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is a relationship between turkish man and english woman possible??????
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29 Sep 2007 Sat 07:35 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting portokal: Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting portokal: How come that this forum was initially about man-woman relationship? :-S
Maybe you two love each other???! 
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are you claiming that this site is for lovers?  |
no way. it was not a claim.
just the two of you re arguing for such long time and so colourful that made me wonder. Perhaps i will get the answer to my inquiry now, won't i? |
yes, vineyards and i love each other  especially last 24h. |
Its one of those love/hate relationships .. giggle .. they hate to love each other .. or is it love to hate each other? now I'm confused ..  
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29 Sep 2007 Sat 07:35 pm |
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Deep in my heart - there's a fire - a burning heart Deep in my heart - there's desire - for a start I'm dying in emotion It's my world in fantasy.
Modern Talking
P.S. It is up to you to find a way to flame this one too.
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29 Sep 2007 Sat 07:36 pm |
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Quoting vineyards: Trudy for something to be unfair first in must be true. You can claim that still a certain percentage of the women in Turkey are oppressed by their husbands and I would agree with you in that. Don't you have some males who are rude to females? As far as I know Dutch is very rich in swear words. Even I have heard of tons of curses despising women. Now that swear words are a part of the slang and slang is a part of a culture; should we claim that women are bashed, ridiculed and sexually abused in Holland?
This equation will not hold water:
Islam = Turkey = No rights for women.
You probably came over here. How was the atmosphere was it so medieval. If so why are you so much interested in our culture. Do you want to prescribe some Christian values because you think Islam is adequate in that regard. Well for my own part being an atheist living in a muslim society all my life, I wouldn't claim that myself. I read all hold books including Zoraster, I can't claim anyhting in line with what you implied in your message. |
Your way of discussing reminds me of a stampede. You draw conclusions of things I never mentioned and/or connected.
And where did I say my country is the best, that I'm blind for it's mistakes? Or for the mistakes of individuals? The difference is, I agree so much with femme, that you only want to hear praises, not critics. I can stand both.
Being interested in a country does mean I can't critisize? I just like the country but it doesn't make me blind. Telling you about Christianity? Why should I do that as you told that you've read all the Holy Books? Then you must know, don't you? Tell me, and I'll give my comment.
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29 Sep 2007 Sat 07:45 pm |
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Quoting Trudy: I agree so much with femme, |
this makes you automatically a turkish hater then!
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29 Sep 2007 Sat 07:46 pm |
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Quoting vineyards: Deep in my heart - there's a fire - a burning heart Deep in my heart - there's desire - for a start I'm dying in emotion It's my world in fantasy.
Modern Talking
P.S. It is up to you to find a way to flame this one too. |
i just wonder how come im not that romantic?!
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29 Sep 2007 Sat 07:48 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting Trudy: I agree so much with femme, |
this makes you automatically a turkish hater then! |
So be it. I will not sleep less because of that label. 
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29 Sep 2007 Sat 08:01 pm |
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Quoting Trudy: Quoting vineyards: Your way of discussing reminds me of a stampede. You draw conclusions of things I never mentioned and/or connected.
And where did I say my country is the best, that I'm blind for it's mistakes? Or for the mistakes of individuals? The difference is, I agree so much with femme, that you only want to hear praises, not critics. I can stand both.
Being interested in a country does mean I can't critisize? I just like the country but it doesn't make me blind. Telling you about Christianity? Why should I do that as you told that you've read all the Holy Books? Then you must know, don't you? Tell me, and I'll give my comment. |
Then take your time and quote some of the positive words femme used for Turkey. Hating the East, Islam, Turks being barbarians originally, Turks being oppressors. Which one of those statements do you endorse.
It is you who is drawing some conclusions. I don't want to hear you praise Turkey. I don't need such a thing either. Just read the first paragraph again and see for yourself what I am objecting to.
Of course you are agreeing so much with femme.
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29 Sep 2007 Sat 08:04 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting vineyards:
Don't you have some males who are rude to females? As far as I know Dutch is very rich in swear words. Even I have heard of tons of curses despising women. Now that swear words are a part of the slang and slang is a part of a culture; should we claim that women are bashed, ridiculed and sexually abused in Holland?
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women in holland have equal rights to men. there are evil men all over the world as well as evil women.
dont teach trudy of the conditions of dutch women, she knows better. |
I am not teaching anyone anything. I just aked a question whose answer is already known to prove how wrong it is to judge cultures based on a few examples.
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29 Sep 2007 Sat 08:05 pm |
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Quoting vineyards: Quoting Trudy: Quoting vineyards: Your way of discussing reminds me of a stampede. You draw conclusions of things I never mentioned and/or connected.
And where did I say my country is the best, that I'm blind for it's mistakes? Or for the mistakes of individuals? The difference is, I agree so much with femme, that you only want to hear praises, not critics. I can stand both.
Being interested in a country does mean I can't critisize? I just like the country but it doesn't make me blind. Telling you about Christianity? Why should I do that as you told that you've read all the Holy Books? Then you must know, don't you? Tell me, and I'll give my comment. |
Then take your time and quote some of the positive words femme used for Turkey. Hating the East, Islam, Turks being barbarians originally, Turks being oppressors. Which one of those statements do you endorse.
It is you who is drawing some conclusions. I don't want to hear you praise Turkey. I don't need such a thing either. Just read the first paragraph again and see for yourself what I am objecting to.
Of course you are agreeing so much with femme.
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hating east is absolutely my own business! it has nothing to do with trudy
hating islam is my business too!
turks were barbarians, thats true, if you like it or not.
turks invaded many countries and forced MANY nations/ethnicities to convert into islam, thats true, too! |
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29 Sep 2007 Sat 08:06 pm |
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vineyards
you just cant disguise the history and the facts
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29 Sep 2007 Sat 08:08 pm |
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So, you've come here to bug people. Turks being barbarians shouldn't be a given a chance to promote their culture and language.
Moderators, why aren't you taking action. What else does she have to say?
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