I don´t know what the Islamic punishment or rules are for ´false accusations of being raped´, (yes great system indeed) but mind you, it´s definitely not only girls that are raped, in the Islamic world too, like every other part of the world, rape of young boys happens too

I think with the ´daha fazla´ here, the English ´even more´ is meant.

I often have trouble translating ´fazla´ though, especially in this sense. If you love, ´missing too much´ would in English seem to me as nearly a bad thing! Does any native English person say ´I miss you too much´ or ´I love you too much´ in a positive way?

 Ben karþýlaþtým, özellikle dizilerde. Bazý dizilerde çok iyi çeviri yapýlýr, bazýlarýnda da gülecek (daha doðrusu aðlayacak) derecede hatalar oluyor. I can´t think of any, but I remember some rather funny ones (that got a complete different, and therefore very funny, meaning. I think it must have been in Las Vegas or Chuck series).

But I still think it is helpfull to learn Turkish by watching Turkish series/films with English subtitles and English series/films with Turkish subtitles.

Sleepy and an upcoming headache. No more vodka for me tonight

 Actually, as far as I know, in this case it have to be male witnesses (I don´t think 8 female witnesses are allowed in this case, but not so sure on this one), and they should not have had the intention to see it, and what they saw really has to be the coitus. It is nearly impossible to proove.

 I´ve seen a few news items about him on the Turkish television and also read of the editor you are speaking about. I was disgusted by it. Mostly by his dirty smile on television, when he was guided into a car from a building. He had the guts to deny it, and smile on television

And to consider a girl an adult at 14!! Yes, in ancient times that was rather ´old´ considering people weren´t becoming as old as we do, and the fact that us women still get our menstruation at such a young age shows that the humankind in the beginning was created to reproduce at a younger age. But times have changed. Just look at the development of several bodily/mental functions and the fysical shape of the female at 14, not fullgrown at that age in most of the cases. Some things do need change! In these times a female of 14 is not only mentally but also physically a child and should be judged accordingly.

 If you are referring to me, I don´t think I let myself get caught in any game around here, mainly because I don´t take everything so seriously. But I do enjoy being here and learn a great deal of how different people think

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Yes please I got bored of talking about you. Wanna have a vodka-cherry instead? I don´t have any icecubes though, it´s cold enough here as it is.

 Actually if you would read what some other people have been saying, you would find that they agree on a lot you say (at least I do!) only in a different way (at least I do!).

I am not bothered by your way of speech that much. You can also call me a crying baby, liar or ´diplomatic´ admin as much as you please. I can´t be bothered, you have a different way of speaking than I do (at least online ). But you should understand that not all people think that way, and if your first aim is to make people understand what you are saying, the more you shout, the less they will understand your point. Some people just work differently.

And I don´t think you lost (and Im sure you don´t think either ). I notice what you shout about and I couldn´t agree more, though you tend to generalize quite much, but I think the baseline of what you say is very true.

To be honest I don´t see the problem in posting links. You can click on them or not. I generally don´t have a look at them, unless I find the topic interesting and want to have a quick look at it. But I don´t think it is bothering to read, the only thing is that the colour of the letters becomes blue.

I don´t find it that patronizing either, because I don´t feel like I need to be lectured nor do I feel that is the aim of the links Alameda or anyone for that matter posts.

 I think both are nearly equally important. There is no use in making good points if you turn people away from wanting to listen to them. I am not easily offended and I dont mind people saying stuff about me, but especially in cases like this where you KNOW that they send you away anyway, you are not helping anyone by making comments that are supposed to change a mentality, if you dont take in account the current state of that mentality. If you want to help people (by a mentality change), then you should approach them in a way that fits them. Even if you think people should be able to deal with the raw words just as they are. I may not have a problem with that way of speech, but Im not the one who needs to be told those.