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Marriage between two faiths
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140.       aslı
342 posts
 07 Jul 2007 Sat 01:39 am

+2 go Armegon!

141.       yilgun-7
1326 posts
 07 Jul 2007 Sat 04:10 am

"The love between two people who are unequal and inharmonious in cultural point of view, turn to hatred after a certain time.
There is not mutual respect.
Generally people are fair-weather friends.
Even loves that are experienced in good days, are deceptive and false.
In this world you can't really know whether you have a friend or not".
These words are from a novel.....
What do you think about these words?

142.       catwoman
8933 posts
 07 Jul 2007 Sat 04:54 am

Quoting mltm:

It's quite strange because as far as I know in Istanbul traditions there's not such a thing to tie a red color around the belt of the bride.And this sentence 'there wont be any return from your husband' s house to here' is quite backward for real Istanbul descendants or just for any family who has left the village culture behind at least 2 generations before.
you show yourself a victim of these backward traditions, but I'm quite sure that your family would accept you anytime when you want to divorce and they just care about your happiness.


Mltm, maybe you still need to learn a little more about Turkey...?

143.       Gizli Yuz
130 posts
 07 Jul 2007 Sat 07:31 am

Quote:

Quote:

[QUOTE=asli]
And mltm yes, my father told me that while he is tying my virginity sign red ribbon on my belt because it was tradition. After that on my 11 years of marriage secretly asked me how am I doing, am I happy, I will always welcome in his house with my two sons if I am not happy. But I am lucky. Lots of girls told this by all means.



[QUOTE=asli]
mltm my family is living in istanbul over 300 years on both side. My father is an electrical engineer, my mother is a teacher like me and my sister is medical doctor. I think we can count on as educated family on Turkey's conditions.



this is by far the most absurd thing I ever heard. What you said is not even the culture of the people from Marmara.

There s something strange going on in this thread. I suggest all reasonable Turkish members not to post to this thread from now on. A lot of Turkish haters bashing local people with a sarcastic tone here.

144.       lunila
200 posts
 07 Jul 2007 Sat 09:53 am

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting mylo:

'calm down dears it's only a commercial'


a pacifist or pacifier?

lol lol lol lol lol

145.       aenigma x
0 posts
 07 Jul 2007 Sat 12:38 pm

Quoting Gizli Yuz:

There s something strange going on in this thread. I suggest all reasonable Turkish members not to post to this thread from now on. A lot of Turkish haters bashing local people with a sarcastic tone here.



Why do you think so? The posts you are objecting to were written by Turkish. "Reasonable"? By whose standards? Yours?

I dont think there is anyone here who is a Turkey hater!

146.       lady in red
6947 posts
 07 Jul 2007 Sat 01:03 pm

Quoting lunila:

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting mylo:

'calm down dears it's only a commercial'


a pacifist or pacifier?

lol lol lol lol lol



Lunila - is there anything you don't find hysterically funny??

147.       mltm
3690 posts
 07 Jul 2007 Sat 02:53 pm

Quoting aslı:

Have you read my messages? I said he did that because its a tradition, afterwards he always asked me if I am happy.


Yes, I've read that's why I'm replying.
I understand that it's a tradition, but this is just what I'm asking, which tradition is this? This is not definitely an Istanbul tradition. Can you clarify me because this is totally foreign to me as a native of Istanbul.

Quote:

In Turkey most girls like me told before marriage 'there wont be any return from your husband' s house to here'.



No, it's not most girls. You should have used "a lot of".

Quote:

Everything you do after that will be shame for your family even if they well educated and supportive.


Sorry, but if you still claim that your fmily is well educated, I'd say that "education" is not only university education. If you and they think that everything you do after divorce will bring shame to their family, their mentality is not modern and they are not intellectual.
Whatever the society thinks, the real modern people do not care. This is what modern turkish families including mine thinks. What I oppose is, you use wrong words which shows that even the most modern in Turkey have village mentalities.
Your words bring shame to real modern people of Turkey and the followers of Atatürk. And I oppose this! Ok?!

148.       mltm
3690 posts
 07 Jul 2007 Sat 03:00 pm

Quoting aenigma x:


I think Asli should know better than you on this point!! It was a personal story - are you doubting her word?



No, I do not doubt it, only I just expressed my curiosity as an Istanbul girl, and said that it's not an Istanbul tradition unless she comes from Sulukule

149.       aenigma x
0 posts
 07 Jul 2007 Sat 03:46 pm

Quoting mltm:

Your words bring shame to real modern people of Turkey and the followers of Atatürk. And I oppose this! Ok?!



Harsh words indeed!

Asli is telling the facts as she sees them. She is not agreeing that they are right, but only tells them. If you actually read her posts you would see that she agrees with you on most points, but....you so hate to see any "bad propaganda" to your fixed views that you go crazy!

When people tell things honestly, as they see it, it does more to build bridges between different cultures than hours of fundamentalist screaching - be it religious or political.

Istanbul, like most large cities, is made up of many different types of people, from many religions, cultures, even countries! How can you define a typical Istanbul resident?

Meltem, you live in such a strange world of denial and illusion - wanting to be the "modern Turkish girl" on one hand, yet behaving like a traditional Turkish girl when it suits you (usually when arguing with REAL "modern" independent, assertive women). You are, indeed, a paradox.

150.       aenigma x
0 posts
 07 Jul 2007 Sat 03:54 pm

Quoting mltm:

What I oppose is, you use wrong words which shows that even the most modern in Turkey have village mentalities.



Is Turkey just Istanbul? Ankara? Correct me if I am wrong, but the majority of the population live in small towns and villages.

Why do you discount them - even worse, try to pretend they don't exist!! This "modern Turkey" you talk of will never happen until you accept that these "village mentalities" exist! It seems YOU are the one determined to bring shame to Turkey...

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