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Nationalists target British holiday homes in Turkey
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24 Jul 2007 Tue 02:12 am |
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İm sorry but im kinda lost here,what do you mean exactly by Islamisms ?
İs it following the İslam values having Faith in them therefore being Muslim ?
Or doing the extreme to unacceptable level in the name of İslam which its far from it?
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24 Jul 2007 Tue 02:16 am |
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Quoting aslı: But in this case ı am asking to be removed too. |
aslı,i dont know you well,and i can say i dont agree with you much too,but as i saw from your profile you are a teacher, and you know better than to quit
Değil mi?
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24 Jul 2007 Tue 02:19 am |
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Quoting CANLI: İm sorry but im kinda lost here,what do you mean exactly by Islamisms ?
İs it following the İslam values having Faith in them therefore being Muslim ?
Or doing the extreme to unacceptable level in the name of İslam which its far from it? |
The latter one must have been referred to. The former one is just Islam (without any suffixes).
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24 Jul 2007 Tue 02:28 am |
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Quoting qdemir: Quoting CANLI: İm sorry but im kinda lost here,what do you mean exactly by Islamisms ?
İs it following the İslam values having Faith in them therefore being Muslim ?
Or doing the extreme to unacceptable level in the name of İslam which its far from it? |
The latter one must have been referred to. The former one is just Islam (without any suffixes). |
Thanks qdmir 
So,just to get things straight,catwoman didnt mean İslam and Muslims by saying İslamisms is the Western great eivl,right ?
And i mean about muslims people who really have faith in İslam not just Muslims by name .
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24 Jul 2007 Tue 02:37 am |
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Quoting CANLI: So,just to get things straight,catwoman didnt mean İslam and Muslims by saying İslamisms is the Western great eivl,right ?
And i mean about muslims people who really have faith in İslam not just Muslims by name . |
Canli, of course I didn't mean anything about Islam.
I'm sorry about the terrible sentence I said, I said it without real understanding of Turkish senstivities and in a different meaning then was taken. By the way, I admire Ataturk very much, I think he was the best leader that ever existed.
Hoping to correct the misunderstanding, I'd like to add that I did NOT mean that "Kemalism or Islamism are western evils", I was trying to be sarcastic and ask a question - "are they Western?" and "are they evil?" to challenge the fact that all "-isms" come from the West and that all "-isms" are bad. I actually used Kemalism as something good here.
I see that it was improper to say this, so I apologize for hurting some people.
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24 Jul 2007 Tue 03:20 am |
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Dear aslı and vineyards,
catwoman has just PMd me explaining the situation and being so sorry for causing so much confusion amongsts people. My personal opinion is that I find her message quite sincire and I put all these writings into a cultural conflict issue which both sides should possibly compromise.
Let me tell you a little true story about myself. I remember when I first went to the US back in 1993, I didn't speak English at all. I took an english class in the US and started learning so many English vocabulary words and tried to practice the new vocabulary words with native English speakers outside the class. One of the words that I had learnt was "accost". In dictionary it means "to ask a question", but it may also mean "to approach someone and bother his/her feelings", in other words "sarkıntılık etmek" in Turkish, which I learned later on. Anyway, I approached a really attractive lady siting at a cafe and said "Excuse me! Can I accost you?", and she was like "WHAT?. No way!"
This is what I call a learning process if someone is trying to find out more about a totally different culture. A cross-cultural learning process which sometimes can get very confusing. I guess catwoman has just found herself in one of those situations..
My personal feeling is that catwoman has learned something new about the Turkish culture although it seems that some feelings got hurt..and I understand that .. However, Like I have said, this is a learning process and I feel that this situation should be compromised.
aslı, vineyards and catwoman, please you all come back to this side with peace..there has been a total cultural misunderstanding and I am sure that catwoman has learned something new about the Turkish culture. I would expect catwoman , aslı and vineyard contact each other, sort this issue out peacefully...PLEASE....Life is really short..Let's calm down and become friends again..
Cheer up folks,
May peace be with you ..
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24 Jul 2007 Tue 03:32 am |
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24 Jul 2007 Tue 08:02 am |
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I don't understand what's so surprising about Catwoman's behaviour here. Using terrible sarcastic language towards Turkish people is her usual habit in the forum. Quite possibly, you might speak nonsense when you are trying to be sarcastic.
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24 Jul 2007 Tue 08:10 am |
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Quoting Gizli Yuz: I don't understand what's so surprising about Catwoman's behaviour here. Using terrible sarcastic language towards Turkish people is her usual habit in the forum. Quite possibly, you might speak nonsense when you are trying to be sarcastic. |
She apologized! Can you leave it in peace now, please?
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24 Jul 2007 Tue 08:14 am |
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Quoting Trudy: She apologized! Can you leave it in peace now, please? |
+1
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24 Jul 2007 Tue 08:23 am |
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What peace are you talking about? She will continue "criticizing Turkish people." and probably will not give up using sarcastic tone. What happened now is inevitable. And I told her so.
Now I have the right to put my thoughts about the issue.
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