There's really something wrong going here.I started to doubt if I use bad english.

I understood your point aenigma very well, so do not torture yourself anymore about it, and give a little bit of that effort to understanding my point.

Your point is "I claim that Aslı lies"

No, I did not ever claim that she lied. I just said that she did not have the right to make a statement like "most of the girls in Turkey" and "even the educated and cultured ones in Istanbul". Everyone is free to tell their own stories, but no one has the right to make seem the well-educated, modern people of Turkey live with backward traditions and believes. If I were not a native, I would start to feel pity for every woman living in Turkey.
I'm not ok with this bull s...

And Aenigma, you think that there are contradictions in my posts, but in fact there's not, but ofcourse I am not going to give an hour for proving it.I'd say the same things.Yes,again, Istanbul is very mixed, and we can find every kind of people, but they are immigrants, and they bring their own traditions from other parts. When we say "Istanbul tradition" it's the native tradition of Istanbul which is formed in centuries.

Thanks for your clarification Meltem. I am happy that I did learn something today. I never before realised that there was such a snobbery in Turkey, particularly Istanbul.

It seems you have to belong to generations of Istanbul residents, be "cultured" and "educated" to be taken seriously and any "village culture" is severely frowned upon and should be stamped out.

Ouhhhhhhhhh! It reminds me of England during the 1920s!!!

No, not just Istanbul but as a native of Istanbul and as Aslı is also from Istanbul, I particularly mentioned Istanbul.
anywhere modern intellectual people exist and that is what makes our country the only secular modern country in the region.

Catwoman, how old are you? And what do you do in life other than being a so-called feminist, and a strong Turkey and Muslim society opposer in the mask of having good intentions for these societies which is not credible.

And I'm sorry like many in this forum that you're the admin of a Turkish forum. I doubt if you ever know any turkish word. And your attitudes are so far from being mature. You could just be the assistant of Sarkozy.

Mltm, I'm trying to learn from you how to be mature and smart and how to get to know Turkey better... I apologize if you feel hurt by the mistakes I make on my journey .

Sorry Mltm I will not argue my precious family's truth with someone who is insulting them being unintellectual and gipsy! You are around 24 and single I think. At that age things are blur and insulting is easy. You said you are native in İstanbul. From that, I assume that you will marry on a church or sinagog. Take my advice, do not take something old something blue, something new. Or do not brake a glass under your feet. Because all you defend before will goes right through the garbage. Traditions does not have to have meanings. We are doing them they are harmless and belongs to us. By the way about that ribbon, right after the tying, before my hubby comes to take me to ceremony, ı took that off and still keeping it in my drawer. Cose my dad once touch it while he was burst in tears and wishing me luck and happiness in my new life. I wish you have something like that to keep memories alive, and makes you smile everytime you touch it.