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Thread: the - man [-men] suffix in Turkish

5191.       tunci
7149 posts
 29 Sep 2011 Thu 02:58 pm

 

Now I know why are you so stubborn on your claim Si++, its because I mishighlighted the suffixes ; the right way should be as follows ;

 

Korkmak = to fear -----> Kork-ak ----> coward

Dilemek = to wish -----> Dile-k -------> wish

Kapamak = to close ----> Kapa-k -----> lid, cover

Yatmak = to sleep ------> Yat-ak -----> bed

this will end the debate i guess..you cant be still oppose ?

 

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Thread: the - man [-men] suffix in Turkish

5192.       tunci
7149 posts
 29 Sep 2011 Thu 02:47 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

 

Nope! Nope! Nope!


The -(i)k suffix in dile-k is not -ek suffix but the same suffix as in:

kes-ik

del-ik

yörü-k

büyü-k

tanı-k

san-ık

iste-k

dene-k

 

 

 

 I am not relying on one grammer book as you do. Seems like you are mixing apples with pears. Its quite simple , I am suprised that you are having trouble understanding it.

 

Dilemek = to wish

Dile [verb stem]

Dile + k [wish]----> only -k comes because the stem verb ends with VOWEL !

thats so simple..

note that I am not adding -ke , i am adding only -k !

 

 

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Thread: the - man [-men] suffix in Turkish

5193.       tunci
7149 posts
 29 Sep 2011 Thu 02:37 pm

 

Quoting Hindistan

 

 

Is it applicable to all verbs???

 

 No, It is not applicable to all verbs.{#emotions_dlg.sad} [unfortunately]

 



Thread: the - man [-men] suffix in Turkish

5194.       tunci
7149 posts
 29 Sep 2011 Thu 02:31 pm

 

The suffix -gan [-gen,-kan,-ken ]

This suffix make some verbs adjectives.

FORMULA ;

VERB STEM +  -gan [-gen,-kan,-ken ]

 

saldırmak = to attack -----> saldırgan [agressive, offensive]

sürünmek = to creep, to crawl ----> sürüngen [ reptant,creepy ]

iletmek = to pass ----> iletken [ conductive ]

yapışmak = to stick, to adhere ----> yapışkan [sticky,adhesive ]

 

 

 

 

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Thread: the - man [-men] suffix in Turkish

5195.       tunci
7149 posts
 29 Sep 2011 Thu 02:06 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

 

Nope! Nope! Nope!

 

Check a grammar book. Or if you say you have a grammar book and if it is telling what you say. Tell us its name. I´m curious.

 

My grammar book lists -ek and -(i)k separately.

 

They are not the same suffixes.

 

 Yep ! Yep ! Yep !

we are saying the same things...of course  -[e]k and [i]k, [ı]k, [u]k, [ü]k are listed seperately however -k [-[a]k,-[e]k] are same in that respect [its all to do with verb stem ending with vowel or consonant ]

 



Edited (9/29/2011) by tunci



Thread: bana yardim edebilir misiniz

5196.       tunci
7149 posts
 29 Sep 2011 Thu 01:50 pm

 

Rica ederim.Smile



Thread: the - man [-men] suffix in Turkish

5197.       tunci
7149 posts
 29 Sep 2011 Thu 01:42 pm

 

the suffixes "ık,ik,uk,ük "  make verb stems into more like adjectives

 

bitmek = to finish    ----> bitik [exhausted,worn out]

yanmak = to burn   -----> yanık [ burnt ]

solmak = to fade  ------> soluk [ faded,pale ]

 

 

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Thread: bana yardim edebilir misiniz

5198.       tunci
7149 posts
 29 Sep 2011 Thu 01:30 pm

 

Quoting elenagabriela

and what about for this one

 

Ben gelinceye kadar burada bekler misin?

would you [do you] wait here until I come ?

 

Ölünceye kadar kitap okumak istiyorum

I want to read book until I die [ all my life ]

 

On sekiz yaşına gelinceye kadar evlenmezsin

You cant get married until you get 18 [years old]

 

 

 

 



Thread: the - man [-men] suffix in Turkish

5199.       tunci
7149 posts
 29 Sep 2011 Thu 01:23 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

 

-k and -ak/-ek are not the same suffix.

 

For example:

 

Dilek: Dile-k

 

and

 

Yatak: yat-ak

Yatık: yat-ık

 

 -k comes when the verb stem ends with vowel [ Dile + k ]

-ak,ek comes when the verb stem ends with consonant [ Yat + ak, dön + ek ]

therefore they are same.

the suffixes "ık,ik,uk,ük "  are bit different, they make verb stem into more like adjectives.

 



Thread: the - man [-men] suffix in Turkish

5200.       tunci
7149 posts
 29 Sep 2011 Thu 01:13 pm

 

Bileşik zamanlı formlar ve "ol" yardımcı fiili ;

[ Compound tense forms and the auxiliary "ol-" ]

 

Git   -    miş                  ol -  acağ  -   ız      ---> Gitmiş olacağız

Go   - informed past   be - Future  - person [we]

We   will   have gone

 

 ****************************************

 

Dinlen  -- iyor                   ol  -- malı  --- sınız   ---> Dinleniyor olmalısınız.

Rest   -- Cont.Tense      be -- neces. -- you [plural]

You must be resting.

 

****************************************

 

Bitir ---- miş                   ol ---- ur -------    sun  ------> Bitirmiş olursun.

Finish -- informed past     be ---Aorist tense-- Person [you]

You´ll have finished.

 

 

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