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Nationalists target British holiday homes in Turkey
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24 Jul 2007 Tue 10:33 am |
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Quoting qdemir: Throughout the thread!(from the first page to the last), by the Turkish!(all Turkish users participating in the argument). The remarks of the Turkish about the UK and the USA, or any other country are regarded as INSULTS. However, your remarks about Turkey and the Turkish fall into the category of CRITICISM.
And also I really would like to know who that US member in question was. |
I used the word INSULT because that is what you call criticism. If you cannot take it, don't give it. And yes, actually I do find it insulting that somebody would ASSUME that I do not morn the dead in Iraq. I was very active in protesting about that "war" and strongly obeject to assumptions that state otherwise.
The US member was Kerekin.
http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_11_19520
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24 Jul 2007 Tue 10:34 am |
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Quoting aenigma x: Quoting Gizli Yuz: What peace are you talking about? She will continue "criticizing Turkish people." and probably will not give up using sarcastic tone. What happened now is inevitable. And I told her so.
Now I have the right to put my thoughts about the issue. |
I think you should try and see both sides here and just forget this.
Throughout this thread the UK and US have been insulted by the Turkish and a US member here has left the site because of it too!
I agree we should just calm down and put all this in context. |
yes US is hated in Turkey becasue but UK is not in the same position.
and it makes me crazy that people who loves Turkey change their mind about Turkey only because some idiots on this site.
But imagine that your countries have been under muslim armies' control and your innocent people are killed for nothing. it is what people see on tv everyday. you can not expect these folks to be very reasonable when those people are killed everyday. not only iraq.. also afgania, vietnam.it has been same since the begining of 20 th century. people here are tired now. that is why it is so easy to generalize all western people. i did the same when i saw a film about vietnam war.i said " i hate america and americans who vote those f.cking presidents" but then i realised that millions of Americans were against the war in vietnam. i realised it but for some people it takes a long time to realise it. and i think it is not Turkish or English or American. it is human thing. your fathers used to hate us 400 years ago 
in 1995 only 30 percent of people used to hate USA but now 80 percent of Turkish people (including myself) hate American State (government) it shows that only the wars make these people so aggressive.
i hope you don't get me wrong.it is too difficult to tell what i mean in English. you all have a nice day 
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24 Jul 2007 Tue 10:37 am |
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Quoting aenigma x:
I used the word INSULT because that is what you call criticism. |
Please...
I think the reason for Karekin's leaving (if she really left) is something different.
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24 Jul 2007 Tue 10:41 am |
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Quoting qdemir: Quoting aenigma x:
I used the word INSULT because that is what you call criticism. |
Please...
I think the reason for Karekin's leaving (if she really left) is something different. |
I think otherwise. Did you see her last few posts? And I am sure Vineyards will return - he has "left" before as well! So don't mourn too much 
The ironic thing here is that I protest against all the things you condemn me for. I speak up against racism, war and all wrongdoing of my country, but its so much more satisfying for you all to hate me eh?
Please continue to do so...nothing I say will ever change your narrow minded views ...
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24 Jul 2007 Tue 10:58 am |
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Quoting aenigma x: Quoting qdemir: Quoting aenigma x:
I used the word INSULT because that is what you call criticism. |
Please...
I think the reason for Karekin's leaving (if she really left) is something different. |
I think otherwise. Did you see her last few posts? And I am sure Vineyards will return - he has "left" before as well! So don't mourn too much
The ironic thing here is that I protest against all the things you condemn me for. I speak up against racism, war and all wrongdoing of my country, but its so much more satisfying for you all to hate me eh?
Please continue to do so...nothing I say will ever change your narrow minded views ... |
It is evident that the first 'you'(all) is plural. I am not sure the second 'you' is singular or plural. I hope it is singular and refers to me only, but not all Turkish users on here.
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24 Jul 2007 Tue 11:01 am |
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Quoting qdemir: Quoting aenigma x: Quoting qdemir: Quoting aenigma x:
I used the word INSULT because that is what you call criticism. |
Please...
I think the reason for Karekin's leaving (if she really left) is something different. |
I think otherwise. Did you see her last few posts? And I am sure Vineyards will return - he has "left" before as well! So don't mourn too much
The ironic thing here is that I protest against all the things you condemn me for. I speak up against racism, war and all wrongdoing of my country, but its so much more satisfying for you all to hate me eh?
Please continue to do so...nothing I say will ever change your narrow minded views ... |
It is evident that the first 'you'(all) is plural. I am not sure the second 'you' is singular or plural. I hope it is singular and refers to me only, but not all Turkish users on here.
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No, not all Turkish users Qdemir, but nice try  There are many TUrkish users on this site who don't share your views, and long may that continue 
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24 Jul 2007 Tue 11:09 am |
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Quoting aenigma x: Quoting qdemir: Quoting aenigma x: Quoting qdemir: Quoting aenigma x:
I used the word INSULT because that is what you call criticism. |
Please...
I think the reason for Karekin's leaving (if she really left) is something different. |
I think otherwise. Did you see her last few posts? And I am sure Vineyards will return - he has "left" before as well! So don't mourn too much
The ironic thing here is that I protest against all the things you condemn me for. I speak up against racism, war and all wrongdoing of my country, but its so much more satisfying for you all to hate me eh?
Please continue to do so...nothing I say will ever change your narrow minded views ... |
It is evident that the first 'you'(all) is plural. I am not sure the second 'you' is singular or plural. I hope it is singular and refers to me only, but not all Turkish users on here.
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No, not all Turkish users Qdemir, but nice try There are many TUrkish users on this site who don't share your views, and long may that continue |
I am glad to hear that. But you think all Turkish users hate you as you have stated above.
I don't hate you. You can cross over my name in your list.
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24 Jul 2007 Tue 11:13 am |
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Quoting qdemir: I am glad to hear that. But you think all Turkish users hate you as you have stated above.
I don't hate you. You can cross over my name in your list. |
Qdemir, when I said ALL I meant the Turkish posters on this thread who judge all UK and USA citizens so harshly. Of course you don't hate me (you don't know me) but rather than judge based on your country, I am judging you on your comments, which is fair I think, and therefore can state that you hate my country and therefore cannot tolerate my views. This hatred is evident and narrow minded.
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24 Jul 2007 Tue 11:21 am |
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Quoting aenigma x: Quoting qdemir: I am glad to hear that. But you think all Turkish users hate you as you have stated above.
I don't hate you. You can cross over my name in your list. |
Qdemir, when I said ALL I meant the Turkish posters on this thread who judge all UK and USA citizens so harshly. Of course you don't hate me (you don't know me) but rather than judge based on your country, I am judging you on your comments, which is fair I think, and therefore can state that you hate my country and therefore cannot tolerate my views. This hatred is evident and narrow minded. |
I do know you. You do know that very well.
Let's let other users evaluate the rest. The posts of every single user on here are available to any user who would like to view them.
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24 Jul 2007 Tue 11:34 am |
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Quoting qdemir: I do know you. You do know that very well.
Let's let other users evaluate the rest. The posts of every single user on here are available to any user who would like to view them. |
Qdemir, I can only say that if you knew me, you would not judge me by the actions of my government.
Of course anyone's posts are available for viewing.
I actually found your post rather sinister 
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24 Jul 2007 Tue 11:35 am |
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i think time to leave from TC,not easy to understand why peacfull commentes deleting on here?i think theres admistration faults on this site lately,so why people hurting each other.it was very nice to know new friends from different countries and cultures,and was really good to share opinions with all.İ wish all the bests for all Tc users,hope we can meet again on somewhere of friendship bridge dostlar....and now pls delete my membership dear admins,and i wish you all big success on this great journey with my all regards..
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