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Turkish soldiers killed at border today...
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180.       portokal
2516 posts
 23 Oct 2007 Tue 08:28 pm

Quoting teaschip1:

Quoting portokal:

Quoting teaschip1:

What if it was your immediate family? Someone kiiled your daughter or son? Would you want revenge? I hope I am never put in this place, but I often wonder. If it was me, how would I react. Sometimes I just wonder if prison is enough... I don't believe an eye for an eye, but I also have difficulty turning the other cheek at times..


I cannot state either. I wasn't in the position of a relative being killed. Except my grandfathers:one died out of lung cancer after emprisonement by communist, the other never fully recovered after WW2. I have no children. It is hard to emmit opinions in this. I, and i speak for myself, i think i could not kill as for revenge. As for prison, i personally find lacking of freedom much more imprinting for a life than the few minutes necessary to pass away. And war means not killing the one that hurted you but to kill an another, that shares some common social features with the killer: nationality, appartenance to a group. And possibly the killing intention.



I really enjoyed reading your personal input on this. I bet you have some real interesting stories you could share.



what about a kurd-turk marriage in which the families disagree? Adapted to other nationalities?
BTW i am not always found of the turning cheek.
I would make everything to emprison the bastard!

181.       teaschip
3870 posts
 23 Oct 2007 Tue 09:29 pm

Quoting portokal:

Quoting teaschip1:

Quoting portokal:

Quoting teaschip1:

What if it was your immediate family? Someone kiiled your daughter or son? Would you want revenge? I hope I am never put in this place, but I often wonder. If it was me, how would I react. Sometimes I just wonder if prison is enough... I don't believe an eye for an eye, but I also have difficulty turning the other cheek at times..


I cannot state either. I wasn't in the position of a relative being killed. Except my grandfathers:one died out of lung cancer after emprisonement by communist, the other never fully recovered after WW2. I have no children. It is hard to emmit opinions in this. I, and i speak for myself, i think i could not kill as for revenge. As for prison, i personally find lacking of freedom much more imprinting for a life than the few minutes necessary to pass away. And war means not killing the one that hurted you but to kill an another, that shares some common social features with the killer: nationality, appartenance to a group. And possibly the killing intention.



I really enjoyed reading your personal input on this. I bet you have some real interesting stories you could share.



what about a kurd-turk marriage in which the families disagree? Adapted to other nationalities?
BTW i am not always found of the turning cheek.
I would make everything to emprison the bastard!



I say you have to show respect to your families. However, this doesn't mean they have the right to choose who you fall in love with. If it just happens to be another nationality, your family needs to learn to accept it. I see too many people wanting the approval of their parents in relationships.

Hell, I use to think this, I needed my parents approval. Then I woke up one day and decided to live my life for myself. Yes, it helps if your family is supportive. But at the end of day, it's you that needs to be happy.

And I also wish that bastard was in prison!

182.       Lifemate
44 posts
 24 Oct 2007 Wed 10:26 am

Quoting teaschip1:

What if it was your immediate family? Someone kiiled your daughter or son? Would you want revenge? I hope I am never put in this place, but I often wonder. If it was me, how would I react. Sometimes I just wonder if prison is enough... I don't believe an eye for an eye, but I also have difficulty turning the other cheek at times..



Our soldiers (innocent soldiers) were killed by teorists..What was the reason?Why?I know why..We live for our country not for money or smtgh like that..If some non-human people comes and starts to divide my country,it is enough to fight with them..I cant wait until this time ok?No patient..Anyway I need be silent now..Have a nice day..

183.       portokal
2516 posts
 24 Oct 2007 Wed 11:23 am

Quoting Lifemate:


Our soldiers (innocent soldiers) were killed by teorists..What was the reason?Why?I know why..We live for our country not for money or smtgh like that..If some non-human people comes and starts to divide my country,it is enough to fight with them..I cant wait until this time ok?No patient..Anyway I need be silent now..Have a nice day..



a nice day? while you eagerly wait for revenge, live for the nation only and want to fight with NON-HUMANS?
A nice day? A horrible day!!!!!! The day we give up rationality in favour of dark feeelings.

184.       Delidolu
344 posts
 24 Oct 2007 Wed 11:50 am

http://english.sabah.com.tr/ check this out ppl!

185.       ciko
784 posts
 24 Oct 2007 Wed 11:55 am

Quoting Lifemate:

I am going to be soldier on December and I want revenge..



Hehehe..only a few weeks after you join the army you will be swearing at your country and army when you realise you mean nothing to your commanders and state and you are not more than a statistic to them...Sad but true!

186.       Lifemate
44 posts
 24 Oct 2007 Wed 02:31 pm

Quoting ciko:

Quoting Lifemate:

I am going to be soldier on December and I want revenge..



Hehehe..only a few weeks after you join the army you will be swearing at your country and army when you realise you mean nothing to your commanders and state and you are not more than a statistic to them...Sad but true!



Sometimes I am thinking why will I do my military service when I see like you disrespectfull people..

What is your aim for living in this country?Only eating,having fun and sleeping?I hope you can think your sentences one more time before writing..

I know which conditions waiting me there and I know how it will be difficult for me..but this is my turn to wait my country borders..

Anyway..Try to sleep well while I am waiting my country borders..

187.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 24 Oct 2007 Wed 02:43 pm

From the advantage of viewing this for afar, I can see BOTH of your points of view. Lifemate I CAN understand your desire for revenge and to protect your country. However, you are too quick to judge Ciko, without knowing his experiences. I would imagine that NONE of us can know how we feel about the military until we have been through that experience ourselves.

However, from what I have seen of the world, I have never seen any good come from bloodshed - only MORE bloodshed. You get revenge and then what? THEY get revenge and so it goes on.

188.       ciko
784 posts
 24 Oct 2007 Wed 02:45 pm

Quoting Lifemate:

Quoting ciko:

Quoting Lifemate:

I am going to be soldier on December and I want revenge..



Hehehe..only a few weeks after you join the army you will be swearing at your country and army when you realise you mean nothing to your commanders and state and you are not more than a statistic to them...Sad but true!



Sometimes I am thinking why will I do my military service when I see like you disrespectfull people..

What is your aim for living in this country?Only eating,having fun and sleeping?I hope you can think your sentences one more time before writing..

I know which conditions waiting me there and I know how it will be difficult for me..but this is my turn to wait my country borders..

Anyway..Try to sleep well while I am waiting my country borders..



you speak like you are going to be " Superman" of Turkey lol.. you will probably just peel potatos in kitchen for months lol

189.       bjk
166 posts
 24 Oct 2007 Wed 02:47 pm

Quoting ciko:

Quoting Lifemate:

Quoting ciko:

Quoting Lifemate:

I am going to be soldier on December and I want revenge..



Hehehe..only a few weeks after you join the army you will be swearing at your country and army when you realise you mean nothing to your commanders and state and you are not more than a statistic to them...Sad but true!



Sometimes I am thinking why will I do my military service when I see like you disrespectfull people..

What is your aim for living in this country?Only eating,having fun and sleeping?I hope you can think your sentences one more time before writing..

I know which conditions waiting me there and I know how it will be difficult for me..but this is my turn to wait my country borders..

Anyway..Try to sleep well while I am waiting my country borders..



you speak like you are going to be " Superman" of Turkey lol.. you will probably just peel potatos in kitchen for months lol



that's a bit harsh...

190.       Lifemate
44 posts
 24 Oct 2007 Wed 03:07 pm

Quoting ciko:

Quoting Lifemate:

Quoting ciko:

Quoting Lifemate:

I am going to be soldier on December and I want revenge..



Hehehe..only a few weeks after you join the army you will be swearing at your country and army when you realise you mean nothing to your commanders and state and you are not more than a statistic to them...Sad but true!



Sometimes I am thinking why will I do my military service when I see like you disrespectfull people..

What is your aim for living in this country?Only eating,having fun and sleeping?I hope you can think your sentences one more time before writing..

I know which conditions waiting me there and I know how it will be difficult for me..but this is my turn to wait my country borders..

Anyway..Try to sleep well while I am waiting my country borders..



you speak like you are going to be " Superman" of Turkey lol.. you will probably just peel potatos in kitchen for months lol



You are ba---rd..Anladin sen onu!

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