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Turkish soldiers killed at border today...
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28 Oct 2007 Sun 11:43 am |
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pray for peace 
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28 Oct 2007 Sun 08:12 pm |
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Quoting thehandsom: [
well..kurds are not sheltering in turkey..
it is their own country. Everybody, including our -open and hidden -nationalists, should acknowledge that.
That acknowledgement is our real problem
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Even some of the Turks here can not seem to understand terms like Kurds as an etnic group, Turkish citizens with Kurdish etnic roots, PKK terrorists of basically Kurdish origin.
But this does not prevent them from talking. Because learning and thinking is difficulr, but talking thru one's hat (OR THRU THEIR ARSE, in case of Brits) is easy.
YES, TURKIA HAS SHELTERED AND FED OVER A 100 000 IRAQI KURDS RUNNING FOR LIFE FROM SADDAM'S GAS BOMBS ONLY IN VERY RECENT PAST. HAD TURKIA NOT OPENED HER BORDERS, IN FEAR OF TERRORIST WHO MUST HAVE INFILTRATED WITH THE REST, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A SAD STORY FOR KURDS.
DO YOU KNOW THAT A GROUP FROM AMONGST THOSE KURDS SAVED AND SHELTERED BY TURKIA (A)WERE FLOWN BY USA TO US MILITARY TRAINING CAMPS OUT OF USA, (B) TRAINED IN GUERILLA WARFARE, (C) RETURNED TO PKK RANKS, WITH FULL EQUIPMENT....
USA DID HAVE TURKISH COLLABORATORS IN THIS OPERATION, BUT PEOPLE OF TURKIA NOW HAVE FAIRLY GOOD IDEA OF WHO THE COLLABORATORS WERE..
NO WONDER COWBOY SONGS ARE HEARD ALL AROUND FROM PKK CAMPS NOWADAYS..
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28 Oct 2007 Sun 10:12 pm |
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Quoting AlphaF: DO YOU KNOW THAT A GROUP FROM AMONGST THOSE KURDS SAVED AND SHELTERED BY TURKIA (A)WERE FLOWN BY USA TO US MILITARY TRAINING CAMPS OUT OF USA, (B) TRAINED IN GUERILLA WARFARE, (C) RETURNED TO PKK RANKS, WITH FULL EQUIPMENT.... |
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28 Oct 2007 Sun 10:59 pm |
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http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/rwb.nsf/db900sid/ACOS-64BPKK?
OpenDocument&query=kurds%20guam
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28 Oct 2007 Sun 11:32 pm |
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Quoting thehandsom: Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting AlphaF: Kurds must stop selling every state that feeds and shelters them (they have done this to almost all the states that sheltered them), each time they are prodded by some external power. Or, alternatively, do what they believe they have to do but stop crying for my sympathy.
Dont talk to me about democracy. What do you think the result would be if 70 Million Turkish citizens (including the 15 million ethnically Kurdish Turkish citizens) were put to a very democratic referandum today and asked the question "Shall we deport all Kurds out of Turkia?". |
Yes, I agree - they should be eternally grateful to Turkey for allowing them to be "sheltered" in YOUR country. Its not a basic human right to live in this world, its something that has to be begged for.
With rising nationalism in Turkey, the answer to your referendum would, of course, be YES! Then you would have a nicely ethnically cleansed country..oh but...then we must seek out all people with Greek blood...  |
well..kurds are not sheltering in turkey..
it is their own country. Everybody, including our -open and hidden -nationalists, should acknowledge that.
That acknowledgement is our real problem
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Well.
I misunderstood the above. Apologies. My edgeness is coming from a generic, low level, low IQ Turkish nationals. Because they show a great LOVE to our kurds!!! They some times really think that we are sheltering our own Kurdish citizens so that we can deport them if we want to.
However, considering that the answer to "Shall we deport all Kurds out of Turkia?" question might be YES, my writing is correct.
We have that acknowledgment problem in general.
Especially our nationalists.
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29 Oct 2007 Mon 01:37 am |
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29 Oct 2007 Mon 02:29 am |
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Where is Turkia? Is it a new country?
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29 Oct 2007 Mon 02:37 am |
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Quoting vineyards: Where is Turkia? Is it a new country?
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You've missed erdinc i assume ?
Well,its better to call it Turkia in English 'same pronounciation as in Turkish' than Turkey .
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29 Oct 2007 Mon 11:44 am |
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It is not better to call Turkey as Turkia just because it sounds closer to the way Turks pronounce it. Every language has a natural path of development. No other country, its government or people have a right or power to intervene with this natural evolution of languages.
There is actually the thought that foreigners peek fun at the English name of our country on account that it also means guniea fowl. I find either making such jokes or taking them seriously equally pathetic.
In almost any language there are homonyms. The different meanings of words or their connotations in different contexts are not to be mixed. Witty people can play with words pointing out to the link between seemingly different concepts. Referring to Turkey the country and alluding to the Guinea fowl does not require so much power of imagination; it is a bit banal too.
Words are just containers. They are capable of conveying only the meanings cultures have assigned to them. It is a very long and slow process. You certainly cannot publish a few words in a website and ask people to use them. That would be a prescriptive approach. If we followed your advise and those of others' who come up with such useful replacement words, what would happen to our language?
Let's not forget we call India as Hindistan which literarily means "The land of turkeys" and Egypt as Mısır which means corn. Do you ever think of Indians as a bunch of turkeys hopping around? Of course no. If you made a joke about that you'd probably feel stupid. What about those who take those jokes so seriously so as to change the word in question.
Can Yucel wrote a poem on this here is a couple of lines I remember from it (I could not find this poem online; as far as I remember its name is Cince mi Icince mi?):
Keferenin kavlince dilince
Hintliler hindi yer her yılbaşı
Türkler de hindi
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29 Oct 2007 Mon 12:02 pm |
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Quoting vineyards: There is actually the thought that foreigners peek fun at the English name of our country on account that it also means guniea fowl. I find either making such jokes or taking them seriously equally pathetic. |
+1000 Actually I never heard any jokes about Turkey and turkeys. After all, the turkey bird was named after Turkey the country - not the OTHER way round !
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