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Turkish soldiers killed at border today...
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27 Oct 2007 Sat 10:49 pm |
Everyone is against killing people but everyone has a certain way of protesting. I for my own part don't think I must curse Kurds running in streets with a flag in my hand.
I don't go to football matches either. I don't like cursing the referee when he makes a mistake. I have my own way of seeing things and it is certainly not the same as teenagers' who are supposed to be perpetually angry at something.
Nevertheless, I am really sorry about the bad fates of those young guys who lost their lives for this country. It might have been me 10 years ago or my brother. After all, it is my country and those are our problems.
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28 Oct 2007 Sun 12:41 am |
How many times do some people here have to be told the current frustration of Turks is not directed to Kurds in general - but to PKK?
PKK is a terrorist organisation which includes elements other than Kurds, and not all Kurds are PKK supporters.
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28 Oct 2007 Sun 12:55 am |
Quoting AlphaF: How many times do some people here have to be told the current frustration of Turks is not directed to Kurds in general - but to PKK?
PKK is a terrorist organisation which includes elements other than Kurds, and not all Kurds are PKK supporters. |
well spoken... and for a person who was in the south east of Turkey for 2 years... there is no problems with the Kurdish people there at all...
the problem is that government should convince the people to go there and open factories, creat new working areas, and convince the teachers and doctors go there...
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28 Oct 2007 Sun 01:07 am |
Quoting AlphaF: How many times do some people here have to be told the current frustration of Turks is not directed to Kurds in general - but to PKK?
PKK is a terrorist organisation which includes elements other than Kurds, and not all Kurds are PKK supporters. |
And then dear AlphaF here you are a declartion from the north of Iraq:
- now people here getting 3 or 4 hourse electricty a day over 24 hours
- So called kurdish government officials are all thieves, they are damen enamy of kurdish people and what they think is only how to steal the wealth here in kurdistan or north of Iraq!
- same the other nationalists want to do, steal or have the blood...so for the people there is no difference among nationalists... where is be Arab as Saddam did or Kurds were the Kurdish parties did and do or Turkish that the army will do .. go on all.
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28 Oct 2007 Sun 01:25 am |
Kurds must stop selling every state that feeds and shelters them (they have done this to almost all the states that sheltered them), each time they are prodded by some external power. Or, alternatively, do what they believe they have to do but stop crying for my sympathy.
Dont talk to me about democracy. What do you think the result would be if 70 Million Turkish citizens (including the 15 million ethnically Kurdish Turkish citizens) were put to a very democratic referandum today and asked the question "Shall we deport all Kurds out of Turkia?".
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28 Oct 2007 Sun 03:59 am |
Quoting AlphaF: How many times do some people here have to be told the current frustration of Turks is not directed to Kurds in general - but to PKK?
PKK is a terrorist organisation which includes elements other than Kurds, and not all Kurds are PKK supporters. |
Well it seems you can say it many times Alpha, but then you follow it with generalised racism about Kurdish people...
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28 Oct 2007 Sun 03:02 am |
Quoting AlphaF: Kurds must stop selling every state that feeds and shelters them (they have done this to almost all the states that sheltered them), each time they are prodded by some external power. Or, alternatively, do what they believe they have to do but stop crying for my sympathy.
Dont talk to me about democracy. What do you think the result would be if 70 Million Turkish citizens (including the 15 million ethnically Kurdish Turkish citizens) were put to a very democratic referandum today and asked the question "Shall we deport all Kurds out of Turkia?". |
Yes, I agree - they should be eternally grateful to Turkey for allowing them to be "sheltered" in YOUR country. Its not a basic human right to live in this world, its something that has to be begged for.
With rising nationalism in Turkey, the answer to your referendum would, of course, be YES! Then you would have a nicely ethnically cleansed country..oh but...then we must seek out all people with Greek blood...
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28 Oct 2007 Sun 04:16 am |
Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting AlphaF: Kurds must stop selling every state that feeds and shelters them (they have done this to almost all the states that sheltered them), each time they are prodded by some external power. Or, alternatively, do what they believe they have to do but stop crying for my sympathy.
Dont talk to me about democracy. What do you think the result would be if 70 Million Turkish citizens (including the 15 million ethnically Kurdish Turkish citizens) were put to a very democratic referandum today and asked the question "Shall we deport all Kurds out of Turkia?". |
Yes, I agree - they should be eternally grateful to Turkey for allowing them to be "sheltered" in YOUR country. Its not a basic human right to live in this world, its something that has to be begged for.
With rising nationalism in Turkey, the answer to your referendum would, of course, be YES! Then you would have a nicely ethnically cleansed country..oh but...then we must seek out all people with Greek blood... |
well..kurds are not sheltering in turkey..
it is their own country. Everybody, including our -open and hidden -nationalists, should acknowledge that.
That acknowledgement is our real problem
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28 Oct 2007 Sun 06:41 am |
Quoting AEnigma III: My heart goes out to all the families of those very young men who died today. Its so sad and tragic
I pray that this will not escalate further and cause even more anti-kurdish feeling. 7 of the 13 soliders killed were kurdish. Kurdish does not automatically mean PKK supporter.
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No matter who or what they are, but to heard and know about killing people is not human. I personally wanna express my condolence for those people who passed away specially for the stupid war. God Bless All the family and relatives.
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28 Oct 2007 Sun 11:06 am |
Those Kurds who feel a part of Turkia are not on the mountains, ambushing Turkish Army.
Being citizen of a country is not only a priviledge it also involves responsibilities.
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28 Oct 2007 Sun 11:43 am |
pray for peace
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