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Religion....
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03 Feb 2008 Sun 07:45 pm |
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Quoting qdemir: Quoting thehandsom: Quoting qdemir:
Quoting AEnigma III: You may well believe that they pray to the same God, but they will go to hell for not following Islam eh? |
Could you let me know your source in Islam to substantiate the above statement? That's not true.
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Sorry to butt in, but am i right to think that kaffirs will never go to heaven? |
A kaffir is a person who doesn't accept God's existence. S/he has, of course, no place in God's heaven. |
You might have a point there but wiki describes kaffir as:
Kafir (Arabic: كافر kāfir; plural كفّار kuffār) is an Arabic word meaning "unbeliever". In the Islamic doctrinal sense the term refers to a person who does not recognize Allah or the prophethood of Muhammad (i.e., any non-Muslim) or who hides, denies, or covers the truth. In cultural terms, it is seen as a derogatory term[1] used to describe an unbeliever, non-Muslims, apostate from Islam and even between Muslims of different sects.
and since all non-muslims dont recognize Muhammed, then they wont go to heaven.
Quote: 'Allah hates non-Muslims to the extent that he will torment them for eternity in horrible ways': |
And this means non-muslims will never go to heaven?
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03 Feb 2008 Sun 07:45 pm |
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Choice quotes from the hadeth :-
Bukhari (2:28) - Women comprise the majority of Hell's occupants. (A weak Hadith, Kanz al-`ummal, 22:10, even suggests that 99% of women go to Hell).
Muslim (40:6831) - Non-Muslims in Hell will be given thick skin so as to prolong their agony (before they are given fresh skin for a new round of torture - Sura 4:56).
Bukhari (59:727) - Allah's Apostle [said]... "Allah's curse be on the Jews and the Christians" This was spoken on Muhammad's death bed, and was one of the last things that he ever said.
Ishaq 240 - "The Jews are a nation of liars.... The Jews are a treacherous, lying, and evil people"
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03 Feb 2008 Sun 07:47 pm |
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Quoting thehandsom: and since all non-muslims dont recognize Muhammed, then they wont go to heaven.
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Hope they have raki in hell 
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03 Feb 2008 Sun 07:51 pm |
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Quoting thehandsom: and since all non-muslims dont recognize Muhammed, then they wont go to heaven.
Quote: 'Allah hates non-Muslims to the extent that he will torment them for eternity in horrible ways': |
And this means non-muslims will never go to heaven?
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Apparently he hates hyprocrites the most! 
So all raki drinking muslims will join us "down there" 
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03 Feb 2008 Sun 07:54 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting thehandsom: and since all non-muslims dont recognize Muhammed, then they wont go to heaven.
Quote: 'Allah hates non-Muslims to the extent that he will torment them for eternity in horrible ways': |
And this means non-muslims will never go to heaven?
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Apparently he hates hyprocrites the most!
So all raki drinking muslims will join us "down there" |
raki and 99% of women..It sounds like heaven 
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03 Feb 2008 Sun 07:57 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Hope they have raki in hell |
Yes, they do. I've seen a couple times.
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03 Feb 2008 Sun 07:58 pm |
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i suggest to take freezers with yourselves
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03 Feb 2008 Sun 07:59 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: i suggest to take freezers with yourselves |
Good thinking! I will need ice with my drinks in case it gets a little warm!
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03 Feb 2008 Sun 08:08 pm |
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I actually hate raki. I prefer vodka with red bull... I might have to choose a different section of hell.. :-S
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03 Feb 2008 Sun 08:26 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting qdemir: Just quote verses, if there are any, to substantiate the claim you have put forward. |
I did 
You want MORE? |
The original verses of Sura 9:30 is as below:
'9.30': And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!
To understand the above verse we need to read the verse immediately following the verse '9:30', which clarifies it.
The verse '9:30' is about such Christians and Jews defined in the following verse '9:31'.
It doesn't include all Christians or Jews as not all Christians or Jews believe in the same way as defined in the following verse. We are talking about believers of each religion praying the same God, otherwise we can't talk about the same God.
'9.31': They have taken their doctors of law and their monks for lords besides Allah, and (also) the Messiah son of Marium and they were enjoined that they should serve one God only, there is no god but He; far from His glory be what they set up (with Him).
Some day, a non-believer claims that people are ordered to stay away from praying God (five times a day), and he substantiates his claim with a verse in the Koran.
What he says is actually true, and is stated in the Koran just as he said. However, that verse also says something in the following, which is: (women) (stay away from praying ) when you are on your menstruation periods
In Islam women don't pray during the periods of their menstruation.
There is no need to talk about the other verses that AEnigma stated.
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