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140.       elham
579 posts
 20 Mar 2008 Thu 09:09 am

Quote:

Quoting CANLI:



Elham,
A bit of advice
Discussing İslam here is waste of time,wont achieve anything ''Understanding,tolerant..ect'',and also it was not intended to achieve anything right from the begining..!
So dont watse your time,you will end up being sad about it.

İslam was there ,and will be there same as it is,whether anyone like it or not
Remember ?! ALLAH protecting it
So,İslam is not good ?!
Ok,we are Muslims and we like it this way!
End of the story .
''Lakum Dinakum wa Liya Dini''
''You have your believes and i have mine''

Of course its up to you,but its just my advice,i've wasted my time before,and i know about it!


Dear Canli
I said that according to this verse :
"اذا خاطبهم الجاهلون قالوا سلاما"
thanks to your advice

141.       janissary
0 posts
 20 Mar 2008 Thu 09:18 am

only turkish is forbidden on turkish class forums

142.       Lapinkulta
0 posts
 20 Mar 2008 Thu 10:03 am

Quoting KeithL:

Please, no explanations at all or long answers,

Only a simple yes or no.

We don't need this thread to start a debate. I only want to see the groups perception.

Has Turkish Language Class become too anti islam and anti turkish?



YESSSSS...NOT ONLY anti islam and anti turks..it is forbidden here to tell any bad things rehated to EU, USA, Isreal or kurdish...we have to discuss Turkey, Turkish, islam...I have been in TC about 3 years,its aims have changed so much recently...

143.       xkirstyx
363 posts
 20 Mar 2008 Thu 10:06 am

Quoting janissary:

only turkish is forbidden on turkish class forums



lol lol

144.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 20 Mar 2008 Thu 10:40 am

Lapinkuta, if you go through the forum archive, you'll see there are many threads criticising USA.

145.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 20 Mar 2008 Thu 10:42 am

Quoting xkirstyx:

Quoting janissary:

only turkish is forbidden on turkish class forums



lol lol


I think, what happened is, 8 out 10 turkish comments have been either swearing, insulting or insinuating something.
That must be the reason.

146.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 20 Mar 2008 Thu 10:44 am

Quoting Lapinkulta:


YESSSSS...NOT ONLY anti islam and anti turks..it is forbidden here to tell any bad things rehated to EU, USA, Isreal or kurdish...we have to discuss Turkey, Turkish, islam...I have been in TC about 3 years,its aims have changed so much recently...


Check previous posts about usa/bush/iraq/israel-palestine.
I dont think you have been following the forum very well..

147.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 20 Mar 2008 Thu 10:52 am

That's why this forum could do with a search engine...not everybody likes checking all posts, especially that usually the content of a thread has nothing to do with its title ...

148.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 20 Mar 2008 Thu 10:57 am

Quoting Daydreamer:

That's why this forum could do with a search engine...not everybody likes checking all posts, especially that usually the content of a thread has nothing to do with its title ...


I agree with you Daydreamer..
I think this site desperately needs and internal text search engine.

149.       Cacık
296 posts
 20 Mar 2008 Thu 11:07 am

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting Lapinkulta:


YESSSSS...NOT ONLY anti islam and anti turks..it is forbidden here to tell any bad things rehated to EU, USA, Isreal or kurdish...we have to discuss Turkey, Turkish, islam...I have been in TC about 3 years,its aims have changed so much recently...


Check previous posts about usa/bush/iraq/israel-palestine.
I dont think you have been following the forum very well..



I have chosen so far not to join this conversation. I have been here for about 6 months and having read through quite a few of the religion/politic discussions. I think there has been equal battling on both sides, I have seen unecessary and unconstructive criticism about islam and equally comments about Turkey/Turks. I have also seen an equal amount of slandering and bad language against the west, the americans, the missionaries etc......

I think both sides are too blame and it has come to the point where you can prove your maturity by stopping this thread, accepting that we have all said some unecessary things and for the most part people have apologised too.

Let us start a fresh, stop this thread, wipe the slate clean, shake hands and start again.

What do you think ? I am all for it and from what I gather many peopl are.

150.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 20 Mar 2008 Thu 11:17 am

Quoting CANLI:



http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_11_28741
They dont vote,they just leave !



If you have a look at the nicks of the people who left, you'll see that they are not all those who claim this site is anti-Turkish or anti-Islam.

Quoting CANLI:


A bit of advice
Discussing İslam here is waste of time,wont achieve anything ''Understanding,tolerant..ect'',and also it was not intended to achieve anything right from the begining..!
So dont watse your time,you will end up being sad about it.



I can't agree with you here, as a matter of fact the discussion we had a while ago about women's rights in Islam really shed a lot of light on this problem for me. Before you told me how Islam feels about this issue, I was dead sure inequality is written there and people just follow it. You pointed out it was different and that women have a lot of rights which, unfortunately, are not always obeyed.

That's why I am thankful for this discussion as it was informative and very convincing. First of all, you're a Muslim (an educated one, I assume) then, you are a woman so I'm sure this issues are important to you. Finally, you live in a Muslim country so you know exactly what it is like to be a Muslim woman in a Muslim world and you know all kinds of social strata - those more liberal and those more restrictive.


You changed my opinion about this issue so I don't think it was a waste of your time.

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