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Flights are booked :)
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27 Oct 2006 Fri 04:36 pm |
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Quote: Hungary does not fit the endings criteria either! |
It does. "Y" comes after the consonant - like in Italy, Germany etc. Norwey is the exception, but now I cannot find how Norwegians call their country. If it's their orriginal pronunciation, then it's not an exception too (see my previous post, part about Dahomey). Anyway, the pronunciation is different - not /norwi/ but /norwei/, which suggests a different type of construction.
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27 Oct 2006 Fri 04:58 pm |
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Quoting duda: Quote: As for hindi (turkey) in Turkish. We call India as Hindistan and Indians as Hintli. They never ever remind me "turkey" when I use them in Turkish.
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I just reminded to hindi language. We say "Indijci" or "Hindusi" for people, but their main language is really hindi. They call it "hindi" themselves. Anyway, that was just a joke, and admit it doesn't reffer to this topic. Sorry. 
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We call Hindi language "Hintçe" in Turkish. So again there is no reminder of "hindi" (turkey).
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27 Oct 2006 Fri 05:30 pm |
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Turkia is a nicer name to use than Turkey, but dont blame the poor old turkey bird for this! I have said this before on another post, but will repeat it....the turkey (bird) is named after Turkey (the country) because when then were imported to the UK they would travel through Turkey to get to the UK. They are not dumb animals, they are one of the most intelligent birds, and are quite beautiful!
Animals are innocents. To describe them as "disgusting" or "dumb" is ignorant.
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27 Oct 2006 Fri 05:53 pm |
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Quoting erdinc: 3. There are many other country names in English that end with the same suffix -ia :
Albania Algeria Cambodia Gambia India Indonesia Latvia Macedonia Malaysia Namibia Romania Arabia Serbia Tanzania Armenia Bolivia Bosnia Colombia Liberia Russia Australia Austria Bulgaria Estonia Ethiopia Lithuania Mongolia Syria |
There are many names of countries ending in 'land' but you don't see it being called Turkland!
Also Tuvalu, Egypt etc are the only countries ending in 'lu' and 'pt' but they are not changing their name.
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27 Oct 2006 Fri 06:06 pm |
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Quote: the turkey (bird) is named after Turkey (the country) because when then were imported to the UK they would travel through Turkey to get to the UK. They are not dumb animals, they are one of the most intelligent birds, and are quite beautiful!
Animals are innocents. To describe them as "disgusting" or "dumb" is ignorant.
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What exactly dictionaries say:
turkey, a short for turkey-cock:
a bird of the family Meleagrididae: a large American bird (Meleagris gallopavo) originally distributed from southern Mexico throughout much of the eastern and central United States and northward into Canada.
turkey-cock: from confusion with the guinea fowl, supposed to be imported from Turkish territory.
(So, turkies are not from Turkia.)
One more reasonable theory about their name would be that "turkey" comes from ancient Greek "kourka" (κουρκα ) , which is in some Europan languages pronounced like "tchurka" and "tyurka".
Further: have you ever seen a turkey in a rain? It sits until it's drown, because it have no sense to get out from a puddle. If it happens to stay behind the open door of a shed, it will starve to death, because it doesn't know that it just has to turn around and go out of corner. I love animals, but wouldn't like to be compared with turkey-birds. In my country it's very offensive comparison.
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27 Oct 2006 Fri 06:14 pm |
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I never said they were from Turkey - I said they were imported THROUGH Turkey.
A case of mistaken identity resulted in the American Turkey being named after the country. When the Spanish first found the bird in the Americas more than 400 years ago they brought it back to Europe. The English mistakenly thought it was a bird they called a "turkey" so they gave it the same name. This other bird was actually from Africa, but came to England by way of the Turkey (lots of shipping went through Turkey at the time). The name stuck even when they realized the birds weren't the same.
Yeah I wont bother defending animals on any post again. How can I expect anyone to respect living creatures when they dont even respect other people...
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27 Oct 2006 Fri 06:39 pm |
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edit:
It's nice to see kids having fun
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27 Oct 2006 Fri 06:43 pm |
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What an absolutely ridculous argument over what we should or should not call Turkey.
And I agree with Kai on this one. When we talk about Turkey in the UK it is generally in the context of either we are talking about our holidays or it is Christmas and we are discussing food. When ever I have mentioned Turkey, on-one has said to me "do you mean the country or the bird".
As for names many children are teased about their surnames regardless of what it is.
Poor Bod, fancy opening a thread about going to Istanbul and it breaking out into a war of words - AGAIN! Bod I am jealous - enjoy Istanbul!!
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27 Oct 2006 Fri 06:46 pm |
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Quoting libralady: What an absolutely ridculous argument over what we should or should not call Turkey. |
May I take my hat off to this statement?
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27 Oct 2006 Fri 06:47 pm |
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Quote: Has anybody tried the online text to speech application that I mentioned in my last message? |
I don't know now which one is U.K. and which one is U.S.A. pronunciation, but I prefer the one that is pronounced "turKIA". Which one is closer to original pronunciation of Türkiye?
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