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Harassment of the muslim woman in Turkey
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110.       azade
1606 posts
 06 Jun 2007 Wed 04:19 pm

What exactly is what turks apparently call a "türban", is it something like a niqab or how do you define it? Can you show us a picture please?

111.       boradiz
121 posts
 06 Jun 2007 Wed 04:29 pm

tekbir giyim
I hope above link can help about "türban"

112.       MrX67
2540 posts
 06 Jun 2007 Wed 04:29 pm

i think thats the one of most discuissing topic in Turkey since long years with a big obstinacy >>>>>>http://images.google.com.tr/imgres?imgurl=http://img.blogcu.com/uploads/LeyLi_36arminek.jpg&imgrefurl=http://leyli.blogcu.com/402546/&h=320&w=320&sz=25&hl=tr&start=2&tbnid=l-TquByZaAAKxM:&tbnh=118&tbnw=118&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dt%25C3%25BCrban%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dtr%26sa%3DG

113.       MrX67
2540 posts
 06 Jun 2007 Wed 04:37 pm

and thats really very sad we still in unproductive political discussions while the other countries busy with more important things

114.       KeithL
1455 posts
 06 Jun 2007 Wed 04:56 pm

what other things and what other countries?

115.       MrX67
2540 posts
 06 Jun 2007 Wed 04:59 pm

seems thats a big problem and worth to discussion till the end for you Keith?????theres a saying in Turkish,''Millet gitti aya,biz kaldık yaya''....

116.       knwrjtsngh
5 posts
 06 Jun 2007 Wed 05:08 pm

Thanks for the information. Though I do not belong to turkey & religion but I can understand your feelings. Islam is a good religion. There should not be restrictions on anybody in any religion. Every human being has his or her concscious as his religion. We all are human beings. We should listen to our conscious and keep one thing in mind that god is one and he is watching our deeds and given us mind and conscoius to choose the right path. Because both of above are not bound by religion either god or conscious.

117.       azade
1606 posts
 06 Jun 2007 Wed 05:11 pm

Those are just normal hijabs though. I don't remember where it was posted in this thread but at some point it was mentioned that those headcoverings are political or provocative, so I'd like to know how. How else can they wear it? The kind in the pictures above is what most muslim women wear, and it's from a religious POW.

118.       KeithL
1455 posts
 06 Jun 2007 Wed 05:15 pm

Quoting MrX67:

seems thats a big problem and worth to discussion till the end for you Keith?????theres a saying in Turkish,''Millet gitti aya,biz kaldık yaya''....



just trying to understand the comparisons you are talking about. These shangra la places you are telling us about...

119.       vineyards
1954 posts
 06 Jun 2007 Wed 05:30 pm

120.       MrX67
2540 posts
 06 Jun 2007 Wed 06:03 pm

Quoting vineyards:

Religion...
What did it ever help in this country or anywhere else?

Didn't Yavuz Sultan Selim kill thousands of Alevites because they believed in a different sect. Sectarian differences were the fundemental reasons of wars between Ottomans and Persians. Popes in Vatican sent troops consisting of anything from teenagers to pillagers who killed hundreds of thousands of innocent poeple again the reason was religion. The name of one of the popes I recall was innocent too. Who was innocent was a matter of discussion though.

Jesus did not have an army nor did he wish to have one but Europeans did not hesitate to shed blood in his name and to pillage the temples that had been built in his name.

Who were the riots that killed sultans and terrorized the empire? Were they not yelling, "We are losing our religion!" Didn't they kill in the name of God?

Only a short while ago the fathers and mothers of the Islamic fundamentalists of today were quite indifferent to the young people who were dieing in the streets at the hands of fascists as they were protesting thought crime, lack of freedom of speech, torture and oppression. None of the Islamists were moving a finger in those days. Now they are demanding freedom for headscarves. They may be right or wrong but they do not have my support. I will not move a finger either.

well,history and today full with religion,beleif and sect wars and fights,thats really interesting and i think that all about beleif freedom problem since deep of history till today,and in modern societies the basic human rights have to keepen with constitutional guaranties with a strong social agreement..

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