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is a relationship between turkish man and english woman possible??????
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29 Sep 2007 Sat 03:15 pm |
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Obviously you have all the proofs about everything. So, point at an objective source and we can read the truth.
As for Armenians. We should leave this discussion to historians. Even they are not agreeing on certain facts.
If we really committed such a genocide God damn my ancestors who did that offense. We must both apoligize and pay whatever compensation they may claim in that case.
You may think this has already been proven, I think it has not been. Obviously our version of the account is quite different. No one on our side claims we killed all those Armenians. There are references to an Armenian organization called Tashnak party. They join the Russian invasion of our Eastern provinces and begin tormenting locals gathering them in mosques and burning them. Then there is hatred between those people. In many cases there were Armenian villages next to a Turkish one. They fight with one another and kill one another in large numbers. Then Turkish troops take these separatist Armenians and drive them away from the region. A number of people died during this long and difficult voyage which took place on bare foot and in severe warfare conditions.
I don't believe in either account. I think both Armenians and Turks are exegerating. Research is still continueing in this matter.
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| 71. |
29 Sep 2007 Sat 03:15 pm |
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oh, sure i also know one thing thanks to ottoman empire, the america was discovered! 
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| 72. |
29 Sep 2007 Sat 03:18 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting vineyards: Quoting femme_fatal:
Just remember this. The Ottoman Empire had all the power in the world to turn the peoples of Greece, Bulgaria, Albania, Romania, Poland, Hungary, Yugoslavia into Muslims. If they were as bad as you say there would be no Greek Equimenical Church in Athens or a patriarch in Istanbul or so many Jewish synagogues with active communities in this country. The Serbs would have been ethnically cleansed and Hungarians would be speaking Turkish now. Some of them spent 600 years as the states of the Ottoman Empire. Today there is not a single mosque in Athens but nearly all of the Christian churches are still standing.
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a nice fairy tale! good job! you turks feed yourselves with such myths.
long ago the peoples who lived in the territory of turkey were christians, today turkeys majority is muslim, what happent to the vast non-muslim majority of inhabitants, how come they have decreased to the smallest minorities?
didnt most of them convert to islam under the wonderful swords of islam?
when you look at yourself on a mirror, whom you do see? do you see a turk? i dont think so! you are descendant of greeks and armenians, honey. turks were barbarians originated from the territories of central asia that have invaded todays turkey. |
Never cared about my ethnic roots. If Turks were barbarians who mixed up with non barbarian elements. Then who were Kazakhs. They are also Turkic and I understand they have never mixed with non barbarians. Could it have something to do with why you are so full of hatred? |
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29 Sep 2007 Sat 03:20 pm |
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Quoting vineyards: Then Turkish troops take these separatist Armenians and drive them away from the region. A number of people died during this long and difficult voyage which took place on bare foot and in severe warfare conditions.
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ouch, ouch, you call women and children separatists? 
vineyards, please, dont tell me the fairy tales, i hate them! please dont think im somewhat indifferent to the history.
if i say things, i know what im saying unlike parrots who repeat again and again the things taught at school by brainwashers.
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| 74. |
29 Sep 2007 Sat 03:22 pm |
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Then stop the show you are carrying on and let's continue by PM's from now on.
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29 Sep 2007 Sat 03:25 pm |
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Quoting vineyards: Never cared about my ethnic roots. If Turks were barbarians who mixed up with non barbarian elements. Then who were Kazakhs. They are also Turkic and I understand they have never mixed with non barbarians. Could it have something to do with why you are so full of hatred? |
never cared? shame on you! you should care if you are a proud turk!
yes, we (kazakhs) were or are barbarians, turkic barbarians, we carry more turkic genes then turks in turkey (although mixed up with mongols and a bit of persians).
i didnt know you were racist, you call non-turkish ethnicities ELEMENTS!?
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29 Sep 2007 Sat 03:26 pm |
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Quoting vineyards: Then stop the show you are carrying on and let's continue by PM's from now on. |
why? i think its more interesting here! let all others know a bit of our semi history! a?
are you ashamed of smth now? or you have things to hide from a public?
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| 77. |
29 Sep 2007 Sat 03:36 pm |
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That's the word to use in this connection. If I am wrong a native speaker could correct me.
Where did they teach you this story about barbarians. Everyone used to be a barbarian if you go back in time sufficiently. Would you want to live in the Mediaval Europe for example?
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29 Sep 2007 Sat 03:45 pm |
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Quoting vineyards: That's the word to use in this connection. If I am wrong a native speaker could correct me.
Where did they teach you this story about barbarians. Everyone used to be a barbarian if you go back in time sufficiently. Would you want to live in the Mediaval Europe for example? |
hahahaha
of course i know everyone was a barbarian, but some of them got civilized themselves MUCH MORE quicker.
i wouldnt want to live in ME europe nor i wouldnt want to live in the middle east today! 
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| 79. |
29 Sep 2007 Sat 04:21 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: make it clear, laila, learn to make yourself clear.
so women in islam follow the faith of their parents NOT husbands! if a muslim woman marries a non-muslim does she follow then her husbands religion? think before you write!
so islam is so much UNFAIR towards women!
it treats women as machines to produce more muslims. watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8fa9yKQeTY
i think your father is fullfilling his religious duties, a? |
this woman is crazy and what she says is just a crap...
what she says is i was the best...f*ck the rest...
no modesty at all...if she was brillant enough...
she would probably have seen that... what people do these days who thinks that they are moslim... has nothing to do with real islam and being moslim...
hey guys... isnt it all the same everywhere... in christianity... in jewish... they use all the things for their own benefit only... they just take what they want to... nothing else...
nowadays the only religion is money... and the real muslims and christians are in the minority...
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| 80. |
29 Sep 2007 Sat 06:17 pm |
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Yes, you mean, you lined up in front of an embassy like all the other Speedy Gonzaleses who want to beam themselves to a civilized part of the world; and you obtained a visa for yourself. It is not a problem for you to have an identity of your own. An instant identity will do the job. Have you become a civilized European dear just because you obtained the visa? If so, think whom you are associating with even your best friends routinely complain of lovers of the West like you who come to settle down in their countries.
If you ask me it is a virtue to love one's country and to work for it. You have nothing to be proud of when it comes to culture unless you take others' culture for granted.
I do have a couple of Kazakh friends here in Turkey, when I ask them they describe their country much more positively than a wanna-be-western girl like you. I respect them for whatever they are. Because whoever they may be they will return to their countries and work for their own people holding on to their own values and resources. They certainly do not need people like you. You are a shame for the Kazakhs too.
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