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eng to turkish please
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06 Aug 2006 Sun 11:12 pm |
could someone please translate this into turkish please. thanks in advance hello darling, i keep trying to send a picture to your phone but it wont send. does your phone take picture messages and if so is it set up correctly. love and kisses ....
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06 Aug 2006 Sun 11:25 pm |
merhaba sevgilim,cep telefonuna resim gondermeye calisip duruyorum fakat olmuyor.cep telefonun resimli mesajlar alir mi ve oyleyse ona gore ayarlanmis mi?sevgiler ve opucukler.
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07 Aug 2006 Mon 03:37 pm |
thanks so much,he never would have understood that in english
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08 Aug 2006 Tue 12:54 am |
hey me and my friend were trying to send picture messages to turkey we rang o2 (dont know if your the same network) but they said that you cant send picture messages to turkey just ring your own network and ask cause we couldnt send them from our's
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08 Aug 2006 Tue 04:45 pm |
Quoting irishchick: hey me and my friend were trying to send picture messages |
For the benefit of those that are trying to learn English as a second language, the above is an appalling sentence structure that would only be used by a very uneducated person.
In English, the word order of personal pronouns is always from lowest to highest order of proximity. So first person comes last - only presumputous "chavs" or uneducated people place personal pronouns in a different order.
"me and my friend" should be "my friend and I"
Changing the order implies that the 'friend' isn't worthy of one's acquaintance.
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08 Aug 2006 Tue 05:09 pm |
Quoting bod: Quoting irishchick: hey me and my friend were trying to send picture messages |
For the benefit of those that are trying to learn English as a second language, the above is an appalling sentence structure that would only be used by a very uneducated person.
In English, the word order of personal pronouns is always from lowest to highest order of proximity. So first person comes last - only presumputous "chavs" or uneducated people place personal pronouns in a different order.
"me and my friend" should be "my friend and I"
Changing the order implies that the 'friend' isn't worthy of one's acquaintance. |
come on bod lighten up, most people i know always say 'me and...', and we are not uneducated, (or a "chav" for that matter) its just how people talk. i hardly ever hear anyone say '... and i', it sounds too formal and posh in my opinion.
Quoting bod: "me and my friend" should be "my friend and I"
Changing the order implies that the 'friend' isn't worthy of one's acquaintance. |
and this isn't everyones opinion, well not mine anyone, even if i was talking about the Queen i would still say 'me and the Queen' because thats common speak in my opinion.
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08 Aug 2006 Tue 05:27 pm |
Quoting bod: Quoting irishchick: hey me and my friend were trying to send picture messages |
For the benefit of those that are trying to learn English as a second language, the above is an appalling sentence structure that would only be used by a very uneducated person.
In English, the word order of personal pronouns is always from lowest to highest order of proximity. So first person comes last - only presumputous "chavs" or uneducated people place personal pronouns in a different order.
"me and my friend" should be "my friend and I"
Changing the order implies that the 'friend' isn't worthy of one's acquaintance. |
Wouldn't go as far as to say appalling or uneducated now bod
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08 Aug 2006 Tue 05:28 pm |
Quoting oceanmavi: Quoting bod: Quoting irishchick: hey me and my friend were trying to send picture messages |
For the benefit of those that are trying to learn English as a second language, the above is an appalling sentence structure that would only be used by a very uneducated person.
In English, the word order of personal pronouns is always from lowest to highest order of proximity. So first person comes last - only presumputous "chavs" or uneducated people place personal pronouns in a different order.
"me and my friend" should be "my friend and I"
Changing the order implies that the 'friend' isn't worthy of one's acquaintance. |
come on bod lighten up, most people i know always say 'me and...', and we are not uneducated, (or a "chav" for that matter) its just how people talk. i hardly ever hear anyone say '... and i', it sounds too formal and posh in my opinion.
Quoting bod: "me and my friend" should be "my friend and I"
Changing the order implies that the 'friend' isn't worthy of one's acquaintance. |
and this isn't everyones opinion, well not mine anyone, even if i was talking about the Queen i would still say 'me and the Queen' because thats common speak in my opinion. |
Well said me friend
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08 Aug 2006 Tue 05:45 pm |
Well it seems you two have proved Bod's point . It is a sad fact that the beauty of the English language is disappearing fast thanks to text messages, email and poor education but it is inconsiderate and ignorant to use slang on this website - except maybe in Off-Topic. It is sad that people learning English as a second language have a better use of grammar and vocabulary than native English. Dumb Britain lol!
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08 Aug 2006 Tue 05:58 pm |
what about the people who speak slang in turkish on here? so many times i have seen people, even english people (i can think of one in particular who always uses turkish slang making it extremely hard for me, a beginner, to understand what is being wrote) and no one says a word about their bad grammer or the fact that maybe people are learning turkish off them too. I'm not going to name names but i remember one moderater mentioning it to her yet she still continued...
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08 Aug 2006 Tue 06:00 pm |
Quoting 007: it is inconsiderate and ignorant to use slang on this website - |
surely slang is something like 'ooh yea so i like totally luv britney spears ya kno"....saying 'me friend and me' might be bad grammer but i wouldn't call it slang.
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08 Aug 2006 Tue 06:05 pm |
Quoting oceanmavi: to understand what is being wrote) |
Do you mean, "to understand what is being written"?
I can see now that you are right, it is not slang but merely poor grammar and understanding of your own language! Perhaps some of you should learn English first before attempting to learn another language.
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08 Aug 2006 Tue 06:15 pm |
Quoting 007: Well it seems you two have proved Bod's point . It is a sad fact that the beauty of the English language is disappearing fast thanks to text messages, email and poor education but it is inconsiderate and ignorant to use slang on this website - except maybe in Off-Topic. It is sad that people learning English as a second language have a better use of grammar and vocabulary than native English. Dumb Britain lol! |
Hang on there one minute I would just like to point out to you that I was not poorly educated far from it I actually hold a Teachers Diploma in ICT and work full time for the Government, so for you or Bod to say that I am under educated is totally bang out of order, if I choose to say “me and my friend†instead of saying “my friend and Iâ€, that’s my business not yours or bods for that matter. You don't know me so don't feel the need to comment on my education and as for saying "me and my friend" is slang I totally disagree!!
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08 Aug 2006 Tue 06:18 pm |
Quoting irishchick: Hang on there one minute I would just like to point out to you that I was not poorly educated far from it I actually hold a Teachers Diploma in ICT and work full time for the Government, so for you or Bod to say that I am under educated is totally bang out of order, if I choose to say “me and my friend†instead of saying “my friend and Iâ€, that’s my business not yours or bods for that matter. You don't know me so don't feel the need to comment on my education and as for saying "me and my friend" is slang I totally disagree!! |
Teachers Diploma? So you will have, of course, noticed your mistake in an earlier post when you used "your" for "you are, or you're"? Yet Mltm, who I believe is Turkish, used the correct "you're" in her post. Ay ay ay.
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08 Aug 2006 Tue 06:22 pm |
Quoting 007:
So you will have, of course, noticed your mistake in an earlier post when you used "your" for "you are, or you're"? QUOTE]
go ahead 007, nitpick through everyones posts, im sure we are not the only ones who make mistakes. are you going to correct every single person who makes a little mistake? |
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08 Aug 2006 Tue 06:27 pm |
and your point is??? the way you speak and the way you send txt message's and the way you write emails are totally differnt from the way you speak for me personally in any way i am proud of who i am the way i speak the way talk my life is just great the fact that you are trying to put me down in front of people on the internet for using the english language incorrectly is fine because at the end of the day i have a great life, a great job, lovely car, lovely family the list goes on but i think you get the picture
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08 Aug 2006 Tue 06:33 pm |
Quoting irishchick: and your point is??? the way you speak and the way you send txt message's and the way you write emails are totally differnt from the way you speak for me personally in any way i am proud of who i am the way i speak the way talk my life is just great the fact that you are trying to put me down in front of people on the internet for using the english language incorrectly is fine because at the end of the day i have a great life, a great job, lovely car, lovely family the list goes on but i think you get the picture |
It seems I touched a nerve It is probably not prudent to mention that your last post was the longest sentence, without punctuation, I have ever seen!
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08 Aug 2006 Tue 06:37 pm |
Quoting 007: Quoting irishchick: and your point is??? the way you speak and the way you send txt message's and the way you write emails are totally differnt from the way you speak for me personally in any way i am proud of who i am the way i speak the way talk my life is just great the fact that you are trying to put me down in front of people on the internet for using the english language incorrectly is fine because at the end of the day i have a great life, a great job, lovely car, lovely family the list goes on but i think you get the picture |
It seems I touched a nerve |
No not at all love, i was just trying to understand why you felt the need to pick up and point out to people when they make a little mistake, well if you get something out of that fair play to you what ever your into....
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08 Aug 2006 Tue 06:49 pm |
Quoting 007: Quoting irishchick: and your point is??? the way you speak and the way you send txt message's and the way you write emails are totally differnt from the way you speak for me personally in any way i am proud of who i am the way i speak the way talk my life is just great the fact that you are trying to put me down in front of people on the internet for using the english language incorrectly is fine because at the end of the day i have a great life, a great job, lovely car, lovely family the list goes on but i think you get the picture |
It seems I touched a nerve It is probably not prudent to mention that your last post was the longest sentence, without punctuation, I have ever seen! |
arent you just great i mean who else would be able to pick up on these little things your amazing you really are...
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08 Aug 2006 Tue 07:01 pm |
Quoting 007: Quoting irishchick: and your point is??? the way you speak and the way you send txt message's and the way you write emails are totally differnt from the way you speak for me personally in any way i am proud of who i am the way i speak the way talk my life is just great the fact that you are trying to put me down in front of people on the internet for using the english language incorrectly is fine because at the end of the day i have a great life, a great job, lovely car, lovely family the list goes on but i think you get the picture |
It seems I touched a nerve It is probably not prudent to mention that your last post was the longest sentence, without punctuation, I have ever seen! |
If you're going to be that picky about others, perhaps I should mention that you missed out a fullstop, right after the word 'nerve'?
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08 Aug 2006 Tue 07:02 pm |
Quoting marmykat: Quoting 007: Quoting irishchick: and your point is??? the way you speak and the way you send txt message's and the way you write emails are totally differnt from the way you speak for me personally in any way i am proud of who i am the way i speak the way talk my life is just great the fact that you are trying to put me down in front of people on the internet for using the english language incorrectly is fine because at the end of the day i have a great life, a great job, lovely car, lovely family the list goes on but i think you get the picture |
It seems I touched a nerve It is probably not prudent to mention that your last post was the longest sentence, without punctuation, I have ever seen! |
If you're going to be that picky about others, perhaps I should mention that you missed out a fullstop, right after the word 'nerve'? |
Thank you, but my 'wink' replaced my full stop
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08 Aug 2006 Tue 07:04 pm |
Quoting 007: Quoting marmykat: Quoting 007: Quoting irishchick: and your point is??? the way you speak and the way you send txt message's and the way you write emails are totally differnt from the way you speak for me personally in any way i am proud of who i am the way i speak the way talk my life is just great the fact that you are trying to put me down in front of people on the internet for using the english language incorrectly is fine because at the end of the day i have a great life, a great job, lovely car, lovely family the list goes on but i think you get the picture |
It seems I touched a nerve It is probably not prudent to mention that your last post was the longest sentence, without punctuation, I have ever seen! |
If you're going to be that picky about others, perhaps I should mention that you missed out a fullstop, right after the word 'nerve'? |
Thank you, but my 'wink' replaced my full stop |
Ah, and yet it didn't on the last sentence?
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08 Aug 2006 Tue 07:09 pm |
Quoting marmykat: Ah, and yet it didn't on the last sentence? |
That is because I wanted to use an exclamation mark. I am bored now - go and play all of you. Or perhaps lern sum Inglish!
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08 Aug 2006 Tue 07:11 pm |
Quoting 007: Quoting marmykat: Ah, and yet it didn't on the last sentence? |
That is because I wanted to use an exclamation mark. I am bored now - go and play all of you. Or perhaps...lern sum Inglish! |
I would say that i'm doing rather well considering that English is not my first language. Unless you beg to differ.
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08 Aug 2006 Tue 07:14 pm |
Quoting marmykat: Quoting 007: Quoting marmykat: Ah, and yet it didn't on the last sentence? |
That is because I wanted to use an exclamation mark. I am bored now - go and play all of you. Or perhaps...lern sum Inglish! |
I would say that i'm doing rather well considering that English is not my first language. Unless you beg to differ. |
I have no argument with you or your grammar, which, it has to be said, is far superior to the English posts. Yes, you are doing very well. (The full stop was for you ).
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08 Aug 2006 Tue 07:15 pm |
Thanks, sorry to seem, well, argumentative. Just a bad day i guess.
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08 Aug 2006 Tue 07:17 pm |
Quoting marmykat: Thanks, sorry to seem, well, argumentative. Just a bad day i guess. |
Sorry too. I was having a bad day, but I feel so much better after my outburst!
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08 Aug 2006 Tue 07:22 pm |
Me too, you were just unlucky enough to be on the other end of it!
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08 Aug 2006 Tue 09:03 pm |
Quoting 007: Well it seems you two have proved Bod's point . It is a sad fact that the beauty of the English language is disappearing fast thanks to text messages, email and poor education but it is inconsiderate and ignorant to use slang on this website - except maybe in Off-Topic. It is sad that people learning English as a second language have a better use of grammar and vocabulary than native English. Dumb Britain lol! |
Absolutely.......
I am dismayed that I am unable to find a single newspaper in England that challenges me linguistically. To find such material I need to go outside of my native country.
People that choose to dilute the flamboyance of our cultural and literary heritage with inadequate grammar simply perpetuate the concept that lazy language is trendy. But ultinmately in undermines our identity as a populus and as a descrete society.
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08 Aug 2006 Tue 09:08 pm |
Quoting bod: Quoting 007: Well it seems you two have proved Bod's point . It is a sad fact that the beauty of the English language is disappearing fast thanks to text messages, email and poor education but it is inconsiderate and ignorant to use slang on this website - except maybe in Off-Topic. It is sad that people learning English as a second language have a better use of grammar and vocabulary than native English. Dumb Britain lol! |
Absolutely.......
I am dismayed that I am unable to find a single newspaper in England that challenges me linguistically. To find such material I need to go outside of my native country.
People that choose to dilute the flamboyance of our cultural and literary heritage with inadequate grammar simply perpetuate the concept that lazy language is trendy. But ultinmately in undermines our identity as a populus and as a descrete society. |
Who talks like this honestly
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08 Aug 2006 Tue 09:13 pm |
Quoting irishchick: Who talks like this honestly |
I always attempt to talk honestly!
One should perpetuate honesty as it is intrinsically necessary for social stability.
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08 Aug 2006 Tue 09:20 pm |
Yeah so i see!! If you dont like your country why dont you just move if your that unhappy instead of slagging it of at every given opportunity
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08 Aug 2006 Tue 09:25 pm |
Actually I didn't read all of the discussion, as I'm a lazy ass bitch English is not my native language and though my mum was born in England, I was only raised in Dutch. The reason my English became quite well is because I had lots of internet contacts, especially Kadir! Though he never intended too and though his English isn't perfect, he had a good vocabulary and the practise made my English improve.
I read one point being made about 'your' instead of 'you're' and 'you are'. Actually, that's because when you think, it goes faster than you can type. But when you speak, the difference in time between what you say and what you think, is smaller. When you type, there will be more chance that you write down what you HEAR in your head so 'we're' and 'were' and 'you're' and 'your'and they're and their will be easily confused in written language. And also.. the way we speak to each other on the forums doesn't necessarily have to be so formal. When I compare my DUtch usage to that of my friends, I talk proper and educated, but this is mainly because my dad is a teacher Dutch, so all my life I heard the correct ways and got corrected whenever I was wrong.
Anyway, I think the whole 'my friend and I' point was kinda exegarated (i have no idea how to spell this word, PLEASE someone tell me), especially to say it's uneducated. On the other hand, i know that in Dutch I would never say 'me and my friend'.. Because there is one point.. it definitely hás to do with laziness about the language you use, and Bod is right..the 'moral' for language is going down.
Another point I'd like to make.. I agree that all the Turkish slang is confusing for learners.. but let's be honest.. in the posts where we can réally learn something, slang is barely ever used. I can figure which member you refer to, and that member uses slang mostly in personal discussions. I for myself like to learn slang in Turkish too. Not because I'm really the type to use it, I prefer full, proper spoken language.. but it remains a dimension of Turkish and I just wanna learn.
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08 Aug 2006 Tue 09:27 pm |
I was following this forum at work today but didn't have the chance to join in. I'd just like to say that I work in a job where it is important to use grammar and spelling correctly and I hope I always do so at work. HOWEVER, quite often when emailing I notice I have made mistakes - I don't know why this is but it happens. So if someone appears not to be able to spell properly (such as your two errors in your last post - you spelt 'ultimately' and 'discreet' wrongly), give them a break - it may be just the speed they are typing. Also, although I agree that it is not good for non-english speakers to pick up on bad grammar, people are trying to familiarise themselves with another language (be it English or Turkish). Once they have come to grips with communicating then correct use of grammar can follow. If a small child says 'me want biscuit' it is not correct English but everyone understands what they mean. The child wouldn't continue speaking like that for the rest of his/her life.
P.S. I do hope you can't find any mistakes in this post - but feel free to let me know if you do!!
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08 Aug 2006 Tue 09:31 pm |
Quoting Deli_kizin: Actually I didn't read all of the discussion, as I'm a lazy ass bitch English is not my native language and though my mum was born in England, I was only raised in Dutch. The reason my English became quite well is because I had lots of internet contacts, especially Kadir! Though he never intended too and though his English isn't perfect, he had a good vocabulary and the practise made my English improve.
I read one point being made about 'your' instead of 'you're' and 'you are'. Actually, that's because when you think, it goes faster than you can type. But when you speak, the difference in time between what you say and what you think, is smaller. When you type, there will be more chance that you write down what you HEAR in your head so 'we're' and 'were' and 'you're' and 'your'and they're and their will be easily confused in written language. And also.. the way we speak to each other on the forums doesn't necessarily have to be so formal. When I compare my DUtch usage to that of my friends, I talk proper and educated, but this is mainly because my dad is a teacher Dutch, so all my life I heard the correct ways and got corrected whenever I was wrong.
Anyway, I think the whole 'my friend and I' point was kinda exegarated (i have no idea how to spell this word, PLEASE someone tell me), especially to say it's uneducated. On the other hand, i know that in Dutch I would never say 'me and my friend'.. Because there is one point.. it definitely hás to do with laziness about the language you use, and Bod is right..the 'moral' for language is going down.
Another point I'd like to make.. I agree that all the Turkish slang is confusing for learners.. but let's be honest.. in the posts where we can réally learn something, slang is barely ever used. I can figure which member you refer to, and that member uses slang mostly in personal discussions. I for myself like to learn slang in Turkish too. Not because I'm really the type to use it, I prefer full, proper spoken language.. but it remains a dimension of Turkish and I just wanna learn. |
very well said.....
(Exaggerated is how you spell it)
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08 Aug 2006 Tue 09:32 pm |
As a teacher in England, with full qualified teacher status, I would always teach my pupils to use 'my friend and I'. I would also correct them if I heard them say 'my friend and me'.
I agree with Bod that we should be using correct English grammar on this forum.
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10 Aug 2006 Thu 01:48 am |
As a new user here, I have found so many people who are helpful and kind but stumbling upon this post made me wonder! This is pretty brutal!
Bod, I have to say you should be careful in chastising others and calling them uneducated for the use of "me and my friend" when your own profile says that your reason for learning Turkish is: "Myself and my girlfriend were on holiday in Turunç and loved the country and the people so much we are going back August 2006 and are determined to learn some of the language."
I understand the point of using proper English in the forums however, there are times when people make mistakes and it doesn't seem they should be called on the carpet for it in front of everyone.
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10 Aug 2006 Thu 02:48 am |
Quoting girleegirl: As a new user here, I have found so many people who are helpful and kind but stumbling upon this post made me wonder! This is pretty brutal!
Bod, I have to say you should be careful in chastising others and calling them uneducated for the use of "me and my friend" when your own profile says that your reason for learning Turkish is: "Myself and my girlfriend were on holiday in Turunç and loved the country and the people so much we are going back August 2006 and are determined to learn some of the language."
I understand the point of using proper English in the forums however, there are times when people make mistakes and it doesn't seem they should be called on the carpet for it in front of everyone.
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Welcome Girleegirl to Turkish Class. You have learned very quickly here. Most people are very friendly, sorry you had a bad experience.
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10 Aug 2006 Thu 02:59 am |
İ have an opinion here
İ would agree with bod,if she was posting in a language forum,or something like that
But she was posting in the translation forum,so it is only her business how she speak,it is entitled to her
İf is it formal,slang,or whatever
İt is like private letter or email,we cann't object on whatever she want or have to say,only if we don't like we don't help translating,or we can suggest a better sentence and translate both,she has the right to pick which
But we cann't really discuss people personal life,or judge them in here
And sms,email,or whatever,it is personal so is the way she is puting it through
That is how i see it
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06 Sep 2006 Wed 04:16 pm |
Quoting irishchick: Hang on there one minute I would just like to point out to you that I was not poorly educated far from it I actually hold a Teachers Diploma in ICT and work full time for the Government |
This explains the poor state of education in this country, and the poor state of the Government...
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07 Sep 2006 Thu 12:34 am |
Quoting aenigma x: Quoting irishchick: Hang on there one minute I would just like to point out to you that I was not poorly educated far from it I actually hold a Teachers Diploma in ICT and work full time for the Government |
This explains the poor state of education in this country, and the poor state of the Government... |
lol how true aenigma ,
Some laughs are for fun,and other laughs are for sorrow
That is indead for sorrow ,if that is the teacher behavior,i don't want to think about the students ??
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