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Thread: Ataturk's contribution to Hollywood

1.       Erdem
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 12 Feb 2008 Tue 09:38 am

Quoting adonis:

Quoting catwoman:



Anyways, let's stop talking about Ataturk, I'm tired of him. It's more then enough to see his face everywhere you turn in TR..



1- if you are tired, why are u still in here?

2- are you admin of this site to stop this topic?

3-have you got a power to abolish Mustafa Kemal Atatürk from our hearts?

4- are you frightened from his nobility?




Thread: Two pennies for your thoughts ....!!

2.       Erdem
0 posts
 21 Jan 2008 Mon 09:40 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

I think it is even hard for moderators to stick to the rules:-

9. Avoid personal disputes and arguments. Personal correspondence postings should be kept at a minimum. Personal attacks or insults directed towards other users will not be tolerated. Basically if you don't have anything nice to say then just don't say it all. If somebody posts an insulting comment do not reply to it. It will only result in starting a flame-war. Instead, send a Private Message to one of the forum moderators and they will take care of it.

lol lol lol



I see you still dont understand what I mean. I am sure other members has already understood.



Thread: Two pennies for your thoughts ....!!

3.       Erdem
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 21 Jan 2008 Mon 09:37 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting Erdem:

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting Erdem:

As you know, there are lots of members who can start a thread but there are very few moderators to read your posts. But seems you want to help us about threads violating rules. It would be kind of you.



So the title of the thread just below about Muslim Atheletes passed you by? I thought you were "watching me" ?



I wish I had as much free time as you have to watch you.



Ahh yes, I really have NOTHING to do, as anyone who knows me will tell you.

I am curious though ...

(1) There is nothing in the Turkish Class rules about criticising or insulting Ataturk, and yet I once saw somebody deleted for it. This site is a US based site, but because it teaches Turkish language, are you saying we are subject to Turkish law???

(2) Why do you consider homosexuality to be an insult?

(NB. I have no reason to criticise Ataturk at all. My question is hypothetical)



1) I did not say you are subjected to Turkish law. You are subjected to Turkish class own rules which were not created by me. According to rules, to be deleted is very easy but nobody has deleted you so far although you broke too many rules. Once you already confessed that you broke rules. This shows that our aim is not to delete everything or everybody. All we want is to keep the peace.
Turkish class can be US based site but can you say there is not any Turk member here? Lots of around. I see you have written more than 3500 posts but you still dont know which can put people in temper. I dont want anybody to argue here. Forums are not where people argue and insult each other. I hope you understand me. Please dont ask me more about this topic, because I have already talked more than I needed.



Thread: Two pennies for your thoughts ....!!

4.       Erdem
0 posts
 21 Jan 2008 Mon 09:20 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting catwoman:

I think Erdem should lock the thread and write the reason for locking instead of deleting it, if he thought that there was a problem. I think that deletion is reserved only for severe insults and deleting threads that he doesn't agree with is a bit of a dictatorship.


I agree. And then the topics like 'why there was a problem and was it a problem really etc' should be allowed to be discussed.



You can start such a thread asking what the problem was and if it was really a problem. It is your right.



Thread: Two pennies for your thoughts ....!!

5.       Erdem
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 21 Jan 2008 Mon 09:16 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting Erdem:

As you know, there are lots of members who can start a thread but there are very few moderators to read your posts. But seems you want to help us about threads violating rules. It would be kind of you.



So the title of the thread just below about Muslim Atheletes passed you by? I thought you were "watching me" ?



I wish I had as much free time as you have to watch you.



Thread: Two pennies for your thoughts ....!!

6.       Erdem
0 posts
 21 Jan 2008 Mon 09:08 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

I have read the rules and can only see that the thread about Islam and Homosexualty contravened the rule about discussing religious topics. If this is the case, then why did you not delete the other threads about Islam on this site? Most recently about the muslim athelete, and others too numerous to mention.

Strangely, I can see nothing in the rules about discussing homosexuality, but I think this is the deeper reason.



As you know, there are lots of members who can start a thread but there are very few moderators to read your posts. But seems you want to help us about threads violating rules. It would be kind of you.



Thread: Two pennies for your thoughts ....!!

7.       Erdem
0 posts
 21 Jan 2008 Mon 09:02 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting teaschip1:

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting catwoman:

where did the thread on islam and homosexuality go...?



There was nothing in that thread as far as I know (may be something added later!!)..
It is not against 301 or anything!!
Why was it deleted?
Is it forbidden to discuss homosexuality in Islam or homosexuality in Ottomans?



I don't know, some guy named Erdem appeared and then poof it vanished. Maybe it had to do with me stating that I should assume Ataturk was not gay. He may not have agreed with this, who knows.


If it is true.
IT IS WRONG!! Respecting Ataturk is one thing.. (I do respect him for example. I find him heroic)
But trying to block something because of an artical written by ermenians is different.
It is censorship!!
It shows that we NEVER learnt what Ataturk was saying in the first place when he was talking about democracy and freedom..



What are your evidences to judge me? You say "IT IS WRONG!! Respecting Ataturk is one thing" What are other things? Yes, I respect Ataturk. You say you find him heroic. Is to find some heroic enough to show respect? I am sure there are lots of children who find Spiderman heroic. Do you think they respect Spiderman too?

I think you are talking about yourself while saying " we NEVER learnt what Ataturk was saying in the first place when he was talking about democracy and freedom.."

Please tell me the limits of democracy and freedom. Do you think democracy and freedom is unlimited? If so, why do we need laws?





Thread: Two pennies for your thoughts ....!!

8.       Erdem
0 posts
 21 Jan 2008 Mon 08:46 pm

Quoting catwoman:

I think Erdem should lock the thread and write the reason for locking instead of deleting it, if he thought that there was a problem. I think that deletion is reserved only for severe insults and deleting threads that he doesn't agree with is a bit of a dictatorship.



I am sorry I can't lock the thread. It is already a severe insult. If not, please tell me some severe insult examles so that I can understand how a thread or posts can be severe insult. On the other hand, you should read forum rules too.There it is obvious what to be deleted or not.

By the way, What is dictatorship? Do you think a dictator put laws into practice? You know Turkish Class has its own rules which were'nt created by me. Seems you dont know even meaning of the dictatorship.

Dictatorship
"In contemporary usage, dictatorship refers to an autocratic form of absolute rule by leadership unrestricted by law, constitutions, or other social and political factors within the state."

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dictatorship

By the way, isn't it an insult to say somebody a dictator?
I think this is not an insult again. Or it is an insult but you are not sure if it is an insult or not.



Thread: Two pennies for your thoughts ....!!

9.       Erdem
0 posts
 21 Jan 2008 Mon 08:28 pm

Quoting teaschip1:

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting catwoman:

where did the thread on islam and homosexuality go...?



There was nothing in that thread as far as I know (may be something added later!!)..
It is not against 301 or anything!!
Why was it deleted?
Is it forbidden to discuss homosexuality in Islam or homosexuality in Ottomans?



I don't know, some guy named Erdem appeared and then poof it vanished. Maybe it had to do with me stating that I should assume Ataturk was not gay. He may not have agreed with this, who knows.



Erdem appeared and then it vanished. Bravo! You are very careful.
Be sure that I did not delete it by being effected by your words. I wish I could find something to take into consideration from your words.



Thread: Two pennies for your thoughts ....!!

10.       Erdem
0 posts
 21 Jan 2008 Mon 08:16 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting catwoman:

where did the thread on islam and homosexuality go...?



There was nothing in that thread as far as I know (may be something added later!!)..
It is not against 301 or anything!!
Why was it deleted?
Is it forbidden to discuss homosexuality in Islam or homosexuality in Ottomans?



Have you read forum rules? I am sure you have not. It is easy to ask why it was deleted, who deleted, what was wrong with it etc before reading rules.

Read it then tell me if it is forbidden or not
http://www.turkishclass.com/TurkishClassRulesAndTerms.php



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