't wan't to speak to much but everybody is waiting. The teacher is waiting, your classmates are looking at you. All this happens in a few seconds but you think you are standing there silent for a few minutes.
After a short hesitation the word drops from your lips: llama.
Boom! Big surprise. This catches peoples attention and then somebody explains this is a country name. Other kids are not going to forget your country name now.
Because there is bullyiing at school doesn this mean we should give them one more reason. Even if there is no bullying is it very difficult to understand people might feel uncomfortable using that name?
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27 Oct 2006 Fri 12:05 am |
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Quoting erdinc: Quoting kai: 1) no such place as hen or llama THEY ARE ANIMALS! |
This is exactly what pople think when they hear the word Turkey. |
Actually for a fact I know if you mention the word Turkey to someone randomly they would think the country first. If I say the word Turkey to any of my friends they immediatly think the country and so do people I just meet.
Overall the majority of people think the Country before the animal. I don't see why Turkey is such a bad name it's just the english version of Türkiye as Germany is the english version of Deutschland!
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