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80.       qdemir
811 posts
 24 Jul 2007 Tue 12:53 am

We don't, of course, have anything to say upon an apology. However, this has happened so often recently. Sometimes an apology, even a sincere one, can't suffice to repair some detrimental harms on people's hearts.

81.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 24 Jul 2007 Tue 01:00 am

Quoting qdemir:

We don't, of course, have anything to say upon an apology. However



Apparantly you did have something to say

82.       jenk
278 posts
 24 Jul 2007 Tue 01:00 am

Quoting mltm:

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting vineyards:

or if you state an opinion without knowing your subject, you are just ridding yourself of the burden of your own thoughts. Well, the problem is not your thoughts or the satisfaction you'd get when you are freed from them.



Quoting vineyards:

This is just how your minds are formatted by your educational systems and through the training you receive in your families.



I think perhaps you should direct these paragraphs at YOURSELF Vineyards.

Quoting vineyards:

The problem is that this world is currently drifting into a blood bath - a blood bath that will occur as a result of this nasty war of the civilizations. Korea, Kuba, Bolivia, Peru, Vietnam,tens of African countries Afghanistan, Iraq and now te target is Iran. Do millions of people who were killed in those countries mean anything to you?



This comment is outrageous. It only highlights your ignorance. I wont even honour this question with an answer.

If this is the mentality of the majority of Turkish people who post their views here, then I really don't think I will continue to take part in any discussion with you. I notice one member has already left the site because of your racist, nationalistic insults, and another may change his plans to join his fiance in Turkey. Aferin sana - job done!

I would suggest all EVIL WESTERNERS leave the nationalists to continue this "conversation" themselves.



Did he use the word "evil westerner"? I think you behave very emotionally here. We have also the right to critique the west because yes the west did and has been doing such bad things to the world. The east is not perfect either but why do we have to praise the west, and apologize for their big faults? You were saying this for the man-woman issues, the opressor and the opressed thing. It's the same we will ofcourse be more concerned about the west because they control the world.
We talk here mostly about politics, so I don't understand why you are so offended each time. These are realities, which do not appear probably on western medias.
And for the one who left the site ,if I'm not mistaken was because of her boyfriend.



That is not the case mltm. Just 5 minutes ago, catwoman responded and stated that "Islamisms and Kemalisms are western evils". And then vineyards got upset with that and then asked to be removed from this website. After that catwoman removed her statement from this thread since she is able to manipulate everything here.

83.       qdemir
811 posts
 24 Jul 2007 Tue 01:04 am

On her apology there is no need to mention what she has said. We assume that it was a sincere apology, and hope that such a thing won't happen again.

84.       mltm
3690 posts
 24 Jul 2007 Tue 01:08 am

Quoting jenk:



That is not the case mltm. Just 5 minutes ago, catwoman responded and stated that "Islamisms and Kemalisms are western evils". And then vineyards got upset with that and then asked to be removed from this website. After that catwoman removed her statement from this thread since she is able to manipulate everything here.



Thank you, I didn't see the posts deleted. Anyway I replied to another thing there as well.
I can agree that İslamism is not a good thing for the east itself too, any kind of non secularism is not good, but saying this for Kemalism We already know that it's one of the western politics to destroy Kemalism. But for it they need to destroy every turk on the planet I think.

85.       mltm
3690 posts
 24 Jul 2007 Tue 01:10 am

Quoting qdemir:

On her apology there is no need to mention what she has said. We assume that it was a sincere apology, and hope that such a thing won't happen again.



Why there's no need? Because she didn't mean it? The apology could be sincere but what she said before was sincere as well. Anyway, good night.

86.       jenk
278 posts
 24 Jul 2007 Tue 01:10 am

From my point of view, her apology is accepted. However, this does not give the right to add/remove things in a thread in anyway you like. My message was removed without a warning. Therefore, there is a broken link here and people are having difficulty understanding what is really going on and why one of the Turkish members is quiting for no reason..

87.       KeithL
1455 posts
 24 Jul 2007 Tue 01:16 am

Quoting jenk:

Hi vineyards,

no need to quit your membership..There has been a total misunderstanding here. I also apologize in lieu of everyone here..
Please stay..We need you here...You have made a great contribution to this website with translations and cultural informations..

please stay...



I can assure you that Akin will not be coming back. He is one of the finest people I know and I believe that no matter what the conversation (in person or on-line) his aim is never to ridicule or insult anyone unless he has been insulted first. I too think that he is the greatest loss of this site in a long time. Most of his on-line posting was helping others, not politics. Good luck filling the good work he did here.

88.       KeithL
1455 posts
 24 Jul 2007 Tue 01:22 am

And just so the site managers are aware, making the statement that "Kemalism" is a created, western evil is criminal in Turkey. I would expect comments like these to be made by those that oppose Turkey, not by those who are here supposedly promoting it.

89.       aslı
342 posts
 24 Jul 2007 Tue 01:56 am

I cant believe tha we all keep staying this site. One of site's admin insults founder of our Turkish republic M.Kemal Atatürk in Turkish Language Class. Site believes that removing the message and dry apology would be enough. I wish before we left they could remove catwomen. But in this case ı am asking to be removed too. I am not a big loss like vineyards but ı know someone will miss me too. Dig in your hate hole! Kemalism will remain forever.

90.       CANLI
5084 posts
 24 Jul 2007 Tue 02:12 am

İm sorry but im kinda lost here,what do you mean exactly by Islamisms ?

İs it following the İslam values having Faith in them therefore being Muslim ?

Or doing the extreme to unacceptable level in the name of İslam which its far from it?

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