Welcome
Login:   Pass:     Register - Forgot Password - Resend Activation

Turkish Class Forums / General/Off-topic

General/Off-topic

Thread locked by a moderator or admin.
Religion....
(216 Messages in 22 pages - View all)
1 2 3 [4] 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 ...  >>
30.       MrX67
2540 posts
 02 Feb 2008 Sat 10:48 pm

Universe full with so unanswered questions still,sure noone of us never deny power of mind or science,but after some line not possible to find answers of many unknowns,so religions or believe in God good way for to be aware of that we r only very lil drops in an endless universeand religions different paths for unknowns with the same self

31.       catwoman
8933 posts
 02 Feb 2008 Sat 10:52 pm

Quoting MrX67:

Universe full with so unanswered questions still,sure noone of us never deny power of mind or science,but after some line not possible to find answers of many unknowns,so religions or believe in God good way for to be aware of that we r only very lil drops in an endless universeand religions different paths for unknowns with the same self


Ok, MrX. I can see your point, although I disagree.

32.       MrX67
2540 posts
 02 Feb 2008 Sat 10:56 pm

anyway thats possible to be good person without believe in God to,so to believe or to don't believe just a personal prefer and one of the most main human right which has to keepen unless don't give harm for to others

33.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 02 Feb 2008 Sat 11:02 pm

Quoting MrX67:

Universe full with so unanswered questions still,sure noone of us never deny power of mind or science,but after some line not possible to find answers of many unknowns,so religions or believe in God good way for to be aware of that we r only very lil drops in an endless universeand religions different paths for unknowns with the same self


But, you cant deny that thousand years ago there were more unanswered questions than 500 years ago, and today we have less unanswered questions than 500 years ago.
Of course there will be always some ununswered questions.
The unanswered questions which make you believe in a religion today, will/might be answered in the future.
And believing into something because it is unknown is not very healthy thing to do.

34.       MrX67
2540 posts
 02 Feb 2008 Sat 11:08 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting MrX67:

Universe full with so unanswered questions still,sure noone of us never deny power of mind or science,but after some line not possible to find answers of many unknowns,so religions or believe in God good way for to be aware of that we r only very lil drops in an endless universeand religions different paths for unknowns with the same self


But, you cant deny that thousand years ago there were more unanswered questions than 500 years ago, and today we have less unanswered questions than 500 years ago.
Of course there will be always some ununswered questions.
The unanswered questions which make you believe in a religion today, will/might be answered in the future.
And believing into something because it is unknown is not very healthy thing to do.

and trusting more then enough to power of mind not a healthy way for keep our hearts peacfull to

35.       catwoman
8933 posts
 02 Feb 2008 Sat 11:20 pm

Quoting MrX67:

anyway thats possible to be good person without believe in God to,so to believe or to don't believe just a personal prefer and one of the most main human right which has to keepen unless don't give harm for to others


+100000000000

36.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 03 Feb 2008 Sun 11:47 am

How to create your own religion!

1. You need a story
The Romans created the story of Romulus and Remus. The christians have Jesus. The muslims have Mohammad. You need a reason for the beginning of the religion.

2. Put roots in other, existing religions or philosophies. Play on what people already believe. Scientology has its roots in psychology. Christianity roots itself in judeaism. Satanism seems to root itself in greek religion and philosophy (as the satan figure has been referred to as promethean on a few accounts)

3. Form some sort of enemy or comparative opposition
Judaism seemed anti-gentile. Satanism mocks he 'pipedreams' of christianity.

4. Promise to make them happy..eventually.
Satanism is the only to promise immediate gratification. Scientology says it will come at some point, Hinduism and native americans think it may come some time in the next few lives, and christianity says it comes after judgement day.

5. Find a means of covertly isolating your people from other religions (if you want)
"though shalt not suffer a witch to live"--christian bible. Exodus, I believe. Scientology says you should not be around those who 'hinder your spiritual growth'
of course, hindus say we are all on the same path, and wiccans are taught to accept everyone, so who knows where to go with this.

6. Create rules for behavior.
Look at any religious text for this.

7. Create symbols of your religion.
Or use someone else's, like Lavayan satanism did.

8. Tell them why they are better then everyone else.
Lavay's satanic bible is like a handjob for your ego. The old testament refers to the hebrews as the chosen people, and scientology anounces certain members 'clear' (though they continue to beat there wives and emotionally abuse others)

9. A charasmatic leader

10. A set of beliefs.

11. A firm group of people to congregate and spread the word. it it not neccessary for this group of people to believe it, but helpful if the ones below them do. the ones who speak most about the religion just believe it.

(source unknown - sorry Alameda, it was sent in an email )

37.       qdemir
812 posts
 03 Feb 2008 Sun 01:29 pm

The above post says Hz Mohammed wrote the Koran himself, or with his companions 1400 years ago. This is not a bright new claim. Quite a large number of people have put forward such a claim since the beginning of Islam. However, none of them managed to write such a book when they were asked to do (God says a similar thing in the Koran to those people; Come and try!). Considering advances in computer technology in the 21st century why don't those who make such a claim write a book similar to the Koran, and prove their claim?

38.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 03 Feb 2008 Sun 01:32 pm

Quoting qdemir:

The above post says Hz Mohammed wrote the Koran himself, or with his companions 1400 years ago.



Perhaps you should read it again, it does NOT say that. It talks only of the story of Mohammad

39.       vineyards
1954 posts
 03 Feb 2008 Sun 04:12 pm

Where English speakers say: "It takes a thief to deal with a thief", we say : "Dinsizin hakkindan imansiz gelir." meaning : "It takes a faithless person to deal with an agnostic one." The only time I found this phrase particularly meaningful was when Turkish National Soccer Team beat a tough opponent with a goal scored by Ilhan Mansiz. At that time one of the newspaper headlines read:
"Dinsizin Hakkindan I. Mansiz gelir."

It seems most faithfull people have a problem with those who don't believe. We experience the usual problems associated with being in minority. We cannot get our message through. Our choices about belief are not properly taught in schools and presented as viable options to school children. It is obvious that we non-believers are subjected to a large scale silencing campaign.



40.       AEnigma III
0 posts
 03 Feb 2008 Sun 04:27 pm

Quoting vineyards:

It seems most faithfull people have a problem with those who don't believe. We experience the usual problems associated with being in minority. We cannot get our message through. Our choices about belief are not properly taught in schools and presented as viable options to school children. It is obvious that we non-believers are subjected to a large scale silencing campaign.



Its not something I experience (except on this website!). I think most people believe in God, but in the culture I live in faith is a very personal thing which is rarely discussed and does not play a obvious part in day to day lives, or interfere with it (with the exception of Jehovah's Witnesses who bang on our doors to persuade everyone to join their "faith" lol).

(216 Messages in 22 pages - View all)
1 2 3 [4] 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 ...  >>
Thread locked by a moderator or admin.




Turkish Dictionary
Turkish Chat
Open mini chat
New in Forums
Intermediate (B1) to upper-intermediate (B...
qdemir: ...
Why yer gördüm but yeri geziyorum
HaydiDeer: Thank you very much, makes perfect sense!
Etmeyi vs etmek
HaydiDeer: Thank you very much!
Görülmez vs görünmiyor
HaydiDeer: Thank you very much, very well explained!
Içeri and içeriye
HaydiDeer: Thank you very much for the detailed ...
Present continous tense
HaydiDeer: Got it, thank you!
Hic vs herhangi, degil vs yok
HaydiDeer: Thank you very much!
Rize Artvin Airport Transfer - Rize Tours
rizetours: Dear Guest; In order to make your Black Sea trip more enjoyable, our c...
What does \"kabul ettiğini\" mean?
HaydiDeer: Thank you very much for the detailed ...
Random Pictures of Turkey
Most commented