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Religion....
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03 Feb 2008 Sun 06:54 pm |
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Quoting qdemir: My religion? We believe there is only one God, and believers of each religion pray for the same God. |
You may well believe that they pray to the same God, but they will go to hell for not following Islam eh? 
What about religions where they pray to more than one god? You don't believe such religions exist, or you just do not recognise them? 
Quoting qdemir: Has anyone judge you, or blame you for being an agnostic. |
Frequently! 
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03 Feb 2008 Sun 07:02 pm |
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Quoting qdemir: Haven't you ever posted in an attempt to reason your agnostic belief? |
Have you forgotten to quate and answer the above question?
Quoting AEnigma III: You may well believe that they pray to the same God, but they will go to hell for not following Islam eh? |
Could you let me know your source in Islam to substantiate the above statement? That's not true.
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03 Feb 2008 Sun 07:07 pm |
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Quoting qdemir: Has anyone judge you, or blame you for being an agnostic. |
Frequently!
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Also, could you quote a few of such posts judging or blaming you for that. You may not quote the posters's user names.
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03 Feb 2008 Sun 07:12 pm |
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Quoting qdemir:
Quoting AEnigma III: You may well believe that they pray to the same God, but they will go to hell for not following Islam eh? |
Could you let me know your source in Islam to substantiate the above statement? That's not true.
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Sorry to butt in, but am i right to think that kaffirs will never go to heaven?
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03 Feb 2008 Sun 07:13 pm |
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There is no place in the Quran where Muhammad commands Muslims to love people of other religions. By contrast there are at least three dozen verses that tell Muslims to fight against non-Muslims and about 500 that speak of their place in hell. They are from each period in Muhammad's life, scattered across 87 of the Quran's 114 chapters.
To put this in perspective, nearly one out of twelve verses in the Quran says that Allah hates non-Muslims to the extent that he will torment them for eternity in horrible ways. The Suras that make reference to this comprise about 95% of the Quran's total volume. If Allah creates infidels merely to fuel the fires of Hell, then there is little reason for Muslims to believe that such lives are of any worth in this world either.
Do you want me to quote them?
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03 Feb 2008 Sun 07:16 pm |
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Quoting thehandsom: Quoting qdemir:
Quoting AEnigma III: You may well believe that they pray to the same God, but they will go to hell for not following Islam eh? |
Could you let me know your source in Islam to substantiate the above statement? That's not true.
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Sorry to butt in, but am i right to think that kaffirs will never go to heaven? |
A kaffir is a person who doesn't accept God's existence. S/he has, of course, no place in God's heaven.
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03 Feb 2008 Sun 07:26 pm |
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Quoting qdemir:
Could you let me know your source in Islam to substantiate the above statement? |
The Quran 
Sura (9:30 ) - And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah... Allah (Himself) fighteth against them. How perverse are they!
Sura (4:52) - Those (Christians) are they whom Allah hath cursed...
Sura (4:47) - O you (Jews) who have been given the Book! believe that which We have revealed, verifying what you have, before We alter faces then turn them on their backs, or curse them as We cursed the violaters of the Sabbath, and the command of Allah shall be executed.
There are many more
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03 Feb 2008 Sun 07:34 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: There is no place in the Quran where Muhammad commands Muslims to love people of other religions. By contrast there are at least three dozen verses that tell Muslims to fight against non-Muslims and about 500 that speak of their place in hell. They are from each period in Muhammad's life, scattered across 87 of the Quran's 114 chapters.
To put this in perspective, nearly one out of twelve verses in the Quran says that Allah hates non-Muslims to the extent that he will torment them for eternity in horrible ways. The Suras that make reference to this comprise about 95% of the Quran's total volume. If Allah creates infidels merely to fuel the fires of Hell, then there is little reason for Muslims to believe that such lives are of any worth in this world either.
Do you want me to quote them? |
You are in the wrong in the first place. Hz Mohammed doesn't command in Koran, but God. Hz Mohammed is a messenger.
I don't know where you have got the above post, but it is quite obvious that it has been written by what kind of people. I have asked for a source in Islam.
Just quote verses, if there are any, to substantiate the claim you have put forward.
Let me correct just a thing which is directly related to your claim:
'Allah hates non-Muslims to the extent that he will torment them for eternity in horrible ways':
not non-Muslims, but those who reject God's existence.
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03 Feb 2008 Sun 07:36 pm |
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Quoting qdemir: Just quote verses, if there are any, to substantiate the claim you have put forward. |
I did
You want MORE? 
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03 Feb 2008 Sun 07:39 pm |
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Quoting qdemir: You are in the wrong in the first place. Hz Mohammed doesn't command in Koran, but God. Hz Mohammed is a messenger. |
That is only YOUR belief Qdemir
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03 Feb 2008 Sun 07:45 pm |
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Quoting qdemir: Quoting thehandsom: Quoting qdemir:
Quoting AEnigma III: You may well believe that they pray to the same God, but they will go to hell for not following Islam eh? |
Could you let me know your source in Islam to substantiate the above statement? That's not true.
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Sorry to butt in, but am i right to think that kaffirs will never go to heaven? |
A kaffir is a person who doesn't accept God's existence. S/he has, of course, no place in God's heaven. |
You might have a point there but wiki describes kaffir as:
Kafir (Arabic: كافر kāfir; plural كفّار kuffār) is an Arabic word meaning "unbeliever". In the Islamic doctrinal sense the term refers to a person who does not recognize Allah or the prophethood of Muhammad (i.e., any non-Muslim) or who hides, denies, or covers the truth. In cultural terms, it is seen as a derogatory term[1] used to describe an unbeliever, non-Muslims, apostate from Islam and even between Muslims of different sects.
and since all non-muslims dont recognize Muhammed, then they wont go to heaven.
Quote: 'Allah hates non-Muslims to the extent that he will torment them for eternity in horrible ways': |
And this means non-muslims will never go to heaven?
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